[00:16]  * Ezim are going to bed. bye!
[07:14] <jussi> Good morning everyone
[07:26] <Darkwing> Anyone else having major akonadi and PIM issues with 12.04?
[07:30] <jussi> Darkwing: I havent noticed them, but havent used the 12.04 PC since friday
[07:31] <Darkwing> I updated last night and BAM it died. :(
[07:39] <jussi> Darkwing: nice birthday present :P
[09:05] <pvivek> could anyone suggest me on some beginner bugs. I am searching. I am unable to find something which i can understand
[09:06] <Riddell> pvivek: to triage?
[09:07] <Riddell> or to fix?
[09:07] <pvivek> Riddell : this will be first time. I was thinking of contributing by starting to fix bugs
[09:07] <Mamarok> Riddell: the patch you proposed yesterday, I finally got the CMake.Lists.txt from oneiric and could apply the patch partially, it rejected the WIN32 part, but I guess that is OK?
[09:08] <Riddell> Mamarok: yes
[09:08]  * Mamarok tries to build now
[09:09] <Riddell> pvivek: fixing bugs needs the relevant skill to fix it, c++, python, packaging, etc
[09:09] <Riddell> pvivek: triaging bugs needs ability to diagnose and decide on importance and if it can be sent elsewhere
[09:10] <Riddell> so it depends on your skills and interests :)
[09:10] <Mamarok> arghs, now I get this: 
[09:10] <Mamarok> CMake Error at src/CMakeLists.txt:27 (add_subdirectory):
[09:10] <Mamarok>   add_subdirectory given source "themes" which is not an existing directory.
[09:10] <pvivek> Riddell : I have  the basic knowledge of c,c++,python. i am ready to learn more. i'll start with fixing. After i get used to stuff , i'll get a better knowledge on how to evaluate on bugs
[09:11] <Mamarok> triaging is easier than fixing IMHO :)
[09:11] <Riddell> Mamarok: if you're using the oneiric CMakeLists.txt file with amarok from git then they won't go, that's an old source file in a new package
[09:11] <Mamarok> oh crap, why did you have to move that mysql in the first place?
[09:11] <pvivek> Mamarok : will give it a try. 
[09:12] <Riddell> pvivek:  Bug 928400 language selector kde bug  is a python coding one
[09:12] <Riddell> [Bug 928009] [NEW] Kubuntu missing someKDE API 4.6 include files    is a C++ issue, I've not looked at it, might be a non-issue for all I know
[09:12] <Riddell> [Bug 919460] Re: Default config path setting for Kgpg is out of date   needs a checkup on
[09:13] <Riddell> getting krdc to use kde telepathy  worth investigating
[09:14] <pvivek> Riddell : thanks will look into them :)
[09:14] <Riddell> Mamarok: you can try applying the patch from precise or just applying it by hand
[09:14] <Riddell> pvivek: good luck!
[09:15] <Mamarok> Riddell: I tried, but that didn't work
[09:15] <Mamarok> can't I just add a path so it finds the library?
[09:15] <Mamarok> I don't need a multiarch build
[09:16] <gorgonizer> Riddell: I ran into Launchpad bug 928009 whilst trying to add the TV search feature to nepomuk..
[09:16] <Riddell> Mamarok: rebuilding mysql isn't trivial
[09:17] <Riddell> gorgonizer: mm, so real problem then, probably upstream's fault
[09:17] <Mamarok> how on earth can I build from git then?
[09:18] <Riddell> Mamarok: cloneing
[09:18] <Mamarok> it worked fine with Oneiric without having to tweak anything, why on precise?
[09:18] <gorgonizer> Riddell: it appears that there should be a kde-runtime-devel package containing header files for nepomuk so new nepomuk sources can be built.. I resolved it personally by getting the Red Hat packge of the same name and running it through Alien.. seems to work fine..
[09:19] <Riddell> :)
[09:19] <Riddell> pvivek: ^^
[09:22] <Riddell> Mamarok: precice patch applies fine to git people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/telepathy-qt4_0.9.0+repack-0ubuntu3.debdif
[09:22] <Riddell> no
[09:22] <Riddell> http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/DIFF
[09:22] <Riddell> that's the one
[09:22] <Riddell> patch -p1 < DIFF
[09:22]  * Mamarok tries again
[09:24] <pvivek> Riddell : i was thinkin of lookin at it :P
[09:31] <Mamarok> Riddell: doesn't work: http://paste.kde.org/425654
[09:33] <KRF> Mamarok: you're doing sth wrong, worked like a charm for me
[09:33] <KRF> is your CWD amarok/?
