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| TheMuso | superm1: You're a core-dev, so you should hae direct commit access to lp:~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu.precise | 00:45 |
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| slangasek | lamont: did you file a bug about the nm-applet memory usage problem? I'm seeing the same problem here (though I noticed it at < 3GB, I didn't wait for it to hit 6GB) | 01:03 |
| RAOF | slangasek: lifeless was also seeing that; I believe he filed a bug. | 01:04 |
| slangasek | RAOF: right, bug #930491 then - thanks | 01:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 930491 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "Large memory leak in nm-applet" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930491 | 01:06 |
| micahg | slangasek: I think cyphermox said he fixed some of that with the latest nm upload, but there's more to do | 01:16 |
| slangasek | micahg: ah, well, it's possible that fixing that bug is why nm-applet now won't *restart* for me ;) | 01:18 |
| slangasek | (glibc free() assert) | 01:18 |
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| Sarvatt | 31mb usage after 2 days uptime here, nm-applet is definitely much better that it was here | 02:21 |
| cyphermox | slangasek: ah, will look into it. could you get me a backtrace (things work here, so it might be that you have some device I couldn't test and messed up) | 02:24 |
| slangasek | cyphermox: bug #936644 | 02:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 936644 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu Precise) "nm-applet assert failure: *** glibc detected *** nm-applet: free(): invalid pointer: 0x0000000001eb1370 ***" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/936644 | 02:24 |
| cyphermox | thanks | 02:24 |
| slangasek | so it's related to the new patch changes | 02:24 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 02:25 |
| cyphermox | I know what causes this, weird that this doesn't affect me too though | 02:26 |
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| lifeless | cyphermox: slangasek: | 02:29 |
| lifeless | 2386 robertc 20 0 3014m 1.8g 12m S 0 24.1 27:53.58 nm-applet | 02:29 |
| lifeless | Sarvatt: ^ not that much better :P | 02:30 |
| cyphermox | indeed | 02:30 |
| cyphermox | actually, it depends a lot on how much noise is around -- if there's a lot of changes in scan results, it tends to go up faster | 02:30 |
| lifeless | well, i have an N network | 02:31 |
| lifeless | and iwlwifi | 02:31 |
| cyphermox | something is still broken in the menu updates but I'm having a hard time tracking it down | 02:31 |
| lifeless | so my network reconnects like crazy | 02:31 |
| cyphermox | lifeless: ah | 02:31 |
| cyphermox | guess that would make sense yeah :/ | 02:31 |
| lifeless | combined with it not remembering my credentials, thats pretty annoying (which is presumably related to the lack of themeing ...) | 02:31 |
| Sarvatt | wow, yeah the networks barely ever change here | 02:31 |
| cyphermox | Sarvatt: you're seeing it behaving better because before it was updating on every signal level change... a little too agressivel | 02:32 |
| superm1 | TheMuso: yeah I realized that shortly later. I pushed it through | 03:30 |
| TheMuso | superm1: ok thanks. | 03:42 |
| wzssyqa | gpg --export-secret-subkey xxxxxxxx > sub.gpg give an error: gpg: key yyyyyyyy: not protected - skipped why? | 03:56 |
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| superm1 | could someone clarify a seed question for me? mythbuntu isos are fairly oversized right now. if something that is only pulled in via recommends of something seeded is added to the mythbuntu.precise/blacklist file, will that keep it from getting pulled in or have some other undesirable effect? | 07:43 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:46 |
| micahg | doko: would it be nice to drop gnat-4.4 for precise | 08:20 |
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| Sweetshark | Hi there, looking for an package sponsor as piiti is on vacation. | 08:58 |
| tumbleweed | !sponsorship|Sweetshark | 09:04 |
| ubottu | Sweetshark: You can find out about the package sponsorship process here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess - For !UDS sponsorship see http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/ | 09:05 |
| Sweetshark | tumbleweed: ok thx, let put that different: as pitti in on vacation, i need somebody else daring to upload libreoffice-3.5.0-1ubuntu1 to precise. its already parked on chinstrap and waiting to be picked up. | 09:10 |
| tumbleweed | ah, libreoffice. I can see why you may not want the usual queue | 09:11 |
| Sweetshark | tumbleweed: ;) | 09:12 |
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| geser | Sweetshark: have you considered to apply for PPU rights for libreoffice so you can upload yourself in future? | 09:41 |
