[02:50] <leo-unglaub> witch is the best drop down terminal for xubuntu with supports multipe desktops?
[02:55] <bazhang> such as guake? tilda and the like?
[02:58] <leo-unglaub> bazhang: yes, like them...but tilda has limited support for multiple screens
[02:58] <leo-unglaub> i have 3 screens here...and tilda is every time on the left one
[02:58] <leo-unglaub> but i need i on the middle one
[03:00] <bazhang> http://www.ubunturoot.com/2010/08/drop-down-terminal-for-ubuntu.html   I see only the three here
[03:01] <leo-unglaub> bazhang: okay, so it's not just me :)
[03:01] <bazhang> Also one good feature of Tilda is that you can disable showing on all workplaces.
[03:02] <bazhang> ^ that's from the link
[03:03] <leo-unglaub> hmmm, okay
[03:03] <leo-unglaub> i will try both
[03:03] <leo-unglaub> maybe there was an update
[03:04] <leo-unglaub> bazhang: thanks !
[03:05] <bazhang> hope that helps, never used them, just the kde one yakuake (which you wouldn't want as xubuntu is gtk)
[03:06] <leo-unglaub> hehe, yakuake is the only one i know witch supports multipe monitors *g*
[03:06] <leo-unglaub> bud sadly kde only
[03:09] <leo-unglaub> well, i can live with guake....i am still soo happy about xfce....after one year of unity...believe me....i am the happiest person in the world to habe a desktop without all those fancy things :)
[03:28] <bazhang> wonder if HUD will have a dropdown
[03:31] <leo-unglaub> hud?
[03:49] <jandrusk> HUD is an updated feature in that Unity garbage.
[04:03] <bazhang> !hud
[05:17] <Shirakawasuna> anyone else been getting this recently? all of my notifications get put into some weird mail icon
[05:22] <kiopnuio> Where should bugs be filed against xubuntu?
[05:23] <kiopnuio> I don't understand why oneconf is installed and I don't see how to remove it without hacking the dependency chain
[05:27] <Bham-Bob> After running the updater my Xubuntu will not boot, all I get is a >grub prompt
[05:42] <holstein> Bham-Bob: i would try an older kernel if you see one
[05:46] <Bham-Bob> I don't get the boot menu it just drops straight to the grub> prompt
[05:46] <Bham-Bob> I have just booted from a live CD and am trying to figure out how to restore grub
[05:53] <Bham-Bob> anyone know how to restore or install grub from a live CD?
[05:53] <kiopnuio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Grub
[05:53] <metasansana> kiopnuio: I believe the bugs are filed on launchpad
[05:54] <cfhowlett> Bham-Bob   ask over @ #ubuntu
[05:55] <Bham-Bob> okay
[10:00] <EtherDen> hi everyone! %)
[10:01] <Ghrim> Hey, i'm using the power management tool, and when the screen locks it uses something really really ugly. Is there anything I can do to change this?
[10:02] <EtherDen> i don't know, sorry %)
[10:04] <EtherDen> may be video driver not work correct, in my opinion
[10:04] <Ghrim> No, it's just the default thing, I think it's called xscreensaver?
[10:08] <EtherDen> press ctr+alt+backspace and restart lightdm, for example
[10:09] <Myrtti> well that doesn't replace the screensaver
[10:10] <mongy> if you mean the picture of the burning monitor, yeah it's not very flash
[10:10] <mongy> I set mine to turn the monitor off when it locks
[10:13] <mongy> the image is in /usr/share/pixmaps
[10:13] <EtherDen> so... i completed setup xubuntu on my mac, i need restart, see you later %)
[10:19] <Ghrim> I've found something called 'slock' which just goes black, theres no prompt or anything, you just type in your password and hit enter. Is there any way of using this with the power management tool?
[12:19] <baizon> hmm
[12:19] <baizon> is this a bug?
[12:19] <baizon> when i try to install alacarte, i have to install 137 other dependencies
[12:20] <baizon> the whole mono lib, compiz and gnome stuff
[12:24] <mongy> --no-install-recommends
[12:27] <baizon> mongy: thank you :)
[12:28] <mongy> I don't think it works 100% that way though.
