[00:00] <mongy> ThePendulum: the .desktop file
[00:01] <mongy> ThePendulum: look if a .desktop file exists for it first
[00:01] <ThePendulum> There are no hidden files in that folder
[00:02] <mongy> no, a file with extension .desktop
[00:06] <ThePendulum> There's only a "Desktop" file, but none of the files seem to have a .desktop extension
[00:06] <jadoe> mongy: i know. but at least awn and cairo didn't exactly integrate well with xfce the last time i tried them (~1.5 years ago).
[00:06] <xubuntu049> how fix apt error when installing xubuntu???
[00:07] <mongy> xubuntu049: what error
[00:08] <mongy> jadoe: they should integrate as well as gnome afaik, with compositing available now and then compiz still available if needed
[00:08] <xubuntu049> Unable to configure apt to install additional packages...
[00:08] <mongy> xubuntu049: what packages?
[00:08] <xubuntu049> dont know
[00:09] <xubuntu049> just some packages it didnt say what...
[00:09] <mongy> ThePendulum: I just installed dropbox, it put an entry in my Internet called "File Synchonizer"
[00:10] <mongy> ok, try sudo apt-get -f install
[00:10] <xubuntu049> if i restart the pc, xubuntu will not boot at all
[00:10] <ThePendulum> You put an entry in your internet?
[00:10] <xubuntu049> and network didnt work so apt too didn work ǘ
[00:10] <ThePendulum> I honestly don't know what you mean
[00:12] <xubuntu049> how to connect to wlan from promt???
[00:13] <mongy> ThePendulum: http://imgur.com/pTQWP
[00:14] <ThePendulum> Oh there's more to that file than just executing
[00:15] <ThePendulum> Well...?
[00:15] <ThePendulum> What do I need to do with it
[00:16] <mongy> edit the category to where you want it to appear
[00:16] <ThePendulum> Well it should have it's own category
[00:17] <ThePendulum> I am talking about the rightclick menu
[00:17] <mongy> just copy mine
[00:17] <ThePendulum> It is the same
[00:17] <mongy> ?
[00:17] <mongy> I don't follow
[00:20] <ThePendulum> When I right-click on a file in my Dropbox folder, there should be a 'Dropbox' category with the 'Copy link' option, so I can share that file
[00:24] <mongy> ah, I see
[01:35] <CLIaddict> finally
[02:02] <CLIaddict[away]> maybe you guys are more helpful, I AM using xubuntu after all
[02:02] <CLIaddict[away]> brb
[03:57] <god-zotac> what is the binary that runs the "crash report" in the indicator plugin?  i want to get rid of it permanently, it is very annoying to me, and i usually am well aware of a crash without the need for a visual notification :)
[03:58] <god-zotac> and how do i set up the keychain to automatically unlock/authenticate when loading my desktop instead of prompting for a password when i open my web browser the first time during the session? i know i can remove the keychain password completely, but that's not practical to me
[05:37] <b__> Anyone on irc?
[05:39] <b__> I could use some help
[06:07] <brandon> alright I have used linux for over 4 years close to 5 and have moved to xubuntu after ubuntu switched to unity and gnome depreciated version 2. However I have had my computer go completely unresponisive where I had to pull the power chord to reboot. And by unresponsive ctrl+alt+f1 would not take me to a command line... This is the third time today what is going on
[06:11] <b__> Did you try booting from a cd, to try to pull some logs?
[06:12] <b__> <---- Noob btw
[06:12] <b__> but it's still a thought
[06:12] <b__> On my first 3 installs I borked some things up bad, and had to boot from a disc to fix them
[06:15] <brandon> well I can still reboot into the system but the frequent crashing is driving me crazy
[06:16] <b__> I have you checked logs?
[06:16] <b__> Have you^
[06:17] <b__> Does it only crash while you're using it, or while it's sleeping?
[06:17] <b__> brandon, I have a question for you....
[06:18] <b__> do you have a bt dongle?
[06:18] <b__> blue tooth
[06:22] <brandon> no, its built in blue tooth
[06:22] <brandon> But I use BT dongles on my other computers but they all run gnome 2
[06:27] <b__>  I have connected a bluetooth devise via blueman, and enabled pulseaudio plugin, in the sound settings I can see the bt input and the volume level changing, but can hear no sound. I checked puvu control, and the alsa mixer, nothing is muted. I ran a sound record, which actually recorded the audio I could not hear
[06:30] <brandon> a bluetooth headset?