[09:34] <Mamarok> CWD?
[09:34] <KRF> current working directory
[09:34] <Riddell> you need to be in the top directory of the checkout
[09:34] <Mamarok> ah, let's try again...
[09:35] <KRF> we need to fixup FindMySqlAmarok.cmake in our repository to handle this
[09:35] <KRF> i'll take care of it when i find the time
[09:36] <Mamarok> now I get this:
[09:36] <Mamarok> patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line
[09:36] <Mamarok> Hunk #1 succeeded at 36 with fuzz 1.
[09:36] <Mamarok> for the third file
[09:37] <Riddell> "succeeded" is the critical word there
[09:37] <Riddell> it's all good
[09:37] <Mamarok> OK :)
[09:38]  * Mamarok builds again
[09:52] <Mamarok> it worked :)
[09:52] <Mamarok> Riddell: thanks a lot!
[09:52] <Mamarok> KRF: ditto
[09:53] <Riddell> yay
[09:54] <Riddell> Mamarok: worth writing this up on the amarok wiki for new developers
[09:54] <Mamarok> I will right now
[10:08] <Mamarok> Riddell: updated the wiki: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/2.0_Development_HowTo#Changes_in_MySQL_for_Kubuntu_Oeniric_and_Debian_Sid
[10:11] <Riddell> Mamarok: nice, can you add the command needed and say it needs to be run from top checkout directory?
[10:13] <Riddell> hmm we can get rid of kubuntu-common now
[10:13] <Riddell> no need for it without netbook
[10:14] <Mamarok> yes, will do that now, I had to update my blog as well :)
[10:16] <Sput> apachelogger: with the upgraded KDE, multidisplay works fine again, thanks for pointing me to the reason :)
[10:28] <shadeslayer_> \o
[10:31] <Riddell> hi shadeslayer_ 
[10:32] <shadeslayer_> ssup Riddell
[10:34] <Riddell> working on kubuntu active seeds
[10:36] <Riddell> agateau_: is it an idea to use lightdm-kde on kubuntu active?  (unsupported tech preview remix at best)
[10:40] <shadeslayer_> ^ I have one argument against that
[10:40] <shadeslayer_> I have yet to find a way to disable autologin
[10:41] <shadeslayer_> oh wait, for active that's a good idea
[10:41] <Riddell> :)
[10:41] <shadeslayer_> because you usually dont' have a keyboard :P
[10:42] <bulldog98> shadeslayer_: yes that’s why I dislike kdm for kubuntu-active
[10:42] <shadeslayer_> bulldog98: hehe :D
[10:42]  * Riddell removes oxygen-icon-theme-complete from kubuntu/desktop for i386 as a quick way to get CD size down
[10:42] <bulldog98> shadeslayer_: btw we don’t have dolphin in the active seed and kpat is also missing
[10:42]  * shadeslayer_ ponders why his program crashes at 130       addr->s.ip4.sin_family = AF_INET;
[10:42] <bulldog98> shadeslayer_: and the seed starts plasma-desktop
[10:42] <shadeslayer_> bulldog98: best to tell that to Riddell
[10:43] <bulldog98> Riddell: ^
[10:43]  * shadeslayer_ has no access to seeds
[10:45] <Riddell> bulldog98: does kpat have a suitable active UI?
[10:46] <Riddell> bulldog98: does dolphin have a suitable active UI?
[10:46] <bulldog98> Riddell: I have played it often with touchscreen it works quite good without any change
[10:46] <bulldog98> Riddell: also I recommend using calligra-active and kontact-mobile
[10:48] <bulldog98> Riddell: I’ll have time from Wednesday
[10:48] <bulldog98> on
[10:48] <bulldog98> to check for active
[10:49] <Riddell> groovy, adding calligra-active and kontact-mobile
[10:49] <Riddell> upstream says filesystem isn't very plasma activey so no file manager
[10:49] <bulldog98> that’s ok as soon as it really runs plasma-active
[10:54]  * Riddell ponders about if plasma-widget-menubar should be on active
[11:04] <Riddell> 11:03 < notmart> it uses startactive (own repo) instead of startkde
[11:04] <Riddell> 11:03 < notmart> so a session could be created in whatever login manager that uses startactive
[11:04] <Riddell> rbelem: any plasma to package that? ^^
[11:04] <Riddell> got weird typo there
[11:04] <Riddell> rbelem: any plans to package that? ^^
[11:06] <jussi> o/
[11:07] <Riddell> india woken up, now it's the fatherly Finnish to wake up
[11:07] <Riddell> jussi: how's the bairn?