[12:28] <mongy> Like, I wasn't able to edit the properties of an item
[12:28] <knome> it's fixed in precise
[12:28] <knome> baizon, yes, it's a bug :P
[12:29] <baizon> knome: indeed
[12:29] <baizon> so i have to wait 2 months :)
[12:30] <knome> well, you can use --no-install-recommends for now and most things in alacarte should work
[12:30] <baizon> no
[12:30] <baizon> the most important thing doesnt work
[12:30] <knome> aha
[12:31] <baizon> in 12.04
[12:31] <baizon> yes
[12:31] <baizon> but not in 11.10
[12:32] <baizon> i cant edit the "web browser" entry
[12:32] <baizon> or add some entrys
[12:32] <baizon> but no problem
[12:33] <baizon> i will wait until 12.04 :)
[12:33] <knome> the web browser is an exo launcher
[12:33] <knome> afaik
[12:33] <baizon> i know
[12:33] <baizon> but last time i tryd to edit this entrys my whole menu was broken
[12:34] <knome> ;]
[12:34] <knome> that's probably because OnlyShowIn=XFCE doesn't work in alacarte on 11.10 either
[12:35] <baizon> yep :)
[13:24] <musashi> hi all
[13:25] <baizon> hi hi
[13:26] <musashi> just to say hi Im installing xubuntu and I connected to irc from install
[13:26] <baizon> well done :)
[13:27] <musashi> hehe
[13:27] <musashi> It s great how installation have evolved
[13:27] <musashi> since that text black terminal
[13:28] <baizon> yeah, but its a ubuntu thing :>
[13:28] <baizon> if you try to install arch linux it will be very difficult comparing to ubuntu :)
[13:28] <musashi> i know
[13:28] <musashi> I ve  installed mint and xubuntu
[13:28] <baizon> thats why i like xubuntu, its so easy :)
[13:28] <musashi> hahaha I did last month
[13:29] <baizon> mint isnt good with xfce
[13:29] <baizon> bleeding edge :(
[13:29] <musashi> well I tried standard with gnome
[13:29] <musashi> no?
[13:29] <baizon> after installation and then updates my system was broken
[13:29] <baizon> musashi: mint + xfce is bleeding edge. Minut + Gnome isnt thats right
[13:30] <musashi> I m installing in a laptop because of the power manager
[13:31] <musashi> of xfce
[13:32] <musashi> cause I m using crunchbang with openbox and a xfcepowermanager 0.8.5 and it gives me problems and I cant update it because  of dependencies. well it s  a long history
[13:32] <musashi> I dont want to be boring :P
[13:33] <baizon> :)
[13:35] <musashi> well can  I see a shorcut key reference? I like using kb more than touchpad or mouse
[13:35] <musashi> well* where
[13:36] <musashi> Im rebooting thanks baizon bye
[13:49] <dnlserrano> hi guys
[13:52] <dnlserrano> how can i add a program, eclipse in this case, to my apps menu (under "office", in particular)?
[14:19] <mongy> wish people would lurk
[15:33] <ThePendulum> What file system should I use for a storage hard drive for linux?
[15:34] <bazhang> shared with windows or not
[15:34] <ThePendulum> well, perhaps in the future
[15:35] <bazhang> ext4 if not
[15:35] <ThePendulum> and what if yes?
[15:35] <bazhang> ntfs
[15:35] <ThePendulum> hmpf
[15:35] <ThePendulum> I just formatted it to ntsf, and now the 'daemon is prohibited'
[15:35] <ThePendulum> when I try to mount the drive
[15:35] <ThePendulum> oh
[15:35] <ThePendulum> it works now, nvm
[15:35] <bazhang> with ntfs-3g?
[15:36] <bazhang> ok
[15:36] <ThePendulum> thanks
[15:36] <bazhang> heh I did nothing
[15:36] <ThePendulum> Well, you confirmed I should format it to ntsf if I want to use it for both windows and linux
[15:37] <bazhang> glad to take credit though!
[15:38] <ThePendulum> Haha
[15:39] <bazhang> :)
[16:32] <felicia> anyone for assistance?
[16:34] <baizon> !ask | felicia
[16:37] <felicia> just installed latest xubuntu on an old machine with an ATI Sapphire X550 video card. no restricted drivers available. installed latest updates. monitor resolution low(ish). ideas?