[06:30] <brandon> I have only used bluetooth for file transfers sorry
[06:30] <b__> My phone
[06:31] <b__> Oh
[06:31] <b__> I got obex to work just fine
[06:31] <brandon> well you can access the files on your phone
[06:31] <b__> but cannot get the music to stream via bluetooth
[06:31] <brandon> but thats all I have done in the past
[06:31] <brandon> if there not encrypted
[06:31] <b__> I'm trying to set up so my wife won't blow the pc speakers on my windows machine.....
[06:32] <b__> My xubuntu is hooked up to my stereo
[06:32] <b__> and my big screen
[06:32] <brandon> ah I see
[06:32] <b__> in the living room
[06:32] <b__> the pc is in the bedroom.. so she turns it up allllllll the way
[06:32] <brandon> I know for a fact that you can limit users to a certin volume
[06:32] <b__> but If I could set it up so she only had to toggle bt
[06:32] <b__> ....
[06:33] <b__> then she could use the big speakers wirelessly
[06:33] <b__> :O
[06:33] <b__> I love the concept, and I'm so close!
[06:33] <brandon> well Im saying I know that you can set the computer not to go above a certing level for her account
[06:34] <brandon> srry certain
[06:35] <b__> yeah...
[06:36] <brandon> these crashes are a pain when im trying to download 27,000 pictures ...
[06:47] <brandon> well good luck let me know if there is something else I could help you with
[07:07] <b__> ty
[11:52] <raven> hi
[11:52] <raven> xubuntu 11.10 - cpu-freq-plugin does not take any effect to frequency - any solution?
[12:16] <jadoe> why do i get openvt, when i want vlc? http://sprunge.us/NXUR
[12:23] <TheSheep> jadoe: type 'which vlc'
[12:23] <jadoe> /usr/bin/vlc
[12:24] <TheSheep> jadoe: dpkg -S /usr/bin/vlc
[12:24] <jadoe> vlc-nox: /usr/bin/vlc
[12:25] <TheSheep> jadoe: what if you type 'alias'?
[12:27] <jadoe> kill me now. i copied my aliases from os x. i have a 'alias vlc="open -a VLC"' in there. sorry for wasting your time.
[12:27] <TheSheep> np
[12:28] <TheSheep> raven: afaik that plugin doesn't work with the new kernel
[12:33] <jadoe> what's the difference between notification area and indicator applet?
[12:34] <mongy> radiotray ?
[12:35] <Sysi> some apps only work with indicator-applet and some with notification area
[12:36] <TheSheep> indicator applet is a retarded and broken idea at remarking the notification area, in short
[12:37] <TheSheep> in an attempt to make the notification area work like on mac
[12:43] <raven> TheSheep how to adjust it at least by cmd?
[12:47] <TheSheep> raven: I don't understand
[12:48] <raven> TheSheep performance/ondemand/....
[12:49] <mongy> it should be ondemand automatically
[12:52] <raven> mongy yes but i need to adjust to powersafe and performance too
[12:53] <mongy> ondemand is already good for that.. it will bump up when needed
[12:58] <raven> mongy i need powersafe manually!!
[13:01] <mongy> I think there is an indicator that can do it.   jupiter I think its called
[13:01] <mongy> never used it
[13:04] <mongy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/73710/how-can-i-adjust-cpu-frq-in-lubuntu   nice
[13:05] <hobgoblin> I've got that jupiter thing on the laptop - seems to work ok
[13:11] <raven> hobgoblin how to add it to panel?
[13:11] <hobgoblin> raven: not remembering - hang on I'll go boot it up
[13:12] <raven> hobgoblin does not work anyway - perhaps no root?
[13:13] <hobgoblin> works here - which is not much help - I didn't do anything odd with it - just started it from the system menu
[13:13] <hobgoblin> sits in the notification area I think
[13:15] <raven> hm
[13:17] <hobgoblin> shouldn't need root afaik - try it from a terminal and see if there are any errors - /usr/bin/jupiter-run
[13:18] <hobgoblin> and when you say it does not work - what exactly do you mean? it runs but doesn't do anything or doesn't even run
[13:19] <raven> does not change freq
[13:19] <raven> oh!
[13:19] <raven> from cmd it works right!
[13:20] <hobgoblin> there were reports of reboot needed sometimes looking at forum
[13:23] <raven> ok
[13:33] <Gianpox> Hi to all, I have a problem with the suspend mode. I can active it without problem but to exit I must press the "On/off" button. If I use the keyboard o mouse the notebook (a Thinkpad x121e) doesn't exit from suspend mode.
