[01:03] <ikonia> hey an
[01:03] <ikonia> hey Athanasius
[01:03] <Jordan_U> I asked them to come here, since I can't find anything about this xchat exploit from quick googling.
[01:03] <ikonia> ahh
[01:04] <Athanasius> Hi, I've been asked to join and explain why I called !_ops earlier - isantawhatshisface was using an exploit for GTK-for-windows, which primarily affect x-chat for windows and possibly pidgin, in that those clients are unable to display non-BMP unicode characters
[01:04] <Athanasius> Such that affected clients will crash when they attempt to render it
[01:05] <Jordan_U> Athanasius: Do you have a link detailing this exploit?
[01:05] <Athanasius> the specific character used is one I have seen VERY routinely used in deliberate exploit attempts; ascii byte sequence is 243 160 129 159
[01:05] <Athanasius> lemme check
[01:07] <Athanasius> http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2012/02/01/5
[01:07] <Athanasius> this might be it
[01:08] <Athanasius> LjL and marienz know a good amount about it, I think
[01:09] <Athanasius> (btw, for those who didn't notice, I used to lurk on IRC as AfterDeath, rather than Athanasius)
[01:10] <Jordan_U> Athanasius: Thanks.
[01:10] <Athanasius> Yep. Can/should I leave now?
[01:12] <Flannel> Athanasius: Sure thing, thanks.
[01:12] <Athanasius> k, baaaaaaaaaiiii :)
[01:16] <Anastasius> Can someone tell me why I was just banned from #ubuntu?
[01:17] <Jordan_U> Anastasius: I removed you from #Ubuntu because you were offtopic, were asked to stop, and instead continued and gave an attitude.
[01:17] <Anastasius> Jordan_U: Oh. What does that mean?
[01:18] <pangolin> Means we don't appreciate the trolling
[01:18] <Anastasius> Who was trolling?
[01:19] <Jordan_U> Anastasius: That means that #ubuntu has guidelines, which you refused to follow. You can read the full guidelines here: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines Those are the conditions of use for #ubuntu.
[01:19] <Anastasius> Jordan_U: What if I disagree with the guidelines, as set forth in that document that was clearly crafted by an ambulance chasing lawyer?
[01:20] <pangolin> Anastasius: then you can email the ircc
[01:20] <pangolin> !appeals
[01:21] <Anastasius> Oh, please.
[01:22] <Anastasius> When Ubuntu finally swirls down the toilet as it follows the plan of Great Leader, what do you plan to do to maintain some illusion of power?
[01:22] <pangolin> we'll burn that bridge when we cro...
[01:24] <skmpy_> can I be op in #ubuntu plz
[01:24] <ikonia> skmpy_: troll elsewhere or get banned
[01:24] <skmpy_> are those really mutually exlusive?
[01:45] <phix> yay
[01:45] <ikonia> phix: not sure why are you are trying to be a problem, you know how to behave in #ubuntu yet you are trying to do the exact reverse,
[01:46] <ikonia> any reason for this behaviour today ?
[01:46] <phix> ikonia: just trying to help
[01:46] <ikonia> not really
[01:47] <ikonia> infact phix you appear in our logs way too often for this sort of nonsense, I'd request you stay out of ubuntu for a while
[01:47] <ikonia> it's clear you have trouble using the channel
[01:47] <phix> hold n, on phone atm
[01:47] <ikonia> phix: leave the channel and come back when you are free then
[01:49] <phix> ok you were saying?
[01:49] <ikonia> I'm done, nothing more to say
[01:49] <phix> I didnt get any of it, apparantly I had to leave this channel
[01:49] <ikonia> sure, I'll summerise
[01:49] <phix> ok
[01:49] <phix> That would be neat
[01:50] <ikonia> you are constantly a problem in #ubuntu and have had many warnings/short term bans, it's clear you can't interact in the channel within it's guidelines, so you are not welcome in the channel at this time - you can now have a longer break from the channel
[01:51] <phix> ikonia: I havnt been banned for at east 6 months or so, I was only offering help
[01:52] <ikonia> phix: you know the rules, you've had them explained to you many many times before, so, lets make it another 6 months
[01:52] <phix> Apparantly offering help is against guildlines
[01:52] <phix> I Know
[01:52] <phix> I thought helping was allowed
[01:52] <ikonia> phix: calling people "mofos" isn't
[01:52] <phix> or should I help in offtopic?
