| seiflotfy | hey guys | 18:54 |
|---|---|---|
| elacheche_anis | hey seiflotfy :) | 19:24 |
| seiflotfy | ashams: my love | 19:34 |
| seiflotfy | :D | 19:34 |
| ashams | seiflotfy, hey sweat heart :P | 19:35 |
| ashams | :D | 19:35 |
| seiflotfy | how r u | 19:35 |
| ashams | are you in egypt so far? | 19:35 |
| ashams | fine ya basha | 19:35 |
| ashams | u? | 19:35 |
| seiflotfy | i am in germany | 19:35 |
| seiflotfy | hzacking | 19:35 |
| seiflotfy | i am fine | 19:35 |
| ashams | cool | 19:35 |
| seiflotfy | kinda adpoted a new developer teaching him how to actually hack zeitggeist | 19:35 |
| seiflotfy | he is very promising | 19:35 |
| ashams | woooooohoooo | 19:35 |
| ashams | that would be cool | 19:36 |
| ashams | are u mentoring him on a ML? | 19:36 |
| ashams | can you ask him/her if I can get it then put into some doc or intro to developing into zg? | 19:37 |
| seiflotfy | no i am mentoring him on irc | 19:37 |
| seiflotfy | giving him small tasks | 19:37 |
| seiflotfy | he has however good knowledge of c++ and c | 19:38 |
| seiflotfy | which makes my life easy | 19:38 |
| seiflotfy | but yeah | 19:38 |
| seiflotfy | sounds like a good idea | 19:38 |
| seiflotfy | maybe he can start a blog | 19:38 |
| seiflotfy | :D | 19:38 |
| ashams | cool dude | 19:38 |
| ashams | finally I can help :D | 19:38 |
| seiflotfy | Boy asks, "Granny, have you seen my pills, they're marked LSD". Granny replies, "F*ck the pills, have u seen the dragon in the kitchen?!" | 19:39 |
| ashams | hahaha | 19:40 |
| ashams | dude, do you still want to make that conference fossdAm or fosscon? | 19:41 |
| ashams | we can make a use of it to start an ngo | 19:41 |
| ashams | woohoo 2 helghareeb helghareeb_ cool :D | 19:41 |
| elacheche_anis | ashams & seiflotfy I was thinking that we are the only team that we have lovers XD but I think that you have lovers too :p :p XD | 19:43 |
| seiflotfy | ashams: why do we need an ngo | 19:44 |
| seiflotfy | ? | 19:44 |
| ashams | elacheche_anis, coll sweetie :P | 19:44 |
| ashams | seiflotfy, it's hard to collect donations | 19:44 |
| ashams | we're not legal entity | 19:44 |
| seiflotfy | ashams: uhm u dont want donations | 19:44 |
| seiflotfy | u want events that get payed for you | 19:44 |
| seiflotfy | :D | 19:44 |
| ashams | exactly | 19:44 |
| ashams | that's what I was thinking about | 19:45 |
| seiflotfy | so no neeed for ngo | 19:45 |
| seiflotfy | if we do fosdam we dont need to be an entity | 19:45 |
| ashams | seiflotfy, no, dude we need donations | 19:45 |
| seiflotfy | we get in contact with a uni who will donate us space | 19:45 |
| seiflotfy | donate us space | 19:45 |
| ashams | so what about cds | 19:46 |
| ashams | stickers | 19:46 |
| ashams | t-shirts | 19:46 |
| seiflotfy | this is ubuntu related | 19:46 |
| seiflotfy | not fosdam | 19:46 |
| ashams | aha | 19:46 |
| ashams | that what I was asking about | 19:46 |
| ashams | is ubuntu related to fossdam | 19:46 |
| seiflotfy | i dont think there are any ubuntu ngos | 19:46 |
| ashams | but clearly not | 19:46 |
| ashams | yes, there's none | 19:47 |
| seiflotfy | fosdam (one s) | 19:47 |
| seiflotfy | fosdam should allow all open source | 19:47 |
| seiflotfy | and not only encourage ubuntu | 19:47 |
| seiflotfy | so we want mozilla ppl | 19:47 |
| seiflotfy | we want gnome ppl | 19:47 |
| seiflotfy | kde | 19:47 |
| seiflotfy | not only ubuntu related stuff | 19:47 |
| ashams | yes, and that ngo not necessarily ubuntu | 19:47 |
