[00:00] but i cant tell the difference on my setup because the launcher in high transparency :D [00:00] ah [00:02] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24436243/Screenshot%20at%202012-02-19%2002%3A00%3A42.png [00:02] this is my desktop [00:02] :D [00:03] That is not the default Launcher size, is it? [00:03] but on screenshot the launcher looks blur instead of transparent that it is for real [00:03] no this is 32px [00:03] this is the smallest one [00:05] with faenza icons? [00:05] Anything bigger in this resolution is not ergonomic [00:05] yeap [00:05] :) [00:05] i love Faenza [00:05] its the BEST :d [00:05] r u using a ppa? [00:05] yes [00:05] the official one [00:05] can you provide the ppa link [00:05] wait [00:05] i'd like to use it as well [00:05] ty [00:05] ok [00:05] sec [00:06] here you are https://launchpad.net/~tiheum/+archive/equinox [00:07] its not the ppa its the link to ppa [00:07] :) [00:07] thnx [00:07] Unfortunately, I can't seem to make the launcher/Dash color to fit Ambiance. [00:07] and u change them using gnome-tweak-tool? [00:07] just remember you have to use faenza-ambiance or radiance [00:07] not the normal faenza [00:07] ok [00:07] but how do you change icons for unity? [00:07] because you gonna have problem with the battery icon and some more [00:08] you need the gnome tweak tool [00:08] ah ok [00:09] krnekhelesh: sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool [00:09] once installed type advanced in the dash [00:09] its the one called advanced settings [00:09] :) [00:10] ok [00:14] ok, first try with precise - live usb boot failed :> [00:15] ironhalik, give more information [00:16] the cursos blink really fast :> [00:16] but I used dd to make the usb drive, so it may be that :> [00:18] Btw look http://qa.ubuntu.com/ [00:18] And fill your report :) [00:18] couple of times I used the ubuntu startup dist tool, it always filed to install, right after it formatted my drive :) [00:19] ironhalik, be lazy and use grub loop :). [00:19] grub loopback * [00:19] hmm, how do I do that? :) [00:20] Ill confess, I used the grub CLI only once, I somehow crashed my grub.cfg :> [00:22] ironhalik, like this: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html#comment-141653217 [00:23] hmm, cool [00:23] good to know, thx [00:25] ok, precise live wont see my drives :) [00:26] that is, theyre not in /dev/ [00:28] ironhalik: What type? [00:28] ext4 [00:28] normal SATA? [00:28] yeah [00:28] the installer mounted them, then hanged itself :> [00:28] do they show up in /proc/partitions [00:29] yup, they do [00:30] good [00:30] do they show up in /dev/dsk-by-id ? [00:30] only the swap partition [00:30] sorry, /dev/disk/by-id [00:30] ah, sec I rebooted [00:32] yeah [00:32] ironhalik: Can you pastebin your /proc/partitions ? [00:33] http://paste.ubuntu/com/847917/ [00:33] ironhalik, be laizy! install pastebinit and then use command: pastebinit /proc/.. [00:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/847917/ [00:33] Im not that lazy :P [00:34] ironhalik: That looks kind of OK (sda2 is a bit odd) [00:34] huh, there should be no sda2 [00:34] ironhalik: Can you pastebin the output of udisks --dump ? [00:34] (and pastebinit really would help there) [00:36] udisks --dump | pastebinit [00:37] sec, im fighting against the tide here [00:37] everything crashesh :P [00:37] goodnight from me guys =) [00:37] poor ironhalik ;/ [00:37] ;p [00:37] goodnight... [00:37] c ya [00:38] damn... i just pressed tab after goodn ... [00:39] huh, theres some issues with dns it seems :) [00:40] for pastebinit [00:40] took me a couple of goes to resolve when I opened it [00:41] any idea why zietgeist would be taking up ~60% of my ram on a 4gb box [00:41] cjohnston, maybe zeitgeist ... i don't know zietgeist [00:41] sure [00:42] penguin42: http://paste.ubuntu.com/847925/ [00:42] zeitgeist-fts [00:43] is it safe to kill zeitgeist-fts? [00:43] zeitgeist-daemon - D-Bus interface providing a log of activities [00:43] ironhalik: Odd, that looks happy [00:44] well, I mouted the drive by uuid now [00:44] oh... using UUID is safer vay to dd something :) [00:44] can I use /dev/disk/by-uuid/yadayda as dd source? [00:44] uh [00:44] :> [00:45] ironhalik: Yeh [00:45] how can I list all mounted drives? [00:45] mount [00:45] doh... [00:45] df .... [00:46] yeah, figured that one by myself :> [00:46] -h is an useful switch for it [00:48] hmm, ok since sda1 is not mounted [00:48] it has no uuid, so does sda [00:48] and I want to dd whole sda [00:48] any id will do for that? [00:49] ironhalik, you booted from grub? [00:49] no, from live usb [00:49] ok :) [00:49] btw. Use nautilus for hard drive mounting :) [00:50] I shouldnt mount it if Im dd'ing it [00:50] ok.. maybe it isn't sda anymore... [00:51] well, it is, according to udisks [00:51] ah what the hell, ill try to dd it by path :) [00:53] but either way, Ive got bad feelings about this :) [01:15] Odd. I have appmenu-qt package installed but Clementine display its menu in the window [01:25] and I can't think of any other qt app to test it [01:25] Well, any other qt app that won't drag the entire KDE with it [04:46] Is there a screencast app that is working on precise? [04:47] txwikinger2: you can try kazam [04:49] txwikinger2: is gtk-recordmydesktop not working? === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [04:50] txwikinger: gtk-recordmydesktop works for me too [04:51] I use kde.. thought gtk-recordmydesktop was only for gnome [04:51] I will try both [04:51] or well, you can use vlc. [04:52] http://www.2buntu.com/2011/10/01/how-to-record-your-desktop-with-vlc/ [04:55] Thanks will try it [04:55] Did not find kazzam in the packages === Kevin`_ is now known as Kevin` [06:25] theres always an errant pulseaudio process that kills my audio [06:25] why, and how can i stop it [07:46] does 12.04 have any known network issues? [07:47] vega-, checked launchpad for bugs related to same? [07:47] i'm connected through wired ethernet and sometimes the connection just switches off (have to reload browser 10 times to display a webpage etc.) [07:47] the same with command line "host" command for instance, it might work only after the 5th or 10th time or so :) [07:47] bazhang: not yet [08:15] hi [08:15] how to upgrade from oneric to precise [08:17] To upgrade from Ubuntu 11.10 on a desktop system: press Alt+F2 and type in "update-manager -d" (without the quotes) into the command box. [08:17] will taht remove all my insatlled apps? [08:17] that* [08:19] sahil_, remove? no. that will get you started on the alpha 2 [08:20] okey..so my installed apps will remain intact right? [08:20] well apart from the PPA [08:21] they will be disabled [08:21] sounds good [08:21] and how is ati radon drver support for precise.. [08:22] will it revert back to gallium 3d or vesa or catalyst? [08:23] sahil_, I dont use ati, so I cannot answer that sorry [08:24] thnx.... [08:24] sahil_, you can wait in here and discuss when more people are active re: the ati situation [08:25] the ppa's u mentioned will be removed or just disabled? [08:25] ok surely...m online for an hour or two [08:44] apt-get doesn't want to upgrade packages - why? [08:45] *these packages are held back* === derbysieger is now known as iceroot [08:47] codepal: when you do sudo apt-get install , it will show you. [08:50] how? = doesn't show me anything [08:50] except 63 not upgraded [08:50] no error, no reason - no excuse! [08:51] darn it I want to force upgrade [08:51] where is that Nike key - JUST DO IT! [08:52] codepal: Might need `sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade`. [08:52] err [08:52] codepal: if packages are being held back the last thing you want to do is force it [08:52] scratch 'install' from that. [08:52] well, this is a testing partition [08:52] so I can nuke it if I want to, can't I? [08:52] try dist-upgrade [08:53] ok thanks pangolin !! [08:53] thank astraljava :) [08:53] looks like progress, great astraljava [08:53] which dist is this gonna be now? [08:54] Alpha 3? [08:54] Hi there pangolin :) You good? [08:54] astraljava: i'm doing ok thanks. [08:54] Good, good. [08:55] codepal: I don't think dist-upgrade has time travel support yet [08:55] there is talk about adding that to linux kernel 4.0 [08:55] There is no Alpha-3, jump to Beta-1 after Alpha-2. [08:56] pangolin, -- I like your sense of humor [08:56] Hehe. [08:56] Beta-1 - woot! [08:56] here I come future! Beam me up Scotty! [08:56] But that's in March, not yet. [08:56] I haven't even done a Unity-Checkbox test yet... I'm too lazy [08:57] er busy [09:27] how is fgrlx 12.1 in precise [09:27] buggy or better den gallium 3d [09:28] m talking about desktop experence ...not games === popey_ is now known as popey [10:45] o/ [10:46] Is it intended that the launcher doesn't hide when a window is maximized? [10:49] That doesn't feel right. [10:49] mainerror: dodge has or is going to be removed so the choice is on or auto hide [10:50] o-O [10:51] So, no intellihide anymore? [10:52] mainerror: no I think that was dodge [10:54] Oh god ... [10:55] I've been an Unity fan since it was introduced but the removal of that feature might drive me away from it. [10:56] It is absolutely absurd to hide the launcher when there is no window at all. I mean when you are on the desktop. [10:56] Is there a bug report for this already? [10:58] I hear it was removed because it is confusing ro users (i.e. thinking they must move windows away to get it to show) [10:58] Anyone can confirm don't getting any effect when hovering on close, max, min buttons in metacity ? [10:58] mainerror: If you are talking about dodge, yes there is bug somewhere in launchpad, gonna try to find for you [11:01] That was the wrong way to tackle such a problem. There will be even more users confused about how to interact with their system in the first place. [11:01] mainerror: would you mind https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/936091 pressing "affects me" ? Because I am sure you get the same problem [11:01] Launchpad bug 936091 in metacity (Ubuntu) "hovering on close, minimize, maximize has no effect" [Undecided,New] [11:02] glosoli: What is the expected result? [11:03] mainerror: open nautilus, try to hover on close, max, min you should get some light changes, but you don't [11:03] it works in unity, so try to maximize windows ant in global menu panel, hover on max min close, you will get effect [11:03] I do. [11:03] mainerror: On not maximized windows ? [11:03] Yes. [11:04] strange, the problem occurs for me and some my friends hmm [11:04] You mean a color highlight of the buttons right? [11:05] mainerror: Yes, but not for maximized windows, for small ones [11:05] Yup. [11:05] Strange.. anyway, your problem with dodge: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/930148 [11:05] Launchpad bug 930148 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dodge windows is down but what about making the launcher autohide only on maximised apps ?" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [11:07] Ah, thanks. :) [11:08] Just got this one as well. [11:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libx11/+bug/924612 [11:08] Launchpad bug 924612 in libx11 (Ubuntu) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGABRT in __GI___assert_fail()" [Medium,Confirmed] [11:09] mainerror: when was the last time you did upgrade/dist-upgrade ? [11:09] Maybe for me problem occured after updates :? [11:09] Mhmm, last night I guess. [11:11] ah ok :) anyway, do you get any "Privacy" Section in system settings ? [11:14] Yup. [11:14] hmm, I don't :/ [11:30] hi, any devs here that can tell me why everytime i update over the last 2 months it breaks the unity bar settings? starting to wind me up, do people not test these things? === ripps_ is now known as ripps [11:36] wonderman: people do test these things, it's in development, so fixes are done in priority order [11:36] wonderman: if you don't want/expect things to break use a stable release. [11:37] sorry ikonia i am talking about 11.10, nobody seems to know what they are talking about in #ubuntu, ie no devs tehre [11:37] wonderman: talking to developers doesn't get things fixed directly, [11:37] the worse thing about unity is the bar autohiding, so i use CCSM to set it not to [11:37] but maybe they will have more of an idea [11:38] wonderman: 1.) ask in #ubuntu if need help, this is for 12.04 support 2.) log a bug with the best information possible if you believe there is an error in the software [11:38] well i waited to update packages for a month, because the last time i did it broke the same thing [11:38] and i waited for 2 days to get some reply before, and got nothing in #ubuntu [11:38] wonderman: however as I've never seen anyone complain about this before, I'd suggest (note the word suggest) this is a problem with your setup, rather than the actual software or more people would be complaining [11:38] i think reinstalling catalyst might of been my fix before [11:39] but i cant do this everytime i update a packge.... [11:39] wonderman: the fact that you've got no reply in #ubuntu suggests it's a problem with your setup, or people would be saying "me too" or "it's a known problem, here is the bug id" [11:39] but its not uncommon software... [11:39] wonderman: if the catalyst re-install is fixing it, then it would again suggest the problem is with catalyst drivers and your setup, in which