[00:00] <blud> Freemem: I'll check it out
[00:00] <blud> hiexpo: intel
[00:00] <FreeMem> Intel® 852/855 Chipset Family   perhaps
[00:00] <FreeMem> I am guessing
[00:00] <FreeMem> see if we can find more info
[00:00] <zykotick9> blud: "lspci | grep -i vga" to find you video card
[00:00] <skypent> How would I got about exporting private key information from gpg to another computer not connected through a network (usb or cd methods of transport)
[00:01] <Cube``> guys, what might be the problem? http://paste.pound-python.org/show/16886/
[00:01] <FreeMem> Hers' the source I tink  http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html
[00:01] <blud> zykotick9: it just says what i have been saying  Intel Corp 82852/855M integrated graphics device
[00:01] <zyracksis> Anyone seen anything like this before?
[00:01] <zyracksis> \
[00:01] <zykotick9> blud: FYI things will be better in the long run if you solve your issue using Ubuntu package vs. installing a driver manually
[00:01] <zyracksis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1927440
[00:01] <FreeMem> Intel® 82852/82855 Graphics Controller Family
[00:02] <FreeMem> it's it I hit it
[00:02] <FreeMem> both
[00:02] <FreeMem> Intel® 852/855 Chipset Family
[00:02] <FreeMem> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=13815&ProdId=1862%E2%8C%A9=eng
[00:02] <blud> zykotick9: i would be happy to do that, any idea how? :p
[00:02] <dassouki> using terminal how can I change another user's pwd?
[00:02] <zykotick9> blud: nope, sorry.
[00:02] <Random832> I have a website bug to report
[00:02] <FreeMem> their drivers I guess cover many cards at once
[00:03] <bastidrazor> dassouki: sudo passwd user
[00:03] <blud> FreeMem: is there a way to check what drive i have now and if its any different than the one you're suggesting I install?
[00:03] <Random832> http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu - the pronunciation key has incorrect notation (unless the pronunciation is very different from what I had understood it to be)
[00:03] <Cube``> guys, my ssh server suddently stopped working!! http://paste.pound-python.org/show/16886/
[00:03] <dassouki> thansk
[00:03] <hiexpo> whta version of ubuntu blud
[00:03] <blud> mythbuntu 10.04
[00:03] <FreeMem> blud is your computer still have a desktop?
[00:04] <FreeMem> not media center desktop
[00:04] <zykotick9> FreeMem: mythbuntu uses xfce
[00:04] <blud> FreeMem: yeah its xfce, just a desktop
[00:04] <picolo> Boa noite
[00:04] <hiexpo> blud, maybe look at this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-intel-82852855gm-drivers-in-ubuntu-using-ppa.html
[00:04] <Random832> it should use the double-wide macron and breve
[00:04] <picolo> ops hauhahuauha
[00:05] <FreeMem> apt-get something to display the hardware.  I don't know which.
[00:05] <Random832> (or IPA)
[00:05] <dassouki> bastidrazor: thanks :)
[00:05] <FreeMem> I don't run a mythbuntu
[00:05] <bastidrazor> dassouki: you're welcome
[00:05] <amalgama> unfortunately the problem stands..though the normal terminal supports characters ofanother language, unfortunately ctrl_alt_f1 console doesnt....
[00:05] <blud> hiexpo: that looks pretty good. Of course I am terrified of just ruining my computer and having no video output lol
[00:05] <FreeMem> I run apt-get and midnight commander
[00:05] <Random832> amalgama: what language do you want support for?
[00:05] <mcl0vin> hello. ubuntu 10.10 am trying to install lamp-server but nothing get install at all ?! folowing this "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP"
[00:06] <FreeMem> I'll look
[00:06] <amalgama> Random832: greek... the reason is i run irssi and finch through concole ctrl+alt+f1, and i need to be able to change languages, and of course, the languages to be supported
[00:06] <zykotick9> mcl0vin: "sudo tasksel"?
[00:06] <hiexpo> blud, thats part of linux no guts no glory
[00:06] <mcl0vin> zykotick9: did that
[00:06] <blud> lol well tbh linux is a huge pain in the guts ...
[00:06] <blud> :p
[00:07] <Random832> ...what all character ranges does the default console font on ubuntu support, anyway? it doesn't seem to be latin1-only
[00:07] <FreeMem> blud: Im still looking for ya
[00:07] <blud> FreeMem: cool, im gonna brb in a bit
[00:07] <hiexpo> blud, actually it is pretty simple once you learn it > and easier to control >
[00:07] <Random832> in particular, greek seems to work for me
[00:08] <Random832> amalgama: are you in a UTF-8 locale?
[00:08] <exutux> zyracksis: whats wrong on your desktop pictures? those are a simple script/text files
[00:08] <Random832> like el_GR.UTF-8
[00:08] <amalgama> Random832: how can i check that? :) .. to repeat myself, the normal terminal works just fine...
[00:08] <ciupanezul> hi....can somebody help me
[00:09] <ciupanezul> withs Wi-Fi on ubuntu 10.04 ?:|
[00:09] <Random832> amalgama: type "locale", what does it say LC_CTYPE
[00:09] <exutux> zykotick9: those are txr files icons
[00:09] <exutux> txt*
[00:09] <hiexpo> blud, i would try that  ppa
[00:09] <ciupanezul> ??
[00:09] <zykotick9> exutux: nick fail i believe ;)
[00:09] <ciupanezul> nobody?
[00:10] <exutux> zykotick9: sorry :| he's gone
[00:10] <Random832> amalgama: also, what does your console look like? is it in a small font with thin lines, or a big fat bold font?
[00:10] <Random832> (and how many rows and columns?)
[00:10] <zykotick9> exutux: all good ;) i do it all the time
[00:10] <Random832> amalgama: when i say "console" that means the c-a-f1 etc
[00:10] <hiexpo> blud, i am using 10.04 also and i have a lot of ppa's  and they usually work out ok especially for video drivers
[00:10] <exutux> amalgama: did you type loadkeys command how I suggested you above?
[00:11] <ReKoN> oke guy's very helpfull:)
[00:11] <ReKoN> =))
[00:11] <Random832> wait a minute
[00:11] <exutux> amalgama: sudo loadkeys fr
[00:11] <Random832> are you having trouble _seeing_ greek or _typing_ in greek?
[00:11] <amalgama> Random832: in ctrl+alt+f1 console returns en_us_utf-8, in terminal the same, and i would say thin lines, small fonts..
[00:12] <amalgama> exutux: if i type sudo loadkeys gr, then the characters are shown as symbolson the console and also i cannothange the language back, which means i cannot retype sudo loadkeys :)
[00:12] <Lint> amalgama, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[00:12] <ReKoN> Just 1 question ,to know...if i stay or no...Sombody know to resolve the Problem With Wireless at ubuntu 10.04 ? or Nope.
[00:12] <ReKoN> o.0?
[00:13] <Random832> amalgama: how do you normally type in latin letters on a greek keyboard? is ther like an alt or ctrl shift or caps lock? or do you have to switch layouts to US?
[00:13] <exutux> amalgama: so I think you need to set utf on irssi then
[00:13] <blud> hiexpo: what's a ppa ?
[00:13] <amalgama> Random832: have to switch layouts...
[00:13] <Lint> amalgama, also setxkbmap us,gr -option grp:alt_shift_toggle
[00:13] <ReKoN> or where is Windows .inf  i can't finde that:| omg;|
[00:13] <blud> also, hiexpo: yeah i know linux is good.. but.. i have sunk uncalculable hours into trying to make this media pc
[00:14] <hiexpo> blud, a ppa is a repository
[00:14] <blud> ah ok
[00:14] <Random832> amalgama: to fix it or now you can do loadkeys us from X11
[00:14] <FreeMem> blud: my oracle vm display driver ain't helpin me help you
[00:14] <Random832> (i.e. go back to ctrl-alt-f7)
[00:14] <zykotick9> !ppa | blud
[00:15] <ReKoN> nobody can help ...?:|:|
[00:15] <FreeMem> blud, take your time and make sure you control each part you set up
[00:15] <blud> so, hiexpo once i do this, if i reboot and X can't load anymore, how can i revert to the old driver?
[00:17] <blud> yeah i mean in fairness to Linux, the only real reason it has been such a pain in the ass is because im trying to do odd things like make an old ass ATI remote control work, etc
[00:17] <OccupynMyChair> good day everyone, quick beginner question, "free -m" shows 100% memory usage and almost 50% of it is cache. where should i look to adjust/limit the file system cache since this is an appserver? thank you
[00:17] <ReKoN> great......nobody nothing:|
[00:17] <zykotick9> !atemyram | OccupynMyChair
[00:17] <blud> sorry ReKoN  i don't know about wireless .. mine just worked automatically
[00:18] <ReKoN> what kinde of ubuntu ver you have?
[00:18] <FreeMem> blud try this lspci | grep VGA
[00:18] <blud> mythbuntu 10.04
[00:18] <ReKoN> 32 ? or 64
[00:19] <Random832> amalgama: i've asked in ##linux if anyone knows
[00:19] <blud> yeah FreeMem we talked about this hehe, it's Intel 82852/855GM integrated graphics
[00:19] <blud> 32
[00:19] <ReKoN> do you have a link from where to download ,maybe mine is bugged.
[00:19] <ReKoN> damaged....or someting like that...
[00:19] <ReKoN> me i have 64bit.
[00:19] <zykotick9> md5 | ReKoN
[00:19] <FreeMem> blud try just lspci and look for a video driver
[00:20] <blud> ? ubuntu.com?
[00:20] <zykotick9> !md5 | ReKoN
[00:20] <amalgama> Random832: thanx !! i amtrying to see if i can get it to work through dpkg-configure console
[00:20] <OccupynMyChair> thanks zykotick9; reason being when i load up wireshark and try to start browing through pcap files the system grinds to a halt...
[00:20] <FreeMem> lspci
[00:20] <FreeMem> look for a driver
[00:20] <Random832> amalgama: the problem is that most people don't need multiple keyboard layouts
[00:20] <Random832> in languages that use the latin alphabet
[00:20] <blud> yup
[00:20] <zykotick9> OccupynMyChair: do you happen to be using KDE?
[00:20] <Random832> but with greek you can't type "loadkeys us" to switch
[00:21] <amalgama> Random832: true! and, unfortunately,true!
[00:21] <OccupynMyChair> zykotick9; gnome
[00:21] <blud> FreeMem: yeah it's probably this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-intel-82852855gm-drivers-in-ubuntu-using-ppa.html
[00:21] <zykotick9> OccupynMyChair: well, that uses less the KDE.  How much RAM do you have?  32 or 64bit Ubuntu?
[00:21] <z1l0g> hola
[00:21] <blud> I just have one question for the channel,  If I install a new video driver and it breaks my system, (how) can I roll back??
[00:21] <FreeMem> blud: when I do a lspci and grep/look for my driver I get this 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
[00:21] <Erealz> im i need help id like to know what video playback driver ubuntu uses ?
[00:21] <zykotick9> !es | z1l0g
[00:22] <z1l0g> Anyone know why the last distro upgrade of Lucid uninstalled OpenOffice.org?
[00:22] <blud> FreeMem: yeah, I get this: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[00:22] <FreeMem> PERFECT!!!
[00:22] <FreeMem> Wee haa
[00:23] <FreeMem> that's it!
[00:23] <z1l0g> ANd it won't let me re-install it?
[00:23] <FreeMem> download a new one and reinstall it.
[00:23] <blud> FreeMem: dude.. i've been saying that for like 15 minutes like 4 times :p
[00:23] <exutux> Random832: if him put loadkeys us command on boot? on rc.local ?
[00:23] <Jordan_U> z1l0g: Because the community has moved toward the Free Document Foundation's Libre Office (which for most practical purposes is the same).
[00:23] <blud> Yeah my question was where or how do i download a new one? Apparently the answer is :  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-intel-82852855gm-drivers-in-ubuntu-using-ppa.html
[00:24] <shammancer> Hello all, I was fooling around while theming my desktop now I have a menu bar on my desktop.
[00:24] <OccupynMyChair> zykotick9;64-bit, 2GB of RAM
[00:24] <Erealz> hi im running vlc on a ubuntu based system. however whenever i try and open a video with vlc it wont run im guessing this is becouse my system dosnt have the right driver can some one tell me what these driver are called so i apt-get them?!
[00:24] <ReKoN> 1 question and i leave you guy's:) ubuntu 11.10 it's much better ? ,i mean it's all bugs fixed?
[00:24] <pangolin> ReKoN: no
[00:24] <zykotick9> OccupynMyChair: with less then 4GB of ram you will get minimal benefit from 64BIT and it will use MORE memory then 32bit.
[00:24] <blud> but anyways, my question now is  If I install a new video driver and it breaks my system, (how) can I roll back??
[00:25] <z1l0g> Well, Ubuntu says it was goinf to support OOo until April 2013 w/ critical updates; I have users you are asking why OOo is suddenly mising from thier menus
[00:25] <FreeMem> blud you don't
[00:25] <FreeMem> you try again
[00:25] <FreeMem> ;o)
[00:25] <blud> but how can i try again if i cant even get into it
[00:25] <blud> lol
[00:25] <Erealz> hi im running vlc on a ubuntu based system. however whenever i try and open a video with vlc it wont run im guessing this is becouse my system dosnt have the right driver can some one tell me what these driver are called so i apt-get them?!
[00:25] <zykotick9> OccupynMyChair: but it depends what you are doing, if it's a lot of video/music encoding 64bit is still "probably" better
[00:25] <pangolin> Erealz: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:26] <exutux> Random832: I use that "solution" on some servers
[00:26] <FreeMem> it's not like it's a secret which driver you have.  apt-get uninstall --flush whatever and reinstall.  You need to have more confidence
[00:26] <FreeMem> either the software screwed up or that TV is fried or your video card is fried
[00:26] <FreeMem> seperate it
[00:26] <zykotick9> pangolin: i didn't think VLC relied on external codecs?
[00:26] <blud> not an issue of confidence... an issue of knowledge
[00:26] <ReKoN> then pangolin ...tell me witch is more better...then this versions of ubuntu..
[00:26] <blud> i dont even know what apt-get uninstall --flush does
[00:26] <exutux> amalgama: can you try to put loadkeys us at the to /etc/rc.local before exit 0 and then rebbot?
[00:26] <FreeMem> apt-get /?
[00:26] <pangolin> zykotick9: hmm, don't know now
[00:27] <exutux> reboot*
[00:27] <Lint> exutux, he's greek dammit
[00:27] <Random832> exutux: er, the problem is he has to be able to use two keyboard layouts at runtime, and one doesn't let him type in commands
[00:27] <pangolin> ReKoN: there is no version that is better. Bugs will always be present in software so it is impossible to say it is bug free.
[00:27] <exutux> Lint: on X he can switch language, doesn't he?
[00:27] <OccupynMyChair> zykotick9; yeah, i hear ya on the <4GB bit, but this a just a game server, each instance using about 900MB, but to catch the hackers I gotta sniff packets and filter the captures from time to time... and yes, plenty of HDD space left still...
[00:27] <Erealz> pangolin i just apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras  E: invalid operation ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:27] <Random832> exutux: greek keyboard doesn't have latin letters available, so he can't type "loadkeys" he's stuck with λοαδκευσ
[00:28] <exutux> Random832: oh well
[00:28] <Random832> ...right but that's not a good solution, he wants to be able to _use_ the console
[00:28] <blud> if i install a new graphics driver and its bad, how do I install the one I originally had? Or simply, how could i just install the driver i have right now, right now? like I have no idea what the command is, waht i would be apt-getting, etc
[00:28] <pangolin> Erealz: apt-get install
[00:28] <zykotick9> OccupynMyChair: <joking> get more RAM </joking> Good luck man!
[00:28] <exutux> Lint: so my bad.. :D
[00:28] <amalgama> Random832: lol, exactly
[00:28] <OccupynMyChair> heh
[00:28] <Random832> really, this is poor design
[00:29] <amalgama> Random832: but also, in the alt+ctrl+f1 console, greek letter dont even appear.. its just symbols, squares or sth
[00:29] <exutux> so buy a real keyboard! lol
[00:29] <Erealz> nevermind got bro
[00:29] <Erealz> thanx
[00:29] <OccupynMyChair> zykotick9; thanks again for the URLs
[00:29] <Random832> on windows, russian and hebrew keyboards have latin if you have caps lock on
[00:29] <zykotick9> OccupynMyChair: glad to "almost" help ;)
[00:29] <FreeMem> blud I got to be honest, the first thing I do when building a box is sudo (password) apt-get install sux that way I don't have to mess with sudo anymore, then I use sux instead of sudo, then I get busy apt-get installing  apt-cache searching if you have X running synaptic &   'ding
[00:29] <ReKoN> 1 thing i don't understand i was searching on website about wi-fi netowork ,i wass install ndisgtk package
[00:29] <Jabadu> hi, can somebody help me how i create an iso image of a cd?
[00:29] <Random832> amalgama: well that's a font issue, and i really don't know how to help you since it works for me
[00:30] <FreeMem> when I get done apt-get remove sux
[00:30] <Random832> (i can see greek fine)
[00:30] <ReKoN> but i don't finde location of mine Windows .inf file.
[00:30] <zykotick9> Jabadu: "cat /dev/cdrom > filename.iso" might work
[00:30] <blud> so can i go in synaptic, search for intel and see what package for my driver i have installed??
[00:30] <blud> gonna try now..
[00:30] <FreeMem> blud yep
[00:30] <FreeMem> sorry so simple
[00:30] <amalgama> Random832: thanx for trying! u and everybody else... i ll try to find a solution through google, or sth.. i ll post it here if i succeed ...
[00:30] <zykotick9> Jabadu: you do mean data cd right?
[00:30] <Jabadu> zykotick9 ill try
[00:31] <FreeMem> but you will take notes I KNOW it
[00:31] <blud> assume i know nothing because thats close to the truth
[00:31] <Jabadu> yes, its a game cd
[00:31] <FreeMem> and teach mom
[00:31] <OccupynMyChair> thanks again!
[00:31] <zykotick9> Jabadu: ok, just making sure you didn't mean audio - as you can't make ISO of audio cds
[00:31] <ReKoN> 4.Select Install new driver.  5.Choose the location of your Windows .inf file and click Install.
[00:32] <ReKoN> where i finde that windows .inf :|
[00:32] <FreeMem> blud you knew what synaptic was, you knew youir card was, you are a divign human, you are quite capable
[00:32] <Lint> ReKoN, on driver disk
[00:32] <fOOfsta> hey guys anyone know any good tutorials on usong multiple ssh keys to automatically authenticate against connecting to various servers
[00:32] <ReKoN> i have installed from a USB Stick this ubuntu.
[00:32] <blud> FreeMem: I still had no idea how to install a ?better? driver for it, And I still have no idea how I would revert to the previous driver if the new one causes me problems
[00:33] <zykotick9> FreeMem: except when they try to remove the driver it might try to remove Xorg/Gnome/entire system... blud
[00:33] <ReKoN> and the ubuntu  it wass a iso downloaded from torrent
[00:33] <FreeMem> blud ya could always reinstall mythbuntu as well bro.  Those drivers got in there somehow
[00:33] <blud> these are like.. stock drivers..  this is what mytbuntu installed automatically
[00:34] <FreeMem> download and reburn mythbuntu and reinstall
[00:34] <zykotick9> lol
[00:34] <blud> i have spend insane hours tweaking and getting thigns working on here, no way in hell im gonna format and reinstall mythbuntu and lose all that
[00:34] <FreeMem> eliminate something.  Software or hardware
[00:34] <blud> dude.. idk man,
[00:34] <blud> i told you
[00:34] <FreeMem> if it's software you need your install disk
[00:34] <blud> that only 1 display comes up
[00:34] <blud> that it says Display 1: UNCLAIMED and no driver listed
[00:34] <FreeMem> if it's hardware you need $19.95
[00:35] <blud> to me thats a pretty strong clue
[00:35] <Jabadu> zykotick9 its a backup cd of a game called sims. im not sure if its copyprotected. i tried it with dd command but that just createt a 30 mb iso file. the cd has 700 mb ...
[00:35] <blud> that there just is no driver installed for the vga out
[00:35] <FreeMem> maybe it don't work
[00:35] <zykotick9> Jabadu: "The Sims" is copyright FOR SURE.  I'm not gonna help.  Good luck (but not really).
[00:35] <blud> if the hardware doesnt work, the software shoudl at least still see it...
[00:36] <hiexpo> !copyright
[00:36] <FreeMem> blud hah try dumping coffee into a server
[00:36] <Jabadu> ? what kind of help is that. im not asking for anything illigal
[00:36] <FreeMem> I seen all kinds of weird
[00:36] <blud> anyways, the package for my current driver is 'xserver-xorg-video-intel'
[00:36] <FreeMem> floating rack servers
[00:36] <hiexpo> !infringement
[00:36] <FreeMem> smoking rack svrs
[00:36] <blud> now im gonna get xserver-xorg-video-intel  from this other PPA
[00:36] <zykotick9> hiexpo: !warez should work ;)
[00:36] <blud> if it messes up
[00:37] <Erealz> question if i installed vlc and it wont run/load what could be missing on the system that might couse that?
[00:37] <blud> how can i go back?
[00:37] <blud> Can i go back?
[00:37] <FreeMem> start with a basic reconfigure
[00:37] <blud> i dont even know what that means
[00:37] <FreeMem> what's the command again  ...
[00:37] <blud> Can i go back or not?
[00:37] <hiexpo> zykotick9, just seeing if we have a factoid
[00:37] <blud> lol
[00:37] <FreeMem> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:37] <zykotick9> !warez
[00:37] <ubuntu__girl> thanks everyone
[00:38] <blud> why would i do that freemem, whats that do
[00:38] <FreeMem> setup your video card
[00:38] <FreeMem> you said how to get back
[00:38] <FreeMem> that's getting back
[00:38] <blud> oh ok
[00:38] <zykotick9> blud: there is some ppa-purge command/script out there that can remove PPA and the software installed.
[00:39] <FreeMem> basic vga then you build on it
[00:39] <Lint> zykotick9, making CD's backup copy is a legal right, not piracy
[00:39] <zykotick9> blud: i'm not sure on the actual name
[00:39] <zykotick9> Lint: that entirely depends on where you live
[00:40] <Jabadu>  just because you ment its important to write it back. im answering same way now. in the country i live in its legal to create a copy for privat use. The eula is not law in my country.
[00:40] <blud> zykotick9: ok thank you! finally an answer to this lol... I googled a page that fully explains it. Now I can try the new driver and be able to revert if need be
[00:40] <blud> thanks for your time guys
[00:40] <FreeMem> blud rocking bro
[00:41] <tekkidd> What version of Ubuntu ran on the 2.6.35-24 kernel
[00:42] <Erealz> question if i installed vlc and it wont run/load what could be missing on the system that might couse that?
[00:42] <damo22> tekkidd: cat /etc/lsb-release
[00:42] <jordan_> hello
[00:42] <Lint> tekkidd, packages.ubuntu.com
[00:42] <jordan_> does anyone know why ubuntu's codecs make video editing pixelated?
[00:43] <jordan_> as in if i open openshot then it will be pixelated
[00:43] <zykotick9> damo22: some systems that don't have a /etc/lsb-release file will show version with the proper command, "lsb_release -a"
[00:44] <damo22> ok
[00:44] <jordan_> anyone?
[00:46] <FreeMem> jordan cop blur
[00:46] <FreeMem> blur
[00:46] <jordan_> what?
[00:46] <FreeMem> or a masked hard blur
[00:46] <jordan_> no no no
[00:46] <jordan_> as in..if i try to view a video on openshot..it will be pixelated
[00:46] <jordan_> is there a codec or nvidia driver issue?
[00:47] <FreeMem> Bug #502524 in OpenShot Video Editor: “.ogv video is pixelated
[00:47] <zykotick9> jordan_: if video players play the file without pixelation, its an openshot issue
[00:47] <FreeMem> convert the .ogv to another format eh?
[00:47] <jordan_> OH ..ok i will try that
[00:48] <Erealz> question if i installed vlc and it wont run/load what could be missing on the system that might couse that?
[00:48] <famthegeek> codecses
[00:48] <Erealz> iv installed em
[00:49] <FreeMem> reinstalling is fun
[00:49] <Erealz> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:49] <FreeMem> just sayin
[00:49] <zykotick9> Erealz: from terminal try "vlc" do you get error(s)?
[00:49] <_313hummer> i have restricted extras..i even have made a tut on that lmao..its just idk why this is screwed up in 11.10
[00:49] <_313hummer> know any good converters for video?
[00:50] <Erealz> i was just about to try that hold on.....
[00:50] <FreeMem> _313hummer: theres many
[00:50] <bluej774> Can anyone tell me why this makefile doesn't work?  http://pastebin.com/48S0PJxJ
[00:50] <_313hummer> any that are multi threaded?
[00:50] <FreeMem> http://handbrake.fr/
[00:51] <zykotick9> handbrake is amazing!
[00:51] <_313hummer> would devede work?
[00:51] <FreeMem> http://opensourcevideoconverters.com/
[00:51] <FreeMem> mir vlc handbrake winff
[00:52] <FreeMem> or windows  (if your workflow allows it)
[00:52] <FreeMem> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software
[00:55] <FreeMem> Flash Memory, Not Networks, Hamper Smartphones Most  - hahaha slashdot
[00:56] <RenatoSilva> is there any tool to convert metacity themes to unity themes?
[00:56] <isanta> hi󠁟
[00:56] <RenatoSilva> is there any gui tool to create unity themes? I have a metacity theme and I don't want to migrate it manually
[00:56] <zykotick9> RenatoSilva: is there any tool to convert apples to oranges?
[00:56] <RenatoSilva> zykotick9: no
[00:57] <RenatoSilva> zykotick9: 'does anyone know' is implied???
[00:57] <Athanasius> !ops|isanta x-chat exploit
[00:57] <RenatoSilva> doesn't 'Gnome' allow minimizing windows?
[00:57] <FreeMem> does anyone know how to stop my university from agreeing to email monitoring for copyright agency?
[00:57] <Lint> what's xchat exploit?
[00:58] <FreeMem> lint means you can get exploited remotely
[00:58] <FreeMem> from your client
[00:58] <Blas> hi󠁟
[00:58] <RenatoSilva> brb
[00:58] <magicJ> I want to run 11.10 from a usb stick - I made it with "startup disk creator" works fine - the one thing I would like to do is dump the  choice of install/run when it boots - how do I do that?
[00:59] <zykotick9> magicJ: do a full install to the USB stick instead
[00:59] <FreeMem> magicJ: edit the grub/lilo
[01:00] <zykotick9> FreeMem: i don't think SDC uses grub (and certainly not lilo)
[01:00] <FreeMem> okay I don't know what it uses.
[01:00] <Jordan_U> zykotick9: FreeMem: Startup Disk Creator uses syslinux.
[01:00] <zykotick9> FreeMem: isolinux i believe
[01:00] <FreeMem> it should have a bootscreen text of some sort
[01:00] <zykotick9> syslinux sorry!  thanks Jordan_U
[01:00] <Jordan_U> zykotick9: You're welcome.
[01:01] <FreeMem> yeah like my raqcop uses no bootloader at all
[01:01] <FreeMem> I get it
[01:01] <magicJ> FreeMem: is grub/lilo a file I would see on the stick?
[01:01] <FreeMem> /etc/grub  maybe
[01:02] <FreeMem>  /etc/lilo
[01:02] <FreeMem> wont hurt to look
[01:02] <StevenR> how do I disable the "You have updates" X11 app that pops up when I have pending system updates? (I still want it to check, but it's a PITA when it pops up over mythtv)
[01:03] <magicJ> FreeMem: I see no file named lilo anywhere below /etc
[01:03] <FreeMem> it would be either lilo or grub or some other bootloader
[01:03] <zykotick9> StevenR: no help - but mythtv FTW!
[01:03] <FreeMem> on and not the other
[01:03] <FreeMem> one ^
[01:03] <FreeMem> unless you purposly installed both somehow
[01:04] <FreeMem> im thinking /etc/grub
[01:04] <zykotick9> magicJ: you aren't going to find grub or lilo actually
[01:04] <ubuntuUser987> test
[01:04] <FreeMem> I turn this over to zykotick9
[01:04] <zykotick9> FreeMem: BUT I'M NO HELP!!!
[01:05] <magicJ> zykotick9: ty, so, how do I get rid of the question "run or install" on that memory stick?
[01:05] <FreeMem> zykotick9: more than me
[01:05] <zykotick9> magicJ: do a full install to the USB stick instead
[01:05] <quazimod1> yo guys the package kdebindings isnt available in 11.10, where can i find out why? I believe i need this package atm
[01:05] <_313hummer> why thank you that worked very well for me
[01:06] <carlosdutra> hello guys, good evening
[01:07] <magicJ> zykotick9: sounds perfect - how would I do that?  I see no option to do it - but you are right that is what I want
[01:07] <zykotick9> magicJ: install from a CD (is possible, would require 2 USB keys if not) and choose the USB as install path
[01:08] <zykotick9> magicJ: full install to USB makes WAY more sense to me if you want persistance
[01:08] <Anastasius> High.
[01:09] <magicJ> I have two usb keys - that's not a problem but I do not remember ever being asked where to install to
[01:09] <Anastasius> Does anyone have a decent recipe for grilled elky?
[01:10] <Anastasius> Wow, this place is deader than heaven on a Saturday night.
[01:10] <Anastasius> CAN SOMEONE ANSWER MY QUESTION????
[01:10] <_Marcus> Anastasius: It's not that dead. I've seen it more silent.
[01:10] <deadmund> Anastasius: what is the question?
[01:10] <_Marcus> Anastasius: What is elky?
[01:10] <Anastasius> deadmund: Do you have a decent recipe for grilled elky?
[01:11] <skmpy_> deadmund: to be or not to be
[01:11] <_Marcus> Anastasius: What is elky?
[01:11] <NoCode> How do monkeys poo?
[01:11] <_Marcus> !ot | NoCode
[01:11] <Deithrian> Is there a Media Player that has "Next Frame" and "Previous Frame" options?
[01:12] <Jordan_U> Deithrian: I believe that both VLC and Mplayer do. Probably others as well.
[01:12] <Anastasius> Oh shit, elky isn't even here now!  Let me amend the question. Does anyone have a decent recipe for grilled bazhang?
[01:12] <Jordan_U> !ot | Anastasius
[01:12] <Deithrian> Jordan_U, no they don't VLC has only "Next Frame" and Mplayer seems not to work with the "."
[01:12] <Jordan_U> !language | Anastasius
[01:13] <Anastasius> Jordan_U: Keep your triggers to yourself.
[01:13] <Deithrian> It's driving me crazy :/ I tried Kmplayer, SMplayer, Mplayer, VLC none of them have a simple Frame Back and Frame forward :|
[01:14] <Anastasius> Yes, I saw them and I stand duly chastised. Good work.
[01:14] <RenatoSilva> how to change window decoration in oneiric's gnome classic?
[01:14] <Anastasius> Now answer the question.
[01:14] <Jordan_U> Anastasius: Please keep on topic and follow this channel's guidelines. This is your last warning.
[01:14] <brisky_> 'evening, i crash my ubuntu 11.10 with photorec cos i finish the space on my hd, now i starting with error that finish with cheching battery state, somebody know how to solve it?
[01:14] <Anastasius> Jordan_U: If I ignore that what will happen?
[01:14] <_Marcus> Anastasius: Maybe you didn't get what he was trying to say. This is UBUNTU SUPPORT channel.
[01:15] <NoCode> brisky_, sudo apt-get install windows
[01:15] <brisky_> no code  i guess is not right
[01:15] <sancris> anybody using 11.10 here?
[01:16] <RenatoSilva> me, and annoyed
[01:16] <_Marcus> I'm guessing 95%.
[01:16] <Raccoon1400> what is the command to launch the restricted drivers manager
[01:16] <sancris> well.. just did an update, flash is crashing as usual
[01:16] <Deithrian> flash is working great on Chrome here
[01:16] <sancris> not crashing, actually but it simply doesn't dowloado
[01:17] <sancris> update manager says t
[01:17] <FreeMem> sudo apt-get install *(cat paws and pop-up screen with selections)
[01:17] <Deithrian> does update manager say m too?
[01:17] <sancris> there's an update for flash, but when I hit Install it just gives me a "not found checkj you connection" message
[01:18] <aBound> I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 seems the flash update fixed a few crashes for me.
[01:18] <FreeMem> sancris check firewalls
[01:18] <sancris> all the other updates here went well, only flash refuses to install
[01:18] <FreeMem> ping adobe
[01:18] <Wabs> Anyone notice that flash in firefox running in 11.10 is a real system hog or is it something wrong with my system
[01:18] <zykotick9> Deithrian: mplayer certainly has a frame forward "." but i can't find a backwards
[01:19] <sancris> good idea
[01:19] <sancris> just a sec
[01:19] <aBound> sancris, Check your "Software Sources" within System Settings and click on the Other Software tab. To check if there are any conflicting PPAs that exist.
[01:19] <Raccoon1400> I can't find restricted drivers manager in the gnome menu, what is the package name?
[01:19] <RenatoSilva> Wabs: flash player crashed a few times here today
[01:19] <Deithrian> zykotick9, I know :( I need the backwards too because I'm hunting for elicit frames :(
[01:19] <pangolin> Raccoon1400: jockey
[01:20] <Deithrian> this dumbing down of all software is driving me nuts :( I hope all these devs get donkey kicked in the heads
[01:20] <zykotick9> Deithrian: i'm shocked there isn't a backwards, when i saw your post, i though "mplayer", but in this case it might have let me down - shocking.
[01:20] <Erealz> question in order to run compiz what driver are needed other then my video card driver?
[01:20] <brisky_> 'evening, i crash my ubuntu 11.10 with photorec cos i finish the space on my hd, now i starting with error that finish with cheching battery state, somebody know how to solve it?
[01:21] <FreeMem> Deithrian: I'l be sure to compile with no help just for that.. . j/k
[01:21] <aBound> Erealz, A binary nVidia or ATI driver dependent on the video card you have.
[01:21] <Erealz> nvidia
[01:21] <Deithrian> ;)
[01:21] <sancris> aBound, Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-downloader_11.1.102.62ubuntu0.11.10.1_i386.deb that's what I get in Update Manager
[01:22] <FreeMem> updates are down for ya then
[01:22] <Erealz> so what else would i need?
[01:22] <almoxarife> !info adobe-flash
[01:22] <sancris> 0.o
[01:22] <Deithrian> lol
[01:22] <aBound> Erealz, By the way if you're using Gnome-Shell it uses the Mutter window manager and can't utilize Compiz. But if you're running Unity and want Unity 3D you need to install the binary nVidia driver. From the "Additional Hardware" menu in the System Settings.
[01:22] <almoxarife> !info adobe-flashplugin
[01:23] <sancris> seems legit
[01:23] <sancris> lol
[01:23] <_Marcus> !info flash
[01:23] <_Marcus> !find flash
[01:23] <pal> Hi
[01:24] <sancris> if it doesn't exist, why the hell it shows an Update for it? so windows like :p
[01:24] <FreeMem> flashbake  Im off for a search...
[01:24] <mongy> almoxarife: it exists in partner
[01:24] <HK_> hola
[01:24] <_Marcus> !flashplugin-installer
[01:24] <_Marcus> !info flashplugin-installer
[01:24] <HK_> HEY
[01:24] <jen_> okay so how to do yahoo messenger video chat??
[01:24] <_Marcus> Hello
[01:24] <zykotick9> Why doesn't ubuntu have flashplugin-nonfree?
[01:24] <jen_> because my friends skype wont work
[01:24] <_Marcus> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[01:24] <HK_> chingos aqui hablan ingles
[01:24] <HK_> chinguense todos
[01:24] <aBound> sancris, By default in Ubuntu 11.10 Flash isn't installed. Usually, you install Flash from the Ubuntu Restricted Extras within the Software Center.
[01:24] <FreeMem> ah I feel dumb
[01:24] <Erealz> im useing ubuntu 10.04
[01:25] <zykotick9> !es | HK_
[01:25] <_Marcus> "provided by: flashplugin-downloader, flashplugin-installer"
[01:25] <almoxarife> _Marcus: that is the one that causes all the issues, ie. wont download
[01:25] <RenatoSilva> why doesn't all themes show up in 11.10's theme selector?
[01:25] <sancris> aBound, oh..I see
[01:25] <jen_> ???????
[01:25] <brisky_> 'evening, i crash my ubuntu 11.10 with photorec cos i finish the space on my hd, now i starting with error that finish with cheching battery state, somebody know how to solve it?
[01:25] <pal> I am with a problem with acpi..
[01:25] <HK_> thanks
[01:25] <HK_> man
[01:25] <zzoneblack> kjdjkdgjf
[01:25] <pal> the doesnt work properly
[01:25] <almoxarife> the package which is hassle free is 'adobe-flashplugin'
[01:25] <sancris> aBound, thanks for the help anyway...if it doesn't crash, I can live without an update
[01:25] <pal> fan
[01:25] <HK_> hack up
[01:26] <zykotick9> almoxarife: does that install flash 64bit?
[01:26] <almoxarife> zykotick9: yeap
[01:26] <aBound> sancris, I'd write the PPA down in gedit and remove it from the software sources and see if you can install Flash from Software Center.
[01:26] <zykotick9> almoxarife: thanks
[01:26] <jen_> how do I get yahoo onto linux?
[01:26] <pdq> sancris, i always use the https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/ works great for installing/updating :]
[01:26] <pal> I use ubuntu in a notebook but fan doesnt work properly.. acpi problem?
[01:27] <`Korvin> Hey, I'm running kubuntu, and I'm getting cursor artifacting
[01:27] <_Marcus> pal: How does the fan have to do with Ubuntu?
[01:27] <sancris> pdq, interesting
[01:27] <`Korvin> it's only the cursor and only on my main monitor
[01:27] <aBound> Erealz, Using an older version of Ubuntu?
[01:27] <zykotick9> `Korvin: does this happen to be in a VM?
[01:27] <Deithrian> jen_, sudo apt-get install yahoo
[01:27] <`Korvin> no zykotick9
[01:27] <Erealz> yea bro
[01:28] <jen_> that easy?
[01:28] <Erealz> id like to get compiz working
[01:28] <Deithrian> yep
[01:28] <aBound> sancris, Or you can follow pdq's advice and install the flash-aid addon for Firefox if you use that.
[01:28] <pal> because thereis no a fan in /proc
[01:28] <Erealz> i have my nvidia driver installed?
[01:28] <jen_> unable to locate package
[01:28] <sancris> aBound, alright...I'll try those hints here
[01:28] <sancris> thanks
[01:28] <aBound> No problem.
[01:29] <Deithrian> oh the tears of laughter...
[01:29] <jen_> there is no package for yahoo is there?
[01:29] <almoxarife> jen_: yahho chat?
[01:29] <jen_> yes
[01:29] <jen_> yahoo chat
[01:29] <jen_> i want to video call people
[01:29] <zykotick9> Erealz: and do you have OpenGL working?  "glxinfo | grep vendor" does it say NVIDIA Corporation for everything?
[01:29] <jen_> my friends skype is broke
[01:29] <pangolin> !behelpful | Deithrian
[01:29] <almoxarife> jen_: look at 'pidgin'
[01:29] <jen_> wont let me video chat
[01:29] <almoxarife> !info pidgin
[01:29] <aBound> Erealz, I'm not familiar with gnome-2 but there should be a menu for Additional Hardware in System.
[01:29] <Deithrian> pangolin, I know I'm sorry :)
[01:30] <Erealz> should i sudo apt-get install opengl?
[01:30] <zykotick9> Erealz: no
[01:32] <aBound> Erealz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:32] <almoxarife> jen_: i may have mis-understood, you are using a web browser to yahoo vid/chat?
[01:32] <jen_> no i am not
[01:33] <Erealz> server glx vendor string:nvidia corp
[01:33] <Deithrian> jen_, use google+ for video chat
[01:33] <almoxarife> jen_: alrighty, and how would you do it ?
[01:33] <jen_> can I download it?
[01:33] <Erealz> client glx vendor string:nvidia corp
[01:33] <samuel> jen_ it might be easier to get people to use gtalk or skype for video chat
[01:34] <Erealz> opengl vendor string:nvidia corp
[01:34] <jen_> ohhhh okay
[01:34] <samuel> you can get skype for linux straight off their website
[01:34] <Erealz> seem to be all there ... now what?
[01:34] <Deithrian> jen_, plus.google.com
[01:34] <jen_> i cant find gtalk
[01:34] <Erealz> all drivers seem to be installed right
[01:34] <almoxarife> jen_: pidgin, have them all
[01:34] <Erealz> so what the next step
[01:35] <jen_> I have pidgin i cant video chat
[01:35] <samuel> jen_ you can do video chat with gtalk through your web browser
[01:35] <almoxarife> jen_: cant? what that mean?
[01:35] <jen_> where is gtalk
[01:35] <Deithrian> jen_, plus.google.com
[01:35] <Deithrian> go invite your friends and video chat there
[01:35] <samuel> goto software center and search "gtalk" there is a browser plugin there
[01:35] <Erealz> guys?
[01:36] <Erealz> dont forget about meeee what else do i need to check
[01:36] <samuel> i keep meaning to try it out as i'm getting a bit nervous about skype's dedication to the linux platorm since microsoft bought it :/
[01:36] <almoxarife> samuel: gtalk is for chrome?
[01:36] <Deithrian> Erealz, what are you doing?
[01:36] <Erealz> zykotick9 everything is nvidia bro what else
[01:37] <Erealz> i like to get compiz working
[01:37] <Erealz> im running ubuntu 10.04
[01:37] <Deithrian> can't help with compiz /fleees
[01:37] <Erealz> i just did a glxinfo | grep vendor and all say nvidia
[01:38] <almoxarife> Erealz: compiz installed?
[01:38] <Erealz> not yet
[01:38] <Erealz> what apt-get syntax to get it installed
[01:38] <Erealz> apt-get install compiz?
[01:38] <Erealz> or what
[01:39] <amalgama> concerning the changing language layout in console, though i fixed it, i cannot really be sure how i did it :( .. lines were added in inputrc  file, locales were added, with language packages, and nowafter typing loadkeys the language AND alt+shift works, but not permantly. After each login, loadkeys have to be typed again...
[01:39] <almoxarife> Erealz: synaptic to simple?
[01:39] <amalgama> thanx everybody 4 your help
[01:39] <aBound> Erealz, Software Center can also install Compiz.
[01:39] <samuel> jen_: this might help http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/get-your-webcam-to-work-with-google.html
[01:39] <Erealz> i would if i could
[01:39] <jen_> i think i will use google plus
[01:40] <Erealz> i dont have the software center in this distro that i have
[01:40] <aBound> Erealz, 10.04 LTS has software center built into it.
[01:40] <aBound> Click on Applications and it should say Ubuntu Software Center.
[01:40] <aBound> If you're using Gnome 2.
[01:41] <Erealz> yeeaaa about that.....it ubuntu based but not ubuntu
[01:41] <Erealz> and they stript it out
[01:41] <aBound> Erealz, What distribution are you running on?
[01:41] <Erealz> backtrack 5
[01:41] <aBound> Erealz, More or less you're in the wrong channel.
[01:41] <matt-whi> How do I solve the issue of wireless not working on a fresh install of 11.10? I'm using a Broadcom BCM4322 card and the google solutions aren't helping.
[01:41] <Erealz> yea
[01:42] <Erealz> but these guys in the channel are like to leet to help a guy out
[01:42] <aBound> Backtrack is Ubuntu based but isn't the right channel to ask for Ubuntu help seeing as Backtrack uses the KDE GUI.
[01:42] <itaylor57> !backtrack
[01:42] <Erealz> i know i know
[01:42] <phix> Hey gang! Any one need Ubuntu help?
[01:42] <natethegreat1419> yea i do pm me
[01:42] <Erealz> but it ubuntu based  that close enough for me
[01:42] <aBound> Erealz, Have you tried the Backtrack channel?
[01:42] <ikonia> phix: if they did, they would be asking for help
[01:42] <Erealz> yea
[01:43] <ikonia> Erealz: we only support ubuntu here,  #backtrack-linux for backtrack support please.
[01:43] <Erealz> those guys are complete jerks!
[01:43] <Erealz> no help
[01:43] <phix> ikonia: I just got back and dont want to read all of my logs, so I am advertising my availability
[01:43] <natethegreat1419> ikonia: I did ask for help and nobody helped me so yes I do need help
[01:43] <Erealz> and those who arnt are asleep at the keybord
[01:43] <ikonia> phix: please don't
[01:43] <phix> ikonia: You sound like you need help, what can I do for you?
[01:43] <ikonia> phix: you can stop randomly offering help, watch the channel, if people ask a question you can answer, jump in
[01:43] <aBound> Erealz, The backtrack forums might be a bit more suitable for your needs. Seeing as we only tend to support the Official Ubuntu distribution in this channel. :P
[01:44] <phix> ikonia: yes sir! I will try it your way
[01:44] <CLIaddict> following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[01:44] <Erealz> ok forget it
[01:44] <CLIaddict> I did everything in it but it doesn't give me a login: on my serial cable
[01:44] <CLIaddict> I tried sudo getty -L 115200 ttyS0 vt102
[01:44] <Erealz> lol
[01:44] <CLIaddict> and it exits after 5 seconds
[01:44] <phix> Erealz: yeah there are alot of mofos in this channel, but hopefully I can help you out and change your opionionn that ;)
[01:44] <CLIaddict> with no messages
[01:45] <CLIaddict> can anyone help me?
[01:45] <dferrin_> Hi. How can I make rsync to not overwrite permissions on destination host?
[01:45] <Erealz> ok
[01:45] <samuel> sorry Erealz i dont think anyone here is trying to be a jerk but its hard to tell sometimes if your problem is related specifically to your distro
[01:45] <Erealz> let just forget that i even mention the name of the distro
[01:46] <CLIaddict> I'm running Ubuntu 10.10
[01:46] <CLIaddict> help?
[01:46] <samuel> like i know that at my work we have problems with linux mint's fsck, they tried to patch it, but for some reason its still a problem, not a problem in ubuntu
[01:46] <Erealz> if i were to do a apt-cache searche compiz | grep compiz  what should i look for?
[01:46] <hydrox24> samuel: and I am assuming it is the most updated version?
[01:46] <hydrox24> Erealz: you wouldn't need the grep command
[01:47] <jen_> what do I do with the google plugin
[01:47] <jen_> how do I instlal it?
[01:47] <CLIaddict> hydrox24: can you read this text?
[01:47] <samuel> yeah,  i even tried rolling back the package version but everytime fsck comes up, it hangs at the end until you press c
[01:47] <Erealz> no but it helps
[01:47] <Erealz> again
[01:47] <samuel> i guess it isnt so urgent, and most people would press c and forget about it, but my work provides computers for grannies, so something like that causes us grief
[01:47] <jen_> i have google plus but I need to install the plugin
[01:48] <Erealz> whould package should i install?
[01:48] <jen_> how do I do that
[01:48] <samuel> forgot hello again jen, hang on lemme have a look, did you download it from the website?
[01:49] <samuel> ah, its a deb file jen, all you got to do is download the right one, depending on whether you are running 32 or 64bit, then find it in your downloads folder and double click on it
[01:50] <samuel> it will open in the software center and you can install it from there
[01:50] <`Korvin> is there any ubuntu -> mac rdp?
[01:50] <p3rsist> Hi. How can I make rsync to not overwrite permissions on destination host?
[01:51] <ikonia> `Korvin: it's vnc
[01:51] <exutux> p3rsist: -p
[01:51] <jen__> im back
[01:51] <jen__> so i just need help installing
[01:51] <samuel> lol there was nothing to say you had gone
[01:52] <`Korvin> ikonia, what program is good?
[01:52] <p3rsist> exutux: I tried -p but it preserves permissions from the local host... and try to overwrite destination's permissions. I want to preserver destination's permission
[01:52] <samuel> deb file jen, all you got to do is download the right one, depending on whether you are running 32 or 64bit, then find it in your downloads folder and double click on it
[01:52] <samuel> it will open in the software center and you can install it from there
[01:52] <ikonia> `Korvin: any vncy client (search the repos) there are many
[01:52] <`Korvin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleRemoteDesktop
[01:52] <`Korvin> found that
[01:52] <exutux> p3rsist: -p preserve permissions ( from source ) if you don't it don't use -p nope?
[01:52] <`Korvin> thanks
[01:53] <hydrox24> `Korvin: I would recommend vnc as well, I do believe that it is built into ubuntu, you just need to retro install it with mac
[01:54] <Erealz> well I GOT IT!
[01:54] <Erealz> HAHAHAHAHAHA
[01:54] <Erealz> I GOT IT TO WORK
[01:54] <FloodBot1> Erealz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:54] <ikonia> Erealz: please - not in here
[01:54] <ikonia> Erealz: we are not interested in your backtrack problems/resolution
[01:54] <p3rsist> exutux: okey...but its already preserving from source... and I don't use -preserve...
[01:54] <exutux> p3rsist: or you can use --chmod or -p with -A = acl
[01:54] <Erealz> im not interisted you your face ikonia
[01:54] <Erealz> relax
[01:55] <exutux> p3rsist: so you get some permission error when execute rsync?
[01:55] <rioderelfte> p3rsist, do you use -a?
[01:55] <Erealz> lol
[01:55] <Erealz> it based off ubuntu you should be cool
[01:55] <ikonia> Erealz: STOP with the back track stuff, final warning
[01:56] <pangolin> Erealz: it is not supported here.
[01:56] <Erealz> wait your gona kick me for what
[01:56] <pangolin> Erealz: I kicked you for the way you responded to ikonia
[01:56] <delinquentme> hey all so I've gotten my little brother installed up running with ubuntu  .. and im wondering if anyone has a suggestion of some cool things that I can show him that'll get him excited abut running it
[01:56] <p3rsist> exutux: I use -zrv and --delete
[01:56] <CLIaddict> I tried sudo getty -L 115200 ttyS0 vt102
[01:56] <delinquentme> for me its just that its bomb proof .. but thats something that takes time to sink in
[01:57] <CLIaddict> and it exits after 5 seconds
[01:57] <Erealz> she started with i dont care stuff
[01:57] <CLIaddict> with no messages
[01:57] <CLIaddict> I'm running Ubuntu 10.10
[01:57] <CLIaddict> help?
[01:57] <Erealz> np keep it to your self
[01:57] <natethegreat1419> @Erealz: cause you have a OS that is ubuntu with different preloaded items so they call it backtrack and they dont like it
[01:57] <exutux> p3rsist: try using --chmod= with permission that you want
[01:58] <exutux> p3rsist: --chmod=666
[01:58] <exutux> only an example
[01:58] <CLIaddict> uhh is everyone ignoring me?
[01:59] <exutux> p3rsist: but what kind of filesystem host have
[01:59] <Stanley00> CLIaddict: what's your problem?
[01:59] <moes> I have a live cd of lubuntu-10.10...when i boot to a high end computer the o/s specs are lubuntu-10.10...when I boot to a low end computer the boot screen is purple and shows ubuntu-10.10 and the specs are ubuntu-10.10...why is this different ???
[01:59] <p3rsist> exutux: ext3
[01:59] <aBound> delinquentme, http://www.webupd8.org/ and http://www.techdrivein.com/
[01:59] <exutux> p3rsist: ok
[01:59] <CLIaddict> Stanley00: getty exits after 5 seconds (more or less) and with no error messages
[02:00] <CLIaddict> Stanley00: I'm making a serial connection to my ubuntu machine
[02:00] <p3rsist> rioderelfte: I use -zrv and --delete
[02:00] <aBound> delinquentme, You can flare him with Compiz.
[02:00] <exutux> p3rsist: there are many option about permission on rsync
[02:00] <CLIaddict> ...
[02:01] <delinquentme> compiz?
[02:01] <p3rsist> exutux: I guess so...but why will it try to preserve permissions if.. i dont ask it to do so...
[02:01] <aBound> delinquentme, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfRpmqKRbs
[02:02] <blud> I don't get why my VGA out isn't working...   I just tried to install new intel graphics drivers but it made no difference
[02:03] <blud> i dont really know what my next step could be in fixing this
[02:03] <hydrox24> blud: you still on here?
[02:03] <hydrox24> blud: I
[02:03] <blud> yup
[02:03] <hydrox24> blud: I'm sorry to hear that your having such difficulties
[02:04] <blud> thanks :p
[02:04] <CLIaddict> annnnd I'm not being helped _again_....
[02:04] <ikonia> CLIaddict: stop
[02:04] <hydrox24> blud: is the issue simply that you plug in a (powered on) monitor and it doesn't appear under the display settings?
[02:04] <ikonia> CLIaddict: if someone can help you they will
[02:04] <Stanley00> CLIaddict: sorry, system crash? Did someone answer your weustion?
[02:04] <Stanley00> *question*?
[02:04] <CLIaddict> Stanley00: no, no one did
[02:05] <ikonia> CLIaddict: complaining that no-one can help you at this time constantly isn't helpful
[02:05] <CLIaddict> Stanley00: did you catch my question?
[02:05] <hydrox24> CLIaddict: Don't expect things to be so quick too...
[02:05] <Stanley00> CLIaddict: just got "getty timeout after 5 secs" ?
[02:05] <exutux> p3rsist: so try to set your permission with --chmod
[02:05] <blud> hydrox24: well, i guess so, I mean the problem is that no signal is coming from the VGA out port, and seemingly what is causing that problem is that my ubuntu doesn't even recognize that it has a vga out port
[02:06] <CLIaddict> Stanley00: yes
[02:06] <ikonia> if you are getting getty exit quickly, it's normally because the device at the other end isn't either listening, or can't communicate with your application
[02:06] <blud> like when i run xrandr -q it doesnt even show up
[02:06] <CLIaddict> ikonia: thanks
[02:06] <p3rsist> exutux: can I also change remote group ownership with rsync?
[02:06] <Stanley00> CLIaddict: how do you know that prob? I think getty wont show up by default. I mean the default boot-up is a GUI?
[02:06] <hydrox24> blud: have you looked at lower level commands/details like using lshw and lspci?
[02:06] <ikonia> CLIaddict: speeds/flow control etc can all be a factor
[02:07] <hydrox24> blud: lshw specifically
[02:07] <blud> I have used them to see what they say yeah
[02:07] <CLIaddict> Stanley00: I'm working via SSH
[02:07] <CLIaddict> ikonia: well speeds and flow are correctly set on both ends
[02:07] <hydrox24> blud: and there's nothing about the VGA port?
[02:07] <ikonia> CLIaddict: what are you actually connecting to ?
[02:08] <exutux> p3rsist: p3rsist -o owner -g group
[02:08] <Gnea> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with an nviida GPU and have the 3d driver installed from the repository... but fullscreen at 720p is horribly sluggish and even 480p is kinda bad... it's a dualcore P4 3ghz with 4ghz of ram... it didn't do this in 10.04, so what should I look for?
[02:08] <Gnea> *nvidia
[02:08] <CLIaddict> ikonia: I'm attempting to connect to a ThinkCentre Pentium 4 box via Serial cable using minicom
[02:08] <hydrox24> Gnea: fullscreen flash or playing of a file?
[02:08] <exutux> p3rsist: -o super-user-only
[02:08] <CLIaddict> ikonia: I followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[02:08] <Gnea> hydrox24: flash and files
[02:08] <exutux> p3rsist: look at the man rsync
[02:09] <ikonia> CLIaddict: thinkcenter, is that the IBM e series blade thing ?
[02:09] <CLIaddict> ikonia: I get kernel boot messages
[02:09] <CLIaddict> ikonia: no, its not a blade
[02:09] <CLIaddict> ikonia: its an old desktop
[02:09] <ikonia> CLIaddict: not aware of the device
[02:09] <ArturasS> Hey
[02:09] <blud> hydrox24: well there's a display controller and a VGA compatible controller
[02:09] <aBound> Hi
[02:09] <CLIaddict> ikonia: condsider it a normal desktop/workstation
[02:10] <blud> in lshw
[02:10] <hydrox24> Gnea: OK, so how did you install that 3d driver. Did you use the "additional drivers' interface or straight from the repos?
[02:10] <CLIaddict> ikonia: it has 1 serial port
[02:10] <hydrox24> blud: are you using a laptop?
[02:10] <blud> yes
[02:10] <hydrox24> blud: if so, what is the make and model?
[02:10] <CLIaddict> ikonia: and I succesfully communicated to it before via that cable and hardware
[02:10] <Gnea> hydrox24: yes, used the 'additional drivers' so it got it from the repository
[02:10] <MantisTobogen> Hi I have downloaded ubuntu 32bit 11.10 twice and both times the disc image was unable to be mounted on either of my mac books
[02:10] <Gnea> hydrox24: also, this is the AMD64 release
[02:10] <CLIaddict> ikonia: but that was with minicom on both ends
[02:10] <hydrox24> Gnea: ok, so you shouldn't be having issues..
[02:10] <MantisTobogen> Do you think it is safe to burn or will it just waste my cd
[02:10] <exutux> p3rsist: so I think that -p preserve permission on destination, not from source
[02:10] <blud> btw, lspci shows the same 2 things. BRB i will go find out what the make and model is
[02:11] <Jordan_U> MantisTobogen: Did you check the md5sum?
[02:11] <hydrox24> Gnea: hmmm that AMD tidbit may be the issue
[02:11] <ikonia> CLIaddict: can you test it with minicom currently ?
[02:11] <Jordan_U> !md5sum | MantisTobogen
[02:11] <CLIaddict> now I'm attempting to use getty on that end, so I get a terminal
[02:11] <CLIaddict> ikonia: I'll try
[02:11] <matju> Is there some way to get Gnome Classic on Ubuntu 11.10 in a way that is not severely crippled ?
[02:11] <CLIaddict> ikonia: also SSH has been flaky on it only just recently
[02:11] <hydrox24> Gnea: actually no, I am running 64-bit too if that's what you mean (though you meant *ATI* when you saif *AMD* ... FAIL)
[02:11] <Gnea> hydrox24: yeah.. it's an intel cpu :)
[02:11] <ikonia> matju: gnome 2 is dead, the sooner you move on from it, the easier you'll find adapting in the long run
[02:12] <hydrox24> matju: I found that I had that issue too, I am now using gnome 3 happily though so I never bothered fixing classic...
[02:12] <Blue1> hmm
[02:12] <Blue1> so why did linus go to xfce?
[02:12] <blud> hydrox24: it is a Dell Inspiron 1150
[02:12] <ikonia> Blue1: ask him
[02:12] <Gnea> hydrox24: I'm not an ATI fan.. if they have better hardware, it'd be nice if they'd prove it with proper driver support
[02:13] <matju> ikonia: why is Gnome Classic still in the menu if it's not usable anymore ? gnome-panel bars can't be configured, etc.
[02:13] <CLIaddict> ikonia: yeah I _WAS_ just connected via SSH but now SSH is taking forever to connect
[02:13] <ikonia> matju: it won't be in the next release.
[02:13] <hydrox24> Gnea: are there diffferent options in additional drivers, if so is it worth trying the others?
[02:13] <Blue1> ask mr. shuttleworth
[02:13] <CLIaddict> ikonia: and its not a network issue
[02:13] <ikonia> CLIaddict: looks like the machine has an error then
[02:13] <hydrox24> blud: looking into it now
[02:13] <matju> hydrox24: haven't found much that I can call happy in either Gnome 3 or Ubuntu Desktop...
[02:13] <Gnea> hydrox24: but I looked on ubuntuforums and someone said I should try using prelink, which doesn't seem like it would do much of anything since everything's already loaded anyway
[02:13] <brontos> hey all.  Any of you get the broadcom 43xx modem working on ubuntu 11.10?  I am using a dell e6500
[02:13] <CLIaddict> ikonia: that only popped up yesterday?
[02:13] <CLIaddict> odd
[02:13] <ikonia> CLIaddict: sounds like it
[02:14] <Gnea> hydrox24: nah it just showed the latest
[02:14] <ikonia> CLIaddict: hardware does fail
[02:14] <CLIaddict> true
[02:14] <CLIaddict> ikonia: what log files should I poke? for info on failing hardware
[02:15] <ikonia> CLIaddict: syslog is always a good place to start, but it won't show things such as "PSU starting to die" unless you have voltage monitors active (for example)
[02:15] <hydrox24> matju: I gave unity about 2 weeks to try and break it in before deciding I didn't like it, then I switched to gnome 3, didn't like it for the first week and now I am addicted!
[02:15] <MantisTobogen> ok thanks checksum is fine according to the ubuntu wiki, just weird how it won't mount but then again it is mac :\
[02:15] <CLIaddict> ikonia: thanks
[02:15] <Blue1> YMMV applies I guess
[02:15] <matju> hydrox24: what causes the addiction ?
[02:15] <CLIaddict> MantisTobogen: whats wrong?