| ashams | maybe a branch of FSF | 19:48 |
| ashams | for egypt | 19:48 |
| ashams | not only for ubuntu ofcourse | 19:48 |
| seiflotfy | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm fsf and osi not the same thing | 19:48 |
| seiflotfy | imho opinion no need for an ngo | 19:48 |
| seiflotfy | what will we do with the money | 19:49 |
| seiflotfy | get ubutu-shirts | 19:49 |
| seiflotfy | not the ngos repsonsibility | 19:49 |
| seiflotfy | the ngo could donate to ubuntu-eg | 19:49 |
| ashams | no, it's illegal | 19:49 |
| ashams | self-fund or no money | 19:49 |
| ashams | and self-fund is scarse | 19:50 |
| ashams | scarce | 19:50 |
| seiflotfy | an egyptian ngo cant donate to ubuntu-eg | 19:50 |
| seiflotfy | ? | 19:50 |
| ashams | not enough money | 19:50 |
| ashams | yes, it can't | 19:50 |
| seiflotfy | wtf | 19:50 |
| seiflotfy | who came up with this rule | 19:50 |
| seiflotfy | ? | 19:50 |
| ashams | we have no identity at all | 19:50 |
| ashams | it's illegal dude | 19:50 |
| ashams | I hate egyptian law | 19:50 |
| seiflotfy | ashams: yeah but it could donate the shirt | 19:51 |
| seiflotfy | as in print the shirts and send the mto ppl who request it | 19:51 |
| ashams | they usually print their logo biger than ubuntu-eg's | 19:51 |
| ashams | bigger* | 19:51 |
| ashams | on the same shirt | 19:52 |
| ashams | :) | 19:52 |
| seiflotfy | yeah i can take care of that | 19:52 |
| seiflotfy | :D | 19:52 |
| ashams | so, the idea is to make some hub to collect funds to help all FL/OSS movements in egypt | 19:53 |
| ashams | :-) | 19:53 |
| seiflotfy | having floss movement depend on funds at an early stage is dangerous | 19:54 |
| seiflotfy | first we need better functioning communities and deployments | 19:54 |
| seiflotfy | then we get money to try to maintain the deployments | 19:54 |
| ashams | we almost have this in ubuntu eg | 19:54 |
| ashams | right | 19:55 |
| seiflotfy | getting money to expand is dangeoures in the sense that it makes expansion dependant on funds | 19:55 |
| seiflotfy | which shouldnt be | 19:55 |
| seiflotfy | this would lead the equation of no funds == no expansion | 19:55 |
| seiflotfy | first thign we need is to teach ppl to use irc | 19:56 |
| seiflotfy | :D | 19:56 |
| ashams | haha :D | 19:56 |
| seiflotfy | but having a central hub for FOSS in egypt does make sense though | 19:56 |
| ashams | why so? | 19:56 |
| seiflotfy | such an entity can represent at confernces | 19:57 |
| ashams | man, finance is our only problem | 19:57 |
| ashams | how you think we can fix it? | 19:57 |
| seiflotfy | be part of ubuntu and gnome | 19:58 |
| seiflotfy | this will fix it for you | 19:58 |
| ashams | we are already | 19:58 |
| seiflotfy | as part of ubutnu and gnome i get my shirts and shit payed for | 19:58 |
| seiflotfy | but yes i agree | 19:58 |
| seiflotfy | u r right | 19:58 |
| seiflotfy | an entitiy is a good idea | 19:58 |
| seiflotfy | as long as it sperates itself from ubuntu-eg and others in terms of interest | 19:59 |
| ashams | the step-council is about to launch the new structure, so it seemed that ubutnu-eg have reached some good status to get funds | 19:59 |
| seiflotfy | and work on the local education on open source | 19:59 |
| ashams | yeah | 19:59 |
| ashams | that's it | 19:59 |
| ashams | ppl graduate form schools with no thing | 19:59 |
| seiflotfy | if you guys want shirt tell me how much it will cose | 19:59 |
| ashams | lamers | 19:59 |
