[00:20] <Rionsama> hello
[00:20] <Rionsama> any helper around?
[00:25] <Rionsama> hey im a newbie here can anyone help me?
[00:26] <Rionsama> hello?
[00:28] <Rionsama> ...
[00:28] <Rionsama> anyone?
[01:25] <`Korvin> Hey, on a single monitor, I'm getting cursor artifacting
[01:25] <`Korvin> I have 2 monitorws
[01:26] <`Korvin> the main one has cursor artifacting
[01:57] <Snowhog> Kubuntu 11.10 running KDE 4.7.4, all fully upto date. I installed kdiff3 earlier this month. In the K Menu, the entry for it is in Lost & Found. It should of course, be located elsewhere in the menu. Why did this occur, and what do I need to do to fix it so that it appears where it is supposed to?
[01:58] <Snowhog> I think it is a .desktop issue.
[02:35] <Snowhog> Solved it. Edited /usr/share/applications/kde4/kdiff3.desktop and added the following line to the end:  Category=Utility
[02:36] <Snowhog> kdiff3 now appears in K > Utilities
[02:40] <raven20> hello everyone
[02:40] <raven20> I am new to Kubuntu. Does anyone have any suggestions for websites to find good software at?
[02:41] <ikonia> raven20: just open the package manager and search
[02:41] <raven20> Where is the package manager at?
[02:41] <raven20> never mind stupid question
[04:14] <joseluis64> hello!
[04:14] <joseluis64> good night/afternoon/morning!
[04:14] <joseluis64> I have an issue with rekonq
[04:14] <joseluis64> that is REALLY annoying
[04:20] <mr-rich> do tell
[04:21] <joseluis64> http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3812/why1.png
[04:21] <joseluis64> it is a render issue
[04:21] <joseluis64> I have it random
[04:22] <mr-rich> Stick with FF ... or dl Chrome ...
[04:22] <joseluis64> the issue is with Rekonq
[04:23] <joseluis64> I pasted the link with the screenshot
[04:24] <mr-rich> I saw it ... and I'm suggesting using FF or Chrome ...
[04:24] <joseluis64> ok
[04:25] <joseluis64> I reported that in kde bugs, but they said they could't reproduce it upstream
[04:25] <Sentynel> joseluis64: it looks like the page in rekonq hasn't finished loading yeat
[04:25] <Sentynel> there's still a progress bar
[04:25] <Sentynel> *yet
[04:25] <Sentynel> and that just looks like the CSS hasn't loaded
[04:25] <joseluis64> yes, it never finishes to load
[04:26] <joseluis64> even when the progress bar is gone, it never loads the CSS
[04:26] <joseluis64> it doesn't happen always
[04:27] <joseluis64> happens random with every webpage
[04:27] <joseluis64> but most with pages like youtube
[06:04] <guo> dwed
[08:57] <olli> Good morning from Germany! I could use some assistance to make digikam use the libraw which I've compiled and not the one shipped by the packetmanager
[10:05] <ryzzan> just installed ubuntu in two pcs... wasn't i supposed to be able to see them when "browse network"?
[10:05] <ryzzan> samba is installed
[10:08] <ryzzan> workgroup is set
[10:08] <ryzzan> what do i need to do?
[10:08] <ryzzan> (sty about my english)
[10:08] <ryzzan> sry*
[10:08] <ryzzan> anyone
[10:08] <FloodBotK1> ryzzan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:08] <ryzzan> :P
[10:48] <yofel> olli: I'm not sure if that's possible, from what I know digikam uses libkdcraw which uses it's own copy of libraw, #digikam might know more
[10:48] <olli> yofel: thx a lot, I'm compiling it right at the moment
[10:49] <tat> what is about canonical dropping kubuntu, will kubuntu now faint into the dark of history ?
[10:49] <olli> does xubuntu "faint into the dark of history"?
[10:50] <tat> olli : well i have no idea, but i guess there are a lot of volunters that are still working hard on keeping kubuntu what it is
[10:51] <tat> i have some friends who say it is time to look for a new distro that runs kde, cause they fear kubuntu will become somewhat outdated in the near futur
[10:52] <olli> i doubt that
[10:53] <olli> I've just installed xubuntu yesterdays and I believe it has profited from not being subject to canonical's endeavours
[11:15] <grmls> hi
[11:27] <marek_> hello
[11:27] <marek_> is anyone here?
[11:47] <raven20> So where do i get the files i need such as adobe flash player?
[11:48] <raven20> where do i get the drivers that allow me to use pandora and netflix etc.
[12:05] <raven20> new user here help!!!
[12:06] <bazhang> !info flashplugin-installer
[12:07] <raven20> it says that something else is controlling my downloads right now. But i am unaware of anything controlling anything
[12:08] <yofel> raven20: open 'konsole' and run in there: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[12:08] <yofel> does that work?
[12:09] <raven20> trying it now
[12:10] <raven20> looks like it is working thankyou
[12:11] <bazhang> ok
[12:15] <raven20> how do i know which processes are extranious
[12:15] <raven20> ?
[12:16] <raven20> or is there some way for me to just automatically close everything but the core programs?
[12:18] <raven20> how do i know which processes are extranious
[12:18] <raven20> or is there some way for me to just automatically close everything but the core programs?
[12:18] <Torch> raven20: define "core programs"
 Programs crucial to system integrity
[12:19] <raven20> I want to close everything i can without screwing up my computer in some weird way
[12:20] <Torch> raven20: why?
[12:21] <raven20> ..... because i dont want the extranious programs lagging my computer down
[12:21] <Torch> raven20: don't worry about that. as long as your system runs fine, leave everything as it is
[12:22] <raven20> .... That doesnt help my plight
[12:22] <raven20> they are programs that shouldnt be there
[12:22] <Torch> raven20: kubuntu does not run anything that should not be there. why would it?
[12:23] <raven20> because my girlfriend was playing with it. Its her laptop my troubleshooting problem
[12:24] <raven20> she downloaded all sorts of stuff. to the extent of 3 music players etc...
[12:24] <raven20> some work some dont
[12:24] <Torch> raven20: then just uninstall those
[12:25] <raven20> and when the processes dont stop?