[11:07] <jussi> Riddell: doing great! (she got a name, as you probably noticed from /topic) :D
[11:08] <bulldog98> jussi: congrats
[11:08] <jussi> :)
[11:08] <jussi> thanks bulldog98
[11:12] <bulldog98> Riddell: when will the new image be build?
[11:12] <Riddell> jussi: "Darkwing"?
[11:13] <jussi> Riddell: ...
[11:13] <Riddell> bulldog98: dunno I hope to play with scripts today, nobody knows what needs done so it might be easy or I might get blocked
[11:13] <jussi> Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Happy birthday Darkwing! | Precise: Feature Freeze, time to squish beasties | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-kubuntu.html TODOs! | Kubuntu is alive and weller than before!! Read:http://wp.me/pQ8xr-gr | Jussi's new baby's name is Elodi! :)
[11:13] <Riddell> jussi: almost Scottish sounding :)
[11:14] <jussi> Riddell: hehe
[11:20] <yofel> morning
[11:21] <yofel> congrats jussi :D
[11:21] <davmor2> jussi: Congrats to mrs jussi 
[11:21] <davmor2> jussi: oh and you :)
[11:24] <yofel> is there any other impact of disabling -Bsymbolic-functions for a package other than a bit slower library loading?
[11:24] <bulldog98> Riddell: could you ping me if a new image is ready?
[11:25] <Riddell> oh I'll be pinging the whole world if I get it working :)
[11:26] <Riddell> yofel: I'm not sure, maybe agateau_ or barry know
[11:26] <bulldog98> Riddell: you can ping me to test it on my touchpad
[11:26] <yofel> k
[11:26] <bulldog98> s/touchpad/tablet/
[11:26] <kubotu> bulldog98 meant: "Riddell: you can ping me to test it on my tablet"
[11:26] <Riddell> bulldog98: that's i386 based?
[11:26] <bulldog98> Riddell: yes
[11:26] <Riddell> great
[11:27] <bulldog98> Riddell: it’s an ExoPc sponsered by Intel
[11:28] <Riddell> bulldog98: oh did you get that at a geek event?
[11:28] <bulldog98> Riddell: desktopSummit
[11:30]  * bulldog98 doesn’t know if he can come to Akademy this year (university and I still don’t know when exams will be)
[11:31]  * yofel has school and definitely has no time :(
[11:32] <bulldog98> yofel: :(
[11:32] <bulldog98> yofel: do you come to LinuxTag in Berlin this year?
[11:33] <yofel> no, I would be able to if it was a week later...
[12:14] <Riddell> bambee_: get the N9?
[12:43] <bambee_> Riddell: yes :)
[12:43] <bambee_> wonderful device really
[12:43]  * jussi has an n950 and agrees with bambee_
[12:43] <bambee_> well, wonderfly os and device
[12:44] <Riddell> n950 surely isn't n9?
[12:44] <bambee_> both run on meego harmattan
[12:44] <bambee_> but the hardware is different, jussi: can you confirm?
[12:44] <Riddell> ah yes. kde packages now being worked on by djszapi for harmattan
[12:45] <jussi> yeah, some hw parts are different
[12:45] <jussi> like the screen, and camera, and lack of NFS, and the fact the n950 has a physical keyboard...
[12:46] <jussi> but its the same processor/platform
[12:46] <Riddell> iphone users are all happy without a physical keyboard, how does the n9 fare for that bambee_?
[12:49] <bambee_> I think I am confusing with the n900
[12:51] <Riddell> bambee_: ok but does the n9 work well without one?
[12:52] <tazz> n900 > N9 > n950
[12:52] <tazz> no actually n900 >> N9 > N950 (just because it has a physical keyboard)
[12:53] <apol> tazz: n950 has a keyboard too
[12:53] <tazz> apol, hence n950 is better than N9
[12:53] <tazz> oops
[12:53] <apol> :P
[12:53] <tazz> n900 << N9 < N950 
[12:53] <tazz> :D
[12:53] <jussi> n950 is nice, but I want the n9 screen
[12:54] <apol> they're all awesome and dead :D
[12:54] <tazz> apol, N9 and N950 have better hardware.