[16:42] <baizon> felicia: try the radeon drivers.
[16:42] <baizon> http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/maverick/xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[16:42] <baizon> ou sorry it wont wor
[16:42] <baizon> word
[16:42] <baizon> work
[16:44] <felicia> not working
[16:45] <baizon> felicia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[16:46] <baizon> you got the package xserver-xorg-video-ati installd?
[16:49] <felicia> not sure. how do i check?
[16:57] <felicia> baizon, no. it's not
[17:00] <baizon> so install it plz :)
[17:07] <felicia> baizon, not able to install. it says: dependencies unsatisfied
[17:08] <felicia> ok now. added the source. installed via terminal
[17:08] <felicia> what now?
[17:09] <baizon> reboot :)
[17:09] <felicia> ok
[17:09] <baizon> and check if it works
[17:12] <felicia> baizon, nope. :)
[17:12] <felicia> resolution still jerky
[17:12] <felicia> no 3d support
[17:12] <baizon> felicia: what cable do you use?
[17:12] <felicia> vga
[17:13] <baizon> what resolution do you need?
[17:13] <felicia> 1920 prefferably, it's a 21" monitor
[17:14] <felicia> the point is, the motherboard has an internal 64MB video card, and the ATI was added afterward. should i try to remove it and stay on the onboard card???
[17:16] <baizon> you can test it
[17:16] <felicia> ok
[17:23] <felicia> baizon, still no change.
[17:24] <felicia> question: in bios i have the settings: primary graphics card - PCI, PCIE VGA, integrated vga
[17:25] <felicia> which one should i choose?
[17:26] <jesusrmx> hello, I cannot apply updates, the update manager insist there is an update available, trying to install fails because is from a "no authenticated source" (my translation from spanish), if I uncheck the package (libnspr4-0d) it anyways fails with the same result, how do I either force the install or force forget such package?. thanks
[17:26] <metasansana> felicia: PCIE would be the add in card
[17:27] <felicia> metasansana, which doesn't work either
[17:27] <jmcantrell> anyone having trouble with mouse clicks with the latest updates? it's driving me bonkers
[17:27] <felicia> now i am on the integrated card
[17:28] <felicia> should i reinstall with the ATI removed completely?
[17:32] <jesusrmx> jmcantrell, me. Sometimes I have to click 3 or four times so it works, I thought it was the mouse hardware problem ...
[17:33] <leo-unglaub> Hi, i am building a "custom action" in thunar....but i need a placeholder %F with contains all selected filed from all open thunar instances?
[17:33] <leo-unglaub> is ther a option for that?
[17:36] <jmcantrell> jesusrmx: it's happening with my external mouse and my touchpad, so i doubt it's hardware
[17:51] <metsys23> hi fellows
[17:53] <jmcantrell> jesusrmx: do you happen to use btnx?
[17:54] <metsys23> I am with a big problem and you probably can help me: my computer gets to hot when i am using xubuntu, heats up even more than when using windows, any sugestion to fix it?
[17:55] <jesusrmx> jmcantrell, no, just standard support
[17:55] <metsys23> is there a software that can help me with it?
[17:57] <leo-unglaub> metsys23: i guess that your fans are controled by the os himself and windows had some divers for that
[17:57] <leo-unglaub> metsys23: yo should go into the bios and enable the automatic fan powering
[17:57] <leo-unglaub> so you don't have to worry about it
[17:59] <ThePendulum> How do I run a certain command on start-up?
[17:59] <ThePendulum> Or, is there another way to configure & maintain a dualscreen setup besides "xrandr --output DFP3 --left-of DFP4"?
[17:59] <metsys23> leo-unglaub, automatic fan powering? i never heard about it. i will try it, thanks!
[17:59] <metsys23> i will try it rigth now, brb
[18:00] <leo-unglaub> metsys23: or maybe auto fan control
[18:04] <metsys23> leo-unglaub, back... There is an option in my bios named Fan always on and i have ir enabled so it should be right
[18:05] <leo-unglaub> metsys23: another way would be with lm_sensors
[18:05] <leo-unglaub> but sady i only have a good gernam toturial
[18:06] <leo-unglaub> metsys23: what model is your computer?