[01:52] <ikonia> no, there is no support in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:53] <phix> ikonia: I was relating to the person that needed help, they were upset that people were being dicks to them
[01:53] <ikonia> people where not being "dicks" to them
[01:53] <ikonia> either way, you once again can't interact, so you're banned again,
[01:53] <ikonia> phix: see you in 6 months (assuming you want to use the channel at that time)
[01:53] <phix> just trying to reach them on their level, offer them support
[01:53] <ikonia> phix: bye
[01:54] <phix> ikonia: I see
[01:54] <phix> You are being quite short with me
[01:54] <ikonia> yes, as I don't want to do the normal hours of discussion with you
[01:55] <ikonia> you've had your warnings/short bans/longer bans, you still can't fall in line, so discussion over
[01:55] <phix> normal? I havnt spoken to you in like 6 or 8 months
[01:55] <ikonia> and when do speak, you cause a problem.
[01:55] <ikonia> phix: see you in 6 months
[01:55] <phix> I have had no warnings, you just banned me
[01:55] <phix> I was offering assistance
[01:55] <ikonia> phix: you've had many warnings of how to behave, discussion over. Please leave the channel now
[01:56] <phix> I appologise for offering my help in support of #ubuntu
[01:56] <ikonia> accepted,
[01:56] <ikonia> bye
[01:56] <phix> I havnt finished yet
[01:56] <ikonia> you have, bye
[01:56] <phix> HOld on
[02:17] <phix> I seem to have issues getting into #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:17] <ikonia> phix: banned from there too
[02:18] <phix> For what may I ask/
[02:18] <phix> Was I being rude in there too?
[02:18] <ikonia> I'll check for you, hang on
[02:18] <phix> thnx
[02:19] <ikonia> is it saying you are banned ?
[02:19] <phix> Yes
[02:19] <phix> Cannot join to channel #ubuntu-offtopic (You are banned)
[02:19] <ikonia> ahhh found it
[02:20] <ikonia> yes, it was your typical behaviour
[02:20] <phix> ah, how long ago was that?
[02:20] <ikonia> May 2001
[02:20] <ikonia> 2011
[02:20] <phix> That was a while ago
[02:20] <ikonia> correct
[02:20] <phix> Enough time passed you reckon?
[02:20] <ikonia> no
[02:20] <ikonia> seeing as you've just shown you can't behave in #ubuntu
[02:21] <ikonia> and you've had many warnings in the past,
[02:21] <phix> In the past, a yr ago, in whch time I havnt reoffended
[02:21] <ikonia> you just did
[02:21] <ikonia> and you've had many warnings in the past, not just noe
[02:21] <ikonia> one
[02:21] <phix> excluding my outburst of offering help today that is
[02:21] <phix> correct, a yr ago
[02:21] <ikonia> correct, because you've been banned
[02:21] <ikonia> 9 months ago - not a year ago
[02:22] <phix> ok maths fail
[02:22] <ikonia> that's fine,
[02:22] <ikonia> it's not a massive issue,
[02:22] <ikonia> see you in 6 months
[02:22] <phix> yeah not as bad as offering hel, that is outragious
[02:23] <ikonia> ok, bye
[02:23] <phix> spelling fail too
[02:23] <phix> ok so can you drop the ban in ubuntu-offtopic?
[02:23] <ikonia> no, I've just said that
[02:23] <ikonia> you'll do better if you start listening to what's being said to you
[02:23] <ikonia> see you in 6 months, no need for any more discussion
[02:23] <phix> yes you said a bunch of stuff that may be related to #ubuntu but not #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:24] <ikonia> ok, I'll be clear, you've banned in both.
