smspillaz | /join #bzr | 03:53 |
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RAOF | :) | 03:56 |
RAOF | GggrrGIT! | 03:57 |
lifeless | RAOF: ohhai, are you a good person to talk to about unity theme bugs ? | 03:59 |
lifeless | RAOF: specifically bug 920746 | 03:59 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 920746 in unity "themes wonky - looks bad" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920746 | 03:59 |
RAOF | lifeless: No, not really. Urgh, sympathies. That looks really annoying. | 04:00 |
RAOF | Something would appear to have gone weird in your gnome-settings-daemon, though. | 04:01 |
RAOF | lifeless: Could you install dconf-tools and check out the org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins tree? Particularly xsettings? | 04:03 |
RAOF | (Oh, with dconf-editor) | 04:04 |
lifeless | RAOF: what things from there do you want to know ? | 04:05 |
RAOF | lifeless: If I disable the xsettings plugin I get something that looks a lot like what you've got. Is the xsettings plugin enabled? | 04:05 |
lifeless | inactive, grayscale, nothing disabled, nothing enabled, medium hinting, priority 2, rgb | 04:06 |
RAOF | Tick the button to activate it. | 04:06 |
lifeless | theme works | 04:06 |
lifeless | but I cannot move windows | 04:07 |
RAOF | Right. | 04:07 |
RAOF | Wait for compiz to finish its screaming hissy fit. | 04:07 |
lifeless | wow thats a long hissy fit | 04:07 |
RAOF | It's finished restarting after its crash? | 04:08 |
lifeless | I presume so | 04:08 |
lifeless | I can alt-tab now | 04:08 |
lifeless | sloppy-focus isn't anymore, but at least it looks nice ;) | 04:09 |
RAOF | :) | 04:09 |
lifeless | what other plugins should be on by default? | 04:09 |
RAOF | Everything. | 04:10 |
lifeless | hah | 04:10 |
lifeless | very very very much not the case | 04:10 |
RAOF | Are there any which are disabled? | 04:10 |
RAOF | Oh. gconf is the only one of mine which is disabled. | 04:11 |
RAOF | And that's just a migrate-from-gconf thing, so it probably turns itself off. | 04:11 |
lifeless | background, clipboard, font, gconf, housekeeping, keybindings, keyboard, media-keys, mouse, print-notifications, smartcard, sound, wacom, xrandr | 04:11 |
lifeless | (and xsettings, but its on now) | 04:12 |
RAOF | Ah. | 04:12 |
RAOF | So, your system is not so much of the working then. | 04:12 |
lifeless | should I turn them all (but gconf) on ? | 04:12 |
RAOF | Yes. | 04:12 |
lifeless | RAOF: well, I *live* in uxterm + firefox + tomboy, so I've been piqued but not destroyed | 04:12 |
lifeless | the collapsing of titles in to the top left was really getting on my tits though :) | 04:13 |
lifeless | can't move my mouse now | 04:14 |
lifeless | can still click | 04:14 |
lifeless | and evince segfaulted :) | 04:14 |
RAOF | :D | 04:16 |
RAOF | The GNOME stack really loves settings changes. | 04:16 |
lifeless | seriously, can I get my mouse back ? | 04:16 |
RAOF | It should come back by itself? | 04:16 |
lifeless | cursor is there, won't move | 04:16 |
lifeless | hmm, plugged in usb mouse, which works... | 04:17 |
lifeless | driver has shat itself? | 04:17 |
lifeless | anoting in dmesg to suggest that | 04:17 |
RAOF | Probably one of the plugins you enabled caused g-s-d to suddenly discover your touchpad and think it should be disabled. | 04:18 |
lifeless | peripherals touchpad thingy shows enabled | 04:19 |
RAOF | “xinput list” followed by “xinput list-props $TOUCHPAD_DEVICEID” could indicate that the enabled property has been toggled. | 04:19 |
lifeless | TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint id=12 [slave pointer (2)] | 04:20 |
lifeless | -> id is 12 ? | 04:20 |
RAOF | Yup. | 04:20 |