[02:16] <hydrox24> brontos: busy right now so I can't help, but it is well documented I do believe so check ubuntu forums..,
[02:16] <CLIaddict> MantisTobogen: I'm familiar with *nix on both Mac and Linux
[02:16] <brontos> hydrox24, yeah, I have seen several things but none of them have worked...
[02:16] <MantisTobogen> CLIaddict don't worry about it I resolved my problem thanks for the willingness to help though :)
[02:17] <hydrox24> matju: faster than unity, much less buggy, awesome looking interface, love that it uses the super key as well... plus with a little fiddling it's as customizable as i wan't!
[02:17] <CLIaddict> :D
[02:17] <hydrox24> brontos: OK, better mention those things for anyone who might want to help you.
[02:18] <Stanley00> !away | CLIaddict[away] :D
[02:18] <matju> hydrox24: how do i get hierarchical menus instead of the all-in-one-bunch nonsense ?
[02:20] <matju> hydrox24: (note : Gnome 3 is what i have currently selected. I can't even find where's the system config)
[02:20] <hydrox24> matju: haven't done that as I find simply typing into the search bar a related keyword works wonders, but I can understand you want heirachial menus. try xfce as a window manager
[02:21] <hydrox24> matju: to find the system config without the search bar try: top left button to get app launch interface, then click the applications button (windows will be selected) then down the right side choose system
[02:22] <hydrox24> blud: unfortunately that VGA you mentioned is definetely your laptop screen, can you confirm the VGA out works in another OS or distro?
[02:22] <hydrox24> blud: preferably OS
[02:22] <matju> hydrox24: if I install and use XFCE, do i get full access to GNOME apps ?
[02:22] <blud> like.. what, dual boot into another OS?
[02:22] <brontos> hydrox24, yeah probably so.
[02:23] <mun> hi
[02:23] <hydrox24> blud: OK, so you don't know if the VGA port works at all... as in it may be a HW issue
[02:23] <hydrox24> matju: Yes, they still run
[02:23] <matju> hydrox24: yeah, i found the system config already. Didn't look at that list, because it didn't even look like it was clickable.
[02:24] <blud> well... i don't "know", but theres no reason why it would be broken
[02:24] <kalimojo> how can i get an invite to#english
[02:24] <mun> i'm trying to install Chinese via Language Support, but it keeps complaining that one of the debs can't be found on security.ubuntu.com. It's trying to get firefox-locale...10.0.1+...deb whereas the site has 10.0.2. how do i update Language Support?
[02:24] <hydrox24> matju: good, glad to hear it, I almost never hit the applications button though, I just use the search bar
[02:24] <matju> hydrox24: i mean i didn't see « System » because it didn't really look like a menu or buttons
[02:24] <blud> perhaps i could use like Bart PE to do like a windows live cd and try to use the vga out? lol idk
[02:25] <hydrox24> blud: sorry, but unfortunately I am not sure where to go from here and it seems that no-one else has had your issue.
[02:25] <blud> i've read several posts
[02:25] <hydrox24> matju: no, I understand that, good that you know now though
[02:25] <blud> with peopel with the exact same issue
[02:25] <blud> but no solutions :|
[02:25] <poyntz> when I mouse over on panes they disappear, how can i fix this?
[02:25] <hydrox24> oh, ok
[02:25] <matju> hydrox24: so now, can I make Alt+Tab work properly ?
[02:27] <blud> basically xrandr is supposed to show 2 outputs or 2 screens you know
[02:27] <blud> but instead it only shows 1
[02:27] <CLIaddict> is irc.ubuntu.com an alias for freenode?
[02:27] <ikonia> CLIaddict: yes
[02:27] <hydrox24> matju: alt+tab should work fine in gnome3, unless you can tell me what the specific issue with it is
[02:27] <CLIaddict> agh thamks
[02:27] <blud> hydrox24: would it be worth anything for me to try a live 11.04 cd ?
[02:27] <hydrox24> blud: could you tell me what google search termm you used to find these posts?
[02:28] <hydrox24> blud: oh, what ubuntu are you running?
[02:28] <cyberNode> I am looking for a default my.cnf file for mysql 5.5 on ubuntu 10.04. Anyone know where I can find one.
[02:29] <CLIaddict> ikonia: ahh ok im chatting from the box in question from my last request for help
[02:29] <matju> hydrox24: It groups windows of the same app together. It's slower to make the switch to another window of the same app than going to another app.
[02:29] <hydrox24> matju: just hit the "`" or "~" (tilda) key that is above tab instead of tab
[02:29] <CLIaddict> ikonia: is it normal for dhclient: DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.1.10 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
[02:29] <CLIaddict> to keep repeting it self?
[02:29] <hydrox24> matju: so alt+tab becomes alt+~
[02:30] <keda87_> anyone, can u help to installing metasploit in my 11.10?
[02:30] <hydrox24> matju: this switches between the windows of one application, then hitting alt tab switches between apps
[02:30] <ikonia> CLIaddict: means it's not getting an IP address from the dhcp server
[02:30] <CLIaddict> ikonia: then how am I talking to you from this "ip-less" box?
[02:31] <hydrox24> keda87_: This isn't the place for those sorts of questions, in mosts peoples opinions if you need to ask about how to install metasploit then you shouldnt be using it.
[02:31] <matju> hydrox24: oh GREAT ! :) I was feeling so handicapped, i had the impression of being on OSX.
[02:31] <ikonia> CLIaddict: ahh, sorry, it's only requesting,
[02:31] <hydrox24> keda87_: we are happy to help with specific install errors though.
[02:31] <ikonia> CLIaddict: it can re-request, although the frequency of that is in your dhclient config
[02:31] <kalimojo> how can i get an invite to#english
[02:31] <CLIaddict> ah ok thanks
[02:31] <hydrox24> matju: good to hear, yeh it took me  awhile to figure out too!
[02:31] <matju> kalimojo: what's #english ?
[02:32] <CLIaddict> ikonia: heres more info on getty: init: ttyS0 main process (2450) terminated with status 1
[02:32] <Pikkachu> matju: a channel, ##English?
[02:32] <CLIaddict> whats status 1?
[02:32] <ikonia> CLIaddict: no idea, need to look it up
[02:32] <matju> Pikkachu: i mean : what is it for ?
[02:32] <Pikkachu> matju: go there and read the topic
[02:32] <ikonia> CLIaddict: getty error codes are not on the tip of my tounge annoyingly
[02:32] <hydrox24> kalimojo: I don't think this is the place to ask that Q, try ubuntu-offtopic for that
[02:32] <CLIaddict> ah ok thanks
[02:32] <Pikkachu> who was helping me here a few hours ago? it started with upper D
[02:33] <matju> Pikkachu: i thought that kalimojo was saying that it's invite-only. I don't know what's going on.
[02:33] <hydrox24> gtg, cya guys
[02:33] <Pikkachu> anyway, whoever helped me, I'm running Gnome Shell right now
[02:33] <hydrox24> lunch is calling!
[02:33] <Pikkachu> I think I can't easily get old look back, can't use my custom theme for some reason
[02:33] <exutux> p3rsist: well I made some test, you can change permission for group and others, using rsync -rzvp --chmod=g+rwx,o+r /source/ destination it sets drwxrwxr-- on destination, you can't change owner
[02:34] <exutux> p3rsist: --chmode needs -p
[02:34] <Pikkachu> I'm just keeping the theme and .emerald in case I can use them in the future
[02:34] <kalimojo> yes. invite only
[02:34] <Pikkachu> matju: neither do I
[02:34] <poyntz> when I mouse over on panes they disappear, how can i fix this?
[02:34] <CLIaddict> ikonia: why does console-kit-daemon eat half my ram by spawning 76 of it self?
[02:34] <Pikkachu> matju: I didn't see his msg
[02:35] <CLIaddict> and how can i stop it?
[02:35] <ikonia> CLIaddict: certainly shouldn't be running 76 processes
[02:35] <p3rsist> exutux: Thanks
[02:36] <blud> ah crap. hydrox on lunch lol
[02:36] <CLIaddict> ikonia: on CrunchBang (another distro) starts 64 processes of console-kit
[02:36] <ikonia> CLIaddict: but they shouldn't be hanging around
[02:37] <andre_> cc
[02:38] <CLIaddict> ikonia: any ideas on how to keep them from starting in  the first place?
[02:38] <MeXTuX> I wanna copy a DVD with Ubuntu. It is not a copyrighted disc. It's just a data DVD (documents, music, etc.) I used to backup all my work. What command do I need??? :)
[02:38] <cfhowlett> MeXTuX   dd
[02:38] <cfhowlett> !dd|mextux
[02:38] <ikonia> CLIaddict: there is an upstart job that spawns them, I don't have an ubuntu machine here to check the job name
[02:38] <cfhowlett> MeXTuX   sorry not on ubottu - see the man pages for dd
[02:39] <CLIaddict> ikonia: I'll poke it using the info you provided, thanks
[02:39] <exutux> MeXTuX: install dvdbackup
[02:39] <CLIaddict> MeXTuX: I can help with dd
[02:39] <MeXTuX> ok
[02:39] <CLIaddict> MeXTuX: can you supply the dev name of your DVD drive?
[02:39] <beeblebrox3> hi! i need some help with empthy on ubuntu
[02:39] <MeXTuX> dd is the command I need :)
[02:39] <exutux> MeXTuX: dvdbackup -M -o /destination copy entire dvd
[02:39] <beeblebrox3> someone can help me?
[02:40] <CLIaddict> MeXTuX: dd if=/dev/DVD_DRIVE_DEV_NAME of=imagefile.img bs=2048k
[02:42] <MeXTuX> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2012-02-18 17:23 /dev/dvdrw -> sr0
[02:43] <hiexpo> MeXTuX, looks like wireless card
[02:44] <exutux> hiexpo: wireless card?
[02:45] <hiexpo> yah exutux sr0 is   a wireless card  for intell
[02:45] <hiexpo> with a stockdriver
[02:45] <exutux> hiexpo: maybe ras0
[02:45] <exutux> sr0 is a cd/dvd drive
[02:46] <hiexpo> exutux, oops mybad ra0
[02:46] <exutux> :D
[02:47] <hiexpo> to many barley pops
[02:47] <hiexpo> maybe
[02:48] <hiexpo> uh oh ikonia fixinto kick hehe       :)
[02:48] <CLIaddict[away]> MeXTuX: yeah sr0 sounds good
[02:48] <hiexpo> hola ikonia
[02:49] <techboy291> hello
[02:49] <techboy291> anyone there?
[02:50] <jackson> o/
[02:51] <hiexpo> wow quiet in here  only 1300
[02:52] <mriza> well
[02:52] <mriza> hi all
[02:52] <CLIaddict[away]> ikonia: I think I know whats up, I have ser2net installed from an old project and it may be hogging ttyS0
[02:53] <hiexpo> mriza, | ask
[02:54] <mriza> yep, i'm here
[02:54] <Canadian1296> hiexpo: I just joined to give some help, but it's really quiet...
[02:55] <hiexpo> mriza, ask your ?
[02:55] <mriza> Canadian1296,same here
[02:55] <hiexpo> oh
[02:55] <blud> well, i still havent fixed my vga port issue lol.. but yeah im downloading 11.10 to try a live cd and see if it can use the vga port...
[02:55]  * mriza is 32 male ID
[02:56] <hiexpo> blud, might i suggest upgrading the kernel you can revert there
[02:57] <mriza> blud, have u try liquorix kernel?
[02:57] <AlessandroLable> oi alguem pode me dizer como ir pro canal do ubunto brasil ?
[02:57] <blud> nope, i dont really know about how to change kernels or even upgrade them
[02:58] <AlessandroLable> tinha entrado nele mas nao fico salvo
[02:58] <blud> i mean, the thing does pop up and tell me to upgrade to 11.04
[02:58] <hiexpo> blud,  upgrade to kernel ,,,3.2.6
[02:58] <blud> what would i do to do that
[02:58] <Canadian1296> blud: upgrade with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:59] <borillion> how do I force mount ext4 as ext3 ? My nas doesn't like the ext4 partition
[02:59] <blud> i might as well, im about 3 steps away from throwing the computer in the garbage
[02:59] <Canadian1296> blud: don't throw it out. It should never come to that.
[03:00] <mriza> borillion,just format it to ext3 first, and then mount it as usual
[03:00] <borillion> mriza, that would wipe my data
[03:00] <Datz> Hello. WHen I try to play flash/youtube video's the video window will appear smaller than the designated box for it, and sometimes not play at all. I think I instlalled a package other than ubuntu's repository package for it at one point. What should I do?
[03:01] <Canadian1296> Datz: Remove the other package and install the official one
[03:01] <mriza> Datz,try to reinstall the faslh plugin
[03:01] <mriza> yeah, that should work
[03:01] <CLIaddict> ikonia: AlessandroLable is asking how to get to a Ubuntu help channel for portugese/spanish speaking people
[03:02] <Datz> Canadian1296, mriza how do I identify and remove the other package?
[03:02] <CLIaddict> ah he left
[03:02] <mriza> run synaptic package manager and type flash at the search form
[03:03] <Canadian1296> "dpkg --list | grep flash" on a command line
[03:03] <Datz> mriza: well the other package isn't going to be there
[03:03] <Datz> Canadian1296: let me try that
[03:03] <mriza> mark the package for remove or purge. and apply
[03:03] <mriza> and then mark the other flash package, the official one
[03:05] <mriza> Datz,if your configuration is pointing to the right repositories, it should be ther
[03:05] <Datz> looks like I'm not seeing the other package wikth dpkg Canadian1296
[03:05] <Datz> mriza: I didn't get the first flash install through ubuntu repos
[03:05] <Datz> I realized afterwards that if anything went wrong I would be up a tree
[03:05] <mriza> oow
[03:05] <mriza> ok
[03:05] <Datz> as I don't know where the installer put everything
[03:06] <zelozelos> i have ubuntustudio with xfce and kde, while in plasma, some dist's have a blank folder (kinda a widget not for sure), how do i add one?
[03:06] <mriza> try to install ubuntu-restricted-extras, there's flash plugin installer in it, the official one
[03:06] <Datz> just going to try and reinstall everything
[03:07] <mriza> :)
[03:07] <zelozelos> another q, how to i see the path of a program that i can run in the terminal by just typing its name i.e. blender
[03:07] <blud> Canadian1296:  I did that update, it updated 4 things
[03:08] <blud> I think they are 4 things which came about because earlier today i installed a custom intel driver from a ppa
[03:08] <blud> but, anyhow, its still not working. If i do xrandr the vga port still doesnt show up
[03:08] <blud> hiexpo: how do i upgrade the kernel?
[03:08] <mriza> zelozelos, for the second q. index the files of your storage first, using "sudo updatedb"
[03:09] <krux> zelozelos, whereis blender ?
[03:09] <pdq> zelozelos, whereis blender ?
[03:09] <pdq> :P
[03:09] <krux> :)
[03:09] <mriza> and then search the index  with "locate blender|grep bin"
[03:09] <zelozelos> thank you krux and pdq
[03:09] <blud> hydrox24: I dont remember my google search but here are some links of similar issues http://pastebin.com/4v5jDqY2
[03:09] <mriza> it's 2 line command
[03:10] <mriza> zelozelos, d u found it?
[03:10] <pdq> no prob, locate is good too
[03:10] <zelozelos> that was too simple, im used to finding stuff like xwinwrap...like whats that...(i know what it is, im just saying) lol
[03:10] <zelozelos> mriza yup
[03:10] <playit> hey how to i integrate google voice with ubuntu?
[03:10] <playit> Like I have a personal phone number with google and it rings me whenever my gmail is open
[03:10] <evildaem1n> Whats the ubuntu equivalent of wheel?
[03:11] <hydrox24> blud: thanks!
[03:11] <Ben64> evildaem1n: wheel?
[03:11] <playit> how do i get it into empathy or another add on where i dont have to have gmail open
[03:11] <evildaem1n> Ben64: Yes, the group wheel.
[03:11] <hiexpo> Diamondcite, you pm me ?
[03:11] <h00k> evildaem1n: you can edit who can sudo with 'visudo', if that helps
[03:12] <Canadian1296> blud: Those 4 things were the kernel. Now you can run "sudo apt-get autoremove" to get rid of the old one.
[03:12] <evildaem1n> h00k: Thank you, I was just following an arch tutorial that asked you to use the wheel group and I went "I'm pretty sure Ubuntu/Debian doesn't have that."
[03:12] <Ben64> evildaem1n: anyone who is in the admin group can sudo
[03:12] <mriza> blud, u can upgrade the kernel using "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" after the frist one
[03:13] <Canadian1296> mriza: He already did that (upgraded the kernel) but is still having his issue.
[03:13] <mriza> Ben64,u'r right
[03:13] <RonV> Running Ubuntu 11.10 on a HP EliteBook 8540p and cannot get the laptop to suspend/resume properly.  Found very little other than drivers to unload reload via a script in the  etc/pm/sleep.d directory that doesn't solve the issue.  Any other recommendations on how to get suspend/resume working on this laptop?
[03:13] <blud> mriza:  oh , well i already did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:13] <h00k> evildaem1n: wheel isn't really used much anymore, but yeah. visudo to edit. and add user to 'admin' group and they can sudo.
[03:14] <evildaem1n> h00k: BSD still uses whell, but who cares about them?
[03:14] <evildaem1n> *wheel
[03:15] <CLIaddict> evildaem1n: root is the equiv to wheel
[03:15] <mriza> blud, u also can try to use liquorix kernel. just follow this tutorial http://liquorix.net/
[03:15] <evildaem1n> CLIaddict: Thank you.
[03:16] <mriza> blud, here too http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/how-to-install-liquorix-kernel-in.html
[03:17] <CLIaddict> evildaem1n: don't hold me to it, I'm only 90% sure
[03:17] <blud> mriza: that page says "You should try the Liquorix Kernel only if you have a pretty new computer (hardware) and only if you know how to recover your system in case something goes wrong."  but neither of those things are true
[03:18] <blud> its an old ass computer and i dont know how to recover :p
[03:18] <CLIaddict> evildaem1n: it may be also "admin"
[03:18] <mriza> :p
[03:18] <WoC> mriza do you know which kernel version Liquorix Kernel is based on ?
[03:19] <Tyrope> Hello, i'm trying to move a folder's contents to it's parent (mv -t .. *), however, this folder contains both hidden files and folders. How can I run this command recursivly, including hidden files/folders?
[03:19] <wahyu> :D
[03:19] <Pikkachu> Tyrope: mv --help
[03:19] <Canadian1296> Tyrope: "mv -a ./ ../" i think… Someone correct me I'm wrong
[03:19] <evildaem1n> Cool, turns out I'm missing dhcpcd
[03:20] <capurro-icecream> I just can't change the paper size for an usb printer using cups
[03:20] <Tyrope> Canadian1296: mv: invalid option -- 'a'
[03:20] <Tyrope> Pikkachu: Tried that, couldn't find it, hence me asking here.
[03:20] <hydrox24> capurro-icecream: is the option greyed out? Or doesn't changing the option work?
[03:21] <mriza> WoC,i don't, sorry
[03:21] <skypce> hello guys, does have a copy dialog transfer indicator for unity 2d panel?
[03:21] <WoC> mriza k, thx anyhow :)
[03:21] <mriza> wahyu, welcome
[03:21] <capurro-icecream> it starts from the left side no matter the page width I use
[03:22] <Canadian1296> Tyrope: Hmmm…  Idk then
[03:22] <reCAPTCHA> Hey all... I have a keyboard with some damaged keys... is there an easy way to reassign the characters that those keys used to represent?
[03:22] <Tyrope> Canadian1296: thx anyway.
[03:22] <Tyrope> I'd use the file manager, but it doesn't display hidden files.
[03:23] <chrfle> Hello all... I'm trying to modify my panel in 11.10.. when I alt-rightclick it I don't get any context menu... any suggestions?
[03:23] <WoC> Tyrope Maybe something like; find . -type d --depth 1 -exec mv {} .. \;
[03:23] <gordon1234> CTL-H will display hidden files in file manager
[03:23] <wahyu> tes
[03:24] <Tyrope> WoC: find: unknown predicate '--depth'
[03:24] <Ben64> Tyrope: -maxdepth
[03:25] <WoC> Tyrope my bad, maxdepth :)
[03:25] <mriza> Tyrope, mv -rR * ..
[03:25] <ekalavya> anyone know if there is a way to emulate windows snap in ubuntu 10.04
[03:25] <mriza> or mv -r * ..
[03:25] <capurro-icecream> hydrox24: no matter what paper size I use, the start will be alwais 0 (x-coordinate) and the small paper widths go to the center of the printer (it's hp LJ p1606)
[03:26] <Tyrope> mriza: mv: invalid option: -- 'r'
[03:26] <WoC> Tyrope; mc is pretty useful too :)
[03:26] <mriza> well
[03:26] <mriza> mv -R * ..
[03:26] <Ben64> Tyrope: what are you trying to do
[03:26] <mriza> u should cd to the dir first
[03:26] <zippy> Hey all.. how can I set my own keybindings...
[03:26] <zippy> ?
[03:27] <mriza> not outside
[03:27] <Tyrope> Ben64: [0419.08] <Tyrope> Hello, i'm trying to move a folder's contents to it's parent (mv -t .. *), however, this folder contains both hidden files and folders. How can I run this command recursivly, including hidden files/folders?
[03:27] <capurro-icecream> hydrox24: since I'm printing from a C# app using mono (for a mono compiled .exe file) I can only rely on this ubuntu print manager or cups web-frontend. None of both work
[03:27] <arkiver> Hi. i installed cinnamon and downloaded a theme from their website. I cant figure out how to install the theme . Can anybody help ??
[03:27] <Tyrope> mriza: also invalid option. and yes i'm cd'd to the origin folder.
[03:27] <Ben64> Tyrope: fastest way is two commands. "mv * ../" and "mv .* ../"
[03:28] <zelozelos> thank you againg for the whereis...ok so how do i set up such a link? in dos its path "place"
[03:28] <urfr332gO> arkiver, there is a ppa which are not supported here as well.
[03:28] <Tyrope> lemme switch from VM to SSH so i can c/p the results.
[03:29] <HenriqueMachado> Nois que voa bruxão
[03:29] <arkiver> urfr332gO,  I have installed cinnamon from a ppa. And i am using cinnamon right now. But i want some way to installed a theme for it !
[03:30] <urfr332gO> arkiver, cool but just giving you a heads up that neither are supported here, you may not get help. ;)
[03:30] <Tyrope> Ben64: http://www.pastebin.com/NkKcbdsQ
[03:31] <arkiver> urfr332gO, ohh!
[03:31] <zippy> Anybody know how I can get ctrl+key to have the value of my choice? I have some broken keys I need to reassign.
[03:31] <urfr332gO> zippy, what desktop you running?
[03:32] <zippy> gnome 2
[03:32] <Ben64> Tyrope: then.... theres no files there, except for .git
[03:32] <urfr332gO> zippy, try the keyboard app.
[03:32] <zelozelos> is there a way to switch from kde to xfce n visa-versa without logging out n closing programs?
[03:32] <zippy> urfr332gO: the keyboard app is cool, but I code on my laptop... kind cramps productivity.
[03:32] <Tyrope> Ben64: ok, but .git should've been moved as well.
[03:32] <urfr332gO> zelozelos, not that I have heard of.
[03:33] <h00k> zelozelos: probably not, switching desktop environments usually requires logging out
[03:33] <zelozelos> sorry to b asking so many q's, i just got things the way i think ill want them
[03:33] <Ben64> Tyrope: theres a ../.git though, and it doesn't know what to do
[03:33] <urfr332gO> zippy, well good luck with that. :)
[03:33] <zippy> urfr332gO: especially being that the broken keys are the colon / semi colon and quotation mark keys... much pain.
[03:33] <Tyrope> Ben64: overwrite, rmdir ../.git then mv .* ../ ?
[03:34] <Ben64> Tyrope: if you don't need anything in ../.git, then do rm -fr ../.git
[03:34] <Tyrope> Ben64: I don't, it was a mistake I made earlier. I need .git itself.
[03:34] <blud> zippy: xmodmap?
[03:35] <urfr332gO> zippy, buying a keyboard would seem to be the plan, my netbook keyboard broke computer still runs I never transport it I bought a 12$ keyboard
[03:35] <Tyrope> Ok, it still doesn't work, i'll just rm -ft /var/www/dftbquotes and retry the git clone. thx though.
[03:36] <zippy> blud xmodmap... sounds famillair.
[03:37] <blud> zippy, i used something like this to remap some keys from a remote http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Remapping_remote_control_key_codes_greater_than_255
[03:37] <blud> but i think that only maps like 1 key to another
[03:37] <blud> like you could make T become B
[03:37] <blud> but i dont know if you could make CTRL-T become B
[03:38] <blud> but google xmodmap i guess but.. maybe same issue there
[03:38] <zippy> blud: what about using config-editor
[03:38] <thetinyjesus> how unstable are 11.10 pre-released updates?
[03:38] <blud> zippy: I really dont know, i only managed to just barely figure out how to remap my remote keys
[03:39] <thetinyjesus> does anyone know how unstable 11.10 pre-released updates are?
[03:40] <urfr332gO> thetinyjesus, not a good idea to use.
[03:40] <admin15tr4t0r> thetinyjesus,, 11.10 has already released
[03:40] <admin15tr4t0r> the upcoming release is 12.04
[03:40] <HenriqueMachado> thetinyjesus is a funny nick
[03:41] <admin15tr4t0r> 11.10 is pretty stable at my laptop
[03:41] <thetinyjesus> if i go into updates and click that, they're 82 additional updates available
[03:41] <admin15tr4t0r> but i don't use unity
[03:41] <Rurd2di> yer 11.10 is ok
[03:41] <Rurd2di> apart from unity
[03:41] <admin15tr4t0r> i use gnome shell
[03:41] <Rurd2di> which is shjit
[03:41] <Rurd2di> *shit
[03:41] <FloodBot1> Rurd2di: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:42] <admin15tr4t0r> ups, sorry
[03:42] <h00k> !language | Rurd2di
[03:44] <admin15tr4t0r> wow 2 warning in a space of 1 minute :D
[03:44] <thetinyjesus> is there a reason you use gnome instead of unity?
[03:45] <n00b122> need some help
[03:45] <n00b122> just installed ubunutu 11.10
[03:45] <fellayaboy> is their a package for vlc 2.0?
[03:45] <n00b122> on usb stick
[03:45] <urfr332gO> thetinyjesus, can we stick with actual support?
[03:45] <h00k> thetinyjesus: Unity is a shell that runs on Gnome.
[03:45] <h00k> fellayaboy: check VLC's website?
[03:45] <thetinyjesus> sorry didnt realize i was in support room
[03:46] <n00b122> when I boot it, it gets stuck at syslinux
[03:46] <h00k> !topic | thetinyjesus
[03:46] <fellayaboy> h00k, it said check with ur distro
[03:46] <n00b122> what s the prolem?
[03:47] <sisar> are there any logs for this channel ?
[03:47] <h00k> !logs | sisar
[03:48] <sisar> h00k: thnks :)
[03:49] <D4rcK> good night
[03:51] <TA5K> Hi, lightdm has the correct display resolution, but when I log in the resolution switches :( How can I fix this. (GUI Display setting changes are not permanent either)
[03:52] <urfr332gO> TA5K, not sure if lubuntu is ldm but are you rfunning that?
[03:53] <urfr332gO> running*
[03:53] <gtrees> whats up everyone
[03:53] <hydrox24> gtrees: yo
[03:53] <TA5K> urfr332gO: I'm running Ubuntu
[03:54] <_Marcus> TA5K: this is the Ubuntu support channel :P
[03:54] <TA5K> _Marcus: I guess, I'm right here ,)
[03:56] <BrandonBolton> Hello, how do I install VLC 2.0?
[03:56] <_Marcus> !vlc | BrandonBolton
[03:57] <_Marcus> I hate when Ubottu spits out something useless like that
[03:57] <BrandonBolton> That is pretty useless. 2.0 Just isn't in the repositories yet it seems
[03:57] <_Marcus> BrandonBolton: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[03:57] <almoxarife> BrandonBolton: how is it avail?
[03:58] <_Marcus> BrandonBolton: I don't think that's offical, but it's still by the people who made VLC.
[03:58] <urfr332gO> BrandonBolton, isn't there a vlc deb on the site
[03:59] <BrandonBolton> I can not find one, it just tells me to do apt-get update and then install the new one, but it just installs the older one.
[03:59] <_Marcus> BrandonBolton: I guess the new one isn't in the repositories yet.
[04:00] <BrandonBolton> That's what I was thinking, thank you anyways everyone.
[04:00] <_Marcus> Wait
[04:00] <_Marcus> Does general "apt-get" get from the multiverse repository?
[04:01] <galaxis> wow da is aber viel los
[04:02] <BrandonBolton> _Marcus, I tried it in Synaptic too. It doesn't seem to be on the repositories yet. I have the multiverse enabled.
[04:03] <almoxarife> BrandonBolton: its not avail
[04:03] <_Marcus> !de | galaxis
[04:04] <_Marcus> BrandonBolton: Then I don't know what to say. They don't have a download that I can find on their site, so you may just have to wait for an update to come.
[04:04] <BrandonBolton> Alright, thank you anyways guys. I was just excited for the update.
[04:05] <almoxarife> BrandonBolton: ppa have it
[04:05] <BrandonBolton> almoxarife, How do I do that?
[04:06] <aktest> eee
[04:06] <aktest> asdf
[04:06] <almoxarife> BrandonBolton: add the ppa, then update/upgrade, but at your own risk
[04:07] <BrandonBolton> almoxarife, Alright, I will try that. Thank you.
[04:10] <urfr332gO> BrandonBolton, the ppa on the vlc site just 404d me.
[04:11] <BrandonBolton> urfr332gO, Sadly same here. The stable-daily seems to be down. :(
[04:11] <almoxarife> urfr332gO: the version of ubuntu will affect a ppa avail
[04:12] <almoxarife> BrandonBolton: what version you have?
[04:12] <urfr332gO> BrandonBolton, almoxarife doh I tried the lucid ppa I was not looking I'm running oneric
[04:14] <almoxarife> ppa:videolan/stable-daily <-- should work on 11.10
[04:14] <BrandonBolton> almoxarife, currently I am 10.04
[04:15] <almoxarife> BrandonBolton: good luck
[04:17] <almoxarife> BrandonBolton: install y-ppa-manager, will make things easier, like locating a ppa
[04:17] <myk_robinson> seen this a couple times today installing packages, any worries?       dpkg: warning: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 29731 package 'fing':
[04:18] <poyntz> hi, when i try to run mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdb1 /mnt/a I get this error - http://paste.kde.org/425132/
[04:18] <poyntz> - I've installed hfsplus hfsutils and hfsprogs; why is it not mounting?
[04:20] <poyntz> dmesg|tail gives this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/848083/
[04:20] <nore> hi everybody!
[04:20] <ljsoftnet> hello nore
[04:21] <_Marcus> nore: Hello
[04:22] <nore> I have a question about hosts in ubuntu
[04:22] <nore> how can I alias www.mypetsite.com to localhost:8080?
[04:23] <_Marcus> nore: I think Apache's default webpage(/var/www) goes to localhost
[04:24] <nore> _Marcus, my problem is I'm using totally different server and I have to use localhost:8001. I wanted to rename it with a bit more meaningful host name
[04:24] <_Marcus> nore: So instead of localhost, you want something else?
[04:25] <nore> _Marcus, yes, but with port number
[04:25] <Berzerker> in my pulse volume control, there's a device LADSPA Plugin Multiband EQ on Internal Audio Analog Stero which gets set as default every boot
[04:25] <Berzerker> is there a way to disable it?
[04:26] <nore> Is it possible or do I need to tune my web server for that?
[04:27] <_Marcus> nore: I don't know about the port number, but there is a file that contains your computers name, so you can connect to it on computers in your network with that name.
[04:27] <sisar> i want Ubuntu to use the definition that 1KB=1024 bytes, and not 1000 bytes. How can I do this ? #oneiric
[04:28] <nore> _Marcus, which file?
[04:28] <_Marcus> nore: /etc/hostname
[04:28] <nore> ok, _Marcus thanks a lot. I'll take a look at it
[04:29] <_Marcus> nore: Okay. That'll only change your hostname though, so clients in your network can connect to http://yourcomputername/
[04:29] <_Marcus> nore: Or any other protocol
[04:30] <nore> _Marcus, :) thanks
[04:31] <helloworld> when I try to download somthing my computer trys to connect to 192.0.0.1 and it is always saying a can't download something because it is from an unknown package
[04:32] <playit> !s merlin
[04:32] <helloworld> any suggestions?
[04:34] <helloworld> hello?
[04:34] <composite> hi
[04:34] <h00k> helloworld: it sounds like a DNS issue
[04:34] <Canadian1296> helloworld: I agree with h00k
[04:36] <sisar> i want Ubuntu to use the definition that 1KB=1024 bytes, and not 1000 bytes. How can I do this ? #oneiric
[04:36] <media> just installed XBMC on fresh minimal install. CPU usage is 100% when idling.
[04:36] <bazhang> media, installed from where
[04:37] <media> multimedia repos
[04:37] <qwonky> Hello
[04:37] <bazhang> !info xbmc
[04:37] <blud> how do you get into the terminal console when you're running an 11.10 live cd?
[04:37] <qwonky> I seem to be having a problem with running firewall status, whenever i launch conky, I get Conky: can't open /var/run/daemons/iptables: No such file or directory Conky: Could not open the file in the terminal, and my conky script looks like this  Firewall Status ${alignr}${if_existing  /var/run/daemons/iptables } Active${else}${alignr}Disabled$endif
[04:37] <helloworld> thank you,  what would fix the DNS problem or where could i find the info to do so
[04:37] <bazhang> media, no such package
[04:38] <bazhang> media, perhaps you mean a 3rd party repo or PPA
[04:39] <media> bazhang: 3rd party repo
[04:39] <bazhang> media, contact them
[04:42] <blud> is terminal not available on the 11.10 live cd?
[04:42] <blud> i cant find it
[04:42] <helloworld> blud, it should be
[04:43] <blud> how do i access it? (I think i know how and its not there, but yeah)
[04:43] <helloworld> created a shorcut on the desktop
[04:43] <helloworld> (launcher)
[04:43] <Berzerker> is it possible to have skype and another program output sound on the same input at the same time?
[04:44] <SuperSniper> What
[04:44] <Berzerker> same output*
[04:44] <Berzerker> sorry
[04:44] <SuperSniper> yes
[04:44] <urfr332gO> blud, crtl-alt-t
[04:44] <Berzerker> everytime I set one program (banshee) to my headset, skype stops working
[04:44] <danes> how can I clone a usb live persistant ubuntu version to a external harddrive? I have both unmounted and src=/dev/sdi1, dest=/dev/sdh1
[04:44] <helloworld> blud can you access it
[04:44] <blud> i tried ctrl-alt-t, nothing happens
[04:44] <Berzerker> when I set skype back to it, banshee stops working
[04:44] <myk_robinson> any of you using Ubuntu Server in a business setting?
[04:44] <SuperSniper> go to the sound settings
[04:45] <helloworld> make a gnome-terminal launcher
[04:45] <SuperSniper> and turn down banshee
[04:45] <urfr332gO> blud, bad burn maybe it should be in the dash.
[04:45] <blud> and if i type terminal in the new thingamagig nothing comes up for that
[04:45] <Berzerker> SuperSniper: if I set Skype to use my headset, banshee gets auto-set back to my speakers
[04:45] <samba35> trunk.if i have to configure trunk on linux ,what change i have to make in eth1 ? VLAN=yes and
[04:45] <mohan_> My Ubuntu is not showing up my two partitions
[04:45] <Berzerker> it's like skype wants to hog the output
[04:45] <mohan_> it used to show it before
[04:45] <mohan_> Any idea on how to bring it back ?
[04:46] <urfr332gO> mohan_, where are you looking?
[04:46] <mohan_> I am looking at the home folder
[04:46] <Berzerker> SuperSniper: any ideas?
[04:46] <mohan_> normally it's in the left panel
[04:46] <urfr332gO> mohan_, try the disk utility as far as looking at the HD
[04:46] <mohan_> let me check
[04:47] <mohan_> is it a built in utility ?
[04:47] <urfr332gO> mohan_, yeah
[04:47] <helloworld> does anyone know how to fix the DNS problems that i discussed earlier
[04:47] <mohan_> thanks
[04:47] <mohan_> let me check
[04:47] <leftist> Hey Seveas are you here?
[04:48] <helloworld> blud, did you find terminal
[04:48] <mohan_> Yes I got it now
[04:48] <mohan_> I had to manually mount it
[04:49] <urfr332gO> mohan_, had you added them to fstab?
[04:49] <mohan_> do i have to do this every time or Ubuntu can remember ?
[04:49] <mohan_> oh man..no idea on how to do it..i am a newbiew
[04:49] <mohan_> newbie*
[04:49] <urfr332gO> mohan_, are they NTFS partitions?
[04:50] <mohan_> Yes...NTFS
[04:50] <mohan_> :)
[04:50] <god-zotac> can i get some help here with using keybindings in XFCE on ubuntu 11.10?  i have the keybindings set but on my multimedia device it isn't recognizing them at as being pressed, however the xfce keyboard settings recognizes them as pressed, but they aren't effective, yet the same command i have mapped works if manually ran or if mapped to other keyboard key presses
[04:50] <urfr332gO> mohan_, ubuntu wont mount a internal partition automatically external will be though
[04:50] <mohan_> ok
[04:51] <mohan_> thank ou
[04:51] <mohan_> you*
[04:51] <urfr332gO> mohan_, should of been in home though you might run chkdsk if any are windows OS's
[04:52] <cfhowlett> urfr332gO   mohan chkdsk /f for the fixes...
[04:53] <Danny_Joris> Hi, I downloaded the musicbrainz VM and following the instructions here: http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainz_Server/Setup
[04:53] <Danny_Joris> I'm trying to get the IP address of my vm
[04:53] <hydrox24> god-zotac: what exactly is your multimedia device?
[04:53] <Danny_Joris> if I check with ifconfig, this is what I get for eth0 inet addr: fe80::a00:27ff:fe88:b42a/64
[04:53] <mohan_> ok
[04:53] <mohan_> thanks
[04:54] <matt-whi> How do I get a BCM4322 card working with Oneiric?
[04:54] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: its a usb headset with + and - for volume up and down
[04:54] <urfr332gO> Danny_Joris, not really supported here.
[04:54] <hydrox24> god-zotac: interesting, and xfce sees this as a keyboard?
[04:54] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: i have a bash script written to control pulse audio on the correct audio device
[04:54] <Blue1> Danny_Joris: ipv6?
[04:54] <Danny_Joris> urfr332gO: ubuntu server then?
[04:54] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: it sees the keypresses as XF86RaiseVolume or XF86LowerVolume
[04:54] <Danny_Joris> Blue1: inet6
[04:55] <cfhowlett> matt-whi  system>administration>hardware drivers should pick that up...
[04:55] <urfr332gO> Danny_Joris, if nobody helps I would try ##linux not sure really. :)
[04:55] <Blue1> Danny_Joris: out of my league...
[04:55] <god-zotac> or XF86AudioRaise  / XF86AudioLower i mean
[04:55] <Analica> hi alL!
[04:55] <Danny_Joris> ok cool - tnx
[04:55] <hydrox24> god-zotac: OK, and is the issue that when you press them, nothing happens to the volume?
[04:55] <playit> hey
[04:55] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: it works fine with the same headset on my gentoo box
[04:56] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: when i press them it isn't issuing the custom command i have set to be run, which is 'usbctl plus'
[04:56] <hydrox24> god-zotac: I have multimedia keys on my laptop mapped to those and they work great!
[04:56] <playit> im trying to figure out why samba does not work on my ubuntu 11.10 installation.. Only non stock thing I have done to it is 'gnome-shell' which is gnome 3.2
[04:56] <god-zotac> however manually running the command usbctl plus will increase the volume correctly, so i know its not my script
[04:56] <Analica> Please tell me a analog of TOR?
[04:57] <god-zotac> the onion router?
[04:57] <hydrox24> god-zotac: why do you need to have a script mapped, can't you just map the keys straight to XF86AudioLower etc
[04:57] <ablyss> whats a good midi program for ubuntu that does soundbanks or similar
[04:57] <Analica> Please tell me a analog of TOR?
[04:57] <Analica> how write scipt here?
[04:57] <_Marcus> Analica: What do you mean?
[04:57] <hydrox24> Analica: Please don't repeat yourself so quickly, also that question isn't ubuntu related
[04:57] <Analica> Please tell me a analog of TOR?
[04:57] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: because i want it to only increase volume or decrease volume on the headset, not the primary channel or other audio devices
[04:57] <Analica> toooor
[04:57] <_Marcus> !ot | Analica
[04:57] <Analica> ananimouse
[04:58] <Analica> analogue?
[04:58] <Analica> Whta?
[04:58] <Analica> ANALOG OF TOR!???
[04:58] <Canadian1296> Analica: Type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" then repeat your question there.
[04:59] <god-zotac> gosh Analica stfu, some people are actually wanting some real support here!
[04:59] <matt-whi> system>administrator>drivers not working for BCM4322. removed bcmkernel-source; installed fwcutter and installer, still nothing
[04:59] <hydrox24> Analica: This is not the placce to ask that question, you WILL be kicked
[04:59] <Analica> and here what?
[04:59] <_Marcus> Analica: maybe you're not getting this, a lot of people don't for some reason. This is the Ubuntu Support channel. Ubuntu-related questions are asked here.
[04:59] <Zac_o_O> hello
[04:59] <hydrox24> god-zotac: does it work fine when you map it straight to the XF86Audio thing
[05:00] <cfhowlett> matt-whi   I've had great success with the broadcom linux STA driver - You have to do some terminal work though ...
[05:00] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: it is not needing mapped, the odd thing is xfce recognizes the keypress as XF86Audio*
[05:00] <Analica> and where top channel?
[05:00] <Analica> tor
[05:00] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: it just is like there is some other XF86Audio* mapped somewhere outside of the Keyboard settings in xfce
[05:00] <matt-whi> cfhowlett- I would definitely prefer terminal work...tried a few things but am starting to go crazy. It's a fresh install of 11.10
[05:00] <Canadian1296> Analica: Go to #ubuntu-offtopic and stop replying here.
[05:00] <_Marcus> Analica: you are on the wrong IRC network.
[05:00] <hydrox24> so the issue is that it doesn't run the script, it just runs the XF86Audio things?
[05:00] <_Marcus> Analica: irc.oftc.net is what you are looking for
[05:01] <_Marcus> Analica: There you will find the channel #tor
[05:01] <Analica> HI ALL!!! MY NAME IS ICA!!! AND I LOVE...
[05:01] <_Marcus> ...what
[05:01] <hydrox24> can someone kick Analica please... this is getting annoying
[05:01] <cfhowlett> matt-whi   see http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[05:01] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: it just recognizes the input from the headset as XF86Audio  in the keyboard settings in xfce.. but it doesn't seem to recognize them when really pressed
[05:01] <f20062e> LOL # analica....troll
[05:01] <cfhowlett> ...and it begins...
[05:01] <Canadian1296> hydrox24: How do we call an operator?
[05:01] <hydrox24> !ops
[05:02] <_Marcus> !ops
[05:02] <Canadian1296> !ops
[05:02] <hydrox24> Don't normally do that though, just "/ignore" Analica
[05:02] <matt-whi> chowlett: checking now
[05:02] <god-zotac> can Analica not just grow up and respect the other people here? i mean what the heck does someone get out of being so immature and childish
[05:02] <Canadian1296> Lol oops. I didn't see two others already did it...
[05:02] <hydrox24> remember that Ops are real people and probs don't like being bothered
[05:02] <hydrox24> yeh Canadian1296 that's ok
[05:03] <Flannel> !tor | Analica
[05:03] <hydrox24> god-zotac: sorry, gotta get this straight, so pressing the key on the headset does the XF86Audio thing butn that isn't what you want? Or does it not do anything?
[05:03] <cfhowlett> matt-whi   my suggestion:  do the process then save it in a dropbox or something.  I just re-installed ubuntustudio a few hours ago - lost the wifi.  However, I had saved the folders in my admin /home.  a bit of modprobe and insmod and it turns out I DIDN'T have to go scavenge wifi at Staples - it all came back swimmingly.
[05:04]  * ablyss is having fun with openshot video editor
[05:04] <Analica> hydrox24, are you FAP (full a person)?
[05:04] <god-zotac> hydrox24::  it recognizes it as XF86AudioRaise when I press the + but only in the XFCE Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts,  when i map the command to that it does not run the command, however if i map say ctrl + up to the same command, it works fine..
[05:05] <god-zotac> it is like something else is taking precedence over my custom mapping and not allowing my command to be ran, when i press the button i will see the active window title blink like it is doing something, but it does nothing..
[05:06] <matt-whi> ok, I have the STA driver installed plus fwcutter and still nothing. When I activate STA it says "wireless is disabled by hardware switch." rkill list says "Hard blocked: YES"
[05:06] <hydrox24> god-zotac: very strange indeed
[05:06] <hydrox24> matt-whi: do you have a function key to turn on/off wifi?
[05:06] <cfhowlett> matt-whi   pretty sure it's one or the other, i.e. the instructions to black list and rmmod previous drivers...
[05:06] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: and like i said,  on my gentoo install using the same settings, same headset, it works as i'd want
[05:07] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: but on ubuntu, it seems to do nothing. i don't know if i need some kind of keybinding daemon to be running or if some other binding is already mapped to the XF86Audio*  that I am trying to use.
[05:07] <hydrox24> god-zotac: Well, that issue is strange indeed, what about trying a different WM (It probably wont' change it so fon
[05:07] <poyntz> I tried to convert a 32 gb flash drive to hfs and now I can't open or format it
[05:07] <poyntz> please help
[05:07] <hydrox24> god-zotac: Well, that issue is strange indeed, what about trying a different WM (It probably wont' change it so don't go to too much trouble)
[05:07] <hydrox24> poyntz: when you plug it in, what happens?
[05:07] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: i'd rather get it working with xfce. i don't want to change wm's over this issue lol
[05:08] <hydrox24> god-zotac: that's fine, I understand
[05:09] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: take a look at this, it seems to be related:  http://linux.bigresource.com/Debian-Multimedia-XF86Audio-multimedia-keys-not-working-in-Squeeze-EHYAJ1tc9.html
[05:09] <hydrox24> god-zotac: doing now.
[05:10] <dipix> poyntz: do you own a Mac?
[05:11] <_Marcus> dipix: a better question would be, do you have any machines running OS X
[05:11] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: too bad, i have xfce4-volumed installed already
[05:11] <Canadian1296> _Marcus: Haha I have a Mac, but I've always wanted a hackintosh
[05:11] <Analica> Help ME please me bad englesh and i cunt enter in my Ubuntu (((
[05:12] <cfhowlett> !ops
[05:12] <_Marcus> Analica: What is your native language?
[05:12] <hydrox24> cfhowlett: what are you doing that for?
[05:12] <cfhowlett> _Marcus   trolling
[05:12] <Analica> I cunt enter in Ubuntu (((
[05:12] <hydrox24> everyone should just do: "/ignore Analica"
[05:12] <_Marcus> cfhowlett: How do you know?
[05:12] <Analica> Russian
[05:12] <dipix> _Marcus: Ahh! forgot about the hackintosh community
[05:12] <brightspark> cfhowlett, not speaking good english is not trolling
[05:12] <hydrox24> that's what I did :)
[05:12] <_Marcus> Analica: You would be better off in another channel
[05:12] <_Marcus> !ru | Analica
[05:13] <brightspark> Analica, it is #ubuntu-ru I think
[05:13] <dipix> but that's irrelevant at the moment
[05:13] <Analica> there are no people ((
[05:13] <Canadian1296> brightspark: But he was trolling.
[05:14] <Analica> i cunt enter help here me please
[05:14] <Canadian1296> Analica: There are 62 members.
[05:14] <Analica> bots
[05:14] <Analica> see names
[05:14] <Canadian1296> Analica: It is spelled "can't"
[05:14] <bobo37773> any way to change from military time in evolution email client? I mean in the per email header that is.
[05:14] <dipix> cunt! hahahahahaha
[05:14] <bobo37773> haha
[05:15] <brightspark> misspelling =/= troll
[05:15] <Analica> yes i cunt (((
[05:15] <hydrox24> dipix: watch the language
[05:15] <poyntz> sorry to all who were trying to help me before
[05:15] <_Marcus> Who was dipix?
[05:15] <poyntz> for some reason my pc randomly rebooted
[05:15] <Canadian1296> There's no way he's not doing that intentionally. I already gave him the correct spelling.
[05:15] <poyntz> don't remember telling it to
[05:15] <bobo37773> poyntz: thats not good
[05:16] <_Marcus> poyntz: What was your problem you were having again?
[05:16] <f10ppiek0k> anyone in here good with pcaps?
[05:16] <webspyder> tcpdump?
[05:16] <_Marcus> !anyone | fl0ppiek0k
[05:16] <hydrox24> !pcaps
[05:16] <webspyder> or wireshark?
[05:16] <poyntz> _Marcus: after installing the packages hfsplus, hfsutils and hfsprogs i opened gparted and tried to format my 32 gb usb stick to hfs+
[05:16] <f10ppiek0k> both
[05:17] <f10ppiek0k> how can i select all packets and extract the raw data
[05:17] <hydrox24> poyntz: when you plug it in, what happens?
[05:17] <poyntz> _Marcus: unfortunately, this just made the usb stick inaccessible, and I'm not unable to format it back to nfts
[05:17] <poyntz> *now unable
[05:17] <Canadian1296> webspyder: What do you need to know about wireshark?
[05:17] <_Marcus> poyntz: Do you have a machine running OS X?
[05:17] <Athanasius>  /37
[05:17] <cfhowlett> poyntz   I trashed  an 8g stick cross using btw OSX and Ubuntu.  Never did get it working again, couldn't format either.
[05:18] <poyntz> hydrox24: when I plug it in it shows up as a mountable removable media
[05:18] <webspyder> f10ppiek0k needs to know not me
[05:18] <globalrick> test
[05:18] <poyntz> hydrox24: when i try to mount it i get an error
[05:18] <dipix> this is what I was laughing at (Analica> i cunt enter help here me please) thanks for kicking me out
[05:18] <poyntz> _Marcus: no I don't :/
[05:18] <bobo37773> globalrick: I see you test worked
[05:18] <_Marcus> mmm
[05:18] <_Marcus> poyntz: Can you format it as FAT32?
[05:18] <pangolin> dipix: you clearly didn't read the guidelines did you
[05:18] <poyntz> cfhowlett: i'm hoping that doesn't happen to me
[05:19] <globalrick> bobo - yeah haha. I just got xchat on my ubuntu computer
[05:19] <poyntz> _Marcus: I tried but no luck
[05:19] <_Marcus> poyntz: Can you format it as anything?
[05:19] <f10ppiek0k> i need to strip all packet headers from a pcap file so that i am left with the raw data
[05:19] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: i figured it out,  my problem was actually just the opposite of that guys post i linked you to. removing xfce4-volumed fixed it and allowed my command to execute normally
[05:19] <hydrox24> poyntz: you don't need to mount it to reformat it with gparted
[05:19] <hydrox24> god-zotac: nice!
[05:19] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: i was almost sure that something was interfering with the mappings, and it was xfce4-volumed :)
[05:19] <hydrox24> god-zotac: I'm proud of you ^.^
[05:20] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: i will pastebin my script so you can have a clearer understanding of what i was trying to accomplish
[05:20] <blud> on 11.10 ubuntu live cd, it does see my VGA out to my TV
[05:20] <blud> but on 10.04 mythbuntu it doesnt seem to see it
[05:20] <poyntz> _Marcus: when I try it says it's been formatted
[05:20] <blud> any chance i can get it working on the 10.04 mythbuntu?
[05:20] <poyntz> _Marcus: but if I close and reopen gparted it shows it as hfs again
[05:20] <_Marcus> poyntz: Does it give you the option to format over that format?
[05:21] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: https://gist.github.com/1862119
[05:22] <Berzerker> everytime I skip a song in banshee, it sets the audio output back to the default, any way to lock it?
[05:22] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: raw data as in hex?
[05:22] <poyntz> _Marcus: yep
[05:23] <DrDnar1> Anybody know a lot about SSH?
[05:23] <f10ppiek0k> raw as in raw....if you cat out hex you get hex... if you select a frame and hit ctrl+h to save the raw to disk ...then cat that out you will see what i mean
[05:23] <_Marcus> !anyone | DrDnar
[05:23] <dipix> O_o
[05:23] <f10ppiek0k> i can do it one frame at a time
[05:23] <poyntz> _Marcus: if I delete the partition, what will happen?
[05:23] <_Marcus> poyntz: it will wipe all data on that partition
[05:23] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: ok let me check
[05:23] <f10ppiek0k> but dang that is not the best way to do it with 27kb at 528bytes per frame
[05:24] <poyntz> _Marcus: is that all?
[05:24] <_Marcus> poyntz: Yeah
[05:24] <poyntz> _Marcus: like I'm not too fazed about the data
[05:24] <poyntz> _Marcus: I just want my 32gb stick mountable again
[05:24] <_Marcus> poyntz: Just repartition it
[05:24] <poyntz> _Marcus: what do you mean?
[05:25] <_Marcus> poyntz: Remove the current partition on it, and put a new one on it
[05:25] <_Marcus> poyntz: What are you going to use it for?
[05:25] <_Marcus> poyntz: Booting?
[05:25] <poyntz> _Marcus: I get an input/output error
[05:25] <poyntz> _Marcus: when I try to delete the partition
[05:25] <_Marcus> poyntz: Idk
[05:26] <poyntz> _Marcus: I want to use it for booting Mac OS X
[05:26] <_Marcus> poyntz: Ah.
[05:26] <jgcampbell300> can anyone tell my why i keep getting memory error with php ... i have changed it to 256M memory but it still runs out at less than 1M ... im useing nginx
[05:26] <_Marcus> poyntz: I think you have to have their partition it
[05:26] <jgcampbell300> with php5
[05:26] <_Marcus> poyntz: Mac OS Extended with Journaling
[05:26] <_Marcus> Anyway, I'm off
[05:26] <_Marcus> Goodbye, all
[05:27] <jgcampbell300> i keep getting 502 Bad Gateway
[05:27] <DrDnar> Oh, fine, _Marcus . . . Here comes a paragraph: I'm trying to set up a computer to accept incoming SSH connections for a single user from a computer with PuTTY. I generated a private key with ssh-keygen, copied the private key to the computer I want to SSH from, converted it into a .ppk file with puttygen, and can't login.
[05:28] <pnorman> DrDnar: did it work from the computer you generated the private key on?
[05:28] <DrDnar> ssh localhost gives me another shell, so I assume so.
[05:28] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: So do you mean all of the symbols and stuff when using cat on the pcap file?
[05:29] <f10ppiek0k> yep
[05:29] <chachin> dang 1340 users
[05:29] <f10ppiek0k> i need the raw
[05:29] <chachin> ok
[05:29] <f10ppiek0k> so i can file carve on the "stream"
[05:29] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: If you use "strings" instead of cat will that give you what you need?
[05:29] <chachin> http://i.imgur.com/Yr8mz.png  << i was trying to do a vps and when im on the step to put my name.. i misspelled it and wheni hit back space.. it did this
[05:29] <chachin> on ubuntu
[05:29] <f10ppiek0k> no i have to extract a word document
[05:30] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: oh I get it
[05:30] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: Are you doing a challenge?
[05:30] <poyntz> *hackintosh
[05:30] <poyntz> gah
[05:30] <poyntz> this stick was $65 - what a waste
[05:30] <poyntz> wish i new how to fix the hfsplus package on oneric so it doesn't do it to anyone else
[05:30] <FloodBot1> poyntz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:30] <DrDnar> pnorman, ssh localhost gives me another shell, so it's working. For the record, the computer is currently connected locally through a network switch.
[05:30] <f10ppiek0k> if i carve out the files using the pcap it sees the magic bytes....and saves a zip file...but i have the frame data inside the file so it is corrupt
[05:31] <hydrox24> poyntz: Can YOU HEAR ME?
[05:31] <f10ppiek0k> bobo37773 yes
[05:31] <hydrox24> poyntz: you don't need to mount it to reformat it with gparted
[05:31] <poyntz> hydrox24: sorry, what did you say?
[05:31] <hydrox24> poyntz: you don't need to mount it to reformat it with gparted
[05:31] <poyntz> hydrox24: i know this
[05:31] <poyntz> hydrox24: i never mounted
[05:31] <hydrox24> why can't you just reformat it then>
[05:31] <poyntz> hydrox24: i'm not able to mount it
[05:31] <poyntz> it won't mount
[05:31] <pnorman> DrDnar: try turning on logging with putty
[05:31] <hydrox24> poyntz: that doesn't matter.
[05:31] <hydrox24> just plug it in and open gparted
[05:32] <poyntz> hydrox24: i'm not sure
[05:32] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: There is a way to copy the data from wireshark into a text editor. after that save it as the correct file extension. are you able to follow the stream all the way?
[05:32] <hydrox24> poyntz: about?
[05:32] <poyntz> hydrox24: i've tried and it keeps giving me errors
[05:32] <f10ppiek0k> bobo37773: no
[05:32] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: did you check out my script for the volume control through pulse audio on the headset?
[05:32] <hydrox24> poyntz: like?
[05:32] <hydrox24> god-zotac: no sorry, missed it
[05:32] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: No you can't follow the stream?
[05:32] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: https://gist.github.com/1862135
[05:32] <poyntz> sudo gparted
[05:32] <poyntz> sorry
[05:33] <f10ppiek0k> bobo37773: no
[05:33] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: Which challenge?
[05:33] <hydrox24> poyntz: sorry?
[05:33] <f10ppiek0k> bobo37773: i wish i could i would not be on here
[05:33] <DrDnar> pnorman, thanks, it works now. But why does logging make it work?
[05:33] <poyntz> hydrox24: Could not detect file system.
[05:33] <poyntz> Input/output error during write on /dev/sdb
[05:33] <poyntz> Error fsyncing/closing /dev/sdb: Input/output error
[05:34] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: Which challenge? Where from?
[05:34] <f10ppiek0k> bobo37773: why... ;)
[05:34] <BoomerBile> what user/group does apache2 run as by default?
[05:34] <pnorman> DrDnar: i wasn't expecting it to make it work. my guess is that some other putty setting changed at the same time. you have to specify the putty key in the connection options under connection > ssh > auth
[05:35] <f20062e> BoomerBile : www-data
[05:35] <hydrox24> poyntz: if you don't care about the data on the device then try "mkfs.ext2 /dev/sdb"
[05:35] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: Cause if its the one over at security override it cannot be done without wordpad in windows. I tried every way in linux
[05:35] <BoomerBile> f20062e, thanks
[05:35] <f20062e> BoomerBile : np
[05:35] <f10ppiek0k> oh no this is a capture the flag comp
[05:35] <hydrox24> poyntz: be very careful to type the right device, it could wipe your HDD if you get it wrong
[05:35] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: Oh gotcha
[05:35] <hydrox24> god-zotac: nice job, awesome script man!
[05:35] <f10ppiek0k> so you got any ideas?
[05:36] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: upload the file somewhere Ill look at it if you want
[05:36] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: it works great when using a headset for voip calls
[05:36] <f10ppiek0k> where is a good place...since megaupload went down
[05:36] <god-zotac> f10ppiek0k:: mediafire.com
[05:37] <hydrox24> god-zotac: Unfortunately,  I use earphones which have the earphone output part for the iphone (3 sections to the 3.5mm jack)
[05:37] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: really? megaupload down? for good? bummer. I dont know whereever
[05:37] <poyntz> hydrox24: it didn't change anything
[05:37] <Ben64> poyntz: what did it say
[05:37] <matt-whi> How do I solve the problem: WIRELESS NETWORKS DISCONNECTED in the dropdown? I have BCM4322 card: 1) Broadcom STA wireless driver activated; firmwareb43-installer is installed; b43-fwcutter is installed; Enable Wireless is checked
[05:37] <hydrox24> bobo37773: http://arstechnica.com/search/#megaupload
[05:37] <hydrox24> poyntz: did nothing happen?
[05:37] <god-zotac> hydrox24::  does your headset have volume control buttons on it though?
[05:38] <DrDnar> pnorman: Freaky.
[05:38] <jgcampbell300> can anyone help me with this PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 262144 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 261900 bytes) in Unknown on line 0
[05:38] <jgcampbell300> Could not startup.