[12:54] <apol> yes
[12:55] <tazz> also take into account that they all run on a dead plate form. So if you are going to spend money. Make sure this device is for fun/hacking. Not your primary means of communication.
[12:58] <jussi> tazz: dead plate form? 
[12:58] <jussi> dead platform? 
[12:58]  * jussi uses n950 as a primary device and it works well...
[12:58] <tazz> yea sorry for that. Disabled auto-correction now :p
[12:58] <jussi> besides, mer/nemo is hardly dead...
[12:59] <tazz> i hardly see any more releases for pinetree
[12:59] <tazz> pinetrail*
[13:05] <bambee_> Riddell: yes it does
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:09] <rbelem> Riddell, yup
[15:09] <rbelem> Riddell, it is almost done
[15:09] <bulldog98> rbelem: hi
[15:09] <rbelem> bulldog98, heya :-)
[15:10] <bulldog98> rbelem: what are you working on atm?
[15:10] <rbelem> Riddell, i didnt finish it because my son got a flu
[15:11] <rbelem> bulldog98, finish startactive and declarative-plasmoids
[15:11] <bulldog98> rbelem: kool
[15:12] <rbelem> bulldog98, after that finish the seeds and meta package
[15:12] <bulldog98> do we have a startactive as the startcommand in the session file for plasma-active
[15:12] <rbelem> bulldog98, it will install its own desktop file in the /usr/share/sessions
[15:12] <bulldog98> rbelem, Riddell: meta package is good, should we coordinate the packages on a wiki page ore something like that
[15:13] <bulldog98> rbelem: the only thing we need is that you can deinstall plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook, without having to deinstall plasma-active
[15:14] <rbelem> bulldog98, yup... i think it will work this way now
[15:15] <bulldog98> rbelem: I’ll test it at  4 a clock UTC and will report what’s broken
[15:15] <rbelem> thanks bulldog98 :-)
[15:15] <bulldog98> should I setup a wiki page for the kubuntu active package seed?
[15:15] <rbelem> bulldog98, there are still some apps that need packaging
[15:16] <bulldog98> rbelem: I’ll write a maths exam at wednesday
[15:16] <bulldog98> after that I’ll have time
[15:16] <rbelem> bulldog98, yup :-) there is a meta package in the kubuntu-active ppa
[15:16] <rbelem> bulldog98, you can start form there
[15:17] <rbelem> bulldog98, and this one lp:~kubuntu-active/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-active-seed
[15:21] <bulldog98> should I create a wiki page Kubuntu/Active page on our wiki?
[15:22] <bulldog98> so we could track what packags are still to do, which are in the archive, what’s in the seed/meta-package etc
[15:24] <bulldog98> Riddell, rbelem, apachelogger: ^
[15:41] <rbelem> bulldog98, yup :-)
[15:52] <BluesKaj> I see the new pacucontrol in pulseaudio finally has a proper role to play in enabling DD, DTS and EAC3 passthru to a DAC ... makes me happy , so far :)
[15:57] <apachelogger> rbelem: you know a script that creates an html page would be much nicer ^^
[16:06] <rbelem> apachelogger, iirc it can be paste in the wiki. its format is wiki friendly
[16:10] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[16:10] <apachelogger> just a thought ^^
[16:35] <bulldog98> so I’ve got a first list running https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Active
[16:36] <bulldog98> rbelem, Riddell: how do I build the seed for testing?
[17:00] <apachelogger> bulldog98: build?
[17:00] <apachelogger> bulldog98: germinate
[17:00] <bulldog98> apachelogger: ok
[17:00] <apachelogger> will spit out a list of all stuff that is pulled in by the seed
[17:00] <apachelogger> building an actual image from the seed is idefinitely more complex :P
[17:01] <bulldog98> apachelogger: but that’s what I wanted :(
[17:02] <apachelogger> bulldog98: do we have a seed already?
[17:02] <apachelogger> if so, I guess talking to cjwatson is in order to get ISOs built from the seed
[17:03] <bulldog98> yes in bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-active-seed/
[17:04] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I guess he’s offline
[17:05] <yofel> bulldog98: -> #ubuntu-devel
[17:05] <bulldog98> yofel: ok
[17:08] <apachelogger> bulldog98: why would you switch to pvlc on active?