[12:25] <Torch> raven20: then tell us which processes don't stop and what you tried to make them
[12:25] <Torch> raven20: if in doubt, reboot after uninstalling
[12:26] <raven20> i have not touched any of them yet.
[12:26] <raven20> ok
[13:35] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:38] <orated> Hi BluesKaj
[13:38] <BluesKaj> hi orated
[13:45] <orated> I often find a delay in playback, sudden no sound and random bups turning speaker on/off. For example, if I click on a file to delete it, the dialog box pops up with a warning sound if I want to confirm deletion. Sometimes that sound doesn't comes otherwise it's audible after file deletion. And during that time, a 'bup' speaker sound comes before and after playback. $pulseaudio -v: http://paste.ubuntu.com/848523/ . Can you help me
[13:45] <orated> find the cause please?
[13:47] <BluesKaj> orated,  sorry , I know nothing about system sounds since I find them annoying and are permanently turned off
[13:50] <orated> BluesKaj: Hmm... but any idea if pulseaudio is usually installed by default?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> orated, yes it is
[13:52] <orated> 'coz I see aptitude show pulseaudio to return - libltdl3 (< 1.5.24-1), pulseaudio-module-rygel-media-server (< 1:1.0-0ubuntu3.1), pulseaudio-module-udev (<           1:1.0-0ubuntu3.1)
[13:52] <orated> for Conflicts^
[13:52] <orated> Ah-ok
[13:53] <BluesKaj> aptitude doesn't resolve conflicts as well as apt-get in my experience ..wasn't always the case , but it is now
[13:54] <orated> I don't know peroperly about sound. But is alsa used or pulseaudio?
[13:54] <orated> I was thinking of purgin pulseaudio
[13:56] <BluesKaj> orated,  to purge pulse , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y --reinstall install alsa-base alsa-utils; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse
[13:57] <orated> Yes, but is it advisable? I mean if its default, so it can cause problems ..
[13:59] <BluesKaj> well, I've purged it several times to get rid of in order to test alsa modifications without interference from pulse , and when done a pulse reinstall always worked ok  afterwards ...a reboot is usually required tho
[14:40] <destimyria> salut
[14:58] <mikelo> hi everyone i have trouble with flashplugin    when im trying tu purge it it asks me to remove a half of my system as a dependances about 500 packages
[15:00] <mikelo> to be precise im trying to remove package flashplugin-installer by aptitude
[15:00] <mikelo> im using kubuntu 11.10 amd64
[15:01] <mikelo> any help?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> mikelo,  use your package manager to find the correct app name then use aptitude to remove it
[15:20] <mikelo> BluesKaj, correct package name is flashplugin-installer but aptitude wants to remove half of my system with it im no sure its ok
[15:24] <BluesKaj> mikkel__,  try sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer , instead
[15:25] <BluesKaj> oops sorry mikkel__ , he feft , but I didn't notice
[15:25] <BluesKaj> mikelo tht is
[15:26] <Guest39306> BluesKaj thanks it works! i wounder how i didnt gues
[15:26] <mikelo> BluesKaj thanks it works! i wounder how i didnt gues
[15:30] <BluesKaj> mikelo,  aptitude,  doesn't handle dependencies as well as apt-get , now.
[15:33] <mikelo> BluesKaj i see     i reinstalled flashplugin but it didnt help i stil cant play music and videos
[15:33] <ikonia> BluesKaj: has something changed in aptitude ?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> ikonia,  only reports I have is that apt-get seems to handle dependencies more accurately than aptitude ...aptitude is no longer installed by default afaik
[15:37] <BluesKaj> mikelo,  have you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:39] <mikelo> for the first time yes but now i tried adobe-flashplugin package instead
[15:40] <mikelo> i suspect its something wrong with the site, coz i can play youtube
[15:42] <BluesKaj> mikelo,  which site ? paste the url here so we can test it
[15:43] <mikelo> music.yandex.ru
[15:45] <BluesKaj> that's no help ...I'm not allowed ..not in Russia or the Ukraine
[15:46] <BluesKaj> mikelo, there is a workaround to the flash problem . Download the latest flshplayer from the adobe site , extract the file , then copy the libflashplayer.so file to /usr/lib/mozilla//plugins with root permissions . Alt+F2, kdesudo dolphin /usr/lib/mozilla
[15:49] <inconnu> slt je usi nouveau vous pouvez mz dire ou et internet
[15:49] <inconnu> svp
[15:54] <mikelo> BluesKaj, its the miracle! now i can play music. i have flashplugin-alternative.so in this folder but no libflashplayer.so .
[15:54] <mikelo> had fix
[15:54] <BluesKaj> yes, that works as well . mike
[15:54] <BluesKaj> mikelo, ^
[15:54] <mikelo> call me mike its ok
[15:55] <mikelo>  or mihail
[15:55] <BluesKaj> I just didn't hit the tab button hard enough
[15:55] <designbybeck> greetings all
[15:56] <BluesKaj> hey designbybeck
[15:56] <designbybeck> so what's groovin' today?
[16:00] <mikelo> BluesKaj, why you cant go on the ru zone?
[16:01] <designbybeck> I'm reading up on creating my own KDE Theme. I want to do a branded custom theme for the university I work for. To pitch to them, their very own Operating System
[16:03] <BluesKaj> mikelo,  the site only allows users from Russia , Ukraine and some other eastern euro countries , not North America
[16:04] <mikelo> BluesKaj. Hm i didnt know. So find russian proxy... lol
[16:06] <BluesKaj> mikelo,  no need , have plenty of access to other music sites
[16:11] <mikelo> BluesKaj, thanks a lot. Bye
[17:04] <designbybeck> BluesKaj: what are you upt today?
[18:42] <Ratchetman> Could someone help me with 'sudo apt-get install nfs-common'?
[18:42] <Ratchetman> I keep getting this error message: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:42] <Ratchetman> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:43] <aftertaf> you dont have an update running, synaptic, muon or anything else ?
[18:43] <Ratchetman> I do have muon running! Thank you!
[18:43] <aftertaf> ha :)
[18:44] <Ratchetman> I'm noob
[18:44] <aftertaf> been there, asked that
[18:44] <Ratchetman> :) guess I should read more manuals and such.
