| micahg | ochosi: what ever happened with making an "upstream" release of elementary-xfce-dark so Ubuntu Studio could benefit as well? | 01:11 |
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| ochosi | micahg: hm, it has already been packaged by mr_pouit (in xubuntu-icon-theme), someone from studio said they would discuss it with their PL whether that's a problem | 01:12 |
| micahg | ScottL: ^^ | 01:13 |
| ochosi | micahg: sorry i didn't follow that up more, i kinda expected someone else to take it from there | 01:13 |
| micahg | ochosi: no problem, sounds like you did your part, thanks | 01:14 |
| ochosi | k, yw | 01:14 |
| ochosi | gah, there is such an annoying bug in the icons btw | 01:14 |
| ochosi | this is how the power-icon should look like: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-02202012-021032am.php | 01:14 |
| micahg | all my icons are dark | 01:15 |
| ochosi | what do you mean? | 01:17 |
| ochosi | and this is what it currently looks like: http://imagebin.org/199742 | 01:17 |
| ochosi | if you look close enough, the second one is scaled down a bit | 01:17 |
| micahg | well, except for the sound indicator, all my icons are dark on a dark background | 01:18 |
| ochosi | in precise? | 01:18 |
| ochosi | or in oneiric? | 01:18 |
| micahg | precise | 01:18 |
| ochosi | oh | 01:18 |
| ochosi | what icon-theme are you using? | 01:18 |
| micahg | elementary Xubuntu dark which I guess is the wrong one | 01:19 |
| ochosi | right, that's not really maintained anymore | 01:19 |
| ochosi | it's deprecated | 01:19 |
| ochosi | elementary-xfce-dark should work | 01:19 |
| micahg | ah, Xfce dark is much better :) | 01:19 |
| ochosi | good to hear :) | 01:19 |
| ochosi | that is what i've been working on | 01:20 |
| micahg | well, except for the xfce4-mixer icon | 01:20 |
| ochosi | rly? | 01:20 |
| ochosi | what's up with that? | 01:20 |
| micahg | it's dark instead of white | 01:20 |
| ochosi | strange, mr_pouit didn't mention that | 01:20 |
| ScottL | thanks micahg, ochosi | 01:20 |
| * micahg figures his nm-applet icon issue will be fixed now as well | 01:20 | |
| micahg | ScottL: so, you'd like to use the xfce dark icon theme? | 01:21 |
| ochosi | ScottL: np, let us know whether the package being xubuntu-icon-theme is a problem. it has mainly remained like that for convenience i think | 01:21 |
| ochosi | actually there are two versions, one for dark, one for bright panels | 01:21 |
| ScottL | micahg, yes, the elementary-xfce-dark (i think) is the one that looks good to me | 01:21 |
| ScottL | ochosi, you mean there are two versions within the same package? | 01:22 |
| ochosi | micahg: what would you recommend for my vm? daily image or alpha? | 01:22 |
| micahg | ochosi: daily | 01:22 |
| ochosi | ScottL: yes, but the -dark version is just an addon | 01:22 |
| ScottL | micahg, i guess we (ubuntustudio) should still have a ubuntustudio-icon-theme pacakge that relies on xubuntu-icon-theme but also has the /pixmap directory | 01:23 |
| micahg | ScottL: ah, so, that's all that's in that package is the 3 icon themes, elementary xubuntu, elementary xfce, and elementary xfce dark | 01:23 |
| ochosi | ScottL: it's like that: elementary-xfce contains everything. elementary-xfce-dark is an addon that inherits elementary-xfce but replaces the panel-icons with white ones | 01:23 |
| ochosi | micahg: actually elementary xubuntu should be dropped | 01:23 |
| ochosi | micahg: not sure why that's still there | 01:23 |
| micahg | ScottL: no pixmaps in this package | 01:24 |
| ochosi | micahg: maybe it should be replaced by a symlink to elementary-xfce-dark for upgrades | 01:24 |
| micahg | ochosi: can you file a bug to track this? | 01:24 |
| ScottL | micahg, how should i get the ubuntu studio logo then onto a system? | 01:24 |
| * ScottL is afk a bit, taking son to town for a bit, should be back in about one hour | 01:26 | |
| micahg | ScottL: that's what the xubuntu-artwork package does, don't know if you want to copy that idea, "icon theme" for that seems counterintuitive | 01:26 |
| ochosi | micahg: against xubuntu-artwork? | 01:27 |
| micahg | yeah | 01:27 |
| ScottL | micahg, should the menu icon then be part of the ubuntustudio-menu package? | 01:27 |
| micahg | ScottL: sounds reasonable | 01:27 |
| * micahg also steps away for a few minutes | 01:30 | |
