[00:16] * Ezim are going to bed. bye! === Torpedo_Skyline is now known as TorpedoSkyline === JackyAlcine_ is now known as JackyAlcine === webjadmin is now known as JackyAlcine === webjadmin_ is now known as JackyAlcine === fenris is now known as Guest47832 === Guest47832 is now known as ejat [07:14] Good morning everyone [07:26] Anyone else having major akonadi and PIM issues with 12.04? [07:30] Darkwing: I havent noticed them, but havent used the 12.04 PC since friday [07:31] I updated last night and BAM it died. :( [07:39] Darkwing: nice birthday present :P === jussi changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Happy birthday Darkwing! | Precise: Feature Freeze, time to squish beasties | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-kubuntu.html TODOs! | Kubuntu is alive and weller than before!! Read:http://wp.me/pQ8xr-gr | Jussi's new baby's name is Elodi! :) === Stecchino_ is now known as Stecchino === vivek is now known as Guest6807 === Guest6807 is now known as pvivek [09:05] could anyone suggest me on some beginner bugs. I am searching. I am unable to find something which i can understand [09:06] pvivek: to triage? [09:07] or to fix? [09:07] Riddell : this will be first time. I was thinking of contributing by starting to fix bugs [09:07] Riddell: the patch you proposed yesterday, I finally got the CMake.Lists.txt from oneiric and could apply the patch partially, it rejected the WIN32 part, but I guess that is OK? [09:08] Mamarok: yes [09:08] * Mamarok tries to build now [09:09] pvivek: fixing bugs needs the relevant skill to fix it, c++, python, packaging, etc [09:09] pvivek: triaging bugs needs ability to diagnose and decide on importance and if it can be sent elsewhere [09:10] so it depends on your skills and interests :) [09:10] arghs, now I get this: [09:10] CMake Error at src/CMakeLists.txt:27 (add_subdirectory): [09:10] add_subdirectory given source "themes" which is not an existing directory. [09:10] Riddell : I have the basic knowledge of c,c++,python. i am ready to learn more. i'll start with fixing. After i get used to stuff , i'll get a better knowledge on how to evaluate on bugs [09:11] triaging is easier than fixing IMHO :) [09:11] Mamarok: if you're using the oneiric CMakeLists.txt file with amarok from git then they won't go, that's an old source file in a new package [09:11] oh crap, why did you have to move that mysql in the first place? [09:11] Mamarok : will give it a try. [09:12] pvivek: Bug 928400 language selector kde bug is a python coding one [09:12] Launchpad bug 928400 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "systemsettings crashed with AttributeError in onSystemLanguageApply(): 'QtLanguageSelector' object has no attribute 'writeSysLangSetting'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928400 [09:12] [Bug 928009] [NEW] Kubuntu missing someKDE API 4.6 include files is a C++ issue, I've not looked at it, might be a non-issue for all I know [09:12] Launchpad bug 928009 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu missing someKDE API 4.6 include files" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928009 [09:12] [Bug 919460] Re: Default config path setting for Kgpg is out of date needs a checkup on [09:12] Launchpad bug 919460 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Default config path setting for Kgpg is out of date" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/919460 [09:13] getting krdc to use kde telepathy worth investigating [09:14] Riddell : thanks will look into them :) [09:14] Mamarok: you can try applying the patch from precise or just applying it by hand [09:14] pvivek: good luck! [09:15] Riddell: I tried, but that didn't work [09:15] can't I just add a path so it finds the library? [09:15] I don't need a multiarch build [09:16] Riddell: I ran into Launchpad bug 928009 whilst trying to add the TV search feature to nepomuk.. [09:16] Launchpad bug 928009 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu missing someKDE API 4.6 include files" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928009 [09:16] Mamarok: rebuilding mysql isn't trivial [09:17] gorgonizer: mm, so real problem then, probably upstream's fault [09:17] how on earth can I build from git then? [09:18] Mamarok: