Kilos | hi superfly can i mail you something to check before i send it to the list please | 07:30 |
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Kilos | morning all | 07:30 |
superfly | ok | 07:31 |
superfly | morning Kilos | 07:31 |
Kilos | ty, dont wanna mislead anyone | 07:31 |
superfly | Kilos: your mail looks OK, but I don't know debdelta | 07:48 |
superfly | Kilos: you might want to change your subject to "using up less data on mobile broadband | 07:48 |
Kilos | ty superfly will do that | 07:48 |
Kilos | wasnt sure if i had entered the right url | 07:49 |
superfly | I would stick to "http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" | 07:50 |
Kilos | thats a good idea, i changed when the site gave probs, the sun one never seems to have probs | 07:51 |
Kilos | dunno if that mail went twice. evo brought up a recovery window so i sent it again | 08:08 |
Kilos | grrrr | 08:09 |
Kilos | bbl | 08:11 |
Kilos | evening everyone | 17:42 |
sakhi_ | hey Kilos | 17:42 |
Kilos | hiya sakhi_ all good apart from your tail? | 17:42 |
sakhi_ | I felt something following me, otherwise I'm good thanks besides vmware issues this evening. | 17:44 |
Kilos | drussell, hi there. you most likely know about this | 17:44 |
Kilos | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair | 17:44 |
Kilos | lol | 17:44 |
drussell | Kilos: hiya | 17:45 |
drussell | Kilos: yeah i've seen it before | 17:45 |
Kilos | great boot repair tool | 17:45 |
Kilos | oh my | 17:46 |
Kilos | hi kbmonkey stranger | 17:46 |
kbmonkey | hello Kilos! | 17:46 |
kbmonkey | i got your emails thanks | 17:46 |
Kilos | you well lad? | 17:46 |
kbmonkey | its coming down here, definitely rain season | 17:47 |
Kilos | wow you so lucky. even our weeds are dying here from thirst | 17:47 |
kbmonkey | what you growing there oom? ;P | 17:48 |
kbmonkey | it makes sense for ubuntu not to have the same commands as fedora based centos | 17:49 |
Kilos | a few mielies and some strawberries and chillis and peppadew | 17:49 |
kbmonkey | there are equivalent commands | 17:49 |
Kilos | and lotsa weeds | 17:50 |
Kilos | blackjacks and khakibos | 17:50 |
Kilos | blackjack leaf tea is a good natural antibiotic | 17:50 |
kbmonkey | I did not know that | 17:52 |
Kilos | i used the debain ones , cant member which all but will get back to it | 17:52 |
Kilos | had a scare this avy. external light went red when i wasnt even near the pc and stopped showing here | 17:53 |
Kilos | tried rebooting and plugin it in after booting but no usb drive shouwed | 17:54 |
Kilos | showed either | 17:54 |
kbmonkey | red is bad? | 17:54 |
kbmonkey | and now? | 17:54 |
Kilos | means busy | 17:54 |
Kilos | was gonna try the data recovery stuff but thought lets first try sisters harddrive in case it was something on here not seeing usb | 17:55 |
kbmonkey | that is worrying | 17:56 |
Kilos | booted her drive coupla times and all of a sudden lights started flashing and next thing it was working again | 17:56 |
Kilos | back on my drive again it shows | 17:57 |
Kilos | sigh, dunno what caused that\ | 17:57 |
kbmonkey | gremlins | 17:57 |
Kilos | lol yeah bit frightening | 17:57 |
Kilos | everything is on there | 17:57 |
Kilos | 30g of stuff | 17:58 |
Tonberry | backup everything | 17:58 |
Kilos | all my rsyncs are there | 17:58 |
Kilos | and packages and visa stuff and pics | 17:59 |
Kilos | and music | 17:59 |
Kilos | i go eat | 17:59 |
kbmonkey | faulty cabling could cause that | 17:59 |
Kilos | hmmm | 18:15 |
