[00:00] <Cerin> SpamapS: that's a fair question. I'm really not sure. It's mostly little stuff, like when an update is available, I like being able to click through the packages, to read their descriptions and docs. I don't know of an easy way to do that from the command line.
[00:04] <Spanky> Anybody using Zentyal?  (10.04 Ubuntu is the base...)
[00:12] <SpamapS> Cerin: apt-cache show packagename
[00:13] <Cerin> SpamapS: ?
[00:13] <Cerin> SpamapS: that's a lot to type in for 30+ packages that need to be installed
[00:14] <Cerin> in this case, pointing and clicking does save a lot of time
[00:14] <SpamapS> Cerin: for i in p1 p2 p3 p4 ; do apt-cache show $i ; done   ;-)
[00:15] <Cerin> What's the old cliche? When all you have is a hammer, all the world looks like a nail? :)
[00:17] <JanC> Cerin: aptitude will let you read descriptions etc. from an ncurses UI
[00:17] <SpamapS> Cerin: pointing and clicking saves time learning.. but ultimately, the CLI will be more efficient if you take the time to learn it.
[00:19] <Cerin> SpamapS: I agree.
[00:21] <JanC> Cerin: also, you can run X applications on your server, but display them on your desktop PC  ;)
[00:22] <Cerin> JanC: Unfortunately, I can't get Xorg to start on my server. Does that require a local X server, or can the server use the remove X server?
[00:22] <JanC> Cerin: only the computer on which X apps are displayed need an X server
[00:23] <Cerin> JanC: Interesting, thanks.
[00:23] <JanC> that's how a "terminal server" works
[00:23] <JanC> at least on linux/X
[00:24] <SpamapS> Cerin:
[00:24] <SpamapS> oo
[00:24] <SpamapS> oops
[00:24] <SpamapS> Cerin: ssh -X yourserver
[00:24] <SpamapS> Cerin: any X programs on the remove server will display on your local machine
[00:24] <SpamapS> s/remove/remote/
[00:24] <JanC> but in any case, try to learn how to do without that
[00:24]  * SpamapS is having lag problems doh
[00:25]  * SpamapS goes back to his weekend
[00:26] <JanC> it's strange; even on Windows I used to use a lot of commandline tools  ;)
[00:28] <Cerin> SpamapS: cool, thanks
[04:28] <kklimonda> hmm, any idea how could I create a "private network" for VMs? i.e. network that has no connection to outside (neither NAT nor bridged)
[04:32] <kklimonda> ah, I can just create a new network
[04:38] <ChmEarl> kklimonda, is libvirt installed?
[04:38] <kklimonda> ChmEarl: yes
[04:38] <kklimonda> I just thought too hard about it
[04:38] <ChmEarl> kklimonda, use default.xml as a template
[04:40] <ChmEarl> usr/share/libvirt/networks/
[04:40] <samba35> if i have to configure trunk on linux ,what change i have to make in eth1 ? VLAN=yes and
[04:40] <kklimonda> I can actually use virt-manager -- network creation works with libvirt from debian
[04:40] <kklimonda> (well, libvirt from debian on debian)
[04:46] <myk_robinson> evening, all
[04:46] <myk_robinson> Any of you using Ubuntu Server in a business settings? Curious to see what applications people are using it for
[04:58] <Danny_Joris> Hi, I downloaded the musicbrainz VM and following the instructions here: http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainz_Server/Setup
[04:58] <Danny_Joris> I'm trying to get the IP address of my vm
[04:59] <Danny_Joris> if I check with ifconfig, this is what I get for eth0 inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:fe88:b42a/64
[04:59] <Danny_Joris> Not really an address I can use
[05:09] <kklimonda> Danny_Joris: then you don't have ipv4 address configured for some reason
[05:27] <Danny_Joris> kklimonda: yeah, i see that eth0 is set to auto and dhcp
[05:27] <Danny_Joris> network restart didn't help
[06:34] <axisys> how do I enable ethernet over usb ?