cloneing [09:18] it worked fine with Oneiric without having to tweak anything, why on precise? [09:18] Riddell: it appears that there should be a kde-runtime-devel package containing header files for nepomuk so new nepomuk sources can be built.. I resolved it personally by getting the Red Hat packge of the same name and running it through Alien.. seems to work fine.. [09:19] :) [09:19] pvivek: ^^ [09:22] Mamarok: precice patch applies fine to git people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/telepathy-qt4_0.9.0+repack-0ubuntu3.debdif [09:22] no [09:22] http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/DIFF [09:22] that's the one [09:22] patch -p1 < DIFF [09:22] * Mamarok tries again [09:24] Riddell : i was thinkin of lookin at it :P [09:31] Riddell: doesn't work: http://paste.kde.org/425654 [09:33] Mamarok: you're doing sth wrong, worked like a charm for me [09:33] is your CWD amarok/? [09:34] CWD? [09:34] current working directory [09:34] you need to be in the top directory of the checkout [09:34] ah, let's try again... [09:35] we need to fixup FindMySqlAmarok.cmake in our repository to handle this [09:35] i'll take care of it when i find the time [09:36] now I get this: [09:36] patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line [09:36] Hunk #1 succeeded at 36 with fuzz 1. [09:36] for the third file [09:37] "succeeded" is the critical word there [09:37] it's all good [09:37] OK :) [09:38] * Mamarok builds again [09:52] it worked :) [09:52] Riddell: thanks a lot! [09:52] KRF: ditto [09:53] yay [09:54] Mamarok: worth writing this up on the amarok wiki for new developers [09:54] I will right now [10:08] Riddell: updated the wiki: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/2.0_Development_HowTo#Changes_in_MySQL_for_Kubuntu_Oeniric_and_Debian_Sid [10:11] Mamarok: nice, can you add the command needed and say it needs to be run from top checkout directory? [10:13] hmm we can get rid of kubuntu-common now [10:13] no need for it without netbook [10:14] yes, will do that now, I had to update my blog as well :) [10:16] apachelogger: with the upgraded KDE, multidisplay works fine again, thanks for pointing me to the reason :) [10:28] \o [10:31] hi shadeslayer_ [10:32] ssup Riddell [10:34] working on kubuntu active seeds [10:36] agateau_: is it an idea to use lightdm-kde on kubuntu active? (unsupported tech preview remix at best) [10:40] ^ I have one argument against that [10:40] I have yet to find a way to disable autologin [10:41] oh wait, for active that's a good idea [10:41] :) [10:41] because you usually dont' have a keyboard :P [10:42] shadeslayer_: yes that’s why I dislike kdm for kubuntu-active [10:42] bulldog98: hehe :D [10:42] * Riddell removes oxygen-icon-theme-complete from kubuntu/desktop for i386 as a quick way to get CD size down [10:42] shadeslayer_: btw we don’t have dolphin in the active seed and kpat is also missing [10:42] * shadeslayer_ ponders why his program crashes at 130 addr->s.ip4.sin_family = AF_INET; [10:42] shadeslayer_: and the seed starts plasma-desktop [10:42] bulldog98: best to tell that to Riddell [10:43] Riddell: ^ [10:43] * shadeslayer_ has no access to seeds === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [10:45] bulldog98: does kpat have a suitable active UI? [10:46] bulldog98: does dolphin have a suitable active UI? [10:46] Riddell: I have played it often with touchscreen it works quite good without any change [10:46] Riddell: also I recommend using calligra-active and kontact-mobile [10:48] Riddell: I’ll have time from Wednesday [10:48] on [10:48] to check for active [10:49] groovy, adding calligra-active and kontact-mobile [10:49] upstream says filesystem isn't very plasma activey so no file manager [10:49] that’s ok as soon as it really runs plasma-active [10:54] * Riddell ponders about if plasma-widget-menubar should be on active [11:04] 11:03 < notmart> it uses startactive (own repo) instead of startkde [11:04] 11:03 < notmart> so a session could be created in whatever login manager that uses startactive [11:04] rbelem: any plasma to package that? ^^ [11:04] got weird typo there [11:04] rbelem: any plans to package that? ^^ [11:06] o/ [11:07] india woken up, now it's the fatherly Finnish to wake up [11:07] jussi: how's the bairn? [11:07] Riddell: doing great! (she got a name, as you probably noticed from /topic) :D [11:08] jussi: congrats [11:08] :) [11:08] thanks bulldog98 [11:12] Riddell: when will the new image be build? [11:12] jussi: "Darkwing"? [11:13] Riddell: ... [11:13] bulldog98: dunno I hope to play with scripts today, nobody knows what needs done so it might be easy or I might get blocked [11:13] Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Happy birthday Darkwing! | Precise: Feature Freeze, time to squish beasties | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-kubuntu.html TODOs! | Kubuntu is alive and weller than before!! Read:http://wp.me/pQ8xr-gr | Jussi's new baby's name is Elodi! :) === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Precise: Feature Freeze, time to squish beasties | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-kubuntu.html TODOs! | Kubuntu is alive and weller than before!! Read:http://wp.me/pQ8xr-gr | Jussi's new baby's name is Elodi! :) [11:13] jussi: almost Scottish sounding :) [11:14] Riddell: hehe [11:20] morning [11:21] congrats jussi :D [11:21] jussi: Congrats to mrs jussi [11:21] jussi: oh and you :) [11:24] is there any other impact of disabling -Bsymbolic-functions for a package other than a bit slower library loading? [11:24] Riddell: could you ping me if a new image is ready? [11:25] oh I'll be pinging the whole world if I get it working :) [11:26] yofel: I'm not sure, maybe agateau_ or barry know [11:26] Riddell: you can ping me to test it on my touchpad [11:26] k [11:26] s/touchpad/tablet/ [11:26] bulldog98 meant: "Riddell: you can ping me to test it on my tablet" [11:26] bulldog98: that's i386 based? [11:26] Riddell: yes [11:26] great [11:27] Riddell: it’s an ExoPc sponsered by Intel [11:28] bulldog98: oh did you get that at a geek event? [11:28] Riddell: desktopSummit [11:30] * bulldog98 doesn’t know if he can come to Akademy this year (university and I still don’t know when exams will be) [11:31] * yofel has school and definitely has no time :( [11:32] yofel: :( [11:32] yofel: do you come to LinuxTag in Berlin this year? [11:33] no, I would be able to if it was a week later... [12:14] bambee_: get the N9? === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson [12:43] Riddell: yes :) [12:43] wonderful device really [12:43] * jussi has an n950 and agrees with bambee_ [12:43] well, wonderfly os and device [12:44] n950 surely isn't n9? [12:44] both run on meego harmattan [12:44] but the hardware is different, jussi: can you confirm? [12:44] ah yes. kde packages now being worked on by djszapi for harmattan [12:45] yeah, some hw parts are different [12:45] like the screen, and camera, and lack of NFS, and the fact the n950 has a physical keyboard... [12:46] but its the same processor/platform [12:46] iphone users are all happy without a physical keyboard, how does the n9 fare for that bambee_? [12:49] I think I am confusing with the n900 [12:51] bambee_: ok but does the n9 work well without one? [12:52] n900 > N9 > n950 [12:52] no actually n900 >> N9 > N950 (just because it has a physical keyboard) [12:53] tazz: n950 has a keyboard too [12:53] apol, hence n950 is better than N9 [12:53] oops [12:53] :P [12:53] n900 << N9 < N950 [12:53] :D [12:53] n950 is nice, but I want the n9 screen [12:54] they're all awesome and dead :D [12:54] apol, N9 and N950 have better hardware. [12:54] yes [12:55] also take into account that they all run on a dead plate form. So if you are going to spend money. Make sure this device is for fun/hacking. Not your primary means of communication. [12:58] tazz: dead plate form? [12:58] dead platform? [12:58] * jussi uses n950 as a primary device and it works well... [12:58] yea sorry for that. Disabled auto-correction now :p [12:58] besides, mer/nemo is hardly dead... [12:59] i hardly see any more releases for pinetree [12:59] pinetrail* [13:05] Riddell: yes it does === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [13:16] Howdy all === yofel_ is now known as yofel === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [15:09] Riddell, yup [15:09] Riddell, it is almost done [15:09] rbelem: hi [15:09] bulldog98, heya :-) [15:10] rbelem: what are you working on atm? [15:10] Riddell, i