Kilos | how does one do a worldwide census of who cant go unity and wants to stay maveric | 18:21 |
Kilos | like a petition to canonical kinda thing | 18:22 |
kbmonkey | they would rather let you use classic mode | 18:24 |
Kilos | kbmonkey, you wanna try something | 18:27 |
Kilos | you have a dvd writer hey? | 18:27 |
Kilos | hey psydroid you quiet | 18:28 |
psydroid | hi Kilos | 18:29 |
kbmonkey | I do have a writer, I guess it still works. been a year or two since I used the thing | 18:29 |
Kilos | Maaz, announce monthly meeting here on monday evening | 18:29 |
Maaz | Announcement from Kilos! monthly meeting here on monday evening | 18:29 |
psydroid | I was talking to someone | 18:29 |
Kilos | lol | 18:29 |
Kilos | kbmonkey, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remastersys.html | 18:29 |
Kilos | make a custom dvd of your system | 18:30 |
Kilos | tried it here but too much to fit on a cd | 18:30 |
Kilos | will try make a dvd when ian comes with his external dvd writer | 18:31 |
kbmonkey | I used remastersys before Kilos. neat method | 18:31 |
Kilos | good hey | 18:31 |
kbmonkey | too much for a dvd | 18:31 |
Kilos | wow | 18:33 |
kbmonkey | I need a koffie | 18:39 |
Kilos | lol | 18:39 |
Kilos | real one not cybercoffee | 18:39 |
Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 18:40 |
* Maaz flips the salt-timer | 18:40 | |
Kilos | Maaz, coffee time | 18:40 |
Maaz | It is always coffee time! | 18:40 |
Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 18:44 |
Kilos | Maaz, ty | 18:44 |
Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 18:44 |
sakhi | kbye for now | 18:45 |
Kilos | cheers sakhi | 18:46 |
Kilos | go well | 18:46 |
kbmonkey | cheers sakhi | 18:46 |
kbmonkey | oh i missed maaz, let me put the real world kettle on! | 18:46 |
Kilos | ha ha | 18:46 |
* kbmonkey might just make two cups for posterity | 18:46 | |
Kilos | i drink tea outs beer mugs | 18:47 |
Kilos | cups are for kids and girls | 18:47 |
kbmonkey | polisie koffie? | 18:47 |
Kilos | nee man | 18:47 |
Kilos | tee | 18:47 |
kbmonkey | ah, irish tea | 18:47 |
Kilos | plain tea | 18:47 |
Kilos | is tinylinux plain linux. not deb or rpm based? | 18:49 |
Kilos | so much to learn | 18:49 |
Kilos | or can one then give it a gnome desktop and xchat and pidgin etc | 18:50 |
kbmonkey | deb / rpm are package management. linux is the core. dont know what tinylinux use, probably something else | 18:50 |
kbmonkey | good question | 18:51 |
kbmonkey | they dont mention any packaging system | 18:53 |
kbmonkey | it comes with a bunch of apps | 18:53 |
kbmonkey | my guess that you have to compile any extra stuff manually | 18:53 |
* Kilos thinks about a linux system that isnt updating all the time but can still be made to look like ubuntu | 18:53 | |
Kilos | wait i have a link | 18:54 |
kbmonkey | on the tinylinux home page | 18:54 |
kbmonkey | holy moly, it needs a whopping 8MB RAM and 80 MB disk space. | 18:54 |
Kilos | haha | 18:54 |
kbmonkey | that is too cool | 18:54 |
kbmonkey | ah, it uses pkgtool | 18:56 |
Kilos | http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/applications.html | 18:56 |
Kilos | i think thats it. had to scroll back far | 18:56 |
kbmonkey | that is a slackware tool. so tinylinux is slack based... | 18:56 |
Kilos | me dunno whats slack | 19:02 |
Kilos | another thing like rpm and deb? | 19:02 |
kbmonkey | slackware is a linux distro | 19:02 |
kbmonkey | one of the oldest linuxes | 19:03 |
kbmonkey | there is also puppy linux | 19:03 |
Kilos | I still need to find out which file tells Ubuntu what the default | 19:03 |