[06:35] <axisys> # lsmod | grep usb
[06:35] <axisys> usbnet                 26212  1 cdc_ether
[06:35] <axisys> usbhid                 47198  0
[06:35] <axisys> hid                    95463  1 usbhid
[06:35] <axisys> [403358.980300] usb 2-5: new high speed USB device number 17 using ehci_hcd
[06:35] <axisys> [406343.382470] Loading kernel module for a network device with CAP_SYS_MODULE (deprecated).  Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev-usbnet instead
[06:35] <axisys> [406915.986903] usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_ether
[06:35] <axisys> still not showing in ifconfig -a
[09:37] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #934704 in php5 (main) "php5 apache cannot use $_post read data" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934704
[10:40] <pehden> net.org
[12:33] <Cerin> I just installed Ubuntu Server 11.10, and I'm noticing boot up is taking forever, and was stuck for 10 minutes at "Stopping read required files in advance". Now it seems stuck at "Stopping anachronistic cron". Does anyone know why these would be taking so long?
[12:56] <TheInfinity> hi ... one question. ubuntu server, apache + fastcgi + php + suexec. i want apache to create files with chmod 660 / 770. how to do this?
[12:59] <RoyK> anyone tha knows if php fpm is available somehow for lucid?
[12:59] <RoyK> TheInfinity: create modes can be set in the php call
[13:00] <RoyK> TheInfinity: btw, mod_php might be easier/better than fastcgi with apache
[13:01] <TheInfinity> RoyK: i prefer suexec security. :) ... fastcgi setup works excellent and really fast (just switched it, was a nice performance boost here) - but i like to have a rights management so then even with suexec not everything is writable for apache
[13:02] <TheInfinity> RoyK: and i dont want to patch every software a client installs. so i need something which is set server-wide
[14:01] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #936216 in apache2 (main) "Apache doesn't start if /var/log/apache2 is missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/936216
[15:06] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #936266 in postfix (main) "tls_append_default_CA and *_tls_CApath don't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/936266
[15:37] <sbarakos> hello there, my ubuntu server was recently hacked and aparently the guy that hacked it blocked all of the ports using iptables prolly, and now i cant access my HD using putty ssh connection, says connection refused on the port that i was previously using to access my server, could anyone help me with that?
[15:38] <qman___> if it's not accepting connections, you need to get local access and fix it
[15:38] <qman___> you can check if it has any ports open with nmap
[15:38] <qman___> but honestly, with an attack of that scale, backup and format
[15:39] <ikonia> sbarakos: you need to get someone local to access the machine
[15:39] <ikonia> sbarakos: take it off the network, re-install the OS, move any data you feel you need, but check for compromises in the data you move
[15:39] <ikonia> sbarakos: change all passwords and any private keys you have on your machine if you feel they are compromised
[15:41] <sbarakos> well my machine is hosted by a company, so i guess their techs should do it, well in my CP i can use :rescue-mode to boot from, and when i boot it there i am able to login through ssh
[15:42] <ikonia> sbarakos: you can't login in rescue mode
[15:42] <ikonia> sbarakos: it won't boot onto the network
[15:42] <ikonia> sbarakos: I'd advise you not to boot it onto the network if it's been compromised
[15:42] <sbarakos> ok
[15:42] <ikonia> sbarakos: the people who broke into it, could have all kinds of nasty stuff just waiting for it to be re-connected to the network
[15:43] <sbarakos> no thats the thing, i loged through my vnc viewer before, and they still had the vnc viewer connection and same pass and my server connected to the network, with an open txt saying Itslovelol remember us
[15:44] <sbarakos> we like tamper around
[15:44] <ikonia> I would not trust it at all
[15:44] <sbarakos> but then when i closed my vnc i didnt even thought that they would close my ports, and went for a hard reboot, and as u know the vnc viewer needs to be started again once rebooted