[18:45] <aftertaf> its about understanding what the system is telling you
[18:45] <Ratchetman> You'd think with multi cored processors you could multitask updates.
[18:45] <aftertaf> " Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[18:45] <Ratchetman> What does it mean to lock the directory?
[18:45] <aftertaf> has to be one process updating, cos otherwise you could do all sorts of uncool things and break your dependencies ;)
[18:46] <aftertaf> its a file called 'lock'
[18:46] <Ratchetman> Ohhhh
[18:46] <aftertaf> if its there, then it means a process created it
[18:46] <aftertaf> when the process finishes, it removes it
[18:47] <Ratchetman> Yeah I did try and 'apt-get -f install' and it had a lot of dependancy issues.
[18:47] <Ratchetman> Probably from muon running right?
[18:49] <aftertaf> from an update process that didnt finish correctly, probably
[18:49] <Ratchetman> I see. Now I just looked at what it was doing and there's a good 134 being installed and 27 removed. I only selected 3 things...
[18:50] <Ratchetman> Could it be possible that it is finishing something that didn't work the last time I did an upgrade to my system?
[18:50] <aftertaf> yep
[18:50] <aftertaf> could eb
[18:50] <Ratchetman> Ooooooh.
[18:51] <Ratchetman> Would it continue to make things worse if I didn't allow oeneric updates to finish?
[18:57] <designbybeck> I saw the setting somehwere, but I can't find it now. How do I change from single click to double click for files/folders?
[18:58] <orated> designbybeck: System Settings > Input Devices > Mouse > Advanced
[18:59] <orated> s/Advanced/General*
[19:00] <maniX> can someone guide me to the module for broadcom 4313 bluetooth device
[19:07] <designbybeck> ah thank you orated
[19:09] <aftertaf> Ratchetman: while its downloading, you can interrupt 'CTRL C' it without issues
[19:09] <maniX> hello guys, i have a hp-g6-1219tu laptop with kubuntu 11.10 running on it. It has a hybrid broadcom wifi-bluetooth adapter(BCM-4313) installed on it. i have installed Broadcom STA driver on it. But still i am not able to have the bluetooth on. Someone please guide me to download the module for the bluetooth driver
[19:09] <aftertaf> but why would you want to not allow it ?
[19:10] <Ratchetman> Oh ok thanks aftertaf
[19:10] <Ratchetman> Mainly to get another update done so that I may install files to my mp3 player
[19:10] <Ratchetman> Or an install rather
[19:10] <aftertaf> ha :)
[19:11] <aftertaf> if its processing, leave it be...
[19:11] <Ratchetman> Yes, trivial but currently a top priority
[19:11] <aftertaf> better to learn apt-get * than do things both in colsole and with a gfx package tool
[19:11] <Ratchetman> If I get the music on I can go out and leave it to update.
[19:12] <aftertaf> if you do so and it 'breaks' something, itll tell you :
[19:12] <aftertaf> ie -f install needed, etc...
[19:12] <Ratchetman> Yeah I like it better for it's funcionality but muon lists things and I can search through it.
[19:13] <Ratchetman> I don't know how to do that in konsole
[19:14] <Ratchetman> Aftertaf: first and foremost how do I do a system upgrade with apt-get?
[19:14] <orated> maniX: Did you try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx ?
[19:15] <JackyAlcine> System upgrades in Kubuntu are simple.
[19:16] <JackyAlcine> If you use 'apt-get'; then it's "apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get upgrade"
[19:16] <JackyAlcine> Aptitude would be "aptitude full-upgrade && aptitude-safe upgrade"
[19:16] <orated> maniX: If you run lsmod | grep brc do you see brcm80211 or brcmsmac in the output?
[19:16] <JackyAlcine> However, if Muon or your package manager detects updates if should report them.
[19:17] <maniX> orated: nopes
[19:17] <Ratchetman> Excellent. Thank you.
[19:17] <maniX> orated i have already done that. My kernel is using wl driver
[19:18] <maniX> orated: i have brcmsmac and other drivers blacklisted
[19:18] <Ratchetman> JackyAlcine: Is aptitude similar to apt-get?
[19:19] <JackyAlcine> Ratchetman: it is, it provides a CLI (command-line interface).
[19:19] <orated> maniX: Seems right then. Do you have any conflicting driver for wireless?
[19:19] <JackyAlcine> It's sometimes easier to use Aptitude because it provides an interface, but most people recommend sticking to apt.
[19:19] <Ratchetman> Thanks for the info.
[19:20] <Ratchetman> I think I'll stick to apt. It's not failed me yet.
[19:20] <maniX> orated: i guess the conflicting ones were bcma and brcmsmac. And i have blaclisted them in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf file
[19:23] <orated> maniX: 'sudo apt-get build-dep linux'  didn't help either?
[19:23] <orated> after having headers
[19:24] <maniX> Orated: i havent tried these links. Actually whatever i did was based on google research. I myself dont know much about linux, but i am learning.
[19:25] <maniX> orated: earlier i had the problem that the kernel was using brcmsmca driver. so i with help from google i blaclisted the bcma and brcmsmca. It made the wifi to work but not the bluetooth
[19:26] <orated> maniX: I remember facing problem with broadcom that only source file helped in the end. I'm trying to help you from my experience.. Can you install linux-headers-generic and run 'apt-get build-dep linux' ?
[19:29] <maniX> orated: i have the headers, "apt-get build-dep linux" is running
[19:30] <orated> er do you have build-essentials?
[19:30] <maniX> lemme check
[19:30] <orated> sorry, forgot to mention that
[19:30] <maniX> what is the command to check that?
[19:31] <orated> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:31] <orated> That will prompt for installation if not installed
[19:32] <maniX> build-dep linux is running, will chk this right after this
[19:33] <maniX> Its installed orated
[19:33] <orated> Well, build essential and headers are required to run that
[19:33] <orated> Any errors?
[19:33] <orated> k
[19:33] <maniX> none that i noticed
[19:33] <maniX> no, no errors
[19:35] <orated> With that command, the driver dependencies were built, so you need to reboot to check if it works
[19:36] <maniX> ok then rebooting... see you soon..:D
[19:36] <orated> Good luck
[19:40] <designbybeck> just had a great talk about the Spark
[19:41] <JackyAlcine_> designbybeck: how was it?
