=== urlin2u is now known as urfr332gO === urlin2u is now known as urfr332gO [01:15] hmm, even with git libmtp, HP Touchpad will appear in mtp-detect, but not in Nautilus or Banshee. [01:17] oh, I see... it's not supposed to appear in nautilus. === c_smith is now known as c_smith_ [01:21] but it should appear in banshee. [01:33] init(4) no available ptys You guys happen to know anything about that from a recent +1 update? [01:48] MTeck: when booting? can you try adding --no-log to the kernel command line and see if that helps? [01:51] trism: that made it come up [01:53] trism: so- what's up with it? [01:54] MTecknology: can you please file a bug against upstart about this, ubuntu-bug upstart; mention the init no available ptys message and that you can boot with --no-log [01:54] MTecknology: are you getting a Kernel Panic on bootup? [01:55] c_smith_: no- just sits there scrolling those messages faster than a machine gun [01:55] trism: will do [01:56] MTecknology: ah, I see. I got Kernel Panics on my laptop on bootup only until recently. [02:01] trism: not much info in there, but it's filed as bug 936667 [02:01] Launchpad bug 936667 in upstart (Ubuntu) "init(4): no available ptys stops boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/936667 [02:06] MTecknology: thanks, I'll try to reproduce this in a bit, what is your upstart version? apt-cache policy upstart; also could you pastebin: ls -l /etc/init/; curious if you have for services [02:06] if = what [02:07] added that info [03:35] howdy [03:35] is there some deb or PPA for a build of the Ubuntu kernel from the 3.3 series? [03:44] aroman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [03:45] micahg: fantastic, that's exactly what I was looking for. thanks. [04:45] i guess it's a known bug you can't click to close the hud? [05:09] I am on ubuntu 12.04, is there a way to either disable the HUD or least change what key its on? [05:14] why does vlc wants to insall openjdk when upgrading to 2.0? [05:15] so im the only one that has a problem with this HUD thing being on the ALT key? lol === jeff_ is now known as rattatoue [05:29] Hi everyone [05:33] babai: which openjdk package? [05:35] micahg: openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib default-jre-headless [05:35] and some icedtea plugins [05:48] babai: confirmed, just not sure why [06:47] any common problems with dns resolution in precise ? [06:48] i have random dns resolution failures [06:48] in any software (host command, google chrome, firefox...) [06:49] sometimes have to hit reload in a browser 5-10 times and then it suddenly works [06:55] vega-: change your dns provider? === jeff_ is now known as rattatoue [06:56] for example: try using 8.8.8.8 (google name server) and see if the problem persists [06:56] Okay my problem wasnt nvidia breaking opengl, my problem was XBMC just doesnt want to install right [06:59] susundberg: actually, it seems to have settled now when i turned wlan off completely [06:59] actual connection is wired but somehow wlan seems to be interfering [07:01] vega-: i guess it might, for example if it finds weak open wlan that it connects to (that timeouts at time to time ..) [07:01] but happy surfing ;) [08:15] hi [08:21] hello my unity is broken...this is what i get wen i type unity --reset [08:21] http://pastebin.com/1kjzfJCB [08:21] m on precise pangolin [08:23] on fallback gnome classic..everything is fine..from graphics to desktop tearing.also,no greeter screen comes directly.i have to initiate a tty via ctrl+alt+(f1-f6) then ctrl +alt+f7 [08:25] i weep for precise.. but really.. its not that bad [08:26] when i was a teenager.. i had high hopes for linux being the desktop of the future [08:26] im now 30.. things havn't changed as much as people who are involved in the process seem to think ;) [08:27] especially when it seems that the small base that they have, become increasingly alienated with each release [08:28] linux is not about conquering the world [08:29] its about thinking about "we" before "i" [08:58] hmm which flash-package is the correct one: flashplugin-installer or adobe-flashplugin ? [09:02] yes :) [09:02] anybody here? [09:03] helo? [09:03] http://pastebin.com/1kjzfJCB [09:04] my unity is broken...help :( [09:06] sahil_: try running unity2d [09:06] it's not unity that's broken [09:06] you're missing some GL stuf [09:07] [09:07] didnt gey u.. [09:07] get* [09:07] u mean i have to reinsatll my ati driver? [09:08] that could help [09:08] I'm at work, so i won't be responding much, sorry [09:09] lan_Corne, how to do that on the first place?i knw how to inatll...but dont know how to unsinsatll [09:09] m currently running catalyst version 12.1 [09:10] k [09:12] it's Ian [09:12] not lan! [09:13] use unity2d and use the