[15:45] <ikonia> sbarakos: I wouldn't trust it at all, it's up to you what you do
[15:46] <sbarakos> well since i cant even connect through ssh, it means that ill have to reinstall my OS
[15:46] <sbarakos> thing is that i have some data in there which i propably need
[15:46] <sbarakos> like my databases
[15:46] <ikonia> deal with it when you visit the site
[15:46] <qman___> backup your data and reprovision the server
[15:47] <qman___> also, running VNC with standard password security is a Very Bad Idea (tm)
[15:48] <qman___> it's transmitted in cleartext, limited to 8 characters, and is easy to crack
[15:49] <ikonia> hence the server being compromised
[15:49] <qman___> if you need VNC, you should secure it by not allowing direct connections from the internet, and using SSH tunneling or openVPN to get to it
[15:50] <ikonia> firewall it to specific ip ranges
[15:51] <sbarakos> yes that would be the best idea
[15:51] <sbarakos> well its my first server and i am still in the learning process
[15:51] <sbarakos> i guess everyone made mistakes and started off somewhere
[15:57] <sbarakos> qman___: how can i backup my data and reprovision the server? without having access to it through ssh?
[15:57] <qman___> you may need your provider to do it for you
[15:57] <qman___> you haven't said what kind of hosting you have
[15:58] <qman___> colo? dedicated? vps?
[15:58] <qman___> managed or unmanaged?
[15:58] <sbarakos> kimsufi
[15:58] <sbarakos> from ovh
[15:58] <sbarakos> i think its unmanaged dedicated
[15:59] <qman___> ok, looks like you need to use their rescue system
[16:00] <qman___> I don't know exactly how theirs works, but usually it's just a web interface into local access, sort of like an IP KVM
[16:00] <sbarakos> ye they have a kvm
[16:01] <sbarakos> i can actually netboot as rescue-pro or vkvm
[16:03] <qman___> if possible you don't want to boot your compromised operating system
[16:03] <qman___> just get access to the data so you can back it up
[16:03] <sbarakos> ye but how can i get access to the data, since i logged through ssh for example in rescue-pro boot but it seems like its totally different interface
[16:04] <qman___> probably mount your / to /mnt
[16:04] <qman___> like mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[16:19] <yakster> can ne one help with a command for the following : recursively mv files containing extension avi, to a new directory?
[16:20] <yakster> base directory is /downloads/complete/TV to new directory /downloads/complete/24
[16:40] <michael_tn> good day all :-)
[16:49] <michael_tn> any orchestra/juju folks around?
[16:50] <qman___> !anyone | michael_tn
[16:51] <michael_tn> fair enough
[16:51] <qman___> I personally don't know anything about that subject, but you'll get a lot better response stating your actual problem or question
[16:52] <michael_tn> i'm working thru the orchestra/juju openstack guide (second time through it) and my build gets stuck when i begin to provision openstack services into the cluster.
[16:52] <___MAX> Hi, i try to ssh my ubuntu 1010 server but the connection is refused on port22, i remove apparmor but no luck
[16:52] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 1010 in drivel "out-of-date" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1010
[16:52] <___MAX> 	http://i41.tinypic.com/2ptxz5g.png
[16:53] <ikonia> ___MAX: you are either firewalled or sshd is not running on the server
[16:53] <ikonia> ___MAX: please don't cross-post your questions in #ubuntu and here
[16:54] <___MAX> hi, ikonia always control , thanks i try the sshd
[16:54] <michael_tn> my juju clients pxeboot, install then fail to build/reboot correctly
[16:55] <sbarakos> qman___: i used the mount /dev/sd1 /mnt and did the same for sd2
[16:55] <qman___> sbarakos, cat /proc/partitions or fdisk -l to see if it's there
[16:56] <qman___> also, sd1 and sd2 are not valid devices
[16:56] <qman___> but I'm guessing that's just at typo
[16:56] <sbarakos> sda
[16:56] <sbarakos> yes my fault sorry
[16:57] <sbarakos>  8        0 1953514584 sda
[16:57] <sbarakos>    8        1   10485760 sda1
[16:57] <sbarakos>    8        2 1942498304 sda2
[16:57] <sbarakos>    8        3     525920 sda3
[16:58] <qman___> looks like sda2 is the one with your data
[16:58] <sbarakos> how can i backup em?