| seiflotfy | cost | 19:59 |
| seiflotfy | i will look into getting canonical pay them for you guys | 19:59 |
| ashams | seriously? | 20:00 |
| ashams | that would be cool | 20:00 |
| ashams | but, I think we need to focus on an ngo more | 20:00 |
| ashams | to fix it forever | 20:00 |
| seiflotfy | ashams: it wont fix it forever | 20:01 |
| seiflotfy | right now u want money for ubuntu-shirts and ubutnu-eg related thing | 20:01 |
| seiflotfy | then lets get ubuntu to sponsor it for us | 20:02 |
| ashams | aha | 20:02 |
| seiflotfy | ashams: the entity itself will not represent ubuntu-eg | 20:02 |
| seiflotfy | entity being the ngo | 20:03 |
| ashams | and about future....? we'll need more soon, ppl join everyday and we'll ned more and more | 20:03 |
| ashams | need* | 20:03 |
| ashams | it's continuous work | 20:03 |
| seiflotfy | ashams: getting shirts is not really something we need to be concerned of | 20:03 |
| seiflotfy | there are bigger issues | 20:03 |
| seiflotfy | education | 20:03 |
| ashams | aha | 20:04 |
| seiflotfy | what does a shirt say about some1 | 20:04 |
| seiflotfy | i have a mozilla shirt | 20:04 |
| seiflotfy | doesnt make me a mozilla guy | 20:04 |
| seiflotfy | i have a kde shirt too | 20:04 |
| ashams | it's important for expansion | 20:04 |
| seiflotfy | no its not | 20:04 |
| ashams | to get ppl know about it | 20:04 |
| seiflotfy | important for expansion is goign to events and talking | 20:05 |
| ashams | events need money too | 20:05 |
| seiflotfy | going to universities and actually formatting pcs to use ubuntu :P | 20:05 |
| seiflotfy | ashams: eventy dont need money | 20:05 |
| seiflotfy | ashams: events need ppl to donate their time | 20:05 |
| seiflotfy | and space | 20:05 |
| seiflotfy | ashams: you shouldnt go ask an uni if you can rent its rooms for ubuntu-eg stuff | 20:06 |
| seiflotfy | look for the unis that will donate the rooms for you | 20:06 |
| seiflotfy | and make u not pay | 20:06 |
| seiflotfy | avoid money transaction | 20:06 |
| ashams | manoura university ets ~2000 for one conf room :( | 20:06 |
| ashams | gets* | 20:06 |
| ashams | one day | 20:06 |
| seiflotfy | then fuck them | 20:06 |
| ashams | horible | 20:06 |
| ashams | so we need money | 20:07 |
| seiflotfy | i can talk to CAiro Uni | 20:07 |
| seiflotfy | no u dont | 20:07 |
| ashams | and self-fund can't take it | 20:07 |
| seiflotfy | ashams: wanna bet that i can get a uni to donate rooms for us | 20:07 |
| seiflotfy | without us having to pay anything | 20:07 |
| ashams | yes | 20:07 |
| ashams | yes | 20:07 |
| seiflotfy | because i started talking to cairo uni | 20:07 |
| seiflotfy | :D | 20:07 |
| ashams | for fossdam? | 20:08 |
| seiflotfy | its fosdam | 20:08 |
| seiflotfy | one s | 20:08 |
| seiflotfy | abotu the idea of a open source conf | 20:08 |
| ashams | haha ok | 20:08 |
| seiflotfy | talked to some professorts there | 20:08 |
| ashams | yes | 20:08 |
| seiflotfy | so if a uni wants you to pay them money to give a talk about something non profit then feel free to tell them to go fuck themselves | 20:09 |
| seiflotfy | find unis that wont ask for money | 20:09 |
| ashams | :D | 20:09 |
| ashams | cool, will try to | 20:10 |
| seiflotfy | ok i gtg | 20:10 |
| seiflotfy | need to get some stuff done here | 20:10 |
| seiflotfy | :D | 20:10 |
| ashams | ok bye dude | 20:10 |
| seiflotfy | ttyl | 20:10 |
| seiflotfy | bye | 20:10 |
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