[00:01] <ActionParsnip> playit: run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER     then set a password for your username and you can authorise with that.
[00:01] <danpsy> On the "Keyboard Layout" section for the 11.10 installer, it always displays "Dzongkha" on the right panel, regardless the keyboard layout that I select on the left panel.  What could the problem be?
[00:01] <Deihmos> isn't ubuntu support to be faster than windows 7
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: depends
[00:01] <danpsy> I'm also not able to click on "Continue" or "Back"
[00:01] <ikonia> Deihmos: not really, depends what you are doing and how well your hardware is supported
[00:02] <Deihmos> It is so slow
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: it uses a lot fewer resources by default, freeing more for your actual apps
[00:03] <Deihmos> I got 8Gb
[00:03] <Star_Light> Is there any greek channel?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> !greek
[00:03] <ikonia> Deihmos: it's most likley your video cards lack of support or configuration
[00:03] <Star_Light> ty
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: what video chip do you use/
[00:04] <Deihmos> laptop has ati 7650m desktop has 9800 GTX+
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: did you install the proprietary driver?
[00:04] <Deihmos> yep
[00:04] <Deihmos> it is no where as smooth as in win 7
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:05] <Deihmos> I am already back on windows
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: then why are you in a support channel for an OS you don't use?
[00:05] <playit> ikonia:no
[00:06] <Deihmos> i was testing it. Was curious why performance was bad.
[00:06] <playit> ikonia,  the username on the other ubuntu computer is different
[00:06] <Deihmos> it isn't bad but just not as smooth
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: this is support only, discussion and such is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: my systems run drastically faster under ubuntu and I have to install zero drivers (even for wifi and printers)
[00:08] <Deihmos> good for you.
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: so what you are saying doesn't affect all and could probably resolved
[00:09] <Urubu> does anyone know what error is code 141 in ubi-partman of ubuntu installation?
[00:09] <ikonia> jen_: ;
[00:09] <ikonia> oops
[00:09] <jen_> what?
[00:09] <ikonia> Urubu: partition error
[00:09] <jen_> T_T
[00:09] <ikonia> jen_: sorry, hand slipped
[00:10] <Urubu> ikonia: what kind
[00:11] <Urubu> what can I do
[00:11] <rootEth> is there a way to search from terminal to see what is available from apt-get?
[00:11] <SovereignPanda> aptitude search '...'
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> rootEth: use:  apt-cache search thing
[00:12] <rootEth> ah ty, was trying apt-get search, close but no cigar lol
[00:13] <Urubu> me runs gparted and checks reiserfs partition
[00:13]  * Urubu does that
[00:14] <god-zotac> how'd the new default player "parole" get its name?  weird name for a media player
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> !info parole
[00:15] <god-zotac> ActionParsnip:: hrm, does that tell how it got its name though?
[00:15] <rootEth> got technical interview for a uni placement year in a job likely to be using linux in just over a week,  thought I should install ubuntu again and get used to the basics, think it was a god plan as after 6 months not using it I can't remember anything :s
[00:16] <god-zotac> rootEth:: does the place you will be working at use ubuntu though? ubuntu may only confuse you if you are going to be dealing with something like redhat
[00:17] <rootEth> Probally be using blackbuntu or backtrack
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> god-zotac: I'd ask the devs tbh
[00:17] <god-zotac> ActionParsnip:: i tried #parole but there is nothing there.. its no big deal man. just curious about it lol
[00:18] <styles> Hey guys, I'm running the latest distro via Windows install atm. Obviously Windows was using NTFS so I'm using NTFS as my default. The issue is the mount.ntfs driver is hogging upwards to 90% of my i7 :p
[00:18] <Guest32891> hi i need help please
[00:18] <god-zotac> rootEth:: why would a company be using backtrack?
[00:18] <Guest32891> how to auto-mount a usb stick?
[00:18] <rootEth> pentesting
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> styles: any bugs reported?
[00:19] <god-zotac> rootEth:: i'd probably rather use sysresCD for that
[00:19] <styles> No, just extremely high load ActionParsnip
[00:19] <styles> I am compiling something, but it's not limited to while compiling.
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> styles: I suggest you report a bug then
[00:19] <styles> I'm just noticing the system lock up random for a few second ect.. (probably disc i/o)
[00:19] <styles> How do I go about doing that?
[00:19] <urfr332gO> Guest32891, have it plugged in when powering on or fstab
[00:20] <god-zotac> rootEth:: check this out:  http://www.sysresccd.org  its a great compilation for that, and much smaller than backtrack
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> !bug | styles
[00:20] <ubuntu> hey
[00:21] <RenatoSilva> help!
[00:21] <styles> Thank you ActionParsnip
[00:21] <styles> ubuntu-bug mount.ntfs extremely high load
[00:21] <BlouBlou> RenatoSilva: Asking your question would be a good start
[00:21] <elementz> i am going nuts over some strange problem when trying to launch winecfg; here's the output of winecfg http://pastebin.com/1fxC4Rtr , and this is the relevant part of the strace http://pastebin.com/x6qQMqDx
[00:21] <god-zotac> styles:: when you are compiling how many jobs / threads are you running make with ?
[00:21] <styles> !ubuntu-bug mount.ntfs extremely high load - Installed via Windows installer. The high load causes lock ups for a few seconds at a time.
[00:21] <styles> Just one
[00:21] <RenatoSilva> BlouBlou: #mimimi
[00:22] <BlouBlou> RenatoSilva: why?
[00:22] <styles> I'm compiling CppCMS (C++ Web Framework)
[00:22] <nobitanobi> This morning you guys suggested me a command to check the ammount of free space of "/" - I forgot the command, any suggestions?
[00:22] <rootEth> god-zotac, doesn't look like it's the kind of thing to use, I think it is going to be a ubuntu derivative they will be running based on my knowledge of the company but they don't want to give any details so as to keep the playing field level
[00:22] <nobitanobi> du -sh /*
[00:23] <urfr332gO> nobitanobi, type history in the terminal.
[00:23] <nobitanobi> done, thanks
[00:23] <elementz> doe anybody got an idea what could cause my problem? libgcrypt is installed on my system
[00:23] <god-zotac> rootEth:: if its an ubuntu derivative i wouldn't worry too much about it, it shouldn't be very hard to master it as the entire OS has several different options for management both cli/gui
[00:24] <god-zotac> rootEth:: i'd probably touch up on things like regex, sed, vi/vim, nano, emacs, etc.. basic things like that always come in most important when doing admin jobs.
[00:25] <rootEth> god-zotac, yeah, should be OK, just don't want to be googling basic commands during the interview lol
[00:25] <ubuntu> Art
[00:25] <RenatoSilva> trying to install oneiric form usb stick, wib-partman or something fails with error code 141. I`m trying to grub-install /dev/sda but I get this error: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?). HELP!
[00:25] <RenatoSilva> *from
[00:25] <god-zotac> rootEth:: the distro specific things are usually just package management and default paths being different, a few config files in different places or by diff names, nothing major that you will need to rack your brain learning
[00:25] <reacktor> join #soltexadmins
[00:25] <RenatoSilva> I need at least to install grub successfully so I get access back to windows
[00:26] <ndkelly> hi
[00:26] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: grub2 or grub legacy?
[00:27] <urfr332gO> RenatoSilva, if you have errors what makes you think you have a install?
[00:27] <styles> And I'm assuming guys the only way to go about converting my file system (to get away from the NTFS driver issue) is to gparted -> section off 30 more gigs. Then install Ubuntu on it.. but how would I transfer everything over?
[00:27] <urfr332gO> styles, everything meaning what?
[00:27] <tomvolek> I am trying to copy a file froma remote host ot my local direcotry using ssh as follows:  scp tomvolek@remote_host:foo /home/tom  I do see the file foo on the remote host, but the command sayd , No such file or directory
[00:28] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: the one which comes with oneiric
[00:28] <RenatoSilva> urfr332gO: wat
[00:29] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva::  does ls  /dev show anything?
[00:29] <WoC> tomvolek the remote file is in the home directory of the user tomvolek ? - Not in a sub dir, right ?
[00:29] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: trying to install again...didn`t get 141 error code this time... let`s see if it works
[00:29] <tomvolek> Woc, no the remote file is on a different users home directry, which I have ssh crudential to longinto using that user id ,
[00:29] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: /dev/sda exists
[00:30] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: you kinda confuse me, if you are installing ubuntu, why do you need to manually install grub via cli?
[00:30] <urfr332gO> RenatoSilva, you have errors or at least one on the install what makes you think it will  it will run even with grub, you would have to boot to ubuntu to get windows in grub.
[00:30] <WoC> tomvolek and the local dir /home/rom also exists ?
[00:30] <tomvolek> yes they do
[00:30] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: I could mount /dev/sda1 (win7) and sda2 (reiserfs, previous installation junk)
[00:30] <tomvolek> tomvolek exists on the remote host .. not on my local host
[00:30] <WoC> tomvolek check if the file foo has a trailing space
[00:30] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: I said the reason right below initial message
[00:31] <urfr332gO> RenatoSilva, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Upgrading
[00:31] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: [00:25] <RenatoSilva> I need at least to install grub successfully so I get access back to windows
[00:31] <Jordan_U> RenatoSilva: That's not how you install grub from a LiveCD, and there are easier ways of just restoring Windows' abibility to boot. What happens when you try to boot the machine now?
[00:31] <tomvolek> its a test file, and i created it with touch foo
[00:31] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: you don't have to reinstall grub to get access back to windows, just pop the windows install disc in and repair your install and then it will boot
[00:31] <WoC> try using scp with the -v option
[00:31] <tomvolek> ok, I be right back
[00:32] <WoC> gives more details
[00:32] <RenatoSilva> Jordan_U: did you read all my messages on the isse
[00:32] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: and then after you get to your windows to do your work, just recreate the usb thumb drive correctly, and do a typical ubuntu install
[00:32] <mjbermea> Guys I need help. Whenever I try to mount my iPhone 3GS on Ubuntu 10.10 it gives me this:Unhandled Lockdown error (-4). What does that mean?
[00:32] <Jordan_U> RenatoSilva: All of your messages since you most recently joined the channel, yes.
[00:33] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: my cd drive is not working properly, sudo grub-install would be much easier regardless
[00:33] <WoC> mjbermea u have a pin set and security options on; on your iphone ?
[00:33] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: the usb stick is ok
[00:33] <mjbermea> WoC: I have no PIN set.
[00:34] <urfr332gO> RenatoSilva, yeah if that was the command it would be, try relaxing and actually getting help, and not questioning the ones helping you. :)
[00:34] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: now I filled user settings, waiting to see what will happen
[00:34] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: why not just reinstall ubuntu, and let it keep your windows partition, and install the boot loader from the installer. i don't understand why you are going about it the dirty way
[00:34] <Jordan_U> RenatoSilva: You can also install an MS-Syle mbr from the Ubuntu LiveCD, but I'd like to know more information about why Windows can't boot now so that I'm more confident that will solve the problem.
[00:35] <WoC> mjbermea check your dmesg after you hook up the iphone
[00:35] <shyam> helo
[00:35] <shyam> helo
[00:35] <god-zotac> Jordan_U:: because he overwrote the MS bootloader with a failed grub install it seems
[00:35] <mjbermea> dmesg in Terminal?
[00:35] <RenatoSilva> Jordan_U: I'm not sure how mbr got overwritten but surely was in one of the times I tried to install it
[00:35] <WoC> Yes, mjbermea
[00:35] <Jordan_U> RenatoSilva: What happens currently when you try to boot?
[00:36] <RenatoSilva> Jordan_U: oh sorry I'm ignoring you, really sorry you and urfr332gO
[00:36] <god-zotac> "NTLDR.DLL missing" ?
[00:36] <RenatoSilva> Jordan_U: oh sorry doesn't work in webchat anyway
[00:36] <mjbermea> WoC: I'm new to using the Terminal. So I don't know what the output says.
[00:36] <tomvolek> WoC  I tried it with -x option, and i see i am being connected to remote host,autheticated, and then it says cant find file, eventhough the file is in the remote home directory
[00:36] <WoC> mjbermea should be in the end, anything related to usb or iphone
[00:36] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: this problem started when I realized I wanted custom install not 'overwrite existing 11.10'
[00:37] <tomvolek> WoC  my bad :(  sorry
[00:37] <Jordan_U> RenatoSilva: If you don't want my help I will stop offering it. Good luck.
[00:37] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: what part did you want custom?
[00:37] <RenatoSilva> how to ignore people in webchat.freenode.net? I need to do it due to strong traffic here
[00:37] <tomvolek> I found the problme was loged in on a different windwo and put the file on a similar direcityr name
[00:37] <RenatoSilva> Jordan_U: thanks
[00:37] <WoC> tomvolek try it with the full path
[00:38] <tomvolek> ok, will do , much appreciated
[00:38] <mjbermea> WoC: Can I PM you? This is 4 lines of output.
[00:38] <WoC> mjbermea sure, go ahead
[00:38] <aguitel> i have ubuntu in 3 partition swap / and /home i cannot see /home mounted with gparted ,why?
[00:38] <urfr332gO> Jordan_U, lol hour the best help on here in this area oh well. :)
[00:38] <Nadd> hi guys
[00:38] <urfr332gO> your*
[00:38] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: not having swap and reiserfs not ext4, then I tried a new install and set up that in custom option, then it froze in some point
[00:38] <mjbermea> WoC: Sent
[00:38] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: then I tried again and it froze in some other point
[00:38] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: for future reference, you might want to consider creating a /home partition seperate from /  so you can store your personalized settings and not format /home each time.. then doing a fresh install is much easier and more convenient
[00:39] <WoC> mjbermea try a different usb port
[00:39] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: I've backed up all I wanted to the ntfs partition (sda3)
[00:40] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: let me check if it froze again
[00:40] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: what im saying will prevent you from needing to backup/restore your files by hand each time.. just create /home on a seperate partition and it makes life much easier in the event you want to zap the entire OS and install fresh
[00:40] <_cb> how do I select a folder as a playlist in banshee?
[00:40] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: getting file 57 of 61, I think it's downloading packages...
[00:40] <mjbermea> WoC: When I plug it in to a different USB port, it doesn't even detect it this time.
[00:41] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: what I've backed up is pretty much those settings I told you earlier
[00:41] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: i understand that, but having /home as a subdirectory on the same partition as /  isn't handy when you want to do a fresh install/reinstall   and for the most part it is a good practice to have /home on its own partition
[00:41] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: just a gnome2 theme, an emerald theme, settings for terminal and gedit
[00:42] <WoC> mjbermea there may be some issue with your iphone then, like the usb connector may be dirty/corroded
[00:42] <god-zotac> see, all that is stored in your /home/username
[00:42] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: handy?
[00:42] <kpas_> How would one get rid of the lower gnome menu in gnome classic
[00:42] <mjbermea> WoC: It works fine on Windows and other Linux distros.
[00:42] <god-zotac> you could have kept all that and just put that /home partition in your new installs fstab, without formating it during install
[00:42] <RenatoSilva> this webchat is very confusing!
[00:43] <WoC> mjbermea then i would think you may be lacking a kernel module
[00:43] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: I don't keep data neither in /home nor in / at all
[00:43] <WoC> mjbermea i dont use a iphone myself
[00:43] <mjbermea> libimobiledevice
[00:43] <mjbermea> ?
[00:43] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: my data is stored in sda3
[00:43] <mjbermea> WoC: ^
[00:44] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: "downloading language pack (607:00 remaining)"
[00:44] <WoC> mjbermea i think im out of ideas, as i said, never used a iphone myself
[00:44] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: 607 minutes? ã.ã
[00:45] <aguitel> how to know my partitions mounted in terminal?
[00:45] <WoC> aguitel; mount
[00:45] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: you don't keep data in neither /home nor in /? where do you keep it then?  and if you don't have it in home then how do you have your $HOME themes/terminal settings configured to load from somewhere other than the default /home/username/.config
[00:45] <mjbermea> WoC: Alright. :) Let me try downloading the libimobiledevice module because it's reported in a bug.
[00:46] <WoC> mjbermea best of luck, it sounds like a good plan
[00:46] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: my data is stored in sda3
[00:46] <aguitel> WoC, /home partition appears unmounted in gparted ,is this correct?
[00:46] <mjbermea> WoC: Thanks for your help.
[00:47] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: and where is sda3 mounted?
[00:47] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: it doesn't matter
[00:47] <WoC> aguitel check with 'mount' in a terminal window
[00:47] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: for the most part, if you use your /home  you can mount it on a fresh install keeping your old settings, and when you login you wont have to do anything, all your settings will be just like they was in your previous install
[00:47] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: I don't really have settings/data to save from old installation, just those few I told you, and they're now in sda3 which is my ntfs data partition
[00:48] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: ok, do it however you wish.. but for future reference you may want to consider a /home partition apart from the /  (root) partition
[00:48] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: 204:36 remaining, crazy...
[00:48] <aguitel> WoC, see that,http://paste.pocoo.org/show/553727/
[00:49] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: why exactly except for looking cool?
[00:49] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: is your internet connection slow?
[00:49] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: looking cool?   its nothing about looking cool,  its handy to not have to reconfigure every single thing you have, and to keep your personal files, web browser settings, terminal settings, themes, downloaded files, etc
[00:49] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: connection seems ok
[00:50] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: what i am saying is the things in /home  are usually not distro / release dependent.. they are the settings that are applied to every application upon launch / login to y our desktop environment, login shell, etc
[00:50] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: if I was about to do something that could erase that data, I'd back it up, which I already did... I don't really see your point. You may like a partition for /home but I don't need it
[00:51] <god-zotac> my point is to carry over your settings and not need to worry about losing them when doing a new install
[00:51] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: ok it would not be distro/release dependant except it becomes junk over the time
[00:51] <god-zotac> another good point is you can mount the /home partition over a network and keep your same setup across different machines on your network, even ones using different distributions
[00:52] <god-zotac> what becomes junk about it?
[00:52] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: this is why I'm starting from scratch after years, I have my home pretty clean but can't speak of everything else, so to be sure I'll overwrite everything from scratch
[00:52] <Legoleader> hi there
[00:52] <god-zotac> im done with this conversation, anyone who has any linux experience at all will tell you that having /home on its own partition is a good idea, i see no reason that it is not a good idea
[00:52] <haux> If I am partitioning a hard drive that will not be used to run any OS, should I still format it at MBR, or should I do GUID?
[00:52] <god-zotac> you can control your HD usage better also
[00:52] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: unfortunately this is something you need to do to be reasonably sure of having a clean system, yet in 2012
[00:53] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: i think you don't understand the concept of partiions and the filesystem hierarchy
[00:53] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: think verything you wish
[00:53] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: I'm used to this kind of irc user
[00:54] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: 2012 or 1912, a /home partition is not going to be outdated or obsoleted
[00:54] <Redbluegreen> Hello
[00:54] <Redbluegreen> Hello!!
[00:54] <Legoleader> is it possible to change the system fonts
[00:54] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: please apologize for your last statement
[00:54] <god-zotac> no thank you
[00:54] <Redbluegreen> Hi!!
[00:54] <RenatoSilva> hmm 15min, better now
[00:55] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: ok I don't care
[00:55]  * RenatoSilva waits for language pack download finishing
[00:55] <god-zotac> RenatoSilva:: next time when you decide you want to change distros, or do a clean install, have fun backing up all your themes, and customizations that you use in your apps.. could have all been prevented by the method i mentioned..
[00:55] <RenatoSilva> god-zotac: please stop it
[00:56] <haux> If I am partitioning a hard drive that will not be used to run any OS, should I still format it as MBR, or should I do GUID?
[00:56] <Legoleader> Is it possible to change the font formatting in ubuntu
[00:58] <RenatoSilva> haux: format it as MBR? what do you really mean?
[00:58] <WoC> haux i would still use MBR for the aprtition table, for compabilty assurance
[00:59] <WoC> s/aprtition/partition/
[00:59] <RenatoSilva> haux: you don't need to put a bootloader on it if it's a data-only hard drive
[00:59] <haux> RenatoSilva,  When you format a drive in Dist Utility, it has a few options to select from. MBR, GUID, None, or Apple.
[00:59] <haux> *Disk
[00:59] <Legoleader> is it possible to add more fonts to the system like windows?
[00:59] <haux> Thanks WoC
[00:59] <RenatoSilva> MBR
[00:59] <WoC> np haux
[00:59] <RenatoSilva> Legoleader: yes
[01:00] <WoC> haux maybe one day you need to mount that disk in some older machine, using MBR will ensure you can
[01:00] <Legoleader> Where can I find fonts and how to add them?
[01:00] <haux> Another question I have but it's unrelated to Ubuntu, the people in ##hardware aren't being particularly responsive at the moment. I was wondering if a lot of cracking noises coming from a hard drive during read/write is considered normal noise?
[01:00] <RenatoSilva> Legoleader: www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+how+to+add+fonts
[01:01] <haux> New 1TB seagate, to be specific.
[01:01] <EuroNerd> Why isn't the new VLC 2.0 available in the Update Manager yet?
[01:01] <haux> This is a familiar noise to me, but this one seems particularly louder than I'm used to.
[01:01] <WoC> haux is that a scsi drive ?
[01:01] <haux> SATA
[01:01] <haux> Internal
[01:01] <WoC> Quantum ?
[01:01] <maniX> hello friends, i am using ubuntu 0n hp-g6-1219tu laptop. It has a broadcom 4313 wireless card installed on it. I have installed broadcom STA drivers  to it. I have made the wifi to work my blacklisting bcma and brcmsmac modules. But the bluetooth is not working. Please help me someone
[01:01] <RenatoSilva> haux: well I'd ask to listen to it but I'd bet it's damaged
[01:02] <haux> um
[01:02] <haux> Barracuda
[01:02] <WoC> some brands are making more sounds than others...
[01:02] <RenatoSilva> haux: not sure though
[01:02] <RenatoSilva> haux: barracuda?
[01:02] <haux> Got it a month ago
[01:02] <celltech> Told 11.10 to stop with the updates and stop telling me. What happens when I restart? Update screen always shows up... Why won't it stop
[01:02] <RenatoSilva> haux: do you speak portuguese?
[01:02] <WoC> heh, ok :) as long as the sounds are kind of snappy it should be ok
[01:03] <haux> It's like a staticy noise, *shrug*
[01:03] <haux> Anyway, thanks for the help!
[01:03] <WoC> np haux
[01:03] <gr33n7007h> maniX, what does "hciconfig -a hci0" show ??
[01:04] <EuroNerd> Why isn't VLC 2.0 available in the Update Manager yet?
[01:04] <maniX> gr33n7007h: Can't get device info: No such device
[01:04] <gr33n7007h> maniX, try "bluetoothd -u"
[01:05] <urfr332gO> EuroNerd, not sure but it is in a ppa, probably be soon.
[01:05] <maniX> gr33n7007h: It gave me nothing. No output
[01:05] <GummyBear> RenatoSilva: eu falo españoliño, voce fala espanhol?
[01:06] <gr33n7007h> maniX, hciconfig hci0 up
[01:06] <maniX> gr33n7007h: Can't get device info: No such device
[01:06] <maniX> gr33n7007h: rfkill list do not list any bluetooth too
[01:07] <gr33n7007h> umm??
[01:07] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[01:07] <RenatoSilva> GummyBear: no
[01:08] <ThePendulum> Is there a way to display a live log on the screen of my server?
[01:08] <maniX> gr33n7007h:  in the output of rfkill list i have nothing ok hci0
[01:08] <maniX> of*
[01:09] <gr33n7007h> maniX, which ubuntu you using ?
[01:09] <RenatoSilva> very nice idea this kind of message: 'downloading stuff (x min remaining)'
[01:09] <maniX> 11.10 gr33n7007h
[01:10] <DrDank> How is everyone doing?
[01:10] <maniX> gr33n7007h: i have tried ubuntu 11.10, kubuntu 11.10, open suse, and a lot of other distros. Same problem
[01:10] <urfr332gO> DrDank, you don't wanna know. :)
[01:10] <gr33n7007h> do you know manafacturer of bluetooth device
[01:11] <SuperSniper> depends
[01:11] <SuperSniper> but you have to have bluetooth certification
[01:11] <maniX> its broadcom 4313
[01:11] <DrDank> urfr332gO: It cant be that bad.. lol
[01:11] <SuperSniper> logs?
[01:12] <urfr332gO> DrDank, its not just joking.
[01:12] <maniX> gr33n7007h: i had windows installed earlier. Broadcoms driver was easy on windows. i dont know why broadcom hates linux.
[01:12] <DrDank> urfr332gO: doing better than me.. lol Ive got this Ubuntu installed on a dual boot.. and I end up using Windows more than Linux because I just cant figure it out.
[01:13] <urfr332gO> DrDank, takes awhile and I started on ubuntu, lol
[01:13] <shadowh511> DrDank: you just gotta take a few hours to brute-force it
[01:13] <gr33n7007h> broadcom sucks
[01:13] <DrDank> urfr332gO: I "brute-force" ?? lol
[01:13] <maniX> gr33n7007h: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php this is the link that might help u
[01:13] <maniX> gr33n7007h:  agreed
[01:14] <kokozaurz> anyone know
[01:14] <shadowh511> DrDank: you just gotta learn how it works and how you can use how it works to make your job as a user easier
[01:14] <maniX> mine is BCM-4313, it has no support even from b43.
[01:14] <kokozaurz> Any suggestions for streaming video
[01:14] <kokozaurz> easiest way
[01:14] <kokozaurz> on gnome
[01:14] <kokozaurz> ?
[01:14] <SuperSniper> like what
[01:14] <SuperSniper> "streaming video"?
[01:14] <SuperSniper> from what source
[01:15] <kokozaurz> like streaming internal video
[01:15] <urfr332gO> kokozaurz, details?
[01:15] <SuperSniper> what
[01:15] <SuperSniper> internet?
[01:15] <SuperSniper> like youtube?
[01:15] <kokozaurz> no no, streaming everything thats happening
[01:15] <SuperSniper> wat
[01:15] <kokozaurz> :D
[01:15] <gr33n7007h> maniX, you on about wireless card or ubuntu??
[01:15] <SuperSniper> that would take up SO much soace
[01:16] <kokozaurz> well you can obviously stream your webcam
[01:16] <gr33n7007h> maniX, you on about wireless card or bluetooth??
[01:16] <kokozaurz> from skype
[01:16] <SuperSniper> *space
[01:16] <kokozaurz> i mean thru skype
[01:16] <SuperSniper> ohh
[01:16] <SuperSniper> ok
[01:16] <kokozaurz> but not to stream webcam
[01:16] <kokozaurz> bet everything thats happening on desktop
[01:16] <InTrouble> anyone know how to get more details on this? it's hanging on there and mins vary too much http://i.imgur.com/hgAo4.png
[01:16] <kokozaurz> could be thru skype
[01:16] <maniX> gr33n7007h: bluetooth
[01:16] <liberal> DrDank: go cold turkey. no dual boot. linux and that's it. if you're having a problem doing something, force yourself to find the way to do it on linux. that's how i learned linux, and that's what the others meant by "brute force"
[01:17] <maniX> gr33n7007h: but it says that this STA driver is for both bluetooth and wifi
[01:17] <DrDank> liberal: Thanks, I understand now.
[01:17] <maniX> gr33n7007h: sadly it make wifi to work but not bluetooth
[01:18] <gr33n7007h> modprobe the original module
[01:19] <maniX> gr33n7007h: how?
[01:19] <csiek> hello world !
[01:19] <ThePendulum> world's not here atm :(
[01:20] <urfr332gO> InTrouble, stop changing your nic renato
[01:20] <h0udini> Hi
[01:20] <InTrouble> urfr332gO: I'm not obligated to not do
[01:20] <csiek> hi !
[01:20] <gr33n7007h> lsmod  | grep "b43\|ssb\|bcma\|wl"
[01:21] <ThePendulum> Does anyone knows if it's possible to boot a computer via network?
[01:21] <gmachine_24> Hi. I am about to upgrade my Ubuntu on a dual-boot (win7) machine. I am NOT going to do an upgrade - going to do a fresh install. Should I boot from a live CD and wipe out the Ubuntu partitions ... and then install into the open/unused space? Or will there be a choice when installing to use the area where Ubuntu is currently installed. Thx.
[01:21] <urfr332gO> InTrouble, if you do it enough they will ban you and it actually will stop some from helping you
[01:21] <csiek> yes thanks to PXE
[01:21] <InTrouble> urfr332gO: I don't care your bans for personal reasons either if that's the reason I can't use my original nick
[01:21] <h0udini> im using 11.10
[01:21] <h0udini> can i update to 12.04 ?
[01:22] <aeon-ltd> no
[01:22] <ThePendulum> gmachine_24: When you're installing Ubuntu (11.10?), you'll get the option to replace your old Ubuntun installation with the new one, so that's the option you need :)
[01:22] <csiek> ThePendulum see the LTSP project
[01:22] <urfr332gO> InTrouble, I can't ban you lol. and have no personal vendetta either.
[01:22] <aeon-ltd> h0udini: not unless you like betas
[01:22] <maniX> gr33n7007h: its wl only, cause i already tried doing as the readme.txt instructed.
[01:22] <InTrouble> urfr332gO: why can't you just ignore me then? well, I know why
[01:22] <gmachine_24> ThePendulum, thanks. So that will be a complete new install, right? Because, as I said, I do not want to do an upgrade. That has failed me.
[01:23] <WebDawg> What is the difference between 10.04.1 and 10.04.4?
[01:23] <h0udini> ok Thanx
[01:23] <gmachine_24> about .3
[01:23] <InTrouble> aeon-ltd: people may say non-LTSes are kind of betas
[01:23] <WebDawg> gmachine_24, would an aptitude update turn .1 into .4?
[01:23] <ThePendulum> gmachine_24: Yep, it should wipe out your old install completely
[01:23] <InTrouble> WebDawg: the latter is more up-to-date
[01:23] <funnyfingers> I have setup Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and Debian 6 as a domU of CentOS with no problems.  Ubuntu 11.04's netinstall does not detect the network card.  Any ideas?
[01:24] <ThePendulum> Brb
[01:24] <gmachine_24> ThePendulum, ok, great. Thanks. And it's 11.10 that I'm installing.
[01:24] <ThePendulum> gmachine_24: I guess you feel attracted to the all new look then :)
[01:24] <ThePendulum> Switched to Xubuntu myself, for I don't really like Unity or Gnome 3.2
[01:25] <urfr332gO> InTrouble, well I'm glad you do. :)
[01:25] <ThePendulum> brb
[01:25] <gmachine_24> ThePendulum, well, I am willing to give it a try, certainly. I read that the KDE guy is no longer going to be doing KDE for Canonical - as a paid position.
[01:25] <WebDawg> gmachine_24, would an aptitude update turn .1 into .4?
[01:25] <InTrouble> urfr332gO: please stop talking to me and mentioning my nick, thanks
[01:25] <gmachine_24> WebDawg - I do not know. There are others here far wiser than I.
[01:25] <WebDawg> InTrouble,, would an aptitude update turn .1 into .4?
[01:26] <InTrouble> WebDawg: try it and see, it must not hurt
[01:26] <BrandonBolton> Hello, is there an easy way to share the Internet connection from my laptop to something else with Ubuntu?
[01:26] <ThePendulum> gmachine_24: Correct, Canonical is so sure about themselves that they are going to quit financial support for Kubuntu as of 12.04
[01:26] <ThePendulum> brb!
[01:26] <gmachine_24> ThePendulum: I thought they said they were doing it because they're not making any money at it.
[01:27] <gmachine_24> BrandonBolton: what exactly are you trying to do?
[01:28] <BrandonBolton> gmachine_24, I am trying to share the internet connection from my netbook running 10.04 to a XP desktop so I can do updates. I don't want to have an internet cord going across my living room (kinda a safety hazard).
[01:29] <gmachine_24> BrandonBolton: I'm assuming you don't have a router.
[01:29] <ThePendulum> gmachine_24: That's correct, so basically you could conclude that they consider KDE doomed and are deadset on Unity on Gnome 3+
[01:29] <gmachine_24> ThePendulum: That's unfortunate. Usually more is better.
[01:30] <gmachine_24> Ok it's time to wipe out the old............ c u all later
[01:30] <BrandonBolton> gmachine_24, I have a wireless router. I was going to try and share my netbook's wireless card's internet through the Ethernet jack.
[01:31] <urfr332gO> ThePendulum, the support is there just the money is gone.
[01:32] <maniX> hello friends, i am using ubuntu 0n hp-g6-1219tu laptop. It has a broadcom 4313 wireless card installed on it. I have installed broadcom STA drivers  to it. I have made the wifi to work my blacklisting bcma and brcmsmac modules. But the bluetooth is not working. Please help me someone
[01:32] <lnxslck> maniX, good luk with that
[01:33] <Pikkachu> test, sorry
[01:33] <maniX> lnxslck: ?
[01:34] <maniX> lnxslck: is there anything wrong with my querry?
[01:35] <y0om4> do any of you watch netflix stream from ubuntu?
[01:35] <y0om4> you just need a web browser, right
[01:36] <urfr332gO> y0om4, netflix wont run in linux
[01:36] <y0om4> i thought you could stream from a browser like firefox
[01:37] <urfr332gO> y0om4, nope
[01:37] <BrandonBolton> y0om4, You could do a virtual machine of Windows. You could also try and install Wine and then Install Silverlight through that.
[01:37] <y0om4> what about hulu
[01:37] <urfr332gO> y0om4, hulu runs
[01:37] <BrandonBolton> y0om4, Netflix requires Mircrosoft's Silverlight to run. Hulu will run just fine.
[01:39] <DaZ> i take it moonlight doesn't handle necessary drm thingies? :x
[01:40] <maniX> hello friends, i am using ubuntu 0n hp-g6-1219tu laptop. It has a broadcom 4313 wireless card installed on it. I have installed broadcom STA drivers  to it. I have made the wifi to work my blacklisting bcma and brcmsmac modules. But the bluetooth is not working. Please help me someone
[01:40] <urfr332gO> maniX, you might try ##linux if your registered
[01:41] <BrandonBolton> DaZ, sadly no. It doesn't have the DRM in it. I have to have Windows installed on a second partition so I can watch Netflix. Sometimes kids in Third World Countries have it better than me. :(
[01:42] <baggy> Hey everyone. I typically try to resolve problems on my own so but I can't figure out what is going wrong here. Whenever I try to use the Software Center to install something I want it will give the usual install dialogue, prompt me for my authentication and such, displaying the "Installing..." message for roughly half a second and then totally stop and just sit there. After which, if I try again, it does the same thing. Any ideas on
[01:42] <baggy> how I can fix this?
[01:42] <BrandonBolton> baggy, have you tried to install anything through command line to see if that works?
[01:42] <baggy> Yes, dpkg seems to work just find with .deb files.
[01:43] <baggy> Unless you're asking about another means.
[01:43] <baggy> Like apt-get?
[01:43] <BrandonBolton> baggy, yeah, I was wondering about apt-get.
[01:43] <baggy> One moment, let me find a program to try it with and report back to you.
[01:44] <Brian__> I have been playing with CUPS for a bit, but I can't figure out what I need to do.  I have a ubuntu server install with cups installed.  I need to make this server act as a printer that listens on port 9100.  Once a job comes in, I need it to send the print to file.  I created my cups printer with the backend script to print to file, but that doesnt help me respond to print jobs on port 9100.
[01:45] <baggy> BrandonBolton; apt-get seems to be working just fine.
[01:45] <baggy> I tested it on OpenJDK 7
[01:46] <Justice> Need help with wireless disconnecting when running on battery its a Ralink 5390 wireless with rt2800pci drivers.
[01:47] <urfr332gO> baggy, you sure you have the repo open for packages crashing, and have you run a updat & upgrade from the terminal?
[01:47] <baggy> I have run an update/upgrade.
[01:47] <Justice> Logs show, ieee80211 phy0: wlan0: No probe response from AP & wlan0: deauthenticated from (Reason: 6)
[01:48] <Justice> however could not find anything on how to fix this issue -_-'
[01:48] <razor85> How can I make a VNC session for user "joe" instead of the root user?
[01:48] <pumpkins> moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
[01:49] <pumpkins> pumpkins
[01:49] <Justice> hm quiet here..
[01:49] <pumpkins> Tree house tv . com
[01:51] <pumpkins> PBS kids go . org
[01:52] <kawarshy> Hi, anyone knows, how to change ubuntu 11.10 to arabic interface instead of english interface?
[01:52] <xangua> kawarshy: install arabic language and select it on the login screen
[01:55] <kawarshy> xangua, thanks a lot :-)
[01:58] <ryeth> !help
[01:59] <ramsrambo> need help with home folder utility -- when pointed to /usr/bin it closes automatically
[02:00] <razor85> how do i login to vnc with another user than root?
[02:01] <c_smith_> ryeth: what was that about? nobody asked a question.......
[02:02] <BrandonBolton> Does anyone know how to bridge a connection with Ubuntu 10.04 to lets stay a desktop?
[02:04] <OvermindDL1> So, my video card has two outputs with two monitors, I also have two keyboards and two mice, how can I get two people logged on with their own users on their own monitor with their own mouse/keyboard in ubuntu?
[02:04] <rattatoue> I am running on a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10. Idk what happen all I did was install all the updates and now my system is like trying to freeze or like glitching. Like opening things will stall for a sec its weird and never did this before. I checked the system monitor and alot of things are saying poll_schedule_timeout. Theres only like 4 things that arent saying that. Any ideas?
[02:04] <SillyTalker> i'm trying to setup my wifi card through SLI, but iwconfig is not able to set ym key
[02:04] <SillyTalker> (and its not in hex)
[02:06] <rain_> hello
[02:06] <BrandonBolton> rain_, Hello, do you need help?
[02:06] <rain_> Not really, thanks though
[02:06] <Adrian> Hello
[02:07] <Guest94596> Hello
[02:09] <crst144> hola
[02:12] <carp1> Hello.
[02:12] <goodtime> hello carp1
[02:13] <carp1> Can I get Ubuntu help on this channel?
[02:13] <pappagrizly> hey im having some problems getting my ethernet to work on recently installed ubuntu   anybody want to help me out?
[02:13] <goodtime> ofcorse
[02:13] <goodtime> hmm
[02:14] <carp1> My computer freezes every couple hours.  Most of the time it goes to a console and says it panic'd and it will be froze.
[02:14] <goodtime> carp1: yes people ask good questions here and get help
[02:14] <LukeNukem> http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/2792790_460s.jpg
[02:15] <Kokkopokko> Is it possible to have "dock gnome extension" on bottom?
[02:15] <goodtime> how much ram do you have carp1
[02:15] <carp1> 2GB I believe.
[02:15] <goodtime> hmm me too
[02:15] <carp1> 4GB*
[02:15] <SillyTalker> i cannot seem to find docs that explain how i can connect to my wpa2 network from CLI
[02:15] <SillyTalker> any directions?
[02:16] <SillyTalker> its kindof... essential.........
[02:16] <blud> i am trying to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 but it says "Could not calculate the upgrade"  "E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."  what do I do?
[02:16] <SillyTalker> i hate getting stuck on something THIS SIMPLE
[02:16] <goodtime> im sure it is SillyTalker
[02:16] <LL2|Android> Hi
[02:16] <goodtime> google what your problem is like in wikipedia
[02:17] <SillyTalker> thats not even correct english..
[02:17] <SillyTalker> actually i dont care about correct, but its not understandable
[02:17] <goodtime> if that doesnt work maybe ill figure it out for you
[02:17] <goodtime> hmmm
[02:17] <goodtime> hang on
[02:17] <Lesterwood> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvUm2uMMm-U&feature=related opinions
[02:17] <viktor> ohai
[02:18] <SillyTalker> ah you're asking if i already googled
[02:18] <SillyTalker> yes
[02:18] <SillyTalker> im still googling as we speak
[02:18] <HFSPLUS> Is 256mb ram good for sbuntu?
[02:18] <goodtime> i get ya
[02:18] <HFSPLUS> is 512mb good for ubuntu?
[02:18] <xangua> HFSPLUS: it might be for Lubuntu or Xubuntu
[02:18] <goodtime> no HFSPLUS but if it works it will run real slow
[02:19] <HFSPLUS> ok i can throw in 768MB that good?
[02:19] <pappagrizly> should i have to install a driver for my ethernet card when i install ubuntu?
[02:19] <SillyTalker> 512 shouldnt be a problem at all
[02:19] <HFSPLUS> Max my mobo can handal
[02:19] <xangua> 512 with unity 2D¿ yes HFSPLUS
[02:19] <goodtime> right
[02:19] <HFSPLUS> on top of Dual CPU intel pentium 3 1000Mhz
[02:19] <SillyTalker> or get a distro without the crappy unity garbage
[02:19] <HFSPLUS> troll?
[02:19] <SillyTalker> oops sorry lol
[02:20] <SillyTalker> confused channels :p
[02:20] <HFSPLUS> Peace, im going to throw in 3x 256MB sticks in my rig
[02:20] <HFSPLUS> cya
[02:20] <goodtime> i just install with apt-get install gnomedesktop
[02:20] <goodtime> or apt-get install kde-full
[02:20] <Lesterwood> opinions?
[02:20] <SillyTalker> when i tried that last time i got a really crappy gnome version
[02:20] <goodtime> for the plasma gui
[02:20] <SillyTalker> whatever i tried, i couldnt get the regular old gnome i'm used to
[02:20] <pappagrizly> i dont have access to intnernet at all on linux so i cant download any thing on it
[02:21] <goodtime> the gnome is lacking
[02:21] <SillyTalker> i installed xubuntu-desktop and used that in the end
[02:21] <goodtime> how did it run
[02:21] <w0uld> Is there a way to add a ssh key to my login keychain so that it unlocks automatically during login?  I seem to remember this being prompted to do this in versions around the time of the last LTS release but that doesn't seem to be true in 11.10.  Google has been no help.
[02:21] <SillyTalker> xubuntu-desktop? fine of course
[02:21] <goodtime> cool
[02:21] <SillyTalker> not what i want but i can live with it
[02:22] <goodtime> right right
[02:22] <Flip_> can anyone shed light on RAID1 Ubuntu Server LTS with gnome desktop update
[02:22] <razor85> How do I use VNC with another user other than root? I need to connect to VNC with normal user privelegies and not root.
[02:22] <SillyTalker> ok i think its time to give up
[02:22] <LL2|Android> It doesn't suprise me that this channel has many, many more users than ##windows
[02:22] <SillyTalker> appernatly its no longer possible to connect to my wifi network from CLI
[02:22] <goodtime> hahaha windows
[02:23] <SillyTalker> and theres not documentation to be found
[02:23] <Flip_> windows - who said that
[02:23] <Flip_> lol
[02:23] <carp1> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/photojan0635019pm.jpg/
[02:23] <SillyTalker> except outdated garbage from 2006
[02:23] <goodtime> lol
[02:23] <goodtime> thats windows for ya
[02:24] <goodtime> hahaha i formated my hdd to linux and now i cant install win7 pro
[02:24] <Flip_> i got the raid to sync but it won't mount in my gui
[02:24] <Kokkopokko> hahahah
[02:25] <Flip_> do i need to the hdd's are formated GUID indiv and the RAID has no partition
[02:25] <goodtime> i could use gparted i guess but i dont care for the distro
[02:25] <Flip_> can't put GUID backon the sunc drives
[02:25] <Flip_> sync
[02:25] <Flip_> I tried free space
[02:25] <Flip_> Any ideas on RAID 1
[02:26] <goodtime> idk Flip_
[02:26] <Flip_> i suck at CLI - still learning
[02:26] <Flip_> yeah
[02:26] <goodtime> me too
[02:26] <goodtime> i do ok sometimes
[02:26] <Flip_> I'm getting better - I started out with DOS back in the 90's never got a linux machine until about 3 years ago
[02:27] <goodtime> dos is cool
[02:27] <RenatoSilva> hi all, how to add a ntfs partition to be mounted automatically without editing fstab directly in oneiric?
[02:27] <Flip_> Finding out how much DOS blows with Terminal LOL
[02:27] <goodtime> hahaha
[02:28] <goodtime> i might install a dos emulator
[02:28] <Flip_> oh well, I got time to learn. Guess learn by error.
[02:28] <goodtime> just to put a feather in my cap
[02:29] <Flip_> The only thing I like about DOS is a few of the networking commands like ARP and netsh
[02:29] <LL2|Android> When I see someone ask "how do I uninstall *insert linux distro or linux based os here*?" here
[02:29] <LL2|Android> I should just say "open bash, and type in 'sudo rm -rf /'"
[02:30] <LL2|Android> "and when it asks for your password, enter it"
[02:30] <LL2|Android> :P
[02:30] <SillyTalker> so does anyone know how to connect to my wifinetwork from CLI?
[02:30] <SillyTalker> iwconfig says invalid argument when i try to set my key
[02:30] <SillyTalker> my network uses wpa2
[02:30] <rattatoue> SillyTalker pvt
[02:30] <SillyTalker> pvt rattatoue ?
[02:30] <somsip> !danger
[02:31] <carp1> Any idea's why my laptop goes into console and it says a panic occured and the computer freezes?
[02:31] <goodtime> ty ubottu
[02:31] <goodtime> good bot there
[02:31] <rattatoue> SillyTalker, private message, if your on xchat look on the left.
[02:31]  * dlentz stops entering his password
[02:31] <SillyTalker> LL2|Android, its not ok to give harmfull advice here, and it does NOT make you look cool..... at all....
[02:32] <dlentz> it's fairly obvious s/he was joking
[02:32] <LL2|Android> Yeah, as dlentz says, it was indeed a joke
[02:32] <blud> i just did what that guy said and now all my stuff is gone
[02:32] <blud> lol jk
[02:33] <LL2|Android> Though it would kinda answer their question, tbh
[02:33] <w0uld> RenatoSilva, you mean when you plug in a USB device with a NTFS partition?
[02:33] <blud> so um, im trying to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 and it says Could not calculate the upgrade...
[02:34] <blud> it says unable to correct problems you have held broken packages
[02:34] <blud> how can i fix this?\
[02:34] <RenatoSilva> w0uld: no it's on the hdd
[02:34] <LL2|Android> Did you try 'apt-get update'
[02:34] <rattatoue> blud, try sudo apt-get -f install first followed by sudo dpkg --configure -a, then try to do the upgrade
[02:34] <dakis> When will it end? When will the United States of America move beyond this obscene blemish in its short history? How many more must be violated? How many more relationships handicapped by the male's heavy psychological burden and by his sensual-sexual inadequacy?
[02:34] <LL2|Android> Actually
[02:35] <goodtime> hahaha try apt-get install upgrade it might workfor you blud
[02:35] <LL2|Android> Try 'apt-get check'
[02:35] <Uncle_Fester> i have a problem
[02:35] <LL2|Android> Lol goodtime
[02:35] <goodtime> hahaha
[02:35] <dlentz> !ask | Uncle_Fester
[02:35] <Uncle_Fester> how do i navigate to my virtual c in wine?  i'm using ubuntu 11.10
[02:35] <RenatoSilva> who were talking to me?
[02:35] <blud> goodtime: it says Unable to locate package upgrade if i do that
[02:36] <Uncle_Fester> guess i dont know proper ediquit
[02:36] <LL2|Android> dlentz: does !ask>username work too?
[02:36]  * dlentz shrugs
[02:36] <goodtime> sorry to hear blud
[02:36] <LL2|Android> I see why it uses the pipe, as a reference to bash stuff, but just wondering
[02:36] <c_smith_> yet, s/he shouldn't have even been joking about it, as it's the equivellant of joking about murder, as "sudo rm -r /" kills the Unix/Unix-like OS currently running, essentially you are murdering it.
[02:36] <geaek> heyy
[02:36] <dlentz> Uncle_Fester, are you asking what folder is your C drive?
[02:37] <rattatoue> blud, have you added any ppas?
[02:37] <LL2|Android> c_smith_: see !danger
[02:37] <blud> yes some custom intel driver, i been trying to figure out how to remove it
[02:37] <Uncle_Fester> in older ubuntu i could just navigate to virtual c and uninstall a program
[02:37] <blud> i have ppa-purge but i dont dseem to be able to figure out how to use it
[02:37] <Uncle_Fester> now i cvant
[02:38] <c_smith_> LL2|Android: I did, I was just saying what the results of it is in essence.
[02:38] <Uncle_Fester> what i'm trying to do is uninstall a program that i have in wine.
[02:38] <rattatoue> blud, sudo apt-get install ppa-purge, then sudo ppa-purge whateverthenameoftheppawas
[02:38] <c_smith_> Uncle_Fester: there are two ways of going about that.
[02:38] <dlentz> wow, i just realized i haven't used wine in years
[02:38] <xangua> !ppa-purge | blud
[02:38] <Uncle_Fester> tell me the easy way
[02:39] <goodtime> ive never been able to run wine ever!
[02:39] <blud> well is the name of the ppa  "LA-PPA-glasen-intel-driver ??  like does that look right?
[02:39] <ssshvb> hey   i have an rpm file (maya 2012 ) do i need to convert it to  the dep by alien   or i can just unpack it and copy  to the foleder where it has to be   ( i have it installed before  it is just a new  sp )
[02:39] <Uncle_Fester> in 10.04 i could just navigate to it now with this new desktop i cant find anything
[02:39] <dlentz> blud, it's ppa:glasen/intel-driver
[02:40] <w0uld> RenatoSilva, if you have a NTFS partition on your hard drive, the easiest way I know of to mount it is to add an entry to the fstab.
[02:40] <Lesterwood> guys, why don't you own firearms?
[02:40] <rattatoue> blud, there you go use the ppa-purge to remove that
[02:40] <Uncle_Fester> i dont like kde at all
[02:40] <LL2|Android> SillyTalker: might I suggest something else with that command thing?
[02:40] <RenatoSilva> w0uld: installed pysdm but it asks for a name to mount, I don't want to specify a mounting point, it should be dynamically determined from the ntfs partition label
[02:41] <goodtime> yeah ive used the fstab to format hdd
[02:41] <reCAPTCHA> Hey all.. I am trying to play a game, but I keep getting a pulse audio error. http://www.pasteall.org/29334
[02:41] <dlentz> Lesterwood, i don't want to shoot anyone at them moment (though the urge is rising ;) )
[02:41] <c_smith_> Uncle_Fester: as I was saying, go to the menu, go to Wine, and select "Uninstall Wine Software" or whatever looks similar.
[02:41] <Uncle_Fester> which menu?
[02:41] <SillyTalker> LL2|Android, no need to ask, but im going for a little break, so i wont read it untill i get back
[02:41] <Uncle_Fester> i dont see one
[02:41] <blud_> i try to purge this ppa, but it says Warning could not find package list for PPA
[02:41] <Flip_> I know I've asked before - but anyone new joined that might know about RAID1 config in ubuntu lts
[02:42] <SillyTalker> i got a /msg from LL2|Android with maliscious advice
[02:42] <SillyTalker> any ops around?
[02:42] <SillyTalker> *malicious
[02:42] <ejv> !ops
[02:42] <Uncle_Fester> there was a menu in 10.04 but not in 11.10
[02:42] <w0uld> RenatoSilva, you'll have to mount it if you want to read from and write to your NTFS partition.
[02:42] <ejv> there ya go SillyTalker ^
[02:42] <LL2|Android> SillyTalker: coming from a guy who heard me say before that I WAS JOKING
[02:42] <RenatoSilva> w0uld: I don't want to install ntfs-3g or something, I just wanted to right lick the drive in unity and set some mount on startup flag
[02:42] <rattatoue> blud, try sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:glasen/intel-driver
[02:43] <SillyTalker> its not funny, nto the first time, and not over /msg either
[02:43] <SillyTalker> its just not done, nor allowed here afaik
[02:43] <SillyTalker> again, it does NOT make you look cool....
[02:43] <RenatoSilva> w0uld: I think I'll search for a solution later, thanks!
[02:43] <elky> LL2|Android, this is easily resolved by not making such jokes. can you do that for us?
[02:43] <ejv> SillyTalker: if LL2|Android is irritating you, /ignore him, just move along
[02:43] <w0uld> So you want it to mount under /media/?
[02:43] <LL2|Android> Yes
[02:43] <SillyTalker> ejv, the ops should know about his "jokes"
[02:43] <blud_> how can i figure out (find) the name of a ppa??
[02:43] <SillyTalker> ejv, if you disagree, ignore me and move along
[02:43] <LL2|Android> -_-
[02:44] <elky> LL2|Android, thanks.
[02:44] <Uncle_Fester> i dont see where to do this
[02:44] <LL2|Android> Np, elky
[02:44] <elky> SillyTalker, he's said he won't do it again, so lets move on ok?
[02:44] <ejv> im not the one making a fuss, therefor im moving along lol
[02:44] <geaek> hey everyone, i have ubuntu 10.10 on mah netbook, 1 out of 4 times when waking it up from sleep, the screen gets all scrambled and nothing will respond. Anyone run into this problem?
[02:45] <SillyTalker> elky, sure i didnt see that part yet
[02:45]  * LL2|Android pushes ejv away, to help him finish his mission of moving along
[02:45] <LL2|Android> :P
[02:45] <SillyTalker> loool
[02:45] <Sintrigue> geaek: what video drivers?
[02:45] <elky> SillyTalker, <elky> LL2|Android, this is easily resolved by not making such jokes. can you do that for us?  <LL2|Android> Yes
[02:45] <elky> now, moving on.
 similar problem here....no one had any answers for me
[02:45] <Uncle_Fester> i got something called main menu open but it wont let me select uninstall program from wine
[02:45] <ejv> we were all moved on already elky, then you brought it back :P
[02:45] <geaek> sintrigue i have the most up to date for geforce 9300m
[02:46] <elky> ejv, i was responding to the last thing SillyTalker directed at me.
[02:46] <LL2|Android> Oh wow
[02:46] <ejv> i was jokin, nvm :)
[02:46] <SillyTalker> elky, i meant i didnt see that part  yet until you said it the first time
[02:46] <SillyTalker> ffs....
[02:47] <ejv> !lts
[02:47] <Uncle_Fester> well i gues  noone knows
[02:47] <ejv> !12.04
[02:47] <blud_> rattatoue: yeah ok that did it, i just didnt know how to figure out the name of the ppa, but that was it
[02:47] <rattatoue> blud_, great to hear!
[02:47] <ejv> precise pangolin? really? they couldn't call it precise penguin... just wow.
[02:48] <BrandonBolton> Does anyone know how to bridge a connection with Ubuntu 10.04 to lets stay a desktop? I tried it with network manager, but I can only get "limited to no connectivity" on Windows.
[02:48] <playit_> how do you guys balance work with entertainment? im trying to find a way to watch my recorded things and work at the same time
[02:49] <playit_> I was thinking about transparancy or using gnome 3.2s half feature
[02:49] <Uncle_Fester> how do you uninstall a program in wine in ubuntu 11.10?
[02:49] <playit_> or possibly using another device as a virtual second monitor .. like a psp or a kindle or something
[02:49] <playit_> im using a laptop and don't know if a second monitor is an option or not
[02:49] <rattatoue> playit, If I do that I just usually split my screen. Half is the video and half whatever im working on
[02:49] <carp1> I think I have a video driver issue.  I'm not sure...Can anyone help?
[02:50] <LL2|Android> ejv and elky: sorry for the late message about this, but suggestion: take the fighting to PM if you two want to fight, k?
[02:50] <LL2|Android> K
[02:50] <playit_> seems good.. I was experimenting with partial transparancy
[02:51] <linux_is_my_hero> bazhang: you've helped me with stuff before.  you're smart.  can i pm you to ask you a quick question?
[02:51] <reCAPTCHA> Hey all.. I am trying to play a game, but I keep getting a pulse audio error. http://www.pasteall.org/29334
[02:51] <LL2|Android> playit: you  were experimenting with making yourself invisible? :P jk
[02:51] <linux_is_my_hero> recaptcha: nice handle! very creative :-)
[02:52] <playit_> haha yes.. it didn't work and I got arrested :\
[02:52] <elky> LL2|Android, we ops find that doing all moderation in private means we have to explain things ten times over and nobody in the channel ever learns.
[02:52] <linux_is_my_hero> elky: is drm off limits in here?
[02:53] <reCAPTCHA> linux_is_my_hero: Yeah, they like it so much that they put it on the login screen.
[02:53] <LL2|Android> elky: true, but I said if it was you and ejv fighting over the problem that I had, not about moderation
[02:53] <goodtime> i learn in here elky
[02:53] <goodtime> sink or swim i say
[02:54] <linux_is_my_hero> elky: is it wrong to want to print a kindle ebook so i can study with a real book?
[02:54] <elky> linux_is_my_hero, that's technically up to each helper, but it's generally discouraged. we don't want to be known as a piracy channel
[02:54] <LL2|Android> playit_: lol
[02:54] <elky> linux_is_my_hero, printing is fair use for educational purposes under pretty much all copyright legislation i'm aware of. ianal though
[02:54] <goodtime> yeah i wouldnt setup a fserver
[02:55] <goodtime> there been a few crackdowns
[02:55] <ejv> LL2|Android: elky and I weren't fighting btw lol
[02:55] <patrick__> does anyone know anything a bout xchat plugins
[02:55] <linux_is_my_hero> elky: as for piracy, i do understand.  as for printing, the kindle eReader software for windows doesn't have a print button.  any ideas?
[02:55] <reCAPTCHA> Hey all.. I am trying to play a game, but I keep getting a pulse audio error. http://www.pasteall.org/29334
[02:56] <Uncle_Fester> so i guess there is no way to do it?
[02:56] <aeon-ltd> patrick__: they do in #xchat
[02:56] <elky> linux_is_my_hero, find better software? i don't know if calibre has a print button or not
[02:57] <patrick__> thank you
[02:57] <linux_is_my_hero> elky: okay.  thank you.
[02:57] <aeon-ltd> Uncle_Fester: btw are you fezz parka?
[02:57] <elky> also, we generally don't go supporting windows software in #ubuntu, it's kind of beside the point ;)
[02:57] <ejv> linux_is_my_hero: i recommend #windows
[02:57] <Uncle_Fester> no i'm just really confused
[02:57] <Uncle_Fester> and needed some help
[02:57] <carp1> I think I have a video driver issue.  I'm not sure...Can anyone help?
[02:57] <mkdrag0n> dont get confused, choose linux =)
[02:58] <LL2|Android> ejv: its ##windows actually
[02:58] <ejv> omg, stop knit picking lol, it'll redirect automagically
[02:58] <Uncle_Fester> i came here looking for help and not even getting any
[02:59] <LL2|Android> ejv: you mean automatically
[02:59] <linux_is_my_hero> ejv: my gf wants to study with a book she bought on kindle and then print it.  her windows kindle eReader software doesnt work very well.  i don't care for windows.  i use linux, so i put her ebook on a thumbdrive, installed calibre, and calibre is acting funny on my ubuntu computer.  lucky me, huh?
[02:59]  * LL2|Android runs
[02:59] <LL2|Android> Lol
[02:59] <linux_is_my_hero> elky: i meant calibre for ubuntu (my computer).  i apoligize for not being more specific.
[02:59] <LL2|Android> Jk
[02:59] <ejv> -_-
[03:00] <Uncle_Fester> i may just try a diiferent distro.  maybe there is better support
[03:00] <[deXter]> Uncle_Fester, Love your nick. :)
[03:00] <Uncle_Fester> thanks
[03:00] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, whats your problem exactly? sorry I missed it
[03:00] <ejv> linux_is_my_hero: sorry, i don't know much about that stuff, sounds like it's a shame that kindle isn't releasing their content free of DRM, but that's an subject for another channel
[03:01] <ejv> linux_is_my_hero: all I can say is don't support DRM :)
[03:01] <Uncle_Fester> i just recently updated from ubuntu 10.04 to 11.10
[03:01] <patrick__> does ubuntu support python
[03:01] <linux_is_my_hero> ejv: yup
[03:01] <ejv> patrick__: of course
[03:01] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, okay. And?
[03:02] <ejv> Uncle_Fester: the quality of support you get here, is a function of the quality and thoroughness of details you provide to us.
[03:02] <linux_is_my_hero> ejv, elky: thanks for your suggestions, though, that should give me so more ideas if i cant get ubuntu calibre to work.  y'all have a good night :-)
[03:02] <patrick__> ok is there a place i can a get a full free version of python
[03:02] <Uncle_Fester> and i have wine installed. i used to just go to applications and go to wine and uninstall a program.  but now with this new desktop i cant figure out how to uninstall a program from wine
[03:03] <Uncle_Fester> i just want to know how to uninstal a program in wine in ubuntu 11.10
[03:03] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-9893ae50079ca7a959258f0bc9a17aaf2e69b391 go there and go to 4.2 It says how to uninstall a program in wine.
[03:03] <[deXter]> O.o
[03:03] <staniki> hi guys, been logged in for hours now, was watching a video on banshee all of a sudden my display resolution reduces drastically and my display is no longer detected HELP PLEASE!
[03:03] <ejv> patrick__: i think you're confused, python has a PSFL license, similar to GPL; you can fetch python from any Ubuntu repository, for free (as in beer)
[03:03] <rattatoue> staniki, not to state the obvious did you try restarting the computer?
[03:03] <Uncle_Fester> i already looked at it
[03:03] <staniki> yes I did
[03:03] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, and did you try it?
[03:04] <Uncle_Fester> have no clue on how
[03:04] <Flip_> is anyone familiar with adding a RAID1 array into an already installed ubuntu os
[03:04] <Uncle_Fester> nothing shows up in the uninstaller
[03:04] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, in a terminal run wine uninstaller
[03:04] <Flip_> i need ubuntu on a separate drive from the raid
[03:04] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, oh strange. Hmm.
[03:05] <Uncle_Fester> i did. and no programs show up
[03:05] <LL2|Android> Lol
[03:05] <rattatoue> staniki, is your video card nvidia by any chance?
[03:05] <Uncle_Fester> now the uninstaller wont show up
[03:05] <ejv> staniki: i haven't wrestled with ubuntu on a workstation for quite some time, but in the past, i'd invoke a `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` to reinitiliaze the environment
[03:05] <decaf> can I just dd lucid desktop iso to usb stick and hope it works?
[03:05] <LL2|Android> "Thing, Emma Jig. I now pronounce you hand in hand"
[03:05] <staniki> no i'm using the onboard graphics card, i am not 100% what it is but its definitely an intel product
[03:06] <zykotick9> decaf: it won't - it's not hybrid like 11.10
[03:06] <xangua> decaf: lucid no, you can with oneiric i believe
[03:06] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, sounds like you might need to reinstall your wine
[03:06] <Uncle_Fester> it opens and closes really fast
[03:06] <Uncle_Fester> yea i'll do that
[03:07] <staniki> tried that ejv doesn;t work
[03:07] <decaf> zykotick9, xangua  I'm on debian, couldn't find a syslinux howto for desktop cd, grub4dos website is down
[03:07] <Uncle_Fester> thaks
[03:07] <Flip_> HELP WITH RAID :/
[03:07] <ejv> staniki: sorry dude
[03:07] <rattatoue> staniki, are you running nvidia?
[03:07] <carp1> My laptop goes into terminal and it says there was a panic.  From here, my laptop is froze and I have to force reboot.  Can someone help me?
[03:07] <staniki> rattatoue not running nvidida
[03:07] <ejv> Flip_: be more specific.
[03:07] <staniki> using my onboard graphics
[03:07] <staniki> not 100% sure what it is
[03:07] <Flip_> I setup a RAID sync when I first installed the live CD with ubuntu server
[03:08] <Flip_> I loaded the gnome desktop cause I'm not so crafty with CLI
[03:08] <xangua> decaf: you can use unetbootin to make a bootable ubuntu stick
[03:08] <Flip_> I can see the RAID config in the disk utility
[03:08] <ejv> you try reinstalling xserver ?