[16:58] <sbarakos> i got an ftp for backup
[16:58] <qman___> have to mount it and access the data
[16:59] <qman___> are you at a root prompt? #
[16:59] <sbarakos> yes
[16:59] <sbarakos> i am logged through ssh in rescue as root
[16:59] <qman___> ok, type 'mount'
[16:59] <qman___> if neither of those two is already mounted somewhere, mount /dev/sda2 /mnt, then all your files should be in /mnt
[17:01] <sbarakos> qman___:
[17:01] <sbarakos> copy  /dev/sda1 on /mnt type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered)
[17:01] <sbarakos> copy  /dev/sda2 on /mnt type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered)
[17:02] <qman___> ah, umount /dev/sda1
[17:02] <qman___> both mounted at the same spot can lead to problems
[17:03] <sbarakos> done
[17:03] <qman___> now run 'mount' to verify
[17:03] <qman___> and if only sda2 is mounted there, cd to /mnt and your root filesystem should be there
[17:03] <sbarakos> i can see only sda1
[17:04] <sbarakos> copy /dev/sda1 on /mnt type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered)
[17:04] <qman___> ok, go ahead and umount both of them
[17:04] <qman___> just umount /mnt a couple times
[17:04] <qman___> then retry mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[17:04] <qman___> I'm guessing that's where your data is because it's the largest by far
[17:04] <qman___> but your data could be on sda1
[17:06] <sbarakos> ye it depends :s
[17:06] <sbarakos> cant i mount both of them?
[17:06] <qman___> yes, but you need to mount in different locations
[17:06] <qman___> you could create /mnt/sda1 and /mnt/sda2, and mount to those locations respectively
[17:07] <sbarakos> hmm mount point doesnt exist
[17:07] <qman___> you have to mkdir them
[17:09] <sbarakos> ok i did
[17:09] <sbarakos> in cd
[17:09] <sbarakos> i mean under ~
[17:09] <sbarakos> its not important on where ill create em right?
[17:10] <qman___> they can be anywhere, but that's what you have to specify as the mount point
[17:12] <sbarakos> copy /dev/sda1 on /mnt/sda1 type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered)
[17:12] <sbarakos> copy /dev/sda2 on /mnt/sda2 type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered)
[17:17] <sbarakos> is that right?
[17:20] <qman___> that's fine
[17:20] <sbarakos> now how should i proceed?
[17:21] <qman___> cd in there and find your files
[17:21] <qman___> if they're there, back them up with your preferred method
[17:21] <qman___> probably tar them up and ftp
[17:21] <sbarakos> whats the command to tar them and then upload em to the ftp?
[17:22] <qman___> well, 'ftp' is the ftp command
[17:22] <sbarakos> but also dont forget i am in rescue so, would i be able to upload em?
[17:22] <qman___> find out if you're online
[17:23] <qman___> try to ping google or something
[17:23] <sbarakos> it does
[17:25] <sbarakos> command for tar is tar name.tar.bz2 folder ?
[17:25] <qman___> you should read the tar manual to find out exactly what you want, but a simple gzip compressed tarball would go like this: tar czf /mnt/sda2/backup.tar.gz /mnt/sda2/path/to/my/files
[18:40] <g0tcha> hey guys, ive been running ubuntu server as a virtual machine for a while, now i want to add a secondary network card. i added it in vmware so it has 2 network cards, but how can i enable the new added card on ubuntu server?
