[00:00] s/that w/than [00:00] dvanstone: i dont know. Audio is supposed to be close real-time [00:01] yeah i know that real time issue is a big one [00:01] so i go... i have a 12.04 to install... lets hope it works :P [00:01] thx nikin! [00:01] you'r welcome [00:01] bye [00:01] bye [00:02] nikin; doesn't sound like a real sound issue if you know pulse [00:06] dvanstone what u mean? [00:09] it's not real or sound and attempted logged ... but go for it === b91 is now known as barnes91 === c_smith is now known as c_smith_ [01:39] Is there a way to add a ssh key to my login keychain so that it unlocks automatically during login? I seem to remember this being prompted to do this in versions around the time of the last LTS release. === b91 is now known as barnes91 [04:23] What is a possible reason of some applications being listed in "~/.local/share/applications/" twice or more (hence being mentioned few times in the application choice windows)? [08:48] guess i could share this info if anyone has a e-350/450 apu and trying to get hardware acceleration working with xv in precise 12.04.. don't expect it to work for a while. xv playback is broken with fglrx in versions 11.11, 11.12, and 12.1. however gl playback is fine with hardware acceleration in fglrx version 11.12, but not in 12.1 or 11.11. i messed with it all night until i figured out the optimal settings with the latest xorg abi [08:48] I don't have it, but you got cut off. [08:48] "optimal settings with the latest xorg abi" [08:51] well the optimal settings with hardware acceleration being fglrx 11.12 with xv disabled in xorg.conf and setting your video players to use openGL for video output and be sure to enable acceleration in the player also [08:52] done a few other things like append the following to /etc/environment: LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME=xvba ; LIBVA_DRIVERS_PATH=/usr/lib/va/drivers [08:53] its not as good as xv playback, but it gets the job done playing 1080p with your Zacate series apu [08:57] god-zotac: thank you, i have a E-450 APU [08:57] baizon:: guess you have been kinda baffled by it too huh [08:57] without doing the above it will crash your Xorg server, or you will have to use the open source driver without hardware acceleration [08:58] or you will just get a green screen for video when using GL [08:58] hmm [08:58] its some weird things [08:58] but bugs with xorg + fglrx are always common [08:58] as soon as fglrx fixes a bug, xorg introduces a new one [08:58] i hate fglrx [08:59] i don't care nothing for it either [08:59] especially on dual-screen [08:59] just using it right now because of the hdmi audio [08:59] but its the only way to get decent HD playback on these e series apus it seems [09:00] indeed [09:02] maybe fglrx 12.2 will fix the problem [09:02] i'm hoping it does [09:02] i read in a forum that it did [09:03] thank god [09:03] but i don't know how anyone knows unless they work for amd [09:03] i can't find a beta/preview of 12.2 for linux anywhere, there is one for windows, but not linux [09:03] and nothing about the windows driver would apply to linux, since the issue has to do with xorg and xv [09:04] i'm kinda skeptical about it being fixed in 12.2 though [09:05] since 12.1 fails to work where 11.12 does and 12.1 also fails with xv the same as all previous versions did that are compatible with xorg 1.11+ [09:06] :( [09:06] gotta get some sleep though. ttyl [09:07] see you :) [09:07] and thx for the info [09:08] no problem [09:22] ok, if I used startxfce / in my xstartup file for vnc, and you "log out" using the GUI, the screen goes grey.. even when you log back in.. how do you prevent this? [09:27] basically if you log out it seems to kill the xfce4 session, and logging back into the vnc server doesnt seem to run "xstartup" again so it doesnt start a new session [10:07] hey [10:26] anyone here ? [10:26] no [10:27] !hi | ZippyX [10:27] ZippyX: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [10:27] thanks [10:27] :) [10:27] i have xubuntu 11.10 installed but i cannot get the top menu icons aligned to center [10:28] ZippyX: you add two separators and make them both stretch [10:28] at the first boot the bottom menu icons were in center, but some bug or something and they are aligned to the left [10:29] bottom bar, not topo bar (sorry) [10:29] ok, ill try