[01:15] <DanaG> hmm, even with git libmtp, HP Touchpad will appear in mtp-detect, but not in Nautilus or Banshee.
[01:17] <DanaG> oh, I see... it's not supposed to appear in nautilus.
[01:21] <DanaG> but it should appear in banshee.
[01:33] <MTeck> init(4) no available ptys     You guys happen to know anything about that from a recent +1 update?
[01:48] <trism> MTeck: when booting? can you try adding --no-log to the kernel command line and see if that helps?
[01:51] <MTeck> trism: that made it come up
[01:53] <MTecknology> trism: so- what's up with it?
[01:54] <trism> MTecknology: can you please file a bug against upstart about this, ubuntu-bug upstart; mention the init no available ptys message and that you can boot with --no-log
[01:54] <c_smith_> MTecknology: are you getting a Kernel Panic on bootup?
[01:55] <MTecknology> c_smith_: no- just sits there scrolling those messages faster than a machine gun
[01:55] <MTecknology> trism: will do
[01:56] <c_smith_> MTecknology: ah, I see. I got Kernel Panics on my laptop on bootup only until recently.
[02:01] <MTecknology> trism: not much info in there, but it's filed as bug 936667
[02:06] <trism> MTecknology: thanks, I'll try to reproduce this in a bit, what is your upstart version? apt-cache policy upstart; also could you pastebin: ls -l /etc/init/; curious if you have for services
[02:06] <trism> if = what
[02:07] <MTecknology> added that info
[03:35] <aroman> howdy
[03:35] <aroman> is there some deb or PPA for a build of the Ubuntu kernel from the 3.3 series?
[03:44] <micahg> aroman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[03:45] <aroman> micahg: fantastic, that's exactly what I was looking for. thanks.
[04:45] <poolie> i guess it's a known bug you can't click to close the hud?
[05:09] <rattatoue> I am on ubuntu 12.04, is there a way to either disable the HUD or least change what key its on?
[05:14] <babai> why does vlc wants to insall openjdk when upgrading to 2.0?
[05:15] <rattatoue> so im the only one that has a problem with this HUD thing being on the ALT key? lol
[05:29] <rattatoue> Hi everyone
[05:33] <micahg> babai: which openjdk package?
[05:35] <babai> micahg: openjdk-6-jre-headless  openjdk-6-jre-lib default-jre-headless
[05:35] <babai> and some icedtea plugins
[05:48] <micahg> babai: confirmed, just not sure why
[06:47] <vega-> any common problems with dns resolution in precise ?
[06:48] <vega-> i have random dns resolution failures
[06:48] <vega-> in any software (host command, google chrome, firefox...)
[06:49] <vega-> sometimes have to hit reload in a browser 5-10 times and then it suddenly works
[06:55] <susundberg> vega-: change your dns provider?
[06:56] <susundberg> for example: try using 8.8.8.8 (google name server) and see if the problem persists
[06:56] <rattatoue> Okay my problem wasnt nvidia breaking opengl, my problem was XBMC just doesnt want to install right
[06:59] <vega-> susundberg: actually, it seems to have settled now when i turned wlan off completely
[06:59] <vega-> actual connection is wired but somehow wlan seems to be interfering
[07:01] <susundberg> vega-: i guess it might, for example if it finds weak open wlan that it connects to (that timeouts at time to time ..)
[07:01] <susundberg> but happy surfing ;)
[08:15] <sahil_> hi
[08:21] <sahil_> hello my unity is broken...this is what i get wen i type unity --reset
[08:21] <sahil_> http://pastebin.com/1kjzfJCB
[08:21] <sahil_> m on precise pangolin
[08:23] <sahil_> on fallback gnome classic..everything is fine..from graphics to desktop tearing.also,no greeter screen comes directly.i have to initiate  a tty via ctrl+alt+(f1-f6) then ctrl +alt+f7
[08:25] <snadge> i weep for precise.. but really.. its not that bad
[08:26] <snadge> when i was a teenager.. i had high hopes for linux being the desktop of the future
[08:26] <snadge> im now 30.. things havn't changed as much as people who are involved in the process seem to think ;)
[08:27] <snadge> especially when it seems that the small base that they have, become increasingly alienated with each release
[08:28] <sahil_> linux is not about conquering the world
[08:29] <sahil_> its about thinking about "we" before "i"
[08:58] <vega-> hmm which flash-package is the correct one: flashplugin-installer or adobe-flashplugin ?
[09:02] <micahg> yes :)
[09:02] <sahil_> anybody here?
[09:03] <sahil_> helo?
[09:03] <sahil_> http://pastebin.com/1kjzfJCB
[09:04] <sahil_> my unity is broken...help :(
[09:06] <Ian_Corne> sahil_: try running unity2d
[09:06] <Ian_Corne> it's not unity that's broken
[09:06] <Ian_Corne> you're missing some GL stuf
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[09:07] <sahil_> didnt gey u..
[09:07] <sahil_> get*
[09:07] <sahil_> u mean i have to reinsatll my ati driver?
[09:08] <Ian_Corne> that could help
[09:08] <Ian_Corne> I'm at work, so i won't be responding much, sorry
[09:09] <sahil_> lan_Corne, how to do that on the first place?i knw how to inatll...but dont know how to unsinsatll
[09:09] <sahil_> m currently running catalyst version 12.1
[09:10] <sahil_> k
[09:12] <Ian_Corne> it's Ian
[09:12] <Ian_Corne> not lan!
[09:13] <Ian_Corne> use unity2d and use the driver install program
[09:13] <pangolin> he quit
[09:14] <Ian_Corne> ah
[09:21] <scarleo> Hello, chkconfig doesn't seem to work in 12.04, "/sbin/insserv: No such file or directory" Is it just wrong path or what is going on?
[09:26] <scarleo> whereis insserv doesn't show any path to any binaries whatsoever
[09:27] <sahil_> hmmm
[09:27] <sahil_> anybody here?
[09:28] <sahil_> i removed few config files via ubuntu tweak janitor
[09:29] <sahil_> and since then my precise unity desktop is brken...
[09:29] <sahil_> can anybody help?
[09:31] <sahil_> ...
[09:34] <skumlesen> sahil_, Im not the ideal helper, since I don't currently run unity, but maybe you could tell us what you experince?
[09:35] <sahil_> okey...thethere is no greeter or login screen poping up by default in order to log in,i first activate a tty and then ctrl+alt+f7  then login appears
[09:36] <sahil_> after that wen i enter desktop(unity/gnome) there is no panal,just desktop and icon...however menubar is present in each window instaed of global menu(no panal)
[09:37] <sahil_> when i type unity --reset,border goes away and i get this:
[09:37] <sahil_>  http://pastebin.com/1kjzfJCB
[09:38] <sahil_> skumlesen, so wat u think?
[09:39] <scarleo> my swap partition fails to mount at boot in 12.04. Anyone else have that problem?
[09:39] <sahil_> i m not feeling any graphics related issue as there  desktop is smooth even 0ad is playable nicely
[09:41] <rye> scarleo, are the UUIDs in /etc/fstab and in the swap "filesystem" intact - look at /dev/disk/by-uuid
[09:42] <rye> sahil_, you seem to be missing an OpenGL library, are you running on nvidia?
[09:42] <scarleo> rye: It is correct in etc/fstab but the disk is not present in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[09:42] <sahil_> rye,ati raedon
[09:42] <rye> scarleo, so did you mount the swap partition now manually?
[09:42] <sahil_> i used ubuntu teweak and cleared config files...taht messed up all
[09:42] <scarleo> rye: I will reformat it first, then try to mount it
[09:43] <sahil_> tweak*
[09:43] <rye> scarleo, yes, it will get new UUID and then you can update the fstab
[09:43] <scarleo> rye: exactly
[09:44] <sahil_> rye, so wat u think?