[17:08] <bulldog98> apachelogger: testing it out? and I think it’s the best working backend
[17:09] <apachelogger> that entirely depends on what you judge on http://community.kde.org/Phonon/FeatureMatrix :P
[17:11] <bulldog98> apachelogger: ok we stick to gstreamer
[17:13] <bulldog98> mgraesslin: for active should we use the gles kwin or normal kwin on i386?
[17:19] <apachelogger> bulldog98: no gles
[17:19] <bulldog98> ok
[17:47] <JontheEchidna> I finally fixed my wifi by reverting to linux 3.0.0 and deleting/re-adding my connection info :D
[17:52] <yofel> hey JontheEchidna
[17:52] <JontheEchidna> hi
[18:03] <ScottK> rbelem: Why is kde-active-artwork arch any?  It looks like all arch independent content?
[18:04] <ScottK> err kde-artwork-active
[18:04] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^?
[18:04] <ScottK> I accepted it, but please check for the next upload.
[18:08] <Peace-> anyone knows where dolphin read the places ?
[18:08] <Peace-> i can't figure out where my places are stored 
[18:15] <rbelem> ScottK, my bad :-(
[18:16] <ScottK> rbelem: Not a big deal.  Please fix for next time.
[18:16] <rbelem> ScottK, oki
[18:16] <rbelem> thx ScottK 
[18:16] <rbelem> Peace-, it is a bookmark file
[18:17] <rbelem> Peace-, ~/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml
[18:18] <Peace-> rbelem: good
[18:19] <rbelem> Peace-, i'm working to improve the places view. it will ready for 4.9
[18:21] <Peace-> rbelem: it should organize the stuff better 
[18:21] <Darkwing> Morning
[18:21] <Darkwing> ish
[18:21] <Peace-> for example put download music documentes etc 
[18:21] <rbelem> Peace-, i agree
[18:22] <rbelem> Peace-, next kde/kubuntu release it will look better
[18:22] <Peace-> and there is a way to put buttons on the right (up forward etc )
[18:22] <rbelem> and with more funcionality
[18:22] <Peace-> ?
[18:22] <rbelem> Peace-, in the current code?
[18:23] <Peace-> well i am using 4.8 
[18:24] <rbelem> Peace-, i'm not sure
[18:25] <rbelem> Peace-, you can change the buttons order
[18:25] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: welcome back :)
[18:26] <Riddell> < bulldog98> rbelem, Riddell: how do I build the seed for testing?
[18:26] <Riddell> bulldog98: as I say that's not a trivial thing
[18:26] <Riddell> but maybe kubuntu-active meta package has appeared in New, seen it ScottK ?
[18:26] <rbelem> bulldog98, you can use wome linaro tools
[18:26] <rbelem> one minute
[18:26] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: ping
[18:27] <Riddell> rbelem: I tidied up the seeds which are now at ~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-active.precise
[18:27] <Peace-> rbelem: well i did this http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/20/plasma-desktopu10131.png it's very simple but i guess on the right would be more intuitive and comfortable
[18:27] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: Not sure how to trigger, but this : http://paste.kde.org/426038/
[18:27] <rbelem> thx Riddell 
[18:27] <Peace-> Riddell: hey how are you ? are your problems improving ?
[18:27] <shadeslayer> It was searching for some codec that dragon player wanted
[18:28] <Riddell> bulldog98: so if you have ideas on what should be on/off the active images then edit that
[18:28] <Riddell> bulldog98: there's also a kubuntu-active-meta package that'll need updated on changes
[18:28] <Riddell> Peace-: yes a wee bit better every day thanks
[18:28] <bulldog98> Riddell: lp branch?
[18:28] <Peace-> good
[18:29] <Riddell> bulldog98: yes lp:~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-active.precise
[18:29] <Riddell> the meta package has a script to update on that
[18:30] <Peace-> on telepathy can your login ? i mean with gmail?