[05:38] <hydrox24> god-zotac: yes, but I think that they are designed to output data to the iDevices, not normal laptop line-outs
[05:38] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: my headset is a playstation 3 headset, i had to tweak kernel drivers and hw vendor id's just to get it to work lol
[05:38] <hydrox24> !ot jgcampbell300
[05:38] <hydrox24> !ot | jgcampbell300
[05:38] <poyntz> Ben64 hydrox24 : http://paste.kde.org/425138/
[05:38] <matt-whi> Sorry, the issue is "Wireless networks device not ready;" using a BCM4322
[05:39] <god-zotac> hydrox24:: i done a writeup on this headset a few months ago on linuxquestions.org   it is a great headset to use with linux
[05:39] <Ben64> poyntz: doesn't look bad
[05:39] <f10ppiek0k> bobo37773:   http://www.mediafire.com/file/udpxf4ucmq64mc1/pcapfile.pcap
[05:39] <Gaflana> Hi all! have questions
[05:39] <matt-whi> cfhowlett - still stuck - STA is installed but still having issues
[05:39] <hydrox24> !someone | Gaflana
[05:40] <poyntz> Ben64 hydrox24 : I still can't mount it
[05:41] <hydrox24> poyntz: what was the output of the command?
[05:41] <Gaflana> Ubuntu have special editions?
[05:41] <Ben64> poyntz: pastebin fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[05:41] <hydrox24> !details | Gaflana
[05:41] <cfhowlett> Gaflana   every edition is "special" = what do you want to do?
[05:41] <poyntz> hydrox24: http://paste.kde.org/425138/
[05:41] <hydrox24> Gaflana: what about special editions?
[05:41] <hydrox24> poyntz: TY
[05:42] <poyntz> Ben64: Cannot open /dev/sdb1
[05:42] <poyntz> Cannot open /dev/sdb1
[05:42] <poyntz> - sorry
[05:42] <Gaflana> Special edition of Ubuntu for gays...
[05:42] <poyntz> double paste
[05:42] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: got it. looking at it now...
[05:42] <Gaflana> double past is good yes
[05:42] <sahil_> hi
[05:42] <Ben64> poyntz: sudo, and i said /dev/sdb not sdb1 :)
[05:43] <bobo37773> hydrox24: thanks. good site. bookmarked
[05:43] <hydrox24> poyntz: try "sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1"
[05:43] <poyntz> Ben64: sudo: /dev/sdb: command not found
[05:43] <hydrox24> bobo37773: yeh, I love ars
[05:43] <Ben64> poyntz: ...
[05:43] <Gaflana> Ubuntu have a special edition of Ubuntu for gays?
[05:43] <cfhowlett> Gaflana   no.
[05:43] <Gaflana> Ubuntu have a special edition for gays?
[05:43] <Ben64> poyntz: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb"
[05:43] <Gaflana> why?
[05:43] <sahil_> i am having some fgrlx driver problem
[05:43] <poyntz> Ben64: poyntz@poyntz-compaq-621:~/Desktop$ "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb"
[05:43] <poyntz> bash: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb: No such file or directory
[05:44] <cfhowlett> Gaflana   feel free to create your own...
[05:44] <hydrox24> Can everyone please run "/ignore Gaflana"
[05:44] <Gaflana> But have satanic edition...
[05:44] <Gaflana> And for gays why not?
[05:44] <Veritas> !join mert
[05:44] <Ben64> Veritas: /join
[05:44] <Ben64> poyntz: don't use the quotes.....
[05:45] <Gaflana> Oh my own...
[05:45] <matt-whi> Removing bcmwl-kernel-source
[05:45] <sahil_> i am having some fgrlx driver problem in oneric
[05:45] <Gaflana> UbuntuGayOS?
[05:45] <poyntz> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/848138/
[05:45] <sahil_> plz shut up gaflana
[05:45] <Gaflana> I must use "Remi" in name?
[05:45] <hydrox24> sahil_: don't feed the trolls
[05:46] <Gaflana> sahil_, why?
[05:46] <Gaflana> sahil_, You are a muslim?
[05:46] <meskarune> Gaflana: why don't you make the gay edition of ubuntu?
[05:46] <f20062e> what i want to know is how did the trolls get out of WOW?
[05:46] <urfr332gO> !op Gaflana
[05:46] <sahil_> ok hydrox24
[05:46] <Gaflana> fu muslim and stfu!!!
[05:46] <Ben64> if you ignore them, they go away
[05:46] <secnoob> whats wrong with muslims?
[05:46] <urfr332gO> !op
[05:47] <sahil_> i am having some fgrlx driver problem in oneric can anybody help to sort out the matter?
[05:47] <matt-whi> Not sure if this problem is fixed in UbuntuGayOS or UbuntuDevilOS or whatever, but why won't BCM4322 card connect on 11.10?
[05:48] <poyntz> hydrox24: http://paste.kde.org/425144/
[05:49] <zykotick9> !broadcom | matt-whi have you seen?
[05:49] <Berzerker> does anyone know of a way for me to have skype output over the same output as other applications (such as music) etc.
[05:49] <Berzerker> when I set skype to a specific output, all other sounds cut out
[05:49] <Berzerker> (which are using that output)
[05:50] <poyntz> hydrox24: still doesn't mount :(
[05:50] <matt-whi> zykotick9 / ubottu: Here is setup: 1) bcmwl-kernel-source removed; 2) b43 fwcutter installed; 3) firmware b43-installer installed - wireless option does not appear in dropdown
[05:50] <poyntz> Ben64: did that output tell you anything you didn't already know?
[05:50] <zykotick9> matt-whi: i have no futher input (don't have that chipset), and ubottu is a bot.
[05:51] <sahil_> @ubonttu can u help in fixing video driver problem?
[05:51] <matt-whi> zykotick tx; going crazy over here though
[05:51] <zykotick9> !tab > matt-whi
[05:52] <urfr332gO> sahil_, ubottum is a bot and you would use a tab complete for a nic not @.
[05:53] <cfhowlett> matt-whi It's my understanding that the linux sta will conflict with any/all other wifi drivers.
[05:53] <poyntz> Ben6 hydrox24 : if I run mount out of shell I get: hfs: unable to find HFS+ superblock
[05:53] <matt-whi> chhowlett- my understanding too. I disabled it on an install on a different system and it solved the problem. On this system, it's not helping though
[05:54] <poyntz> Ben64 hydrox24 : even after running your commands
[05:54] <gordon1234> matt-whi, I had a similar issue with my BCM4211. Is your wi-fi light on when you boot up? It there a hardware wi-fi switch? I only had sucess with the B43 driver, after removing all fwctutter and firmware.
[05:55] <cfhowlett> matt-whi   ok.  pretty sure there's a solution, but I don't know where.  Ask the experts here or on the forums...
[05:55] <zowsz> good bye all
[05:55] <matt-whi> cfhowlett - no problem, thank you for all of your help!
[05:55] <poyntz> Ben64 hydrox24 : and the hfs+ filesystem won't even mount on Mac OS
[05:55] <gordon1234> matt-whi *is there a hardware switch?
[05:56] <matt-whi> gordon1234; hardware wifi switch is on, Linux STA is disabled
[05:56] <gordon1234> matt-whi, can you check if you have anything blacklisted?
[05:56] <matt-whi> gordon1234 - can you tell me the terminal command for that by chance?
[05:57] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: pretty rough file. any clues at all? the whole thing looks like straight hex garbage? you are sure it is a .doc file?
[05:57] <f10ppiek0k> yeah
[05:57] <f10ppiek0k> bob37773: the comp is to find pdfs and docs on a server
[05:57] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: yeah? you mean you are sure it is .doc? is that what yeah means?
[05:58] <zykotick9> matt-whi: to check for blacklists "cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf" might work
[05:58] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: so there are multiple files in this one capture?
[05:58] <f10ppiek0k> bob37773: if you use foremost on the pcap file you will get a few jpgs and a zip
[05:58] <matt-whi> zykotick9...running now
[05:58] <f10ppiek0k> bob37773: the most recent versions of office use zip files with diffrent extenstions
[05:59] <f10ppiek0k> bob37773: which is why foremost sees them as zip
[05:59] <f10ppiek0k> bob37773: you should be able to unzip any 2007 doc and docx file
[06:00] <matt-whi> zykotick9, pretty sure this is the issue since I tried it a while back but this terminal command isn't working. Googling now to figure out how to check if I'm blacklisted in the terminal
[06:00] <f10ppiek0k> bob37773: however, if you foremost carve the zip from the pcap and attempt to unzip it you endup with it saying there are more bytes than need to be
[06:00] <f10ppiek0k> so i need to strip all packet data from the pcap
[06:00] <gordon1234> matt-whi, is the wi-fi LED light on?
[06:01] <zykotick9> matt-whi: sorry my suggestion didn't work (different distros).  i'm no help with your wireless issue, just saw the blacklist question and through it out there.  good luck.
[06:01] <f10ppiek0k> leaving me with only the zip...i did notice a little bit after the file starts in the stream that all the packets are ~520 bytes....except for one that is 84
[06:01] <matt-whi> zykotick9, I think you're right, though...because I did this check a couple of hours ago and it did say I was blacklisted...can't remember the terminal command though - !
[06:01] <matt-whi> gordon1234, I have a wifi switch and it's on; the LED light has flashed also
[06:02] <f10ppiek0k> i thought about padding it until it meets the zip file requirements in the beginning of the zip file definition.
[06:02] <matt-whi> How do I check if I'm blacklisted?
[06:02] <mcurran> Is there a way to do a full-upgrade, but ignore a few packages, like the linux-image and kernel upgrade package?  I want all the updated software, but don't want to get the kernel it's pointing to.
[06:02] <mcurran> I tried doing aptitude hold, but that didn't work
[06:02] <gordon1234> matt-whi, cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:02] <mcurran> now I gotta worry about finding where those held packages are and unhold them
[06:03] <gordon1234> matt-whi, sorry to keep asking, but is the wi-fi LED on constantly?
[06:03] <zykotick9> !pinning | mcurran something i haven't played with, but i believe pinning allows for version preferences, good luck.
[06:04] <matt-whi> gordon1234, no, actually it's not on constantly; it's flickered on though periodically
[06:04] <matt-whi> zykotick9, that terminal command returns: "No such file or directory" I'm on Oneiric, does that help?
[06:05] <zykotick9> matt-whi: sorry i don't have access to an ubuntu install to check?  someone else needs to help you...
[06:05] <matt-whi> zykotick9, thank you for all your help, very much appreciate it!
[06:05] <matt-whi> What is the terminal command to check blacklists on 11.10 Oneiric?
[06:08] <Gaflana> I am obliged to use the word "Remix" in the title of the distribution?
[06:08] <zykotick9> matt-whi: does this list anything "ls /etc/modprobe.d/black*"?
[06:09] <matt-whi> zykotick9, no, I don't have an etc dir
[06:09] <Gaflana> HI ALL!!! HELP PLEASE!!!
[06:09] <zykotick9> matt-whi: OK!  good luck then, i'm done.
[06:09] <Gaflana> I am obliged to use the word "Remix" in the title of the distribution?
[06:09] <Gaflana> I am obliged to use the word "Remix" in the title of the my own distribution?
[06:09] <Ben64> !ot | Gaflana
[06:09] <matt-whi> zykotick9--I hear ya...I'm about 5 minutes away from buying Windows 8...joke joke joke
[06:10] <Gaflana> I am obliged to use the word "Remix" in the title of the my own distribution BASED ON UBUNTU?
[06:10] <gordon1234>  matt-whi, cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and see if you BCM driver is in there
[06:10] <Ben64> Gaflana: this is a support channel, this isn't the place for that question, also don't spam
[06:10] <zykotick9> gordon1234: without a /etc directory that will be difficult ;)
[06:11] <Gaflana> its not spam
[06:11] <Gaflana> I want make distr base on Ubuntu
[06:11] <Ben64> when you ask the same thing 4 times in 2 minutes it is spam
[06:11] <zykotick9> Gaflana: it's also not a technical support question
[06:11] <gordon1234> zykotick9, eh? no /etc directory, are you serious?
[06:12] <Gaflana> Where to ask legal questions?
[06:12] <matt-whi> when I do ls, I don't see an etc dir, i must be missing something really basic
[06:12] <zykotick9> gordon1234: that's the last report?
[06:13] <hiexpo> legak ?'s
[06:13] <hiexpo> legal <
[06:13] <Ben64> matt-whi: "ls / | grep etc"
[06:13] <Gaflana> Where to ask legal questions?
[06:13] <gordon1234> matt-whi, cd /etc/modprobe.d
[06:13] <Gaflana> jurisprudence
[06:13] <Ben64> Gaflana: not here
[06:13] <Gaflana> And here?
[06:13] <Gaflana> And where?
[06:13] <hiexpo> probally at the law office
[06:14] <mputtr> retain yourself a lawyer
[06:14] <matt-whi> for "ls / | grep etc" returns : "bash: ls/: No such file or directory"
[06:14] <Ben64> matt-whi: there needs to be a space between ls and /
[06:14] <virtuaposta> matt-whi, give space in between ls and / :)
[06:15] <Gaflana> Beh64, what may you say about my name?
[06:15] <Gaflana> nice?
[06:15] <matt-whi> well...that did something different...red etc just appeared
[06:15] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: Sorry. I cannot even figure out how you decoded this thing.
[06:15] <matt-whi> should I run the modprobe command now?
[06:15] <helo> i just installed a new motherboard, and now jackd isn't working... is there some config file with settings for my old audio driver that i need to modify?
[06:15] <Ben64> matt-whi: that means you do in fact have an /etc directory
[06:16] <cfhowlett> helo   new mobo probably = new install...
[06:16] <Gaflana> Ben64, what may you say about my name?
[06:16] <Ben64> !ot | Gaflana
[06:16] <helo> cfhowlett: everything works flawlessly :/
[06:16] <helo> aside from jack, at least
[06:16] <Gaflana> ot?
[06:16] <Gaflana> = nice?
[06:16] <Ben64> offtopic, take the banter elsewhere
[06:16] <cfhowlett> helo   exactly...
[06:16] <Ben64> this is a support channel ONLY.
[06:16] <f10ppiek0k> bobo37773: i opened the pcap in a hex editor and wireshark....started looking for bytes that matched
[06:16] <helo> complete reinstall just to get jack working? :/
[06:17] <helo> sounds like a windows kind of fix heh
[06:17] <mputtr> can you refresh the driver?
[06:17] <mputtr> have it rescan drivers?
[06:17] <hiexpo> !ot | Gaflana
[06:17] <cfhowlett> helo   you could try purging all jack and then reinstalling.
[06:17] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: You said earlier that you did not include the last packet because of its size right? Maybe thats the problem.
[06:17] <Gaflana> Ben64, Do you like my name? Seriously nice? yes?
[06:17] <f10ppiek0k> no i did
[06:18] <bobo37773> oh ok
[06:18] <Ben64> Gaflana: stop.
[06:18] <hiexpo> kick
[06:18] <matt-whi> Ben64, ok I am in /etc/modprobe.d; what command do I type now
[06:18] <Gaflana> Ben64, just i jew...
[06:18] <Gaflana> am
[06:18] <mputtr> *facepalm*
[06:19] <f10ppiek0k> i basically need to strip the ethernet frame from it
[06:19] <Ben64> matt-whi: dunno, i wasn't the one who told you to do anything with that, i just showed you that you have /etc
[06:19] <matt-whi> ben64, haha ok.
[06:19] <matt-whi> How do I run the command "blacklist.conf" from the terminal?
[06:19] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: Yeah I'm lost. I guess it is above my skill level
[06:19] <Ben64> matt-whi: its not a command, its a config file
[06:19] <Blue1> matt-whi: you don't run a config file
[06:19] <f10ppiek0k> i have been on this one flag for hours
[06:20] <meskarune> matt-whi: do "locate blacklist.conf" to find it
[06:20] <Gaflana> Ben64, have dinner together? ...
[06:20] <hiexpo> matt-whi, that is not a terminal command
[06:20] <Blue1> meskarune: assumes that locate is installed.
[06:20] <meskarune> ubuntu doesn't come with locate installed....?
[06:20] <Gaflana> please
[06:21] <cfhowlett> meskarune   shows up in mine...
[06:21] <hiexpo> matt-whi, google blackilisting a driver
[06:21] <Blue1> meskarune: mine didnot.
[06:21] <meskarune> weird
[06:21] <Ben64> meskarune: i believe it does
[06:21] <meskarune> I thought it was...
[06:21] <Ben64> or at least mine did
[06:21] <b__> Anyone willing to help?
[06:21] <meskarune> I use it all the time to find paths to files
[06:22] <Gaflana> Ben64, you can help me with it? Seriously please? please answer?
[06:22] <cfhowlett> !ask|b__
[06:22] <Blue1> meskarune: you know about updatedb right?
[06:22] <Gaflana> cfhowlett, and you can help me please (?
[06:23] <Gaflana> :(
[06:23] <hiexpo> who'srunning shop tonight ?
[06:23] <Blue1> no one
[06:23] <Canadian1296> b__: We are (mostly) all willing to help. Ask away
[06:23] <Gaflana> i am...
[06:23] <meskarune> yes Blue1
[06:24] <Gaflana> I bought a rubber ...
[06:24] <Blue1> meskarune: cool -
[06:24] <meskarune> you can't use locate without knowing that
[06:24] <hiexpo> ping pangolin
[06:24] <Blue1> meskarune: nope
[06:24] <Gaflana> I bought new a rubber ... strawberries ...
[06:24] <b__> I have connected a bluetooth devise via blueman, and enabled pulseaudio plugin, in the sound settings I can see the bt input and the volume level changing, but can hear no sound. I checked puvu control, and the alsa mixer, nothing is muted. I ran a sound record, which actually recorded the audio I could not hear
[06:25] <meskarune> I'm really not a fan of pulse audio. lol
[06:25] <meskarune> causes so many problmes
[06:25] <b__> what are my other options...
[06:26] <matt-whi> gordon1234, no the light isn't on constanly, every once in a while it blinks
[06:26] <matt-whi> zykotick9, ok finally got the blacklist to work. It returns: "# replaced by b43 and ssb. blacklist bcm43xx"
[06:26] <hiexpo> thanx
[06:27] <meskarune> b__ I think gnome requires pulse audio, but there is also oss and alsa
[06:28] <matt-whi> What does "blacklist bcm43xx" mean and is this why my bcm4322 won't work for wireless?
[06:28] <nathan28> meskarune: i think we should let the guy who coded pulseaudio also code a replacement for init, it'll be great
[06:28] <nathan28> meskarune: whoops wrong channel
[06:28] <meskarune> lol
[06:28] <nathan28> n/m everyone carry on
[06:28] <hiexpo> matt-whi, blacklisting is stoping a driver fromloading
[06:29] <terminhell> hi all
[06:29] <matt-whi> hiexpo, how do I get it to work? Here is my setup: 1) BCM4322; 2) firmware-b43 installer installed; 3) b43-fwcutter installed; 4)bcmwl-kernel-source removed
[06:30] <cfhowlett> terminhell   greetings
[06:30] <Canadian1296> I have a .deb file. How do I install it?
[06:30] <hiexpo> matt-whi, after you blacklisted what ever you dd you you restart that service ?
[06:30] <terminhell> matt-whi: broadcom should just work, its been included into the kernel since 2.6
[06:30] <cfhowlett> Canadian1296   sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[06:30] <Ben64> Canadian1296: double click
[06:30] <Blue1> Canadian1296: sudo dpkg -i packagename
[06:30] <matt-whi> hiexpo, I didn't blacklist to my knowledge, I just ran a check. This is a fresh 11.10 install
[06:31] <Canadian1296> cfhowlett: Thanks :)
[06:31] <cfhowlett> Canadian1296   no problem
[06:31] <Ben64> Canadian1296: what are you installing? you couldn't get from repo?
[06:31] <hiexpo> thaught you said you blacklisted something
[06:31] <Toggaflana> HI ALL!!! HELP PLEASE!!!
[06:31] <matt-whi> terminhell, I don't know, broadcom has caused me a ton of stress...I had similar issues on a different install of 11.10 (different machine) ... but that one solved itself a lot easier
[06:32] <Ben64> !caps | Toggaflana
[06:32] <Toggaflana> Ben64, hi!
[06:32] <nathan28> Toggaflana: ONOZ!
[06:32] <Canadian1296> Ben64: Virtualbox
[06:32] <hiexpo> Toggaflana, ask
[06:32] <matt-whi> hiexpo, Something is blackisted, can't figure out how to get my wireless driver to work and I think that's the problem
[06:32] <Toggaflana> onoz?
[06:32] <nathan28> Toggaflana: what's the matter?
[06:32] <terminhell> matt-whi: is there a wifi button/switch? You may try enabling it via hardware
[06:32] <Toggaflana> oh ok
[06:33] <Ben64> Canadian1296: virtualbox is available in the repositories
[06:33] <matt-whi> terminhell, yes switch is activated
[06:33] <Toggaflana> CAn you fuck me by kosher please?
[06:33] <terminhell> matt-whi: try stopping and restarted dhcpd
[06:33] <hiexpo> kick
[06:33] <b__> Okay, so how do I enable playing over my speakers?
[06:33] <b__> via bluetoothe
[06:33] <Ben64> !language | Toggaflana
[06:33] <cfhowlett> now ignoring another idiot
[06:33] <Toggaflana> no
[06:33] <Toggaflana> plz
[06:33] <matt-whi> terminhell what's dhcpd?
[06:34] <terminhell> matt-whi: try sudo init.d stop dhcpd     then wait a few seconds, and init.d start dhcpd
[06:34] <nathan28> Toggaflana: you might have to take that to #leviticus
[06:34] <matt-whi> terminhell, running it now
[06:34] <Ben64> oh, it was the same troll as before, only through tor
[06:34] <terminhell> matt-whi:  then you may have to 'ifconfig wlan0 down' 'ifconfig wlan0 up' as sudo
[06:35] <nathan28> terminhell: is ifconfig still supported?
[06:35] <terminhell> cfhowlett: howdy
[06:35] <shadowh511> nathan28: yes.
[06:35] <terminhell> nathan28: as far as i know....
[06:35] <cfhowlett> terminhell   greetings
[06:36] <nathan28> ok not on ubuntu, didn't know if latest version had dropped it or not
[06:36] <terminhell> ifconfig/iwconfig is part of the upstream kernals nowadays as far as i know
[06:37] <Canadian1296> How do I test if my computer is capable of 64 bit
[06:37] <matt-whi> terminhell, cfhowlett, Ben64 and all: thanks to all of you guys for your help. I'm going to log out and take a break...I'm pretty sure this is a blacklist issue but will try it again in the morning. Really appreciate all of your help for the community. Thanks again
[06:38] <cfhowlett> matt-whi   good luck.  sounds like you're very close...
[06:38] <terminhell> indeed
[06:38] <terminhell> dhcpd is a daemon btw
[06:38] <terminhell> or, module actually. used for...dhcp
[06:39] <urfr332gO> Canadian1296, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> Canadian1296: when you try to install ubuntu it will say if its wrong architecture or not
[06:40] <Canadian1296> Okay, I have 32 bit desktop installed right now. Can I install 64 bit in virtualbox (if my computer is capable)?
[06:40] <meskarune> actually ifconfig doesn't work perfectly with newer kernels, so its recomended that people switch to ip2route
[06:40] <meskarune> no canadian1296
[06:40] <Canadian1296> So I need 32?
[06:41] <meskarune> you need to have 64 installed to run 64 bit software
[06:41] <nathan28> terminhell: iproute2
[06:41] <nathan28> ifconfig is largely unmaintained, anyway, n/m
[06:41] <terminhell> nathan28: ?
[06:41] <terminhell> ok
[06:41] <Canadian1296> meskarune: I have 32, and 32 virtualbox. Could I run a 64 bit os in the 32 bit virtualbox?
[06:41] <meskarune> NO
[06:41] <meskarune> you can only run 32 bit
[06:42] <Canadian1296> meskarune lotuspsychje urfr332gO: Thanks
[06:42] <terminhell> im sure there's ways of tricking a VM to running a 64bit on a 32 hardware, but i wouldnt try it.
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> Canadian1296: to speed up your 32-bit you could consider an ssd 6g drive
[06:43] <Canadian1296> lotuspsychje: I'm going to install 64 bit OS.
[06:44] <alnr> i trashed my /etc/apt/sources.list. how can I know safely what to put back. fwiw, /proc/version  says (gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) ) and /etc/debian_version says sid/wheezy
[06:44] <bazhang> alnr, #debian
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> Canadian1296: like everyone says here only possible 64bit Os to a 64BIT CPU+MOBO
[06:44] <nathan28> lotuspsychje: not true
[06:45] <alnr> bazhang: thanks. started there but then maybe though this was ubuntu due to that /proc/version
[06:45] <urfr332gO> alnr, works nicely http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[06:45] <nathan28> 32-bit will install to a 64-bit chip/board
[06:45] <Canadian1296> I'm going to see if it is 64 bit capable
[06:45] <nathan28> depends on the OEM's level of crankiness when they wrote the BIOS whether things work that way tho
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> nathan28: he wants the reverse...64 to 32bit
[06:45] <Ben64> Canadian1296: what model cpu?
[06:46] <urfr332gO> alnr, ubuntu though
[06:46] <alnr> urfr332gO: thanks, that looks great. jut now i'm not even sure, yes, what urf said
[06:46] <nathan28> Canadian1296: grep flags /proc/cpuinfo
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> nathan28: if i want to install 32bit ubuntu on my amd64 it refuses too..
[06:46] <nathan28> lotuspsychje: like i said, depends on the BIOS implementation
[06:47] <nathan28> ubuntu's installer may also prevent it, don't know
[06:47] <Canadian1296> Ben64: How do I find out?
[06:47] <alnr> why would /proc/version be referriing to ubuntu like that on a debian system i'm wondering
[06:47] <Canadian1296> Ben64: Like I just got it today from a family member.
[06:48] <urfr332gO> Canadian1296, is it a regular computer, loo it up on the web for info probably.
[06:49] <urfr332gO> look
[06:50] <urfr332gO> alnr, if your running debian I would s\ask there channel. :)
[06:50] <alnr> urfr332gO: dont think i'm going to get much sympathy anywhere :)
[06:51] <GhostWolf> hi all, i have an issue, recently my wireless mouse stops using the right and left mouse buttons i haven't done anything and my mouse is fully charged. can anyone help?
[06:51] <amdorra> ok, after i installed gvim it's not showing in the dash home, i can only open it from the terminal does anyone know why?
[06:52] <cfhowlett> GhostWolf   1: they do wear out 2. is this on blue tooth?  see #1
[06:52] <cfhowlett> GhostWolf   #3 batteries?
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> amdorra: some programs are just terminal based and not gui
[06:53] <amdorra> gvum stands for Guivim
[06:53] <amdorra> and i was using it before it worked just fine
[06:53] <Plagiat_xD> Who can give a free shell?
[06:54] <GhostWolf> cfhowlett, no its not bluetooth, and no its not a battery type wireless, its one that uses a charge stand, the mouse i have is a logitech mx laser 1000 its abit old mouse but haven't had it died on me at all but its just recently the mouse buttons stop working and i believe its only stopped on ubuntu, i can't right click to save an image or even left click the mouse button
[06:54] <cfhowlett> GhostWolf   if you're dual booting, you should function check it in the other OS.
[06:54] <chico> hi all... was wondering if anyone can help me out here..
[06:55] <cfhowlett> chico   ask away...
[06:55] <Plagiat_xD> Who can give a free shell?
[06:55] <sahil_> can we share thoughts about unity design here?
[06:55] <cfhowlett> Plagiat_xD   explain
[06:55] <nathan28> Plagiat_xD: like at the beach?
[06:55] <GhostWolf> cfhowlett, well i do dual boot, but each os is on a different hard drive, i believe i did check it when i was last on windows, but i don't remember, i can get back to you on that
[06:55] <cfhowlett> sahil_   better to do so in @ubuntu-offtopic
[06:55] <nathan28> or do you mean like Bash?
[06:55] <sahil_> thnx...
[06:56] <Canadian1296> It's 64 bit compatable. I'm installing ubuntu desktop 64 bit now :)
[06:56] <Plagiat_xD> » nathan28 » How do you know how on the beach?
[06:56] <chico> i had an secondary hdd icon on my xubuntu desktop. however, after i edited the /etc/fstab file its automatically mounted on boot up, but i don't see the drive on my desktop anymore.
[06:56] <cfhowlett> GhostWolf   just replaced by (cheap) HP bluetooth mouse.  Silently failed.  Replaced for $19.99 at Staples + batteries
[06:56] <Plagiat_xD> » cfhowlett » What's to explain?
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> chico: you could try pysdm
[06:56] <head_victim> alnr: Maybe try http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ but I would suggest not selecting any third party ones for now at least.
[06:56] <tomvolek> i know this is an ubunut room, but does anybody knows how i can do scp from a windows box inot an ubuntu ?
[06:56] <chico> i know where the drive is mounted to, but i'd like to have it on my desktop
[06:57] <meskarune> Plagiat_xD: get a free shell from http://sdf.org/
[06:57] <Canadian1296> tomvolek: Install the ssh server on the Ubuntu box
[06:57] <GhostWolf> cfhowlett, well as i said this mouse isn't a bluetooth mouse and i don't have a money to replace it, it works fine just recently like few days ago i noticed the mouse buttons wasn't working when i was in rhythmbox and couldn't right click ont he songs to remove them from the playlist
[06:58] <sahil_> hi...how to change the power  icon?
[06:58] <Plagiat_xD> » meskarune » What is the point where you press to get an account?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> chico: might be somewhere in gconf-editor enable volumes visible on desktop
[06:58] <cfhowlett> GhostWolf   understood.  perhaps a simple, gentle cleaning?  Other than that, I've no idea.
[06:58] <sahil_> i want to change the power icon on the panal...how to do that.m using elementary theme
[06:58] <zilly> What's the command to install the xorg import util?
[06:58] <alnr> head_victim: i'm pretty scared what will happen to this sys on apt-get update; not even knowing if its deb or ub. i dont know how it got this way. i'm hoping i can look at packages folder and sort it out
[06:58] <zilly> To import the display?
[06:59] <GhostWolf> cfhowlett, i have no clue either lol never experienced this problem. and i love this mouse cause it has extra buttons
[06:59] <chico> lotuspsychje, gconf-editor?
[06:59] <meskarune> Plagiat_xD all you have to do to get an account is ssh in and sign up. ><
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !info gconf-editor | chico
[07:00] <GhostWolf> anyways i will brb cfhowlett im gonna log off and restart under windows and see if it works there
[07:00] <cfhowlett> GhostWolf   good luck
[07:00] <GhostWolf> thanks cfhowlett
[07:01] <Plagiat_xD> » meskarune » You can write here?
[07:01] <alnr> head_victim: i think i musta converted it to ub from deb,at some point
[07:01] <chico> i dont know much about that
[07:01] <meskarune> Plagiat_xD: read the website, it will tell you everything you need know ><
[07:02] <raptor67782> hello. how to unzip and force overwrite please?
[07:02] <chico> lotuspsychje, you want me to install this app.. i haven';t a clue how to use this.
[07:02] <chico> i'll try.
[07:04]  * ThomasBoxley is away: never getting rid of this away message
[07:05] <head_victim> alnr: it's Ubuntu, my /etc/debian_version also has debian release names there.
[07:06] <chico> i still need help guys.. anyway of showing a hdd icon shortcut on my desktop?
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> chico: install gconf-editor
[07:08] <alnr> thank head_victim
[07:08] <chico> its installed
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> chico: ok now try gconf-editor from terminal and look in apps/nautilus/
[07:09] <chico> okay
[07:09] <dRounse> whats the difference between ethernet and patch cable ethernet?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> chico: is there desktop too?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> chico: apps/nautilus/desktop
[07:10] <chico> i dont see nautilus
[07:11] <chico> i do have desktop
[07:11] <terminhell> "file manager"
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> chico:try desktop: check volumes visible
[07:11] <GhostWolf> hey cfhowlett well it seems the restart worked, it works in windows and now i checked and works again
[07:11] <cfhowlett> GhostWolf   works again in ubuntu?
[07:12] <GhostWolf> cfhowlett, yep. maybe something just needed to be rebooted
[07:12] <chico> don't have it lotuspsychje
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> chico: strange, maybe its changed in ocelot
[07:13] <chico> should i install nautilus?
[07:13] <dRounse> ! | patch cable
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> chico: no nautilus is already default
[07:13] <chico> i have xubuntu
[07:13] <nathan28> chico: you have thunar
[07:13] <chico> yep
[07:13] <nathan28> you can install nautilus w/ apt or synaptic pkg mgr
[07:14] <nathan28> may pull in all of GNOME tho
[07:14] <terminhell> why not thunar?
[07:15] <meskarune> I like ranger. its an awesome file manager
[07:17] <chico> lotuspsychje, anything? what should i do?
[07:18] <terminhell> chico: what DM are you using?
[07:19] <chico> terminhell, ? D
[07:19] <chico> DM?
[07:19] <terminhell> gnome, kde, etc
[07:19] <kamelot314> desktop manager
[07:19] <cfhowlett> terminhell   he's got xubuntu so xfce...
[07:19] <chico> xfce xubuntu
[07:20] <chico> i'd like to have my hdd icon back, just lost it after i edited the fstab. i have the current Filesystem icon still there.. i'd like to have my secondary hdd there aswell
[07:20] <elise001> The screen of my Compaq notebook goes strange. I have to unplug the computer, take out the battery, and reboot. Ctrl alt delete does not work. That is why I unplug and take out battery.
[07:20] <terminhell> chico:  http://wiki.xfce.org/faq
[07:21] <cfhowlett> elise001   "goes strange" means what?
[07:21] <chico> ?
[07:22] <elise001> Something is tiled across the screen. Hard for me to explain.
[07:22] <terminhell> chico: under the Desktop Manager section is a part about icons.
[07:22] <cfhowlett> elise001   screenshot and paste...
[07:22] <NAiL> I've got an annoying raid issue. I've got a raid5 (with BOOT_DEGRADED) set that refuses to mount on boot. I end up in initramfs, where I do "madm --stop /dev/md0 && mdadm --assemble --scan". That works. How can I fix so that ubuntu actually boots without manual intervention?
[07:23] <terminhell> NAiL: add it to your kernel from grub maybe?
[07:23] <terminhell> or in your xinit
[07:23] <NAiL> add what in grub?
[07:24] <axisys> how do I enable ethernet over usb?
[07:24] <NAiL> This is not a rootfs btw, it's a storage fs that isn't needed for boot.
[07:24] <terminhell> NAiL: OH, add those commands to "startup"
[07:25] <elise001> Take a screenshot with my cel phone?
[07:25] <terminhell> elise001: however you can show us
[07:25] <cfhowlett> elise001   Accessories should have a "screenshot" program but cell phone if you must
[07:26] <Ben64> it might not be something screenshottable
[07:26] <Canadian1296> When you encrypt your home folder it suggests you write down a decryption passphrase. I'm just wondering, but if I ever forget my user password, how could I decrypt my home folder with it?
[07:26] <NAiL> terminhell: Shouldn't the initramfs be able to assemble the raid on its own? ...
[07:26] <cfhowlett> Canadian1296   with GREAT difficulty and much effort --- maybe
[07:26] <cfhowlett> elise001    can you boot and login?
[07:27] <Canadian1296> So then what's the point of that passphrase if you cant use it to decrypt the home folder?
[07:27] <terminhell> encryption passwords are different
[07:27] <terminhell> NAiL: perhaps. but it sounds like something has gone wrong
[07:29] <cfhowlett> well, gotta go - Starbucks is closing.  IN case anyone is interested, the next  UbuntuStudio meeting will be on IRC @ 1700 London time...
[07:29] <terminhell> NAiL: see if this helps https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/RAID
[07:31] <ebidewi> #jakarta
[07:38] <g112wdh> which package manager are you using ? aptitude or apt-get ?
[07:38] <chachin> anyone who could be cool and get openssl on my ubuntu vps :s
[07:38] <terminhell> they both use dpkg
[07:39]  * uKi` brb mandi
[07:40] <terminhell> chachin: do you have physical access to the vpn or...?
[07:41] <chachin> yeah full root
[07:41] <chachin> OH its libssl for znc
[07:41] <terminhell> are you not able to run apt-get install openssl?
[07:42] <chachin> woo
[07:42] <chachin>  igot it
[07:42] <terminhell> ;)
[07:42] <chachin> it was: apt-get instal libssl-dev
[07:42] <terminhell> cool beans
[07:42] <chico> this is messed up
[07:42] <chico> didn't know it would be so hard to place a shortcut on the desktop
[07:43] <terminhell> what is
[07:43] <Ludlow> anyone using xchat for windows?
[07:43] <bazhang> Ludlow, #xchat
[07:43] <Ludlow> thanks
[07:44] <g112wdh> I don't know why I cannot connect freenode using xchat for windows
[07:44] <g112wdh> so I use erc for emacs
[07:44] <terminhell> i like irssi
[07:44] <bazhang> g112wdh, try #freenode or ##windows
[07:45] <g112wdh> thank you
[07:46] <dRounse> if i use an ethernet wallplate will i lose power or is it the same as plugging it directly into the device
[07:46] <terminhell> dRounse: uh...what?
[07:48] <Canadian1296> Night everyone
[07:49] <dRounse> if i decide to put an htpc on the other side of the room, connected to my server thru my switch with gbit, if i use a wallplate which would consist of three ethernet cables in total slow down my conection more than if i used one etheert cable
[07:49] <terminhell> no idea
[07:50] <dRounse> oh ok
[07:50] <terminhell> i doubt it
[07:50] <terminhell> if your using true gigabit connections
[07:50] <terminhell> unless your going  to be running huge bandwidth heavy things
[07:51] <dRounse> well im thinking of gettin cat6 and its only for movies and media
[07:52] <terminhell> Oh, hmm, it shouldnt be much of an issue
[07:52] <terminhell> unless your cables are running close too or more than 100feet
[07:53] <dRounse> ok im thinking ill just go with one long cable, cat6 is getting cheap, and no itll be 25-50ft of cable
[07:53] <Ben64> can use cat5
[07:53] <dRounse> Ben64 i can, i kinda wanna try cat6 and be adventurous
[07:54] <eggzeck> dRounse: Keep in mind cat6 doesn't determine everything.
[07:54] <terminhell> and use ipv6 :p
[07:55] <dRounse> eggzeck: i know but everything im using supports gbit so why not try cat6
[07:55] <Ben64> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10208&cs_id=1020812&p_id=143&seq=1&format=2
[07:55] <Ben64> $6.11 for 50'
[07:55] <dRounse> terminhell, its all on my lan
[07:55] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: Did you figure it out?
[07:55] <f10ppiek0k> bobo37773: no i am trying something crazy now
[07:55] <dRounse> Ben64 thats cheap
[07:55] <eggzeck> dRounse: No reason not to try cat6 :-)
[07:55] <Ben64> cat6 is a waste of money
[07:55] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: Bummer. Good luck
[07:56] <dRounse> but 50 ft for 6 bucks isnt bad
[07:56] <NAiL> Ok, I somehow managed to fix my raid5-issue. Now to my second problem. Ubuntu refuses to boot when I do a reboot. I have to power off and on the machine to boot. I've got the same issue on two completely different (hardware-wise) PCs
[07:56] <Ben64> thats where i get all my cable
[07:56] <terminhell> NAiL: is the raid networked?
[07:56] <eggzeck> dRounse: But as Ben64 says they're more expensive and you WON'T notice much of a difference at all (not a significant one at least)
[07:56] <NAiL> terminhell: no.
[07:56] <dRounse> Ben64 is it good cable from there?
[07:56] <Ben64> 125MB/s vs 125MB/s
[07:57] <Ben64> dRounse: excellent
[07:57] <dRounse> and i have another question
[07:57] <ankur> hi there?? can any one help me in instllaing the alien package
[07:57] <eggzeck> dRounse: However I would use cat 5e instead of cat5 but cat5 is fine.
[07:57] <ankur> ?
[07:57] <bobo37773> ankur: for installing fedora packages?
[07:57] <terminhell> ankur: no, i stay away from foreign life forms
[07:57] <ankur> no
[07:57] <ankur> on ubunut
[07:57] <bobo37773> ankur: Isnt it in the repos?
[07:58] <ankur> ubuntu 9.10 , i want to install the aliean package
[07:58] <ankur> no
[07:58] <ankur> its not there
[07:58] <dRounse> if i decide to set up a raid0 would buying a dedicated NAS to auto back up be worth it in my homeserver
[07:58] <bobo37773> ankur: the one for installing / converting rpms right?
[07:58] <eggzeck> dRounse: geeze, what kind of operation are you running in your home? lol
[07:58] <auronandace> !9.10 | ankur
[07:58] <ankur> yer bobo, right
[07:58] <DrDnar> dRounse: Depends on how valuable your data are.
[07:59] <bobo37773> oh ok
[08:00] <DrDnar> Is the cost of the NAS (hopefully RAIDed?) and the time you'll spend setting it up worth less than replacing your data?
[08:00] <dRounse> eggzeck DrDnar, well just music and movies and docs but i setup a GoFlex home NAS for my family and say that some people use it to back up raid configs i just didnt know if it was worth it to do that
[08:00] <ankur> yes ubottu, u r right but i dnt have the latest version now
[08:00] <sepomex> hey suppa!
[08:00] <dRounse> the NAS wont be raided, my server will be
[08:00] <NAiL> bugger... the raid problem is back. It tries to assemble the raid with only two devices... wtf?
[08:00] <dRounse> the NAS will auto backup the RAID
[08:00] <sepomex> I am feeling hard
[08:00] <sepomex> what about you suppa_spic
[08:00] <Suppa_Spic> heyo sepomex <3
[08:01] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, ubuntu support issue?
[08:01] <Suppa_Spic> bazhang: ummmmh yeah
[08:02] <bobo37773> ankur: Are you sure its not in the repos?
[08:02] <Suppa_Spic> I have a problem
[08:02] <Suppa_Spic> how do I play call of duty in ubuntu?
[08:02] <dRounse> you dont
[08:02] <bobo37773> ankur: do you have universe and all that enabled?
[08:02] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: what you mean?
[08:02] <DrDnar> dRounse: If your server is already RAIDed (except for RAID 0), it might be overkill. The only advantage of having a second backup through NAS is that you could recover data if you corrupted the RAID.
[08:02] <bobo37773> Suppa_Spic: probably through wine if at all possible. look into wine
[08:03] <kripz> how do i get a id rather than /dev/sd* of a whole empty disk?
[08:03] <Suppa_Spic> I want to play Call of Duty in Ubuntu, I thought it was a very advanced operating system
[08:03] <Suppa_Spic> one of my friends recommedned it to me
[08:03] <dRounse> bobo37773 i dont think the newer ones are wine supported
[08:03] <Suppa_Spic> hello
[08:03] <ankur> hmm bebo i m new to it, and i m not sure about the universe and all enabled
[08:03] <bobo37773> dRounse: oh I see
[08:03] <Suppa_Spic> help
[08:03] <ankur> can u help me to figure it out
[08:04] <dRounse> DrDnar its not raided i was going to set it up when i get enough mioney to redo it
[08:04] <bobo37773> ankur: go to synaptic I think and look at software sources
[08:04] <ankur> sry Bobo*
[08:04] <Suppa_Spic> hello
[08:04] <Suppa_Spic> anyone
[08:04] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic which call of duty?
[08:04] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: the last one, MW3
[08:04] <DrDnar> Ah, well if the server isn't RAID'd, having a backup is always a good idea.
[08:04] <madsj> hi; when is Thunderbird 10.x going into Ubuntu 11.04?
[08:04] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic that def wont play on ubuntu
[08:04] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: but why not!
[08:05] <quazimod1> has anyone else here had problems with designing QML with QtCreator?
[08:05] <Suppa_Spic> :<
[08:05] <bobo37773> Suppa_Spic: why would you think a windows game should work in gnu linux anyway?
[08:05] <ankur> Bobo, do u mean the software center
[08:05] <ankur> ?
[08:05] <madsj> I haven't touched the aptitude source-file
[08:05] <quazimod1> its very buggy, unresponsive etc
[08:05] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic because you need MW3 support from wine and it isnt supported
[08:05] <bobo37773> ankur: yeah
[08:05] <Suppa_Spic> bobo37773: Because I thought Ubuntu was advanced enough to play my gaems
[08:05] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: Talk to the WINE folks.
[08:05] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: Was there anything else?
[08:05] <ankur> no it's not there
[08:05] <ankur> i tried mnany times
[08:05] <dRounse> http://appdb.winehq.org/
[08:05] <quazimod1> Suppa_Spic: game support isnt ubuntu or any other distro, just wine or crossover
[08:05] <ankur> even in the ubuntu CD its not there
[08:06] <bobo37773> Suppa_Spic: Ubuntu is actually not windows.
[08:06] <b__> How do I modify the method of "monitoring" a specific audio in device?
[08:06] <Suppa_Spic> Corey: where I can contact the wine folks
[08:06] <bobo37773> Suppa_Spic: it is a different operating system
[08:06] <quazimod1> if you don't mind paying you can use crossover
[08:06] <Suppa_Spic> bobo37773: yes, but people say 'oh you should use Ubuntu, is better than Windows'
[08:06] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic ubuntu is more advanced than windows, but windows doesnt like ubuntu
[08:06] <eggzeck> Suppa_Spic: Ummm not being able to play a game you like does not mean Ubuntu (or any other OS) is not advanced. Just FYI
[08:06] <Suppa_Spic> so I thought I could do anything
[08:06] <bobo37773> Suppa_Spic: really? who said that?
[08:06] <vuxor> lol
[08:06] <quazimod1> Suppa_Spic: lol you funny
[08:06] <Suppa_Spic> bobo37773: some of my friends
[08:07] <quazimod1> Suppa_Spic: stick to windows bud
[08:07] <quazimod1> you'll be happier
[08:07] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic i hope you didnt wipe your computer and install ubuntu
[08:07] <ankur> bobo37773: ?
[08:07]  * quazimod1 wonders how he knows about irc, i smell really clever trollage
[08:07] <Suppa_Spic> quazimod1: but I want to play games too, and avoid viruses
[08:07] <quazimod1> anyway
[08:07] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: ummmmmh
[08:07] <bobo37773> ankur: you cant find software sources?
[08:07] <quazimod1> get an antivirus
[08:07] <eggzeck> I just installed Ubuntu, can I fly now?
[08:07] <Suppa_Spic> I just formatted
[08:08] <quazimod1> *bam* you just made a mistake
[08:08] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic well your SOL then
[08:08] <sahil_> how to upgrade to precise using apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:08] <Suppa_Spic> SOL?
[08:08] <Suppa_Spic> what
[08:08] <dRounse> S*** outta luck
[08:08] <Suppa_Spic> my SOL?
[08:08] <Suppa_Spic> I don't have any SOL
[08:08] <terminhell> *facepalm*
[08:08] <eggzeck> He means SQL
[08:08] <Suppa_Spic> he said my SOL
[08:08] <eggzeck> :P
[08:08] <sahil_> hi...how to upgrade to precise using apt-get dist-upgrade from oneric?
[08:08] <dRounse> i dont mean SQL thats gonna confuse him more
[08:08] <ankur> bobo37773: \no i found it, but the alien package is not there
[08:09] <eggzeck> lol
[08:09] <Suppa_Spic> What?
[08:09] <Suppa_Spic> guys this is confusing me even more
[08:09] <Suppa_Spic> I thought Ubuntu was easier, as my friend told me
[08:09] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, lets move on
[08:09] <Suppa_Spic> he said 'Ubuntu is easy'
[08:09] <bobo37773> Suppa_Spic: pick between the game you want and the operating system. simple. weigh out the differences.
[08:09] <urfr332gO> sahil_, you can upgrade from the update manager.
[08:09] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic ok heres what to do, go get windows and reinstall it, you cant really play any new games on ubuntu
[08:09] <quazimod1> Suppa_Spic: it is for like 99% of things that arent games
[08:09] <quazimod1> ubuntu and games sucks
[08:09] <Ben64> wine works for some games
[08:09] <kurrata> it is easy, sometimes so easy that it can be barly usuable ;D
[08:09] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, #winehq for wine games, check the appdb
[08:09] <quazimod1> Ben64: puleeeese
[08:09] <terminhell> Dual boot both. Use windows to play your games, use ubuntu for being productive
[08:10] <dfantasyd> ciao
[08:10] <Suppa_Spic> :<
[08:10] <dfantasyd> !list
[08:10] <Ben64> quazimod1: pulee yourself? i play games on wine all the time
[08:10] <bazhang> !appdb | Suppa_Spic
[08:10] <quazimod1> Ben64: you want him to run wine? he cant extract the meaning from SOL :/
[08:10] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, join that channel after checking the appdb.
[08:10] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: But I want to use Ubuntu and learn, why do you say that I should get windows again
[08:10] <dRounse> WINE IS NOT an EMULATOR
[08:10] <ankur> when i run "sudo apt-get install alien"
[08:10] <ankur> sudo apt-get install alien
[08:10] <Ben64> quazimod1: not everyone here knows american slang
[08:10] <ankur> this is what the message shows
[08:10] <quazimod1> Ben64: k
[08:11] <bazhang> lets move on please
[08:11] <kurrata> i have no idea what sol isto, unless you mean sun?
[08:11] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic because unless you wanna give up games its gonna be har, and if you have new hardware you might also run into trouble
[08:11] <ankur> E: Couldnot find package alien
[08:11] <media> I've installed xbmc, and it's idling at 100% CPU. has anybody here had this problem?
[08:11] <terminhell> Suppa_Spic: some games just wont work in linux.
[08:11] <sahil_> _urfr332go ...it gives me update...i want to upgrade to precise pangolin
[08:11] <urfr332gO> !pastebin | ankur
[08:11] <bazhang> media, contact the 3rd party repo maintainers
[08:11] <dRounse> terminhell 99.9999999999999% of games dont work
[08:11] <Suppa_Spic> terminhell: but why.......
[08:11] <Suppa_Spic> Why no games in Ubuntu! that's frustrating
[08:11] <ankur> thanks ubotto
[08:12] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, this is not the place to ask.
[08:12] <sahil_> apt-get dist-upgrade from oneric to precise?
[08:12] <vuxor> there are games in Ubuntu
[08:12] <urfr332gO> ankur, sorry I thought you were ready to post a bunch of info. :(
[08:12] <ankur> but im still banging with the same problem
[08:12] <bazhang> sahil_, you dont upgrade with dist-upgrade, not between versions
[08:12] <Suppa_Spic> bazhang: I shouldn't ask questions about Ubuntu here?
[08:12] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic there are games for ubuntu, just not new games fresh off the press
[08:12] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: If gaming is your primary use case, this probably isn't the OS for you.
[08:12] <bobo37773> ankur: do you not know what software sources is?
[08:12] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, not windows games, no
[08:12] <terminhell> Suppa_Spic:  because the game company's and windows specific coding....activex...
[08:12] <ankur> np urfr
[08:12] <bobo37773> ankur: like universe source etc..
[08:12] <Suppa_Spic> ummmh
[08:12] <ankur> not exactly
[08:12] <ankur> ya little bit
[08:13] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, please stop repeating.
[08:13] <dRounse> you can virtualize windows
[08:13] <sahil_> umm...ubuntu doesnt supports rolling disto or wat?
[08:13] <bazhang> sahil_, no
[08:13] <Suppa_Spic> bazhang: repeting what!?!
[08:13] <ankur> i was just trying to run wifi on ubuntu
[08:13] <kurrata> blame windows for not sharing their api and game companies for using windows only code
[08:13] <bazhang> sahil_, #ubuntu+1 for precise
[08:13] <Suppa_Spic> guys, I'm serious
[08:13] <quazimod1> so, no one knows why QTCREATOR is BUGGY on QML files in 11.10 ?
[08:13] <bobo37773> ankur: like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:13] <ankur> and thats how i stuck on installing alien
[08:14] <bobo37773> ankur: enable universe and do a sudo apt-get update and see if it is there
[08:14] <Suppa_Spic> what happened
[08:14] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic you will not be able to play MW3 on ubuntu anytime soon
[08:14] <terminhell> or use aptosid
[08:14] <Suppa_Spic> server went down?
[08:14] <media> OK, how about this one:  What's a decent media-center application a la xbmc, available in the ubuntu repos?
[08:14] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: Enough of that line of questioning, please.
[08:14] <Ben64> ankur: try explaining your actual problem, you probably don't need alien for what you want to do
[08:14] <bazhang> ankur, what package do you need
[08:14] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: ok I got it, nvm
[08:14] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic i recommend using an xbox instead thats what i do
[08:15] <ankur> Bobo37773 i read that page while googling
[08:15] <dRounse> media you could use boxee
[08:15] <terminhell> Suppa_Spic: its mostly because of software architecture differences and philosophies that software like games will render them unusable
[08:15] <ankur> ?
[08:15] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: I spent 2 grands in my computer to play
[08:15] <Suppa_Spic> nvm
[08:15] <Suppa_Spic> let's move on
[08:15] <terminhell> Suppa_Spic: its like asking why doesnt mac play windows only games....
[08:15] <bobo37773> ankur: you see the part that talks about software sources
[08:15] <bazhang> ankur, why would you need alien, for what package
[08:15] <bobo37773> good question
[08:15] <kurrata> i want to know why windows doest play linuxgames ;(
[08:16] <terminhell> -,-
[08:16] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[08:16] <bobo37773> kurrata: hahahahaha
[08:16] <kurrata> i spent 2k on my machine, ;(
[08:16] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic im not trying to drag this on but if you have brand new graphics card and sound card you are going to have problems
[08:16] <bazhang> kurrata, you too
[08:16] <Suppa_Spic> Corey: I stopped
[08:16] <Suppa_Spic> woops
[08:16] <Suppa_Spic> sorry
[08:16] <Suppa_Spic> I was reading another line
[08:16] <Suppa_Spic> bazhang: ok
[08:17] <ankur> then i googled
[08:17] <ankur> bazhang, i was unstalling the basic things like adobe, FF, vlc and when they didnt get installed using apt-get
[08:17] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: problems with what?
[08:17] <ankur> and found that it requires
[08:17] <ankur> alien
[08:17] <FloodBot1> ankur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:17] <ankur> is there any other way to to that
[08:17] <Ben64> ankur: what is your goal though?
[08:17] <bazhang> ankur, you do NOT need alien for those
[08:17] <llutz_> ankur: none of those things need alien
[08:17] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic drivers, especially if they are new because the drivers might not be available
[08:17] <ankur> to run wi-fi
[08:17] <Suppa_Spic> oh ok
[08:17] <bazhang> ankur, none of those
[08:17] <ankur> ok FloofBot will try
[08:18] <bobo37773> ankur: your talking to a bot.
[08:18] <Suppa_Spic> lol
[08:18] <bazhang> ankur, always use the software centre to install packages.
[08:18] <bobo37773> ankur: you need to enable the correct repositories and update
[08:18] <ankur> no, the main motive is to run wi- fi, rest of the things van be delayed
[08:18] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic like the disk that comes with devices contains the drivers but since they arent compatable with linux, you might not be able to use them properly or you will need to use the open cource drivers
[08:19] <bobo37773> ankur: so your wifi card isn't working?
[08:19] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: oh ok, I don't know but after I installed Ubento everything worked fine
[08:19] <ankur> it detects the card realteck corp
[08:19] <bobo37773> ankur: but it doesn't work?
[08:19] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic have you played a game yet? or tried to watch a movie ?
[08:19] <vuxor> is there any gnome program like Kover on KDE?
[08:20] <bazhang> vuxor, what does it do
[08:20] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: yes, in youtube and facebook games
[08:20] <bobo37773> vuxor: what does it do
[08:20] <ankur> yes, it does not show the name of wifi at the top
[08:20] <bobo37773> jinx
[08:20] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic well those arent really graphic heavy
[08:20] <dRounse> but you mighnot have problems
[08:20] <ankur> i have to use Lan , then it works fine
[08:20] <dRounse> but i gotta go
[08:20] <vuxor> it is CD cover printer
[08:20] <bobo37773> ankur: when is the last time you updated your system?
[08:21] <dRounse> vuxor do you want it on KDE or gnome?
[08:21] <ankur> i havn't
[08:21] <Ben64> vuxor: you can use kde applications in gnome
[08:21] <bobo37773> ankur: Is this a new install?
[08:21] <ankur> so i guess this is the main solution
[08:21] <terminhell> ankur:  if you go into your network settings, under wifi, is it listed there? You may have to enable it for "all users"
[08:21] <Suppa_Spic> can somebody explain why I was like kicked out of the channel moments ago?
[08:21] <eggzeck> ankur: I have found that some times I've had that issue. All I did was enter information manually and rebooted then (for some odd reason) it started connection and working properly (reading/seeing other WiFi networks)
[08:21] <ankur> yes, about a week ago
[08:21] <Suppa_Spic> I am new to this IRC thing
[08:21] <ankur> no terminhell its not listed there
[08:21] <vuxor> dRounse: on gnome
[08:22] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, join #ubuntu-ops
[08:22] <bobo37773> ankur: why not use 10.04 or something a little more recent?
[08:22] <Suppa_Spic> bazhang: what is that?
[08:22] <dRounse> vuxor just use Kover, itll work fine
[08:22] <ankur> eggzeck, even i tried that but it didnt worked
[08:22] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, to discuss your removal from this channel
[08:22] <ankur> how can i update my system
[08:22] <Ben64> ankur: what version of ubuntu?
[08:22] <vuxor> Ben64: i use Kover for now, but I was wandering if there is any gnome solution
[08:22] <terminhell> ankur:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:23] <terminhell> ...or just use the update manager
[08:23] <ankur> Ben64
[08:23] <ankur> i am having 9.10 verison
[08:23] <Ben64> ankur: you need to upgrade
[08:24] <dRounse> vuxor in the software center type in kover maybe other ones will pop up
[08:24] <Ben64> 9.10 stopped being supported in April 2011, i believe
[08:24] <bobo37773> ankur: open a terminal and type this exactly -->      sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade             <-- just like terminhell said
[08:24] <ankur> yes, i did that
[08:24] <Suppa_Spic> what's the best editor for Ubuntu
[08:24] <Suppa_Spic> ?
[08:24] <Suppa_Spic> like notepad
[08:24] <eggzeck> vi
[08:24] <bobo37773> ankur: should be updating right?
[08:24] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic gedit
[08:24] <dRounse> dont use vi
[08:24] <ankur> few errors are displayed as "404 not found", is it ok with that
[08:24] <bobo37773> Suppa_Spic: vim
[08:25] <Suppa_Spic> ummmh
[08:25] <dRounse> eggzeck youre trying to mess him up lol
[08:25] <eggzeck> dRounse: And why not use vi?
[08:25] <Ben64> ankur: no, you need to upgrade ubuntu versions
[08:25] <eggzeck> lol
[08:25] <Suppa_Spic> which one is the best of those 3?
[08:25] <dRounse> eggzeck hes brandnew and wants something like notepad
[08:25] <vuxor> dRounse: just Kover and Kover designer, or smnthng
[08:25] <dRounse> vuxor yea
[08:25] <ankur> you mean download the 11.10 and then again isntall it
[08:25] <dRounse> Kover
[08:25] <terminhell> ankur: is your /home in a seperate partition?
[08:26] <Ben64> ankur: that would be the cleanest way
[08:26] <bobo37773> dRounse: I wish someone would have told me to use vim in the beginning. In my opinoin it is the best. Of course that is subjective
[08:26] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic gedit is your best bet and its already installed
[08:26] <ankur> terminhell: yes
[08:26] <eggzeck> bobo37773: I'm with you, don't worry ;-)
[08:26] <terminhell> bobo37773: i prefer nano.
[08:26] <dRounse> bobo37773 i like it too but not for a beginner
[08:26] <ankur> Ben: okk iwill do that
[08:26] <bobo37773> terminhell: really? well to each their own
[08:26] <dRounse> bobo37773 who wants notepad
[08:26] <CharminTheMoose> My /etc/issue changes aren't being read, what did I goof up?
[08:26] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: oh okay, thanks
[08:26] <ankur> can i install the new version above the current verison
[08:27] <terminhell> ankur: then just install the newest ubuntu, and chose your current /home as your "new" home
[08:27] <bobo37773> dRounse: oh didn't know he said notepad nevermind
[08:27] <vuxor> u mean on Gvim?
[08:27] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic no problem
[08:27] <terminhell> ankur: but you'll have to do the manual install, not the guided
[08:27] <eggzeck> dRounse: Well actually nano would be easier to use than vi (vim) would be
[08:27] <ankur> hmm, okay i can do that.
[08:27] <ankur> thank u guys
[08:27] <dRounse> bobo37773 he install ubuntu thinking he could play the brand new call of duty lets just set him up with the easy stuff
[08:28] <dRounse> actually Suppa_Spic you should use Linux Mint instead of Ubuntu
[08:28] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: Why?
[08:28] <hmw> Is it just me, or did the recent Firefox update bring a lot of bugs? The browser crashed a lot of times while I was developing a JavaScript program, Google suddenly shows a totally empty page except for the search bar, and other minor annoyances.