didnt finish it because my son got a flu [15:11] bulldog98, finish startactive and declarative-plasmoids [15:11] rbelem: kool [15:12] bulldog98, after that finish the seeds and meta package [15:12] do we have a startactive as the startcommand in the session file for plasma-active [15:12] bulldog98, it will install its own desktop file in the /usr/share/sessions [15:12] rbelem, Riddell: meta package is good, should we coordinate the packages on a wiki page ore something like that [15:13] rbelem: the only thing we need is that you can deinstall plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook, without having to deinstall plasma-active [15:14] bulldog98, yup... i think it will work this way now [15:15] rbelem: I’ll test it at 4 a clock UTC and will report what’s broken [15:15] thanks bulldog98 :-) [15:15] should I setup a wiki page for the kubuntu active package seed? [15:15] bulldog98, there are still some apps that need packaging [15:16] rbelem: I’ll write a maths exam at wednesday [15:16] after that I’ll have time [15:16] bulldog98, yup :-) there is a meta package in the kubuntu-active ppa [15:16] bulldog98, you can start form there [15:17] bulldog98, and this one lp:~kubuntu-active/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-active-seed [15:21] should I create a wiki page Kubuntu/Active page on our wiki? [15:22] so we could track what packags are still to do, which are in the archive, what’s in the seed/meta-package etc [15:24] Riddell, rbelem, apachelogger: ^ === Torpedo_Skyline is now known as TorpedoSkyline [15:41] bulldog98, yup :-) [15:52] I see the new pacucontrol in pulseaudio finally has a proper role to play in enabling DD, DTS and EAC3 passthru to a DAC ... makes me happy , so far :) [15:57] rbelem: you know a script that creates an html page would be much nicer ^^ [16:06] apachelogger, iirc it can be paste in the wiki. its format is wiki friendly [16:10] *shrug* [16:10] just a thought ^^ === Krawlezten is now known as Krawlezt === Krawlezten is now known as Krawlezt [16:35] so I’ve got a first list running https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Active [16:36] rbelem, Riddell: how do I build the seed for testing? [17:00] bulldog98: build? [17:00] bulldog98: germinate [17:00] apachelogger: ok [17:00] will spit out a list of all stuff that is pulled in by the seed [17:00] building an actual image from the seed is idefinitely more complex :P [17:01] apachelogger: but that’s what I wanted :( [17:02] bulldog98: do we have a seed already? [17:02] if so, I guess talking to cjwatson is in order to get ISOs built from the seed [17:03] yes in bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-active-seed/ [17:04] apachelogger: I guess he’s offline [17:05] bulldog98: -> #ubuntu-devel [17:05] yofel: ok [17:08] bulldog98: why would you switch to pvlc on active? [17:08] apachelogger: testing it out? and I think it’s the best working backend [17:09] that entirely depends on what you judge on http://community.kde.org/Phonon/FeatureMatrix :P [17:11] apachelogger: ok we stick to gstreamer [17:13] mgraesslin: for active should we use the gles kwin or normal kwin on i386? [17:19] bulldog98: no gles [17:19] ok === JackyAlcine_ is now known as JackyAlcine [17:47] I finally fixed my wifi by reverting to linux 3.0.0 and deleting/re-adding my connection info :D [17:52] hey JontheEchidna [17:52] hi [18:03] rbelem: Why is kde-active-artwork arch any? It looks like all arch independent content? [18:04] err kde-artwork-active [18:04] Riddell: ^^^? [18:04] I accepted it, but please check for the next upload. [18:08] anyone knows where dolphin read the places ? [18:08] i can't figure out where my places are stored [18:15] ScottK, my bad :-( [18:16] rbelem: Not a big deal. Please fix for next time. [18:16] ScottK, oki [18:16] thx ScottK [18:16] Peace-, it is a bookmark file [18:17] Peace-, ~/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml [18:18] rbelem: good [18:19] Peace-, i'm working to improve the places view. it will ready for 4.9 [18:21] rbelem: it should organize the stuff better [18:21] Morning [18:21] ish [18:21] for example put download music documentes etc [18:21] Peace-, i agree [18:22] Peace-, next kde/kubuntu release it will look better [18:22] and