[02:24] <phix> there is
[02:24] <phix> ok why am I being banned in offtopic for?
[02:24] <ikonia> see you in 6 months, that's not going to change
[02:24] <ikonia> phix: because I don't believe you can behave in line with the ubuntu guidelines
[02:24] <phix> do you mind if I ask another op?
[02:24] <ikonia> if there is another one free at this time, sure
[02:24] <phix> I reckon I can
[02:24] <phix> unban me and give it a ago
[02:24] <ikonia> no
[02:24] <phix> sure
[02:25] <pangolin> phix: the ban in -offtopic was because you had just been kicked in #ubuntu for swearing, joined offtopic and swore.
[02:25] <ikonia> phix: I'll give it 10 minutes for another op to show up / active in here,
[02:25] <phix> pangolin: yes that was 9months ago, you want to drop that ban now?
[02:25] <pangolin> seeing how you just got banned in #ubuntu. I don't see any chance of the offtopic ban being lifted.
[02:25] <pangolin> phix: no. ikonia's decision stands.
[02:25] <ikonia> phix: there you go, another op has concured.
[02:25] <phix> pangolin: I was banned in #Ubuntu because ikonia doesn't like me
[02:26] <phix> thnx ikonia
[02:26] <phix> You too pangolin
[02:26] <pangolin> ikonia: is many things but not vengeful
[02:26] <ikonia> phix: your request for another operator to pass opion has been completed. Please leave the channel and see you in 6 months
[02:26] <phix> I am glad we sorted that mess out
[02:26] <ikonia> phix: bye
[02:26] <phix> see you later
[02:26] <phix> /part BRB
[02:27] <phix> lol
[02:27] <pangolin> staff exploit attempt ^
[02:27] <ikonia> ?
[02:27] <pangolin> that is an xchat exploit
[02:27] <ikonia> what is ?
[02:27] <pangolin> all the little squares
[02:27] <ikonia> he said "brb" - "be right back"
[02:29] <pangolin> I'll post a ss
[05:03] <Flannel> Sometimes I hate people.
[05:45] <Ben64> someone keeps asking about Ubuntu for gay people
[05:45] <Ben64> :|
[05:47] <pangolin> removed them
[06:20] <Ben64> i'm back, because he's back
[06:21] <Ben64> tried to direct him to offtopic, but he keeps pestering me in particular
 Ben64, have dinner together? ...
[08:13] <Corey> bazhang: Finally.
[08:14] <bazhang> Corey, if he comes back I will ban.
[08:14] <Corey> bazhang: Give it a minute. :-)
[08:15] <bazhang> yep
[08:22] <bazhang> capcook, can we help you?
[08:22] <Suppa_Spic> Why I was kicked from ubuntu
[08:23] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, just a moment
[08:23] <capcook> no, just teading
[08:23] <capcook> **reading
[08:23] <Suppa_Spic> hello
[08:23] <Suppa_Spic> capcook: ?
[08:24] <bazhang> capcook, if you do not have an issue, please exit the channel, thanks
[08:24] <capcook> ok. a minute. turn off my router
[08:24] <Suppa_Spic> hello
[08:25] <Suppa_Spic> anybody here?
[08:25] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, yes
[08:25] <Corey> Yes?
[08:25] <Suppa_Spic> Why I was kicked from ubuntu
[08:25] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, you were asked to stop with the discussion of windows games and move it to #winehq after checking the appdb
[08:26] <Corey> We're not really big on asking the same thing repeatedly. :-)
[08:26] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, I asked you several times to do that, and you continued. that is why
[08:26] <Suppa_Spic> what's wrong about that?
[08:26] <Suppa_Spic> So I can't ask questions about games compatibility with Ubento?
[08:27] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: Not the same question over and over and over, no.
[08:27] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, ubuntu is not the place to discuss individual windows games support, #winehq is
[08:27] <Suppa_Spic> Corey: it was not the same question iirc
[08:27] <bazhang> at any rate Suppa_Spic it was just a remove, and not a ban.