[19:42] <designbybeck> very good JackyAlcine_ we were brainstorming about the uses in K-12 as well as HigherED
[19:42] <JackyAlcine_> With the kde-education, that should be fun!
[19:42] <JackyAlcine_> In fact...
[19:42] <designbybeck> I know a number of places that have given "sold" their incoming students iPads
[19:42] <designbybeck> and/or bought the faculty one
[19:42] <JackyAlcine_> If more schools collaborated with producing text books in ePub or PDF formats, you could compete the iPad standards.
[19:42] <designbybeck> wasting taxpayers $$$
[19:43] <designbybeck> yes yes that ist he other thing i hope happens JackyAlcine_
[19:43] <maniX> orated: man it didnt worked
[19:44] <JackyAlcine_> Don't have to hope.
[19:44] <JackyAlcine_> It most definitely can.
[19:44] <JackyAlcine_> All they really need is perhaps a UI/app designed for such a purpose.
[19:44] <JackyAlcine_> KTextbook, for lack of a better term.
[19:45] <JackyAlcine_> And a repository (or a means of setting up local repositories on-site) to obtain the textbook.
[19:45] <designbybeck> i wonder how Cablire would work on it
[19:45] <designbybeck> or if it could be rewrote and brought into KDE land
[19:45] <orated> maniX: Ah. Are you on wireless connection atm? Are you sure you unloaded conflicting drivers?
[19:45] <JackyAlcine_> Almost forgot about that.
[19:45] <orated> s/drivers/modules*
[19:46] <JackyAlcine_> hey Ratchetman
[19:46] <Ratchetman> Hello
[19:46] <Ratchetman> Just did a reboot and overclock to prepare for the update.
[19:46] <maniX> orated: what is atm? and how do i knw if i am on it?   I dont know if the drivers conflicting with wifi were the same as ones conflicting with bluetooth
[19:47] <Ratchetman> So far it's been running smoothly and quickly. :D
[19:47] <Ratchetman> I appreciate the help JackyAlcine.
[19:47] <JackyAlcine_> No problem Ratchetman :)
[19:47] <maniX> orated: cause the ones i disabled made my wifi to work. As earlier even the wifi was not working
[19:47] <orated> maniX: Are you using wireless connection or wired?
[19:47] <JackyAlcine_> maniX: atm is short for "at the moment"
[19:48] <orated>  maniX Yes, what were they which helped wifi to work?
[19:48] <designbybeck> JackyAlcine_:  are you in educational field?
[19:48] <maniX> orated: presently i am using mobile broadband.
[19:49] <orated> maniX: Can you pastebin iwconfig and lspci ?
[19:49] <JackyAlcine_> designbybeck: No, but I am a freshmen in college here in New York.
[19:49] <designbybeck> ah yes
[19:49] <designbybeck> I work for a small university in west central Texas
[19:50] <designbybeck> what are you studying JackyAlcine_?
[19:50] <JackyAlcine_> I wonder, if I could get my hands on at least 5 Sparks, I could try out how it'd work in my old junior high, they love me here.
[19:50] <orated> maniX: Just run those two commands and paste them to pastebin.com and paste the links here please
[19:50] <maniX> orated:here i will pastebin u all i know, wait
[19:50] <designbybeck> hee hee
[19:50] <JackyAlcine_> They let me film there so I don't think the principal'd mind me conducting an experiment like that.
[19:50] <JackyAlcine_> And it benefits the students, to use such technology.
[19:50] <designbybeck> that would be great JackyAlcine_
[19:51] <designbybeck> i thoguht about taking a film crew around our campus with a laptop with the latst Kubuntu KDE 4.8 on there and telling people, "
[19:51] <designbybeck> "Hey would you like to see the new Windows 8"
[19:51] <JackyAlcine_> lol
[19:51] <designbybeck> and then tell them well no this is all free and open source software
[19:51] <JackyAlcine_> Typically, I don't throw the term F/OSS like that.
[19:52] <maniX> orated: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849062/ will patebin u the commands in moment
[19:52] <designbybeck> I'm cofounder of the TexOS Open Source Projecct, we work with non profits to help get computers and open souce training to kids
[19:52] <JackyAlcine_> I compare properitary and F/OSS to a brick and Lego pieces.
[19:52] <JackyAlcine_> Best way, imho, to explain to a new-comer, lol.
[19:52] <designbybeck> I like where you are going with this lego concept JackyAlcine_.... continue :)
[19:53] <designbybeck> i'll have to do a graphic mock up of that
[19:53] <designbybeck> with your credit of course
[19:53] <designbybeck>   / blessing
[19:53] <JackyAlcine_> lol, no problem, licensed under the CC-BY-SA 3 :P
[19:53] <designbybeck> did you say what you are going to school for JackyAlcine_?
[19:54] <JackyAlcine_> right now, I'm going for computer science and sociology
[19:54] <designbybeck> nice
[19:55] <JackyAlcine_> and with a brick, you only can really use it at its face value (unless you literally break it apart, but then you only have the option to either use those small parts independently or barely get it back together)
[19:55] <JackyAlcine_> with lego, you can disaseemble, reassemble, and utilize at whim.
[19:55] <designbybeck> and you have more colors to pick from with legos ;)
[19:56] <JackyAlcine_> Lol precisely!
[19:58] <JackyAlcine_> An idea's only as good as its implementation.
[19:58] <Ratchetman> Two of my favorite things in the world used together to provide insight to a world so many people miss out on. Tip of the hat to you.
[19:58] <JackyAlcine_> Such an idea requires resources I don't have at the moment.
[19:58] <JackyAlcine_> :)
[20:00]  * JackyAlcine_ peeks at Calibre.
[20:00] <JackyAlcine_> Maybe an addon to Calibre would be better.
[20:01] <orated> maniX: Ok, that's what you tried initially. Please pastebin the above commands and also 'rfkill list'?
[20:04] <designbybeck> true JackyAlcine_
[20:04] <designbybeck> i think there are some projects like thsi out there, but they all need to get on the same page. We need something VERY easy for facutly to create/make/edit eTextbooks
[20:04] <maniX_> orated: u there? sorry for ping u again and again. i dont know if i am connected to the channel or not.