there is a way to put buttons on the right (up forward etc ) [18:22] and with more funcionality [18:22] ? [18:22] Peace-, in the current code? [18:23] well i am using 4.8 [18:24] Peace-, i'm not sure [18:25] Peace-, you can change the buttons order [18:25] JontheEchidna: welcome back :) [18:26] < bulldog98> rbelem, Riddell: how do I build the seed for testing? [18:26] bulldog98: as I say that's not a trivial thing [18:26] but maybe kubuntu-active meta package has appeared in New, seen it ScottK ? [18:26] bulldog98, you can use wome linaro tools [18:26] one minute [18:26] JontheEchidna: ping [18:27] rbelem: I tidied up the seeds which are now at ~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-active.precise [18:27] rbelem: well i did this http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/20/plasma-desktopu10131.png it's very simple but i guess on the right would be more intuitive and comfortable [18:27] JontheEchidna: Not sure how to trigger, but this : http://paste.kde.org/426038/ [18:27] thx Riddell [18:27] Riddell: hey how are you ? are your problems improving ? [18:27] It was searching for some codec that dragon player wanted [18:28] bulldog98: so if you have ideas on what should be on/off the active images then edit that [18:28] bulldog98: there's also a kubuntu-active-meta package that'll need updated on changes [18:28] Peace-: yes a wee bit better every day thanks [18:28] Riddell: lp branch? [18:28] good [18:29] bulldog98: yes lp:~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-active.precise [18:29] the meta package has a script to update on that [18:30] on telepathy can your login ? i mean with gmail? [18:30] *you [18:30] bulldog98, https://wiki.linaro.org/LiveHelper/Hacking [18:31] rbelem: my tablet is i386 based [18:31] bulldog98, you can build i386 images with that [18:32] rbelem: nice [18:33] Peace-: yes [18:33] hi starbuck1 [18:33] (again) [18:33] Riddell: wtf i get this mission-control[10408]: segfault at 2c ip b71ea92c sp bf9f1e70 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.3116.0[b71b4000+f5000] [18:33] and it dosn't connect [18:34] Peace-: shrug, ask a telepathy person [18:35] :D [18:37] Riddell: I meant a branch for the meta package [18:39] rbelem: that file is created from something it seems there is not on /usr/share/kde4/apps [18:39] bulldog98: none, it's just a script that updates from that branch [18:39] apt-get source kubuntu-active-meta and see [18:40] Peace-: mkdir ~/.cache/dconf/ is the bug I know about [18:42] shadeslayer: http://commits.kde.org/libqapt/b0958751ac8fe20a35f9cfc22cd22efbcd05e7b0 [18:43] \O/ [18:43] Riddell: but i have that folder i will try to remove the file i have into [19:00] Riddell: I already let the active metapackage out of New. === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [19:01] ScottK: thanks [19:01] Darkwing: chit chat in an hour? [19:01] Riddell: Aye [19:02] Darkwing: best ping people so they don't forget :) [19:02] Riddell: I was going to send an email but, Akonadi isn't working anymore. [19:03] How do I install the QtSQL driver 'QMYSQL' [19:05] Darkwing: is libqt4-sql-mysql installed? [19:05] and akonadi-backend-mysql [19:07] No and No. [19:07] bad [19:07] Why would those have not have updated with the update for 12.04? [19:07] iirc there was a conflict at some point which removed those [19:07] but that should've been fixed [19:08] It hadn't as of this morning but it works now. [19:09] Thanks yofel [19:09] which backend *did* you have installed btw.? [19:09] as at least one is required [19:10] akonadi settings said that mysql was there but, it wasn't. [19:10] I'm not sure [19:10] what does this say? apt-cache policy akonadi-backend-* [19:13] http://paste.kde.org/426080/ [19:13] hm, sqlite was installed instead [19:14] But, it wouldn't load with sqlite either. [19:14] :/ [19:14] It was pissing me off LOL [19:15] if the backend is changed you still need to change it in the settings too [19:15] or otherwise akonadi simply fails [19:16] I listed MySQL as my backend after I installed. It's working well now. [19:16] and it handles my massive inboxes just fine in 4.8 === allison_ is now known as wendar [19:17] Riddell: sent [19:17] gosh it's wendar, were you at fosdem wendar? [19:18] Riddell: yup, were