[08:27] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: Was there anything else?
[08:28] <Suppa_Spic> ok thank guys, you're all really helpful
[08:28] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, could you please change the last part of your nick to something more suitable
[08:28] <Suppa_Spic> bazhang: ummmmh I've been using this nick for years, what's wrong about it?
[08:29] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, some users have complained about the 'Spic' part as being offensive
[08:29] <Corey> It's more offensive than we generally prefer to see in the #ubuntu- namespace.
[08:29] <Suppa_Spic> ummmh ok
[08:32] <pangolin> change the nick means, change the nick.
[08:32] <pangolin> Please.
[08:32] <Suppa_Spic> ummmh ok
[08:32] <Suppa_Spic> it is possible to change my nick in one channel only?
[08:33] <Corey> No.
[08:33] <Suppa_Spic> I want to keep my nick in the other channels I join
[08:33] <elky> you can connect a second time with a less racist nick for ubuntu channels
[08:33] <Suppa_Spic> ummmh it's not racist
[08:34] <elky> spic is actually very racist
[08:34] <Corey> Sure it is. "Spic is an ethnic slur used in the United States for a person of Hispanic background. "
[08:34] <Suppa_Spic> I am Mexican and is not racist
[08:34] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: It's a term we don't accept here.  Please change it or /part.
[08:34] <Suppa_Spic> ummmh ok
[08:35] <pangolin> doesn't help if he is still in #ubuntu using the nick
[08:36] <Corey> pangolin: Another slap will get him sorted.  I've been shadowing him for half an hour now.
[08:37] <Corey> And boom goes the dynamite.
 where is the linux family? obvi ubuntu is racist against other flavors
[08:43] <bazhang> huh?
[08:44] <bazhang> so #ubuntu should support all others or it's "racist" ?
[08:44] <bazhang> for context: he was asked not to recommend MINT in #ubuntu
[08:44] <pangolin> where did he say that?
[08:45] <bazhang> a couple lines before the crazy white southerners line
[08:46] <pangolin> oh
[10:21] <popey_> hmm, did my connection bounce a lot or something? Was I booted from #ubuntu?
[10:22] <bazhang> * popey_ (~alan@popey.com) has left #ubuntu
[10:23] <popey> that was a minute or two back so i could /nick popey
[10:23] <popey> oh i see a lot of ping timeouts last night
[10:23] <popey> nvm
[10:24] <bazhang> not booted that I can see
[10:29] <Myrtti> popey: massive ping timeout, floodbots recognised it as mass join, set the channel protected, banforwarded you to #ubuntu-unregged, we cleared it...
[10:34] <popey> ta
[12:00] <oCean> nat0.staffs.ac.uk  <rootkit> ubuntu is kinda bloated
 hoijui, that's gtk for you
[12:20] <bazhang> in response to a bug report
[12:34] <bazhang> @mark #ubuntu LINT more of the same mocking commentary
[12:50] <bazhang> by druif I guess he means mrchrisdruif
[12:50] <bazhang> ie monsterripper
[12:51] <oCean> I guess so. The link is failing for me anyway
[13:14] <ikonia> oCean: staffs unit again
[13:14] <ikonia> oops, stayed oped
[13:16] <oCean> ikonia: yes, and same behaviour as before, complaining in #freenode about being unfairly banned etc
[13:17] <ikonia> oCean: do you believe it to be the same user ?
[13:19] <oCean> ikonia: well, can't say for certain, but the complaining in #freenode is the same, about "abusive ops" and all
[13:22] <ikonia> do you have a log of the comments from #freenode ?
[13:47]  * LjL wonders what exactly it is about emulators that makes it any different from asking what's a recommended email client or something else
[13:47] <bazhang> augh
[13:47] <bazhang> followed by stfu
[13:51] <LjL> i love people who just make up rules
[13:51] <LjL> like the fellow earlier who wanted a pastebin for one line of output
[15:17] <Silverlion> test
[15:17] <mneptok> fail
[15:17] <ikonia> it works
[15:17] <mneptok> err ... PASS!