[20:05] <orated> maniX_: Yes
[20:05] <designbybeck> then to share them, make them modular, so other faculty can take the content they want to use and mix and match with other content
[20:05] <JackyAlcine_> Indeed.
[20:06] <JackyAlcine_> The only thing I'm afraid of is having too complicated of a UI for a student to use.
[20:06] <orated> maniX_: You pinged out after your http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849062/ post
[20:07] <JackyAlcine_> Like maybe having only a list of textbooks as an initial screen, a listing of sources to get books from and perhaps a means of reading, annotation, publicly commenting (with moderation by professers), etc.
[20:07] <jmut> hi. How do I update kubuntu packages from console? Also do I have to kill X somehow if there are kde based packages in the update?
[20:07] <maniX_> orated: hmm... u got my pastebin links?
[20:07] <maniX_> orated: the ones i pasted after this one?
[20:07] <designbybeck> as far as the Spark goes, what we were throwing around was the desktop widgets, with their class/assignment calendar, eBooks and other things
[20:07] <orated> No
[20:07] <Ratchetman> jmut are you familiar with apt-get?
[20:07] <designbybeck> at their fingertips
[20:08] <maniX_> orated:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849069/
[20:08] <JackyAlcine_> jmut: In Konsole (or your terminal app), run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[20:08] <JackyAlcine_> Hmm.
[20:08] <JackyAlcine_> Something like that could be insanely useful.
[20:08] <jmut> Ratchetman: JackyAlcine_ thats good. but what about KDE. or it's safe todo within X?
[20:08] <designbybeck> it would have their email as well
[20:09] <designbybeck> and that thing has a webcam right? So they can do group collaobration :D
[20:09] <designbybeck> anywhere anytime
[20:09] <Ratchetman> Works everytime
[20:09] <orated> maniX_: Ah/ What does 'rfkill list' outputs?
[20:09] <JackyAlcine_> My internet's really bonkers. >_<
[20:09] <maniX_> brcmwl-0: Wireless LAN
[20:09] <maniX_>         Soft blocked: no
[20:09] <maniX_>         Hard blocked: no
[20:10] <orated> duh
[20:10] <JackyAlcine_> jmut: Do you have the Kubuntu PPA added to your system?
[20:10] <JackyAlcine_> designbybeck: But with so much data in one spot, there's a need to implement a cloud.
[20:10] <JackyAlcine_> Perfect use of ownCloud here.
[20:10] <maniX_> orated
[20:10] <designbybeck> I'm in the middle of nowhere! JackyAlcine_ but lucky a rich oil field guy paid to have a 3G tower out here, so I am connecting my netbook through my cellphone hotspot!
[20:10] <designbybeck> :D
[20:11] <maniX_> orated: i can assure u that i hntu and windows 7 installedave bluetooth. and is on. i have a dual booth system here with kubu
[20:11] <maniX_> have*
[20:11] <designbybeck> True true JackyAlcine_ a local campus wide cloud for their educational content the school needs to control/manage
[20:11] <designbybeck> then the rest can be the big cloud
[20:11] <maniX_> lol the message got scrambled
[20:11] <orated> maniX_: understood
[20:11] <JackyAlcine_> Such a system could be easily set up, since most campuses provide Wifi for students (over here they do)
[20:12] <orated> Try rfkill block 1
[20:12] <JackyAlcine_> and there could be a public server of sorts so students off-campus could connect to it.
[20:12] <designbybeck> OpenStack.org
[20:12] <orated> maniX_:  and then see  if rfkill list changes
[20:12] <JackyAlcine_> jmut: you have the Kubuntu PPA installed on your system?
[20:12] <orated> maniX_: You said your wireless was working, right?
[20:13] <designbybeck> I'm out for now, thanks for the brainstorming JackyAlcine_
[20:13] <JackyAlcine_> No problem, designbybeck. :)
[20:13] <maniX_> orated : yeah wifi working, but "no adapters found" for bluetooth. and rfkill list didnt changed
[20:13] <JackyAlcine_> I might blog about this :D
[20:13] <jmut> JackyAlcine_: http://pastebin.com/M73Y2Ch5   that?
[20:14] <orated> maniX_: Your rfkill should have listed something like hci0: Bluetooth if bluetooth adapter is detected
[20:14] <orated> well,
[20:14] <jmut> JackyAlcine_: pretty much have my default repository..haven't changed anything
[20:15] <maniX_> orated: well,...?
[20:15] <JackyAlcine_> jmut: You've installed Kubuntu or are trying to install kubunutu-desktop onto Ubuntu?
[20:15] <JackyAlcine_> If the former, then just run the apt-get update to fetch new changes.
[20:16] <JackyAlcine_> You're running KDE 4.7?
[20:16] <JackyAlcine_> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa
[20:16] <orated> maniX_:  I think only Broadcom STA driver  are required
[20:16] <jmut> JackyAlcine_: I have Kubuntu installed already. But I just want to upgrade it in best practices way. Since I am in X and there are some kde packages suggested for upgrade I wanted to ask first
[20:16] <orated> maniX_:  but hold on please, let me see http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php and http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txtBut
[20:17] <JackyAlcine_> Ah. Well, most likely apt has your interests in mind.
[20:17] <maniX_> orated: i visited the broadcoms site for that. i had their software installed. but it didnt worked at all
[20:17] <jmut> JackyAlcine_: 4.6.5
[20:17] <jmut> JackyAlcine_: ok :) will give a shot :) thanks a lot
[20:17] <orated> maniX_: I think you mixed both the approaches. With Broadcom STA driver  only rfkill lists it and block does the magic
[20:18] <maniX_> Orated this same link i used. but it didnt worked either. I just dont get it. Is there any other module that might be conflicting with the bluetooth particularly?
[20:18] <maniX_> orated: i dont get you?
[20:19] <orated> maniX_: You tried http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php or one from ubuntu repositories?