[03:08] <Flip_> but I cannot access the raid as though it is not mounted
[03:08] <Flip_> I have my OS on sda my raid is sdb and sdc and i have afourth drive for misc and that is sdd
[03:08] <ejv> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg followed by a reboot ? that's how i'd solve it few years ago
[03:08] <rattatoue> staniki, guessing probably intel
[03:09] <decaf> xangua: unetbootin couldn't detect my usb. but I found grub4dos at sourceforge
[03:09] <LL2|Android> ejv: speaking of that
[03:09] <staniki> yes it is an intel product, i'm very new to linux so bear with me if I seem a bit slow
[03:09] <LL2|Android> Mind helping me with installing some gui on my ssh server?
[03:09] <Flip_> ejv any ideas
[03:09] <LL2|Android> I can give you access if need
[03:10] <LL2|Android> *needed
[03:10] <ejv> i'd rather explain, the various desktop environments are available in meta packages i believe, so sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for instance should give you what you want
[03:10] <LL2|Android> Ok`
[03:10] <rattatoue> LL2 did you try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop so on?
[03:10] <ejv> you can replace that with lxde, xfce, kde, etc.
[03:10] <LL2|Android> Well
[03:10] <Flip_> make sure you change your sources.list file before you install dsktop gui
[03:10] <LL2|Android> I do use root to install apts
[03:10] <ejv> i don't know the exact names, you'll need to google or check the ubuntu community docs
[03:11] <LL2|Android> Which is the default ccount
[03:11] <LL2|Android> So I don't need sudo at the beginning
[03:11] <LL2|Android> But thanks
[03:11] <Flip_> Android: changes the # in the etc/apt/sources.list
[03:11] <LL2|Android> Allso, its just regular ubuntu
[03:11] <LL2|Android> I think it was 11.04
[03:11] <LL2|Android> 64 bit
[03:12] <Flip_> in 11.04 alter the lucid version to hardy
[03:12] <ejv> Flip_: is this a software managed raid via 'mdadm' or hardware fakeraid or dedicated hardware controller
[03:12] <Flip_> mdadm
[03:12] <LL2|Android> Holy crap
[03:12] <Flip_> it created the /dev/md0
[03:12] <LL2|Android> That is a lot of packages, ejv
[03:13] <ejv> so you said you can't access an unmounted block device, that sounds about right. heheh
[03:13] <Flip_> well yeah - i get that lol
[03:13] <Flip_> how do i mount it - i tried re-formating it to FREESPACE
[03:13] <ejv> you need to write a filesystem to it
[03:14] <Flip_> I need to store my movies and music on this drive so I can use it as a server and gain the redundancy of raid when multiple access takes palce
[03:14] <LL2|JedIRC> Damnit
[03:14] <ejv> i understand, is there anything important on it right now Flip_ ?
[03:14] <LL2|JedIRC> ejv: stupid android is screwing up on me
[03:14] <Flip_> nothing. I'm in the beginning stages. Just loading and reloading different ways tot see if i can get my result
[03:15] <LL2|JedIRC> Also, I like how you can answer yes or no instead of y or n
[03:15] <ejv> Flip_: ok that's fine, which raid level are you using again?
[03:15] <Flip_> 1
[03:15] <Flip_> 3.0tb drives
[03:15] <cloudgeek> host own domain
[03:15] <ejv> Flip_: alright, so you need to apply a filesystem, mkfs.[ext3,ext4,xfs,jfs,etc.] /dev/md0
[03:16] <Flip_> ahhh gotcha
[03:16] <linux_is_my_hero> help, my calibre won't open my ebooks.
[03:16] <Flip_> so I initially just partitioned them with GUID and set the RAID sync on them. Now I need to apply a file system?
[03:16] <cloudgeek> !Domain
[03:16] <linux_is_my_hero> ubuntu 11.10 x64, calibre 0.8.8
[03:17] <ejv> Flip_: yes, afterwards, you can mount it: mount /dev/md0 /mnt/raid
[03:17] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: how many formats have you tried?
[03:17] <Flip_> One other question. When I do my port forwarding. How do i access it for example (10.1.10..9/xxxxxx)
[03:17] <ejv> Flip_: writing a filesystem is, im not sure what the english word is, 'damaging' be sure you don't misspell and that you are applying the change to the correct block device.
[03:18] <Flip_> I need NAT to resolve to the correct mount
[03:18] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: *.azw, which i guess is amazons ebook format?
[03:19] <cloudgeek> any body how to use bind to host a domain name on our laptop
[03:19] <LL2|JedIRC> So ejv
[03:19] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: yeah
[03:19] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: do you get an error?
[03:19] <linux_is_my_hero> no, it just doesnt do anything.
[03:19] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: *no, it just doesn't do anything.
[03:20] <Flip_> ejv: you know anything about ip resolution and NAT
[03:20] <LL2|JedIRC> Basically the ubuntu-desktop package is a gui for ubuntu ssh?
[03:20] <LL2|JedIRC> And I'll still be able to use ssh by default?
[03:20] <ejv> Flip_: port forwarding is handled by your switch/router/$NETWORK_EQUIPMENT, you can get the ip address of your machine by typing `sudo ifconfig`, route information from `sudo route -n`, etc.
[03:21] <LL2|JedIRC> ima do 'sudo sudo'
[03:21]  * LL2|JedIRC has just caused sudo-ception
[03:21] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: try running calibre from a terminal, and observing the output when you attempt to open the file/s
[03:21] <zykotick9> ejv: i didn't think ubuntu needed sudo for ifconfig?
[03:22] <Flip_> Yeah... I got that down. I've done a lot of port forwarding but not with a Linux based file system. Just wondering if you know the route for the mount on port forwarding. Id like to be able to access my RAID on https port 443
[03:22] <LL2|JedIRC> reisio: is the ubuntu-desktop package basically a gui for ssh?
[03:22] <zykotick9> LL2|JedIRC: ubuntu-desktop has basically NOTHING to do with SSH
[03:22] <LL2|JedIRC> And will it still automatically send me to the ssh at first?
[03:22] <ejv> Flip_: sorry you're not making any sense to me
[03:22] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: uh, how?
[03:23] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: what version of Ubuntu?
[03:23] <ejv> maybe someone else will understand what you want
[03:23] <reisio> LL2|JedIRC: what zykotick9 said
[03:23] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: 11.10 x64
[03:23] <reisio> LL2|JedIRC: I guess from a really hardcore joking commandline POV you could say that, though :p
[03:23] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: try CTRL+ALT+t
[03:24] <reisio> then type 'calibre' (probably) and hit ENTER
[03:24] <reisio> close any open calibre first
[03:24] <Flip_> Lets say ubuntu is 10.1.10.9 - If I port forward https access to 10.1.10.9 it's going to go to the entire linux system. My other server I use to have would resolve to the main folder by 10.1.10.9/server/music/
[03:24] <ejv> Flip_: if you want SSH to listen on an alternate port, you can make adjustments to the daemon by modifying /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:24] <Flip_> hen when I type my static ip address in I would resolve to that one folder on https
[03:24] <LL2|JedIRC> ejv: how will I start the gui From ssh?
[03:24] <ejv> LL2|JedIRC: startx ?
[03:25] <LL2|JedIRC> ok
[03:25] <rattatoue> LL2|Android, I dont think you can. If you do it will only show you the log of the terminal not the actual gui on the machine. The machine itself will be the only thing seeing the GUI.
[03:25] <LL2|JedIRC> ejv: it shouldn't start the x gui server on startup, correct?
[03:25] <LL2|JedIRC> aw
[03:25] <ejv> LL2|JedIRC: i have no idea, im not following your setup.
[03:26] <rattatoue> ejv, he is sshing into his machine. And wants to start the gui and be able to see it through the SSH too. Which I dont think is possible.
[03:26] <Flip_> LL2|Android you can view your gui with "Chicken of the VNC" freeware
[03:26] <ejv> rattatoue: it is possible, via vnc or nx
[03:26] <rattatoue> ejv, I know that. I am meaning through SSH alone its not possible.
[03:26] <Flip_> vnc is the best way
[03:27] <ejv> LL2|JedIRC: check the ubuntu documentation about 'nxserver'
[03:27] <ejv> rattatoue: nxserver occurs over ssh.
[03:27] <Flip_> SSH is not possible your right rattatoue
[03:27] <RenatoSilva> how to remove unetbootin from my usb stick? I've installed ubuntu already and I don't need it to be bootable anymore
[03:27] <reisio> it's possible even without VNC
[03:27] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: its says the ebook is locked by drm, which is off-topic in here.  can i PM you?
[03:27] <Uncle_Fester> i just updated to ubuntu 11.10 and can't figure out how to shut down.  in 10.04 i just went to the upper right hand corner and had the option.  where is it in 11.10?
[03:27] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: it said that in the terminal but not in a window?
[03:28] <ejv> fyi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[03:28] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, upper right corner? The little gear looking icon.
[03:28] <ejv> (ssh based, and knowing is half the battle.)
[03:28] <linux_is_my_hero> Uncle_Fester: this one bothered me a lot too until I got used to it.  go to the gear logo in the upper-right hand corner and a menu appears that gives you power-related options :-)
[03:28] <LL2|JedIRC> ejv: what package, if any?
[03:28] <ejv> click the freenx link
[03:28] <Uncle_Fester> i dont have a gear
[03:28] <reisio> LL2|JedIRC: you might look into X forwarding, too
[03:28] <LL2|JedIRC> Oh wait
[03:28] <ejv> if you have ssh open and listening there's no additional configuration necessary for nx to function
[03:28] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, are you on unity? like where you have a dock looking thing on the left of your screen
[03:29] <Uncle_Fester> i am omn 11.10
[03:29] <LL2|JedIRC> where was the config file with the x11forwarding option?
[03:29] <Flip_> LL2|JedIRC what system are you running SSH from
[03:29] <Uncle_Fester> yes
[03:29] <ejv> if for some reason you don't have ssh open and working, there's always: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[03:29] <LL2|JedIRC> Well, I'm using a android tablet for ssh
[03:29] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, but there are different DE. Do you see icons on the left side of your screen? looks kinda like  a dock with firefox icon and a few others.
[03:29] <LL2|JedIRC> But the server itself is running ubuntu
[03:29] <Jordan_U> LL2|JedIRC: What is your end goal?
[03:30] <Uncle_Fester> yes i do
[03:30] <Flip_> You'll have to find an app that will run VNC if you're on a tablet
[03:30] <LL2|JedIRC> I guess to be able to use a gui in ssh
[03:30] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, then you should have a gear icon in the top right.
[03:30] <reisio> yeah, it's going to be a pain on Android
[03:30] <reisio> and most of the apps will probably be commercial
[03:30] <reisio> LL2|JedIRC: ask #android about it
[03:30] <almoxarife> anyone dabbled with dnsmasq over tor/proxy/socks?
[03:30] <Flip_> You're limited on tha Arch on android
[03:30] <Uncle_Fester> no. in the far upper right corner
[03:31] <LL2|JedIRC> Hmm
[03:31] <LL2|JedIRC> Should I use vnc4server or tightvncserver?
[03:31] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, do you see in the top right where your TIME is, then next to it shows whatever your username is, then next to that is a Gear\star\circle looking icon?
[03:31] <Uncle_Fester> it just shows me my user name and option to log in
[03:31] <ejv> clients for android is outside the scope of #ubuntu support; but it is possible with nx or vnc to spawn an instance of an environment remotely over ssh.
[03:31] <Flip_> You could try those
[03:31] <Uncle_Fester> dont have the gear
[03:31] <Flip_> See if Android can run chicken of the vnc
[03:31] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, are you at the login screen?
[03:31] <Flip_> I've had the most luck with that one
[03:32] <LL2|JedIRC> Well, ejv: should I install the vnc4server package or the tightvncserver package?
[03:32] <Flip_> I use it to VNC from my Mac to my Linux machine
[03:32] <root> hi
[03:32] <Uncle_Fester> oh wait.  if i go to the edge of the screen it gives me the option to shut down.  but i see no gear
[03:32] <Flip_> If you have gui already installed ubuntu already has a built in vnc
[03:32] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, are you on the login screen ? otherwise you should have the gear thing
[03:33] <LL2|JedIRC> How do I start vnc?
[03:33] <Uncle_Fester> no i'm on th desk top
[03:33] <smw_> hi all. Anyone know why I am getting this GPG error? http://fpaste.org/HuO7/
[03:33] <Flip_> Goto sharing and turn on screen sharing
[03:33] <smw_> did they switch keys?
[03:33] <rattatoue> Uncle_Fester, no idea sorry Fester. It should be there, its always been there for me on 11.10.
[03:33] <LL2|JedIRC> Flip_: however, I'm using SSH command line, not gui
[03:33] <Uncle_Fester> must be a bug
[03:34] <Uncle_Fester> i do get the option to shutdown now just no gear
[03:34] <Flip_> oh, well you have to install the gui first.
[03:34] <LL2|JedIRC> What connfig file had the x11forwarding option?
[03:34] <Flip_> SSH is only good for CLi
[03:34] <smw_> LL2|JedIRC, the sshd config
[03:34] <LL2|JedIRC> I did install the ubuntu-desktop package though
[03:34] <smw_> LL2|JedIRC, but it should be enabled by default
[03:34] <LL2|JedIRC> Ok
[03:34] <sacarlson> Flip_ you can also use ssh to run remote x applications
[03:35] <LL2|JedIRC> smw_: I assume it is in /etc ?
[03:35] <Flip_> Then reboot your machine and it shojld load to the desktop
[03:35] <smw_> LL2|JedIRC, yes
[03:35] <smw_> LL2|JedIRC, /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:35] <zykotick9> LL2|JedIRC: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:35] <Flip_> lol
[03:35] <smw_> anyone want to help me with my problem? GPG error: http://fpaste.org/HuO7/ should I be concerned?
[03:36] <cloudgeek>                           Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:36] <cloudgeek>  isc-dhcp-server
[03:36] <cloudgeek>  dhcp3-server
[03:36] <cloudgeek> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:36] <Flip_> I mostly used SSH to handle pkg for my AppleTV
[03:36] <skexies> Question: When installing Ubuntu, I get the pinkish screen with the keyboard and person at the bottom, then it goes to a blank screen.  The DVD drive keeps whirling and everything, so I think the installation is trying to continue, but the screen is black
[03:36] <cloudgeek> how to fix this
[03:36] <xangua> !gpgerr | smw_
[03:36] <sacarlson> Flip_: ssh -X user@hostname   will run the x apps on the remote on and display on the local client you are using
[03:36] <smw_> Flip_, I use ssh to handle everything :-P
[03:36] <ejv> !pastebin | cloudgeek
[03:36] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | skexies
[03:37] <foenix> i miss <=2010 ubuntu :(
[03:37] <Flip_> Really - you can run a gui with ssh -X
[03:37] <smw_> xangua, thank you. Should I be concerned I need to do that in the first place?
[03:37] <skexies> Thank you for the quick response, you guys rock!
[03:37] <smw_> xangua, did official ubuntu change their keys?
[03:37] <smw_> xangua, http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/Release
[03:37] <smw_> xangua, excuse me if I am a bit paranoid ;-)
[03:37] <Flip_> sacarlson can you alter gui
[03:38] <sacarlson> Flip_: it will apear the same as it was local alter?
[03:38] <Flip_> sacarlson interesting. I've not used that tag
[03:38] <Flip_> -X
[03:39] <Flip_> I do love shh
[03:39] <Flip_> ssh*
[03:40] <zykotick9> Flip_: using "ssh -X host" would require an Xorg Server running on your client (in your case android, which i highly doubt is possible)
[03:40] <Uncle_Fester> how do i find the synaptic package manager in 11.10?
[03:40] <zykotick9> Uncle_Fester: install it first ;)
[03:40] <Flip_> zykotick9 now that makes more sense...
[03:40] <Uncle_Fester> i thought it was by default
[03:40] <Flip_> It sounded a bit too simple :)
[03:40] <zykotick9> Uncle_Fester: it was removed
[03:40] <evildaemon> Hello, my IRC server isn't working.
[03:40] <Uncle_Fester> ok
[03:41] <LL2|JedIRC> How do I start the vnc server?
[03:41] <blahhh> I was wondering
[03:41] <LL2|JedIRC> Without the x server
[03:41] <evildaemon> I've started it with init.d and I'm not getting an open port.
[03:41] <blahhh> Why does my sound cut out about 45mins to 1hr
[03:41] <Flip_> LL2|JedIRC i'm so use to the gui the share menu is the best way I know how to set permissions
[03:41] <Uncle_Fester> is the only way to into terminal, by going to dash home and typing terminal in the searchbar
[03:42] <RenatoSilva> how to make usb stick unbootable as before installation of ubuntu?
[03:42] <LL2|JedIRC> I'll still be able to access ssh by default, right?
[03:42] <Flip_> yes
[03:42] <LL2|JedIRC> Ok
[03:42] <Flip_> SSH doesn't go away by any means
[03:42] <evildaemon> RenatoSilva: Unetbootin, or use the utility that comes with Ubuntu.
[03:42] <Flip_> You still have all the cap you had before and then some
[03:42] <sacarlson> zykotick9: Flip_: oh ssh onto an android ya I think your correct -X might not work there,  if it does I'ed love to know
[03:42] <zykotick9> evildaemon: notice "unbootable" ;)
[03:43] <evildaemon> zykotick9: Just reformat it.
[03:43] <zykotick9> evildaemon: exactly
[03:43] <Flip_> sacarlson I wold too - I've been trying to get my phone to connect vnc for ever - I' found the best way for the phone to work is through TeamViewer
[03:43] <evildaemon> zykotick9: If you have important stuff on there though, you should back it up first.
[03:43] <blahhh> Why does my sound cut out about 45mins to 1hr
[03:43] <zykotick9> evildaemon: ;) it's not me that's asking
[03:43] <RenatoSilva> evildaemon: can I do it from the usb stick itself?
[03:44] <sacarlson> Flip_: I gave up and just run a android simulator on my ubuntu
[03:44] <evildaemon> RenatoSilva: I guess you could.
[03:44] <Flip_> good call
[03:44] <RenatoSilva> evildaemon: oh I just deleted thefiles :(
[03:44] <RenatoSilva> evildaemon: and the iso :(
[03:44] <smw_> hi all. How can I fix "W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:44] <smw_> "
[03:44] <smw_> did they change keys?
[03:44] <evildaemon> RenatoSilva: Well crap. There wasn't anything irreplacable was there?
[03:44] <Flip_> sacarlson I need a new android so bad. i've done so much tampering and experimenting that mine is on the fritz!
[03:44] <smw_> I tried sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 437D05B5
[03:45] <zilly> After login, is .profile executed before .bash_profile?
[03:45] <RenatoSilva> evildaemon: the utility that comes with ubuntu? I'm in windows, will reboot and check and try to give feedback, thanks
[03:45] <sacarlson> Flip_: teamviewer is that a free app on android?  maybe that's why I failed to find a solution to not have to use the small keyboard
[03:45] <smw_> !gpgerr told me that that was the key and the system considered it new.
[03:45] <evildaemon> RenatoSilva: NO, that utility makes it bootable.
[03:45] <RenatoSilva> evildaemon: ok
[03:45] <Flip_> TeamViewer is free ;) as long as you use it for personal use (wink wink)
[03:45] <escott> zilly, the very top of .profile explains it is not read if .bash_profile exists
[03:45] <zykotick9> smw_: !gpgerr is for 3rd party keys, you're looking for ubuntu keys - should be a package i believe
[03:46] <RenatoSilva> evildaemon: both unetbootin and 'the utility that comes with Ubuntu'?
[03:46] <Flip_> I use TeamViewer for so uch
[03:46] <evildaemon> RenatoSilva: Uh, you should be able to just right click and overwrite it with a FAT filesystem if theres nothing important.
[03:46] <smw_> zykotick9, the question is, why am I getting this error?
[03:46] <evildaemon> RenatoSilva: Well yeah, thats what there for.
[03:46] <zilly> escott, what's the best way to execute a python script upon login, then?
[03:46] <zykotick9> smw_: the keys changes, or your keys are corrupt???
[03:46] <Flip_> sacarlson it's kinda creepy watching your screen move when you're controling from your phone
[03:46] <smw_> zykotick9, obviously the keys did not change.
[03:47] <RenatoSilva> evildaemon: not sure how usb booting works but, doesn't it have also a partition independent area like hdd's MBR?
[03:47] <escott> zilly, execute it in a startup script. i dont understand what the question part of this question is
[03:47] <smw_> zykotick9, my ubuntu-keyring is up to date and everyone would be complaining now ;-)
[03:47] <evildaemon> RenatoSilva: Reformatting should take out the whole volume.
[03:47] <goodtime> yeah
[03:47] <Flip_> I SUCK AT USB BOOTING
[03:47] <sgo11> hi, what is the best screencast application in ubuntu now? Is that still recordmydesktop? I don't see it gets updated within three years. thanks.
[03:48] <Flip_> I gave up long ago... don't know why it's my kryp
[03:48]  * evildaemon notes to himself to write a new screenrecord app
[03:48] <RenatoSilva> evildaemon: ok the problem is that I have GiBs of backup files (yes it was mixed with ubuntu install), I'm going to copy them to hdd then reformat it, thanks!
[03:48] <zilly> escott, I'm unfamiliar with startup scripts.  I'll have to check them out.  Thanks.
[03:48] <smw_> zykotick9, ideas?
[03:49] <evildaemon> RenatoSilva: Thats what i'd do. Just copy them to your computers HDD then reformat.
[03:49] <zykotick9> smw_: nope, sorry.  good luck.  change mirrors maybe?
[03:49] <RenatoSilva> zilly: an easy way to run something when you log in is the session manager, you can add stuff there
[03:49] <escott> zilly, presumably you would just put it in .bashrc, but you might want to wrap it in some kind of check of the $TERM variable so that it doesn't get started in situations that aren't appropriate
[03:49] <smw_> zykotick9, what mirrors are you using?
[03:49] <smw_> zykotick9, I am using http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[03:49] <zykotick9> smw_: won't help you ;)  i don't use ubuntu.
[03:49] <sgo11> I tried gnome-shell default screencast app, it eats up all my RAM. just wondering if there are any better ones than recordmydesktop. thanks.
[03:49] <Flip_> btw - found out BitTorrent is cracking down. Trackers are not who you think right now.
[03:50] <zilly> escott, doens't .bashrc only run when the terminal is opened?
[03:50] <smw_> zykotick9, I have another question. Should I trust the PPA mentioned here? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/how-to-install-vlc-2-0-in-ubuntu-10-04-11-10/
[03:51] <escott> zilly, .bashrc is sourced by .profile. just look at .profile to see where. is that not what you want?
[03:51] <zykotick9> smw_: up to you.  All PPAs are unsupported 3rd party, so do you trust that 3rd party?
[03:51] <vadi2> Are notifications supposed to be non-transparent on Unity 2D?
[03:51] <nathan28> smw_: if you read their code, sure
[03:51] <xangua> smw_: no ppa is for trust, you use them at your own risk
[03:51] <vadi2> They are a *real* bother because I cannot see anything under the notification, even with my mouse hovering it
[03:52] <zilly> escott, thanks!  I tried that before but it didn't work.  I probably messed something up, though.
[03:52] <smw_> zykotick9, I was asking if I should trust them :-P
[03:52] <nathan28> smw_: DYODD
[03:52] <smw_> zykotick9, I guess I need to find the src package and build manually after reading. What a paid
[03:52] <smw_> pain*
[03:53] <smw_> nathan28, eh?
[03:53] <erik__> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[03:53] <escott> smw_, you can trust the ppa, but don't trust anything i say
[03:53] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[03:53] <smw_> escott, thanks :-P
[03:54] <Pikkachu> hi smw_
[03:54] <craigbass1976> Anyone got a hp M1212nf?  I bought it because everything was supposed to work in linux, but I can't scan.  I believe there's a plugin I have to download, but I don't know where it is.
[03:54] <smw_> Hi Pikkachu
[03:54] <Pikkachu> smw_: not follwing but in general, you don't trust any ppa
[03:55] <smw_> Pikkachu, yeah. All the guides are like "it is easy, just add this ppa"
[03:55] <smw_> then I end up not getting the software :-\
[03:55] <trueGreen> him
[03:55] <nathan28> craigbass1976: do you have CUPS installed?
[03:55] <smw_> Any ideas on how to get the src package from a ppa?
[03:55] <Pikkachu> who was here helping me a few hours ago, I'm RenatoSilva. I was confused about what to do... it was a discussion about compiz, emerald, xfce, gnome, grub, windows, reinstall...
[03:56] <smw_> https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/vlc/+packages
[03:56] <trueGreen> anyone know how I can install pico on an AWS instance using yum?
[03:56] <nathan28> you may need to uncomment a line in the config for an HP usb all-in-one
[03:56] <Pikkachu> smw_: what are you looking for
[03:56] <smw_> Pikkachu, the src package used to build the vlc packages
[03:56] <craigbass1976> nathan28, I do.  I can print fine; I've not yet loked at cups logs for scan errors.  Would they even be in there?
[03:57] <Pikkachu> smw_: when I add a ppa in synaptic like the line shown in the ppa page in LP, it adds two lines, one being for source code
[03:57] <smw_> Pikkachu, ppa does the package builds... so it must have the src
[03:58] <sacarlson> smw_: I see there is another VLC ppa  than what you saw https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/master-daily  that has daily builds
[03:58] <nathan28> craigbass1976: you may need to be a member of the group "camera" for an hp scanner with CUPS
[03:58] <smw_> sacarlson, any way to tell if it is from videolan?
[03:58] <gerar> helo
[03:58] <gerar> hello
[03:58] <carp1> My laptop goes into terminal and it says there was a panic.  From here, my laptop is froze and I have to force reboot.  Can someone help me?
[03:58] <nathan28> just fixed a version or two ago, may not have hit Ubuntu repos yet
[03:59] <sacarlson> smw_: well if you see a link from there oficial site I guess
[03:59] <smw_> sacarlson, yeah
[03:59] <zykotick9> smw_: if your getting the source from the PPA, why not just use the binary?  (getting source from upstream "might" make sense)
[03:59] <craigbass1976> nathan28, I don't even see a camera group
[03:59] <smw_> zykotick9, getting the src package. Not the src.
[04:00] <smw_> zykotick9, the src package should have relatively few files in it including a link to the source upstream.
[04:00] <smw_> zykotick9, if it also contains the actual vlc src, I can always delete and replace it.
[04:00] <escott> carp1, any distinctive words in the panic?
[04:00] <Pikkachu> smw_: doesn't it add the src line for you?
[04:00] <carp1> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/photojan0635019pm.jpg/
[04:00] <smw_> Pikkachu, I am not trying to add the repo
[04:01] <Pikkachu> smw_: oh wait, the src line if for source of the app not the package sorry
[04:01] <nathan28> crankharder: is it a USB printer?
[04:01] <Pikkachu> smw_: you want the DEB source itself? just extract it
[04:01] <nathan28> unplug it, plug it back in, and see what dmesg says at the end
[04:01] <Pikkachu> smw_: .deb are compressed files
[04:01] <nathan28> or messages.log
[04:02] <escott> carp1, are you booting an installed system or a livecd?
[04:02] <carp1> Its installed on the drive
[04:03] <escott> carp1, you might try using a livecd to check the smart status of the disks
[04:03] <GreenEmber> the version of transmission in the repo is 1.93 how would I go about installing a different version?
[04:03] <carp1> escott:  Could you elaborate on that a little, please.
[04:04] <Pikkachu> carp1: he just left
[04:04] <carp1> I see that, thanks.
[04:04] <sacarlson> escott: carp1: I think you can see the disk smart status without a livecd boot unless the system is that broken
[04:05] <sacarlson> escott: sorry I don't think I read back far enuf to the panic part
[04:05] <carp1> I am using the system right now.
[04:05] <sgo11> hi, can anyone suggest a good screencast application in ubuntu? thanks.
[04:06] <reisio> sgo11: gtk-recordmydesktop?
[04:07] <sacarlson> sgo11: reisio: I've also used gtk-recordmydesktop it worked fine for me.
[04:07] <zykotick9> GreenEmber: you could check for a PPA with another version ("/msg ubottu PPA" for details) or compile from source.
[04:07] <reisio> sacarlson: me too
[04:07] <reisio> well, recordmydesktop
[04:07] <sgo11> reisio, thanks. that is the one I am currently using. but it doesn't get updated within three years. just wondering if there are any better ones. it does not record the top panel of my gnome-shell.
[04:07] <reisio> but this being where this is, I suggested the GUI :p
[04:08] <reisio> sgo11: there's one for accelerated stuff... it's called...
[04:08] <GreenEmber> zykotick9:i got the ppa but it hasnt updated past version 1.93...
[04:08] <GreenEmber> possibly because im running an older version of ubuntu
[04:08] <sacarlson> reisio: oh I remember one fault in record it didn't see the video screens playing on the screen
[04:10] <reisio> glc, that's its name
[04:10] <reisio> https://github.com/nullkey/glc/wiki
[04:11] <sgo11> reisio, thanks a lot. I will try that one.
[04:12] <zykotick9> GreenEmber: are you running an ubuntu version pre-10.04?
[04:12] <GreenEmber> im running 10.04
[04:13] <GreenEmber> now am i going to just have to build this from source to get the latest version
[04:14] <zykotick9> GreenEmber: are you familiar with checkinstall?  "/msg ubottu checkinstall" if not.
[04:14] <sacarlson> reisio: from that link it apears that it will only capture one application at a time,  or will it do a full screen?
[04:14] <GreenEmber> zykotick9: i am now, does that mean yes i do have to compile it myself?
[04:14] <zykotick9> GreenEmber: i have no idea.  but probably.
[04:15] <reisio> sacarlson: couldn't tell you
[04:15] <GreenEmber> i assume i should remove the one thats currently installed
[04:15] <SillyTalker> so i set my network settings in /etc/networking/interfaces, but it doesnt work
[04:15] <SillyTalker> fir a wireless network
[04:16] <SillyTalker> *for
[04:16] <sacarlson> GreenEmber: I also run ubuntu 10.04, normaly when you don't see versions of apps above a number it's because they move qt libs or others that aren't supported on the older versions of ubuntu
[04:16] <SillyTalker> what can be wrong? i set the essid, the key, the channel, ...
[04:16] <rattatoue> SillyTalker, back to your Private lol
[04:16] <SillyTalker> ok rattatoue thought you were gone or afk
[04:17] <zykotick9> sacarlson: GreenEmber i'd think Transmission 2.03 at least will work on Lucid (or probably should)
[04:17] <xangua> GreenEmber: if you use the transmission stable ppa you should have transmission 2.33
[04:17] <xangua> at least*
[04:18] <GreenEmber> xangua: i added the ppa but no luck
[04:20] <tomvolek> trying to do sudo pecl install uploadprogress  and I get a message no release available for package "pecl.php.net/uploadprogress"  . Am I doing something wring ?
[04:20] <GreenEmber> xangua: its still version 1.93 in synaptic
[04:21] <sacarlson> xangua: your right I see ppa support on ubuntu transmission up to 2.33 at https://launchpad.net/~transmissionbt/+archive/ppa
[04:21] <sacarlson> GreenEmber: and that was for ubuntu 10.04
[04:21] <xangua> (22:19:30) GreenEmber: xangua: i added the ppa but no luck - did you upgrade the system after that?
[04:22] <GreenEmber> yes
[04:23] <GreenEmber> oh wait hang on
[04:23] <GreenEmber> i think i did it wrong
[04:23] <GreenEmber> i accidentally added the wrong repo heh
[04:24] <bambanx> guys i have a big problem when i enter on my ubuntu when i log ,  it back again to the same windows for login and it say some about edit /etc/defalt/saned ...
[04:24] <bambanx> anyone can help me?
[04:24] <grkblood> are there any hdmi wifi transmitters compatible with ubuntu?
[04:24] <malibu> Does anyone know how to load the settings from gpointing-device-settings on startup?  I have to run it and move a slider slightly every time I boot to get it to apply.
[04:24] <GreenEmber> grkblood: what is a hdmi wifi transmitter
[04:25] <grkblood> GreenEmber, basically a wireless hdmi cable
[04:25] <GreenEmber> they make those?
[04:25] <grkblood> some companies do, yes
[04:25] <GreenEmber> would you believe it works now that i added the right repo
[04:25] <malibu> GreenEmber, Welcome to 2012.
[04:29] <bambanx> guys i have a big problem when i enter i log ,  it back again to the same windows for login and it say some about edit /etc/defalt/saned ..., what can i do =( ?
[04:31]  * Lint thinks that being locked out because of scanner is fun
[04:31] <nathan28> LittleFool: what's your problem?
[04:31] <nathan28> sorry wrong handle
[04:32] <nathan28> Lint: what do you mean locked out b/c of scanner?
[04:32] <Guest61569> hi. i installed awn for desktop, now my screen is blank with mouse cursor.
[04:32] <zykotick9> nathan28: bambanx's error deals with saned, which is scanner related
[04:35] <cloudgeek> sudo useradd -m -s /bin/bash fmaster
[04:35] <cloudgeek> useradd: cannot lock /etc/gshadow; try again later.
[04:35] <cloudgeek> how can fix this
[04:36] <Pikkachu> thanks all
[04:37] <phpn00b> cloudgeek, restart your pc
[04:37] <sacarlson> cloudgeek: maybe try logout and in or reboot?
[04:38] <ineddhelp> i need help someone need to pm me
[04:38] <sacarlson> ineddhelp: I don't see the question, did I miss something?
[04:39] <sgo11> reisio, just FYI. I tried eidete screen recorder. I think it's very light and fast. satisfy my needs. it can also capture keyboard press. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/eidete-a-simple-screencasting-application.html
[04:40] <ineddhelp> Any geek here knows if TOR is safe for online banking? Or any other account? Is it true wireshark can get our login on the entrance node?
[04:40] <SillyTalker> so, i beg you to tell me how to setup my networking
[04:40] <SillyTalker> it just wont work, whatever i try
[04:40] <SillyTalker> and i'm not a new user or anything
[04:41] <SillyTalker> whatever i do it will not connect to my wireless network
[04:42] <SillyTalker> ok nvm :o
[04:42] <SillyTalker> it finally works
[04:44] <cowslammer> when I try to view WMV files, X crashes and I have to reboot.  Suggestions?
[04:44] <Blue1> cowslammer: what are you using to view?
[04:45] <reisio> sgo11: cool
[04:45] <cowslammer> Blue1, I''m using the default app
[04:46] <Blue1> cowslammer: which is?
[04:46] <Blue1> cowslammer: did you install the codec?
[04:46] <superdave321> What do i need software wise for bluetooth?
[04:47] <cowslammer> blue1 it's the movie player
[04:47] <cowslammer> blue1 where do I get the codec
[04:48] <Blue1> cowslammer: i think ubuntu-restricted-extras installs that iirc
[04:48] <Blue1> cowslammer: do you have a name for the movie player?
[04:49] <zykotick9> cowslammer: if u-r-e doesn't have it, try w32codecs (or w64codecs) from medibuntu
[04:49] <cowslammer> blue1 that is the name so far s I know
[04:49] <zykotick9> cowslammer: Blue1 "movie player" aka totem
[04:50] <Blue1> cowslammer: okay that is what I was trying to determine.
[04:51] <Blue1> cowslammer: it sounds like the codecs maybe missing -- install as suggest, or try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:51] <superdave321> how do I search for a driver for a usb device?
[04:51] <damo22> lsusb
[04:51] <Blue1> lsusb
[04:51] <superdave321> thanks
[04:52] <damo22> find the xxxx:xxxx code
[04:52] <damo22> then google it
[04:52] <superdave321> Thanks!
[04:54] <scott_> Ctrl+Alt+f1 etc only gives me a black screen in both 2d and 3d unityy
[04:54] <cowslammer> blue1 what does the command line look like using apt-get
[04:54] <Guest73649> Ctrl+Alt+f1 etc only gives me a black screen in both 2d and 3d unity
[04:55] <Blue1> cowslammer: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:55] <balajinix> 123
[04:56] <rhin0> is it simple to replace xubuntu/ubuntu 10.04 as a partition (which is along side a copy of XP which I don't need to lose)
[04:56] <zykotick9> Guest73649: are you currently trying to use a vga= line with your kernel?
[04:56] <rhin0> I need to obliterate ubuntu 10.04 next to XP and replace it with xubuntu 10.04
[04:56] <Guest73649> No, I'm trying to install the Nvidia proprietray drivers
[04:56] <Guest73649> in Ubuntu 11.10
[04:57] <Lint> rhin0, they use the same repositories, why 'obliterate'?
[04:57] <rhin0> well I always just re-install
[04:57] <cowslammer> blue1 u-r-e is already at latest version
[04:57] <Blue1> cowslammer: ru on a 32 or 64 bit system?
[04:58] <zykotick9> cowslammer: your best bet might be to install the 2nd best media player on GNU/Linux VLC and see if it works.
[04:58] <cowslammer> blue1 32
[04:58] <rhin0> nobody knows?
[04:58] <Blue1> cowslammer: let me get over to my ubuntu system
[04:59] <reisio> rhin0: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[04:59] <Lint> how to request package deletion from the universe?
[04:59] <rhin0> ty reisio
[04:59] <Blue1> cowslammer: you would need to add the mediabuntu repo and get the w32codecs
[04:59] <reisio> Lint: become that package's author, then change the license and be a grump
[05:00] <Lint> and seriously?
[05:00] <reisio> seriously
[05:00] <reisio> free software, it isn't up to you
[05:00] <Blue1> cowslammer: this may help:  http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php
[05:00] <cowslammer> blue1 to what do i add mediabuntu -
[05:01] <Blue1> you can use synaptic
[05:01] <Lint> package is long dead upstream but still included, it needs to be fixed
[05:01] <reisio> Lint: free software
[05:01] <Guest73649> anyone know why tty1, 2, 3 etc is only a blackscreen in Ubuntu 11.10?
[05:01] <reisio> it's dead when it stops working or becomes a security risk
[05:02] <Blue1> cowslammer: private message ok?
[05:02] <reisio> and even then, pretty much only when it's so un-useful nobody forks it or maintains it
[05:02] <ZeloZelos> Guest73649, it should show a login
[05:02] <Guest73649> Zelo, what do you mean?>
[05:03] <ZeloZelos> you hit alt ctrl and 4 for instance, should show the machines name and login:
[05:03] <Guest73649> No, it's goes to a black screen
[05:03] <ZeloZelos> :/
[05:04] <ZeloZelos> dont see how thats possible
[05:04] <superdave321> Bluetooth dongle is not being recognised by my system. found it's usb id is 0a12:0001, but can't find helpful info online. acts like a missing driver. any ideas?
[05:04] <Guest73649> brb
[05:04] <damo22> could be your video drivers are not working in console mode
[05:04] <damo22> it does that on my mac
[05:04] <ZeloZelos> how crazy is that..guess its nvidea rofl
[05:05] <damo22> i think its EFI
[05:06] <ZeloZelos> heres a good one, when i install the nvidea driver for my sys, it disables opengl, which i have dual layered graphics nvidia controlled by intel hd
[05:06] <rhin0> nvidia seems to be like the only driver I see - always nvidia - everything nvidia
[05:06] <ZeloZelos> nvidia=microsoft=needed driver=big trouble all the time
[05:06] <scott__> How do I make my video drivers work in console mode?
[05:07] <ZeloZelos> scott__, do you need console mode?
[05:07] <damo22> scott__,  what kind of pc
[05:08] <scott__> I need to shutdown lightdm in order to install the latest Nvidia proprietary drivers...
[05:08] <rattatoue> Is there a ubuntu channel for 12.04?
[05:08] <Jordan_U> rattatoue: Yes. #ubuntu+1
[05:08] <ZeloZelos> rattatoue, maybe the coders channel, since its not released yet
[05:08] <scott__> It seems like even new version of Ubuntu, I have to go through a new learning process.
[05:09] <superdave321> Bluetooth dongle is not being recognised by my system. found it's usb id is 0a12:0001, but can't find helpful info online. acts like a missing driver. any ideas?
[05:09] <ZeloZelos> probably true scott__ , new versions=new options, more stuff to break..i mean play with
[05:10] <Jordan_U> scott__: What's wrong with the drivers installed by the Addititional Drivers tool?
[05:10] <Guest37391> Any one help me with the voice on empathy messenger for yahoo account on Ubuntu 11.10 32bit OS, the voice is grayed out in the menu, any ideas please ?
[05:10] <scott__> They have a demon.
[05:10] <god-zotac> does anyone here have the e-350 or e-450 zacate?  I'm trying to get fglrx with hardware acceleration working in 11.10 and everytime i try to play a video it crashes X,  this doesn't happen with the open source driver, but of course i don't have hardware acceleration with that driver either
[05:10] <scott__> and it keeps sucking my life force from me while I'm sleeping.
[05:10] <scott__> They sit on my chest...
[05:10] <scott__> it's real scary
[05:11] <nathan28> scott__: mine mostly just sit inside my computer running on treadmills
[05:11] <nathan28> more like hamsters really
[05:12] <nathan28> god-zotacc: that chipset sucks w/ fglrx and radeon both
[05:12] <nathan28> oh he left
[05:12] <ZeloZelos> ubuntu needs a team of 1000's to make drivers for video cards n trouble shoot them to end microsoft's check mate on functionality which is keeping ubuntu from playing those great games, sure theres a few..
[05:13] <superdave321> Bluetooth dongle is not being recognised by my system. found it's usb id is 0a12:0001, but can't find helpful info online. acts like a missing driver. any ideas?
[05:13] <reisio> ZeloZelos: that has nothing to do with video drivers
[05:13] <zykotick9> ZeloZelos: until you convince nvidia & ati (err amd) to open there drivers, not much ubuntu or any other distro can do...
[05:13] <reisio> ZeloZelos: if a company wants to make a game that requires DirectX, and then program the game so poorly that it doesn't run via Wine, that is something Canonical and everyone else can do virtually nothing about
[05:13] <reisio> zykotick9: nothing to do with drivers
[05:14] <reisio> as far as drivers go, Linux is outcompeting everything
[05:14] <reisio> there is no OS that supports more hardware
[05:14] <Lint> reisio, useless hardware
[05:14] <reisio> Lint: yup, useless hardware that someone needed a driver to use
[05:15] <reisio> the definition of useless
[05:15] <ZeloZelos> they are open to microsoft, which i bet somehow owns/controlls those companies
[05:15] <reisio> are you talking about nvidia & ati?
[05:15] <reisio> there are Linux drivers for their devices...
[05:15] <reisio> multiple ones
[05:15] <reisio> Windows has only one set of drivers for them
[05:15] <reisio> make sense please :p
[05:15] <ZeloZelos> but they break stuff
[05:15] <reisio> so do Windows drivers
[05:16] <reisio> the difference is you pay extra for a computer someone has assembled to work properly with FOO drivers preinstalled
[05:16] <ZeloZelos> or just dont work, but windows drivers work most of the time, with less problems, just click update driver?
[05:16] <reisio> comparing that to a computer you put together with minimal knowledge is not particularly useful
[05:16] <reisio> ZeloZelos: wow, okay so you're from a different planet :p
[05:16] <ZeloZelos> true
[05:16] <ZeloZelos> hehee
[05:16] <reisio> /join ##windows and just watch for a little while
[05:17] <reisio> it's the same as here, only they pay for it and it was already installed FOR THEM
[05:17] <Lint> reisio, why my 3 years old driver performs better than today's opensource? it's nonsence
[05:17] <Lint> *windows
[05:17] <SoulShadow> because it's opensource
[05:17] <reisio> Lint: why do we have to compare it to the open source driver?
[05:17] <reisio> Lint: if it's a nvidia or ati device, there are official drivers
[05:18] <SoulShadow> imo, FOSS drivers rarely work as well as their proprietary counterparts
[05:18] <reisio> open source always wins in the end, though
[05:18] <Lint> reisio, official drivers do not work on linux since 2009
[05:18] <SoulShadow> uh
[05:18] <ZeloZelos> ok so show me the driver that works with my nvidea m550 that dont break open gl
[05:18] <SoulShadow> what?
[05:18] <cowslammer> blue1 i'm using Xchat - how do I start a private msg?
[05:18] <SoulShadow> i use AMD's latest drivers in linux
[05:18] <SoulShadow> 12.1 catalyst
[05:18] <reisio> Lint: so you're happy to use 3-year-old drivers on Windows, but to do so on Linux... makes Linux lame?
[05:18] <reisio> nobody's making you update, either
[05:19] <SoulShadow> linux has a long way to go to catch the usability of windows
[05:19] <Lint> reisio, I CANNOT use 3 year old driver on Linux, it doesn't work
[05:19] <reisio> Lint: of course it works
[05:19] <SoulShadow> Lint: what card do you have
[05:19] <Blue1> cowslammer: lazy and use pidgin but I opened an im channel
[05:19] <Lint> X1300
[05:19] <reisio> SoulShadow: no it hasn't, don't be absurd
[05:19] <SoulShadow> radeon open source driver
[05:19] <SoulShadow> for the x1300
[05:19] <SoulShadow> works fine
[05:19] <Lint> it sucks
[05:19] <god-zotac> sorry for asking a question and leaving, i am trying to troubleshoot my radeon card using fglrx playing video with acceleration, and everytime i try to play something it crashes my X server
[05:19] <SoulShadow> i have an x1400 in my old inspiron
[05:19] <SoulShadow> works fine
[05:19] <SoulShadow> the CARD SUCKS
[05:19] <FloodBot1> SoulShadow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:20] <reisio> god-zotac: did you try another player?
[05:20] <bazhang> !ot
[05:20] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[05:20] <SoulShadow> just saying, the ubuntu page says this is the chat channel ;)
[05:20] <god-zotac> reisio:: vlc and parole both crash. vlc will play if i use the GLX output module, but with the default or XCB it crashes
[05:20] <bazhang> SoulShadow, not the chat channel, the support channel
[05:21] <bazhang> SoulShadow, #ubuntu-offtopic is the chit chat channel
[05:21] <reisio> god-zotac: so use glx?
[05:21] <god-zotac> reisio:: im trying to get it to work with hardware acceleration
[05:21] <ZeloZelos> i did :) id like to know which driver and where 2 get it that wont break opengl on my system, running nvidea geforce gt540m, which also includes intel hd graphics family
[05:21] <Saber-> So how about...  I have a symlink that mediatomb and mythtv can't follow unless I am logged into my serversomehow.  this seems really interesting to me
[05:21] <god-zotac> reisio:: if i wanted to use the GLX module i would have stuck with the radeon open source driver..
[05:21] <superdave321> Bluetooth dongle is not being recognised by my system. found it's usb id is 0a12:0001, but can't find helpful info online. acts like a missing driver. any ideas?
[05:21] <SoulShadow> "The best place to start for general help with Ubuntu or just to meet other Ubuntu users is #ubuntu or one of the many local language channels."
[05:21] <SoulShadow> ;)
[05:21] <SoulShadow> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/chat
[05:21] <god-zotac> reisio:: i have the Zacate apu, and it is kinda pointless to not try and get hw acceleration working
[05:22] <bazhang> SoulShadow, and?
[05:22] <SoulShadow> 'meet other ubuntu users' != support :)
[05:23] <bomberman_> [03:22] <SoulShadow> ;)
[05:23] <bomberman_> [03:22] <SoulShadow> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/chat
[05:23] <bomberman_> [03:22] <god-zotac> reisio:: i have the Zacate apu, and it is kinda pointless to not try and get hw acceleration working
[05:23] <bomberman_> [03:22] <bazhang> SoulShadow, and?
[05:23] <bomberman_> [03:22] <SoulShadow> 'meet other ubuntu users' != support :)
[05:23] <FloodBot1> bomberman_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:23] <zykotick9> god-zotac: are you aware that GLX is hardware acceleration (when it's not software emulated)?
[05:23] <Lesterwood> guys, remember the summer of 2006?
[05:23] <bazhang> !ot | Lesterwood
[05:23] <terminhell> Anyone have any problems?
[05:24] <god-zotac> zykotick9:: i'm aware that it doesn't take advantage of libva with that extension :D
[05:25] <Saber-> terminhell: poke
[05:25] <ZeloZelos> anybody have an acer aspire n i7 , nvidea gt 540m that has a good driver that dont break open gl?
[05:25] <terminhell> Saber-: *ouch
[05:25] <superdave321> Bluetooth dongle is not being recognised by my system. found it's usb id is 0a12:0001, but can't find helpful info online. acts like a missing driver. any ideas?
[05:25] <terminhell> bobo37773: howdy
[05:26] <bobo37773> terminhell: heylo
[05:26] <Etherael> Getting very sluggish performance in oneiric running in virtualbox with opengl / compiz, I recall it being a lot faster than this (feels around 15 fps) am using 2x HD6950 so it definitely isn't the hardware
[05:26] <Etherael> I remember a fix something like vsync in compiz config but I only see vblank now and ita ppears to do nothing.
[05:26] <Saber-> So how about...  I have a symlink that mediatomb and mythtv can't follow unless I am logged into my serversomehow.
[05:26] <Etherael> anyone have any idea?
[05:26] <nathan28> Etherael: how much ram, cpu and vram did you give the VM?
[05:26] <terminhell> Etherael: hardware acceleration isnt enabled somewhere
[05:26] <ineddhelp> jghjghj
[05:26] <Etherael> nathan28: max vram (I think that was 128mb) 3d accel enabled, 4096gb ram, 3 CPU cores.
[05:27] <ineddhelp> someone help me pm me right here right now
[05:27] <Lint> ineddhelp, mental?
[05:27] <bazhang> ineddhelp, ask in channel
[05:27] <Etherael> 2d video acceleration is disabled, but that's because the virtualbox manager said to disable it.
[05:27] <bazhang> Lint, thats unacceptable stop it
[05:27] <ineddhelp> Lint: No way. computer problem
[05:28] <nathan28> ineddhelp: i hope this is an awesome troll bomb
[05:28] <bazhang> !guidelines > Lint
[05:28] <Etherael> also it seems plenty fast for IO / CPU, just the opengl is very slow compared to what I would expect.
[05:28] <Saber-> !guidelines
[05:28] <ineddhelp> bashang: how do I ask in channel?
[05:28] <terminhell> *facepalm
[05:28] <bazhang> ineddhelp, type right here, thats how
[05:28] <terminhell> type right here right now
[05:28] <ZeloZelos> rofl
[05:29] <zykotick9> Etherael: VBox doesn't actually have Hardware Acceleration in VMs (ie. it's not using your graphics card directly), it's software emulated 3d - it's not going to be blazing fast
[05:29] <ZeloZelos> nice terminhell
[05:29] <terminhell> ZeloZelos: you missed a few good facepalms last night haha
[05:29] <Blue1> !imagebin
[05:29] <nathan28> Etherael: if you need performance avoid virtualization
[05:30] <ZeloZelos> Etherael, you running vb outta windows?
[05:30] <Etherael> nathan28: I know it won't be awesome, but I know also that I've had better opengl performance than this on a much, much slower machine.
[05:30] <Etherael> ZeloZelos: Yep.
[05:30] <ineddhelp> I cannot run Ubuntu smoothly on my computer with 512MB/1GB Intel Core Duo 1.8GHz
[05:30] <nathan28> ineddhelp: that's b/c unity gobbles up resources
[05:30] <ZeloZelos> Etherael, not trying to be funny, but did you get the drivers n stuff if applicable
[05:31] <nathan28> try a lighter-weight environment like xfce
[05:31] <ineddhelp> nathan28: what? can you explain and how can I resolve it?
[05:31] <Etherael> ZeloZelos: Got the guest drivers installed yeah, I'm not sure if there's anything extra needed beyond that, but I don't think so.
[05:31] <nathan28> ineddhelp: moar ram
[05:31] <terminhell> mooaarrrrr
[05:31] <nathan28> cpu is fine but unity is kinda heavy on ram use
[05:31] <terminhell> try fallback
[05:31] <ineddhelp> Is it OK if I use lubuntu? I can have 1 GB RAM at most.
[05:31] <nathan28> ineddhelp: yes
[05:32] <nathan28> lxde is nice
[05:32] <terminhell> lulbuntu
[05:32] <nathan28> easier than unity
[05:32] <ZeloZelos> Etherael, there are a few drivers for some systems (thats IF i understand it right) that help use the functions you are trying to use, but if it worked faster b4, probably not it, the reason i asked is if you may have updated/changed them
[05:32] <Lint> actually it's terrible to configure
[05:32] <nathan28> lxde?
[05:32] <ineddhelp> If I want to use Ubuntu, how many RAM should I have?
[05:32] <nathan28> no it's not, do you have a text editor?
[05:32] <terminhell> 2 ram
[05:32] <zykotick9> !requirements | ineddhelp
[05:33] <nathan28> ineddhelp: modern linux kernel recoomendations are around 256mb ram
[05:33] <terminhell> you need at least 2 rams
[05:33] <nathan28> but your desktop is going to eat more
[05:33] <zykotick9> nathan28: 1GB actually for Ubuntu
[05:33] <nathan28> zykotick9: i said kernel
[05:33] <ZeloZelos> Etherael, you have the lates vb right?
[05:33] <nathan28> you can whittled it down to a few MB
[05:33] <Etherael> ZeloZelos: Yep.
[05:33] <nathan28> but that's probably a bit advanced ATM
[05:33] <ZeloZelos> Etherael, did u upgrade it or install it that way?
[05:34] <Etherael> ZeloZelos: Upgraded a few times, can't remmeber exact revision I installed it on.
[05:34] <superdave321> Bluetooth dongle is not being recognised by my system. found it's usb id is 0a12:0001, but can't find helpful info online. acts like a missing driver. any ideas?
[05:34] <nathan28> ineddhelp: w/ 512MB ram go for lubuntu or another OOTB LXDE install
[05:34] <Etherael> This used to be just a vagrant box but I've added the ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[05:34] <ZeloZelos> Etherael, ok place 2 start, save your machine(s) and remove/reinstall
[05:34] <ZeloZelos> vb
[05:35] <ineddhelp> nathan28: can I use any Debian with 512MB or 1 GB?
[05:35] <nathan28> ineddhelp: yes
[05:35] <nathan28> don't remember what DE debian ships with by default
[05:35] <nathan28> but you'll be able to get lxde on it
[05:35] <ineddhelp> nathan28: really? I can't use Ubuntu remember
[05:35] <nathan28> ineddhelp: you might look into crunchbang
[05:35] <ZeloZelos> ineddhelp try dsl
[05:35] <bazhang> ineddhelp, #debian for debian support please
[05:35] <zykotick9> ineddhelp: debian is significantly lighter then ubuntu
[05:35] <nathan28> ineddhelp: lightweight, has OOTB configuration, fairly user-friendly
[05:36] <nathan28> check in their forums and /or IRC
[05:36] <ZeloZelos> can i say its full name in here (dsl)  d...small linux
[05:37] <Lint> zykotick9, how's that?
[05:37] <Saber-> That is so... impossible!!  ssh into my server.  Mediatomb can find its music directory fine.  If I close the ssh, it immediately loses it
[05:37] <bazhang> ZeloZelos, lets stick to recommending ubuntu supported derivatives please
[05:37] <zykotick9> Lint: it's OT
[05:37] <ZeloZelos> bazhang, true..didnt think of it that way
[05:38] <superdave321> I have a bluetooth usb dongle with id 0a12:0001 which is listed as useable in everything i can find online, but bluetooth utility doesn't recognise that it is plugged in. how do i resolve this?
[05:38] <ZeloZelos> ubuntustudio comes with xfce its pretty small, just dont install some of the stuff
[05:39] <ineddhelp> CAn I ask something, is it true TOR is not safe to login into accounts, because the last node can see your login info even with https
[05:40] <bazhang> ineddhelp, thats hardly on topic here
[05:40] <ineddhelp> come on, I change to Ubuntu for security and I add TOR to increase security
[05:40] <bazhang> ineddhelp, tor on irc?
[05:41] <ineddhelp> no on online banking
[05:41] <ineddhelp> all
[05:41] <pnorman__> tor isn't about security, it's about being anonymous
[05:41] <nathan28> ineddhelp: tor is a proxy
[05:41] <nathan28> in theory it anonymizes
[05:41] <Lint> ineddhelp, ubuntu won't affect your security much unless it's livecd
[05:41] <nathan28> in practice it's a little more complicated
[05:42] <ineddhelp> Wait a sec! What is LiveCD? I've been hearing that a few times
[05:42] <ZeloZelos> lint live cd isnt secure? good thing to konw
[05:42] <nathan28> ineddhelp: i hope this is a really good punchline
[05:42] <Lint> !live
[05:42] <terminhell> i smell a troll
[05:42] <urfr332gO> ZeloZelos, actually a ubuntu live cd is recommended it saves no data.
[05:43] <bazhang> terminhell, unnecessary
[05:43] <ineddhelp> You mean using it without installing it? I'm sorry I'm kinda dumb. Using it only from the USB?
[05:43] <bazhang> ineddhelp, sure live usb could do
[05:44] <bazhang> !usb | ineddhelp
[05:44] <Haze-_> just installed ubuntu 11.04 today with oracle VM VirtualBox , never used ubuntu before. anyone got some good reading material for new years ?
[05:44] <bazhang> check the last link ineddhelp
[05:44] <nathan28> Haze: google the rute manual
[05:44] <Jordan_U> !manual | Haze-_
[05:44] <zykotick9> !manual | Haze-_
[05:44] <bazhang> !manual | Haze-_
[05:44] <bazhang> heh
[05:44] <ineddhelp> Let me get this straight, for security, install Ubuntu to hard disk, then shut down, boot from an USB for LiveCD for security????????
[05:44] <Haze-_> thanks
[05:44] <bazhang> !rute | nathan28 Haze-_
[05:44] <Haze-_> !manual | Haze-_
[05:45] <Haze-_> ok
[05:45] <bazhang> ineddhelp, no
[05:45] <nathan28> ineddhelp: what do you mean, 'security'
[05:45] <nathan28> what is your concern?
[05:45] <nathan28> "security" means many things
[05:45] <Lint> nathan28, third party monitoring, apparently
[05:46] <ZeloZelos> anybody know how to get the nvidia driver for the gt 540m to work without messing up opengl?
[05:46] <nathan28> like an ISP? NSA? ACTA? good luck
[05:46] <ejv> you guys can discuss all that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:46] <ejv> (and girls)
[05:46] <nathan28> ejv: both of them
[05:46] <ineddhelp> I'm sorry. OK thank you I'm going. I misread about LiveCD is more unsecure. I thought it was more secure using LiveCD. SOrry bye :D
[05:47] <ZeloZelos> or has anyone installed a nvidia driver that broke opengl figured out how to fix it?
[05:47] <mohamedtouj> hih
[05:47] <mohamedtouj> how to hack wifi ?
[05:47] <Saber-> ZeloZelos: I don't mean to be unhelpful but my experience with hardware acceleration in linux is to just give up..
[05:47] <bazhang> mohamedtouj, not supported here
[05:47] <ejv> !ot | mohamedtouj
[05:48] <Saber-> That's pretty awesome.  How do I haxor the interwebs.
[05:48] <ZeloZelos> Saber-, you'r prob right, but ill keep pecking at it, maybe eventually
[05:48] <ejv> if you have to ask how, then you're doing it wrong.
[05:48]  * Lint starts to thijnk irc is useless
[05:49] <ZeloZelos> Saber-, its kinda ironic, i only got ubuntu/linux because blender runs way good (in its own environment) but then i got a new system because i needed more hardware for blender stuff hehee
[05:50] <ZeloZelos> and cant run blender because the driver broke the opengl, guess its another re-install for me
[05:50] <ZeloZelos> but leaving out the driver this time
[05:50] <Saber-> doh
[05:50] <zykotick9> ZeloZelos: did i see you mention you have one of those intel/nvidia graphics cards?  if so, i believe you need so special software to get that working correctly.
[05:51] <zykotick9> s/so/some/
[05:51] <ZeloZelos> zykotick9, yup yup, where do i start? hahaaa :))
[05:51] <zykotick9> ZeloZelos: sorry, i don't know - but someone else might.
[05:52] <ZeloZelos> zykotick9, where did you hear about it b4?..how do u know i prob need special software?
[05:52] <zykotick9> ZeloZelos: i believe there are perhaps 2 competing options... i just don't have that hardware and thus have no personal experience.  I've seen it discussed here several times before.
[05:53] <ZeloZelos> zykotick9, ah, gotcha...just breaks ma heart
[05:53] <Haze-_> what irc client would you recommend for ubuntu
[05:53] <ZeloZelos> xchat
[05:53] <rattatoue> xchat
[05:54] <superdave321> that's the default, right?
[05:54] <Haze-_> yeah
[05:54] <superdave321> thought so...
[05:54] <ZeloZelos> Haze-_, there is one that comes with kde its pretty nice too but dont know its name
[05:55] <rhin0> haze__:  pidgin
[05:56] <rhin0> pidgin or xchat for a bit more sophistication
[05:56] <rhin0> pidgin won't display unicode
[05:56] <haze__> i use xchat, i thought pidgin was for IM apps ?
[05:56] <rhin0> but pidgin is very basic and easy to set up/operate
[05:56] <ZeloZelos> can i install the nvidia driver that breaks opengl on a live session so i can mess with it w/o messing up the installed one?
[05:56] <rhin0> pidgin will deal with im - pidgin was gaim (aol instant etc)
[05:56]  * Blue1 uses pidgin
[05:56] <zykotick9> ZeloZelos: won't work, nvidia requires a kernel modules, thus requires a reboot
[05:56] <ZeloZelos> dang
[05:56] <rhin0> it'll deal with most chat protocols - very basic - part of most installations
[05:57] <rhin0> xchat gives you a log of previous chat automatically - deals with colors - unicode
[05:57] <ZeloZelos> is it possible to install to usb instead of running live ?
[05:57] <Blue1> so does pidgin
[05:57] <Saber-> Why can't my mediatomb or mythtv user access a symlink'd directory in their /home... unless I am currently logged into the server
[05:57] <Blue1> ZeloZelos: sure
[05:57] <Saber-> How does that even make sense
[05:57] <rhin0> there is also bitchx which people use but that is ncurses - only works within bash shell - again - more power
[05:57] <Jordan_U> ZeloZelos: Yes. The same way you would install to an internal drive.
[05:57] <haze__> test... 测试
[05:57] <Blue1> ZeloZelos: ru trying to install linux to a flash drive?
[05:57] <rhin0> blue1 - not automatically
[05:58] <haze__> oh nice, i like unicode
[05:58] <terminhell> what about irssi for irc chat?
[05:58] <zykotick9> rhin0: don't suggest bitchx (it's got issues), irssi is a good cli irc client
[05:58] <Blue1> rhin0: true that
[05:58] <ZeloZelos> Blue1, just for testing but yeah, i have a 10gb flash
[05:58] <Saber-> ZeloZelos: Yeah, no problems.  It's pretty neat to do that, and then use the internal drives for raid1 or something
[05:58] <Blue1> ZeloZelos: hang on I have a recipe for that.
[05:58] <sacarlson> ZeloZelos: how about making a custom iso file put it on usb to test your nvidia,  not sure about the details
[05:59] <arubin> Why does the Ubuntu website recommend the 32-bit version?
[05:59] <ZeloZelos> sacarlson, then id have 2 learn how to make a custom iso, about how the drivers work, and how to diagnose/detect whats goin on on top of the subtle differances between running off usb vs hard drive
[05:59] <ZeloZelos> ill probably get no where anyhow, but its worth a shot
[06:00] <rattatoue> I would guess because if someone is new and has no idea what there doing, no matter if there computer can run 32 or 64, 32 will still work on both.
[06:00] <zykotick9> ZeloZelos: Bumblebee is the name of one of those hybrid-graphics software
[06:00] <Blue1> ZeloZelos: http://pkill-9.com/ubuntu-2-go/
[06:00] <lucascastro> arubin: cause 32bits run on both machines.
[06:00] <lucascastro> 32bits and 64bits
[06:00] <ZeloZelos> thank you Blue1 cant wait to dig in :)
[06:00] <cowslammer> .