lifeless | erm no | 04:20 |
lifeless | perhaps SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad id=10 [slave pointer (2)] | 04:20 |
RAOF | Hm. It shouldn't have turned off the nubbin. | 04:20 |
lifeless | which ? | 04:20 |
RAOF | Which one(s) isn't(aren't) working? Or both! | 04:20 |
lifeless | pad only | 04:20 |
RAOF | Then 10 | 04:21 |
lifeless | I forgot I had a nipple | 04:21 |
lifeless | so, list-props, and look for ? | 04:21 |
RAOF | Synaptics Off (276) | 04:21 |
lifeless | Device Enabled (132): 1 | 04:21 |
RAOF | Well, there are two things; one is Device Enabled, and one is Synaptics Off. | 04:21 |
lifeless | Synaptics Off (274): 1 | 04:21 |
lifeless | RAOF: how do I tell it to be alive? | 04:22 |
RAOF | xinput set-int-prop 10 274 8 0 | 04:23 |
lifeless | ahha | 04:23 |
lifeless | thanks | 04:23 |
RAOF | (For those playing at home, that's $DEVICE_ID, $PROPERTY, 8-just-because, $VALUE | 04:23 |
lifeless | thanks a lot | 04:26 |
lifeless | is sloppy focus still available for those that want it ? | 04:26 |
lifeless | (and if so, how does one get it ?) | 04:26 |
RAOF | I think so; you'd need to venture in to the ccsm swamp to manage that. | 04:26 |
lifeless | doth not seem like it | 04:30 |
RAOF | Huh. I don't even have ccsm installed on this system. | 04:33 |
lifeless | ahh, | 04:33 |
lifeless | this still works: | 04:33 |
lifeless | http://askubuntu.com/questions/64605/how-do-i-set-focus-follows-mouse | 04:33 |
lifeless | right, thats enough spelunking | 04:35 |
lifeless | optimalish systme, back to work ;) | 04:36 |
RAOF | Oh, ah. Yeah, uploading a 170MB attachment to launchpad aint happening. | 05:53 |
RAOF | lifeless: Might I point you towards https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squid3/+bug/930252 | 05:54 |
ubot2` | RAOF: Error: <Bugtracker.plugin.Launchpad instance at 0xa5ae8cc> bug 930252 not found | 05:54 |
RAOF | lifeless: It's me and Sidnei wondering why squid's trying to allocate 10PB of memory for the swap. | 05:55 |
didrocks | good morning | 06:52 |
RAOF | didrocks: Heya! | 06:53 |
didrocks | hey RAOF, how are you? | 06:54 |
RAOF | I'm *awesome* | 06:56 |
RAOF | Much like weasels. They're also awesome. | 06:57 |
RAOF | Like little orange ferrets! How adorable! | 06:57 |
didrocks | heh :) | 07:02 |
RAOF | Hows about yourself? | 07:02 |
pitti | Good morning | 07:02 |
pitti | erk, the HUD gets in the way everytime I change virtual desktops | 07:05 |
didrocks | pitti: yeah, there was work to avoid that in compiz, but it's part of the patch I had to revert on Friday morning | 07:06 |
didrocks | pitti: it needs a patch in compiz (the new one is in a better shape) and a patch in unity | 07:07 |
pitti | didrocks: ah, thanks | 07:07 |
RAOF | Thank you for doing that, by the way. My keyboard shortcuts work :) | 07:07 |
didrocks | RAOF: my pleasure to make your day better! :) | 07:10 |
lifeless | RAOF: -> upstream :) | 07:15 |
RAOF | lifeless: Urgh. I need to duplicate that on a bugzilla? :( | 07:15 |
lifeless | RAOF: that or convince squid to move to LP for bugs;) | 07:16 |
RAOF | lifeless: Or convince *you* to duplicate that on a bugzilla /-? | 07:17 |
lifeless | join #squid-dewv | 07:20 |
lifeless | join #squid-dev please | 07:20 |
RAOF | On freenode? | 07:20 |
lifeless | bah, no 0 | 07:20 |
lifeless | no - | 07:20 |
lifeless | squiddev | 07:21 |
RAOF | lifeless: You maintain squid in Debian/Ubuntu, right? You saw that? | 07:36 |
lifeless | RAOF: I don't | 07:37 |
lifeless | RAOF: I try hard not to mix up upstream + packaging | 07:37 |
RAOF | Ok. | 07:38 |
lifeless | one or t'other, avoids circular reasoning | 07:38 |