[20:19] <maniX_> here on kubuntu i tried only the one from ubuntu repos
[20:20] <maniX_> but on my ubuntu i tried both
[20:20] <maniX_> i have them installed seperately
[20:20] <maniX_> so they cannot be conflicting with each other(ubuntu on one partition and kubuntu on other)
[20:21] <orated> ah, I was about to confirm that
[20:21] <maniX_> :D
[20:21] <winut> does muon package manager create a log file? thanks
[20:22] <winut> i need to back out of a change i made
[20:23] <orated> maniX_: Ok, we will have one last fresh attempt? Can you pastebin lspci -v please
[20:23] <maniX_> yeah sure
[20:24] <maniX_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849102/
[20:24] <maniX_> orated: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849102/
[20:26] <orated> Kernel modules: wl, bcma, brcmsmac
[20:26] <maniX_> yes
[20:27] <maniX_> and in use is wl
[20:29] <orated> maniX_: You had firmware-b43* packages installed right?
[20:29] <maniX_> orated: how to chkk that?
[20:30] <jmut> JackyAlcine: all went ok :) Btw I have kernel upgrade skipped. Should I use  apt-get dist-upgrade  for it?
[20:30] <jmut> JackyAlcine: cause with apt-get upgrade it just skippes it
[20:30] <orated> maniX: Easy way would be to see if sudo apt-get install firmware-b43* prompts for installation .. otherwise see apt-cache search  firmware-b43* and aptitude show <package>
[20:31] <JackyAlcine> You skipped it or did apt skip it?
[20:31] <JackyAlcine> If the latter, then yes, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade would install it, but also bring you up to 11.10
[20:33] <maniX_> orated: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849113/
[20:33] <maniX_> i dont have it installed
[20:34] <jmut> JackyAlcine: apt skipped it
[20:35] <JackyAlcine> After upgrading to 11.10?
[20:35] <jmut> JackyAlcine: hmm... is that bad :)    bringing to 11.10 :)
[20:35] <orated> maniX_: That's fine. Now please pastebin - 'sudo rmmod -v wl' , 'jocky-text' and 'lsmod | grep wl'
[20:36] <jmut> JackyAlcine:  on dist-upgrade   it says those packages will be installed. thats all     linux-headers-2.6.38-13 linux-headers-2.6.38-13-generic linux-image-2.6.38-13-generic
[20:36] <JackyAlcine> Hmm.
[20:36] <jmut> JackyAlcine:  I am with 2.6.38-8-generic   now
[20:36] <JackyAlcine> That's not the latest stable.
[20:36] <JackyAlcine> You _might_ have to specifically install those if you want them.
[20:37] <maniX_> rmmod wl, wait=no (rmmod output). lsmod | grep wl returned me no output
[20:37] <jmut> JackyAlcine: Will wait a while I guess :)   I'll probably reinstall anyhow soon for SSD drive...will see.  Thank a lot JackyAlcine  All the best
[20:38] <maniX_> jockey-text:ERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for AppIndicator3
[20:38] <maniX_> Additional Drivers
[20:38] <maniX_> Searching for available drivers...
[20:39] <maniX_> this is all i got from the three commands, orated
[20:39] <JackyAlcine> jmut: you too :D
[20:39] <JackyAlcine> looks like a GTK3 dependency tied up in there.
[20:40] <maniX_> orated: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849115/
[20:41] <orated> yea
[20:41] <orated> There is no change in rfkill list, right?
[20:43] <maniX_> orated: wiered, i see nothing in rfkill this time
[20:43] <orated> maniX_: Yes
[20:44] <maniX_> but i have just checked my log. i recieved those outputs after i ran rfkill block 1
[20:44] <orated> Yes, I remember.. one moment
[20:45] <orated> maniX_: And you can alwyas unblock it
[20:45] <maniX_> orated: i dont get you
[20:45] <orated> maniX_: Hang on ,, you see no output or there is some output with soft blocked hard blocked etc?
[20:46] <orated> sudo rmmod -v wl will cause no output
[20:47] <orated> maniX_: I was asking if rfkill list detects nothing or there is some output?
[20:47] <maniX_> rmmod output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849115/
[20:48] <maniX_> dont got hta
[20:48] <maniX_> its wrong paste
[20:48] <maniX_> w8
[20:48] <maniX_> rmmod output: ERROR: Module wl does not exist in /proc/modules,    and rfkill list is giving me nothing
[20:48] <orated> ok
[20:49] <orated> Now you can either follow http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php and its intructions or install sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[20:49] <maniX_> but i have just visited b43 page
[20:49] <maniX_> they say that they do not have support for my driver
[20:50] <orated> !
[20:50] <maniX_> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43. ortaed: mine is 4313
[20:52] <orated> Yes, b43 is alternative. I tried to bring you to a state where you can try directly the source or ubuntu repo. As you say, b43 lists your device unsupported. Now, you need to follow the http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[20:52] <orated> Then
[20:54] <orated> maniX_: I found a notice relevant to your device
[20:55] <maniX_> orated: i already told u that i tried that link on my ubuntu. but iit didnt worked there
[20:55] <maniX_> orated: what is it?
[20:55] <orated> *IMPORTANT* If dual-booting Windows and Ubuntu, be sure to enable the card (wireless light is on) in Windows before booting Ubuntu, otherwise it will not work.
[20:55] <maniX_> orated: i already know that. and i always have it checked.
[20:56] <maniX_> cause if it is not on then none of linuxes will detect the hardware. its like window have control to harware switch, but linux has no control
[20:57] <orated> maniX_: If you followed the source, then its strange to me that rfkill is not listing it
[20:57] <maniX_> no i tried that on ubuntu. not kubuntu
[20:57] <maniX_> u want me to try that now on kubuntu too?
[20:58] <orated> maniX_: And you say it worked in neither?
[20:58] <maniX_> hmm
[20:58] <maniX_> if u notice
[20:58] <maniX_> in readme
[20:58] <maniX_> in the end just read what they say at the end for ubuntu
[21:01] <maniX_> orated: in the end it said that ubuntu provided driver: bcmwl-krnel-source is the same as provided by the compiler. The only thing is that i have to compile it before i can install it
[21:01] <maniX_> compiler-> link
[21:03] <maniX_> orated: i guess i have come here with homework done. lol..:D
[21:04] <orated> maniX_: Can you try the source in Kubuntu and check rfkill and jockey-text? I'm quite lost in your case
[21:05] <orated> maniX_: For bluetooth, it should list - hci0: Bluetooth or something like that
[21:05] <maniX_> ok then, i will do everything again for kubuntu. Lets see how it goes. It is possible i might i done something wrong there.
