[12:26] <Guest63948> Hi all. Got a question. I wanna install vpnc. There's 3 packages I needed in Ubuntu, "vpnc", "network-manager-vpnc" and "network-manager-vpnc-gnome". Do I need the "gnome bits" for vpnc in Lubuntu?
[12:50] <Guest63948> Hi all. Got a question. I wanna install vpnc. There's 3 packages I needed in Ubuntu, "vpnc", "network-manager-vpnc" and "network-manager-vpnc-gnome". Do I need the "gnome bits" for vpnc in Lubuntu?
[12:54] <stlsaint> Guest63948: read what that particular package does and see if theres not another already like it in repos
[12:55] <Guest63948> Do I need the "gnome bits" if I'm not using Gnome?
[12:58] <Guest63948> If I mark "network-manager-vpnc", "vpnc" and "network-manager-vpnc-gnome" are also marked, but do I need the gonme bits when running LXDE?
[14:33] <NyLes_> buzz?
[14:33] <NyLes_> can someone goodhearted help me please?
[14:38] <MrChrisDruif> !ask | NyLes_
[14:40] <MrChrisDruif> What seems to be the problem NyLes_ ?
[14:41] <NyLes_> i have an ol video card NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400, and it has a bug with the latest drivers..
[14:41] <NyLes_> it works fine with the drivers at puppy linux.. how can i get it to work with lubuntu?
[14:50] <NyLes_> MrChrisDruif can you help me?
[14:50] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know NyLes_
[14:50] <MrChrisDruif> What drivers are shipped with puppy?
[14:50] <NyLes_> MrChrisDruif thank you..
[14:51] <NyLes_> i have no idea :(
[14:51] <valdur55> NyLes_, puppy,, what version?
[14:52] <valdur55> NyLes_, and do you downloaded package manager drivers?
[14:53] <NyLes_> valdur55 puppy linux 5 something :D its Lucid Puppy if i remember..
[14:53] <NyLes_> never heard of it? how to do it?
[14:54] <valdur55> NyLes_, jockey-text :)
[14:55] <NyLes_> valdur55 what's jockey-text? im sorry, i'm just a newbie :/
[14:56] <valdur55> NyLes_, oh... what bug?
[14:57] <phillw> From a thread marked [solved] I have one of those cards to in one of my machines. For Maverick you actually need the 96.43.19 which nvidia released a few months after Maverick came out (which is why it's not installed by default).
[14:57] <phillw> The nvidia driver definitely gives better performance than nouveau. Download the latest legacy 96.xx driver from nvidia's website and follow their instructions for installation.
[14:58] <phillw> The thread is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1646166 it does involve some editing of the x-org file if it is out of range.
[14:59] <NyLes_> valdur55 i don't particularly know, but what I know is a latest driver causes my video card to somewhat crash? it doesn't display anything on my monitor
[15:00] <NyLes_> phillw i'll check on that, but can i really still download that so old drver at nvidia?
[15:00] <phillw> NyLes_: it mentions getting hold of the legacy driver from their site - hopefully it is still available.
[15:11] <NyLes_> phillw the one available at nvidia's site is 96.43.20, will it work?
[15:14] <phillw> NyLes_: give it a try :) If you need an example xorg.conf file - try the Example A & C one at http://curubuntu.binghamton.edu/XORG/example-xorg_conf.html once you have the driver if you have problems.
[15:14] <NyLes_> phillw big thanks :)) i hope all will be fine..
[15:16] <NyLes_> i never thought nvidia still holds old drivers ^^
[15:36] <NyLes_> phillw nvidia says they have a utility taht will guide me to config xorg, do you think its reliable? and oh i just found the exact version you said lol from nvidia site also
[15:37] <phillw> use that guide, if it does not work, try the example A&C from that link. Oh, and do report back how you get on :)
[15:40] <doda_> hi, what framework does lubuntu use for powersaving ?
[15:40] <doda_> when i close the lid wifi goes down, and that sucks :D
[15:46] <NyLes_> phillw yes i will, what do yu think if i try much older version? what is the oldest by the way?
[15:50] <NyLes_> phillw is it fine if i installed lubuntu while nomodeset is on? because if i didn't activate the option all i can see is black?
[15:50] <phillw> The recommendation from the thread is to use the 96.43.19 version
[15:51] <phillw> yes, that is fine to use nomode set.
[15:51] <phillw> once you have the driver in and configured, remove the nomode set and hopefully all will be well :)
[15:56] <NyLes_> phillw, I'll be back tomorrow its late night here already,, big thanks friend..
[15:56] <phillw> NyLes_: you're welcome
[15:57] <NyLes_> phillw 1 more thing, should I stick with lubuntu or i should try ubuntu? which is better for my mobo? my pc is too old by the way..
[15:58] <phillw> it's easier to have the same system on both, so stick with lubuntu.
[15:59] <NyLes_> philw thanks for the opinion, thanks again ^^
[18:09] <Error404NotFound> I am trying to upgrade to lubuntu so i can contribute to testing, but when i try it i get http://pastebin.com/HM9pgMA5
[18:13] <holstein> Error404NotFound: you are trying to upgrade 11.10 to 12.04? using apt-on-cd?