lifeless | (I fail on some stuff, buf if you ever need another hting to maintain, just shout) | 07:38 |
RAOF | Heh. | 07:39 |
RAOF | Ok. Debian's got 3.1.19. Time for a merge. | 07:39 |
RAOF | We're not at a stage where merging a new upstream squid3 (3.1.19-1) requires a FFe much more than “fixes bug #930252 which prevents squid working at all”, right? :) | 08:06 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 930252 in squid3 "squid3 crashed with SIGABRT in fatal_dump()" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930252 | 08:06 |
GunnarHj | pitti: Hi Martin! Did you see my explanation at https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu/precise/accountsservice/locale-test/+merge/93404 ? | 08:09 |
pitti | hello GunnarHj | 08:11 |
pitti | yes | 08:11 |
pitti | GunnarHj: I was on holiday yesterday, catching up with my huge inbox now | 08:11 |
GunnarHj | pitti: Ok. :) | 08:12 |
chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 08:30 |
pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 08:32 |
chrisccoulson | hi pitti, how are you? | 08:32 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: quite fine, thanks! we spent three nice days in Berlin | 08:32 |
didrocks | no snow anymore? :) | 08:40 |
pitti | it's almost entirely gone | 08:40 |
didrocks | pitti: oh, btw, reminder about reminding for the week report minder :p | 08:41 |
* pitti hugs didrocks | 08:41 | |
* didrocks hugs pitti back | 08:41 | |
chrisccoulson | the snow here was a bit of an anti-climax. we only had a little bit :( | 08:43 |
didrocks | ah pitti launched the retracer :) | 08:46 |
pitti | it keeps breaking on duplicate signature confusion | 08:46 |
didrocks | chrisccoulson: you are more in rain, isn't it? :) | 08:46 |
didrocks | ah :/ | 08:46 |
pitti | one of these days I need to fix this properly | 08:46 |
didrocks | it's launchpad timing out? | 08:46 |
chrisccoulson | didrocks, apparently not: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17102615 ;) | 08:47 |
didrocks | chrisccoulson: who do you think will believe this? It's obviously a fake :) | 08:48 |
chrisccoulson | heh | 08:48 |
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rye | If firefox/icedtea in precise is hanging on my banking site (and breaking firefox after this) - where do I start with debugging - the vm does not crash, it simply does not work | 09:09 |
micahg | rye: is the banking site java? | 09:12 |
micahg | ah, icedtea, yeah, there's a known crasher ATM, but IIRC, there's an icedtea plugin log | 09:12 |
micahg | I have to go through the open bugs later today, there are quite a few about java plugins ATM | 09:13 |
rye | micahg, what i am worried - it renders firefox unusable until restart | 09:13 |
rye | which is kind of strange given that plugin runs in separate process | 09:13 |
micahg | there used to be a java error console, I don't know if that still exists | 09:14 |
micahg | is there anything in the firefox error console? | 09:14 |
rye | The program 'java' received an X Window System error. | 09:15 |
rye | oh shiny | 09:15 |
rye | and then firefox fails to redraw the UI, it fits | 09:16 |
seb128 | hey | 09:30 |
seb128 | sorry, I'm a bit later than usual today | 09:31 |
seb128 | (had a bank appointment and time to come back) | 09:31 |
Daviey | Is anyone else finding X really unstable this week? | 09:36 |
Daviey | multi-touch mouse also not responding as you expect? | 09:36 |
seb128 | Daviey, try #ubuntu-x, didn't notice any issue but I use a normal 3 buttons usb mouse | 09:39 |
seb128 | no xorg issue | 09:39 |
seb128 | is pitti back? | 09:39 |
seb128 | pitti, it's meeting reminder day! | 09:39 |
Daviey | seb128: thanks | 09:40 |
pitti | hey seb128 | 09:41 |