[21:05] <orated> rfkill should^
[21:06] <orated> maniX_: Yes, that is why I brought tried to bring your system to state from where you can re-attempt for source
[21:06] <orated> maniX_: But, I'm sorry I couldn't help
[21:10] <maniX_> orated: man u are the only one who has helped me here
[21:12] <maniX_> orated: i tried lots of irc channel. none were able to help me.
[21:12] <maniX_> orated: everything i did till now was based on what i googled. but as u can see it didnt helped
[21:12] <maniX_> orated: i really appreciate your effort man. So dont appologise. please...!
[21:12] <BluesKaj> ok , back after trials and tribulations with alsa and pulse
[21:13] <BluesKaj> too bad
[21:13] <maniX> orated: man u are the only one who has helped me here
[21:13] <maniX> orated: i tried lots of irc channel. none were able to help me.
[21:13] <maniX> orated: everything i did till now was based on what i googled. but as u can see it didnt helped
[21:13] <maniX> orated: i really appreciate your effort man. So dont appologise. please...!
[21:14] <BluesKaj> ok maniX Broadcom wifi problems ?
[21:14] <maniX> BluesKaj: yups, my wifi is working but not the bluetooth
[21:14] <maniX> or i should say was working
[21:15] <BluesKaj> oh bluetooth ..sorry I have no knowledge there
[21:15] <orated> maniX_: Ah, no problem. You posted that twice! Well, we have BluesKaj here, so do consider his suggestion before trying source installation
[21:16] <maniX> BluesKaj: no problem dude. i have been trying to get to this sad ass problem for more than a week
[21:17] <BluesKaj> orated,  dunno much about bluetooth I'm afraid
[21:18] <orated> maniX: Ah well you can consider source installation, you are welcome to this channel for any such questions. Or you can also try #linux-wireless
[21:19] <maniX> orated: i would rather stay here for now. Felling more welcomed here..:D
[21:20] <orated> BluesKaj: I don't about it completely, just remember fixing my old broadcom ... so was trying to help
[21:20] <orated> don't know*
[21:21] <maniX> # modprobe lib80211 or # modprobe ieee80211_crypt_tkip. which one to choose? ortaed BluesKaj
[21:23] <maniX> orated, BluesKaj: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849179/
[21:25] <maniX> orated: you here?
[21:26] <orated> maniX: Yes, sorry
[21:26] <BluesKaj> manix lsmod . pastebin the output
[21:26] <orated> lib80211  loads without erros
[21:27] <maniX> ok lib80211 it is
[21:27] <orated> maniX: Sec, I'll share with BluesKaj what all links you shared
[21:28] <maniX> orated BlueKaj: better, its pain to do all that again...:)
[21:29] <maniX> orated BlueKaj: do i need to modprobe cfg80211?
[21:29] <edgarman> trying to share connection to a wireless router, but I think when I plug the cable into the computer it disables the connection the computer already had (coming in over USB)... help me out?
[21:31] <maniX> orated BlueKaj: please tell me if need to modprobe cfg80211 or not
[21:33] <orated> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849115/ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849102/ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849069/ I don't have your lsmod now here maniX. Consider BluesKaj command, I might have missed some.
[21:34] <maniX> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849192/
[21:34] <maniX> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849192/: here orated BluesKaj
[21:34] <BluesKaj> modprobe without errors usually means the module is accepted , but it may not work
[21:35] <orated> lib80211_crypt_tkip
[21:35] <orated> present
[21:36] <maniX> orated BluesKaj, so what m i supposed to do now?
[21:37] <maniX> do i modprobe lib80211  or # modprobe ieee80211_crypt_tkip or modprobe cfg80211 orated blueskaj
[21:38] <orated> maniX: 'sudo modprobe wl' then  'ls /lib/firmware' ... you said you tried source installation before. You need to check what will work, what not
[21:38] <BluesKaj> maniX,  try both , comment one before trying the other . /etc/modules
[21:38] <orated> dmesg | grep -e wl -ie firmware -e wlan -ie radio
[21:39] <orated> and then
[21:39] <orated> yes^
[21:39] <Guest40146> hello
[21:39] <orated> BluesKaj: He is trying source installation from http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php follwing http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[21:40] <Guest40146> plz help me
[21:41] <Levin91e> plz?
[21:42] <Riddell> !ask
[21:43] <Levin91e> Mode Levin91e +i by Levin91e
[21:43] <Levin91e> Mode Levin91e -i by Levin91e
[21:43] <Levin91e> Anybody know what the above messages mean?
[21:44] <Sentynel> Levin91e: +i is invisible mode; people can't tell what channels you're in unless they're in them too
[21:45] <Sentynel> it's recommended and the default mode on freenode
[21:46] <Levin91e> Ok so then -i would be visible mode?
[21:48] <Levin91e> Sorry for the newb questions and thanks for the help.
[21:55] <maniX> oratde: do you want me to pastebin dmesg | grep -e wl -ie firmware -e wlan -ie radio?
[21:55] <maniX> oreated: do you want me to pastebin dmesg | grep -e wl -ie firmware -e wlan -ie radio?
[21:55] <maniX> orated do you want me to pastebin dmesg | grep -e wl -ie firmware -e wlan -ie radio?
[21:57] <orated> !tab | maniX
[21:58] <orated> maniX: Please don't repeat like that. I meant to use that as reference to find patterns/name forwl in dmesg
[21:59] <maniX> orated: sorry abt that. wont happen again.
[22:04] <orated> maniX: Np. The instructions are quite easy to follow in the link as stated above... Ping if you need help, I'll try
[22:12] <maniX_> orated: rebooted... lets see whats the result
[22:14] <elguavas> can anyone comment on the stability of the ppa 4.8 version? i'd like the newest digikam so i'd need to install 4.8...
[22:19] <BluesKaj> elguavas,  quite stable IMO , been using it for 2 weeks or so
[22:21] <BluesKaj> BBL
[22:21] <maniX_> BluesKaj orated : do i need to use monitor mode?(line 285 - Readme.txt)
[22:21] <elguavas> BluesKaj:  ok, good to hear. i checked bugs and couldn't find anything much so i was wondering if the 4.8 packages were being very widely used. i guess i'll give it a go. 4.74 has been very stable for me so i'd hate to upset the apple cart.