Kilos | Desktop is to change it to Classic Gnome | 19:03 |
Kilos | this is from Nico on the lists | 19:04 |
kbmonkey | i can't help you, I have zero experience with unity | 19:04 |
Kilos | how does he tell unity to go classic and stay there | 19:04 |
kbmonkey | cant you just choose your desktop from the login screen? | 19:04 |
Kilos | no kbmonkey the unity peeps can help | 19:04 |
Kilos | if they not just lurking | 19:04 |
inetpro | good morning | 19:05 |
Kilos | pity neil isnt here | 19:05 |
kbmonkey | hi inetpro | 19:05 |
Kilos | lo inetpro | 19:05 |
Kilos | just in time | 19:05 |
inetpro | JIT? | 19:05 |
kbmonkey | JIT! | 19:05 |
Kilos | you have become a unity user | 19:05 |
Kilos | I still need to find out which file tells Ubuntu what the default | 19:06 |
Kilos | <Kilos> Desktop is to change it to Classic Gnome | 19:06 |
Kilos | Nico on the lists needs help | 19:06 |
inetpro | Kilos: wait for the new LTS release | 19:06 |
Kilos | not me man | 19:06 |
inetpro | they've made a lot of improvements | 19:06 |
kbmonkey | hey Kilos you can press up in xchat to reuse your words | 19:07 |
Kilos | i got him to get boot-repair to fix his booting but he still wants to know how to go classic | 19:07 |
kbmonkey | it helps us old folks with typing he he | 19:07 |
* inetpro has not tried the classic thing | 19:07 | |
Kilos | wow ty kbmonkey | 19:07 |
inetpro | I'm very happy with the direction that Unity is moving in | 19:08 |
kbmonkey | I'm curious inetpro, how does it handle keyboard shortcuts? | 19:08 |
Kilos | inetpro, he can get into classic mode but on reboot its back to unity | 19:08 |
kbmonkey | can you use it without a mouse, is what I want to know | 19:09 |
inetpro | kbmonkey: shortcuts like? | 19:09 |
Kilos | how does he make it permanent | 19:09 |
superfly | Kilos: I don't pay much attention to Nico, and neither do other people, because he asks the same stupid questions 10 times in a row and doesn't bother to actually open his browser and Google | 19:10 |
inetpro | kbmonkey: yes I must say I'm quite impressed with their new set of keyboard shortcut keys even if it requires you to relearn a few things | 19:10 |
Kilos | aw shame superfly maybe he battles | 19:10 |
Kilos | like me | 19:10 |
Kilos | looks like kubuntu is losing a fan | 19:12 |
superfly | Kilos: no, the only thing he seems to battle with is actually using his brain. You use yours | 19:12 |
kbmonkey | that's brutally honest. some people can't help being indoctrinated by M$ | 19:13 |
inetpro | Kilos: heh, I will most likely be back on Kubuntu as with the new release in April | 19:13 |
kbmonkey | it locked them into a certain way of thinking | 19:13 |
Kilos | whew thats a relief inetpro | 19:13 |
Kilos | releif | 19:14 |
Kilos | ? | 19:14 |
kbmonkey | s/releif/relief | 19:14 |
Kilos | both look wrong | 19:14 |
Kilos | maybe its my eye the squif | 19:14 |
kbmonkey | I'm really enjoying Openbox. responsive like greased lighting | 19:14 |
kbmonkey | the lazy eye? | 19:15 |
inetpro | Maaz: dict relief | 19:15 |
Maaz | inetpro: Relief \Re*lief"\ (r?-l?f"), n. [OE. relef, F. relief, properly, a lifting up, a standing out. See {Relieve}, and cf. {Basrelief}, {Rilievi}.] 1. The act of relieving, or the state of being relieved; the removal, or partial removal, of any evil, or of anything oppressive or burdensome, by which some ease is obtained; succor; alleviation; comfort; ease; redress. [1913 Webster] He sees the dire contagion spread so fast, That, where | 19:15 |
Kilos | lol kbmonkey | 19:16 |