driver install program [09:13] he quit [09:14] ah [09:21] Hello, chkconfig doesn't seem to work in 12.04, "/sbin/insserv: No such file or directory" Is it just wrong path or what is going on? [09:26] whereis insserv doesn't show any path to any binaries whatsoever [09:27] hmmm [09:27] anybody here? [09:28] i removed few config files via ubuntu tweak janitor [09:29] and since then my precise unity desktop is brken... [09:29] can anybody help? [09:31] ... [09:34] sahil_, Im not the ideal helper, since I don't currently run unity, but maybe you could tell us what you experince? [09:35] okey...thethere is no greeter or login screen poping up by default in order to log in,i first activate a tty and then ctrl+alt+f7 then login appears [09:36] after that wen i enter desktop(unity/gnome) there is no panal,just desktop and icon...however menubar is present in each window instaed of global menu(no panal) [09:37] when i type unity --reset,border goes away and i get this: [09:37] http://pastebin.com/1kjzfJCB [09:38] skumlesen, so wat u think? [09:39] my swap partition fails to mount at boot in 12.04. Anyone else have that problem? [09:39] i m not feeling any graphics related issue as there desktop is smooth even 0ad is playable nicely [09:41] scarleo, are the UUIDs in /etc/fstab and in the swap "filesystem" intact - look at /dev/disk/by-uuid [09:42] sahil_, you seem to be missing an OpenGL library, are you running on nvidia? [09:42] rye: It is correct in etc/fstab but the disk is not present in /dev/disk/by-uuid [09:42] rye,ati raedon [09:42] scarleo, so did you mount the swap partition now manually? [09:42] i used ubuntu teweak and cleared config files...taht messed up all [09:42] rye: I will reformat it first, then try to mount it [09:43] tweak* [09:43] scarleo, yes, it will get new UUID and then you can update the fstab [09:43] rye: exactly [09:44] rye, so wat u think? [09:44] scarleo, that happened to me once 2 or 3 years ago [09:44] sahil_, well, i think you are missing an OpenGL library, is there a file in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 ? [09:45] rye,wait let me check [09:45] rye: how can I identify which one is the swap? :S [09:45] sahil_, or, if you are on x86_64 it will be in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 [09:46] scarleo, sudo fdisk -l [09:46] rye: yes but I don't get the uuid from there [09:49] scarleo, ah, uuid - sudo swaplabel /path/to/device [09:49] rye: I have an 11.10 install here as well so I don't want to mount the wrong one as swap [09:49] rye: ok, I'll try that [09:51] rye, there is no folder named x86_64-linux-gnu [09:53] sahil_, do you have libgl1-mesa-glx installed, try sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-glx [09:55] rye, so now shall i restart or wat? [09:55] rye,i did sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-glx [09:56] sahil_, well, you can try resettting unity [09:56] u mean unity --rest? [09:56] reset* [09:56] sahil_, yes [09:57] i hav to use sudo for that? [09:57] thanks rye it's working fine now [09:58] scarleo, goood [09:58] so just one small annoying thing left, I have to modprobe -r wl ssb b43; every boot and then modprobe wl; again to get wifi going. [09:58] ssb and b43 are already blacklisted but it seems I have to reload wl [09:59] scarleo: There should be some modprobe config file for automatically loading modules at boot. I'm not sure where is it in Ubuntu, if it even exists, I only know that they must be put in /etc/rc.conf in Arch. [09:59] nyuszika7h: thanks, but wl is already loaded, thing is I have to unload it and then reload it again to get it actually do something [10:01] scarleo, well, the bad workaround is to add the reloading to /etc/rc.local, but I don't have any broadcom device now to test why wl needs to be reset [10:02] I'll try that, thanks [10:02] rye ,m running on vesa now [10:02] unity working though [10:03] my system hav fgrlx insatlled aswell [10:04] sahil_, as I understand, the missing libgl library is overriden by fireglx package, you might want to reinstall the ati drivers [10:04] rye,how to reinsall? [10:04] install === popey_ is now known as popey [10:05] i have locally downlaoded the driver run file [10:05] nope adding the reloading to rc.local didn't work. What permissions is rc.local run with? [10:06] rye,i have amd-driver-installer-12-1-x86.x86_64.run in /home/sahil/catalyst folder [10:07] sahil_, you will need to reinstall it to get the proprietary libgl [10:08] how to do that via cli? [10:09] rye, how to do that via cli? [10:11] sahil_, just execute the .run file - chmod +x filename if it is not yet, then do ./filename if it is in current directory [10:13] rye,insatller is saying a previous version of fgrlx is been detcted [10:13] sahil_, overwrite if