[14:28] <arpad2> hello
[14:43] <metasansana> ai
[14:45] <arpad2> after reinstalling grub2 xubuntu doesnt boot
[14:48] <metasansana> what do you see?
[14:48] <xb> i did the updates   from today  xubuntu x86_64  12.04   and the theme  as changed ...
[14:54] <arpad2> metasansana: frozen picture of xubuntu picture before the login screen appears
[14:55] <Sysi> arpad2: does Ctrl Alt F6 do anything?
[14:56] <Sysi> xb: 12.04 support at #ubuntu+1
[14:56] <astap> Hi, I have not worked "in a terminal window open." How to cure? http://storage7.static.itmages.ru/i/12/0219/h_1329639455_2106128_8a5d63e2d3.jpeg
[14:57] <arpad2> Sysi: now or during the boot?
[14:57] <Sysi> now
[14:58] <Sysi> astap: please use #ubuntu-ru instead of google translate, they should know xubuntu too
[14:59] <arpad2> terminal appeared ang the GUI dissapeared, if Im right
[14:59] <arpad2> but with Ctrl Alt F7 i came back here :)
[15:00] <astap> Sysi: ok
[15:00] <arpad2> now I'm on live cd
[15:01] <Sysi> arpad2: you can try re-reinstalling grub
[15:02] <Sysi> make sure you select root and disk right
[15:03] <arpad2> Sysi: ok
[15:06] <Marzata> what is this bug in Stellarium?
[15:06] <Marzata> when you try to exit the full screen
[15:07] <arpad2> Sysi: I made this http://paste.ubuntu.com/848653/
[16:08] <dvanstone> hello
[16:10] <dvanstone> does anyone else use google chrome 17.0.963.56 ?
[16:10] <mongy> dev version?
[16:10] <mongy> 7.0.963.26 (Developer Build 116225 Linux) Ubuntu 11.10
[16:10] <mongy> 17.0.963.26 (Developer Build 116225 Linux) Ubuntu 11.10
[16:13] <dvanstone>  I see a smiley before the tabs on the upper left and was curious if it was norm ?
[16:13] <dvanstone> normal
[16:13] <mongy> pic?
[16:13] <mongy> how did you get .56?
[16:14] <dvanstone> let me post it
[16:16] <dvanstone> mongy; i'd have to look back in time a few days but I would think apt-get
[16:17] <mongy> the dev ppa is 17.0.963.26, which I use
[16:17] <mongy> the daily ppa is v18
[16:17] <mongy> so what do you have?
[16:18] <dvanstone> 17.0.963.56
[16:19] <mongy> where from
[16:20] <mongy> can you pastebin apt-cache policy chromium-browser
[16:20] <dvanstone> http://imgur.com/zyzHw is the image
[16:21] <mongy> that doesn't look 'normal'
[16:22] <mongy> did you install some extension or theme?
[16:22] <dvanstone> maybe I got it from google no themes
[16:24] <dvanstone> http://fpaste.org/SRV3/
[16:25] <dvanstone> what is the repolist command ?
[16:27] <mongy> ah, you are using chrome then
[16:28] <dvanstone> from software sources I get it from http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/stable
[16:28] <dvanstone> yes google chrome
[16:29] <mongy> stable?  hmm, seems they are slacking off in the dev ppa :(
[16:30] <dvanstone> well chrome v chromuim
[16:32] <mongy> ugh, yeah the chrome stable is newer than my chromium dev
[16:33] <mongy> I best kill off the dev ppa if they aren't updating it quick enough
[16:33] <dvanstone> the new chromes first page wants you to sign in and has users (under preferences > Personal Stuff) which I believe is where that icon comes from
[16:34] <mongy> yeah the new users feaure.  never use dit
[16:34] <dvanstone> well in this version you can't avoid it
[16:35] <mongy> it's in mine, but I'm the only user
[16:35] <mongy> so with only 1 user that icon is up there?
[16:35] <mongy> heh, the daily ppa was last updated 6 weeks ago
[16:35] <mongy> bah
[16:36] <dvanstone> no If you try to delete the users you end up creating more than one
[16:36] <mongy> think I'll go with the chrome dev direct from google then
[16:37] <dvanstone> and yes the icon goes away if you only have one
[16:38] <dvanstone> but the sign into chrome is the launch page
[16:45] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[16:45] <dvanstone> obviously different
[16:45] <ThePendulum> I removed Thunar and reinstalled it again. However, I lost that panel item and I don't know what it's called. It showed your bookmarked locations.