[18:44] <guntbert> g0tcha: check with ifconfig or        ip link   if it is recognized by the kernel, then edit your /etc/network/interfaces appropriately
[18:45] <sbarakos> what is the best command to transfer files from my computer to my server through ssh?
[18:45] <sbarakos> wget?
[18:45] <Patrickdk> heh?
[18:45] <Patrickdk> wget?
[18:46] <Patrickdk> normally scp or rsync
[18:46] <Patrickdk> scp would be copy though ssh :)
[18:46] <Patrickdk> rsync is nice nice :)
[18:46] <Patrickdk> just nice :)
[18:46] <sbarakos> so if i want to transfer from my c folder the rar named whatever.rar
[18:46] <sbarakos> id do scp c:/whatever.rar
[18:46] <sbarakos> in the terminal?
[18:46] <hallyn> stgraber: my uptodate precise laptop keeps losing dns.  Though network is fine.  resolv.conf is unchanged.  i have to disconnect/reconnect wireless from n-m applet, then it's back
[18:47] <Patrickdk> dunno, this isn't windows :)
[18:47] <Patrickdk> there is no c folder/drive/...
[18:47] <guntbert> sbarakos: scp source destination   - are you on windows?
[18:48] <sbarakos> yes
[18:48] <sbarakos> but my server aint
[18:48] <Patrickdk> you probably should just use filezilla
[18:48] <Patrickdk> it supports scp
[18:48] <stgraber> hallyn: hmm, is dnsmasq crashing or just not answering?
[18:48] <sbarakos> i am trying to do ftp ftp://myip:21
[18:48] <sbarakos> it says unknown host..
[18:49] <sbarakos> while if i run it from any other machine in a web browser
[18:49] <sbarakos> it will popup asking username and pwd
[18:50] <sbarakos> so noone?
[18:52] <guntbert> sbarakos: Patrickdk told you already
[18:52] <sbarakos> well i tried the scp
[18:52] <sbarakos> and it doesnt work
[18:53] <Patrickdk> it does, on unix
[18:53] <Patrickdk> you didn't specify windows
[18:53] <sbarakos> i am also trying to connect to my ftp but it says unknown host
[18:53] <sbarakos> cant i just connect to my ftp?
[19:00] <guntbert> sbarakos: use filezilla
[19:01] <sbarakos> i have filezilla server
[19:01] <sbarakos> but i cant connect to it through the putty terminal
[19:02] <guntbert> sbarakos: you use filezilla as a client on your windows machine :)
[19:35] <wonderman> hey, to use 'rotatelogs' in apache, i should use whatever location rotatelogs is in? ubuntu this is /sbin/rotatelogs?
[19:35] <wonderman> /usr/sbin/rotatelogs
[19:36] <wonderman> reading apache docs, they gives 3-4 different locations around different manuals
[19:38] <wonderman> also, cronjobs, i am running this    >     0=* */16 * * * curl --silent "http://domain.com/file.php"
[19:38] <wonderman> but its not working, must i run this as root cronjob?
[20:31] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #936503 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/936503
[20:34] <Cerin> How do you set Grub to automatically use the Xen kernel in Ubuntu? I tried setting GRUB_DEFAULT=saved, running update-grub, and then selecting the Xen kernel manually, but rebooting causes Grub to select the last non-Xen kernel.
[20:38] <lifeless> wonderman: hi; not sure on the rotatelogs (ubuntu should rotate automatically), but for cronjobs that won't care about being root or not
[20:45] <wonderman> hmm, lifeless they are not running though, i waited 2 days and nothing..
[20:47] <lifeless> how do you know it is not running ?
[20:47] <wonderman> because the php file is not executing
[20:47] <MatBoy> guys what is a good alternative, opensource and free, with gui for puppet ?