[22:22] <maniX_> BluesKaj orated : and the problem is still the same,  rfkill list shows only wireless LAN and nothing of bluetooth
[22:23] <maniX_> BluesKaj orated : though wifi is working totally fine this time
[22:23] <elguavas> ...anyone else using the ppa 4.8 packages? if so, are they stable for you?
[22:24] <Sentynel> elguavas: I'm using them since they were released; no issues
[22:24] <maniX_> BluesKaj: orated : guys u there?
[22:25] <elguavas> Sentynel: cool, 2 good reports. :) guess i'll install away then. ;)
[22:32] <orated> maniX_: Yes, still no mention of bluetooth in rfkill list? Then please pastebin your lspci -v (network part) and lsmod again and what does jockey-kde say for your card?
[22:33] <maniX_> orated: yeah, no mention again
[22:33] <maniX_> orated: wait let me switch back to my computer
[22:36] <rosco_y> How can I rotate my flat-panel monitor (I'm using ubuntu 11.4)
[22:36] <rosco_y> Also, using NVIDIA
[22:36] <rosco_y> and the proprietary drivers
[22:37] <rosco_y> I don't need the gaming capabilities of my card, I would like to be able to rotate my monitor though
[22:38] <maniX>   
[22:38] <rosco_y> I have been able to rotate my monitor in the past, but in this time around (this installation) it's not letting me.
[22:42] <Ezim> rosco_y, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1429076
[22:43] <maniX__> orated: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849282/
[22:43] <Ezim> rosco_y, http://www.johannes-eva.net/ubuntu-linux-external-monitor-nvidia-rotate
[22:43] <Ezim> rosco_y, http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/05/ubuntu-enable-rotation-nvidia/
[22:47] <maniX__> orated: and the jockey-kde say that broadcom STA driver is activated and is currently in use
[22:55] <maniX__> orated: man u there?
[22:56] <maniX__> orated: i guess u are out... sad...:(
[22:58] <rosco_y> I used these instructions to try to rotate my monitor.  http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/05/ubuntu-enable-rotation-nvidia/
[22:59] <rosco_y> It worked to a fashion: xrandr -0 left rotated my monitor, but it rotated both of them.  This doesn't work for me because one of my monitors doesn't physically rotate.
[22:59] <rosco_y> Does anyone know how to specify which monitor xrandr rotates, or is this problem due to the fact that I'm using TwinView?
[23:02] <rosco_y> I think it is due to the TwinView setup--Thanks in any case :)
[23:11] <Daughain> Can anyone help me with so e death edits?
[23:12] <Daughain> Street.....Fstab.
[23:13] <Daughain> Some days I hate auto correct.
[23:13] <Ezim> Daughain, whats your problem?
[23:14] <Daughain> It seems my external drive doesn't want to mount properly.
[23:14] <Ezim> Daughain, have you sudo fdisk -l
[23:15] <Daughain> Not yet, but I have udisks --show-info
[23:16] <Daughain> Video reads it at /dev/sdb1, as usual.
[23:16] <Daughain> Fdisk even
[23:18] <Ezim> Daughain, output of this: sudo mount -a
[23:19] <Daughain> Errrrrr....No output.
[23:19] <Ezim> Daughain, it should mount manually
[23:20] <Daughain> I know it is supposed to auto-mount, but it doesn't mount properly.
[23:22] <Ezim> Daughain, look up information in fdisk and fstab
[23:22] <Ezim> maybe you manually need to edit things in fstab
[23:23] <Daughain> I kinda expected that, and my initial edit made some positive changes, and apparently mounting it manually sorta worked, I still can't access it, just have it mounted now.
[23:29] <Daughain> What edit do I make to have the volume month on the de
[23:29] <Daughain> Dammit. Mount in a workspace?
[23:36] <Daughain> So much for that.
[23:39] <Daughain> Ezim: Any further help?
[23:40] <Daughain> ,
[23:40] <Ezim> Daughain, is it usb-hdd?
[23:40] <Daughain> Yes.
[23:41] <Daughain> Ezim: Currently I have it showing In Places list, but that's it. Still can't read it.
[23:42] <Ezim> Daughain, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[23:42] <Ezim> Daughain, you have read/write-permission not enabled
[23:43] <Daughain> Ezim: it should be enabled, but I'm not sure. Haven't done an fstab edit in years.
[23:44] <Ezim> Daughain, you do not need it
[23:44] <Ezim> Daughain, do you know the mount point of it?
[23:45] <Daughain> Ezim: When I started all this, the damn thing was auto-mounting at /, and nothing could be done with it.
[23:46] <Ezim> Daughain, have you installed kubuntu/root on your external hdd?
[23:46] <Daughain> Now, I at least have it showing in the Places list. It still says the daemon is inhibited.
[23:46] <Ezim> Daughain, can you give me the mountpoint for your external hdd?
[23:47] <Daughain> Give me a min,
[23:49] <Daughain> Ezim: According to gparted it's mounted at /dev/sdc1
[23:50] <Ezim> Daughain, good: sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /dev/sdc1
[23:50] <Ezim> Daughain, change yourusername to :) the user name you have for your installation
[23:51] <Daughain> Ezim: That much I k ow. :-P Anyway, this is not in my system.
[23:52] <Ezim> Daughain, that should make it work
[23:52] <Ezim> read/write
[23:53] <Daughain> Not according to show-info.
[23:53] <Ezim> sudo chown -R username:username /path/to/mounted/drive
[23:53] <Daughain> Still does nothing
[23:54] <Ezim> Daughain, external hdd in ntfs format?
[23:54] <Daughain> Drive doesn't show as mounted using udisks --show-info. Has never shown  as mounted no matter what other lookup method says.
[23:55] <Daughain> Ezim: yes, ntfs external drive
[23:57] <Ezim> Daughain, you can see external hdd in dolphin
[23:57] <Ezim> ?
[23:59] <Daughain> Now it flat refuses to mount, according to the error message. Though according to dolphin it is there