[09:44] <rye> scarleo, that happened to me once 2 or 3 years ago
[09:44] <rye> sahil_, well, i think you are missing an OpenGL library, is there a file in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 ?
[09:45] <sahil_> rye,wait let me check
[09:45] <scarleo> rye: how can I identify which one is the swap? :S
[09:45] <rye> sahil_, or, if you are on x86_64 it will be in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1
[09:46] <rye> scarleo, sudo fdisk -l
[09:46] <scarleo> rye: yes but I don't get the uuid from there
[09:49] <rye> scarleo, ah, uuid - sudo swaplabel /path/to/device
[09:49] <scarleo> rye: I have an 11.10 install here as well so I don't want to mount the wrong one as swap
[09:49] <scarleo> rye: ok, I'll try that
[09:51] <sahil_> rye, there is no folder named x86_64-linux-gnu
[09:53] <rye> sahil_, do you have libgl1-mesa-glx installed, try sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-glx
[09:55] <sahil_> rye, so now shall i restart or wat?
[09:55] <sahil_> rye,i did sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-glx
[09:56] <rye> sahil_, well, you can try resettting unity
[09:56] <sahil_> u mean unity --rest?
[09:56] <sahil_> reset*
[09:56] <rye> sahil_, yes
[09:57] <sahil_> i hav to use sudo for that?
[09:57] <scarleo> thanks rye it's working fine now
[09:58] <rye> scarleo, goood
[09:58] <scarleo> so just one small annoying thing left, I have to modprobe -r wl ssb b43; every boot and then modprobe wl; again to get wifi going.
[09:58] <scarleo> ssb and b43 are already blacklisted but it seems I have to reload wl
[09:59] <nyuszika7h> scarleo: There should be some modprobe config file for automatically loading modules at boot. I'm not sure where is it in Ubuntu, if it even exists, I only know that they must be put in /etc/rc.conf in Arch.
[09:59] <scarleo> nyuszika7h: thanks, but wl is already loaded, thing is I have to unload it and then reload it again to get it actually do something
[10:01] <rye> scarleo, well, the bad workaround is to add the reloading to /etc/rc.local, but I don't have any broadcom device now to test why wl needs to be reset
[10:02] <scarleo> I'll try that, thanks
[10:02] <sahil_> rye ,m running on vesa now
[10:02] <sahil_> unity working though
[10:03] <sahil_> my system hav fgrlx insatlled aswell
[10:04] <rye> sahil_, as I understand, the missing libgl library is overriden by fireglx package, you might want to reinstall the ati drivers
[10:04] <sahil_> rye,how to reinsall?
[10:04] <sahil_> install
[10:05] <sahil_> i have locally downlaoded the driver  run file
[10:05] <scarleo> nope adding the reloading to rc.local didn't work. What permissions is rc.local run with?
[10:06] <sahil_> rye,i have amd-driver-installer-12-1-x86.x86_64.run in /home/sahil/catalyst folder
[10:07] <rye> sahil_, you will need to reinstall it to get the proprietary libgl
[10:08] <sahil_> how to do that via cli?
[10:09] <sahil_> rye, how to do that via cli?
[10:11] <rye> sahil_, just execute the .run file - chmod +x filename if it is not yet, then do ./filename if it is in current directory
[10:13] <sahil_> rye,insatller is saying a previous version of fgrlx is been detcted
[10:13] <rye> sahil_, overwrite if possible
[10:13] <sahil_> installer is saying a previous version of fgrlx is been detected
[10:14] <sahil_> is it not possible to uninstall at the first place?
[10:14] <sahil_> fgrlx --uninstall -f ??
[10:15] <rye> sahil_, /usr/share/fglrx/fglrx-uninstall.sh ?
[10:16] <sahil_> ahil@sahil:~/Desktop$  /usr/share/fglrx/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[10:16] <sahil_> bash: /usr/share/fglrx/fglrx-uninstall.sh: No such file or directory
[10:18] <sahil_> rye,sahil@sahil:/usr/share/fglrx$ fglrx-uninstall.sh
[10:18] <sahil_> fglrx-uninstall.sh: command not found
[10:18] <rye> sahil_, ./fglrx-uninstall.sh ?
[10:18] <rye> sahil_, sudo ./fglrx-uninstall.sh i guess
[10:19] <rye> sahil_, ah, nevermind, let me look at what's in package
[10:19] <sahil_> sahil@sahil:/usr/share/fglrx$ sudo ./fglrx-uninstall.sh
[10:19] <sahil_> sudo: ./fglrx-uninstall.sh: command not found
[10:20] <sahil_> rye, hey system is showing some broken package alert
[10:21] <sahil_> rye,an update has arived but:fglrx-amdcccle-updates: Depends: fglrx-updates but it is not installed
[10:21] <sahil_>                         Depends: libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.5.3) but 4:4.8.0-1ubuntu5 is installed
[10:21] <sahil_>                         Depends: libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3) but 4:4.8.0-1ubuntu5 is installed
[10:22] <rye> sahil_, well, you can definitely use the fglrx package from ubuntu repos, sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates
[10:26] <sahil_> rye,not working
[10:26] <rye> sahil_, define not working
[10:30] <sahil_> RYE,pastebin.com/d0MPVmk9
[10:30] <sahil_> rye,pastebin.com/d0MPVmk9
[10:33] <hifi> looks like your custom fglrx installation borked your ubuntu package
[10:35] <sahil_> no it worked fine untill ubuntu tweak janitor screwed  my system
[10:58] <htorque> does anyone know if we will be able to set color profiles system-wide in 12.04? the switch during the session start is rather unpleasant to the eye. ;-)
[11:38] <zzecool> Someone else check this out
[11:38] <zzecool> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/936899
[11:42] <glosoli> so silent, o updates :/ :D
[11:47] <zzecool> true
[11:48] <zzecool> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/936899
[11:48] <zzecool> check this horrible bug
[11:48] <zzecool> ill brb
[11:58] <Ian_Corne> glosoli: unity update is fixed?
[11:59] <glosoli> Ian_Corne: which update ?
[11:59] <glosoli> You mean for removing other dependencies ?
[12:01] <Ian_Corne> well up untill yesterday any update to unity or unity2d wanted to remove ubuntu-desktop
[12:02] <glosoli> Ian_Corne:Hmm this problem didin't occured for me, you could try and check if it still wants to remove
[12:04] <Ian_Corne> maybe i'm using the ppa
[12:04] <Ian_Corne> i dunno
[12:06] <glosoli> You mena Unity PPA  ?
[12:06] <glosoli> I don't use it in Precise
[12:07] <Ben64> ubuntu-desktop isn't important, its just a meta package or something
[12:07] <Ben64> if you remove pulseaudio it says it will remove ubuntu-desktop, but everything still works fine
[12:14] <Ian_Corne> Ben64: i know, but that also means new dependencies that are dragged in with ubuntu-desktop are not installed by default anymore
[12:14] <Ben64> hmm
[12:14] <Ben64> but i hate pulseaudio so much
[12:15] <zzecool> Ian_Corne:  you are right
[12:16] <zzecool> i did this update and i got ubuntu-desktop removed
[12:17] <zzecool> but didnt produce any problem im just not getting new application updates for the packages that are under the ubuntu-desktop meta
[12:17] <zzecool> Ian_Corne: if now gonna try to install ubuntu-desktop there is only one dependency problem and ask me to remove banshee
[12:18] <Ian_Corne> that's weird
[12:18] <Ian_Corne> and banshee's out
[12:18] <Ian_Corne> rhtyhmbox is the 'new' default
[12:18] <zzecool> maybe that why ubuntu desktop wants to remove banshee
[12:19] <zzecool> maybe its a usual behavior
[12:19] <zzecool> normal*
[12:19] <zzecool> let me try
[12:20] <zzecool> hmm
[12:20] <zzecool> yes
[12:20] <zzecool> ubuntu desk tries to install rythm and remove banshee
[12:20] <zzecool> also there is a ubuntu one update
[12:22] <glosoli> zzecool: Any feedback for the dodge ?