pitti | seb128: thanks! will do ASAP, just finishing up something | 09:41 |
seb128 | oh, a pitti ;-) | 09:41 |
seb128 | pitti, hello, wie gets? had a good w.e? | 09:41 |
pitti | seb128: yes, indeed! we spent three nice days in Berlin | 09:41 |
seb128 | pitti, great ;-) | 09:46 |
chrisccoulson | hey seb128 | 10:02 |
seb128 | hey chrisccoulson, how are you? | 10:03 |
chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, not too bad thanks. although, i would have been better had i not trodden on the pins of an electrical plug first thing this morning :( | 10:03 |
seb128 | ouch :( | 10:04 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, i split the bottom of one of my toes | 10:04 |
seb128 | see at least european plugs are round :p | 10:04 |
chrisccoulson | but, the plug ended up worse off ;) | 10:04 |
pitti | didrocks: meh @ unity-lens-video | 10:15 |
pitti | python again | 10:15 |
davidcalle | pitti, my bad | 10:16 |
pitti | we just dropped system-config-printer applet, and now it's again back.. | 10:16 |
didrocks | pitti: yeah, I know… | 10:16 |
pitti | didrocks: (not your fault, sorry, I'm just venting) | 10:16 |
pitti | didrocks: are we requrired to install this by default? | 10:16 |
seb128 | pitti, what's the issue with python? | 10:17 |
pitti | (also, it's currently crashing like mad, but that'll get fixed) | 10:17 |
seb128 | pitti, shouldn't be an issue once bug #929506 is fixed | 10:17 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 929506 in unity "lenses are loaded on start, should be lazy loaded" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/929506 | 10:17 |
didrocks | pitti: seems so that it's the default that the u1 team requires | 10:17 |
seb128 | pitti, lens shouldn't load on login but lazy load on dash use | 10:17 |
pitti | seb128: yes, but currently they don't it seems | 10:17 |
didrocks | davidcalle: btw, on the music lens + rhythmbox, where are we at? | 10:17 |
seb128 | pitti, that got broken in precise and it's on the high bug list | 10:17 |
seb128 | pitti, cf the bug I just pointed | 10:17 |
didrocks | pitti: they don't, but it's hihgh in the priority list | 10:17 |
didrocks | high* | 10:18 |
pitti | ah, thanks | 10:18 |
davidcalle | didrocks, wip, the db parsing is done, mhr3 might take over the remaining bits. | 10:18 |
pitti | davidcalle, didrocks: OOI, are the music/video lenses for buying only? they don't seem to find any of my local music/videos | 10:19 |
seb128 | pitti, btw cr3 was asking yesterday that we switch from checkbox-gtk to checkbox-qt | 10:19 |
pitti | seb128: right, I commented on bug 937189 | 10:19 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 937189 in checkbox "checkbox-gtk should be replaced with checkbox-qt on the desktop image" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/937189 | 10:19 |
seb128 | pitti, it indexes XDG_VIDEO_DIR, are your video in ~Video? | 10:19 |
seb128 | or whatever is the dir in german | 10:19 |
didrocks | pitti: they look at your video dir | 10:19 |
pitti | seb128: no, in ~/download/ | 10:19 |
pitti | but my music is in teh standard dir | 10:20 |
seb128 | pitti, so that's why | 10:20 |
seb128 | pitti, well it's a "video" lens ;-) | 10:20 |
seb128 | not a music one | 10:20 |
didrocks | pitti: for the music one, nothing is shown right now as we dropped banshee | 10:20 |
pitti | didrocks: ah, the music one only supports banshee? | 10:20 |
didrocks | and the rhythmbox scope isn't ready | 10:20 |
pitti | ok, that explains both, thanks | 10:20 |
davidcalle | pitti, the music lens should pickup your currently Banshe/soon Rbox library. | 10:20 |
didrocks | well, I made it clear during the UDS session :) | 10:20 |