[18:30] <Peace-> *you
[18:30] <rbelem> bulldog98, https://wiki.linaro.org/LiveHelper/Hacking
[18:31] <bulldog98> rbelem: my tablet is i386 based
[18:31] <rbelem> bulldog98, you can build i386 images with that
[18:32] <bulldog98> rbelem: nice
[18:33] <Riddell> Peace-: yes
[18:33] <Riddell> hi starbuck1 
[18:33] <Riddell> (again)
[18:33] <Peace-> Riddell: wtf i get this mission-control[10408]: segfault at 2c ip b71ea92c sp bf9f1e70 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.3116.0[b71b4000+f5000]
[18:33] <Peace-> and it dosn't connect
[18:34] <Riddell> Peace-: shrug, ask a telepathy person
[18:35] <Peace-> :D
[18:37] <bulldog98> Riddell: I meant a branch for the meta package
[18:39] <Peace-> rbelem: that file is created from something it seems there is not on /usr/share/kde4/apps
[18:39] <Riddell> bulldog98: none, it's just a script that updates from that branch
[18:39] <Riddell> apt-get source kubuntu-active-meta and see
[18:40] <Riddell> Peace-: mkdir ~/.cache/dconf/  is the bug I know about
[18:42] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: http://commits.kde.org/libqapt/b0958751ac8fe20a35f9cfc22cd22efbcd05e7b0
[18:43] <shadeslayer> \O/
[18:43] <Peace-> Riddell: but i have that folder i will try to remove the file i have into
[19:00] <ScottK> Riddell: I already let the active metapackage out of New.
[19:01] <Riddell> ScottK: thanks
[19:01] <Riddell> Darkwing: chit chat in an hour?
[19:01] <Darkwing> Riddell: Aye
[19:02] <Riddell> Darkwing: best ping people so they don't forget :)
[19:02] <Darkwing> Riddell: I was going to send an email but, Akonadi isn't working anymore.
[19:03] <Darkwing> How do I install the QtSQL driver 'QMYSQL'
[19:05] <yofel> Darkwing: is libqt4-sql-mysql installed?
[19:05] <yofel> and akonadi-backend-mysql
[19:07] <Darkwing> No and No.
[19:07] <yofel> bad
[19:07] <Darkwing> Why would those have not have updated with the update for 12.04?
[19:07] <yofel> iirc there was a conflict at some point which removed those
[19:07] <yofel> but that should've been fixed
[19:08] <Darkwing> It hadn't as of this morning but it works now.
[19:09] <Darkwing> Thanks yofel
[19:09] <yofel> which backend *did* you have installed btw.?
[19:09] <yofel> as at least one is required
[19:10] <Darkwing> akonadi settings said that mysql was there but, it wasn't.
[19:10] <Darkwing> I'm not sure
[19:10] <yofel> what does this say? apt-cache policy akonadi-backend-*
[19:13] <Darkwing> http://paste.kde.org/426080/
[19:13] <yofel> hm, sqlite was installed instead
[19:14] <Darkwing> But, it wouldn't load with sqlite either.
[19:14] <Darkwing> :/
[19:14] <Darkwing> It was pissing me off LOL
[19:15] <yofel> if the backend is changed you still need to change it in the settings too
[19:15] <yofel> or otherwise akonadi simply fails
[19:16] <Darkwing> I listed MySQL as my backend after I installed. It's working well now.
[19:16] <Darkwing> and it handles my massive inboxes just fine in 4.8
[19:17] <Darkwing> Riddell: sent
[19:17] <Riddell> gosh it's wendar, were you at fosdem wendar?
[19:18] <wendar> Riddell: yup, were you?
[19:18] <Riddell> wendar: I was running the KDE stall, didn't see you over the hallway on the ubuntu one though
[19:18] <wendar> Riddell: it was so intensely busy there, it seems like I missed a lot of people
[19:18] <Riddell> that always happens, it's an intense event :)
[19:19] <wendar> Riddell: I planned to spend the whole day at the Ubuntu booth, but it was so crowded, it seemed kinder to walk about to sessions and leave them the space
[19:19] <Riddell> I don't blame you for not being at the ubuntu stall, it was directly opposite toilets with blocked plumbing :)
[19:19] <wendar> Riddell: I did spend an hour or so chatting in front of it
[19:19] <wendar> Riddell: ah, the random chance of conference booths :)
[19:41] <apachelogger> one more time
[20:01] <Riddell> chit chat happening now
[20:09] <Daskreech> crap >_>
[20:12] <bulldog98> Riddell: somehow kde-workspace depends on plasma-desktop or plasma-netbook, which makes kubuntu-active being deinstalled, if I deinstall plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook
[20:17] <ScottK> Probably need to add some plasma-active thingy as an alternate depends.
[20:17] <BluesKaj> Riddell,  all seems well here with pulseaudio now..passthru etc all working ..pavucontrol is finally doing it's job 
[20:19] <BluesKaj> btw vlc backend is working again in phonon ...haven't used gstreamer since 
[20:24] <mikecb_> does it work with vlc 2?