[18:07] <metsys23> compaq presario cq60
[18:07] <metsys23> it always get hotter really fast, is a model issue
[18:07] <ThePendulum> That's why I prefer to build my own systems, hehe
[18:08] <metsys23> but in windwos it auto-slowdown when it is too hot
[18:08] <metsys23> and in linux it just poweroff :(
[18:08] <leo-unglaub> metsys23: but the fans are running all the time?
[18:08] <leo-unglaub> maybe there is to much dust in it?
[18:08] <ThePendulum> metsys23: Do you have room for more fans? Perhaps replace some fans with better ones?
[18:08] <leo-unglaub> have you tryed cleanin it?
[18:09] <ThePendulum> And indeed, make sure it isn't clogged with dust
[18:10] <leo-unglaub> metsys23: in xfce4-goodies there are some scripts witrh allow you to monitor the temp in your computer and take some actions if the temp is rising to fast
[18:11] <metsys23> yes, it can be a problem, i never open this computer, is a laptop with about 4 years
[18:11] <metsys23> probably it is clogged with dust... the fans are working by the moment i start it until i shutdown it :)
[18:12] <leo-unglaub> metsys23: than the first thing is cleaning it
[18:12] <ThePendulum> Oh it's a laptop
[18:12] <leo-unglaub> metsys23: that can bring you the releave you needet with the temp probem
[18:15] <metsys23> leo-unglaub and ThePendulum you are rigth, i probably will open it by the first time and aspire it
[18:15] <metsys23> thanks a lot
[18:15] <leo-unglaub> metsys23: :)
[18:15] <ThePendulum> Be careful, laptops are a bitch to open up and put together again
[18:15] <metsys23> a will see some videos about how to open it :)
[18:15] <metsys23> ThePendulum, thats what i am afraid :(
[18:16] <leo-unglaub> metsys23: well, the worst thing is that you have to buy a new laptop...with also fixes the heating problem *g*
[18:16] <ThePendulum> lol
[18:20] <metsys23> leo-unglaub, hahahaha thats right, and in fact this one is getting a bit old :) but there is no money to bougth a new one :(
[18:29] <mongy> does it support cpu frequency scaling?
[18:34] <toonRJ> somebody can help me to install vmware on xubuntu 10.04?
[18:34] <toonRJ> i have a problem with kernel headers
[18:44] <ThePendulum> Could anyone connect to me using TeamViewer and set up Xubuntu to utilize both my screens, or tell me how?
[18:46] <covidiu> Hello. I accidentally clicked on an "Do not show this message again button" on a notification message. Is there any way to undo that?
[18:47] <ThePendulum> What program?
[18:48] <covidiu> Just the regular notification bubble I get when connection is established.
[18:49] <ThePendulum> Hmm
[19:19] <mongy> covidiu: the file in ~/.gconf/apps/nm-applet
[19:20] <mongy> <entry name="disable-connected-notifications" mtime="1323012638" type="bool" value="true"/>    change to false
[19:31] <covidiu> mongy: Thanks.
[19:49] <mongy> Im trying to use gnome-mplayer but it only opens in a small player controls only size, and I need to resize the window to see any video.  I have enaled "save window size and location" in the prefs but makes no different
[19:50] <Sysi> what if you disable it
[19:51] <mongy> it was disabled by default.
[19:51] <mvandamme> hi all, I installed Xubuntu 11.10 in English, but I want to change the language. Is it possible ?
[19:51] <Sysi> also try enabling "resize window when new video is loaded
[19:53] <leo-unglaub> mvandamme: System Settings... -> Language Support
[19:54] <mongy> it was..
[19:55] <mvandamme> @leo-unglaub: I do not have System Settings... If have Settings->Settings Manager
[19:55] <leo-unglaub> mvandamme: just type language in the programm finder
[19:55] <leo-unglaub> i just have the german name here :)
[19:56] <leo-unglaub> mvandamme: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/
[19:57] <mvandamme> @leo-unglaub: it is "Xubuntu", not "Ubuntu" ...