[15:17] <Silverlion> mneptok i know
[15:17] <Silverlion> :D
[15:40] <ikonia> I note rly has not come back after he actually started getting help
[15:40] <ikonia> I suspect he just wanted to rant
[15:40] <bazhang> dot files?
[15:40] <ikonia> dot files ?
[15:40] <bazhang> that was his initial complaint
[15:41] <ikonia> ooh really
[15:41] <ikonia> it changed to "boot up is poor" then to "hard disk seeks are slow"
[15:41] <ikonia> I suspect just rants
[15:41] <bazhang> and he abused two helpers in the process iceroot and monkeydust
[15:49] <mneptok> he's baaaaaaaack
[15:49] <Silverlion> mneptok who?
[15:49] <bazhang> rly
[15:51] <Silverlion> can someone enlighten me? who is back?
[15:51] <bazhang> user with the nick of 'rly'
[15:51] <Silverlion> which chan?
[15:51] <bazhang> #ubuntu
[15:52] <Silverlion> ok, joined this chan willing to help
[16:04] <ikonia> tried to explain to rly that he neeeds to change how he speaks to people, refused to as they are all idiots, now ranting that I know nothing and can't help and he knows all systems inside out, change him to +b and ignoring his rants in pm to let him rant himself out
[16:10] <bazhang> rly, hi
[16:10] <rly> Hi, please ban ikonia for not even responding to information which he/she asked and thus trolling.
[16:11] <rly> If you care to ask a question and ignore the answer, you are -- by definition -- a troll.
[16:11] <Silverlion> rly rly
[16:11] <bazhang> rly, this is to discuss your ban
[16:11] <bazhang> Silverlion, please dont
[16:11] <Silverlion> bazhang copy that
[16:11]  * Silverlion stands down
[16:11] <rly> My ban was the result of implicitly making stupid people feel stupid.
[16:12] <rly> I think that just sums it up, doesn't it?
[16:12] <bazhang> rly, well there are guidelines for the channel as well as a code of conduct
[16:12] <rly> The guide lines also say to never speak badly of Ubuntu, even when it is craptastic?
[16:12] <rly> The guide lines were of course created by a fascist movement, you.
[16:13] <bazhang> rly, it's a tech support channel, not a rant channel
[16:34] <rly> Ok, here we go. I just love to talk to people who continue to defend their lack of technical skills is a reason to ban me.
[16:34] <bazhang> rly, hello
[16:34] <rly> hello
[16:34] <bazhang> rly, lets move this forward please
[16:34] <rly> I think you can only ask 'where is the start button' in #ubuntu.
[16:36] <bazhang> rly, please have a look at the guidelines and the code of conduct for ubuntu channels
[16:36] <bazhang> !guidelines
[16:36] <bazhang> !codeofconduct
[16:37] <rly> The code of conduct, I am sure, does not rule out idiots playing admin.
[16:37] <bazhang> rly, you're not helping
[16:37] <rly> bazhang: I have nothing against you, at this moment.
[16:37] <rly> bazhang: it is just that ikonia is a moron.
[16:37] <rly> Can't really help it.
[16:37] <bazhang> lets be civil and move this forward please
[16:38] <bazhang> name-calling won't do that
[16:38] <rly> If he actually wanted to help, he would have done something with me taking the time to find the performance data.
[16:38] <rly> Now, he didn't and as such it is just a time wasting piece of cockroach.
[16:38] <bazhang> rly, much as I want to help, if you persist with such, there's no way to augh
[16:39] <ikonia> you warned him multiple times to stop with the name calling, he continues, no point progressing if he can't stop such basic tasks
[16:46] <Silverlion> rly. good day
[16:46] <ikonia> he was kicked from the channel
[16:47] <Silverlion> which chan he is now?
[16:47] <ikonia> no channels
[16:47] <Silverlion> :(
[16:47] <Silverlion> ok
[16:47] <ikonia> he's also just logged off, so I suspect he'll try to join #ubuntu with a different nick/no cloak
[16:48] <ikonia> I suggest keeping an eye open
[16:55] <ikonia> bazhang: what was that about ?