case contacting ATI would be a good move [11:39] or maybe most people like autohiding unity bar [11:39] wonderman: Please do 'ubuntu-bug unity' and report this in launchpad. Then developers are able to look at the problem and can assess wheter it's a bug or a problem with your setup. [11:39] i think it blows [11:40] wonderman: most people don't seem to do auto hiding [11:40] ikonia: , its the default setting? [11:40] either way, it's not for this channel, please take it to #ubuntu or follow the process I've suggested [11:40] lol [11:40] ill wait till ive got many hours to wait for a reply [11:41] i shouldnt be fearful of upgrading packages [11:41] wonderman: I've just given you the reply and suggestions forward, please don't use this channel for 11.10 support again. [11:41] especially when my setup is pretty basic [11:41] most people have ATI or nvidia GPUs [11:41] wonderman: complaining about it won't fix it [11:41] wonderman: please stop using this channel for 11.10 support discussion [11:41] wonderman: does bug 888039 sound related? If yes, there are packages in oneiric-proposed, see the last comment on that bug. All other questions should go to #ubuntu. [11:42] Launchpad bug 888039 in unity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Gradual degradation in desktop performance." [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/888039 [11:42] nothing like it lol [11:42] please take this to #ubuntu Ampelbein / wonderman if you want to progress it [11:43] ikonia: I know. Please read the last sentence of my last comment. [11:43] glosoli: Added a comment to the Dodge window option bug. [11:57] mainerror: I am curious if they read all thoose comments ;D [11:58] They sure do. [12:06] whats better to install PrecisePangolin alpha 2 or the daily builds? [12:08] if you want it to work [12:11] hmm have no idea, i installed daily [12:11] works fine :) [12:11] As there was feature freeze maybe daily might be even stable :? [12:12] definition freeze, now they need to work them out ;> [12:13] ah no, sorry [12:13] wrong side of the table :) [12:15] glosoli: thanks [12:16] glosoli: If I want to file a but report would it be best to see if PrecisePangolin has the bug and file it for PrecisePangolin instead of oneiric [12:17] I mean the devs wont care about oneric as much anymore u would think.. [12:19] sabgenton: Oneiric's support ends 04-2013, so you could do both [12:19] if its critical bug, theyll try to fix it in oneiric too [12:20] hmm ok [12:20] still I won't care so much if it works in PrecisePangolin :) [12:22] there probably already is a bugreport, so you can just confirm it ;> [12:36] sabgenton: Generally it depends on what bug you want to report. [12:36] If something crashed on Oneiric, then report it against Oneiric. [12:42] hmm, how long shout updating oneiric to precise take? [12:42] im stuck on updating repositories for last 5 minutes [12:42] oh ffs, a dialog box got hidden on another workspace :) [12:53] sabgenton: if you want to file a bug you do in terminal: ubuntu-bug package_name and then you will go trough some steps and the bug will be filled :) [13:47] can I log into launchpad with openID? [13:56] no lp is only an openid provide no consumer [13:57] o has that changed? haven't checked in month [13:58] nah, it provides openid [15:01] anyone got imon ffdc working on precise? can't get any output to come to anywhere, ir-keytable or syslog. [15:26] can I set the default action for my power button? [15:26] to suspend instead of the dialog box [15:33] ironhalik: in the power-settings there should be an option for that [15:34] ironhalik: i have disabled the powermanager (because of an ugly bug) but imo there was an option for that [15:34] hi, this morning i installed the proposed updates on xubuntu 12.04 x86_64 and the theme changed after the suggested reboot [15:53] iceroot: actually, Ive only time to suspend there, and whether to show the battery applet. [15:54] but Ive found the option via dconf-editor [16:16] Who is ikonia? [16:21] * penguin42 seems to be getting a lot of flash crashes today - not had any for *ages* - I wonder what got updated [16:24] me 2 [16:24] didn't have any problems for years up until a couple month ago [16:25] its a plot to push html5 forward ;> [16:25] windows 8 will have flash disable in the default mode, linux users will have flash crashing constantly ;> [16:26] flash can go die in a fire, to be honest ;-) [16:26] Ampelbein: I don't disagree [16:27] hmm, html5 