that [10:30] hum, i cannot get the icons in the center [10:31] i can move them but they allways allign to the left [10:32] if you add a separator there, then it will push them to the right, if you add another one at the right, then the icons will be pushed to the center [10:32] ZippyX: like TheSheep said, try to add a seperator to the left, that stretches [10:32] <--separator-->ICONS<--separator--> [10:40] i did tried that, but if i add a separator on the left the icons dont move to the center [10:41] if i trie to move the separator to the center the icons doesnt move [10:41] the option in bottom pannel "extended" needs to be selscted ? [10:42] selected [10:42] ZippyX: yes [10:43] its selected [10:44] the first time i booted and the bottom menu was aligned to center i have unselected that option and i could not the the icons centered anymore [10:44] how do i reset the bottom menu ? [11:45] ZippyX: don't know about resetting, but you can 'center' items by adding separator with 'expand'-property checked on both sides of launchers [11:46] so panel items are like: separator launcher launcher .. launcher separator [11:47] hm, too late, it seems :/ [12:04] hi. trying to get my hp scanjet 5590 to work, currently no scanners show up in simple scan even though it's on and connected. it worked out of the box a few months ago with 10.04. i'm using xubuntu 11.10 now. tried different usb cables. google no help. any advice on how to diagnose? [12:22] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1864115 adriannom [12:22] augh ask 'n quit === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson [13:32] hi, is there an easyier way to edit multiple monitors support rather than editing the config file manualy? [13:45] leo-unglaub, try arandr [13:47] ablomen: works perfect, thanks ! [13:53] is there a gui available for managing what services are started automatically? [14:29] jadoe: any services in particular? [14:30] tomcat, openarena. but i already found sysv-rc-conf. [14:31] sudo update-rc.d -f tomcat remove [14:32] et cetera [14:32] sudo update-rc.d tomcat defaults to enable [14:55] guys.. anyone use a vnc server with xubuntu ? [14:58] Kingsy: sure [14:59] Marzata: what does your xstartup file look like? [15:00] .vnc/xstartup I mean [15:00] Kingsy: let me se the server setup [15:01] Kingsy: no .vnc/ [15:01] Marzata: see I am struggling cos I am using this to start the xfce session --> startxfce / but if the user when in the session, logs out, the vnc gui doesnt close but goes grey.. if you close the vnc screen and log back in its still grey [15:02] it looks like it only makes a new xfce interface when the user logs into the server for the first time [15:02] Marzata: huh? so how do you start your xfce session ? [15:03] Kingsy: there is vino installed on the server machines [15:03] ugh.. nevermind ;) [15:29] bit old maybe but I like xnest [15:49] I added a new type with gconftool-2 (/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/mutt-id/command), but "xdg-open mutt-id:lkdjfkdjf" still says that it doesn't recognize the type [15:49] do I need to reload the gconf files? [15:51] I've got a bit of an issue [15:51] My cursor becomes invisible as soon as it should appear on the second screen [15:51] It's still there though, because I can hover and click buttons and such [15:52] !details | ThePendulum [15:52] ThePendulum: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [15:52] Well... what more can I say? [15:52] I've got a dual screen setup, to be clear [15:52] And the cursor becomes fully graphically invisible as soon as I move it to the second screen [15:52] The right one [15:52] It IS visible on the other screen, however [15:52] what xubuntu are you using? wich video card are you using? etc [15:53] Xubuntu 11.10, Radeon 6850 [15:53] I had this issue before, but it somehow solved itself [15:53] mmhm [15:53] However, I'm not really looking forward until that happens [15:53] lol [15:54] *to wait [15:55] my problem is known (xdg-open won't recognize new entries), so just ignore it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/788673 [15:55] Launchpad bug 805063 in unity-2d (Ubuntu Oneiric) "duplicate for #788673 [dash] preferred applications are not stored in GConf anylonger" [Critical,Fix released] [15:58] ThePendulum, are you using compiz? [16:03] GridCube: Nope. It's