[06:00] <Diaoer> i think 32bit soft is  much than 64bit,and 32bit hardware is still more
[06:00] <Blue1> ZeloZelos: leave me some feedback - let me know how it goes
[06:01] <sacarlson> ZeloZelos: ya I'm not sure it's worth the trouble,  just create another partition on the hd you have and try install a secound copy of ubuntu there
[06:01] <haze__> how do you join a second irc server on xchat ?
[06:01] <Blue1> ZeloZelos: only 16 semiconvenient steps
[06:01] <cowslammer> blue1 pls re-open the private channel
[06:01] <Blue1> haze__: /j #channelname
[06:01] <ZeloZelos> sacarlson, heh...didnt even think of that..good lookin out man!
[06:01] <rhin0> arubin - because most machines were 32 bit
[06:01] <haze__> bluel no a second server without disconnecting from the first server
[06:02] <Blue1> haze__: oh don't use xchat so dunno -- I have use irssi though
[06:02] <superdave321> haze__: on your contact list, Room>Join...
[06:02] <haze__> ok
[06:02] <rhin0> haze__:  add server
[06:02] <cowslammer> blue1 vlc crashed the same way the other app
[06:02] <Saber-> in irssi you just type /connect <othernetwork>
[06:02] <ZeloZelos> Blue1, dont look too daunting to me @) ill get it going now, thanks again, im gonna do both, make the usb and a new partition to mess with, the usb ill make it a pocket copy to take to friends n show off hahaaa
[06:02] <Blue1> cowslammer: okay let;s go to im?
[06:03] <haze__> in mirc its /server -m  servername   to connect to multiple servers
[06:03] <haze__> not sure about xchat though
[06:03] <Blue1> ZeloZelos: hopefully avoid the pitfalls....
[06:03] <WaffleGod> http://imgur.com/hbwCr idk if anyone can see the error
[06:03] <WaffleGod> Will this disk still work
[06:03] <ZeloZelos> Blue1, n ill be sure to let you know how it went
[06:03] <ZeloZelos> in the comments
[06:04] <Blue1> ZeloZelos: thanks
[06:04] <Diaoer> i use the web.freenode.net,because soft version cant connect to freenode server
[06:04] <Saber-> WaffleGod: nope
[06:04] <ZeloZelos> i actually did this b4 but i used a microsd, and adapter, but you cant boot from that config
[06:04] <Jordan_U> WaffleGod: Probably not.
[06:04] <Saber-> Burn another one.
[06:04] <Blue1> ZeloZelos: yeah it's slower on a micro sd, depends on what class.
[06:04] <ZeloZelos> it was old
[06:05] <Blue1> ZeloZelos: and ext4 seems to work fine, no need to use ext2 -
[06:05] <Jordan_U> ZeloZelos: You can boot from an SD card, as long as the firmware supports booting from USB (or from its internal card reader).
[06:05] <Saber-> There's a chance the error is some part of the cd you won't use in your install, but unless that's the last cd for a hundred miles, it's better to juts burn a new one
[06:05] <WaffleGod> I actually dont have another cd
[06:05] <WaffleGod> and I am new to ubuntu
[06:05] <WaffleGod> So i figured I would come here and ask
[06:05] <Jordan_U> WaffleGod: Do you have a flash drive?
[06:06] <WaffleGod> Jordan_U Not where I am right now
[06:06] <gome> This may be the wrong spot to ask but the support from the website directed me here, can anyone answer a quick question on installing ubuntu?
[06:06] <ZeloZelos> Jordan_U it wouldnt boot from the adapter with the microsd in it, probably works with an sd card though
[06:06] <gome> After booting from a usb drive, I hit install, and i'm treated to a seemingly unending screen of ................ I can hit esc to cancel and enter to start again. Is this the installation process or does there seem to be a problem?
[06:06] <sacarlson> WaffleGod: do you have a usb flash disk (key drive)?
[06:06] <Pikkachu> Jordan_U: oh I got oneiric installed lalala lalala
[06:07] <Jordan_U> gome: That is definitely *not* the installation process :)
[06:07] <WaffleGod> sacarlson not where I am now
[06:07] <Jordan_U> gome: How did you create the USB drive?
[06:07] <Bsims> I got my new hw picked out 2nd gen core i5-2500, intel BOXDH67BLB3, 8 gig of ddr3, and a 1tb Caviar Black... any issues anyone know about graphics or stabilty wise?
[06:07] <ZeloZelos> gome did you use unetbootin or universal to install the installer/live cd ... and did you choose one of the recommended dist from the pulldowns or your own, if its your own it prob wont work
[06:07] <Pikkachu> gome: screenshots?
[06:07] <WaffleGod> How do I know what part of the cd is the error?
[06:07] <gome> hah. I figured as much. I used the unetbootin
[06:07] <Saber-> I like that my problem is too weird for anyone to have any idea how to help, lol
[06:07] <gome> sorry the universal
[06:07] <Bsims> Saber-: heh whats the issue?
[06:08] <sacarlson> WaffleGod: I assume from the error that the drive or the media is bad
[06:08] <ZeloZelos> gome downloaded a differant one instead of the ones listed?
[06:08] <Saber-> Why can't my mediatomb or mythtv user access a symlink'd directory in their /home... unless I am currently logged into the server
[06:08] <Pikkachu> Saber-: what problem
[06:08] <gome> and i downloaded 11.10 from ubuntu website
[06:08] <Blue1> Saber-: permissions?
[06:08] <Bsims> Saber-: did you check the permissions for the destination of that symlink?
[06:08] <WaffleGod> sacarlson I think its my disk drive
[06:08] <Pikkachu> Saber-: oh sorry no idea
[06:08] <ZeloZelos> gome the installer for dvd's and such wont run right but the installer program will boot on some of them
[06:08] <gome> and don't have screenshots atm, working on a different comp
[06:08] <WaffleGod> I am not 100% sure however
[06:08] <Saber-> If I ssh in, it works fine.  If I logout, it disappears from the mediatomb library
[06:08] <sacarlson> WaffleGod:  so without eather a cd media or flash drive do you have another linux system that is running within access?
[06:09] <X-tonic> Is ubuntu considering a python3 move anytime soon? say by around 12.10?
[06:09] <WaffleGod> sacarlson nope
[06:09] <Bsims> Saber-: assuming your permissions are correct ya got a wierd one
[06:09] <WaffleGod> Should I just try reburning the disk, but at a slower speed
[06:09] <Saber-> lol ya...
[06:09] <Pikkachu> gome: I successfully installed the downloaded iso onto my usb stick today using unetbootin
[06:09] <gome> i followed ubuntu's instructions i thought on booting from a usb drive to install, what should i try instead?
[06:09] <Bsims> WaffleGod: Yup and check the md5sum for it
[06:09] <ejv> you don't need to wait for ubuntu, to get in on python3+
[06:10] <WaffleGod> Bsims checked the md5
[06:10] <sacarlson> WaffleGod: I have installed ubuntu from hd to hd,  ok that almost covers it other than boot pxe
[06:10] <WaffleGod> its good
[06:10] <Pikkachu> X-tonic: applications need to be compatible with python 3 for it starting becoming default
[06:10] <Saber-> I guess I can just move the media into mediatomb's directory.
[06:10] <ZeloZelos> Blue1 is it necessary to make the windows partition on it?
[06:10] <Bsims> Yeah try it on a lower speed, but it should work
[06:10] <gome> It starts with Loading /casper/vmlinuz.... then continues with the ......s btw
[06:10] <X-tonic> ejv, yeah, i know i could just download and use py3, but py3 is been around for more than a year now
[06:10] <WaffleGod> ok, afk
[06:10] <sacarlson> WaffleGod: I have installed systems over ethernet with pxe but never used windows as a host but it can be done
[06:10] <Blue1> ZeloZelos: no, but some people want that, that is how to do it though
[06:11] <X-tonic> and now i believe most of the apps work with py3
[06:11] <ZeloZelos> Blue1, ah ok
[06:11]  * Bsims is off to bed
[06:11] <WaffleGod> sacarlson I am not that good with this stuff, yet, and dont really have another computer I can use
[06:11] <Pikkachu> X-tonic: so you'd expect everybody or like 90% to have migrated from py2? that didn't happen afaik
[06:11] <gome> i'm wondering if maybe i missed some sort of setup process before where i'm at
[06:11] <WaffleGod> well, imma do it at 1x write speed
[06:11] <WaffleGod> cant go wrong there
[06:11] <Pikkachu> X-tonic: yeah your belief is wrong afaik
[06:11] <Jordan_U> gome: It's probably a bug of some sort, rather than an error on your part.
[06:12] <sacarlson> WaffleGod: then I would wait and buy a usb flash drive for like $4 and do it later
[06:12] <terminhell> gome: have you tried dd?
[06:12] <Pikkachu> gome: can't you just do it again, unetbootin?
[06:12] <gome> thanks, yeah I can try that. It took an hour and a half for some reason to burn the iso though
[06:12] <WaffleGod> sacarlson I am going to try burning it at a really low speed and see if it works
[06:12] <gome> and what's dd?
[06:13] <sacarlson> WaffleGod: yes always use the slowest speeds posible
[06:13] <terminhell> ill take that as a no. nvm, not sure how easily it would be to use to burn a cd anyways
[06:13] <WaffleGod> was using 12x before, gunna try on like 2x
[06:13] <Pikkachu> gome: it took me no more than 5 minutes to extract the iso onto the usb stick, yours seems a bit slow no?
[06:13] <Jordan_U> gome: Can you try booying the USB on another machine?
[06:13] <BoomerBile> is mod_rewrite enabled by default in ubuntu with apache2 freshly installed?
[06:13] <rhin0> usb-creator-gtk I always use
[06:13] <rhin0> it can take a while
[06:14] <terminhell> usb 1.1 drive????
[06:14] <Pikkachu> BoomerBile: I don't believe it is
[06:14] <ZeloZelos> ok, off 2 reboot n install to usb
[06:14] <gome> it was extremely slow, i'm not sure why it took so long. thought it was strange too. This system I am on should be more than capable unless the usb drive i'm usually is just extremely terrible
[06:14] <BoomerBile> Pikkachu, what do i need to install to get it working?
[06:14] <X-tonic> hm.. possibly.. but on gentoo for instance, about half a year back too, i could get nowhere with py3. Now however, each and every package I have installed, has been installed with py 3.2 and all of it working fine.
[06:14] <rhin0> usb is slow
[06:14] <rhin0> its a lot of data
[06:14] <gome> i can try dual booting on this system
[06:14] <ZeloZelos> thank s for the help guys and keep gettin da linux on !
[06:14] <sacarlson> BoomerBile: I don't think so but not sure
[06:14] <Pikkachu> BoomerBile: no idea
[06:14] <rhin0> i mean flash is slow to write to
[06:14] <Pikkachu> BoomerBile: I'd search for some package
[06:15] <terminhell> with unetbootin you may have to set the 'boot' flag in gparted or something else
[06:15] <sacarlson> BoomerBile: as I have mod_rewite active on mine but I think I changed it or a package I installed did
[06:15] <terminhell> and in some bios's you have to manually select the usb drive from the bios dev boot options
[06:16] <X-tonic> All I am saying is that at sometime the leap has to be made, and jumping to py3 as default will only accelerate the py3 migration of obsolete packages
[06:16] <Pikkachu> rhin0: I've downoaded oneiric iso today abd burnt it onto my sub stick with unetbootin, it took me just a few minutes... it was just about extracting not burning
[06:16] <terminhell> and sometimes just keep trying to boot from it a few times. Unetbootin is buggy at times
[06:16] <gome> gotcha yeah i'll try it again
[06:16] <Pikkachu> gome: I think it shouldn't be that slow even in USB 1.x
[06:16] <gome> i'm trying to see if i can boot from the system i'm chatting on
[06:16] <Pikkachu> gome: it's not a burning process, it just extracts the iso onto your usb drive
[06:17] <terminhell> well, its a bit more than that
[06:17] <gome> oh gotcha
[06:17] <rhin0> anything <= 5 minutes isn't an issue - point is whether it succeeds in the burn
[06:17] <gast2root> howto hide fast user switching in main bar?
[06:17] <c31r2g> live disk ubuntu 11.04 with unetbootin doesnt work atleast for me,use pendrivelinux soft instead
[06:17] <BoomerBile> thanks sacarlson
[06:17] <terminhell> with usb, best bet is dd. period.
[06:17]  * rhin0 never got ubuntu 10.10 to install once
[06:18] <rhin0> gave up on it
[06:18] <gome> would running ubuntu from this computer, installing inside windows from this usb drive i created from universal usb installer serve as the testing i need to determine the problem?
[06:18] <rhin0> skipped it (won't install)
[06:18] <zykotick9> terminhell: almost as good as cat ;)
[06:18] <gome> or should i try something other than universal usb installer?
[06:18] <BoomerBile> sacarlson, i guess it's a2enmod rewrite, then edit the conf files to allowoverride...
[06:18] <terminhell> dd...
[06:19] <sacarlson> BoomerBile: sounds about right
[06:19] <BoomerBile> sacarlson, thanks
[06:19] <sacarlson> BoomerBile: can't hurt to enable it two times even if it's already active
[06:20] <BoomerBile> sacarlson, yeah... gentoo guy here, don't use ubuntu much but i chose that for my server i'm renting... taking some getting used to
[06:22] <grkblood> how do i set deluge as my default torrent app in google chrome?
[06:22] <terminhell> its a desktop global
[06:22] <terminhell> preferred applications
[06:22] <gome> i guess i'll try to extract it again
[06:23] <superdave321> having problem with my bluetooth dongle with usb id 0a12:0001. any help would be awesome.
[06:23] <terminhell> gome what OS are you using to make the usb image?
[06:23] <grkblood> tereserm23, i dont see torrent as an option for default applications
[06:24] <gome> xp sp3
[06:24] <terminhell> first, make sure the usb is fat32 formated.
[06:24] <gome> got that
[06:25] <rattatoue> anyone got xbmc in ubuntu? I installed it and when I go to start it, it complains about missing OPENGL or something, but I am running on the latest Nvidia driver.
[06:25] <terminhell> download the OS iso manually. then with unetbootin select the .iso image option to manually search for the file.
[06:25] <gome> done that
[06:26] <rattatoue> gome, by any chance is the USB not booting?
[06:26] <gome> still don't know why the installer takes so long to extract onto the usb
[06:26] <terminhell> because
[06:26] <gome> it is booting to usb, i get the GUI for ubuntu at boot, so it is right?
[06:26] <rattatoue> gome, yes
[06:26] <terminhell> it has to unzip a huge amount of data
[06:26] <superdave321> rattatoue: Someone here was just saying that the newest nvidia driver actually breaks opengl...
[06:27] <rattatoue> superdave321, *facepalms*
[06:27] <gome> I apologize for being painfully new to linux. I've only used windows and I've read up on ubuntu and trying to install it on the laptop to see what i think
[06:27] <gome> the extraction is taking forever again
[06:27] <rattatoue> superdave321, okay ty
[06:27] <superdave321> rattatoue: np
[06:27] <sacarlson> gome: is it a very old laptop?
[06:28] <rattatoue> gome, maybe your computer is slow
[06:28] <gome> the laptop is pretty old, my computer should be fine
[06:28] <rhin0> I always use usb-creator-gtk (sudo usb-creator-gtk) gome - blank the usb then select the image iso, write - is always straightforward - so what if it takes a few minutes - 100% reliable
[06:28] <gome> unless i'm missing something
[06:28] <sacarlson> gome: try another usb plug if available
[06:29] <rhin0> otherwise write to a dvd - just write the iso (right click on the file in the file manager (nautilus)) and write after setting properties so it writes at the lowest speed
[06:29] <gome> 3 ghz athlon 64 x2, 6000+, 3 gbs ram
[06:29] <gome> i'll try another plug, good idea
[06:29] <rhin0> possibly his usb key is not blanked still has the windows filing system on it
[06:29] <plouffe> when I type "arp" it shows me about 50 IP addresses, all on the same interface, but only two entries with associated MAC addresses. Anyone know what all those entries doing there?
[06:29] <rhin0> way to blank them in windows
[06:29] <sacarlson> gome: I have a system that has two usb buses one is the older 1.X and one it 2.X and one boots much faster than the other
[06:29] <gome> and i may try usb-creator-gtk instead, thanks
[06:29] <gome> alright thanks
[06:30] <rhin0> just play around with it until you manage to blank the usb - sometimes you get locks with the usb filing system vs ubuntu
[06:30] <rhin0> unplug etc or even reboot
[06:30] <rhin0> always works eventually
[06:30] <rhin0> just usb complication
[06:31] <gome> gotcha yeah i've formatted it a couple times just to check
[06:31] <roshan> quit
[06:32] <terminhell> plouffe: it could be other devices in your area.
[06:33] <sacarlson> plouffe: I'm guessing wifi and your on a fringe of it and each reconect it provided another address
[06:34]  * rhin0 musta re-formatted written iso to usb key hundred times
[06:34] <sacarlson> plouffe: or it could be others on the wifi fringe
[06:34] <rhin0> always reliable with usb-creator-gtk - generally on 32  bit ubuntu 10.04 cheap laptop
[06:34] <plouffe> sacarlson, these entries are all for eth1
[06:34] <gome> looking for usb-creator-gtk for windows xp
[06:34] <rhin0> its not a windows package
[06:35] <rhin0> its a linux package
[06:35]  * rhin0 sighs
[06:35] <rhin0> you need a windows iso usb writer
[06:35] <terminhell> just other wifi devices....smartphones, laptops that arent authenticated to your particular AP. Your wifi card can detect these devices, but normally wont display or interact with them
[06:35] <sacarlson> plouffe: eth1 is wired?   but it also has a wifi access point on it?
[06:35] <rhin0> maybe there is a copy of the package for xp - don't know I don't run windows
[06:35] <Ludlow> I launched startx and then it killed itself :(
[06:35] <plouffe> sacarlson, but shouldn't these entries have been deleted, and why are there no MAC addresses associated
[06:35] <rhin0> once you're across you're across
[06:35] <terminhell> *aside from aircrack
[06:35] <gome> ah yeah i thought that's what you were telling me it was, sorry, yeah I need a windows iso usb writer
[06:35] <sacarlson> plouffe: no they will delete after a time out
[06:35] <terminhell> Ludlow: dont use emo DM's
[06:35] <plouffe> sacarlson, wifi adapter is wlan0
[06:35] <rhin0> can't even remember the name
[06:36] <Ludlow> terminhell: what is EMO?
[06:36] <rhin0> sometimes it's simpler just to cut a cd or dvd -- usb can be more problematic
[06:36] <rhin0> because it has to mount it to write to it
[06:36] <sacarlson> plouffe: well I take it your location has a wifi on that lan?
[06:36] <WaffleGod> http://imgur.com/fMmA3
[06:36] <gome> gotcha. yeah don't have any discs handy tonight at least
[06:36] <WaffleGod> Did it at 1x speed
[06:36] <plouffe> sacarlson, yes
[06:36] <WaffleGod> debating wether I should just use it
[06:36] <rhin0> and there can be filing system issues - or residual stuff you can't get rid of on the usb drive - google - "how to completely blank a usb"
[06:37] <plouffe> sacarlson, timeout? there is only 2 computers connected now. and during the day it's at most 4
[06:37] <sacarlson> plouffe:  if dhcpd is running on the ubuntu box you can look at the dhcp logs and see what mac was used when they were activ
[06:37] <Ludlow> terminhell: what is emos DM's>
[06:37] <terminhell> usb's do have a finite amount of writes. They will fail eventually just like any other drive
[06:37] <plouffe> sacarlson, do you know the location of the dhcp logs?
[06:37] <sacarlson> plouffe: yes the setting of the dhcp timeout when the licence expires for the ip
[06:38] <WaffleGod> Anyone know how to tell what part of the disk the error is, and if using it will fuck my install
[06:38] <gome> gotcha, i'll look into that
[06:38] <zykotick9> Ludlow: it was a joke.  EMO is a music genre/subculture.
[06:38] <terminhell> zykotick9: thanks, i didnt want to explain that
[06:38] <Ludlow> do you know what my kde is crashing and the killing itself?
[06:38] <sacarlson> plouffe: I'm not sure where your dhcp is running, if your a normal house it would be running in your adsl router but you can disable that one and run a dhcp on your ubuntu to detect what they are
[06:39] <terminhell> does kde rely on dbus?
[06:39] <WaffleGod> Anyone know how to tell what part of the disk the error is, and if using it will fuck my install
[06:39] <terminhell> WaffleGod: if you have a bad disk, the problem will get worse. buy a new drive
[06:40] <WaffleGod> terminhell laptop
[06:40] <sacarlson> plouffe: anther solution is you could write a small script to record arp -n each X minits over a day or more to capture the mac address at diferent times
[06:40] <WaffleGod> thats not really an option
[06:40] <terminhell> why not?
[06:40] <terminhell> you can change laptop hdd's
[06:40] <WaffleGod> terminhell The error was on a cd, that i was burning to install ubuntu with
[06:40] <WaffleGod> by disk i meant cd
[06:40] <terminhell> oh
[06:41] <plouffe> sacarlson, ok I will look into that. But right now you are saying there are no dhcpd logs on my computer?
[06:41] <terminhell> doesnt it come with a 'scan media for error's option?
[06:41] <sacarlson> plouffe: there is no way for me to know,  as I assume you didn't install dhcpd
[06:41] <styles> Hey guys I'm trying to use gparted and partition my drive so I can have it run Ext4 ... but I installed Ubuntu via the windows app and it stored it on the same installation as the windows installation and it's NTFS ... is it just me or will gparted not allow you to resize a disc while in
[06:42] <styles> use*
[06:42] <terminhell> plouffe: your video card driver may not be installed or not supported
[06:42] <terminhell> plouffe: sorry wrong person
[06:42] <plouffe> ok
[06:42] <terminhell> Ludlow: your vid card driver may not be installed/configured properly
[06:43] <WaffleGod> terminhell i scanned it
[06:43] <terminhell> styles: no
[06:43] <WaffleGod> http://imgur.com/fMmA3
[06:43] <WaffleGod> theres my error
[06:43] <Ludlow> terminhell:  COuld you it be because its running in a VM?
[06:43] <WaffleGod> can i use this ubuntu install disk
[06:43] <terminhell> Ludlow: probably
[06:43] <styles> no I can't terminhell ? or no it's just me
[06:43] <sacarlson> plouffe: oh another method is you can login to your adsl box and see the log there, each of those boxes are different so I can't help any more with that
[06:43] <terminhell> styles: best way would be to just reinstall with a larger size
[06:43] <Ludlow> terminhell: do you know the command for xconfig?
[06:43] <plouffe> sacarlson, yes I was just trying that
[06:44] <terminhell> Ludlow: X --configure
[06:44] <Ludlow> thanks
[06:44] <sunil_> g
[06:44] <WaffleGod> http://imgur.com/fMmA3
[06:44] <plouffe> sacarlson, thanks for your help, I will try what you said
[06:44] <WaffleGod> can i use this ubuntu install disk
[06:46] <terminhell> WaffleGod: have you tried other disc? that one could just be scrached or faulty
[06:47] <WaffleGod> terminhell I dont think I have another CD-RW anywhere
[06:47] <WaffleGod> just a ton of CD-R's
[06:47] <terminhell> WaffleGod: use them instead?
[06:48] <terminhell> also, where did you get the iso?
[06:48] <macele> Anybody else have an obnoxious bright yellow screen when they're rebooting after installing the proprietary amd drivers?
[06:49] <terminhell> i wrather enjoy its yellowness...how dare you call it obnoxious
[06:49] <terminhell> no
[06:49] <macele> god it's so bad... burns my retinas
[06:50] <macele> everything else seems to work fine, but when I reboot I get that screen for line 15-20 seconds. I have to hide my eyes
[06:50] <WaffleGod> terminhell got the iso from the official site, and the CD-R's all have stuff on them
[06:51] <nbubuntu> hi , anyone know which channel to discuss android apps dev ?
[06:51] <styles> I just stuck a blank disc into my drive (not paying attention it's not a DVD it was  CD). Ubuntu now claims it's in use (it's wrong). To further the annoyance it says the device /dev/sr0 is in use.. when I go to umount it (ie: umount /dev/sr0) the device /dev/sr0 isn't found :-/
[06:52] <terminhell> mount it to /dev/null as root?
[06:53] <terminhell> nbubuntu: nope
[06:53] <pksadiq`> !alis | nbubuntu
[06:53] <macele> nbubuntu: #android-dev maybe?
[06:53] <terminhell> WaffleGod: i can think of some other work arounds that wont be easy, or even practical....
[06:54] <nbubuntu> macele : oh.. thanks
[06:54] <apt-getter> hello world
[06:54] <terminhell> 0,o
[06:54] <terminhell> your first chat?
[06:55] <porsche> pretty much
[06:55] <WaffleGod> terminhell do you think it would work anyway?
[06:55] <bobo37773> apt-getter: hello this is the world
[06:55] <apt-getter> lol
[06:55] <terminhell> it involves norton ghost or the equivalint
[06:55] <apt-getter> does world know of a place to get some help for a re-convert like myself?
[06:55] <WaffleGod> Was in a dif irc channel earlier, they said install wubi, delete my windows partition, then expand my linux into that space
[06:56] <WaffleGod> terminhell would it work^
[06:56] <bobo37773> WaffleGod: ouch. why wubi?
[06:57] <styles> I installed via wubi recently
[06:57] <styles> TERRRRRIBLE idea
[06:57] <terminhell> sure, if you can manage to setup an LVM partition with 2 primaries within that, ghost your iso to one, and figure out how to then boot the iso from that ghosted partition, then run the install to install to the second partition within the LVM
[06:58] <bobo37773> styles: I have never heard anyone say wubi was a good thing. ever
[06:58] <styles> Why even offer it
[06:58] <Guest50291> Hello
[06:58] <WaffleGod> terminhell ya, um no
[06:58] <terminhell> i used it once......once
[06:58] <WaffleGod> I have no clue how to do that
[06:58] <styles> It's like, hey let me give a person that's a murder a gun for FUN :D
[06:58] <styles> WEEE
[06:58] <styles> gparted
[06:59] <WaffleGod> styles if I use gparted can I delete my windows partition and expand my linux partition
[06:59] <styles> What I'm doing -> Grab live cd -> run gparted (if not instaslled apt-get it) -> re-align drive (giving more space to an unpartitioned space).
[06:59] <terminhell> or just buy more dvd's tomorrow :p
[06:59] <styles> God Ubuntu I hate you right now
[06:59] <rhin0> why
[06:59] <apt-getter> aww
[06:59] <rhin0> state your problem
[06:59] <Guest50291> I am unable to edit the /etc/fstab file, I have got 2 ntfs partitions and want to mount them automatically. Can someone tell me how? I can get the UUID from sudo blkid but dont know which lines to apply in /etc/fstab!
[06:59] <styles> it swears a device is in use that ubuntu doesn't even see to umount
[06:59] <styles> FANNNNTASTIC
[07:00] <damo22> styles: you must have a shell open on that dir
[07:00] <styles> :( I wish
[07:00] <WaffleGod> terminhell but then im going for a 4 hour coding session
[07:00] <WaffleGod> with WINDOWS
[07:00]  * WaffleGod twitches
[07:01] <styles> Depends what your coding :D
[07:01] <apt-getter> lol
[07:01] <styles> WinAPI things, it's great :D
[07:01] <styles> (Obvious reasons should be obvious :D)
[07:01] <terminhell> WaffleGod: g/l is all i can say
[07:01] <pksadiq`> styles: try unmounting the CD drive by sudo eject -T
[07:02] <WaffleGod> Ill jsut wait till tomorrow and see if i can scrounge a usb from somewhere or something
[07:02] <apt-getter> anyone have issues with dual monitors and nVidia cards, keeping the dual-screen setup after reboot?
[07:02] <rhin0> ugh - developing on windows
[07:03] <Guest50291> I am unable to edit the /etc/fstab file, I have got 2 ntfs partitions and want to mount them automatically. Can someone tell me how? I can get the UUID from sudo blkid but dont know which lines to apply in /etc/fstab!
[07:03] <rhin0> apt-getter its twinview -- you enable each monitor individually
[07:03] <rhin0> you should save configuration into xorg.conf
[07:03] <apt-getter> I have done that, saved as default and then reboot, but it goes back to single screen, then i have to go back in and set it up again....
[07:03] <rhin0> what version of ubuntu
[07:04] <rhin0> maybe register query on ubuntu forums
[07:04] <Guest50291> 11.04 rhin0
[07:04] <styles> yeah did that pksadiq` worked
[07:04] <styles> thanks
[07:04] <rhin0> I think that has happened sometimes to me
[07:04] <apt-getter> actually, I am running Deb Squeeze now, but still same problem, I figure its the same platform must be a similar issue/fix
[07:04] <rhin0> I use 10.04 absolutely no problems with anythign
[07:04] <apt-getter> I had the same issue with 11.04\
[07:04] <bobo37773> rhin0: 10.04 was the best ubuntu version ever in my opinion.
[07:05] <apt-getter> I agree with ya bobo
[07:05] <rhin0> i'm stuck on it - had problems with every ubuntu since .. and I want to use gnome 2 not 3 - unity I don't like at all
[07:05] <rhin0> 10.04 is probably the last ubuntu I will use
[07:05] <Guest50291> someone help me better?
[07:05] <rhin0> .... ntfsd = windows?
[07:06] <rhin0> you want to mount a windows drive
[07:06] <rhin0> i thought they were auto mounted on a partitioned system
[07:06] <apt-getter> they are
[07:06] <rhin0> why are you playing around with fstab then if they are already mounted
[07:06] <apt-getter> mis-communication...I didn't ask that question
[07:06] <apt-getter> I was just confirming your thought...lol
[07:06] <safa> how to install this, "warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: cups-devel (CUPS devel- Common Unix Printing System development files)"
[07:07] <_josh> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my desktop, the install wizard won't detect my second hard drive though, can anyone help?
[07:07] <bobo37773> safa: Either find a repo for it or compile it from source
[07:08] <_josh> the select drive dialog in "install ubuntu alongside them" doesn't have the other drive as a selection
[07:08] <safa> bobo37773: is it not possible to install with apt-get?
[07:08] <apt-getter> _josh, is the drive visible in the bios?
[07:08] <pksadiq> safa: try installing libcups2-dev
[07:09] <_josh> apt-getter, not sure, but if i try to manually partition, it shows up.  i really wanted to use the auto partitioner though
[07:09] <FredBert> hi
[07:09] <apt-getter> hmmm
[07:09] <bobo37773> safa: if it is in the repos it should have come up. That is why you get that error. You may have to look at your sources to make sure you have the right ones enabled'
[07:09] <wahid_> Hi everybody
[07:09] <FredBert> hey everyone
[07:09] <FredBert> i was told to come here
[07:09] <FredBert> what is this place?
[07:10] <bobo37773> _josh: Sounds like its time to learn how to manually partition
[07:10] <apt-getter> _josh, so, when you're in the partmanager you can or cannot see the hdd?
[07:10] <rhin0> its support for ubuntu - the main channel
[07:10] <bobo37773> FredBert: This is an irc chat room
[07:10] <_josh> apt-getter, in the partition manager, i can see it, just not in the wizard
[07:10] <_josh> i want to resize the partitions on the second drive, but i don't want it to delete existing data
[07:10] <rhin0> FredBert: ask questions - get solutions - people here to help
[07:10] <wahid_> I have a question, How can i connect to socks5 server with user and pass authunticatio?
[07:10] <safa> bobo37773: that is done, but now next error, "warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: libusb (libusb - USB library)
[07:10] <safa> warning: This installer cannot install 'libusb' for your distro/OS and/or version."
[07:10] <apt-getter> you're not confusing the wizard with the lvm are you?
[07:11] <wahid_> Test procychains an some application!
[07:11] <_josh> nono
[07:11] <apt-getter> ok
[07:11] <rhin0> _josh:  resizing - you get to keep your data - if there is enough space on the new partition you specify - it crunches down the amount of free space you have
[07:11] <bobo37773> safa: installer? some kind of script of something?
[07:11] <apt-getter> just checking
[07:11] <wahid_> But that's could not connect!
[07:11] <_josh> okay
[07:11] <apt-getter> I think bobo is right, you might have to do this manually
[07:11] <geirha> safa: The install libusb-dev  (apt-cache search 'usb.*-dev')
[07:11] <safa> bobo37773: yes, I am installing printer, following this link "http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html"
[07:11] <_josh> alright, i'll try it then i guess
[07:11] <_josh> thanks
[07:12] <pksadiq> safa: try installing libusb, and libusb-dev. Each package would ba havins such a name.
[07:12] <bobo37773> safa: Maybe try installing your dependencies first with apt. Then rerun script
[07:12] <apt-getter> good luck _josh
[07:12] <rhin0> _josh - it squeezes down the amount of free space you have
[07:13] <_josh> hopefully i don't lose anything
[07:13] <_josh> which drive do i install the bootloader onto?
[07:13] <_josh> does it matter?
[07:13] <terminhell> sda
[07:13] <pksadiq> safa: also, if you don't know the exact name of the package try sudo apt-get install libusb<TAB><TAB> to get the list, or what ever package you need
[07:14] <terminhell> or apt-cache search
[07:14] <_josh> it has options for /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, as well as /dev/sda, do I choose /dev/sda?
[07:15] <terminhell> yes
[07:15] <terminhell> just sda
[07:15] <Name141> Hello, to trigger my KVM switch I'm having to use Ctrl + Alt + F1 then using the hotlink keys (scroll lock + scroll lock) then when returning to the linux machine Ctrl + Alt + F7 .  Is there a way to make scroll lock function like it would in the console so I don't have to keep doing that? (as seen here http://askubuntu.com/questions/67769/using-numlock-for-trendnet-kvm-switch-no-longer-works
[07:15] <safa> bobo37773: pksadiq i tried now cups-image <with TAB>, but no success.. now asking for "warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: cups-image (CUPS image - CUPS image development files)
[07:15] <safa> warning: This installer cannot install 'cups-image' for your distro/OS and/or version.
[07:15] <safa> "
[07:15] <Name141> )
[07:16] <demogorgon_> a
[07:16] <pksadiq> safa: try libcupsimage<TAB><TAB>  ;)
[07:16] <safa> pksadiq: bhai. I did too.
[07:16] <safa> did that too*
[07:17] <pksadiq> safa: the exact name is libcupsimage2-dev  install that, you have to press TAB twice
[07:17] <safa> pksadiq: yes. installing  libcupsimage2-dev
[07:17] <wahid_> Who can help me?
[07:18] <rhin0> ask away wahid_ -- maybe somebody can - just ask
[07:18] <rhin0> your question
[07:18] <apt-getter> is there a way to edit the xorg.conf file from the cli? nano or something?
[07:19] <pass> ciao
[07:19] <wahid_> rhin0, I ask my question but anybody do not askme!
[07:19] <pass> !list
[07:19] <rhin0> you use sudo nano /etc/xorg.conf
[07:19] <rhin0> what is your question wahid_
[07:19] <wahid_> rhin0, How can i connect to socks5 server with user and pass authunticatio?
[07:19] <apt-getter> thanks, I'll try that
[07:19] <wahid_> rhin0, Test proxychains an some application!
[07:19] <wahid_> rhin0, But that's could not connect!
[07:20] <rhin0> out of my depth - socket server?  -- keep asking someone will know
[07:20] <rhin0> maybe worng password
[07:20] <apt-getter> ok well that might be the problem,  xorg.conf does not exist, when I run: nano /etc/xorg.conf it starts a new file
[07:21] <wahid_> rhin0, No thais true!
[07:21] <rhin0> you have to generate it -- it isn't there by default
[07:21] <rhin0> any more apt-getter
[07:21] <terminhell> thats not the full path to xorg
[07:21] <terminhell> its /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[07:21] <rhin0> ok
[07:21] <apt-getter> ahh
[07:21] <apt-getter> you guys are so helpful!
[07:21] <pass> ciao
[07:22] <safa> Salam wahid bhai. you checked here? http://linuxpakistan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=33312
[07:22] <terminhell> dont be afraid to ls before you nano
[07:22] <pass> !list
[07:22] <apt-getter> ya...
[07:22] <apt-getter> lol
[07:22] <apt-getter> thats how I confirmed it was not there
[07:22] <amoffat> hi.  anyone know why lines printed to a pty end with cr+lf, and not just lf?  i thought windows did the cr+lf, not *nix
[07:22] <apt-getter> and it's not in the x11 file either
[07:23] <wahid_> rhin0, I need Other app to work correctly on the ubuntu!
[07:24] <Krisx> I'm trying to ssh my server, I had some problems with it so I reinstalled ubuntu and now I'm getting this: http://pastebin.com/q8nsJf7t I can't seem to find the known_hosts file.
[07:24] <Ben64> Krisx: just manually edit the file
[07:24] <geirha> amoffat: It's whatever application that is writing to the pty that is responsible for those CRs
[07:25] <Krisx> I tried, its empty, the conflicting line doesn't even exist it seems
[07:25] <amoffat> geirha, interesting.  i'm seeing them from /bin/ls.  i guess ls is writing them...
[07:26] <sacarlson> Krisx: I would think you could just delete the known_hosts file and the message will go away
[07:26] <geirha> amoffat: It shouldn't. Perhaps your filenames end with \r?
[07:26] <Ben64> Krisx: cat ~/.ssh/known_hosts | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[07:26] <geirha> amoffat: How are you seeing these CRLF line endings btw?
[07:27] <superdave321> Does anybody have a recommendation for a backup application?
[07:27] <prashant_123456> which is the best download manager for ubuntu 11.10
[07:27] <Ben64> !best | prashant_123456
[07:28] <amoffat> geirha, i've execv'd /bin/ls from a python program, after forking with a pty.  but my reads on the pt file descriptor are showing \r\n all over my output from ls
[07:29] <urfr332gO> superdave321, I use clonzilla for full clones, but grsync for home.
[07:29] <geirha> amoffat: What if you exec /bin/echo foo  the same way?
[07:29] <superdave321> urfr332gO: Sweet. Thanks
[07:29] <apt-getter> anyone know why konquerer won't connect to the internet but chromium will?
[07:30] <apt-getter> same machine
[07:30] <urfr332gO> superdave321, no problem grsync is jus a gui for rsync
[07:30] <sacarlson> apt-getter: proxy settings?
[07:30] <terminhell> apt-getter: does it have a proxy enabled>
[07:30] <apt-getter> nope...
[07:30] <apt-getter> tried to set to auto just in case but that didn't fix it either
[07:30] <lyptusi> hi im after a mouse that the manufacturer has certified for linux such as logitech mk200
[07:30] <terminhell> dont use konqurer?
[07:31] <apt-getter> lol
[07:31] <apt-getter> that was my solution too
[07:31] <ozzloy> sometimes i accidentally hit ctl-z in emacs, which suspends it, then i alt+tab back to it and i can't see any changes i make after that.  how do i fix that/find out what's happening so i can fix it?
[07:31] <terminhell> KISS
[07:31] <apt-getter> exactly
[07:31] <apt-getter> couldn't get xChat to work but KVirc does
[07:31] <apt-getter> I'm so cofuzed there too
[07:31] <amoffat> geirha, hmm..i think it's a mis-set option on my pty.  thanks for your help..
[07:32] <terminhell> i dont like the pretentious nameing conventions of kde
[07:32] <pksadiq> ozzloy: after C-z, you should do fg command to bring it tor forground
[07:32] <apt-getter> fair enough
[07:32] <terminhell> k-pod
[07:32] <ozzloy> pksadiq, i didn't start it from a terminal
[07:32] <terminhell> *shutters*
[07:32] <apt-getter> I like the feel of kde better than gnome though
[07:32] <Jordan_U> !ot | terminhell
[07:32] <enum> test
[07:32] <terminhell> 0,o
[07:32] <NetRunnerBlack> does anyone know of a good anonymous emailer for ubuntu?
[07:33] <Jordan_U> enum: In the future, please use #test.
[07:33] <pksadiq> ozzloy: sorry, I don't use GUI emacs
[07:33] <NetRunnerBlack> I tried searching but I just wound up on the asshole side of the internet.
[07:33] <rabbi11> How to find the restore path of a file in the trash folder ?
[07:33] <ozzloy> pksadiq, thanks anyways
[07:33] <ozzloy> actually it's really late, i'm going to sleep
[07:34] <pksadiq> ozzloy: btw ask #emacs
[07:34] <rabbi11> When i say "Restore File" it saves to some directory, i need to know the path of that directory
[07:34] <geirha> rabbi11: Find and read the equivalent .trashinfo file in ~/.local/share/Trash/info
[07:34] <Saber-> Solution for mediatomb + mythtv not following symlinks unless you're logged in...  Move the music to their own home directories
[07:35] <ozzloy> pksadiq, i'm guessing they'll say "ask #ubuntu"
[07:35] <pksadiq> ozzloy: I don't think its related to ubuntu, but only emacs
[07:36] <Jordan_U> rabbi11: ~/.local/share/Trash/info/filename.trashinfo
[07:36] <rabbi11> geirha: i infact, reinstalled ubuntu, but din't delete the previous one, now i can't find it. but i find few files in trash, and tried to restore, but want to know the path, may be byluck i find my files there :)
[07:41] <safa> HI, i am not able to install my hp p1006 laserjet on my linux, here is some out put, http://paste.ubuntu.com/849634/ , I was following this howto, http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
[07:41] <Karmaon> what can vim do that sublime text 2 can't do?
[07:41] <rabbi11> geirha: can't find trash folder there
[07:42] <urfr332gO> safa, did you check if it may be in the data base in printers already?
[07:44] <safa> yes i checked, I is listed in list of hp printers, I selected that, but no success .
[07:44] <sun> hello
[07:44] <urfr332gO> safa, ah did you choose the cups setup?
[07:44] <theadmin> safa: Is hplip really installed? Check with "sudo apt-get install hplip"
[07:44] <theadmin> Karmaon: vim can do everything :P
[07:44] <Guest75293> please help me :)
[07:45] <Guest75293> i have form whose work on ajax
[07:45] <rhin0> ajax = programming
[07:45] <bobo37773> Guest75293: What is the problem?
[07:46] <bobo37773> Karmaon: can you edit multiple lines on the fly with command mode scripting like in vim?
[07:46] <safa> theadmin: sudo apt-get install hplip installed some stuff. Next please?
[07:47] <Guest75293> after filling form user send data to server where this data checking, problem is it form can send many times after filling this
[07:47] <theadmin> safa: Should basically work now with the standard printing setup, might need a reboot though
[07:47] <Guest75293> no programing, easy script )))
[07:47] <safa> theadmin: rebooting.. i will be back to you.
[07:47] <rabbi11> I did reinstall ubuntu, but din't delete the old one, or formatted the disk. how can i get the old data
[07:47] <Guest75293> how i can reject send form many times
[07:48] <urfr332gO> rabbi11, should be in the home panel if the partition is still there.
[07:48] <LigH> Mornings.
[07:48] <theadmin> morning LigH
[07:48] <betz1> Hi! I have a problem with my nvidia card. I had 10.04 running with 2.6.32 kernel i think. I upgraded kernel to 3.0.0-15-server. I had xbmc-standalone running on this box and all worked. when i try modprobe nvidia i get message that module nvidia is not found. What should i do?
[07:49] <theadmin> ...I just tried to tab-complete "morning" :/
[07:49] <LigH> :D
[07:50] <theadmin> betz1: The module might be renamed (iirc it's "nvidia-current" now), but then again if you're using an unofficial kernel, some modules might fail to work with it
[07:50] <apt-getter> betz, I am also getting the same error with my nvidia card
[07:50] <Ben64> betz1: 10.04 doesn't have a 3.0 kernel
[07:51] <bobo37773> betz1: rebuild nvidia
[07:51] <LigH> Recently I tested a few additional arts and desktop themes, amogn others also some from Edubuntu. Since then, Ubuntu starts with a gray-on-gray console with the title "Edubuntu 11.10", which I don't like. I tried to uninstall all packages starting with "edubuntu*", but it persists. How do I set it back?
[07:52] <betz1> Ben64: i installed it with apt-get install linux-image-3.0.0-15-server
[07:52] <rabbi11> urfr332gO: can't find :(
[07:52] <apt-getter> LigH, you want to change the splash screen?
[07:52] <rabbi11> fdisk -l also results nothing
[07:53] <urfr332gO> rabbi11, you can use the disk utility or gparted as well to look at the HD, it may not be there.
[07:53] <betz1> theadmin: nvidia-current is already the newest version
[07:54] <LigH> apt-getter: It is the console "below" the splash. I once removed the "quiet splash" boot options to check why my PC often hangs while initializing devices but couldn't find any interesting warnings.
[07:54] <theadmin> betz1: Well, can you modprobe that?
[07:54] <betz1> nope, not nvidia, nor nvidia-current
[07:54] <betz1> not found
[07:54] <rabbi11> urfr332gO: i was lookin into it, i got 250 GB total, 12 GB ext3, and another 238 GB extended.... :( that's it ?
[07:54] <safa> theadmin: I restarted, and tried to print again.. no result for that HP p1006 printer.
[07:54] <apt-getter> check out this link: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-settings-for-the-bootloader-and-splash-screen-in-ubuntu.html
[07:55] <Ben64> betz1: you should go back to 2.6 kernel
[07:55] <apt-getter> this might have an option for adjusting the screen you want to change
[07:55] <urfr332gO> rabbi11, not knowing exactlt what you did I can't say more than the hd shows what is there. You have just one HD correct?
[07:55] <urfr332gO> exactly
[07:55] <theadmin> LigH: There's this bootsplash package, uh... "gfxboot-theme-ubuntu" I think, you need to install that.
[07:56] <betz1> ok, i wanted to have basic lirc working with upgrading to that kernel. Where it also works now.
[07:56] <rabbi11> how to force mount /dev/sd2 ?
[07:56] <LigH> theadmin: I believe there are several boot themes installed, just Synaptic did not list those with "edu" in the middle of a package name. / apt-getter: I believe "Manage bootloader themes" is the button I will click and see...
[07:56] <urfr332gO> rabbi11, you can imagebin the Hd looked at with gparted if you like.
[07:56] <Ben64> betz1: 3.0 kernel is backport, and isn't supported like the standard one is
[07:57] <rabbi11> urfr332gO: how could i do that?
[07:57] <rabbi11> got to load gparted ?
[07:57] <theadmin> rabbi11: "/dev/sd2" is not a device node udev would ever create
[07:57] <urfr332gO> rabbi11, take a screen shot with the prtsc key or app then put that image at a website I will give you so we can look at it.
[07:58] <betz1> Ben64: ok, installing latest 2.6
[07:58] <betz1> 2.6.38-13-server
[07:58] <urfr332gO> rabbi11, put the image here and post the url. http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[07:58] <LigH> I'll better use grub-custmizer; startup-manager is not really grub2 compatible...
[07:59] <LigH> Ah, no ... it is not grub, it is afterwards.
[07:59] <bobo37773> betz1: cant you just reinstall nvidia
[07:59] <urfr332gO> rabbi11, yeah in the terminal sudo apt-get install gparted
[08:00] <LigH> So maybe a bash config detail.
[08:03] <betz1> bobo37773: how do i do that?
[08:03] <bobo37773> betz1: just install it like you normally would I mean. That doesn't wotk
[08:05] <Guest75293> what? nobody don't know how make this form?
[08:06] <theadmin> Guest75293: This is an Ubuntu channel, nothing to do with AJAX or whatever. Try the channel actually related to your problem in some way.
[08:07] <LigH> theadmin: I'll try a forum post, to continue with my daily work. :)
[08:07] <LigH> \o
[08:07] <theadmin> LigH: k, that might work better :D
[08:09] <bobo37773> Guest75293: what are you talking about?
[08:11] <ljsoftnet> is there a hard disk activity, code for conky?
[08:11] <Hubbbe> Hey, i did just buy two new laptops (asus x53S) and i cant get the graphic card (geforce 610M) to work.
[08:11] <terminhell> ljsoftnet: not sure, none that ive ever seen
[08:11] <Hubbbe> Is there any fix for this problem as i have googled it for a day with out finding a good solution?
[08:11] <bobo37773> ljsoftnet: like the cpu or just how much has been used?
[08:12] <ljsoftnet> bobo37773 like the cpu
[08:12] <x2x> Hi...
[08:12] <x2x> I have a question...
[08:12] <terminhell> go on
[08:12] <safa> Is it like that, hp1006 laser printer will never work on Linux?
[08:12] <bobo37773> ljsoftnet: oh input output. You may have to write your own not sure
[08:12] <x2x> I am planning to setup 2 NFS server which in active-active mode where this NFS will connect to a LUN for the storage
[08:12] <terminhell> the conky website has a full list of supported arguments
[08:13] <x2x> how should I setup it?
[08:13] <x2x> anyone any idea?
[08:13] <terminhell> vertically
[08:14] <x2x> vertically?
[08:15] <georgieee> Hi, I have a card reader which ubuntu recognizes but it doesnt work. lsusb: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 058f:6362 Alcor Micro Corp. Flash Card Reader/Writer - I have no idea how to get it working. Can anyone help?
[08:15] <terminhell> im not sure what a LUN is
[08:15] <ljsoftnet> bobo37773 ok thanks terminhell
[08:16] <Guest41762> Hi all.. quick question . . how do i chown for joomla running on localhost LAMP
[08:16] <terminhell> sudo chown username /path/files
[08:17] <Hubbbe> Any one know if there is any way to get the nvidia gf 610M to work on x53s laptop?
[08:17] <x2x> terminhell, will connect to a external storage
[08:17] <x2x> pool
[08:17] <terminhell> Hubbbe: check the linux HCL sites
[08:17] <bobo37773> oh no ljsoftnet left it was diskio variable
[08:17] <terminhell> x2x: is their going to be other os clients accessing this?
[08:17] <Guest41762> thx terminhell
[08:18] <sacarlson> georgieee: seems that alcor has had isues for some time http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1136196&page=2
[08:18] <ljsoftnet> bobo37773 dude im here, il check diskio
[08:18] <x2x> same os client will access to these 2 NFS
[08:18] <sacarlson> georgieee: maybe if you go back before ubuntu 9 it might still work?
[08:18] <bobo37773> ljsoftnet: oh I was spelling you wrong. right on
[08:19] <x2x> There are 4 server will be installed KVM which KVM's image stored on NFS server
[08:19] <terminhell> x2x: other than avahi, and appropriate client sides to the server side, i dont know what else you'll need
[08:19] <x2x> There are 2 NFS servers will be setup as Active-Active which both share a external storage
[08:19] <x2x> okay.
[08:20] <x2x> Thank you terminhell
[08:20] <georgieee> sacarioson: ^^ yeah maybe. But I don't wanna change the system. I researched the web and saw the same bug on launchpad and still no solution yet... thought I give it a try here.
[08:20] <terminhell> x2x: good luck
[08:20] <georgieee> scarioson: thank you though
[08:21] <bobo37773> ljsoftnet: I see a graph but no bar graph like cpu. bummer. I would really like to incorporate this into my conky too
[08:21] <ljsoftnet> bobo37773 im good with graph
[08:21] <terminhell> you have to parse the diskio to bar graph
[08:21] <safa_> my screen support more resolution but in display setting maximum option is showing,,= 1024X768, how to add more.
[08:21] <bobo37773> terminhell: how?
[08:21] <bobo37773> terminhell: let me look again
[08:22] <terminhell> i forget the syntax, but it should be able to do it like the cpu graph
[08:23] <terminhell> unless it checks IO like tops or w/e conky shows currently active proc's
[08:23] <bobo37773> terminhell: yeah there is a cpubar no diskiobar. hmm
[08:24] <terminhell> try it?
[08:24] <Hubbbe> Terminhell, i did not find anything on http://linuxhcl.com/ abut x53s or 610M :(
[08:24] <bobo37773> yep no dice
[08:24] <sahil_> no one is on #ubuntu +1
[08:24] <sahil_> :(
[08:24] <bobo37773> sahil_: what is that?
[08:24] <sahil_> chanel for precise..?
[08:24] <terminhell> ubuntu-1?
[08:24] <Corey> Then remain patient.
[08:24] <bobo37773> sahil_: oh beta channel gotcha
[08:25] <sahil_> hey dis mite be related...i resently broke my unity desktop
[08:25] <terminhell> Hubbbe: you could try to find a more specific chipset for your machine and widdle it down better
[08:26] <barlets> Is there a wikipedia channel on here?
[08:27] <sacarlson> barlets: there is a wiki on just about everything but the problem is you need to know the subject
[08:28] <barlets> sacarlson, A channel for wiki editors.
[08:29] <K-4U> Anybody know what to do when i can´t access the internet from CLI, but when i can from a browser?
[08:30] <bobo37773> ljsoftnet: Im out. Take care. read conky man page. everything you need is there
[08:30] <sahil_> bobo37773, can u help me debuging this problem? http://pastebin.com/1kjzfJCB
[08:30] <Hubbbe> terminhell: specific chipset? how when and where? ;)
[08:30] <Hubbbe> all i have found is ppl doing workarounds with Ironhide or bumblebee to get the graphics card working but seams to make up a lot more problems then it fix.
[08:30] <ljsoftnet> bobo37773 no problem
[08:30] <K-4U> Bumblebee i read?
[08:30] <bobo37773> sahil_: try another window manager
[08:30] <bobo37773> later
[08:31] <terminhell> Hubbbe: lscpi | grep vga
[08:32] <saruji> how can I create a link to docky for a program that is executes from command line,...there is not icon in the drop down menu...noob here, thank you
[08:32] <terminhell> rigt click...add launcher
[08:33] <Hubbbe> this is one of the "fixes" for the x53s gf 610M http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1791081
[08:33] <terminhell> link launcher path to your needs
[08:33] <Guest75293> sdfgd
[08:33] <Hubbbe> lscpi | grep vga
[08:33] <Hubbbe> No command 'lscpi' found, did you mean:
[08:34] <terminhell> lspci
[08:34] <sacarlson> K-4U I assume your browser on the same system is working due to proxy?
[08:34] <K-4U> sacarlson: No, i´m not using a proxy
[08:34] <sacarlson> K-4U: what browser?
[08:34] <sacarlson> K-4U: some browser have auto proxy
[08:35] <K-4U> sacarlson midori
[08:35] <playit> hey quick question
[08:35] <Hubbbe> if i copy in all iscpi in here dont i get band for spam? :)
[08:36] <Hubbbe> hubbe@Hubbe:~$ lspci
[08:36] <Hubbbe> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
[08:36] <playit> i read about some fortune 500 companies using linux for certain things
[08:36] <terminhell> lscpi | greb vga
[08:36] <aramisw> of course they does
[08:36] <terminhell> it should be a very short list...
[08:37] <playit> for those who keep track more than myself.. What specific things are they doing with it .. Is it mostly servers?
[08:37] <terminhell> workstations
[08:37] <aramisw> yes
[08:37] <terminhell> servers
[08:37] <playit> I read that dell / sony / some other big name companies
[08:37] <terminhell> super computers
[08:37] <Jordan_U> !ot | playit
[08:37] <playit> well heres my support related question that goes with that
[08:37] <Hubbbe> ye it is lscpi | greb vga is not working :(
[08:38] <Hubbbe> and i am on ubuntu unity
[08:38] <terminhell> grep
[08:38] <aramisw> i don't like unity
[08:38] <terminhell> not greb
[08:38] <Hubbbe> lscpi | grep vga did not work
[08:38] <playit> Im looking for the most powerful operating system I can use and while I think Ubuntu / linux as a whole is better than windows ( FOR SURE ) im having trouble because im trying to start / run a small business and it seems the open source apps may hold me back.
[08:39] <terminhell> Hubbbe: how did it not work?
[08:39] <gordon1234> terminhell, finger trouble, or has it been a long day :-)
[08:39] <Hubbbe> hubbe@Hubbe:~$ lscpi | grep vga
[08:39] <Hubbbe> No command 'lscpi' found, did you mean:
[08:39] <Hubbbe>  Command 'lscpu' from package 'util-linux' (main)
[08:39] <Hubbbe>  Command 'lscp' from package 'nilfs-tools' (universe)
[08:39] <Hubbbe>  Command 'lspci' from package 'pciutils' (main)
[08:39] <FloodBot1> Hubbbe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:39] <Hubbbe> lscpi: command not found
[08:39] <playit> for instance open office / gnucash and their comparisons which I won't mention
[08:39] <terminhell> 0,o
[08:39] <K-4U> lol :P
[08:40] <aramisw> ......
[08:40] <terminhell> install lspci....blows my mind that its not installed already
[08:40] <Hubbbe> i cant
[08:40] <aramisw> omg
[08:40] <Hubbbe> thats the problem o.O
[08:40] <playit> are there any people who run their own business here and would you honestly recommend me use GNUcash / openoffice for it..
[08:40] <llutz> Hubbbe: LSPCI  lowercase, not lscpi
[08:40] <terminhell> install pciutils then
[08:41] <Hubbbe> i did that
[08:41] <aramisw> i never use those
[08:41] <llutz> Hubbbe: you didn't [09:39:23] <Hubbbe> lscpi: command not found
[08:41] <Ben64> playit: whats wrong with them?
[08:41] <Hubbbe> oh
[08:41] <playit> Its not that anything is wrong with them..
[08:42] <terminhell> llutz: thanks for catching my fat fingers
[08:42] <sacarlson> K-4U: when you say you don't have cli access to internet, does that mean that wget a page fails?  maybe just port 80 works on your isp?
[08:42] <K-4U> sacarlson: can´t ping either..
[08:42] <sacarlson> K-4U: ping is not port 80 and most windows systems mask ping
[08:43] <Hubbbe> hubbe@Hubbe:~$ lspci|grep vga
[08:43] <Hubbbe> hubbe@Hubbe:~$
[08:43] <Hubbbe> did not do anyting now
[08:43] <llutz> Hubbbe: lspci|grep -i vga
[08:43] <playit> Im thinking maybe Ubuntu has a place for me just as Windows  just as mac?
[08:43] <K-4U> sacarlson: If i can´t ping google...
[08:43] <Hubbbe> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[08:43] <Hubbbe> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1058 (rev a1)
[08:43] <sacarlson> K-4U: again ping is not port 80,  what about wget ?
[08:43] <aramisw> actually i prefer linux than mac
[08:44] <playit> problem is getting them all together.. and playing nice and all
[08:44] <gordon1234> lspci | grep VGA (VGA upper case)
[08:44] <sacarlson> K-4U: wget will use port 80
[08:44] <K-4U> sacarlson: I can´t install packages, doesn´t that include port 80?
[08:44] <gordon1234> oops ... to late :-)
[08:44] <terminhell> maybe Hubbbe has to blacklist his intel?
[08:45] <Hubbbe> hubbe@Hubbe:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[08:45] <Hubbbe> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[08:45] <Hubbbe> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1058 (rev a1)
[08:45] <K-4U> sacarlson: Wait, what? :| wget on google works... mind=fucked
[08:45] <playit> well I am a do it myself person but im also drawn to having 1 slick interface.. Kind of like Gnome 3.2 because I know that I couldn't customize my desktop as well on my own if you know what i mean
[08:45] <carl_> lu
[08:45] <terminhell> idk much about graphic cards.
[08:45] <pnorman_win> K-4U: What's your ISP?
[08:45] <god-zotac> guess i could share this info if anyone has a e-350/450 apu and trying to get hardware acceleration working with xv in precise 12.04.. don't expect it to work for a while. xv playback is broken with fglrx in versions 11.11, 11.12, and 12.1. however gl playback is fine with hardware acceleration in fglrx version 11.12, but not in 12.1 or 11.11.  i messed with it all night until i figured out the optimal settings with the latest xorg abi
[08:45] <K-4U> pnorman_win: No idea.. i´m at work now.. i´m from holland
[08:45] <playit> i'll take this to offtopic.. If anyone wants to talk about it there
[08:46] <sacarlson> K-4U: my work also filtered only let out and in on port 80
[08:46] <pnorman_win> K-4U: Some brain-dead ISPs block HTTP traffic based on user-agent
[08:46] <K-4U> sacarlson: But, i could install packages yesterday.. and at my other ubuntu box...
[08:46] <oCean> K-4U: control your language here, please
[08:47] <sacarlson> pnorman_win: K-4U: at my work it was part secuity and part stoping people from playing chess and other games
[08:47] <aramisw> yes
[08:47] <aramisw> thats strange job
[08:48] <Hubbbe> ah blacklist intel like here?
[08:48] <Hubbbe> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-common/+bug/582829
[08:48] <Hubbbe> :(
[08:48] <sacarlson> K-4U: you can setup your home system to have ssh open on port 80 then you can connect to that and access the world from work
[08:49] <sacarlson> K-4U: that's what we did to watch porn from work
[08:49] <gordon1234> Hubbbe, you have 2 graphics adapters. One on boards and one card. Is that correct? Have you set the BIOS for the new card? Might be a dumb question.
[08:49] <oCean> sacarlson: try to keep the channel professional, thanks
[08:49] <god-zotac> ssh -X  ftw
[08:50] <K-4U> sacarlson: no.. it´s weird, i couldn´t install packages a couple of minutes ago, now i can..
[08:50] <sacarlson> oCean: just trying to demonstrate that anything can be worked around
[08:50] <oCean> sacarlson: using examples not acceptable in this channel. Please don't
[08:50] <terminhell> nice, vlc supports blueray now
[08:50] <terminhell> !ot | terminhell
[08:51] <Hubbbe> i dont know but i read some where that it might have 2 graphic cards, can i turn one of in bios? and do that help
[08:51] <sacarlson> K-4U: well packages can still be installed on port 80 so take out the repository that don't us port 80
[08:51] <Hubbbe> its a x53s laptop its not like i have built it myself ;)
[08:51] <terminhell> Hubbbe: just check in the bios
[08:51] <Hubbbe> ok thx will do
[08:52] <terminhell> Hubbbe: see if you have an option of enabling/disabling one or the other
[08:52] <gordon1234> Hubbbe, I think you have to set the defaul graphics card in the BIOS to use the AGP card, or whatever. Not sure though
[08:52] <safa> Hi, 10.11,  here is link that shows how to change resolution with xrandr, " http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html " In Last there is a file that is not present in 10.11 Where to save the last step, please need a guidance
[08:52] <Hubbbe> laters and thx again
[08:52] <terminhell> g/l
[08:52] <Hubbbe> will try t now
[08:53] <ryanyeah> goddamn it. trying to increase the resolution of a ubuntu box im accessing via vnc and nothing i can find on google works. not even sure if creating the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf made any difference
[08:53] <Hubbbe> ah wait have 2 of the same laptop here can try on the other one :D
[08:53] <oCean> ryanyeah: no swearing here
[08:54] <Ben64> ryanyeah: are you connecting to :0 or a screen made for vnc?
[08:54] <theadmin> ryanyeah: I'd check the VNC server/client configs as well
[08:54] <terminhell> ryanyeah: some monitor's just cant be changed?
[08:54] <barlets> By the way, I hear the circumcision article is guarded by circumfetishists preventing edits to make it more neutral and accurate.
[08:55] <terminhell> uhhhh what?
[08:55] <oCean> barlets: wrong channel
[08:56] <abuanoname2> Tes hallo
[08:56] <ryanyeah> terminhell: well i don't have a physical monitor attached to it. but i go into the ubuntu resolution settings and the max is only 800x600. i can change settings to 150% on tightvnc but that just zooms in, so it does increase resolution but it makes it blurry
[08:56] <abuanoname2> Anybody
[08:56] <zth_> abuanoname2, hello
[08:56] <terminhell> ryanyeah: is compression on, or scailing?
[08:57] <Ben64> ryanyeah: you'd have to set resolution on the vncserver
[08:57] <playit> quick question
[08:57] <abuanoname2> Hai am need make or used standar gnome on ubntu 11.10
[08:57] <playit> which virtualbox guest runs the best on linux?