Kilos | one is blind and the other one also cant see | 19:16 |
Kilos | and i have forgotten lots of my spelling in both tales | 19:17 |
kbmonkey | for a moment I thought Maaz will tell us the intricacies of using the Big White Telephone | 19:17 |
Kilos | haha | 19:17 |
kbmonkey | your spelling is 110% better than these folks who use sms shorthand. drives me nuts | 19:17 |
Kilos | inetpro, is it very dry there too. seems from here that town and you guys get rain when it blows past here before it starts dripping | 19:18 |
kbmonkey | could we blame telecoms companies for the demise of inarticulate youth? Yes we can! | 19:18 |
Kilos | actually superfly i see what you mean. i told him about boot-repair but he couldnt find it | 19:19 |
Kilos | maybe google isnt his friend either | 19:19 |
Kilos | hehe | 19:19 |
kbmonkey | it's dripping here again. | 19:20 |
Kilos | send some here | 19:20 |
inetpro | Kilos: yep, very, very dry here. We really need that rain. | 19:20 |
* kbmonkey does a rain shift dance | 19:20 | |
Kilos | even ours mielies leaves are rolled up\ | 19:20 |
Kilos | and thats with watering 2x a week | 19:21 |
Kilos | ha ha | 19:21 |
Kilos | memories | 19:21 |
Kilos | once on the farm in utrecht i wanted to shoot a rain bird and all my boys grabbed me and said no we will get washed away | 19:22 |
Kilos | superstition | 19:22 |
Kilos | hehe | 19:22 |
Kilos | musta been making a noise and my head was sore | 19:22 |
inetpro | lol | 19:24 |
inetpro | Kilos: at least you have lots of your memories still in tact | 19:25 |
kbmonkey | I was a sign | 19:25 |
Kilos | lol yeah but all the wrong ones. and they pop up at weird times | 19:25 |
kbmonkey | Best not to tempt fate, eh. Always backup! | 19:25 |
Kilos | but normally worth a good laugh | 19:25 |
Kilos | how you backup your nut | 19:26 |
inetpro | one of many things I miss on Ubuntu is klipper | 19:27 |
Kilos | klipper? | 19:27 |
cocooncrash | inetpro: Have you turned your back on KDE?!! | 19:27 |
inetpro | cocooncrash: not at all | 19:28 |
cocooncrash | inetpro: Ah, okay | 19:28 |
cocooncrash | (I wouldn't blame you though.) | 19:28 |
inetpro | cocooncrash: I just installed it on my laptop some time ago and thought I'd push through and see how good/bad it is | 19:28 |
Kilos | lol | 19:28 |
Kilos | dont let the fly hear that | 19:28 |
Kilos | hi JaynMerry | 19:29 |
Kilos | bi | 19:29 |
kbmonkey | ha ha | 19:30 |
inetpro | cocooncrash: why would you not blame me? | 19:31 |
cocooncrash | inetpro: It's gone a bit downhill TBH | 19:32 |
inetpro | true | 19:32 |
cocooncrash | I'm using Thunderbird because Kmail is unusable | 19:32 |
cocooncrash | And Firefox because Rekonq and Konqueror are a bit meh | 19:32 |
inetpro | it's quit sad actually | 19:32 |
cocooncrash | Yeah | 19:32 |
inetpro | even akregator can be painful these days | 19:33 |
Kilos | aw thats sad when a distro go backwards | 19:34 |
inetpro | cocooncrash: it's mainly due to using Firefox and Thunderbird that my switching is not so painful | 19:34 |
Kilos | can one of you check this link please | 19:35 |
Kilos | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/56613 | 19:35 |
Kilos | my epiphany cant get in there at all | 19:35 |
inetpro | has any of you gnome guys used glipper? | 19:35 |
inetpro | they say glipper is a clipboard utility for the GNOME panel | 19:36 |
kbmonkey | that link does not work Kilos | 19:37 |
Kilos | what does one do with a clipboard | 19:37 |
Kilos | ty kbmonkey | 19:37 |
inetpro | Kilos: same here | 19:38 |