[16:45] <dvanstone> Salutations ThePendulum
[16:46] <ThePendulum> Bookmarked locations + (removable) drives
[16:46] <ThePendulum> Its icon is a folder with a cursor in front of it
[16:46] <ThePendulum> Anyone?
[16:46] <dvanstone> directory
[17:07] <mongy> 19.0.1041.0 dev
[17:07] <mongy> not muhc different, apart from settings/extensions page
[17:07] <mongy> much *
[17:08] <mongy> I see the google repo is still dog slow
[17:23] <mongy> odd.  where have the icons gone? they are there from the application menu on panel. http://i.imgur.com/jtNpQ.png
[17:29] <dvanstone> oh odd how did you get the applications as part of the menu ?
[17:29] <mongy> right click menu
[17:29] <mongy> default xubuntu 11.10 thing
[17:34] <dvanstone> different here my right click doesnt have Calculate size or Applications
[17:36] <mongy> I added the calculate size, its a custom thunar action since you cant do a properties on multiple file/folders
[17:44] <dvanstone> http://imgur.com/iXJnW is what I have
[17:45] <mongy> 362 AND 13 BONUS POINTS  out of a total of 475 points  html5test.  what do you get
[17:45] <dvanstone> from where
[17:46] <mongy> html5test.com
[17:47] <dvanstone> 374 and 13 bonus out of 475
[17:49] <dvanstone> but i dont have a webcam plugged in
[17:51] <dvanstone> is cheese the webcam tool
[17:56] <mongy> yea
[17:57] <enzo> !list
[17:59] <mongy> 12 more points on stable?? hmmm
[18:14] <mongy> not  impressed with html5 youtube at fullscreen :(
[18:14] <mongy> flash is better, ugh.
[18:50] <dvanstone> mongy on chrome ?
[18:51] <mongy> yup
[18:52] <dvanstone> it should by default use webm
[18:52] <mongy> not the quality, the jerkiness
[18:53] <dvanstone> show me an ex:
[18:53] <mongy> any html5 video.
[18:53] <mongy> not any 1 video.
[18:53] <mongy> with html5 fullscreen its a little jerky and with flash it's ok.
[18:55] <dvanstone> what kind of video card do you have ?
[18:56] <mongy> ati 4650 hd 1gig
[18:57] <foobart> Hi there. This isn't really Xubuntu-specific, but I don't know a better place to ask. I want to set up whole disk encryption. I use 3 hard drives, one for the OS, two for data. On windows I use TrueCrypt. It can automount disks that use the same password as the system partition, you only have to enter your password once, pre boot. Is there a way to set something like that up on Xubuntu?
[18:58] <dvanstone> nvidia is well supported imo
[18:59] <dvanstone> have you tried searching the software center
[18:59] <mongy> I can play a html5 webgl game at relative high frames, but youtube vids just aint quite there yet
[18:59] <mongy> software centre? for what?
[18:59] <dvanstone> foobart
[19:00] <foobart> For what? TrueCrypt? It works only that way on windows?
[19:01] <dvanstone> what does truecrypt or what ever it is called do
[19:01] <mongy> I guess you'd add the other drives to fstab, so they'd mount after your main / mounted
[19:02] <dvanstone> well the installer should help w/ that or have that option
[19:04] <dvanstone> foobart man fstab in a terminal
[19:09] <dvanstone> ohh games chess connect 4 solitaire
[19:11] <dvanstone> how many displays does your cards support
[19:15] <mongy> me?
[19:16] <dvanstone> yep
[19:16] <mongy> its a laptop
[19:16] <mongy> I have vga and hdmi interfaces as well.  dont use them tho
[19:16] <mongy> not sure what you mean otherwise.
[19:21] <dvanstone> I feel rather confined when I have less than three screens
[19:22] <mongy> oh.  nah, just my 1080 is enough for me.  plenty of workspaces tho
[19:24] <mongy> cant believe ive only just removed indicator-messages menu
[19:25] <mongy> only think used by it is pidgin and I hardly use that nor do I need to set status from there.
[19:26] <hahn> any one know of a good program that can be used to view or fix a pdf that's corrupted?