[08:57] <abuanoname2> Who i can.. Am not love unity
[08:57] <playit> mac or windows?
[08:57] <theadmin> abuanoname2: You can't use gnome2 anymore, it's dead
[08:58] <ryanyeah> terminhell: not that i'm aware of. Ben64: i'm using the default "Remote desktop" included in ubuntu and it doesn't seem to have many options
[08:58] <oCean> !nounity | abuanoname2
[08:58] <theadmin> playit: Mac hardly works in Virtualbox at all (last I tested, Lion failed on me at least), Windows NT and up works fine, any Linux distro with kernel 2.6+ work fine too
[08:58] <abuanoname2> Am need install compiz 3d cobe on ububtu 11.10
[08:58] <playit> thanks
[09:00] <Hubbbe> Terminhell: i don't have mush to pick in the BIOS this it is "Intel Virtualization Technology" that i should turn to disable?
[09:00] <theadmin> playit: Also, the Windows Developer Preview currently fails to boot in Virtualbox, sadly.
[09:00] <Hubbbe> is it* :P
[09:00] <terminhell> Hubbbe: doubt it
[09:01] <tonesfrommars> Greetings: can anyone advise me on a dual-boot (Maverick-XP) grub2 issue? I have 2 separate drives, defreagged the XP drive (where grub is) and it's gone haywire.
[09:01] <theadmin> abuanoname2: Install "compizconfig-settings-manager" and enable the Cube plugin.
[09:01] <theadmin> tonesfrommars: "gone haywire" doesn't make much sense -- does it take a chainsaw and try to kill you? What is the exact behaviour?
[09:02] <erik32533> hi
[09:02] <abuanoname2> Theadmin that make my ubuntu error...
[09:02] <erik32533> all i have question on java
[09:02] <playit> anyone run windows in a constant virtualbox?
[09:02] <terminhell> god no
[09:02] <theadmin> playit: "constant"?
[09:02] <tonesfrommars> theadmin: sorry, it sent me to grub rescue prompt.
[09:02] <theadmin> tonesfrommars: Ah, hm.
[09:02] <sacarlson> tonesfrommars: did you install windows xp after ubuntu?  other option run windows xp in virtualbox
[09:02] <terminhell> tonesfrommars: reinstall grub
[09:02] <theadmin> !recovergrub | tonesfrommars
[09:02] <erik32533> does anyone know how to get yur java setting
[09:03] <erik32533> on ubuntu
[09:03] <theadmin> !restoregrub | tonesfrommars
[09:03] <tonesfrommars> couldn't load normal or ntfscomp modules
[09:03] <abuanoname2> Blank.. Instruksi
[09:03] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | tonesfrommars
[09:03] <Hubbbe> i only have 5 tabs, main, advanced, boot, security, save & exit... on advanced there is only 9 options.
[09:03] <Hubbbe> post logo type, start easy flash, play post sound, internal pointing device, wake on lid open, intel virtualization technology, legacy usb support, SATA configuration
[09:03] <erik32533> hello?
[09:04] <terminhell> erik32533: install jre6
[09:04] <Hubbbe> dont look like anyting to turn off one of the graphic cards
[09:04] <oCean> terminhell: have you read his question?
[09:04] <tonesfrommars> thanks, I have spent hours with the restoregrub docs, will have a look at the script.
[09:04] <erik32533> i was told it aint secure
[09:04] <gordon1234> Hubbe, under Main is there an option for integrated devices or on-board devices?
[09:05] <abuanoname2> Change boot loader how to...
[09:05] <erik32533> ice tea java
[09:05] <erik32533> plugin
[09:05] <terminhell> what kind of settings erik32533
[09:05] <abuanoname2> Am need put picture on boot loader
[09:05] <Hubbbe> all i can config under main is date and time
[09:05] <erik32533> in yahoo spades
[09:05] <erik32533> i can type in the louge
[09:05] <playit> is it possible to run linux in a mac guest efficiently?
[09:06] <erik32533> when i join a game new windows  pops up i can play the game\
[09:06] <Ben64> playit: try it and find out
[09:06] <terminhell> Hubbbe: Not sure then, you may just have to wait longer for support to come around for your chipset
[09:06] <erik32533> but i cant chat or type
[09:06] <playit> Ben64: lend me the money first
[09:06] <sahil_> my unity is broken...this is what i get wen i do "unity --reset"http://pastebin.com/1kjzfJCB
[09:06] <Ben64> playit: no
[09:06] <playit> Promise i'll give it back......
[09:06] <gordon1234> Hubbe, how old is the PC?
[09:07] <abuanoname2> Anybody can help for some solution
[09:07] <Hubbbe> so my best bet is to return the 2 x53s's & buy somting that have suport?
[09:07] <erik32533> on jre6
[09:07] <pangolin> sahil_: please do not post questions concerning 12.04 in this channel
[09:07] <Lantizia> Can someone name a good x86/x86_64 tablet to put Ubuntu on to?  And don't say the HCL as it doesn't list tablets.
[09:07] <Jordan_U> playit: That sentence doesn't make sense. The guest OS is the OS within the virtual machine. The host OS is the OS running the Virtualization softare.
[09:07] <erik32533> i got knocked out of room
[09:07] <erik32533> several times
[09:07] <Hubbbe> 1day
[09:07] <playit> running linux on mac osx host
[09:08] <theadmin> playit: Virtualbox does that just fine
[09:08] <Hubbbe> gordon1234 i did buy 2 x53s laptops yesterday
[09:08] <gordon1234> Hubbbe, eek! Not sure what to do then
[09:08] <playit> but not the other way around.. That might be what I look to do then
[09:08] <Jordan_U> playit: Yes, that can be done fairly efficiently with Virtualbox. Hardware accellerated 3D won't be great though.
[09:08] <erik32533> too bad the dos emu are crap
[09:08] <fidel> playit: running osx on non-apple hw is so far not legal - > not supported
[09:08] <Hubbbe> :(
[09:08] <nicofs> Is there an application that will flash on my screen if there is any sound? I need to run my system muted/silent and want to be notified of sound optically...
[09:08] <fidel> according to the weirdos licenses
[09:09] <terminhell> intel cpu's now
[09:09] <terminhell> as far as im concerned its fair game now
[09:09] <terminhell> but im sure their eula fixes that
[09:09] <fidel> for sure its possible - but not allowed
[09:09] <erik32533> jre6 is not supported
[09:09] <Jordan_U> nicofs: By default, if any sound is played while the mixer is muted the volume icon in the top of the screen will turn red, if that helps any.
[09:09] <terminhell> erik32533: do you have flash installed as well?
[09:10] <erik32533> yes
[09:10] <terminhell> 32 or 64bit/
[09:10] <pksadiq> /quit]
[09:10] <erik32533> 32 bit
[09:10] <terminhell> no idea
[09:10] <erik32533> im on p4 hyper threading machinbe
[09:11] <nicofs> Jordan_U, I know about that - but that's a bit too minimalistic... I'd prefer my whole screen to turn red for a sec or something similar...
[09:11] <terminhell> it could just be yahoo
[09:11] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: When you're done running boot info script please post a link to the RESULTS.txt so we can see it to try to diagnose the exact cause of the problem.
[09:11] <erik32533> jre6 i cud type
[09:11] <erik32533> but got knocxked out of room
[09:11] <erik32533> several times
[09:12] <nicofs> I had hoped there would be something because that's something deaf people could use...
[09:12] <erik32533> firefox needs to make up mind on version number
[09:12] <erik32533> 9 then 10 now 11
[09:13] <somsip> erik32533: yeah - tricky sequence that
[09:13] <erik32533> all within a year
[09:13] <Jordan_U> nicofs: I don't think that it's something that is going to be a standard option (if it is, it would probably be for accessability). If anyone would know how to hack something together to do it though, I would expect it would be someone in #pulseaudio.
[09:13] <oCean> erik32533: it's just a new release cycle, there will be plenty more
[09:13] <georgieee> I am using  grsync but why does file sync take so long? is there no faster way?
[09:13] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: thanks, here it is: http://pastebin.com/7UUQmSqi
[09:13] <erik32533> if chome wud make interface different it be good
[09:14] <erik32533> chrome
[09:14] <terminhell> erik32533: try another browser, see if you get the same errors
[09:14] <nicofs> Jordan_U, I'll try my luck there - but if accessability wise such a thing does not exist, maybe it should be implemented...
[09:14] <oCean> erik32533: this is not the channel to rant about browsers. Have you verified java is working (for other aplications?)
[09:14] <erik32533> ya already did
[09:14] <erik32533> 'firefox
[09:14] <erik32533> 10
[09:14] <gordon1234> georgieee, do you mean rsync?
[09:14] <erik32533> wud not get there
[09:15] <oCean> erik32533: Have you verified java is working for other aplications?
[09:15] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: Do you remember what error message you got from "insmod normal" at the grub rescue shell?
[09:15] <georgieee> gordon1234, well grsync is the gui for rsync so yes.
[09:15] <erik32533> how do i verify
[09:15] <erik32533> yahoo says it verified
[09:16] <erik32533> if not i cud not playt games
[09:16] <tonesfrommars> yes, any insmod commands returned "ntfscomp module not loaded" or something to that effect
[09:16] <oCean> erik32533: there are test pages, such as http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
[09:16] <tonesfrommars> However, I have made some headway since then, now I can actually get a grub prompt.
[09:17] <tonesfrommars> I have been booting from a "super grub2 disk"
[09:17] <erik32533> yea its verified
[09:19] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: If you use the "Detect any GRUB2 installation" option from Super GRUB2 Disk does grub load properly?
[09:19] <gordon1234> georgieee, if you are doing an rsync -av (standard backup option), it does take a while as it copies all the file permissions etc. Even slower if you are doing it between different physical drives. Still faster than anything else I have found
[09:19] <gordon1234> georgieee, it will be much faster the second time as only the changes are copied!
[09:20] <tonesfrommars> and trying to grub-install from the terminal, but I'm finding it difficult since the "main" drive, the only one bios sees as bootable, is not the one I run ubuntu from.
[09:20] <MeriD> Hello. How can I exclude files with a specific prefix with wildcards?
[09:20] <georgieee> gordon1234, yeah I know. still it is very annoying that it takes longer than copy/paste.
[09:20] <erik32533> is opera web browser around or is it dead
[09:20] <cowslammer> i just instlled 11.10.  firefox has no button bar.  is there some key I have toapply to get it back?
[09:20] <theadmin> erik32533: It's very much alive lol
[09:20] <theadmin> cowslammer: The menu is at the top bar, like it usually is with Unity
[09:21] <erik32533> not as good as firefox im sure
[09:21] <georgieee> gordon1234, I am syncing 8GBSD-Card <> Hard Drive - estimated time: 90minutes
[09:21] <theadmin> erik32533: There's no "good" or "bad", it's a matter of taste, I like Chrome much more than Firefox personally.
[09:22] <erik32533> wish chrome wud allow u to change interface
[09:22] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: If it does, then that likely means that the core.img embedded after the mbr does not match the one in /boot/grub/. If grub still fails to load, then you've probably run run into a grub bug.
[09:22] <cowslammer> theadmin i hate to argue but there is no menu
[09:22] <gordon1234> georgieee, copy/paste won't copy the file permissions properly and will give you issues if it is for back/restore purposes. Fine for just copying stuff though and I am sure there is an rsync option that would do this.
[09:22] <theadmin> cowslammer: Oh, uh, I mean, the top panel, at the *very* top of the screen (not top of window, top of screen)
[09:23] <theadmin> cowslammer: Hover your mouse over there and you'll see the usual menu appear
[09:23] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: Yes, it appears to load the original config, with my splash image and menu options.
[09:23] <tonesfrommars> With one difference, there are many duplicate entries for the linux OS
[09:23] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: OK. That means that *properly* running grub-install should fix the problem.
[09:24] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: Can you pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc"?
[09:25] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: One other piece of relevant info to bounce off you: I first apt-get installed grub, but then later realized I needed grub-pc, I think that explains the legacy grub on the one drive.
[09:25] <theadmin> erik32533: "change interface"? It has tons of themes, you can drag buttons around freely, extensions add nifty bits to the interface too.
[09:25] <tonesfrommars> yes, I'll run that command.
[09:27] <quietone> can anyone help me get usb speakers working? 11.10 on older desktop
[09:28] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/NEF8kC2A
[09:31] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: OK. I think that grub-install might not be running properly on upgrades. I recommend running "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy". It will ask you what drives to install grub to, use space bar to select devices and the enter key to continue. You should select both drives (that way booting won't fail if your BIOS decides to boot from a different drive) but you should *not* select any partitions.
[09:32] <cowslammer> can someone tell me how to get sun java?
[09:32] <Jordan_U> !java | cowslammer
[09:32] <quietone> I have been searching/trying suggestions but still silent.
[09:33] <sahil_> how to recover config files...i shed those with ubuntu tweak janitor and now desktop is broken
[09:33] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: I'm on it. (fingers crossed)
[09:33] <quietone> The speakers worked just fine in 10.04 but not at all in 11.10
[09:33] <sahil_> classic gnome working fine....rest not working
[09:37] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: installation finished w/out errors, should I lose the legacy config files?
[09:38] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: Yes, just to avoid future confusion.
[09:39] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: wonderful, any indicators to look at, or shall I try reboot now?
[09:40] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: Try reboot.
[09:40] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: thanks a million for your help, I've been banging away at this for hours. Much appreciated.
[09:41] <Pikkachu> jrewhy is noeiric-backport called that way? is it in this sense http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backporting ?
[09:44] <Pikkachu> why is oneiric-backport named that way when description says unsupported updates? I can't get it
[09:46] <Night_fury> :)
[09:46] <theadmin> Pikkachu: Because it has package versions from Precise.
[09:47] <Night_fury> Little help anyone?
[09:48] <Pikkachu> theadmin: precise packages backported to oneiric? why not just put it there in main repos 'security' and 'update'?
[09:48] <theadmin> Pikkachu: Not so sure really, Ubuntu people have some weird release system (not apply major updates to existing releases, just make users get the newer release)
[09:49] <theadmin> Pikkachu: Makes sense in terms of stability, but for some packages it doesn't
[09:51] <TA5K> This happens with open source's success ... http://osxdaily.com/2010/05/17/disable-growl-notifications/ :)
[09:51] <JadedJacob> offtopic but how do i work out what voltage i need for my 3.5" sata drive enclosure
[09:52] <Pikkachu> theadmin: releases have a low lifecycle so I don't think major changes locking is a big issue, you'd have to wait for 6 months at max
[09:52] <Pikkachu> theadmin: for what package it would be more stange to deliver bigger changes?
[09:54] <pablo_> Good morning
[09:56] <theadmin> Pikkachu: Well, for instance, not giving me VLC 2.0 when it includes a *ton* of fixes is just strange imo
[09:57] <crizzy> theadmin: there is ppa for vlc 2.0...
[09:57] <theadmin> Pikkachu: But, for instance, getting in a huge upgrade to, for instance, Unity or Gnome into the older release might be something people won't like
[09:57] <crizzy> that's what ppa's are for
[09:57] <theadmin> crizzy: I know, I'm just trying to explain the Ubuntu's release philosophy to Pikkachu
[09:57] <theadmin> crizzy: I don't honestly care, not an Ubuntu user myself :D
[09:58] <zach> help
[09:59] <Pikkachu> theadmin: well you'll be given those *ton* of fixes in six months I suppose :D
[09:59] <theadmin> Pikkachu: Yep :P Actually less by now, like what... 2 months left
[10:00] <Pikkachu> theadmin: yeah, if it will eevr be included in next release heh
[10:00] <Pikkachu> theadmin: someone told me once non-LTSes are betas
[10:01] <aBound> Pikkachu, They do kinda feel like it.
[10:01] <theadmin> Pikkachu: Well... that's not exactly true, but yeah they're less stable
[10:01] <no_gravity> Hello! Do I see it correctly, that the package "vim-conque" is part of Ubuntu 12 but not of Ubuntu 10?
[10:04] <nyuszika7h> !info vim-conque maverick
[10:05] <nyuszika7h> !info vim-conque precise
[10:06] <nyuszika7h> no_gravity: Yes, you see it correctly.
[10:06] <Pikkachu> aBound: I'm feeling like that right now in pidgin, spell check not working...not showing in tray or whatever...exiting when I click close (when in tray -- as set in config -- it should hide not exit)...:'-(
[10:06] <no_gravity> nyuszika7h: thanks
[10:06] <Pikkachu> theadmin: annoyingly unstable
[10:06] <nyuszika7h> You're welcome. By the way, if you don't want to spam the channel, you can always /msg ubuntu !info package release
[10:07] <nyuszika7h> s/ubuntu/ubottu/
[10:07] <|newbie|> hi alll
[10:07] <nyuszika7h> Hi
[10:07] <|newbie|> how re u?
[10:07] <DangerousDave> Hi All!
[10:08] <aBound> Most people tend to recommend LTS releases due to the long-term support. Fixes are more likely to fixed more often so it seems.
[10:09] <Pikkachu> aBound: it looks like the other releases are steps towards a freeze which they call LTS
[10:09] <Pikkachu> aBound: so they don't matter that much to experiment with stuff in the other releases, but they wonder to be stable in LTS I suppose
[10:09] <aBound> Pikkachu, Kinda like what Fedora does with it's Enterprise product.
[10:10] <hypeBoy> hi, how can i install divx player for websites? or is there any alternative i can use?
[10:10] <Pikkachu> aBound: I'm not sure if I like this :(
[10:11] <aBound> Pikkachu, At least you can expect a more stable release at best. Before moving onto the next upgrade.
[10:12] <Pikkachu> aBound: but you keep stuck on old software
[10:13] <aBound> Usually, latest releases try to keep an update to date package repository. Yet, there are bound to be a few unstable packages in each release.
[10:13] <Pikkachu> aBound: you're already stuck in regular releases, much more with LTS :( I imagine they do a lot of backporting for LTS
[10:14] <aBound> Pikkachu, Put it this way would you rather have stability or the latest packages?
[10:14] <crizzy> PPA's are for updating newer softies you need
[10:14] <aBound> The saying goes: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". :)
[10:14] <hypeBoy> Pikkachu: how can i install divx web player. i wanna play divx videos on websites
[10:15] <aBound> Like VIM for example I doubt I'd need a new release when one comes out as it might only include minor features. Yet, if a vulnerability exist in the program itself an update is definitely necessary.
[10:17] <pawa> LUSERS
[10:17] <Pikkachu> aBound: that's why I imagine a lot of backporting...because time is often a bug itself... for example libreoffice releases new stuff with big improvements you feel annoyed not having access to, and lots of bug fixing...usptream tend to not support old versions and encourange updating... while in ubuntu these old versions are still there in the LTSes to be maintained... by Canonical (that's why I imagine a lot of backporting for the most important bugs)
[10:17] <Pikkachu> hypeBoy: I have no idea
[10:18] <crizzy> sigh
[10:18] <crizzy> again: PPA's are exactly for that - updating certain packages outside the distro updates
[10:19] <aBound> Pikkachu, I agree with the whole bugs aspect but with newer features it's only necessary if it benefits you in some way otherwise upgrading may not be necessary. But I know some people like to stay up to date and I won't disregard that.
[10:20] <Pikkachu> crizzy: ok everybody has listened to you, so will you create a reilable ppa for all packages forever? btw I don't trust your ppas
[10:20] <crizzy> stop whining
[10:21] <aBound> I don't see how he's whining.
[10:21] <Pikkachu> crizzy: I mean, that's not that simple. Each app you want a new version needs to have a ppa availabe somewhere, that's not automatic, and the ppa must be reliable. For example #pidgin does not support ppas other than theirs
[10:21] <aBound> He does have a valid point it's just using Ubuntu or any Linux distribution tends to work different from other OS's.
[10:22] <fireball_> I cannot see the xchat system tray icon on my ubuntu system pls help
[10:23] <Spanky> Anybody know how to mount Samba share in fstab?
[10:23] <totesmuhgoats> i am waiting till april's release for an update to bitlbee
[10:23] <totesmuhgoats> i haven't been able to connect to hotmail in ages
[10:23] <Pikkachu> fireball_: 11.10 + unity? I can't see my pidgin tray icon there either :(
[10:24] <totesmuhgoats> it was funny because a friend of mine asked me why i idn't add him on msn yet, and i told him that i wouldn't till april
[10:24] <totesmuhgoats> he thought i was kidding
[10:24] <totesmuhgoats> i gave him no more explanation than that
[10:25] <aBound> Does Pidgin use an icon in the try for 11.10?
[10:25] <aBound> Usually, it's kept in Unity's sidebar I'd figure.
[10:25] <Guest7787> hello
[10:26] <Guest7787> I cannot see the xchat system tray icon on my taskbar
[10:26] <ankit> hh
[10:26] <Pikkachu> aBound: I see the hidden scrollbar so I suppose it's using gtk2, it doesn't know unity exists, I think it adds a tray icon to gnome panel which is not running so...
[10:27] <aBound> Ahh, I forgot you were using an older version.
[10:27] <Guest7787> I cannot see the xchat system tray icon on my taskbar pls help
[10:27] <Guest7787> I use natty 32bit
[10:28] <Pikkachu> aBound: it's shown in the sidebar regardless but you have to remember to minimize buddy list not close it, it's annoying (because in gnome 2, closing it with tray icon enabled would close buddy list not whole app)
[10:28] <Pikkachu> aBound: an older version of what?
[10:28] <aBound> Pikkachu, I'd figure you were using an older version of Ubuntu.
[10:29] <mustafaerhann> hello
[10:29] <Pikkachu> aBound: no it's 11.10 + Unity, but unity does not have tray support as in gnome 2, it seems
[10:29] <aBound> Guest7787, Doesn't Natty use Unity and it's on the sidebar?
[10:29] <liuxu_> hello
[10:29] <aBound> Pikkachu, I noticed yet as long as I can see it on my sidebar.
[10:29] <Guest7787> I use gnome 2 with no effect aBound
[10:30] <mustafaerhann> i have skystar 2 dvb card plugged in pci slot. i installed ME tv but me Tv shows no dvb device found msg.
[10:31] <Pikkachu> Guest7787: maybe it's a problem with xchat, no?
[10:31] <Guest7787> I dont know Pikkachu
[10:31] <RobinJ1995> Hi. I've got a bit of a problem here... When I enter my password in LightDM and press enter the screen just flickers and goed straight back to LightDM
[10:32] <Pikkachu> Guest7787: #xchat
[10:32] <Guest7787> ok
[10:32] <neopsyche> hi
[10:32] <neopsyche> having issue with permissions
[10:32] <Guest7787> thanks Pikkachu
[10:32] <neopsyche> cache wont clear on firefox
[10:32] <aBound> Guest7787, I'm not familiar with Gnome 2 I'd also assume that Natty uses Unity as it's default and Gnome 2 fallback.
[10:33] <Pikkachu> aBound: unity in natty runs on gnome 2
[10:33] <RobinJ1995> I think I might have removed a wron package or something >.< Yesterday I had a dependency hell while trying to install Unity 5.4. In installed the version from the normal repo's again but I might have forgotten to install a few packages. When I run startx manually from tty1 I just get a black background and a white cursor.
[10:34] <RobinJ1995> Could anyone help me with my somewhat extremely frustrating problem..?
[10:34] <aBound> Isn't GTK a separate project from Gnome.
[10:35] <aBound> RobinJ1995, We can't help ya if we don't know the problem.
[10:35] <aBound> Blah.
[10:35] <aBound> I'm tripping.
[10:35] <Pikkachu> aBound: afaik GTK is a gui toolkit like Swing, SWT, ATW, Qt etc
[10:36] <Pikkachu> aBound: and gnome is bult on top of it
[10:36] <aBound> RobinJ1995, Unity 5.4 isn't part of the official repository for Ubuntu 11.10 and older.
[10:36] <Spanky> Figured it out....
[10:36] <fisherman> ping
[10:36] <Spanky> But I won't tell....  :-)
[10:37] <RobinJ1995> aBound, i know... i just said i reinstalled the one from the normal repo's (4.x). But i might have forgotten to install some packages again :s
[10:37] <RobinJ1995> is it normal that I can't seem to find a sessions folder anymore in Ubuntu 11.10?
[10:39] <aBound> Not that I know of.
[10:39] <digitalunity> could someone give me a pointer on unpacking  atar file pls?
[10:40] <aBound> You can check for broken dependencies and using: sudo apt-get check
[10:41] <RobinJ1995> ...
[10:41] <RobinJ1995> aBound, they arent broken anymore.... because i installed the older ones again... i just think i forgot to install some vital package which causes lightdm to not being able to launch a unity session
[10:42] <aBound> RobinJ1995, Are you able to install another GUI such as gnome-shell from a terminal?
[10:42] <RobinJ1995> aBound, i can chroot into the system.... but do i have to install a lot of bloat? xD
[10:43] <RobinJ1995> what the...
[10:43] <RobinJ1995> chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[10:43] <RobinJ1995> right... chrooting from a 32-bits distro into a 64-bits environment seems to be a ngo
[10:43] <RobinJ1995> *no-go
[10:43] <[deXter]> Duh. :P
[10:43] <aBound> HA! I'd say just install it from now and you can remove it later. You can delete the excess from using these commands: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[10:43] <[deXter]> You can't chroot from 32 to 64.
[10:44] <RobinJ1995> i know. only i forgot that bodhi linux only has a 32-bit iso
[10:44] <RobinJ1995> >.<
[10:44] <[deXter]> ooh.
[10:44] <RobinJ1995> brb, ill boot into something else
[10:44] <aBound> [deXter], Howdy dex.
[10:44] <[deXter]> Heh.. heya aBound. :)
[10:45] <aBound> Looks like when he installed a testing version of Unity 5.4 all you can expect is problems. But thereafter when he upgraded it could of removed a few packages necessary to use an older version of Unity.
[10:46] <[deXter]> Ouch.
[10:47] <RobinJ1995> ok lets try again
[10:48] <aBound> RobinJ1995, I would say if you were logged into gnome-shell you can check Synaptic.
[10:48] <RobinJ1995> er
[10:48] <RobinJ1995> i  can do the same now with aptitude...
[10:50] <aBound> sudo apt-get install unity? It might check for certain packages.
[10:50] <RobinJ1995> hmm ok
[10:50] <RobinJ1995> think i did that already but lets try
[10:50] <aspirintoo> hi, im trying to compile git source, but it stops at [ make && sudo make install ] showing this {make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.}
[10:50] <RobinJ1995> already the newest version iy says
[10:51] <aBound> Blah!
[10:51] <crazyrohila> hi all
[10:52] <crazyrohila> I am trying a script to show on desktop . how to do that ?
[10:52] <crazyrohila> to show a calendar on desktop *
[10:53] <aspirintoo> any help on how to use make install command?
[10:53] <RobinJ1995> aBound, this is my lightdm log:
[10:53] <RobinJ1995> http://paste.ubuntu.com/849793/
[10:53] <aBound> I understand what you're saying by missing vital packages and what not. But I can't seem to find a list of packages that are necessary for Unity. I doubt the command: unity --replace
[10:53] <aBound> Will fix it.
[10:53] <RobinJ1995> lol xD
[10:54] <RobinJ1995> course not
[10:54] <RobinJ1995> plus im using unity 2d
[10:54] <aBound> From the log it seems it's missing the NV driver module.
[10:54] <RobinJ1995> the only odd thing i can see is that there's not sessions folder... but maybe it isnt supposed to be there anymore in 11.10?
[10:54] <Taneb> Hello
[10:54] <Taneb> My num-pad isn't working
[10:55] <RobinJ1995> aBound, yeah but that shpws up in EVERY xorg lol and the problem only happened today
[10:55] <RobinJ1995> Taneb, turn on numlock
[10:55] <Taneb> Tried it
[10:55] <aBound> Taneb, Do you have something on your keyboard called Num Lk?
[10:55] <Taneb> Num Lock
[10:56] <Taneb> I've tried that
[10:56] <aBound> RobinJ1995, Are you able to boot into any other GUI or window manager besides Unity?
[10:56] <aBound> Num Lk is highlighted in blue if you're using a certain laptop.
[10:56] <memyself> is there anyway easy way to setup a usb adsl modem on ubuntu ?
[10:56] <RobinJ1995> aBound, dunno havent got any :p
[10:57] <RobinJ1995> ill try gluxbox
[10:57] <RobinJ1995> fluxbox
[10:57] <RobinJ1995> or openbox or icewm, whatever
[10:57] <aBound> RobinJ1995, Figures if you can't boot into any other GUI or window manager it might actually be missing an nVidia driver.
[10:57] <RobinJ1995> k
[10:57] <RobinJ1995> in other words, it has probablt installed a newer version of xorg somewhere
[10:58] <RobinJ1995> *probably
[10:58] <RobinJ1995> lets try
[10:58] <RobinJ1995> bye
[11:01] <gregoire> hi
[11:01] <Timecop> can same one help me
[11:01] <gregoire> Does someone could help me with iptables?
[11:03] <oCean> Timecop, gregoire, guys, just ask the question. Find out if someone knows
[11:03] <gregoire> ok
[11:03] <Timecop> Stopping domain name service... bind9 rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused
[11:03] <DarkStar1> do you know how to minimise a full screen window so that I can get hold of the 3 window buttons
[11:03] <aBound> gregoire, They have a Netfilter channel.
[11:03] <Timecop> bind 9
[11:03] <ikonia> Timecop: sounds like it's already stopped
[11:03] <Timecop> ubuntu 11.10
[11:03] <gregoire> ok I go there :)
[11:03] <aBound> gregoire, #netfilter
[11:03] <DarkStar1> in ubuntu 11.10
[11:03] <Timecop> i get that what i try to start it
[11:04] <Timecop> yep DarkStar1
[11:04] <ikonia> Timecop: then why is the error messages stopping
[11:04] <ikonia> Timecop: if you where issuing a start command it would say "error starting" not error "stopping"
[11:04] <RobinJ1995> openbox
[11:04] <RobinJ1995> works
[11:04] <DarkStar1> anyone? the ff downloads window has taken my screen hostage
[11:04] <Parham> Hi everyone. I had Tomcat6 installed on my uBuntu machine. However, last Wednesday I got notified that there are security updates. And after updating, Tomcat6 is really slow and takes up 101% of memory (1 CPU core out of 4). Is there a way to fix this?
[11:05] <RobinJ1995> aBound, but i saw something interesting in lightdm, which confirms my suspicions
[11:05] <gast2root> howto disable fast user switching in top bar?
[11:05] <RobinJ1995> it doesn't have any sessions
[11:05] <Timecop>  * Starting domain name service... bind9                                 [fail]
[11:05] <aBound> RobinJ1995, I seen these two links: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66370/x11-doesnt-start-after-clean-11-10-install-dell-e6500-nvidia-8gb-ram-i386 and http://askubuntu.com/questions/90915/troubleshooting-x-server-ee-failed-to-load-module-nv-module-does-not-exist
[11:05] <ikonia> Timecop: look in the syslog
[11:06] <Timecop> thater one what i try restart it
[11:06] <RobinJ1995> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11669097 :p
[11:06] <RobinJ1995> its not that xorg fails to start abound
[11:06] <RobinJ1995> otherwise i wouldnt even get lightdm
[11:07] <Timecop> ok ikonia
[11:07] <ruhil> DarkStar1: try Alt+f9
[11:07] <RobinJ1995> haha
[11:07] <RobinJ1995> gnome-session is missing xd
[11:08] <aBound> I see what you mean it isn't appearing the sessions area where you can select various GUIs and window managers.
[11:08] <RobinJ1995> yep
[11:08] <aBound> Yet, you're getting a lightdm screen.
[11:08] <RobinJ1995> which means gnome-session is missing
[11:08] <Parham> Hi everyone. I had Tomcat6 installed on my Ubuntu machine. However, last Wednesday I got notified that there are security updates. And after updating, Tomcat6 is really slow and takes up 101% of memory (1 CPU core out of 4). Is there a way to fix this? Installing Tomcat7 didn't fix anything.
[11:08] <RobinJ1995> yeas... because lightdm isnt a sessiob but a display manager
[11:09] <ikonia> Parham: you're going to have to research that update and see what it changed and how it effects your config/system
[11:09] <aspirintoo> does anybody know how to use make install, it doesn't work?
[11:09] <debian2> hello  can anyone help to add a new ip address on my vps via network/interfaces  ?
[11:09] <aBound> RobinJ1995, What happened when you tried the suggestion from that forum?
[11:09] <Parham> ikonia: Thanks for the answer. how may I research an update?
[11:09] <DarkStar1> ruhil: that minimises it out of view. I want to close it
[11:09] <WaffleGod> with a pentagram, some candles, and a creepy hooded robe debian2
[11:10] <RobinJ1995> aBound, i got into a new dependency hell :D
[11:10] <aBound> HA!
[11:10] <ikonia> Parham: a good question,
[11:10] <DarkStar1> nvm
[11:10] <RobinJ1995>  gnome-session : Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu1.1) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu5~ppa1 is to be installed
[11:10] <RobinJ1995> oh come on xd
[11:10] <gast2root> howto disable user switching in unity?
[11:10] <chucknorris> hey
[11:10] <ikonia> RobinJ1995: oh dear, PPA
[11:10] <chucknorris> i got a question
[11:10] <RobinJ1995> ^
[11:10] <RobinJ1995> :p
[11:10] <ruhil> DarkStar1: close means kill the process?? then try alt+f4 :D
[11:10] <debian2> WaffleGod:  lol
[11:10] <RobinJ1995> but why are ppa's worse than normal repo's?
[11:11] <theadmin> RobinJ1995: They're not necessarily worse... They're not supported though
[11:11] <ikonia> RobinJ1995: becauause they can be maintained by anyone with no confideration for package conflicts and compatability (as you are seeing now)
[11:11] <RobinJ1995> theadmin, ... this is an open source community... how does canonical control what they support? :p
[11:11] <RobinJ1995> ikonia, aha, ok :p
[11:11] <ikonia> RobinJ1995: sorry, I'll clarify that for you
[11:12] <RobinJ1995> but isnt that the same with normal repo's? :p
[11:12] <aspirintoo> I've been trying to compile idevicerestore for three days? i downloaded every thing i need but i cant install git sources, any help?
[11:12] <chucknorris> i tried downloading eclipse from the Software Center
[11:12] <ikonia> RobinJ1995: this channel is the official ubuntu channel, and the people who manage the channel have decided the policy is not to support 3rd party repos as they can be maintained by "anyone" and trouble shooting them is a mess
[11:12] <chucknorris> but i get this error "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tomcat6/libservlet2.5-java_6.0.32-5ubuntu1.1_all.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.166 80]"
[11:12] <RobinJ1995> ikonia, troubleshooting is always a mess :p
[11:13] <ikonia> RobinJ1995: no, the repos are massivly tested by a team of people, the PPA's are just put up in what ever state, with whatever testing the PPA owner wants to do
[11:13] <RobinJ1995> chucknorris, apt-get update
[11:13] <RobinJ1995> ikonia, ... everyone can setup a PPA. everyone can setup a debian repo
[11:13] <RobinJ1995> ok so now im stumped...
[11:13] <theadmin> RobinJ1995: Unofficiall repos are just as much unsupported as PPAs, they're the same thing
[11:13] <chucknorris> apt-get update?
[11:13] <RobinJ1995> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:13] <RobinJ1995>  gnome-session : Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu1.1) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu5~ppa1 is to be installed
[11:14] <theadmin> RobinJ1995: ikonia is talking about the official Ubuntu repos you see
[11:14] <RobinJ1995> i've just removed every ppa.... :s
[11:14] <ikonia> RobinJ1995: not everyone can setup an official ubuntu repo - those are the software products that are supported
[11:14] <RobinJ1995> oh well :p
[11:14] <ikonia> RobinJ1995: removing the PPA at this time is probably too late as the conflicting packages will probably already be on your machine
[11:14] <aspirintoo> is there  #terminal or #command-line or something like that in freenode?
[11:15] <LjL> aspirintoo: there is #Bash
[11:15] <RobinJ1995> aspirintoo, #bash?
[11:15] <RobinJ1995> or just ##linux?
[11:15] <oCean> Parham: what is your ubuntu version? Also, have you tried asking in #ubuntu-server? (lots of server specific knowledge there)
[11:15] <RobinJ1995> hooray, :D
[11:15] <RobinJ1995> gnome-session is installed
[11:16] <aBound> RobinJ1995, Open a terminal and type: cat /usr/share/xsessions
[11:16] <aBound> See what it displays.
[11:16] <RobinJ1995> now i just have to remember never to add a 12.04 repo to a 11.10 installation :')
[11:17] <Parham> oCean: Ah, no, I haven't asked on #ubuntu-server. My Ubuntu version is 11.10, my Tomcat version is now 7.0.21.
[11:17] <aBound> RobinJ1995, Oops I meant to type: ls /usr/share/xsessions
[11:17] <RobinJ1995> hehe :p
[11:17] <RobinJ1995> root@ubuntu:/# ls /usr/share/xsessions/
[11:17] <RobinJ1995> gnome.desktop  gnome-shell.desktop  ubuntu-2d.desktop  ubuntu.desktop
[11:17] <RobinJ1995> i know
[11:17] <FloodBot1> RobinJ1995: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:17] <diiiisk> Hello - I am installing 11.10, and I have a laptop with 14gb and 250gb partitions, when I click "install with windows" it'll let me slider only the 14gb, giving me about 4gb to use. When I click "do something else" it won't visually show me the disks - this used to be better in 8.04 I think. I see /dev/sdb, then under that sdb1, 9gb/8gb used, 3.8gb free (this is what it allows me to use) then sdb2 104mb, and then sdb3 240gb, unknown.
[11:18] <diiiisk> I want "look at all the free space everywhere and let me use about half of it for ubuntu without screwing it up" option :p
[11:18] <diiiisk> I can mount all of sdb3 to /, but not scale it
[11:18] <RobinJ1995> diiiisk, report it as a bug ;p
[11:18] <RobinJ1995> bye and thanks
[11:19] <william_> asd ç
[11:21] <RobinJ> NOEEES! it overwrote the modifications I made to unity 2d >.<
[11:22] <aBound> Oh boy.
[11:23] <william_> ubuntu.es
[11:24] <william_> hola
[11:24] <william_> q mas
[11:24] <sacarlson> diiiisk: is there anything important left on the partitions that now exist on sdb?
[11:24] <oCean> !es | william_
[11:24] <william_> hola
[11:24] <william_> hay alguien
[11:25] <sacarlson> diiiisk: if not just delete all the partitions and repartion to scale each as you really want
[11:25] <william_> #ubantu.es
[11:26] <neilbags> hi, can someone help me with a win7 dualboot problem? i just bought an asus eee, cloned the win7 partition to a faster/bigger drive, and installed ubuntu. ubuntu works fine, but if i select win7 from grub i just get a blinking cursor
[11:27] <william_> jpña
[11:27] <william_> hola
[11:27] <aBound> RobinJ, You ever tried to install GDM and see if it shows Unity in it's sessions manager.
[11:27] <william_> q mas
[11:27] <william_> alguien
[11:27] <FloodBot1> william_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:27] <oCean> william_: Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas)
[11:27] <RobinJ> aBound: ? it works again. only my unity 2d modifications are gone :p
[11:27] <RobinJ> but i'm cooking up something nicer :p
[11:27] <william_> #ubantu.es
[11:27] <oCean> william_: no
[11:27] <oCean> william_: Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas)
[11:27] <william_> hi
[11:27] <aBound> RobinJ, Weee...
[11:28] <Timecop> ikonia thanx for help all look like in /etc/bind/named.conf
[11:28] <Timecop> i see if fix it
[11:28] <william_> join #ubantu.es
[11:28] <ikonia> Timecop: that is the config file, yes
[11:28] <oCean> /join #ubuntu-es    <-- william_
[11:29] <Timecop> .conf yep
[11:29] <william_> #ubantu-es
[11:29] <Timecop> i let know if i fix it lol
[11:29] <ikonia> william_: /join #ubuntu-es
[11:30] <william_> hola
[11:30] <william_> q mas
[11:30] <william_> quiero saber
[11:31] <oCean> william_: see PM message
[11:33] <bal> how to install a network pinter ? in which is in window system ?
[11:35] <holms> hello, whereis' the package called "bar". same package as in debian and freebsd..
[11:35] <holms> hello, whereis' the package called "bar". same package as in debian and freebsd..
[11:36] <neilbags> hi, can someone help me with a win7 dualboot problem? i just bought an asus eee, cloned the win7 partition to a faster/bigger drive, and installed ubuntu. ubuntu works fine, but if i select win7 from grub i just get a blinking cursor
[11:37] <spacetime> neilbags: what did you use to clone?
[11:37] <neilbags> spacetime: ntfsclone
[11:38] <mongy> did you clone both win7 partitions?  even the boot partition
[11:38] <neilbags> mongy: no ... i havnt used windows since xp :/ but i have the orig drive connected via usb
[11:39] <neilbags> mongy: does win7 actually have a boot partition?
[11:39] <mongy> neilbags: well, a basic win7 install consists of 1 small boot partition and 1 main partition
[11:40] <neilbags> mongy: i see. can i just clone it to a new partition in some free space? does it need to be primary, or in the same position in the partition table?
[11:40] <neilbags> mongy: and will an update-grub see it and fix things?
[11:40] <mongy> I wouldnt know, I havent used windows in a decade..
[11:41] <neilbags> is this what i am aftter?
[11:41] <neilbags> sdb4                    Primary   EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
[11:41] <neilbags> a 16MB partition?
[11:41] <Legoleader> how can i install the latest graphics driver that i downloaded from nVidia
[11:42] <Ben64> Legoleader: you don't
[11:42] <Ben64> Legoleader: use the Hardware Drivers dialog to install drivers, don't use nvidia.com
[11:42] <mongy> try ##windows.  it does sound like the boot partition tho
[11:42] <Legoleader> can u guide me to where I can find that
[11:42] <Legoleader> Ben64
[11:42] <Ben64> what version ubuntu
[11:42] <Legoleader> latest
[11:42] <Legoleader> 64 bit
[11:42] <Ben64> which would be...?
[11:43] <Legoleader> 11.10 i think
[11:43] <Legoleader> i just installed it yesterday
[11:43] <Ben64> lsb_release -sd will tell you
[11:43] <Legoleader> what's that
[11:43] <crizzy> Legoleader: hit super(win button), type 'additio', you should find 'additional drivers' dialog
[11:44] <crizzy> or 'drivers' or somethingl ike that
[11:44] <Ben64> or do that
[11:44] <crizzy> or top right corner (power button) -> system settings > additional drivers
[11:44] <Legoleader> found it
[11:44] <Legoleader> there are 2 drivers in the list
[11:44] <crizzy> then just click nvidia drivers on
[11:44] <crizzy> reboot
[11:44] <crizzy> what are those two
[11:44] <crizzy> post-release updates?
[11:44] <Legoleader> should i install both of them
[11:45] <Ben64> Legoleader: what are their names
[11:45] <crizzy> are both nvidia's?
[11:46] <spacetime> With radeon, I got both options but only one of them successfully installed. Weird stuff.
[11:46] <Legoleader> (version current) + (post-release updates)
[11:46] <Legoleader> both are nVidia
[11:46] <crizzy> take the version current
[11:46] <crizzy> just to be safe
[11:46] <crizzy> it's pretty recent drivers, anyway
[11:47] <spacetime> i got an issue here.. my monitor won't wake up. I can ssh to the machine though. It's alive and breathing. fglrx issue or something else? help?
[11:47] <spacetime> it went to sleep, now it won't wake up when i press any key on my keyboard
[11:48] <ilpollo> spanish chanel please
[11:49] <theadmin> !es | ilpollo
[11:49] <RaTTuS|BIG> amiga
[11:49] <RaTTuS|BIG> oops ignore that plesase ;-p
[11:50] <b0ot> can you do slip with ubuntu?#
[11:51] <Fudge> hi does flash break using firefox 9.0.1 on lucid, same flas on another install with firefox 8.0 plays clips where as the first doesn't.
[11:52] <Legoleader> is it possible to change the resolution of the log in screen in Ubuntu
[11:52] <zzecool> Legoleader: log in or boot screen ?
[11:52] <Legoleader> log in where i have to type my password
[11:53] <zzecool> it shas to be the same with your unity - gnome or whatever you using resolution
[11:53] <zzecool> it has*
[11:54] <Legoleader> well it's not
[11:54] <Legoleader> the screen now is fine, but when i start the computer, the log in screen has another resolution and refresh rate
[11:55] <Adriannom> hi.  trying to get my hp scanjet 5590 to work, currently no scanners show up in simple scan even though it's on and connected.  it worked out of the box before, but i'm not sure what's different now.  xubuntu 11.10
[11:55] <zzecool> what version of ubuntu are you using
[11:55] <Adriannom> anything i can do to diagnose?
[11:56] <zzecool> Legoleader: what is your vga
[11:56] <Legoleader> how can i check the version
[11:56] <nibbler> hi. just updated to 11.10 and now i dont have an "unlock" button in the printer dialog.... how to fix this?
[11:56] <Legoleader> it's nVidia 430gt
[11:57] <Legoleader> and i installed the driver everything is fine now, except the log in screen resolution
[11:57] <zzecool> ok
[11:57] <Ben64> how often do you see the login screen?
[11:58] <Legoleader> everytime i start my computer...
[11:58] <zzecool> Legoleader: for the ubuntu version type on terminal " lsb_release -a"
[11:58] <Ben64> so like once every month?
[11:58] <zzecool> Ben64: stop that
[11:58] <Legoleader> like 3-4 times a day
[11:58] <Ben64> Legoleader: have you rebooted since installing the nvidia drivers
[11:58] <zzecool> Legoleader: dont naswer him
[11:58] <Ben64> zzecool: you stop that
[11:58] <Legoleader> yes Ben64
[11:59] <mongy> Legoleader: http://askubuntu.com/questions/73804/wrong-login-screen-resolution
[11:59] <zzecool> Ben64: a problem is a problem and a bug is a bug even it doesnt distract you
[11:59] <Ben64> Legoleader: and its still the same? what resolution is it?
[11:59] <Legoleader> zzecool: what's a terminal, I'm not familiar with Ubuntu at all
[11:59] <Legoleader> I just installed it yesterday for the first time
[11:59] <zzecool> Legoleader: terminal is the command mode
[11:59] <Adriannom> i've tried different usb cables but that doesn't work.  google hasn't helped.  anyone?
[11:59] <Legoleader> I see
[11:59] <zzecool> its a small app that gives you bash access
[12:00] <vicki_> hallo
[12:00] <Legoleader> where can i find it
[12:00] <zzecool> Legoleader: it depents on ubuntu version  do you have the unity interface?
[12:00] <Ben64> Legoleader: hit the windows key, type in "terminal" and it should be there
[12:00] <zzecool> Legoleader: do you have the launcher on the left of your monitor?
[12:01] <Legoleader> I have no idea if i have the unity interface
[12:01] <Legoleader> yes
[12:01] <Legoleader> I have a launcher
[12:01] <zzecool> Legoleader: what is happening if you press the "windows" key on your keyboard?
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> Legoleader  this is what unity looks like, is your screen similar? http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/
[12:02] <Legoleader> it opens the "dash home" when i press the "windows" key
[12:02] <zzecool> Legoleader: how do you search for your application  ?  how do you start irc or firefox ?
[12:02] <zzecool> ok nice
[12:02] <zzecool> this is unity
[12:03] <zzecool> you have to be familiar with same names :)
[12:03] <zzecool> and definitions
[12:03] <zzecool> Legoleader: press windows key type terminal
[12:03] <zzecool> Legoleader: and press enter
[12:03] <zzecool> Legoleader: it is going to open the terminal
[12:03] <Legoleader> done
[12:04] <zzecool> Legoleader: ok type lsb_release -a
[12:04] <Legoleader> nomad@ubuntu:~$ lsb_release -a
[12:04] <Legoleader> No LSB modules are available.
[12:04] <Legoleader> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[12:04] <Legoleader> Description:	Ubuntu 11.10
[12:04] <FloodBot1> Legoleader: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:04] <Legoleader> Release:	11.10
[12:04] <Legoleader> Codename:	oneiric
[12:04] <zzecool> dont paste like this here
[12:04] <ikonia> Legoleader: use a pastebin !
[12:04] <ikonia> !pastebin > Legoleader
[12:05] <Ben64> zzecool: in the future, "lsb_release -sd" works better
[12:08] <BWorld> if I have a directory and execute chmod g+s {dir} and have 755 permissions on that directory then the directories created inside suddenly get write permissions but parent directory is rwsr-sr-x :S
[12:08] <BWorld> could somebody explain that.. ?
[12:08] <zzecool> Legoleader: it seems that youa re facing a bug  , that i found a workaround
[12:09] <Legoleader> please do tell :)
[12:09] <zzecool> Legoleader: but i dont think its wise to try  it as you look like a novice user
[12:10] <escott> BWorld, the setgid bit on a directory means that files inside get created with the same group permissions and ignore umask
[12:10] <zzecool> Legoleader: the workaround includes terminal use scripting etc and things can go wrong  easy
[12:10] <Legoleader> I see
[12:10] <zzecool> Legoleader: just keep making updates as usual and hope for a fix
[12:10] <zzecool> :)
[12:10] <BWorld> hm, what about directories escott ?
[12:10] <Legoleader> kk, thanks :)
[12:10] <zzecool> np
[12:10] <zzecool> :)
[12:10] <BWorld> you expect directories created inside inherit the same permissions as the parent directory (rwsr-sr-x)
[12:11] <escott> BWorld, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[12:13] <zzecool> Legoleader: one question are you using dual monitors?
[12:14] <BWorld> thanks escott , when I read the section about "setuid and setgid on directories" I cannot find anything about affecting permissions , it doesn't say anywhere that when inheriting group/user from parent directory that it will add write permissions to the created directory...
[12:14] <BWorld> wich is the case at the moment
[12:15] <BWorld> escott, I mean, creating a directory gives the assigns the correct uid and gid but it 'adds' write permissions for the group wich isn't assigned in the parent directory :S
[12:15] <BWorld> - gives the
[12:16] <Ben64> but you have it suid
[12:16] <BWorld> yes, sticky user and sticky group
[12:16] <BWorld> user has rws permissions, group has r-s permissions and other have r-x permissions
[12:17] <BWorld> user is me, group is www-data
[12:17] <BWorld> www-data should never have write permissions unless explicit set for some subdirectory
[12:17] <escott> BWorld, folders created inside a setgid have to also have setgid set otherwise its not recursive and it breaks with the first subdirectory
[12:17] <Legoleader> zzecool: no, i'm using a crt 19" monitor
[12:17] <Ben64> what are you doing that you need suid on things?
[12:18] <BWorld> setting up my local development environment
[12:18] <zzecool> Legoleader:  ok nothing then
[12:18] <zzecool> :)
[12:18] <BWorld> I want to be owner of everything and www-data group for everything
[12:18] <BWorld> automatically set
[12:18] <BWorld> so I thought I could use sticky bits
[12:19] <Ben64> you should look into ACL
[12:19] <BWorld> this way apache allways have read access and in some log folder for example I would give www-data write permissions so it can write to it's log
[12:19] <BWorld> but now it is always getting write permissions wich is not defined ANYWHERE
[12:19] <BWorld> :S
[12:19] <BWorld> confused...
[12:19] <BWorld> this is the result of mkdir /data/test:
[12:19] <BWorld> drwsr-sr-x  4 cblokland www-data  4096 2012-02-20 13:03 .
[12:19] <BWorld> drwxr-xr-x 26 root      root      4096 2012-02-20 12:57 ..
[12:19] <BWorld> drwxrwxr-x  2 cblokland cblokland 4096 2012-02-20 13:01 test
[12:19] <FloodBot1> BWorld: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:20] <BWorld> sorry , will do that ;)
[12:20] <Ben64> BWorld: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions#ACL_.28Access_Control_List.29
[12:21] <geirha> BWorld: The initial permissions of created files are determined by umask.
[12:34] <absdf> hi, weird question: how do I join the #java channel? :O
[12:34] <absdf> it says I need to be invited for
[12:34] <absdf> #java and "identified with services" or something for ##java.
[12:35] <Pici> !register | absdf
[12:36] <absdf> that's silly that I have to register a throwaway nick just to ask a single question.
[12:36] <absdf> but ok.
[12:38] <p1l0t> So my father ordered this USB floppy drive.. It didn't come with any drivers so I am assuming it is plug and play. I plugged it in and nothing obvious happened. I catted syslog and got this: http://pastebin.com/qR4tFeSf So it did try its but with errors. And different errors each time I plugged it in..
[12:39] <p1l0t> absdf: You'll be back ;)
[12:40] <ankit__> i study cellular network characteristic .....that why i needs the signal strength for USB devices
[12:40] <ankitb> all
[12:40] <bazhang> ankitb, was there a question in there?
[12:41] <Ben64> p1l0t: looks like it works-ish
[12:41] <ankitb> yaaa
[12:45] <p1l0t> Ben64: Yeah maybe..
[12:46] <p1l0t> Ben64: I guess I'll try mounting it
[12:47] <__Alex_> If i want to make sure there is no way of recovering deleted files from my disc, i fill the free space with random data and then delete? (cat /dev/urandom>file.bin;rm file.bin)
[12:49] <genkbejo> test
[12:49] <Abhijit> fail
[12:50] <Ben64> __Alex_: /dev/zero will work faster
[12:52] <timonah> hi
[12:52] <countley> hi
[12:52] <p1l0t> Ben64: Yeah mounts just fine :)
[12:52] <geirha> __Alex_: There's shred(1)
[12:53] <timonah> male or female
[12:58] <snozek> in default snmpd.conf there is something like this: extend    test1   /bin/echo  Hello, world!
[12:58] <snozek> how can i snmpget/walk this?
[12:58] <escott> __Alex_, that doesn't work with all filesystems because it has to be the exact same location on the disk. but there are tools to do this see shred
[12:59] <Ben64> escott: i think he was talking about filling the whole drive with that file
[12:59] <gkasi> Need help with Grub2 Rescue prompt. I get an unknown filesystem when insmod (hd0,1)/boot/grub/linux.mod
[13:00] <kippi> hey
[13:00] <gkasi> Hey kippi
[13:01] <escott> gkasi, thats not grub2. thats grub1
[13:01] <gkasi> oh escott. Uumm ok. I remember upgrading to grub2 a while ago though.
[13:02] <kippi> I am not sure where the best place to ask this question is... I want to be able to span my toolbar across two screens. Currently I have the same information on both screens as the toolbar is mirrored
[13:02] <gkasi> kippi, are you using gnome?
[13:02] <kippi> unity
[13:03] <gkasi> kippi, sorry man, I've never used unity. Lemme see if I can find the info for you.
[13:03] <escott> gkasi, the syntax you are using (hd0,1) is grub1 syntax. for grub 2 one generally uses (hd0,msdos1) or (hd0,gpt1) depending upon the partition table.
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> kippi  "Xubuntu 12.04 is the only ubuntu based distro that handles dual screens well. But you will have to script a little to get it working permanently."
[13:05] <kippi> dual screens are working fine, just the tool bar is a pain
[13:05] <gkasi> escott, I dont have msdos or windows on the box. It is a pure ubuntu experience. I get the following when I 'ls'. (hd0) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0, msdos2) (hd0, msdos1)
[13:07] <escott> gkasi, msdos just means you have an msdos partition table (normal mbr partition table) as opposed to a gpt table
[13:08] <escott> gkasi, try set root='(hd0,msdos#)'
[13:08] <gkasi> escott, thanks for that. But I m not familiar with gpt table. Because I dont have that, can you advise which of the three msdos1, 2, 3 I need as a combo to boot up?
[13:08] <escott> gkasi, i dont know. probably msdos1
[13:09] <gkasi> ok. I'll try and report back.
[13:14] <gkasi> escott, tried all combo (msdos1, 2 and 3) with set prefix=(hd0,msdos#)/boot/grub and set root=.. and insmod (hd0,msdos#)/boot/grub/linux.mod. For msdos3 I get file not found. Other combos I get unknown filesystem
[13:15] <escott> gkasi, are you in a livecd right now?
[13:15] <gkasi> no livecd that I burnt a while ago doesnt work :( I m on another ubuntu box for irc.
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> gkasi  try using a thumbdrive instead
[13:16] <gkasi> kippi, I've tried googling, hoping you might've missed some link, but no luck mate.
[13:17] <escott> gkasi, its hard to say what is wrong without knowing what your layout is
[13:17] <gkasi> MonkeyDust, old box (2003 model) and bios doesnt boot off USB :(
[13:17] <escott> gkasi, but you are assuming you don't have a /boot partition (by your use of /boot/grub)
[13:18] <gkasi> escott, I used to have a boot partition till this morning when I decided to restart the box. Since the restart I'm stuck with this error. Whilst I dont know what those commands mean, I m following http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2011/09/09/how-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt-without-live-cd-for-grub2/
[13:19] <tehowe> How stable is a Beta 1 expected to be - are we talking 'non-LTS release stable', or not really usable yet?
[13:19] <OerHeks> tehowe, for 12.04 questions & support, ask in #Ubuntu+1
[13:20] <escott> gkasi, there are two main reasons why you would get a sudden boot failure. (a) a corrupted partition in which case you need a livecd to fsck the filesystem (b) a change to your partition tables which would not happen without your knowing about it
[13:20] <tehowe> Right
[13:21] <gkasi> escott, yeah corrupted partition seems like a candidate. I m downloading the Ubuntu 10.10 iso at the moment. Could you tell me the fsck command to fix the partition?
[13:21] <escott> gkasi, sudo fsck /dev/sda#
[13:22] <gkasi> copy that. thanks escott . lemme see if i can rescue now
[13:23] <gkasi> escott, just found another disk labelled ubuntu installation. I m not sure what version and if the disk works. But I m going to try it in just now
[13:24] <gr33n7007h> init 1
[13:24] <gr33n7007h> umount
[13:24] <jodiejoe> Hello everybody, I've a big problem (at least too me it is big)... on my Thinkpad x121e I installed Win7 (64) and afterwards Ubuntu 11.10 with the standard option to install it beside Win7. After installing and rebooting, Win7 directly starts without showing me a Grub2 menu. I tried rescatux and super tux disc but nothing could me bring the bootloader Grub2. It would be very nice if you could help me with this issue! Thanks....
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> jodiejoe  try pressing ctrl while booting
[13:26] <escott> jodiejoe, is this an efi system?
[13:26] <Abhijit> jodiejoe, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[13:26] <jodiejoe> ok I will try to press ctrl
[13:27] <jodiejoe> yes I think it is an efi system
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> jodiejoe  may be shift instead of ctrl, try both
[13:29] <sacarlson> what does #ubuntu-meta represent?
[13:29] <ikonia> sacarlson: read the topic in there
[13:29] <escott> jodiejoe, there is a grub-efi package that you might try installing
[13:29] <sacarlson> ikonia: sorry wrong channel
[13:30] <jodiejoe> neither ctrl/shift work...
[13:33] <Abhijit> jodiejoe, try my link
[13:33] <ayaka> when alisa ls='ls -l', i type ls -a, is it same to ls -la ？
[13:33] <escott> ayaka, its the same as ls -l -a
[13:33] <sacarlson> jodiejoe: best method I know if you don't play realtime games in windows in run it in virtualbox in ubuntu
[13:34] <ayaka> escott thank you
[13:34] <jodiejoe> ok I will try the method provided on the link, thank you
[13:35] <gkasi> escott, thanks for your help so far. My *other* live cd is a no go as well. Hafta wait an hour or so for the 10.10 iso to download and try again. Thanks anyway!
[13:35] <ankitb> i study cellular network characteristic .....that why i needs the signal strength for USB devices
[13:35] <ankitb> indistylo, i study cellular network characteristic .....that why i needs the signal strength for USB devices
[13:36] <gr33n7007h> at+csq
[13:36] <ankitb> gr33n7007h, it doesn't respond real time ......
[13:40] <sacarlson> ankitb: cellular as in celular telephone?  did you checkout USRP ?
[13:42] <Zerpex> Hi everyone, I have /var/www set to be owned by www-data, because wordpress wants to execute as that user.. but how do I make, so all files and folders that is within' /var/www always will be 775 for the group called www-data, and how do I add user1 and user2 to that group?
[13:42] <sln45> lxde and a bunch of openbox-related entries are still in my login after removing lxde. How do I fix this?
[13:43] <ankitb> gr33n7007h, it doesn't respond real time ......
[13:44] <gr33n7007h> ankitb, are you using openBSD ????
[13:46] <sln45> Does anybody at least know where I could look on issues with the login list of environments?
[13:46]  * quiescens dies.
[13:47] <ankitb> gr33n7007h, no i am using ubuntu 10.04.....
[13:48] <Abhijit> ankitb, what you were looking?
[13:49] <sacarlson> Zerpex:  sudo chmod -R 775 /var/www ; worry about security later
[13:50] <gr33n7007h> ankitb, you looking for rssi
[13:50] <Zerpex> sacarlson: it's a development server, which will be private running on a network
[13:50] <Abhijit> i mean what was your original question ankitb
[13:51] <ankitb> Abhijit, I am looking for RSSI value in real time when Internet is connected through that device ....
[13:51] <sln45> I guess I'll look elsewhere.
[13:51] <sln45> Buy guys
[13:51] <sacarlson> Zerpex: so how does that make it any different?  if needed chown -R www-data:www-data
[13:51] <sln45> *Bye
[13:52] <Zerpex> but sacarlson, I can change permissions like that yes.. but when I create a new file - I don't have 775 permissions of those files anymore, and that is the thing I want to be 'default' set for the /var/www folder
[13:52] <Abhijit> ankitb, on which port/device?
[13:53] <apporc> Can i install kvm in kvm's client host?
[13:53] <Abhijit> sorry need to go urently. someone on door. by ankitb
[13:54] <sacarlson> Zerpex: ok I think I get it.  seems like an application problem.  if the file doesn't exist yet and your app creates it I'm not sure you have to power to force it to something else
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> ankitb  mayhaps this is a useful link http://study.prl85.com/
[13:54] <sacarlson> Zerpex: I guess you could have a demon run that auto changes it at some periodic period
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> ankitb  ignore that link, it's for android
[13:54] <Zerpex> sacarlson: when running php as DSO, normally the 'customers' shouldn't use the chown and chmod on the files each time
[13:55] <apporc> Can i install kvm in kvm's client host? Who knows that, thanks.
[13:56] <sacarlson> Zerpex: I've had php apps that could change chmod settings so I know it can, so it's up to your app
[13:56] <escott> apporc, i think so
[13:56] <dado_> ciao
[13:57] <apporc> escott: you think kvm can virtualize one CPU with vmx?
[13:57] <sacarlson> Zerpex: I assume you want it to have privlige but giving it also provides the opertunity  for php to change it
[13:57] <Zerpex> sacarlson: I know.. it's pretty easy in php, but shouldn't be needed to create a PHP script that changes the permissions of the folders - there should be a default group-ownershio of the folders to www-data
[13:58] <sacarlson> Zerpex: yes anything php creates will be owned by www-data as set by priv in appache
[13:58] <escott> apporc, im not sure what you mean by virtualize one cpu. but i believe that recursive kvm does work (although its more of a technology demo than an intended use)
[13:58] <Guest59167> hello
[13:59] <Guest59167> !list
[13:59] <Zerpex> sacarlson: not the files php creates.. let's say I log into ftp on the server, and rightclick, and choose 'new file' then the group should by default be set to www-data
[13:59] <sacarlson> Zerpex: you have more than apache set to access the same file set?
[13:59] <apporc> escott: sorry, not virtualize, should be "virtual out "
[13:59] <ankitb> abhijit, /dev/ttyACM0
[13:59] <Guest59167> sorry
[14:00] <Zerpex> sacarlson: nevermind, the commands I was looking for was chgrp -R www-data /var/www and chmod g+s /var/www
[14:00] <sacarlson> Zerpex: so you have an ftp server runing on the same directory under a different user?