| ochosi | micahg: ok, reported bug and subscribed you | 01:31 |
| micahg | ochosi: thanks | 02:17 |
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| ScottL | micahg, ochosi: can you give me an overview of what i need to do for the icons? | 02:42 |
| ScottL | e.g. include elementary-xfce-dark in seeds or have ubuntustudio-default-settings depend on them | 02:43 |
| ScottL | should i just get rid of the ubuntustudio-icon-theme? | 02:43 |
| ScottL | note that i basically want to use the xubuntu theme and icons the way they are, i do not want to add anything different | 02:44 |
| ScottL | with the only exception that i want the ubuntu studio icon in a few places in lieu of the xubuntu xfce icon | 02:44 |
| ochosi | micahg: can't reproduce your problem with the mixer in my precise vm | 02:57 |
| ochosi | micahg: the icon is there and it's white | 02:57 |
| ochosi | ScottL: i don't really have any packaging expertise, i guess it's best if you talk to mr_pouit about that | 02:57 |
| ochosi | i'm off, night everyone! | 03:00 |
| Unit193 | Adios. | 03:00 |
| micahg | ochosi: ok, maybe a left over, I"ll have to dig later | 03:42 |
| micahg | ScottL: so, those pixmaps are in the artwork package, so you could Ubuntu Studio could just recommend/depend on xubuntu-icon-theme | 03:43 |
| ScottL | micahg, but i need to replace the xubuntu pixmaps with ubuntu studio ones | 04:23 |
| ScottL | /usr/share/pixmaps has xubuntu specific images of the xfce logo | 04:23 |
| micahg | ScottL: yes, those are shipping in xubuntu-artwork (a separate package), so you can ship them in ubuntustudio-menu as you suggested | 04:25 |
| ScottL | okay, so i can make something like us-default-settings or us-look depend on xubuntu-icon-theme and then add the us specific pixmaps to the us-menu package | 04:34 |
| ScottL | i can do that :) | 04:34 |
| micahg | ScottL: you can just seed the icon package (recommends or depends depending on how important it is to US) | 04:37 |
| ScottL | good point | 05:09 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/q_planning/xubuntu-q.pdf updated | 09:44 |
| astraljava | Heh, I can't remember when I have been using FF the last time, but so far the current release on oneiric seems to beat Chrome pretty much hands down. I had no idea! | 11:58 |
| mr_pouit | ochosi_: I'll do s/inherits=elementary-xfce/inherits=elementary-xfce-dark/ instead I think | 13:00 |
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| ochosi | leo-unglaub: hey there | 15:26 |
| mr_pouit | (oh, btw, i'm not an xfce dev, only an active contributor) | 15:27 |
| knome | hey mr_pouit :) | 15:28 |
| mr_pouit | hey :p | 15:28 |
| knome | madnick, hey? | 15:28 |
| leo-unglaub | hi ochosi | 15:30 |
| ochosi | leo-unglaub: just saw that you're a fellow austrian :) | 15:30 |
| j1mc | ochosi: i'm going to be in vienna from wednesday afternoon through saturday morning. are you near vienna? | 15:31 |
| ochosi | j1mc: i'm _in_ vienna :) | 15:31 |
| leo-unglaub | ochosi: well...i am from germany....but i am living in vienna | 15:31 |
| leo-unglaub | thats a big difference *g* | 15:31 |
| j1mc | whoa, cool. we should meet up. i'm staying at a hotel near the city center. | 15:31 |
| knome | j1mc, woot?? | 15:31 |
| ochosi | j1mc: but we'd have to meet on wednesday, from thursday on i'll be on holidays (switzerland) | 15:31 |
| j1mc | ochosi: ok | 15:31 |
| j1mc | knome: yes, woot | 15:31 |
| ochosi | j1mc: well or thursday breakfast... :) | 15:32 |
| knome | j1mc, so when are you going to be in helsinki?? | 15:32 |
| ochosi | j1mc: where exactly are you at? | 15:32 |
| ochosi | leo-unglaub: hehe | 15:32 |
| j1mc | one sec... | 15:32 |
| ochosi | leo-unglaub: anyhoo, if you're up to help out with xubuntu, that would be most welcome | 15:32 |
| knome | yeppers | 15:33 |
| j1mc | knome & ochosi - i just wrote up a blog post: http://j1m.net | 15:33 |
| ochosi | oh right you're in brno! | 15:33 |
| ochosi | nice | 15:33 |
| knome | j1mc, i noticed, i'm subscribed via rss | 15:33 |
| leo-unglaub | ochosi: sure | 15:34 |
| knome | j1mc, though didn't read it since wasn't too interesting thing, sorry ;( | 15:34 |
| leo-unglaub | i am working currently on some things | 15:34 |
| j1mc | knome: no worries - it's not for you, per se. | 15:34 |
| leo-unglaub | but, i am just my 4 day in xfce, i take some time lerning the workflow... | 15:34 |