didrocks | davidcalle: you will need to require a FFe | 10:21 |
pitti | well, it's currently a bug that it doesn't show any results | 10:21 |
seb128 | I doubt that ffe will be refused :p | 10:21 |
pitti | so, filing an FFE is good for tracking, but there's no reason to deny it | 10:21 |
didrocks | agreed, just that will need to do the paperwork :) | 10:21 |
davidcalle | didrocks, pitti, ok | 10:21 |
pitti | so don't worry too much about this | 10:22 |
didrocks | davidcalle: this rb scope is in the unity-lens, not a separate source? | 10:22 |
davidcalle | didrocks, in the music lens, even if I would prefer an external scope. | 10:22 |
davidcalle | didrocks, for people upgrading from Oneiric, and using Banshee. | 10:23 |
didrocks | davidcalle: well, otherwise, we would have the music lens supporting by default banshee + u1, and another source | 10:23 |
didrocks | davidcalle: you keep the banshee support? | 10:23 |
didrocks | isn't it? | 10:23 |
davidcalle | didrocks, it should, but I need mhr3 input on doing it cleanly. | 10:24 |
didrocks | ok :) | 10:24 |
davidcalle | didrocks, I'd prefer to have rb and banshee as external scopes and music players recommending them. | 10:24 |
davidcalle | didrocks, but it's not my call. | 10:24 |
didrocks | mhr3: ? ^ | 10:25 |
* mhr3 reads backlog | 10:26 | |
mhr3 | didrocks, yes, we want to keep the banshee scope | 10:27 |
didrocks | mhr3: great, thanks :) | 10:27 |
Sweetshark | pitti: didrocks is a real man now, he sponsored his first LibreOffice upload. | 10:35 |
didrocks | Sweetshark: well, I uploaded and updated some OOo in karmic time :) | 10:36 |
pitti | hey Sweetshark | 10:37 |
pitti | I saw, thanks! | 10:37 |
Sweetshark | didrocks: ah, ok. ;) btw I by now (3.5) LO is saner than it was in the 3.3/3.4 series so hopefully a bit more time to really take care about the details too. | 10:38 |
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s9iper1 | recently update remove the windows menu any body know where to file the bug | 11:31 |
s9iper1 | ? | 11:31 |
pitti | s9iper1: it's by design now; right-click on window title bar or alt+space | 11:32 |
s9iper1 | pitti: its not a good change its confusing if we have an other application running in the background | 11:35 |
s9iper1 | like i have opened xchat and chrome is running behind it | 11:35 |
pitti | what's that to do with the windows menu? | 11:37 |
s9iper1 | its mixing with each other now wait i give you a screenshot | 11:38 |
pitti | cyphermox: FYI, holding your wpasupplicant lucid-proposed upload until bug 528087 is fixed in precise | 11:38 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 528087 in wpasupplicant "merge patch for segfault when using smartcards with NetworkManager" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528087 | 11:38 |
s9iper1 | pitti: see the mixing and now there is a confusion here http://imagebin.org/200004 | 11:40 |
seb128 | pitti, thanks for fixing the retracer, I untagged a bug and deleted the lock yesterday but that was apparently not enough | 11:41 |
pitti | s9iper1: that looks like a compiz/unity window drawing bug; but it's got nothing to do with the alt+space window menu? | 11:41 |
pitti | seb128: it hit another weird dupe detection case | 11:41 |
pitti | seb128: some day I need to track it down properly, but for now I just wrote a bug pattern and restarted manually | 11:41 |
seb128 | pitti, ok, thanks | 11:42 |
s9iper1 | pitti: thanks | 11:42 |
smspillaz | seb128: do you know where I'd find the packaging for libindicator-appmenu ? | 11:44 |
* smspillaz be making daily builds | 11:44 | |
seb128 | smspillaz, there is no such lib? | 11:44 |
smspillaz | seb128: err, indicator-appmenu ? | 11:44 |