[14:01] <sacarlson> Zerpex: sorry never used chgrp
[14:01] <apporc> escott: because kvm need it's host machine has one CPU with virtualization technology, vmx for intel ,e.g. I don't know whether kvm can virtual out one CPU with vitualiation technology
[14:01] <Zerpex> sacarlson: I have a ftp access to /var/www indeed
[14:01] <|newbie|> help me with sound..i have a sony vaio laptop e vpceb45fg..when i installed ubuntu it didnt have sound i added some lines to the grub and i got it back..but when i inserted headphones it is gone again
[14:02] <apporc> escott: if we want to install kvm on one kvm's client host ,this client must have one CPU with virtulization technology.
[14:02] <sacarlson> Zerpex: ok see I didn't know that part but I might have just change ftp user to www-data but that's only because I'm ignorant
[14:03] <Zerpex> sacarlson: indeed, but we're 10 developers, with different access
[14:03] <escott> apporc, and yes i believe that they have emulated that, but i think it is more of a demo than an intended tool
[14:03] <archo43> hiy
[14:03] <apporc> escott: thanks.
[14:03] <sacarlson> Zerpex: well I'm only glad you found a solution even with my added confusion
[14:03] <apporc> escott: thank you .
[14:04] <Zerpex> sacarlson: no worries :P
[14:04] <me-1> hii...is it possible to triple boot , mac os x , windows 7 and ubuntu on a macbook pro from 2010
[14:04] <ikonia> me-1: bootcamp
[14:04] <sacarlson> Zerpex: oh and my other simple solution would have been chmod -R 777 /var/www  if it's just local who cares
[14:05] <LL2|Android> me-1: or use a VM program
[14:05] <LL2|Android> Like VirtualBox, or VMware
[14:05] <mattgman> so i did some customizing yesterday, and i can't seem to get my desktop icons back.  they are all selected in my "Desktop" under Menu>Settings>Desktop, but they aren't showing.  I'm using XFCE4.  Any help would be great!  I can get other icons to show, just not the defaults.
[14:06] <dolf> #python
[14:06] <|newbie|> somebody help me with sound..my speakers not working..but can hear sound using headphones
[14:06] <me-1> ikonia, LL2|Android  I will like to use bootcamp . It will be really good thing to get best of 3 worls no more Linux vs os x vs windows . how can I do that..?
[14:06] <Zerpex> sacarlson: xD
[14:07] <LL2|Android> Well, bootcamp basically allows you to boot into another OS INSTEAD of Mac OS X
[14:07] <LL2|Android> Its not a VM program
[14:07] <me-1> LL2|Android,  I am not lloking for virtulization either
[14:08] <LL2|Android> Ok
[14:09] <me-1> LL2|Android,  thank you for the info
[14:09] <liberal> LL2|Android: actually, you can use your bootcamp partition as the drive for a virtual machine. so you can have osx and the bootcamp drive booted simultaneously
[14:09] <LL2|Android> Yeah
[14:10] <LL2|Android> But bootcamp itself isnt a VM program
[14:10] <LL2|Android>  thats what I meant
[14:10] <LL2|Android> Also, yay virtualbox allows for vmdk files
[14:10] <sacarlson> |newbie|: if it works on headphones maybe plug the speakers into that jack?
[14:10] <escott> apporc, http://s3hh.wordpress.com/2012/01/19/nested-kvm-guests/
[14:10] <LL2|Android> So I can use it in tandem with VMware
[14:11] <sacarlson> |newbie|: if it's the same jack with headphones as speakers then maybe the problem is in the speaker amp?
[14:12] <liberal> ok. just wanted to clarify what you said.
[14:12] <LL2|Android> Ok
[14:13] <LL2|Android> Hey reCAPTCHA
[14:13] <reCAPTCHA> Hi LL2|Android
[14:13] <LL2|Android> :D
[14:14] <reCAPTCHA> So, I am trying to get my Creative Labs SB1040 PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Sound Card working under Ubuntu... no dice.
[14:14] <afsal> how to create alternate cd
[14:15] <reCAPTCHA> I can't seem to find drivers for it.
[14:15] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: wow I thought all sound blaster stuf should work
[14:15] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: From what I understand Creative is not well known for their Linux support.
[14:16] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: pastebin the sudo lspci  might find out if we can find out if there are drivers
[14:16] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: http://www.pasteall.org/29342
[14:17] <afsal> Please hlp me. how to create alternate installation cd?
[14:17] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: before you even try looking for drivers you might try moving it to another slot in your computer if posible as sometimes there are irc conflicts
[14:17] <vlt> Hello. I want to playback a video file (or DVD) on an Ubuntu machine and want the video to be visible at the same time on another Ubuntu machine in the local network. What do I need to do?
[14:17] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: the machines full-up unfortunately.
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> afsal  you mean modify an existing CD?
[14:18] <afsal> MonkeyDust: I want create from scratch.
[14:18] <LL2|Android> vlt: have you tried VNC?
[14:18] <dean> can someone help me compile this? http://www.garyshood.com/rsclient_linux/  I've not a clue what I'm doing lol
[14:19] <vlt> LL2|Android: The VNC performance isn't good enough.
[14:19] <LL2|Android> ah ok
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> afsal  Remastersys comes to my mind
[14:19] <LL2|Android> I forget if Skype for linux has screen sharing support
[14:19] <|newbie|> how to check whether my sound card is working
[14:19] <LL2|Android> I don't think it does
[14:19] <afsal> MonkeyDust: How use it??
[14:19] <vlt> LL2|Android: I rather thought of something involving VLC ...
[14:20] <LL2|Android> Ah
[14:20] <|newbie|> how to check whether my sound card is on or not
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> afsal  start here http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/remastersys.html
[14:21] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: I see you have at least 2 sound cards and I see there is support for that blaster device so if not needed you could try disable the internal device you have in bios
[14:21] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: gah... can I just blacklist it?
[14:21] <LL2|Android> Damnit VirtualBox!
[14:21] <vlt> Either could the second machine read a stream from the first one's VLC player or both VLC players read from the same video file. But how to sync both players then?
[14:22] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: I'm not sure that would help if the problem is irc conflict
[14:22] <LL2|Android> Why can't you run like VMware and just allocate the drive file space as needed, up to the cap set?!
[14:22] <afsal> MonkeyDust: Ok, thnks Now i'm going to try...
[14:22] <LL2|Android> D:
[14:22] <afsal> exit
[14:22] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: okay, well, either way none of the audio outputs seem to work...
[14:23] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: oh that's another sign of conflic if the other worked before
[14:23] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: Neither has ever worked at all.
[14:23] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: just moving the card to another slot will probly work
[14:23] <escott> vlt, gstreamer probably has some kind of network streaming capability
[14:23] <reCAPTCHA> Well, I will try to switch it up, then.
[14:24] <reCAPTCHA> Gah... if I only had a screwdriver.
[14:24] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: oh ok if neather ever worked then I'm not sure
[14:24] <escott> vlt, this should give some ideas https://www.ridgerun.com/developer/wiki/index.php/Using_UDP_Multicast_with_GStreamer
[14:24]  * LL2|Android realizes that he uses a Windows OS for his main OS (I used ubuntu in a VM, before my hard drive went kaput) and starts running from the channel for no apparent reason :P
[14:24] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: all the more reason to disable the internal if it never worked anyway
[14:25] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: okay... I'll try that.
[14:25] <vlt> escott: Thank you. I'll read that.
[14:25] <NyLes> mgolisch hey its me :) I have a problem now with nomodeset :) I can't activate it.. I am installing 10.04 now but I cant't get it to boot with nomodeset? how will I do that? I'm using USB..
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> |newbie|  open a terminal and type alsamixer - if you see MM, go there and press M
[14:25] <LL2|Android> sacarlson: also, you would agree that even something like linux or ubuntu can get viruses, right?
[14:25] <vlt> escott: Maybe I don't need the video on the first machine but only audio instead. Would that make it wasier?
[14:26] <vlt> *easier
[14:26] <Simon1245> Hey guys, is it possible to install Ubiquity firefox addon?
[14:26] <dean> can someone help me compile this? http://www.garyshood.com/rsclient_linux/  I've not a clue what I'm doing lol
[14:27] <auronandace> LL2|Android: practically there is no need to antivirus on linux (unless passing files onto windows)
[14:27] <sacarlson> LL2|Android: I've never had a virus in any unix/linux system in the 20 years I worked with it
[14:27] <NyLes> can someone help me?
[14:27] <auronandace> LL2|Android: user error is a far more common and serious threat
[14:27] <sacarlson> LL2|Android: only way you can get viruses is with blackbox unsigned software model as in windows
[14:27] <LL2|Android> Well
[14:28] <LL2|Android> Even something like linux or ubuntu can get viruses, truth be told
[14:28] <p1l0t> LL2|Android: The only way to get a virus on linux is if you install it yourself.
[14:28] <LL2|Android> p1l0t: not true
[14:28] <sacarlson> LL2|Android: sure anything is posible but probable no
[14:28] <LjL> p1l0t: or if someone exploits your system remotely and puts one in.
[14:28] <Simon1245> Hey guys, is it possible to install Ubiquity firefox addon on Firefox 10.0.02?
[14:28] <escott> vlt, gstreamer is very flexible, and it should be able to mux/demux and export whatever channel you want
[14:28] <p1l0t> Yeah if someone gets root I guess
[14:29] <LL2|Android> p1l0t: actually, they might not even need root, depending
[14:29] <bazhang> LL2|Android, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[14:29] <|newbie|> MonkeyDust: there is no MM
[14:29] <NyLes> mgolisch if you came back please buzz me :(
 U there? This is using to backup the system
[14:30] <sacarlson> LL2|Android: I wrote what would be called a trojen for linux as a support tool to help my clients so if you might call that a virus then again it's posible
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> afsal  try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
 That is live cd customization. I want alternate cd ...
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> afsal  "You do not need to start from a pre-existing LiveCd."
[14:32] <p1l0t> The thing is a virus cannot survive well unless it reproduces and with the way linux is written it almost has to be intentional to get an infection so the reward doesn't outweigh workload to even write them.
[14:33] <sacarlson> LL2|Android: I wrote what would be called a trojan for linux as a support tool to help my clients so if you might call that a virus then again it's possible, but to be termed a virus it would have to be self replicating
[14:33] <reCAPTCHA> Shadowcat: you're not the Uru shadowcat, are you?
[14:33] <afsal> MonkeyDust: Ok, I already tried that. Now I want create alternate cd(ie. text base installation cd)
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> afsal  you can find it on ubuntu.com
[14:34] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: Oddly enough, it was already disabled in bios. :-/
[14:34] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization afsal
[14:34] <afsal> MonkeyDust: where
[14:34] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: I don't know how that could be as we saw it in the lspci
[14:34] <bazhang> afsal, I just gave you a link
[14:35] <NyLes> bazhang, have a minute?
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> afsal  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[14:35] <bazhang> NyLes, Ask the channel
[14:35] <afsal> bazhang: Give me...
[14:35] <bazhang> afsal, give you what?
[14:36] <p1l0t> bazhang: I thinks he made a joke
[14:36]  * p1l0t :D
[14:36] <afsal> bazhang: A link
[14:36] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization   <------ afsal
[14:36] <NyLes> bazhang, how can i boot with nomodeset option on 10.04? I'm using USB to boot..
[14:37] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: if it was disabled in bios it should not be able to be seen by lspci
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> afsal  I just gave you the link
[14:37] <p1l0t> Aren't we on like 11.10 already almost 12.04
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> april
[14:37] <afsal> MonkeyDust: That is ubuntu alternate cd dowloading page....
[14:37] <reCAPTCHA> It's odd, but I checked and it said 'disabled'. :-/
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> afsal  correct, text based instaler, what you were asking
[14:38] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: well maybe it has more than one device to disable in the audio section make sure it's not seen at all in lspci
[14:38] <afsal> MonkeyDust: I want create my own alternate cd fromscratch. Give me any tutorial about this
[14:38] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html NyLes you mean this?
[14:39] <bazhang> afsal, did you actually read the link I gave you?
[14:39] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: or maybe the bios is mest up?  maybe you need to flash it?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: Precise is in Alpha2 right now
[14:40] <afsal> MonkeyDust: Which remastersys??
[14:40] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: I've never had to reflash a bios and I think it must be done in some windows thing if at all
[14:40] <oelly> hallo
[14:40] <p1l0t> ActionParsnip: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule :)
[14:40] <ayaka> is it chrooy can test the kernel work or not
[14:40] <oelly> ich habe ein problem#
[14:40] <ayaka> is it chroot can test the kernel work or not
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: indeed, I'm using Precise now ;)
[14:41] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: this may not be helpful, but there seems to be no issue when using windoze with the sound.
[14:41] <oCean> !de | oelly
[14:41] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: on both cards?
[14:41] <bazhang> afsal, I gave you a link to customize the installer cd, MonkeyDust gave you a link on where to download the alternate cd (the one you need to modify)
[14:41] <afsal> MonkeyDust: Which one, remastersys??
[14:41] <bazhang> afsal, no
[14:41] <reCAPTCHA> I'd have to varify that, but I do believe so.
[14:41] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: if it's a hardware irc problem then windows would see the problem also
[14:42] <afsal> bazhang which link you gave???
[14:42] <p1l0t> ActionParsnip: I usually wait till the full release date. I'm chicken I guess.
[14:42] <NyLes> bazhang, ive tried that but when i press F6 nothing is happens..
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: I like to report bugs and get stuff fixed
[14:42] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: right, so I am thinking that it is non-compatable / missing drivers.
[14:42] <|newbie|> sound through my headphones are also very less
[14:42] <p1l0t> ActionParsnip: I should be as proactive.
[14:42] <bazhang> afsal, hi
[14:42] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: and the card still works in windows even when disabled in bios?
[14:43] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: didn't varify that.
[14:43] <afsal> bazhang which link you gave???
[14:43] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization afsal heres the link for the 3rd time
[14:43] <escott> ayaka, no chroot does not change the kernel
[14:43] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: I don't know. :-/
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> afsal  maybe this is what you want http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: i don't care about my OS running. I have xpud I can use without issue and I can fix some things if it goes awry. If you need a working OS, stick with the stable release
[14:43] <afsal> bazhang Now got it....
[14:43] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, he wants to customize the alternate cd
[14:44] <ayaka> escott is there a way to test it？
[14:44] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: ok I do see problems with that card here http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-884370-start-0.html
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> http://maketecheasier.com/reconstructor-creating-your-own-ubuntu-distribution/2008/07/05
[14:44] <|newbie|> sound with sony vaio laptop sound..no sound through speakers..sound low through headset.help pls
[14:44] <escott> ayaka, boot into it
[14:44] <apporc> What will happen if i exposed my dhcp server to the internet ?this dhcp server assign public ip.anyone knows this ?
[14:45] <ikonia> apporc: nothing
[14:45] <apporc> ikonia: it's ok?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> |newbie|: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[14:45] <apporc> ikonia: it's just ok?
[14:45] <ikonia> apporc: it's pointless
[14:45] <ayaka> escott,i see,can update initrd in chroot
[14:45] <afsal> bazhang: This is customizing an existing cd. I want from sceatch
[14:45] <apporc> ikonia: i mean , will that mess the internet?
[14:45] <ikonia> apporc: please, think about it
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> apporc: nothing will happen, you will just reduce security by opening more ports
[14:46] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: Gah.. rebuilding the kernel? What does that entail?
[14:46] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: seems it started here Linux kernel 2.6.38  so maybe try before and after that if that's what your running now
[14:46] <bazhang> afsal, how does this relate to ubuntu? you want to make your own cd? you need to study on how that is done
[14:46] <escott> ayaka, you can do a lot of things in chroot but the system calls go to the kernel you booted (aka that of the livecd) you can modify the installed system however you want
[14:46] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: just find a package with a different one
[14:46] <auronandace> afsal: why are you asking in #ubuntu?
[14:46] <p1l0t> ActionParsnip: Yeah for me one is a server at work and one is a netbook I need for school. I do have another PC I use as a server but its at my parents house still because I don't have internet at my house, lol. I use 4G through my phone which is great 5dn 1.5up but not for running a server. I suppose I could use it for testing though and I am shopping for static IPs but I hate comcast they won't let me have my own modem only 
[14:46] <apporc> thanks, my friends.
[14:46] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: err? A package with a different linux kernel? :-/
[14:46] <bazhang> afsal, you initially said you wanted to modify the alternate CD from Ubuntu
[14:47] <afsal> bazhang: Ok, I'm studying plz give any tutorials about it???
[14:47] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: That does not compute with me.
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: 5mb down ain't bad
[14:47]  * p1l0t does have a dyndns account too though
[14:47] <bazhang> afsal, about what?
[14:47] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: well what is running now seen with uname -a
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: no-ip here
[14:47] <ayaka> escott, no i means can i update the initrd in the chroot,in order to boot the kernel in the chroot
[14:47] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: 2.6.32-38-generic
[14:48] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: it's as easy as synaptic install some package
[14:48] <afsal> bazhang: Creating ubuntu alternate installation cd from scratch(ie. textbase installation cd)
[14:48] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: really, now? so... what sudo apt-get install linux-2.x?
[14:48] <auronandace> afsal:why do you want to do that?
[14:48] <xangua> afsal: you mean create something that already exists¿
[14:48] <bazhang> afsal, and the link I gave you tells you how to do it.
[14:49] <bazhang> afsal, Please read the Link
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> afsal: http://maketecheasier.com/build-your-own-ubuntu-based-distro-with-novo-builder/2010/07/02
[14:49] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: well that's not the same as the above 2.6.38 so not sure.
[14:49] <escott> ayaka, you don't boot a kernel in a chroot. chroot is not a virtualized container. it just changes what "/" means. since "everything is a file" changing "/" has a lot of affects. all your libraries and files are from the chroot, but the running kernel, the actual interface to the hardware, is unchanged
[14:50] <p1l0t> ActionParsnip: I guess if I am going to pay for a landline when I already have 5mb down through my 4G I want it much faster and static IP but no FiOS where I live and can't use my own modem with the cable company unless its dynamic.. :/ not sure why. Not that I NEED my own modem but I just hate the ones they use and how they have them setup.
[14:50] <Brianbac> My mouse wheel somehow controls the system volume instead of scrolling up and down pages (no matter where it is placed, and what is highlighted) does anyone know how this can have happened, and how to get back to normal functionality?
[14:50] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: kernel package normaly start with linix-image....
[14:50] <afsal> bazhang: First i debootstrat the ubuntu base system then create a installation cd
[14:50] <sacarlson> sorry linux-image
[14:50] <bazhang> afsal, you need to do some reading first.
[14:51] <afsal> bazhang: This is my plan. Debootstrap is done. Next for installation
[14:51] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: okay, I see it in my package manager.
[14:52] <ayaka> escott,i know,but i can set grub boot
[14:52] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: so, what do I do first?
[14:53] <Brianbac> seems to be a problem with my mouse, since other mice work normally?!?
[14:53] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: oh I didn't notice but he found a solution http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-884370-start-0.html
[14:53] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: It says 'dded SND_HD_INTEL driver per module in my kernel with the [*] CA0110 Creative codec'
[14:53] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: Ha.. yeah, that's what I've been looking at and why I asked how to rebuild the kernel.
[14:53] <loganrun> is there any way to move the icons around on the program launcher bar, I don't like the order
[14:53] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: that sounds good that's just what this guy said he was missing
[14:53] <danileigh79> I have a MadCatz 4716 wired xbox controller, how can I get it to work in Ubuntu 11.10?
[14:54] <danileigh79> It works on a WinXP computer
[14:54] <|newbie|> ActionParsnip: the output is in this link http://susepaste.org/23554245
[14:54] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: so if you just install his version of the kernel it might work
[14:54] <zykotick9> danileigh79: plug it in and then check in a /dev/input/js0 is created
[14:54] <zykotick9> s/in a/if a/
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> |newbie|: run:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-iquik/alsa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*            reboot to test
[14:55] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: okay... ugh.. so, I install 'Linux' from the package manager...
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> |newbie|: you do realise the script can pastebin for you, just select to upload when the script is done
[14:55] <escott> ayaka, you can change the boot preferences for the next boot, but your terminology is wrong when you say "in order to boot the kernel in the chroot"
[14:56] <danileigh79> zykotick9: There is no file there for js0
[14:56] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA:  I hate sound problems I'm more of a network geek sorry
[14:56] <reCAPTCHA> And then do I type 'linux-image' into the command line or something?
[14:56] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: it's cool.
[14:56] <zykotick9> danileigh79: that means the kenel doesn't understand the joystick hardware.  Good luck - I've never had a joystick that didn't work, so I have no suggestions.
[14:57] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: awful nice of you to assist.
[14:57] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: no it will just force reboot to start the new kernal
[14:57] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: I've not acomplished anything yet so don't thank me yet
[14:57] <module000> danileigh79: identify your joystick from the output of `lsusb`, then compile and load the module to support it with your current kernel. probably not the solution you were after.
[14:58] <danileigh79> zykotick9: The controller has lights on it similar to the front of an xbox 360, they just flashed a few times, and a js0 file popped up in dev/input... what do I do now
[14:58] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: okay... well, I have linux selected to install in the package manager... but his solution is more than just 'reload the kernel'.
[14:59] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: well it was just some settings he didn't have set in the compile but ubuntu normaly has them all set
[14:59] <zykotick9> danileigh79: well, you could test it with "cat /dev/input/js0" and press some buttons to see text outputted to the terminal.  But the real, method is install a game, and be sure it points to /dev/input/js0 (some try to default to the very old /dev/js0)
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> |newbie|: why didn't you install Oneiric....?
[14:59] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: I"ve compiled custom kernel before but found in most cases it was unesisary
[14:59] <danileigh79> module000: lsusb shows bus 005 Device 002: ID 1bad:f016 Marmonix Music
[14:59] <reCAPTCHA> Okay... well, I can try it... I've never rebuilt the kernel before... when it reboots will it automatically ask me what I want selected? Also, do I need to save everything?
[15:00] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: by 'save' I mean 'backup'
[15:00] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: back in 2008 there was a time I needed to compile custom kernel for my wifi usb device that was about it
[15:00] <|newbie|> ActionParsnip: is oneiric an irc client?
[15:00] <danileigh79> zykotick9: I'm trying to get the gamepad to work in emulators like Visual Boy Advance and FCEUX like it does in Windows
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> |newbie|: no, oneiric is the codename of ubuntu 11.10, the latest stable release
[15:01] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: it will keep a copy of the original but it will default to the new one
[15:01] <bazhang> |newbie|, its 11.10
[15:01] <reCAPTCHA> Alright, let's try this.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: add the playonlinux repo and it has a calibrating app which may help
[15:01] <danileigh79> zykotick9: Also, when I did the "cat /dev/input/js0" it's showing a bunch of characters in terminal and won't go away
[15:02] <zykotick9> danileigh79: ctrl+c
[15:02] <ayaka> escott,i see,but can i prepare initrd in chroot
[15:02] <danileigh79> zykotick9: thanks
[15:02] <danileigh79> Action
[15:02] <|newbie|> ActionParsnip: is the sound issue of vaio laptops solved in iric?
[15:02] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: full command is suso apt--get repository ppa:playonlinux?
[15:03] <danileigh79> *sudo
[15:03] <escott> ayaka, yes
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: no, do some research instead of attempting to guess
[15:03] <|newbie|> bazhang: thank you
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> |newbie|: not sure, it has a later version of alsa which may help, the PPA I gave will update your Alsa and may help
[15:04] <escott> ayaka, you can install packages, you can fiddle with files, you can run your installed programs in many cases
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: sorry, its play deb
[15:04] <|newbie|> ActionParsnip: actually this laptop is not mine..it is my friend's..he is a complete newbie to linux..it seemed 10.04 simpler to him..the less graphic environment
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: wget http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; rm ./playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[15:05] <ayaka> escott do you know how to shutdown chroot at all,in my memories,exit will not stop program start in chroot
[15:05]  * faithlove is away (Gone fishing!)
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> |newbie|: xubuntu 11.10 looks not too dissimilar to Gnome 2 in Lucid....
[15:05] <LjL> !away > fAithlOve
[15:06] <afsal> quit
[15:06] <afsal> exit
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/11.10/?q=joy    may help
[15:07] <escott> ayaka, exit
[15:08] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: Trying to get it now
[15:08] <ayaka> escott thank you
[15:08] <escott> ayaka, right something that has forked will continue to run in its chroot. you would close it normally or kill it
[15:08] <Lint> can grub2 bootloader to use custom fonts while in text mode? rightnow is uses my BIOS font (in some DOS turkish encoding)
[15:08] <ayaka> escott you mean you have to go？
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: it has some great games and such, check it out
[15:09] <chachin> woo 1487 people
[15:09] <chachin>  on a vps.. when im on root form.. how do i revert back to normal user?
[15:09] <chachin> ubuntu 11.04
[15:09] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: will do, but dpkg says it doesn't exist, but I see it in synaptic
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: see what?
[15:10] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: getdeb doesn't show in dpkg, but it shows up in synaptic
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: the getdeb is a source, the deb adds the source and imports the key. It adds a software source so that the links on the page I gave will work
[15:11] <ayaka> i have done a stupid thing, i chown -R ayaka:ayaka / ,how to cancel it, i can't reinstall system
[15:11] <hatop_> chachin: you could type logout perhaps
[15:11] <vlt> Hello. I installed Ubuntu Oneiric, and now my neighbours hate me. I need help with audio volume settings. Everytime I login my audio volume is set to 100 %, no matter what I select in lightdm's login screen. Any idea how to fix this?
[15:11] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: and these sources/apps should allow my xbox360 controller to work, right
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> ayaka: you willneed to, the ownerships are varied throughout the OS.
[15:11] <rodrerich> hola, amigos. Alguien que hable español?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: possibly, there are joystick apps which may help
[15:12] <vlt> !es | rodrerich
[15:12] <hatop_> radrerich: sorry I only speak enough spanish to read that.
[15:12] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks, been a big help sweetie
 chachin: you could type logout perhaps  <<< nah someone told me type: exit and it did :)
[15:12] <chachin> im on a vps
[15:12] <lucifer> Guys do U Know Any Alternative For Library.nu...?
[15:12] <rodrerich> gracias, amigos
[15:12] <lucifer> We R Doomed...!
[15:12] <ayaka> ActionParsnip, i want to change to default
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> ayaka: you even changed the ownership of your users home and so on, it will take months to get it anywhere near correct
[15:12] <rodrerich> thanks
[15:12] <vlt> rodrerich: de nada
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> lucifer: what is library.nu ?
[15:13] <lucifer> The Biggest Free-Ebook Web Site In The World...And It's Past Tense...
[15:13] <ayaka> ActionParsnip: don't worried about home, think the others file
[15:13] <lucifer> It Was Banned About A Week Ago
[15:13] <chachin> wow almost 1500 users
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> ayaka: they are owned in lots of different ways, most will be root:root but others are not
[15:14] <Lint> !ot>lucifer
[15:14] <bc81> lucifer, can i pm you?  i don't think that question will go over well here, it's more suited for off-topic)
[15:14] <oCean> lucifer: how is that an #ubuntu issue?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> lucifer: http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/20-best-websites-to-download-free-e-books/
[15:15] <zykotick9> ayaka: reinstall is easiest method for getting out of the mess you just created.  It would literally require 1000s of custom chown to get back.
[15:15] <lucifer> Srrrryyyy...Srrryyy i'm just new To this Enviornment I'm A Little Bit Confused And I Donno how To Open A Private Message here...?
[15:15] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, thats not helping
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> lucifer: how is this ubuntu related though
[15:16] <lucifer> ActionParsnip : Yeah U R Right, Leaving now...
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> lucifer: if  you'd read the message when you joined the channel, its not confusing at all
[15:16] <ayaka> zykotick9,for some reason, i can't , it need debootstrap ,i can get a debian or ubuntu recetently
[15:16] <ayaka> can't
[15:17] <lucifer> bc81, ubottu : Thank U Guys...:)
[15:17] <melvincv> Good day to all. Sound stopped working in Natty all of a sudden.
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: run:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*      wait a few seconds, then try some sound apps
[15:18] <chachin> what's the best way to make my vps OS ubuntu 11.04 upgrade to 11.10?
[15:18] <chachin> with command line
[15:18] <chachin> i found something
[15:18] <chachin> apt-get update
[15:18] <chachin> apt-get autoclean
[15:18] <chachin> do-release-upgrade
[15:18] <FloodBot1> chachin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:18] <chachin> those 3 commands
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | chachin
[15:19] <eKKo> Hey folks.. anyone able to help me with: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1928544 ?
[15:19] <chachin> but ActionParsnip if i do those commands.. will it delete my files/folders and make it a new os?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> chachin: it upgrades the binarys that make up the OS, no data is deleted.
[15:19] <melvincv> Isn't it "sudo killall pulseaudio"
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: no, or I would have said
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: pulseaudio is ran as user, so your user can kill its own process
[15:20] <melvincv> ok, I did it without sudo, no go
[15:20] <ayaka> zykotick9: can i reinstall itself in break system？
[15:20] <zykotick9> ayaka: sorry, i can't help you.  good luck.
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: both commands need running on the same line so the file and folder get removed while pulse is stopped
[15:21] <ayaka> zykotick9 thank you
[15:21] <ayaka> ActionParsnip: thank you
[15:21] <melvincv> Ah, I see. :)
[15:24] <melvincv> no go, even the speaker test is not working :(
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: run:   alsamixer     are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[15:24] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: Yeah, even those jojystick apps aren't recognizing the gamepad is there... :(
[15:27] <MacroMan> Hi everyone
[15:27] <bc81> heyas, Macro
[15:27] <MacroMan> I'm attempting to configure a third monitor running from a USB2VGA adapter
[15:27] <MacroMan> It appears that the 2 monitors I've got were auto configured
[15:28] <MacroMan> So I'm trying to mannually configure them in Xorg.conf
[15:28] <VEndix> is there any way to play muonline on ubuntu?
[15:28] <sskasirajan> how can i view the source code of apps in ubuntu!!
[15:28] <LjL> sskasirajan: apt-get source <packagename>
[15:28] <MacroMan> However, my current monitors aren't in there. I tried 'Xorg -configure' but it gives me an error sayong that x server is already running
[15:29] <MacroMan> How can I generate a config file based on my current setup?
[15:29] <zykotick9> MacroMan: stop Xorg then run the command (but I though it was "X --configure" but you are probably right)
[15:29] <melvincv> ActionParsnip, yes, alsamixer seems ok. But I have 3 sound cards listed. 0 - Realtek 1 - Creative SB 5.1 VX  2 - AMD HDMI
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: so its an xbox360 pad.. is it wireless?
[15:30] <MacroMan> OK, let me try
[15:30] <MacroMan> Thanks
[15:30] <bc81> VEndix: you can tried installing it in PlayOnLinux
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: oh those creative things can be a pain, I avoid them like the plague
[15:30] <melvincv> ActionParsnip, I've connected my speakers to Creative
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: have you tried disabling the onboard sound in BIOS?
[15:31] <Lint> sskasirajan, on launchpad.net, select a package, a branch and click 'view the code'
[15:31] <MacroMan> Hmm, how odd. When I run Xorg -configure with x server stopped I get an error telling me that the configured devices doesn't match the actual number of devices. I haven't plugged the new monitor in yet
[15:31] <dlentz> melvincv, when you do speaker-test, are you specifying the Creative card (with -d)?
[15:31] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: No, wired... I'm on ubuntu forums right now, it says it *should* work out of box, but I'm in the procecess of updating drivers noow
[15:31] <zykotick9> MacroMan: your "Xorg -configure" might not be correct
[15:32] <melvincv> ActionParsnip, ok, next time I restart I'll try, but, uh, I need both cards as the Creative one does not have front panel audio
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: what is the line that identifies it in the output of:  lsusb
[15:32] <MacroMan> OK, I'll try your 'X --configure'
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: make sure the creative card is set as the outputdevice
[15:32] <melvincv> I see my speaker icon in the indicator applet is disabled
[15:32] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: All of my lines are showing root hub except for "Bus 005 Device 002: ID 1bad:f016 Harmonix Music
[15:32] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: so I'm assuming that's it
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: logical :)
[15:33] <b0ot> I have a slip connection via serial on a cisco router... does anyone know how I could set that same connection up with ubuntu?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:33] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: I try :)
[15:33] <melvincv> ActionParsnip, yes, it is (in the Output tab of Sound Preferences?)
[15:34] <Zerpex> hmm, I used passwd user1, updated the password, but when I try log in with that user, it says password is wrong
[15:34] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: Oneiric
[15:34] <Lint> can grub2 bootloader to use custom fonts while in text mode? rightnow is uses my BIOS font (in some DOS turkish encoding)
[15:34] <mohan_> I can't update VLC to 2.0
[15:34] <sacarlson> b0ot: telnet maybe?
[15:34] <mohan_> i tried from Ubuntu Software center and terminal
[15:34] <mohan_> not working
[15:34] <mohan_> need help guys
[15:35] <zykotick9> Zerpex: are you user1?  if so the command should have been "passwd", to set another user's password it would need "sudo passwd user1" to work.
[15:35] <Zerpex> zykotick9: no I'm user 2, and I used the sudo command
[15:35] <bazhang> mohan_, did you add a ppa?
[15:35] <mohan_> ohh
[15:35] <mohan_> hmm
[15:35] <bazhang> !info vlc
[15:35] <Zerpex> so I did sudo passwd user1
[15:35] <sacarlson> mohan_: for vlc 2.0 I assume you must have used ppa
[15:35] <mohan_> no
[15:35] <mohan_> let me do it
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:grumbel/ppa ; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install xboxdrv
[15:35] <melvincv> ActionParsnip, which are the best brands in sound card technology now? I thought the best is Creative. Realtek is more useless! :-\
[15:35] <bazhang> mohan_, the regular usc does not have it
[15:35] <mohan_> ok
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: no, they are far from best
[15:36] <MacroMan> 'X --configure' wasn't quite what I was looking for
[15:36] <b0ot> sacarlson, how would you use telnet
[15:36] <zykotick9> MacroMan: did you see where it put the generated xorg.conf file?  copy it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[15:37] <sacarlson> b0ot: man telnet
[15:37] <MacroMan> 'Xorg -configure' is supposed to automatically create a config file. 'X --configure' seems to be to create one with options
[15:37] <MacroMan> X --configure didn't create a config file
[15:37] <b0ot> sacarlson, man telnet | grep slip = nothing
[15:37] <MacroMan> just gave me lots of options. I didn't really want to touch it because I've broken ym display before by doing tnaty
[15:37] <MacroMan> that
[15:38] <oCean> danileigh79, mohan_ please note that using PPA's is entirely at "own risk", PPA's are unsupported 3rd party repositories
[15:38] <danileigh79> oCean: Aware, thanks sweetie
[15:38] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: Got xbobxdrv, trying it out now
[15:38] <Zerpex> zykotick9: hmm :S it's really weird
[15:38] <zykotick9> MacroMan: sorry the command is "X -configure"
[15:39] <MacroMan> Ah OK, let me try
[15:39] <georgieee> Does anyone know how to pause vlc player by clicking on the screen?
[15:39] <sacarlson> b0ot: picocom?
[15:40] <MacroMan> 'Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. COnfiguration faild
[15:40] <MacroMan> Same error as before
[15:40] <zykotick9> MacroMan: sorry, that's beyond me.  Good luck.
[15:40] <MacroMan> Is it because I currently have 2 monitors plugged in?
[15:40] <MacroMan> OK, thanks anyway
[15:40] <chachin> !peak
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> !info peak
[15:41] <bazhang> chachin, /msg ubottu please
[15:43] <nsahoo> Hi, whats the different between gnome and gnome-shell
[15:43] <cromag> wow, that's anoying :(
[15:43] <cromag> oh
[15:43] <chachin> http://i.imgur.com/BDzkt.png  <<< why does it say that?
[15:44] <nsahoo> what is there in gnome in addition to gnome-shell?
[15:44] <Bubo> Hello, can anyone help me install mysql so i can use it with python?
[15:44] <sacarlson> b0ot: I also found this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man4/sl.4.html
[15:45] <sacarlson> b0ot: I assumed with serial you just needed a dumb terminal into a cisco box to see status
[15:46] <_Marcus> How do I change what shell a user logs into? Right now when he logs in it goes strait to sh, but I want it to go to bash.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: try one of these: http://www.dv247.com/computer-hardware/echo-layla-3g-24-bit-audio-interface-with-pci-card--23617
[15:46] <b0ot> sacarlson, nah... that's trivial with putty
[15:46] <chachin> http://i.imgur.com/BDzkt.png  <<< why does it say that?
[15:46] <sacarlson> b0ot: can't cisco do everything over ethernet also?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: it's in /etc/passwd
[15:46] <zykotick9> _Marcus: "chsh" as the user is another method
[15:46] <b0ot> I need an ip address on serial port that is encapsulated with the slip protocol
[15:46] <sacarlson> b0ot: if putty then what you want is ssh
[15:46] <b0ot> I didn't say I needed to configure a cisco route
[15:47] <b0ot> configuring a cisco router via serial = trivial
[15:47] <b0ot> what I said is that I was able to configure within a cisco router a serial connection on the router with the slip protocol
[15:47] <b0ot> where the serial port is an actual interface on the router
[15:47] <b0ot> not used for configuration
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: there is obviously everything in between, in the great scheme of things, creative is quite budget
[15:48] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: xboxdrv did not solve problem, should I reboot before trying someting else?
[15:48] <mneptok> Bubo: if you're an Ubuntu users, i would carefully consider using MariaDB instead of MySQL
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: did you load the driver module in?
[15:49] <sacarlson> b0ot: like this The sl interface allows serial lines to be used as network interfaces      using the slip protocol.  The sl interface can use Van Jacobson TCP      header compression and ICMP filtering.  This is arranged by using the      various link-level flags to the ifconfig(8) command: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/picocom.8.html
[15:49] <Bubo> mneptok why? is it easier? i want to use it with python
[15:49] <mneptok> Bubo: there is discussion of replacing MySQL with MariaDB in the next release of Ubuntu.
[15:49] <Computer-01> Computers in my network cannot ping/connect to my ubuntu 10.04 server, and I can see and connect to them, what could the problem be?
[15:49] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/850109/
[15:50] <mneptok> Bubo: MariaDB is neither easier nor more difficult, as it is a drop-in replacement for MySQL.
[15:50] <sacarlson> b0ot: sorry wrong paist page http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man4/sl.4.html
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: does it give an xboxdrv kernel module?
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> Computer-01  how can you see them, then?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: you may need to run the command with sudo too
[15:51] <mneptok> Computer-01: "connect" how? FTP? HTTP? SFTP? what?
[15:51] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: working on a couple of the suggestions, uno momento :)
[15:52] <Computer-01> MonkeyDust, Lies I cannot ping them, but I can connect to their Mysql server, but they cannot connecto mine.
[15:52] <Computer-01> mneptok, using mysql-admin.
[15:52] <_Marcus> How do I make it so that a user cannot leave it's home directory(anything above /home/user)?
[15:52] <mneptok> Computer-01: are inbund ports open on those machines? have you told the admin tool to accept connections other than from localhost?
[15:53] <Zerpex> when using "mkdir -p /var/www/somefolder" what exactly does the -p do then?
[15:53] <oCean> Zerpex: create parent dirs, if necessary
[15:53] <Zerpex> ahh nice!
[15:53] <Computer-01> mneptok, I believe not... let me check this.
[15:53] <ZeusCool> Hi, I got this error and php is not working:--> mod_fcgid: process cgi_wrapper exit (communication error), terminated by calling exit(), return code: 114
[15:53] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: It now says "Try to run 'rmmod xpad' and then xboxdrv again or start xboxdrv with the option --detach-kernel-driver.
[15:53] <JKwest> Hello
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: sounds like a plan
[15:54] <beowulf09us> hi
[15:54] <JKwest> Qualcuno parla italiano?
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> !it
[15:55] <zykotick9> danileigh79: when you catted the /dev/input/js0 when you pressed buttons/stick did text character appear as you pressed buttons/pad?
[15:55] <sacarlson> b0ot: or maybe this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/configuring-slip-in-ubuntu-716436/
[15:55] <ZeusCool> !ro
[15:55] <JKwest> Grazie mille
[15:55] <danileigh79> zykotick9:yes and no, It was doing it even though I wasn't touching the gamepad
[15:56] <zykotick9> danileigh79: ok, then that wasn't working at that point then (it should be still, unless you press stuff)
[15:56] <ZeusCool> Hi, I got this error and php is not working, I've been tring to solve and google it for two days but no luck:--> mod_fcgid: process cgi_wrapper exit (communication error), terminated by calling exit(), return code: 114
[15:57] <Computer-01> mneptok, how can I do that, since inside Mysql admin in networking the option to disable TCP/IP connections is not activated, and the ufw firewall is disabled
[15:57] <BlouBlou> guys, do you know any online-chess for ubuntu? something like the one which came in older versions of ubuntu
[15:57] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: finally got something going here....
[15:57] <mneptok> Computer-01: telnet to the port that the admin tools uses. see if you get a response.
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> ZeusCool  try ##php (that's double #)
[15:57] <Computer-01> mneptok, But one thing is that I cannot connect to my Server using the IP address only using localhost.
[15:58] <vivekimsit> how can I see the list of commands that I used on a particular day?
[15:58] <mneptok> Computer-01: DB server or ... ?
[15:58] <bazhang> vivekimsit, in bash? or on irc?
[15:58] <vivekimsit> in bash
[15:58] <ZeusCool> I can't MonkeyDust
[15:59] <mneptok> Computer-01: you need to be MUCH more explicit. "connect to my server" whith what? SSH? a web browser? a database? what?
[15:59] <Computer-01> mneptok, in the stored connection using mysql-admin
[15:59] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: ok, so now sudo xbobxdrv works, showing my the controls in a separate term window (using terminator) but when nI go into the emulator/game, it still doesn't do anything when I'm trying to map the gamepad in vba
[15:59] <mneptok> Computer-01: is mysqld running with access to the external port? or is it relegated to localhost?
[16:00] <Computer-01> mneptok, I am afraid I don't have the knowledge to answer that.
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: yes but did you get the module loaded using the instructions you pasted earlier???
[16:00] <danileigh79> zykotick9: looks ilke catting js0 WAS soing something... the analog on this gamepad must be wacky as xboxdrv is showing the y and x axis constantly moving...
[16:01] <sacarlson>  mneptok mysqld defaults to localhost only but can be setup to allow other ip access control
[16:01] <Computer-01> mneptok, this is inside of the conf. : bind-address		= 127.0.0.1
[16:01] <mneptok> sacarlson: i know, that's why i asked.
[16:02] <mneptok> Computer-01: if you want access to mysqld from somehting other than localhost, you'll have to bind to an external interface
[16:03] <_Marcus> How do I chroot jail a user?
[16:03] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: how? I used sudo rmmod xbox, then sudo xboxdrv, then sudo modprobe xpad again, and still not working
[16:03] <Computer-01> mneptok, what do you mean?, how can I do that?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: run 'rmmod xpad' and then xboxdrv again or start xboxdrv with the option --detach-kernel-driver
[16:04] <mneptok> Computer-01: edit your MySQL confogs so that it binds to eth0 (or whatever) instead of the loopback interface
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: maybe the command has to be running for the device to work.....
[16:05] <Computer-01> mneptok, eth0 IP address right?
[16:05] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: "unrecognized option '--detach-kernal-driver'" I did this with sudo
[16:05] <mneptok> Computer-01: use the interface name, not IP.
[16:05] <mneptok> bbiab
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> danileigh79  kernel, not kernal
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: try:  sudo modprobe xbox --detach-kernel-driver
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: if you type invalid things, it won't work
[16:06] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: *facepalming myself
[16:07] <danileigh79> brb
[16:09] <_Marcus> Does anyone know how to set up a chroot jail?
[16:11] <lewiseason> Have you tried Google or the ubuntu forum, Marcus?
[16:11] <ikonia> _Marcus: it depends what you want to jail
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> lewiseason  don't say to 'google it' please
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> _Marcus  http://www.brudvik.org/2011/02/chrootjail-sftpscpssh-on-ubuntu/
[16:11] <_Marcus> ikonia: I want a user to not be able to even see anything outside it's home directory.
[16:12] <sacarlson> _Marcus: chroot jail? only time you change root is if you more a whole system to a new root
[16:12] <ikonia> sacarlson: nope, there are many reasons
[16:12] <urfr332gO> _Marcus, here is a ubuntu man on jail  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man8/makejail.8.html
[16:13] <ikonia> _Marcus: ok, well, you have a few options, you can try to lock the level above the home directory with permissions, this will stop the user moving out of it, but it's not a chroot lock, you could also look at a chroot shell, there is also an option with sshd to chroot jail the user
[16:13] <overclucker> When I use my bluetooth headset in duplex mode I can record audio, but I cant hear playback. Is there a fix for this?
[16:13] <sacarlson> ikonia: I don't see any user options in chroot
[16:13] <ikonia> sacarlson: that's fine, if you don't know any, I'm just informing you there are many reasons to chroot, beyond moving a root location
[16:14] <sacarlson> _Marcus: but you could just change all other file priv to not let your user see any other files but his home dir
[16:14] <magma> ubuntu server shows wich users are using the machine and mem usage when you logon though ssh. Is it possible to do the same thing with the normal ubuntu?
[16:14] <vivekimsit> How can I know that which command I ran on a particular day in my bash shell?
[16:14] <ikonia> sacarlson: a user can still "cd /"
[16:15] <ikonia> sacarlson: changing the permissions won't a lock a user into their home directory
[16:15] <oCean> vivekimsit: by default there is no timestamp in bash history file
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: it could if you make the folder not executable..
[16:15] <sacarlson> ikonia: yes he could cd but see nothing if the priv of all were like chmod 770 or at least other users couldn't see
[16:15] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no, you can still /
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: damn
[16:16] <vivekimsit>  oCean: So, is there not any solution
[16:16] <oCean> vivekimsit: when you type the  history  command in shell, you will see your recent commands, by default last 1000 I think.
[16:16] <ikonia> sacarlson: you to lock a user into their home direcotry, you're suggesting changing every single file on the systme outside his home directory to remove world permissions /
[16:17] <overclucker> I was actually hoping to be able to do my teleconference from ubuntu, instead of rebooting into windows
[16:17] <sacarlson> ikonia: yes I guess so
[16:17] <danileigh79_2> ActionParsnip, sorry, I had to take a break, I'm outside on my phone... This xbox controller is pissing me off more than having pms... *headdesk*
[16:17] <ikonia> sacarlson: may want to think that through a little more as a lot of things expect read access to certain directories
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79_2: if you type: modprobe xbox   then hit tab, does it autcomplete?
[16:18] <vivekimsit>  oCean: Ya! but the list is normally very large so, I was thinking that if there is any command to see the commands of a particular day
[16:18] <sacarlson> ikonia: that's the method I use at least on my own home dir so no one but me can see it
[16:18] <magma> ubuntu server shows wich users are using the machine and mem usage when you logon though ssh. Is it possible to do the same thing with the normal ubuntu?
[16:18] <danileigh79_2> ActionParsnip, I'll try when I go back inside, lemme finish my cigarette
[16:18] <ikonia> sacarlson: stopping someone from seeing into your home dir, as to stopping someone from moving anywhere outside their home dir is a totally different concept
[16:18] <oCean> vivekimsit: there is. Add this line  export HISTTIMEFORMAT='%F %T '  to your ~/.bashrc, then source the bashrc again
[16:18] <Mike9863> After I login my touchpad discontinues working and I'm forced to enter the command 'xinput set-int-prop 13 "Synaptics Off" 8 0' Why is this, and is there any way I can fix it?
[16:19] <vivekimsit> ok
[16:19] <lewiseason> magma: try "who"
[16:19] <sacarlson> ikonia: true but that's the only solution that's close I can come up with for _Marcus
[16:19] <xubuntu5> just write a script that runs that automatically after login?
[16:19] <magma> lewiseason: I also want to see mem usage and all the other things ubuntu server shows
[16:20] <cmcx_linux> hey guys, I have an issue with ubuntu server 11.10 latest updates , kernel 3.0.0-16-server nfs-kernel-server_1%3a1.2.4-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb. When I try to showmount -a it segfaults.
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Mike9863: as xubuntu5 said (without targetting you) have a script that runs after login to run it for you..
[16:20] <cmcx_linux> anyone lese experiencing this issue>/
[16:20] <cmcx_linux> ?
[16:20] <sacarlson> ikonia: _Marcus: how about apparmor settings?
[16:21] <ikonia> that's to stop applications being run,
[16:21] <Mike9863> ActionParsnip: I do have a script that runs at startup but the touchpad only stops working a few minutes into my session.
[16:21] <vivekimsit>  oCean: thanks! its now little bit good now
[16:21] <magma> how do I list the groups in the system?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Mike9863: what make and model is the system?
[16:22] <Mike9863> ActionParsnip: I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 on an HP Pavilion dv6
[16:23] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: danielle@danielle:~$ modprobe xpad
[16:23] <danileigh79> dpad_to_buttons      triggers_to_buttons
[16:23] <danileigh79> sticks_to_null
[16:23] <mattgman> does anybody have their computer set up so that they can stream video to their android device?
[16:23] <danileigh79> That was not meant to be a flood, sorry6
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> magma: cat /etc/group |cut -d: -f1
[16:23] <sacarlson> ikonia: _Marcus: well until a better solution I would just chmod XX0 on dir /etc  and /home  and leave the rest or maybe some /var stuf
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79xbox, not xpad...
[16:24] <magma> and adding a user to a group?
[16:24] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: sorry, mis read.... no, tabbing  modprobe xbox does not autocomplete
[16:24] <ikonia> _Marcus: that would be a terrible solution
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: gah
[16:24] <ikonia> _Marcus: simpley chroot as you intended to, this is the type of solution chroot was designed for
[16:24] <_Marcus> ikonia: I am trying this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248724
[16:25] <sacarlson> ikonia: I think your right I've seen ftp use chroot that worked
[16:25] <sacarlson> ikonia: an example would be good
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Mike9863: try:   echo "options psmouse proto=imps" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf ; sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Mike9863: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6523/touchpad-not-working-on-hp-pavilion-dv6    try these suggestions
[16:28] <Travis-42> Can I move the Unity bar to the right somehow? I've got another computer on the left which I access via synergy, and the unity bar messes with this
[16:29] <mrdeb> no i think unity is for left only
[16:29] <mrdeb> it is like android so u cannot change much
[16:29] <BlouBlou> Travis-42: You can do it by installing "compizconfig-settings-manager"
[16:29] <urfr332gO> Travis-42, I have seen a hack for the bottom but not the right.
[16:29] <Travis-42> BlouBlou, I have it installed. I see no setting to move the bar in the unity plugin
[16:29] <urfr332gO> BlouBlou, not true
[16:29] <magma> can I upgrade from 9.10 to the latest through command line?
[16:29] <ikonia> magma: yes
[16:29] <ikonia> !upgrade > magma
[16:30] <Travis-42> urfr332gO, hmm, I'll have to look up this hack, maybe I can tweak it :-/
[16:30] <BlouBlou> You're right, it's not possible to move it.
[16:30] <urfr332gO> Travis-42, it is on the web.
[16:30] <zykotick9> magma: you can't skip releases, so you'd need to upgrade 9.10->10.04->10.10->11.04->11.10.  Fresh install might be easier.
[16:30] <magma> that does not show command line
[16:30] <ikonia> magma: it does if you read it
[16:31] <magma> zykotick9: what's the command line to upgrade?
[16:31] <mrdeb> apt-get update
[16:31] <zykotick9> magma: don't know - i think upgrading ubuntu is a bad idea
[16:31] <ikonia> magma: it's listed in those links
[16:31] <zykotick9> mrdeb: nope
[16:31] <mrdeb> yes
[16:31] <mrdeb> it is apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:31] <magma> no it's not
[16:31] <mrdeb> huh
[16:31] <magma> zykotick9: why is a bad idea?
[16:31] <mrdeb> it is good to upgrade
[16:32] <m4k> How to create ubuntu alternate cd from scratch
[16:32] <zykotick9> magma: just a personal opinion - i've seen to many upgrade issues
[16:32] <jonb123> I hate to be a bother but I'm using this software for the first time can i add different IRC channels
[16:32] <magma> mrdeb: that does not perform a upgrade to a next release
[16:32] <BlouBlou> magma: You can do it, but it will take long
[16:32] <magma> zykotick9: if I install the latest will I keep the data in /home ?
[16:32] <psypher246> i have upgraded with no issues between 4 veersion and had no issues and have upgraded between one version and had issues, it's a mixed bag, backup important stuff and try it out, no harm then
[16:32] <mrdeb> no
[16:32] <BlouBlou> a long time, and... a lot of apps may fail
[16:32] <zykotick9> magma: only if /home is on a separate partition
[16:32] <BlouBlou> I wouldn't do it, fresh install is better
[16:32] <zykotick9> magma: which isn't default
[16:33] <psypher246> but it is a thing of beauty to upgrade and having no issues
[16:33] <psypher246> did it remotely as well
[16:33] <jonb123> nvm
[16:34] <m4k> How to create ubuntu alternate cd from scratch
[16:35] <Timecop> Server:  UnKnown
[16:35] <Timecop> Address:  192.168.0.100
[16:35] <Timecop> *** UnKnown can't find ns.homelinux.com: Server failed
[16:36] <ikonia> your dns is still not setup correctly
[16:36] <TheSimkin> hey guys, where can i find a log of what's been happening with apt?
[16:36] <adom> hi all
[16:36] <Timecop> same thing like that
[16:36] <TheSimkin> for some reason my nvidia driver got unloaded??
[16:36] <Computer-01> mneptok, I assigned 0.0.0.0 in the IP, now I can connect using my COMPUTER IP, but I still cannot connect from an external IP.
[16:36] <Timecop> lol
[16:36] <m4k> How to create ubuntu alternate cd from scratch
[16:36] <ikonia> m4k: you don't
[16:36] <adom> lost my top and bottom toolbars (10.04, default gnome 2 install)...what should i do to get them back?
[16:37] <m4k> Why
[16:37] <adom> tried restarting x11-common - no luck
[16:37] <zykotick9> adom: try running "gnome-panel" if you can
[16:37] <ikonia> m4k: it's quite a complex process
[16:37] <oCean> TheSimkin: see /var/log/apt directory
[16:37] <ikonia> m4k: there is no need for you to do it, it's already be done for you
[16:37] <TheSimkin> oCean: i've been there.. but nothing about nvidia is in there.. kinda weird!?
[16:37] <m4k> Ikonia: any documentations
[16:37] <ikonia> m4k: not that I'm aware of
[16:38] <TheSimkin> oCean: is there a cli version of the "restricted drivers" interface?
[16:38] <sacarlson> adom: worst case create a new user and login to that one, then you can copy the files created when the new user was made back to the other user home dir
[16:38] <adom> zykotick9: nothing happens when i run that
[16:38] <TheSimkin> oCean: if now, how an i install the nvidia driver from cli?
[16:38] <adom> sacarlson: dont think all thats necessary, a restart would bring them back, but i didnt want to restart
[16:38] <adom> wait
[16:38] <mneptok> Computer-01: you need to bind mysld to whatever IP address is going to be used for connections to the database. and 0.0.0.0 is not a valid IP.
[16:38] <adom> zykotick9: that gnome-panel worked, just took awhile
[16:38] <sacarlson> adom: can you just logout login then?
[16:39] <m4k> Ikonia Already done?
[16:39] <adom> sacarlson: yeah but had a bunch of windows open wanted to avoid that
[16:39] <zykotick9> adom: :)
[16:39] <adom> zykotick9's method worked thanks everyone
[16:39] <ikonia> m4k: you can download the alternative CD - you don't need to make it
[16:39] <oCean> TheSimkin: anything you install through software center, you can alos use  apt-cache search  and  sudo apt-get install <package>
[16:39] <mneptok> Computer-01: you are trying to form connections to that DB server from machines other than the localhost. the daemon needs to know where to listen.
[16:39] <Computer-01> mneptok, If no address or 0.0.0.0 is specified, the server listens on all interfaces.
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> m4k  are you asfal from earlier today?
[16:39] <sacarlson> adom: I don't think a restart will fix it but I've been wrong many times before
[16:40] <mneptok> Computer-01: in theory, yes. but i would try an actual physical address before anything else.
[16:40] <sacarlson> adom: what you see when you logout login is same as you should see when you restart
[16:40] <mostlygentoo> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/server-options.html#option_mysqld_bind-address
[16:40] <TheSimkin> oCean: how do i know which nvidia driver is the right one?  it's a bit confusing.
[16:40] <m4k> Ikonia: this sound is bad give some help. I ready to hard work
[16:40] <ikonia> m4k: what ?
[16:41] <oCean> TheSimkin: I have no clue about the nvidia drivers, never used them
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> m4k  start here => http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization -- http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[16:42] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: If you're around, I need to head out for a bit... Thanks for your help, and when I get back I'll try some of the other things in the help forum
[16:42] <m4k> MonkeyDust:yes ;-)
[16:42] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: stop giving people Linux from scratch links, it is NOTHING to do with building a CD
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> ikonia  sorry, it's the word 'scratch' the guy is asking for
[16:43] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: so do you even check the links you offer or do you just give links that contain the words mentioned in the question ?
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> ikonia  the guy keeps hammering on the word 'from scratch', that's what i found
[16:44] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: do you even know what Linux From Scratch is ?
[16:45] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: just because the project contains the word "from scratch" does not mean it has any relevence to what is being asked
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> i won't advice it again
[16:47] <Computer-01> mneptok, now I cannot connect =.= not even using localhost.
[16:48] <Computer-01> mneptok, using mysql-admin
[16:48] <sacarlson> Computer-01: can you see mysql runing with ps -A
[16:48] <ikonia> how about asking "what is the error message"
[16:49] <ikonia> and "what is the exact command you are running to connect"
[16:49] <magma> what is the interface that uses less memory?
[16:49] <Computer-01> sacarlson, no.
[16:49] <magma> I use unity
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> magma: LXDE
[16:49] <sacarlson> Computer-01: then I guess it's not running, so you must have changed the config and it errored out at restart
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> magma: XFCE
[16:50] <magma> thanks
[16:50] <Pici> magma: lxde, xfce, any of the *box desktops.
[16:50] <Computer-01> sacarlson, how can I check this, since I believe that I changed this conf. back
[16:50] <Mike9863> ActionParsnip: Is there a way to revert what those touchpad commands you gave me did? Now my touchpad speed is slower and multi touch is not working.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> magma: you can get xfce by installing xfce4, log off then log into xfce session, LXDE can be installed by installing lxde package
[16:51] <sacarlson> Computer-01: you can look in /var/log  and find mysql and see what the error might be
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Mike9863: delete the /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf    then reboot
[16:51] <Mike9863> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[16:51] <magma> ActionParsnip: what is thanks
[16:51] <magma> thanks, I mean
[16:51] <sacarlson> Computer-01: maybe in this file /var/log/mysql/error.log
[16:52] <Computer-01> sacarlson, mysql.err and mysql.log are empty
[16:52] <sacarlson> Computer-01: oh then try restart mysql
[16:52] <sacarlson> Computer-01: that should also show an error in the term as it starts if any
[16:53] <magma> how can I kill a user via SSH that is logged in
[16:53] <Computer-01> sacarlson, 120220 12:38:11 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown complete
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> magma: np man
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> magma: is there only one connected?
[16:53] <magma> yes
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> magma: stop the ssh service will do it ;)
[16:53] <Computer-01> sacarlson, start: Job is already running: mysq
[16:54] <magma> ActionParsnip: but I«m connected through ssh too
[16:54] <Computer-01> sacarlson, and still cannot connect... :/
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> magma: you said there was only one connected, when there are two....
[16:54] <magma> sorry, he left is session opened in the machine
[16:54] <sacarlson> Computer-01: oh it was running, ok can't connect how?  command line
[16:54] <magma> and I'm the only via SSH
[16:55] <Computer-01> sacarlson, Using mysql-admin
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> magma: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=924837
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> magma: killall -u username
[16:55] <Deihmos> is the new version any better than 11.10?
[16:55] <oCean> Deihmos: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (still alpha). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: new version of what?
[16:55] <Computer-01> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2), sacarlson
[16:56] <sacarlson> Computer-01: don't you have phpmyadmin installed?
[16:56] <undecim> Where do I find reports on the scripts executed by cron from /etc/cron.hourly ?
[16:56] <Deihmos> ubuntu. thought it was beta
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: all softwares in Ubuntu have a version..
[16:56] <Deihmos> 11.10 was just bad to me \
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: if you are talking about Precise (Ubuntu 12.04) then please ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: if you dislike Unity, install Xubuntu :D
[16:56] <magma> nice
[16:58] <Computer-01> sacarlson, no.
[16:59] <k013> hi, if i'm running ubuntu on dual boot with windows can i upgrade to a newer release through windows itself? will such an operation delete all my old ubuntu content?
[16:59] <sacarlson> Computer-01: sorry I haven't use this mysql-admin in some time is seems to work for me as I just put in localhost and user and password
[16:59] <t4nk340> the partitioning on disk /dev/sda is not readable by partition tool parted what i can do to solve this problem?
[16:59] <TheSimkin> k013: not really, you need to be able to run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[17:00] <TheSimkin> k013: you could use a virtual machine like vbox to start up your ubuntu will running windows.  but it's considered 'advanced'
[17:00] <Lint> k013, DON'T do that id you're usinf wubi install
[17:00] <sacarlson> Computer-01: and as you said it worked before to some degree I assume you edited something and forgot to backup what you changed so complete remove and reinstall to get it back to original?
[17:01] <Computer-01> Hmm, but I dont remember making a deep reconfiguration, I Didnt back up thats right... but oh well..
[17:01] <k013> @thesimkin - that's the thing - ur askin me to upgrade via update manager, but i want to upgrade from iso image via wubi/ deamon tools
[17:01] <Computer-01> Hmm, but I dont remember making a deep reconfiguration, I Didnt back up thats right... but oh well.., sacarlson
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> k013: you'd upgrade ubuntu in Ubuntu.
[17:01] <oCean> Computer-01: hang on
[17:02] <TheSimkin> k013: so use virtualbox to start ubuntu up in a virtual machine, it's the only way
[17:02] <sacarlson> Computer-01: you already tried restarting mysql right?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> k013: did you use Wubi?
[17:02] <TheSimkin> k013: if you wheren't running garbage (windows) but another linux distro you could just chroot.
[17:02] <oCean> Computer-01: on commandline try  sudo netstat -anp |grep 3306
[17:02] <TheSimkin> k013: but if you use garbage I can't help you!
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> TheSimkin: you can chroot with wubi, its just not easy at all
[17:03] <TheSimkin> oh yah. go ta guide for that?
[17:03] <sacarlson> oCean: Computer-01: ya that will show if mysql is listening
[17:03] <TheSimkin> how would you mount a ext4 file system in windows to get to the point of chrooting?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> TheSimkin: you need to mount the NTFS as writable, you can then mount the file. A quick bit of websearching would show this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1007816.html
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> TheSimkin: but you already knew that, right?
[17:04] <TheSimkin> no, i don't use windows at all.
[17:04] <sacarlson> TheSimkin: I don't think windows has chroot but it does have 3rd party software to mount ext4 file systems
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> TheSimkin: you mount it in liveCD
[17:04] <TheSimkin> well, not unless i can help it.
[17:04] <compdoc> havent seen a way to mount ext4 in windows, but maybe there is a way
[17:04] <TheSimkin> i use windows in a virtual machine only.
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> TheSimkin: me neither, I just know how to find guides
[17:05] <compdoc> then use samba
[17:05] <TheSimkin> i guess i need to check out wubi
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> TheSimkin: the vast maority of the stuff I helpusers with, I don't even use myself
[17:05] <TheSimkin> later...