| dholbach | geser, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BjoernMichaelsen/YourDeveloperApplication :) | 09:43 |
| Sweetshark | dholbach: ;) | 09:44 |
| Sweetshark | i found a victim on #ubuntu-desktop it seems. | 09:45 |
| tumbleweed | more victims are also useful for endorsements on that PPU application. We like people to have worked with multiple sponsors | 09:46 |
| micahg | good, I was worried I was going to have nightmares worrying that it'll still need sponsoring in the morning my time :) | 09:46 |
| Sweetshark | micahg: the Linux philosophy is "laugh in the face of danger" http://groups.google.com/group/linux.dev.kernel/msg/74ee0b1d6420cd08 | 09:51 |
| hrw | doko: what do you think about http://u.42.pl/2HXy patch? it is needed to get cross compiler built for multilib arm - I am keeping it in gcc-4.6/cross package | 09:59 |
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| doko | hrw: why is this necessary? | 10:30 |
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| hrw | doko: dpkg-shlibdeps otherwise is not able to find libc6 for armhf | 10:34 |
| hrw | doko: and vice versa if build for armhf | 10:35 |
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| cortexuvula | Hi all. I have written an Quickly app and started a project on Launchpad. I have updated setup.py with the url of the project. Clicking on Help-> Report a problem produce an error that this is not an ubuntu package | 12:08 |
| cortexuvula | my question is: How do I link the app and the project | 12:09 |
| kelemengabor | cyphermox: hi, could you take a look at the merge proposal for bug #875017 ? | 12:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 875017 in Ubuntu Translations "Translation for "Wired Connection %s" not displayed" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/875017 | 12:10 |
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| cyphermox | kelemengabor: got my comments? | 14:26 |
| kelemengabor | cyphermox: yes | 14:27 |
| kelemengabor | I'll resubmit it, thanks | 14:28 |
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| peaceZ | hello all | 14:32 |
| peaceZ | i wanted to burn de cd of pangolin to make some test but it is 715mb and i could not overburn it using brasero and k3b on a 700mb cd :d | 14:33 |
| peaceZ | what to do please except than buy 800mb cd ? is it some files i can delete without problems ? as languages files or anything low importance ? | 14:33 |
| apw | jodh, is this one actually upstart? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/936256 | 14:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 936256 in linux (Ubuntu) "kernel panic on boot" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:38 |
| jodh | apw: Just marked it as dup of 935585. | 14:40 |
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| cyphermox | peaceZ: no, you pretty much need all the files (or what you could remove isn't likely to give you enough space). as an alternative you could burn the ISO image to a USB key if you have one large enough | 14:48 |
| apw | bug #935585 | 14:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 935585 in upstart (Ubuntu) "[kernel panic] init: log.c:786: Assertion failed in log_clear_unflushed: log->remote_closed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/935585 | 14:49 |
| apw | is the unity-video lens nailing the crap out of their disk for anyone else? | 14:52 |
| seb128 | apw, not that I noticed but I'm on a ssd and I don't watch ios closely, you should open a bug if that happens to you in any case ;-) | 14:53 |
| apw | seb128, it seems to be reading everything in my home directory | 14:53 |
| seb128 | urg | 14:54 |
| apw | its been humping my disk for 10m now | 14:54 |
| apw | -o /home/apw/.cache/unity-lens-video/videos.db -l 0 -U /home/apw | 14:54 |
| apw | it doesn't seem to be limiting itself to my videos directory | 14:54 |
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| seb128 | apw, report a bug please, what value has XDG_VIDEOS_DIR in .config/user-dirs.dirs? | 14:55 |
| apw | $ grep XDG_VIDEOS_DIR ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs | 14:56 |
| apw | XDG_VIDEOS_DIR="$HOME/" | 14:56 |
| apw | this is one of those where if you remove empty directories which you don't use the desktop loses its mind, isn't it | 14:56 |
| seb128 | apw, that might be part of the issue | 14:56 |
| seb128 | apw, yes ;-) | 14:56 |
| apw | that happened with pictures as well, as they were empty i don't have them | 14:57 |
| seb128 | well it fallback to the dir under the one your deleted | 14:57 |
| seb128 | so Videos -> user dir | 14:57 |
| seb128 | it's a bad idea to delete the standard xdg dirs | 14:57 |
| seb128 | not sure how we can message that to users though | 14:57 |