video could use some work for me [16:27] never thought I will say it, but flash video works better for me :P [16:28] HTML5 YouTube player works wonders for me. Too bad I can't use it to watch everything there. [16:29] gnash also works on youtube, but not much more :( [16:31] hmm, lately I visited some quite popular tech news site [16:32] got surprised that they used html5 video player by default [16:34] Nevertheless, I wish I can cease to use Flash someday. [16:35] hmm, it seems it wont be long now :) [16:36] I dont have flash on my android phone [16:36] and theres lots of ipads there that generate flashless consumer traffic [16:36] ironhalik: http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html - Adobe stops all mobile development. [16:37] I use it pretty much to watch online cat videos and get raped by some runaway ads [16:37] yeah Ampelbein, it was funny when I saw it on slashdot :) [16:38] http://occupyflash.org/ [16:59] Hi guys...can i have someones kind attention? [16:59] Ask your question right away and stay around a few minutes to see if anyone can help you. [17:01] sahil_: please don't cross-post your question [17:03] i upgraded to precise a couple of minutes ago...the whole desktop is crashing every now and den....copiz is crashing and windows are been drawn very slowly ... [17:03] compiz* [17:03] sahil_: what have you done to debug this ? [17:04] done nothing as of now...coz if i even move a window...it takes 5-6 seconds for the flickering to stop [17:04] sahil_: ok, I suggest doing some basic debugging [17:04] sahil_: then once you've narrowed it down a bit, ask for specific help [17:05] okey...from where shall i start? [17:05] sahil_: I would start with video drivers [17:06] and you can do this via tty, so it shouldnt be that bad [17:06] okey...will give a try... [17:07] sahil_: the tool ubuntu uses to fetch additional drivers is called jockey - you can use the CLI version, jockey-text [17:08] ok.. :) [17:11] shame you cant upgrade 32bit->64bit [17:15] hmm, is there a way to edit/add the dash right-click menu? [17:17] http://pastebin.com/PFnCYH6A [17:17] this is my x.org log [17:17] file [17:18] you could try running htop to see if there's a cpu-intesive process [17:19] bjsnider_ are u saying me? [17:19] yes [17:19] well i m running just firefox and xchat...nthing else [17:19] yeah, check if Xorg doesnt hog the CPU [17:20] how to do that...sory m very noob at debuging [17:20] in terminal, type 'top' [17:20] the log says every video driver except the basic rame buffer fails to load because it doesn't exist [17:21] make sure you've got xserver-xorg-video-radeon installed [17:22] Yeey updating to Precise [17:22] lets see what it gives :) [17:23] dupondje: for me it went more or less flawlessly [17:23] http://pastebin.com/bdDjnHRR [17:23] ya the gfx may b the problem...even in oneric i had a couple of issues [17:24] sahil_, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon [17:24] this is propietory catalyst 12.1 or gallium 0.4? [17:25] gallium [17:25] Are there some improvements for Dual VGA's in Precise [17:25] the problem is you're not using the appropriate xorg driver [17:25] aka Nvidia Optimus [17:25] system info says i have Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300) insatlled [17:25] dupondje, no, but thanks for asking [17:25] installed* [17:26] bjsnider: nothing planned or so ? :( [17:26] cause that would be a nice improvement :) [17:26] dupondje, you have to disable the optimus switching system in your bios/efi [17:27] bjsnider: I have no option to do that in BIOS [17:27] some laptops do and some don't [17:27] it's just unfortunate [17:27] i have insatlled...now shall i restart or wat? and something oneconf is also crahing...m not sure wats dat [17:28] restart [17:28] crashing* [17:28] ok [17:28] bjsnider: well ironhide is usefull .. just needs better integration [17:29] the ati driver is actually better for most things except high-end gaming at this point when compared to fglrx [17:31] Hi. I'm on the daily build of 12.04, using two screens. That results in 2 unity bars; is there any way to disable the second unity bar? [17:31] no improvemennt... :( [17:31] what does your xorg log say now? [17:32] one min [17:32] 'E:Couldn't configure pre-depend libtinfo5 for libncurses5, probably [17:32] err :P [17:33] hi guys :) [17:33] http://pastebin.com/8SmuFJCt hre is it [17:33] is there any way to create a wifi network that an android device sees? [17:34]