[17:05] <Computer-01> sacarlson, uhmm I tried restarting it.... but it says the same.... and the command that oCean wrote it replies nothing
[17:05] <oCean> Computer-01: in that case, if nothing returns, it is not running
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> TheSimkin: like the guy with the xbox controller. I don't even play games or own an xbox but I gave some good pointers and found some guides
[17:05] <sacarlson> compdoc: it's not default to have windows mount ext4 but you can download some software that has worked in the past
[17:05] <k013> ok - see theoretically i download iso image then load to deamon tools the wubi manager asks me for install details - the question is at this moment can i say upgrade instead of install - so i'm guessin this one is for actionparsnip and lint
[17:06] <Computer-01> oCean But I run the command to make it
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> k013: i'd reinstall if you used wubi, I've heard bad results from upgrades
[17:06] <k013> cool - as long it works
[17:06] <sacarlson> Computer-01: so it's not listening then or at least not on that port
[17:06] <k013> will the reinstall delete all data
[17:07] <oCean> Computer-01: is  there a file called /var/run/mysql/mysqld.sock?
[17:07] <sacarlson> Computer-01: what command did you use to restart mysql?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> k013: i'd remove what you have presently, you can reinstate files and such from backup
[17:07] <Computer-01> sacarlson, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[17:07] <Computer-01> oCean, let me checl
[17:08] <sacarlson> Computer-01: that sounds good
[17:08] <TheSimkin> k013: curious.. why don't you just boot ubuntu and upgrade it?
[17:08] <Computer-01> oCean, no there isnt....
[17:08] <TheSimkin> k013: although.. dual booting is a real pain... even better, why not use virtual machines?
[17:09] <k013> @actionparsnip - ok then why are some people so afraid to upgrade directly - they say iso reinstalls are better!
[17:09] <sacarlson> oCean: Computer-01: you did use a standard ubuntu package to install mysql right?
[17:09] <ikonia> Computer-01: just start mysql "correctly" this time
[17:09] <TheSimkin> k013: better how?
[17:09] <Computer-01> sacarlson, oCean yes
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> k013: its a cleaner OS with none of the old configs could be the cause. I always clean install. Fewer issues imho
[17:10] <k013> @thesimkin - check that answer!
[17:10] <TheSimkin> ActionParsnip & k013, that's silly imho.  apt-get dist-upgrade is just fine!
[17:10] <sacarlson> Computer-01: ikonia: correctly?  oh maybe restart instead of start?
[17:10] <ikonia> sacarlson: no
[17:10] <ikonia> sacarlson: if you don't know how to do something - don't offer advice
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> TheSimkin: that won't get you to the next release
[17:10] <ikonia> Computer-01: ok - lets fix this, are you ready ?
[17:11] <loganrun> why did ubuntu ditch gnome
[17:11] <TheSimkin> ActionParsnip: update-manager fixes that.
[17:11] <sacarlson> ikonia: that's the method I've been using maybe not upstart but it works
[17:11] <ikonia> loganrun: they are running gnome still, just using their own shell (unity) instead of gnome-shell
[17:11] <Computer-01> ikonia, please
[17:11] <ikonia> sacarlson: correct, it won't work with upstart, it won't work
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> TheSimkin: sure, but the user wants the next release. so sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   won't do it
[17:11] <ikonia> Computer-01: ok, "sudo service mysql start"
[17:12] <loganrun> ikonia, what is the advantage of that?
[17:12] <Computer-01> ikonia, start: Job is already running: mysql
[17:12] <ikonia> loganrun: it works how canonical wants it to run
[17:12] <petoo> help!
[17:12] <ikonia> Computer-01: ok - so "ps -ef | grep mysqld" please output the pastebin
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> ask away petoo
[17:12] <petoo> couldnt find svn in packages
[17:13] <k013> @actionparsnip and thesimkin - there was a discussion happening at the tails download page - the guys there kept repeating that the iso download reinstall is better than update manager
[17:13] <Computer-01> ikonia, only one line, 1000      5296  5114  0 13:13 pts/1    00:00:00 grep --color=auto mysqld
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> k013: its not outright better, its a personaly preference
[17:13] <ikonia> Computer-01: ok, "sudo mysql stop"
[17:13] <sacarlson> ikonia: so I'm wrong or I'm right with /etc/init.d/mysql restart ?
[17:13] <ikonia> sacarlson: wrong
[17:13] <Computer-01> ikonia, ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> !info subversion | petoo
[17:14] <ikonia> Computer-01: ok, ls -la /var/run/mysqld
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: sudo servce servicename start|stop|reload|etc
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: e.g.    sudo service smbd stop     will stop the samba service
[17:15] <Computer-01> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/G7cg6AAk
[17:15] <sacarlson> ikonia: funny ActionParsnip ikonia: Computer-01: ok I failed to add sudo  sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[17:15] <ikonia> sacarlson: NO
[17:16] <sacarlson> ikonia: sorry I'm still runing ubuntu 10.04
[17:16] <petoo> ActionParsnip, what does that mean? I want to install svn and I cannot find it in repository
[17:16] <sacarlson> ikonia: it still works on that
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> petoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion   may help
[17:16] <petoo> Thanks
[17:16] <ikonia> Computer-01: ok, so the process is not running, and the socket file is not there
[17:16] <k013> @thesimkin - virtual box was a pain in my earlier machine, new one is good, will use it for all linux OS tests! windows(garbage) required for office (in the real world)
[17:17] <zykotick9> sacarlson: you are using a deprecated method (sysv) - update your processes to the upstart method (see "/msg ubottu wfm")
[17:17] <TheSimkin> k013: put windows in the vm :)
[17:17] <sacarlson> zykotick9: sorry I'm old school
[17:17] <Computer-01> ikonia, Strange..... I did not remove it.
[17:17] <loganrun> does anyone know if it is possible to change the order of the icons on the task launcher bar in unity?
[17:17] <ikonia> Computer-01: what I'd suggest doing is rebooting to get a clean slate - then lets move forward
[17:18] <petoo> Computer-01, is facing similar problem which I was facing about 4-5 hours back
[17:18] <ikonia> Computer-01: I wasn't paying attention as to what you where doing earlier
[17:18] <TheSimkin> k013: have you tried LibreOffice and/or google docs?
[17:18] <Computer-01> ikonia, reboot the system?
[17:19] <ikonia> Computer-01: yes
[17:19] <Computer-01> ikonia, Okey brb
[17:19] <ikonia> Computer-01: then lets move forward
[17:20] <k013> @thesimkin - i use ubuntu at home - talking to u now from ubuntu - at home its libre everything -  in the office, its manager and proprietary everything
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> loganrun: click and hold the icon, wait a few seconds, then drag it where you want
[17:21] <loganrun> ActionParsnip, ha that was easy thanks
[17:21] <ikonia> Computer-01: hi there
[17:21] <antnya> Hello, how is everyone?
[17:21] <Computer-01> ikonia, hi :)
[17:21] <rattatoue> Cant complain here antnya, you?
[17:22] <ikonia> Computer-01: ok - so lets have look at moving this forward.
[17:22] <Computer-01> ikonia, please...
[17:22] <antnya> Good, thank you rattatoue.
[17:22] <ikonia> Computer-01: ok, ls -la /var/run/mysqld
[17:22] <shammancer> Hello all. I have a file bar over my desktop. Is there a way to remove it. This is using cinnamon
[17:23] <antnya> Just confused about installing Ubuntu 11.10 alongside W7/64.... had trouble twice with GRUB crashing my W7 boot.
[17:23] <sln45> Do any of y'all know the name of the cursor process? It's stuck on loading mode and it's very irritating.
[17:23] <christinepea777> hrm
[17:23] <Roasted_> hello! I'm curious if somebody can help me with ssh authentication between two ubuntu systems. I'm not that familiar with public/private keys other than the real basics. I know I have to do ssh-keygen to create the keys, but then what? I'm trying to create a secure connection from an Ubuntu system outside of my LAN to my file server within my LAN.
[17:23] <sln45> Or can I reload the unity session to reset my cursor?
[17:23] <jadoe> is there an up to date guide for getting the ps3 bluetooth remote to work? the instructions i found so far (e.g. in the mythtv wiki) don't work anymore.
[17:23] <ikonia> Roasted_: what's up ?
[17:23] <Computer-01> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/NQJkaztB
[17:23] <nbrowning> hi there trying to do a hardy to lucid upgrade and am having some problems install package upgrades before i begin
[17:23] <k013> @actionparsnip - any movement in the temperature control side for 12.04 - 11.10 is really bad for laptop temperature
[17:23] <ikonia> Computer-01: socket file is there - GREAT
[17:23] <ikonia> Computer-01: try to access it
[17:23] <Roasted_> ikonia, well, really just the basics of the entire method behind this. Like if I run ssh-keygen, am I doing this on my file server, or the client system outside of the LAN?
[17:24] <tumppu> antnya alt+f2 and then "pkill unity"
[17:24] <rattatoue> antnya, Ive always done it this way of just splitting two partitions. One W7 then make sure theres unallocated space for your ubuntu. Launch the installer go through the normal when it ask you to do the partition. Click Ubuntu Alongside Windows and it will install into that unallocated space and use that for the ubuntu. And then reboot and it should have no problem starting the W7 or Ubuntu
[17:24] <trism> shammancer: I believe that is caused by appmenu, you can probably safely remove indicator-appmenu and appmenu-gtk since cinnamon won't use it anyway (I believe they recently reverted the patch that worked around it in nautilus)
[17:24] <Computer-01> ikonia, Yes! I cannot connect using mysql-admin
[17:24] <Computer-01> can*
[17:24] <Computer-01> ikonia, , Can connect*
[17:24] <ikonia> Roasted_: really simple, ssh-keygen (man it - and chose your options) public key put in the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file on the server - private key, keep on your local machine, ssh $user@$server, enter private key password, you are done
[17:24] <sacarlson> Computer-01: cool just a reboot
[17:25] <ikonia> Roasted_: make sure the ~/.ssh/authorized_key file on the server has 600 permissions
[17:25] <naija> #exit
[17:25] <Computer-01> sacarlson, indeed.... :D
[17:25] <antnya> Okay, that seems good to me rattatoue. Just use Windows partition manager?
[17:25] <ikonia> Computer-01: what is the command you are using exactly
[17:25] <Roasted_> ikonia, I was under the impression I was to copy the public key physically off of that system and onto the client system outside of the LAN.
[17:25] <DeltaSaucer> Do Arch Linux and Ubuntu Linux boot up with an IRC client that connects to their freenode channels or something? So many damn users...
[17:25] <Computer-01> ikonia, administrator@administrator-desktop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[17:25] <ikonia> Roasted_: correct, public key onto the destination server, in the .ssh directory in their home file, and put the contents into a file called "authorized keys"
[17:25] <ikonia> Computer-01: no, to connect
[17:25] <FrancoOFranco> irc:///music
[17:25] <rattatoue> antnya, yeah you can just use that and use the resize option. The new partition it makes dont format or anything, just leave it alone and then do the thing in Ubuntu and it will use that partition.
[17:26] <rattatoue> antnya, I did that exact thing last night the way I told you, only using the Windows Resize and here I am :) both working just fine.
[17:26] <ikonia> Roasted_: authorized_keys sorry, hit spoace by accident
[17:26] <Computer-01> ikonia, I am using Mysql-Admin: It is an User Interface...
[17:26] <antnya> Interesting. That is what I did in the past and had little luck. It still wrecked my bootloader.
[17:26] <ikonia> Computer-01: ok - forget that for the moment
[17:26] <ikonia> Computer-01: open a terminal, can you do that ?
[17:26] <Roasted_> ikonia, just to recap... ssh-keygen on server, find the public key, copy it to the client. Then the client should be able to SSH in without asking for a pw. correct?
[17:26] <Computer-01> ikonia, sure.
[17:26] <ikonia> Roasted_: ssh keygen on client,
[17:26] <Roasted_> oh..
[17:26] <ikonia> Roasted_: that creates public and private keys
[17:26] <nbrowning> hi there
[17:27] <nbrowning> any help with the following problem http://pastebin.com/A6wGaKDY
[17:27] <Roasted_> ikonia, see, I did that, and Ithought I did it wrong. I found it so backwards to do it from the client and successfully SSH into it with ZERO server input. It confused me....
[17:27] <ikonia> Roasted_: private key in your .ssh directory (call the file id_dsa or or_rsa depending on encyrption)
[17:27] <ikonia> Roasted_: put the contents (not the file - the contents) into a file called "authorized_keys" on the server, in the users home directory/.ssh
[17:27] <ikonia> Roasted_: change the permissions of the authorized_key file to 600 on the server, bang you are done
[17:27] <ikonia> Computer-01: on the command line type this
[17:27] <ikonia> Computer-01: "mysql -u root -p"
[17:28] <ikonia> Computer-01: it will prompt you for the MYSQL root user (not system root user) password
[17:28] <Roasted_> ikonia, so in essence I was looking at it 100% backwards. I generate the keys on client, and move the private key contents to server.... whereas I thought I would keygen on server, and move public to client....
[17:28] <Computer-01> ikonia, yes I logged in.
[17:28] <ikonia> Computer-01: enter the root password
[17:28] <ikonia> Roasted_: public key contents tot he server
[17:28] <ikonia> Roasted_: private key stays safe on the client
[17:28] <ikonia> Computer-01: ok - then the problem is nothing to do with mysql
[17:28] <Computer-01> ikonia, Yes I did.
[17:28] <ikonia> Computer-01: the problem is your mysql-admin tools it not setup correctly
[17:28] <Roasted_> ikonia, >_<
[17:28] <Computer-01> ikonia, I can log in with mysql-admin
[17:28] <k013> hi guys, any movement in the temperature control side for 12.04 - 11.10 is really bad for laptop temperature
[17:29] <ikonia> Computer-01: great, problem solved then
[17:29] <Computer-01> ikonia, but please help me with this
[17:29] <ikonia> Roasted_: want to do this step by step ?
[17:29] <ikonia> Computer-01: help you with what ?
[17:29] <Computer-01> ikonia, I am trying to connect from other pc on the network to this pc mysql.
[17:29] <ikonia> Computer-01: you've just said it works
[17:29] <antnya> Hmmmmmm.
[17:29] <Roasted_> ikonia, eh, I'm trying it out on my own, but I'm still very gray about it. Hate to be a bug though.
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> nbrowning: what is the output of: apt-cache policy apache2-prefork-dev
[17:29] <Computer-01> ikonia, that problem just came by but it was not my real problem
[17:29] <ikonia> Computer-01: the reason that is not working is the connection permissions are "root @ localhost"
[17:29] <Roasted_> ikonia, youtube videos weren't as explicit as I had hoped :(
[17:30] <ikonia> Roasted_: want to walk through this - it will take 5 minutes max, it's really easy
[17:30] <Computer-01> ikonia, How can I fix this?
[17:30] <Roasted_> ikonia, if you wouldn't mind...
[17:30] <ikonia> Computer-01: you need to create a new user, or grant permissions to root@your-remote-host-name-or-ip
[17:30] <nbrowning> ActionParsnip, output here or pastbin?
[17:30] <ikonia> Roasted_: lets do the client first, got a terminal open ?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> nbrowning: pastebin please
[17:30] <shammancer> trism That does not seem to work
[17:31] <Roasted_> ikonia, sure do
[17:31] <nbrowning> http://pastebin.com/JeJ6q6DJ
[17:31] <Computer-01> ikonia, any tutorial about this?
[17:31] <ikonia> Computer-01: no
[17:31] <shammancer> the bar is still there
[17:32] <Computer-01> ikonia, real quick... teach me how to do it?
[17:32] <bc81> nbrowning: there are some steps you could try here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/sub-process-usr-bin-dpkg-returned-an-error-code-1-a-171107/
[17:32] <Zerpex> Is there any way I can see in the terminal, what my computer specs is?
[17:32] <ikonia> Roasted_: ok, "ssh-keygen -b 2048 "
[17:32] <trism> shammancer: did you restart your session?
[17:32] <ikonia> Computer-01: sorry no
[17:32] <shammancer> yup
[17:32] <vlt> Zerpex: lshw, /proc/cpuinfo, ...
[17:33] <Computer-01> ikonia, okey many thanks
[17:33] <zykotick9> shammancer:  trism cinnamon shouldn't really be supported here, as it's not in Ubuntu proper.  Perhaps the mint channel could help?
[17:33] <nbrowning> bc81: taking a look, thank you
[17:33] <ikonia> Roasted_: that should create two files, a public and a private key in your current working directory
[17:33] <Roasted_> ikonia, just enter/enter/enter thruogh the prompts?
[17:33] <shammancer> Maybe
[17:33] <ikonia> Roasted_: yeah, set a password though
[17:34] <ikonia> Roasted_: you want your key to be passworded
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Zerpex: sudo lshw | less
[17:34] <shammancer> They are on freenode?
[17:34] <ikonia> Roasted_: the prompts are pretty self explanintory, so if you want to change something to match your needs, please do so
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Zerpex: you can use lshw-gtk   if you want a GUI app
[17:34] <zykotick9> !mint | shammancer nope
[17:34] <AdminPC-TB2012> Hey everyone I was wondering about if ubuntu is good with arm I installed it before and it just deed not work that much it was lagey alot of times what am I doing wrong
[17:34] <AdminPC-TB2012> AMD
[17:35] <ikonia> AdminPC-TB2012: not very mature
[17:35] <trism> shammancer: sorry don't know then, I don't see it in gnome shell and that fixed it for me (you are talking about the file/edit/... menu on the desktop right?)
[17:35] <AdminPC-TB2012> who like the xfce shell
[17:35] <HoNgOuRu> hi, how do I install svn ??? sudo apt-get install svn can't find svn, Im using ubuntu 11.10,
[17:35] <ikonia> AdminPC-TB2012: what does that matter who likes it ?
[17:36] <ikonia> HoNgOuRu: apt-cache search svn
[17:36] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[17:36] <ikonia> HoNgOuRu: then get the correct package name and apt-get install it
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: xfce is a desktop, not a shell
[17:37] <HoNgOuRu> ikonia, is that command similar to aptitude search ?
[17:37] <AdminPC-TB2012> wow I know the shell of the desktop am I saying that right or am I saying something different sorry ActionParsnip Am new to ubuntu
[17:37] <ikonia> HoNgOuRu: yes
[17:37] <zykotick9> HoNgOuRu: "apt-cache search ^subversion" perhaps
[17:37] <HoNgOuRu> or will it give different results?
[17:37] <HoNgOuRu> ok, thank u
[17:38] <HoNgOuRu> I found what I was looking for, thanks
[17:38] <bc81> AdminPC-TB2012: xfce is good enough..i use it on a pentium III w/ 128MB ram, though there are more lightweight environments if that's what you're after
[17:38] <Zerpex> lol, I'm getting a Internal Error 500 when running phpinfo();
[17:38] <craigbass1976> What's the equivalent of C:\Program Files in Linux?  I'm trying to find some Firefox files but I don't know as they're there to find.  I did a find / -name *fontEncoding.properties after reading this: http://nothing.golddave.com/2006/07/27/getting-symbol-fonts-to-display-in-firefox/ but can't see it.
[17:39] <xLexi> /usr/bin
[17:39] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to make a code 39 barcode font work in a browser
[17:39] <Roasted_> ikonia, now that the keygen is made, what should my plan of action be?
[17:39] <ikonia> Roasted_: ok, you have a public and a private key, yes no ?
[17:39] <rattatoue> craigbass1976, try whereis firefox or whereis mozilla-firefox
[17:39] <craigbass1976> xLexi, I thought /usr/bin was just binary files?
[17:39] <AdminPC-TB2012> Yes I know I like Xfce it a good plateform of desktop encirement I just got done download ubuntu 10.04 can I run xfce on that if I type in sudo apt-get install xfce4
[17:39] <zykotick9> craigbass1976: /usr/bin is just the binaries
[17:40] <Roasted_> ikonia, would it be in .ssh?
[17:40] <sacarlson> Computer-01: seems from what I found all that is needed for remote access is to comment out the line #bind-address = 127.0.0.1 in /etc/mysql/my.conf and restart but I think you already tried that
[17:40] <nbrowning> Do you think I can perform an upgrade from hardy to lucid without upgrading those packages?  Won't it just install a newer version of apache?
[17:40] <k013> @actionparsnip, lint, thesimkin - thank you and bye!
[17:40] <ikonia> Roasted_: should be in your current working directory (unless you told it to put it somewhere else)
[17:40] <nbrowning> Like apache 2.2.14
[17:40] <sacarlson> Computer-01: as seen in this post http://blog.vinhkhoa.com/article/Set-up-a-Railo-Apache-MySQL-host-on-Ubuntu-Part-2-install-MySQL-and-enable-remote-access
[17:40] <bc81> AdminPC-TB2012: i think so, yea..then when you log in i'm pretty sure you can choose the xfce session
[17:41] <paraprpar> Installing 11.10, the only partition with a lot of space is 237gb with 200gb free, yet in the install page where I choose "something different" it is also the only partition it won't let me resize, it says "unknown", why is this?
[17:41] <Roasted_> ikonia, I'm not seeing anything besides typical home dir folders.
[17:41] <ikonia> Roasted_: did it ask you for output file names ?
[17:41] <AdminPC-TB2012> Okay so I can pick the opion for xfce on the login screen
[17:41] <Roasted_> ikonia, besides pw, I just enter'd everything else
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> nbrowning: your paste link is bad dude
[17:42] <ikonia> Roasted_: look in .ssh
[17:42] <Zerpex> Hi guys, atm I'm getting: Connection reset by peer: mod_fcgid: error reading data from FastCGI server." - does anybody know what that can be?
[17:42] <ikonia> Roasted_: ~/.ssh
[17:42] <paraprpar> Is this something microsoft have deliberately asked oems to do - so that the most space looks unusable to linux?
[17:42] <Roasted_> id_rsa, id_rsa.pub, yeah ikonia
[17:42] <bc81> paraprpar: what is the partition's filesystem?
[17:42] <ikonia> Roasted_: you sould have id_rsa and id_rsa.pub
[17:42] <ikonia> Roasted_: great, your id_rsa is your private key, guard it with your life
[17:42] <nbrowning> ActionParsnip: try this one http://pastebin.com/icLprJja
[17:42] <ikonia> Roasted_: your .public key, copy that onto your remote server, to the ~/.ssh directory
[17:42] <paraprpar> bc81: /dev/sda3, type:blank, mountpoint: blank, size:237gb, used, unknown
[17:43] <paraprpar> sda1 and sda2 have ntfs they say
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> nbrowning: are you using server (no desktop UI)?
[17:43] <paraprpar> my guess Microsoft have deliberately done something non-standard to break things
[17:43] <Roasted_> ikonia, that's where I copy the contents, but not the entire .pub itself, right?
[17:43] <nbrowning> no UI yes
[17:43] <ikonia> Roasted_: as this is the first key, we'll copy the whole file (you'll see why, it will make sense in a moment)
[17:43] <bc81> paraprpar: i'm thinking that it might need to be formatted first (i recommend the ext4 filesystem)
[17:43] <ikonia> Roasted_: copy the physical file (.pub) to ~/.ssh on the remote server
[17:43] <paraprpar> bc81: aaah. wait. it is a truecrypt drive - maybe that is it
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> nbrowning: are there any bugs reported?
[17:44] <bc81> paraprpar: hmm..that might be why yea heh
[17:44] <nbrowning> ActionParsnip: not that i know of
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> nbrowning: i'd check, may be a known issue
[17:44] <nbrowning> ActionParsnip: it worked on another machine fine
[17:44] <paraprpar> I wanted to keep windows. not that I use it, that's why I am such a noob now, I have literally not touched a windows machine for years, and now I have this windows 7 thing on this laptop, and I just need to install 1 linux lib and 1 windows lib that I can test an app from my dev machine (osx)
[17:45] <AdminPC-TB2012> 4 min until the update is finish is there an opion for me if I type sudo apt-get install div upgrade will the make it to ubuntu 11.10 or which one is the current one lol:)
[17:45] <nbrowning> ActionParsnip: I'm tempted to uninstall and reinstall
[17:45] <paraprpar> fusk it, I will blow windows out, and use another winblows machine when I might need to test the lib.
[17:45] <bc81> paraprpar: have you considered using virtualbox for testing?
[17:45] <Lint> !mature
[17:45] <rattatoue> bc81, I was just about to suggest that
[17:45] <rattatoue> Windows in Virtualbox works good.
[17:45] <ikonia> Roasted_: you following ok ?
[17:46] <Roasted_> ikonia, yeah, just trying to push the pub over to server.
[17:46] <AdminPC-TB2012> am running vmware player for testing and it work grate I work with virtual box and it just laggey
[17:46] <Roasted_> ikonia, the hdd I have shared on my router is being a brat.
[17:46] <ikonia> Roasted_: that's fine, just checking your ok
[17:47] <bc81> rattatoue: he left right before i said that :)  *sigh
[17:47] <churchill> hi. Is there a way to install Ubuntu to a partition without rebooting ?
[17:47] <Roasted_> ikonia, maybe it was nautilus. gnome 3 just crashed and reset on my laptop. haaa??
[17:47] <ikonia> churchill: no, you will need to reboot
[17:47] <uni4dfx> Where can I ask for more information regarding ApplicationIndicators ?
[17:47] <AdminPC-TB2012> if I type sudo apt-get install dev upgrade will that go to ubuntu 11.10
[17:47] <Roasted_> ikonia, copied over. are we done??
[17:48] <ikonia> Roasted_: very close
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:48]  * uKi` downloading ubuntu 64 bit :D
[17:48] <ikonia> Roasted_: now, change the file name on the remote server from "id_rsa.pub" to "authorized_keys"
[17:48] <bc81> !ask | uni4dfx
[17:48] <Roasted_> ikonia, done
[17:48] <ikonia> Roasted_: normally the plan is to copy the contents of id_rsa.pub to the file authorized_keys, but as this is your only / first key, it's easier to just rename it
[17:48] <ikonia> Roasted_: change the permissions on it to 600
[17:49] <ikonia> Roasted_: change permissions on authorized_keys to 600
[17:49] <Roasted_> ikonia, can I throw out a curve ball first?
[17:49] <ikonia> Roasted_: please
[17:49] <AdminPC-TB2012> ActionParsnip: sorry can't help there new in ubuntu just wondering how to upgrade to ubuntu 11.10
[17:49] <uni4dfx> alright bc81: Where can I find the source code of ApplicationIndicators included in Ubuntu?
[17:50] <Roasted_> ikonia, there will be a total of 4 systems connecting to this server via ssh. Each user will be backing their files up to it with an automated program, etiher syncback or deja dup depending on windows or ubuntu. Now, I see the ssh key is kept in ~/.ssh... how would this effect other users?
[17:50] <ikonia> Roasted_: are all the users using the same username ?
[17:50] <ihashacks> Much easier to copy keys using ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub someserver
[17:50] <Roasted_> ikonia, no.
[17:50] <ikonia> Roasted_: then no,
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: well you can only upgrade to the next release, or lTS to LTS (lucid to Precise), so what release are you currently on
[17:50] <ikonia> Roasted_: that will cause no added complication
[17:50] <ihashacks> isn't it?
[17:51] <ikonia> Roasted_: either way, you're done, just ssh in now from the client
[17:51] <Roasted_> ikonia, what about the fact that the ssh keys are stored in the users home directory?
[17:51] <ikonia> Roasted_: why is it bad that the keys are stored in the users home directory
[17:51] <ikonia> Roasted_: should ask you for your key password
[17:51] <uni4dfx> bc81 Is it possible to position ApplicationIndicators anywhere on the panel? If so, how? Also, how do I remove/disable existing ApplicationIndicators?
[17:51] <AdminPC-TB2012> Ubuntu 10.04 But I dont know if I should upgrade beacuse I have 512 RAM in my VM But I can turn the specks up on it
[17:52] <Roasted_> ikonia, I don't consider it bad. I just want to make sure it'll work. Like, I now have a file on the admin account of my file server called authorized_keys. that's just 1 key. What about when I add 3 more? do I just add them in the same file?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: the specs are largely the same, later versions don't need more grunt.This isn't windows
[17:52] <bc81> uni4dfx: i don't know, but hopefully someone who does will see your question
[17:53] <ikonia> Roasted_: no, each user has their own authorized_keys file in their home directory
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: if you can hang until April you can jump straight to Precise (LTS to LTS upgrades are very supported) and save the time and hassle of going to each release inbetween
[17:53] <ihashacks> Roasted: ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub someserver
[17:53] <ikonia> Roasted_: if you want others to share the same username, but with different keys, then you just add more public keys to the single authorized_keys file
[17:53] <ihashacks> !ssh-copy-id | Roasted_
[17:53] <AdminPC-TB2012> ActionParsnip: Thank God Right. Is that the new one coming out.
[17:53] <Roasted_> ikonia, separated by anything in aprticular?
[17:53] <uni4dfx> bc81 No they won't because these questions are very specific. That is why I want to find a place to ask them. At which point you thought I should "just ask" here.
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: in april
[17:53] <ikonia> Roasted_: nope, no spaces, end of line, start a new line
[17:54] <Roasted_> ikonia, good deal
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: supported 5 years on desktop
[17:54] <bc81> uni4dfx: no need to single me out, i already told you i can't help.  there are over 1500 people here, you might want to be more patient
[17:54] <bc81> !patience
[17:55] <Roasted_> ikonia, so I don't assign these keys as per user individually. I could just generate 4 keys and just make sure I drop 1 private key per user and they'll be associated accordingly,r ight? I mean there's no marriage between sshkey1 and Frank, or sshkey2 and Bob, it's just sshkey1pub - sshkey1priv, right?
[17:55] <AdminPC-TB2012> ActionParsnip: I was wondering why cant I install ubuntu on my new laptop I have an AMD PRocessor but it is so laggy do you think they will fix it in AMD or something:(
[17:55] <uni4dfx> bc81 Please do not tell me what to do. I have already asked my question and do not require your guidelines.
[17:55] <chris_> does anybody know any good cli flashcard programs?
[17:55] <ikonia> Roasted_: yup, look at the ssh keygen options, eg: -c (comment) is useful to show users keys eg: -c "Roasteds key" - helps in a file with multiple keys
[17:56] <bc81> uni4dfx: at no point did i tell you what to do.  good luck, i hope you find the answers that you seek
[17:56] <animus-1> Hello everyone :)
[17:56] <Roasted_> ikonia, I see. so I could just barf out 4 keys, stack them in authorized keys, and freely distribute the private keys to each user and bam - good togo. eh?
[17:56] <uni4dfx> bc81 Good, so please stop spamming.
[17:56] <ikonia> Roasted_: for example here is my key
[17:56] <ikonia> Roasted_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/850269/
[17:56] <AdminPC-TB2012> animus-1: Hello how you doing are you new to ubuntu.
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: what GPU? The CPU is not much use in modern systems.
[17:57] <ikonia> Roasted_: if you look at the end, it has my name, which in a file with many keys, shows it is obviously mine, so if I need to remove it, I know which one to remove
[17:57] <ikonia> Roasted_: but, yes, it's that simple
[17:57] <animus-1> @AdminPX-TB2012 I am
[17:58] <ikonia> Roasted_: get it ?
[17:58] <AdminPC-TB2012> I have an AMD E-450 APU with Radeion(tm) HD Graphics 1.65 GHz But is that what you looking for:(
[17:58] <zykotick9> animus-1: in irc you don't need the @ just include the nickname.  You can use TAB to autocomplete nicks.
[17:58] <Roasted_> ikonia, I'm not sure if I did this right. I just tried to SSH to it from client and it said authenticity of host can't be established. are you sure you want to continue connecting.
[17:58] <t4nk340> this partition table is ok http://i42.tinypic.com/wvrfwy.jpg ??
[17:58] <ikonia> Roasted_: first connection, just cliek yes
[17:58] <ikonia> click
[17:58] <Roasted_> ikonia, oh, I thought it wouldnt ask for anything at all
[17:59] <animus-1> I'm not using a decent client though :/ lol
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: what radeon chip is it?
[17:59] <ikonia> Roasted_: you need to disable host based auth in sshd_config to stop that
[17:59] <animus-1> zykotick9 let's try this....
[17:59] <animus-1> Yeah, see
[17:59] <ikonia> Roasted_: or put the hosts in the ~/.ssh/known_hosts file, whatever works best for you
[17:59] <Roasted_> ikonia, it's fine, I just thought using priv pub sshkeys I wouldn't get ANY prompts.
[17:59] <ikonia> Roasted_: it will only ask that one
[17:59] <ikonia> once
[17:59] <Roasted_> ikonia, it just confused me is all.
[18:00] <AdminPC-TB2012> How do I look it up do I go to AMD.com or something google it or something
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: sudo lshw -C display     will tell you what it is. If its one of those dual GPU things, you'll have issues
[18:00] <ikonia> Roasted_: you won't get any prompts if you set it up correctly, eg: disable host based auth, OR put the host keys in the known_hosts file
[18:00] <Roasted_> ikonia, had my sshkeys not been working properly, it would have generated a new ssh key in .ssh, correct?
[18:00] <nikkubhai> Hi ! I want to share my internet connection to other computers over cable. is it possible?
[18:00] <ikonia> Roasted_: no
[18:00] <ikonia> Roasted_: no new keys
[18:00] <ikonia> Roasted_: you are now "setup"
[18:00] <compdoc> nikkubhai, with a router
[18:00] <ikonia> Roasted_: when you connected it will add a host key to ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[18:00] <Roasted_> ikonia, but if I hadn't set these keys up, and ssh'd anyway, it would have generated one on the fly, right?
[18:00] <ikonia> Roasted_: god no
[18:01] <AdminPC-TB2012> It not giving me an opition of changing it to XFCE I just downloaded it on the UBUNTU 10.04 why is that???
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: all I can say is grab the proprietary driver. I don't buy ATI/AMD video chips. I always buy nvidia
[18:01] <ikonia> Roasted_: that would be an amazingly large security hole
[18:01] <sacarlson> nikkubhai: over cable like ethernet cat 5 cable?
[18:01] <zykotick9> !ics | nikkubhai
[18:01] <Roasted_> ikonia, so how does ssh work if I don't set up ssh keys? I never did it before and I could ssh just fine (but that was on the LAN)
[18:01] <ikonia> Roasted_: it just wouldn't have let you login with key based auth
[18:01] <kpas_> Does anyone have a link to download ubuntu 11.10 net CD - I do not want to download the whole CD
[18:01] <ikonia> Roasted_: that is user/password authentication
[18:01] <zykotick9> !mini | kpas_
[18:01] <Roasted_> ikonia, ah, different beast?
[18:01] <nikkubhai> compdoc , Hi. Before ubuntu, I used bitwise tunnelier on windows which allowed others to connect. I dont know how to do it on ubuntu
[18:01] <ikonia> Roasted_: if you disable user/password authentication and don't have an ssh key it won't let you login
[18:02] <Roasted_> ikonia, where's that done at out of curiosity?
[18:02] <nikkubhai> ubottu: I read it. But, I don't know what should the guy on the other end do?
[18:02] <kpas_> zykotick9, thanks
[18:02] <LucidGuy> Can anyone explain why my .qcow2 kvm host file is 34G yet within the vm df -h indicates its a 19G vd?
[18:02] <ikonia> Roasted_: password authentication hits /etc/passwd -> /etc/shadow on the server, for auth, ssh keys uses the keys you created for auth and ignores /etc/passwd
[18:02] <AdminPC-TB2012> It not giving me an opition on the XFCE I don't know how to change it to it???????
[18:02] <compdoc> nikkubhai, you need to describe your setup, and the location of the other computers
[18:02] <Roasted_> ikonia, I see.
[18:02] <animus-1> So I have a problem with wireless where it is turned off by default.  I'm using Ubuntu 11.10.  I think the problem is related to a few commands I had to run to get my laptop working as there were driver problems.  The commands were: sudo rmmod iwlagn as well as sudo modprobe iwlagn bt_coex_active=0......
[18:02] <Roasted_> ikonia, so I just have to repeat this process 3 more times and I should be good?
[18:03] <ikonia> Roasted_: pretty much
[18:03] <Roasted_> ikonia, nice. thanks for your help.
[18:03] <nikkubhai> I am running ubuntu 12.04 . Others are running windows. they are connected through cable
[18:03] <Roasted_> ikonia, it's appreciated.
[18:03] <sacarlson> nikkubhai: if it's cat 5 cable the other guy plugs it in and it works
[18:03] <ikonia> Roasted_: you may want to improve it, eg: add comments to the key, disable host based auth, etc etc
[18:03] <zykotick9> LucidGuy: ext4 supports "holes", but i though it only worked with RAW images actually.
[18:03] <ikonia> Roasted_: but at a highlevel, yes, it's that simple
[18:03] <Roasted_> ikonia, # comments?
[18:03] <ikonia> Roasted_: yes, -c "jimmys key" so it's obvious who owns what key in the authorized_keys file
[18:03] <nikkubhai> sacarlson : But, how?
[18:04] <AdminPC-TB2012> never mind I found it lol I had to put in the password to get the opition lol
[18:04] <sacarlson> nikkubhai: I'm not sure what kind of a connection you are trying to share
[18:04] <Roasted_> ikonia, do these keys ever have to be refreshed?
[18:04] <bc81> animus-1: do you have a hardware button to toggle the wifi?
[18:04] <Roasted_> ikonia, can I expect to redo this next month or something?
[18:04] <ikonia> Roasted_: nope
[18:04] <Roasted_> nice, nice
[18:04] <Atlantic777> how to upen grub menu, it seems that's hidden during booting
[18:04] <ikonia> Roasted_: I've had the same key for 12 years
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> animus-1: then run: echo "options iwlagn bt_coex_active=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/wireless.conf
[18:04] <nikkubhai> I did it before using bitwise tunnelier on windows
[18:04] <Roasted_> ikonia, lol
[18:04] <Roasted_> ikonia, impressive.
[18:04] <ikonia> Roasted_: it's a very effective method
[18:04] <compdoc> nikkubhai, connected by what kind of cable? where are they located? in the same house?
[18:04] <zykotick9> Atlantic777: HOLD shift after BIOS
[18:04] <Roasted_> ikonia, its simple when you think about it...
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> animus-1: it willmake it use that option by default when it is loaded. Saves you having to do it manually
[18:04] <ikonia> actually, that's not true 8 years, I changed it to increase my encyption rate
[18:05] <Atlantic777> zykotick9: tnx :)
[18:05] <ikonia> Roasted_: eg: you want to give me access to your machine, I give you my public key, bang we are done
[18:05] <Roasted_> ikonia, ssh-keygen, type pw, it barfs out 2 files, .pub contents to server in authorized_keys
[18:05] <nikkubhai> See, we are in different rooms of our hostel in university
[18:05] <oCean> nikkubhai: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (still alpha). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[18:05] <AdminPC-TB2012> Hey everyone I have a creation on ARCH how do you get started on it
[18:05] <ikonia> Roasted_: you want me to not have access, you remove it, bang your done
[18:05] <ikonia> Roasted_: we don't have to know passwords etc etc
[18:05] <christinepea777> what is a good channel for linux super-newbie questions?
[18:05] <AdminPC-TB2012> I tryed and it is hard
[18:05] <ikonia> Roasted_: correct
[18:05] <Roasted_> ikonia, very nice.
[18:05] <Roasted_> ikonia, thanks for the help. I'm gonna get to creating these quick.
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: ask in the arch channel for arch support
[18:05] <ikonia> no problem
[18:05] <nikkubhai> oCean : how does it matter? The steps should be same as on 11.10
[18:05] <animus-1> bc81: I do have a toggle switch
[18:06] <Roasted_> ikonia, just to recap, client is ALWAYS private, right?
[18:06] <nikkubhai> compdoc : we are in different rooms of our hostel in university connected by lan
[18:06] <animus-1> bc81: But the wireless works, it's just not "enabled" by default
[18:06] <ikonia> Roasted_: guard it with your life
[18:06] <Roasted_> ikonia, see, that makes no sense to me. I would think server would be private...
[18:06] <sacarlson> nikkubhai: I'm still clueless what connection does you service originate?  wifi?  cellphone?  adsl wire line?
[18:06] <ikonia> Roasted_: no, you are the user who moves around, this is your data
[18:06] <compdoc> nikkubhai, so they are all attached to the same network/switch?
[18:06] <ikonia> Roasted_: you take the private key with you
[18:06] <nikkubhai> adsl wireline
[18:07] <Roasted_> ikonia, however, even if someone steals mom's laptop, I can just nuke her public key on the server and all is well
[18:07] <nikkubhai> compdoc : Yes.
[18:07] <chris_> anybody know  a good cli flashcard program?
[18:07] <animus-1> ActionParsnip: I have added a file in modeprob.d that does this by default so I don't have to run it everytime, but now I have the problem where wireless is "disabled" by default
[18:07] <Roasted_> ikonia, not to mention, her user doesn't have root access, so itd be limited, albeit still bad
[18:07] <ikonia> Roasted_: correct
[18:07] <ikonia> Roasted_: plus if you password the private key, it's pretty much worthless too
[18:07] <oCean> nikkubhai: it matters because we cannot be sure what is different and what is. Also it's still alpha, and we don't know what to attribute to the fact its alpha
[18:07] <Roasted_> ikonia, sounds good.
[18:07] <asteve> $ ls
[18:07] <compdoc> nikkubhai, then you just need a router - they cost $30 or so
[18:07] <asteve> Bus error
[18:07] <ikonia> Roasted_: eg: if someone steals my private key, they can't use it unless they know the password, they can try to brute force it, but they will be trying for 128years
[18:07] <sacarlson> nikkubhai: so you just need a 8$ cat 5 switch and 3 cat 5 cables and just plug them all together
[18:07] <asteve> any ideas where to begin diagnosing?
[18:08] <Roasted_> ikonia, a good way to invest precious time
[18:08] <ikonia> Roasted_: take 2 minutes to setup, lasts 8 years and counting
[18:08] <nikkubhai> sacarlson and compdoc : But, why a router. I did it using bitwise tunnelier on windows without router
[18:08] <chris_> ls as a flashcard program? I was looking for something with statistics and randomization
[18:09] <Anubisx94> hello
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> animus-1: do you have a switch to disable and enable wifi?
[18:09] <sacarlson> nikkubhai: you shouldn't require any tunnel that I know of if you have a standard adsl connection
[18:09] <compdoc> nikkubhai, for one thing, the router can remain on all the time - no need to have a PC running
[18:09] <animus-1> ActionParsnip: I do.  But that is a hardware switch, this is a soft switch
[18:09] <sacarlson> nikkubhai:  you still need some kind of data conection weather wire or wireless
[18:10] <animus-1> ActionParsnip: My wireless can be enable or disabled from the UI, I just would rather not have to "enable" it everytime I boot.
[18:10] <nikkubhai> I want a setup like this. Others should enter ip address of my comp, username and password. And then access my internet .
[18:10] <sacarlson> nikkubhai: many adsl boxes already have 4 or more ethernet connections maybe all you need is a cable for the secound computer
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> animus-1: if you run:  sudo rfkill unblock all      does it unblock?
[18:11] <bc81> animus-1: also, try rfkill unblock 0
[18:12] <animus-1> ActionParsnip: Not sure what that does?  (This is my first use of Linux or Ubuntu for that matter). How can I tell if it unblocks?
[18:12] <sacarlson> nikkubhai: oh ok restricted access then I'm not sure
[18:12] <ccmonster> hey guys, when i move from desktop (up and down) my computer will freeze sometimes for a few moments. It's never done this before (i had the monitors side by side prior). Any ideas?
[18:12] <nikkubhai> sacarkson : I am in an university. We are all connected through lan. I am in a lab where I get access to unrestricted internet. I want some of my friends to be able to use this internet by entering ip , username and password
[18:12] <nikkubhai> Sorry sacarlson
[18:13] <sacarlson> nikkubhai: oh ok then ssh tunnel
[18:13] <nikkubhai> Yes
[18:13] <ikonia> nikkubhai: sorry - not going to help you bypass your uni lab security
[18:13] <nikkubhai> How?
[18:13] <ikonia> nikkubhai: talk to your lan administrator and they can setup access if required
[18:13] <Roasted_> ikonia, might I bug you again real quick?
[18:13] <ikonia> Roasted_: sure
[18:14] <animus-1> ActionParsnip: And yes, it is unblocked
[18:14] <nikkubhai> Ok
[18:14] <Roasted_> ikonia, maybe I was misunderstanding. I generated 4 keys from my laptop thinking I could jsut swap them to the clients. Can I do that? I see my laptops hostname at the end of each pub file. Can I just erase it, or do I need to generate the keys from each individual system?
[18:14] <nikkubhai> sacarlson : ssh tunneling ? How?
[18:14] <ccmonster> anyone able to help diagnose?
[18:14] <sacarlson> nikkubhai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding
[18:14] <ikonia> Roasted_: no, the hostname at the end is because you didn't specify a comment so it creates something to identify
[18:14] <nichlas> nikkubhai, if i where you, i would have a look at OpenVPN. Then your friends don't have to mess with ssh on their boxes.
[18:15] <ikonia> sacarlson: please stop - we are not going to help him bypass his lab security
[18:15] <Roasted_> ikonia, so are these keys useless?
[18:15] <ikonia> Roasted_: not at all
[18:15] <nikkubhai> Thank you so much., I will read it now
[18:15] <Roasted_> ikonia, can I just erase the laptop hostname at the end?
[18:15] <ikonia> Roasted_: think of your laptop hostname as a pointless comment
[18:15] <ikonia> Roasted_: nothing more
[18:15] <AdminPC-TB2012> ActionParsnip: were can I get the drivers from the iso file when I download ubuntu 11.10 were are they located at I was wondering beacuse I can install ubuntu 10.04 on my new laptop and dont have any problems with it If you know how to do it please tell me lol Thank you..
[18:15] <ikonia> Roasted_: no
[18:15] <ikonia> Roasted_: that's part of the key - but it is not a factor
[18:15] <animus-1> ActionParsnip: rfkill list shows them all as unblocked.  I am not sure you're understanding my question though..... My wireless can be turned on and off via both a hardware switch and Ubuntu's soft switch in Network Manager, but currently it boots with the soft switch off (Enable Wireless is unchecked).  During the vanilla install it defaulted to on, but now it does not.  I just would like it back to default on, not off.
[18:16] <Roasted_> ikonia, k, so I MUST leave it alone?
[18:16] <ikonia> Roasted_:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/850269/
[18:16] <ikonia> Roasted_: that's my public key
[18:16] <ikonia> Roasted_: look at the very end
[18:16] <Roasted_> ikonia, yeah, I see it.
[18:16] <ikonia> Roasted_: ok - so I set a comment of my name, you didn't set a comment so it defaults to $user@$host type format
[18:16] <ikonia> Roasted_: it's just an identifier
[18:17] <ikonia> Roasted_: if you set a comment that will be your identifier
[18:17] <Roasted_> ikonia, but can I not erase my hostname and put "curt key" or whatever?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: whythe 'lol'?
[18:17] <ikonia> Roasted_: no, you do that when you create the key as I advised you 3 times to do
[18:17] <Roasted_> ikonia, gotcha.
[18:17] <ikonia> Roasted_: -c "curts key"
[18:17] <zykotick9> !cookie | ikonia
[18:18] <ikonia> ha
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> animus-1: what is the make and model of the system?
[18:18] <Roasted_> ikonia, -c being a ssh-keygen flag?
[18:18] <Roasted_> er, switch.
[18:18] <animus-1> Asus U56E
[18:18] <ikonia> Roasted_: correct
[18:18] <Roasted_> oh, its capital
[18:19] <animus-1> ActionParsnip: Asus U56E **
[18:19] <AdminPC-TB2012> ActionParsnip: You know when you install ubuntu there are drivers located in the file of ubuntu iso something like that but I was wondering if you can pont me to the dicration were the files i can Tranfer thouse to ubuntu 10.04
[18:19] <ikonia> Roasted_: ahh sorry, working from memory here
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: that won't work
[18:19] <Roasted_> ikonia, all good. I was like now what in the world am I doing wrong now :P
[18:19] <ikonia> Roasted_: got it clear in your head now though ?
[18:20] <AdminPC-TB2012> ActionParsnip: Oh why not?
[18:20] <Roasted_> ikonia, pretty sure I do. thanks again!
[18:20] <ikonia> Roasted_: no problem
[18:20] <Roasted_> ikonia, unless you by cahnce know how to incorporate the private key into a windows box :/
[18:20] <ikonia> Roasted_: sure, look at putty
[18:20] <ikonia> Roasted_: pagent is the daemon tool for putty
[18:21] <ikonia> Roasted_: putty-keygen will convert your key to a format putty can use too
[18:21] <ikonia> Roasted_: sorry puttygen
[18:21] <ikonia> Roasted_: not putty-keygen
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: its a totally differnent release
[18:22] <ikonia> Roasted_: launch puttygen to convert the key, (1 time process) load it into pagent, then just connect using putty, zero issue
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> animus-1: all I can recommend is report a bug
[18:22] <animus-1> ActionParsnip: Alright.  Thanks for the help.  It is much appreciated! :D
[18:22] <ccmonster> hey guys, when i move from desktop (up and down) my computer will freeze sometimes for a few moments. It's never done this before (i had the monitors side by side prior). Any ideas?
[18:22] <Roasted_> ikonia, I'm hoping syncback se supports ssh... that's my goal is to have the windows boxes back up over ssh to my box via that utility
[18:22] <Computer-01> sacarlson, hey
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> animus-1: np
[18:22] <ikonia> Roasted_: that part I don't know/can't help with
[18:22] <sacarlson> Computer-01: what's up working?
[18:23] <german_8695> español???
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> animus-1: you could try unloading then reloading the driver module to see if it enables the device
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> !es | german_8695
[18:23] <dlentz> animus-1, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/907657
[18:23] <Computer-01> sacarlson, nope I tried with the bind-address and I only get my socket to get lost
[18:23] <ikonia> Computer-01: it's nothing to do with your bind address
[18:23] <ikonia> Computer-01: I told you the problem
[18:24] <kgdinesh> Is wicd better than default?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> dlentz: the device works, just needs manually enabling each boot
[18:24] <Computer-01> ikonia, I am trying that right noe
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> kgdinesh: in some ways yes, in some ways no
[18:24] <ikonia> Computer-01: the default user is root@localhost - if you are accessing it remotley, you are not on localhost, so you would be root@different_host - so you can't connect
[18:24] <dlentz> oh, saw u56e and remember that bug(s)
[18:24] <animus-1> dlentz: Thank you, I have done that.  That was my initial problem, my wireless would not connect to APs, but now that that has been resolved, I was just trying to have my wireless enable by default as now it isn't
[18:24] <ikonia> Computer-01: you need to grant permisions to root@different_host to connect remotly
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> kgdinesh: if it was outright better, it would be used instead of network manager, think about it
[18:25] <milen8204> how to change picture of keyboard language to flags or something like that ?
[18:25] <kgdinesh> ActionParsnip how?
[18:26] <Roasted_> ikonia, the multiple user confusion is settling in...
[18:26] <ikonia> Roasted_: excellent
[18:26] <ikonia> Roasted_: getting clearer ?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: http://askubuntu.com/questions/10223/display-current-layout-language-code-country-flag-in-keyboard-indicator
[18:26] <animus-1> I would think there would just be parameter somewhere in the wireless properties that decides it's initial state on boot, just don't know diddly squat about it.  Lol
[18:26] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, thanks
[18:27] <Roasted_> ikonia, well, due to samba, I have 4 users on my file server since samba relies on local user accounts. I have admin, mom, 2 brothers. I just added all of the public ssh keys into authorized_keys in the admin .ssh dir... but should I not be putting the public ssh key in each user home dir?
[18:27] <ikonia> Roasted_: correct yes
[18:27] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, is that work for 11.10
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: possibly
[18:27] <ikonia> Roasted_: for your setup, each user would have an authorized_key file in their own home dirrecotry
[18:27] <Roasted_> ikonia, gotcha
[18:27] <ikonia> Roasted_: that authorized_key file would contain their public key only
[18:28] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, :D thanks
[18:28] <kgdinesh> What is special about wicd
[18:28] <indio> How do I for to reinstall a package. I removed it an manually deleted some files and now apt-get install <package> won't install all files.
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> kgdinesh: wicd allows you to set the interface names, network manager can use 3G easily
[18:28] <indio> s/an/and/
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> kgdinesh: wicd has a nice curses UI, handy for servers
[18:28] <kgdinesh> Okay thanks ActionParsnip
[18:28] <kgdinesh> ;-)
[18:28] <dlentz> indio ap-tget install --reinstall <package?
[18:28] <ikonia> Roasted_: about to leave, - you got it clear in your head now before I go ?
[18:29] <dlentz> err, apt-get
[18:29] <sacarlson> Computer-01: I think I found the part needed on that page mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON 'MY_DATABASE'.* TO 'MY_USERNAME'@'12.34.56.78' IDENTIFIED BY 'MY_PASSWORD';   where the my_username@xxxx is what you need to change to match yours
[18:29] <indio> dlentz: Didn't work.
[18:29] <sahch> hi
[18:30] <Roasted_> ikonia, I think I'm good, for now. :P Thanks again!
[18:30] <dlentz> indio, what is the output?
[18:30] <ccmonster> is there a known bug with chrome eating CPU on 11.10 with newest version of chrome?
[18:30] <ikonia> Roasted_: no problem
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: does it happen as a fresh user?
[18:30] <indio> dlentz: apt-get output is normal. But when some files are not installed.
[18:31] <Antigone3010> hello !
[18:31] <tnrazy> help
[18:31] <Computer-01> sacarlson, yes I try to do that but I get an error.
[18:31] <Antigone3010> I have a laptop with a DVI output, and i can't make it work (i want to use a videoprojector) ... any help ??
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Antigone3010: what model laptop? What GPU?
[18:32] <Antigone3010> the display is not detected
[18:32] <sacarlson> Computer-01: well the database and other parts need to be correct also
[18:32] <Computer-01> sacarlson, I created the user, and now I am assigning the privileges and get this error.
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Antigone3010: why were these not in your initial question?
[18:32] <Antigone3010> it's a quite old packard bell, GeFore8600M GS ActionParsnip
[18:32] <Computer-01> ERROR 1064 (42000):, sacarlson
[18:32] <ikonia> Computer-01: how did you create a user ?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Antigone3010: have you installed the nvidia proprietary driver?
[18:33] <Antigone3010> yes ActionParsnip
[18:33] <Computer-01> ikonia, mysql> CREATE USER 'MY_USERNAME'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'MY_PASSWORD'
[18:33] <ikonia> Computer-01: look !!!!! "@localhost"
[18:33]  * Sebastien [Fun Fact] Kurt cobain from Nirvana would have been 45 today.
[18:33] <ikonia> Computer-01: I've told you 3 times
[18:33] <ikonia> Sebastien: please keep the fun facts out
[18:33] <repozitor> why this command dosen’t work?
[18:33] <repozitor> “unix% meep foo.ctl >& foo.out”
[18:33] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, my gconf-editor have no /desktop/peripherals/keyboard/indicator that is only for 11.10
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Antigone3010: can you give the output of:   sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia       use http://pastie.org
[18:33] <ikonia> Computer-01: @localhost - you are NOT tring to connect from localhost
[18:33] <Sebastien> ikonia no thank you.
[18:34] <Computer-01> ikonia, uhmmm I tho you said that it is when assigning permission, not when creating users.
[18:34] <ikonia> Computer-01: what is the name/ip address of the hostname
[18:34] <Sebastien> hmm no.
[18:34] <ikonia> Computer-01: the name/hostname of the computer you want to connect from ?
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: maybe org/gnome/libgnomekbd/indicator/show-flags   in dconf...
[18:35] <Computer-01> ikonia, computos
[18:35] <ikonia> Computer-01: and the username you want to use ?
[18:35] <ccmonster> ActionParsnip, as a fresh user? what do you mean?
[18:35] <Computer-01> ikonia, root
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: make a new ubuntu user, log off, log in as the new user, test the app. What else could it mean?
[18:35] <ikonia> Computer-01: right, type this exactly
[18:35] <Trfsrfr> how do i see what programs are running? I have music playing that I cannot find, and cannot turn off.
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: http://www.onlinehowto.net/gnome-keyboard-indicator-with-country-flags/1468
[18:36] <ikonia> Computer-01: grant all privileges on *.* to 'root'@'computos' identified by password '$yourpassword'
[18:36] <ikonia> widnow 14
[18:36] <sacarlson> Trfsrfr: the command is ps -A
[18:36] <ikonia> oops
[18:36] <ccmonster> It just started, when I moved my monitor setup from left/rigth to Up/down.
[18:36] <Trfsrfr> sacarlson, Thank you.
[18:36] <Antigone3010> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/Hie3VHAE
[18:36] <ccmonster> why would a user affect this?
[18:36] <ikonia> Computer-01: have you run that command ?
[18:37] <Computer-01> ikonia, give me a second
[18:37] <h00k> Trfsrfr: you can open the System Monitor, or use 'top' from a terminal as well
[18:37] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, ok thanks will try
[18:38] <Computer-01> ikonia, yes I did, and it still waiting for the command should I add ; ?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Antigone3010: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-173 nvidia-current nvidia-settings; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[18:38] <ikonia> Computer-01: what's still waiting for the command
[18:38] <Antigone3010> ActionParsnip, sorry http://pastebin.com/tZHFAP3g
[18:38] <ikonia> Computer-01: grant all privileges on *.* to 'root'@'computos' identified by password '$yourpassword'
[18:38] <repozitor> is there exist any one to answer me? :-S
[18:39] <ikonia> Computer-01: you terminate the line with ";"
[18:39] <Trfsrfr> how do i close banshee?
[18:39] <Trfsrfr> in the terminal
[18:39] <Computer-01> ikonia, nope :), should I put it?
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Antigone3010: you can then reboot and use nvidia settings, hammer the 'detect display' button until the device shows
[18:39] <ikonia> Computer-01: yes
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Trfsrfr: killall banshee
[18:39] <Antigone3010> ActionParsnip, okay thank you.
[18:39] <Animus> ActionParsnip: The rfkill worked after reboot.  Thanks again for your help.  No bug submission necessary
[18:39] <zykotick9> indio: did you get an answer?  i'd like to mention that your manual package removal was a bad move.  With aptitude you might be able to use "sudo aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" if it's config files that are missing.
[18:39] <ikonia> Computer-01: tell me once you have done that
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Animus: sweet :)
[18:39] <Computer-01> ikonia, ERROR 1372 (HY000): Password hash should be a 41-digit hexadecimal number.
[18:40] <sacarlson> Trfsrfr: killall banshee
[18:40] <ikonia> Computer-01: ok, remove the word password
[18:40] <ikonia> Computer-01: grant all privileges on *.* to 'root'@'computos' identified by '$yourpassword'
[18:40] <Trfsrfr> thank you all!!!
[18:40] <Trfsrfr> that was driving me nuts!
[18:40] <Computer-01> ikonia, It is done
[18:41] <indio> zykotick9: What if it is not config files?
[18:41] <ikonia> Computer-01: ok, now run "flush privileges"
[18:41] <zykotick9> indio: i'd figure the --reinstall option would work then?
[18:41] <Computer-01> ikonia, it is done
[18:41] <ikonia> Computer-01: you should be good to go
[18:42] <Firebolt> Anyone know of any voice recognition software for Ubuntu?
[18:42] <mohammadtiti> hi everyone....
[18:42] <mohammadtiti> i have a fairly big problem...that i'm sure you guys can help me out...
[18:42] <LL2|Android> Ok, now that my client isn't lagging
[18:42] <sacarlson> Firebolt: that google voice is cool I wonder if they have anything like that for linux
[18:42] <LL2|Android> I have a question
[18:42] <Computer-01> ikonia, still :( cannot connect from remote pc.
[18:42] <ikonia> Computer-01: error ?
[18:43] <sacarlson> Firebolt: since google voice runs on android and android is linux I don't know why we can't get it to work on ubuntu
[18:43] <h00k> Firebolt: check out the software center, there may be something in there you see
[18:43] <indio> zykotick9: Not working.
[18:43] <LL2|Android> Is there any way I can get the listings of multiple directories without showing files that are duplicates of eachother?
[18:44] <Computer-01> ikonia, error code 2003, cannot connect
[18:44] <Firebolt> sacarlson, using google voice would require google's code, and you know how they are about stuff like that
[18:44] <ikonia> Computer-01: ok - can your server ping the hostname compute
[18:44] <LL2|Android> Like, if I want to list the contents of /bin and /usr/bin without showing files that are  in both
[18:44] <LL2|Android> If I am able to, how?
[18:44] <zykotick9> sacarlson: ubuntu (or any other gnu/linux distro for that matter) has close to nothing in common with android except for the "linux" kernel
[18:44] <mohammadtiti> my ext3 linux partition has approximately 350GB of my hdd space and since i have windows 7 alongside it, i want to dedicate 50GB of this space for linux...how should i do that in a way i lose neither my windows nor my linux ?
[18:45] <sacarlson> Firebolt: well again it's like cloud stuf, they decode the voice wave file and return the results
[18:45] <sacarlson> Firebolt: we don't ever see the code
[18:45] <Computer-01> ikonia, I can ping the IP address.
[18:45] <ikonia> Computer-01: not what I asked
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> mohammadtiti: windows 7 can resize it'sown partitions
[18:45] <ikonia> Computer-01: you've just told it to authenticate a computer name, if it can't see that computer name, it can't work
[18:46] <LL2|Android> sacarlson: Is there any way I can get the listings of multiple directories without showing files that are duplicates of eachother?
[18:46] <Computer-01> ikonia, The other pc Is in another Domain I Believe, should this matter?
[18:46] <ikonia> Computer-01: please re-read what I've said
[18:46] <sacarlson> LL2|Android: not off hand, you would have to write a ruby script or something for something like that I would imagin
[18:47] <Firebolt> sacarlson, yeah, I know - but I don't think voice has an API, and i'm not looking to write my own program to interact with it
[18:47] <mohammadtiti> IActionPasnip I have Acronis Disk Director Suite in windows for partitioning but when i wanted to use it to resize my ext3 it told me that if u do this it won't boot again
[18:47] <LL2|Android> Ok
[18:47] <Computer-01> ikonia, Should I use the IP instead of the name?
[18:47] <sacarlson> Firebolt: it must have an api and android is all open source
[18:47] <tmetro> Evaluating 11.10 desktop live CD...how do I get to the login screen to select the classic desktop?
[18:48] <ikonia> Computer-01: if you want
[18:48] <zykotick9> sacarlson: andorid is NOT all open source...
[18:48] <Firebolt> sacarlson, well, it definitely has an API -- but I don't think Google has released it yet
[18:48] <sacarlson> zykotick9: oh well it has a cool development package anyway
[18:49] <gotwig> Pls help me, how can I use dput with active ftp instead of passive ftp ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/105957/how-may-i-upload-my-source-package-with-active-ftp-over-dput-to-launchpad
[18:49] <mohammadtiti> ActionPasnip I have Acronis Disk Director Suite in windows for partitioning but when i wanted to use it to resize my ext3 it told me that if u do this it won't boot again
[18:50] <csddesk> ok so other computers in my network can see httpd on `chrislap.local' or just `chrislap' so how do i change both the top level of `local'  and then also make it so that `momslap.whatever' refers to her host?
[18:50] <tmetro> Asking about Google Voice API? There is a "back door" means of access via Google Talk (XMPP). The OBi phone adapter uses this technique.
[18:50] <h00k> gotwig: #launchpad may be able to assist you with that
[18:50] <Computer-01> ikonia, I used the IP instead of the hostname, and still :/, Made sure to flush privileges
[18:50] <ikonia> ok
[18:50] <repozitor> how to run sample for meep program?
[18:50] <Computer-01> ikonia, still cant connect from remote pc.