| knome | j1mc, i know ;] | 15:34 |
| leo-unglaub | for an old gnome2 user it's not always the same | 15:34 |
| leo-unglaub | ochosi: are you in vienna? | 15:34 |
| * knome organizes an xfce-xubuntu-hackfest someday in helsinki | 15:34 | |
| ochosi | leo-unglaub: yup | 15:34 |
| leo-unglaub | ochosi: where exactly? 1170? | 15:35 |
| ochosi | leo-unglaub: 1160 | 15:35 |
| ochosi | leo-unglaub: why, are you trying to triangulate my ip? :D | 15:35 |
| ochosi | j1mc: that video looks pretty impressive. btw are the scrollbars native gtk3.4 or what is that? | 15:36 |
| leo-unglaub | ochosi: lol, just a lucky guess.... i am living in 1170 and working in 1160 :) | 15:36 |
| knome | ochosi, maybe he's an old perv | 15:36 |
| knome | leo-unglaub, you should meet one day with ochosi so he could convince you to start working on xubuntu | 15:36 |
| ochosi | leo-unglaub: heh, right. well i saw that on your website | 15:36 |
| j1mc | ochosi: i'll be at this hotel: http://www.austrotel.at/en/hotel_vienna_viennart/the_hotel.html | 15:37 |
| j1mc | i don't know if it is a good hotel, but it looks nice in the pictures | 15:37 |
| leo-unglaub | you googled me? *g* | 15:37 |
| knome | j1mc, well their site doesn't work without js... so they must suck!!1 | 15:37 |
| j1mc | :/ | 15:38 |
| knome | i mean, that's hilarious | 15:38 |
| ochosi | leo-unglaub: well that was easy enough, you use your real-name everywhere :) | 15:38 |
| leo-unglaub | :) | 15:38 |
| knome | why don't the hotels hire somebody who can do unobtrusive photo-slideshows | 15:38 |
| knome | eg. without js, it's a static image | 15:38 |
| ochosi | j1mc: oh, right, i dunno that hotel – but that's not a huge surprise, i live here ;) | 15:38 |
| j1mc | sorry, knome, i'll be sure to complain to the manager. | 15:39 |
| j1mc | :) | 15:39 |
| knome | j1mc, please do! | 15:39 |
| knome | j1mc, also, tell them my contact information | 15:39 |
| j1mc | ok :) | 15:39 |
| ochosi | j1mc: but yes, i know where it is and i'm physically close to that place now (less than 1km) | 15:39 |
| j1mc | ah, excellent | 15:39 |
| j1mc | i'll need to check and see when i arrive. pm me your email address, if you don't mind. | 15:40 |
| knome | ochosi, can you convince j1mc too to work (again) on xubuntu? | 15:40 |
| j1mc | knome: he can try :) | 15:40 |
| knome | i'm sure he can. | 15:41 |
| mr_pouit | (with enough rhum and a new baseball bat) | 15:41 |
| ochosi | haha | 15:41 |
| knome | mr_pouit, yes | 15:41 |
| * ochosi leaves to buy a baseball bat | 15:41 | |
| knome | ochosi, great, i can cover some of the expenses | 15:42 |
| leo-unglaub | is Daniel Morales here= | 15:42 |
| leo-unglaub | i have a question about this thunar share ṕlugin | 15:42 |
| ochosi | leo-unglaub: don't think so, you might wanna ask in #xfce-dev, maybe someone there knows him | 15:43 |
| ochosi | is he the original developer or maintainer? | 15:43 |
| leo-unglaub | yes, he is | 15:43 |
| mr_pouit | he's the original developer, but I think he's been inactive for ~18 months | 15:44 |
| ochosi | k | 15:44 |
| mr_pouit | ochosi: fyi, ambiance doesn't show this box for menu icons, so I guess the fix is somewhere in it :[ | 15:47 |
| mr_pouit | (same for radiance) | 15:47 |
| knome | hmm | 15:47 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: yeah, i thought so | 15:47 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: i just started working in my precise vm 24hrs ago and have been @work since the morning, so not much time yet | 15:47 |
| mr_pouit | what, 86400 seconds and still no fix? ;-) | 15:48 |
| ochosi | well i know you have high expectations from me (and yes, it's totally justified, i _am_ a genius) | 15:49 |
| mr_pouit | indeed | 15:51 |
| ochosi | no, seriously, i'm not sure i can manage it this week | 15:51 |
| ochosi | but i still have hope | 15:51 |
| ochosi | if it's not too complicated or elaborate | 15:52 |
| ochosi | bbl | 16:00 |
| knome | ochosi, our own 7-year old genius | 16:08 |
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| micahg | mr_pouit: is it worth asking to get lightdm-gtk-greeter uploaded to experimental, or could we upload from the VCS? | 22:19 |
| mr_pouit | feel free to ask corsac, but I'm not sure he'll agree | 22:33 |
| mr_pouit | Anyway, uploading from the svn should be fine. | 22:33 |
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