smspillaz | or whatever provides appmenus ? | 11:44 |
seb128 | smspillaz, lp:~ubuntu-desktop/indicator-appmenu/ubuntu | 11:44 |
smspillaz | great, thanks :) | 11:45 |
seb128 | yw | 11:45 |
tkamppeter | pitti, hi | 11:45 |
pitti | hello tkamppeter | 11:46 |
tkamppeter | pitti, about bug 936629, the process where gs wants to look into /proc/<no>/auxv seems to live only while the print job is living, so I could not find out which process it is. It happens with the pnm2ppa driver, one can simply reproduce it by creating a queue for this driver (printing into a file) and printing a test page on this queue. | 11:48 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 936629 in cups "Printing fails after printing first document " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/936629 | 11:48 |
pitti | tkamppeter: so that'll need some stracing then to find out | 11:50 |
pitti | tkamppeter: perhaps you can put the commands how to create this fake queue into the bug? | 11:50 |
tkamppeter | pitti, will this help? Will it not also only tell that "gs" accessed /proc/<no>/auxv? | 11:51 |
* pitti ^5s seb128 on http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/precise-fixes-report.html - nice work! | 11:51 | |
pitti | tkamppeter: well, we need to know whether it's gs or something launched by gs | 11:51 |
seb128 | pitti, oh, I tied you, great ;-) thanks! nice work for you as well! | 11:51 |
pitti | tkamppeter: if you are sure that this pid was gs, then we don't need further strace | 11:51 |
* pitti grabs the gauntlet -- it's on! | 11:52 | |
pitti | ... after lunch, bbl | 11:52 |
ronoc | chrisccoulson, on thunderbird the send button has disappeared from the email window | 12:45 |
ronoc | as a result i can't send emails | 12:45 |
ronoc | any ideas | 12:45 |
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jbicha | seb128: good morning | 12:49 |
chrisccoulson | ronoc - can you add it back to the toolbar (right click -> Customize)? | 12:51 |
jbicha | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670472 says we need the new vte3 & gtk to fix | 12:51 |
ubot2` | Gnome bug 670472 in HighContrast and LowContrast "High Contrast 3.3.90 (rewrite) breaks gnome-terminal, other apps" [Critical,Needinfo] | 12:51 |
ronoc | chrisccoulson, I open a draft email and right click where | 12:53 |
ronoc | it pops up the edit email window | 12:53 |
ronoc | before there was a big send button | 12:53 |
chrisccoulson | ronoc, on the toolbar in the compose window | 12:53 |
ronoc | chrisccoulson, right click doesn't bring up and options | 12:54 |
ronoc | any even | 12:54 |
chrisccoulson | ronoc, does the toolbar exist at all? | 12:54 |
ronoc | chrisccoulson, yes with font size etc - is that where you mean ? | 12:55 |
chrisccoulson | ronoc, no, the one which normally has the send button on it :) | 12:55 |
chrisccoulson | or is that one missing? | 12:55 |
ronoc | must be missing | 12:56 |
ronoc | how do i restore it | 12:56 |
chrisccoulson | ronoc, does it come back if you go to View -> Toolbars and make sure that Composition Toolbar is checked? | 12:56 |
ronoc | chrisccoulson, ah that was it :) | 12:56 |
ronoc | chrisccoulson, thanks | 12:57 |
chrisccoulson | :) | 12:57 |
ronoc | silly me | 12:57 |
seb128 | jbicha, hey | 13:10 |
seb128 | jbicha, gtk is on my update list for today, it's next in fact ;-) | 13:10 |
seb128 | jbicha, pitti: do you guys work(ed) with the debian remmina maintainer? not sure how to handle bug #931336 and bug #926619 | 13:12 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 931336 in remmina "Remmina package doesn't provide .desktop file" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931336 | 13:12 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 926619 in remmina "no tray icon in untity" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/926619 | 13:12 |