possible [10:13] installer is saying a previous version of fgrlx is been detected [10:14] is it not possible to uninstall at the first place? [10:14] fgrlx --uninstall -f ?? [10:15] sahil_, /usr/share/fglrx/fglrx-uninstall.sh ? [10:16] ahil@sahil:~/Desktop$ /usr/share/fglrx/fglrx-uninstall.sh [10:16] bash: /usr/share/fglrx/fglrx-uninstall.sh: No such file or directory [10:18] rye,sahil@sahil:/usr/share/fglrx$ fglrx-uninstall.sh [10:18] fglrx-uninstall.sh: command not found [10:18] sahil_, ./fglrx-uninstall.sh ? [10:18] sahil_, sudo ./fglrx-uninstall.sh i guess [10:19] sahil_, ah, nevermind, let me look at what's in package [10:19] sahil@sahil:/usr/share/fglrx$ sudo ./fglrx-uninstall.sh [10:19] sudo: ./fglrx-uninstall.sh: command not found [10:20] rye, hey system is showing some broken package alert [10:21] rye,an update has arived but:fglrx-amdcccle-updates: Depends: fglrx-updates but it is not installed [10:21] Depends: libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.5.3) but 4:4.8.0-1ubuntu5 is installed [10:21] Depends: libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3) but 4:4.8.0-1ubuntu5 is installed [10:22] sahil_, well, you can definitely use the fglrx package from ubuntu repos, sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates [10:26] rye,not working [10:26] sahil_, define not working === Chipaca` is now known as Chipaca [10:30] RYE,pastebin.com/d0MPVmk9 [10:30] rye,pastebin.com/d0MPVmk9 === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [10:33] looks like your custom fglrx installation borked your ubuntu package [10:35] no it worked fine untill ubuntu tweak janitor screwed my system === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [10:58] does anyone know if we will be able to set color profiles system-wide in 12.04? the switch during the session start is rather unpleasant to the eye. ;-) [11:38] Someone else check this out [11:38] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/936899 [11:38] Launchpad bug 936899 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Nautilus cant access network - Browse Network and Hung there." [Undecided,New] [11:42] so silent, o updates :/ :D [11:47] true [11:48] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/936899 [11:48] Launchpad bug 936899 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Nautilus cant access network - Browse Network and Hung there." [Undecided,New] [11:48] check this horrible bug [11:48] ill brb [11:58] glosoli: unity update is fixed? [11:59] Ian_Corne: which update ? [11:59] You mean for removing other dependencies ? [12:01] well up untill yesterday any update to unity or unity2d wanted to remove ubuntu-desktop [12:02] Ian_Corne:Hmm this problem didin't occured for me, you could try and check if it still wants to remove [12:04] maybe i'm using the ppa [12:04] i dunno [12:06] You mena Unity PPA ? [12:06] I don't use it in Precise [12:07] ubuntu-desktop isn't important, its just a meta package or something [12:07] if you remove pulseaudio it says it will remove ubuntu-desktop, but everything still works fine [12:14] Ben64: i know, but that also means new dependencies that are dragged in with ubuntu-desktop are not installed by default anymore [12:14] hmm [12:14] but i hate pulseaudio so much [12:15] Ian_Corne: you are right [12:16] i did this update and i got ubuntu-desktop removed [12:17] but didnt produce any problem im just not getting new application updates for the packages that are under the ubuntu-desktop meta [12:17] Ian_Corne: if now gonna try to install ubuntu-desktop there is only one dependency problem and ask me to remove banshee [12:18] that's weird [12:18] and banshee's out [12:18] rhtyhmbox is the 'new' default [12:18] maybe that why ubuntu desktop wants to remove banshee [12:19] maybe its a usual behavior [12:19] normal* [12:19] let me try [12:20] hmm [12:20] yes [12:20] ubuntu desk tries to install rythm and remove banshee [12:20] also there is a ubuntu one update [12:22] zzecool: Any feedback for the dodge ? [12:22] more ppl press the affect me button [12:23] How many pressed for now ? [12:23] i think this is going to be interesting [12:23] 30 i think [12:23] I should be interesting, while yesterday worked all day using eclipse, for the first time I found "Always show" so annoying :/ [12:23] eclipse - ide for programming. [12:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/930148 [12:24] Launchpad bug 930148 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dodge windows is down but what about making the launcher autohide only on maximised apps ?" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [12:26] glosoli: do you now remember your words calling me " a kid to grow up and get over it because mark moved forward and you like his way of thinking" ??? [12:26] it is just a wrong move [12:26] zzecool: I already said sorry ;D [12:26] ;) [12:27] stop bringing up, nobody is perfect, or are they ? [12:27] ;D [12:27] thats why im fighting lol [12:27] if everything was perfect.... [12:27] i think it was going to be boring ;D [12:28] zzecool: hmm, but I am curious why just 30 peoples, though there would be more than hundred [12:28] they dont know about the bug [12:28] yet [12:29] and most of the ppl dont realized that they actually dodge is removed [12:29] because they dont use precise [12:29] they only heard about it =p [12:29] zzecool: Hmm, do you get Privacy section in System Settings ? [12:30] let me see [12:30] yeap [12:30] it landed before with gnome-control-center [12:30] :) [12:31] glosoli: do you have "activity journal" installed? [12:32] hmm [12:32] probably no [12:32] zzecool: what's the package name [12:32] if you havent delete your activity files using the new privacy setting [12:32] install it [12:32] :) [12:32] its a call app [12:32] browsing the zeitgeist db [12:33] in a nice gui [12:33] :) [12:33] you can check your files access activity etc :) [12:33] what file did you create modify etc what date hour .... [12:34] something like a file access calendar [12:34] hmm [12:34] Sorry i didin't understand [12:34] so what the package name :? [12:34] install it and you will [12:35] i dont know what [12:35] gnome-activity-journal [12:36] ah, thanks found [12:36] probably it was deleted by dependencies for me [12:36] some time ago [12:36] i think its not installed by default [12:36] i did it manually long time ago in oneiric [12:36] zzecool: Hmm, it was for my fried, in btw, do i need to log out ? coz nothing appeared in sys settings [12:37] its not in sys ste [12:37] open dash type activity [12:37] :P [12:37] zzecool: aa, but one my friend is getting Privacy Tab in System Settings, where he can tick some thing to make system don't log his actions [12:38] i got the privacy tab too [12:38] hmm I dont :/ [12:38] if you remove the activity files using privacy tab [12:39] activity journal going to be empty [12:40] glosoli: i did an update 1 hour before and i got new gnome-control-center [12:40] that how i got privacy [12:40] :D [12:40] aaa, maybe restart needed, logout not enough or smth === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson [12:41] proly [12:42] i got more updates now as i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop [12:42] its was removed [12:42] logout and log in brb === Guest90411 is now known as Aranel [12:49] back [12:51] zzecool: what changed ? ;D [12:52] i got on a self fixed bug [12:52] lol [12:52] there was a unity-application lense update [12:52] and i wasnt able to start any app [12:52] lense was crashing [12:53] and i noticed that on the dash there was only the home icon down [12:53] so i pressed tab to try and change the lanse to the next [12:53] lense* [12:53] and al the lenses appeared again [12:53] :D [12:53] hah ;D [12:53] let me logout again to see if it really fixed [12:57] glosoli: no its not fixed [12:57] what a pitty ;D [12:57] Unity lense has very buggy behaviour [12:57] pity'' [12:57] lenses* [12:57] I hate [12:57] Unity Lenses for sure [12:58] I would tike to have more customizability for it [12:58] like'' [12:58] its ok for me [12:58] at least they removed the 6 HUGE BUTTONS that noone ever used [13:00] yeah for sure, it was a pain for me to see them [13:01] om26er_: are you here ? === om26er__ is now known as om26er [13:15] zzecool: he is here [13:15] maybe afk [13:15] om26er: ? [13:23] How stable is a Beta 1 expected to be - are we talking 'non-LTS release stable', or not quite usable yet? [13:24] Not production machine usable yet. [13:24] i.e. don't use it if you can't afford to have things screwing up [13:33] zzecool: GUI freeze is February 23th if until that day they didin't add back dodge window, so it won't be occuring in Precise at all ? [13:34] zzecool, i am kind of here [13:34] my internet is killing me [13:34] probably or else if more and more ppl come against em on this [13:34] om26er: ok :) [13:34] om26er: can you answer us at what glosoli just asked me ? [13:35] om26er: you have a better view of what is happening in "unity" [13:35] "15:33 zzecool: GUI freeze is February 23th if until that day they didin't add back dodge window, so it won't be occuring in Precise at all ? " [13:36] hmmm, if someone decides to bring it back that probably won't be a problem even after the UIF date [13:36] ohh great we still have a chance ! [13:36] thank you om26er [13:36] :) [13:36] I would like to believe that [13:36] :/ [13:36] yw zzecool ;) [13:36] om26er: can you tell us your opinion ? Do you like dodge? [13:37] i liked it but now it seems I love the "always