[08:28] <terminhell> it ships with more codecs out of the box
[08:28] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic more user friendly, its based on ubuntu
[08:28] <terminhell> the non free ones like flash/java
[08:28] <eggzeck> hmw: Not sure, I use chromium
[08:28] <Ben64> dRounse: this is a ubuntu channel, not mint
[08:28] <bobo37773> dRounse: all in all though gedit is a pretty good editor. probably my favorite gui editor. I have not tried sublime yet though. yeah I am half convinced that this person is just messing with us anyways
[08:29] <furien> i hate ubuntu
[08:29] <terminhell> bobo37773:  try leafpad too, pretty quick in a gui
[08:29] <eggzeck> Furai: Why?
[08:29] <dRounse> Ben64 i know im helping someone out that is new, plus mint was a fork of ubuntu
[08:29] <eggzeck> oops wrong name tabbed, he quit.
[08:29] <eggzeck> sorry Furai
[08:29] <yodaboy22> Noob question: can you customize colors in Unity desktop?
[08:29] <yodaboy22> i have ubuntu 11.10
[08:29] <jawshr> Hey folks, just did a new install of 11.10 on my netbook. During install all the netbook hardware worked fine, but now when I boot into it wifi, touchpad and sound no worky. Any suggestions??
[08:30] <terminhell> what kind of colors?
[08:30] <bobo37773> terminhell: I have tried it. Too minimalistic for me. My next one to try is sublime if I try a new one.
[08:30] <dRounse> bobo37773 i like it too lol
[08:30] <Suppa_Spic> OK im gonna try Mint
[08:30] <Suppa_Spic> thanks
[08:30] <Axsuul> when I put a public key in authorized_keys, do I need to have the ssh-rsa part?
[08:30] <yodaboy22> terminhell: I want the customization that GNOME debian offers
[08:30] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: Good luck, have fun.
[08:30] <yodaboy22> like, change the colors of the windows
[08:30] <yodaboy22> and the text
[08:30] <yodaboy22> and all that jazz
[08:30] <eggzeck> Oh no, poor kid doesn't know what to do
[08:30] <aBound> yodaboy22, Debian uses an older version of Gnome 2 which eventually will stop development.
[08:30] <terminhell> yodaboy22: install gnome-shell and gnome-tweak-tool
[08:30] <Corey> eggzeck: Keep it friendly, plz. :-)
[08:31] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic in the terminal type in "sudo apt-get install unetbootin -y"
[08:31] <yodaboy22> terminhell: i'll try that otu
[08:31] <bazhang> dRounse, dont recommend MINT here. this is Ubuntu support thanks
[08:31] <eggzeck> Corey: Uhhh, huh? How am I not being friendly?
[08:31] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: what's that for
[08:31] <terminhell> yodaboy22: gnome-shell is a bit different than Unity though. be warned
[08:31] <Corey> eggzeck: Sorry, interpreted that as snarky sarcasm. :-)
[08:31] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic to install mint
[08:31] <Suppa_Spic> alright~
[08:31] <yodaboy22> terminhell: I'll do my research on it
[08:31] <bazhang> dRounse, please dont
[08:31] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: Although #mint is where support for that goes.
[08:31] <dRounse> really guys? im helping someone out
[08:32] <eggzeck> Corey: No worries :-) (I'm not much for sarcasm but I do understand how you misinterpreted that)
[08:32] <Corey> Or not.  Apparently there's not a #mint here.
[08:32] <Suppa_Spic> Corey: oh ok
[08:32] <bobo37773> yodaboy22: I think the newest ubuntu is introducing those features (to change colors at least). thats what I heard
[08:32] <terminhell> yodaboy22: OR if you really are after serious customization, check out archlinux ;)
[08:32] <Suppa_Spic> Corey: What?
[08:32] <Suppa_Spic> no mint?
[08:32] <bazhang> dRounse, its not a supported derivative, so yes.
[08:32] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: Not sure where their support forum is.
[08:32] <bobo37773> terminhell: say what?
[08:32] <Corey> Ah,  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[08:32] <dRounse> bazhang hes brand newhe doesnt know how to use the irc let me explain so he can be on his way
[08:33] <jawshr> Guys could anyone please help with my netbook issue please?
[08:33] <terminhell> bobo37773: overkill i know, but i cant help but shamelessly plug my distro from time to time
[08:33] <bazhang> !mintsupport | dRounse Suppa_Spic
[08:33] <dRounse> bazhang i know its not supported
[08:33] <bobo37773> terminhell: I'm just kidding. I will only ever run arch again probably
[08:33] <bazhang> dRounse, then please dont recommend it here, thanks.
[08:33] <jawshr> Everything worked during install (wifi etc) but no hardware is found
[08:34] <dRounse> bazhang he cant even run ubuntu where else am i supposed to recommend
[08:34] <bobo37773> terminhell: we better be quiet though or we will get in trouble. too offtopic
[08:35] <dRounse> bobo37773 youll get yelled at for talking about other distros like me
[08:35] <terminhell> bobo37773: indeed
[08:35] <bobo37773> dRounse: yep. terminhell uhhh huh
[08:36] <dRounse> where is the linux family? obvi ubuntu is racist against other flavors
[08:36] <terminhell> to jawshr's problem with wifi
[08:36] <llutz_> dRounse: ##linux for that
[08:36] <eggzeck> dRounse: That's not racism lol
[08:36] <jawshr> thanks
[08:36] <bobo37773> dRounse: just dont go to #linux cause they hate all distro lovers there
[08:36] <dRounse> eggzeck sure it is :)
[08:36] <jawshr> I think my drivers may be all blacklisted?
[08:37] <terminhell> the live cd ships with more device drivers than the installer gives
[08:37] <eggzeck> dRounse: Oh, I didn't realize Ubuntu was a race (or any other distro) :-)
[08:37] <dRounse> bobo37773 i know lol we should start our own channel
[08:37] <dRounse> eggzeck it is lol see you learn something new everyday
[08:37] <gordon1234> jawshr, can I guess you are using a Dell Broadcomm BCM43xx wifi card? :-)
[08:38] <jawshr> Its onboard an HP mini 110 netbook
[08:38] <eggzeck> I was wondering how long it'll take for someone to notice his nick
[08:38] <terminhell> im using a BCM43xx card....but then again im running kernel 3.2.6....
[08:38] <gordon1234> jawshr, shounds like a big yes then :-)
[08:38] <dRounse> eggzeck i think ubuntu is the crazy white racist southerners
[08:38] <jawshr> right
[08:38] <pangolin> dRounse: excuse me?
[08:39] <terminhell> so broadcom just 'works'
[08:39] <jawshr> can I load them off the install disk or need to connect with ethernet
[08:39] <dRounse> pangolin i mean southerners from america not south africa
[08:39] <terminhell> jawshr: upgrade your system after installing
[08:39] <dRounse> pangolin you missed me getting yelled t for talking about mint
[08:39] <pangolin> dRounse: I know what you meant. I don't understand how you got that impression
[08:39] <pangolin> dRounse: Mint is off topic for #ubuntu.
[08:39] <bobo37773> dRounse: let me know when its up. Ill meet you there
[08:40] <eggzeck> pangolin: Me neither.
[08:40] <terminhell> ill tab to #linux
[08:40] <jawshr> terminhell I MAY have restarted during the update :)
[08:40] <dRounse> pangolin idk i was just being random
[08:40] <pangolin> dRounse: stick to the topic please
[08:40] <terminhell> jawshr:  not good, run a dpkg -f i think?
[08:40] <pangolin> Don't go around implying people are racists
[08:40] <gordon1234> jawshr, have a look here http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[08:41] <dRounse> gahhhh its frickin linux people why cant we help someone who is having problems? if you were having ubuntu problems wouldnt you like someone to say " well maybe ubuntu is too hard try x distro"
[08:41] <dRounse> bobo37773 sure thing
[08:41] <gordon1234> jawshr, was it a clean install, or an upgrade you have done?
[08:41] <jawshr> gordon sorry I should have specified that wifi worked on my first startup but doesnt anymore
[08:41] <jawshr> clean install 11.10
[08:42] <terminhell> laptop?
[08:42] <jawshr> yup, hp mini 110
[08:42] <gordon1234> dell mini, wasn't it?
[08:42] <terminhell> wifi button?
[08:42] <gordon1234> ooohh ... HP, sorry
[08:42] <jawshr> no, cant even see a wifi interface anymore
[08:42] <terminhell> Fn+wifi button on keyboard?
[08:42] <eggzeck> dRounse: If anyone thinks Ubuntu is too hard then I DO NOT recommend any other linux distro :-)
[08:43] <evildaemon> terminhell: I just wanted to thank you for your help the other night. Turns out the problem was me not putting in my password right.
[08:43] <jawshr> ill try that
[08:43] <terminhell> evildaemon: Your welcome. what was the problem again? local host not connecting?
[08:43] <varikonniemi> dRounse, well that is kind of a problem isn't it? I have tried asking several times why my systems always boot up with a zombie process. I was told it was not normal. I then went and reinstalled, and same thing happened
[08:43] <jawshr> I have a dual boot setup so I'll have to go back
[08:43] <evildaemon> terminhell: Considering that I've been trying to fix this for like, ever, I felt pretty dumb.
[08:43] <dRounse> eggzeck i know but i think "the distro named after a plant" is easier
[08:43] <evildaemon> terminhell: Wifi wouldn't authenticate.
[08:43] <varikonniemi> then i wnt to look at my 2 other ubuntu computers, and they have exactly same thing, so it seems to be normal...
[08:44] <terminhell> evildaemon: AH, i was close :p i try to be on most nights around this time
[08:44] <evildaemon> terminhell: Well it was a improper caps issue. So the password was right, except not. Very insidious.
[08:44] <terminhell> usually is haha
[08:45] <eggzeck> lol
[08:45] <gordon1234> jawshr, this may help too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1805960
[08:45] <jawshr> anyway I am also having driver issues with my touchpad and sound
[08:45] <terminhell> jawshr: thats probably an incorrectly xorg.conf
[08:45] <evildaemon> Make no mistake, I looked over that password at least a couple dozen times.
[08:45] <jawshr> I have tried a rfkill unblock all
[08:46] <dRounse> varikonniemi i really cant help i wish i could
[08:46] <terminhell> evildaemon: ya, sometimes its good to actually hand write things out haha
[08:46] <terminhell> and always enable "Show password"
[08:46] <gordon1234> jawshr, can you do a lspci -vnn | grep 14e4
[08:47] <jawshr> what will that do gordon?
[08:47] <gordon1234> jawshr, it will tell you the exact model of the wifi card
[08:47] <dRounse> jawshr gordon will do what gordon wants
[08:47] <jawshr> lol just wondering :)
[08:47] <dRounse> lol
[08:48] <jawshr> alright
[08:48] <meskarune> jawshr; lspci is list pci so it shots pci devices (cards plugged into the mother board)
[08:48] <gordon1234> :-)
[08:48] <CharminTheMoose> My /etc/issue isn't being read, an old /etc/issue keeps appearing for some reason. What did I mess up?
[08:48] <meskarune> jawshr: and grep is file search
[08:48] <gordon1234> jawshr, can you paste the output here?
[08:48] <jawshr> I am actually in my win7 parition ATM
[08:49] <jawshr> I'll log into IRC on another PC and boot back into ubuntu
[08:49] <gordon1234> jawshr, does your wi-fi work ok when you boot in Windows?
[08:49] <gordon1234> LOL ... that may have been a dumb question :-)
[08:50] <jawshr> yes its working fine right now gordon
[08:50] <jawshr> I am thinking something may have happened when I restarted during an update
[08:50] <gordon1234> jawshr, ok. If you can get that lspci output please
[08:50] <eggzeck> gordon1234: Dumb no, weird yes. But I see where you were going with that :-)
[08:50] <jawshr> no probs, just be a couple of minutes
[08:51] <gordon1234> eggzeck, :-)
[08:54] <meet> should i install all the recommended updates?
[08:54] <terminhell> probably
[08:54] <eggzeck> meet: I like to stay up-to-date, but that's entirely up to you.
[08:55] <terminhell> unless your reliant on a specific version of something
[08:55] <aBound> eggzeck, Me too.
[08:55] <meet> is there any chance of problems to occur after all the updates are done. on linux mint after installing the recommneded updates my wifi card was not uninstalled.
[08:55] <terminhell> ...NOT uninstalled. sounds  like a plus
[08:56] <mint> meet not uninstalled?
[08:56] <meet> oops :) uninstalled.
[08:56] <eggzeck> meet: Why would your WiFi card uninstall after an update?
[08:56] <eggzeck> I odn't think I'm following
[08:56] <auronandace> eggzeck: might be a kernel update
[08:56] <meet> i dont know. after updates it was not even been detected! so i am apprehensive about doing  the current update
[08:57] <eggzeck> auronandace: He said it was not uninstalled.
[08:57] <eggzeck> meet: Oh you mean it WAS uninstalled
[08:57] <pnorman> My /boot is 94% full. (81/92 MB). Is there anything I can do to clear up space?
[08:57] <mint> meet try and restart or you have a button for the device try and switch it on it should work fine
[08:57] <terminhell> Hmm, not the first time ive heard of wifi breakage after updating in this room tonight.
[08:57] <meet> ya..sry for that.. i meant to say it was uninstalled.
[08:57] <auronandace> pnorman: uninstall old kernels
[08:57] <pnorman> auronandace: How do I find them?
[08:57] <auronandace> pnorman: via synaptic
[08:58] <jawshr> gordon, everyone. This time I booted into ubuntu and all my hardware is running fine
[08:58] <pnorman> synaptic?
[08:58] <auronandace> pnorman: the package manager
[08:58] <pnorman> you mean apt?
[08:58] <jawshr> Did i need a restart after a rfkill unblock all?
[08:58] <gordon1234> jawshr, glad I sorted it for you ;-)
[08:58] <meet> so should i go ahead with the update or am i better off without it. because i have installed the security updates.
[08:58] <jawshr> heheh thanks heaps for being so helpful
[08:58] <auronandace> !info synaptic | pnorman
[08:59] <pnorman> I don't have a GUI
[08:59] <auronandace> pnorman: then do it via apt
[08:59] <CharminTheMoose> My /etc/issue isn't being read, an old /etc/issue keeps appearing at the login prompt for some reason. What did I mess up?
[08:59] <bilbo_> is there a way to duplicate the dash of the unity interface onto a second monitor so i have it both places?
[09:00] <pnorman> auronandace: How do I find which packages to uninstall?
[09:00] <bilbo_> or is there a program file i can put on the desktop for use on the second monitor?
[09:00] <auronandace> pnorman: i'm not good with apt-get, someone else might know
[09:00] <eggzeck> meet: If you're worried something may break (which is entirely possible but not probable) then just install important/security updates. Or don't update any packages that will mess around with your adapters.
[09:00] <gordon1234> CharminTheMoose, isn't it issue.net?
[09:01] <meet> ok. i have installed the security updates. btw how frequently are the updates released?
[09:01] <bobo37773> pnorman: how could /boot be that full?
[09:01] <bilbo_> sudo apt-get remove {program} i believe
[09:01] <CharminTheMoose> gordon1234, nope, /etc/issue is what I'm having a problem with.
[09:01] <gbear14275> Hello, I'm trying to reconfigure my server and am suffering a bit of OCD for partitioning...
[09:02] <bilbo_> or use synaptic and look in the menus
[09:02] <gbear14275> I have both an SSD and then a hardware RAID array...  Not sure what to put where...
[09:02] <bobo37773> pnorman: old kernels probably
[09:02] <gbear14275> what I'm wondering about is because I have a hardware RAID array... do I need LVM for it?
[09:02] <pnorman> I know how to remove packages with apt, it's finding out which packages I need to remove I'm not sure on
[09:03] <terminhell> gbear14275: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Partitioning
[09:03] <terminhell> gbear14275: scroll down to the partitioning scheme section
[09:03] <bobo37773> pnorman: ls /boot
[09:03] <gordon1234> CharminTheMoose, they get updated, but it would normally prompt if you want to keep the modified version. Not sure
[09:04] <pnorman> dpkg -l linux-*server* finds them
[09:04] <kalimojo> hi
[09:04] <bobo37773> kalimojo: hey
[09:05] <bluefrog> pnorman base-files
[09:05] <bluefrog> pnorman dpkg -S /etc/issue
[09:08] <onasis> seems to be a lot of talk in the ubuntu community about what is the preferred way of recording and what DAW to use, anyone got any good points/tips on this please?
[09:08] <bobo37773> onasis: what is a "daw"
[09:08] <onasis> lol! Digital Audio Workstation
[09:09] <bobo37773> onasis: for recording what?
[09:09] <ylmfos> hi
[09:09] <bobo37773> onasis: oh audio duh its late
[09:09] <onasis> lol! come on bobo!
[09:09] <chachin> hey how do i get out of "nano" on ubuntu vps :o
[09:09] <bobo37773> onasis: hahaha
[09:09] <ylmfos> hi everybody
[09:09] <pnorman> chachin: control-x
[09:09] <bobo37773> ylmfos: hey
[09:10] <onasis> its early here 09:00am
[09:10] <pnorman> apt-get remove on what dpkg -l reported did it - I just have -16 on /boot now, 30MB used
[09:10] <bobo37773> chachin: "^" means ctrl key
[09:11] <bobo37773> chachin: the rest of the options should be displayed on the bottom
[09:11] <Stava> Will unity get dual/multi screen support eventually?
[09:11] <bobo37773> unity does not support multiple screens? really?
[09:12] <terminhell> and back
[09:12] <samuel> aparrently it is supported in 12.04
[09:12] <bobo37773> terminhell: a lot of name switches there. pretty suspicious..... hahaha
[09:12] <Stava> Depends on how you define support i guess, but the indicators do not work properly with multiple monitors
[09:13] <bobo37773> is there any way to connect to same server / username in seperate terrminal with irssi? I need verticle split
[09:13] <Stava> And the application menu bar does not work as i would have expected, either
[09:14] <terminhell> bobo37773: irssi giving me issues logging back in...lag
[09:15] <bobo37773> terminhell: really? do you do autologin to freenode in your .irssi/config ?
[09:16] <bobo37773> terminhell: auto username all that stuff
[09:16] <terminhell> bobo37773: not yet, dont use irssi often. but i think ill change that now. i get tired of a gui sometimes
[09:16] <bobo37773> terminhell: yeah I feel you big time
[09:18] <chachin> hey can someone be cool and show me how to use nano?
[09:18] <chachin> When you've done that, open up unrealircd.conf with a command such as nano or pico.   << how do i do that
[09:18] <chachin> i wanna use nano
[09:18] <terminhell> man nano
[09:18] <chachin> then?
[09:18] <terminhell> read
[09:18] <bobo37773> chachin: then read
[09:18] <bobo37773> haha
[09:18] <terminhell> XD
[09:19] <eggzeck> chachin: nano is not so hard to use. When you start nano there's shortcuts and information displayed at the bottom
[09:19] <terminhell> but to answer your question, you would just type 'nano unrealircd.conf'
[09:19] <terminhell> the "  ^  " is the ctrl key
[09:20] <bobo37773> chachin: when you load nano all of the options are at the bottom. usually to open a program with another one the default is almost always -->    program /path/to/file
[09:20] <chachin> so it would be: nano /home/chachin/unreal3.2/unrealircd.conf
[09:20] <chachin> :o
[09:20] <bobo37773> chachin: yepper
[09:21] <chachin> there's nothing O.o
[09:21] <eggzeck> chachin: or "nano ~/unreal3.2/unrealircd.conf"
[09:21] <bobo37773> chachin: does the file exist and or did you spell it right and or the right path blahblahblah etc etc
[09:22]  * malkauns_ awaits his first mined 0.1 BTC :P
[09:22] <bobo37773> chachin: try to ls the file to make sure its there
[09:22] <terminhell> i dont know why im in #ubuntu and i dont even use it. Perhaps its where i feel i can give the most help?
[09:22] <chachin> http://i.imgur.com/VO6WA.png
[09:22] <chachin> see
[09:23] <bobo37773> terminhell: yep. exactly. it is more fun for sure
[09:23] <terminhell> *tips hat
[09:23] <chachin> yup its there
[09:24] <eggzeck> I think chachin meant the file is empty
[09:25] <bobo37773> chachin: oh a windows user I see... just kidding. you need to learn a few basics thats all. does the file need to be created or did it already exist? also just so you know all things are case sensitive in gnu
[09:25] <ServerTech> Okay I start Ubuntu 11.10 with live cd on my laptop which has a HDD with bad sectors. Any free program available like DD_rescue to try to recover the data on the HDD before I change it? I can't get to install dd_rescue, could you tell me how to install it? Or any other program?
[09:25] <chachin> DUUUUH
[09:25] <chachin> thank you bobo37773 ;)
[09:25] <chachin> case sensitivity :P
[09:26] <ServerTech> I did download gddrescue directly through firefox, but it just doesn't let me ./configure
[09:26] <bobo37773> chachin: no problem hehe. it was wrong case?
[09:26] <damo22> ServerTech do you want a full recovery of tree structure or just files?
[09:26] <ServerTech> damo22: just files
[09:26] <damo22> ServerTech, one option is foremost
[09:26] <terminhell> ServerTech: why risk it, just get a new hdd
[09:27] <ServerTech> terminhell: I am getting a new one, but I need the files on this one.
[09:27] <terminhell> ServerTech: try knoppix
[09:27] <ServerTech> damo22, help for installing?
[09:27] <damo22> ServerTech, do you have space for a dd clone of the dud drive?
[09:27] <bobo37773> ServerTech: You dont need ddrescue. You can just use dd by itself. It should be on the livecd
[09:27] <ServerTech> damo22, i don
[09:27] <ServerTech> t i don't get you?*
[09:28] <royale1223> ServerTech: can you mount the partitions?
[09:28] <ServerTech> royale1223: yep, i can mount and can see all the files, but trying to copy large files results in input/output errors on various parts
[09:28] <terminhell> dd if="/" of="/path/to/another/storage/device"
[09:28] <damo22> ServerTech, its dangerous to mount a dud drive and read files on a filesystem, but it is safer to clone the drive
[09:28] <damo22> terminhell, thats not a good idea
[09:29] <terminhell> why not
[09:29] <damo22> terminhell, you need the device node of the device
[09:29] <ServerTech> damo22: could you help me through it?
[09:29] <bobo37773> damo22: is that not how to clone a drive? of course I would go with 4M to save myself a couple of years
[09:29] <sahil_> how to recover data from external hdd? its showing cyclic redundancy error
[09:29] <royale1223> fortable with dd
[09:30] <damo22> bobo37773, i thought you are supposed to dd if=/dev/sdX
[09:30] <terminhell> damo22: sorry, i didnt mean the actual root partition,
[09:30] <royale1223> ServerTech: you can try partimage if you are not comfortable with dd
[09:30] <sahil_>  how to recover data from external hdd? its showing cyclic redundancy error
[09:30] <ServerTech> also damo22, i need to get the files to an external hdd
[09:30] <thomas__> 1 question - I install 11.10 on my dell hybrid studio, graphics problem fixed but keyboard and mouse do not work in X - any know cheatcodes ?
[09:31] <bobo37773> damo22: oh gotcha. yeah I would probably do per partition your right
[09:31] <terminhell> doesnt spinrite have a tool for attempting to fix things?
[09:31] <ServerTech> royale1223: nothing like that, i just don't know how to use dd
[09:31] <mileon> ServerTech: has you try the partition manager?
[09:31] <damo22> ServerTech where is your massive storage located
[09:31] <mileon> ServerTech: or disk manager
[09:31] <terminhell> thomas__: yes, UP, DOWN, LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT, A, B, SELECT, START
[09:31] <royale1223> ServerTech: then you are better off with partimage, its got a nice cli.
[09:32] <damo22> terminhell, nice
[09:32] <ServerTech> royale1223: could it really create an image of the complete hdd without file loss?
[09:32] <bobo37773> ServerTech: start out by looking at your partitions. --> sudo fdisk -l
[09:32] <sahil_>  how to recover data from external hdd? its showing cyclic redundancy error
[09:32] <damo22> ServerTech see me private message
[09:32] <royale1223> royale1223: depends on the extend of the damage.
[09:33] <bobo37773> terminhell: hahahahaha is that the code or what?!
[09:33] <mileon> bobo37773: i think the gui is better: menu->system->preferences
[09:33] <royale1223> ServerTech: btw please pastebin the output of `sudo fdisk -l`
[09:33] <bobo37773> mileon: what gui? for listing sda / hda partition scheme?
[09:33] <sahil_> can i hav any one's kind attention? :)
[09:34] <bobo37773> sahil_: whats up buddy?
[09:34] <sahil_> how to recover data from external hdd? its showing cyclic redundancy error
[09:34] <royale1223> sahil_: !question
[09:34] <ServerTech> royale1223: yep, hold on
[09:34] <thomas__> terminhell: I'm lost, you mean keystrokes left right? and then A B? what does that mean?
[09:34] <royale1223> !question sahil_
[09:34] <sahil_> how to recover data from external hdd? its showing cyclic redundancy error
[09:34] <Sitho> !list
[09:34] <bobo37773> sahil_: can you not mount it at all?
[09:35] <royale1223> sahil_: what kind of partition in ext. hdd?
[09:35] <sahil_> in lower version of ubuntu,it detects but in oneric,its not detecting atall
[09:35] <sahil_> though gpartted dectects it
[09:35] <sahil_> ntfs
[09:35] <terminhell> thomas__: it was a joke. you need to configure your xorg
[09:36] <terminhell> thomas__: try running X --configure
[09:36] <bobo37773> sahil_: so use version that works as a livecd and back up your data
[09:36] <bobo37773> terminhell: geesh. and I thought nes was world wide hahaha
[09:36] <arunkumar413> hi how to connect to a windows machine from ubuntu
[09:36] <royale1223> paste output of `sudo fdisk -l` and `sudo gparted /dev/sd<wharever>`
[09:36] <mileon> who is the guy with hdd mounting?
[09:37] <mileon> i'm confused and not sure
[09:37] <thomas__> but I cant log into the system as my keyboard and mouse (infrared) do not work
[09:37] <royale1223> thomas__: get a wired keyboard and mouse. no other way.
[09:38] <ServerTech> royale1223, damo22, bobo37773: http://www.pastebin.com/1Nu3yBha
[09:38] <bobo37773> thomas__: you need to switch to a tty or boot into non graphical mode
[09:38] <mileon> !question ServerTech
[09:38] <thomas__> how to boot into non graph mode - the bootloader just starts, how to stop him from starting
[09:38] <bobo37773> edit grub command line while booting and append "3" to grub command. not sure if it works in grub2 but it should
[09:38] <thomas__> ?
[09:39] <thomas__> bobo37773: and once I have done that, what to do next?
[09:39] <mileon> ServerTech: which partition need you
[09:39] <bobo37773> thomas__: should be able to hit e or something to edit grub
[09:39] <raven> xubuntu 11.10 - heavily problems with X11 at startup: http://pastebin.com/kq1dsdqE this messages appears several times in dmesg and Xorg tries to come up every second again
[09:39] <mileon> ServerTech: look the size
[09:39] <bobo37773> thomas__: then boot with the 3 at the end
[09:39] <arunkumar413> hi, i have a laptop with ubuntu and a desktop with windows. i want to connect to the windows desktop to view the movies in the desktop. help me
[09:39] <bobo37773> 3 boots into console
[09:40] <mileon> ServerTech: there is no size available
[09:40] <bobo37773> as in cmd prompt
[09:40] <royale1223> ServerTech: disk geometry seems to be intact. Did you try scanning and fixing ntfs errors in windows? ntfs drivers in ubuntu are good but not that good.
[09:40] <ServerTech> mileon: well i need the complete sda drive
[09:40] <danny_> how do i make the update instaler install no authenticated packages and make it ignore that
[09:40] <bobo37773> arunkumar413: are the files all set up to share from the windows side?
[09:41] <mileon> ServerTech: ok, moment i ask google
[09:41] <terminhell> samba+nfs+ntfs packages
[09:41] <arunkumar413> bobo37773: no
[09:41] <thomas__> bobo37773: ok once I booted with the 3 whats next - any idea?
[09:42] <zamba> do i have to think about anything when moving a software raid from one machine to another?
[09:42] <bobo37773> thomas__: yeah you have to login. did you login
[09:42] <zamba> it's a raid-1
[09:42] <ServerTech> royale1223: i can't boot to windows, startup repair doesn't open, it's windows 7 ultimate x64
[09:42] <raven> xubuntu 11.10 - heavily problems with X11 at startup: http://pastebin.com/kq1dsdqE this messages appears several times in dmesg and Xorg tries to come up every second again
[09:42] <mileon> ServerTech: ok, make plaease a folder in media. the name must choose
[09:43] <mileon> ServerTech: we try now mount each partition
[09:43] <xuser1> hi
, if you setup your Windows PC to share the folder with the movies, you should be able to open that folder on the Ubuntu PC and play the movies using the UBUNTU Movie Player or equivalent
[09:43] <bobo37773> raven: what the heck is unity greeter? sounds like thats the problem
[09:43] <royale1223> ServerTech: i see, what error do you get when you try windows?
[09:43] <bobo37773> xuser1: hey
[09:44] <mileon> ServerTech: you can create for all windows partitions a folder in media
[09:44] <Ben64> raven: that happened on my 12.04
[09:44] <xuser1> ihow can i upgrade from gnome 3.2.1 to gnome 3.2.2(last gnome version) im using ubuntu gnome shell rtemix 11.10 ?
[09:44] <ServerTech> royale1223: BSOD unmountable_boot.. something
[09:44] <xuser1> any ppa for ubuntu?
[09:44] <ServerTech> partition, probably, royale1223
[09:44] <raven> bobo37773, i just installed xubuntu-desktop to a graphical installation. possible that it depends on the wrong login-manager?
[09:45] <mileon> xuser1: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[09:45] <Ben64> raven: what i did was remove unity-greeter and used lightdm-gtk-greeter
[09:45] <bobo37773> raven: yeah thats what I am thinking. can you get to a console?
[09:45] <raven> bobo37773, yes
[09:45] <raven> ill remove it
[09:45] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: windows 7 is allowing share only with other windows machines
[09:45] <bobo37773> raven: make sure you replace it with something else
[09:45] <raven> Ben64, bobo37773 bugreport?
[09:45] <Ben64> raven: remove lightdm-greeter, but then you have another step to do afterwards
[09:46] <Ben64> raven: let me know when you're done removing it
[09:46] <raven> i did
[09:46] <Ben64> ok now.. sudo vim /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[09:46] <raven> now lightdm-gtk-greeter?
[09:46] <Ben64> oh, yes, i forgot, install that first
[09:46] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: i cant find the windows machine on my ubuntu
[09:46] <bobo37773> raven: I would not use lightdm yet but thats just me.
[09:47] <Ben64> lightdm is standard now
[09:47] <royale1223> ServerTech: try this "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs && sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda2"
[09:47] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, is your Windows PC setup for sharing on a Workgroup or a Domain?
[09:48] <bobo37773> Ben64: yeah well standard does not mean 100 percent stable either. At least based on all the things I have heard about it. Maybe they worked out all the bugs. I dont know
[09:48] <raven> Ben64, bobo37773 is there already a bug report?
[09:48] <ServerTech> royale1223: hold up
[09:48] <terminhell> anyone know where the default save location for lynx is?
[09:48] <Ben64> raven: it was on 12.04, not sure
[09:48] <spacebug-> terminhell: I would think current dir
[09:48] <Ben64> bobo37773: i mean i'm pretty sure lightdm is used on every install by default 11.10+
[09:48] <raven> Ben64, i am on 11.10 now
[09:48] <royale1223> ServerTech: its worth a try but i can assure you anything. It will take long time and might make the win7 bootable.
[09:49] <Ben64> raven: you install lightdm-gtk-greeter?
[09:49] <royale1223> ServerTech: its worth a try but i can't assure you anything. It will take long time and might make the win7 bootable.
[09:49] <terminhell> spacebug-: ya, me too...
[09:49] <bobo37773> Ben64: that does not mean it is worth using
[09:49] <ServerTech> royale1223: okay, let's see
[09:49] <Ben64> bobo37773: its already in use...
[09:49] <bobo37773> Ben64: ok
[09:49] <raven> Ben64, yes
[09:49] <Ben64> raven:  sudo vim /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[09:49] <ServerTech> okay i don
[09:49] <Ben64> raven: greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter
[09:50] <ServerTech> okay i don't think a long time has passed royale1223 but it says NTFS partition /dev/sda2 was processed successfully
[09:50] <royale1223> ServerTech: did it detect any errors?
[09:51] <ServerTech> no royale1223
[09:51] <ServerTech> should i try it for sda3?
[09:51] <ServerTech> and 4? probably
[09:51] <mileon> ServerTech: 4 can you never choose
[09:52] <raven> Ben64, done - reboot and try?
[09:52] <royale1223> ServerTech: then it probably didn't work. was it unmounted?
[09:52] <mileon> ServerTech: 1-3 5-x
[09:52] <Ben64> raven: yep
[09:52] <ServerTech> royale1223: yep it was
[09:53] <royale1223> ServerTech: you can try, and then try copying the big file.
[09:53] <gil> Hi all
[09:53] <gil> I need some help
[09:53] <bobo37773> gil: Hey!
[09:53] <royale1223> ServerTech: if it fails mount by `sudo mkdir /media/windows && sudo ntfs-3g -o force,rw /dev/<device name> /media/windows`
[09:54] <playit> hey i have ubuntu 11.10 with gnome-shell ( gnome 3.2 ) and im looking to use remote desktop
[09:54] <ServerTech> royale1223:
[09:54] <royale1223> ServerTech: btw i assume that you have ntfs-3g installed.
[09:54] <ServerTech> royale1223: okay.
[09:54] <bobo37773> gil: what's the issue you are having?
[09:54] <playit> i see theres a vinagre for gnome 3.2 .. how do i get this on ubuntu 11.10
[09:54] <playit> or do I already have it
[09:54] <gil> Bobo I was trying to run a update and it said something about restart xscreen saver and xlockmore
[09:55] <bobo37773> gil: okay and?
[09:55] <bobo37773> gil: restart xserver maybe?
[09:55] <raven> Ben64, still no login to vnc possible
[09:55] <gil> I don't know how to restart them and I didn't even have xlockmore installed
[09:55] <Ben64> raven: vnc?
[09:56] <bobo37773> gil: just reboot your computer. that will restart xserver
[09:56] <raven> Ben64, x11vnc
[09:56] <starlon> Where does the money come from to host Ubuntu's updates, et al?
[09:56] <ServerTech> royale1223: hold up, im trying something by damo22 now, and yes it was installed before
[09:56] <Ben64> raven: i know what vnc is... but why aren't you using a monitor
[09:56] <royale1223> ServerTech: you can check by 'dpkg-query -s ntfs-3g'. if its not installed 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g', and repeat all the previous steps.
[09:56] <gil> I did that but I lost everything and had to reinstall
[09:56] <playit> I guess what i dont understand is im trying to share the computer on VNC to my kindle 3 but for some reason x11 is the only thing that showed anything
[09:56] <playit> 'x11vnc' but my gnome 3.2 froze
[09:57] <playit> not sure if it was related or not
[09:57] <bobo37773> gil: What? are you tring to install a certain sofware? or are you installing the os?
[09:57] <raven> Ben64, small network machine
[09:57] <gil> updateing ubuntu
[09:58] <aaron> ds
[09:58] <bobo37773> gil: and when you rebooted you have to all of your updates over?
[09:58] <Ben64> raven: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:58] <Guest41481> vb'
[09:58] <gil> I got xscreensaver and xlockmore uninstalled do you think that well help?
[09:59] <bobo37773> gil: I dont see why it would matter at all unless there were dependency conflicts
[10:00] <bobo37773> gil: so the problem it that you cannot update your system?
[10:00] <gil> I got a screenshot of it
[10:00] <Whiskey> what do you need for package to read rar files?
[10:00] <bobo37773> gil: upload it so we can see
[10:00] <Jordan_U> !rar | Whiskey
[10:00] <bobo37773> Whiskey: the rar package maybe
[10:01] <Stanley00> Hello everyone. I want to install a minimal ubuntu, just include unity and some stuffs. I have installed a commandline system from alternate cd. Then I installed xserver-xorg and unity. Is this the right way? What should I install more? Thanks.
[10:01] <ServerTech> royale1223: trying out dd with damo22's help, it's copying like 3 MB a minute, it'll take ages to copy at that rate
[10:01] <royale1223> !info ntfsprogs
[10:01] <gil> I'm sending it to you bobo37773
[10:02] <royale1223> ServerTech: the problem with that is it will dd out the corrupted data too.
[10:02] <bobo37773> gil: dont send it to me. upload it and drop a link here. it is bedtime for me
[10:02] <gil> ok
[10:02] <damo22> royale1223, what do you mean?
[10:03] <gil> http://imagebin.org/199641 this is my problum
[10:03] <damo22> royale1223, we put the noerror and notrunc conv options for dd
[10:03] <damo22> royale1223, so it will not truncate the output file when it cant read
[10:03] <felicinos> ciao
[10:03] <felicinos> !list
[10:04] <royale1223> damo22: okay, we'll see. but won't there be data loss?
[10:04] <damo22> royale1223, there will be loss when it cant read the physical sectors it will write 0s
[10:04] <Jordan_U> damo22: royale1223: It sounds like what you really want is GNU ddrescue.
[10:04] <monsterripper> mornin'
[10:04] <gil> I need some help here I'm haveing a problum with my OS
[10:04] <royale1223> damo22: so isn't it better to try and see if the partition is fixable?
[10:05] <raven> Ben64, bobo37773 http://pastebin.com/iqNMgVht
[10:05] <royale1223> damo22: before dd ing and erasing and all?
[10:05] <VIPER-II> hiyaz. Anyone in here managed to get SICKBEARD to work on Ubuntu?
[10:05] <felicinos> ciao
[10:05] <damo22> royale1223, we are not erasing the disk!! i am making  a clone of the drive
[10:05] <felicinos> !list
[10:05] <VIPER-II> damo: clone? Drive?    Norton Ghost ftw!!!
[10:05] <bobo37773> gil: oh distrobution upgrade. can't help you there. I only ever do or reccomend clean installs unless using rolling release
[10:05] <damo22> VIPER-II, no, dd ftw
[10:06] <Jordan_U> royale1223: Do you mind giving a quick recap of your original problem and what you're trying to do now?
[10:06] <VIPER-II> hmm okays.
[10:06] <arunkumar413> hi how to connect to windows machine, the files in the windows have been setup for sharing
[10:07] <royale1223> Jordan_U: problem is not for me. Its ServerTech 's proble. He have corrupted ntfs partitions.
[10:07] <juxta> what PATH would /etc/rc.local execute with by default? my commands seem to be being skipped, I'm guessing the path in use is not valid
[10:07] <damo22> Jordan_U, i am helping ServerTech recover some data from his physically damaged disk
[10:08] <mohammadtiti> hi everyone....how can i install ubuntu alongside my windows7 while it doesn't recognize my partitions?i mean ubuntu treat my partitioned hdd as a raw hdd without partition...
[10:08] <damo22> Jordan_U, the only difference between using dd and dd_rescue is that it will jump ahead when it cant read some sectors
[10:08] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, so under your Windows PC>Computer>Properties is it set up as a WORKGROUP or a DOMAIN?
[10:09] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: workgroup
[10:10] <Jordan_U> damo22: That may be true of dd_rescue (I don't know much about dd_rescue) but GNU ddrescue is an entirely different (and much better) program which does much more than that. (logging, returning to bad sectors *after a full pass* and trying reads of smaller block sizes, etc).,
[10:10] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, and when you log into your UBUNTU machine in File Manager when you select connect to Netrowk Drives, do you see a Windows Network icon?
[10:10] <gordon1234> *Network
[10:10] <svrnmnd> hey I lost my bottom bar by accident how do I create a pannel that shows my open windows at the bottom of the screen?
[10:11] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: no, there is no icon to connect to network
[10:11] <greenberet> Hi, when i want to setup a bluetooth dun I only see the wizard once and I cannot change  the apn settings after that, i have to remove the device name and then add it as a new device, any workaround for that?
[10:11] <gil> Hi all I'm have a OS problum and I was wondering if someone could help me figure it out
[10:12] <royale1223> !question | gil
[10:12] <bazhang> gil, what version of Ubuntu
[10:12] <svrnmnd> can someone help me restore my bottom pannel?
[10:12] <gil> I'm useing pepperment
[10:12] <Jordan_U> ServerTech: You can install GNU ddrescue (which is better than dd_rescue) from an Ubuntu LiveCD by running "sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe && sudo apt-get install gddrescue" make sure you give at least a quick look at the man page and specify a log file.
[10:12] <bazhang> gil, whats that
[10:13] <greenberet> ??
[10:13] <Jordan_U> ServerTech: Sorry, make that "sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gddrescue".
[10:13] <gil> I have a picture of my problum
[10:14] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, when you setup the share on with Windows folder, what is the name of the share?
[10:14] <royale1223> Jordan_U: what if the partition is fixable via ntfsfix or windows utility?
[10:14] <bazhang> gil, is that MINT? or some other derivative
[10:14] <greenberet> Hi, when i want to setup a bluetooth dun I only see the wizard once and I cannot change  the apn settings after that, i have to remove the device name and then add it as a new device, any workaround for that?
[10:14] <Jordan_U> royale1223: Then it's probably not a hardware problem.
[10:14] <gil> http://www.imagebin.org/199641
[10:14] <gil> it's pretty much like ubuntu
[10:14] <royale1223> Jordan_U: so isn't it better to try fixing the partition instead of dd?
[10:15] <bazhang> gil, its not supported here. try the peppermint forums or use alis
[10:15] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: i found the go to network drives from the go menu. but it is asking password to login to the windows machine
[10:15] <bazhang> !alis | gil
[10:15] <greenberet> can somone [maybe anyone] assist?
[10:15] <svrnmnd> can anyone help me restore my bottom launcher pannel?!?!
[10:15] <raven> Ben64, bobo37773 http://pastebin.com/iqNMgVht
[10:15] <royale1223> svrnmnd: what version of ubuntu?
[10:15] <svrnmnd> 10.04
[10:15] <Jordan_U> royale1223: I'm trying to look through the scrollback now to see why dd came up in the first place and why it's thought to be a hardware problem.
[10:16] <ryzzan> just installed ubuntu on two pcs... wasn't i supposed to be able to see them when "browse network"?
[10:16] <gil> ok thank you
[10:16] <royale1223> Jordan_U: its not a hw problem demo22 recommended dd.
[10:16] <royale1223> svrnmnd: hold up
[10:16] <arunkumar413> gordon1234, the pc name is rohitamr-pc
[10:16] <fortytwo_de> hello guys! I'm having trouble with my audio settings. When I set it using the ubuntu applet sound works perfectly, but after a reboot it restores its non-working status. http://paste.debian.net/156790/
[10:17] <damo22> Jordan_U, it IS a hardware problem, the dmesg is full of i/o errors
[10:17] <mohammadtiti> this problem of mine freaked me out....
[10:17] <fortytwo_de> I'm positive the device I need to use is card 2 device 1 (because when I set it with the gnome applet, that card goes to the first position)
[10:17] <fortytwo_de> however when I try to speaker-test it, I get that error
[10:17] <fortytwo_de> and yes, my user is added to the audio group
[10:17] <fortytwo_de> I'm pretty much lost at this point
[10:17] <gordon1234> arunkumar413 This is good. You should be able to put smb://192.168.xxx.xxx/share_name$ (the ip address of the Windows PC and the share_name you created on it) into the file manager ... enter the user id and passowrd you would use to log into the Windows PC
[10:18] <mohammadtiti> actually i don't know what else should i do?if somebody help me i would be grateful
[10:18] <bazhang> mohammadtiti, with what
[10:18] <fortytwo_de> so, can anybody help?
[10:18] <royale1223> damo22: also please don't encourage private chat because rest of the users can't see what's going on. In this case we didn't know about demsg errors.
[10:18] <ryzzan> just installed ubuntu on two pcs... wasn't i supposed to be able to see them when "browse network"?
[10:18] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: there is password for windows machine
[10:19] <fortytwo_de> can anybody please help me? ^
[10:19] <mohammadtiti> with this bazhang: how can i install ubuntu alongside my windows7 while it doesn't recognize my partitions?i mean ubuntu treat my partitioned hdd as a raw hdd without partition...
[10:19] <pnorman> I'm trying to figure out the dependencies of a package in a PPA. How would I do this?
[10:19] <damo22> royale1223, its better this way i dont flood the channel with useless info
[10:19] <royale1223> !repeat | svrnmnd
[10:19] <bazhang> mohammadtiti, windows already installed? you are in the ubuntu live cd now?
[10:19] <royale1223> svrnmnd: http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[10:19] <fortytwo_de> can anybody help with my audio configuration problem? http://paste.debian.net/156790/
[10:19] <svrnmnd> what is !repeat | ??
[10:19] <greenberet> need help with bluetooth dialup
[10:20] <greenberet> I need to change my apn how to do that?
[10:20] <royale1223> royale1223: it beats the purpose of the channel. #ubuntu is for asking questions and getting answers.
[10:20] <mohammadtiti> yes i had a preinstalled windows7 HP X64 SP1, and i'm in live cd....
[10:20] <xuser1> how can i install last stable gnome3 version (from ppa)?
[10:20] <greenberet> apn means access point name
[10:20] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, if you go into change the computer name you will see the name of the Workgroup .. the default is WORKGROUP. Leave the password blank when connecting, but it will need your logon name.
[10:20] <bazhang> xuser1, what version of ubuntu are you on now
[10:21] <svrnmnd> ok im also having a display problem. I just plugged VGA from my laptop to my laptop and used monitors to use the larger display...but now when I play my video I only get audio and a black box where vlc is no matter which screen
[10:21] <xuser1> 11.10
[10:21] <bazhang> xuser1, you have gnome3 already, why would you want the ppa
[10:21] <svrnmnd> from my laptop to my plasma*
[10:21] <royale1223> svrnmnd: just don't repeat the question so often. did you try the link.
[10:21] <fortytwo_de> can anybody help with my audio configuration problem? http://paste.debian.net/156790/
[10:21] <svrnmnd> yea roale the question was for a different problem
[10:21] <xuser1> i have gnome 3.2.1 , i wantr last stable version
[10:21] <greenberet> bazhang can you help me with bluetooth dial up networking I want to change my apn [access point name]
[10:22] <svrnmnd> display problem while watching movies on a different display
[10:22] <fortytwo_de> can anybody help with my audio configuration problem? http://paste.debian.net/156790/
[10:22] <royale1223> xuser1: are you talking about gnome3 shell?
[10:23] <xuser1> gnome  3
[10:23] <VIPER-II> what's the command to look at the mainboard's model from within commandline of Linux?
[10:23] <bazhang> VIPER-II, sudo lshw ?
[10:24] <casibaeus> hey, i just installed ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop but i need to install vpnc to access the internet. I have vpnc as a .deb package and can open it with the software center however the 'install button' is greyed out. Is there any terminal command i should use instead?
[10:24] <greenberet> sudo lshw or dmidecode VIPER-II
[10:24] <fortytwo_de> can anybody help with my audio configuration problem? http://paste.debian.net/156790/
[10:24] <xuser1> is gnome 3.2.1 last stable relase?
[10:24] <bazhang> xuser1, yes
[10:24] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, Good tutorial here http://www.7tutorials.com/how-access-windows-7-shared-folders-ubuntu
[10:25] <greenberet> VIPER-II u need to install dmidecode [sudo apt install dmidecode]
[10:25] <xuser1> ok
[10:25] <bazhang> fortytwo_de, dont repeat every minute. patience please
[10:25] <royale1223> xuser1: ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[10:25] <fortytwo_de> bazhang: sorry :)
[10:25] <bazhang> royale1223, he should not be using a PPA as he is on 11.10 already
[10:25] <greenberet> hey bazhang, can u help me out with bluetooth dun?
[10:27] <royale1223> bazhang: i think that ppa is more updated not sure though.
[10:27] <VIPER-II> greenberet: ok thanks.
[10:27] <mohammadtiti> dude...?
[10:28] <greenberet> you are welcome VIPER-II
[10:28] <VIPER-II> btw how do i check the amount of free space on my HDD?  Graphical or command line?
[10:28] <casibaeus> nvm had to use dkpg
[10:29] <royale1223> bazhang: actually it is contains 3.2.2 for oneric
[10:29] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: http://imagebin.org/199651. this is the structure of the network. help me how to connect
[10:30] <raven> Ben64, bobo37773 still there?
[10:31] <meskarune> VIPER-II you can do df to see what space your disk is using. or install a graphical utility http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerhope.com%2Funix%2Fudf.htm&ei=e89AT_LlHuOA2AW1zo2DCA&usg=AFQjCNH6OZ7IDksLlxDZQCwpS-VNqnF8zA&sig2=p-3KFJrD6sKqM3jQa4E9pA
[10:31] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, and when you press enter, what happens?
[10:32] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: it asks for a password
[10:32] <fortytwo_de> can anybody help with my audio configuration problem? http://paste.debian.net/156790/
[10:32] <VIPER-II> hmm ok thanks meskarune
[10:32] <meskarune> VIPER-II: try "df -h /home"
[10:33] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: it also says the specified location is not mounted
[10:33] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, you have the computer name in the user name field ... you need your windows user name in there ... when you logon to your windows PC, whatever that user name is, is the one you need in that field
[10:33] <VIPER-II> ah.... i get the idea... :)
[10:36] <Jordan_U> ServerTech: Are you still here? Did you get my message about GNU ddrescue and how to install it?
[10:36] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: for wondows there is no login password
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> VIPER-II  simply type df -h
[10:36] <mohan_> Can we get Ubuntu TV now or have to wait for Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[10:36] <raven> Ben64, ?
[10:37] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, you may not have a login password, but you will have a user id .... if you co into the control panel on your windows pc and select users, it will tell you in there
[10:37] <iceroot> mohan_: even longer
[10:37] <mohan_> ohh
[10:37] <iceroot> mohan_: its just a concept at the moment
[10:37] <samuel> hello, i wonder if anyone can help me troubleshoot a problem i'm having
[10:37] <mohan_> ohh
[10:37] <mohan_> ic
[10:38] <oCean> !utv | mohan_
[10:38] <mohan_> is it going to be a free service ?
[10:38] <iceroot> mohan_: see #ubuntu-tv
[10:38] <iceroot> mohan_: yes
[10:38] <iceroot> mohan_: the software and the service is free
[10:38] <mohan_> maybe they will charge the content
[10:38] <samuel> after running an update on a newly installed system, after the grub menu has gone, it seems to freeze at the ubuntu logo/splash, and this goes for the older kernel also. any idea's on how to figure this one out??
[10:39] <oCean> mohan_: discussion in #ubuntu-tv, not here
[10:39] <iceroot> mohan_: atm they dont have own content
[10:39] <mohan_> alright :)
[10:39] <mohan_> noted
[10:39] <mohan_> thanks
[10:41] <alex-> My phone has an DLNA server to show pictures on the tv n stuff, is it possible that I install some kind of DLNA client on my ubuntu server, which gets the data from my phone automaticly, and puts it dynamicly on a SAMBA share?
[10:41] <fortytwo_de> alex-: samba
[10:42] <fortytwo_de> xbmc¡
[10:42] <fortytwo_de> sorry, xbmc
[10:42] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, out of interest, you may want to double click on the "Windows Network" icon on Ubuntu and see if your Windows file share appears in there
[10:42] <alex-> fortytwo_de: what do you mean?
[10:42] <alex-> I don't want a GUI or something
[10:43] <alex-> I want my server to see if there are any DLNA servers, and then the server gets the data from it (e.g. copy or just some kind of symlink) and then put it on the SAMBA share so I can view it in my whole network
[10:43] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: it says the specified location is not mounted
[10:43] <thomas__> how to stop bootloader from booting - pressing e does not work!
[10:44] <Jordan_U> thomas__: Hold shift.
[10:44] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, have you found out your Windows user id yet?
[10:44] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: the windows system is setup with a admin password
[10:45] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: what is that user id, where to find it. is it the name of the pc we have given
[10:45] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: from the screen shot given, what is the name of the computer is rohitamr-pc
[10:46] <alex-> fortytwo_de:  ^
[10:46] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, the user id is your Windows user id ... it is not the name of the computer we need it is your user id ... if you go into the control panel on your windows pc and look in the users icon it will show you all the users
[10:47] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: yes, the user name is rohitamr-pc
[10:48] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: when windows pc was setup for sharing it said it only shares with windows pc
[10:52] <samuel> after running an update on a newly installed system, after the grub menu has gone, it seems to freeze at the ubuntu logo/splash, and this goes for the older kernel also. any idea's on how to figure this one out??
[10:55] <mohammadtiti> is there anybody who can help me with this freaking problem of mine?
[10:56] <mbroeker> samuel, does your machine boot normally in recovery mode?
[10:56] <mohammadtiti> اow can i install ubuntu alongside my windows7 while it doesn't recognize my partitions?i mean ubuntu treat my partitioned hdd as a raw hdd without partition...
[10:57] <mohammadtiti> how can i install ubuntu alongside my windows7 while it doesn't recognize my partitions?i mean ubuntu treat my partitioned hdd as a raw hdd without partition...
[10:57] <theadmin> Will VLC 2.0 get packaged for Oneiric officially? It currently seems to have 1.x
[10:57] <CharminTheMoose> Why is it that despite removing the hooks in /usr/share/initramfs-tools for plymouth and framebuffer and using update-initramfs, I still get a splash screen?
[10:58] <raven> X11 startup problems: http://pastebin.com/iqNMgVht
[10:59] <arunkumar413> gordon1234, i'm able view the drives and folder of the windows pc but gain it is asking for username and password
[10:59] <samuel> mbroeker yes, i can get a terminal from the recovery mode but startx doesnt work
[10:59] <samuel> i think it might be related to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1896061
[11:00] <samuel> as i also have an amd graphics card, it sounds like the same problem, i will give it a try!
[11:00] <mbroeker> CharminTheMoose, edit /etc/default/grub and set GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" followed by sudo update-initramfs -ck $(uname -r) && sudo update-grub
[11:00] <samuel> is there any way i can confirm this from the root terminal in recovery mode?
[11:00] <raven> X11 startup problems: http://pastebin.com/iqNMgVht
[11:01] <mbroeker> samuel, enter the recovery mode, enter startx and paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:02] <m_fulder> hey!
[11:02] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, yes, you will need the user name and password from the Windows machine. Not the computer name. Again, you can get this in the Windows Control Panel under the Users icon. Do you have physical access to logon to the Windows PC to do this?
[11:02] <samuel> thank you i will do that asap (waiting for windows to install updates while i research the problem)
[11:02] <zezom> I had a working Ubuntu system until I took out 2 3T drives that I had set up in an LVM and put a different 3TB hard drive in. Now grub does not show. all I get is the monitor telling me that the sync is out of range and when I press ctrl alt delete the system reboot instantly. grub appears to be installed correctly. Is any one familiar with this problem?
[11:02] <CharminTheMoose> mbroeker, well that doesn't answer my question, I'm not looking to disable it via the boot-options. I'm asking why it gets added to the initrd even if I remove the hooks in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks
[11:03] <m_fulder> I want a script running on startup as non-root so I've edited the /etc/rc.local file to startup my script with "su" ... though this script start up several screen-windows and I would like to reach them from the root account is that possible??
[11:03] <bal_> how to install ipmessanger?
[11:03] <mbroeker> CharminTheMoose, have you at least recreated the initramfs with the -ck $(uname -r) option?
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> bal_  what is ipmessenger exactly?
[11:04] <CharminTheMoose> mbroeker, Well, I also tacked on the -t command too.
[11:04] <CharminTheMoose> But yes, I have recreated the initramfs
[11:05] <CharminTheMoose> s/command/switch
[11:05] <bal_> MonkeyDust:  it is a messenger wthin local network use in windows and mac
[11:05] <mbroeker> ok: that's strange, CharminTheMoose! it's the magic of ubuntu then...
[11:06] <bal_> once i tryed with wine but not work properly out going message skeeps
[11:06] <CharminTheMoose> Hehe, cheers mbroeker, guess I'll just have to get RTFM then. :D
[11:07] <liam_> is there a way to create an encrypted lvm install on part of the disk instead of the entire thing?
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> bal_  i havent tried it, but maybe this helps http://www.indiastudychannel.com/resources/97532-Install-g-ipmsg-Ubuntu-Linux-easily.aspx
[11:08] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, Once you have a valid user id and password to enter, it should connect ok. If it doesn't then the share on the Windows PC is most likely not been set up correctly .. you may need to change the permissions on the share to allow read/write access. Need to dash... bye and good luck.
[11:08] <thomas__> any thoughts why keyboard (infrared, DELL) is detected when I load Ubuntu 11.10 from USB stick and when I try to start from HD the keyboard is not working?
[11:09] <mbroeker> thomas__, do you have an usb keyboard?
[11:10] <thomas__> no cable (wireless)
[11:10] <thomas__> mbroeker: wireless (DELL)
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> bal_  there's also xipmsg
[11:13] <winnie666> hey! i am looking for a cli program that will allow me to partition and mkfs drives without being prompted for any information, ie prog device linux-raid start 1 end 8
[11:13] <mbroeker> thomas__, and the receiver? built-in or connected via usb?
[11:14] <thomas__> mbroeker: built-in
[11:15] <randomnewb> Is there a way to extract zip files with foreign filenames without  getting garbled filenames?
[11:15] <thomas__> mbroeker: some posts mention to set noacpi pci=noacpi acpi=off, but I cant edit the bootloder after the installation to set these params
[11:16] <mbroeker> thomas__, anyway: if the wireless keyboard gets connected when you boot from "a legacy usb device", the wireless connector seems to be initialized! so i suggest that you have to activate usb legacy support in bios to get ridd ofthis prob
[11:17] <bal_> MonkeyDust:  i down loaded but i can't go to the dirctory  how can i open the folder with cmd . i is in download folder ?
[11:17] <thomas__> mbroeker: good point - Ill try now
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> bal_  look in /usr/bin
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> bal_  forget that, i thought you meant installed
[11:19] <bal_> nop  just downloded
[11:20] <ugc> hello, erveryone.
[11:20] <bal_> MonkeyDust:  i don't know the cmd in ubuntu just learning
[11:20] <ugc> I had installed android in KVM, but it can't connect to the network.
[11:20] <ugc> what is wrong with it?
[11:21] <thomas__> mbroeker: legacy support was enabled already
[11:21] <wonderman> hmm
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> bal_  you can install it from the repos and type f2 to run it
[11:22] <airtonix> swweeeeetttt! 11.10 remove padevchoosers! so awesome... now i can't send audio to other machines....
[11:22] <wonderman> why has the latest updates yet again broke unity settings? ie, i cannot choose the bar to not hide itself from CCSM now
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> bal_  alt-f2*
[11:22] <wonderman> unity bar autohide is the worse thing about ubuntu
[11:23] <samuel> hi thanks for the help guys, it was just a simple case of removing fglrx and reinstalling it, everything is fine now
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> !yay | samuel
[11:24] <ugc> hi, I want to backup my machine, in case one day my machine crushed, which dir should I backup?
[11:24] <wonderman> $HOME
[11:24] <ugc> and / ?
[11:24] <wonderman> and  / ?
[11:24] <wonderman> is you wanna backup the whole machine go ahead
[11:24] <wonderman> if*
[11:24] <ugc> wonderman: after crushed, I want to restore my machine.
[11:24] <ssta>  /etc is probably a good idea
[11:25] <ugc> HOME is not enogh.
[11:25] <wonderman> its not?
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> clonezilla comes to my mind
[11:25] <wonderman> installing packages doesnt take long, and they are all in repos
[11:25] <wonderman> rsync it then
[11:25] <ugc> wonderman: how about your kernel images?
[11:25] <wonderman> MonkeyDust: any idea why updates broke unity again ?
[11:25] <ugc> if you lose this files, they you can't restore you machine
[11:25] <bal_> MonkeyDust: it open applications  what next ?
[11:25] <wonderman> i cant stop the bar from hiding itself
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> wonderman  i don't like/use unity, so can't say
[11:26] <wonderman> its ok when the bar doesnt hide itself, im pulling my hair out, i refused to update for 1 month, because this happened last time
[11:26] <wonderman> so i went for it this morning, now CCSM doesnt work again
[11:26] <wonderman> i think i had to reinstall catalyst to fix it last time, do people not test these things?
[11:26] <ugc> wonderman: it is possible that the configuration files are changed?
[11:26] <ssta> ugc: for most purposes, backing up user data and configuration data is enough.  Easiest way to recover is then clean-reinstall and restore user data
[11:26] <wonderman> starting to really wind me up
[11:27] <wonderman> ssta i agree
[11:27] <bal_> ok thank you
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> bal_  alt-f2 and type the program name
[11:27] <kapz> any idea to minimize evolution to a gnome-shell notification icon? thanks :)
[11:27] <wonderman> where are devs +1 ?
[11:27] <ugc> ssta: you mean, when your computer crushed, you will install a new system and then restore the HOME dir
[11:27] <Whiskey> Anyone good on XRDP here?