[12:22] <zzecool> more ppl press the affect me button
[12:23] <glosoli> How many pressed for now ?
[12:23] <zzecool> i think this is going to be interesting
[12:23] <zzecool> 30 i think
[12:23] <glosoli> I should be interesting, while yesterday worked all day using eclipse, for the first time I found "Always show" so annoying :/
[12:23] <glosoli> eclipse - ide for programming.
[12:24] <zzecool> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/930148
[12:26] <zzecool> glosoli: do you now remember your words calling me " a kid to grow up and get over it because mark moved forward and you like his way of thinking" ???
[12:26] <zzecool> it is just a wrong move
[12:26] <glosoli> zzecool: I already said sorry ;D
[12:26] <zzecool> ;)
[12:27] <glosoli> stop bringing up, nobody is perfect, or are they ?
[12:27] <glosoli> ;D
[12:27] <zzecool> thats why im fighting lol
[12:27] <zzecool> if everything was perfect....
[12:27] <zzecool> i think it was going to be boring ;D
[12:28] <glosoli> zzecool: hmm, but I am curious why just 30 peoples, though there would be more than hundred
[12:28] <zzecool> they dont know about the bug
[12:28] <zzecool> yet
[12:29] <zzecool> and most of the ppl dont realized that they actually  dodge is removed
[12:29] <zzecool> because they dont use precise
[12:29] <zzecool> they only heard about it  =p
[12:29] <glosoli> zzecool: Hmm, do you get Privacy section in System Settings ?
[12:30] <zzecool> let me see
[12:30] <zzecool> yeap
[12:30] <zzecool> it landed before with gnome-control-center
[12:30] <zzecool> :)
[12:31] <zzecool> glosoli: do you have "activity journal" installed?
[12:32] <glosoli> hmm
[12:32] <glosoli> probably no
[12:32] <glosoli> zzecool: what's the package name
[12:32] <zzecool> if you havent delete your activity files using the new privacy setting
[12:32] <zzecool> install it
[12:32] <zzecool> :)
[12:32] <zzecool> its a call app
[12:32] <zzecool> browsing the zeitgeist db
[12:33] <zzecool> in a nice gui
[12:33] <zzecool> :)
[12:33] <zzecool> you can check your files access activity etc  :)
[12:33] <zzecool> what file did you create modify etc what date hour  ....
[12:34] <zzecool> something like a file access calendar
[12:34] <glosoli> hmm
[12:34] <glosoli> Sorry i didin't understand
[12:34] <glosoli> so what the package name :?
[12:34] <zzecool> install it and you will
[12:35] <zzecool> i dont know what
[12:35] <zzecool> gnome-activity-journal
[12:36] <glosoli> ah, thanks found
[12:36] <glosoli> probably it was deleted by dependencies for me
[12:36] <glosoli> some time ago
[12:36] <zzecool> i think its not installed by default
[12:36] <zzecool> i did it manually long time ago in oneiric
[12:36] <glosoli> zzecool: Hmm, it was for my fried,  in btw, do i need to log out  ? coz nothing appeared in sys settings
[12:37] <zzecool> its not in sys ste
[12:37] <zzecool> open dash type activity
[12:37] <zzecool> :P
[12:37] <glosoli> zzecool: aa, but one my friend is getting Privacy Tab in System Settings, where he can tick some thing to make system don't log his actions
[12:38] <zzecool> i got the privacy tab too
[12:38] <glosoli> hmm I dont :/
[12:38] <zzecool> if you remove the activity files using privacy tab
[12:39] <zzecool> activity journal going to be empty
[12:40] <zzecool> glosoli: i did an update 1 hour before and i got new gnome-control-center
[12:40] <zzecool> that how i got privacy
[12:40] <zzecool> :D
[12:40] <glosoli> aaa, maybe restart needed, logout not enough or smth
[12:41] <zzecool> proly
[12:42] <zzecool> i got more updates now as i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop
[12:42] <zzecool> its was removed
[12:42] <zzecool> logout and log in brb
[12:49] <zzecool> back
[12:51] <glosoli> zzecool: what changed ? ;D
[12:52] <zzecool> i got on a self fixed bug
[12:52] <zzecool> lol
[12:52] <zzecool> there was a unity-application lense update
[12:52] <zzecool> and i wasnt able to start any app
[12:52] <zzecool> lense was crashing
[12:53] <zzecool> and i noticed that on the dash there was only the home icon down
[12:53] <zzecool> so i pressed tab to try and change the lanse to the next
[12:53] <zzecool> lense*
[12:53] <zzecool> and al the lenses appeared again
[12:53] <zzecool> :D
[12:53] <glosoli> hah ;D
[12:53] <zzecool> let me logout  again to see if it really fixed
[12:57] <zzecool> glosoli:  no its not fixed
[12:57] <glosoli> what a pitty ;D
[12:57] <zzecool> Unity lense has very buggy behaviour
[12:57] <glosoli> pity''
[12:57] <zzecool> lenses*
[12:57] <glosoli> I hate
[12:57] <glosoli> Unity Lenses for sure
[12:58] <glosoli> I would tike to have more customizability for it
[12:58] <glosoli> like''
[12:58] <zzecool> its ok for me
[12:58] <zzecool> at least they removed the 6 HUGE  BUTTONS  that noone ever used
[13:00] <glosoli> yeah for sure, it was a pain for me to see them
[13:01] <zzecool> om26er_: are you here ?
[13:15] <glosoli> zzecool: he is here
[13:15] <zzecool> maybe afk
[13:15] <zzecool> om26er:  ?
[13:23] <tehowe> How stable is a Beta 1 expected to be - are we talking 'non-LTS release stable', or not quite usable yet?
[13:24] <Daekdroom> Not production machine usable yet.
[13:24] <Daekdroom> i.e. don't use it if you can't afford to have things screwing up
[13:33] <glosoli> zzecool: GUI freeze is February 23th if until that day they didin't add back dodge window, so it won't be occuring in Precise at all ?
[13:34] <om26er> zzecool, i am kind of here
[13:34] <om26er> my internet is killing me
[13:34] <zzecool> probably  or else if more and more ppl come against em on this
[13:34] <zzecool> om26er:  ok :)
[13:34] <zzecool> om26er: can you answer us at what glosoli  just asked me ?
[13:35] <zzecool> om26er: you have a better view of what is happening in "unity"
[13:35] <glosoli> "15:33 <glosoli> zzecool: GUI freeze is February 23th if until that day they didin't add back dodge window, so it won't be occuring in Precise at all ? "
[13:36] <om26er> hmmm, if someone decides to bring it back that probably won't be a problem even after the UIF date
[13:36] <zzecool> ohh great we still have a chance !
[13:36] <zzecool> thank you om26er
[13:36] <zzecool> :)
[13:36] <glosoli> I would like to believe that
[13:36] <glosoli> :/
[13:36] <om26er> yw zzecool ;)
[13:36] <zzecool> om26er: can you tell us your opinion ?  Do you like dodge?