[16:56] <ikonia> I'm not going to push to find out based on your !ot
[16:56] <bazhang> he's just constantly mocking ikonia
[16:56] <oCean> Lint has MANY ot warnings
[16:56] <ikonia> tedious now
[16:56] <bazhang> just making sure that he gets a mark
[16:56] <bazhang> doing the ! or @comment here achieves that
[16:57] <Silverlion> bazhang what this about ! or @ comment?
[16:58] <bazhang> Silverlion, if a user receives four !warnings, then the bot will record it
[16:58] <Silverlion> bazhang thx for info ;)
[16:58]  * Silverlion goes to born some linux mint ;)
[16:58] <bazhang> Silverlion, similarly if we @comment #channel user /behavior they get a mark in the ban tracker
[16:59] <Silverlion> omg i need a lot to learn :(
[16:59] <Silverlion> i am good at talking but remembering intel that is my lack
[17:03] <Myrtti> ikonia: oneiric, not pangolin
[17:03] <Myrtti> er, precise
[17:03] <ikonia> oops, the other guy confused me, thanks
[21:57] <Silverlion> re
[21:59] <ikonia> yeah yeah
[22:00] <Silverlion> ikonia: what is that call?
[22:00] <ikonia> someone did an exploit in #ubuntu
[22:00] <ikonia> (to try to get peoples clients to drop)
[22:01] <ikonia> Flannel: for 15 years of experience this guy sure is sloppy
[22:01] <Pici> !exploit
[22:02] <Silverlion> great ^^ i am not allowed in this chan
[22:03] <Flannel> You're not allowed in which channel?
[22:03] <Silverlion> u-ops-monitor
[22:03] <Pici> o
[22:03] <Pici> one monment
[22:03] <Flannel> Ah.
[22:04] <AlanBell> not the most exciting of channels :)
[22:04] <Flannel> Silverlion: The bots use that channel as a scratchpad to call ops with various things
[22:04] <Flannel> It just happens to be a channel that the floodbots and ubottu are both in
[22:04] <Silverlion> Flannel: so where was this user who did the exploid?
[22:04] <Flannel> since ops calls are routed here, we get info without the floodbots having to be in this channel
[22:04] <Flannel> Silverlion: in #ubuntu
[22:05] <Silverlion> only trying to learn
[22:12] <Silverlion> another question: how can an op see from the messages of the bots what happens?
[22:12] <ikonia> match up what the bots are telling you to what's going on in the channel
[22:13] <Silverlion> ok, how am i going to identify a user who exploids?
[22:14] <ikonia> that requires time/experience
[22:14] <ikonia> maybe a little research on irc exploits to get a high level idea
[22:14] <ikonia> eg: you saw the guy in this example do a dcc sent to the channel
[22:14] <Flannel> They say "D C C send start key logger garbage"  with a few of the spaces removed, and garbage being some garbage characters
[22:14] <Flannel> that actually is two (three?) exploits wrapped into one.
[22:15] <Flannel> but recently (past year or two) that's been the most common
[22:15] <ikonia> Silverlion: it will just click as you see it more and more
[22:15] <ikonia> Flannel: I've not seen it in an age until yesterday
[22:15] <Flannel> ikonia: Well, the xchat ones have been common recently, but this is the classic, if you will :)
[22:16] <ikonia> yeah, it's picked up recently, after not seeing it for a long time
[22:24] <elky> it's probably been posted to reddit by a skiddie or something
[22:52] <Silverlion> ok sorry for my stupid questions. but why was there another op-call in #u`?
[22:52] <Silverlion> couldn't find a reason
[22:52] <ikonia> the guy was spamming
[22:52] <ikonia> as you can see the call shows the name Kaan_M_32
[22:52] <ikonia> 22:36 < Kaan_M_32> IF YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY COME TO http://www.borabux.com/?ct=mirc
[22:53] <Silverlion> ikonia: thx for enlightment ;)