[00:14] <ochosi> micahg: hey, i have a list of fixes/commits for gmusicbrowser now (we talked about backporting a few important ones to oneiric a few days ago)
[00:14] <ochosi> micahg: where would you want me to put them?
[01:48] <micahg> ochosi: we'll need 1 bug per issue with a test case, with one debdiff for all of them attached to one of the bugs
[05:38] <b__> anyone on?
[05:38] <b__> I'm not a dev, but I could use some help... even direction to a channel would be helpful....
[09:47] <knome> madnick, there is one thing i'd like fixed in plymouth this cycle
[09:47] <knome> madnick, that's the text not showing up properly, when plymouth hits fsck
[09:50] <ochosi> micahg: hm, it's three issues (google-image-search,overlay-scrollbar,mpris2-plugin), but the mpris2 has 6 commits or so, do we really need a separate bug for each of them?
[10:02] <ochosi> micahg: ok, i submitted bugreports as requested for google-image and overlay-scrollbar bugs, i subscribed you to them. please let me know about the mpris2 issue. thanks a bunch!
[11:57] <Pokemonacer> hello
[11:57] <Pokemonacer> @chanserve
[11:57] <meetingology> Pokemonacer: Error: "chanserve" is not a valid command.
[11:57]  * Pokemonacer Loves Linux
[12:00] <PokemonAcer> Ok
[12:01] <PokemonAcer> How About We Have.... A Little Mouse As The Cursor?!
[18:26] <leo-unglaub> hi,
[18:26] <leo-unglaub> in the current version of xubuntu the terminal looks a little bit strange
[18:26] <leo-unglaub> http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/mlcmhnl6/Auswahl_001.jpeg
[18:27] <leo-unglaub> is there a current open bug for that?
[18:27] <leo-unglaub> or should if opne an new ticket?
[18:29] <astraljava> leo-unglaub: What seems to be the problem in your opinion?
[18:30] <leo-unglaub> astraljava: there is no problem with the functionallity, it just the default theme with looks a little bit strage. it's just an eye candy bug. i marked the parts of the image
[18:30] <leo-unglaub> http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/wpe630yd/Auswahl_001.jpeg
[18:33] <astraljava> leo-unglaub: http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/xfce4-terminal.png
[18:33] <astraljava> I see that the background color seems to mess with the borders a little bit, yes.
[18:33] <astraljava> Well, you should talk to knome or ochosi about that.
[18:35] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: hey
[18:35] <ochosi> well i tried to fix that earlier already in greybird, but it's not really possible
[18:35] <leo-unglaub> astraljava: okay, thanks !!!
[18:35] <ochosi> we decided to go for a "flat" terminal style in precise
[18:35] <leo-unglaub> ochosi: hi :)
[18:36] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: this is what it'll look like: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-02192012-073605pm.php
[18:36] <Unit193> >_<
[18:37] <leo-unglaub> ochosi: i see
[18:37] <ochosi> but that'll also work with dark terminal-bg
[18:37] <ochosi> the scrollbar-bg simply won't match the terminal-bg anymore, but the general window-color
[18:38] <ochosi> so it won't look as integrated as before (without tabs)
[18:38] <leo-unglaub> looks good
[18:38] <ochosi> problem is the tabs, that's an unfixable problem
[18:38] <leo-unglaub> ochosi: well, i am not a designer, but is it a possibillity to make it like in pidginß
[18:38] <leo-unglaub> ?
[18:39] <leo-unglaub> the tab problem seems to be fixeed there
[18:39] <ochosi> no clue what pidgin looks like, i never use that :)
[18:39] <leo-unglaub> mom, i take a screenshot
[18:39] <ochosi> feel free to send me a proposal/screenshot
[18:39] <leo-unglaub> http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/4v8ky51q/Auswahl_002.jpeg
[18:40] <leo-unglaub> if you use the same style, i would look great
[18:40] <leo-unglaub> in the right site there is a little gray border before the scroll bar
[18:40] <leo-unglaub> so the black background never would destroy the scroll bar
[18:44] <ochosi> well that's just the normal scrollbar
[18:44] <ochosi> you can easily have that by deactivating the terminal-specific theming
[18:45] <leo-unglaub> really? where can i do thatß
[18:49] <ochosi> you have to uncomment the line "include apps/terminal.rc" in /usr/share/themes/greybird/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
[18:49] <ochosi> s/uncomment/comment
[18:51] <ochosi> then you have to restart the terminal to apply the style
[18:51] <leo-unglaub> hey, thats looks great
[18:52] <leo-unglaub> and fixes my problem
[18:52] <leo-unglaub> thanks!!!
[18:52] <leo-unglaub> but, why is there a special stype for the terminal if the default looks that good?
[18:53] <ochosi> well the original intention/idea was to have the scrollbar feel more integrated in the black terminal
[18:53] <ochosi> but it doesn't work/look well with other background
[18:53] <ochosi> s
[18:54] <ochosi> but in general that's a question of taste, like with a lot of theming. i personally like about this scrollbar-style that it's not visually "in your way" as scrollbars aren't that important in terminals
[18:54] <ochosi> and it's very similar to the new resize-grip
[18:54] <ochosi> (in style)
[18:55] <leo-unglaub> well, i have not much of an idea about styling...i am a C/C++ dev with spends most of his day in the terminal and for me scroll bars are very important to see outou from above
[18:55] <leo-unglaub> but with the default style it looks great
[18:55] <leo-unglaub> thanks you very much !