[13:37] <om26er> i liked it but now it seems I love the "always locked" behavior more, it makes me work faster
[13:38] <zzecool> i know what you mean  but i was and still use scale that is quite fast too
[13:38] <zzecool> other than that scale   "super + w" is bugged now
[13:38] <zzecool> and only brings windows form the current workspace on
[13:38] <zzecool> from*
[13:39] <glosoli> om26er: trying to get used to that too
[13:39] <om26er> zzecool, i think there was a bug for that, i.e. the launcher stays hidden if you press super+w
[13:40] <om26er> that will probably be fixed before release
[13:40] <zzecool> me and glosoli  allrdy  report this
[13:41] <zzecool> if you open gconf or CCSM  super + w is under   "initiate window picker for all windows"
[13:41] <zzecool> but it acts like "initiate window picker"  only for current
[13:42] <zzecool> strange is that if you press and hold super key to reveal the shortcuts wallpaper "  its supose to bring up windows only from the current workspace"
[13:42] <om26er> bug 933492 ??
[13:42] <zzecool> which is wrong
[13:42] <zzecool> no
[13:42] <zzecool> wait
[13:43] <glosoli> You need link for that bug zzecool  ?
[13:43] <zzecool> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/933776
[13:43] <zzecool> i found it
[13:46] <zzecool> If this is the the operation that we had to expect  as described in "shortcuts wallpaper - cheatsheet"  then they used and change the behavior of the scale plugin because in ccsm you can see that the "initiate window picker for all windows" is used instead of "initiate window picker"   which is wrong
[13:48] <zzecool> if you try and use both " *** window "  "**** for all windows"   there is no change in behavior the result is the same it only picks form the current
[13:49] <zzecool> om26er: ?  =)
[13:49] <tehowe> Daekdroom: Ah perhaps I'd better hold off until Beta 2 then
[13:50] <Daekdroom> tehowe, no, the thing is. No matter how stable it might be, we can't be sure nothing will go wrong
[13:52] <tehowe> Daekdroom: Ah, well things are always going wrong, in a minor way, with my Natty and Oneiric installs.
[13:53] <zzecool> tehowe: sure thing is that precise alpha 1 was way more stable that oneiric beta  was  ;p
[13:53] <glosoli> tehowe: Using Precise as the only OS in Computer. Everything seems to be fine, unless you are too lazy to watch what upgrade or dist-upgrade offers you. Sometimes it asks to remove packages without which system couldn't operate properly anymore, I just press No, and Live until they fix dependencies. :)
[13:53] <tehowe> Daekdroom: Maybe a better question might be, if I could sacrifice my netbook to beta-testing, would reports on hardware incompatibilities with some specific device be useful at this late stage
[13:53] <Daekdroom> tehowe, yes, they would.
[13:54] <glosoli> zzecool: How are you feeling about hud ? ;D
[13:54] <tehowe> March 1st it is then. If I'm just using that machine to browse online and work on stuff in my Dropbox, it sounds liek I could probably get by.
[13:55] <glosoli> zzecool: Pressing ALT button mistakenly most of the times - for me ;D
[13:55] <zzecool> glosoli: they need to find a better way  so there is no conflict with alt + other buttons shortcuts
[13:55] <zzecool> they should use Hud only with Alt RELEASE
[13:56] <zzecool> so it only bring up hud if you tap alt
[13:56] <zzecool> it will*
[13:56] <tehowe> zzecool: Does it come up and get in the way if you're using some ALT-x shortcut in the shell?
[13:56] <zzecool> yes
[13:56] <tehowe> Wow
[13:56] <zzecool> like alt + printscrn
[13:57] <glosoli> zzecool: are there any possibility to change hud shortcut ?
[13:57] <tehowe> ALT-num in irssi
[13:57] <zzecool> or alt + shift  ( to change language )
[13:57] <Daekdroom> glosoli, ccsm can do that
[13:58] <zzecool> tehowe: first option on CCSM unity plugin
[13:58] <zzecool> ops sry
[13:58] <zzecool> glosoli:
[13:58] <glosoli> huh
[13:58] <zzecool> there are allrdy numerous back report and they are address to be fixed in unity 5.6.0
[13:58] <glosoli> cant edit shortcut
[13:58] <glosoli> only options to disable
[13:59] <zzecool> back = bug*
[13:59] <glosoli> ah fine now
[13:59] <zzecool> reports* addressed*
[13:59] <zzecool> omg im a typo machine
[13:59] <zzecool> lol
[14:03] <glosoli> zzecool: changed shortcut and it seems to barely work, sometimes shows sometimes not at all
[14:04] <zzecool> no need to try more
[14:04] <glosoli> zzecool: what you mean ? ;D
[14:04] <zzecool> as all this gonne be addressed in unity 5.6.0
[14:05] <zzecool> om26er:  are you alive  ?  :P
[14:06] <glosoli> zzecool: It should be out by February 23th ?
[14:06] <om26er> i belive that was a design decision
[14:07] <zzecool> om26er: then why they didnt use "initiate window picker"   instead  of "initiate picker for all windows"
[14:07] <zzecool> this is a bug
[14:07] <om26er> bug 689733
[14:07] <zzecool> yes ok
[14:08] <om26er> seems that's the bug after which the behavior was changed per design's request :D
[14:08] <zzecool> but they are using the wrong call function
[14:10] <zzecool> om26er: take a look here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24436243/Screenshot%20at%202012-02-20%2016%3A09%3A17.png
[14:11] <zzecool> They should have used  the first group  "initiate window picker"   instead the one they are using now  "initiate window picker for all windows"
[14:11] <om26er> alright, I understand
[14:11] <Ian_Corne> ccsm is a system breaker
[14:11] <zzecool> i thought you didnt
[14:11] <zzecool> :)
[14:11] <om26er> but the thing is the current behavior is implemented in Unity itself
[14:11] <zzecool> i dont have a problem with this
[14:12] <om26er> and not in the compiz scale plugin
[14:12] <zzecool> as soon as i can get "far all" back
[14:12] <zzecool> om26er: rly?
[14:12] <Daekdroom> No, it isn't.
[14:13] <zzecool> so they merged scale in unity plugin ?
[14:13] <Daekdroom> Because it's possible to change the shortcut in the scale addon.
[14:14] <om26er> yep seems like it :/
[14:14] <zzecool> om26er: feel free to change the Title of ur bug report to something that may describe the problem a bit better
[14:15] <zzecool> why start merging things like that into unity ?
[14:15] <zzecool> i dont like this ....
[14:15] <glosoli> zzecool: I accedantily zommed desktop, do you know shortcut to unzoom ? :DDD
[14:15] <om26er> i don't like that either
[14:15] <sahil_> rye, u there?
[14:15] <om26er> let me update the bug
[14:16] <zzecool> glosoli: Super + mousewheel
[14:16] <om26er> should I update the bug to say that the change that was happened in Unity is over ridding compiz plugin ?
[14:16] <zzecool> my english is not the best
[14:17] <zzecool> i described to you in my best way
[14:17] <zzecool> :P
[14:17] <zzecool> Do your best :
[14:17] <zzecool> :)
[14:17]  * om26er is kind of surrounded by alot of people who are acting like clowns :p
[14:18] <htorque> #ubuntu+1 is serious business! ;-)
[14:18] <sahil_> how to check what graphics driver i am running now? i mean gallium/fgrlx/mesa/vesa?
[14:19] <sahil_> system info is showing nothing!
[14:19] <sahil_> no driver name is written
[14:20] <Daekdroom> glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[14:20] <zzecool> om26er: i think i know what is happening or where they try to head with ubuntu
[14:20] <sahil_> thnx...
[14:20] <Daekdroom> Well, it tells you which driver Mesa is using.
[14:20] <sahil_> sahil@sahil:~/Desktop$ glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[14:20] <sahil_> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[14:20] <sahil_>   Major opcode of failed request:  153 (GLX)
[14:20] <sahil_>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)
[14:20] <sahil_>   Serial number of failed request:  12
[14:20] <sahil_>   Current serial number in output stream:  12
[14:20] <zzecool> om26er: they want to make it idiot-proof  and remove the ability to modify or change it in any way
[14:20] <sahil_> O.o
[14:21] <zzecool> sahil_: pleaseuse pastepin
[14:21] <zzecool> sahil_: please use pastepin
[14:21] <sahil_> it was small output so used here directly...