[20:50] <wonderman> i just did 'crontab -e'  lifeless, and added that line
[20:50] <wonderman> nothing else i should do? i also restarted the cron server after it didnt work the first day
[21:09] <MatBoy> mhh there are really no good clutser configfile management tools
[21:12] <michael_tn> MatBoy: i'm experimenting with orchestra/juju at the momet
[21:12] <michael_tn> but struggling :)
[21:13] <michael_tn> would like to use them to stand up openstack on this old HPC cluster
[21:14] <Psi-Jack> okay.
[21:14] <Psi-Jack> I'm trying to resolve a MAJOR bug in Ubuntu 11.10's grub setup to where SOMETIMES (not always), the boot up default timeout doesn't appear, so it's sitting at the boot up doing nothing.
[21:16] <qman___> stuck lshift key?
[21:17] <qman___> more importantly, reproduceable on different hardware?
[21:18] <MatBoy> michael_tn: mhh.. i have looked into that a long time ago... how does it work ?
[21:18] <michael_tn> MatBoy: so far the orchestra build goes fine
[21:18] <michael_tn> i'm having problems getting juju to deply services succesfully
[21:19] <MatBoy> michael_tn: I think you can simply build something like it with a bunch of PHP scripts
[21:20] <Psi-Jack> qman___: They're virtual machines.
[21:21] <michael_tn> MatBoy: perhaps, but i'd like to see this work, have a few days invested it it and i think i'm close
[21:21] <wonderman> qman___: thanks for the other day
[21:21] <MatBoy> michael_tn: on 12 it's mainstream ? I hope this will be free and opensource in the future
[21:21] <michael_tn> 11.10
[21:21] <wonderman> great help :)
[21:22] <michael_tn> its mainstream in oneiric as well
[21:22] <MatBoy> michael_tn: I have a 11.10 machine :D
[21:22] <Psi-Jack> qman___: Example, I just upgraded all my debian 6 hypervisor servers which run Proxmox VE 2.0rc1 (now, was beta2), And I run fw1, fw2, lvs1, lvs2 VM's in HA setup accross 4 physical servers. When I finished rebooting each physical server, one by one doing the host OS upgrade, I noticed fw1 and fw2 were stuck on the grub screen without a timeout.
[21:22] <michael_tn> what i'm following: http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/10/ubuntu-cloud-deployment-with-orchestra-and-juju/
[21:23] <Psi-Jack> All of my VM's run under kvm, which shutdown does a simple acpi signal to the OS to shut down.
[21:25] <qman___> ah
[21:25] <qman___> I wouldn't know where to begin with that one
[21:26] <Psi-Jack> it's ACTING as if there's some setup involved with grub to not do a countdown if there was a failed boot, or a few boots occured in a short amount of time.
[21:26] <Psi-Jack> Which if that's true, why the hell is it doing so, especially from an ubuntu-server installation? ;)
[21:26] <Psi-Jack> I can see that being useful-ish, on a desktop platform, but never a server.
[21:27] <MatBoy> michael_tn: ok, but what about juju ?
[21:27] <MatBoy> michael_tn: will orchestra not be a landscape paid version ?
[21:28] <michael_tn> MatBoy: donno, as of now juju is in mainstream as well
[21:28]  * michael_tn is bootstrapping juju server at the moment
[21:28] <Psi-Jack> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11467684  this also shows other people are getting the same issue.
[21:29] <Psi-Jack> Specifically with this: when I shutdown my server with "sudo shutdown -h now" command, it doesn't autostart on next boot
[21:29] <MatBoy> michael_tn: what is the difference between orchestra and juju ?
[21:29] <michael_tn> MatBoy: all a bit difficult for me, not really an ubuntu person, but at least its interesting :-)
[21:29] <MatBoy> michael_tn: I eat, poe and ... ubuntu ;)
[21:30] <michael_tn> lol
[21:30] <Psi-Jack> Where does Ubuntu keep it's shutdown scripts, outside of /etc/init and /etc/init.d?