[19:26] <dvanstone> zerox
[19:27] <dvanstone> oops I spelled that wrong
[19:27] <dvanstone> xerox
[19:27] <hahn> thats not free though, is it?
[19:28] <dvanstone> where did you get the corrupted pdf
[19:29] <hahn> a hidden service
[19:29] <dvanstone> generally it has to do with what created the file
[19:29] <hahn> but it's currently under a DDoS attack
[19:30] <hahn> i opend the file and started reading it fine while it was still loading(it's 1000+ pages)
[19:30] <hahn> then when it loaded ~900 pages it stopped and now i cant open it again
[19:31] <hahn> i don't really care about the last 10% of the pdf though
[19:33] <dvanstone> what viewer are you using to read the file (how are you getting the corruption warning)
[19:35] <hahn> the first time i was using "document viewer 2.30.3"(in xubuntu) then i tried foxit
[19:36] <hahn> document viewer says "The document contains no pages"
[19:36] <hahn> but i know it does, and it's ~13 megabytes
[19:36] <dvanstone> so you changed viewer mid stream
[19:37] <hahn> no
[19:37] <hahn> once i saw it failed to open completely i tried it again on foxit
[19:38] <dvanstone> but you said 90 percent of it was displayed
[19:38] <hahn> yeah, then the pages disappeared that that message poped up
[19:38] <hahn> really weird, but that's what happened
[19:39] <dvanstone> well you could always send it to a printer
[19:39] <hahn> what do you mean?
[19:46] <hahn> like give it to a shop and see if they can fix it?
[19:48] <dvanstone> hahn; http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pdftk
[19:49] <hahn> yeah i have that
[19:49] <dvanstone> that is what I read does it
[19:50] <hahn> to repair it, yes?
[19:52] <hahn> the only repair that pdftk does is 'repair a pdfs corrupted xref table and stream lengths, if possible'
[19:52] <hahn> and that didn't work
[19:52] <hahn> it came up with an error
[19:52] <hahn> :/
[19:53] <dvanstone> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=corrupt+pdf+recovery+software+oss&l=
[21:17] <davlefou> Hi,
[21:18] <davlefou> i look for an irc french of xubuntu!
[21:18] <Unit193> !fr
[21:18] <davlefou> and why not the #xubuntu-fr ?
[21:19] <d3eniz_laptop> Question, will xubuntu run slower if i install xubuntu-desktop on top of a normal ubuntu installation or is it the same thing?
[21:19] <holstein> d3eniz_laptop: *should* be the same
[21:20] <d3eniz_laptop> holstein: thanks
[21:21] <Unit193> It generally ends up not being quite the same.
[21:22] <Unit193> But holstein is right.
[21:23] <holstein> yeah, usually something in there.. i could propose a hardware case (maybe) that could be slower one way or the other
[21:23] <holstein> i wouldnt lose any sleep over it either way though
[21:27] <justakill> hey if i want skype should i download the ubuntu version?
[21:27] <justakill> for xubuntu
[21:28] <holstein> justakill: yup... the .deb (32 or 64bit, whichever you have)
[21:28] <justakill> cool thanks
[21:28] <Unit193> Should be in the extra repos.
[21:29] <justakill> is the're anyway to make logging in freenode.net and entering channels automatically?
[21:29] <justakill> with xchat
[21:30] <TheSheep> justakill: yes, there is faq on http://freenode.org
[21:30] <TheSheep> sorry .net
[21:30] <justakill> thanks
[21:32] <TheSheep> justakill: point 7. here http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[21:35] <justakill> yea i found it thanks
[21:40] <justakill> whats the best way to do it in Xchat just send a command on entry, or set up server or nickserv password?
[21:40] <justakill> i'm confused
[21:41] <TheSheep> justakill: just set it up to connect with user and password
[21:41] <TheSheep> justakill: in connection settings
[22:33] <god-zotac> how do i manage the keyring in xubuntu?  i am getting errors when i try to open the command from Menu > Other > Keyring Access
[22:34] <mongy> seahorse?
[22:37] <god-zotac> mongy:: thanks, but seahorse isn't showing the password that i need to modify.. here is what the issue is.  When I log in to the desktop everytime it is prompting saying "The keyring service was not unlocked during login. Please enter your keyring password"  something to that extent
[22:37] <god-zotac> mongy:: i have had the issue before with ubuntu based distros, and i have just had to open the keyring and delete the password for the default keyring. but seahorse is only showing my website stored data
[22:39] <god-zotac> brb
[22:41] <god-zotac> mongy:: it appears to have stopped that now heh
[22:41] <mongy> have you set a different passphrase for keyrings than your login password?