| peaceZ | cyphermox, my laptop does not enable usb boot, unluckily, thank you for your reply | 14:57 |
| seb128 | one way would be to recreate them for you at every login :p | 14:58 |
| apw | or perhaps we could just behave sensibly in the face of resonable user behaviour | 14:58 |
| apw | seb128, if i remake it will the world recover ? | 14:58 |
| seb128 | apw, prompt a dialog asking if you are sure to want to remove those directory with a warning of the side effects? | 14:58 |
| apw | seb128, and against what do i file a bug, i'd not like to blame unity when its not | 14:58 |
| seb128 | apw, you can just tweak .config/user-dirs.dirs to whatever dir you want the video dir to be | 14:59 |
| apw | seb128, ok i'll do that, i should file a bug, even if it gets closed 'Don't do that', so that others can find the symptoms | 15:00 |
| seb128 | apw, right, I'm trying to figure what they do, if they just index the video dir it's technically not a bug on their side, it's not especially new | 15:00 |
| seb128 | we keep getting bugs about nautilus getting really slow because people delete "Templates" | 15:01 |
| apw | the video lens is brand spanking new though isn't it | 15:01 |
| seb128 | and the dir fallback to the user dir | 15:01 |
| seb128 | then nautilus tries to build templates with your whole userdir content | 15:01 |
| apw | perhaps we should fall back to '.empty' and make one thats empty | 15:01 |
| seb128 | apw, right, the issues due to xdg dirs deletions are not new though | 15:01 |
| apw | seb128, oh i probabally have that too | 15:01 |
| seb128 | apw, ideally we would lock down the dirs on the fs and don't let users delete them or something | 15:02 |
| seb128 | or at least display a warning dialog when somebody does saying they are asking for issues | 15:02 |
| apw | its a bit of a strange paradimn though, as it makes sense to keep everything say to do with ones 'wedding' in one place | 15:02 |
| seb128 | apw, well, we could fallback to an empty dir yes, but then you would get i.e no video indexed and not understand why | 15:03 |
| apw | so forceing me to put my videos in one place and pictures in another for an event ... is going to hurt heads | 15:03 |
| seb128 | apw, until we get something that doesn't suck to replace inotify we can't do much better | 15:03 |
| apw | what is inotify missing which prevents this from working ? | 15:04 |
| seb128 | apw, you can't watch your whole user dir | 15:04 |
| seb128 | it's limited to 32k watches or something | 15:04 |
| seb128 | so basically you have to watch the main dir and go through all the subdir every time something change | 15:04 |
| seb128 | you can't tell inotify "just let me know when something in the user dir change" | 15:04 |
| seb128 | or rather "let me know what changed" | 15:05 |
| seb128 | apw, well in any case yes please open a bug on "unity-lens-video", I will comment on it | 15:08 |
| apw | seb128, i can see why, that would be vastly expensive for the kernel to do | 15:08 |
| seb128 | apw, I think it should be easy to just not index if the Video dir is the user dir | 15:08 |
| apw | it would have to know that someone was watching somewhere higher in the hierachy | 15:08 |
| seb128 | apw, well the bottom line is that there is no way to monitor files through an user dir which is not io expensive | 15:08 |
| apw | whcih would be a lock heavy and extremly time consuming operation on every single io | 15:09 |
| apw | seb128, how about we have a Media directory instead | 15:09 |
| seb128 | apw, well we have music, pictures and videos | 15:09 |
| seb128 | they could be subdir of a media though | 15:09 |
| seb128 | apw, but yeah, those could do with some design thinking | 15:10 |
| apw | i wonder what happens if i point them all to Media/ which is what i mean really | 15:10 |
| seb128 | thing is that you don't want shotwell to index your music for example | 15:10 |
| apw | so i can have Media/wedding/* | 15:10 |
| seb128 | or rhythmbox to index your photos | 15:10 |
| apw | i would hope shotwell would know that a tarball isn't something it can index | 15:10 |
| apw | and same with rhythmbox | 15:10 |
| seb128 | I guess design will said that the solution would be to have one application doing music, video and photos | 15:11 |
| seb128 | apw, right, they still watch their library though | 15:11 |
| apw | yeah probabally | 15:11 |
| seb128 | the more you watch, the more you wake up looking at stuff to see that you don't care about those | 15:11 |
| seb128 | anyway | 15:11 |
| seb128 | going back to the issue | 15:12 |
| seb128 | please open a bug on unity-lens-video saying that it gets confused when the video xdg got deleted | 15:12 |
| seb128 | and please subscribe me to the bug ;-) | 15:12 |
| seb128 | I doubt we will address the different directories for different medias this cycle | 15:12 |
