[00:37] <z1l0g> hola
[00:37] <z1l0g> Anyone here still using Lucid?
[00:40] <tgm4883> I do in some places
[00:40] <tgm4883> on my mythtv backend and my server
[00:42] <z1l0g> ah okay.  I just ran system update and apparently it uninstalled openoffice.
[00:43] <z1l0g> and it doesn't seem to want me to re-install it :/
[00:43] <tgm4883> z1l0g, did it install libreoffice?
[00:43] <z1l0g> you're probably not having this issue on your servers ;)
[00:44] <tgm4883> z1l0g, I don't have that on my servers
[00:44] <z1l0g> no, didn't install LibreOffice.
[00:44] <tgm4883> hmm
[00:44] <tgm4883> sec
[00:45] <z1l0g> it's odd since ubuntu states that it was going to provide critical updates to OOo until april 2013
[00:45] <tgm4883> do you have any PPA's installed?
[00:45] <z1l0g> yes, there are PPAs for Libreoffice and Firefox
[00:46] <tgm4883> well, why are you trying to install openoffice if you have the libreoffice PPA?
[00:47] <z1l0g> er, well there's a "Firefox Stable Channel Packages" entry in the Software Center panel
[00:47] <tgm4883> ok, so what happens if you try to install openoffice?
[00:48] <z1l0g> I think I may have added that in preparation but never tried to install LibreOffice
[00:48] <tgm4883> honestly, I'd just install libreoffice rather than figure out why openoffice won't install
[00:49] <z1l0g> I get a "Package dependencies cannot be resolved" error
[00:50] <z1l0g> yeah, for me it doesn't matter. I support others who are actively using OOo though and I'm getting questions as to why it's suddenly missing
[00:50] <tgm4883> z1l0g, don't do a partial upgrade
[00:50] <tgm4883> then it won't be missing
[00:51] <tgm4883> but if you want to troubleshoot it, try installing it from the command line and see what it can't resolve
[00:51] <z1l0g> oh, maybe that's what happened.  I saw something about "Partial upgrade" pop up
[00:51] <tgm4883> yea, don't do partial upgrades unless you're absolutely sure you know what you're doing
[00:52] <z1l0g> tried using apt-get install and it will mention various depencancies that are needed and _won't_ be installed...
[00:52] <tgm4883> z1l0g, pastebin the output
[00:52] <z1l0g> heh, well it sure wasn't presented as a "this can ferk up your system" option :/
[00:53] <z1l0g> no doubt there's gonna be a bunch more posts come Monday
[00:53] <z1l0g> jus a sec
[00:54] <tgm4883> z1l0g, honestly, it was probably caused by your PPA's
[00:55] <z1l0g>  http://pastebin.com/xQY9fnh2
[00:55] <z1l0g> so, do I uninstall the LibreOffice PPA?
[00:58] <tgm4883> z1l0g, hmm, looks like it should be fine
[00:58] <tgm4883> have you done an 'apt-get update'?
[00:58] <z1l0g> yes
[00:59] <z1l0g> I'm fine with removing the LibreOffice PPA, just not sure how
[01:00] <tgm4883> apt-add-repository -r <ppaname>
[01:01] <z1l0g> okay, thanks.  I'll try that to see if it fixes things
[01:10] <z1l0g> okay, removed it from the synaptic package manager and clicked Reload.  apt-get install openoffice.org still fails; even trying to install the base pkg fails
[01:10] <z1l0g> oh, ran apt-get update too
[01:11] <z1l0g> guess there's no "revert to previous state' in ubuntu eh?
[01:16] <z1l0g> is there a way to rebuild the "installed pkgs" DB?  It seems to think it's installed still but all the OOo binaries are missing
[01:18]  * z1l0g guesses he has asked too many questions ;)
[01:18] <z1l0g> maybe I drag this thing sown to tomorrow's PLUG clinic
[01:19] <z1l0g> thanks
[07:14] <bkerensa> Hello All
[07:14] <bkerensa> :D
[07:16] <bkerensa> slangasek: What are your thoughts on having a bootable debian usb stick with storage for purposes of debian package building?
[08:39] <goddard> hiya
[21:18] <c_smith_> hello
[21:23] <c_smith__> c_smith_tmp
[21:23] <c_smith__> oops\
[21:23] <c_smith__> bkerensa: are you available?
[21:31] <c_smith__> okay, here's to hoping that my connetion stays stable for a while.
[21:32] <c_smith__> bkerensa: may I get you to look at a post I'm working on on my blog?
[21:33] <c_smith__> I've got what I want to get out done.
[21:37] <c_smith_> hmmmm, seems bkerensa isn't here.
[21:45] <c_smith> anyone here?
[21:45] <c_smith> finally figured out how to get chatzilla to work with the znc server.
[21:47] <c_smith> seems kinda dead here.
[21:47]  * c_smith better go.
[23:56] <goddard> when is the next meeting?