[20:25] <BluesKaj> mikecb_,  if you mean VLC media player 2.0.0 Twoflower , yes 
[20:25] <shadeslayer> ^ can confirm
[20:26] <BluesKaj> but I'm not talking about the player mikecb_ , i mean the phonon-vlc-backend
[20:27] <BluesKaj> aka phonon-backend-vlc , officially
[20:34] <mikecb_> sweet
[20:34] <mikecb_> so the libbluray stuff and such will vork
[20:43] <BluesKaj> mikecb_,  yes it should , I have some DD and DTS encoded videos copied from bluray which work fine ...the setup in pavucontrol is critical tho  , if you use pulseaudio 
[22:01] <Riddell> nixternal: launchpad code hosting is worse in japan I hear
[22:01] <Riddell> ec2 machines available on request
[22:43] <JontheEchidna> Has anybody taken a peek at apol's muon-mobile branch? Pretty neat stuff. http://imgur.com/a/J85o7
[22:43] <JontheEchidna> I'm sure that he'll blag about this in a month or so. :P
[22:43] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: awesome candidate for kubuntu active?
[22:43] <JontheEchidna> (Or that there will be a blag)
[22:44] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: that's the dream. (He's being sponsored by Netrunner-OS to do Muon work for them)
[22:44] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: looks good
[22:45] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: that's very nice of somebody
[22:45] <JontheEchidna> :P
[22:45] <bulldog98> if I find time I’ll package that in kubuntu-experimental
[22:46] <JontheEchidna> we'll be merging it into git master this week, currently it's in the "newui" branch on git
[22:46] <JontheEchidna> adds a build-dep on libkdeclarative
[22:46] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: oh is there a muon way to set apt proxy?  (user question I had this week)
[22:47] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: it'll follow the system proxy (http_proxy env var)
[22:47] <Riddell> it will?  won't it follow an apt setting in /etc/apt ?
[22:47] <JontheEchidna> that too
[22:47] <Riddell> but not the KDE proxy I presume
[22:47] <JontheEchidna> nope
[22:48] <JontheEchidna> it'd really be nice if KDE just provided an interface to set the system proxy
[22:49] <JontheEchidna> as it stands, QApt uses APT to get the proxy info, which will first look in /etc/apt and then fall back to http_proxy
[22:49] <Riddell> so no GUI way to do it?
[22:50] <JontheEchidna> no
[22:51] <JontheEchidna> I suppose I could be cajoled into giving QApt a "set proxy" function and then get Muon to set it with the KDE proxy
[22:51] <Riddell> well I'd say software-properties is the right place to do it
[22:52] <Riddell> but glatzor and Kubuntu haven't touched that in years
[22:52] <JontheEchidna> I think the last thing that was done to it was some bugfix patches by amichair
[22:52] <JontheEchidna> or maybe it was bambee
[22:52] <JontheEchidna> I forget now :P
[22:52] <JontheEchidna> but yeah, not much going on there
[22:53] <Riddell> this is more than a bug fix, it needs done in both Qt and GTK UIs
[22:53] <Riddell> or at least the backend and Qt and let the GTK UI fend for itself :)
[22:53] <amichair> that was indeed long ago :-)
[23:17] <apachelogger> software-properties needs to go away!
[23:17] <apachelogger> also
[23:18] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: can you regrow that stuff in muon maybe? :P
[23:18] <JontheEchidna> I eventually would like to do that
[23:20] <apachelogger> but you are busy with minecraft, I know :P
[23:20] <apachelogger> all my goto guys are busy with minecraft for some reason :P
[23:21] <nixternal> ok, gonna go do some work. i shall stop by again later. i will take a look at ubiquity, which i have been, and i must say, what a head ache it is
[23:21] <nixternal> later
[23:26] <apachelogger> +1030058950211012595^20292810404852323453
[23:29] <apachelogger> Darkwing: around?
[23:53]  * apachelogger wonders about bug 655646
[23:53] <apachelogger> agateau_: all your fault :P
[23:54] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/21/plasma-desktopdW2223.png
[23:54] <apachelogger> your notifier has a bug
[23:55] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: also that time should be incremented IMHO
[23:55] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: if one leaves the app open on some virtual desktop and never logs out it gives bogus information when one tries to start it again
[23:56] <apachelogger> (it being a kuniqueapp and all that)