[18:50] <repozitor> by*
[18:50] <ikonia> Computer-01: I'm not surprised
[18:52] <sacarlson> firebolt: what part of android isn't opensource? http://source.android.com/  seems to say it is
[18:52] <Firebolt> I never said it wasn't oss
[18:52] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, didn`t work
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> tmetro: there is no classic desktop in Oneiric
[18:53] <sacarlson> Firebolt: oh sorry that was zykotick9 that said that
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> tmetro: if you like the Gnome2 smell, use Xubuntu Oneiric
[18:53] <zykotick9> sacarlson: it OT, but Android if more propritary then open source
[18:54] <zykotick9> s/if more/is more/
[18:55] <mrantims> Hi, does anyone know if it is possible to prevent apt-get from installing a specific version of a package? I tried pinning with "Pin: Version <version_number>" but it doesn't allow me to install a newer versions of the same package as well.
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> !pin
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> mrantims: you'd need to unpin, install then repin
[18:55] <mohammadtiti> how can i resize my ext3 linux partition in a way that this wouldn't damage the bootablity of the partition? somebody please help me?
[18:55] <tmetro> ActionParsnip: meaning it isn't on the CD, or isn't in the repos?
[18:56] <eckological> what IRC client are you guys useing? Empathy was quite a disapointment. Any experience with xchat-gnome?
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> tmetro: its not an option anymore, not on the cd etc. Unity is the default shell for Gnome ubuntu
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> eckological: pidgin right now..
[18:57] <rattatoue> eckological, im on xchat right now
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> mohammadtiti: if you resize ext3 youo may need to change the entris in fstab as the IDs of the partitions may change
[18:57] <indio> How do I know the path to the file excuted in the terminal?
[18:57] <tmetro> ActionParsnip: thanks, but xfce isn't on my list of options to evaluate at the moment, even if the UI happens to be the closest approximation to GNOME 2. I've seen guides on reverting 11.10 to a classic UI with GNOME 3.
[18:57] <rizzeh> eckological, try irssi
[18:57] <indio> I want to know which file is being executed.
[18:57] <mohammadtiti> what do u mean by "entris in fstab"?
[18:57] <whiskers75> how do you get a Wacom Bamboo tablet to work with Ubuntu 10.10? It is listed under lsusb...
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> tmetro: its a good replacement and you can run your Gnome apps in XFCE without any problem
[18:58] <tmetro> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks.
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> mohammadtiti: the UUID may change if you resize, so you will need to change it to respect the new IDs
[18:58] <tmetro> FYI, found this as an answer to my logout question: http://ubuntu.5.n6.nabble.com/Logout-from-Unity-session-td1393765.html
[18:59] <whiskers75> how do you get a Wacom Bamboo tablet to work with Ubuntu 10.10? It is listed under lsusb...
[18:59] <zaxonspox> hello, i cant add an ISO (not Ubuntu ISO) to USB creator assistant in Ubu 11.04
[18:59] <eckological> ill give xchat-gnome i try... used Pidgin a few years back but wasn't impressed... want a more old-skool lock like the mIRC days with the NN-script <3
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> mohammadtiti: if you run:  sudo blkid    you will see the current IDs. If you resize, these may change, if you run:  cat /etc/fstab    you will see how the IDs are used, that file will need changing
[18:59] <eckological> look*
[18:59] <zykotick9> zaxonspox: the usb creator in ubuntu ONLY works for ubuntu ISOs - unetbootin perhaps?
[18:59] <mohammadtiti> ok...no offense but since i'm completely new to the linux world i didn't get u...sorry. but anyway, tell me is it applicable to do that?
[18:59] <whiskers75> any answers to my question: how do you get a Wacom Bamboo tablet to work with Ubuntu 10.10? It is listed under lsusb...
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> whiskers75: use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[19:00] <whiskers75> ActionParsnip: What one?
[19:00] <zaxonspox> zykotick9, thx for clarify, is unetbootin availabe under Ubuntu? In some Repos?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> mohammadtiti: just read and run what I say, you'll see what I mean. Simply shrugging it off because its something new is pretty poor
[19:00] <zykotick9> zaxonspox: i think so
[19:00] <zykotick9> !info unetbootin
[19:00] <gr33n7007h> will some1 take a look at this code and tell me why ettercap dies!?? thanks
[19:00] <gr33n7007h> will some1 take a look at this code and tell me why ettercap dies!?? thanks http://paste.ubuntu.com/850347/
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> whiskers75: the ID after the ID:   bit...
[19:00] <rattatoue> whiskers75, did you try http://brizoma.wordpress.com/2010/08/15/how-to-install-wacom-bamboo-pen-graphics-tablet-in-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/ ?
[19:01] <whiskers75> rattatoue: no. thanks, trying that now..
[19:01] <Rico-Suave> hi
[19:02] <Rico-Suave> anyone here can help me?
[19:02] <mohammadtiti> ActionParsnip: ok...i'm all ears
[19:02] <vlt> !ask | Rico-Suave
[19:02] <mrantims> ActionParsnip: thanks. But my concern is, if I unpin and the package is a dependency for another package I try to install, the unwanted version may get installed.
[19:02] <gr33n7007h> any one know the room for bash scripts
[19:02] <ikonia> gr33n7007h: #bash ?
[19:02] <gr33n7007h> thanks
[19:02] <mjk5> Hello to all, i need some help because i cant login with gnome session in ubuntu 11.10 i have installed gnome-shell but when trying to login i see for some seconds the top panel and then it disappears and i see the unity global menu and notyhing responds on desktop and i have to restart light dm in order to login in unity session
[19:04] <vlt> Hello. I installed Ubuntu Oneiric, and now everytime I login my audio volume is set to 100 %, no matter what I select in lightdm's login screen. Any idea how to fix this?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> mohammadtiti: i gave you all you need, you'll just need to boot to live CD and mount your system partition to change fstab
[19:04] <mohammadtiti> oops...i can't
[19:04] <mohammadtiti> my laptop DOESN'T have a odd
[19:04] <Rico-Suave> why do i get a black screen on my laptop? i do hear the sound of ubuntu loading but the screen is black. im using ubuntu 11.10 on a flashdrive
[19:05] <rattatoue> Rico-Suave, try hitting CTRL ALT F1, see if you get text, sounds like a video driver issue
[19:05] <eckological> Rico-Suave: just a black screen or a terminal window?
[19:05] <mohammadtiti> ok...please u tell me and i write them down...i'll do it later
[19:05] <Rico-Suave> just a black screen
[19:05] <mohammadtiti> ActionParsnip: thanks in advance
[19:05] <eckological> Rico-Suave, ....what rattatoue said
[19:06] <Rico-Suave> ok brb ill try that and see what happens
[19:06] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | Rico-Suave
[19:06] <gr33n7007h> http://paste.ubuntu.com/850347/ please its doin my head right in
[19:06] <eckological> Rico-Suave, CTRL + ALT + F7 to get to the graphical interface if done correctly ;)
[19:07] <eckological> after reconfiguring on the terminal
[19:07] <zykotick9> eckological: once you are out of Xorg, you can use just ALT+Fkey
[19:07] <rattatoue> gr33n7007h, what are you trying to do?
[19:08] <gr33n7007h> monitor my network
[19:08] <Computer-01> ikonia, Sorry, I added the users from different locations I even tried the % and still cannot connect....
[19:08] <rattatoue> gr33n7007h, the link you just gave is not for a network its for some ascii looking art?
[19:08] <zykotick9> eckological: alt+left/rightArrow is pretty handy as well
[19:08] <gr33n7007h> scroll down
[19:08] <eckological> zykotick9, not even after a reconfiguration of the settings and starting X?
[19:09] <zykotick9> eckological: in X you need to use the ctrl+alt+Fkey
[19:09] <eckological> zykotick9, ofc... im just tirred.. sorry
[19:09] <pato> 443
[19:09] <eckological> zykotick9, cant even get my spelling right atm :D
[19:11] <csddesk> gr33n7007h, try ##bash
[19:11] <gr33n7007h> ok
[19:11] <gr33n7007h> invite only
[19:12] <csddesk> eh, single pound #bash then
[19:12] <gr33n7007h> ok
[19:12] <gr33n7007h> cheers
[19:12] <erpo> I have a 10.04.3 LTS server with squid and samba installed. I don't want samba and squid to start after a reboot until I've logged in and run a few commands. How can I accomplish this?
[19:12] <indio> Is the a way to find which is the command which is being execute in the command line?
[19:12] <indio> there*
[19:13] <sacarlson> Firebolt: I think I found some voice recognition stuf but I never tried it apt-get install julius
[19:13] <dragonfly> indio: need a bit more information...what are you working on?
[19:13] <erpo> indio: Look at what you type before you hit enter?
[19:13] <xcyclist> I don't see a .deb entry from my apt-get search for rbenv.
[19:14] <dragonfly> erpo: maybe remove it from /etc/init.d?
[19:14] <indio> See. I can have two `fpc' commands in /usr/bin /usr/local/bin. How do I know which one is being executed?
[19:14] <erpo> dragonfly: Eurgh. Any more organized way?
[19:14] <bellman> hello, I am looking to pin any packages that would decrease the stability of my Core i7 Quad system. I cannot run debian stable because my hardware is brand new. How do I pin any destabilizing package
[19:14] <indio> Imagine a more complex scenario.
[19:14] <Pici> indio: whichever appears on your $PATH first
[19:15] <aethelrick> indio: type which fpc
[19:15] <erpo> dragonfly: What I used to do before upstart was move the symbolic S##samba and S##squid links from /etc/rc2.d/ to /etc/rc3.d/, and then did a telinit 3 after I ran the necessary commands.
[19:15] <dragonfly> erpo: found what you're looking for...check out the package rcconf
[19:15]  * indio hugs aethelrick
[19:15] <indio> Thanks.
[19:16] <aethelrick> indio: you are welcome
[19:16] <dragonfly> erpo: why not set it up so that the "necessary" commands don't have to be run manually?
[19:16] <mohammadtiti_> dudes i have a windows7 and ubuntu and i want to resize my ext3 partition (350GB-->35GB)...does this link helps me?  http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions
[19:18] <OU818> bellman: you should really be running a more advanced OS then linux on that PC inorder to get full value of that processor
[19:18] <erpo> dragonfly: It's mounting an encrypted disk. I don't want to store the keys on the server.
[19:18] <Computer-01> sacarlson, I assigned permission to the user and still cannot make a remote connection how can I make sure that nothing is blocking this connection?
[19:19] <hex``> If there is a package called python2.4-dev, why isn't it found when 'sudo apt-get install python2.4-dev"? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/python2.4-dev
[19:19] <dragonfly> hex``: are you running hardy?
[19:20] <actarus> ciao
[19:20] <deadmund> libre office doesn't let you vertically align text?
[19:20] <actarus> !list
[19:20] <rattatoue> hex``, if your in the latest viersion of ubuntu its 2.7 not 2.4
[19:20] <pangolin> and if you are running hardy, you need to upgrade.
[19:20] <dragonfly> deadmund: sure it does
[19:20] <deadmund> dragonfly: where is the option?
[19:21] <hex``> dragonfly rattatoue ooops... sorry, I didn't see the name of the version. ty
[19:21] <aethelrick> deadmund: yes it does, use an indent
[19:21] <dragonfly> deadmund: what type of aligning are you trying to accomplish
[19:21] <deadmund> I have a paragraph at the top of the page, I want to vertically aligned in the middle of the page.
[19:21] <rattatoue> hex``, np..I only knew that cause I code python too
[19:22] <aethelrick> deadmund: when you say vertically align, what do you mean?
[19:22] <blackarchan> so im making a custom distro for me and some friends with remastersys but the custom launchers(Home,Firefox,LAMP,Scripts)  don`t appear i must drag them manualy from .local/share/applications
[19:22] <Rico-Suave> ctrl alt f1 did not do nothing, the screen was still black
[19:22] <deadmund> aethelrick: How many kinds of vertical alignment are there?  I want the paragraph in the middle of the page (not left and right middle, that's horizontal) I want up and down middle (vertical centering)
[19:23] <deadmund> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/doityourself-it-guy/diy-vertical-alignment-of-text-in-libreoffice/1369  This suggests some silly hack with a table
[19:23] <rattatoue> Rico-Suave, if you get grub at the beginning try loading up single user mode
[19:23] <deadmund> Here's a bug report confirming my suggestion that libre-office won't vertically align text: https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=36117
[19:24] <bellman> OU818: thank u, I know that win7 Ultimate is more powerful and will harness the hyper threading better but someone has put a parental control on my win7 ultimate partition
[19:24] <rattatoue> OU818, are you trying to access the files on that partition or something?
[19:25] <Rico-Suave> at he beggining i get the screen that says run ubuntu, and some other stuff but under other options there is nothing there
[19:25] <Rico-Suave> some people say to load nomode or something like that but i dont know where to type that
[19:25] <Rico-Suave> if my screen is black
[19:26] <moky> hi
[19:26] <rattatoue> Rico-Suave, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/
[19:27] <blackarchan> so im making a custom distro for me and some friends with remastersys but the custom launchers(Home,Firefox,LAMP,Scripts)  don`t appear i must drag them manualy from .local/share/applications and i don`t have in .gconf/desktop Unity folder so anny help?
[19:27] <moky> any one can write arabi
[19:27] <Rico-Suave> thank you rattatoue ill try that brb :-)
[19:28] <wunnle> hello.
[19:29] <repozitor> how to run this sample
[19:29] <repozitor> http://ab-initio.mit.edu/wiki/index.php/Meep_Tutorial#A_90.C2.B0_bend
[19:29] <kwc> blackarchan try presiing ctr+h then you will see it
[19:29] <milen8204> why my keyboard loyal does not show the flags, when i have done gconf-editor settings (set tick on showflags), and have us.png and bg.png in /usr/share/pixmaps
[19:29] <repozitor> http://ab-initio.mit.edu/wiki/index.php/Meep_Tutorial#A_90.C2.B0_bend
[19:29] <OU818> rattatoue: bellman is trying to circumvent his parental lock
[19:30] <aethelrick> deadmund: i would normally use a frame if i wanted to do that. can't say i do it often though
[19:30] <wunnle> i use 2 different os's in my computer, win and ubuntu. Everytime i switch to ubuntu, my mouse scroll rate increases ridiculously. if i plug it out and in, it becomes normal. do you have any idea what causes this?
[19:30] <deadmund> aethelrick: ok thanks
[19:31] <aethelrick> deadmund: usually only for a cover page or similar? lets hope they add the feature suggested i. th bugzilla report for those who need it
[19:32] <repozitor> help me plz :(
[19:32] <blackarchan> kwc: i don`t see it with ctr+h or without ctr+h
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> wunnle: is it part of a laptop?
[19:32] <OU818> bellman: your best bet is to get an install of Damn Small Linux and then install virtualbox and inside virtual box run win7 ultimate, you wont be quite as fast but you will get around the protection in place
[19:33] <deadmund> aethelrick: agreed :)
[19:33] <blackarchan> i have only gnome pvg unity-2d
[19:33] <wunnle> ActionParsnip, nope, it's a usb bluetooth mouse.
[19:33] <blackarchan> pgp sorry
[19:33] <wunnle> ActionParsnip, but i use a laptop.
[19:34] <milen8204> why my keyboard loyal does not show the flags, when i have done gconf-editor settings (set tick on showflags), and have us.png and bg.png in /usr/share/pixmaps
[19:35] <Rico-Suave> ok i am back lol rattaue i dont get that screen that u showed me on the link
[19:35] <Rico-Suave> so i cant get to the kernel and type in single
[19:35] <d4gg3r> hey there, do you guys know any good implementation of NNTP server which is reliable by experience?
[19:36] <gswallow> Hello,  I have been having problems installing sun-java6-jdk since Friday and now I"m getting this: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/partner/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[19:36] <gswallow> why?
[19:36] <d4gg3r> hey there, do you guys know any good implementation of NNTP server which is reliable by experience?
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> wunnle: what mouse is it, logitech by any chance
[19:37] <bellman> d4gg3r:  teranews is a good free option  or for paid options use astraweb or usenetserver
[19:37] <wunnle> ActionParsnip, nope, microsoft wireless mouse 3500.
[19:37] <zykotick9> gswallow: unrelated to your issue at hand, but sun-java has (or should have been) removed from partner repo.  Install direct from Oracle is only option now.
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> gswallow: try http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage
[19:37] <gswallow> zykotick: heh
[19:37] <gswallow> ok
[19:38] <d4gg3r> gswallow, sun Java is removed from due to some licensing issues. go to Oracle website and install
[19:38] <d4gg3r> bellman, will give it a try tnx
[19:38] <gswallow> that explains why things have been wonky since Friday.  Damned Larry Ellison
[19:38] <gswallow> thanks
[19:38] <kwc> blackarchan go to your home folder an the press ctrl+h this should show all hidden files you should get what you want there
[19:38] <Antares> Official Java 1.7 will be OpenJDK, so it's just a temporary issue. :P
[19:38] <Rico-Suave> how do i get to the grub screen?
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> wunnle: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/9200
[19:39] <zykotick9> Rico-Suave: HOLD shift after BIOS (assumes grub2)
[19:39] <blackarchan> kwc: i don`t have a folder for unity in .gconf/desktop i don`t have any unity folder only unity-2d i don`t know where else to look
[19:40] <Rico-Suave> ok ill try that
[19:41] <MagePsycho> how to find the sapce available via ssh?
[19:41] <AdminPC-TB2012> I was wondering how can I be supported to ubuntu if it does not work for me I wish it does.
[19:41] <MagePsycho> space*
[19:41] <kiffer84> @MagePsycho: try running df -h
[19:41] <d4gg3r> bellman, teranews seems to be a usenet "service" I am looking for a software to install and configure myself. I need to run some benchmarks for NNTP
[19:42] <Antares> Is there an easy way to remove the workspaces button from the Launcher? I'm using Unity 2D. :P
[19:43] <wunnle> ActionParsnip, looks like plug out-in is the solution?
[19:43] <MagePsycho> thanks kiffer84
[19:43] <kiffer84> np
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> wunnle: if you add lines to the xorg.conf file, it may help
[19:44] <eckological>     /set irc_conf_mode on
[19:44] <blackarchan> so does anyone nows where unity saves settings like order of the launchers?
[19:45] <AdminPC-TB2012> how can I get a full install of ubuntu not just installing 658MB is there a bigger .iso
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Antares: http://www.ubunturoot.com/2011/02/remove-and-rearrange-items-in-unity-2d.html
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> blackarchan: you can rearrange them with the mouse....
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: there is the DVD ISO....
[19:46] <blackarchan> ActionParsnip i need a xml or somthing because i need it for remastersys
[19:46] <Jordan_U> AdminPC-TB2012: What do you not consider "full" about a default install? Why can't you install what more you need afterward?
[19:46] <Antares> Thanks ActionParsnip. :P
[19:47] <kwc> blackarchan try http://askubuntu.com/questions/51010/no-unity-2d-folder-in-gconf-editor-desktop
[19:47] <shadaloo> hi there I edited Unity Plugin in CCSM and it's not making the icons in the dock smaller
[19:47] <AdminPC-TB2012> ActionParsnip: Jordan_U: I was wondering because there alot of files that dont install right and there is not a good way to get my drivers to work. I was wondering how can I get all them to work find with no problem is there a site to go to. And if there is a site were is it lol:)
[19:47] <shadaloo> any ideas?
[19:48] <regaman> What's so good about unity
[19:48] <regaman> I mean who gives a shit
[19:48] <shadaloo> not a whole lot
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: drivers for what?
[19:48] <Jordan_U> !language | regaman
[19:48] <acuozzo> I have SSHD configured to _only_ use PasswordAuthentication. I'm assuming that PAM is out of the question in this case. Am I correct?
[19:48] <Antares> I like it for my laptop.
[19:48] <shadaloo> !language | Jordan_U
[19:48] <acuozzo> out of the picture*
[19:49] <gswallow> Sorry to be a pest: is it possible, if sun-java6-jdk has been removed from the partner repository, that it hasn't been removed from all the servers?
[19:49] <Antares> It's easier to switch between windows with superkey + # rather than using the touchpad.
[19:49] <AdminPC-TB2012> ActionParsnip: Like my main drivers PCI,Graphics,sound,wireless,etc.
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> AdminPC-TB2012: the default driver set will be the same in any ubuntu install
[19:50] <shadaloo> hi there I edited Unity Plugin in CCSM and it's not making the icons in the dock smaller
[19:50] <shadaloo> any ideas?
[19:50] <AdminPC-TB2012> ActionParsnip: That can't be right  because when I try to even install Ubuntu 10.04 it does not go to default drivers like you said am not getting this at all.
[19:51] <blackarchan> kwc:thats for unity-2d and i tried it dosen`t work....but i heard that gconf-editor dosen`t work with unity
[19:51] <frox> Where can you find the MTU limit of your ethernet driver, besides testing with ifconfig?
[19:51] <crizzy> shadaloo: that doesn't affect unity2d btw..
[19:51] <shadaloo> crizzy: ahhh that would be why
[19:51] <shadaloo> crizzy: cheers
[19:51] <Halexander9000> Greetings from Eastern Europe! Something's wrong with my Ubuntu Software Center, it can't download any package I tell it to. And it's obviously not my connection, since I'm talking to you guys. Could someone please help me?
[19:52] <Jordan_U> Halexander9000: Can you try running "sudo apt-get install hello" in a terminal, and pastebin the output?
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[19:53] <regaman> Damned ram bastions.  McJellio oper Smelly gruthergrarin trilaxals.  withers ground ring air  Puggle dee maggle dee mack traggle  Jeremy sniggle. Jeremy spoken, in next day  I brusht boyered, I kicked a ball!  mellaminorf  troll protectors, trolls on the road!  troll protectors, their stones of power glow!
[19:53] <FloodBot1> regaman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:53] <g0bl1n> disconnecting my external TFT won't bring back the launcher (11.10). Any hint ?
[19:54] <zulax> the virtual box software says x86
[19:54] <Halexander9000> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/a4VGfw2K
[19:54] <zulax> cant i use it for 64 bit os virtualization?
[19:54] <saquib> j
[19:55] <g0bl1n> need to go to display settings and change settings and reset them.
[19:55] <Geodesical> Hello! I run 9.04 (EOL), and when I try to put a disc to transfer the newest version, I cannot open any programs, and the disc doesn't read. Also happens when I put in any other kind of disc. Any help?
[19:55] <Jordan_U> Halexander9000: Try running "sudo apt-get update" that should hopefully get rid of the error about unauthenticated packages, and will also therefore probably fix Software Center.
[19:56] <Jordan_U> Geodesical: Can you boot from a recent Ubuntu LiveCD?
[19:57] <zykotick9> zulax: your CPU would have to support virtualization for that to work
[19:57] <Halexander9000> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/qFP5s3iw
[19:57] <Geodesical> @Jordan_U: No when the disc is inserted any open windows close and the desktop is shown.
[19:57] <zulax> zykotick9, i have done virtualization on my box before, never noticed the x86 before,
[19:58] <Laurenceb_> hi, has anyone here got cadsoft eagle6 to work with ubuntu 10.04LTS?
[19:58] <Laurenceb_> i have an issue with libpng14
[19:58] <zulax> does that mean only 32bit virtualization is pobbible so far?
[19:58] <zykotick9> zulax: egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo --color=always
[19:58] <Laurenceb_> http://www.element14.com/community/thread/15744
[19:58] <int_ua> Hi. Anyone knows where is the official bug tracker for bsdutils? Specifically renice.
[19:58] <Laurenceb_> i have tried that, but eagle is still giving a warning that the library is missing
[19:58] <Antares> zulax: I have mounted 64-bit Linux distros via VirtualBox.
[19:58] <rattatoue> I have a bunch of files that filename-randomletters, how would I remove the -randomletters part from the file name in terminal?
[19:59] <Laurenceb_> do i have to sync something or something?
[19:59] <Geodesical> Jordan_U: No when the disc is inserted any open windows close and the desktop is shown.
[19:59] <zulax> zykotick9, is shows vmx
[19:59] <OU818> rattatoue: look into the sed command
[19:59] <zulax> Antares, from ubuntu or Windows?
[19:59] <zykotick9> zulax: then you "should" be able to virtualize 64bit (though i'm not sure why you'd want to)
[19:59] <Antares> Zulax: From Windows 7 64-bit.
[20:00] <Jordan_U> Geodesical: I don't think you understood the question, let me rephrase it as two questions. 1: Can you use another machine to make an Ubuntu 11.10 LiveCD, or otherwise obtain an Ubuntu 11.10 LiveCD? 2: If yes to 1, what happens when you reboot with said CD in your CDROM drive?
[20:00] <zulax> zykotick9, i need some binaries of 64 bit centos
[20:00] <zulax> Antares, i am concerned cause when i download the virtual box from package manager it says x86 virtualization
[20:01] <zulax> meaning i could only virtualize 32 bit os from it ?
[20:01] <Geodesical> 1: No, other computer is Mac '96. 2: I would have to try that. Where can I obtain said disc?
[20:01] <zykotick9> zulax: amd64 (aka x86_64)
[20:01] <rutek666> hi all
[20:01] <Antares> Zulax: I created a virtual machine for Linux 2.6 and mounted Linux Mint 12 64-bit edition onto it.
[20:02] <zulax> ok, thanks, thats helps alot
[20:02] <Jordan_U> Geodesical: You can get an Ubuntu CD using a friend's computer, or buy one to be shipped to you via http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=915
[20:03] <zulax> zykotick9, what would 32 bit be called as then?
[20:03] <zykotick9> zulax: x86
[20:03] <zulax> zykotick9, well Virtual box specifically says x86 virtualization of x86 OS
[20:03] <Deihmos> ok I just installed ubuntu? how do you add a theme?
[20:04] <Geodesical> Jordan_U: Thank you. Does the OS of the other computer matter (Windows, Mac), or is that irrelevant/
[20:04] <Jordan_U> Geodesical: If you have a working USB drive, whose contents you don't mind losing, that can be used as well.
[20:04] <zykotick9> zulax: though i think you'll see i386 in "uname -m" ;)
[20:04] <zykotick9> zulax: notice how x86_64 starts with x86?
[20:04] <zulax> x86_64
[20:04] <graabein> Hi I've got a question about different user from Transmission daemon and my regular user
[20:05] <Jordan_U> Geodesical: Any OS can be used to burn the CD, there are instructions for burning from Windows, Mac, and Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[20:05] <zykotick9> zulax: if you see x86_64 that's 64bit?  is that the host or guest?
[20:05] <starn> i am in need of help with this.. it's to do with sound and using multiple jacks eg: headphones and speakers etc.  http://pastebin.com/pp48atJE  is my pastebin.
[20:05] <Geodesical> Jordan_U: Okay, thanx
[20:05] <zulax> my machine (host) is 64, but the virtualbox software apparently supports only 32 bit virtualization for linux
[20:06] <zykotick9> zulax: no
[20:06] <zulax> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[20:06] <zulax> checked there as well, there is no 64 for linux
[20:06] <zulax> nm, i think its 64 also
[20:07] <giorgio> ciao
[20:07] <zulax> off to download, thanks for help
[20:07] <giorgio> !list
[20:07] <ikonia> zulax: virtal box is available for 64bit
[20:07] <romeyro> hello guys i m trying to install wireshark on my ubuntu but I have some troubles with dependencies. can anyone help please ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/850434/
[20:07] <zykotick9> !it | giorgio
[20:07] <zulax> ciao giorgio, tutto bene
[20:07] <Deihmos> is it better to install x86. SO far things have been a bit buggy
[20:07] <zulax> i only want few binaries, to i think ishould be fine
[20:08] <zulax> isnt there a way i could get those binaries without having to compile myself or having to download the entire os ?
[20:08] <ikonia> romeyro: whoevery built the repo you are using to get wireshark can't manage dependencies, please ask him to fix the repo
[20:08] <ikonia> zulax: what do you want
[20:08] <zulax> ikonia, vorbil tools binaries for centos 5.x 64 bit
[20:09] <ikonia> zulax: this is an ubuntu support channel, what do you want for ubuntu ?
[20:09] <zulax> well i m on ubuntu, just asking about 64 bit virtualization
[20:09] <zykotick9> zulax: using binaries from other distros is a bad idea
[20:09] <ikonia> zulax: what is your ubuntu question
[20:10] <zulax> thats way i m virtualizing
[20:10] <romeyro> ikonia, ah ok, thank you :)
[20:12] <int_ua> anyone knows where is the upstream bsdutils bug tracker?
[20:13] <memee> bonsoir
[20:14] <h00k> !fr | memee
[20:15] <zykotick9> int_ua: if you use ubuntu, you should report the bug to ubuntu - let them deal with the upstream.  I'm guessing it comes from debian?
[20:15] <viktor133> i installed an app via software center, and it's impossible to find, so i can't compile or install it. can anybody help me with that pls?
[20:16] <viktor133> euhm, nevermind that
[20:18] <Deihmos> how do you change the theme ? When I go to change background i see no way to change the theme
[20:19] <xangua> !info gnome-tweak-tool | Deihmos
[20:19] <Antares> Below the screen thing, there is Ambience by default.
[20:19] <marcellus> What would be cause if the global menu bar of firefox disappeared?
[20:19] <Antares> There are 4 themes in there, I think you can add more.
[20:19] <Deihmos> i need to install something to change the theme?
[20:19] <Deihmos> coming like mac os
[20:20] <Deihmos> also is the x86 version more stable? i installed x64 and had so many crashes and lockups
[20:20] <Antares> You can install additional themes, but there aren't too many in there by default.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: if you want to change thewallpaper you can right click the desktop and click 'change desktop background'
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: both are just as stable
[20:21] <Antares> The theme selection is in Appearance, under the monitor preview thing.
[20:21] <blackarchan> how can i change the default settings in dconf-editor desktop > unity > launcher ?? so that new users use that settings?
[20:22] <Deihmos>  iknow how to chnage the wallpaper. justs did not see a way to install a new theme like in the old versions of ubuntu
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> blackarchan: you can add things in /etc/skel and users will get it
[20:22] <guntbert> DLNA/UPnP: I installed python-coherence and totem-plugins-extra but neither rhythmbox nor totem show a plugin that could be enabled. What is wrong?
[20:23] <blackarchan> ActionParsnip: yea that i now but i don`t have a folder in .gconf/desktop for unity so i think is some wear else
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> blackarchan: its in dconf
[20:25] <blackarchan> ActionParsnip: oke im gonna copy dconf to in /etc/skel to see whats happening tnx
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> blackarchan: its that kind of thinf
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> *thing
[20:26] <aptgetinstall> Hello. Is there a way (or an application) to print standalone with gutenprint without using GIMP? Any help is appreciated, Thank you in advance.
[20:26] <starn> i am in need of help with this.. it's to do with sound and using multiple jacks eg: headphones and speakers etc.  http://pastebin.com/pp48atJE  is my pastebin.
[20:27] <int_ua> zykotick9: thanks, will try that
[20:27] <aptgetinstall> starn, earcandy will do the job. Get is with sudo apt-get install earcandy.
[20:27] <zykotick9> !bugs | int_ua
[20:29] <aptgetinstall> Hello. Is there a way (or an application) to print standalone with gutenprint without using GIMP? Any help is appreciated, Thank you in advance.
[20:30] <rymate1234|mc> sorry
[20:30] <int_ua> ubottu: thanks, It's just the design issue, so I thought that upstream would be better. But let's start with launchpad :)
[20:30] <rymate1234|mc> I'm not away
[20:30] <nicololslug> salve a tutti... buona sera, una domanda, sto creando una live distro usb partendo da ubuntu 11.10 ora vorrei che il sistema oltre a vari software avesse precaricati anche i driver nvidia e sta broadcom sapete come fare? io ho provato a installarli da pacchetto deb ma una volta avviato questi driver non ci sono
[20:30] <xcyclist> I cannot find the sound piping configuration thingy in this new and improved desktop
[20:30] <zykotick9> !it | nicololslug
[20:30] <guntbert> !it | nicololslug
[20:30] <int_ua> :)
[20:31] <nicololslug> excuse me
[20:31] <int_ua> Leaving
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> aptgetinstall: so you want to print from command like a lot of images?
[20:31] <aptgetinstall> yes
[20:31] <aptgetinstall> but, I want to use gui like in gimp.
[20:32] <aptgetinstall> And gutenprint is more versatile than standard printing.
[20:32] <aptgetinstall> Or will the gimp irc give me better advice?
[20:33] <starn> aptgetinstall: earcandy isn't doing what i am wanting...
[20:34] <starn> aptgetinstall: it might work if i knew how to configure my hardware stuff to show more than just one sound thingy..
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> aptgetinstall: the guys in #bash may know a way
[20:36] <h00k> .14
[20:36] <nikkubhai> Hi! Can anyone please explain me the difference between openssh and openvpn
[20:36] <h00k> nikkubhai: ssh is secure shell host, and vpn is virtual private network
[20:37] <nikkubhai> So, can I use vpn to let others access internet from my comp
[20:37] <nikkubhai> Just like port forwarding in ssh?
[20:37] <crond> Hi, can someone tell me why every time I install something with apt, I get '0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded' - the 7 not upgraded bit
[20:38] <h00k> nikkubhai: perhaps. SSH uses an application-layer protocol, and VPN is an IP layer solution
[20:38] <zykotick9> crond: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" would probably take care of those
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> crond: if you run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade    are some reported as 'held back'?
[20:38] <nibbler> nikkubhai, try to tunnel udp via ssh
[20:39] <nikkubhai> how?
[20:39] <crond> ActionParsnip, yes, they were.  I don't understand why?
[20:39] <h00k> nikkubhai: if you want to extend your entire network to those machines, you could set up a VPN connection betwe n them and you
[20:39] <nibbler> nikkubhai, not at all. thats (one of) the difference
[20:39] <ratcheer> crond: The not upgraded packages are there to be installed, but some of their dependencies on other packages are not yet met. It is usually best to wait a while to see if the dependencies become resolved with future upgrades.
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> crond: the deps for those packages are not ready, although the packages themselves are in the repos
[20:39] <h00k> !vpn | nikkubhai
[20:40] <crond> ActionParsnip, ah okay so I should not yet install them, then, correct?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> crond: whenall the deps have been put into the repo, they will be installed
[20:40] <aptgetinstall> I want to use a GUI to print jpegs with Gutenprint.
[20:40] <crond> excellent, thanks!
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> crond: they will come down when everything is ready
[20:40] <zykotick9> ratcheer: your statement will not apply in all situations, "apt-get upgrade" does not install NEW packages, the dist-upgrade will
[20:40] <aptgetinstall> Not use bash, because it is easier installing an app and running it than making up code :)
[20:40] <nikkubhai> hOOk : Yes. I want to allow some users to access internet using my connection
[20:41] <csddesk>  usb ports are going cold...
[20:41] <stercor> compiz takes about 45% of my CPU.  Is it a necessary program?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> stercor: it draws the windows and pretty effects you use
[20:42] <ratcheer> zykotick9: I meant upgrades of packages that are already installed. Same as what ActionParsnip said.
[20:42] <stercor> ActionParsnip: oh...I looked it up and it does 'extra' things.  I just wondered what the effect of removing it would be.
[20:43] <saryth> Hai
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> stercor: just log into the desktop with no effects, or Unity2D and it will not be used
[20:43] <Seryth> I've just bought a new printer, a Canon Pixma IP4200. I've plugged it in, and unfortunately (but predictably!) it's not worked for plug and play. I have a driver CD with Mac/Windows files on...but...welll yeah, this is ubuntu! (xubuntu). Just wondering if this guide would still be valid:http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-a-canon-all-in-one-printer-working-with-ubuntu.html
[20:44] <Seryth> !printer > Seryth
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> Seryth: go to the canon site and grab the driver there, a lot of the time there are Linux printer drivers
[20:44] <Seryth> ActionParsnip: I'll check it out, ty.
[20:45] <stercor> ActionParsnip: Hmmm... on my LinuxMint compiz is there, but takes 0-1% of the CPU.  Reboot maybe?
[20:46] <phpn00b> how does Ubuntu compare to Windows?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Seryth: http://www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/printers/InkJet/PIXMA_iP_series/iP4200.aspx?DLtcmuri=tcm:14-743106&page=1&type=download
[20:46] <iceroot> phpn00b: try it
[20:46] <Seryth> ActionParsnip: Just found that place myself now!
[20:46] <zykotick9> phpn00b: how do apples compare to oranges?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> stercor: sure, why not
[20:46] <stercor> ActionParsnip: Yeah...the Windows solution.
[20:46] <Seryth> phpn00b: If you're not sure whether to try it or not, install VirtualBox first, and give it a whirl. alternatively, use the liveCD for a bit, but you won't be able to save any data.#
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> stercor: it fixes much and is free.
[20:47] <stercor> ActionParsnip: lol.
[20:47] <stercor> bbl.
[20:49] <saryth> Hey, sometimes, in firefox, .exe and zip are registered to notepad. Is there anyway to change them to their programs?
[20:49] <iceroot> saryth: exe and notepad has nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:49] <iceroot> saryth: ##windows
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> saryth: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[20:50] <xangua> saryth: right clic on the file - properties
[20:50] <phpn00b> how do I schedule a backup of my home folder?
[20:50] <saryth> .exe, as in wine
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: you can use windows executables in WIne
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> !backup | phpn00b
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> saryth: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[20:50] <saryth> ActionParship: oneiric
[20:50] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: users which are using firefox with wine so that there is a notepad entry should go directly to ##windows
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: firefox will be a native app, the config of file associtaion will be an ubuntu misconfiguration...
[20:51] <saryth> I have no trace of windows, other than wine, on this box.
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> saryth: is firefox running via wine?
[20:51] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: but i dont see where "notepad" should came from
[20:52] <saryth> Notepad comes with wine
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: if you install wine, you get notepad as part of the install
[20:52] <saryth> ActionParsnip:It's native.
[20:52] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: hm never noticed that, thanks
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> saryth: cool, ok lets see
[20:52] <phpn00b> ActionParsnip, I don't want to backup my whole system. Only my home folder
[20:53] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: Hey, I'm back... even though the gamepad works in terminal under xboxdrv, it only works intermitently in actual games and programs
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> saryth: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860433
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: I'd contact the PPA maintainer of the app
[20:54] <TheLogan> Hi folks =)
[20:54] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I got his email and sent him a message
[20:54] <ratcheer> phpn00b: Deja Dup would be easy to do that with.
[20:54] <Laurenceb_> hi
[20:55] <Laurenceb_> can someone help me install libopenssl 1.0.0 on ubuntu 10.04LTS
[20:55] <TheLogan> Im trying to convert from windows to ubuntu, i have a problem with the installation process. at the moment i have three different cd's 1 with 10.10 one with 11.10 x386 and one with 11.10 x64
[20:55] <TheLogan> The only one i can get working is the 10.10 version
[20:55] <Laurenceb_> ive built from source but its not installed
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> phpn00b: then just copy it all to a removable storage device, I use a cron'd cp job which runs and copies the lot
[20:55] <PatrickBic> TheLogan, problem is?
[20:55] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: Sorry if I was begining to get a little bitchy earlier, I hate it when things don't go right with programs/apps/peripherals
[20:56] <TheLogan> so i want to ask, is it possible to install 10.10 and then update to 11.11? or is that like going from win xp to win7?
[20:56] <saryth> ActionParsnip: It's associated with Wine and Archive Manager, for exe and zip respectively, however, they show up as unknown in FF and open in notepad
[20:56] <PatrickBic> TheLogan, totally possible
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: np, there seems to be light. Its not something I've used. Nor do I own an Xbox
[20:56] <TheLogan> Awesome, then thats what im going to do. Thanks PatrickBic =)
[20:56] <PatrickBic> either use the update UI or run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> saryth: doesn't firefox have its own associations...?
[20:56] <PatrickBic> UI most likely for you
[20:56] <xangua> TheLogan: you can upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 and then to 11.10
[20:57] <saryth> ActionParsnip: Lemme check....
[20:57] <PatrickBic> xangua, well.. ofc ;) but i thought he meant more like "can i get from 10.10 to 11.10 somehow"
[20:57] <TheLogan> Ok, yea ive programmed for 2 years (in unity3D) but my knowledge of commandline in windows is next to nil.. so UI it is ^^
[20:58] <TheLogan> yea, i wanted to know if its possible, knowing how to is even better thanks both of you PatrickBic and xangua =)
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> TheLogan: if you want CLI in Windows, use powershell ;)
[20:58] <PatrickBic> TheLogan, UI tells you like "there is a new version, do you want to update" (dont remember the exact wording but.. w/e)
[20:58] <TheLogan> ActionParsnip: CLI? =)
[20:58] <PatrickBic> command line interface
[20:58] <TheLogan> PatrickBic: awesome
[20:58] <saryth> ActionParsnip: Yes, but both are set to "Always ask". It asks, but only gives me notepad as an option
[20:58] <TheLogan> heh, i barely use commandline unless i really cant avoid it =)
[20:59] <ssta> never use notepad...not for *anything*
[20:59] <danileigh79> TheLogan: it comes in andy a lot here in Ubuntu/Linux
[20:59] <danileigh79> TheLogan: *handy
[20:59] <adamus> hi
[20:59] <rumble-pack> how can i access a site loading at 127.0.0.1 remotely?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> ssta: its in the things you get in Wine...
[20:59] <dtfdtf> hi everyone! a little help please. I've just installed vlc (...apt-get install vlc) but when tried to play AVI, there's sound but no picture. Any ideas?
[20:59] <TheLogan> yea, i can imagine, and im sure as i dig deeper im going to learn it, but i'd like a gentle start, heh
[20:59] <dtfdtf> i'm on Ubuntu 10
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> rumble-pack: by accessing its LAN IP over the network
[21:00] <adamus> m on 11
[21:00] <PatrickBic> dtfdtf, compositing?
[21:00] <ssta> ActionParsnip: no reason to use it...notepad is...dreadful
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> dtfdtf: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:00] <dtfdtf> what is compositing?
[21:00] <dtfdtf> no
[21:00] <dtfdtf> did not yet install ubuntu-restricted-extra
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> ssta: its not bad for quick edits. running it via wine is fairly useless
[21:00] <dtfdtf> shall i do this now?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> dtfdtf: that's why then'
[21:00] <rumble-pack> ActionParsnip, can you show me the format for doing that?
[21:00] <danileigh79> TheLogan: There really isn't a gentle start when it comes ti Ubuntu/Linux... Just remember, sudo means godlike and you have to becareful what you do :P
[21:01] <PatrickBic> dtfdtf, install them :P
[21:01] <gswallow> archive.canonical.com.	153	IN	A	91.189.92.191
[21:01] <gswallow> archive.canonical.com.	153	IN	A	91.189.88.33
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> rumble-pack: what service are you accessing?
[21:01] <PatrickBic> ActionParsnip, doesnt vlc have issues when using compositing?
[21:01] <dtfdtf> ah, this is where all the codecs are ?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> PatrickBic: none here that I know of
[21:01] <PatrickBic> dtfdtf, some of them :P
[21:01] <ssta> ActionParsnip: it mangles line endings, plays games with encodings...it's asking for pain
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> dtfdtf: its a handy pack for installing codecs, yes
[21:01] <PatrickBic> ActionParsnip, must be some other player then, my fault
[21:01] <rumble-pack> ActionParsnip, its a simple node.js script
[21:01] <PatrickBic> w32codecs (if its still avail)
[21:01] <dtfdtf> ok. cool. is that all??
[21:01] <rumble-pack> running as a server
[21:02] <PatrickBic> dtfdtf, give it a try ;)
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> dtfdtf: try the package I gave then rerun the player, you will need TAB and ENTER to accept the license
[21:02] <saryth> Here's a image of my problem
[21:02] <saryth> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1630307/Opening Minecraft.exe_010.png
[21:02] <danileigh79> dtfdtf: get the extras package, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, and you should be good
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> rumble-pack: and how do you access it on the local system?
[21:02] <danileigh79> brb, smoke break
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> saryth: link is bad
[21:03] <dlentz> avi is just a container, and i don't think you need restricted-extras for it IIRC
[21:03] <dlentz> it would depend on the video format in the container
[21:03] <rumble-pack> ActionParsnip, by navigating to http://127.0.0.1:Port in my browser
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> dlentz: its good to install though
[21:03] <TheSimkin> vlc just plays everything anyhow
[21:03] <dlentz> ActionParsnip,  fair enough
[21:03] <TheSimkin> i'm a bit ticked that vlc 2.0 isn't available for linux though. who the heck does that.
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> rumble-pack: then use your LAN IP and access the same port number
[21:03] <Dimmuxx> anybody got sandy bridge vaapi working in vlc?
[21:03] <dtfdtf> danileigh79, i'm almost finished installing the ubuntu-restricted-extra... do i still do the upgrade?
[21:03] <dlentz> TheSimkin, it's in Precise already
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> saryth: do you use the dropbox app in Ubuntu?
[21:04] <danileigh79> dtfdtf: upgrade in terminal means to install the updates, so yes
[21:04] <ratcheer> TheSimkin: There are instructions on OMG Ubuntu and other places on how to install the new VLC from PPA
[21:04] <saryth> ActionParsnip: Yes, I uploaded it directly from Shutter, however. Here's a new link
[21:04] <adamus> anyy help with k-mail
[21:04] <adamus> it doesn't work
[21:04] <adamus> i used with ubuntu 10 and 11
[21:04] <adamus>  any suggestion
[21:04] <saryth> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1630307/Opening_%20Minecraft.exe_010.png
[21:04] <FloodBot1> adamus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:04] <adamus> need help pls
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> saryth: in the public folder, you can right click a file and under the dropbox entry you can click to copy the public address
[21:05] <romeyro> i m using ubuntu 10.10 do i have to upgrade it to the 11.10 ?
[21:05] <adamus> ok floodBot1
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> saryth: drop down the box and click 'other app...'
[21:05] <dtfdtf> ok danileigh79, will keep this in mind.
[21:05] <mg__> romeyro: no, you don't have to, you can if you want to.
[21:05] <rumble-pack> ActionParsnip, i guess i have to open it through my firewall
[21:05] <xangua> (14:50:13) xangua: saryth: right clic on the file - properties
[21:05] <dlentz> romeyro, you don't have to, but offivial support for 10.10 ends April 30
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> rumble-pack: yes if you have configured your firewall
[21:06] <xangua> romeyro: well you have to upgrade to something when 10.10 supports end
[21:06] <rumble-pack> ok thanks
[21:06] <saryth> ActionParsnip: It's a Find File, I'm assuming I'm going to have to find Wine and Archive manager files manually?
[21:06] <dlentz> romeyro, if you don't like upgrading, then i suggest using 12.04 LTS when it's released
[21:06] <tester> pl
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> saryth: wine will be /usr/bin/wine
[21:07] <romeyro> xangua, dlentz   its because i really dont like unity
[21:07] <adamus> i asked also the antivirus installation in ubuntu any help?
[21:07] <dlentz> yeah, i figured, but i wasn't going to say it.. :P
[21:07] <TheLogan> danileigh79: ok ^^ oh well, ill handle it =D
[21:07] <starn> i am in need of help with this.. it's to do with sound and using multiple jacks eg: headphones and speakers etc.  http://pastebin.com/pp48atJE  is my pastebin.  i am on Dell Dimension E521
[21:08] <Laurenceb_> can someone help me install libssl 1.0.0 on ubuntu 10.04LTS?
[21:08] <phpn00b> are there any alternative to MS Exchange server?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | Laurenceb_
[21:08] <dlentz> starn, what media player are you using?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> phpn00b: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[21:09] <danileigh79_2> TheLogan, I was just being funny... Ubuntu forums helped me out a lot when I first start using Ubuntu
[21:09] <starn> At the moment Clementine
[21:09] <dlentz> starn, also pastebinning alsa info might help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/AlsaInfo
[21:09] <saryth> ActionParsnip: It opens in wine once, but then, with a new download, it says notepad again.
[21:09] <phpn00b> ActionParsnip, Exchange is more than just a mail server
[21:09] <romeyro> dlentz, because there are some tools i want to install but in my repository its still the old version for the dependencies, and it wont install them
[21:09] <rtdos> is it possible to create a temporary 'guest' account so that when the user logs out what ever he saved is deleted or removed and the next 'guest' to login has a 'clean slate' ?
[21:09] <tester> hi. how .. cat /dev/urandom multi output ? to screen and /dev/dupa ?
[21:10] <reCAPTCHA> Hi! I have a USB keyboard connected to my laptop... so, how can I disable my laptop keyboard.
[21:10] <reCAPTCHA> ?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> saryth: download the file.Right click the file and change association there
[21:10] <saryth> Rtdos: That is a default account, I believe.
[21:10] <dtfdtf> uhh, just wondering why it is called restricted-extras ??
[21:10] <danileigh79_2> Recaptcha, what kind of laptop
[21:10] <dlentz> romeyro, that's why i prefer rolling releases (using debian sid)
[21:11] <saryth> ActionParsnip: It's just awkward if I want the file only once, but I guess that's my only option. Thanks anway.
[21:11] <saryth> anyway*
[21:11] <TheSimkin> because it contains some stuff that has patent technology or licenses from other companies.
[21:11] <TheSimkin> it's kinda questionable in that it's not completely free
[21:11] <reCAPTCHA> danileigh79_2: MacBook
[21:11] <dtfdtf> ooh
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> saryth: http://www.ehow.com/how_2033405_manage-file-type.html  may help
[21:11] <aBound> dtfdtf, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[21:11] <starn> dlentz: http://pastebin.com/JcebGXAC  there you go.
[21:11] <dlentz> dtfdtf, because it's restricted to non-fascist countries
[21:11] <TheLogan> danileigh79_2: Well, I've used computers all my life so I'll probably manage, but if I do run into something big and scary i can probably just hide out here with you guys ;)
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> saryth: http://askubuntu.com/questions/20015/firefox-application-associations-not-working   maybe
[21:12] <dtfdtf> i had no idea of its political standpoint. lol.
[21:12] <dlentz> starn, is ytour headset not plugged in?
[21:13] <starn> dlentz: it's plugged in i want to be able to play sound through both headphones and speakers... but i want only media player to play through speakers..
[21:13] <danileigh79> reCAPTCHA: hold on, I have a friend who's good with mac, i'm an x86 kind of girl ;P
[21:13] <TheSimkin> i know osx pretty good
[21:13] <TheSimkin> what is the question
[21:13] <danileigh79> TheSimkin: He's trying to disable laptop keyboard due to using usb keyboard
[21:14] <TheSimkin> i don't think you can do that.
[21:14] <ratcheer> dtfdtf: Because they are not free software. Many people do not like to install non-free software, so they keep that stuff in separate repositories to make it easily avoided.
[21:14] <reCAPTCHA> danileigh79, TheSimkin using ubuntu 10.04
[21:14] <dlentz> starn, it's odd that alsainfo isn't showing your headest as an aplay device
[21:14] <romeyro> dlentz, what do you suggest me, upgrade to 11.10 or wait for the 12.04
[21:14] <TheSimkin> reCAPTCHA: pretty sure you can't do that.
[21:14] <dlentz> romeyro, 12.04 is supported for 5 years
[21:14] <dlentz> again, if you don't like to upgrade..
[21:15] <TheSimkin> reCAPTCHA: if you *CAN* do it you'd have to use "evdev"
[21:15] <starn> dlentz: is there an way to add it?? i know what i want to do works in windows.. but gnu-linux drivers are not same as theirs...
[21:15] <saryth> Thanks for the help. I'm sure I'll find something. I have to go. Everyone be cool!
[21:15] <TheSimkin> i think that's it's called anyhow.
[21:15] <reCAPTCHA> TheSimkin: Alright... I thought that there might be an easy solution...
[21:15] <romeyro> does 12.04 is available actually dlentz  ?
[21:15] <starn> also HP Out is my headphones dlentz.
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> romeyro: in alpha 2, yes
[21:15] <danileigh79> reCAPTCHA: She says you can't disable it on a mac, only if it was an x86 machine
[21:15] <TheSimkin> reCAPTCHA: there is a tool out there that lets you seperate diff keyboards out to diff x sessions.... so you could have multipl x sessions from a single computer.  but it's prety ugly.
[21:15] <dlentz> romeyro, it's still in develpment, release in April
[21:15] <TheLogan> hmm, during installation, its asking 'who are you' and wants name and password and other info, however ive filled all fields with no problems, but the 'Fordward' button is still greyed out
[21:15] <TheSimkin> and i guess that would work for you.
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> TheLogan: use lowercase letters for ALL boxes
[21:16] <dlentz> starn, so your headset isn't usb?
[21:16] <TheLogan> Ah, thanks =)
[21:16] <romeyro> ActionParsnip, dlentz oh nice, i ll check on google how i can upgrade 10.10 to 12.04
[21:16] <TheLogan> ActionParsnip:
[21:16] <starn> dlentz: no.. it's not USB..
[21:16] <sveinse> Does it exists any overview of which upstart services are being defined/used on ubuntu?
[21:17] <TheSimkin> reCAPTCHA: actually, maybe ther is a way, can you go to /dev/input/by-id  and see if you have more than one keyboard entry? (maybe remove the usb ad plug it back in to compare and see)
[21:17] <Ben64> romeyro: you have to go 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> romeyro: you'll need to upgrade to natty, then to oneiric, then to precise
[21:17] <TheSimkin> reCAPTCHA: if so, tyhen you should be able to tailor your xorg.conf to use that specific input device vs the generic "keyboard" input device!!
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> romeyro: i'd just clean install precise. you can restore data from backup
[21:18] <TheSimkin> reCAPTCHA: do you know what i mean?
[21:18] <TheSimkin> reCAPTCHA: that'd be pretty cool if it worked! plz let me know .
[21:18] <reCAPTCHA> TheSimkin: Trying it out.
[21:19] <danileigh79> TheSimkin: that'll only work per session, he'd have to delete it (if it'll even let him)
[21:19] <danileigh79> TheSimkin: everytime he rebooted
[21:19] <dlentz> starn, then i'm stumped on how to do that on one device
[21:19] <romeyro> ActionParsnip yes, it ll be faster. Thank you guys. But just like that, unity is not in 12.04 ?
[21:19] <TheSimkin> danileigh79: depends, if the internal kb doesn't show up as usb then it should be pretty easy to make a script to make a ln to the right one on boot.
[21:19] <danileigh79> romeyro: Yes, it is
[21:19] <romeyro> i mean i can switch to gnome ?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> romeyro: if you install xubuntu, it won't be
[21:20] <TheSimkin> danileigh79: otherwise yes, it might be a bit of  a pain...
[21:20] <starn> dlentz: all i know is on my mother board there is audio ports than on the front is a different chip..
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79not in xubuntu oneiric....
[21:20] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: whoops I caught that wrong... sorry for stepping on your toe
[21:20] <dlentz> starn, i don't think it's a different chip.
[21:20] <TheSimkin> danileigh79: even if it is usb.. maybe he can parse the data from /proc/bus/usb to sort out which is which.
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> romeyro: if you dislike unity, install kubuntu or xubuntu
[21:21] <dlentz> front output just plugs into the card (or mobo)
[21:21] <starn> it's attached under hard drive with cord leading to motherboard all i know.
[21:21] <danileigh79> TheSimkin: I've been trying to do it with my usb mouse vs touchpad, and I couldn't even delete it...
[21:21] <TheSimkin> danileigh79: delete it?
[21:21] <TheSimkin> i was thinking you'd change the xorg.conf to use just one of them vs the generic one.
[21:22] <TheSimkin> only problem is you can't be sure what order they will come up in
[21:22] <TheSimkin> i love linux
[21:22] <TheSimkin> even the impossible is possible :)
[21:22] <starn> dlentz: is there away to figure out what model stac92xx is?? for dell dimension e521? i know options snd-hda-intel model=stack3 is dimension e520.. but not e521...
[21:23] <danileigh79> TheSimkin: I see what you're getting at... *facepalm*
[21:23] <dlentz> model=dell-3stack probably works if the e520 is similar
[21:23] <starn> would a pastebin of my alsa-base-conf be helpful to see why it's not working the way i want?
[21:23] <WebDawg> ctrl+alt+f4 what is that supposed to do?
[21:24] <WebDawg> switch ttys right?
[21:24] <dtfdtf> yey!! i worked!!
[21:24] <TheSimkin> switch you to console f4
[21:24] <danileigh79> dtfdtf: good :)
[21:24] <dtfdtf> many thanks guys!
[21:24] <WebDawg> hmm it switches back to the gdm login when I do that command.
[21:24] <WebDawg> Heh.
[21:24] <TheSimkin> WebDawg: you could have a gdm running on session 4
[21:24] <TheSimkin> try ctrl-alt-f1
[21:24] <TheSimkin> that should be cli
[21:25] <WebDawg> TheSimkin, Thanks I just wanted to make sure.
[21:25] <romeyro> thank you for your help guys have a nice day :) i ll be back when i ll get everything installed
[21:25] <dlentz> starn, i can't think of how to separate sounds like you want, either the headphones are plugged in and muting the speakers or they're not
[21:25] <dlentz> i'm not sure how windows does it
[21:25] <rebe> ubuntu have any preinstalled soft to mount files like .iso ?
[21:25] <starn> dlentz: http://pastebin.com/508VhqSF  would anything in that suggest away??  and do you maybe know someone or somewhere to ask?
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> dtfdtf: its a lot of data but very worth it
[21:26] <dlentz> that just looks like the standard alsa-base.conf
[21:26] <danileigh79> starn: ubuntu forums is one of the best places to check or google something like "sound out of both speakers and headphones in ubuntu"
[21:26] <TheLogan> installation done, trying to boot for the very first time... excited =D
[21:27] <starn> danileigh79: i've tried that i've been working on this since 6:30am my time it's now 3:27pm.. i can find ways to stop sound from coming out of both but now how to enable them.. and most solutions are fore machines that are not mine.
[21:28] <dtfdtf> ActionParsnip: What is a lot of data ? were you referring to the ubuntu-restricted-extra?
[21:28] <Laurenceb_> can someone help me install libssl 1.0.0 on ubuntu 10.04LTS?
[21:28] <Laurenceb_> ive tried building from source
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> dtfdtf: yeah, its 250Mb or so, right?
[21:28] <danileigh79> starn: might be something as easy as changing something in cmos/bios
[21:28] <Laurenceb_> but im still missing libssl.so.1.0.0
[21:28] <stercor> ActionParsnip: The reboot brought compiz down to 5%.  This is good, but I'll watch it.
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | Laurenceb_
[21:28] <Laurenceb_> i know
[21:29] <Laurenceb_> in know
[21:29] <stercor> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the pointer.
[21:29] <Laurenceb_> but i cant find it can i
[21:29] <Laurenceb_> or i wouldnt have asked
[21:29] <starn> danileigh79: i certainly hope so..... kinda.. would be rather annoying i've spent all this time trying to figure it out on my own and asking people.
[21:29] <Laurenceb_> im not stupid
[21:29] <Laurenceb_> so
[21:29] <FloodBot1> Laurenceb_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:29] <Laurenceb_> can anyone help me with this please?
[21:29] <danileigh79> starn: what machine are you runnng?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb_: if there is no PPA you will need to compileit
[21:29] <TheLogan> yay, it works ^^
[21:29] <WebDawg> What is the best way to log into an ubuntu install via remote desktop or such?
[21:29] <starn> Dell Dimension E521.
[21:29] <WebDawg> vnc?
[21:29] <dtfdtf> ActionParsnip: don't know. it's installed anyway. So, how does one go about checking the apt-get installed-item's size??
[21:29] <Laurenceb_> ActionParsnip: already done
[21:30] <danileigh79> starn: desktop?
[21:30] <starn> yes
[21:30] <Laurenceb_> but how do i get the libssl
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> WebDawg: what activities are you going to do in the remote session?
[21:30] <danileigh79> starn: sound card integrated or separate
[21:30] <stercor> Laurenceb_: what's the problem?
[21:30] <starn> i believe intergrated..
[21:31] <WebDawg> ActionParsnip, I need to be able to see what is on the screen.  Point and click I already have ssh enabled.
[21:31] <dlentz> danileigh79, see http://pastebin.com/JcebGXAC
[21:31] <FPC> We cannot access a program that we installed
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> WebDawg: but why do you need to be able to see what is on screen, for what purpose?
[21:31] <WebDawg> ActionParsnip, What?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> WebDawg: why do you need to see the screen?
[21:32] <WebDawg> To use the computer?
[21:33] <stercor> Laurenceb_: I did a Web search for 'gscan2pdf ppa' and it came up with http://gscan2pdf.sourceforge.net/  This can be used as an example for installing a ppa.
[21:33] <FPC> We can't access a program that we installed can anyone help us?
[21:33] <stercor> Laurenceb_: Hope this is the answer to the unknown question. :-)
[21:34] <guntbert> FPC: don't repeat but give more details
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> WebDawg: yes but to achieve what? What activities will be done once you are connected...
[21:35] <WebDawg> browsing the internet.
[21:35] <FPC> We have ubuntu 11.10 Installed software (Powerterm) from internet. how do we open the program
[21:35] <CodeGnome> Hi folks. I can't get tar to backup extended attributes on 11.04. This is probably related to libarchive, but I'd like to know if there's a simple way to backup files with extended attributes.
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> WebDawg: does the client system have an X server on it (Desktop linux will have this)?
[21:36] <LL2|Android> Hmm
[21:36] <WebDawg> ActionParsnip, Yes.
[21:36] <LL2|Android> You know how they say init CAN'T be killed?
[21:36] <guntbert> FPC: how did you install it?
[21:36] <LL2|Android> With -9, it doesn't seem to do anything
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> WebDawg: then just launch the browser from your SSH session. be sure to connect with:  ssh -X username@server
[21:37] <FPC> 3rd party installed it for us over the internet
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> WebDawg: you can then run:   firefox &      and the browser will run.
[21:37] <guntbert> LL2|Android: Is that an ubuntu support question?
[21:37] <LL2|Android> No
[21:37] <guntbert> FPC: ask them
[21:37] <starn> danileigh79: is it possible my hardware is some how not configured correctly? or is windows just evil and some how made it illegal lol
[21:37] <guntbert> !ot > LL2|Android
[21:37] <danileigh79> starn: I found a way to do it in Windows... not sure if there is a linux solution though
[21:37] <starn> danileigh79: yeah it's easy to do so in windows..
[21:38] <FPC> they told us to go to terminal and type in the name of the software but that doesn't get us anywhere
[21:38] <WebDawg> ActionParsnip, now what should I do if I want to see what the user is doing on the screen or an error that comes up or such?
[21:38] <guntbert> FPC: how should *we* know?
[21:38] <FPC> they also sent us directons to download a launcher to put icon on the desktop and those directions do not work either.
[21:39] <starn> danileigh79: would my alsabase and dmesg and alsa infromation script thingy help???
[21:39] <danileigh79> starn: it's a sigmtel setting, requires being able to edit the setting...
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> WebDawg: ahh if its for that then vnc is handy
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | WebDawg
[21:39] <danileigh79> starn: I already saw it courtesy of dlentz
[21:39] <FPC> looking for general help on how to open a program
[21:39] <guntbert> FPC: just talk to them - we cannot know
[21:39] <starn> danileigh79: alright.. all of those?
[21:39] <guntbert> FPC: generally type the name .. like they said :-)
[21:39] <danileigh79> starn: hang on, gonna look into something, may not respond for a few minutes
[21:40] <FPC> can you help us with how to install a launcher?
[21:40] <WebDawg> ActionParsnip, I did not know X server interaction was so simple he.
[21:41] <WebDawg> ActionParsnip, does it require a running x server on the remote server to launch software like that?
[21:41] <CodeGnome> FPC: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToAddaLauncher
[21:41] <dtfdtf> ...
[21:41] <danileigh79> starn: do me a favor and go into sound settings
[21:41] <dtfdtf> fei
[21:41] <FPC> thabks
[21:41] <dtfdtf> hi ifi
[21:41] <dtfdtf> hi fifi
[21:41] <starn> danileigh79: there.