[11:27] <ssta> ugc: yes
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> kapz  gnome2 had alltray, trie that (i havent)
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> try*
[11:28] <ugc> ssta: how about your configration files you ever done ?
[11:28] <ankitb> signal strength bash script for wireless device
[11:28] <ssta> ugc: that's why I suggest backing up /etc as well
[11:28] <ugc> I mean you installed many services, like ssh and ftp etc?
[11:28] <kapz> MonkeyDust, alltray minimizes everyting(?) i guess
[11:28] <wonderman> ugc, it depends how you operate, i dont store any of my data on my machine that isnt backed up externally
[11:29] <ssta> ugc: also keeping a copy of the output of dpkg --get-selections
[11:29] <wonderman> if my machine crashed now, i wouldnt care
[11:29] <ugc> ssta: simple install will need you reconfigure and reinstall this service?
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> kapz  alltray minimizes the window that you click on
[11:29] <wonderman> also most of the time a 'crash' you can fix
[11:29] <wonderman> if your hard drive packs up, just reinstall on a new one
[11:29] <wonderman> whats the point of backing up /, there isnt imho
[11:30] <kapz> MonkeyDust, All or any window I click on? or just evolution/specified apps? Thanks
[11:30] <ugc> yeah, you guys right, I just want to keep all my work environment.
[11:30] <Whiskey> No one use xRDP here
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> kapz  any window, just the one you click on -- mind: it was for gnome2
[11:30] <ugc> Whiskey: I use it
[11:30] <ugc> what 's your prob
[11:31] <kapz> nah...something like a deluge tray icon or dropbox icon or skype or frostwire.....pffft
[11:31] <ssta> ugc: if you feel it's better for YOU then by all means backup the entire system.  I don't tend to do it that way is all
[11:31] <Whiskey> I wanne now how to login to the console
[11:31] <Whiskey> and not get a new session started
[11:32] <Whiskey> i try to goolge lake crazy but i don´t find how to do it
[11:32] <ugc> well, I would listen to you, after all backup all the system take me a long period of time.
[11:32] <Whiskey> What you mean
[11:32] <wonderman> ugc just backup what you want
[11:33] <ugc> Whiskey: you installed xdrp on you machine?
[11:33] <ugc> and you want to remote control?
[11:33] <ugc> am i right/
[11:33] <mbroeker> Whiskey, CTRL-ALT-F2 switches to console, ALT-F7 or ALT-F8 switches back to gui
[11:33] <ugc> wonderman: ok, then home will be best.
[11:33] <theadmin> mbroeker: I don't think that ttys would work over xrdp...
[11:33] <ssta> ugc: I have a cronjob that rsyncs $HOME to the fileserver every 8 hours....plus I have /etc in subversion.
[11:33] <wonderman> like i said :)
[11:33] <mbroeker> theadmin, good point :)
[11:33] <Whiskey> ugc
[11:33] <jasonmsp> hey all.  Every so often things plugged into my USB ports dissapear.  When I do an lsusb they don't show up either.  Is there a way to reset the USB ports to find what it plugged into them?
[11:34] <ugc> and wonderman: i always use tar unity to backup?
[11:34] <Whiskey> i wanne have it to login to console by defult
[11:34] <viktor133> how can you monitor the temp of your processor (or any hardware)?
[11:34] <bahamas> hello. I'm trying to connect to a jabber sever with the default client that comes with ubuntu 11.40, but I get a network error. can anyone tell me how I can debug this to see where the error comes from?
[11:34] <wonderman> ugc i just copy to an external the files i need, if you are that worried about your system, do what ssta said and setup a cron to do it for you
[11:34] <Whiskey> mbroeker, none of those work ether
[11:34] <ugc> Whiskey: you want to your machine boot into consol by default?
[11:35] <n2diy> I have a PDF file I want to give to some club members, is there a quick way to scan it for viruses before I do so?
[11:35] <Whiskey> nooo
[11:35] <Whiskey> the xRDP
[11:35] <ssta> n2diy: viruses in a pdf file?  Umm...do such exist?
[11:35] <theadmin> Whiskey: y u no use ssh :/
[11:35] <ugc> wonderman: i wonder weather tar can achieve increse backup?
[11:35] <theadmin> ssta: Definetly, PDF are almost as dangerous for Windows as exe are
[11:36] <mbroeker> bahamas, do you use your own jabber server?
[11:36] <Whiskey> in Windows you do /console or /admin to login to console
[11:36] <n2diy> ssta, yes, I just googled it.
[11:36] <theadmin> n2diy: Try this place: www.virustotal.com
[11:36] <Whiskey> but i don´t find anyway to do that whit xRDP
[11:36] <ugc> Whiskey: well, xRDP is used for X window, means remote x login?
[11:36] <bahamas> mbroeker: the company I work for
[11:36] <n2diy> theadmin, thanks.
[11:36] <ssta> seriously?  pdf are largely just encapsulated postscript.  The mind boggles...
[11:36] <Whiskey> ugc
[11:36] <Whiskey> what do you mean
[11:36] <ugc> Whiskey: your problem seems to be impossible.
[11:36] <Whiskey> so its not possible then?
[11:37] <Whiskey> Also
[11:37] <mbroeker> bahamas, we too: we use pidgin and the jabber client must use the IP of the server as the connection server
[11:37] <Whiskey> the program i have in crontab
[11:37] <ugc> Whiskey: I mean xRDP is used for remote desktop control, not consol.
[11:37] <Whiskey> are not them supose to start
[11:37] <raven> hi
[11:37] <Whiskey> and i don´t have to login to make them start
[11:37] <Whiskey> right
[11:37] <FloodBot1> Whiskey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:37] <ugc> Whiskey: but you can login desktop first, and then start a gnome terminal.
[11:38] <raven> xubuntu 11.10 - cpu-freq-plugin does not take any effect to frequency - any solution?
[11:38] <Whiskey> ugc im not sure i undertsand what you mean
[11:38] <bahamas> mbroeker: I'm using empathy though.
[11:39] <bahamas> and I don't understand why the domain name wouldn't work. the client should be able to do a DNS lookup
[11:39] <raven> xubuntu 11.10 - cpu-freq-plugin does not take any effect to frequency - any solution?
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> !repeat | raven
[11:40] <viktor133> is there a command or anything to monitor the temp of your system?
[11:41] <tumppu_> lm-sensors and then command sensors
[11:42] <ugc> hi, is there anyone who installed android in ubuntu?
[11:43] <ugc> in virtual machine.
[11:43] <ugc> mine can't connect to network
[11:43] <ugc> i am using androidx86
[11:43] <ugc> or any hint would be perfect.
[11:44] <oCean> ugc: /join #android
[11:44] <ikonia> ugc: saying "won't work" isn't helpful, you need to explain the problem if you want help.
[11:45] <ugc> oCean: thanks
[11:45] <raven> xubuntu 11.10 - cpu-freq-plugin does not take any effect to frequency - any solution?
[11:45] <ugc> ikonia: i installed androidx86 in kvm, and in virtual android system, i can't connect to the network
[11:46] <ugc> and i enter the ethnet config, it won't let me do that/
[11:46] <ikonia> ugc: ok, so you need to vierfy your networking and bridging setup at the host/guest level, then move up to the OS level.
[11:49] <raven> xubuntu 11.10 - cpu-freq-plugin does not take any effect to frequency - any solution?
[11:50] <ugc> ikonia: i checked that out, it is NAT ed
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> ugc  change NAT to bridged
[11:51] <korukor> raven: #xubuntu or #xfce
[11:51] <ugc> MonkeyDust: ok, let me try.
[11:53] <katesmith> /join #outhouse
[11:54] <katesmith> oh sorry
[11:54] <katesmith> that is a great chat room i go to anyways
[11:54] <ugc> MonkeyDust: i am afraid, afraid
[11:54] <ugc> i used to do it once more, and then the network unavailable
[11:57] <Guinness2702> Network/Routing question.  I want to route all packets whose destination is port X to something other than the default route, but leave others going that way.  How can I do that?
[11:58] <rootkit> ubuntu is kinda bloated
[11:59] <rymate1234> rootkit: how is it bloated?
[11:59] <rootkit> bloatware
[12:00] <Guinness2702> Please do not feed the troll
[12:00] <Guinness2702> okay, he left :D
[12:03] <Ampelbein> Guinness2702: iptables can do that (and more)
[12:03] <Guinness2702> Ampelbein, Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how to do it :)
[12:04] <Guinness2702> I just found something on google about prerouting
[12:04] <Guinness2702> found a page which says "iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j MARK --set-mark 1"
[12:04] <Guinness2702> but wtf is "MARK"
[12:05] <oCean> Guinness2702: please don't use acronyms such as wtf here, thanks
[12:05] <sabgenton> whats better to install PrecisePangolin alpha 2 or the daily builds?
[12:05] <oCean> sabgenton: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (still alpha). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[12:06] <sabgenton> cheers
[12:06] <mariano> ciao
[12:06] <mariano> !list
[12:07] <veggu> hi guys , i have an issue that I am unable to set the desktop visual effects to extra as it says that there is no graphic drivers and lspci tells me that there is a intel graphics driver
[12:07] <sabgenton> also if I want to send bug reports on unstable wifi drivers am I better making it for PrecisePangolin or oneiric
[12:08] <veggu> please help
[12:08] <sabgenton> what is more helpfull to devs?
[12:08] <X30Ncore> hi, I need to know a good tool for finding the airtime balance on a GSM 3G mobile device
[12:09] <Ampelbein> Guinness2702: mark is used in routes, but you don't need them: "iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp --dport <<<PORT>>> -j ROUTE --oif <<<INTERFACE>>>"
[12:09] <AlanBell> veggu: what version of Ubuntu, how old is the computer, what is the exact line from lspci for the vga card?
[12:09] <Guinness2702> Ampelbein, cool, thanks
[12:10] <veggu> AlanBell:  i am using ubuntu 10.10 , i have a hp dv6 laptop and the lspci o/p is as follows  :
[12:10] <veggu> AlanBell: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge DRAM Controller (rev 09) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[12:10] <alexx188> hello
[12:10] <n3uron_> veggu, pastebin ~~
[12:11] <alexx188> does anybody connect the pluto-p board to emc2?
[12:11] <Guinness2702> Ampelbein, I'm gonna guess that won't rewrite the source address - What I really need is for packets to come back the other way too
[12:11] <veggu> n3uron_:  pastebin  ~~ 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge DRAM Controller (rev 09) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Cougar Point HECI Controller #1 (rev 04) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Cougar Point USB
[12:12] <AlanBell> n3uron_: one line doesn't need to be pastebinned!
[12:12] <AlanBell> veggu: that seems a reasonably new laptop and sensible chipset, it should just work
[12:13] <alexx188> does anybody see me?
[12:13] <n3uron_> Im running in smaller scale AlanBell, sorry if it was 1 line.
[12:13] <AlanBell> !ask | alexx188
[12:13] <veggu> AlanBell: even i taught the same but nothing is happening..
[12:14] <veggu> AlanBell:  is there anyway by which i can actually install the drivers manually ?
[12:15] <AlanBell> veggu: I think it might be that it is too new for 10.10, the sandy bridge chipset was rather new then, perhaps try a live cd of 11.10 (or even 12.04 if you want to test the one in development)
[12:16] <veggu> AlanBell: ok
[12:18] <hoijui> i am using ubuntu (XFCE) on netbook with the typically small screen (1024x600), and evolution is just unusable here
[12:18] <AlanBell> veggu: there are some PPAs with backports of newer drivers, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/58376/how-do-i-install-the-intel-hd-3000-video-driver for reference, looks like it might work best if you have a 32bit install and is a bit experimental
[12:18] <hoijui> why is it the default email client?
[12:18] <hoijui> practically every dialog is too large in height
[12:18] <Ampelbein> Guinness2702: Well, if you want another source address, you'd need a "--continue" at the end of the prerouting and a new POSTROUTING with '-A POSTROUTING -p tcp -m tcp --dport <<<PORT>>> -j SNAT --to <<<NEWIPADDRESS>>>
[12:18] <Guinness2702> Ampelbein, I get "iptables v1.4.4: unknown option `--oif'"
[12:18] <hoijui> and there are no scrollbars
[12:18] <Ampelbein> Guinness2702: Oh, right, I think Ubuntu doesn't have that patch. Let me check.
[12:19] <hoijui> it is only soso usable using Alt+dragging
[12:19] <AlanBell> hoijui: that is a longstanding bug, bug 8629 and various re-reports of it
[12:19] <AlanBell> hoijui: the default email client is now thunderbird
[12:19] <hoijui> ahh k :D nice, and thanks
[12:19] <Lint> hoijui, that's gtk for you
[12:20] <bazhang> Lint, no it's not. it's a bug
[12:20] <hoijui> will use thunderbird too then
[12:20] <AlanBell> hoijui: it is actually probably quite easy to fix, I looked into it ages and ages ago, there is a wizard class somewhere that has a fixed height and it throws everything out and doesn't rescale and grow scrollbars.
[12:21] <hoijui> mmm ok :-)
[12:21] <hoijui> they lazy?
[12:21] <AlanBell> no, they just have bigger screens than you :)
[12:21] <hoijui> i mean.. netbook users are.. many, these days
[12:22] <AlanBell> anyone can fix it, if motivated to do so
[12:22] <hoijui> an email client just cant afford to ignore that
[12:22] <hoijui> yeah.. ;-)
[12:23] <hoijui> if it would be java, i'd do it
[12:23] <AlanBell> there are a bunch of patches to make it fit, and a lot of the dialogs do now fit, take a screenshot of the one that doesn't and file a bug about it
[12:24] <AlanBell> see comment #32 onwards for my thoughts on the matter in 2009 :)
[12:24] <hoijui> i just updated my ubuntu, and the main config dialog and the add-account dialogs fail
[12:25] <purplefool> does anyone know anything about a engts450 graphics card?  having trouble getting a decent screen resolution
[12:25] <hoijui> so i guess the patches are not yet released
[12:26] <Ben64> purplefool: sounds like a nvidia card, so you should just use the Hardware Drivers dialog to install the nvidia drivers
[12:28] <joker400> hi all of you
[12:29] <AlanBell> hoijui: yeah, years ago, dunno if they have fallen out or some other dialogs have grown too big, but on an actuall 1024x600 screen most of it should fit
[12:30] <pooltable> hi help can i run to torrent programs at the same time ?
[12:30] <bazhang> pooltable, why would you need to
[12:31] <Lint> *eight* years, lol
[12:31] <bazhang> Lint, ?
[12:31] <pooltable> bazhang i running q torrent but some torrent just do not load just keep in checking mode how do i fix it ?
[12:31] <hoijui> AlanBell, ok... strange :/ it does not, here.
[12:32] <hoijui> also even if it would.. htere are no scrollbars where there should be some
[12:32] <hoijui> and hte defautl open larger then what fits on screen, which also never should happen
[12:32] <hoijui> cant make them smaller
[12:32] <hoijui> but i switched to thunderbord now, and it seems to do it right :/
[12:32] <hoijui> aehh :-)
[12:33] <bazhang> pooltable, have you tested any other torrent clients with those same torrents
[12:33] <pooltable> bazhang that what i want to do now
[12:34] <bazhang> !torrent | pooltable here's a list
[12:34] <pooltable> bazhang i am testing ktorrent
[12:34] <koffeehaus> hi, does anyone remember the command line of gconf path to set your real name on the panel instead of username?
[12:35] <koffeehaus> i meant command line OR gconf path
[12:37] <oCean> koffeehaus: system/indicator/me I think? (from memory, as I'm not using gnome)
[12:38] <aptgetter232> Hello. I am trying to install a Canon Pixma MG5150 printer on Ubuntu using the MG5100 series CUPS driver, but when I print Ubuntu tells  me "Rendering Complete", but the printer doesn't output anything. What shall I do? Any help is appreciated. Thanks..
[12:40] <magma> is it possible to reinstall ubuntu via command line?
[12:40] <koffeehaus> oCean : i've just checked it isn't there :(
[12:40] <StevenR> magma: you can do a CLI install
[12:41] <koffeehaus> oCean omgubuntu did an article on it, but they seem out atm
[12:41] <magma> ~what is CLI?
[12:41] <StevenR> magma: what do you want to achieve? (building a headless server) ? CLI is Command Line Interface
[12:41] <oCean> koffeehaus: I found this one: http://blog.mypapit.net/2011/05/remove-username-memenu-ubuntu-natty-1104.html
[12:41] <trijntje> Hi all, I want to enable middle button emulation on oneiric. How can I enable this permanently?
[12:44] <koffeehaus> oCean : no waaay!! i don't have that path on my gconf-editor. weird
[12:44] <monsterripper> Hi there, I'm doing a lot of Documentation with Druif for Lubuntu (Worxin' off these http:/goo.gl/v5IMJ )
[12:45] <aptgetter232> Hello. I am trying to install a Canon Pixma MG5150 printer on Ubuntu using the MG5100 series CUPS driver, but when I print Ubuntu tells  me "Rendering Complete", but the printer doesn't output anything. What shall I do? Any help is appreciated. Thanks..
[12:45] <koffeehaus> oCean - maybe it;s coz i'm using maverick, not natty
[12:45] <monsterripper> Hi there, I'm doing a lot of Documentation with Druif for Lubuntu (Worxin' off these http://goo.gl/v5IMJ )
[12:45] <bazhang> monsterripper, whats the question
[12:45] <koffeehaus> oCean - no wait i also have elementary OS which also a 10.10 and it works there. ah never mind i'll leave as it is then
[12:45] <oCean> koffeehaus: heh, ok
[12:46] <koffeehaus> oCean thnx anyways
[12:46] <monsterripper> bazhang: No Qu.. Just spreading the gispell ...
[12:47] <NyLes> hi?
[12:47] <NyLes> can someone help ? :(
[12:47] <bazhang> NyLes, with what
[12:48] <NyLes> i really want to use Ubuntu, but the problem is my video card has bugs with the latest driver
[12:48] <NyLes> my video card is fine with Puppy Linux, how will i get the drivers there? is it possible?
[12:50] <NyLes> please help me bazhang, I really want to use Ubuntu..
[12:50] <oCean> monsterripper: this is not the place to do so
[12:50] <bazhang> NyLes, whats the graphics card
[12:50] <pooltable> bazhang ktorresnt is working just fine with one of the torrent thanks
[12:51] <neil1> anyone overcame problems with widescreen laptop and radeon graphics card on a toshiba laptop?
[12:51] <NyLes> bazhang, NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 its an old video card..
[12:52] <katesmith> /join ##aspiefriends
[12:52] <neil1> it looks like it is going to load, but i get a blank screen
[12:52] <bazhang> NyLes,  and you tried the additional drivers?
[12:52] <katesmith> i will stick with windows
[12:53] <NyLes> additional drivers? im not aware of sorry..
[12:53] <oCean> katesmith: fine, no need to share here
[12:53] <katesmith> i will keep my viruses , i tried to learn ubuntu but i have failed at it badly
[12:54] <oCean> katesmith: chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.
[12:54] <katesmith> okay
[12:54] <bazhang> NyLes, check in system settings
[12:56] <purplefool> Ben64, lol...that is what i have been trying for over a day now...have reinstalled system but no joy.  found solution in xorg.conf and trying that now
[12:57] <randomnewb> Is there a way to extract zip files with foreign file names without the file names being garbled?
[12:58] <cloudgeek> problem while installing and configuring mrtg
[13:00] <neil1> Anyone know of good support sites for laptop ubuntu issues?
[13:00] <danileigh79> Neil what6's the issue?
[13:01] <NyLes> bazhang, ok sir I will check on it.. thanks for your time..
[13:02] <danileigh79> neil1: What is the issue?
[13:02] <neil1> Dani, trying to boot from livecd and screen goes.  I can get to purple loading screen with "nomodeset" option ticked but after the welcome chime screen is blank again
[13:03] <danileigh79> neil1: tried a clean install on USB?
[13:03] <silvio> !lista
[13:03] <neil1> Yup, also tried going from USB with same result.  Thinking driver issue?  Also, laptop is widescreen.
[13:04] <danileigh79> neil1: what was original os on lappy?
[13:04] <neil1> Windows 7
[13:05] <EroxOne> hi
[13:05] <danileigh79> neil1: what driver/grpahics card you got?
[13:05] <NyLes> bazhang, how will I get there? If even from the live cd, my video card is not working?
[13:06] <NyLes> it's just blank
[13:06] <neil1> Dani, Its a Radeon card I think.  Processor is AMD dual core graphics.  Make sense?
[13:07] <danileigh79> Neil, sounds like driver not supported... may need to reinstall Win, then do side by side Ubuntu install
[13:07] <NyLes> neil1, i think we have the same problem but mine has something to do with the drivers, i hope danileigh79 can help me too :(
[13:08] <neil1> So it's most likely a driver issue?  Would using Windows to update drivers as a first step be sensible?  I don't have a backup disk for Windows 7 so would hope not to have to reinstall it
[13:09]  * Lint wonders why ubuntu doesn't defaults to VGA modes in that case
[13:09] <danileigh79> neil1: meditate on this I must, return shortly I will
[13:09] <danileigh79> lol
[13:09] <NyLes> neil1, thanks for the idea of nomodeset, its just boots perfectly but still my video card is not working..
[13:09] <danileigh79> I'm a geek
[13:10] <NyLes> bazhang, still there?
[13:10] <neil1> NyLes - frustrating isn't it!?  But maybe forcing a VGA mode might help...
[13:12] <mgolisch> neil1: did you try selecting another mode from the cds boot menu?
[13:13] <neil1> mgolisch - how would I do that?  I've read somewhere there is a safe mode bu it isn't clear to me how to select it
[13:13] <NyLes> neil1, yeah its realy frustrating, forcing a VGA mode? how is it done? will it be just fine? nomodeset results with a resolution of 640 x ***  i think..
[13:14] <neil1> NYLes - if you hit f6 and type in VGA=778 at the end of the line I got to a helpful screen listing out all available screen res
[13:15] <mgolisch> neil1: selecting anything there doenst make it work?
[13:16] <neil1> Mgolisch, when I hit f4 I get choice of modes: normal, use driver update disc or oem install.  Not sure the last two are really what I'm after but let me know your thoughts
[13:17] <danileigh79_2> neil1: try this link   http://askubuntu.com/questions/79416/black-screen-after-installing-ubuntu-11-10-amd-64-altenate-radeon-graphics-card
[13:17] <NyLes> neil1, I see, so if I choose there a higher resolution, it will fit?
[13:17] <neil1> I tried that, it didn't work for me... but I would give it a go anyway
[13:17] <intok> any recommendations on an NES emulator that supports Game Genie and has remappable controls? Already tried GFCE Ultra and Mendnafen, both have a terrible UI...
[13:18] <UrB> anyone here with fully functional bluetooth on ubuntu 11.10 (polling to see if it's even possible :D)
[13:18] <mgolisch> UrB: what do you mean by fully functional?
[13:18] <UrB> I banged my head with that long enough to update to 12.04 in hope it would be fixed there, but now I just have new wall to bang head against :)
[13:19] <UrB> mgolisch: can pair, can send files both ways, can stream audio
[13:19] <UrB> I can't do any of those
[13:19] <UrB> just started to eliminate possible causes, but this is tedious as hell
[13:20] <mgolisch> i only have a mice here, i can pair with it and it works after that
[13:20] <NyLes> can someone help me too? bazhang seems AFK :(
[13:20] <mgolisch> neil1: no meant that vga option, like teling it to use a different resolution
[13:20] <danileigh79> NyLes: try the link I sent to neil1
[13:20] <mgolisch> neil1: but its probably a problem with x11 , if your screen gets blank it probably does something wrong talking to the card when x11 starts
[13:21] <UrB> I guess there is no shorcut to this one - I must learn to understand the hcidump output :)
[13:21] <NyLes> danileigh79, mine is different, I have an old video card that has bugs with latest drivers..
[13:21] <danileigh79> NyLes: What vcard?
[13:22] <NyLes> danileigh79, it works perfectly under Puppy Linux.. NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[13:22] <chid> is there anyway to bind the hotkey for the ctrl+pg up , pg up (while control is still pressed) combination?
[13:22] <n2diy> how do you square a number in gnumeric?
[13:22] <chid> usually with the second part (when control is still pressed it sends just a pg up rather than ctrl+pg up hotkey)
[13:23] <chid> n2diy: either ** or ^ or pow
[13:23] <n2diy> chid, thanks, what's pow?
[13:23] <NyLes> danileigh79 - now I can try Live CD because of the nomodeset.. without it, its just a black screen..
[13:23] <chid> power(x,y) = x^y
[13:24] <chid> Also, I'm wondering how I could bind a hotkey for switching a window to another monitor
[13:24] <NyLes> danileigh79 - bazhang told me to try additional drivers under system but it says no proprietary drivers are in use..
[13:24] <danileigh79> NyLes: Are you trying this in a clean install of 11.10?
[13:24] <mgolisch> the card is probably too old to be supported by the nvidia drivers included in ubuntu
[13:25] <danileigh79> NyLes: the card is too old
[13:25] <mgolisch> geforce 2 mx400 that must be almost 10 years old or so :)
[13:25] <n2diy> chid, ok, ^ worked.
[13:25] <danileigh79> mgolisch: older...
[13:25] <yeats> NyLes: have you tried using 10.04?  That would be the oldest release still in support (and it's a good one IMHO)
[13:25] <BiscuitBurp> Don't dis da geforce 2 man
[13:26] <chid> that's good n2diy
[13:26] <NyLes> danileigh79, mgolisch - so there's no way I can get this to work? yeah the card is too old I am aware of it..
[13:26] <mgolisch> NyLes: install an older version of ubuntu or try to get it working using the nv driver
[13:27] <NyLes> yeats, I'm using 10.10 right now, i'll try your suggestion, I hope it works..
[13:27] <yeats> NyLes: I had a similar dilemma recently with an older ATI card - upgrading the card was the only solution
[13:27] <NyLes> mgolisch how would I do that?
[13:27] <danileigh79> NyLes: Install 10.04, once in 10.04. try upgrading the driver, then try upgrading to 10.10, then 11.04, if the issue occurs again, it simply means your card is not supported in 11.10
[13:27] <NyLes> yeats - oh :( but I can't just  buy a latest card because my monitor have different pins,,
[13:27] <NyLes> its from Sony
[13:28] <mgolisch> NyLes: different pins?
[13:28] <danileigh79> Sorry if I don't make a lot of sense right now, still n my first cup of coffee
[13:29] <danileigh79> mgolisch: Sony uses proprietary connectors on some of their older monitors
[13:29] <BiscuitBurp> NyLes: What sony are you using?  Model
[13:29] <NyLes> danileigh79 ok ill try that but now I'm using 10.10 and its already not supported :(
[13:29] <chid> is there a hotkey for switching a window to another monitor?
[13:30] <danileigh79> NyLes: then may have to roll back even further to 10.04
[13:30] <NyLes> mgolisch its not like the usual ones..
[13:30] <yeats> NyLes: 10.10 is about to go out of support in April - 10.04 will be supported until next April
[13:30] <yeats> just FYI
[13:30] <NyLes> BiscuitBurp SONY PCV-LX55/BP
[13:30] <CharminTheMoose> How can I remove plymouth from my initrd totally?
[13:31] <yeats> so what may feel like a step backwards buys you a year (if it works) ;-)
[13:31] <Ben64> aren't there old versions of nvidia drivers
[13:31] <NyLes> yeats thanks for the info, I will now download it.
[13:31] <Ben64> nvidia-96 - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library
[13:31] <danileigh79> Ben64: Yes, but support for them doesn't always occur in new releases of Ubuntu
[13:32] <NyLes> danileigh79 can I just use the terminal to download and install the older driver? o
[13:33] <mgolisch> NyLes: the nvidia-96 should support the mx400
[13:33] <NyLes> mgolisch can I do it even on the latest Ubuntu?
[13:34] <danileigh79> NyLes: you got me, I've never tried to rollback a graphics driver, considering my laptop has current graohics technology
[13:34] <mgolisch> NyLes: 10.10 still has it, not idea about newer versions
[13:34] <Ben64> looks like my 12.04 still has it too
[13:35] <gogo_> hi can I set top left corner to have 0,0 coordinates in inkscape? I am designing a game in Ubuntu and cant find a way to do this :(
[13:36] <mgolisch> NyLes: if the driver installation thing doesnt detect it try installing the driver manualy using apt/synaptic etc
[13:38] <intok> any recommendations on an NES emulator that supports Game Genie and has remappable controls? Already tried GFCE Ultra and Mendnafen, both have a terrible UI...
[13:39] <danileigh79> intok, this is an ubuntu support channel, google NES emulator for linux for a list of avaialblbe emulators
[13:39] <oiyou> hi, trying to ping my ubuntu from windows, on my lan, and it works for like 5min and then doesnt for 5min and goes through this loop of on and off. I have checked, when i cant, both machine still have connection. any ideias where the prob is?
[13:40] <NyLes> mgolisch, i think it does detect the driver the problem is the driver is latest.. my video card even in Windows has problems with latest drivers.. the video card only works with windows XP no service pack..
[13:40] <randomnewb> How do I properly extract zip files with foriegn character encoding?
[13:40] <mgolisch> can you select an older version in the driver thing?
[13:40] <NyLes> mgolisch I will download first 10.04 as the support is extended till next year
[13:41] <NyLes> mgolisch what do you mean?
[13:42] <mgolisch> i can select between different versions of the nvidia driver in that driver thing
[13:42] <intok> danileigh79 it's still semi ubuntu related, maybe a repo maintainer is reading and will swap the crap emulators that are currently in the repos for something that is more usable
[13:42] <NyLes> mgolisch I thought what you're pertaining to is when booting lol.. what is that driver thing?
[13:43] <yeats> NyLes: mgolisch: "driver thing" = "Additional Drivers" aka jockey-gtk
[13:43] <danileigh79> intok, go to zophar.net look for emulators for unix/linux on right... now, stfu about emulatord
[13:43] <bazhang> danileigh79, never say that here.
[13:44] <mgolisch> theres a cmdline version too that you could probably use from ssh in your installed ubuntu
[13:44] <NyLes> yeats thanks for that lol.. mgolisch I can only boot when nomodeset is on.. when I tried Additional Drivers it says "no Proprietary driver is in use"
[13:45] <danileigh79> intok: I'm sorry for losing my temper, I use FCEUX
[13:46] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/33655/best-nes-emulator intok
[13:46] <mgolisch> NyLes: it probably fails to detect the card then if it doenst allow you to select a driver there
[13:46] <bazhang> danileigh79, and it's perfectly on topic here to ask about apps
[13:46] <mgolisch> you can just install it using apt and change your xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver
[13:46] <danileigh79> bazhang: I've been kicked for asking about cross platform apps
[13:46] <oiyou> hi, trying to ping my ubuntu from windows, on my lan, and it works for like 5min and then doesnt for 5min and goes through this loop of on and off. I have checked, when i cant, both machine still have connection. any ideias where the prob is?
[13:47] <NyLes> mgolisch I think so.. how would I do that? can i do that even in nomodeset option?
[13:47] <NyLes> mgolisch  i think nomodeset option has something to do why additional driver doesn't detect my card
[13:48] <bloodyskies> does anyone have any experience of booting ubuntu from an SD card but with GRUB installed on the HDD?
[13:48] <mgolisch> using nomodeset can you complete the installation? if yes you would just do that stuff afterwards in your installed ubuntu
[13:49] <bloodyskies> I don't know what nomodeset is?
[13:49] <bloodyskies> at the moment, the installer doesn't see my SD card, just the HDD
[13:49] <iceroot> bloodyskies: see #lubuntu
[13:50] <NyLes> mgolisch - yeah I can complete that installation with that, so after then, I will install my driver using apt and change the xorg.conf? will I be able to do that in nomodeset?
[13:50] <bloodyskies>  thanks
[13:51] <mgolisch> NyLes: if that allows you to see something on your screen yes
[13:51] <danileigh79> I have a Mad Catz 4716 wired XBox controller, but can't find a driver for linux online, any suggestions?
[13:51] <NyLes> mgolisch yeah thats the only way I can access my desktop, I will try it thanks.. but I will use 10.04 instead :)  Thanks again..
[13:51] <mgolisch> NyLes: yeah do that
[13:54] <NyLes> mgolisch are you always online here?
[13:54] <aptgetter232> Hello. I am trying to install a Canon Pixma MG5150 printer on Ubuntu using the MG5100 series CUPS driver, but when I print Ubuntu tells  me "Rendering Complete", but the printer doesn't output anything. What shall I do? Any help is appreciated. Thanks..
[13:54] <mgolisch> NyLes: yeah
[13:54] <ylmfos_> who
[13:55] <NyLes> mgolisch I'll be back after I download and install 10.04, I hope you help me ^^ thanks again, live chat is always the best..
[13:55] <ylmfos_> I am a fresh on Linux
[13:56] <neil1> I think I'm going to try the alternate text bases installer and see if I can then sort the video from there.
[13:56] <personZ> OHAI!!
[14:01] <bc81> aptgetter232: try using a few different drivers if you have the time..i have a pixma MP470, but it will only have basic printing functionality when using the MP150 driver.  weird huh?  i'll not be buying any more canon products
[14:02] <bc81> aptgetter232: that, or set up a windows XP virtualbox and install the windows drivers into it
[14:03] <aptgetter232> And, one more question. When I want to share the printer, how can I use the proprietary drivers to communicate with the LPD server?
[14:09] <mjk5> Hello to all can someone help with embedded sound card(realtek) on Ubuntu 11.10 x64 where i dont have any sound?
[14:09] <mgolisch> mjk5: does it detect the card?
[14:10] <oiyou> hi, trying to ping my ubuntu from windows, on my lan, and it works for like 5min and then doesnt for 5min and goes through this loop of on and off. I have checked, when i cant, both machine still have connection. any ideias where the prob is?
[14:10] <mjk5> mgolish: no no detection at all
[14:10] <mgolisch> mjk5: aplay -l does not list it?
[14:10] <mjk5> aplay -l returns device_list:240: no soundcards found...
[14:10] <mgolisch> mjk5: what soundcard is that?
[14:11] <mjk5> is a realtek on board
[14:11] <shenmue> greetings. question about ffmpeg. when using the -map video and audio are encoded in the order in which listed?
[14:11] <mjk5> i used to have aproblem because i couldnt have 5.1 sound and in a tutorial i followd a guide to update alsa drivers from realtek and after that i have no sound card
[14:12] <CharminTheMoose> How can I remove plymouth/framebuffer scripts + associated libs from my initrd totally?
[14:13] <bc81> oiyou: what is the command you're using to ping
[14:14] <oiyou> bc81: ping -t 192.168.1.35
[14:14] <oiyou> thats a local static ip to my ubuntu machine
[14:16] <OpTiC_LoRd> Hey everybody
[14:16] <bc81> oiyou: ok, i'm not too good with networking, but what if you try ping -c 1 192.168.1.35 instead..is that the same thing?
[14:17] <oiyou> -t just pings until i press ctrl-c
[14:17] <oiyou> I suppose its the same
[14:18] <Optic__Nerves> ping oiyou
[14:18] <bc81> oiyou: maybe your router is interperting that as a ping flood or so?
[14:18] <Wabs> oiyou: what is the response you get when it stops work.  Destination not reachable, time out???
[14:18] <oiyou> destination unreachable
[14:19] <oiyou> destination host unreachable
[14:19] <Wabs> oiyou have you tried the same thing but to your router?
[14:19] <danileigh79> Does anyone know how I can get an MadCatz 4716 XBox controller to work on Ubuntu 11.10?
[14:19] <Wabs> or switch
[14:19] <bc81> oiyou: so you want to constantly ping the machine?  then just use ping 1.2.etc
[14:19] <bc81> oops, ping 192.etc
[14:19] <oiyou> yeah ping works there on both machines
[14:19] <oiyou> to the router
[14:20] <oiyou> Im abit of a noob, my stupid guess is the router is jumping from ip4 to ip6 to ip4, is this possible?
[14:21] <oiyou> ive turn of ip6 on both machines network cards
[14:21] <oiyou> but havent done anything on the router accept give internal static ips to both machinjes
[14:22] <bc81> oiyou: may i ask what is the purpose of constantly pinging a machine on your LAN?
[14:23] <oiyou> lol, i got vnc, vpn and ssh on ubuntu set up, works some times and then doesnt, not very reliable, tried pinging and thought it would be easier to ask the question in the form of ping error
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> oiyou  is it wireless?
[14:24] <oiyou> yep
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> same issue with cable?
[14:25] <oiyou> havent tried
[14:25] <Moseley> Anyone able to get screen rotation working?
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> oiyou  ethernet is more stable than wifi
[14:26] <rakesh> ,,,,,,,,,,,
[14:26] <Moseley> Using 11.10 on an ECOMANI w/ Intel Atom & Nvidia ION
[14:27] <oiyou> cant really go for that option, as i said, both machines always have access to router throughout this process, just not each other
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> oiyou  sounds like a wifi issue to me
[14:28] <oiyou> ;)
[14:30] <oiyou> just one last thing, you dont think its anything to do with forwarding ports on the router?
[14:30] <Wabs> I would not think so oiyou that should be for out comingin
[14:30] <OerHeks> oiyou, local you need no portforwarding.
[14:31] <oiyou> ok
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> o/ OerHeks
[14:31] <OerHeks> o/ MonkeyDust
[14:32] <oiyou> i will try getting a wire connection, but got the feeling its like this stupid option on the router like power save mode or something lool thanks anyways guys
[14:36] <demifuror> hey guys, im really struggling with cairo dock, sometimes when i click the logout button, the dock just disappears and nothing happens. any ideas what copuld be causing this?
[14:38] <CharminTheMoose> How can I remove plymouth/framebuffer scripts + associated libs and video modules from my initrd totally?
[14:40] <freenon> In a console window, is there a key combination to delete the last argument instead of just the last character (BACKSPACE)?
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> freenon  there is, moment
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/keyboard-shortcuts-for-bash-command-shell-for-ubuntu-debian-suse-redhat-linux-etc/
[14:43] <freenon> MonkeyDust: Exactly what I needed, and even more! Many thanks :D
[14:44] <mjk5> Is anybody can help me with no sound?
[14:45]  * royale1233 drinks cofee
[14:46] <freenon> mjk5: ask your question and if someone can help, you will probably get an answer.
[14:48] <freenon> MonkeyDust: Alt + F does not work, it opens the File menu instead. Does it work for you?
[14:49] <mjk5> i have a problem with my onboard sound card (Realtek) i have no sound on ubuntu 11.10 x64
[14:50] <freenon> mjk5: is this a new problem? Did it work before?
[14:50] <zgr> why ubuntu is using such an ancient version of coreutils?
[14:50] <pksadiq> freenon: on tty the last word can be deleted using C-w
[14:50] <greenglue> I have a question about GRUB bootloader on Ubuntu server 11.10
[14:50] <freenon> pksadiq: thanks, I already found that in the link MonkeyDust provided :)
[14:50] <greenglue> Where is the "grub.conf" file to add OpenVZ's kernel to?
[14:51] <freenon> greenglue: /boot/grub ?
[14:52] <greenglue> freenon, but where can I edit the GRUB kernel selection screen's items? I am trying to add OpenVZ to the kernel...
[14:52] <damo22> zgr: it seems its more focused on eye candy than basic tools
[14:52] <rly> Is there some way to optimize my file system such that it boots Ubuntu in a _reasonable_ amount of time?
[14:52] <freenon> greenglue: sorry, no idea. there's #grub also, if you don't get an answer here.
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> rly  preload
[14:53] <rly> It currently takes over 3 minutes to boot.
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> !preload
[14:53] <freenon> MonkeyDust: that won't help with boot time, to the contrary.
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> it helps for me
[14:53] <rly> It is a midrange IntelCore2Duo but it has a normal (laptop) harddisk.
[14:53] <freenon> rly: check your autostart programs System>Preferences>Startup APplications
[14:54] <freenon> check if there's anything in there you do not need.
[14:54] <kyoushuu> How could I download files in IRC using Empathy? I tried in XChat, but it has a bug.
[14:54] <mjk5> freenon i had teribble sound and not 5.1 soround before so i followed a guide in order to activate the 5.1 sound and after that no sound at all
[14:54] <zgr> damo22: maybe it somehow related to debian
[14:55] <damo22> zgr: they do backport security patches to older versions afaik
[14:56] <mjk5> freenon: i had teribble sound and not 5.1 soround before so i followed a guide in order to activate the 5.1 sound and after that no sound at all
[14:56] <aaa_> when i try to open a zip file with hebrew files inside, instead of the the hebrew letters, i see boxes with the 0x codes.how can i fix it?
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> aaa_  install the appropriate font type ?
[14:57] <freenon> aaa_: Install a font that can display Hebrew characters.
[14:57] <aaa_> how?
[14:57] <aaa_> in the fiels manager i can see hebrew just fine
[14:57] <bsilwal> Hi, I am not able to type # into my Ubuntu VM Terminal. I am using Virtual Box with Mac as Host. Can anyone please help me.
[14:57] <aaa_> file manager*
[14:57] <wiza> anyone got imon ffdc working on precise? can't get any output to come to anywhere, ir-keytable or syslog.
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> aaa_  "ttf-sil-ezra - smart Unicode font for Hebrew"
[14:59] <Lint> aaa_, what are first two digits in that boxes?
[14:59] <aaa_> 00
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> rly  http://www.unixmen.com/speed-up-your-linux-application-loading-time-with-preload/
[15:00] <oussama> hi
[15:00] <marcelC> Hello!
[15:00] <OerHeks> wiza, precise 12.04 is not out yet, help & questions please in #Ubuntu+1
[15:00] <aaa_> MonkeyDust, what is it? the terminal doesn't know what to do with it
[15:00] <Lint> aaa_, that is a bug in archiver
[15:00] <wiza> OerHeks: k, sorry
[15:00] <OerHeks> wiza np
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> aaa_  once it's installed, it is activated automatically, you don't have to do a thing
[15:01] <marcelC> can I ask here smtg wich is not related to linux / ubuntu?
[15:01] <Lint> the names are in hebrew codepage, but archiver expect utf-8
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> aaa_  sorry, wrong nick
[15:02] <marcelC> I am coeurious if someone can suggest me a freehost service / websit
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> my answer was about preload
[15:02] <aaa_> using "File Roller" 3.2.1, is there anything else you can recommend?
[15:02] <theadmin> marcelC: This is offtopic here, go to #ubuntu-offtopic to chat about anything but support
[15:02] <marcelC> thx theadmin
[15:03] <kyoushuu> Is it possible to download files in IRC using Empathy?
[15:04] <sungsam> hi all!
[15:04] <oussama> i using ubuntu 10.04 with gnome and kde too, but when using kde , and  i didn't touch the keyboard or the mouse the screen became black , and it's refuse to comeback, so i shutdown the computer
[15:04] <oussama> is there any solution
[15:04] <oussama> ?
[15:07] <sungsam> guys, I'm getting crazy. It's not the first time this has happened to me, but this time I decided to check. I got an ext2_check_page error with bad entry in a directory. It's hard to find the unequivocal answer, but I found a trace, that I could have been hacked? Is it possible? How can I tell?
[15:08] <aaa_> i'm using "File Roller" 3.2.1, is there anything else that can open zip files with utf-8 files names?
[15:08] <royale1243> hi
[15:08] <rly> MonkeyDust: I think you have no idea what you are talking about.
[15:09] <rly> sungsam: given a skilled enough hacker, it is impossible to tell.
[15:09] <kyoushuu> Anyone who could answer my question, or is there any IRC channel for ubuntu developers so that I could seek help for fixing the bug myself?
[15:09] <iceroot> aaa_: unzip from the shell
[15:09] <iceroot> kyoushuu: imo #ubuntu-devel
[15:09] <iceroot> !alis | kyoushuu
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> rly  i use preload to boot and load faster, i also add vm.swappiness=10 to /etc/sysctl.conf -- works for me
[15:09] <BooRynnS> hi
[15:09] <kyoushuu> thanks, I'll try asking there...
[15:10] <rly> MonkeyDust: the problem is that it needs tons of seeks on the harddisk.
[15:10] <OerHeks> sungsam sounds like a failure on your usb-stick ?
[15:10] <rly> MonkeyDust: you are solving a completely different problem.
[15:10] <BooRynnS> hum please ? how to use shokwave player on ubuntu ?
[15:10] <rly> MonkeyDust: what I need is an integration between the file system and the OS.
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> rly  you said "Is there some way to optimize my file system such that it boots Ubuntu in a _reasonable_ amount of time?"
[15:11] <sungsam> rly in syslog I got this mentioned error and than a lot of disconnecting and connecting between my wifi card and router(I don't know if it's normal or not, I don't check syslog that often).
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> ok, now i see
[15:11] <rly> MonkeyDust: yes, and 3 minutes is not reasonable.
[15:11] <rly> MonkeyDust: a much slower computer booted in 30 seconds years ago.
[15:11] <aaa_> iceroot, i rarely use the terminal. isn't the any front-end gui for it?
[15:11] <sungsam> OerHeks yes, I'm using usb stick? How could you tell?
[15:12] <iceroot> aaa_: i dont know, sorry
[15:12] <rly> MonkeyDust: it is just an extreme modularization of the system which makes all this stuff extremely slow.
[15:12] <theadmin> rly: I say -- disable services you don't need. NetworkManager takes ages to start on my machine for instance.
[15:12] <ubukou> hey folks.. is there anyway there something wrong the client i am using for MSN? it seems that i had my pass stolen Twice in a month ? any suggestions?
[15:12] <iceroot> ubukou: using ssl?
[15:12] <rly> I think it would start in 10 seconds, if everything that I use would be in one sequential file.
[15:12] <OerHeks> sungsam, ext2 is mostly used for usb devices, i suggest try fsck
[15:13] <rly> It is the same thing with the 'dot' files on Linux.
[15:13] <ubukou> iceroot, i am using emesene and Chromium...
[15:13] <ikonia> OerHeks: what? ext2 is mostly used for usb devices?
[15:13] <ikonia> OerHeks: that's nonsense, ext3 and 4 is just as well used,
[15:13] <ubukou> iceroot, is there any setting i am missing?
[15:13] <iceroot> ubukou: if it is not using ssl you know the reason why your password is stolen
[15:13] <iceroot> ubukou: luckily i am not using msn so i dont know if it is using ssl
[15:14] <rly> There should be special dot files support in the FS too, because it is just a waste too seek for those all the time.
[15:14] <ubukou> iceroot, i ll check the settings..
[15:14] <rly> to*
[15:14] <sungsam> OerHeks this' what's bowered me http://whitestar.linuxbox.org/pipermail/exploits/2006-November/000006.html
[15:14] <rly> People don't do these things, because they think that it is not beautiful.
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> rly  if it is so rarely done, you'll have to forgive my mistake
[15:17] <rly> MonkeyDust: it is not about forgiving.
[15:17] <mneptok> rly: this is a support channel, not a channel to rant about personal tastes. thanks.
[15:17] <rly> mneptok: who are you?
[15:17] <rly> mneptok: you sound like you don't know anything either.
[15:17] <mneptok> rly: someone reminding you of the channel rules and policies.
[15:17] <iceroot> rly: you have a support question?
[15:18] <rly> mneptok: where do the rules say that pointing out what is clearly wrongly designed is forbidden?
[15:18] <mneptok> !ot
[15:18] <LjL> rly: this channel is about Ubuntu technical support, everything else is offtopic.
[15:18] <mneptok> rly: says it right there
[15:18] <rly> Ok, the technical support question is: Why has it been designed in this broken way?
[15:18] <LjL> rly: that's not a support question. move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:19] <rly> LjL: ok, it takes 3 minutes to boot Ubuntu. What can be done about that?
[15:19] <mneptok> rly: this game is really beginning to bore me. let's move on.
[15:19] <iceroot> rly: debug what is causing it
[15:19] <rly> LjL: that was the original question; I just indicated a possible solution.
[15:19] <ikonia> rly: disable uneeded services, set static IP's instead of using dhcp, etc
[15:19] <ikonia> rly: depends where the bottle neck is
[15:19] <rly> ikonia: I already use a static IP.
[15:19] <iceroot> rly: there are tools for bootcharts and the processes which are running
[15:20] <rly> iceroot: I have already done that.
[15:20] <theadmin> rly: If it's Upstart troubling you, you can probably switch away to runit or systemd
[15:20] <iceroot> rly: and what process is the reason?
[15:20] <rly> iceroot: the reason it is slow is the tons of disk seeks.
[15:20] <rly> iceroot: there is not one cause.
[15:20] <ikonia> rly: that was one suggestion, I need to know more information about where the delay is
[15:20] <ikonia> rly: where is the delay
[15:20] <rly> ikonia: it is _everywhere_.
[15:20] <ikonia> rly: you need to be specific
[15:20] <rly> ikonia: have you ever seen an optimized profile of a program?
[15:20] <iceroot> rly: what is the speed of your hdd? (hdparm will tell you)
[15:21] <ikonia> rly: boot up isn't everywhere, can you expand on the root cause for the delay
[15:21] <iceroot> rly: do some testing with hdparm to get usefull results
[15:21] <iceroot> rly: what ubuntu version? what filesystem? what type of hdd?
[15:22] <rly> ikonia: Ubuntu (11.10) used to boot in about 30 seconds or so.
[15:22] <ikonia> rly: not interested in what is used to do
[15:22] <ikonia> rly: I asked where the bottle neck/root cause was
[15:22] <nishttal2> has anyone been able to make sound work on macbook pro running ubuntu?
[15:22] <rly> ikonia: it seems that all disk seeks are just slower.
[15:22] <iceroot> rly: do some testing with hdparm to get usefull results
[15:22] <iceroot> rly: what ubuntu version? what filesystem? what type of hdd?
[15:22] <ikonia> rly: is this also true post boot ?
[15:22] <rly> iceroot: I already said that, ext3.
[15:22] <ikonia> rly: eg: general usage, the disk seeks are slower?
[15:23] <revel004> dobry
[15:23] <iceroot> rly: and the other questions?
[15:23] <rly> ikonia: that too.
[15:23] <ikonia> rly: ok - so the problem isn't boot up then as you first said
[15:23] <ikonia> rly: the problem is you are experiencing poor IO performance
[15:23] <theadmin> rly: Are you sure your hard drive ain't failing?
[15:23] <iceroot> rly: do some testing with hdparm to get usefull results!!!
[15:23] <rly> theadmin: dmesg doesn't say so.
[15:23] <iceroot> rly: dont let me repost the hdparm-part please
[15:23] <ikonia> rly: dmesg is not "the law"
[15:24] <rly> ikonia: what is?
[15:24] <rly> iceroot: what are acceptable number for a laptop harddisk of 3 years old?
[15:24] <mneptok> rly: if all disks seeks are problematic, ensure your drive isn't failing and backup important files. then try booting to an older kernel to see if a kernel update introduced a new drive controller driver that may be the cause.
[15:24] <rly> numbers*
[15:24] <ikonia> rly: there isn't one thing, especially in linux which can be subjective depending on your hard disk, you'll need to use multiple tools
[15:24] <sungsam> brn
[15:24] <iceroot> rly: 60MByte/s i guess
[15:24] <sungsam> sorry: brb
[15:24] <ikonia> rly: however, I'd fist of all try to get an idea of if it is just seek time, or poor io in general
[15:25] <rly> Which specific hdparm command should I run?
[15:25] <kyoushuu> rly: Did you already tried using the Disk Utility application or similar?
[15:25] <iceroot> rly: hdparm -T /dev/sdX
[15:25] <rly> kyoushuu: I don't remember. I will just get the device and try again.
[15:25] <iceroot> rly: also -t
[15:26] <rly> It basically turned my very useful laptop into a piece of garbage.
[15:26] <iceroot> rly: and you stil did not answer what ubuntu-version
[15:26] <ikonia> rly: focus on the problem and help you are getting rather than your rants
[15:26] <rly> iceroot: I did already say that a long time ago.
[15:26] <rly> ikonia: search for 11.10
[15:26] <theadmin> rly: Do you experience this on other OS's/distros? This is an important part.
[15:26] <iceroot> rly: i dont scroll the whole chat for you
[15:26] <rly> iceroot: search for 11.10.
[15:26] <iceroot> rly: if you dont want my support, no problem
[15:26] <ikonia> rly: search what for 11.10 ?
[15:26] <iceroot> rly: my supported ended here
[15:26] <rly> iceroot: no, you claim that I didn't answer your question, which is false.
[15:27] <ikonia> rly: if you want help, answer questions, people don't always see your answers as you've psent time just ranting
[15:27] <iceroot> rly: you answered my question not to me
[15:27] <ikonia> rly: if you want help, you're going to have to clarify for people who are asking questions.
[15:27] <fil1900> rly: is it me or whatever the guys tell you, you will still just point out your position and do nothing about your problem?
[15:27] <rly> theadmin: I don't think I have it on Windows, which is also installed on it.
[15:27] <iceroot> rly: you said somewhere in the chat (before i asked) 11.10
[15:27] <magma> it is possible to reinstall my ubuntu, from version 9.04 to the latest via SSH?
[15:27] <ikonia> rly: so you are using ubuntu 11.10 32/64bit ?
[15:27] <rly> theadmin: but its FS is much smaller.
[15:27] <rly> theadmin: nor do I almost never use it.
[15:27] <rly> ikonia: 64
[15:27] <ikonia> rly: 11.10 yes/no ?
[15:27] <rly> ikonia: y
[15:27] <iceroot> rly: i asked you 4 questions and also told you to use hdparm
[15:28] <ikonia> rly: yes / no
[15:28] <rly> ikonia: yes
[15:28] <chid> is there a hotkey for switching a window to another monitor?
[15:28] <ikonia> rly: thank you,
[15:28] <rly> iceroot: and which one did I not answer?
[15:28] <ikonia> rly: concentrate on the support you are getting please.
[15:28] <iceroot> rly: as i said, support ended, good luck
[15:28] <rly> iceroot: apparently your trolling didn't.
[15:28] <rly> ikonia: ok
[15:28] <rly> I will get the device now.
[15:37] <Newbie2> hello every one
[15:39] <magma> it is possible to reinstall my ubuntu, from version 9.04 to the latest via SSH?
[15:39] <tensorpudding_> no
[15:39] <tumppu_> i think you can upgrade it via terminal
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> magma  the ssh connection will be lost during installation
[15:40] <magma> thanks
[15:40] <tensorpudding_> you can't upgrade from 9.04 to 11.10 directly, since neither are LTS releases
[15:42] <Croon> tensorpudding_ - then how to go about it?
[15:43] <txdv> a
[15:43] <Newbie2> I am running the latest ubuntu 32bit os, is it possible to move the side bar on the left side of my screen down to the bottom, if so how can I do this please ?
[15:44] <ikonia> Newbie2: I don't believe so at this time
[15:44] <theadmin> ikonia: Doesn't ccsm have some settings for that?
[15:44] <Newbie2> ok thanks
[15:44] <rly> ikonia: cached reads are 1130MB/s.
[15:45] <ikonia> theadmin: I don't know, but it's a common request and the answer is always "it's in development" so I'm assuming not
[15:45] <theadmin> ikonia: Ah, okay
[15:46] <Newbie2> thanks for replies :) cheers
[15:48] <rly> What's the name of the disk utility tool again? Synaptic already takes ages to start.
[15:48] <tumppu_> gparted?
[15:49] <mneptok> rly: hdparm?
[15:49] <robin0800> Newbie2: you can the method is somewhere in webupd8 afraid you will have to search because I can't
[15:49] <bazhang> robin0800, he quit already
[15:50] <tensorpudding_> Croon, you reinstall
[15:50] <c31r2g> hi bazhang :)
[15:50] <tensorpudding_> Croon, or you could upgrade to 9.10, then to 10.04, then do an LTS upgrade in april when 12.04 comes out
[15:52] <s0enke> hey
[15:52] <magicJ> I am running 11.10 from a Live USB stick which has the persistent option set - when I plug in my USB printer dmesg tells me that it sees the "new full speed" device, then "usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed ..." - how do I attach a printer ?
[15:53] <s0enke> what could be a reason if only CPU0 is coming online again after resume from suspend-to-ram?
[15:53] <Croon> tensorpudding, can i pm you ?
[15:53] <rly> ikonia: performance numbers: minimal read speed 22.4MB/s, maximum: 68.9, AVG 53.1, average access time 18.5ms.
[15:53] <tensorpudding> no, what is it
[15:54] <tensorpudding> have you asked a question in the channel yet?
[15:54] <rly> ikonia: from the benchmark is also goes from 70MB/s at the start of the benchmark to 30MB/s near the end.
[15:55] <rly> I don't see any reason for it going slower over time.
[15:55] <rly> SMART status is OK too.
[15:55] <Croon> well i run ubuntu 9.1 and need to upgrade but i can't figure out how to
[15:55] <auronandace> !eol | Croon
[15:56] <tensorpudding> Croon, upgrade to 10.04
[15:56] <helo> should i be able to use unetbootin to put a ubuntu .iso onto a usb hard drive (not just a thumb drive) to do an install from?
[15:56] <theadmin> Croon: The only real way is to upgrade to 10.04, then to 10.10, then to 11.04 and then to 11.10. Or to 10.04, and then wait till Precise is out and update to that.
[15:56] <tensorpudding> Croon, open the update manager and see where it says there is a new version available, and follow the steps
[15:56] <_Marcus> How do I reset a user's home directory?
[15:56] <sungsam> ok, guys, so I asked you about my ext2 error, because I was freaking out, that I've been hacked, giving this example: http://whitestar.linuxbox.org/pipermail/exploits/2006-November/000006.html
[15:56] <tensorpudding> that will get you onto 10.04, which is still supported
[15:57] <theadmin> helo: Likely won't work, unetbootin is picky about devices. But you can just dd the image onto the device
[15:57] <Croon> tensorpudding you see there is no GUI installed ..
[15:57] <tensorpudding> oh
[15:57] <helo> theadmin: dd an .iso onto a hard drive works?
[15:57] <tensorpudding> there's a tool, forget the name...
[15:57] <rly> theadmin: have you seen my numbers?
[15:57] <theadmin> Croon: sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:57] <sungsam> but if as a ubuntu user, we were hacked, how can we tell? What'd be the first clue?
[15:57] <theadmin> rly: Yeah, sorry, no ideas
[15:57] <tensorpudding> do-release-upgrade
[15:57] <mneptok> Croon: is the system 100% up-to-date with 9.10 right now?
[15:57] <theadmin> helo: Well, yeah, something like this: dd if=ubuntu-oneiric.iso of=/dev/sdb
[15:57] <rly> theadmin: boot time is 2.5 minutes and actually logging in to a session is an additional 40 seconds or so.
[15:57] <Croon> theadmin Command not found
[15:58] <tensorpudding> first do an aptitude update, then aptitude upgrade, then do-release-upgrade, all with sudo
[15:58] <helo> i swapped motherboards and now jackd is broken, so i'm going to try reinstalling :/
[15:58] <tensorpudding> i figure you're using ubuntu server if you don't have a gui
[15:58] <theadmin> Croon: You need some package like "update-manager-core" or something like that
[15:58] <rly> helo: the notion of 'reinstalling' is a Windows concept.
[15:58] <mneptok> rly: previous kernel? pick through some logs?
[15:58] <tensorpudding> 9.10 was a while ago, i never used that version of ubuntu
[15:58] <Croon> mneptok should be i belive
[15:58] <rly> mneptok: you do know that you are not saying anything, right?
[15:59] <rly> mneptok: your level of helpfulness could come from Eliza.
[15:59] <helo> rly: i've spent at least 4 hours trying to get jackd working again... it always works after an initial install
[15:59] <nk_red> hi all.. does anyone here know a pretty application to download a site (all files as mirroring site )?
[15:59] <helo> which would take maybe an hour
[15:59] <helo> so it's totally worth it time-wise to do it windows-style :)
[15:59] <mneptok> Croon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo do-release upgrade
[15:59] <mneptok> errr
[15:59] <mneptok> Croon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:59] <theadmin> mneptok: Point of "upgrade" followed by "dist-upgrade" is what, exactly? *scratches head*... dist-upgrade will do the same things upgrade does anyway
[16:00] <helo> particularly because i have no upper-bound guarantee on how much longer it might take for me to fix it myself
[16:00] <sacarlson> nk_red: sounds like wget
[16:00] <fil1900> nk_red: check the wget command
[16:00] <theadmin> mneptok: Except in a smarter way, but
[16:00] <mneptok> theadmin: no, it won't.
[16:00] <theadmin> mneptok: iirc dist-upgrade = upgrade + install new deps, right?
[16:00] <fil1900> nk_red: it also has a gui, which i dont remember now, but its easy to find
[16:00] <helo> i've tried purging and reinstalling all of alsa and jackd, searching for references to my old sound card, googling for similar errors (there are tons, but none in my situation and no fixes that worked)
[16:00] <Croon> it fails to get files :(
[16:01] <nk_red> I've tried a wget... does anyone get to know a better one?
[16:01] <theadmin> Croon: You need to change your sources.list to point to the old-releases mirrors
[16:01] <mneptok> theadmin: man apt-get
[16:01] <nk_red> it is even gwget that is a front-end..