[14:21] <sahil_> okey
[14:21] <om26er> zzecool, you also need to consider the fact there is no maintainer for all these crappy compiz plugins
[14:21] <sahil_> will use pastebin
[14:21] <zzecool> om26er: i know
[14:21] <om26er> almost every plugin is unmaintained
[14:21] <zzecool> this is a problem yes
[14:22] <htorque> i feel like the only plugin i need is grid. add that to unity-2d and i'm good without compiz. :P
[14:22] <zzecool> why not maintain the plugin independently but maintain it after it is marged
[14:22] <zzecool> merged*
[14:23] <zzecool> htorque: grid is maybe the bugiest*
[14:23] <zzecool> of all
[14:23] <htorque> it works kinda fine here. :)
[14:23] <om26er> I hope to see Expo and Spread replaced by something unity genuine
[14:24] <om26er> so they better integrate with the rest of the system
[14:25] <zzecool> om26er: if it is to keep the same level of configuration yes i hope so
[14:26] <zzecool> om26er: but it looks like they dont  like high level of configuration but only default options
[14:27] <sahil_> zzecool, i am having graphics driver problem ... :(
[14:27] <zzecool> sahil_:  which is ?
[14:27] <Ian_Corne> he installed the ati driver from the site
[14:27] <zzecool> form the site?
[14:27] <Ian_Corne> and an update broke his libgl thing
[14:28] <zzecool> sahil_: try to remove the fglrx driver using synaptic  completely
[14:28] <zzecool> and use the drivers tool supplied with ubuntu
[14:28] <sahil_> i cant insatll fgrlx...i dont know where i broke my system.now when i insatll fgrlx,on the restart i end up in a limbo,i hadto activate a tty then purge the drivers then restart
[14:29] <zzecool> make sure you are only using the official sources and not some random ppa's
[14:29] <zzecool> with experimental ati drivers
[14:30] <zzecool> purge fglrx reboot and install using "additional drivers" tool
[14:31] <sahil_> no i havnt....actually i broke my sysem when ubuntu tweak removed some config files...with the help of rye,a guy over here in xcaht i recovered from crush...but after sucessfully insatlling graphics driver,i by mistake executed unity --reset
[14:32] <zzecool> this isnt somehting bad
[14:32] <zzecool> to reset the unity
[14:32] <sahil_> since then when ever i install somewhere i saw..kernal mismatch or something like dat during installation
[14:32] <rye> sahil_, are you running that .run file? or the version from ubuntu repos?
[14:32] <zzecool> when you say install what do you mean ?
[14:33] <zzecool> are you using "additional drivers" tool or not?
[14:33] <sahil_> sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates
[14:33] <sahil_> i tryed this
[14:33] <zzecool> this isnt the propper way
[14:33] <sahil_> i already have 12.1 catalyst driver downlaoded in my machine
[14:33] <zzecool> open your dash and type drivers
[14:34] <zzecool> please listen to me
[14:34] <sahil_> u want me to use jockey?
[14:34] <zzecool> yes
[14:34] <zzecool> but first
[14:34] <zzecool> remove anything about fglrx
[14:34] <zzecool> using synaptics
[14:34] <zzecool> and make a reboot
[14:34] <sahil_> rye, where did i do wrong wen we bith had a chat?
[14:34] <sahil_> both*
[14:35] <sahil_> zzecool, xserver is related to fgrlx?
[14:35] <zzecool> no
[14:35] <rye> sahil_, do not use that .run driver unless the repos one is failing
[14:35] <sahil_> xserver ~x.org i guess?
[14:35] <zzecool> and
[14:35] <zzecool> and yes
[14:35] <zzecool> no
[14:35] <zzecool> sahil
[14:35] <zzecool> open synaptic
[14:35] <zzecool> type fglrx
[14:36] <sahil_> ya opened...fgrlx is not installed but raedontool
[14:36] <zzecool> and remove only packages that have fglrx into their name
[14:36] <zzecool> wait
[14:37] <sahil_> xserver-xorg-video-raedon?
[14:37] <sahil_> do i have to remove dat?
[14:37] <zzecool> no
[14:37] <zzecool> its doesnt have the work fglrx
[14:37] <zzecool> word*
[14:37] <sahil_> okey...so othing is installed...so m raedy to use jockey?
[14:38] <sahil_> nothing*
[14:38] <zzecool> first reboot
[14:38] <zzecool> and then yes
[14:38] <sahil_> okey...will jocjey give me the latest catalyst version ?
[14:38] <sahil_> 11.11 catalyst was very buggy
[14:39] <zzecool> sec
[14:39] <sahil_> catalyst or fglrx watever
[14:40] <zzecool> no i think its the 11.11
[14:40] <zzecool> this is the latest on the repos
[14:40] <sahil_> :(
[14:40] <zzecool> if by buggy you mean that unity is slow
[14:40] <sahil_> its was dead slow desktop experience in oneric
[14:40] <zzecool> this is a known bug and gonna be fixd in unity 5.6.0
[14:41] <zzecool> You can still use unity 2d until they fix that
[14:41] <sahil_> but wen i insatlled 12.1 (untill restart) i was having a good time...)ad game also was very playable,and so was the HD movies
[14:41] <zzecool> rly ?
[14:42] <sahil_> yes..
[14:42] <zzecool> basicly this cant be happening
[14:42] <zzecool> because if you install and dont restart the driver module isnt loaded
[14:42] <sahil_> i dont knw...but i got better exerince then 11.11
[14:42] <zzecool> there is somehting else
[14:43] <oCean> heh, daily build still says welcome to 11.10
[14:44] <zzecool> oCean:  wait i have you a fix for that
[14:44] <oCean> zzecool: I don't need a fix, the image should get fixed :)
[14:44] <oCean> bug #936619
[14:45] <zzecool> ohh this one ?
[14:45] <zzecool> i thought on the boot screen
[14:46] <zzecool> while loading to boot into ubuntu
[14:51] <DonaldShimoda> hi
[14:51] <DonaldShimoda> how to change font sizes on gnome ?
[14:52] <zzecool> om26er_:  Scale   : super+ w  isnt merged in unity plugin because   if you  disable scale  shortcut  "super + W"  or change it stops working
[14:53] <zzecool> om26er_: other than that if you try to disable scale plugin there is a dependency warning  that scale is need it by unity plugin
[14:54] <zzecool> So the bug report is real  and nothing is merged into unity plugin yet.
[14:54] <om26er_> i didn't say it has been merged into Unity but
[14:54] <zzecool> ohh
[14:54] <zzecool> my bad then
[14:54] <om26er_> the further change have been implemented in Unity
[14:54] <om26er_> this is the related branch I guess  https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/workspace-aware-launcher/+merge/89429
[14:55] <zzecool> Or you  gonna handle the bug report title please ? :)
[14:58] <zzecool> om26er_: this isnt the point though
[14:59] <DonaldShimoda> any way to change gnome workspaces frome to any?
[14:59] <zzecool> DonaldShimoda:  ?
[14:59] <zzecool> what
[14:59] <zzecool> DonaldShimoda: what do you want to change  ?
[15:00] <DonaldShimoda> zzecool, rigth side , workspaces...
[15:00] <DonaldShimoda> are you using gnome or unityu?
[15:00] <zzecool> unity
[15:01] <zzecool> DonaldShimoda: You are asking about a way to change the workspaces to what exctly/
[15:01] <zzecool> exactly?