[22:42] <god-zotac> i hadn't done anything to any keyring related apps
[22:51] <mongy> not had any keyring issues with my install and wifi etc...
[22:51] <mongy> apart from setting the keyring pass to blank, not sure what else to suggest
[22:52] <god-zotac> i can't even get to anything to change the keyring to blank though
[22:52] <god-zotac> the keyring application isn't opening
[22:53] <god-zotac> /usr/lib/gnome-keyring/gnome-keyring-prompt-3    doesn't work for me
[22:56] <dvanstone> god-zotac; have you attempted with passwords you do know
[22:57] <god-zotac> dvanstone:: it unlocks when i put my password in
[22:57] <god-zotac> i was just wanting to get rid of the prompt everytime i login to my desktop
[22:57] <god-zotac> because it is annoying having to put the password in once to login, and then again to unlock the keychain
[23:07] <god-zotac> mongy:: dvanstone this:  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17739212/Pictures/Screenshots/keyring-everytime-login.png
[23:10] <god-zotac> let me try this. 1 sec brb
[23:12] <god-zotac> that fixed it, just blanked the keyring  (login) password in seahorse, rebooted, no more prompt
[23:22] <mongy> cool
[23:30] <ZippyX> hi there
[23:30] <ZippyX> anyone wake ?
[23:35] <nikin> hi. I have to install a system witch will be used 99% for we browsing, using possibly chrome. As the system will be used for a long time like that, do you think that is possible, that is use precise for this?
[23:37] <nikin> The HW is nothing special, just a 2.4 Ghz Cel with integrated intel VGA
[23:39] <squire> totaly linux noob looking for quick help on simple audio issue
[23:40] <nikin> define simple audio issue
[23:40] <squire> running ubuntu studio (xfce)
[23:41] <mongy> define..
[23:42] <squire> i was trying to adjust audio settings with the audio settings control panel and adjusting something wrong. Now a tremendous hiss is constantly there in background. i just want to reset all audio setting to default and start again. it was working fine for playback before i messed it up. i was trying to adjust mic/line in settings  bc i had installed dragon naturally speaking in wine and Dragon kept telling me my mic was to soft to read.
[23:43] <squire> but i cant figure out how to reset
[23:44] <mongy> killall pulseaudio; rm .pulse* -rf and wait
[23:44] <mongy> or logout/login
[23:44] <squire> i logged out logged in didnt help
[23:44] <squire> so enter that command in terminal
[23:44] <squire> ?
[23:45] <squire> killall pulseaudio; rm .pulse* -rf
[23:45] <nikin> squire: i think the problem you made is that you incrased the playback volume of the mic.
[23:45] <squire> hhhmmm ok
[23:45] <squire> thx
[23:46] <squire> entered "killall pulseaudio; rm .pulse* -rf" into terminal
[23:46] <squire> didnt say eanything
[23:46] <squire> return anything
[23:46] <squire> but no error either
[23:46] <squire> try now?
[23:47] <squire> hmm hiss stil ther
[23:49] <squire> nope login log out no worky either
[23:49] <nikin> squire: did you check the mic playback level?
[23:49] <squire> i will try now
[23:50] <squire> ohhhh ur so smart!
[23:50] <squire> nikin
[23:51] <squire> me feel stupid
[23:51] <nikin> :P
[23:52] <nikin> after 8 years. you will know it to :P
[23:52] <squire> yea!
[23:53] <squire> i likey xfce/ubuntu/linux
[23:54] <squire> i was putting together this machine for hackintosh but kept getting kernel panics so i installed ubuntu studio to troubleshoot hardware and now im thing i just go linux
[23:54] <squire> except i want to use my apple software :(
[23:54] <squire> is there a 'wine' solution for os x?
[23:55] <squire> or just virtualbox installing os x
[23:55] <squire> ?
[23:55] <nikin> depending what software
[23:56] <squire> logic
[23:56] <mongy> not heard of such an osx solution
[23:56] <mongy> vbox it would be I guess
[23:56] <squire> hmm vbox....
[23:56] <squire> idk
[23:56] <squire> i might try
[23:57] <nikin> virtualboxing audio creation software will be painfull
[23:59] <dvanstone> nikin; no more painful than some other studip creation
[23:59] <sp4z> vmplayer is free and more powerful that vbox