[16:02] <nk_red> didn't work as expected..
[16:02] <sacarlson> fil1900:  nk_red  I see gwget for the gui version
[16:02]  * Croon is lost ..
[16:02] <mgolisch> nk_red: why not?
[16:02] <theadmin> Croon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[16:03] <mneptok> Croon: can you pastebin the output you got, as well as the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[16:03] <fil1900> nk_red: not as expected means??
[16:03] <Croon> mneptok uhm ... i am a noob :D
[16:03] <nk_red> It means, I use all options and couldn't download the entirely site
[16:03] <nk_red> just a single file...
[16:03] <mneptok> !pastebin > Croon
[16:04] <mgolisch> nk_red: the frontend probably doenst support the mirror mode
[16:04] <mgolisch> nk_red: use cmdline
[16:04] <nk_red> ok. txs
[16:04] <theadmin> mgolisch, nk_red: If you're looking for website mirroring, httrack (or webhttrack, if you want a GUI) is probably a better option altogether
[16:04] <mneptok> nk_red: wget can retrieve entire sites, but you have to be specific about what you want to recurse through
[16:05] <sacarlson> nk_red: is that with gwget or wget?  I've even gone recursive with wget with level control
[16:05] <macer1> witam :D mam pytanko
[16:05] <nk_red> no.. it's with gwget
[16:05] <macer1> jeśli mam odpalonego screena, w nim jest attachowany inny screen to jak zdetachować ten drugi żeby tego głównego nie o.O :D?
[16:06] <bazhang> macer1, english here, #ubuntu-pl for Polish
[16:06] <macer1> ah sorry bad channel :X
[16:06] <macer1> sorry sorry sorry
[16:06] <macer1> I was thinking I was writing on #ubuntu-pl :X
[16:06] <bazhang> !screen
[16:07] <bazhang> macer1, about screen see above
[16:07] <nk_red> thanks theadmin
[16:07] <Croon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/848734/ i think
[16:07] <macer1> If I have screen attached inside the screen how to detach the 2nd one without detaching the main one o.O :D?
[16:08] <BonerKing> Question to all you nerds out there
[16:09] <BonerKing> can you read CPU temp for Intel Atom processor in Ubuntu?
[16:09] <mneptok> Croon: you're connected to this machine remotely?
[16:09] <ikonia> BonerKing: depends on if the sensors are supported models
[16:09] <bazhang> !sensors > BonerKing
[16:09] <Croon> mneptok yes sir
[16:09] <nirvanowiec> hi all
[16:09] <BonerKing> ubottu, are you actually a bot?
[16:10] <BonerKing> well you gave me the answer I was looking for
[16:10] <BonerKing> that's pretty cool
[16:10] <fil1900> BonerKing: lol
[16:10] <theadmin> BonerKing: She gives answers based on factoids
[16:10] <haylo> hes a pretty smart bot
[16:10] <theadmin> !brain > BonerKing
[16:10] <mneptok> Croon: OK, and there are no firewalls or such in place between this machine and the net?
[16:10] <nirvanowiec> witam
[16:10] <wunnle> hello
[16:11] <wunnle> how can i set Monday as start of the week on Ubuntu 11.10 calendar?
[16:11] <Croon> mneptok no clue
[16:11] <theadmin> wunnle: That's probably locale-dependent actually
[16:11] <BonerKing> ubottu, how can I cofigure Ubuntu to make me fresh coffee every time I get up
[16:11] <Croon> mneptok there shouldnt be
[16:12] <bsilwal> Deos applying recursive chmod will apply same permissions to the new folders created?
[16:12] <theadmin> wunnle: Try changing the language to something other than "English (US)" (say, "English (UK)" or "English (Canada)"). I'm not so sure though.
[16:12] <mneptok> Croon: is this a remote host you pay for? or a community box? or what?
[16:12] <wunnle> theadmin, actually i googled it but i don't know anything about locale (file?)
[16:12] <mneptok> Croon: because the errors you see are about connecting via HTTP to the Ubuntu mirrors.
[16:12] <theadmin> mneptok: (s)he's trying to upgrade from Karmic (EOL)
[16:13] <sacarlson> BonerKing: you need some X10 modules and  a usb or other unit to drive them from ubuntu
[16:13] <Croon> mnekits mine
[16:13] <theadmin> mneptok: (if that's of any help)
[16:13] <Croon> argh
[16:13] <bsilwal> How do i set permission to a directory, so that new folders created by webserver will have same permission?
[16:13] <Croon> mneptok its mine
[16:13] <sacarlson> BonerKing: they will also turn your lights on and off at times you desire
[16:14] <sungsam> I know, you are busy, but I'll repeat myself:
[16:14] <sungsam> ok, guys, so I asked you about my ext2 error, because I was freaking out, that I've been hacked, giving this example: http://whitestar.linuxbox.org/pipermail/exploits/2006-November/000006.html
[16:14] <wunnle> theadmin, now i've changed system language to english (not us) but calendar is still the same.
[16:14] <sungsam> but if as a ubuntu user, we were hacked, how can we tell? What'd be the first clue?
[16:14] <mneptok> Croon: hold on ...
[16:14] <theadmin> wunnle: Try logging out and back in after doing so
[16:15] <wunnle> theadmin, ok, let me try.
[16:15] <sacarlson> sungsam: I"ve seen attempted hacks in my logs of ssh activity
[16:16] <sungsam> How could you tell, it was an attempted hack?
[16:16] <mneptok> Croon: OK, Karmic Koala reached EOL in April 2011.
[16:16] <sacarlson> sungsam: after attacks were easy to see when my web index page changed and again looked at the apache2 logs to see where they had gone
[16:16] <mneptok> Croon: the repos to update it are gone.
[16:16] <mneptok> Croon: that's why you get errors about not being able to find them
[16:16] <Croon> mneptok ah okay ... then what are my options?
[16:17] <sacarlson> sungsam: attempted I see many failed logins
[16:17] <korukor> bsilwal: umask
[16:17] <sungsam> sacarlson, sounds logic. I was more curious about a private system.
[16:17] <wunnle> theadmin, thanks, it worked.
[16:17] <bsilwal> cheers
[16:17] <theadmin> wunnle: Yay! :) Actually, that was a totally random guess lol
[16:17] <CharminTheMoose> How necessary are the /lib/modules/<version>/kernel/drivers/char/agp and /lib/modules/<version>/kernel/drivers/gpu for displaying boot splash screens? Can't vesa/vga16fb be used instead?
[16:17] <sungsam> sacarlson or anybody, how secure is UFW?
[16:17] <sacarlson> sungsam: mine is private but it's very dependent one what ports and programs you have active
[16:18] <erase> hi, installed Google Earth 6.2 on 11.10. It crashes right after the splash screen. help!
[16:18] <mneptok> Croon: is the system broken in some way? does it mostly work for now?
[16:18] <wunnle> theadmin, well do you have any other lucky guesses about google calendar sync?
[16:18] <sungsam> sacarlson, when I nmap my LAN it always states all 1000 ports are closed.
[16:18] <wunnle> :
[16:18] <sacarlson> sungsam:  netstat -pant will tell what is listening
[16:19] <Croon> mneit works cept for one part, not importen for the system i think
[16:19] <Croon> grrr
[16:19] <reber> hi there. How to avoid weird chars like this : myfile_�.odt ?
[16:19] <sacarlson> sungsam: and to be open is normaly something you must add unless pnp is active on your router then I guess anything is posible
[16:19] <mneptok> Croon: the next release in April is an LTS release. limp along, and plan for a reinstall while you wait for 12.04 to drop.
[16:19] <Croon> mneptok works cept for one part, not importen for the system i think
[16:19] <mneptok> Croon: that's what i'd do, being lazy.
[16:20] <Croon> okay
[16:20] <Croon> like me :D
[16:20] <Croon> but then
[16:20] <mneptok> Croon: you have 2 months to prep for a reinstall.
[16:21] <Croon> i cold do it now, nothing lost if done now
[16:21] <sacarlson> sungsam: and by the way there are about 65000 different ports as I recall
[16:21] <mneptok> Croon: LTS releases are supported for 5 years on servers. you'll have until this time in 2017 to get updates.
[16:21] <cloudgeek> how deploy django
[16:21] <cloudgeek> with ubuntu server
[16:22] <cloudgeek> now right i just forword my 192.168.1.2:8000 to my static ip
[16:22] <sungsam> holly crap, I have and established connection with some weired Bulgarian ip!!
[16:22] <mneptok> Croon: and why go through installing an LTS that's still 2 months from release? might be buggy, updates every dau will kill you.
[16:22] <mneptok> *day
[16:22] <sungsam> in whois it says role LIR ADMIN. What deos it mean?
[16:22] <lenage> a
[16:22] <sungsam> how can I disconnect it?
[16:23] <danik> hello guys Ive some questions that are not so technical i just cant really find answear of my questions can i pm one of u to ask u ?
[16:23] <theadmin> wunnle: Nope sorry :D
[16:23] <sacarlson> sungsam: you sure it isn't part of your irc connections?  it should also state what app is it connected to
[16:24] <Silverlion> danik, just ask away here in the chan
[16:24] <CharminTheMoose> How necessary are the /lib/modules/<version>/kernel/drivers/char/agp and /lib/modules/<version>/kernel/drivers/gpu for displaying boot splash screens? Can't vesa/vga16fb be used instead?
[16:24] <sungsam> phew, yes it is, sorry for the panic, I couldn't see it the first time, cause it rolled the line....
[16:25] <danik> ok i want to use iptable ( with that you can disable some ports and ips as far as i learned ) but when u can disable one ip to not connect to ur server that u know that ip is a attacker i mean when its late so what does iptable really do ?
[16:26] <milen8204> hello all, how can I make to start bash script when Lubuntu starts ?
[16:26] <korukor> danik: use ufw
[16:27] <erase> hi, installed Google Earth 6.2 on 11.10. It crashes right after the splash screen. help!
[16:27] <sungsam> danik, it'd be useless, because an attacker, can change ip as easy as his MAC address. Yes, use UFW.
[16:27] <Silverlion> danik there is a private message with a link for you waiting ;)
[16:27] <BlouBlou> danik: If you want a gui for ufw, install gufw
[16:27] <sacarlson> danik: it does a drop or whatever you ask of the iptables action filter to do.  if you want more details try #iptables
[16:28] <___MAX> Hi, i try to ssh my ubuntu 1010 server but the connection is refused on port22, i remove apparmor  but no luck
[16:29] <sacarlson> ___MAX: is you router set to forwart port 22
[16:29] <danik> sacarlson if i have a linux which just provide apache for a website do i still need iptables ? i mean should i close other ports ?
[16:29] <___MAX> sacalson: vm image
[16:29] <danik> sungsam thx dude
[16:30] <___MAX> sacarlson: it's VM
[16:30] <uni4dfx> Why didn't anyone tell me that installing Linux without a swap partition is an extremely bad idea? :P
[16:30] <sacarlson> danik: only time you need iptables filters is if you want some in and others out.  if all out just close the listiner app
[16:30] <rumpe1> uni4dfx, depends. i never use swap and have no problem with it.
[16:31] <___MAX> sacarlson: any other suggestion !
[16:31] <goodtime> hahaha i know someone who somehow uses google maps to remotely crack into other peoples machines
[16:31] <sacarlson> ___MAX: is it on a local network or does it remote www?
[16:31] <bazhang> !ot | goodtime
[16:31] <goodtime> ok
[16:31] <sacarlson> ___MAX: if vm is it setup as nat or bridged?
[16:32] <___MAX> sacarlson : it's vmware workstation image on windows 7 laptop
[16:32] <___MAX> sacarlson: iam using NAT
[16:32] <sacarlson> ___MAX: if it's nat then the router of the nat must be setup to forward to that created address
[16:33] <___MAX> scarlson : you VM image right
[16:33] <sacarlson> ___MAX: who me?  no I'm a virtual box guy
[16:33] <___MAX> sacarlson : :)
[16:34] <sacarlson> ___MAX: but all nets are the same
[16:34] <___MAX> sacarlson :  yes , no static ip it's dhcp and it's ping from both side
[16:35] <sacarlson> ___MAX: so you can ping from your client to the wanted destination but you can't ssh?
[16:35] <___MAX> sacarlson : yes
[16:35] <sacarlson> ___MAX: so netstat -pant on destination says what?
[16:37] <sacarlson> ___MAX: I assume since you ask in ubuntu that it is vm running ubuntu
[16:37] <___MAX> ya , and i even disable app armor but still can't ssh
[16:38] <sacarlson> ___MAX: you still fail to answer my question above netstat -pant results.  does port 22 listen?
[16:39] <___MAX> wait  second to uploaded to pastbin
[16:43] <clouder`grr> ___MAX, can you $ssh localhost ?
[16:43] <sacarlson> clouder`grr: yes
[16:43] <sungsam> bye all
[16:44] <zul_> could anybody says me a right java channel to ask java problmes?
[16:44] <bazhang> ##java zul_
[16:45] <___MAX> sacarlson:http://i41.tinypic.com/2ptxz5q.png
[16:45] <sacarlson> ___MAX: http://tinypic.com/images/404.gif
[16:45] <___MAX> clouder`grr: let me try
[16:46] <___MAX> http://i41.tinypic.com/2ptxz5g.png
[16:46] <sacarlson> ___MAX: you can text send it with paistbinit not as big a file
[16:46] <sacarlson> oh it windows
[16:46] <magicJ> if I am running off a memory stick is it not possible to add a printer - running 11.10
[16:47] <bazhang> magicJ, persistent? or live usb
[16:47] <magicJ> bazhang: persistenat
[16:47] <___MAX> clouder'grr: also 127.0.0.1 connection refused on port 22
[16:47] <bazhang> magicJ, then sure you can add a printer
[16:48] <magicJ> bazhang: when I plug in the usb printer whch works on other systems dmesg see it and then shows the error message
[16:48] <sacarlson> ___MAX: oh your going from ubuntu to windows so can ubuntu ping that ?
[16:48] <___MAX> sacarlson:  ping work fine
[16:48] <bazhang> magicJ, what does linuxprinting.org say about the drivers needed for that printer
[16:48] <magicJ> bazhang: message is : "usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed ..."
[16:49] <sacarlson> ___MAX: well you need to do the equivilant on windows to see if it listens on port 22
[16:49] <magicJ> bazhang: the printer that I am using is a "receipt printer" it is on a POS system and it is just a VERY DUMB text only printer
[16:49] <sacarlson> ___MAX: the problem is on that side
[16:50] <sacarlson> ___MAX: if you want the reverse then you need to install ssh on ubuntu
[16:50] <___MAX>  i try ssh also from windows but no success , firewall disabled
[16:50] <___MAX> i have it on win and ubuntu
[16:50] <sacarlson> ___MAX: as seen on your netstat your not running sshd on ubuntu
[16:50] <hax> why does x sometimes change the screen resolution without notice?
[16:50] <prower> hello :> i've been having this same problem since 10.10 (64 bit)... 1) plug in a usb key or hard drive, 2) plug in -another- usb storage device...result: usb subsystem craps out and the filesystems for the attached devices are corrupted...i've seen a bug for it on launchpad, if i can find it i'll reference it, but has anyone else noticed this?
[16:51] <___MAX> ok , it is installed , how can i check
[16:51] <aspirinto> hi, i need help in restoring firmware of my ipad on ubuntu, i tried github iDeviceRestore but it didn't work.
[16:51] <ikonia> aspirinto: it requries itunes
[16:51] <ikonia> aspirinto: you can't update the firmware on apple devices fro linux
[16:51] <ikonia> aspirinto: the other tools are not good enough to use
[16:51] <___MAX> sacarlson:
[16:52] <sacarlson> aspirinto: I've had the same problem and found that linux has no support for ipad firmware install
[16:52] <sacarlson> ___MAX: same method eather ssh in from windows or netstat -pant to verify that ubuntu is now listening on port 22
[16:52] <aspirinto> i installed itunes on ubuntu but it didn't work too
[16:53] <prower> aspirinto: i've never had much luck with apple's ipod/ipad/iphone hardware in linux, they've introduced a lot of artificial restrictions to iOS that have made using the devices in linux a pain at best, and impossible in many cases
[16:53] <ikonia> aspirinto: there is no linux itunes port and using wine is not a good idea to deploy firmware
[16:54] <magicJ> ___MAX: try to ssh to port 22 at the device from itelsef, 127.0.0.1 - that way you will know if there is something litsening and nothing else can be in the way
[16:54] <Lint> prower, it's a conspiracy! tin hats on!
[16:54] <ikonia> Lint: what are you talking about ?
[16:55] <bazhang> Lint thats uncalled for and offtopic. please dont
[16:55] <___MAX> thanks all , i will try to reinstall the ssh again
[16:55] <Lint> ikonia, about this 'artificial restrictions' part, it's very funny to read such things
[16:55] <sacarlson> ___MAX: magicJ  I concure with magic on that one try ssh localhost from ubuntu
[16:55] <ikonia> Lint again, in respect to what ?
[16:55] <bazhang> !ot | Lint
[16:57] <sacarlson> I'm getting bored I need more good questions
[16:57] <thatkid> Hello everybody. Does anyone know if GTK+ 2+, SDL 1.2+, SDL_image, libgl, and/or libglu are pre-packaged with the latest build of ubuntu? For some reason aptitude is no longer a recognized command.
[16:58] <LjL> thatkid: aptitude is no longer included by default, but you can still use "apt-cache search" and "apt-cache policy", and also, "sudo apt-get install aptitude" if you want aptitude again
[16:58] <sahil_> Hi guys...can i have someones kind attention?
[16:58] <thatkid> Thanks LjL
[16:58] <clouder`grr> service --status-all should tell you if ssh is running as well
[16:59] <sahil_> Hi guys...can i have someones kind attention?
[16:59] <ikonia> sahil_: you need to ask a question for someone to offer support
[16:59] <bazhang> sahil_, ask the channel
[16:59] <Myrtti> sacarlson: if you're interested in helping others, you can join #ubuntu-meta to catch questions that nobody has yet tried to answer
[17:00] <sahil_> okey...i just upgradeed to precise a couple of minute ago with update manager...and now the whole desktop is crashing every now and then
[17:01] <ikonia> sahil_: you're running a beta version of software, you're comfortable running/supporting that ?
[17:01] <Myrtti> sahil_: you're looking for #ubuntu+1
[17:01] <smithi08> hello everyone :)
[17:01] <sacarlson> Myrtti: never heard of it but am now listening on it with only 15 others
[17:01] <Silverlion> hi smithi08
[17:01] <nosdielz> 10.10 ^^
[17:01] <selina21> hello
[17:01] <sahil_> ok
[17:01] <selina21> hello
[17:01] <theadmin> Anyone know if vlc 2.0 is going to make it into Oneiric?
[17:01] <Silverlion> selina21 hey, who can we help you?
[17:02] <Trashi> hi. is there someone who installed a mate-desktop on a Kubuntu system? which packages are necessary to run a proper mate? should i install gnome3/gnome-shell or unity first?
[17:02] <ikonia> theadmin: it's in package freeze, so if the package isn't there now, no
[17:02] <selina21> this is my first time with a sussessful connection
[17:02] <selina21> thru pidgin
[17:02] <theadmin> ikonia: I know it's not there right now, I mean sometime in the future?
[17:02] <Silverlion> selina21 that is great!
[17:02] <ikonia> theadmin: no
[17:02] <selina21> finally
[17:02] <mneptok> theadmin: only through backports
[17:02] <ikonia> theadmin: when have you ever known a package to get an upgrade during release
[17:03] <theadmin> ikonia: Oh, I see. Thanks. To you too, mneptok.
[17:03] <ikonia> theadmin: always "next version"
[17:03] <Silverlion> selina21 how can we help you to go a step further?
[17:03] <kingofswords> hi room
[17:04] <selina21> I am a little mix up with xchat and pidgin
[17:04] <kingofswords> my video has gone choppy and thought that maybe it was a ubuntu problem?
[17:04] <selina21> lol
[17:04] <nishttal2> I installed Ubuntu 10.10 on macbook pro 4,1.. i thought sound was not working becoz i coudlnt hear anything but when i connected external speakers and jacked up the volume on those to max, i could hear very faint music. .. i have all volumes to MAX in alsamixer.. what am i doing wrong?
[17:04] <Silverlion> selina21 i do prefer pidgin as i run facebook chat and g+ talk with it too
[17:05] <theadmin> nishttal2: This is only a workaround, but try installing pavucontrol and raising volume above 100%
[17:05] <selina21> true
[17:05] <RamtinA> hello, i can just access my root and i can use my other partision also my USB ,what should i do?
[17:06] <Myrtti> selina21: if you're really going to use IRC extensively, then use XChat. It is specifically done for IRC and it's not as errorprone on it as a result.
[17:06] <Silverlion> RamtinA to understand your question: you are able to access your root AND the others too? if so: what do you want to do?
[17:06] <selina21> thanks for the info
[17:07] <Silverlion> Myrtti you were only a min ahead of me writing the same :(
[17:07] <RamtinA> Silverlion:i could access my other partisions until 30 last minutes but right now there isn't anything
[17:08] <Silverlion> RamtinA which version of *buntu do you run?
[17:08] <sacarlson> theadmin: I see it seems it is available in ppa https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/master-daily
[17:08] <RamtinA> Silverlion:  11.10
[17:08] <nishttal2> theadmin, pavucontrol is not letting me go above 100%.. also even at 100% i am getting a lot of static noise when nothing is playing
[17:08] <theadmin> sacarlson: Ah, great, thanks
[17:08] <elultimotellez> hay algun servidor de algun juego en red paranicaragua o centroamerica?
[17:08] <Silverlion> RamtinA give me a sec
[17:08] <nishttal2> isnt there a fix to this issue?
[17:09] <theadmin> !es | elultimotellez
[17:10] <elultimotellez> gracias
[17:10] <Silverlion> RamtinA those partitions you have "lost" were those windows partitions or ext3?
[17:10] <elultimotellez> join _#ubuntu-es
[17:10] <elultimotellez> join  #ubuntu-es
[17:11] <mneptok> elultimotellez: /join
[17:11] <RamtinA> Silverlion: NTFS, i installed windows right now and it's problem
[17:11] <theadmin> elultimotellez: You're forgetting a slash before the join command: /join #ubuntu-es
[17:11] <sheperson> can anyone help me with Squid and Privoxy (in PM)?
[17:11] <sheperson> please
[17:11] <theadmin> sheperson: You're supposed to ask support questions in the channel so that multiple people can help.
[17:11] <faenil> hi guys...
[17:11] <Silverlion> RamtinA mind if I pm you?
[17:11] <shortjeffrey89> does someone have time for some ubuntu support?
[17:11] <faenil> has anyone had experience in creating a wireless network for an android device?
[17:11] <craynerd> Hello, I`m a noob to ubuntu and I`ve been pleased so far. I`ve just purchased a Addon Wireless usb adapter that comes with a folder saying "linux drivers" and a readme. The readme makes NO sense and I`m not clear how to install it. Anyone give me a hand?
[17:12] <faenil> I tried creating a wireless hotspot with Infrastructure mode, but it's not working
[17:12] <mneptok> !ask | shortjeffrey89
[17:12] <theadmin> craynerd: Can you pastebin the readme?
[17:12] <sacarlson> faenil: my android works find on my ubuntu dhcp network
[17:12] <sacarlson> fine
[17:12] <Geee_> !patience
[17:12] <sheperson> is't possible to use Privoxy and Squid together and encrypt all the data transfered between them?
[17:12] <RamtinA> Silverlion:ok
[17:12] <mneptok> craynerd: forget the CD. just plug in the adpater.
[17:12] <faenil> and how did you create the network sacarlson?
[17:12] <craynerd> theadmin:sure give me a sec
[17:13] <sacarlson> faenil: on wifi?  apt-get install dhcpd
[17:13] <theadmin> craynerd: And yeah, first test it -- are you sure it doesn't work?
[17:13] <shortjeffrey89> Okay, i'm trying to use chatango. its a flash based, chat website. and it usually works fine, but i can't click the allow or deny, to store extra data
[17:13] <RamtinA> Silverlion:  http://www.picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_at_2012-02-19_20_41_33-FuqXsIAf.1329671587.png
[17:13] <mneptok> craynerd: the driver may be in the kernel already. just try using the device.
[17:14] <kyoushuu> nishttal2: Try gnome-alsamixer
[17:14] <mneptok> shortjeffrey89: the Flash plugin is a proprietary piece of software. problems with its functionality are not easily resolved.
[17:14] <faenil> mm :)
[17:14] <shortjeffrey89> any suggestion on a substitute?
[17:14] <finish06> i am so excited for all html5 for the mere purpose of hating flash
[17:15] <mneptok> shortjeffrey89: for Flash websites? no. and really? it's Flash? not a Java thing?
[17:15] <shortjeffrey89> so basically I'm screwed
[17:16] <sacarlson> finish06: you mean youtube.com will sudenly all move to html5 when it's released?  it might take some time I imagin
[17:16] <finish06> sacarlson, they have already started moving to html5 though... right?
[17:16] <Geee_> yes finish06
[17:16] <sacarlson> finish06: I don't know
[17:16] <Geee_> http://youtube.com/html5
[17:16] <Geee_> you can activate the beta
[17:16] <mneptok> sacarlson: YT has pervasive HTML5 now. https://www.youtube.com/html5
[17:16] <craynerd> theadmin: et al! Yea, tried it and it doesn`t work just plugged in. Paste bin of readme : http://pastebin.com/P2rYBqD4
[17:17] <mneptok> craynerd: if the kernel module exists, it may not be loaded. if you don't kow the name of the module, the best course is to boot the machine with the adapter attached.
[17:17] <OerHeks> shortjeffrey89, look at http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager03.html  here you can set and allow storage
[17:18] <goodtime> is there any softwear to make your own GUI/
[17:18] <sheperson> > is't possible to use Privoxy and Squid together and encrypt all the data transfered between them?
[17:18] <theadmin> craynerd: This is apparently source-code. Can you open the "Hardware Drivers" tool and see if it has the driver for the device? It might.
[17:18] <bazhang> OerHeks, he quit
[17:18] <craynerd> OK - I`m using quite a stripped down version of ubuntu I think, because it is linuxcnc that I want, so it is the ubuntu+linuxcnc
[17:18] <daniletti> ps3
[17:18] <OerHeks> my bad, bazhang :(
[17:18] <craynerd> theadmin: ok, I`ll look for "hardware drivers" !!?
[17:19] <theadmin> craynerd: The tool is called "Hardware Drivers" in the older versions, or "Additional Drivers" in the latest releases iirc, just open the dash and type "drivers", you'll see it come up
[17:20] <mneptok> craynerd: the adapter will need to be plugged in while running this tool
[17:20] <guest89213402349> Hello. I'm trying to copy files from an external NTFS formatted drive to my internal ext4 formatted drive but I'm getting this error "Error opening file '[FILE]': File name too long" where [FILE] is my file. The filename + path is 178 characters. This isn't exceeding the ext4 character limit for filenames right? So why do I get this error?
[17:20] <craynerd> when I open hardware driver - downloading packages indexes failed, please check network status....  Click OK and I get  "No Proprietary drivers are in use on this system. Help or Close....enable is greyed out
[17:20] <guest89213402349> Ubuntu 10.10 btw
[17:21] <mneptok> guest89213402349: could be the NTFS for Linux stuff choking.
[17:21] <guest89213402349> other files with less characters have been copied succesfully.
[17:21] <craynerd> mneptok: yes addapter is in.
[17:21] <guest89213402349> mneptok: I don't understand.
[17:22] <craynerd> this Hardware Drivers page is just totally blank, with seemingly no options but to close or hit help.
[17:23] <sacarlson> mneptok: I went to that youtube.com site but failed to find a link to a html5 video it still linked me to flash even after I selected to be in the trial
[17:23] <Silverlion> RamtinA still with me?
[17:23] <RamtinA> Silverlion:  yes
[17:24] <Silverlion> RamtinA https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions << this may help you ... just try to re-mount the windows partitions again
[17:24] <RamtinA> Silverlion: ok thank you
[17:24] <Geee_> sacarlson,  click the "join the HTML5 trial" thing at the bottom of the page
[17:24] <guest89213402349> mneptok: Would you mind explaining your reply to my question?
[17:24] <sacarlson> mneptok: I see html5 only accepts 2 codec so I guess if the streams are not in h.264 or the other then ?
[17:25] <sacarlson> Geee_: I did that as stated
[17:25] <craynerd> theadmin: any thoughts?
[17:25] <Roasted> Question - I'm getting an SSD for Ubuntu soon. Should I avoid using SWAP?
[17:25] <mneptok> guest89213402349: NTFS is a proprietary file system. the drivers for it in Linux have been reversed-engineered. so it may be that NTFS and ext4 support file and path names of that length, but the driver for NTFS has problems reading it.
[17:26] <Geee_> sacarlson, not sure, but you may need to disable flash for youtube to use HTML5 (firefox: tools > add-ons > plugins )
[17:26] <mneptok> Roasted: depends on circumstances.
[17:26] <sacarlson> Geee_:  that's posible
[17:26] <Roasted> mneptok, well, yeah, but in general is swap even needed for the speed sdd's provide?
[17:26] <faenil> sacarlson: I have installed dhcpd :)
[17:26] <sacarlson> faenil: so does it work?
[17:26] <craynerd> I`m not even sure this system is seeing the USB! Is there any way to tell if ubuntu/computer can see the usb adapter?
[17:27] <guest89213402349> mneptok: I see. I copied other files from the same dir on the NTFS formatted external drive to the same dir on the ext4 formatted internal drive succesfully. I'll try to rename the file on the NTFS drive and copy it.
[17:27] <faenil> sacarlson: ehm what should I do apart from installing it? :D
[17:27] <sacarlson> craynerd: lsusb
[17:27] <mneptok> Roasted: certainly. you cannot sleep or hibernate a laptop without it.
[17:27] <Roasted> mneptok, its a desktop, however I use suspend a lot... hmmm.....
[17:28] <DrMrHorse> my swap is only written to when i hibernate or sleep
[17:28] <mneptok> Roasted: any time you power down physical memory, the stuff in there has to go somewhere.
[17:28] <Roasted> mneptok, I was told to not use swap when I installed my file server because the OS is on a flash drive. They said swap would eat up the lifetime of the flash drive.
[17:28] <Roasted> mneptok, I was using the same mentality in regard to the SSD I ordered
[17:28] <thatkid> So what exactly does "./libs/Dwarf_Fortress: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" mean?
[17:29] <mneptok> Roasted: if i did not use power savings measures, and had ample physical RAM for my tasks, i would not impact drive life with swap space.
[17:29] <babau> list
[17:29] <Freeaqingme> Is this the right channel for 12.04? #ubuntu-new redirects to ##unavailable
[17:29] <oCean> Freeaqingme: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (still alpha). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[17:29] <bazhang> Freeaqingme, #ubuntu+1
[17:30] <craynerd> sacarlson: many thanks...it can see my usb adapter at least!
[17:30] <Roasted> mneptok, well my rig is going to have 8gb... in that instance it sounds like swap would only be used during suspend. Is that correct?
[17:30] <Freeaqingme> cool tnx bazhang
[17:30] <mneptok> craynerd: pastebin the output of "lsusb -vv"
[17:30] <mneptok> Roasted: yup
[17:31] <UrB> could anyone verify bluetooth behaviour I am seeing with both 11.10 and 12.04 - if I try to pair my phone with laptop running the said versions of Ubuntu the pin dialog will time-out (apparently triggered by computer side) within 3-4 seconds after clicking "pair & connect" on phone - phones are ZTE Blade and Galaxy S so this could be Android bug too though both worked fine with Ubuntu 11.04
[17:31] <faenil> sacarlson: creating a hotspot from ubuntu didn't work
[17:31] <faenil> neither in ad-hoc nor in infrastructure
[17:31] <finish06> wait... 12.04 is out?
[17:31] <Roasted> finish06, not yet
[17:31] <finish06> or a beta of it?
[17:31] <faenil> I'm using 12.04 alpha 2
[17:31] <Roasted> mneptok, thanks for the input
[17:31] <oCean> finish06: alpha2
[17:31] <bazhang> finish06, in april, so no
[17:31] <mneptok> Roasted: i have a laptop with 8GB RAM. - http://pastebin.com/FPeqtTex
[17:32] <mneptok> Roasted: the swap space i do have is really not used extensively. ;)
[17:32] <craynerd> mneptok: I`m going to struggle! I`ve just done as you asked but with no network, I can`t get to pastebin..
[17:32] <danik> hi guys ive problem with openssh ive changed my port and uncommented the port line in ssh.config but i can still login via port number 22 do u know what ive done wrong ?
[17:32] <guest89213402349> mneptok: I have succesfully copied the file after renaming it to "1.pdf" but I can't rename it to the original filename even though the the filename doesn't exceed 256 bytes (characters).
[17:32] <Roasted> mneptok, what command was that... its slipping my mind...
[17:32] <mneptok> Roasted: free -m
[17:32] <craynerd> mneptok: bear with me, I`ll try and copy to memory stick and move it to this computer.
[17:32] <h00k> faenil: /join #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support
[17:33] <guest89213402349> mneptok: Are there any forbidden characters in ext4?
[17:33] <Roasted> mneptok, http://pastebin.com/Cp57Dkxi
[17:33] <finish06> thanks for the quick replies guys!
[17:33] <mneptok> guest89213402349: wonky. see how many chars you can name it, and file a bug if it's a bug.
[17:33] <Roasted> mneptok, desktop with 4gb currently
[17:33] <Infernal> Hello. If i install a different OS on a seporate drive, does is it still rewrite the MBR?
[17:33] <Roasted> mneptok, 8gb/ssd parts are coming next week
[17:33] <EvilResistance> Infernal it depends on the OS
[17:33] <Roasted> mneptok, I resumed from suspend a few hrs ago. I assume that's why I'm at 52 used?
[17:33] <sacarlson> goodtime: yes you can make your own gui applications with glade in ruby or python or c# or C++ languages  glade is cool
[17:33] <guest89213402349> Can I pm you the filename?
[17:33] <Infernal> EvilResistance: Windows
[17:33] <EvilResistance> Infernal:  if the other OS is windows, it'll make its own boot partition, and set that to boot.
[17:33] <guest89213402349> mneptok: can I pm you the filename?
[17:34] <mneptok> guest89213402349: there are certainly characters you would have to escape to put in a file name.
[17:34] <EvilResistance> Infernal:  it'll add its own boot loader partition, you'll then have to go back in via a livecd and reinstall grub
[17:34] <chris__> french irc please
[17:34] <EvilResistance> Infernal: and possibly change where the partition with the boot flag is
[17:34] <danik> guys ive changed port in ssh config but i can still login via default (22) port, can u pls help me
[17:34] <h00k> !fr | chris__
[17:34] <mneptok> guest89213402349: sure, but that name is so long i'll probably not look at it closely. ;)
[17:34] <Infernal> EvilResistance: Ok i see. Thanks
[17:34] <sacarlson> dankik: you need to restart sshd
[17:35] <danik> sacarlson i did sir
[17:35] <mneptok> Roasted: could well be.
[17:35] <kedarm> Hi! A n00b here. When I try to log in to my Ubuntu box and enter a wrong password, it takes a llllong time to come back. Where should I start looking to diagnose this problem?
[17:35] <EvilResistance> Infernal:  considering i've done that a few times, putting windows alongside linux, i'm semi-adept at it but it can be semi-tricky sometimes
[17:35] <faenil> h00k: don't think there's anything 12.04 specific in creating a wifi hotspot for android device :)
[17:35] <mneptok> Roasted: but 52 is nothing. think about what the read-write has been on that partition. it's nominal.
[17:35] <sacarlson> danik: what file did you change in etc?
[17:35] <Infernal> EvilResistance: Well i looked at this tut http://www.linuxscrew.com/2010/05/06/install-windows-after-ubuntu-lucid-lynx/ it seems it should do the job.
[17:36] <danik> ssh_config
[17:36] <danik> sacarlson ssh_config
[17:36] <kedarm>  It eventually does come back and give me the login window, but it really sits there for a long long time verifying the password ...
[17:36] <Roasted> mneptok, oh I know. I was just throwing it out there since 4gb RAM for what I do on ubuntu is peanuts. Even with my VMs I don't ever go above 1.5 GB, so the 52 thing still caught my eye :P
[17:36] <danik> sacarlson i removed # and space too did i do that wrong ?
[17:36] <sacarlson> danik: wrong file try /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[17:37] <EvilResistance> Infernal:  that should be OK, but i wouldnt trust every tutorial i come across :p
[17:37] <danik> sacarlson i owe u dude thx
[17:37] <craynerd> mneptok: http://pastebin.com/5NEmjv0Y
[17:37] <finish06> dude, i have 6gb and hit the roof of it all the time... :(
[17:37] <Infernal> EvilResistance: therefor i asked :)
[17:37] <finish06> i feel as if ubuntu doesn't do a good job of flushing the ram sometimes after an app has been closed for an extended period.
[17:37] <craynerd> mneptok: the initial lssub is there... the Addon is listed as Realtek..
[17:38] <Ajdare> Bet and Win with us : http://bet-tips.cogia.net/?ref=285
[17:38] <finish06> for example, my vm will close, yet my ram never drops until I restart.
[17:38] <magicJ> shouldn't someone be banning ajdare
[17:39] <oCean> magicJ: he's gone
[17:39] <chris__> salut a tous
[17:39] <oCean> !fr | chris__
[17:39] <mneptok> craynerd: that's a Realtek 8176 chipset you are using.
[17:39] <craynerd> it is branded as Addon
[17:40] <sacarlson> finish06: try sudo echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches  ; I've had to use that with virtualbox to recover mem
[17:41] <RamtinA> Silverlion: i did it don't work.and i test live CD but i couldn't see that partision there too :O
[17:41] <mneptok> craynerd: but it's Realtek, as you see. have you tried booting the machine with the adapter attached?
[17:41] <craynerd> mneptok - it is definately that, as I`ve pulled it out and done the lsusb and it vanishes
[17:41] <sacarlson> finish06: I have a script that does a few other things
[17:41] <finish06> sacarlson, interesting!!!  That is what i use, virtualbox
[17:41] <craynerd> yes..nothing.
[17:41] <craynerd> mneptok - could it be because this ubuntu is stripped down (I believe it is stripped down but it might not be!!)
[17:41] <spaceneedle> Whatever Ubuntu is doing--keep it up! I can't recall a time when Ubuntu was this fast or responsive. I'm using the lts version.
[17:41] <finish06> what does your script all do?
[17:42] <zykotick9> kedarm: (i'd like to note, your issue seems to be quite common) it seems your user profile (or something in ~) is causing your DE to crash or fail to start for some reason.  From the login window do you have the choice of another DE/WM?  If so I'd try that first to get back into a GUI.  To install / work right now, you can use the virtual terminals CTRL+ALT+F1 (to F6) then F7 to F10 is Xorg (the gui again, use F7 to get back)
[17:42] <mneptok> craynerd: it's a matter of what kernel modules you have by default. unless someone stripped the kernel, i'll stand by my "boot with it attached" advice.
[17:43] <craynerd> mneptok: I`ve had it in and booted many time...
[17:43] <sacarlson> finish06: http://paste.ubuntu.com/848880/
[17:43] <craynerd> is there anything I should do once booted to get it running?
[17:43]  * zykotick9 glad kedarm's gone - cause i was way off
[17:44] <mneptok> craynerd: no, hopefully.
[17:44] <craynerd> mneptok: in that case, I do appreciate your advice. But it doesn`t work when booted with it plugged in.
[17:45] <finish06> why do you use sync?
[17:45] <sacarlson> finish06: I forget I wrote it years ago
[17:45] <joe_onereb> is it me or has this last version of ubuntu been problematic
[17:45] <finish06> sacarlson, I am a little of a bash noob :(
[17:45] <finish06> lol
[17:45] <sacarlson> finish06: that's why I write scripts so I can forget
[17:46] <finish06> haha, no joke.  figure out what you need and then never have to type it again :)
[17:46] <craynerd> mneptok: have you any other suggestions. It is Ubuntu 10:04
[17:46] <mneptok> craynerd: update and get a newer kernel that probably supports this chipset.
[17:47] <craynerd> I can`t because linuxcnc will not work
[17:48] <mneptok> craynerd: then create a build environment and go through compiling your own module from the source code you have on that CD. or choose another adapter.
[17:49] <Tyrope> Is there a way to filter processes shown by ps -U user? I wanna find out which user runs apache on my VM
[17:49] <sw0rdfish> hey, does Oneiric require more hardware resources than Maverick???
[17:51] <auronandace> sw0rdfish: depends onmany things
[17:52] <joe_onereb> I hope that the new LTS will be more stable, it seems that Oneiric was a bit unstable
[17:52] <oCean> Tyrope: "grep" is a filter, for example   ps axwu |grep -i apache   (-i makes grep case insensitive)
[17:52] <goodtime> unity kinda sucks at first but once you get used to it its ok i guess
[17:53] <joe_onereb> I liked it at first then it became problematic
[17:53] <finish06> unity has its pluses & minuses...
[17:53] <joe_onereb> I'v had issues with kdenlive and gimp reciently
[17:54] <oCean> joe_onereb: do you have an actual support question? chat/discussion is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:54] <finish06> biggest minus = minimal customization
[17:56] <Tyrope> Did somebody answer my question? I D/C'd
[17:57] <oCean> Tyrope: "grep" is a filter, for example   ps axwu |grep -i apache   (-i makes grep case insensitive)
[17:57] <Tyrope> oCean: thank you.
[17:57] <bsilwal> Why doesn't virtual box allows full screen? I hate their scaling thing.
[17:57] <joe_onereb> Kdenlive quit working
[17:58] <vlt> Hello. I installed Ubuntu Oneiric, and now my neighbours hate me. I need help with audio volume settings. Everytime I login my audio volume is set to 100 %, no matter what I select in lightdm's login screen. Any idea how to fix this?
[17:58] <oCean> bsilwal: vbox does full screen and even seamless mode, install GuestAdditions
[17:59] <kyoushuu> bsilwal: Right Ctrl + F = VirtualBox Full Screen
[17:59] <bsilwal> But the size of the display is same. I couldn't find a way to make it show more.
[17:59] <zykotick9> Is lightdm the default DM in oneiric?  the "!info lightdm" reports "In component main, is optional" i'm surprised by the optional?  What is the default DM?
[17:59] <sw0rdfish> I guess I should stay with Maverick a little longer
[18:00] <sacarlson> tyrope did you try $ps u -A
[18:00] <oCean> bsilwal: install guestadditions
[18:00] <bsilwal> will try that
[18:00] <kyoushuu> Then you need Guest Additions, just like what oCean said. Then it will automatically resize the window to fill the whole screen.
[18:00] <kyoushuu> bsilwal: ^
[18:01] <dotnull> Hello everyone. question, does upgrading an ubuntu distribution update the drivers as well?
[18:01] <Gnea> !bug
[18:01] <bsilwal> that will not scale the fonts and everything right. It will simply show me more? Right now i am fed up with the amount of scrolling i need to do.
[18:01] <kyoushuu> dotnull: If they are from Ubuntu repos: yes
[18:02] <sacarlson> dotnull: most of the drivers are in the kernel but if you have others then maybe not
[18:02] <meni> ciao
[18:02] <meni> !list
[18:02] <LukeNukem> can somebody show me a chown example
[18:02] <LukeNukem> please
[18:03] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions LukeNukem
[18:03] <adamus> hi
[18:03] <dotnull> I was just curious -- I am having a problem with the nvidia graphics driver (I believe), and it's not letting me load gnome or anything, except a console. upgrade and dist-upgrade didn't help, so I might just update to 11.10
[18:04] <adamus> i need a help on ubuntu
[18:04] <Ascavasaion> When I try to update my Ubuntu I get this error "W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[18:04] <Ascavasaion> How do I rectify this?
[18:04] <kyoushuu> dotnull: Are those nVidia drivers from Ubuntu repos?
[18:04] <johndoe_> hi, how do I implement full disk encryption with ubuntu 10.04 LTS?
[18:05] <sacarlson> dotnull: I've upgraded with the propriatary nvidia custom install and had to reinstall those
[18:05] <kyoushuu> adamus: Just tell us your questions so that others could help you
[18:06] <sacarlson> johndoe_: http://joernfranz.net/2011/01/20/installing-ubuntu-10-10-with-full-disk-encryption/
[18:06] <bsilwal> can i add guestadditions in mac as well?
[18:07] <sacarlson> johndoe_: not much different on 10.04 I assume
[18:07] <dotnull> sacarlson: I believe so; however, I am not sure. The laptop came with ubuntu already installed when I purchased it (system76). It came with 10.10, and since I updated to 11.04.
[18:07] <kyoushuu> bsilwal: mac as guest or host?
[18:07] <dotnull> I am also not quite sure if it is an nvidia problem, from the console if i try to restart x, it just hangs
[18:07] <jimmy_birer> join #faggot
[18:07] <bsilwal> host, ubuntu lucid vm
[18:07] <johndoe_> sacarlson: thank you, but I am unsure how to implement it with any version of ubuntu...truekrypt does not support it I believe
[18:08] <sacarlson> dotnull: I've only played with full encryption in vertualbox one time for play
[18:08] <UrB> could anyone with android phone & ubuntu 11.10/12.04 tell if the bluetooth is working ok for them as I can't get it to work at all - it did work on 11.04 (well, file transfer did, audio streaming has been borked always)
[18:08] <sacarlson> johndoe_: I didn't use trykrypt
[18:08] <kyoushuu> bsilwal: yes
[18:09] <johndoe_> scarlson:  did you use scram4disk
[18:09] <kyoushuu> bsilwal: Sorry but no
[18:09] <kyoushuu> bsilwal: I misread the docs
[18:09] <Ascavasaion> When I run Update Manager in 10.04 I get this message "W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"  Can someone please help me with this.  thank you.
[18:09] <bsilwal> thats what, i couldnt find a download for Mac
[18:10] <_Marcus> bsilwal: What are you looking for?
[18:10] <bsilwal> it supports windows, linux, solaris, & os2 but not mac.
[18:10] <_Marcus> bsilwal: What are you looking for?
[18:10] <bsilwal> well, I am tired of scroling
[18:10] <bsilwal> i have a big screen, but the vm takes small portion of it.
[18:11] <bsilwal> and the only option is to scale up, that is making bigger fonts and buttons.
[18:11] <bsilwal> but still i had to scroll it.
[18:11] <kyoushuu> bsilwal: Mac support in VirtualBox is added only in 3.2, so there's no Guest Additions yet...
[18:12] <sacarlson> johndoe_: no I used LUKS
[18:12] <kyoushuu> bsilwal: And it's still experimental
[18:12] <iceroot> can someone (on 11.10 with gnome/unity) please give me feedback about this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/936421
[18:12] <tyler> does anyone know how to do this? http://oi39.tinypic.com/24bp66q.jpg
[18:12] <bsilwal> :(
[18:12]  * iskai_me_mila slaps _GoRDoN_ around a bit with a large trout
[18:13] <sacarlson> johndoe_: only notes I can find on my encryption with LUKS http://encryption-infrastructure.blogspot.com/2011/03/remote-on-line-encryption-keys-for-luks.html
[18:13] <_Marcus> iskai: That's insensitive, _GoRDoN_ was just sitting there.
[18:13] <tyler> does anyone know how to fix this? http://oi39.tinypic.com/24bp66q.jpg
[18:14] <_Marcus> tyler: What exactly is the problem?
[18:15] <sacarlson> tyler: I'm not sure but looks like an apple problem?
[18:15] <_Marcus> tyler: And this doesn't look very Ubuntu-related
[18:15] <tyler> _Marcus: i want the close/quit option to be under "google chrome" not "file". sacarlson: it's Macbuntu, for linux.
[18:15] <adamus> io parlo italiano e spero qualcuno ci sara
[18:16] <adamus> ciao a tutti
[18:16] <_Marcus> !it | adamus
[18:16] <johndoe_> sacarlson:  thanks.  so this can encrypt an already existing hdd without deleting information...similar to tkrypt
[18:16] <tyler> sacarlson: _Marcus: not apple, it's macbuntu.. a mac os x theme for linux.
[18:17] <adamus> ma anche l'inglese non ho problemi
[18:17] <sacarlson> johndoe_: you can create files that are mounted as disks that are encrypted
[18:17] <Ljano> hi there can someone help me? how can i install an antivirus or antimalware in ubuntu? are there any specific one for ubuntu?
[18:17] <iceroot> !virus | Ljano
[18:17] <Ljano> My ubuntu can't stop making screenshots all the time
[18:17] <Ljano> while i write
[18:18] <ulli> hi. my nm claims that my wifi connections are disabled by the hardware switch. sadly the hardware switch does change bluetooth but not wifi. this also applies to additional usb sticks. any hint?
[18:18] <Ljano> it's driving me crazy
[18:18] <adamus> i have the same problem ofLjano
[18:18] <kyoushuu> Ljano: Are you sure it's a virus?
[18:18] <sacarlson> Ljano: must be your husband spying on you
[18:18] <ptrkskala> Hello. I use TrueCrypt application on Windows for disk encryption. Now I want to install it on Ubuntu but it seems it's absent from repository. Does it mean that it's not a "recommended" app?
[18:18] <Ljano> adamus do you know the cause of this?
[18:18] <adamus> what?
[18:18] <adamus> pls
[18:18] <OerHeks> Ljano printscreen button stuck ?
[18:18] <Ljano> the screenshots
[18:19] <ikonia> Ljano: this can happen if keys are stuck or if you have a shotcut to scrot or something setup
[18:19] <sacarlson> ptrkskala: LUKS is more supported on linux
[18:19] <ikonia> Ljano: I've done it myself, mapped space bar to scrot by accident
[18:19] <johndoe_> ptrkskala: it works with files, but not full disk encryption
[18:19] <adamus> i have also proble of it's not updating softwares
[18:19] <Guest97188> NEED HELP
[18:19] <bobweaver> hello there I was wondering if some some could please tell me what my extrenel mic is mounted as /dev/ ???    thanks
[18:20] <ptrkskala> sacarlson: Can LUKS mount TrueCrypt volume?
[18:20] <Ljano> do you know how can i see if i have a shorcut to scrot or something?
[18:20] <Guest97188> unable to uninstall virtualbox extension pack
[18:20] <Guest97188> anyone???
[18:20] <ptrkskala> johndoe_: which one works wit files only?
[18:20] <ikonia> Ljano: is it taking screen shots all the time, or just when you move the mouse, press a key
[18:21] <adamus> sombody to help me install antivirus
[18:21] <iceroot> adamus: for what you need antivrus?
[18:21] <johndoe_> ptrkskala: tkrypt
[18:21] <iceroot> adamus: samba? mailserver?
[18:21] <sacarlson> ptrkskala: easycrypt seems to support truecrypt with a gui
[18:22] <adamus> mailserver
[18:22] <iceroot> adamus: sudo apt-get install clamav
[18:22] <ikonia> adamus: there is a guide to setting up a mailserver on https://help.ubuntu.com in the server setting
[18:22] <iceroot> adamus: for the integration see #postfix, #sendmail or whatever you are using
[18:22] <ikonia> adamus: I suggest reading htat
[18:22] <ikonia> that
[18:22] <ptrkskala> johndoe_: you mean linux version of truecrypt support only file-containers?
[18:22] <sacarlson> ptrkskala: you want to encrypt just one file?  I use gedit with some plugin for file encryption
[18:23] <bobweaver> what is /dev/dsp    ? what does dsp stand for ?
[18:23] <bobweaver> Is that my mic ?
[18:23] <lyn> Is there a way to quickly EXPORT your list of application on an Ubuntu installation so you can duplicate it on another computer?
[18:23] <adamus> and i assure everything is perfect except the antivirus and update
[18:23] <auronandace> !clone | lyn
[18:23] <webspyder> dpkg --list
[18:23] <adamus> any help?!
[18:23] <ikonia> adamus: I've told you a link that contains a setup guide
[18:24] <johndoe_> ptrkskala:  im relatively, but i think that is the way it is
[18:24] <karpol> http://dreadradio.xaa.pl/ - enter reggae/rock music
[18:24] <samthewildone> whats is the average fps for ubuntu ?
[18:24] <johndoe_> try luks
[18:24] <ikonia> karpol: please don't spam
[18:24] <karpol> http://dreadradio.xaa.pl/
[18:25] <karpol> okey
[18:25] <karpol> sry;D
[18:25] <ikonia> karpol: thank you
[18:25] <_Marcus> !ot | karpol
[18:25] <karpol> bye all
[18:25] <ken_> unable to uninstall vm extension pack
[18:25] <ikonia> _Marcus: come on - he'd already stopped
[18:25] <johndoe_> ptrkskala: im relatively new:...etc...
[18:25] <ken_> anyone???
[18:25] <ikonia> ken_: anyone what /
[18:25] <samthewildone> I'm thinking ~30 fps is normal for a decent graphics card
[18:25] <adamus> never spammed thanks
[18:25] <lyn> !automate
[18:25] <ikonia> adamus: the link shows you how to install and configure it
[18:25] <_Marcus> ikonia: Just saying. If he talks about one off-topic thing here, who says he wont do another?
[18:25] <ikonia> _Marcus: he did
[18:25] <lyn> !cloning
[18:26] <ken_> ikonia_  unable to uninstall virtualbox extension pack
[18:26] <ikonia> ken_: what's the error
[18:26] <tyler> can anybody help me get the quit/close button for programs, to be under the program name rather than "file". (i'm using ubuntu 10.10 with Macbuntu theme): http://oi39.tinypic.com/24bp66q.jpg
[18:27] <iceroot> tyler: you mean put it on the right like on windows?
[18:27] <ptrkskala> sacarlson: No I need to mount TrueCrypt volume
[18:27] <tyler> iceroot: no no, here hold on..
[18:28] <sacarlson> ptrkskala: is that not what easycrypt does?
[18:28] <adorablelunatic> okay ive got a problem here, i have an ubuntu based distribution 7.0.4 - jaunty i think and i cannot apt-get dist-upgrade because the ubuntu sources.list for that distribution is no longer valid, ive had to resort to using oldreleases
[18:28] <iceroot> !eol | adorablelunatic
[18:28] <ikonia> adorablelunatic: what is the distribution
[18:28] <ptrkskala> scarlson: okay, i'll check it out
[18:29] <guntbert> bobweaver: digital sound processor   if I remember correctly
[18:29] <adorablelunatic> ikonia it is andlinux
[18:29] <iceroot> adorablelunatic: you should upgrade to a supported version (see text from ubottu about eol-upgrades)
[18:29] <ken_> ikonia_ i uninstalled virtualbox but unable to do so or its extension pack
[18:29] <adorablelunatic> linux under wondows
[18:29] <ikonia> adorablelunatic: ok, so there should be andlinux support resources that can help you
[18:29] <ken_> through terminal
[18:29] <adorablelunatic> and thanks i will check out the links
[18:29] <iceroot> adorablelunatic: ah, ubuntu-based. not supported here
[18:29] <ikonia> ken_: how did you install the extension pack
[18:29] <ken_> or whateever
[18:29] <sacarlson> ptrkskala: as noted on there web site   Easy Crypt is a cute little menu which brings the power of TrueCrypt to your system tray.   No terminal commands necessary.   http://ubuntuguru.wordpress.com/2007/12/01/how-to-keep-secret-with-easy-crypt/
[18:29] <bobweaver> arghh I am trying to get Xvidcap to record not only my desktop but also sound in this picture here http://postimage.org/image/kkzsn1s8x/     desktop get about 95 % but I can not get the mic to work what ever I do. But mic works with sound recorder fine. I do not want to use open shot as the time frame's are off nd it comes out bad., Any suggestions
[18:29] <ken_> from its website
[18:30] <adorablelunatic> andlinux has no support
[18:30] <ken_> oracle
[18:30] <iceroot> adorablelunatic: then use a distribution with support :)
[18:30] <lyn> Is there a way to also copy your list of repositories to a new installation?
[18:30] <ikonia> adorablelunatic: then you need to re-install with a proper ubuntu
[18:30] <ikonia> ken_: "how" did you install it, not where di you get it
[18:30] <popey> bobweaver: xvidcap is badly broken, try kazam
[18:30] <ikonia> adorablelunatic: we can't support modified distros based on ubuntu here
[18:30] <tyler> iceroot: in this picture: http://oi39.tinypic.com/24bp66q.jpg see where it says "google chrome" on the panel? and then under "file" when google chrome is open, it says close window? i want that option under "google chrome" rather than "file".
[18:30] <iceroot> lyn: if it is the same ubuntu-version, yes
[18:30] <lyn> hmmmm ... no
[18:30] <bobweaver> popey,  ok .. thanks
[18:30] <ken_> i just clicked it
[18:30] <iceroot> lyn: then its not possible
[18:30] <ptrkskala> sacarlson: great. but is easycrypt present in ubuntu repo?
[18:31] <ken_> it installed automaticlly
[18:31] <iceroot> lyn: because all lines ae different for another ubuntu-version
[18:31] <sacarlson> ptrkskala: yes apt-get install easycrypt
[18:31] <bobweaver> so far xvidcap is the only thing that works with my nvidia card
[18:31] <iceroot> lyn: you can copy them and replace the distribution name
[18:31] <bobweaver> the rest look like ....
[18:31] <lyn> well is there a way to export a list that I couild read ... and find equivalents for manually?
[18:31] <bobweaver> but I will try  kazam
[18:31] <adorablelunatic> iceroot there is no other distribution apart from the semi dead colinux that allows you to run linux alongside windows kernel, the only diffrence is modification on a few scripts and the kernel .. the rest is ubuntu core
[18:31] <iceroot> lyn: you will find them here /etc/apt/sources*
[18:31] <lyn> k ty
[18:31] <iceroot> adorablelunatic: what?
[18:32] <iceroot> adorablelunatic: windows kernel on linux?
[18:32] <auronandace> adorablelunatic: still not supported here
[18:32] <adorablelunatic> sorry i type slow
[18:32] <adorablelunatic> iceroot linux kernel on windows
[18:32] <iceroot> adorablelunatic: what the
[18:32] <ken_> ikonia_: now my virtualbox yhad stopped running
[18:32] <iceroot> adorablelunatic: why is someone doing something like that?
[18:32] <ken_> ikonia_: need to unistall it
[18:32] <sacarlson> lyn: you can also capture a list of all the apps installed in one and have them installed in another with the newer version, I would have to look up the command
[18:33] <adorablelunatic> dont know, but if it was the other way around i would definitely use it
[18:33] <iceroot> sacarlson: not working when the ubuntu version changed
[18:33] <popey> bobweaver: there is a #kazam channel the dev hangs out in
[18:33] <ikonia> ken_: you need to answer my question
[18:33] <auronandace> adorablelunatic: theres no point in that when you could just use a vm
[18:33] <ken_> what?
[18:33] <iceroot> adorablelunatic: both sounds evil like apple-products and we dont support that here
[18:33] <fil1900> how can i have apt-cache search return results by page? meaning waiting for the user in order to continue displaying the options. The reason is i am in tty.
[18:33] <sacarlson> iceroot: what's not working?
[18:33] <bobweaver> popey,  Cool I was wondering why I had to add repo for it
[18:34] <adorablelunatic> auronandace, sorry but full virtualisation is very slow
[18:34] <iceroot> fil1900: command | less
[18:34] <sahil_> is it possible to keep filters of dash turned on by default?
[18:34] <iceroot> fil1900: apt-cache search foobar | less
[18:34] <ken_> ikonia_: virtual box stopped working after installing extension pack
[18:34] <ikonia> ken_: again - not what I asked
[18:34] <popey> bobweaver: bzr branch lp:kazam , then cd kazam/bin, then ./kazam
[18:34] <fil1900> iceroot : thanx!
[18:34] <ikonia> ken_: I'll ask one more time" how did you install the extension pack"
[18:34] <adorablelunatic> iceroot i dont see whats so evil about it
[18:34] <popey> bobweaver: there is also a ppa, check launchpad.net/kazam
[18:34] <Ascavasaion> I did an update through Update Manager and now I have no Adobe Flashplayer.  Any ideas how to get it back?
[18:34] <iceroot> adorablelunatic: everything
[18:34] <ptrkskala> sacarlson: for some reason Easy Crypt does not appear in Synaptic... hmm
[18:34] <iceroot> adorablelunatic: running windows with a linux-kernel....
[18:34] <bobweaver> popey other channel ?
[18:35] <iceroot> adorablelunatic: or running ubuntu with a windows-kernel
[18:35] <ken_> ikonia_: i downloaded extension pack then just clicked it
[18:35] <iceroot> adorablelunatic: both sounds very very very evil
[18:35] <auronandace> iceroot: sounds worse than wubi :)
[18:35] <adorablelunatic> iceroot how so?
[18:35] <ikonia> ken_: what format was the download in
[18:35] <adamus> i cant install ubuntu one , any help?