[18:13] <Error404NotFound> yes
[18:14] <Error404NotFound> holstein: download alpha-2 for now using zsync
[18:14] <Error404NotFound> downloaded*
[18:14] <Error404NotFound> forgive my english, its 4am and i just wanna upgrade before i leave for sleep :)
[18:17] <holstein> Error404NotFound: cool.. check out #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support
[18:17] <holstein> i would just download a daily and install
[18:17] <Error404NotFound> holstein: ok ^_^
[18:17] <Error404NotFound> holstein: had this downloaded for some time, need to experiment and if it works get to daily.
[18:18] <holstein> Error404NotFound: then, you should get a new one anyway
[18:19] <Error404NotFound> holstein: ja wohl, mein Fuhrer :)
[18:19] <holstein> ?
[18:20] <Error404NotFound> holstein: means yes sir
[18:20] <holstein> :)
[18:22] <Error404NotFound> download daily build, 10m left.
[18:23] <Error404NotFound> downloading*
[18:23] <Error404NotFound> man, i am a shame to germans :P
[21:02] <iceroot> maybe someone on 12.04 (installed with 11.10 or lower) can have a look here if i am getting something wrong https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/937248
[21:03] <iceroot> and installed the system with the normal kernel (not pae, not amd64)
[21:06] <Unit193> 12.04 has PAE by default, as long as it's supported.
[21:06] <iceroot> Unit193: i dont have the pae kernel but lubuntu-desktop is installing the pae-headers
[21:06] <iceroot> and i dont want them
[21:07] <iceroot> i dont see a reason to install pae headers but not the pae-kernel and i am still using normal x86 kernel
[21:08] <iceroot> and i am not sure if i did something wrong of it is the normal case when you install 11.10 with x86, go to 12.04 and habe pae-headers but not a pae-kernel
[21:08] <iceroot> and also its installing the normal headers
[21:08] <Unit193> At any rate, they'll comment on the bug report.
[21:37] <phillw> iceroot: I *think* you may have to use alternate.
[21:40] <Unit193> I'd say remove it, see what happens. (or simulate remove)
[21:45] <phillw> iceroot: I know a couple of the guys on the 'main' forum area have been installing non-pae lubuntu and testing it. But, I can get them to also test to see if that stuff is being dragged into an already small disk space.
[21:59] <iceroot> phillw: would be great
[22:01] <phillw> iceroot: is this yours? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/937248
[22:01] <iceroot> phillw: yes
[22:01] <phillw> okies, I'll ask for it to be checked.
[22:02] <iceroot> phillw: thank you alot. i would do it myself but i dont have another machine here for testing (or some ressources for a vm)
[22:02]  * uskerine looks for recommendation on the most stable office platform: libreoffice, openoffice or ibm symphony
[22:02] <phillw> thanks for the bug report, at least there is something to go on instead of "IT DOESN'T WORK"
[22:02] <iceroot> uskerine: libreoffice for the best supported in (l)ubuntu
[22:02] <phillw> uskerine: libeoffice is now the most supported.
[22:03] <Unit193> uskerine: Say in #ubuntu-bots "What is the best software suite?"
[22:03] <uskerine> thanks
[22:03] <uskerine> i will keep with libreoffice then
[22:03] <uskerine> but i found it is not the most stable platform
[22:04] <uskerine> it hang up after 5 min usage (consistent bug when you try to copy style from one cell to the whole sheet)
[22:06] <Flazer> General question, anyone have issues trying to get built in sd card readers to work under Linux?
[22:08] <iceroot> phillw: if i have bugs in lubuntu and i guess its not happening on ubuntu, can i also contact our qa-team about that? or do we test only lubuntu?
[22:09] <iceroot> most of them are "i guess that lubuntu-desktop has a missing dependency and i guess its working in ubuntu"
[22:10] <phillw> iceroot: is it only happening on lubuntu, or have you checked with ubuntu?
[22:11] <iceroot> phillw: i can not check with ubuntu
[22:11] <iceroot> no ressources
[22:12] <phillw> iceroot: i know a couple of people who can - I have emailed them to check the bug report out. But, you must be patient - it could several days for them to get to my request.
[22:12] <iceroot> phillw: of course, no problem about the time
[22:12] <phillw> If you have heard nothing in 7 days, give me a poke in the ribs & I will check progress for you.
[22:12] <iceroot> phillw: most of the bugs i know how to fix/life with them, its just "others should not get the bugs"
[22:13] <phillw> iceroot: that is because lubuntu is for low-spec machines - but this discussion is better followed up in #lubuntu-offtopic and away from our main, logged, support channel :)
[22:14] <iceroot> phillw: ok
[22:15] <iceroot> and my machine is low spec :) (4gb /, 630mhz, 512mb ram) :)
[22:16] <phillw> iceroot: please /join #lubuntu-offtopic
[22:16] <iceroot> phillw: no need for that, i will stop it
[22:16] <iceroot> phillw: thanks for the help
[22:17] <phillw> if the system is installing PAE onto a non-PAE system - quite simply, it is a bug. I have asked someone to verify it.
[22:18] <phillw> well, not PAE, but all the 'bits'.
[22:18] <phillw> more than that, I cannot do.
[23:54] <taipres> i'm disapointed lubuntu live cd is cmdline
[23:54] <taipres> don't get why you guys didn't copy ubuntus GUI live cd
[23:59] <phillw> taipres: ?