inetpro | Kilos: Glipper is supposed to maintain a history of text copied to the clipboard from which you can choose | 19:39 |
inetpro | very very useful | 19:39 |
Kilos | do you have to manually put text there | 19:40 |
inetpro | I still use Klipper a lot on my KDE desktop at the office | 19:40 |
Kilos | then go look later what you put there | 19:41 |
inetpro | Kilos: no, anything you copy with CTRL+C | 19:41 |
Kilos | thats all the time with xchat here | 19:41 |
Kilos | cant right click copy | 19:41 |
Kilos | ctrl+c and ctrl+v | 19:42 |
Kilos | battled in the beginning | 19:42 |
Kilos | some guy thatwas in kenya or someplace helped me here | 19:42 |
Kilos | oh inetpro so it will remember all links i copy like that in here | 19:43 |
* inetpro goes to install glipper | 19:44 | |
kbmonkey | I use Parcellite inetpro | 19:44 |
Kilos | tiny package 68k | 19:44 |
inetpro | at least glipper doesn't seem much bigger than that | 19:45 |
inetpro | Need to get 110 kB of archives. After unpacking 991 kB will be used. | 19:45 |
Kilos | its glipper i am talking about 68.9kB | 19:46 |
inetpro | that is 110kB for glipper libkeybinder0{a} python-keybinder{a} python-prctl{a} | 19:46 |
Kilos | i must have that other stuff already | 19:47 |
Kilos | only glipper installed now to find where it went | 19:47 |
kbmonkey | glipper will download 90MB on my side. lol, nevermind :) | 19:48 |
Kilos | wow why so much | 19:48 |
Kilos | mine is in already | 19:48 |
kbmonkey | I don't have gnome | 19:48 |
kbmonkey | so it will download all gnome dependencies too | 19:48 |
Kilos | what you using kbmonkey | 19:48 |
kbmonkey | on this pc I use openbox | 19:48 |
Kilos | whew | 19:48 |
kbmonkey | its like gnome or kde, but lighter on resources | 19:49 |
Kilos | top and bottom panels? | 19:49 |
kbmonkey | yup | 19:49 |
Kilos | and updates every 2 weeks? | 19:49 |
kbmonkey | nope | 19:49 |
kbmonkey | i run updates manually | 19:50 |
Kilos | once of? | 19:50 |
Kilos | oh | 19:50 |
* inetpro not sure that is really necessary to reboot but I just did, and now I see a nice little additional G icon in the panel | 19:50 | |
* Kilos will cry if i gotta leave maverick | 19:51 | |
Kilos | oh inetpro i see niks | 19:51 |
Kilos | will try a reboot | 19:51 |
Kilos | bbl | 19:52 |
inetpro | one of my reasons for using ubuntu gnome is so I can at least try to support new users | 19:52 |
* inetpro can not deny that Ubuntu Unity appeals to new users more than KDE | 19:52 | |
* inetpro has one more item keeping him on KDE scratched off the list | 19:54 | |
Kilos | grrr | 19:55 |
inetpro | hmm... Kilos, waar was jy nou? | 19:55 |
Kilos | dont see no G nowhere | 19:55 |
inetpro | eish | 19:55 |
Kilos | did a reboot sir | 19:55 |
Kilos | hehe murphy | 19:56 |
inetpro | Kilos: time to upgrade :-) | 19:56 |
Kilos | it is in synaptic | 19:56 |
kbmonkey | I dove into openbox for the reason its hands-on and wanted to learn more about internals | 19:57 |
kbmonkey | it sure did work! | 19:57 |
kbmonkey | if you open term it should show if you type glip[tab] | 19:58 |
kbmonkey | or try whereis glipper | 19:58 |
* inetpro wonders why glipper is not part of the standard gnome/unity desktop | 19:58 | |
kbmonkey | chances are you just have to run it kilos | 19:58 |
inetpro | there must be a reason | 19:58 |
kbmonkey | add it to your startup list | 19:59 |
Kilos | glipper: /usr/lib/glipper /usr/share/glipper | 19:59 |
kbmonkey | I know inetpro right? now that I use a clip manager I cant do without | 19:59 |
Kilos | 119 packages not upgraded | 19:59 |