you? [19:18] wendar: I was running the KDE stall, didn't see you over the hallway on the ubuntu one though [19:18] Riddell: it was so intensely busy there, it seems like I missed a lot of people [19:18] that always happens, it's an intense event :) [19:19] Riddell: I planned to spend the whole day at the Ubuntu booth, but it was so crowded, it seemed kinder to walk about to sessions and leave them the space [19:19] I don't blame you for not being at the ubuntu stall, it was directly opposite toilets with blocked plumbing :) [19:19] Riddell: I did spend an hour or so chatting in front of it [19:19] Riddell: ah, the random chance of conference booths :) [19:41] one more time === amichair_ is now known as amichair === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [20:01] chit chat happening now [20:09] crap >_> [20:12] Riddell: somehow kde-workspace depends on plasma-desktop or plasma-netbook, which makes kubuntu-active being deinstalled, if I deinstall plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook [20:17] Probably need to add some plasma-active thingy as an alternate depends. [20:17] Riddell, all seems well here with pulseaudio now..passthru etc all working ..pavucontrol is finally doing it's job [20:19] btw vlc backend is working again in phonon ...haven't used gstreamer since [20:24] does it work with vlc 2? [20:25] mikecb_, if you mean VLC media player 2.0.0 Twoflower , yes [20:25] ^ can confirm [20:26] but I'm not talking about the player mikecb_ , i mean the phonon-vlc-backend [20:27] aka phonon-backend-vlc , officially [20:34] sweet [20:34] so the libbluray stuff and such will vork [20:43] mikecb_, yes it should , I have some DD and DTS encoded videos copied from bluray which work fine ...the setup in pavucontrol is critical tho , if you use pulseaudio [22:01] nixternal: launchpad code hosting is worse in japan I hear [22:01] ec2 machines available on request [22:43] Has anybody taken a peek at apol's muon-mobile branch? Pretty neat stuff. http://imgur.com/a/J85o7 [22:43] I'm sure that he'll blag about this in a month or so. :P [22:43] JontheEchidna: awesome candidate for kubuntu active? [22:43] (Or that there will be a blag) [22:44] Riddell: that's the dream. (He's being sponsored by Netrunner-OS to do Muon work for them) [22:44] JontheEchidna: looks good [22:45] JontheEchidna: that's very nice of somebody [22:45] :P [22:45] if I find time I’ll package that in kubuntu-experimental [22:46] we'll be merging it into git master this week, currently it's in the "newui" branch on git [22:46] adds a build-dep on libkdeclarative [22:46] JontheEchidna: oh is there a muon way to set apt proxy? (user question I had this week) [22:47] Riddell: it'll follow the system proxy (http_proxy env var) [22:47] it will? won't it follow an apt setting in /etc/apt ? [22:47] that too [22:47] but not the KDE proxy I presume [22:47] nope [22:48] it'd really be nice if KDE just provided an interface to set the system proxy [22:49] as it stands, QApt uses APT to get the proxy info, which will first look in /etc/apt and then fall back to http_proxy [22:49] so no GUI way to do it? [22:50] no [22:51] I suppose I could be cajoled into giving QApt a "set proxy" function and then get Muon to set it with the KDE proxy [22:51] well I'd say software-properties is the right place to do it [22:52] but glatzor and Kubuntu haven't touched that in years [22:52] I think the last thing that was done to it was some bugfix patches by amichair [22:52] or maybe it was bambee [22:52] I forget now :P [22:52] but yeah, not much going on there [22:53] this is more than a bug fix, it needs done in both Qt and GTK UIs [22:53] or at least the backend and Qt and let the GTK UI fend for itself :) [22:53] that was indeed long ago :-) === Krawlezten is now known as Krawlezt [23:17] software-properties needs to go away! [23:17] also [23:18] JontheEchidna: can you regrow that stuff in muon maybe? :P [23:18] I eventually would like to do that [23:20] but you are busy with minecraft, I know :P [23:20] all my goto guys are busy with minecraft for some reason :P [23:21] ok, gonna go do some work. i shall stop by again later. i will take a look at ubiquity, which i have been, and i must say, what a head ache it is [23:21] later [23:26]