a fresh install besides some irrelevant software [16:04] What's the best method for setting up a dual screen? [16:04] never had to, so i don't know, but i guess that i would try to set it up with arandr [16:04] I know how to set it up with randr, but that's only temporary [16:04] *xrandr [16:05] brb [16:17] put the commands you use with xrandr in .xprofile [16:19] he's gone for a while mongy [16:25] meh [16:26] mongy, care to help me with something? [16:26] how do I add items to the top level menu, like web browser and email client is by default. [16:26] mongy, you could try using alacarte [16:26] I have edited the .desktop file for the item I want and set X-TopLevel [16:26] you probably need to edit menu file(s) [16:27] could, but rather not [16:27] Sysi, do you care to help me with something? [16:27] this site http://www.adiumxtras.com/index.php?a=xtras&xtra_id=410 [16:27] when i clic download [16:27] it says i dont have ennough memory [16:27] :/ [16:28] and asks me to close some programs [16:28] im using ff 9.0.1 [16:29] hello, does anyone use Clenentine? if so i need assistance. [16:29] !ask | starn [16:29] starn: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [16:29] GridCube: what says? [16:30] GridCube: you could use wget, wget http://address.is in a folder you want to download to [16:30] "there is not enough memory to complete the solicitated action" "close some aplications and try again" thats how it roughly translates [16:31] Sysi, yeah, i just wanted to try it, its not important but that error is weird [16:31] brb [16:32] well i have headphones and speakers.. headphones are in the front jacks and speakers in the rear like most computers.. now than.. on windows.. more so with winamp. i can play music through my speakers and have my teamspeak or other audio stuff play through my headphones (easier to talk like this) is there away to setup clementine to do this as well?? or any player for xubuntu/ubuntu... [16:34] starn: try with pavucontrol and/or paprefs [16:35] starn: you have to change your audio settings, its not clementines "fault". Try pavucontrol [16:35] uhh, Sysi can you explain?? is this more stuff i may need to download?? [16:35] they're apps controlling sound output in xubuntu [16:35] player doesn't do it [16:35] starn: yes, download pavucontrol, its a audio settings manager for audio devices and apps [16:36] well, player *could* but I think none of them does [16:36] like in output device it says leave blank for default. examples: /dev/dsp, front etc.. is there something i can write in that to make it do so??? [16:37] baizon, Sysi. i already have pavucontrol.. [16:42] will installing paprefs break anything if i have pavucontrol? for pavucontrol does not appear to have the function i am intending to do. [16:42] shouldn't [16:45] Sysi, it doesnt give you the same error than me? [16:46] is port 177/tcp and 177/udp the only ports I need for xdmcp forwarding? [16:48] GridCube: not with chrome on os x [16:48] oh [16:48] right [16:48] :/ [16:48] well i guess i should file a bug [16:49] GridCube: i can download it too [16:49] with no errors (xubuntu 11.10) [16:50] mmm [16:50] what firefox are you using? [16:50] GridCube: how much ram do you got, do you have tons of apps open, long uptime, browser been on for long? [16:50] GridCube: Firefox 10.0.2 [16:50] Sysi, it doesnt give me problems in any other link to download, i tried them [16:50] baizon, well that should be it, will update firefox then [16:54] got 9.0.1? [16:55] yes [16:59] ok... guys i have no clue how to make it play through speakers and not my headphones... i've tried like all the configurations i can see on paprefs and pavucontrol... [17:00] wie müßte ein Konsolenkommando aussehen, mit dem ich in einem Verzeichnis meiner Wahl, bei Dateien meiner Wahl die Leerzeichen im Dateinamen durch Unterstriche ( _ ) austauschen kann? [17:00] oh, sry wrong channel ^^ [17:19] o welp, updating didnt help [17:28] i am having so much trouble getting my music to play through speakers and not headphones when headphones plugged in guys.. i only want select applications to play through heaphones... [17:28] starn: try pavucontrol, or an external mixer that just routes as you want... as an audio professional, thats what i do [17:29] how do i use pavucontrol to do this holstein for i've tried so many configurations