[15:01] <DonaldShimoda> is clear the question, i suppose if you dont use gnome dont get it
[15:01] <zzecool> .......
[15:02] <zzecool> both "unity" and "gnome shell" are using gnome
[15:02] <DonaldShimoda> dont you know what is a workspaces then?
[15:02] <zzecool> now tell me what do you want to do ?
[15:02] <zzecool> yes i know
[15:02] <DonaldShimoda> i need fair more than 3 workspaces...
[15:03] <zzecool> so you want to change the number of the workspaces .......
[15:03] <zzecool> are you in gnome shell ?
[15:03] <DonaldShimoda> yes
[15:03] <DonaldShimoda> yes
[15:03] <zzecool> In gnome shell workspaces is are dynamic
[15:03] <zzecool> you can set a staic number
[15:04] <zzecool> static
[15:04] <DonaldShimoda> excellent, nice trick dynamic is better
[15:04] <DonaldShimoda> another question, any way to make work conky or some like this?
[15:05] <zzecool> DonaldShimoda: i think you are in the wrong channel
[15:05] <zzecool> here is a channel about ubuntu precise
[15:05] <DonaldShimoda> im ussing ubuntu precise...
[15:05] <DonaldShimoda> ?
[15:06] <DonaldShimoda> zzecool, why do you think im on the wrong channel?
[15:07] <zzecool> Because you will not find support about how to run conky in gnome shell here
[15:07] <zzecool> Here we mostly bug hunt about precise bugs
[15:07] <zzecool> this is what this channel is for
[15:07] <DonaldShimoda> zzecool, ok, i will change the question
[15:07] <zzecool> and not for random application support on precise
[15:07] <DonaldShimoda> zzecool, theres any other visualizer ala conky on precise?
[15:08] <DonaldShimoda> zzecool, how can anybody informa  bug if dont testing all the applications precise include?
[15:09] <zzecool> Ubuntu doesnt come installed by Default with unity
[15:09] <DonaldShimoda> uh????
[15:09] <zzecool> it doesn include  conky , awm , or any other launcher
[15:09] <DonaldShimoda> which is the default desktop for ubuntu?
[15:09] <zzecool> unity
[15:10] <DonaldShimoda> then read what you write...
[15:10] <zzecool> Unity  or Unity 2d depends on graphics card
[15:10] <DonaldShimoda> Ubuntu doesnt come installed by Default with unity
[15:10] <zzecool> yeah my bad
[15:10] <DonaldShimoda> ok
[15:10] <zzecool> Ubuntu comes installed by Default with unity
[15:10] <DonaldShimoda> any way to change font size or fonts in unity?
[15:11] <Daekdroom> Install gnome-tweak-tool
[15:12] <zzecool> http://www.installubuntulinux.com/2011/09/howto-change-system-font-sizes-in.html
[15:12] <zzecool> DonaldShimoda: you can use google for questions like that i just used google to answer you
[15:12] <DonaldShimoda> zzecool, that is related to older versions
[15:13] <DonaldShimoda> zzecool, enyway thanks for your lack of help
[15:13] <Daekdroom> Nope. Gnome-tweak-tool is used since the transition to GNOME 3
[15:13] <Daekdroom> Which is when the old appearance window was removed.
[15:15] <zzecool> DonaldShimoda:  your questions are general and fits the  #ubuntu  channel    im sure there ar emany ppl willing to help you there
[16:56] <p1l0t> WOAH
[16:58] <valdur55> p1l0t, hello! What is your problem?
[16:58] <glosoli> zzecool: There was bugfix released for Screenshoot tool, now it asks again where to save
[17:00] <p1l0t> valdur55: nothing
[17:01] <jrgifford> what... i liked how screenshot didn't ask where to save. :P
[17:02] <jrgifford> i thought that was a real feature. :S
[17:03] <glosoli> jrgifford: Probably it was, but people started asking, I think you can set it somehow with dconf-tools
[17:03] <glosoli> to do silent screenshoot to pictures folder
[17:05] <ironhalik> I thought screenshots were put into your clipboard :)
[17:06] <glosoli> ironhalik: No, they were put into Pictures folder by default
[17:10] <jrgifford> glosoli, i'll try and set that up then. thanks
[17:11] <glosoli> jrgifford: yw
[17:17] <sahil_> hiii
[17:18] <sahil_> is there any way to keep filer search of dash alaways visible?
[17:18] <sahil_> i mean filter*
[17:18] <Daekdroom> sahil_, I think the Dash 'remembers' when you had the filter open for a certain lens
[17:20] <sahil_> all it seams to remember is my typed alphabets onm the dash...its looks less consistent design ...ifeel the big 8 icons was better
[17:21] <sahil_> i want each time i click dash...it should pop out like a new session  showing installed programs and filters on
[17:21] <sahil_> Daekdroom, is there any way to do that?
[17:21] <Daekdroom> sahil_, what exactly are you talking about?
[17:22] <Daekdroom> Dash itself or home lens?
[17:22] <Daekdroom> Home lens does not have a filter. Every other (default) lens does
[17:22] <Daekdroom> and the big 8 icons were removed because they were kinda useless: the program icons were barely used by anybody because people fixed apps on the Launcher.
[17:22] <sahil_> oh...no filters for home.. :(
[17:23] <sahil_> btw why home lens remembers my keystroke?
[17:23] <Daekdroom> It's on purpose.
[17:23] <Daekdroom> like every other lens does.
[17:23] <sahil_> everytime i have to remove them then type ...kinda annyoing
[17:24] <sahil_> like if i type xc ( for xchat) next time i open dash,it returns me the same result for xc instead of new session..
[17:25] <Daekdroom> I know.
[17:25] <sahil_> is this a bug ...or a weird "feature"
[17:25] <Daekdroom> You could file a bug report asking for the home lens to not remember.
[17:25] <Daekdroom> It's a feature.
[17:26] <Daekdroom> (but bug reports are useful for 'wishes' too)
[17:26] <sahil_> ya i guess called wishlets or something i guess...
[17:26] <sahil_> and those tiny scrollbars!!!
[17:27] <Daekdroom> wishlist
[17:27] <sahil_> and the application lens icon i suposed to be educational type icon!
[17:28] <sahil_> looks like a pen penscil and scale
[17:28] <sahil_> i mean ruler
[17:29] <sahil_> Daekdroom, can i amke application my deafult lens?
[17:29] <Daekdroom> Huh.. I don't know.
[17:32] <sahil_> how to amke skype icon monochrome?
[17:33] <Daekdroom> I think I've seen an article on that somewhere, but I can't remember. Haha.
[17:35] <sahil_> lol
[17:36] <sahil_> the icon in the right most corner in the panal what is it called?power icon?
[17:37] <Daekdroom> Power & Settings?
[17:37] <Daekdroom> Well. Those are the two things you find there.
[17:38] <sahil_> well i love the icon,but when i use elementary theme,it gets replaced by a monitor icon...i wish to keep that icon provided by ubuntu
[17:47] <valdur55> Damn... lubuntu-default-settings (0.24) precise have double XF86AudioLowerVolume on rc.xml file
[17:48] <valdur55> And i thinked why Lowervolume mutes volume
[18:05] <sahil_> hi is it possible to install vmware workstation 8 ?
[18:05] <trism> sahil_: the icon is system-devices-panel (for your earlier indicator-session question)
[18:06] <sahil_> oh...
[18:06] <trism> sahil_: /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mono-dark/status/22/system-devices-panel.svg specifically in the default ubuntu theme
[18:07] <sahil_> trism, thnx a lot!!!
[18:09] <sahil_> trism, can i installvmware workstation in precise?