[21:30] <michael_tn> orchestra manages the hardware infrastructures (dns/tftp/etc)
[21:30] <michael_tn> juju provides services (nova, http, etc)
[21:31] <michael_tn> at least that is how i perceive it
[21:32] <MatBoy> michael_tn: ok, both webbased ? I mean GUI
[21:32] <michael_tn> yup
[21:32] <MatBoy> michael_tn: but you also can use juju seperate ?
[21:33] <michael_tn> i would think so, if you provision your servers correctly
[21:33] <michael_tn> https://juju.ubuntu.com/
[21:34] <MatBoy> michael_tn: yes busy with setting up a new cluster I want to manage such way
[21:34] <wonderman> Psi-Jack: if i setup a cronjob, say  >  1=0 0 * * * curl --silent --compressed "http://domain.com/file.php". i used 'crontab -e' to add it, then i restarted cron  'sudo /etc/init.d/cron restart'  anything else i need to do? because its not working :(
[21:34] <MatBoy> most things I dev my own... bt running out of time
[21:34] <michael_tn> same here
[21:34] <michael_tn> and i am most familiar with centos based HPC clusters, not ubuntu openstack :-)
[21:35] <Psi-Jack> wonderman: That forum posting says it's effected by "shutdown -h now" and "shutdown -P now", -h will cause grub to NOT have a timeout, while -P will cause it to have a timeout.
[21:35] <wonderman> wrong name? :P
[21:35] <Psi-Jack> Probably. :)
[21:36] <wonderman> sorry, i directed the question at you, because you are active atm and probably can help
[21:36] <MatBoy> michael_tn: OK... installing it :)
[21:36] <Psi-Jack> I'm investigating other issues. :p
[21:36] <MatBoy> michael_tn: i don't like the redhat way anymore since years
[21:36] <wonderman> ive waited 2 days, to test this lol, because i cant see another way of finding out if it works
[21:36] <wonderman> obviously i could make the cron shorter, doh!
[21:37] <wonderman> dont need to be root to run curl do i?, the command works from shell
[21:39] <yakster> ne one her know how to un-delete complete folders on a usb drive?
[21:40] <rbasak> Psi-Jack: that sounds serious but I can't reproduce it. I just tried both "sudo reboot" and "shutdown -h now" five times in succession. grub (2) menu times out and boots each time. Although I am using a -virtual kernel. Do you have steps to reproduce?
[21:40] <MatBoy> rbasak: use photorec
[21:41] <MatBoy> yakster: ^^
[21:41] <yakster> there not photos
[21:41] <MatBoy> yakster: rtfm
[21:41] <yakster> rtfm?
[21:41]  * MatBoy slams his head
[21:41] <yakster> nm
[21:41] <MatBoy> yakster: use google!
[21:41] <yakster> well thanks….
[21:42] <yakster> I would have Never thought of that….. I was looking for suggestions….. but never mind….
[21:42] <MatBoy> michael_tn: I think the provisioning might be nice :)
[21:42] <Psi-Jack> rbasak: I'm trying to find ways to cause it to trigger now, actually.
[21:42] <MatBoy> yakster: google on photorec
[21:42] <MatBoy> damn, how difficult can it be
[21:42] <michael_tn> MatBoy: yes, the orchestra part is nice
[21:42] <Myrtti> MatBoy: that's not really helpful, if you have nothing else to say than "use google" or rtfm...
[21:43] <michael_tn> even more so if you hardware can deal with wake-on-lan
[21:43] <MatBoy> Myrtti: I have gave him photorec... we are not some sort of... take my hand and do it for me channel
[21:43] <MatBoy> michael_tn: yes... with vmware it is for sure :D
[21:44] <michael_tn> nod nod
[21:44] <MatBoy> michael_tn: mhh... nagios ? ouch.... no!
[21:44] <michael_tn> yes!