and it's just not working for me. [17:29] holstein: i am trying to remember what sound device i have.. and can't remember the command.. i had a sad feeling that it's my issue. [17:30] aplay -l [17:30] just install pavucontrol, and run it.. its a GUI [17:30] holstein: it's already installed... [17:32] starn: it doesnt have to work... you can just not have proper device support [17:33] but it works fine on vista or win 7 :( i am willing to do anything to get it to work on here as well. [17:33] you can try different kernels and alsa drivers.. i usually do that live [17:34] starn: you cant compare windows drivers with linux driver support.. unless you choose to go to the manufacturer like microsoft does [17:35] holstein: yeah.... hey this is what it shows as my device. card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog] also if i remember when i tried ubuntu studio i think it worked on there.. but thats been a long time ago.. same machine though i've had this since 2007... [17:35] nope... ubuntustudio = ubuntu.. same kernels, and alsa versions [17:36] you could have tried different releases... [17:37] evening [17:37] if that were my hardware, i would try a 10.04 live CD... i would think about either trying the upcoming 12.04 release live, or i would think about upgrading alsa [17:37] from there you can decide what you would like to do [17:38] my friend jsut called me and, upon my recommendation, he wants to get rid of win7 and put linux-only on his machine...considering it would be a clean install, it seems pity to me not to use lvm2, but i+m not sure (i'm archlinux user) whether xubuntu install has support for it? [17:40] gour: for a new user, i would suggest keeping it simple.. i would go for a default simple normal average insatll that the new user can handle.. that being said, the alternate iso is what you want [17:40] have to agree with holstein [17:40] * holstein high-fives baizon :) [17:40] lvm2 isnt easy. I think a better solution would be partitions with ext4 :) [17:41] hobgoblin: yeah! :D [17:42] ok, thank you guys [17:42] ..although that user had some ubuntu experience from before [17:44] sure, if you think they can handle the alternate iso... [17:51] * gour suggested him to use default install...btw, he was very pleased with livecd [17:52] btw, which boot loader is used in xubuntu? [17:52] grub2 [17:53] after using freebsd for some time last year and returning back to linux, we settled on syslinux [17:54] do oyu have experience of important increase of xubuntu after latest gnome3/unity experiments? [17:55] you mean, are more folks using XFCE now? [17:56] hehe [17:56] cause gnome shell and unity isnt gnome 2 anymore :D [17:57] so people like xfce more :D [17:57] sure... some people like unity and gnome3 though [17:57] heh, you can take it that way [18:01] my friend is installing, but i wonder whether 'default install' uses separate /home & /boot or put everything under / ? [18:02] baizon: yea what? poor old hobgoblin is confused now :( [18:02] oh nvm - tab fail I guess lol [18:02] hobgoblin: that was for me i think [18:02] long day holstein ... almost over :) [18:03] gour: i would go for the defaults, as i said before.. i see no advantages for a new user to have a seperate /home really... unless they know and want one [18:03] gour: yes ubuntus default is tu put everything in / on 1 partition [18:03] yep, i got 2 partitions: / and /home [18:04] you don't necessarily need/want separate /home but separate data partition is handy [18:04] Sysi: +1 it's how I do it [18:05] i've separate ones for /boot as well...however, we use raid1+lvm2 [18:09] i paired the ps3 bluetooth remote using Blueman Device Manager. now i can navigate in thunar using the arrow keys. but what now? how do i map keys to actions? how do i control vlc? how do i control the mouse cursor? [18:09] how do i see what my back jacks for speaker are like /dev/dsp etc? [18:11] starn: you can open alsamixer, and experiment... trust no labels [18:12] jadoe: not sure i follow the question.. you connected a BT keyboard? i would just use it as normal [18:13] holstein: alsamixer does not really help me... i've been trying everything on that and pavucontrol and paprefs for the past hour or so i think... [18:13] holstein: ps3 remote control, http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PlayStation-3-Blu-ray-Disc-Remote/dp/B000M17AVO?tag=duckduckgo-d-20 [18:14] starn: sure, and like i said, it doesnt have to work... the driver support may just not be there.. i would and do experiemnt with the outputs and jacks [18:15] jadoe: you could try http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Setup_PS3_BD_Remote http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/PS3_Remote [18:19] i already failed at the instructions in the xbmc wiki, i'll give the mythtv instructions a try, thanks [18:34] cool, my friend did install xubuntu and like it ;) [18:35] good to hear [18:35] that's all what we want to hear today ;) [18:36] ohh, one more thing, he reported that "everything works so far" :-) [18:36] before that, he had some ubuntu-related problems with skype and its notifications...so, my suggestion was to go with more 'classical' xubuntu [18:37] what is multicast/rtp receiver and sender?? [18:45] Does any of you know how to display a live log on the monitor of my server? [18:46] ThePendulum: log to the server and something like tail? [18:47] Affirmative [18:47] I don't know what file displays the most information [18:47] /var/log/dmegs [18:47] dmesg [18:48] sorry [18:48] :) [18:48] lol [18:48] cannot open D: [18:48] and thank you hobgoblin [18:49] ThePendulum: sudo will help [18:49] well the file isn't there [18:49] No such file or directory [18:49] Sudo can do a lot, but it can't do magic I think [18:49] not sure dmesg would be the right choice - here it only shows what's going on till it gets past login [18:49] ThePendulum: you don't have dmesg? [18:49] Apparently not [18:49] OH [18:49] wait [18:49] I typed 'logs', not 'log' [18:49] let me try again [18:50] yeah there we go :) [18:50] I'd have a look at syslog too - depends what you want [18:51] I'd just like to see when someone or something connects to my server [18:51] it would be nice to see what that person or thing is trying to do but I guess that's virtually impossible [18:51] have a look at them all :) [18:52] see what you can find that looks most useful and use that one [18:52] how do I get out of tail? xD [18:52] ThePendulum: then just watch e.g. ssh log (here it's auth.log) [18:52] Well, that's just ssh connections [18:52] But say, someone views a website on my server [18:52] I'd like to see that connection happening, but I'm not sure what file that would be [18:53] Webserver usually should have its own log file(s) [18:53] depends on the server [18:53] I guess it's somewhere in the apache folder then [18:54] anyway [18:54] I am tailing a file, but how do I quit doing that? [18:54] ThePendulum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles [18:54] Ctrl-C ? [18:54] q perhaps [18:54] Oh, C indeed [18:54] Thanks [18:55] if it's apache, then try with /var/log/httpd/ something...i use cherokee and didn't use apache for quite some time [18:55] ThePendulum: that wiki page should be some help [18:56] So, thanks [18:56] hmm, my one debian server with apache uses /var/log/apache2 [18:56] Another issue then, it isn't exactly a (X)ubuntu question though [18:56] Does anyone know how to find a wifi router on a network? [18:56] {access,error}.log [18:57] It's IP address, that is [18:57] you cannot access your router? [18:57] I can't access its configuration pages [18:58] Because I don't know where to find them, lol [18:58] They aren't on the default address [18:58] which router? [18:58] D-Link eeeeeeeh [18:59] how do i make pulseaudio restart? [18:59] DWL-G700AP [18:59] D-Link DWL-G700AP [18:59] It's more of a WAP actually [18:59] ThePendulum: so it's not default one? [18:59] Apparently not [18:59] usually it's 192.168.1.x or 192.168.100.x [19:00] That leads to our router, I need the access point [19:00] default address is 192.168.0.50 [19:00] But there's nothing there [19:01] you mean you need router's 'external' IP? [19:01] How would I find that out? [19:01] Also, I think those config pages are only reachable from the local network [19:01] try: ping -r 1 [19:02] in the terminal? [19:02] yes [19:02] Invalid argument [19:03] that's right, configs are usually only local if not configured to enable remote access [19:03] It's hard to configure it to be remotely accessible if I can't even access it locally lol [19:04] ThePendulum: ping -r 1 some.www.address, e.g. ping -r 1 google.com [19:05] It's always