locked" behavior more, it makes me work faster === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:38] i know what you mean but i was and still use scale that is quite fast too [13:38] other than that scale "super + w" is bugged now [13:38] and only brings windows form the current workspace on [13:38] from* [13:39] om26er: trying to get used to that too [13:39] zzecool, i think there was a bug for that, i.e. the launcher stays hidden if you press super+w [13:40] that will probably be fixed before release [13:40] me and glosoli allrdy report this [13:41] if you open gconf or CCSM super + w is under "initiate window picker for all windows" [13:41] but it acts like "initiate window picker" only for current [13:42] strange is that if you press and hold super key to reveal the shortcuts wallpaper " its supose to bring up windows only from the current workspace" [13:42] bug 933492 ?? [13:42] Launchpad bug 933492 in unity (Ubuntu) "The launcher should be always visible in Expo mode" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933492 [13:42] which is wrong [13:42] no [13:42] wait [13:43] You need link for that bug zzecool ? [13:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/933776 [13:43] Launchpad bug 933776 in compiz (Ubuntu) ""Super + W" window picker only shows local windows, not all." [Undecided,Confirmed] [13:43] i found it [13:46] If this is the the operation that we had to expect as described in "shortcuts wallpaper - cheatsheet" then they used and change the behavior of the scale plugin because in ccsm you can see that the "initiate window picker for all windows" is used instead of "initiate window picker" which is wrong [13:48] if you try and use both " *** window " "**** for all windows" there is no change in behavior the result is the same it only picks form the current [13:49] om26er: ? =) [13:49] Daekdroom: Ah perhaps I'd better hold off until Beta 2 then [13:50] tehowe, no, the thing is. No matter how stable it might be, we can't be sure nothing will go wrong [13:52] Daekdroom: Ah, well things are always going wrong, in a minor way, with my Natty and Oneiric installs. [13:53] tehowe: sure thing is that precise alpha 1 was way more stable that oneiric beta was ;p [13:53] tehowe: Using Precise as the only OS in Computer. Everything seems to be fine, unless you are too lazy to watch what upgrade or dist-upgrade offers you. Sometimes it asks to remove packages without which system couldn't operate properly anymore, I just press No, and Live until they fix dependencies. :) [13:53] Daekdroom: Maybe a better question might be, if I could sacrifice my netbook to beta-testing, would reports on hardware incompatibilities with some specific device be useful at this late stage [13:53] tehowe, yes, they would. [13:54] zzecool: How are you feeling about hud ? ;D [13:54] March 1st it is then. If I'm just using that machine to browse online and work on stuff in my Dropbox, it sounds liek I could probably get by. [13:55] zzecool: Pressing ALT button mistakenly most of the times - for me ;D [13:55] glosoli: they need to find a better way so there is no conflict with alt + other buttons shortcuts [13:55] they should use Hud only with Alt RELEASE [13:56] so it only bring up hud if you tap alt [13:56] it will* [13:56] zzecool: Does it come up and get in the way if you're using some ALT-x shortcut in the shell? [13:56] yes [13:56] Wow [13:56] like alt + printscrn [13:57] zzecool: are there any possibility to change hud shortcut ? [13:57] ALT-num in irssi [13:57] or alt + shift ( to change language ) [13:57] glosoli, ccsm can do that [13:58] tehowe: first option on CCSM unity plugin [13:58] ops sry [13:58] glosoli: [13:58] huh [13:58] there are allrdy numerous back report and they are address to be fixed in unity 5.6.0 [13:58] cant edit shortcut [13:58] only options to disable [13:59] back = bug* [13:59] ah fine now [13:59] reports* addressed* [13:59] omg im a typo machine [13:59] lol [14:03] zzecool: changed shortcut and it seems to barely work, sometimes shows sometimes not at all [14:04] no need to try more [14:04] zzecool: what you mean ? ;D [14:04] as all this gonne be addressed in unity 5.6.0 [14:05] om26er: are you alive ? :P [14:06] zzecool: It should be out by February 23th ? [14:06] i belive that was a design decision [14:07] om26er: then why they didnt use "initiate window picker" instead of "initiate picker for all windows" [14:07] this is a bug [14:07] bug 689733 [14:07] Launchpad bug 689733 in Compiz "Application icons should only display windows from the current workspace in the window spread" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/689733 [14:07] yes ok [14:08] seems that's the bug after which the behavior was changed per design's request :D [14:08]