[18:35] <johndoe_> sacarlson: do you think sramdisk 4 linux is worth a try?  or have you ever used it?
[18:35] <ken_> ikonia_: there was only one format
[18:35] <ikonia> adamus: how are you trying to install it
[18:35] <sacarlson> ptrkskala: I see it in my synaptic easycrypt in UB10.04
[18:35] <ikonia> ken_: and what was the format
[18:36] <ken_> ikonia_: not mentioned
[18:36] <sacarlson> johndoe_: I don't know anything about sramdisk
[18:36] <chuckhendo> dual monitors (of different resolutions) in linux with nVidia card - can it be done without tearing?
[18:36] <Muszti> hi all
[18:36]  * mostlygentoo slaps sacarlson around a bit with a large trout
[18:36] <johndoe_> sacarlson: scramdisk 4 linux
[18:36] <BWorld> hello
[18:37] <Muszti> my ubuntu server 11.10 shows in the taskbar this: wired network device not managed
[18:37] <BWorld> I am a bit stuck with my ubuntu installation in combination with a ati videocard
[18:37] <adamus> i am following instrctns: create email, the will coordite then
[18:37] <auronandace> chuckhendo: as in multiple monitors with seperate X sessions? yes
[18:37] <Muszti> how can I make it managed?
[18:37] <BWorld> it freezes every time
[18:37] <ken_> ikonia_: i just uninstalled virtualbox but extension pack is still running
[18:38] <BWorld> I tried installing additional drivers, 1 gave me an error and the other succeeded..
[18:38] <adamus> ikonia? can u help
[18:38] <adorablelunatic> everyone thanks i now have all the information i need to fix my issue :)
[18:38] <BWorld> someone familiar with ubuntu and ati gpu problems?
[18:38] <BWorld> ubuntu version is 11.10 btw
[18:38] <chuckhendo> auronandace: I'm not sure if I fully understand separate X sessions. I wouldn't be able to drag items between monitors, correct?
[18:38] <guntbert> Muszti: where are you running that server? remote?
[18:38] <storm69_> ok
[18:39] <Muszti> no
[18:39] <Muszti> it's here at home behind a router
[18:39] <auronandace> chuckhendo: thats my understanding yes
[18:40] <ikonia> ken_: please show me the download link you used
[18:40] <arpad2> hello,
[18:40] <ken_> ikonia_: ok
[18:40] <chuckhendo> aronandace: well that's disappointing. Thank you for your help
[18:40] <ikonia> adamus: creating an email is nothing to do with ubuntu one
[18:40] <ikonia> adamus: you need to explain your problem clearly
[18:41] <arpad2> boot failure after grub2 reinstall, any ideas, please?
[18:41] <ikonia> arpad2: define boot failure
[18:41] <guntbert> !who | Muszti
[18:41] <ken_> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/virtualbox/downloads/index.html#extpack
[18:41] <QueQue> !who | nikon
[18:41] <ikonia> ken_: which one of those downloads did you use
[18:42] <adamus> i with centrlized software with a single passwor
[18:42] <auronandace> chuckhendo: i've never tried sharing the X session across 2 monitors, though i expect you would need the same resolution
[18:42] <QueQue> !help
[18:42] <guntbert> Muszti: please !pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[18:42] <adamus> because of time and environment
[18:42] <ken_> ikonia_: 1st one
[18:42] <arpad2> ikonia: grub2 starts ok, after that xubuntu image freezes and doesn't go to login screen
[18:42] <ken_> version 4.1.8
[18:42] <ikonia> arpad2: remove the splash screen to see what's going on
[18:43] <arpad2> ikonia: how to do that?
[18:43] <adamus> ubuntu one i tried and neither was successfull with the email account and the buntu one!
[18:43] <arpad2> arpad2: while in grub?
[18:43] <adamus> i am getting frustrated
[18:43] <chuckhendo> auronandace: Yeah, it wasn't pretty. Pretty bad tearing on the higher resolution monitor
[18:43] <adamus> ikonia?
[18:43] <arpad2> ikonia: while in grub?
[18:44] <auronandace> !xrandr | chuckhendo
[18:44] <ikonia> arpad2: what ?
[18:44] <Muszti> !tab guntbert
[18:44] <arpad2> ikonia: remove a splash screen
[18:44] <ikonia> arpad2: ahh, yes,
[18:44] <ikonia> adamus: I'm sorry I don't understand what you are saying
[18:44] <Muszti> !guntbert how can I do that
[18:45] <CharminTheMoose> How necessary are the /lib/modules/<version>/kernel/drivers/char/agp and /lib/modules/<version>/kernel/drivers/gpu for displaying boot splash screens? Can't vesa/vga16fb be used instead?
[18:45] <auronandace> wow, that looks rather old (the xrandr stuff)
[18:45] <ikonia> ken_: please run this command "sudo find / -name VBoxPciRawR3.so -print 2>/dev/null" without the " quotes, and pastebin (not in the channel) the output
[18:45] <guntbert> !pastebin > Muszti
[18:45] <Muszti> and how can I use !tab?
[18:45] <guntbert> !tab | Muszti
[18:45] <auronandace> !brain | Muszti
[18:45] <adamus> i followed the installation instruction of ubuntu one, and been unsuccessfull!
[18:45] <ken_> ikonia_: k
[18:46] <chuckhendo> auronandace: NV driver is the OSS driver, right? Are there any major downsides to using that vs the binary driver?
[18:46] <ikonia> adamus: ok, explain what is failing
[18:46] <adamus> is there any another way to easy installation ubuntu one?
[18:47] <auronandace> chuckhendo: sorry, that xrandr documentation is rather old, nv is the 2d open source nvidia driver that is no longer maintained
[18:47] <arpad2> ikonia: grub2 starts ok, after that xubuntu image freezes and doesn't go to login screen
[18:47] <thoma288> any thoughts why my wireless keyboard /DELL Hybrid Studio is not detected by ubuntu 11.10? fix available?
[18:47] <faenil> guys how can I change the channel in wifi Infrastructure hotspot creation? :D
[18:47] <arpad2> boot failure after grub2 reinstall, any ideas, please?
[18:47] <ikonia> arpad2: I understand that, you've said that. That's why I said remove the splash screen so you can see where the boot hangs
[18:47] <adamus> the email setting fails
[18:47] <ikonia> arpad2: please don't repeat the same thing over and over
[18:47] <Jazzanova> Hi something changed on my system after a driver upgrade and lighdm respawns. I have nvidia drivers. I tried starting X manually and it works. Can I restore to a working system through a reinstall via live cd ?
[18:48] <ikonia> adamus: you are still not saying what is failing
[18:48] <arpad2> ikonia: ok , sorry for that
[18:48] <Muszti> guntbert I dont understand
[18:48] <adamus> before in the HD it was a win 7
[18:49] <arpad2> ikonia: how to remove grub2's splash screen?
[18:49] <guntbert> Muszti: to say my nick, just type gun<tab>, it will be autocopleted
[18:49] <adamus> now OS/UNIX
[18:49] <Jazzanova> Is there such thing in Ubuntu as repair ?
[18:49] <ikonia> arpad2: in the grub boot options you should see an option that says "splash" change that to "nosplash"
[18:49] <Muszti> guntbert, ok
[18:49] <_Marcus> Jazzanova: What do you mean, exactly?
[18:49] <ikonia> adamus: please try to answer the questions I've asked rather than giving random imformation
[18:49] <maxo> In Gnome 3, I get reminders notifications for past events in my calendar, anyone else have this problem?
[18:49] <arpad2> ikonia: ok, thank you for that
[18:50] <guntbert> Muszti: and for the pastebin just read the instructions you got from ubottu
[18:50] <arpad2> ikonia: although it goes from grub to xubuntu, and freezes there
[18:50] <Jazzanova> Marcus: I'm not sure what got upgraded, maybe the kernel. But my X is broken and I want the easiest way to get a working system
[18:50] <ikonia> arpad2: ok, I'm going to stop helping you, you've told me that 3 times, despite me telling you a.) what to do b.) to stop telling me the same information over and over
[18:51] <shnatsel> Hello everyone! I need to mirror ubuntu repo and several PPAs and make a single local repo containing packages from all of them. How do I do it? I've tried apt-mirror but it doesn't create a single repo of them. Reprepo seems to be what I'm looking for, but I can't find any docs on that are not obsolete... :(
[18:51] <adamus> i will make a list of wat is failing i return in the system
[18:51] <shnatsel> I need it to make lp:ubuntu-cdimage scripts work, they require a local repo with all the packages
[18:52] <ikonia> shnatsel: It's unwise to put a PPA into the same repo as ubuntu's core due to conflicting dependencies / packages
[18:52] <ikonia> shnatsel: thats why they are kept seperate
[18:52] <Muszti> guntbert,  1
[18:52] <Muszti>  2
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[18:52] <Muszti>  4
[18:52] <Muszti>  5
[18:52] <Muszti>  6
[18:52] <FloodBot1> Muszti: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:53] <_Marcus> What is zq?
[18:53] <ikonia> _Marcus: quiet
[18:53] <shnatsel> ikonia: well... lp:ubuntu-cdimage requires that. You mean, I can't put newer versions of packages there at all, only add packages?
[18:53] <ikonia> shnatsel: at a basic level - yes
[18:54] <Muszti> guntbert, there's no instructions on paste.ubuntu
[18:54] <_Marcus> Muszti: Do you need instructions on how to use a pastebin/
[18:55] <shnatsel> ikonia: lp:ubuntu-cdimage is already a damn complex thing, so... if you point me the direction, I hope I'll figure out the rest.
[18:55] <webczat> Hello, where can I find the dev version of the ubuntu installer?
[18:55] <Muszti> guntbert, maybe like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/848982/
[18:55] <ikonia> shnatsel: figure what out ?
[18:55] <guntbert> Muszti: the instruction was in the text from ubottu - you put the contents of that file into the text box on paste.ubuntu and tell us the link you get from the server
[18:56] <shnatsel> ikonia: how to do it
[18:56] <guntbert> Muszti: yes :)
[18:56] <shnatsel> ikonia: how to... hmm.. merge two repos
[18:56] <ikonia> shnatsel: I've just told you, you can't do that
[18:56] <shnatsel> totally no way to do that
[18:56] <shnatsel> ?
[18:57] <ikonia> shnatsel: no - I've just explained why, unless you manually validate each package (or script it) and then create a new package list for that merged repo
[18:57] <milord> hallo
[18:57] <shnatsel> ikonia: I'm OK with that. What shall I validate?
[18:57] <matju> how do I customise common colours of the UI ? I seem to only be allowed to pick one of too few themes, but Ubuntu 11.10 seems to have removed features like this or moved them to unknown locations.
[18:57] <ikonia> shnatsel: nothing, you shouldn't do it
[18:57] <slash__> someone knows how to fix the equations editor of word 2007 in wine? it looks like it misses fonts or something
[18:57] <ikonia> slash__: #winehq for that
[18:58] <shnatsel> ikonia: well, I'm quite desperate to do it by now. My PPA is not that big so maybe I can just emulate uploading stuff to local repo or something.
[18:58] <Muszti> guntbert, my ip is 192.168.2.100, my gateway is: 192.168.2.1, my dns are: 84.2.44.1, 84.2.46.1
[18:58] <ikonia> shnatsel: it sounds like you have no understanding of what you are doing
[18:58] <gsr> Hi all.  I'm trying to create a Debian USB install stick.  I've downloaded an iso (debian-6.0.4-amd64-netinst.iso).  Following the debian manual (Section 4.3), I'm trying to "cat debian-6.0.4-amd64-netinst.iso > /dev/sdc1"  I know that sdc1 is the correct drive, and it's not mounted.  I am using a rootshell.  But I'm still getting a "oermission denied" error.  Anyone know what else would cause this?
[18:58] <ikonia> gsr: ask in #debian
[18:59] <guntbert> Muszti: edit that file with    gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces and  put a   # in front of the last line - then restart
[18:59] <gsr> ikonia: ahh sorry, wrong room
[18:59] <milord> quit
[18:59] <jason> howdy
[18:59] <ikonia> gsr: not a problem
[18:59] <maniX> can someone guide me to the module for broadcom 4313 bluetooth device
[18:59] <shnatsel> ikonia: probably not :(
[18:59] <ikonia> shnatsel: there is zero reason to merge these repos
[18:59] <Guest8029> I just installed ubuntu!
[19:00] <theadmin> !yay | Guest21785
[19:00] <theadmin> Oops, wrong guest
[19:00] <theadmin> lol
[19:00] <Muszti> guntbert, ok I try it
[19:00] <Guest8029> ty ;)
[19:00] <maxo> does anyone have their calendar set up in evolution? Do you get notifications for events that have already happened?
[19:00] <Muszti> guntbert, thank you if it works I wont be back
[19:00] <shnatsel> ikonia: so you think patching lp:ubuntu-cdimage to work with several archives at once will be easier?
[19:00] <guntbert> Muszti: Good luck :-)
[19:01] <Muszti> guntbert, so maybe see you next time
[19:01] <shnatsel> ikonia: looks like it can't do that right now
[19:01] <nobitanobi> Hi. I'm getting a warning of lack os space in filesystem root.  How can I do a diagnostic to check what's going on? I have 9gb in the root partition and I don't know what it is getting so full...
[19:01] <ikonia> shnatsel: no, I don't think it's desiged to work like that
[19:02] <shnatsel> ikonia: well, it's designed to use a single repo - ubuntu main, ubuntu main + universe in one repo in worst case
[19:02] <ikonia> shnatsel: no, not in one repo
[19:02] <adorablelunatic> so ive decided to install ubuntu natively now, just one question: have they fixed the battery usage issues in ubuntu yet?
[19:03] <Guest8029> is there a site ubuntu for dummies cause i need to learn this
[19:03] <ken_> ikonia_: am sending output
[19:03] <cybergespenst> hi
[19:03] <ikonia> Guest8029: https://help.ubuntu.com
[19:03] <ikonia> Guest8029: an excellent introduction
[19:03] <ikonia> ken_: please pastebin it
[19:03] <guntbert> nobitanobi: start with    df -h
[19:03] <Guest8029> will do
[19:03] <nobitanobi> ok let's see
[19:04] <guntbert> !pastebin > nobitanobi
[19:04] <Gentoo64> nobitanobi, gnome should come with a graphical dfisk usage analyzer
[19:04] <Guest22511> Hello, I'm a thirteen year old interested in helping developing ubuntu, but I would like help learning ways around..... Can someone teach me the programming skills necessary?
[19:04] <Gentoo64> called baobab apparently
[19:04] <nobitanobi> guntbert: I have this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/848991/
[19:04] <ikonia> Guest22511: not really no
[19:05] <ikonia> Guest22511: you learn the programming skills, then apply them to projects, such as Ubuntu
[19:05] <royale1222> Guest22511: start with c and cpp.
[19:05] <shnatsel> ikonia: you mean I can make lp:ubuntu-cdimage look in several different repos for packages to build the rootfs and ISO? It looks like it's designed to use only one repo at a time.
[19:05] <Guest22511> i know C++ mainly.... but I wanna do GUI development
[19:05] <ikonia> shnatsel: I believe it's designed to use one repo yes
[19:05] <ikonia> Guest22511: then you need to learn
[19:05] <shnatsel> ikonia: well, I need to work that around somehow :(
[19:06] <ikonia> shnatsel: no, you need a product that does what you want
[19:06] <guntbert> nobitanobi: that confirms what you said - now    du  -sh /*  please
[19:06] <nobitanobi> ok
[19:06] <maniX> hello guys, i have a hp-g6-1219tu laptop with ubuntu 11.10 running on it. It has a hybrid broadcom wifi-bluetooth adapter(BCM-4313) installed on it. i have installed Broadcom STA driver on it. But still i am not able to have the bluetooth on. Someone please guide me to download the module for the bluetooth driver
[19:06] <Guest22511> from where can I learn? they say that ubuntu has a tutorial Channel.....
[19:06] <royale1222> Guest22511: make your own cli programs first, use ncurses next..
[19:06] <ikonia> Guest22511: learning to write c++ guis isn't an ubuntu project/technique
[19:06] <ikonia> Guest22511: it's a general programming skill (try the ##c++ channel)
[19:07] <Guest22511> thanks :D
[19:07] <royale1222> Guest22511: then shift to real gui, gtk etc for your program..
[19:07] <violinappren> Guest22511: look into the Qt and/or GTK toolkits, not the right channel for that here
[19:07] <adorablelunatic> iceroot have they fixed the battery usage issues in ubuntu yet?
[19:07] <shnatsel> ikonia: well, lp:ubuntu-cdimage is the best for building rootfs of all things I tried. I've tried UCK and in-house solutions, they tend to suck when the distro really diverges from Ubuntu :(
[19:07] <ikonia> shnatsel: well lp:ubuntu-cdimage "sucks" if it's not designed to do what you want, it's worthless
[19:07] <ikonia> shnatsel: it's a great product but if it doesn't work how you want it to, accept it
[19:08] <nobitanobi> guntbert: is going pretty slow :)
[19:08] <nobitanobi> stoped at /tmp
[19:08] <nobitanobi> ok, here it goes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/848995/
[19:08] <guntbert> nobitanobi: let us be patient :), it will not stop
[19:08] <shnatsel> ikonia: I'm afraid I don't have alternatives...
[19:08] <fil1900> hey ppl, another question.. is it possible to boot in tty mode(all 6 visual terminals), without having X loaded ? And then type startx to load it? running ubuntu 10.10..
[19:08] <Gentoo64> nobitanobi, try typing baobab in terminal
[19:09] <ikonia> shnatsel: it just means you can't do what you want
[19:09] <nobitanobi> ok
[19:09] <nobitanobi> yes Gentoo64 the analyzer comes up
[19:09] <shnatsel> ikonia: EPIC FAIL. elementary OS Luna just ceased to be.
[19:10] <Gentoo64> nobitanobi, yea its a lot easier now, you can just see what folders are takign space
[19:10] <shnatsel> ikonia: anyway, thanks a lot for the help!
[19:10] <nobitanobi> I will do that. Thanks
[19:10] <adorablelunatic> ikonia have canonical fixed battery usage issues with ubuntu yet?
[19:10] <ikonia> adorablelunatic: there is battery usage issues with ubuntu
[19:10] <ikonia> adorablelunatic: sorry, there is "no"
[19:10] <guntbert> nobitanobi: well, there is /usr - you obviously have many programs installed, and then there is /var   --  next step   du -sh /var/*     (I suspect /var/log will be the biggest)
[19:11] <cori> Hey quick how do i get to compiz if unity bar is missing?
[19:11] <ikonia> adorablelunatic: there are certain hardeware devices that have poor battery performance with the linux kernel - but that is a.) not ubuntu b.) not generic battery failure,
[19:11] <cori> *quick question
[19:11] <smittix> Hi All, I have just installed Ubuntu 11.10 on a brand new Samsung laptop and I have to press really hard on the track pad for it to move. Any Ideas?
[19:12] <violinappren> fil1900: disable lightdm from starting up on boot.. man update-rc.d `
[19:12] <bobo37773> cori: You mean load compiz as desktop?
[19:12] <cfhowlett> smittix   mouse>preferences change the sensitivity
[19:12] <nobitanobi> 150 mb on log yes... http://paste.ubuntu.com/849003/
[19:12] <smittix> cfhowlett: I have tried that, it makes no difference at all.
[19:12] <mustafaerhann> hello all. how to use skystar2 dvb card in ubuntu 11.10
[19:12] <nobitanobi> cache 362
[19:12] <alesantro> some greek music support with comments if u like --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTg28Kitb98
[19:12] <ikonia> alesantro: please don't spam
[19:12] <adorablelunatic> ikonia so i should expect a same if not better battery life using linux on my bosses laptop? (toshiba qosmio f-60)
[19:13] <ikonia> last adamus
[19:13] <alesantro> sry have a nice day
[19:13] <cfhowlett> smittix   dual booting?  If the same problem shows up under other OS, it's a hardware issue...
[19:13] <ikonia> last adamus
[19:13] <ikonia> oops
[19:13] <smittix> cfhowlett: Works fine within Windows.
[19:13] <absolutionx> Would anyone be able to point me out to a good tutorial for compiling the 3.2.6 kernel on 11.10?
[19:13] <ikonia> absolutionx: why do you want to do that
[19:13] <cfhowlett> smittix   what manufacture of laptop?
[19:13] <nobitanobi> guntbert: maybe I should resize the root partition with GParted
[19:13] <smittix> cfhowlett: Samsung RF511
[19:13] <ikonia> adorablelunatic: depends if there are any support issues with the hardware you use
[19:13] <violinappren> absolutionx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[19:14] <adorablelunatic> ikonia, iceroot thanks allot for your help and valuable time by the way
[19:14] <absolutionx> ikonia: I like having a bleeding edge system
[19:14] <Gentoo64> absolutionx, any reason you need it?
[19:14] <guntbert> nobitanobi: first make room!
[19:14] <ikonia> absolutionx: why ? you are just going to break you system
[19:14] <absolutionx> Gentoo64: Not really, just for fun
[19:14] <shnatsel> ikonia: reprepo seems to be able to merge repos, apt pinning seems to do similar things to what I need without merging. I'll dig this a bit more, if I manage to do it, I'll let you know.
[19:14] <nobitanobi> guntbert: what do you mean?
[19:14] <cori> how do i renable unity from compiz configer? (as in get to compiz configer with out the unity bar enabled)
[19:14] <violinappren> absolutionx: google ubuntu ppa kernel mainline
[19:14] <bobo37773> absolutionx: Are you trying to do a custom kernel or just an updated one?
[19:14] <ikonia> shnatsel: again, I very very very strongly advise you not to do this
[19:14] <matju> question for anyone : How do I customise common colours of the UI ? I seem to only be allowed to pick one of too few themes, but Ubuntu 11.10 seems to have removed features like this or moved them to unknown locations.
[19:15] <oCean> violinappren: don't tell others to google, thanks
[19:15] <adorablelunatic> ikonia nvidia gt330M graphics i7 cpu, intel chipset.
[19:15] <aynur> u?
[19:15] <violinappren> ikonia: absolutionx: most kernels (including prereleases) are compiled and packaged for ubuntu
[19:15] <Gentoo64> absolutionx, as long as you keep te old kernels youll be ok, you might mess it up
[19:15] <violinappren> oCean: roger that
[19:15] <ikonia> violinappren: yes ? and ?
[19:16] <shnatsel> ikonia: I can't just give up... and I genuinely don't understand why, maybe there's some FAQ I should read first?
[19:16] <absolutionx> bobo37773: I wanted to update to the latest kernel
[19:16] <ikonia> adorablelunatic: why arey ou telling me that
[19:16] <guntbert> nobitanobi: please pastebin the output of      du -sh /var/*    (and I will miss your answers if they don't have my nick in them :-))
[19:16] <javierf_> Hi! I have ubuntu 11.10 and the famous wifi problem with atheros cards. If I use the command "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off" on terminal, my connection goes back to work (at least for a long while), setting off power mannagement. But I would like to set that option as a default, that every time I switch on, power mannagement is off, it's annoying writting that on the terminal everytime. But couldn't make it. Someone can help me doing that? Thanks
[19:16] <aynur> aynur
[19:16] <ikonia> shnatsel: there is no FAQ as it's not something you should be doing
[19:16] <violinappren> ikonia: and it's intended for testing bleeding edge kernels ...
[19:16] <bobo37773> absolutionx: Yeah you just need a 3rd party ppa
[19:16] <Gentoo64> absolutionx, if you think itll be faster or something then it wont
[19:16] <nobitanobi> guntbert: sorry. http://paste.ubuntu.com/849003/
[19:16] <ikonia> violinappren: again why are you telling me this ?
[19:16] <adorablelunatic> ikonia just wondering if you knew of any driver related issues with toshiba laptops
[19:16] <ikonia> adorablelunatic: no idea,
[19:16] <aynur> aynu\
[19:17] <violinappren> ikonia: you told him he's going to break her/his system
[19:17] <ikonia> violinappren: no I didn't
[19:17] <oCean> aynur: what are you trying to do?
[19:17] <adorablelunatic> ikonia, okay once again thanks for your time! :)
[19:17] <ikonia> violinappren: I told him if he tries to compile his own, for no reason it will break his system as he doesn't know what to do
[19:18] <adorablelunatic> ikonia one last question: kde or gnome? whats your preference?
[19:18] <absolutionx> Gentoo64: So updating the kernel is a bad idea? Why would it break the system? It is part of the 3.0 tree.
[19:18] <ikonia> adorablelunatic: what's your preference is what's important
[19:18] <cfhowlett> smittix  well I THINK I found your solution, sadly, I don't read German...http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=samsung%20rf511%20ubuntu%20touchpad&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDMQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marcus-bungert.de%2Farchives%2F1159&ei=qUpBT-b6LI3YiQKJnvjeDQ&usg=AFQjCNGA-J3luujiZUrZnQ0TyoHKQvExdA&cad=rja
[19:18] <ken_> ikonia_: sorry
[19:18] <Gentoo64> absolutionx, i didnt say itrd break
[19:18] <ken_> got diverted
[19:18] <auronandace> !poll | adorablelunatic
[19:18] <ikonia> ken_: no need to apologise
[19:18] <cori> ..can any one read me?
[19:18] <guntbert> nobitanobi: please investigate yourself what is so big in /var/lib   - that is quite unusual    (use the technique I showed you)
[19:19] <Gentoo64> cori, no
[19:19] <nobitanobi> ok, let's see
[19:19] <cori> lol
[19:19] <ken_> ikonia_
[19:19] <cfhowlett> smittix  well I THINK I found your solution, sadly, I don't read German...http://www.marcus-bungert.de/archives/1159
[19:19] <ken_> http://pastebin.com/xP7q2VD4
[19:19] <ikonia> ken_: if you remove /usr/lib/virtualbox/ExtensionPacks and reboot you'll find it no longer present
[19:20] <matju> =005k.llliuuu6
[19:20] <ken_> ikonia_:
[19:20] <ken_> using apt-get ?
[19:20] <ikonia> ken_: no, using the "rm" command
[19:20] <cori> k I accidently disabled unity form the compiz configur menue how can i get to the compiz configure menue with out the unity enabled?
[19:20] <ikonia> ken_: you didn't install it using apt-get, so apt-get doesn't know about it
[19:20] <nobitanobi> guntbert: is something I just installed. MongoDB, it takes 1.5 GB
[19:20] <smittix> cfhowlett: I will check it out thanks
[19:21] <ken_> oh
[19:21] <rhizmoe> hi all
[19:22] <rhizmoe> how do i do a recursive file search in thunar? "find files" ain't it.
[19:22] <smittix> cfhowlett: Latest update on that site says that with Kernel v3 and Ubuntu 11.10 it works fine. So it doesn't look like its the same problem.
[19:22] <bigterd> when booting, kerenel spits out my raid 5 array is degraded, and askes to continue booting, y/n  either option dumps it to initramfs.....what should i do from there?
[19:22] <smittix> cfhowlett: Thanks anyway.
[19:22] <bigterd> the OS itself is on it's own drive, that's not part of the array
[19:22] <rhizmoe> bigterd: repace the broken drive
[19:22] <rhizmoe> *replace
[19:22] <bigterd> rhizmoe, it's not broken, i tripped over the power cord... :/
[19:22] <nobitanobi> guntbert: I'm going to try and change the path
[19:22] <matju> question for anyone : How do I customise common colours of the GNOME 3 UI ? I seem to only be allowed to pick one of too few themes, but Ubuntu 11.10 seems to have removed features like this or moved them to unknown locations.
[19:22] <wonderman> hi all, so i need to setup a root cronjob, to run --curl ?
[19:22] <wonderman> do*
[19:22] <guntbert> nobitanobi: I suggest removing that again (not sure if that will give you the space back as it is a "meta-package"), and then you use a live CD tu resize)
[19:23] <rhizmoe> bigterd: "degraded" means the raid thinks one of the drives is broken. kicking the cord can do that.
[19:23] <bobo37773> matju: gnome3? gnome-tweak-tool
[19:23] <bigterd> rhizmoe, i know!, weither i boot with the degraded array enabled, it dumps to initramfs, i can't get the main os to boot to repair the array
[19:23] <Varifold> Greetings. How do I register my nickname at Freenode?
[19:23] <bobo37773> matju: I think you actually mean how to change gtk3 aka gtk+ themes
[19:23] <rhizmoe> bigterd: that sounds like two separate problems.
[19:24] <ikonia> Varifold: join #freenode and ask for help
[19:24] <ikonia> !register > Varifold
[19:24] <guest89213402349> Hello. I have an encrypted /home partition which I would like to be unencrypted. How can I decrypt it?
[19:24] <bigterd> hm, alright.
[19:24] <Varifold> Thank you, ubottu, ikonia!
[19:24] <rhizmoe> guest89213402349: https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+decrypt+encrypted+partition
[19:25] <BWorld> could someone please point me in the right direction with my radeon problem? I am having the machine now stuck, and I am logged in via a ssh connection
[19:25] <bigterd> what should i modify in initramfs to get the system to boot into multiuser mode?
[19:25] <BWorld> I am running 2 computers, 1 I am typing at and I am connecting with this one to the one that is stuck as I am typing
[19:25] <BWorld> but still able to login via ssh
[19:26] <bobo37773> bigterd: why would you need to edit intramfs?
[19:26] <nobitanobi> guntbert: I will try doing that. Thanks for your help.
[19:26] <rhizmoe> now we know your ssh is successful. care to describe the problem?
[19:26] <bigterd> isn't intramfs used to repair a broken system?
[19:26] <BWorld> oh sorry, I wrote the problem above but here it is: after login the screen freezes
[19:26] <guntbert> nobitanobi: no problem :)    and  Good luck :-)
[19:26] <BWorld> cant do anything else but restarting using the power switch
[19:27] <BWorld> and ssh into the machine but dont know what to look for...
[19:28] <bobo37773> bigterd: no not exactly. you may be thinking or a recovery kernel or a fallback mode not intramfs. can you even boot into a console?
[19:28] <nobitanobi> guntbert: do you recommend any size for the root partition though?
[19:28] <nobitanobi> I read 10gb would be enough... but...
[19:28] <ken_> ikonia_: still unable to remove it
[19:28] <rhizmoe> if it's a radeon thing, just zap your config in your home dir
[19:28] <ikonia> ken_: please explain the problem
[19:28] <ken_> showing write protected
[19:28] <RenatoSilva> I've downloaded ubuntu iso and extracted to usb drive, am I missing something or should I "make the usb bootable"? when I try to boot from it it says there's no OS
[19:28] <ikonia> ken_: use "sudo rm -rf"
[19:28] <ken_> permission denied
[19:28] <bigterd> bobo37773, grub shows, i pick normal boot, complains of my degraded array, with a Y/N option, both yes and no dumps instantly to initramfs
[19:28] <malumdeus> you might have partitioned the usb wrong
[19:29] <BWorld> When i run tail -f /var/log/syslog nothing is in there and when i try ctrl+c it wont exit
[19:29] <cfhowlett> nobitanobi   10g should be plenty for standard installations...
[19:29] <bobo37773> bigterd: do you have any other options?
[19:29] <nobitanobi> cfhowlett: what do you mean by "standard"?
[19:29] <BWorld> rhizmoe, what do you mean because yes, it is a radeon 6500 hd card..
[19:29] <ken_> ikonia_:
[19:29] <ken_> i think i got it
[19:29] <cfhowlett> nobitanobi   ubuntu 11.10 iso version...
[19:30] <bigterd> bobo37773, nope. the main os drive is not part of the array, i would think i could boot into that and repair the array, but i'm unable to get that far.
[19:31] <guntbert> nobitanobi: that greatly depends on what programs you install, but normally 10GB should be enough - maybe ask the channel about that again
[19:31] <bobo37773> bigterd: you may need to chroot into the system for fixes like from a livecd I mean
[19:31] <nobitanobi> ok, thanks guys
[19:31] <bigterd> bobo37773, oh..shit.
[19:32] <bobo37773> bigterd: yeah. dont edit intramfs. that is used to load the kernel itself into ram I believe.
[19:32] <matju> bobo37773: what is «GNOME Color Chooser» ? It has two fields for choosing Compiz colours, but applying them has no effect.
[19:32] <bigterd> well, no, not edit, it dumps me to the initramfs console. i thought that's where i'm able to mount and repair/change/fix things to get the main OS to boot at the miniuium
[19:32] <BWorld> rhizmoe, still there? I will try that, wich folder is it I need to remove?
[19:33] <bobo37773> matju: your colors are handled by your themes most likely. gtk3 themes are not color customizable from any gui yet. you need to edit the themes directly. also when choosing new themes you may need to log out and back in or reboot. if that is in fact what we are talking about here
[19:34] <RamtinA> my partitions are not avalible for mount
[19:35] <matju> bobo37773: why does the GNOME design team think it's a good idea to rewrite stuff from scratch, dropping support randomly, and keep old customisation tools around for extra confusion ?
[19:35] <bobo37773> bigterd: oh I see. an ugly recovery console. yeah I have been there before. just use a livecd. it will probably be easier for you
[19:35] <bobo37773> matju: not sure. I don't use gnome
[19:36] <matju> bobo37773: what do you use then ?
[19:36] <bobo37773> matju: openbox
[19:36] <bigterd> matju, lxde
[19:36] <RamtinA> My partitions are not avalible for mount what should i do?
[19:36] <bigterd> lxde is blazing on this dual core amd 64
[19:37] <matju> bigterd: what is lxde ?
[19:37] <GummyBear> I'm a gummy bear, I'm a funny bear, i'm a yummy, chummy, funny, lucky gummy bear :D
[19:37] <bigterd> matju, gui
[19:37] <bigterd> matju, ultra light weight
[19:37] <bigterd> simple and fast. lets the system do system things instead of drawing your p0rn on the screen.
[19:38] <bobo37773> matju: lxde is a desktop environment like gnome, kde, xfce, etc.. you will still have to learn to customize your themes either way though.
[19:38] <ken_> ikonia_: just rebooted n checked
[19:38] <ken_> its really gone
[19:38] <ken_> thanks dude...   :))
[19:38] <matju> bigterd: what does lightweight mean in practical terms ? (this word is used very inconsistently... everybody has the impression that their favourite system is lightweight)
[19:38] <bobo37773> matju: if all you want is a window manager though you dont have to run a desktop environment
[19:39] <GummyBear> matju: it means "what I use is cool and what you use is not"
[19:39] <matju> bobo37773: actually, what I want is a desktop environment such as GNOME 2.
[19:40] <kpas_> question about NVIDIA error message
[19:40] <bobo37773> matju: yeah gnome2 is a dead duck. most of the other ones are pretty betaish still. Have you tried xfce? as in xubuntu
[19:40] <bigterd> matju, lightweight, it means i've ran it on a 486/66 with 64mb ram.
[19:40] <kpas_> I am getting -  Failed to query NoScanout for screen 0
[19:40] <bigterd> painful, but possible.
[19:40] <kpas_> anyone know what that measn
[19:41] <GummyBear> bobo37773: Gnome2 is as dead as I'm using Gnome2 right now
[19:41] <GummyBear> bobo37773: and I would upgrade only to Gnome 3... Unity is shit
[19:41] <bigterd> matju, it also means i don't care of being 1337 with fancy whatever anything. i just want a simple window manager to browse the web and open multiple terminals for ssh'ing.
[19:42] <bigterd> and let my CPU crunch importnant numbers instead of drawing window shadows and soft edged fonts.
[19:42] <ivoid_> hi is it possible to get wireless working on 10.10 with b43legacy? ubuntu asks me to install the proprietary drivers (WL STA Broadcom) but i don't want to cause they don't support monitor mode.
[19:42] <bobo37773> GummyBear: yep. outdated, old, dead. no more support. all new applications are gtk+. I dont mean ubuntu support I mean gnome support. and I agree. I hate unity and gnome3. really user preference though
[19:42] <RamtinA> My partitions are not avalible for mount anyone know what should i do?
[19:42] <matju> bobo37773: well no, I haven't tried XFCE, I'm more worried about why would the default choice for a desktop environment would be something in which Alt+tab is crippled, scrollbars are crippled, ui options are crippled, app menus are crippled and themes are crippled.
[19:43] <GummyBear> ivoid_: demand your provider
[19:43] <bigterd> matju, sounds like you need to move to microsoft :P
[19:43] <bobo37773> matju: Sounds like you are using regular ubuntu hahahaha. try xubuntu. youll see
[19:44] <ivoid_> GummyBear: so there's no hack to get around it? actually i tried "airmon-ng start eth1" and i can get monitor mode with WL. but kismet doesn't accept WL.
[19:44] <bigterd> ha, gnome, what's that?
[19:44] <matju> bobo37773: *Nope* ! it sounds like GNOME is doing their best to make microsoft look like a good idea.
[19:44] <bobo37773> matju: I hope so. The larger the community gets the worse we will be in the end anyways. guaranteed
[19:44] <matju> bobo37773: oops, replied to the wrong person
[19:45] <GummyBear> ivoid_: where I cannot use some thing in some way, I follow a simple criteria: switching to another hardware that supports what I want. Fast, easy, and reliable.
[19:45] <matju> bigterd: *Nope* ! it sounds like GNOME is doing their best to make microsoft look like a good idea.
[19:45] <bobo37773> hehe
[19:45] <ivoid_> GummyBear: lol i would love to do this too, but i am on a Macbook Pro 7,1 so i'm kind of stuck ;p
[19:46]  * bigterd shrugs. i'm not a gui guy. only one of my 12 boxes has a gui. the one i browse the web with. 
[19:46] <bigterd> i'm using irssi for irc. all commandline
[19:46] <bpicozzi1> ciao
[19:46] <bobo37773> matju: If you are over the fancy effects and stuff. Try out a fast window manager that doesn't f**k around. Like --> awesome, openbox, fluxbox etc..
[19:46] <matju> bigterd: well, i don't think I deserve being told that what I want is Microsoft. Even as a joke.
[19:47] <dat789> hi
[19:47] <bigterd> haha, damn dude.
[19:47] <dat789> does anyone know how to set up video call on skype?
[19:47] <bigterd> but i thought windows7 was all pretty and fancy?
[19:47] <dat789> i've installed Skype successfully on Ubuntu
[19:47] <GummyBear> ivoid_: how much expensive a wireless card with direct monitor mode is? 20, 30 USD? money does interesting tricks... otherwise, if you want to follow the 'hard path' I would suggest you to try write your own driver
[19:47] <cfhowlett> dat789   you need to authorize the incoming, turn on your cam and go
[19:47] <C1T> hey guys i ve little problem hope you are able to help me, i have a ubuntu box with an ssh server and my laptop. now i want conntent to my box and write some script direct on the "workstation" with my laptop via ssh
[19:48] <dat789> cfhowlett, how do i authorize the incoming ?
[19:48] <dat789> cam is plugged in
[19:48] <cfhowlett> dat789   via pm?
[19:48] <C1T> what i ve to do that my laptop could change the files with gedit i.e. any idea or a workaround?
[19:49] <ivoid_> GummyBear: it's not the money, it's taking the hardware and making it stick to the MBP. i'm not experience enough for writing a driver (only know python, java)
[19:49] <dat789> ?what do you mean "via pm" ? sorry
[19:49] <matju> bobo37773: yeah, i'd rather have less special effects at this point... I might look into alternatives sooner or later, but nowadays I'd see that as a complication (whereas I used to be a fan of PWM, the tabbing window manager by the author of Ion).
[19:49] <cfhowlett> dat789   double click on my nickname to open private messaging
[19:49] <dat789> ah
[19:49] <GummyBear> ivoid_: bad thing... well... next
[19:50] <bobo37773> matju: oh cool. so you know what your doing. well I like openbox as a floating window manager and awesome as a tiling window manager. They seem to be the most popular choices.
[19:51] <matju> bobo37773: thanks for the hints.
[19:52] <matju> bye.
[19:52] <GummyBear> bobo37773: all is reduced to: use those in your taste... I taste Gnome2 and support isn't an issue for me... I generally need support for databases, software modules, IDE's, etc... Gnome2 window toolkit is mature for me and for now I do not use another one. When needed to upgade, I'll use another thing... badabing badaband
[19:52] <ivoid_> who can help with Macbook Pro trackpad problems? (gnome mouse preferences don't include trackpad even though i installed necessary packages, drivers, etc)
[19:53] <shnatsel> ikonia: sorry to bother you, one last question: what's wrong with setting up a local repo and then uploading some additional packages there? a risk of diverted changelogs messing up everything?
[19:54] <shnatsel> ikonia: you seem to be right - there seems to be no other sane way to merge repos.
[19:54] <Atlantic777> do I have to have all packages up to date to do release upgrade?
[19:54] <ikonia> shnatsel: package conflicts and dependencies, plus you'll need to re-generate the package list for the repo
[19:55] <shnatsel> ikonia: what if I regenerate the package list, and dependencies are always satisfied? (I think I can do a consistency check or something)
[19:56] <ivoid_> who can help with Macbook Pro trackpad problems? (gnome mouse preferences don't include trackpad even though i installed necessary packages, drivers, etc)
[19:56] <ikonia> shnatsel: I didn't say satisfied, I said conflict
[19:56] <ikonia> shnatsel: thats why I said you'll have to manually check for compatability all packages and their dependencies
[19:57] <ivoid_> who can help with Macbook Pro trackpad problems? (gnome mouse preferences don't include trackpad even though i installed necessary packages, drivers, etc)
[19:58] <shnatsel> ikonia: so I can get a situation where some packages are not installable because packages can depend on old version that's no longer available?
[19:58] <reisio> man, going over 700MB is just killing me to death
[19:58] <ivoid_> exit
[19:59] <ivoid_> exit()
[19:59] <reisio> there will be no forgiveness for this! :p
[19:59] <ikonia> shnatsel: or you put a new version of a libray in the repo say version 2.2 instead of the existing 1.8 - and the package that wants 1.8 has a dependency of 1.7 OR greater, so it will install 2.1, which doesn't work and breaks everything
[19:59] <ikonia> sorry 2.2
[19:59] <ikonia> shnatsel: basically - "don't do this"
[19:59] <shnatsel> ikonia: thanks. got it.
[19:59] <Atlantic777> let me ask again
[19:59] <Atlantic777> do I have to have all packages up to date to do release upgrade?
[20:00] <ikonia> Atlantic777: yes
[20:01] <Atlantic777> ikonia: thanks...
[20:02] <kpas_> I have an issue with my NVIDIA drivers  -  after upgrading to 11;10 from 11:04
[20:02] <CharminTheMoose> How necessary are the /lib/modules/<version>/kernel/drivers/char/agp and /lib/modules/<version>/kernel/drivers/gpu for displaying boot splash screens? Can't vesa/vga16fb be used instead?
[20:03] <kpas_> When selecting X Server Display Configuration
[20:03] <bobo37773> GummyBear: Yeah I get that. I used to love gnome2 back in 10.04 days. I was pretty heartbroken at the time. Your right though to each their own I guess
[20:03] <kpas_> I get the following -  Unable to load X Server Display configuration page:
[20:04] <kpas_> any suggestionS
[20:04] <slackguru> I recently followed the instructions located @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OverSSH successfully and am wondering if someone gan give me a minimal list of packages to complete a system that will boot a graphical interface
[20:05] <bobo37773> kpas_: are you using nvidia-settings-manager?
[20:05] <slackguru> The system will be a standard desktop used by my wife so it doesn't have to be extravagant
[20:05] <kpas_> bobo37773, you mean the GUI interface for NV...
[20:05] <bobo37773> kpas_: yeah. It should say what its called in title
[20:06] <bobo37773> kpas_: are you running it as sudo?
[20:06] <kpas_> bobo37773, yes NVIDIA X server Settings
[20:06] <bobo37773> kpas_: and you are getting an x display not found? can you see monitors?
[20:07] <kpas_> bobo37773,  I am also getting Failed to Query NoScanout for screen 0
[20:08] <bobo37773> kpas_: what are you trying to do exactly? set your resolution or something?
[20:08] <slackguru> In following the instructions @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OverSSH I chose to install a lucid system and used the generic pae kernel and all is running well. I went this direction because I could not get a boot cd to operate properly on that machine no matter how slowly I burnt the cd.
[20:08] <kpas_> bobo37773, Well in 11:04 I was running in twim mode with no issues
[20:08] <kpas_> bobo37773, not it won't boot it will get stuck
[20:09] <kpas_> bobo37773, so i copied my orig xorg.conf to boot up
[20:09] <Guest55112> hi iam from iran
[20:09] <kpas_> bobo37773, I want to go back to twin mode
[20:09] <Guest55112> please speak english
[20:10] <bobo37773> kpas_: oh I see. Multiple monitors. hmm regenerate your xorg with nvidia settings. close nvidia settings and open a terminal and type -->    sudo nvidia-xconfig
[20:10] <Guest55112> please speak english zay
[20:11] <kpas_> bobo37773, okay let me try
[20:11] <bobo37773> kpas_: after that reboot and see if that it what you wanted. if not run "sudo nvidia-settings" and make changes and save them to new xorg file.
[20:12] <bobo37773> kpas_: I am no expert on twinview but thats how I configure my monitor
[20:12] <kpas_> bobo37773, okay rebooting now
[20:12] <goodtime>  does anyone know how to find a driver for graffics?
[20:12] <bobo37773> kpas_: ok Ill be here
[20:13] <goodtime> i have intergradeed graffics and it doesnt seem to be working
[20:13] <Guest55112> goodtime hello
[20:13] <goodtime> hello
[20:13] <bobo37773> goodtime: maybe telling us what type of graphics card would help
[20:13] <RamtinA> how can i set ubuntu to mount partition automatic at startup?
[20:13] <goodtime> Sysinfo for 'goodtime-OptiPlex-745': Linux 3.0.0-16-generic running , CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz at 2992 MHz (5985 bogomips), HD: 133/456GB, RAM: 1571/2003MB, 155 proc's, 2.40h up
[20:13] <Guest55112> i tell you a link for graphic and other driver soon
[20:14] <Guest55112> please wait
[20:14] <goodtime> ok ill wait :)
[20:14] <bobo37773> goodtime: --> lspci | grep -i vga
[20:15] <Guest55112> goodtime please wait 10 minut
[20:15] <Guest55112> thanks
[20:15] <goodtime> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[20:16] <bobo37773> goodtime: there you go
[20:16] <goodtime> ty
[20:16] <kpas_> bobo37773, I cons chaned but still getting the same error
[20:16] <amirsabree> hey
[20:16] <bobo37773> goodtime: what version of ubuntu?
[20:16] <goodtime> 11.10
[20:17] <amirsabree> can someone help me plz
[20:17] <bobo37773> kpas_: it was an overscannign issue right?
[20:17] <slackguru> So does anyone have suggestions for my situation?
[20:17] <kpas_> bobo37773, I still have the same issue
[20:17] <bobo37773> kpas_: is it booting now without getting stuck?
[20:17] <slackguru> recently ran apt-get install ubuntu-standard
[20:18] <kpas_> bobo37773, yes
[20:18] <bobo37773> kpas_: cool. so what is the other issue? I dont remember
[20:18] <letalcreek> hi all
[20:18] <kpas_> bobo37773, want to run in twin mode
[20:18] <bobo37773> amirsabree: letalcreek ask your questions
[20:18] <amirsabree> can someone help me run a workin versiion on oovoo
[20:19] <amirsabree> or can you help me turn my computer into windows 7
[20:19] <bobo37773> kpas_: oh yeah. twinview. open a terminal and type -> sudo nvidia-settings            isn't there an option for twinview in there?
[20:19] <letalcreek> i want to know why i cant run cheese webcam in xubuntu
[20:19] <letalcreek> someone knows?
[20:19] <kpas_> bobo37773,  k hold
[20:20] <bobo37773> letalcreek: is cheese installed?
[20:20] <letalcreek> yeah
[20:20] <goodtime> so that meens that it found the driver right bobo37773 because with that command you gave me wasnt a install right?
[20:20] <letalcreek> but wont run at all
[20:20] <kpas_> bobo37773, yes there shoudl be under X Server Display COnfiguration
[20:21] <Mr> hello everyone
[20:21] <bobo37773> letalcreek: does the program load but no video?
[20:21] <kpas_> bobo37773, but when I click I get -  Unable to load X Server Display configuration page
[20:21] <liminal> hello
[20:21] <letalcreek> no, doesnt load
[20:22] <Luis-G> hi, could I get any help on installing android sdk on Eclipse on my ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu.com/849097/
[20:22] <liminal> can you run ubuntu images on AWS still wtihin the free teir?>
[20:22] <bobo37773> kpas_: yeah I dont know. that doesn't make any sense to me. you just created an xorg so its there
[20:23] <kpas_> bobo37773, also under that sentence it states
[20:23] <kpas_> bobo37773, Failed to query NoScanout for screen 0
[20:24] <crazydip> is it possible for me to copy a package from one ppa to a second ppa if that second ppa had that package previously deleted? it's been 2 hours since the delete and I'm getting "binaries conflicting with the existing ones" error
[20:25] <samthewildone> Whats the best pdf editor ?
[20:25] <samthewildone> for linux
[20:25] <kpas_> bobo37773, I think I know what is happening it is picking up my other monitors screen rate
[20:26] <kpas_> bobo37773, Going to remove that monitor and do xconfig and boot only wiht monitor attached
[20:27] <OerHeks> crazydip, do you own the ppa ?
[20:27] <crazydip> samthewildone, depends on your needs: check out pdfmod, pdfedit, pdfshuffler and pdfsam
[20:27] <crazydip> OerHeks, I own the second ppa that I want to copy too, I do not own the first ppa that has the package I wish to copy
[20:28] <crazydip> samthewildone, all 4 programs are free and in the software center
[20:28] <slackguru> Luis-G, You have several versions of the International Components for Unicode for Java selected in your choices of software components to install in eclipse. Choose only the ONE that works for the other components you have installed.
[20:28] <OerHeks> crazydip, you can copy any package to your 'own', but you had an error, which i would not neglect.
[20:28] <slackguru> Luis-G, You may want to deselect ALL International Components for Unicode for Java until you get the ADT installed properly
[20:29] <slackguru> Then you can revisit the International Components for Unicode for Java selections and choose which is best for you
[20:29] <Luis-G> ok, slackguru , I'll givit a try
[20:29] <Luis-G> *give it
[20:30] <bobo37773> kpas_: okay
[20:31] <crazydip> OerHeks, what do you mean? error makes no sense to me, because that package no longer exists in my ppa, so why is there a binary conflict? I'm trying to  copy using the "copy existing binaries" option
[20:31] <slackguru> Has anyone done an install of ubuntu through unconventional methods?
[20:31] <Steevca> I have used braser to burn a .iso image to DVD disc,but it stoped,it's crating a image checksum 31% done.Can i remove the disc from the tray without damage,or what should i do?
[20:31] <kpas_> bobo37773, nope same
[20:31] <bobo37773> kpas_: weird. nvidia module is loaded right?
[20:32] <kpas_> bobo37773, it is showing the qrong screen rate fro my monitor
[20:32] <bobo37773> kpas_: yeah but the right module is loading right>
[20:32] <GCS> Who is in charge if I ask a sync from Debian packages to Ubuntu?
[20:33] <kpas_> bobo37773, xorg.conf has my max at 1600x1200 when it should only be 1440x900
[20:33] <kpas_> bobo37773, how can I tell if the right mod loaded
[20:33] <pangolin> GCS: I think people in #ubuntu-motu can answer/help with that
[20:33] <jeanpaul145> hi y'all
[20:34] <nobitanobi> What is the correct process of resizing the root partition? I want to make it bigger and get space from the /home partition. I know I need to boot from a different place than the hard drive I want to resize and I'm planning on using Gparted. But what is the process-order?
[20:34] <bobo37773> kpas_: lsmod | grep nvidia
[20:34] <jeanpaul145> I'm trying to install the Android Developer Tools on 11.10, but ia32-libs is very very broken
[20:34] <kpas_> bobo37773,  nvidia               5654624  22
[20:35] <jeanpaul145> is there any workaround? I'm (logically) getting ELFCLASS64 errors
[20:35] <bobo37773> kpas_: yep. and in your xorg it should say driver "nvidia"
[20:35] <kpas_> bobo37773, yes it does
[20:36] <corim> fixed the issue with unity being disabled...
[20:36] <bobo37773> kpas_: yeah I dont know what to tell you then. is your system completely up to date?
[20:36] <corim> had to create a new user as administrater and delete the old admin account
[20:36] <nobitanobi> I have the SWAP between my / partition and my /home partition. How can I give some space from the /home partition to the / partition?
[20:37] <Companion> I object!
[20:37] <kpas_> bobo37773, I just upgraded from 11:04 to 11:10  - I wonder if it is a conflict with the Ubuntu default display manager
[20:37] <OerHeks> jeanpaul145, Ubuntu 11.10 enables “multiarch” support for installing 32-bit library and application packages on 64-bit systems
[20:37] <Companion> OerHeks, lies multiarch was alwais available in linux
[20:37] <Companion> OerHeks, from 07.04 multiarch was possible
[20:38] <OerHeks> Companion, without IA32libs
[20:38] <corim> Kpas i always find its best to do a fresh install instead of upgrading and just back up importent files
[20:38] <Companion> OerHeks, steal em from a diff repo
[20:38] <jeanpaul145> OerHeks: how do i enable it then? the errors clearly mean it's disabled by default
[20:38] <Companion> OerHeks, or compile them your self :)
[20:38] <Companion> jeanpaul145, tail -f /var/logs/syslog.log
[20:39] <kpas_> bobo37773, I can get twin display to work -  however I have to go into recovery mode then select a previous linux distribution
[20:40] <jeanpaul145> Companion: that path doesn't exist. I can do a tail -f /var/log/syslog though, if that'd help
[20:40] <Companion> jeanpaul145, srry /var/log :p
[20:41] <Companion> jeanpaul145, when having a problem try to give detailed information such as logs/outputs/background
[20:41] <Companion> jeanpaul145, I am no expert but it helps ;)
[20:42] <jeanpaul145> Companion: I know, but I don't know off the top of my head which log is useful here. There's a whole collection of 'em. But a tail on /var/log/syslog only talks about my sensord
[20:42] <Companion> jeanpaul145, you need syslog ;)
[20:43] <jeanpaul145> Companion: ok, I'll do a tail and verify
[20:43] <Companion> jeanpaul145, please describe the problem your having and what you are trying
[20:43] <d__> hi GOODTIME
[20:44] <d__> HI goodtime
[20:44] <kjs1> anyone know of a decent VPS host in USA?
[20:44] <ikonia> kjs1: not something this channel can help with, lots out there
[20:44] <jeanpaul145> Companion: I installed Eclipse, the ADT, and the ADT development stuff (installable from within thr ADT). Installation goes fine, but trying to run an Android Virtual Device results in an error message: "/home/j/Development/android-sdk-linux//tools/emulator: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[20:45] <Companion> kjs1, I know an excelent in the UK btw
[20:45] <goodtime> hello d__
[20:45] <d__> hi goodtime
[20:45] <goodtime> hello d__
[20:45] <jeanpaul145> Companion: But obviously I have the so installed (I even checked)
[20:45] <kjs1> Companion: whom ?
[20:45] <Companion> jeanpaul145, you're still missing one ;)
[20:45] <d__> i come here thanks for wating
[20:45] <Companion> kjs1, hang on
[20:45] <Luis-G> slackguru, where should I deselect ICU's?
[20:45] <jeanpaul145> Companion: Which one?
[20:46] <d__> i tell you any ides for solve graphics problems
[20:46] <Companion> kjs1, openitc
[20:46] <safa> how to istall gcc. using 10.11, here is the error. Missing REQUIRED dependency: gcc (gcc - GNU Project C and C++ Compiler)\
[20:46] <Companion> jeanpaul145, lemme figure it out don't know packages for ubuntu since I run arch :P
[20:46] <d__> goodtime ready for it
[20:46] <Companion> safa, build-essentials
[20:47] <jeanpaul145> Companion: lol ok
[20:47] <goodtime> maybe you should pm me d__
[20:47] <d__> i gest55112
[20:47] <Companion> jeanpaul145, out of my head its apt-cache search libstdc
[20:48] <safa> Companion: how to do that, iam not expert brother.
[20:48] <Companion> there you should get the options to install libstdc++
[20:48] <d__> goodtime please try these:go to start menu> select system menu > select administration >
[20:48] <d__> select hardwre drivers
[20:48] <d__> it will scan your computer and then fine driver you needed and download automatically
[20:48] <d__> for you
[20:48] <d__> note: you need internet connection
[20:48] <d__> please go to internet browser and go to "www.diveridentifier.com"
[20:48] <FloodBot1> d__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:48] <Companion> safa, you got pacman right?
[20:48] <Companion> eh
[20:48] <Companion> apt-get
[20:48] <Companion> safa, apt-get install build-essentials
[20:48] <bobo37773> Companion: haha fail
[20:48] <goodtime> ok ty d__
[20:48] <Companion> bobo37773, what? :P
[20:49] <bobo37773> Companion: pacman?
[20:49] <Companion> bobo37773, yea even on my ubuntu or debian servers
[20:49] <safa> Companion: E: Unable to locate package build-essentials
[20:49] <Companion> I type pacman instead of apt :p
[20:49] <bobo37773> Companion: hahaha best alias ever
[20:49] <Companion> *sigh* safa give me a sec
[20:49] <RamtinA> how can i mount USB?
[20:49] <safa> Companion: ok.
[20:49] <Companion> safa, -s
[20:50] <Companion> safa, should be: build-essential
[20:50] <jeanpaul145> Companion: I'll check
[20:50] <Companion> jeanpaul145, alright
[20:50] <Companion> bobo37773, its no alias its a package manager :0
[20:50] <Companion> RamtinA, open nautilius
[20:51] <eggzeck> safa: don't forget to add "sudo" to that apt-get command :-)
[20:51] <bobo37773> Companion: you installed pacman on a debian system?
[20:51] <Companion> bobo37773, no my home pc is Archlinux
[20:51] <Companion> my servers vary from debian to gentoo ubuntu arch slackware etc
[20:51] <RamtinA> Companion: i know , but this is new problem.when i connect usb don't show it in nautilus and don't mount it :|
[20:51] <bobo37773> Companion: oh yeah okay
[20:52] <safa> Companion: eggzeck build essential done. but still same eror for printer installation
[20:52] <Companion> RamtinA, hmmmm
[20:52] <Companion> safa, give me an output of your compilation
[20:52] <Companion> safa, your missing libs ;)
[20:52] <Companion> RamtinA, do: fdisk -l
[20:52] <Companion> locate the usb device
[20:53] <Companion> RamtinA, locate the usb device by size then: mount vfat /dev/device /path/to/mountpoint
[20:53] <safa> Companion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/849136/
[20:54] <Companion> safa, apt-get install python-devel
[20:54] <Companion> safa, it tells in the logs :p
[20:54] <kpas_> bobo37773, I manually fixed one issue
[20:54] <bobo37773> kpas_: kernel update?
[20:54] <Companion> bobo37773, I got a nice truecrypt alias tho :P
[20:55] <kpas_> bobo37773, oh crap
[20:55] <vlt> Hello. I installed Ubuntu Oneiric, and now my neighbours hate me. I need help with audio volume settings. Everytime I login my audio volume is set to 100 %, no matter what I select in lightdm's login screen. Any idea how to fix this?
[20:55] <bobo37773> Companion: nice hehehe pacman -Syu fo life hehe
[20:55] <safa> Companion: Unable to locate package python-devel
[20:55] <kpas_> bobo37773, I upgraded but did not do an apt update
[20:55] <Companion> bobo37773, to mount with truecrypt you have to type: fuckthesystem -o /dev/sdb2 /media/tc
[20:55] <RamtinA> Companion:  http://pastebin.com/HRvUBhQQ
[20:55] <bobo37773> Companion: hahahaha
[20:56] <oCean> Companion: control your language here, please
[20:56] <Companion> RamtinA, python-dev
[20:56] <Companion> oCean, srry its just an alias...
[20:56] <bobo37773> kpas_: what is an apt update? what do you mean? how did you update your kernel?
[20:56] <oCean> Companion: not welcome here
[20:56] <kpas_> bobo37773, no I did not update the Kernel -  apt-get update
[20:56] <Companion> oCean, srry
[20:56] <Companion> RamtinA, your usb drive is 4gb?
[20:56] <Ny51bern> hey guys. im dual booting windows xp and ubuntu 11...how can i get rid of the XP partition and just run straight up ubuntu?
[20:57] <kpas_> bobo37773, I man changed the xorg.conf and put in the right display settings
[20:57] <RamtinA> Companion:  i don't know
[20:57] <bobo37773> kpas_: yeah update your kernel. if it is a kernel issue (which it sounds like) that may fix it.
[20:57] <kpas_> bobo37773, but no twin mode
[20:57] <sobakaforte> could anyone help me with a headphones sound issue?
[20:57] <kpas_> bobo37773, how would I do that
[20:57] <bobo37773> kpas_: you said in fallback kernel it works right?