[18:17] <trism> sahil_: I don't know, haven't used vmware in a while, but it looks like you may need to patch it to work with 3.2, from a quick search: http://slackblogs.blogspot.com/2012/01/vmware-workstation-802-and-linux-kernel.html
[18:18] <Error404NotFound> I am trying to upgrade to 12.04 and get http://pastebin.com/HM9pgMA5 , any ideas?
[18:27] <h00k> woah, the corner tooltip changed when windows are resizbable, cool.
[18:27] <h00k> It is a series of dots.
[18:27] <h00k> by tooltip, I mean...not mouse icon, but the little...corner triangle dealio
[18:30] <bjsnider> Error404NotFound, looks like it's already mounted
[18:30] <bjsnider> try unmounting it and using the apt-cdrom add command
[18:32] <zzecool> glosoli:
[18:32] <glosoli> zzecool: ?
[18:32] <zzecool> do you have a network in your house?
[18:33] <Error404NotFound> bjsnider: so i am not supposed to mount iso before running cdromupgrade? how do i run it then? do i run apt-cdrom to mount it?
[18:33] <zzecool> or laptop is the only pc
[18:33] <zzecool> ?
[18:33] <glosoli> there any three windows laptops  - my roommates, in all of them I restricted sharing networking and etv
[18:33] <glosoli> etc''
[18:33] <bjsnider> Error404NotFound, the first thing apt-cdrom tried to do after you rant he command was it tried to mount the cdrom to its own mount point
[18:33] <zzecool> ahh great
[18:34] <glosoli> there are''
[18:34] <glosoli> zzecool: what's the problem ?
[18:34] <zzecool> glosoli: today i lost the network access
[18:34] <glosoli> zzecool: HMm, how ?
[18:34] <zzecool> nautilus is not responding if i press browse network
[18:34] <Error404NotFound> bjsnider: hmm, ok
[18:34] <zzecool> and if i waiti for about 3 min it opens but cant see any computer.
[18:35] <zzecool> glosoli: open nautilus ------> browse network  and tell me if you see the windows network
[18:35] <glosoli> Yes I see
[18:35] <zzecool> rly?
[18:35] <glosoli> yes
[18:35] <bjsnider> Error404NotFound, look for yourself, as soon as you run the command it says "Using CD-ROM mount point /media/apt/"
[18:35] <glosoli> WORKGROUP even
[18:35] <zzecool> in no time ?
[18:35] <glosoli> Failed to retrieve share list from server
[18:36] <zzecool> or it takes time?
[18:36] <glosoli> zzecool: yes in no time
[18:36] <zzecool> but failed to retrive list
[18:36] <zzecool> hmmm
[18:36] <bjsnider> then it says "W: Failed to mount '/dev/sr0' to '/media/apt/'"
[18:36] <glosoli> zzecool: failed to retrieve list, because these computers doesn't share any files
[18:36] <glosoli> probably ?
[18:36] <zzecool> no
[18:36] <zzecool> im sharing many
[18:37] <Error404NotFound> bjsnider: actually iso is mounted at /media/cdrom
[18:37] <bjsnider> right, so just unmount it
[18:37] <bjsnider> and then re-run the command, probably need to be root
[18:37] <zzecool> and either you should see the admin shares that are enabled by default on win7
[18:37] <zzecool> its a bug
[18:38] <zzecool> something broke it  and i think i know some security network libraries
[18:51] <huayra> I got a very nasty bug: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/850339/
[18:51] <huayra> Tried updating throught the GUI instead of apt-get (what was I thinking!!??)
[18:51] <huayra> and now it's broken
[18:56] <Error404NotFound> bjsnider: i am getting http://pastebin.com/TK8ywa3M , doing it without mounting and no, nothing is mounted on /media/cdrom or /media/apt
[18:56] <bjsnider> try manually mounting to /media/apt
[18:58] <Error404NotFound> worked, howcome? is this a convention? if i am not forgetting i use to mount iso on /media/cdrom and it used to work.
[18:59] <bjsnider> well, it's now being looked for at /media/apt
[19:03] <Error404NotFound> bjsnider: thanks, gotta try upgrade :)
[19:04] <glosoli> zzecool: are you here ?
[19:05] <zzecool> sec im eating
[19:05] <glosoli> zzecool: Ok, after you eat, may you look at my bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/936091
[19:09] <zzecool> ok
[19:10] <zzecool> glosoli: its works fine on me
[19:11] <zzecool> when i hover the signs are lighten up
[19:11] <glosoli> zzecool: eh :( for most of the people works that's why nobody press affects me button
[19:11] <zzecool> maybe it is fglrx problem ?
[19:11] <zzecool> i dont know
[19:12] <glosoli> zzecool: Hmm, dunno mightbe
[19:12] <zzecool> what theme?
[19:12] <zzecool> in any theme?
[19:13] <zzecool> glosoli: if you open nautilus and hover the mouse over a file or folder do you se the icon light up?
[19:13] <glosoli> zzecool: sure I do
[19:13] <zzecool> hmm
[19:14] <glosoli> zzecool: when windows maximized , I also do
[19:15] <glosoli> zzecool: it's for metacity only
[19:15] <zzecool> i dont know
[19:16] <glosoli> zzecool: I checked, in unity everything's fine - when maximized windows :/
[19:28] <zzecool> glosoli:
[19:28] <zzecool> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/936899
[19:29] <glosoli> zzecool: I pressed, would you mind pressing on mine too :) ?
[19:31] <zzecool> OK
[19:31] <zzecool> done
[19:31] <glosoli> thanks :)
[19:31] <zzecool> np
[19:32] <zzecool> 36 ppl on dodge
[19:32] <zzecool> we are going up slowly
[19:38] <glosoli> zzecool: Wish someone from the up, would check that bug for Dodge
[19:38] <glosoli> from the top''
[19:38] <Daekdroom> Does anyone know which package I should report against, given Clementine is not using appmenu-qt?
[19:41] <glosoli> Daekdroom: hmm indicator-appmenu ?
[19:47] <johnjohn101> still having problems with pangolin in vmware session where host computer goes to sleep and pangolin doesn't come back
[19:57] <zzecool> glosoli: i just uninstalled  the "idiot" rhythmbox
[19:57] <zzecool> banshee is way better
[19:57] <zzecool> clementine also
[19:57] <glosoli> zzecool: I uninstall it right after os install, I don't use either banshee or clementine, hate them :DD
[19:58] <mikeconcepts> is the voice control aspect of HUD available yet for testing?
[19:58] <Daekdroom> mikeconcepts, nope
[19:59] <mikeconcepts> Daekdroom, thanks for that, will be awesome
[20:06] <glosoli> zzecool: I use Audacious, because i hate all others ;D
[20:12] <zzecool> glosoli: i found that if they mark your bug as duplicate its almost impossible to find it back
[20:12] <glosoli> zzecool: which your bug was marked as a dublicate ?
[20:12] <zzecool> im searching to find one bug report that i did the one with the google chrome video
[20:12] <zzecool> .....
[20:17] <glosoli> zzecool: Couldn't it be merged ?
[20:18] <zzecool> i cant find my report
[20:18] <zzecool> im searchin on my mail
[20:23] <jo-erlend> I'm seeing extreme amounts of totem-video-thumbnailer instances since the video lens was introduced...
[20:24] <jo-erlend> it skyrockets my system load from time to time.
[20:24] <zzecool> ok i found it
[20:42] <GordonShamway> Hallo Leute, habe gerade Ubuntu 12.04 32bit installiert. Habe ein sau schlechtes Schriftbild. Das ändern der Hinting Option mit dem dconf-editor hat nichts gebracht. Was kann ich noch tun, damit es funktioniert?
[20:43] <GordonShamway> oh. i just installed 12.04 and have a very bad fontview, changing the hinting option didnt work out for me. is there a different option which i could try to get the job done?