kbmonkey | no G in your task? | 19:59 |
kbmonkey | run 'glipper &' | 19:59 |
kbmonkey | then check | 19:59 |
inetpro | Kilos: right click ur panel → Add to Panel then drag Clipboard Manager to ur panel | 20:00 |
inetpro | s/ur/your/ | 20:00 |
Kilos | miles@P4:~$ glipper & | 20:00 |
Kilos | [1] 2042 | 20:00 |
Kilos | miles@P4:~$ No command 'glipper' found, did you mean: | 20:00 |
Kilos | Command 'klipper' from package 'klipper' (main) | 20:00 |
Kilos | lol | 20:00 |
kbmonkey | inetpro got it ^ | 20:01 |
* inetpro found it at "Things to do after installing Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat" http://forums.bizhat.com/linux-freebsd-opensource/46665-things-do-after-installing-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat.html | 20:01 | |
Kilos | yay clever fella | 20:01 |
Kilos | i actually see a clipboard with a G in it | 20:02 |
Kilos | yay | 20:02 |
Kilos | my top panel is getting kinda full | 20:03 |
kbmonkey | Maaz coffee on | 20:03 |
* Maaz puts the kettle on | 20:03 | |
Kilos | oh inetpro a few months back i was having probs in pidgin xmpp for some reason | 20:03 |
inetpro | Maaz: coffee please | 20:04 |
Maaz | inetpro: Done | 20:04 |
Kilos | found another client that worked at the time | 20:04 |
Kilos | gamin | 20:04 |
Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 20:04 |
Maaz | Kilos: Alrighty | 20:04 |
inetpro | Kilos: hmm... | 20:05 |
Kilos | lol | 20:05 |
inetpro | Gamin is a file and directory monitoring system which allows applications to detect when a file or a directory has been added, removed or modified by somebody else. | 20:06 |
Kilos | goosie thinking | 20:06 |
Kilos | eish | 20:06 |
Kilos | gajim | 20:06 |
Kilos | sorry | 20:06 |
inetpro | ahh | 20:06 |
Kilos | enviromentally friendly | 20:06 |
inetpro | Jabber client written in PyGTK | 20:07 |
Kilos | wears green jacket | 20:07 |
Kilos | thats it yes | 20:07 |
Maaz | Coffee's ready for kbmonkey, inetpro and Kilos! | 20:07 |
kbmonkey | Maaz thanks! | 20:08 |
Maaz | kbmonkey: Sure | 20:08 |
inetpro | Maaz: dankie ou maat | 20:08 |
Kilos | Maaz, danke | 20:08 |
Maaz | inetpro: What? | 20:08 |
Maaz | Bitteschön | 20:08 |
kbmonkey | you beat me to making my own | 20:08 |
Kilos | hehe | 20:08 |
Kilos | oh kbmonkey we might have a new lpi guy again | 20:10 |
Kilos | seemed interested | 20:10 |
Kilos | <darksurferza> | 20:12 |
Kilos | looks like a nighttime beach bum | 20:13 |
kbmonkey | nice choice of words | 20:14 |
kbmonkey | that's good! | 20:14 |
Kilos | hope he not a ja boeteie | 20:14 |
kbmonkey | wow this band is making my ears bleed | 20:15 |
kbmonkey | Mortal Treason | 20:15 |
kbmonkey | beautiful | 20:15 |
Kilos | seemed quite clever and was interested in the python after | 20:15 |
Kilos | how big the songs?? | 20:15 |
Kilos | kbmonkey, ? | 20:16 |
kbmonkey | Im not sure | 20:19 |
Kilos | oh you dont have it there on the pc | 20:19 |
kbmonkey | I do | 20:20 |
kbmonkey | the player doesn't show the size | 20:20 |
kbmonkey | long songs, 8 mins, so about 7MB+ | 20:20 |
Kilos | lol if you get mobilemediaconverter you can convert it to amr and itwill be under 1m | 20:20 |
kbmonkey | the pc plays songs randomly itself | 20:21 |
Kilos | wow that is long | 20:21 |
Kilos | good words? | 20:21 |
kbmonkey | yes, metal and it's melodic solos | 20:21 |
kbmonkey | yes but amr sounds like you're listening through a tin can attached to a string with the song playing over a cracked landline from the other end while a bunch of cats try attack he string | 20:22 |