| seb128 | but we can probably handle the cases where some xdg dir needed got deleted | 15:12 |
| apw | no probabally not as i am not sure design agree my concern is valid anyhow | 15:13 |
| apw | in their model i mean | 15:13 |
| seb128 | would it be by displaying a dialog at login telling about the issue and the side effect it has an asking you if you want to pick another dir for $MEDIA | 15:13 |
| * apw will file something, and go remake these directories | 15:13 | |
| seb128 | login or whenever it detects that the directory is being deleted | 15:13 |
| apw | does anyone know what the offical matrix key binding is? as i have it appearing at random | 15:16 |
| seb128 | apw, alt | 15:19 |
| apw | seb128, doing what with alt? single press? | 15:20 |
| seb128 | apw, that's a known bug, should be fixed this week, it appear if you alt-tab sometimes or if you alt-screenshot | 15:20 |
| seb128 | apw, yes, a simple tap, i.e just press and relax without using other keys | 15:20 |
| seb128 | apw, though it's buggy and i.e alt-printscreen or sometimes alt-tab done quickly will trigger it | 15:20 |
| seb128 | bug #925293 | 15:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 925293 in Unity Distro Priority "Plugins can't tell the difference between a modifier key-tap, and a modifier key-release (after being used to modify other keys)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925293 | 15:21 |
| seb128 | apw, ^ | 15:21 |
| apw | ahh ok, thats odd as i didn't think it was single-tap from playing with it, but double, strange | 15:21 |
| apw | seb128, are cursors mean to work once you have typed a term ? | 15:22 |
| seb128 | apw, cursors? | 15:23 |
| apw | seb128, i am looking for something to select anything other than the first entry in the suggestions list | 15:23 |
| seb128 | oh, you mean in the hud? down arrow should work | 15:23 |
| seb128 | it works for me | 15:23 |
| apw | it seems to highlight the first one, nothing seems to work here | 15:23 |
| seb128 | keypad arrows don't work though | 15:24 |
| seb128 | if that's what you try | 15:24 |
| seb128 | but the normal "down" arrow should go down | 15:24 |
| apw | seb128, what keysym is it bound to ? | 15:25 |
| apw | doesn't work with any of the down arrows on any of my keyboards | 15:25 |
| seb128 | dunno, it works for me with | 15:26 |
| seb128 | state 0x10, keycode 116 (keysym 0xff54, Down), same_screen YES, | 15:26 |
| seb128 | i.e "Down" | 15:26 |
| apw | seb128, ok mine is producing Down, and no dice | 15:26 |
| seb128 | you might want to ask on #ubuntu-unity about it | 15:26 |
| apw | i'll file a bug | 15:27 |
| apw | any idea what one files matrix things in ? | 15:27 |
| seb128 | apw, https://code.launchpad.net/~gordallott/unity/hud/+merge/90085 | 15:28 |
| seb128 | that was the feature merge | 15:28 |
| seb128 | it might have code clues | 15:28 |
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| seb128 | gord, ^ | 15:29 |
| seb128 | apw, gord might be able to help you, he did most of the unity side of the hud | 15:29 |
| apw | seb128, Videos thingy filed and you sub'd | 15:29 |
| seb128 | gord, is there any known issue where down doesn't work to navigate through the hud suggestions? | 15:29 |
| seb128 | apw, thanks | 15:29 |
| apw | seb128, interesting the keys which produce Left and Right work to move in the entry box ok | 15:30 |
| gord | seb128, saw the same issue with the dash earlier, not looked at it yet though | 15:31 |
| seb128 | unity bug then I guess... | 15:31 |
| apw | gord, xev says my up and down arrows produce Up and Down as keys, so i am a bit confused | 15:32 |
| apw | seb128, i've got those numbers stuck on again, having fiddled with hud for a bit, perplexing | 15:34 |
| seb128 | apw, what numbers? | 15:35 |
| apw | seb128, the black numbers in the launcher, when you hold for a while on Super | 15:35 |
| apw | the hints for the Super+<n> functionaolity | 15:35 |
| apw | have one of my launchers with them stuck on | 15:35 |
| seb128 | oh, weird | 15:36 |
| apw | seb128, so is the hud bug to be filed against unity? | 15:36 |
| seb128 | apw, yes | 15:36 |
| seb128 | gord, should that down arrow bug assigned to you? | 15:36 |
| apw | how odd, when yo uhave the launchers on the screen a | 15:37 |
| apw | and hit alt, all your launchers go away even though only one needs to | 15:37 |
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| apw | is that intended | 15:37 |
| gord | seb128, i guess, I don't really know enough about it to say where the issue is really, i'll farm it off wherever once i know more so can't hurt | 15:38 |
| seb128 | gord, ok, thanks | 15:38 |
| seb128 | apw, not sure, doesn't hurt to open a bug and get design to look at it | 15:38 |
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| apw | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/937025 | 15:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 937025 in unity (Ubuntu) "HUD: cursor up/down keys are not working with hud searches" [Undecided,New] | 15:46 |