invalid argument [19:05] What's the -r 1 for? [19:05] I mean, pinging google works without [19:06] ThePendulum: otoh, checking router's IP can be done by checkip.dyndns.org [19:06] '-r' should "Bypass the normal routing tables and send directly to a host on an attached interface." [19:07] ThePendulum: what do you get at 192.168.0.1 ? [19:08] ThePendulum: do you have 'ipconfig' command available? [19:09] I do have 'ifconfig' [19:09] ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable at 192.168.0.1 [19:09] then run it and 'default gateway' should be your router [19:10] Yes but I need the WAP attached to the network [19:11] Not the router where my connection is going through [19:12] Router -> Switch -> PC [19:12] .........................-> Server [19:12] .........................-> Printer [19:12] .........................-> WAP* [19:12] I need mr. Wap [19:13] Isn't there something to view all network attached devices? [19:13] what do you get with: arp -a [19:13] can anyone help me fix this?? http://pastebin.com/7HirFSKh [19:14] gour: I get a bunch of IP adresses of which one should be the WAP... 192.168.178.50 [19:14] but I can't access it through the browser [19:14] starn: sorry...i use alsa only [19:15] ThePendulum: strange...can you ping that address? [19:15] (192.168.178.50) at on eth0 [19:15] I tried [19:15] no pong [19:15] From 84.25.233.43 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachable [19:16] 9 packets transmitted, 0 received, +6 errors, 100% packet loss, time 8046ms [19:16] pipe 3 [19:16] hmm [19:17] ThePendulum: you have physical access to the WAP? [19:17] Affirmative [19:17] It's right here in front of me, under my desk. It's fully functional [19:18] ican you access your router config? [19:18] *can [19:19] you mean the router the switch and the wap are connected to? [19:19] yes [19:19] Yes I can [19:20] then there you should see the WAP's IP in the list of connected devices [19:20] Trying to find such list [19:20] gour: you use alsa? correct.. is there away to FORCE alsa to make a program play through speakers? i know my hardware supports it. i just don't know how to configure it and the GUI interface's do not help. i need a way to remap audio to rear ports and to front ports as well [19:21] starn: how is your alsaconf output? [19:22] The IP should be 192.168.178.50, and arp -a returns that one as well [19:23] ThePendulum: iirc, i had similar problems when wanting to use my ISP's router/modem just as modem and using my own linksys router as router...the possible solution was supposed to be putting modem/router into bridge mode in order to access linksys config, but due to some hardware blockage put by my ISP, i had to give up on that [19:23] gour: i don't know how do i check? [19:23] Holy shit, I found the command center of my printer, lol. Hmpf, unfortunately still no WAP [19:24] starn: sudo alsaconf [19:24] gour: command not found [19:24] ThePendulum: why do you need separate WAP? your router is no wifi-enabled? [19:24] starn: su alsaconf [19:25] It is, but its signal is quite weak in my room [19:25] I had it for years now [19:25] And I used to be able to access it [19:25] what did change? [19:25] gour: unkown id: alsaconf [19:25] I honestly don't know [19:25] Well, the fact I am on Linux now [19:26] starn: ahh...stupid me...how do you install packages from the terminal? [19:26] sudo apt-get install [package name] [19:26] gour: i believe sudo apt-get install name. [19:27] why is then 'sudo alsaconf' reports command not found? [19:28] starn: bear in mind, i'm not xubuntu user and not overly familiar with ubuntu family...i'm here just by 'accident' [19:28] rotfl [19:28] ThePendulum: what is the IP of your router? [19:28] 192.168.178.1 [19:28] WAP is 92.168.178.50 [19:28] (should be) [19:28] gour: will i may of broken my sound.. and i just reset everything to defualt so i am going to reboot i shall be RIGHT back.. see if anyone can assist me. [19:30] ThePendulum: so the problem is that your WAP is under the same gateway as router, that's why you cannot access it...you hsould either change default gateway (access IP) for your router or for the WAP [19:31] ...in order to be able to access both [19:31] ...config pages [19:32] that't why, as explained, tried with 1st router in bridge mode [19:35] ok gour i am back. [19:37] welcome back ;) [19:38]