Kilos | one can normally tell a lot about a person by the music they listen to | 20:22 |
Kilos | no man | 20:22 |
Kilos | amr is what fones use | 20:22 |
kbmonkey | indeed | 20:23 |
Kilos | tara converts her songs to it to mail to me | 20:23 |
kbmonkey | I'm a audiophile in that regard | 20:23 |
Kilos | but 8 mins is a big song | 20:23 |
Kilos | your ears are still young | 20:24 |
kbmonkey | it is. strange how bands don't really make long melodic music these days | 20:24 |
kbmonkey | Pink Floyd is a good example | 20:25 |
Kilos | wow are they still going | 20:26 |
Kilos | sure i listened to them 40 years ago | 20:27 |
kbmonkey | no I think roger Waters is an old ballie now | 20:27 |
kbmonkey | I meant back then | 20:28 |
kbmonkey | hang on, need more coffee... | 20:28 |
Kilos | lol | 20:28 |
Kilos | its bed time or you wont be here monday night | 20:28 |
Kilos | hi drubin you attending the meeting monday night? havent seen you for a long time | 20:30 |
kbmonkey | its only Sat Kilos :p | 20:30 |
Kilos | ya kbmonkey but you youngsters run outa steam quick and take days to recover | 20:31 |
Kilos | im nasty hey | 20:31 |
Kilos | sorry | 20:31 |
kbmonkey | ha ha ha! who you calling youngster | 20:32 |
kbmonkey | im at least half your age! | 20:33 |
kbmonkey | ;P | 20:33 |
Kilos | oh you shave already? | 20:33 |
Kilos | hee hee | 20:33 |
Kilos | you 30 lready? | 20:33 |
Kilos | already too | 20:34 |
inetpro | <kbmonkey> yes but amr sounds like you're listening through a tin can attached to a string with the song playing over a cracked landline from the other end while a bunch of cats try attack he string | 20:34 |
* inetpro lol | 20:34 | |
Kilos | lol | 20:34 |
kbmonkey | I may be old enough to know better, but still young enough not to care! | 20:34 |
Kilos | ha ha ha | 20:34 |
kbmonkey | oh wait... i have to go take my medicine... | 20:34 |
Kilos | peer at work again | 20:34 |
Kilos | we gotta find and kill him | 20:34 |
kbmonkey | now where did I put my walking stick... | 20:34 |
Kilos | lol how old are you? | 20:35 |
Kilos | i still dont use a walking stick | 20:35 |
Kilos | but should use a neck brace methinks | 20:35 |
kbmonkey | im twen... no wait, thirty? yes i think that is the one | 20:39 |
inetpro | Kilos: Unity-2D 5.4 landed in Ubuntu 12.04 with redesigned buttons and new features http://iloveubuntu.net/unity-2d-54-landed-ubuntu-1204-redesigned-buttons-and-new-features | 20:39 |
Kilos | lol | 20:39 |
Kilos | sounds good inetpro but all that downloading? whew | 20:40 |
Kilos | you know i loved moving up with the new releases | 20:40 |
Kilos | i think i have a wireless card in here. funny plug on the back | 20:41 |
Kilos | if it is and i can make an antennae maybe i can find a wireless connection somewhere in the area | 20:42 |
Kilos | whats the command for what hardware is inthe pc? | 20:42 |
Kilos | ls something | 20:42 |
Tonberry | lspci | 20:43 |
Tonberry | and lsusb | 20:43 |
Kilos | ty Tonberry | 20:43 |
Tonberry | should cover most of it | 20:43 |
Kilos | oh its an ethernet thing | 20:44 |
Kilos | 00:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) | 20:44 |
Kilos | whatever that might be | 20:44 |
Kilos | oh no thats whats in the software | 20:45 |
Kilos | \o/ | 20:46 |
Kilos | how far can ethernet see | 20:49 |
kbmonkey | thats the network card | 20:50 |
inetpro | ethernet is for cable networks | 20:50 |
inetpro | or rather wired | 20:51 |
Kilos | what does it do and must it be cable connected or what | 20:51 |
kbmonkey | ah Mr Leonard Cohen, we meet again | 20:51 |