[20:57] <cfhowlett> Ny51bern   liveboot an ubuntu cd, delete xp, resize your buntu and done.
[20:57] <Companion> RamtinA, my gues its 4gb do the following: mkdir /dev/media/usb
[20:57] <kpas_> bobo37773, well yes
[20:57] <Companion> RamtinA, mount vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/usb
[20:58] <kpas_> bobo37773, so how can I tell if I have the latest kernal
[20:58] <bobo37773> kpas_: okay update your whole system. do you see any kernel updates? as in -->      sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:58] <d__> hi goodtime can you resolve your problem with graphic card
[20:58] <Companion> RamtinA, do use sudo before the commands tho ;)
[20:58] <RamtinA> Companion: Thank you but the name is sdb1  why?
[20:58] <kpas_> bobo37773, yes I just did that and -  Reading state information... Done
[20:58] <kpas_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:59] <Companion> RamtinA, because thats the system its point
[20:59] <Ny51bern> cfhowlett: just click to delete the xp parition.. is that gna mess with grub?
[20:59] <d__> hi goodtime can you resolve your problem with graphic card
[20:59] <Companion> RamtinA, each drive you connect gets called: sda sdb sdc etc
[20:59] <bobo37773> kpas_: hmm. maybe try a 3rd party ppa for the stable kernel
[20:59] <cfhowlett> for best results, do all the partitioning stuff then reinstall grub.
[20:59] <Companion> RamtinA, same as for windows with: C: D: E:
[20:59] <kpas_> bobo37773, ah I am not worried -  I am thinking a bad upgrade -
[20:59] <goodtime> yes d__
[20:59] <RamtinA> Companion: so how can i replace it with drive name?
[21:00] <Companion> RamtinA, you can't
[21:00] <bobo37773> kpas_: maybe I dont know. wait are you saying that you did a distrobution upgrade?
[21:00] <d__> ok goodbye
[21:00] <Companion> RamtinA, its like padding on windows, it choses first available ;)
[21:00] <kpas_> bobo37773, I'll just install gnome and nextweek wipe my machine out and start over
[21:00] <RamtinA> Companion: but it was true until 30 min before
[21:00] <kpas_> !nounity
[21:00] <bobo37773> kpas_: did this happen because you did a distrobution upgrade?
[21:00] <Companion> RamtinA, how do you mean?
[21:00] <kpas_> bobo37773, correct
[21:00] <d__> i am happy goodtime for this goodbye
[21:00] <Companion> RamtinA, oh its called USB?
[21:01] <kpas_> bobo37773, hold someone at the door
[21:01] <Ny51bern> cfhowlett: is there a how-to u can reference me too?
[21:01] <Ny51bern> cfhowlett: just dont want to mess this up..
[21:01] <faenil> hi guys
[21:01] <faenil> can anybody help me configure hostapd?
[21:01] <cfhowlett> Ny51bern   waiit 1...
[21:01] <goodtime> ty d__
[21:01] <RamtinA> Companion: that was normal when i connect my USB that mount my USB with it's name but now ...
[21:01] <Ny51bern> cfhowlett: i tried googling some stuff. couldnt find anything solid
[21:01] <bobo37773> kpas_: ah. it all makes sense now. yeah ubuntu is not really rolling release. I would never reccomend updating versions without a clean install. despite what people say or how easy they try to make it.
[21:01] <Companion> RamtinA, its cause it is mounted to that directory no worries its not permanemt
[21:02] <Companion> RamtinA, when its unmounted it should have on a windows system its normal name ;)
[21:03] <Ny51bern> cfhowlett: to be honest i want to delete all of ubuntu and xp and then start new with ubuntu
[21:03] <RamtinA> Companion: thank you so much . but i think i could undrestand your mind without windows examples :P :)) i don't like windows at all
[21:03] <Companion> RamtinA, np :)
[21:03] <cfhowlett> Ny51bern   had a thought.  best way of all is to clean install.  If there's nothing critical on your /home or if you've already backed it, just re-install
[21:03] <Companion> RamtinA, I know allot by Windows since Ive been a MSDN developer and been the black sheep for running Slackware :P
[21:04] <Ny51bern> cfhowlett: yeah everything is backed up so im not worried abt losing anything... how to do a clean install? just put in a live cd and click install?
[21:04] <Companion> RamtinA, And most ubuntu users are from windows thats why I used it as example
[21:04] <Ny51bern> cfhowlett: and when prompted select the entire harddrive?
[21:04] <cfhowlett> Ny51bern   I'd suggest you download the latest 10.04.4 ubuntu and work with that.
[21:05] <kpas_> bobo37773, well I can alway go back to 11:04
[21:05] <Ny51bern> cfhowlett:  why not 11?
[21:05] <kpas_> bobo37773, right
[21:05] <Ny51bern> cfhowlett: i kinda like 11 :)
[21:05] <bobo37773> kpas_: yeah of course
[21:05] <cfhowlett> Ny51bern   nvrmind - I only boot LTS , so Im on 10.04 until 12.4 is released
[21:06] <god-zotac> kpas_:: why downgrade when you have alternatives to unity?
[21:06] <bobo37773> god-zotac: very good point
[21:06] <Ny51bern> cfhowlett: okay.. but i can do the same tihng with 11? ill put in the live cd and reinstall fresh from there?
[21:06] <cfhowlett> Ny51bern   right
[21:06] <kpas_> god-zotac, yeah I will install gnome in a bit
[21:06] <jeanpaul145> Companion: I checked. There's a whole list. I tried installing libstdc++-dev, but apparently it's already installed
[21:06] <kpas_> !nounity
[21:06] <Ny51bern> cfhowlett: awesome.. thanks for your help
[21:07] <cfhowlett> Ny51bern   have fun/be safe
[21:07] <god-zotac> kpas_:: xfce might be a more classical feel without all the overwhelming new interfaces.. just a thought
[21:08] <kpas_> god-zotac, yes I ran that on an old laptop.  neen runing gnome since 8.xxx like the fell so
[21:08] <god-zotac> kpas_:: xfce can look and feel almost just like gnome 2.x,  xfce doesn't make drastic changes to the UI either, i have used it as my primary desktop environment for over 5 yrs and it hasn't changed very much at all
[21:08] <Companion> jeanpaul145, try: apt-get cache libstdc++
[21:08] <Luis-G> thanks slackguru, i've figured it out
[21:08] <kpas_> god-zotac, the question is gmone3 or older
[21:08] <Companion> jeanpaul145, libstdc++6 should be the package you need
[21:09] <kpas_> peaceout have to run to the music store
[21:09] <god-zotac> kpas_:: or openbox + gnome-panel might be an idea ;)
[21:09] <bobo37773> kpas_: later
[21:09] <god-zotac> cya kpas_
[21:09] <jeanpaul145> Companion: it's already installed
[21:10] <bobo37773> god-zotac: openbox + xfce4-panel
[21:10] <Lint> god-zotac, it just cannot because it has 1,5 developers
[21:10] <god-zotac> or that too
[21:10] <jeanpaul145> Companion: it was by default, I think
[21:10] <god-zotac> Lint:: ??
[21:10] <Guest5073> salve
[21:10] <Guest5073> !lista
[21:11] <Lint> if you want real improvement in performance you should use something like fluxbox
[21:11] <god-zotac> how is fluxbox going to be an improvement in performance over openbox?
[21:11] <Lint> on the other hand, it's usablity is beyound terrible
[21:11] <Companion> jeanpaul145, whats the output again?
[21:12] <god-zotac> openbox is practically fluxbox without the fluxbox dock
[21:12] <jeanpaul145> a whole list of packages
[21:13] <jeanpaul145> Companion: a whole list of packages, 41 to be precies
[21:13] <Companion> jeanpaul145, you sound dutch :p
[21:13] <Companion> found your output line hang on
[21:13] <RenatoSilva> I've downloaded Ubuntu iso, now how can I make it boot from there? I'm in windows 7, I have a pendrive
[21:13] <forbin_> hello
[21:13] <forbin_> news.
[21:13] <forbin_> oops
[21:13] <jeanpaul145> Companion: I speak the language fluently :P
[21:13] <cfhowlett> RenatoSilva   ubuntu is installed on teh pendrive?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: MD5 test it then use unetbootin
[21:14] <forbin_> It's headed down to LIttle Rock
[21:14] <RenatoSilva> cfhowlett: no
[21:14] <forbin_> Maybe.
[21:14] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: Microsoft has a proprietary usb boot drive software, similar to unetbootin
[21:14] <jeanpaul145> Companion: but it was a typo
[21:14] <forbin_> jot
[21:14] <forbin_> down
[21:14] <forbin_> the
[21:14] <oCean> forbin_: this is the Ubuntu support channel, what are you talking about?
[21:14] <forbin_> snake
[21:14] <FloodBot1> forbin_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:14] <RenatoSilva> ok so it really narrows down to flagging the usb stick as bootable, meh
[21:15] <god-zotac> no.. you don't have to do that
[21:15] <Companion> jeanpaul145, try: ln -s /lib/libstdc++.so /lib/libstdc++.so.6
[21:15] <Companion> and try again
[21:15] <Promethes> why adding ppa through software sources is broken in 11.10? For years it worked, now after adding any ppa i see alot gpg errors. Can someone tell me why this is not fixed?
[21:15] <RenatoSilva> I've noticed wubi in included in the iso, is it worth executing? I don't want it to keep in add/remove programs list
[21:15] <god-zotac> you really just need to copy the image to the full usb pen drive including the boot sector
[21:15] <RenatoSilva> I've extracted the iso, that's how I get access to wubi
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: I'd use a true install. Its easier to work wit
[21:15] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: hang on i will find the software that works good with windows and link you
[21:15] <cfhowlett> RenatoSilva   wubi is not a long term installation soluton
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: you never extract the iso
[21:16] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: no no please
[21:16] <playit> hey, I really need help setting up samba.. Last time I tried on another operating system I broke it following sketch guides
[21:16] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: I don't want to use tools for this simple task
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> playit: sudo apt-get install samba
[21:16] <Lint> RenatoSilva, take the wubi executable and it whould be able to locarte iso file
[21:16] <cfhowlett> 53cr3t5quirr31
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> playit: you can then use nautilus to share folders
[21:16] <cfhowlett> oops
[21:16] <playit> ActionParsnip: its already installed i think
[21:16] <RenatoSilva> cfhowlett: how does it work exctly? can't it work just as a launcher for standalone installation?
[21:16] <Lint> secret squirrel?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> playit: the OS will tell you if it is:)
[21:17] <jeanpaul145> Companion: the symlink doesn't work. Maybe it helps if I say that I'm running Kubuntu? (Canonical pulled the only engineer working full-time off the project, sadly)
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: wubi installs ubuntu to a drive image file stored in NTFS, its fine as a try before you buy but as a long term thing its not great
[21:17] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: well MS doesn't come with many useful tools to do such a simple task.. its almost like there is no simple cli for lspci in windows without downloading 3rd party crap..
[21:17] <playit> i this normal for when i type in terminal 'samba'
[21:17] <playit> The program 'samba' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[21:17] <playit> sudo apt-get install samba4
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> playit: no, justsamba, not samba4
[21:18] <cfhowlett> RenatoSilva   wubi installs to the windows partition.  while living there ubuntu is subject to all the frag errors that ntfs is subject to.  Eventually, bad things are pretty much a given...
[21:18] <ondra_> Hello I have probably simple question about firewall, can anybody help me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/849169/  I can add some details if it 'll be necessary thx
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> !info samba
[21:18] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: ok thanks, ubuntu.com is not clear about that
[21:18] <Lint> cfhowlett, the file which isn't growing cannot get fragmented
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: use unetbootin and you can make a bootable USB to test the OS with as well as install from
[21:18] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: if you had dd then it would be as easy as dd if=c:\path\to\ubuntu.iso of=USBDISKID BS=1m
[21:18] <RenatoSilva> isn't it possible to boot from an specific iso? do modern bios allow this?
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: you can use WIndows 7 to resize its own NTFS partition to make free space to install to
[21:19] <cfhowlett> Lint  "Yes, I did wubi once.   ONCE!"
[21:19] <playit> ActionParsnip: so its normal for it to say that when I type in 'samba' in terminal
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: grub2 can boot the ISO but you will have windows boot loader which is rubbish
[21:19] <mongy> RenatoSilva: grub2 on the stick will boot iso
[21:19] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: you mean to select an iso in the bios to boot from that exist on a partition?
[21:19] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: I'm going to the yet somewhat working ubuntu installation now, so it's just unetbootin --help and I'll get there?
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> playit: samba   itself isn't a program to run
[21:19] <playit> ok
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: once you run unetbootin, you'll see what is going on
[21:20] <RenatoSilva> I have grub2 in my hdd
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> playit: it installs a service which you then configure
[21:20] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: yeah something like that
[21:20] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: if that feature exist with any modern bios /uefi firmwares i'd sure like to have it, as that would be handy as all get out
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: if you only have windows installed, you don't have grub2
[21:21] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: I just sound to have only windows
[21:21] <Companion> jeanpaul145, I would not know how to pull that off then : /
[21:21] <god-zotac> ActionParsnip:: easiest thing to do is just use unetbootin for windows..
[21:21] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: I've been upgrading since years I think a clear install is worth now
[21:21] <Companion> jeanpaul145, I got to head to bed cause I am tired D:
[21:21] <jeanpaul145> Companion: welterusten :)
[21:21] <jeanpaul145> en bedankt voor de moeite
[21:21] <Companion> jeanpaul145, np
[21:22] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: look what I've lost completely with oneiric (please do watch): http://www.videolog.tv/video.php?id=670508
[21:22] <oCean> jeanpaul145: there's #ubuntu-nl channel, in case you did not know
[21:22] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: or you can use this tool just the same:  http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2009/12/-the-usb-flash-drive.ars
[21:22] <Companion> jeanpaul145, check your pm
[21:23] <jeanpaul145> oCean: thanks
[21:23] <jeanpaul145> Companion: pm where? Ubuntuforums
[21:23] <RenatoSilva> how would I boot from iso within grub2?
[21:23] <Companion> jeanpaul145, no IRC :P
[21:23] <mongy> RenatoSilva: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: thats just some ubuntu desktop....so what?
[21:24] <RenatoSilva> mongy: tl;wr
[21:24] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: what do you mean
[21:25] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: that was natty, oneiric runied it
[21:25] <jayar> smb4k, samba, shares everythings set up right...
[21:25] <jayar> still cant see it
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: oh god not another "I hate unity". Am I right?
[21:25] <jayar> i used to be able to, now i cant
[21:25] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: no cube no custom theme no emerald (I KNOW about emerald)
[21:25] <ryan-c> can anyone help me figure out why policykit hates me and refuses to allow me to change anything in network manager?
[21:25] <danik> hello guys ive tried to use ssh via an authorized key and it works good then i tried another pc and this one didnt have the key but i still could login to my server
[21:26] <mongy> RenatoSilva: condensed, it's sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/USBFolderName /dev/sdx  to install grub and then make grub.cfg containing the relevant info.
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: lets repeat the same ol same ol;  Gnome is not the ONLY desktop. If you install XFCE and use that, it will act and run like that
[21:26] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: I'm sorry, what's your point exactly
[21:26] <ryan-c> Syslog unhelpfully reports: Feb 19 13:23:25 wowbagger polkitd(authority=local): Operator of unix-session:/org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session4 FAILED to authenticate to gain authorization for action org.freedesktop.network-manager-settings.system.modify for system-bus-name::1.476 [/usr/bin/nm-connection-editor] (owned by unix-user:ryanc)
[21:26] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: what do you mean like that
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: you can install xfce4 and logoff, log on to the xfce session and you can replace xfwin4 with compiz
[21:26] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: the point is just because something is "default" installed, doesn't mean you don't have the option to install what you prefer
[21:26] <ondra> Hello pls help this is probably simply question but I solve little more serious problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/849169/
[21:27] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: because I've been told it would be "like that" with gnome-shell or the fallback package
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: xfce is fully available in Oneiric and will look just like that video does
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: xfce will look and feel like gnome2
[21:27] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: take a look at Xubuntu screenshots for 11.10 or 12.04
[21:27] <mongy> RenatoSilva: xfce to me is more like gnome2 than gnome3-fallback.  but that's just me
[21:28] <god-zotac> you don't have to install Xubuntu to have that same desktop on Ubuntu..
[21:28] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: ok but I have a problem, through all trouble with oneiric I've deleted compiz config so how would be the steps? install xfce, then what? sorry
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: sudo apt-get --reinstall install compiz xfce4
[21:28] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: sudo apt-get install xfce
[21:28] <RenatoSilva> mongy: I didn't even try the fallback, gnome-shell is not ok
[21:29] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: what ActionParsnip said is correct, it is xfce4 not xfce
[21:29] <Lint> what happened with console-input package in 11.x?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: basically, you think Oneiric is Unity. Which isn't true at all, its a real ignorant view. Other desktops exist and you can get a desktop just like that video with no effort at all but you think 'oneiric spoiled it'....
[21:30] <mongy> RenatoSilva: install compiz and compizconfig-settings-manager and emerald if you want a nice windwo theme, otherwise you will need to set a metacity theme
[21:30] <Lint> !emerald
[21:30] <god-zotac> a lot of people assume that the desktop that comes with the iso they installed is what they are stuck with..
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> !info emerald oneiric
[21:30] <mongy> ActionParsnip: webupd8 ppa, forgot to mention
[21:30] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: then it's just start configuring in the settings manager and so forth? ok thanks, maybe I'll give it a try...(still thinking about using new gnome)...if so, do you know a reliable ppa to get emerald from? I downloaded one from google search but it didn't work in oneiric
[21:30] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: basically I think what?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: emerald is dead dude
[21:31] <Promethes> why adding ppa through software sources is broken in 11.10? For years it worked, now after adding any ppa i see alot gpg errors. Can someone tell me why this is not fixed?
[21:31] <mongy> ActionParsnip: might be, but it works fine here.
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: how has "oneiric runied it"?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> mongy: its not being developed or coded for for years now
[21:32] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: try compiz-fusion
[21:32] <mongy> ActionParsnip: 4 months ago
[21:32] <RenatoSilva> mongy: do you know how to use natty themes (gnome 2 themes I think) in oneiric? appearance manager just changed completely and that theme from the video (nuvoext icons + blue look etc) doesn't show in the list
[21:32] <mongy> ActionParsnip: and it works.  that's all that matter to me personally.
[21:33] <ryan-c> anyone know how the hell to debug policykit?
[21:33] <mongy> RenatoSilva: install gnome-tweak-tool
[21:33] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: I've seen a few hits for emerald in oneiric involving compiling it so I think its development is not dead in upstream
[21:33] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: you mean GTK2 themes or gtk+ themes?
[21:33] <mongy> RenatoSilva: oh gnome2 themes... I dont use gnome3/unity so no idea.
[21:33] <RenatoSilva> mongy: can I trust you, just install it and it will show me what to do?
[21:33] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: most new gnome apps use gtk+ which aren't the same as gtk2 themes.. try gtk-theme-switch pkg
[21:34] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: I mean gnome-appearance-<something> app in natty
[21:34] <god-zotac> !info gtk-theme-switch oneiric
[21:34] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: I'm sorry it's so many try this try that... I'm confused on the way to go
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> mongy: http://wiki.compiz.org/Decorators/Emerald   was last updated in March 2008? 4 years dead...
[21:34]  * RenatoSilva stops to think a bit
[21:35] <mongy> RenatoSilva: I use xfce and compiz and emerald, so no idea what gtk3 theme stuffs there are
[21:35] <Nmap> mm
[21:35] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: you want your look and appearance from natty but in oneiric? including compiz and themes? right?
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: so how has "oneiric ruined it"? exactly?
[21:35] <ondra__> Hello, anyone with little experience with firewall?
[21:35] <mongy> ActionParsnip: http://cgit.compiz.org/fusion/decorators/emerald      4 months
[21:35] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: so you speak for the whole web on that? Sorry but there's a git codebase in github iirc
[21:35] <eggzeck> ondra__: what's the question?
[21:36] <RenatoSilva> mongy: I just wanted to use my theme created in natty
[21:36] <god-zotac> i think you are confusing the appearance / gtk themes with the compiz window manager themes.. they are different things altogether
[21:36] <ondra__> eggzeck: http://paste.ubuntu.com/849169/
[21:36] <mongy> RenatoSilva: find a newer theme.
[21:36] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: that's one option, right
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> mongy: why is it not in the repos then?
[21:36] <RenatoSilva> mongy: I've written the theme
[21:36] <RenatoSilva> mongy: *created, but now it's incompatible
[21:37] <mongy> ActionParsnip: incompatibile with unity maybe?
[21:37] <mongy> ActionParsnip: no idea, but i use it and it works.
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> mongy: you donthave to use unity...
[21:37] <playit> ok it tells me i have the latest version of samba already but when I go to personal file sharing it tells me this feature is not enabled because the required packages are not installed on this system
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: http://askubuntu.com/questions/79923/how-to-install-emerald-theme-manager-and-dual-switch-between-emerald-themes-and    gets you emerald in Oneiric
[21:37] <RenatoSilva> mongy: but it's supposedly compatible with gnome-shell and/or the fallback stuff
[21:37] <god-zotac> no its not one option, your gtk theme is how the scroll bars, checkboxes, dialog background colors etc. appear.. which is in the settings > appearance, that you speak of.. the compiz/emerald themes are the style that only the outer edge of all your windows use, and the title bar.. i.e. (maximize, minimize, close  and the frame)
[21:37] <mongy> ActionParsnip: well, I compiled it before, but now there is a ppa, and I use it with no issues.  Just me
[21:38] <eggzeck> ondra__: That means there a NO policies in effect
[21:38] <LinuxUser2> hi anybody could tell me how i could kill the following processes? http://pastie.org/private/uxfyj8h1n7rct8ox8bgn1a "kill -9 pid" does not help :(
[21:38] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: will take a look at that link thanks
[21:38] <eggzeck> ondra__: Which means the NOTHING is being blocked by default
[21:38] <RenatoSilva> mongy: what ppa!
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: you still haven't answered my question....
[21:38] <eggzeck> ondra__: So iptables is not giving you the problem you're having (which I'm not sure yet what that is)
[21:39] <eggzeck> ondra__: What exactly is your problem?
[21:39] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: how oneiric ruined it?
[21:39] <mongy> ActionParsnip: I know I don't have to use unity, but I guess being canonical = unity and they have the repo's and decide not to bother maintaingin it.
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: yes...
[21:39] <mongy> maintaining*
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> mongy: you can use xfce and its just as supported in all the Ubuntu places
[21:39] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: i might rather try compiz + compiz-fusion from the native repositories instead of going with ppa's to get emerald working.. there is a reason emerald isn't in the repositories for oneiric ;)
[21:39] <mongy> RenatoSilva: webupd8 ppa
[21:39] <mongy> ActionParsnip: I do.
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> mongy: so canonical != unity
[21:40] <mongy> god-zotac: what reason?  I have not found it yet..
[21:40] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: you might try this:  sudo apt-get install compiz compiz-core compiz-fusion-plugins-main
[21:40] <mongy> ugh.  nevermind.  I use what I use and it works.  the end
[21:40] <RenatoSilva> mongy: yeah it seems whatever is responsible decided to not include it in the repos, or even forgot to do that (because in natty people used to point to oneiric source package stating that it would indeed be included in oneiric)
[21:41] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: given what I said, what reason?
[21:41] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: that apt line should get you compiz-fusion and the dependencies
[21:41] <RenatoSilva> mongy: oh that ppa, I found it in google but it didn't work in gnome-shell
[21:41] <RenatoSilva> mongy: I think it was gnome-shell what I tried it with
[21:41] <rhizmoe> none of my terminal colors are ever right. i think irssi and terminal are fighting
[21:42] <aspirinto> does any body know anything about iDeviceRestore?
[21:42] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: do you know the differences in compiz-fusion and emerald?  they both give you practically the same things.. desktop cube, snow,rain,fire desktop effects, transparency, snapping, etc
[21:42] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: emerald is just a decorator
[21:42] <mongy> RenatoSilva: I'm only saying to use emerald if you use something like xfce with compiz to have a nice decorator, otherwise you'd need to set compiz to use metacity with some flag I can hardly remember like --metacity-theme=something
[21:43] <god-zotac> actually emerald alone only controls the window decorations doesn't it?
[21:43] <mongy> god-zotac: it's window decorator yes
[21:43] <Kircle> ChromeOS has a nice window decorator.
[21:43] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: yes
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: still no reply yet...
[21:44] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: it's in the buffer waiting for flush...:)
[21:44]  * RenatoSilva confused
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: nice
[21:44] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: regardless of what you are wanting, with ubuntu, you are almost sure to find the binaries for the current release of practically anything you desire
[21:45] <RenatoSilva> mongy: why use metacity?
[21:45] <mongy> RenatoSilva: you'll find out if you use compiz and xfce
[21:45] <god-zotac> just add the apt repository that hosts emerald if thats what you want, apt-get update ; apt-get install emerald
[21:45] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: I'm confused right now on what I want exactly, processing info and deciding...
[21:45] <aspirinto1> does anybody know anything about iDeviceRestore?
[21:45] <RenatoSilva> mongy: can't you explain to me
[21:46] <mongy> RenatoSilva: explain what
[21:46] <god-zotac> i don't know why you'd want to use metacity if you are using compiz with xfce
[21:46] <mongy> RenatoSilva: sorry I'm half here half elsewhere
[21:46] <god-zotac> metacity doesn't have any better transparency than xfwm4 does
[21:46] <RenatoSilva> mongy: well ok nevermind
[21:47] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: you misread what he said
[21:48] <god-zotac> don't think i did. he mentioned using metacity with xfce if you don't want to use the compiz wm / emerald.. i just mentioned that xfwm4 works fine in that case without the need for metacity
[21:48] <mongy> RenatoSilva: setup a virtual machine and test
[21:49] <mongy> god-zotac: I meant using metacity as window themer
[21:49] <mongy> god-zotac: the compiz-gnome package
[21:49] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: well, in natty I had customized compiz along with a theme created in gnome-appearance-settings (or -manager, can't recall), and emerald decorator with a custom theme. After upgrade to oneiric it simply disappeared, all this, that's how it ruined it
[21:49] <RenatoSilva> mongy: oh no! lol
[21:49] <mongy> RenatoSilva: ?
[21:50] <jayar> ubuntu share drives help
[21:50] <yvj> #R
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: then install xfce and youwill be fine, it will still be Oneiric
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: you mean "Unity installed and wreked my settings"
[21:51] <god-zotac> your customized theme in gnome-appearance settings would have been your gtk theme, which can be applied with gtk-theme-switch that i mentioned earlier.. install emerald from the ppa that ActionParsnip mentioned. then import your old theme.. problem solved :)
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> RenatoSilva: Oneiric isn't Unity....
[21:52]  * mongy erases every mention of emerald..ugh
[21:52] <phpn00b> any one knows an app to track my time?
[21:52] <phpn00b> any one knows an app to track my time?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> phpn00b: time of what?
[21:53] <phpn00b> ActionParsnip, e.g. time sheets
[21:53] <webspyder> a clock lol
[21:53] <auronandace> phpn00b: why not use a clock
[21:53] <phpn00b> ActionParsnip, would like to track my productivity
[21:53] <phpn00b> auronandace, I want to keep records
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> phpn00b: so like a timer, see how long things take to happen
[21:53] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: problem is remembering gtk-theme-switch but ok
[21:53] <god-zotac> google tasks web app can do that can't it phpn00b
[21:53] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: ok considering that
[21:54] <phpn00b> god-zotac, I prefer to have it locally on my pc
[21:54] <s10an> exit
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> phpn00b: so you want to see how long a certain task takes?
[21:54] <god-zotac> phpn00b:: then find an app that syncs with google tasks, and then you will have it on your computer. im sure there are tons of them
[21:54] <uni4dfx> Is there an easy way to apt-get a 32-bit package on a 64bit system?
[21:55] <god-zotac> uni4dfx:: if there is a 32bit in the repos you can append :i386 to the end of the pkgname
[21:55] <phpn00b> ActionParsnip, I would like to know how productive I am e.g. over the last 2 weeks
[21:55] <y0om4> i want to be elevated to root but su - does not work even though i type in my password correctly. The password is the only one on the system
[21:55] <graft> uni4dfx: or just install the deb
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> phpn00b: productive in what way?
[21:55] <phpn00b> ActionParsnip, time spent on work
[21:55] <god-zotac> y0om4:: try sudo -s instead
[21:56] <uni4dfx> god-zotac nice, i didn't know about this
[21:56] <god-zotac> y0om4:: su  switches to root user,  sudo uses your current user privalidges from /etc/sudoers
[21:56] <Lint> what is 'update-apt-xapian' process and why it hogs my system?
[21:56] <god-zotac> y0om4:: if you don't have a root user password set thats why you can't do it..  you will need to do   sudo passwd first to create a root password
[21:56] <uni4dfx> But it depends on a whole lot of other 32bit libs... if i force install it will it put the 32bit stuff into /usr/lib32 and not mess up anything in /usr/lib ?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> !info stopwatch
[21:56] <Flannel> y0om4, god-zotac: there's no reason to set a root password.  Just use sudo instead.
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> phpn00b: ^ maybe
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> y0om4: just use:  sudo -i   and you will be root
[21:57] <god-zotac> Flannel:: of course there is reasons to use root.. not all people prefer sudo..
[21:57] <phpn00b> ActionParsnip, I don't need a timer. I only need an app to keep tracks of records and can build stats
[21:57] <treveor420> hey all, has anyone tried installing FOG (Free OpenSource Ghost) on ubuntu
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> phpn00b: how do you mean 'track records'?
[21:58] <kpas_> where does one get rid of the bottom toolbar using gnome-tweak-tool
[21:58] <treveor420> i am having an issue with the instll process... it keeps failing checking package Php5
[21:58] <god-zotac> Flannel:: i have been a system admin for 15+ yrs.. i can't stand using sudo for everything, and honestly it is an ubuntu thing not really a linux thing.. sudo isn't any more secure than su  imho
[21:58] <treveor420> i have installed LAMP
[21:58] <ikonia> god-zotac: then you should know su - rather than su
[21:58] <oeirerr> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[21:58] <Flannel> god-zotac: No, there's no real benefits to setting a root password, sudo can be used to do everything su can.
[21:58] <phpn00b> ActionParsnip, e.g. 20/02/2012: 8 hours @ work; 4 hours @ study
[21:58] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[21:58] <kingnebex> wts p guys............can any 1 help me out here im looking for 1 of the best torrent downloader
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: thre is no best torrent downloader in any OS
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> !torrents | kingnebex
[21:59] <mickster24> how do i get my normal nick back?
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> !torrents
[21:59] <mickster24> mickster04 is me!
[21:59] <jayar> is samba and smb4k the same thing? seems like they need to work together
[21:59] <god-zotac> Flannel:: i disagree with that. thats all im going to say about it
[22:00] <y0om4> i recalll being able to be elevated to root for the whole shell session, maybe i need to edit my /etc/group to add my only one user?
[22:00] <Lint> actually the mutorrent is
[22:00] <Bender__> Hello, excuse me but I have a problem with my mic-in imput. I was recording with audacity with line-in input and now I can't switch nomore to the mic-in. Neither skype or other software is able to do this and I'm forced to plug my mic in the line-in input :(
[22:00] <mattgandroid> i have xfce4 installed, and i cannot seem to find the directory for themes.  can anybody help me?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> y0om4: just use:  sudo -i    when you need it. Once the OS is setup its rare to use it
[22:00] <kingnebex> thanx ...ill b bck in a min
[22:00] <RenatoSilva> how can I boot an iso from grub2? sorry for offtopic but it's for installing ubuntu
[22:00] <god-zotac> y0om4:: are you in the wheel group ?
[22:00] <Lint> what is 'update-apt-xapian' process and why it hogs my system?
[22:00] <RenatoSilva> I want to boot from iso
[22:00] <Flannel> god-zotac: There is no wheel group.
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: the default OS comes with transmission
[22:01] <god-zotac> Flannel::  see.. point proven about ubuntu :)
[22:01] <Flannel> god-zotac: Just so you know, you're in #ubuntu.  If you can't help with Ubuntu, let other people handle it.
[22:01] <god-zotac> i do use it for a desktop system that i recently built, but i haven't got down and dirty with it that much
[22:01] <y0om4> god, there is no wheel group. there is a root group though
[22:01] <kpas_> wheel group is a redhat/centos thingy
[22:02] <y0om4> su -i gives me an error that it is not an option. -i is not an option
[22:02] <Flannel> y0om4, god-zotac: No, it's "admin", if this is the first user on the system, you're already in it.
[22:02] <god-zotac> wheel group isn't just redhat/centos thingy, it is a linux thingy
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> y0om4: sudo -i    not su
[22:02] <Flannel> y0om4: You want to use `sudo -i` not `su -i`
[22:02] <ikonia> y0om4: sudo -i not su -u
[22:02] <kpas_> god-zotac, well not in ubuntu
[22:03] <treveor420> is php5 the latest php version?
[22:03] <_Marcus> teveor420: Yes
[22:03] <almoxarife> Lint: xapian is a search database for apt, you need it if you use synaptic and like to search for apps
[22:03] <y0om4> okay, thanks
[22:03] <treveor420> do u know how to install it in Ubuntu... i tried sudo apt-get install php5
[22:03] <treveor420> but no package
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> !info php5
[22:04] <god-zotac> kpas_:: true, but ubuntu has kinda drifted away from what most would call linux,  yea it runs on linux kernel, but all linux base applications and everything has been modified and patched to its own needs so much it is like it isn't linux anymore ;)
[22:04] <_Marcus> treveor420: Do you want Apache, or just PHP
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> treveor420: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install php5
[22:04] <ikonia> god-zotac: stop talking nonsense please, if you don't like how ubuntu is setup don't use it
[22:04] <treveor420> _Marcus. both i have apache working ihad to installi it for another package
[22:04] <kpas_> god-zotac, agreeded but it is what it is
[22:04] <god-zotac> ikonia:: i never said i didn't like how it was set up
[22:04] <_Marcus> treveor420: Okay. Then just do what ActionParsnip said, and you should be good
[22:05] <ikonia> god-zotac: then stop talking nonsense
[22:05] <god-zotac> ikonia:: my point is from a system admin point of view that it is different than most are use to.. not talking nonsense
[22:05] <almoxarife> god-zotac: perhaps your talents are more appropriate to #linux??
[22:05] <treveor420> hmm fascinatng seems my network connection isnt working correctly
[22:05] <treveor420> i amable to ping the router but not get outside the wan
[22:05] <ikonia> god-zotac: there are many system administrators in here, not saying such silly things as "Ubuntu has difted away from linux"
[22:06] <_Marcus> treveor420: Unplug the router and plug it back in.
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> treveor420: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf      then retry the web
[22:06] <Daughain> Does anyone have some time to help me with a external drive issue?
[22:06] <god-zotac> ikonia:: i wasn't trying to sound like a troll, although i can see how my statement may be misinterpreted
[22:06] <_Marcus> Daughain: Sure
[22:06] <obiwlan> if i want to report a bug in ubuntu 12.04 and there is already a bug with the same name, but from 11.10, should i open a new bug or append my report to it?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> obiwlan: i'd report it, it will be marked as a duplicate if it is deemed so
[22:07] <cfhowlett> obiwlan   read the bug first, append if necessary but don't duplicatre
[22:07] <god-zotac> ikonia:: but things like upstart, no wheel group, sudo, unity, etc.. its more of a class of its own
[22:08] <uni4dfx> does dpkg's --force-architecture install 32-bit stuff into /usr/lib32 or does it overwrite in /usr/lib ?
[22:08] <_Marcus> god-zotac: So you're saying Linux distributions should stay like Linux?
[22:08] <Daughain> Thanks. I have an external drive that shows as mounted in gparted, but the mount point it shows is /
[22:08] <ikonia> god-zotac: upstart is in most linux distributions, including fedora and is on the road map for RHEL 7, it has a wheel group, it's called "admin" few distros use the group "wheel" now, sudo is common among pretty much every linux and unix flavour as a permissions / control method - so as I said, stop talking nonsense.
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> uni4dfx: i'd extract the deb then copy the .so to /usr/lib32
[22:08] <kpas_> I installed gnome-panel and gnome tweak and would like to know how remove the bottom menu bar - con't seem to figure that out
[22:08] <god-zotac> _Marcus:: no i'm not saying that.. i'm saying that ubuntu is unlike all other linux distributions in almost every aspect
[22:09] <ikonia> god-zotac: and you are wrong.
[22:09] <uni4dfx> ActionParsnip that might work for one deb but not if it has 50+ dependencies :/
[22:09] <_Marcus> god-zotac: And why is that bad?
[22:09] <god-zotac> didn't say it was bad..
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> uni4dfx: yeah it can get messy, try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[22:09] <_Marcus> god-zotac: Then what are you saying?
[22:09] <Flannel> god-zotac, ikonia, _Marcus: Can you guys take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?  Thanks.
[22:09] <Bender__> I have seriuos audio problem, how can I reconfigure my audiocard?
[22:09] <obiwlan> ActionParsnip, cfhowlett: ok.. i appended it. ty
[22:10] <god-zotac> Flannel:: no, i'm personally done with the discussion, but people keep asking me more about a stupid statement i made
[22:10] <ikonia> god-zotac: sorry - I'll be clear as Flannel is right it has strayed offtopic, "Stop giving people nonsnese/wrong information"
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Bender__: can you give the output of:   wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[22:10] <cfhowlett> obiwlan   have fun/be safe
[22:12] <Bender__> ActionParsnip, Your ALSA information is in /tmp/alsa-info.txt.5JMYRlsU5k
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Bender__: ok, run:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /tmp/alsa-info.txt.5JMYRlsU5k      what is output?
[22:13] <Daughain> _Marcus, I'm trying to use an external hd, it is showing  as mounted at /dev/sdb1 in gparted, and showing as not mounted in disk utility.
[22:13] <_Marcus> Daughain: i have no idea on how to fix it, sorry.
[22:14] <treveor420> ActionParsnip: I tried that step to modify the resolv.conf file but still unable to connect... i've rebooted the router and that didnt help... i am able to get online through that router since i am here, just not from the ubuntu machine. I also tried to ping google.com by IP and it didnt resolve
[22:14] <Bender__> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/849238/
[22:14] <Daughain> _Marcus, any ideas for an fstab edit to solve  this?
[22:15] <_Marcus> Daughain: I'm not good with filesystems, so I really have no idea what you are talking about.
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Bender__: does the system have a make and model?
[22:16] <Daughain> No worries.
[22:16] <Daughain> Does anyone have any ideas that might help?
[22:19] <dlentz> Daughain, gparted can read the partition table of a disk without any mounted partitions
[22:19] <Jazzanova> I have reinstalled lightdm but it is not added to rc2.d -- how come ?
[22:19] <dlentz> you just need to mount the partition
[22:20] <y0om4> i change the default application for loading movies in system setting to vlc, but nautilius still uses movie player to play movies. i do not understand
[22:20] <Daughain> Dlentz, it shows it as mounted at /dev/sdb1 and if I  try to mount it, I get an error message saying it is already mounted.
[22:21] <treveor420> !paste
[22:21] <Jazzanova> Nvidia drivers are broken with 3.0.16
[22:21] <dlentz> what path is it mounted to?
[22:21] <Daughain> It only says /
[22:22] <Bender__> ActionParsnip, no sorry, I made this computer by myself
[22:22] <Bender__> ActionParsnip, from scratch
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Bender__: so what is your sound issue?
[22:22] <Jazzanova> What is the current stable Ubuntu version.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> !11.10 | Jazzanova
[22:23] <Jazzanova> With what kernel does it come ?
[22:23] <dlentz> 3.0
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic oneiric
[22:24] <Bender__> ActionParsnip, I have 3 Soundcard: 1st is the motherboard integrated, 2 nd is the videocard HDMI,  3rd is my Soundblaster Live! PCI card. I have disabled the 1st and 2nd. I only wanna work with the SB live. This is the issue: I was recording with the line-in input and then I am unable to switch back to the mic-in input.
[22:24] <Jazzanova> Ok, with this kernel nvidia is fucked
[22:24] <Jazzanova> I want to get back to a working system
[22:24] <Bender__> ActionParsnip, The audio input is locked on line-in so I can't use skype or any other software. Only Line-in input is working.
[22:25] <Jazzanova> How do I downgrade kernel in ubuntu ?
[22:25] <Bender__> ActionParsnip, I have tryed to change the audio settings but it doesn't work.
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Bender__: Creative cards can be a pain
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Bender__: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     then wait a few seconds, see if it helps
[22:25] <Bender__> ActionParsnip, oww..so bad...anyway that card has so low latency
[22:25] <Daughain> Using videos --mount /dev/sdb1 I get "mount failed: daemon is inhibited"
[22:26] <dwebber> dwebber hilight test
[22:26] <Bender__> ActionParsnip, also the audio quality recording and playback is really great compared to the integrated soundcard.
[22:26] <Daughain> Damn autocorrect....udisks
[22:26] <Bender__> ActionParsnip, is there a way to reset pulseaudio or reconfigure it?
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> Bender__: I gave the command to reset it
[22:27] <dlentz> Daughain, but this isn't the root partition, correct?
[22:28] <Bender__> ActionParsnip, where? I only recived the alsa formation script and the pastebin
[22:28] <Daughain> dlentz: Its not supposed to be, though it has a boot flag in gpart.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> Bender__: (22:25:39) ActionParsnip: Bender__: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     then wait a few seconds, see if it helps
[22:29] <Bender__> ActionParsnip, thank you, I give a try...
[22:30] <inspirence> o/
[22:30] <dwebber> dwebber
[22:30] <playit> hey I got a little closer to figuring out how to get samba configured with gnome 3.2 on ubuntu 11.10
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> playit: sweet :)
[22:31] <playit> I could not get /etc/init.d/samba stop /start/ or restart to work
[22:31] <playit> and found that the command now for me is
[22:31] <inspirence> could someone help me to install a game suposed to work on windows only?
[22:31] <playit> start smbd
[22:31] <playit> and stop smbd
[22:31] <Bender__> ActionParsnip, it works! After that I found my audio settings to be reconfigured (disable the other 2 cards) and unmute the mic-in
[22:31] <Bender__> ActionParsnip, solved :) Thank you a lot!
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Bender__: nice. No worries dude
[22:32] <playit> I also found that after using the system-config-samba or something like that plugin / nautilus to share folders
[22:32] <inspirence> or maybe not ><"
[22:33] <playit> how do I look for the smb.conf file
[22:33] <Daughain> dlentz: According to show-info, it is not mounted?
[22:33] <playit> I think the problem is the tools edit the wrong location smb.conf file?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> playit: it's /etc/samba/smb.conf
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> playit: I can give my config file if you want. Shows how shares are defined
[22:34] <playit> browsable is commented out?
[22:34] <Kaan_M_32> IF YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY COME TO http://www.borabux.com/?ct=mirc
[22:35] <playit> could that be why?
[22:35] <playit> derpppp
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> playit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/849270/
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> playit: last few lines are what you need
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Kaan_M_32: please don't spam
[22:35] <y0om4> i change the default application for loading movies in system setting to vlc, but nautilius still uses movie player to play movies. i do not understand
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> y0om4: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:36] <Kaan_M_32> IF YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY COME TO http://www.borabux.com/?ct=mirc
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> !ops | Kaan_M_32
[22:37] <y0om4> oneircic
[22:37] <y0om4> oneiric
[22:37] <playit> also is there a way I could search for a file name system wide
[22:37] <SillyTalker> i made a live usb stick, now i would like to edit grub, to enable output to my usb2serial, but i annot find a menu.lst, any tips?
[22:37] <SillyTalker> also if there's a simpler way to install using only a serial port...
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> y0om4: under system settings, you can set the default there afaik
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> playit: sudo updatedb; locate filename
[22:39] <playit> ok i have multiple smb.confs
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> y0om4: under the details button
[22:39] <playit> usr/share/samba/smb.conf
[22:39] <Kaan_M_32>  Do you want web traffic to grow up or get more members
[22:40] <inspirence> noone would help a new french linux user like me?
[22:40] <playit> no we want you to gtfo
[22:40] <playit> @Kaan_M_32
[22:40] <Daughain> inspirence: I can try..
[22:41] <inspirence> thx Daughain  :)
[22:41] <cesar_> hola
[22:41] <kingnebex> any 1 who knows ny good torrent downloader?
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> playit: samba uses the one in /etc/samba
[22:41] <Daughain> inspirence: I don't speak French, tnough
[22:41] <inspirence> Daughain, I'm trying to install a game I used to play on windows, there is a tutorial to explain how to install it on linux but when I try to run it, nothing happen
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: transmission, its in the default install
[22:42] <Guest90012> hey
[22:42] <cfhowlett> kingnebex   transmission
[22:42] <Daughain> inspirence: your using wine?
[22:42] <inspirence> Daughain, yep
[22:43] <kingnebex> is it good?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: sure
[22:43] <inspirence> Daughain, i did what's written on the first post here: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14614&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
[22:43] <Daughain> inspirence: I have never used wine, sorry.
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: its not the best (best doesn't exist) but its certainly not the worst.
[22:44] <inspirence> Daughain, arf... ok never mind, thank's anyway ;)
[22:44] <Simon1245> t/Pmt/
[22:44] <danny_> how to do i change the font color of the software center i have a theme i like but it made it so i cant read anything when i click on a ap
[22:45] <kingnebex> iv tried it and downloads dnt seem to move at all
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: does yourrouter support upnp?
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: you may need to port forward the transmission port if not
[22:47] <rymate1234> hmmm
[22:47] <rymate1234> I have this issue where the unity launcher suddeny stops hiding
[22:47] <rymate1234> and my keyboard stops working
[22:48] <kingnebex> wat does dat mean?
[22:49] <Daughain> What is math?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: if your router doesn't dynamically open ports for apps like torrents inflowing then you will need to open the port manually
[22:49] <Jazzanova> How do I disable respawn on lighdm ?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: you could try some other clients to test. There are lots in the repos
[22:49] <Daughain> Dammit....what is mtab?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtab
[22:50] <Daughain> ActionParsnip: thanks
[22:51] <infidel> is there a uubuntu server channel?
[22:51] <cfhowlett> infidel   #ubuntu-server
[22:51] <infidel> thanks
[22:52] <kingnebex> would u explain it a litle more for me?
[22:53] <chattel> #oe
[22:53] <Silverlion> chattel what is #oe?
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: exaplain what?
[22:54] <urfr332gO> danny_, I don't think you can change the font there alone except with a hack probably.
[22:55] <mister2> hey guys, i'm trying to open my virtualbox machines and they're listed as inaccessible. I fixed it once by moving the virtualbox vms and putting them back. any ideas on why it's happening?
[22:55] <dlentz> kingnebex, google 'port forwarding'
[22:55] <jayar> somone wanna help me with samba?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> mister2: I'd ask in #vbox
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> jayar: ask away
[22:57] <jayar> sometimes i can see the shares via winxp, somtimes i can
[22:57] <jayar> cant
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> jayar: try restarting the smbd service when you cannot see the shares
[22:58] <jayar> did
[23:00] <Daughain> How do you fix a mount daemon issue? And/or what does the error "mount daemon  is inhibited" mean?
[23:00] <jayar> ActionParnsip: somethin else i can try?
[23:01] <etyrnal> where's, generally, a decent irc channel to get help with porting/building failures?
[23:02] <etyrnal> (trying to build Wesnoth 1.10 for the kids on th Ubuntu box so their Ubuntu version will be up to speed with their os x version)
[23:05] <happyfrog> Hello.
[23:05] <LeChacal> hello all, question I have the following line in my crontab file and my problem is that the standard out doesn't append to the file it overwrites, but standard error works correctly and appends. Any idea for why this is happening?
[23:05] <LeChacal> "*/15 *  * * *   user   /usr/local/bin/script 1>>/home/user/LOG/stdout 2>>/home/user/LOG/stderr"
[23:05] <hiexpo> hola all
[23:06] <happyfrog> Is there a way to port KDE into the Ubuntu 11.10???
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> jayar: look for logs maybe, see what happens to samba when you cannt see the shares
[23:06] <xangua> happyfrog: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:06] <cfhowlett> happyfrog   or install kubuntu
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> happyfrog: sure, install kubuntu-desktop    and you'll get it
[23:07] <nanonymous> mes
[23:07] <happyfrog> xangua, thanks!  ActionParsnip, I would like to try out the latest version of Ubuntu with the KDE desktop.
[23:07] <deli> hey guys, anyone knows about Qt Mobility?
[23:09] <Steevca> I am having some slow preformance with ubuntu 11.10,more then half of memory is being used,but i just have chrome open.
[23:09] <Daughain>  /part
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: can you give the output of:  free -m; lsb_release -a; uname -a     use a pastebin to give the output
[23:10] <grkblood> where are the setting stored for the display menu?
[23:11] <grkblood> i want to make a script that wil automatically st my settings i want when my laptop is closed
[23:11] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: Here you go. :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/849320/
[23:11] <happyfrog> Another question, the irc apps in Android require SASL for me to connect to freenode.  Any way to fix this?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: yeah, thats a lot of ram used. If you close chrome, is it better?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> happyfrog: I use andchat and its fine
[23:13] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: A litle,it's Mem: 1002  728  274
[23:13] <happyfrog> I use that app too but it will not allow me to connect to freenode.  it says I need SASL.
[23:13] <playit> Ok i made a bit more progress on setting up SMB
[23:13] <Steevca> More than 100 mb is free now,but it's stil to much.
[23:14] <playit> I can now see it from another computer the name of the folder and all if I manually enter my network ip address and connect to 'windows share'
[23:14] <happyfrog> I think it has something to do with 3G.  If I connect via WiFi, I connect o freenode just fine, but thru 3G, no go.
[23:14] <playit> it shows the name of the folder I set 'Samba' and 'print$'
[23:14] <Steevca> I am just runing smuxi and chrome,but i don't think that thay can thake up 700 mb of ram. :S
[23:14] <Steevca> Can they? :S
[23:15] <playit> but when I try to connect it quickly tells me 'Unable to mount location' 'Failed to mount Windows share'
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: your free mem is 491
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: if you have a tonne of extensions, it will use more ram
[23:15] <binaryhat> everytime i power up or reboot, grub does not automatically boot into the first option...i have to hit enter
[23:16] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: Just adblock and erepublik advanced.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> binaryhat: http://paste.ubuntu.com/849324/    there is my /etc/default/grub    is it very different to yours?
[23:16] <doug_> So I am trying to load a Windows 7 boot disk for a dual boot onto a USB using Ubuntu 11.10 but it's telling me the USB drive is read-only....how do I change this
[23:16] <Steevca> But erepublik advanced is only used on the specific site.
[23:17] <Canadian1296> doug_: Format the USB.
[23:17] <Canadian1296> doug_: Make sure to back up any data first, as it will wipe it out.
[23:17] <doug_> @Canada: I've done that, it doesnt work
[23:17] <happyfrog> doug_ use HP DISK FORMAT TOOL to format the USB stick.  Google it and you should find it.
[23:18] <doug_> H.Frog: thanks, I will give it a try
[23:18] <doug_> I'm tempted to run back to windows...lol
[23:18] <Canadian1296> doug_: If there's a write lock on the actual usb (its a little switch on it), then you can read but not write.
[23:18] <happyfrog> doug_ Windows does not do a proper format with USB thumb drives as they are different from traditional platter hard disc drives.
[23:18] <doug_> There is no write lock on it
[23:19] <Canadian1296> Then try the utility mentioned
[23:19] <happyfrog> doug_  are you using a USB flash stick?
[23:19] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: I have opened system monitor and he reports that 470 MiB of memmory is used and about 40% of cpu.
[23:19] <binaryhat> ActionParsnip, http://fpaste.org/P5gR/ pretty much the same
[23:19] <doug_> I have loaded windows via thumb drive before
[23:20] <doug_> I am using a 4gb usb sandisk thumbdrive
[23:20] <happyfrog> doug_  wht are you trying to do again?
[23:20] <Lint> is there a way to inspect an environment for a certain process?
[23:21] <ikonia> Lint: it will be using the default enviornment, unless it's startup shell script set something
[23:21] <Canadian1296> doug_: I use unetbootin to make a bootable usb from an iso (versions available for Mac Windows and Linux). It formats it properly, so it may fix your issue.
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> binaryhat: uncomment:  #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0       then run:  sudo update-grub
[23:22] <doug_> I'm trying to make it so that I can dual boot windows 7 and Ubuntu 11.10. for purposes of gaming. Linux simply cant do gaming as well as Windows can, so I wanted to set up a partition for Windows 7 for that purpose
[23:22] <ikonia> doug_: ok, what's stopping you ?
[23:22] <Tyrope> Greetings, I'm running lamp-server^ on my ubuntu VM, and it seems that PHP's require_once() doesn't work. I think it's a chmod issue. The files are chmod 664 and owned by an admin account (not apache's account.)
[23:22] <doug_> Canadian: Thanks for the suggestion, but I have tried that and it doesnt work because it wont load the image onto a FAT32 formatted thumbdrive
[23:22] <binaryhat> ActionParsnip, ahhh ok
[23:23] <happyfrog> Through a dual-boot config of Windows Vista & Ubuntu, in Ubuntu, will I be able to access my files that are in my Windows OS?
[23:24] <doug_> What's stopping me is that I cant seem to find software to write the ISO image to the thumbdrive. I have tried imagewriter and that doesnt seem to work either
[23:24] <ikonia> doug_: what iso image ?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> doug_: try unetbootin
[23:25] <doug_> iknonia: an ISO image of Windows 7 starter
[23:25] <qba> hi
[23:25] <ikonia> doug_: if possible installing windows before ubuntu is an easier process
[23:25] <happyfrog> doug_ what os are you trying to install to usb?
[23:25]  * Lint wonders if starter version isn't OEM-only
[23:26] <doug_> windows 7 starter
[23:26] <qba> better ubuntu
[23:26] <doug_> unetbootn does not work
[23:26] <ikonia> doug_: the guys in ##windows maybe able to help you build a usb install media
[23:26] <happyfrog> that is a whole different ballgame then.
[23:26] <qba> unetbootin
[23:26] <ikonia> doug_: they will be more aware of the needs and requirements of windows usb install media
[23:26] <qba> to iso to pendrive
[23:26] <happyfrog> Windows is NOT like Linux.
[23:26] <qba> boot pendrive
[23:26] <ikonia> happyfrog: no-one said it was
[23:26] <qba> it's easy
[23:27] <doug_> yea, Windows seems to be more user friendly
[23:27] <ikonia> qba: it's not actually, building a windows boot usb is not straight forward
[23:27] <OerHeks> doug_, the microsoft site has software to make a windows 7 usb stick .. wich does not run on ubuntu.
[23:27] <BlouBlou> doug_: if you prefer windows, buy it and use it, that's all
[23:27] <ikonia> BlouBlou: who said he hasn't bought it,
[23:27] <grkblood> whats a cli command to use to determine whether or not the VGA port is in use?
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> seems you can do it from Ubuntu
[23:28] <qba> doug UNETBOOTIN
[23:28] <doug_> I had a copy already and it accidently got deleted. The code on the bottom is still usable
[23:28] <qba> TO CREATE BOOTABLE ISO
[23:28] <LjL> qba: not of WIndows.
[23:28] <ikonia> qba: doesn't work properly
[23:28] <ikonia> qba: typing in caps doesn't help
[23:28] <chuck1310> OerHeks: You have also software under Ubuntu to make OS stick
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> qba: the iso is already bootable
[23:28] <qba> kk
[23:28] <panagos> yeah
[23:28] <chuck1310> OerHeks: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[23:29] <doug_> is there a program I can run on WINE to do this?
[23:29] <OerHeks> chuck1310, read carefull: windows 7
[23:29] <ikonia> doug_: that's not something I'd suggest doing to be honest.
[23:29] <Steevca> No help for me.Okay. :\
[23:29] <doug_> ok, well, thanks anyway
[23:29] <ikonia> Steevca: ok
[23:30] <doug_> I'm also trying to find a Playstation emulator with Gameshark support for the Linux....found it once, but cant find it again
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: if nobody can advise, try later
[23:30] <Steevca> Well it's 00:30,i am going to bed later. :P
[23:31] <chuck1310> OerHeks: the program indicate on the Ubuntu site works also with Windows Seven
[23:31] <chuck1310> OerHeks: Universal USB Installer
[23:32] <qba> why I have the red button to disable ubuntu?
[23:32] <ikonia> qba: what ?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> qba: where is it located?
[23:32] <qba> right
[23:32] <doug_> Anyone else notice that Ubuntu 11.10 does not restart?
[23:32] <happyfrog> doug_  Go here---> http://ftanada.wordpress.com/2009/02/15/install-windows-7-on-a-usb-stickflash-drive/
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> doug_: restarts here
[23:33] <BlouBlou> doug: Works fine here too
[23:33] <happyfrog> Reply back if that answers your problem.
[23:33] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: Is a 1GB of ram and 2.0GHz processor enough for ubuntu 11.10?
[23:34] <Lint> Steevca, barely
[23:34] <doug_> AP can you p9st that again?
[23:34] <BlouBlou> Steevca: Yes, it would work with 512mb of ram
[23:34] <OerHeks> Steevca, sure
[23:34] <Steevca> And how about overclocked processor? :D
[23:34] <ikonia> Steevca: that wo'nt make a difference
[23:34] <Lint> with 512 MB you will have 1-2 second pauses between everything
[23:35] <ikonia> Steevca: if anything it will make your system unstable
[23:35] <scarleo> Steevca, depends more on which desktop you choose
[23:35] <BlouBlou> Lint: No if you use Unity 2D
[23:35] <Steevca> ikonia: Well it's really stable,never had a problem with it,and i am runing it overclocked for 2 years now.
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: I'd use Lubuntu, it will give a snappied OS
[23:35] <happyfrog> Steevca, try this ---> http://bit.ly/zzOVgW
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> happyfrog: don't do that
[23:36] <denver> buonasera a tutti
[23:36] <happyfrog> do what?  I trying to help.
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> happyfrog: if you can't help without being rude, don't bother
[23:36] <happyfrog> okay. :-/
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> happyfrog: try giving actual links to actual sites
[23:37] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: It's not a problem.
[23:37] <jayar> forward slash, agree
[23:37] <Steevca> Acording to the sites i can run it fine.
[23:37] <Steevca> But the thing is,when i installed ubuntu it was running fast without a problem,but after a month it just got slower.
[23:38] <Steevca> So the hardwer isn't the problem for sure.
[23:39] <intruso555> hola a todos
[23:39] <chuck1310> intruso555: hola amigo
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: i'd test the ram to be sure. RAM is super cheap so I'd just grab some RAM
[23:40] <ikonia> or your overcloaking is making it unstable....
[23:41] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: Well the problem is that this is a ddr,so findig one is going to be a problem. :P
[23:41] <Steevca> Ok,i am going to try it without the overclock
[23:42] <william> hola
[23:42] <Guest73012> hola
[23:42] <Guest73012> alguien q me quiere ayudar
[23:42] <Myrtti> !es
[23:42] <BlouBlou> Guest73012: Si vas a hablar en español entra en #ubuntu-es :)
[23:43] <Guest73012> hola<
[23:43] <Guest73012> q tal
[23:44] <rootEth> Anyone tell me where to find .login file in 11.10?
[23:44] <ikonia> rootEth: your home directory
[23:45] <rootEth> would it be possible it doesn't exist?
[23:45] <ikonia> rootEth: yes
[23:45] <lele_> http://xdccing.com/
[23:45] <ikonia> lele_: why post that ?
[23:45] <rootEth> ah k, ty, least I'm not going blind lol
[23:45] <lele_> hauhau
[23:45] <ikonia> lele_: why post that ?
[23:45] <lele_> try to use that
[23:45] <lele_> too difficult for me
[23:46] <Steevca> ikonia: Nope,it's still the same.
[23:46] <ikonia> lele_: no - please keep the postings in this channel related to ubuntu support
[23:46] <ikonia> Steevca: how are you testing this - you said it takes a month to slow down
[23:47] <Steevca> Nope,i seid that i noticed that it was slower about a month later.
[23:47] <Steevca> I am going to try with gnome
[23:47] <ikonia> Steevca: but after a month it just got slower.
[23:54] <jen_> are there any chatrooms here to help me with simple algebra?
[23:54] <ikonia> ##maths ?
[23:54] <jen_> ive tried to find tutorials on youtube but I cant seem to find the right ones
[23:54] <ikonia> ask in #freenode
[23:54] <jen_> okay
[23:54] <playit> I just figured it out! but now i need to know why its like this
[23:55] <playit> using gnome 3.2 with samba I have to set 'force user = my user name' in the /etc/samba/smb.conf file to be able to connectr
[23:56] <playit> why is this and how can I set it up to where you have to use a password.. Also I have to connect to it by ip address
[23:56] <playit> it doesnt automatically show up on my other ubuntu pc
[23:56] <ikonia> playit: is your windows username the same as your ubuntu one ?