[21:41] <dtfdtf> nice cat on your sweater
[21:41] <dtfdtf> i can see you webcam
[21:42] <danileigh79> starn: click on output and tell me what it says under Chose a device for sound out put (analog or digital)?
[21:42] <h00k> !offtopic | dtfdtf
[21:42] <Pancakez> is there a way I can see the connection speed of eth0 in terminal?
[21:43] <starn> danileigh79: analog speakers. for connector. and choose a device for sound output internal audio analog stereo...      do note i have an s/pdif port. but not shown in this.
[21:44] <toxboi`> I'm runny Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop. After continuously running it for few days, I get this problem when I can't see the VPN connections in the gnome-panel and even can't edit network connections. Any way to debug this?
[21:44] <danileigh79> starn: and click on hardware
[21:44] <w0_> hi -- I'm running ubuntu 11.10, and sometimes I will close all of my firefox windows, and then click to open firefox, but it says that there is already an instance, that is not responding.  is there any way to prevent this?  much th
[21:44] <starn> danileigh79: i also have 1 headphone jack [front] and 4-5 jacks for audio in back.. i think 5.0 surround.. and i clicked hardware.
[21:45] <dtfdtf> hehe
[21:45] <dtfdtf> just messing about. won't happen again
[21:45] <reinis> first time usinng this IRC client :)
[21:45] <danileigh79> starn: on the hardware tab, look at the device and tell me how many inputs/outputs
[21:46] <csddesk> w0_,  not really, get more ram/faster cpu. could also clear cache for faster clean up of memory after shutdown possibly
[21:46] <orz> hi, ive got a question about the 11.10 server. the fans is running on max so is there any way to set so the fan speed will automaticly adapt to the heat ?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> WebDawg: you will get  a window of the desktop, you said you wanted to see the desktop to help folks...
[21:47] <w0_> csddesk: hmmm.  okay.  kinda a bummer tho.
[21:47] <w0_> how about a reinstall?
[21:47] <danileigh79> starn: still there?
[21:47] <w0_> (used to werk for my windows probs =/ )
[21:47] <csddesk> how long are you waiting after you close FF anyway?
[21:47] <starn> danileigh79: choose a device to configure: internal audio 1 output/ 1 input analog stereo duplex.  [i have it set to stereo duplex...] well actually it'll still only show the 1 output / 1 input even with it changed to something else.. maybe cuz headphones in??? but none the less... hardware wise i'm supposedly able to support surround sound.
[21:47] <PPPPPPP> QUESTION: What is the simplest way to use a default gnome desktop instead of Unity?
[21:48] <PPPPPPP> and why is there no alt iso for this lol?
[21:48] <danileigh79> starn: it's hardware liimitations, not software... sorry hun, you can't run both outputs at the same time
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> PPPPPPP: install xfce4, log off and log into xfce, it will run a lot like gnome2
[21:48] <danileigh79> starn: regardless of how many jacks there are, the sound can only run out of 1 output at a time
[21:49] <danileigh79> starn: My recommendation is now to go to your local radio shack and buy a 1/8 jack splitter
[21:49] <jack^_> D:
[21:49] <PPPPPPP> ActionParsnip, alright, thanks friend
[21:50] <danileigh79> starn: sorry, 3.5mm splitter, not 1/8 lol
[21:50] <rallias> How do I get the indent/unindent tool available in the windows build of gedit on ubuntu?
[21:50] <TheSimkin> starn: ... i think you should be able to use the amplified line out and the non amplified line out at the same time.
[21:51] <TheSimkin> at least i have done this before.
[21:51] <starn> i already have one danileigh79 the issue is it would still be in the headphones.
[21:51] <TheSimkin> worth a try before heading to the store
[21:52] <Yonotu> I have an (almost) fresh installed Ubuntu system and it boots way too long (1min 40)... could it be because I use btrfs?
[21:53] <starn> TheSimkin: i don't understand what you just said.
[21:54] <danileigh79> Yonotu: mine clocks in right around 1:15 for a boot up, might just be hardware limitations....
[21:54] <sweb> gandum_zaar: welcome to ubuntu IRC. i'm mohammad
[21:54] <TheSimkin> starn: some audio cards have an amplified line out and just a regular line out (no amp) you should be able to use both
[21:54] <TheSimkin> starn: if you don't understand, go with the option given... use a line splitter
[21:55] <danileigh79> TheSimkin: he only has one about in the actual sound card, it can't process output through two mediums at the same time, it's hardware
[21:55] <danileigh79> TheSimkin: *output
[21:55] <danileigh79> TheSimkin: if he had an amplifying output, it ould list as 2 outputs, not just one
[21:56] <TheSimkin> ahh
[21:56] <starn> TheSimkin: ok... and danileigh79 http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dime521/en/SM_EN/specs.htm  thats everything my computer has.. for audio and video.. well i installed my own video card.
[21:58] <danileigh79> starn: Thanks, but I already got your computer info :) When you told me that ubuntu shows 1 output/1 input, I already knew you couldn't have to sound outputs goig at the same time
[21:58] <mang0> ActionParsnip: I installed the drivers for my printer, it still doesn't show up :?
[21:58] <starn> well i did configure it earlier to show remaped device
[21:59] <trism> rallias: select the area then tab to indent the block, shift+tab to unindent
[21:59] <TheSimkin> starn, what the heck does it mean by "up to " 1mb of cache.
[21:59] <TheSimkin> either it has a mb of cache or it doesn't?
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> mang0: remove any printers relating to that one and reboot, then readd
[21:59] <mang0> ActionParsnip: This is the only printer I've ever had connectd to this machine.
[21:59] <starn> TheSimkin: i honestly have no clue.. dell is stupid sometimes.
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> TheSimkin: if the chip differs, it will have less cache
[22:00] <Yonotu> When I look in bootchart I find that the entire "mountall" takes 1 entire minute
[22:00] <danileigh79> Yonotu: bad sectors on hd?
[22:00] <cyberworm54> I have a question guys, what is the best distro for a aspire s3 ?
[22:00] <cyberworm54> where everything works?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Yonotu: is the partition healthy?
[22:01] <himborg> ok
[22:01] <TheSimkin> ActionParsnip: shouldn't they list the minimum amount you'd get then??
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> cyberworm54: try ubuntu....
[22:01] <TheSimkin> that'd be like buying an icecream cone with "up to 3 scoops" but you get just one.
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> TheSimkin: i guess, its marketing though. Up to is easier to qualify
[22:02] <danileigh79> lmao at ActionParsnip
[22:02] <dlentz> TheSimkin, giant corporations are know for their brutal honesty...
[22:02] <Yonotu> Yes, it is even fresh installed with ext2 on /boot and / as btrfs, I also have another Windows on the same drive and another windows drive connected...
[22:02] <starn> danileigh79: TheSimkin: i guess i'll just not use VOIP when i am on ubuntu.. i don't live alone and just don't want people hearing the people on the computer [they often cuss] i know if i unplug my headphones i believe it shows more devices...
[22:02] <cyberworm54> ActionParsnip:will it support ll my hardware or I ll have to jyst try and see?
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> cyberworm54: try it in liveCD/USB and see
[22:03] <cortman`> Live CD
[22:03] <cyberworm54> ActionParsnip thank you I ll try it
[22:03] <danileigh79> cyberworm54: most hardware will be supported out of box, but if you have any difficulties, you can look in additional drivers
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> cyberworm54: the wifi make take some effort if it doesn't work straight away, depends on the chip
[22:03] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: that's what I was leading into
[22:03] <danileigh79> cyberworm54: do you know if you have a broadcom wifi adapter?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> cyberworm54: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1872798
[22:04] <Yonotu> danileigh79, it runs btrfs.fsck for like 50 seconds so that might be the problem
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> cyberworm54: http://www.linlap.com/wiki/acer+aspire+s3
[22:04] <kingnebex> hey action wts up?..
[22:04] <Yonotu> I mean fsck.btrfs
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> hi kingnebex
[22:04] <kingnebex> wts new?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: not much, work tomorrow night which sucks
[22:05] <Jordan_U> Yonotu: Does fsck.btrfs give any errors? (note, it won't fix anything as that hasn't been implemented yet).
[22:05] <kingnebex> y?
[22:05] <Yonotu> I'll check again.
[22:05] <danileigh79> Yonotu: I only run ext, so I don't know, I'm sorry
[22:06] <Mortchek> What package contains QAudioOutput, a QT header?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: gotta pay the rent and stuff..
[22:06] <zectorpt> hi, there are any way to change sysctl values without change sysctl.conf? changing permanently...
[22:06] <starn> danileigh79: TheSimkin i figured out how to make sound play through both speakers and headphones at same time.. not trying to figure out how to split them....
[22:07] <Gentoo64> zectorpt: not permenantly
[22:07] <kingnebex> hahahahhaahaaaa thats life ddnt ur mom and dad tell u?
[22:07] <LL2|Android> Damn router
[22:07] <Pikkachu> ActionParsnip: hi, I'm RenatoSilva I think we were talking yesterday about my ubuntu install do you remember?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: yep, still doesn't make it suck less. Does it...
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> Pikkachu: sorry, no
[22:08] <laMela87> ciao a tutti
[22:08] <LL2|Android> Also, I found the file where the panic function is defined
[22:08] <Pikkachu> ActionParsnip: aghw sorry you were one of those I just ignored? sorry
[22:08] <kingnebex> it would if u came in prepared u know
[22:08]  * LL2|Android wonders what would happen if he deleted it from the file
[22:08] <TheSimkin> starn: i don't think i understand what your problem is at all.
[22:08] <LongTerm> hi im using gdecrypt to encrypt one of my additonal hdds but it takes endless..it was running for about 10 hours and is still not finished..its a 1 tb hdd
[22:08] <TheSimkin> i just came in on the tail endof that one.
[22:08] <TheSimkin> i shoulda kept my mouth shut i suppose.
[22:09] <TheSimkin> just wanted to save you a trip to the store if i could.
[22:09] <zectorpt> Gentoo64: tks
[22:09] <starn> TheSimkin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11704621#post11704621  i followed someones suggestion to make a post.. maybe reading that will help...
[22:09] <LL2|Android> Hey
[22:09] <LL2|Android> What happens if the kernel attempts to call to the panic function, but the panic function is not defined?
[22:09] <LL2|Android> I'd really want to see what happens
[22:10] <CodeGnome> [Workaround Found] Backup and restore extended attributes by including a metastore .metadata file in a tarball. It's kludgey, but it works. YMMV.
[22:10] <zectorpt> Gentoo64: whell... and delete a line in sysctl.conf and echo another one?
[22:10] <Gentoo64> zectorpt: ?
[22:10] <Gentoo64> zectorpt: you could add an echo to a local rc file but whats the point
[22:10] <Gentoo64> whern you can just edit sysctl.conf
[22:10] <Yonotu> My btrfs partition is screwed, it gives a lot of errors when I check it, o well
[22:12] <[IFOC]75> hi, how much space do you recommend that I allocate for ubuntu?
[22:12] <[IFOC]75> hard drive space, I mean
[22:12] <Gentoo64> [IFOC]75: up to you
[22:12] <[IFOC]75> is 50 GB enough?
[22:12] <Gentoo64> 6gb upwards
[22:12] <Gentoo64> id say
[22:12] <[IFOC]75> oh
[22:12] <[IFOC]75> I gave it 1 TB on my desktop
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> [IFOC]75: about 7Gb for / is enough
[22:12] <Pikkachu> [IFOC]75: mine is 20GiB
[22:12] <Gentoo64> if you got a big drive then partition it
[22:12] <Gentoo64> and use big for data
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> [IFOC]75: the rest can be used for /home
[22:13] <[IFOC]75> hmm
[22:13] <[IFOC]75> great
[22:13] <[IFOC]75> this laptop only has 500 GB
[22:13] <[IFOC]75> I'm glad I can still use Linux when I'm away
[22:13] <Gentoo64> instead of having like a 200gb home you might as well use it as a 200gb files mount point
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> [IFOC]75: 500Gb is plenty
[22:13] <[IFOC]75> oh, I can't give all of that to linux
[22:13] <[IFOC]75> some of that needs to be Windows 7
[22:14] <[IFOC]75> a lot of it, actually
[22:14] <[IFOC]75> unfortunately
[22:14] <Roasted_> sorry to hear that :/
[22:14] <[IFOC]75> that's why I was giving 50 G
[22:14] <[IFOC]75> it's a work laptop too
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> [IFOC]75: give the same amount RAM (plus 10%) as swap space, about 7Gb for / and the rest for /home
[22:14] <Gentoo64> 50gb is well enough
[22:14] <[IFOC]75> and they use Microsoft Virtual PC
[22:14] <[IFOC]75> I tried using VirtualBox on their .vhd's but it didn't work well
[22:14] <[IFOC]75> mouse capture problems
[22:15] <bagels> How can I force ubuntu to automatically mark a file as executable?
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> bagels: chmod +x file
[22:16] <bagels> ActionParsnip, these files are on a CDROM
[22:16] <m1ke> hi there
[22:16] <TheSimkin> bagels: to do it automatically the best way is to use acl's.
[22:16] <[IFOC]75> oh heh
[22:16] <[IFOC]75> I've only used 30 GB
[22:16] <[IFOC]75> on this system
[22:16] <[IFOC]75> ... how
[22:16] <FloodBot1> [IFOC]75: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <[IFOC]75> I put so much stuff on this
[22:16] <[IFOC]75> oh, sorry
[22:16] <bagels> TheSimkin, what's an acl?
[22:17] <TheSimkin> bagels: access control list
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> bagels: then you will need to mount the whole CD as executable. Why did you not say it was on a CD??
[22:17] <bagels> TheSimkin, how do i go about doing that?
[22:17] <[IFOC]75> thanks for the advice, and I've really enjoyed Ubuntu
[22:17] <bagels> ActionParsnip, sorry, I was asking for the whole OS, so I can stop having to change each file
[22:17] <[IFOC]75> best OS I've ever used
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> [IFOC]75: linux uses shared libs, so if some libs are already in use by one app they will not be loaded again,same with installed apps. WIndows wastes a LOT of resources duplicating stuff and bloats heavily
[22:18] <TheSimkin> bagels: this guide is alright, but once you have it installed you can use gui tools to set the acls (much easier than learning the cli lingo) http://beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1038-ubuntu-804-access-control-lists
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> bagels: you will need to remount the CD so that it is executable
[22:18] <TheSimkin> bagels: in kde i just right click on a folder and set advanced permissions... not sure how to do it in gnome but i expect it's just as easy.
[22:18] <sweb> gandum_zaar: welcome back
[22:19] <gandum_zaar> are
[22:19] <crizzy> ActionParsnip: windows itself doesn't waste anything, 3rd party applications just in general have a lot less shared libraries outside the windows platform libraries themselves
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> crizzy: a 7gb install for Win7 just for the base OS. Pretty poor if you ask me.
[22:19] <TheSimkin> bagels: basically apt-get instlal acl; change fstab options to include acl, reboot, right click on folder and go to advanced perms
[22:20] <crizzy> ActionParsnip: that exactly includes all the windows frameworks, aka these magical 'shared libraries'
[22:20] <bagels> TheSimkin, that sounds confusing
[22:20] <TheSimkin> even this? bagels: basically apt-get instlal acl; change fstab options to include acl, reboot, right click on folder and go to advanced perms
[22:20] <bagels> ActionParsnip, how do i mount it as executable
[22:21] <TheSimkin> bagels: btw, you really shouldn't set the execute flag by default, it is somewhat retarded.
[22:21] <Gentoo64> bagels: what are you trying to do? would it not be easier to copy whatever it is over and chmod it
[22:21] <TheSimkin> kinda like feeding the tigers at the zoo.
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> bagels: look into the mount command
[22:21] <BrendanMcc> heya guys :) - Running Ubuntu 11.04 in Vmware. My problem is I cant get an ethernet device up, via DHCP or assigning a static IP. When assigning static, I cant even ping the router/gateway.. Can someone plz help :)
[22:21] <TheSimkin> bagels: you can execute things just by runnin sh ./commandyouwanttorun
[22:21] <bagels> Gentoo64, for some reason I can't copy all the files over, i keep getting i/o errors
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> crizzy: then throw in about 6Gb of office....
[22:23] <Gentoo64> bagels: weird, tried memtest?
[22:23] <Jordan_U> TheSimkin: "sh ./commandyouwantorun" if commandyouwantorun is a POSIX sh script, not if it's an executable, and not even if it's a bash script.
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> bagels: if you want to install an app via Wine, I suggest you use playonlinux, makes things a little nicer
[22:24] <crizzy> ActionParsnip: what has the office to do with the OS?
[22:24] <bagels> ActionParsnip, does that work with nero?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> crizzy: its bloated
[22:24] <gandhijee_> hey when i create a deb package with dpkg, does it look @ /proc/mounts for anything?
[22:24] <crizzy> so is libreoffice
[22:24] <crizzy> nothing to do with os, anyway
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> bagels: Nero doesn't work with wine as far as I know, there is nero for Linux
[22:25] <bagels> See, the DVD drive came with Nero, and on the box it says nero for linux, but it looks like nero for windows
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> crizzy: its not nearly as big
[22:25] <Gentoo64> windows 7 is still fast..
[22:25] <crizzy> ActionParsnip: yet it sucks more
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> bagels: there are plenty of native burners for Linux
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> crizzy: works flawlessly here
[22:26] <crizzy> i bet you do very meaningful things with it
[22:26] <Gentoo64> bagels: i think ubuntu comes with brasero
[22:26] <crizzy> anyway, #offtopic
[22:26] <BrendanMcc> !network
[22:26] <kingnebex> hey guys im having troble with downloading packet tracer cn any 1 help me out plz
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> crizzy: word processing as you'd expect.... thats what it's for....
[22:27] <eniac> Hej
[22:27] <eniac> Bre
[22:27] <big13> e
[22:27] <royale1223> anybody familer with iptraf?
[22:27] <kingnebex> any 1 plz...
[22:27] <Nach0z> uh
[22:27] <Nach0z> yes
[22:27] <Nach0z> royale1223: I am, why?
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: ou haven't stated an issue yet
[22:28] <royale1223> Nach0z: well how to add anew interface to it?
[22:28] <royale1223> Nach0z: it wont detect bnep0 and usb0.
[22:28] <Nach0z> royale1223: restart iptraf, it SHOULD detect any interfaces listed by ifconfig.
[22:29] <royale1223> Nach0z: tried that already
[22:29] <Buceph> Hey, Pidgin refused to connect to any IRC network for me as did empathy, so I presumed Pidgin messed with something, so I uninstalled it with the intention of reinstalling it with "sudo apt-get remove pidgin" but pidgin still shows up under the "envelope" icon in the top right of ubuntu.
[22:29] <terminhell> purge
[22:30] <Gentoo64> Buceph: rebooted?
[22:30] <Buceph> I've tried purge, it's still there.
[22:30] <Gentoo64> might be some cache
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Buceph: uninstalling it ten reinstalling it will not reset settings
[22:30] <Gentoo64> remove /home settings
[22:30] <BrendanMcc> could my network issue be a driver problem or kernel problem as im running ubuntu 11.04 on VMWare 3.1.5
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Buceph: you need to delete or rename ~/.purple  and you will get vanilla setting
[22:30] <kingnebex> ActionParsnip> wat issue?
[22:30] <Buceph> ActionParsnip: Where do I find that file?
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: what is the issue with packet tracer....
[22:31] <Nach0z> royale1223: iptraf -i <iface>
[22:31] <kingnebex> its giving me problems in downloading it
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> Buceph: its in your home folder. What you asked is like asking "Where is C:\boot.ini"
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Buceph: i gave the full path of the folder.
[22:32] <anonymousinuk> hiya  room having problems burning a iso to cd. the simulation runs ok but when writting it fails at 60% or so with this error message     SCSI error on write(133392,16): [3 0C 00] Write error
[22:32] <kingnebex> ActionParsnip> and i cnt install it neither
[22:32] <anonymousinuk> anyone help?
[22:32] <royale1223> Nach0z:  Specified interface not supported
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: is it in the repos?
[22:32] <Gentoo64> ActionParsnip: he might be new.. not everyone knows ~/ is home :)
[22:32] <indystorm> Hey Anyone- whats a good cheap compatible pcie x16 video card to buy with DVI? Looking to spend under $50 or so.......
[22:32] <Nach0z> royale1223: aint nothin you can do in that case bud. sorry. need to find a new traffic monitor
[22:32] <Buceph> ActionParsnip: Ok. I presumed it was a Pidgin file.
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Buceph: if you run:   mv ~/.purple ~/.purple_old    when you next run pidgin, you will get default settings and have to reset up the accounts
[22:33] <kingnebex> wts repos?
[22:33] <Gentoo64> indystorm: look on your fave shopping site...
[22:33] <royale1223> Nach0z: too bad. I liked iptraf so much..
[22:33] <Buceph> Cheers
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: when you use apt-get or software centre, you use the repos (short for repositories) and pull down db files
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> *deb
[22:35] <kingnebex> ActionParsnip> well..awkey i wish i could understand everything that u r sayn bt i think that will do 4 nw
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: ok you knw when you install updates...yes?
[22:36] <kingnebex> ActionParsnip> no
[22:36] <OerHeks> kingnebex, what is the name of "packet tracer"?
[22:37] <bushy> Newbie is struggling with file and folder permissions- Looking for some help
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: when update manager appears and says "There are updates for your OS", you've not seen that?
[22:37] <rattatoue> bushy, whatcha need?
[22:37] <bushy> Well, I've read the docs and things aren't working as expected.
[22:37] <bushy> I have a small home network
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: or have you ever used apt-get or aptitude in command lne?
[22:38] <bushy> I have a second drive on my linux box and have tried setting sharing and creating permissions such that I can access the share from the windows box
[22:38] <rattatoue> bushy, oh so samba share?
[22:38] <dtfdtf> hi guys. quick question on jre ... does ubuntu need this? (recalling that most Windows OS do)
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> dtfdtf: doesn't need it, no
[22:39] <bushy> When I try setting folder permissions to read and write they get set back to none.  UBUNTU won't take my settings
[22:39] <OerHeks> dtfdtf, openJDK runs fine with me
[22:39] <dtfdtf> so, we're good to go
[22:39] <rattatoue> bushy, is it a system folder or one in your home?
[22:39] <dtfdtf> just get flash and all good
[22:39] <dtfdtf> ... good for media, youtube, facebook, etc.
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: you've not seen that?
[22:40] <Gentoo64> youtube defaults to html5 now
[22:40] <Gentoo64> dont need flash no more
[22:40] <lavadude> Hey guys
[22:40] <dtfdtf> oooh
[22:40] <lavadude> I need your help
[22:40] <rattatoue> !question
[22:40] <kingnebex> ActionParsnip> yes i have but i ignored it y?
[22:40] <lavadude> When i run this command: sudo -u git -H git clone git://github.com/gitlabhq/gitolite /home/git/gitolite
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: the surce of those updates are called repositories, or repos for short. I suggest you get updated
[22:41] <lavadude> but i get the following errorL fatal: Could not change back to '/root': Permission denied
[22:41] <bushy> It is not in my home, It is a second drive
[22:41] <Buceph> Pidgin's window won't come up now. I've started Pidgin, and I've clicked on Pidgin from the bar and from the envelope thingy.
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: are you installing the packet tracer using software centre?
[22:41] <OerHeks> lavadude, is your UDER name git ? > /home/git/gitoline ??
 its just that packet tracer dnt u know it?
seen what?
[22:41] <lavadude> what's uder?
[22:41] <lavadude> user?
[22:42] <OerHeks> lavadude, user
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: are you using software centre to install the packet tracer?
[22:42] <rattatoue> lavadude, try sudo -Rf gitolite
[22:42] <lavadude> i'm running the command as root
 yes i havve bt as i have told u i gnore them
[22:42] <rattatoue> lavadude, sounds like you had a messed up original gitclone
[22:42] <royale1223> lavadude: when do you get thsi error?
[22:42] <OerHeks> lavadude, so something like /home/$user/git/gitoline ?
[22:42] <lavadude> https://github.com/gitlabhq/gitlabhq/wiki/Gitolite
[22:42] <rattatoue> bushy, when you go into that directory can you move files around as a normal user or do you need to be root do so?
 packet tracer is a study program from cisco networking academy software center doesnt have that
[22:43] <Deihmos> I just installed ubuntu. There is something wrong with the sound. WHen boot it takes at least 3 minutes after boot to hear the start-up sound
[22:43] <bushy> I can work the files w/o any problem while on the UBUNTU box and I can read the files from the WINDOWS box
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: so what file have you downloaded?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> bushy: does the windows system's firewall allow the traffic?
[22:44] <lavadude> @rattatoue that does work
[22:44] <lavadude> i mean doen't
[22:44] <rattatoue> lavadude, did it fix it?
[22:44] <rattatoue> oh
[22:44] <gordon1234> bushy, Have you put the share in your /etc/samba/smb.conf file. Also, when you change file permission, are you doing this using sudo or just through the file manager?
[22:44] <gamemakingdude> Hi, does anyone know how to setup an ftp server in ubuntu 10.10?
[22:44] <rattatoue> lavadude, did you try running it from the /home/git/ directory? so it removes the whole gitolite folder?
[22:45] <bushy> I beleive so , I can disable it and try again but that doesn't address why when trying to set permissions they immedaitely revert to NONE
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> gamemakingdude: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FtpServer
[22:45] <lavadude> @rattatoue no, let me try that
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> gamemakingdude: i suggest you install openssh-server and use sftp via that
 on the download link it says that the program has 60 smtn mb bt when i download it its just in kilibyts and it has a bin extension
[22:45] <Pooky5> hi guys, how can I forward traffic in my localPC to anoter IP?
[22:45] <bushy> BTW....The folder icon shows arrows in both directions
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: then mark the file executable and run it
[22:46] <bushy> I am changing permissions in the guui
[22:46] <gamemakingdude> Actionparsnip i installed it, where do i set up an account?
hw do i do thatTTT?
[22:46] <bushy> From the file manager
[22:47] <gamemakingdude> What you mean the file manager?
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: chmod +x filename
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> gamemakingdude: installed which?
[22:47] <bushy> I haven't read anything suggesting entering anything in SAMBA
[22:47] <gamemakingdude> openssh-server
[22:47] <anonymousinuk> can anyone help with burning iso?
[22:47] <gamemakingdude> I tried that link already
[22:47] <lavadude> @rattatoue that worked!
[22:47] <rattatoue> lavadude, you just had a messed up gitclone from before
[22:48] <lavadude> i removed the folder and ran the command from /home/git
[22:48] <Dayofswords> can someone reminder me how to copy folders with cp?  like "cp file 1 file2 folder1 folder2 folder3 destfolder" comes back angry about the directories
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> gamemakingdude: then it will use your local user acconts, so:  sudo adduser name     will make users and they will be given access to their own home and will have the access you grant them an local users on the file system
[22:48] <gamemakingdude> ok
 what?
[22:48] <gamemakingdude> Ill try connecting to it now
[22:49] <gamemakingdude> And what's the password to be?
[22:49] <Pikkachu> anonymousinuk: not if you don't ask
[22:49] <gamemakingdude> for the ftp?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: chmod +x   will make the file executable, you just need to give it the file name, obviously if the file is in a different folder you will need to specif the full pat
[22:49] <tfitts> anyone here have experience setting up reverse dns?
[22:49] <anonymousinuk> 2nd time round m8
[22:49] <xubuntu5> how can i count the # of times a match occurs just use a counter in a while ($var =~ /$match/){ count++ }?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> gamemakingdude: your system password you log in with
[22:49] <gamemakingdude> It doesnt work
[22:49] <_Marcus> I just made a new user, how do I add him to the administrators group so he can use sudo?
[22:49] <gamemakingdude> I get a incorrect password
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> gamemakingdude: not sure about ftp
[22:50] <xubuntu5> wrong box sorry
[22:50] <gamemakingdude> Well i need to use ftp to transfer files from my window pc to my ubuntu VPS
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> gamemakingdude: windows can connect to sftp using filezilla
[22:50] <gamemakingdude> Im entering the ip of the VSP
[22:51] <gamemakingdude> it finds it but it wont let me connect to any of my accounts
 i dnt undrstnd u at all man
[22:51] <gamemakingdude> Says password is incorrect
[22:51] <gamemakingdude> no
[22:51] <gamemakingdude> login is incorrect.
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: so say the file is held in your Download folder and is called 'scan.bin'   you would run:   chmod +x ~/Download/scan.bin
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: simple stuff
[22:52] <anonymousinuk> can anyone help with this error code while burning iso to cd
[22:52] <anonymousinuk> SCSI error on write(133392,16): [3 0C 00] Write error
[22:52] <gamemakingdude> So, the password must be different or something because it's not letting me use the password for it
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> anonymousinuk: does the ISO pass MD5 test?
[22:52] <anonymousinuk> how would i test this?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | anonymousinuk
[22:53] <rattatoue> Dayofswords, you mean like cp -R * /destination?
[22:53] <Crash_O-D> how do i get google hrome to add this for start up --no-referrers
[22:53] <tokuchi> come to rizon and join #Slamjam
[22:53] <_Marcus> How do I make a user able to run sudo?
[22:53] <Gentoo64> Crash_O-D: add it to the command...
 not as much as u think im new in these kynda stuff
[22:53] <Roasted_> hello! can someone explain to me the differences between authorized_keys and known_hosts?
[22:53] <Gentoo64> Crash_O-D: check if there's an /etc/chromium/default
[22:54] <Crash_O-D> Gentoo64 were? i use short cut in menu?
[22:54] <rattatoue> _Marcus, you need to edit your /etc/sudoers file
[22:54] <ikonia> Roasted_: one is user based, the other is host based
iv got an idea
[22:54] <anonymousinuk> ok ill have a look thnx, just before i do though , what is meant by md5?
[22:54] <Roasted_> hey there ikonia
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: sudo usermod -a -G admin username
[22:54] <ikonia> hey
[22:54] <_Marcus> rattatoue: What do I add?
[22:54] <Roasted_> ikonia, revisiting the thing I was trying to do earlier. :P
[22:54] <ikonia> Roasted_: I guessed
[22:54] <rattatoue> _Marcus, read what ActionParsnip posted. I have always done it manually via edit of sudoers
[22:54] <Crash_O-D> gentoo64 im pon xubuntu with xfce
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: so you dont use CLI in windows either I guess..
[22:54] <Gentoo64> Crash_O-D: is there a file called /etc/chromium/default
[22:55] <gamemakingdude> Actionparsnip any idea why i can't connect to my ftp?
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> rattatoue: adding a user to the admin group is fareasier and cleaner than messing with sudoers
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> gamemakingdude: try rebooting the box
[22:55] <rattatoue> ActionParsnip, true, but I am use to it the other way. So its personal choice that way.
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> rattatoue: its the whole purpose the group exists...
[22:55] <Roasted_> ikonia, considering I can ssh without any key (I assume thanks to known hosts) it becomes confusing to me on how I can stage my setup, because I'd like to see it fail without the keys so I can understand it
[22:56] <aechylus126> Hello, has anyone used wkhtmltopdf
[22:56] <ikonia> Roasted_: I explained this to you before
[22:56] <rattatoue> ActionParsnip, true, but I still prefer the other way. So again personal choice.
[22:56] <aechylus126> I can't seem to get it to support css3
[22:56] <kingnebex> i only have ubuntu in may machine
[22:56] <Crash_O-D> gentoo64 no i can not find it in there
[22:56] <ikonia> Roasted_: that is getting authed against /etc/passwd
[22:56] <ikonia> Roasted_: that is nothing to do with host keys
[22:56] <gamemakingdude> Ok ill try rebooting
[22:56] <ikonia> Roasted_: you need to disable non-key based auth if you want it to be keys only
 can u help me i wwant to us termina to install it
[22:56] <Roasted_> ikonia, I see. Sorry it's just a gray area to me, but I remember that now.
[22:56] <Gentoo64> Crash_O-D: ok, edit /usr/share/applications/chromium file and add the command argument to chromium line
[22:57] <Layne89> Hi all! I'm just a noob in Ubuntu, and I have a problem. I need to mount smb resource and I don't get how to do it. I read forums, and tried something like sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.162.245 /media/storage , but it does not works. I need help. If someone can tell me what to do, please explain. Thanks in advance
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: what is the name of the file and where is it stored (Case sensitive)
[22:57] <antoniodominguez> hi!!
[22:57] <antoniodominguez> i need the UPS Tuner Software of MGE (Merlin Gerin) anyone can help me? is very urgent
[22:57] <Gentoo64> Crash_O-D: that will make it global, or you could just make a desktop launcher with those commands
[22:57] <Roasted_> ikonia, I guess I just don't trust the keys since I can't test it if it fails, but I'll look into disabling non-key based auth to test.
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> rattatoue: so your personal choice is the hardway, strange...
[22:57] <Roasted_> ikonia, do you know by chance how to disable it offhand?
[22:57] <rattatoue> ActionParsnip, rofl. Hard to you maybe easy to me. Its what im use to.
[22:58] <ikonia> Roasted_: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[22:58] <ikonia> Roasted_: PasswordAuthentication no
[22:58] <rattatoue> ActionParsnip, its really not that big of deal, its just a different way to get to the same result.
[22:58] <ikonia> Roasted_: it is set to PasswordAuthentication yes
[22:58] <_Marcus> Thank you ActionParsnip and rattatoue
[22:58] <ikonia> Roasted_: change it to no
[22:58] <ikonia> Roasted_: restart sshd
[22:58] <antoniodominguez> i need the UPS Tuner Software of MGE (Merlin Gerin) anyone can help me? is very urgent
[22:58] <Roasted_> ikonia, doesn't exist
[22:58] <rattatoue> _Marcus, yvw
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> rattatoue: easier to run a single command than mess in a text file which could possibly break sudo
[22:58] <Roasted_> ssh_config?
[22:58] <ikonia> Roasted_: no, sshd_config on the server
[22:58] <kingnebex> on my desktop and has one hell of long name y?
[22:58] <Roasted_> I have ssh_config, not sshd_config
[22:59] <Crash_O-D> gentoo64 will not let me edit file in that folder im am a root user
[22:59] <ikonia> Roasted_: on the server ?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: if you can give the name of the file, I can give the command how to run it
[22:59] <rattatoue> ActionParsnip, just let it go man.
[22:59] <Gentoo64> Crash_O-D: permission denied? :s or a blank file?
[22:59] <Roasted_> ikonia, on the server I have both (sorry I was on my desktop)
[22:59] <bushy> I checked samba.conf   I found my listed in it as writeable =no.  I will change it but I need to know how to change the file from read only .
[22:59] <Roasted_> ikonia, why would the server have different than my desktop?
[22:59] <Crash_O-D> gentoo64 i right clicked hit properties
[22:59] <ikonia> Roasted_: think it through - how can changing settings on the client change how the server authenticates
[22:59] <kingnebex> ActionParsnip:on my desktop and has one hell of long name y?
[23:00] <ikonia> Roasted_: you're not running sshd on your client, that's why you don't have an sshd config
[23:00] <Gentoo64> Crash_O-D: no edit it from terminal, sudo vim/nano whatever
[23:00] <gamemakingdude> ok i rebooted
[23:00] <gamemakingdude> Still not able to connect
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: you said, as I saw. If you can give the name, I can give the command
[23:00] <antoniodominguez> i need the UPS Tuner Software of MGE (Merlin Gerin) anyone can help me? is very urgent
[23:00] <Crash_O-D> gentoo64 how about gedit?
[23:00] <Roasted_> ikonia, my desktop was never acting as the client, which makes me wonder why the server would ahve anything different. Besides swapping keys in and out I changed nothing else on the server.
[23:00] <kingnebex> ActionParsnip:awkey..bt im thinkn of redownloadn it
[23:00] <bushy> Do I just prepend sudo to gedit for samba.conf
[23:00] <HoNgOuRu> how do I install the cg compiler?
[23:01] <gamemakingdude> I'm not able to connect to the ftp service i have on my ubuntu
[23:01] <ikonia> Roasted_: what ???
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: how will that change anything?
[23:01] <Gentoo64> Crash_O-D: gksudo gedit is better than running the file manager as root
[23:01] <kingnebex> ActionParsnip: no p
[23:01] <rattatoue> bushy, you could chmod 066 thefile in the terminal that would make it read write
[23:01] <ikonia> Roasted_: we ssh'd in from your desktop earlier
[23:01] <Gentoo64> Crash_O-D: get used to nano if your new its easier
[23:01] <ikonia> Roasted_: how can it have "never been a client" we ssh'd in from it earlier
[23:01] <anonymousinuk> parsnip that link didnt help, should i be looking for a md5 checker ?
[23:01] <Roasted_> ikonia, that was using my laptop
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: you can rename the file if you want
[23:01] <ikonia> Roasted_: does your desktop have "ssh" on it
[23:01] <Roasted_> ikonia, yes
[23:01] <kingnebex> ActionParsnip:wat chane wat?
[23:01] <ikonia> Roasted_: then it is an ssh client - it has /etc/ssh_config
[23:02] <ikonia> Roasted_: it's that simple, ssh needs that config to work
[23:02] <KaiForce> can you boot the live CD without the GUI?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: the name of the file, so it's shorter...
[23:02] <Layne89> Hi all! I'm just a noob in Ubuntu, and I have a problem. I need to mount smb resource and I don't get how to do it. I read forums, and tried something like sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.162.245 /media/storage , but it does not works. I need help. If someone can tell me what to do, please explain. Thanks in advance
[23:02] <Roasted_> ikonia, so the sshd_config is generated when someone ssh's into the box in question?
[23:02] <ikonia> Roasted_: no
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: you must be real new to computers dude
[23:02] <ikonia> Roasted_: sshd_config is required before a ssh server can start
[23:02] <ikonia> Roasted_: ssh generates nothing dynamically
[23:02] <Gentoo64> Crash_O-D: just make a desktop file if you dont need it global, its much easier as if you edit /usr/share/applications file every time you update chromium youll need to re-edit it
[23:03] <Crash_O-D> gentoo64 gksudo gedit google chrome?
[23:03] <bushy> I prepended the command with sudo and that allowed me to save the changes
[23:03] <Gentoo64> no
[23:03] <KaiForce> Layne89:  error message?
[23:03] <kingnebex> ActionParsnip:im doin my best DUUUUDE
[23:03] <Roasted_> ikonia, sec, my desktop didn't have openssh-server installed actually...
[23:03] <kingnebex> ActionParsnip:by da way done renamin it
[23:03] <ikonia> Roasted_: of course it won't
[23:03] <gordon1234> bushy, sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf You will need to restart the service .... good reference here https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html
[23:03] <ikonia> Roasted_: it's CLIENT not a SERVER
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: its cool man, rename the file so it's smaller, name it what you want
[23:03] <Layne89> KaiForce: yes
[23:03] <Gentoo64> Crash_O-D: right click the desktop, create launcher, launcher name: chromium, command: chromium --no-referrers or whatever it was
[23:03] <Roasted_> ikonia, I just split the tasks of my desktop vs file server. my desktop used to be myd esktop + server in 1
[23:03] <KaiForce> Layne89 - that server path doesn't have a share specified
[23:03] <ikonia> Roasted_: openssh-server installs the SERVER - hence the name of the package openssh-SERVER
[23:04] <Roasted_> ikonia, now I have sshd_config. gotcha...
[23:04] <Gentoo64> Crash_O-D: why do you even need this no referers?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: call it:  install.bin
[23:04] <Crash_O-D> gentoo64 for a script
[23:04] <KaiForce> should look like similar to this:  //192.168.2.44/share
[23:04] <eniac> Jesi li tu?
[23:04] <kingnebex> ActionParsnip:done that all ready
[23:04] <alexxandroid> yo
[23:04] <bushy> gordon 1234- thanks for the tip.  I read the doc
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: then run:  chmod +x ~/Desktop/install.bin; sudo ~/Desktop/install.bin
[23:04] <KaiForce> Is there a way to boot the live CD directly to terminal, no GUI?
[23:04] <Gentoo64> KaiForce: yes
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> !text | KaiForce
[23:05] <KaiForce> Gentoo64: tyvm
[23:05] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: would that work for a livecd?
[23:05] <pixelhack> ok I have a question, in ubuntu how do I change how the terminal looks?
[23:05] <Layne89> KaiForce: It has. Anyway, i can connect by SSH (Putty), but I need mount share. In Windows this share is visible and it mounts as network disk
[23:05] <KaiForce> zykotick9: i'll try it and let you know
[23:05] <Gentoo64> pixelhack: right click and edit preferences
[23:05] <Gentoo64> gnome-terminal that is
[23:05] <zykotick9> KaiForce: my answer would be - probably not.
[23:05] <kingnebex> ActionParsnip:ima coppy that
[23:05] <KaiForce> Layne89: what do you mean.  Post the exact thing you are trying.
[23:06] <pixelhack> thanks gentoo64
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: cool, if you read it. Can you see what is going on?
[23:06] <Roasted_> ikonia, I see now. denied (publickey)
[23:06] <ikonia> Roasted_: there you go
[23:06] <eniac> big13
[23:07] <eniac> meni se diskonektovao komp
[23:07] <sasa90> benvenuti al nord
[23:07] <big13> ja sam pokusao ponovo da pokrenem compiz
[23:07] <Gentoo64> !language
[23:07] <big13> cube
[23:07] <Crash_O-D> gentoo64 thanks so much, but think it may be more then support for the script is saying
[23:08] <Layne89> KaiForce: sudo mount -t cifs -o rw //192.168.162.245 /media/storage    . Mount says: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.162.245,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        (for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you might        need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program)        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so "
[23:08] <bushy> Thanks to everyone for the help.  I'm working now!!!!!!!!1
[23:08] <gamemakingdude> Anyone know why i can't login into my accounts via ftp?
[23:08] <KaiForce> Layne89: you have no share specified, just a server.  You need //192.168.162.245/share
[23:09] <Roasted_> ikonia, generated a new key, added the pub contents to authorized_keys, now I get the yes/no prompt I did before. However, since the passwordauthentication is set to no, this clearly suggests it's just adding this entry to known hosts. eh? am I on the right path?
[23:09] <anonymousinuk> Actionparsnip helpi need noob friendly help MD5 means nothing to me
[23:09] <gamemakingdude> I have vsFTPd installed atm
[23:09] <gamemakingdude> should i remove that
[23:09] <Roasted_> ikonia, ha, still denied. cancel that.
[23:09] <gamemakingdude> and use something else?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> anonymousinuk: its how you test ISOs to make sure they are complete and consistent
[23:10] <gordon1234> Layne89, what sort of drive is it you are trying to mount? Windows? LInux?
[23:11] <psf> hello, i'm having trouble resizing mdadm partition. it says: "The filesystem is already 976757239 blocks long.  Nothing to do!". Ideas?
[23:11] <ikonia> Roasted_: see how it works now ?
[23:11] <Roasted_> ikonia, I'm getting the hang of it, still denied tho even though I have keys set up...
[23:11] <ikonia> Roasted_: take a look through the sshd_config file and you'll see the settings for allowing key based auth, host based auth, password based auth etc
[23:12] <ikonia> Roasted_: it sounds silly, but the settings are quite obvious in how they are named, have a read through
[23:12] <anonymousinuk> ok i failed to find what i needed on the link u sent what was i looking for?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> anonymousinuk: what ISO are you using?
[23:13] <gamemakingdude> Argh, this is annoying me, I really need the ftp to be setup asap
[23:13] <anonymousinuk> brasero (trying)
[23:13] <Layne89> gordon1234: As I know, it is Windows 7 on that machine, and it has virtualized by Vmware Debian. I am a noob in network technologies. I heard that folders are shared by Samba
[23:14] <Roasted_> ikonia, thanks. there doesn't seem to be that much meat in this config though. I'll google around though. appreciate it.
[23:14] <psf> hello, i'm having trouble resizing mdadm partition. it says: "The filesystem is already 976757239 blocks long.  Nothing to do!". Ideas?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> anonymousinuk: no thats an application. what is the ISO file you are trying to burn???
[23:15] <anonymousinuk> lol winxp pro
[23:15] <anonymousinuk> soz dude
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> !piracy | anonymousinuk
[23:15] <ikonia> Roasted_: there should be enough "obvious" settings in there to help you get the basic setup and then search for more detailed stuff
[23:15] <anonymousinuk> why is it pirate?
[23:15] <Roasted_> ikonia, from what I understand, the only authentication possible right now is key based authentication, which is denying me. Ic an't help but to wonder I goofed up the key stuff as a result.
[23:16] <ikonia> Roasted_: possibly
[23:16] <anonymousinuk> it has been payed for but no backup was made
[23:16] <ikonia> anonymousinuk: write to microsoft they will send you free media
[23:16] <danileigh79> anonymousinuk: it is illegal to burn a paid operating system to disc, thus, considered piracy
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> anonymousinuk: we have no way of knowing that
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: thanks
[23:17] <anonymousinuk> so i cant write this iso with ubunto?
[23:17] <danileigh79> anonymousinuk: if you need to make a backup, use the "bcakup tools" provided with a legitimately purchased copy of Windows
[23:17] <ikonia> anonymousinuk: where did you get the iso
[23:17] <anonymousinuk> how can i do that when the pc wont boot?
[23:17] <erpo> Was libjpeg-turbo not in lucid?
[23:17] <gordon1234> Layne89, So you are trying to access a drive that is running of a Windows 7 guest OS under a Linux Host OS?
[23:17] <ikonia> anonymousinuk: if you call microsoft they will send you out a replacment CD
[23:18] <anonymousinuk> its  torrent
[23:18] <Roasted_> lol
[23:18] <anonymousinuk> ikona for free i doubt it
[23:18] <ikonia> anonymousinuk: it is unwise to try to use media not provided with your license
[23:18] <ikonia> anonymousinuk: they do it for free, I have used the service when I stood on my CD
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> Layne89: http://maketecheasier.com/share-files-in-virtualbox-between-vista-guest-ubuntu-host/2008/11/12
[23:19] <danileigh79> anonymousinuk: Each windows disc comes with a key, use that disc and reinstall with the same key
[23:19] <Layne89> gordon1234: yes
[23:19] <zykotick9> erpo: libjpeg-turbo doesn't seem to be in lucid or 11.10, are you sure it's an ubuntu package?
[23:19] <anonymousinuk> i have the product key but no backup disc or files
[23:19] <erpo> zykotick9: On 11.10, I have libjpeg-turbo62.
[23:19] <ikonia> anonymousinuk: if you call microsoft they will send you a CD
[23:19] <Dr_willis> anonymousinuk,  for what OS?
[23:19] <danileigh79> anonymousinuk: then how did you install it in the first place?
[23:20] <danileigh79> Dr_willis: WinXP PRo
[23:20] <anonymousinuk> i didnt
[23:20] <zykotick9> erpo: libjpeg-turbo62 is in 11.10, but not lucid
[23:20] <ikonia> anonymousinuk: ok - here we go. Contact microsoft for media, this channel is for ubuntu support.
[23:20] <danileigh79> anonymousinuk: then how did this computer come to have windows no it in the first place?
[23:20] <gamemakingdude> I get this when i try to connect to my ftp "Status:	Connection attempt failed with "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server". "
[23:20] <ikonia> anonymousinuk: please stop asking - contact microsoft, they will give you media if you have a valid license
[23:20] <erpo> zykotick9: Thanks. :)
[23:20] <danileigh79> ikonia: You're right, why am I even bothering with windows lmao
[23:20] <Dr_willis> XP Ewww.
[23:20] <anonymousinuk> thnx ikona
[23:21] <gordon1234> Layne89, Yep, ActionParsnip s link should help you out
[23:21] <zykotick9> anonymousinuk: if it's a OEM copy, contact you computer manufacturer, not microsoft
[23:21] <danileigh79> Dr_willis: It's hella better than Vista or 7 lol now
[23:21] <rdz11> hi, my flash plugin doesn't work after the latest update, can anybody help?
[23:21] <anonymousinuk> so ubunto will retrict what iso i can burn?
[23:21] <StevenXL> !vnc
[23:21] <gamemakingdude> !ftp
[23:21] <Dr_willis> anonymousinuk,  an iso is an iso.. shouldent matter.
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> anonymousinuk: its Ubuntu, not ubunto
[23:22] <anonymousinuk> zykotick OEM? this is
[23:22] <gamemakingdude> Status:	Connection attempt failed with "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server".  I get this error when i try to connect to my ftp.
[23:22] <danileigh79> anonymousinuk: no, we just won't help you because we don't know if you're being truthful or not
[23:22] <zykotick9> anonymousinuk: dell/compaq/hp/etc.
[23:22] <anonymousinuk> dell
[23:22] <ikonia> anonymousinuk: contact microsoft UK, they will guide you through the process, even if it's OEM
[23:22] <anonymousinuk> its secound hand pc
[23:22] <zykotick9> anonymousinuk: contact dell, and you can order a cd/dvd
[23:23] <Dr_willis> time to route this to #windows channel i think. :)
[23:23] <anonymousinuk> ok ill do that
[23:23] <ikonia> yes
[23:23] <Layne89> gordon1234: I have to install virtual machine and install Windows on it to easy access to files, shared on Windows-runned host? I'll try. Sorry for noob questions and explanations, and Thanks You, guys. Good Luck!
[23:23] <ikonia> ywas
[23:23] <gamemakingdude> Why am i getting the feeling i'm kinda being ignored.
[23:23] <anonymousinuk> so ubuntu restrict the media that can be burned to cd?
[23:23] <ikonia> anonymousinuk: no, it doesn't
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> gamemakingdude: no matter how many times you repeat, if nobody knows, nobody will reply
[23:24] <anonymousinuk> yea it does i cant burn my xp iso!
[23:24] <danileigh79> does anybody know which repository I have to add to install VNC? It's not showing up in USC or Synaptic...
[23:24] <ikonia> anonymousinuk: that is probably because the torrent image is bad
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> gamemakingdude: do you want 1450 users to reply??
[23:24] <ikonia> anonymousinuk: contact microsoft and get a known good media source from them
[23:24] <gamemakingdude> danileight use console for tightvncserver
[23:24] <Dr_willis> danileigh79,  theres several vnc servers in the repos.
[23:24] <anonymousinuk> oh i see
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: its vinagre you need
[23:24] <Layne89> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[23:24] <danileigh79> Dr_willis: recommendation for best6?
[23:25] <rdz11> Am I the only person having trouble with the Adobe Flash Player plugin after the latest update in Ubuntu?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: vino is in a default install as far as I know
[23:25] <Jordan_U> danileigh79: vinagre is a VNC client and server, which IIRC comes installed in Ubuntu by default.
[23:25] <Dr_willis> danileigh79,  totally depends on what you are doing with the vnc session.
[23:25] <erpo> ActionParsnip: Did they ever fix vinagre so it isn't dead dog slow?
[23:25] <anonymousinuk> thnx ikonia / actionparsnip
[23:25] <gordon1234> Layne89, what is currently running on the PC? You should be able to connect if it is running Windows 7 as a host. No need to install VirtualBox unless you want to run miltiple OS's on the box.
[23:25] <Dr_willis> vinagre/vini shares the current desktop. Tightvnc for example.. does not.
[23:25] <danileigh79> Dr_willis: Just wanna control lappy from android phone
[23:25] <anonymousinuk> that was stressful
[23:25] <gamemakingdude> Well, I have apache and vsftpd isn't working for me for some reason
[23:25] <Dr_willis> danileigh79,  i use ssh from my phone. :)
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> rdz11: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[23:25] <gamemakingdude> can't set up an account
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> erpo: never used it. VNC is horrible
[23:26] <Layne89> Currently runned Ubuntu 11.10 x86-64
[23:26] <Dr_willis> danileigh79,  theres also splashtop, and teamviewer. :)
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> rdz11: use http://pastie.org    or similar
[23:27] <xsl> guys even tough i made grub verbose, at boot the last thing i see is "running /scripts/init-bottom ..." and i can't see actual services starting up
[23:27] <danileigh79> Dr_willis: those two for phone or lappy or both?
[23:27] <Dr_willis> danileigh79,  all of the above. :)
[23:27] <zykotick9> xsl: you might want to try removing "quiet slash"
[23:27] <dat789> hi
[23:27] <dat789> i've got a Microsoft LifeCam
[23:28] <rdz11> ActionParsnip: hi... this is it:    http://paste.ubuntu.com/850689/
[23:28] <dat789> it doesn't seem to work
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> dat789: does it work in cheese?
[23:28] <dat789> can any body help?
[23:28] <Dr_willis> !webcam | dat789
[23:28] <dat789> nope
[23:28] <Dr_willis> its possible its not supported at all.
[23:28] <xsl> zykotick9: i did, thats why i can see it verbose, and i watch kernel boot up - but after the "running /scripts/init-bottom ..." i dont see anything else . but wen i do shutdown .. i see them all ... could plymouth be broken?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> dat789: then run:   lsusb   then use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[23:28] <OU818> !fap
[23:29] <dat789> lsusb at the terminal ?
[23:29] <zykotick9> xsl: not sure.  good luck.
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> rdz11: sudo apt-get --purge remove browser-plugin-gnash flashplugin-installer gnash gnash-common
[23:29] <OU818> !nasty-narcoleptic
[23:29] <xsl> zykotick9: :) thx for trying
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> rdz11: then enable the partner repo and install adobe-installer    it will give 64bit flash to match your 64bit OS
[23:30] <rdz11> ActionParsnip: thanks! I'll try that
[23:30] <Layne89> gordon1234: Currently runned Ubuntu 11.10 x86-64. I connected by openvpn to corporative network. I actually don't know how all it works, but I want to mount host 192.168.162.245. I don't know what OS is runned on that host. I think that is Debian, which installed on Vmware on Windows 7 Corporate Edition
[23:31] <dat789> ok, I'm here --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasMicrosoft
[23:31] <dat789> my cam is the first one
[23:31] <dat789> LifeCam cinema... what's next ?
[23:32] <Layne89> gordon1234: Stop, i'm fool. On that host Debian, because I can connect by SSH to this host
[23:32] <Dr_willis> install/run cheese from a terminal, look for error messages perhaps dat789
[23:32] <dat789> i've got cheese
[23:32] <NyLes> hi, do i really need to have a swap area?
[23:32] <dat789> but how to run it from terminal ? pls... forgive my noobiness
[23:32] <Dr_willis> NyLes,  a swap partition is very reccomended.
[23:33] <xsl> is Apparmor really needed ?
[23:33] <kawarshy> hi, how to change ubuntu 11.10 interface  language to arabic, because the login screen dose not have that option!
[23:33] <Dr_willis> NyLes,  if you ever want to use hibernate - its also  required.
[23:33] <OerHeks> dat789, open dash and type cheese
[23:33] <Dr_willis> !apparmor
[23:33] <NyLes> Dr_wilis ow, thanks, what is your recommended size for it?
[23:33] <xsl> s/apparmor/apport
[23:34] <dat789> cheese opened.
[23:34] <dat789> just a blank black screen
[23:34] <rebe> I have swap file, not partition
[23:34] <rebe> less trouble
[23:34] <gordon1234> Layne89, so on the basis that you are trying to mount a drive on a Windows 7 guest OS, under a Linux host OS, the previous link should help you out.
[23:34] <gamemakingdude> Anyone know why i get this error "htpasswd: cannot create file /etc/vsftpd/passwd "
[23:34] <dat789> can't see error or anything anywhere
[23:34] <ikonia> gamemakingdude permissions ?
[23:34] <ikonia> gamemakingdude: path doesn't exist ?
[23:34] <ikonia> gamemakingdude: work it out
[23:34] <adominguezc> i need the software UPS Tuner of MGE (Merlin Gerin) anyone calp me?? is very urgent
[23:34] <fire3> gamemakingdude: use sudo ?
[23:35] <ikonia> adominguezc: is that software available on linux ?
[23:35] <OerHeks> dat789, keep cheese open, unplug & plug your usb cam again.
[23:35] <gamemakingdude> it wont work with sudo
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> dat789: i thought you said it didn't work in cheese:
[23:35] <NyLes> how can i calculate the rght swap area for me?
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: how much ram do you have?
[23:35] <adominguezc> ikonia: i don't know
[23:35] <ikonia> adominguezc: then ask the vendor if they make a linux version
[23:35] <Layne89> gordon1234: Thanks, I'll try. Good luck!
[23:35] <NyLes> ActionParsnip i have 512RAM?
[23:35] <dat789> well, cheese is not showing anything
[23:35] <adominguezc> MGE is now Schlinder
[23:35] <Dr_willis> NyLes,  id suggest a gb+ or more... for such a low ram system.
[23:35] <dat789> ActionParsnip: Cheese is not showing anything. no picture.
[23:35] <gamemakingdude> Hmm
[23:36] <gamemakingdude> Theres no vsftpd file
[23:36] <Dr_willis> NyLes,  definatly look into expanding your ram more if you can find some cheap.
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: then about 1200Mb will be enough (Double RAM plus a little bit)
[23:36] <ikonia> gamemakingdude: they you go then
[23:36] <ikonia> gamemakingdude: /etc/vsftpd is a directory not a file
[23:36] <rdz11> ActionParsnip: thank you very much that worked perfectly fine!!!! :D
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> dat789: what is the identifying line in lsusb?
[23:36] <NyLes> Dr_willis, ActionParsnip, thanks for both of you ^^
[23:36] <zykotick9> NyLes: are you installing regular Ubuntu?  that's only 1/2 the recommended RAM.
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> rdz11: I'm good with flash stuffs :)
[23:36] <gamemakingdude> Shouldn't it create one
[23:36] <gamemakingdude> ?
[23:37] <ikonia> gamemakingdude: it can't - that's the error, it wants to create one in /etc/vsftpd, but can't
[23:37] <dat789> ActionParsnip: Bus 002 Device 010: ID 045e:075d Microsoft Corp. LifeCam Cinema
[23:37] <NyLes> zykotick9 yeah, im installing 10.04? should i install lubuntu instead?
[23:37] <ikonia> gamemakingdude: you have to work out why, probably permissions are wrong
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> dat789: and the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[23:37] <gamemakingdude> I mean when i installed vsftpd shouldn't it had installed that directory?
[23:37] <zykotick9> NyLes: with 10.04 it might be ok.
[23:37] <ikonia> gamemakingdude: what ???
[23:37] <rdz11> ActionParsnip: I see :D ... I had 3 days with this bug ... thank you again :D
[23:37] <ikonia> gamemakingdude: re-read the error,
[23:38] <dat789> ActionParsnip: precise
[23:38] <NyLes> zykotick9 thanks for the info, im trying to install it now i hope it works fine..
[23:38] <zykotick9> NyLes: IF not, then try lubuntu
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> dat789: ask in #ubuntu+1   you are using pre-release which isn't supported here until it is released
[23:38] <dat789> OerHeks: unplugged, and plugged back in. nothing happens in Cheese
[23:38] <dat789> hmm...
[23:39] <dat789> what do i ask there?
[23:39] <dat789> same as i have here?
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> dat789: the same question, your release is offtopic here
[23:39] <NyLes> zykotick9: yes i would,  reall need to familiarize myself with linux now..
[23:40] <NyLes> what is the file system for ubuntu? sorry this is my first time..
[23:40] <OerHeks> dat789, all i find is a bugreport for 11.10 as well https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese/+bug/930671
[23:40] <zykotick9> NyLes: ext3 for lucid i believe
[23:41] <dat789> OerHeks: I've also got guvcview installed
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: its precise so will be probably fraught with issues
[23:42] <dat789> OerHeks: How do I use guvcview?
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> dat789: your release is offtopic here, please go to #ubuntu+1
[23:42] <dat789> OerHeks: the url you sent says guvcview works with LifeCam Cinema ...
[23:42] <NyLes> zykotick9: thanks again..
[23:42] <dat789> uhh...
[23:43] <dat789> ok. but no response there :(
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> dat789: irrelevant
[23:43] <zykotick9> dat789: you probably shouldn't be running +1
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> dat789: the latest release supported here is Oneiric.
[23:43] <OerHeks> dat789, ubuntu+1 is the place to be.
[23:43] <gamemakingdude> Argh this FTP is annoying me!
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> dat789: I suggest you reinstall and use Oneiric
[23:44] <OerHeks> dat789, all i confirm is that the issue is noticed in 11.10 as well
[23:45] <zykotick9> gamemakingdude: good time to see http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie then ;)
[23:46] <dat789> Oneiric, eh?
[23:46] <Kaapa> any powertop users? How can I find the causes for high hrtimer_wakeup s?
[23:47] <danileigh79> how do I find my external ip address?
[23:47] <dat789> dash --> guvcview. didn't start. :( what's wrong ...? /me sobs
[23:47]  * dat789 sobs
[23:47] <OerHeks> danileigh79, www.whatismyip.com
[23:47] <zykotick9> danileigh79: visit www.whatsmyip.org
[23:47] <danileigh79> zykotick9: thanks
[23:48] <NyLes> im creating my swap partition now, file system is linux-swap right? then what about the create as? primary or logical? or extended?
[23:48] <OerHeks> danileigh79, our dutch version, shows you a lot more about your browser * plugins  > http://www.watismijnip.nl/
[23:49] <dat789> ok. how to check which version of Ubuntu I'm currently running?
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: IP=`wget -q -O - http://ip.keithscode.com`; echo $IP
[23:49] <zykotick9> dat789: "lsb_release -a"
[23:49] <NyLes> im creating my swap partition now, file system is linux-swap right? then what about the create as? primary or logical? or extended?
[23:49] <zykotick9> NyLes: you can have a maximum or 4 primary paritions, is that a factor?
[23:49] <dat789> yup
[23:49] <dat789> 12.04 apparently
[23:49] <zykotick9> NyLes: yes, swap = linux-swap
[23:50] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: you love making me do things the hard way, don't you? ;P j/k
[23:50] <NyLes> zykotick9: ok thanks..
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: its handy for scripts if you want your IP and whatnot
[23:51] <danileigh79> ActionParsnip: just wanted to see if windows could rdp a linux computer
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> danileigh79: you'll need LTSP for that
[23:51] <astro5> does anyone know what packages i need to program with openGL in C++? i am following tutorial and get error "cannot find -lGL" when i try to compile & build the tutorial program
[23:51] <tyler-riddle> someone available for support? running a 64bit ubuntu
[23:51] <zykotick9> !ask | tyler-riddle
[23:52] <gordon1234> !patience
[23:52] <astro5> i looked in synaptic package manager and i have libsdl1.2-dev and freeglut3 am i missing a package to be able to program in opengl?
[23:53] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: "wget -q -O - http://ip.keithscode.com" handy, thanks.
[23:54] <tyler-riddle> i'm attempting to use chatango.com its a flash based chat site, but i keep getting error# 2048, disable proxy and firewall. I dont use either of these, and my network is working fine. is there someone who can help me fix this? ii already updated to the most recent flash, as they suggested
[23:56] <wiz_> hey guys
[23:56] <wiz_> how's everyone?
[23:56] <gamemakingdude1> Good
[23:57] <luist> hey guys… what command can i use to install a package with a graphic interface?
[23:57] <erpo> I'm doing quite well.
[23:58] <erpo> luist: Try the ubuntu software center.
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> tyler-riddle: do other flash things work ok?
[23:58] <tyler-riddle> yes, youtube, and a bunch of other things
[23:58] <luist> erpo: uh? i mean i have an rpm package and i want to install it but i want a progress bar to appear and something, not just apt-get install
[23:58] <tyler-riddle> i've used several flash content on myspace
[23:58] <wiz_> i'm having a bit of a problem here, my brother installed a so called "stable" version of ubuntu, and i've made all the required updates to the latest version
[23:58] <tyler-riddle> youtube, and a few other vid sites
[23:59] <zykotick9> luist: installing RPMs on ubuntu is a bad idea
[23:59] <wiz_> been having some glitches but nothing really bad, but by far the biggest problem is that when i restart the system it just stops at the purple image
[23:59] <wiz_> and nothing happens
[23:59] <luist> zykotick9: rofl my bad… debs i mean
[23:59] <wiz_> and i have to force shutdown the laptop...