[20:44] <mainerror> GordonShamway: Can you make a screenshot and post it here?
[20:45] <GordonShamway> how can i make a screenshot in unity?
[20:45] <ironhalik> Hmm, I lost hibernation :/
[20:45] <GordonShamway> strg + print doesnt work
[20:45] <ironhalik> uh, print screen?
[20:46] <jrgifford> GordonShamway, just hit print screen. works for me.
[20:46] <GordonShamway> not for me^^
[20:46] <mainerror> Just print screen. Alternatively you can install Shutter.
[20:46] <ironhalik> if not, GordonShamway, you can execute 'gnome-screenshot' via alt+f2 or terminal
[20:46]  * mainerror likes Shutter
[20:46] <ironhalik> gnome-screenshot is the thing bound to print screen
[20:46] <ironhalik> just launch it :)
[20:47] <GordonShamway> ah ok worked out
[20:47] <GordonShamway> http://www.pic-upload.de/view-13052794/Screenshot-at-2012-02-20-21-46-06.png.html http://www.pic-upload.de/view-13052794/Screenshot-at-2012-02-20-21-46-06.png.html
[20:48] <GordonShamway> there it is
[20:48] <GordonShamway> maybe you should zoom in.... there are lines in the fonts
[20:48] <GordonShamway> everything like unsharp
[20:48] <GordonShamway> iḿ on a 42" tv
[20:49] <ironhalik> hmm, looks the same for me
[20:49] <ironhalik> mine are bolded a bit :)
[20:50] <mainerror> I'm not sure to be honest. I think it might be your monitor.
[20:50] <mainerror> It looks good for me.
[20:51] <ironhalik> from my expirience, connecting PC to larger TVs was not the best ideas :)
[20:51] <mainerror> I mean 1360x768 on a 42" monitor is kinda insane. :D
[20:51] <ironhalik> for text, that is
[20:51] <ironhalik> oh, its not fullhd
[20:51] <ironhalik> well, it should look good from the couch :)
[20:51] <ironhalik> 10 feet away
[20:52] <mainerror> On a 42" screen it might look good even from the moon. :P
[20:53] <ironhalik> GordonShamway: you can look for 'nautilus fonts'
[20:57] <GordonShamway> dont know what u mean
[20:57] <ironhalik> nvm, install dconf-editor
[20:57] <ironhalik> and go to org.gnome.nautilus.desktop
[20:57] <ironhalik> and there you can edit the fonts
[20:58] <ironhalik> mine is Ubuntu 11
[20:58] <GordonShamway> mine too
[20:58] <GordonShamway> but it looks awful
[20:59] <GordonShamway> when i started ubuntu with the live cd everything looked fine in a smaller screen on this tv
[20:59] <ironhalik> well, it maybe scalling issue
[20:59] <ironhalik> the fonts are too small now?
[21:00] <GordonShamway> not too small but unclear with white lines inbetween
[21:01] <ironhalik> no idea if it is intended to help with your problem
[21:01] <ironhalik> but theres a 'tv-fonts' package
[21:01] <mainerror> I still think it is the screen.
[21:01] <GordonShamway> 09.04 worked out of the box
[21:01] <ironhalik> yeah its the screen, but there prolly is some solution
[21:02] <ironhalik> GordonShamway: what video font you're using?
[21:02] <ironhalik> video card*
[21:02] <GordonShamway> NVideia
[21:03] <ironhalik> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions#All_my_fonts_look_like_they_are_the_wrong_sizes.2C_how_can_I_correct_this.3F
[21:03] <ironhalik> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Specifying_DPI_for_NVIDIA_Cards
[21:04] <ironhalik> your tv has a whoopin 37 dots per inch
[21:04] <ironhalik> while the optimum for computer displays is ~94
[21:05] <ironhalik> it may be that ubuntu currently is not setting the dpi properly
[21:06] <GordonShamway> whoopin?
[21:06] <GordonShamway> so i have to set it in the nvidia settings?
[21:09] <ironhalik> hmm, the best way to check it out
[21:09] <ironhalik> would be by playing with the fonts via gnome-tweak-tool
[21:09] <ironhalik> install it via apt
[21:11] <GordonShamway> installed it but dont know how to start it
[21:11] <GordonShamway> unity doesnt find it
[21:12] <ironhalik> type 'tweak'
[21:12] <ironhalik> it will be named 'advanced settings'
[21:12] <ironhalik> also, this could be helpful
[21:12] <GordonShamway> oh i did that already with no effort
[21:12] <ironhalik> http://askubuntu.com/questions/59850/is-it-possible-to-change-font-dpi-in-11-04
[21:13] <ironhalik> sorry for no obvious solution, but you need to play around
[21:13] <ironhalik> its not a exactly documented process :)
[21:19] <GordonShamway> when i change the dpi in the tweak tool, do i have to restart?
[21:19] <ironhalik> in gnome-tweak-tool, no, in the gconf-editor, yeah
[21:19] <ironhalik> or at least logout and login
[21:19] <ironhalik> but not sure :)
[21:20] <ironhalik> you can killall lightdm :)
[21:20] <GordonShamway> i try to log offand on
[22:03] <dupondje> Really nothing will be included in Precise for Nvidia Optimus ? :(
[22:15] <iceroot> dupondje: linux-3.2 is supporting optimis (if the mails on lkml are true)
[22:16] <iceroot> dupondje: it was disabled before because of memory leaks
[22:39] <jakubo> yay, icons and top panel are back! thanks
[22:39] <jakubo> and sounds!
[22:56] <Walo> hi
[23:40] <dat789> hi! a little help with my Microsoft LifeCam Cinema, please... I've installed Cheese but no picture is coming up. Just a black screen.
[23:40] <dat789> output of lsusb --> Bus 002 Device 010: ID 045e:075d Microsoft Corp. LifeCam Cinema
[23:40] <dat789> and it's precise
[23:43] <dat789> hello...?
[23:46] <penguin42> hmm
[23:47] <penguin42> dat789: Has it worked for you on an earlier version?
[23:49] <penguin42> dat789: It sounds like bug 930671
[23:51] <dat789> hi hi
[23:51] <dat789> no, i'm a new migrant to Ubuntu / linux
[23:52] <dat789> the Ubuntu i'm using is 12.04 (precise)
[23:52] <penguin42> dat789: Generally it's not a good idea to use testing/alpha releases for your first time!
[23:52] <dat789> someone said to use Oneiric
[23:52] <penguin42> dat789: That's good advice
[23:52] <dat789> bummer. should have known better
[23:53] <dat789> so does that mean I have to revert ... to 11.10 (Oneiric) ?
[23:53] <Daekdroom> Reinstall.
[23:53] <penguin42> dat789: Yeh you can't downgrade; it'll have to be a reinstall; however, can you just confirmt hat your bug corresponds to bug 930671 ?
[23:54] <dat789> i've got version 10.04 on CD
[23:55] <dat789> i don't know how to check that
[23:55] <dat789> wait.. let me go there
[23:55] <dat789> yep. that is exactly what i am experiencing
[23:55] <dat789> menus greyed out
[23:55] <dat789> video blank
[23:56] <dat789> guvcview not able to launch either
[23:56] <penguin42> dat789: OK, probably a good idea to subscribe to that bug - that will also mark it as confirmed since there are two of you experiencing it - please add a comment saying you have the same thing on 12.04
[23:58] <dat789> how to say it affects me too?
[23:58] <penguin42> (if it's not just cheese then it's more likely a kernel bug)
[23:58] <penguin42> dat789: There's a little yellow pencil at the top of that which says 'Does this bug affect you?' - click it
[23:58] <Daekdroom> Doesn't he need a Launchpad account?
[23:59] <penguin42> yes he does indeed