[19:57] <leo-unglaub> mvandamme: it's the same way
[19:58] <leo-unglaub> on all buntus
[19:58] <leo-unglaub> *buntu
[19:59] <mvandamme> @leo-unglaub: I'm sorry, but I do not have System->Administration->Language support ?
[19:59] <leo-unglaub> the path is different, but it's the same tool
[20:00] <mongy> I'll just go back to vlc.
[20:00] <mongy> can't be bothered with silly bugs
[20:00] <leo-unglaub> mvandamme: open a terminal and type "gnome-language-selector "
[20:00] <mvandamme> @leo-unglaub: that did the trick... thanks
[20:01] <leo-unglaub> np
[20:09] <jadoe> I get massive tearing (e.g. when moving windows). How do I fix that?
[20:11] <jadoe> (Intel HD 3000, if that matters)
[20:17] <mongy> jadoe:  compositing enabled?
[20:17] <jadoe> yes
[20:17] <mongy> disable it
[20:18] <jadoe> didn't help
[20:19] <GridCube> jadoe, are you using your proper drivers?
[20:19] <jadoe> that is a good question. i have no idea.
[20:21] <Sysi> 10.04 LTS or newer?
[20:22] <jadoe> 11.10
[20:22] <Sysi> should have the right driver
[20:22] <GridCube> jadoe, check with >gksu jockey-gtk
[20:23] <jadoe> doesn't offer anything, empty list
[20:23] <GridCube> then you don't need drivers :/
[20:26] <Sysi> intel, default drivers are the best you got, you can options them with xorg.conf and maybe something else but I don't really know about that
[20:27] <GridCube> jadoe, this thread should interest you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1728526
[20:27] <jadoe> thanks
[20:56] <mongy> blueman-applet crashing on startup, is there a fix?
[20:58] <ThePendulum> So
[20:58] <ThePendulum> Xfce dual-screen, anyone? :O
[20:58] <metsys23> hi felows
[20:59] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[21:01] <mongy> sup
[21:03] <jadoe> hm. no tearing with compiz.
[21:07] <metsys23> a quick question (sorry to bore again): is there any way to the OS recognize my 4gb ram in a 32x OS (xubuntu)?
[21:07] <Unit193> !pae
[21:08] <Unit193> PAE kernels are default for Pangolin.
[21:08] <mongy> jadoe: what did you di different
[21:08] <mongy> do*
[21:09] <metsys23> hum, never heard about pae... it transform OS in a 64bits system or simply allow it to regonize my 4gb ram?
[21:09] <Unit193> It's a 32bit helper, not trnasfer.
[21:09] <jadoe> mongy: nothing. i installed compiz and did "compiz --replace"
[21:09] <Unit193> Well, nothing is a "trnasfer"
[21:11] <metsys23> Unit193, thanks! i will read a litle about it and try to set up it. Thanks!
[21:11] <mongy> jadoe: I use that as well.  a side effect is it got rid of my tearing too.
[21:11] <Unit193> Great!
[23:25] <Foxhoundz> How do I save my screen brightness settings
[23:25] <Foxhoundz> it resets every time I reboot the computer
[23:50] <ThePendulum> So
[23:50] <ThePendulum> I installed Dropbox, but the Dropbox option doesn't show up in the menu?
[23:52] <Unit193> Should be under "Internet".
[23:53] <jadoe> is there a way to make a launcher bring an already running instance of the program to the front instead of starting a new instance?
[23:53] <ThePendulum> Unit193: There's no such thing as "Internet"?
[23:54] <ThePendulum> jadoe: Isn't that what the Window Buttons are for?
[23:56] <jadoe> well, i've been using os x for the last five years, i'm having a hard time adjusting. i'd prefer dock-like behaviour. i'll have to give the dock clones a try, i guess.
[23:56] <mongy> ThePendulum: /usr/share/applications/  and the desktop file make sure it has Network in the category
[23:56] <xubuntu049> hi all, who can help me
[23:57] <mongy> jadoe: there are a few launchers like cairo, docky and awn which are comparable to osx
[23:57] <ThePendulum> jadoe: Well, I agree
[23:58] <mongy> or there is dockbarx in the panel which does like windows
[23:58] <ThePendulum> mongy: What exactly do you mean with "make sure it has Netwerk in the category"? What category?