| apw | seb128, ^^ for the HUD cursor issue | 15:46 |
| seb128 | apw, thanks | 15:46 |
| apw | gord, ok i just logged out and back in to fix my launcher icons, and i seem to have hud up/down working now | 15:54 |
| apw | so it may be random whether they work or not | 15:54 |
| apw | seb128, ^^ | 15:56 |
| seb128 | seems so, gord said he got it once as well | 15:56 |
| m4n1sh | ev: ping | 16:10 |
| ev | m4n1sh: pong | 16:10 |
| m4n1sh | ev: do you have time to refactor the whoopsie code | 16:11 |
| ev | m4n1sh: yup, been working on it all day | 16:11 |
| m4n1sh | and split it out of ccpanel_foo_init method | 16:11 |
| m4n1sh | cool | 16:11 |
| m4n1sh | I cant seem to get my way around it | 16:11 |
| m4n1sh | i am bad at C | 16:11 |
| ev | no worries | 16:11 |
| ev | I'm on top of it | 16:11 |
| m4n1sh | yeah!! | 16:11 |
| m4n1sh | :) | 16:11 |
| ev | I'll propose a branch hopefully by the end of the day | 16:11 |
| m4n1sh | releasing on wed | 16:11 |
| m4n1sh | yes, All my worries gone | 16:11 |
| m4n1sh | thanks | 16:11 |
| lamont | slangasek: nm memory - I was waiting to reproduce it since I had upgraded a bunch of things | 16:13 |
| noodles775 | Hi. Are there known issues with precise upgrades at the moment (nvidia perhaps?). I've just updated an hour ago (hadn't done so for a while), and after reboot can only login to a recovery console. | 16:22 |
| * noodles775 takes a photo. | 16:23 | |
| noodles775 | http://people.canonical.com/~michaeln/tmp/IMAG1140.jpg | 16:26 |
| * noodles775 checks if nvidia issue from the other week was resolved. | 16:26 | |
| noodles775 | Hrm, checking dpkg.log seems to show that most of y system has been removed (I blindly did `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` and hit Y without checking the packages) :/ | 16:43 |
| damg | noodles775, I've installed today's daily today and had this issue after login for 30 seconds, then X logged me into unity | 16:44 |
| damg | after that I've installed proprietary though and didn't experience the problem anymore | 16:44 |
| noodles775 | damg: yeah, as above, I've just checked my dpkg.log and seen that it's unrelated to a driver issue, but rather that many packages were removed when I just updated (including essential stuff like software-center, gnome-panel, unity-2d etc.) | 16:47 |
| damg | hehe | 16:47 |
| noodles775 | `cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep 2012-02-20.*remove | wc -l` -> 52 | 16:48 |
| damg | how does unity decide whether an application window will be managed by it. it seems that it ignores blender in alt-tab or on its icon clicks. | 16:52 |
| damg | hm, it doesn't even get focus. pressing alt calls the menu of the next app below it. | 16:53 |
| bulldog98 | cjwatson: hello we the kubuntu team is working on an active image (aka mobile) could you please build following seed? lp:~kubuntu-active/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-active-seed/ | 17:06 |
| bulldog98 | thanks | 17:06 |
| slangasek | lamont: looks like the nm memory bug is well understood now | 17:16 |
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| Riddell | bulldog98: it's not quite as easy as just asking cjwatson to build a seed :) I'm looking at script to be fiddled now | 18:25 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: ok ping me if finished, I’ll test it then | 18:26 |
| slangasek | hallyn: the AT_EMPTY_PATH issue now also affects qemu-linaro, apparently | 18:27 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: it's probably not today, needs bits put on servers that I don't have access to | 18:27 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: ah ok | 18:28 |
| lamont | slangasek: cool | 18:40 |
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| int_ua | I want to report a bug against renice but I can't find it's upstream bug tracker. | 19:47 |
| int_ua | Can anyone help me? | 19:51 |
| int_ua | Since it's bsdutils I don't think that nor Ubuntu neither Debian bug trackers are the best choice | 19:53 |
| int_ua | but since it's fundamental part | 19:53 |
| int_ua | Anyone? | 19:53 |
| pitti | mdz: hey Matt, are you there for TB meeting? | 21:03 |
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| jodh | Hi - is there anyone about with build-rescore-superpowers that can bump | 21:44 |
| jodh | https://launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/+archive/bug-935585/+packages ? | 21:44 |
| * jodh double-checks to see if emacs has a build-rescore function... | 21:45 | |
| stgraber | jodh: done | 21:46 |
| jodh | stgraber: thanks very much! emacs drew a blank. Wonder if it's got | 21:47 |
| jodh | a make-me-a-build-rescore-function function?... | 21:47 |
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