Tonberry | as unintuitive as that sounds... | 20:51 |
kbmonkey | it does the same as your wireless, but with wires :D | 20:51 |
inetpro | :-) | 20:51 |
Kilos | aw | 20:51 |
inetpro | Kilos: obviously that also means that you could have another wireless device which you could connect to through that port by means of using a wired cable | 20:54 |
Kilos | ? | 20:55 |
Kilos | wireless port through a wired cable? | 20:55 |
Kilos | oh | 20:55 |
inetpro | Kilos: get a wireless 3g router and plug into the pc via this port | 20:55 |
Kilos | you mean like a modem | 20:56 |
Kilos | ah router goodie | 20:56 |
inetpro | Kilos: or a LAN | 20:56 |
Kilos | but thats still feeding vodacom? | 20:56 |
inetpro | Kilos: sadly you are unlikely to get away from that any time soon | 20:57 |
Kilos | i ot that old nokia 9300 and it shows nothing in a wireless search or must but give it what to look for | 20:57 |
inetpro | Kilos: but perhaps it is time to go to 8ta rather than VC | 20:57 |
Kilos | i have both sims inetpro just 8ta uses the mtn tower here thats not 3g | 20:58 |
Kilos | works for mail and irc but slow to download | 20:58 |
inetpro | hmm... | 20:58 |
Kilos | but i used gprs when i started on mtn with the old moto razr fone and went through 9.04 and 910 with it | 20:59 |
Kilos | lol | 20:59 |
Kilos | memories | 20:59 |
kbmonkey | hey sure beats dialup | 21:00 |
Kilos | think it took 9 hours to update 9.10 | 21:00 |
Kilos | upgrade | 21:00 |
Kilos | haha i have had some fun here | 21:00 |
kbmonkey | wow | 21:00 |
kbmonkey | somehow I think we were more productive in days without internet | 21:01 |
Kilos | lol | 21:01 |
inetpro | Kilos: I guess I no understand now why the 10g option is not on your list of priorities | 21:03 |
Kilos | cash inetpro | 21:04 |
kbmonkey | ha ha, my fortune says: when the shit hits the fan, keep your mouth shut. | 21:05 |
Kilos | would have many distros here if not for that | 21:05 |
Kilos | ha ha ha | 21:05 |
Kilos | and pinch your nose | 21:05 |
kbmonkey | we seriously need a large, intra network between regions | 21:05 |
kbmonkey | strictly open source | 21:06 |
kbmonkey | we need our own internet. telecoms be damned | 21:06 |
Kilos | its expensive to put up towers and all the equipment | 21:07 |
Kilos | ask the wireless guys | 21:07 |
Kilos | pta has a large wireless community | 21:07 |
Kilos | think it reaches to rustenburg or near | 21:07 |
Kilos | ptawug | 21:07 |
inetpro | Kilos: it's just R199 per month | 21:08 |
Kilos | but no internet connection | 21:08 |
Kilos | just? | 21:08 |
Kilos | hehe | 21:08 |
inetpro | ok ok | 21:08 |
Kilos | you forget im a squatter | 21:08 |
inetpro | sad that they can not give you half of the 10g for just R100 | 21:09 |
Kilos | maybe i need to toi toi some | 21:09 |
inetpro | or 1/4 for R50 | 21:09 |
Kilos | yeah they all go for the bigger guys | 21:09 |
inetpro | even 2.5GB would be more than enough for the average person | 21:10 |
Kilos | all the providers give better prices on the big bundles while 95% of the country cant only afford little ones | 21:10 |
Kilos | 2.5g is plenty | 21:10 |
Kilos | inetpro, you use mobile connection | 21:18 |
Kilos | have you looked at debdelta | 21:19 |
Kilos | saves half of updates and upgrades downloads | 21:19 |
Kilos | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debdelta | 21:21 |
Kilos | night guys, thanks for a lekker evening | 21:22 |
Kilos | sleep tight | 21:22 |
kbmonkey | ah he's gone:( | 21:29 |
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