[21:44] <michael_tn> lol
[21:44]  * MatBoy is slamming his too heavy loaded ESXi box :D
[21:45] <MatBoy> nagios is not what I have loved in years
[21:45] <michael_tn> ganglia?
[21:46] <MatBoy> michael_tn: what is the url or port it runs on ?
[21:47] <MatBoy> michael_tn: zabbix ;)
[21:47] <MatBoy> which I didn't like also :D
[21:47] <MatBoy> it's all too much of "it"
[21:48] <Psi-Jack> Blah.
[21:48] <Psi-Jack> I can't seem to manually trigger it.
[21:48] <MatBoy> ah... cobbler_web
[21:49] <michael_tn> nod
[21:49] <michael_tn> cobbler_web
[21:49] <michael_tn> i'm out of here, later all
[21:49] <MatBoy> michael_tn: just a sec
[21:50] <michael_tn> lol
[21:50] <MatBoy> michael_tn: can you add existing servers ?
[21:50] <michael_tn> no
[21:50] <michael_tn> well
[21:51] <michael_tn> orchestra tftp boots/clean installs everything
[21:51] <MatBoy> mhh
[21:51] <michael_tn> nod
[21:51] <MatBoy> michael_tn: where is juju located ?
[21:51] <michael_tn> juju is not installed yet
[21:51] <MatBoy> I have installed it ;)
[21:51] <michael_tn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/OrchestraJuju
[21:51] <MatBoy> ok
[21:51] <MatBoy> thanks
[21:52] <MatBoy> now go to bed... you have to work early in Holland ;)
[21:52] <michael_tn> laterz
[21:53] <Psi-Jack> Hmm
[21:53] <Psi-Jack> I'm gonna install a non-production VM with 11.10, and see if I can somehow reproduce the issue with grub not auto-booting.
[21:56] <rbasak> Psi-Jack: thanks for investigating. If you find a way to reproduce it, please can you file a bug and let me know the bug number so that I can test?
[21:56] <Psi-Jack> rbasak: Absolutely.
[21:56] <rbasak> Thanks!
[21:57] <Psi-Jack> rbasak: It's a major issue that SHOULD be fixed before 12.04 LTS is out for sure. I installed 11.10 for my firewall and LVS directors because I intended to upgrade to 12.04 when it becomes available.
[22:23] <||arifaX> I am on Ubuntu server 10.04, I have enabled the partner repository but still not sun-java6-jdk. Any ideas?
[22:52] <infidel> i need help setting up a Dell PE2650
[22:54] <LeChacal> infiedl: what part of setting up
[22:55] <infidel> trying to figure out EMS. DRAC. BMC
[22:55] <infidel> for remote monitoring
[22:56] <infidel> do i  have to initially access via serial?
[22:57] <infidel> is there a way to install the firmware through ubuntu?
[22:58] <LeChacal> sorry i am not going to be a whole lot of help I have no experience with dells remote access systems
[22:59] <infidel> thanks for listening
[23:09] <pmatulis_> should just work
[23:09] <diplo> infidel, not installed ubuntu on a dell for a long time but have you looked here ?
[23:09] <diplo> http://linux.dell.com/
[23:10] <infidel> yeah, seems like there are just for the newer servers
[23:10] <infidel> but thanks
[23:10] <diplo> as pmatulis_  last time i installed / set up a 2950 it all just worked from memory
[23:10] <diplo> 26 is a bit older though
[23:11] <infidel> it seems the only way to do it is on the older versions of RHEL and SUSE
[23:14] <binaryhat> everytime i power up or reboot, grub does not automatically boot into the first option...i have to hit enter
[23:21] <binaryhat> ??
[23:23] <diplo> Done an upgrade recently binaryhat ?
[23:23] <diplo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1598854
[23:24] <diplo> Seen a couple of posts and all recommend sudo update-grub
[23:24] <binaryhat> i have #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0  thats y
[23:24] <diplo> :)