[19:00] <ochosi> heh
[19:00] <ochosi> np
[19:00] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: if you're interested to help out with xubuntu a bit, you'd be most welcome. we don't have enough people who code
[19:02] <leo-unglaub> ochosi: yeah, i am very interested in it. i worked for almost 6 years with gnome but after trying 1 year to get along with unity and the gnome-shell...
[19:03] <leo-unglaub> i tryed xfce 2 days ago and fall in love with it
[19:03] <ochosi> cool
[19:03] <leo-unglaub> finaly i have a desktop again with allows me to work without havong fancy docs..
[19:03] <leo-unglaub> if i want docks..i buy an apple
[19:05] <leo-unglaub> ochosi: what can i do? i started last night to fix the thunar share plugin with is not maintained anymore
[19:05] <ochosi> very nice
[19:05] <ochosi> well there are a few areas we could do work in, but we'd have to postpone the discussion because i have to go now
[19:10] <leo-unglaub> well, sounds good
[19:11] <leo-unglaub> i pinned this channel and stay here
[19:11] <leo-unglaub> if there is something todo
[19:11] <leo-unglaub> just write to me
[19:13] <astraljava> leo-unglaub: Welcome into the gang! :)
[19:14] <Unit193> ....of weirdos.
[19:14] <astraljava> Well, I'm not really a Xubuntu dev, but I just recently started contributing.
[19:14] <astraljava> Unit193: I may be weird, but at least I'm not weird.
[19:14] <leo-unglaub> astraljava: thanks !
[19:15] <leo-unglaub> i am realy asking me why i didnt try xubuntu some years ago :)
[19:15] <leo-unglaub> is there a launchpad group where the tickets are listet?
[19:15] <leo-unglaub> and how close do you work with the xfce devs together?
[19:16] <astraljava> leo-unglaub: Not really, the bugs are filed per packages or project. Xubuntu-dev has more privileges on uploading stuff and that sort of things, but everything else is visible to all etc.
[19:17] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: ok, cool, i'll ping you when i have time
[19:17] <ochosi> have a nice evening everyone!
[19:17] <astraljava> leo-unglaub: mr_pouit _is_ an Xfce dev, and some others have close ties to the upstream project as well.
[19:17] <astraljava> ochosi: Back atcha!
[19:19] <leo-unglaub> astraljava: okay, i have noted my names
[19:19] <leo-unglaub> äh, the names of the devs
[19:19] <leo-unglaub> i will patch the thunar share plugin and report back
[19:39] <leo-unglaub> l
[20:05] <micahg> ochosi: the mpris issue, if it's one test and 6 commits, it's one bug, if there are multiple issues with it, it's one bug per test case, not per commit
[20:05] <micahg> if there are multiple commits BTW, you might want to add a link to the upstream commits in the bug if they're bundled as one patch in the debdiff
[21:19] <astraljava> Anyone else been having problems with Chrome lately? Seems it's not releasing memory from closed tabs like previously.
[22:50] <ochosi> astraljava: actually i've had troubles with chromium constantly eating my cpu
[22:53] <astraljava> ochosi: Yeah, sometimes it gets really stuck.
[22:55] <ochosi> i've switched back to midori
[22:55] <ochosi> hope the gtk3 issues get fixed soonish, gtk3-version is a lot faster
[22:55] <astraljava> I'm currently using FF.
[22:55] <ochosi> yeah, did that for years
[22:56] <ochosi> might even go back to that at some point
[22:56] <ochosi> but i'm kinda sympathetic to midori
[22:56] <astraljava> I need two important features working, at least through extensions; FlashBlock and Adblock+
[22:57] <astraljava> If a browser can provide those, I'm game. :)
[22:58] <ochosi> righty
[22:58] <ochosi> well at least adblock is there in midori
[22:59] <astraljava> I check so many links to youtube in a day, that I have to have flashblock working, cause I can't have them start playing immediately when I click on a link to open in a new tab.
[23:00] <ochosi> well, you could also use "mute"? :)
[23:00] <astraljava> A stupid workflow, I know, but it's in my system. :)
[23:00] <astraljava> No, cause I have music playing all the time.
[23:00] <ochosi> use pulseaudio to mute only the browser then
[23:01] <astraljava> But I might have music playing _in_ the browser. :)
[23:01] <astraljava> ...or from the browser, how do you say it.
[23:01] <ochosi> lol
[23:01] <ochosi> ok, well i guess then it's flashblock you need
[23:02] <astraljava> Yeah.
[23:18] <micahg> what's slow in Firefox?
[23:19] <ochosi> wait, did i say it was slow?
[23:27] <micahg> ah, CPU and memory issues :), Firefox has been working towards reducing its memory footprint with each release
[23:28]  * micahg isn't sure if Chromium has similar explicit goals 
[23:28] <ochosi> i dunno
[23:29] <ochosi> i mainly switched to midori because it's such a small project and i think it can use the testing
[23:29] <ochosi> and feedback
[23:31] <micahg> ah, ok, well, I've been trying to keep it up to date in Ubuntu
[23:32] <ochosi> yeah, it's much appreciated
[23:32] <ochosi> btw, i'll try to put together the last test-case for the soundmenu tomorrow
[23:32] <ochosi> let me know if there's anything else you need
[23:32] <ochosi> (apart from the debdiff etc.)