seb128 | jbicha, pitti: especiall the second (indicator support), do we want an ubuntu diff for that? | 13:13 |
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* didrocks taking a break, back in an hour | 13:18 | |
smspillaz | seb128: do you know if kenvandine will be in today ? | 13:18 |
seb128 | smspillaz, he should be | 13:19 |
seb128 | smspillaz, yesterway was an u.s holiday but he should be there today | 13:19 |
smspillaz | hmm ok | 13:20 |
smspillaz | seb128: it seems like indicator-appmenu's packaging is pretty out of date. and it uses merge-source | 13:21 |
seb128 | smspillaz, I did the recent update so it shouldn't be outdated and yes it use merge upstream as most dx sources, it allows to backport upstream commits in one command | 13:21 |
jbicha | seb128: the missing .desktop is fixed in trunk, not sure about the appindicator but we'd probably have a diff for LPI anyway, right? | 13:21 |
smspillaz | hmm | 13:21 |
seb128 | jbicha, well, we could in theory have a series.ubuntu in the debian package with those | 13:22 |
smspillaz | seb128: ok, I guess there are just conflicts when attempting to merge this local menus branch. its probably the case that this one is out of sync with trunk | 13:22 |
smspillaz | seb128: would I be safe if I were to just cp in the debian directory and debuild with that ? (assuming no files have been added / removed?) | 13:22 |
seb128 | smspillaz, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/indicator-appmenu/ubuntu is less that a week old and has 0.3.91 | 13:23 |
seb128 | smspillaz, yes, copying the debian dir should be fine | 13:23 |
smspillaz | ok :) | 13:23 |
pgraner | didrocks, did anything in unity change over the weekend that would affect the launcher revealing on multi-mon setups? | 13:31 |
pitti | seb128: I actually tried to enable indicator support, it's in the ubuntu-desktop PPA | 13:32 |
pitti | seb128: but it doesn't seem to work | 13:32 |
seb128 | pitti, hum, ok | 13:32 |
seb128 | pitti, I will have a look to that, adding to my todo | 13:33 |
jbicha | pitti: it didn't seem to work here either | 13:33 |
pitti | seb128: hm, I just changed -DWITH_APPINDICATOR=ON | 13:33 |
pitti | I didn't try the patch | 13:33 |
pitti | but that patch doesn't seem to actually fix indicator support | 13:33 |
seb128 | pitti, did you add the build-depends as well? | 13:33 |
pitti | yes | 13:34 |
seb128 | pitti, jbicha: ok, I will have a look | 13:34 |
pitti | and it builds fine, and links to indicator etc. | 13:34 |
pitti | but I still never saw it | 13:34 |
pitti | I enabled the options in the "applet" tab | 13:34 |
pitti | and tried ssh and VNC | 13:34 |
seb128 | pitti, ok, thanks | 13:34 |
seb128 | I will debug | 13:34 |
seb128 | pitti, btw do you have an opinion on new poppler from Debian and if we should merge this cycle? | 13:34 |
seb128 | they added a new binary from private .h files and multiarched it | 13:35 |
pitti | oh, they have 0.18.4 now, nice | 13:35 |
seb128 | yes, in experimental | 13:35 |
pitti | seb128: looks like an easy merge | 13:36 |
pitti | seb128: want me to look into it? | 13:36 |
seb128 | pitti, well I think slangasek said that multiarching libs was a ffe | 13:36 |
seb128 | so I prefer to ask before | 13:36 |
pitti | oh, I see | 13:36 |
seb128 | pitti, if you want to, sure, I've enough to keep busy with GNOME today (and this week) ;-) | 13:37 |
pitti | I thought that was mostly for natty when we introduced it | 13:37 |
seb128 | pitti, well maybe it's not ffe material, I seemed to remember that | 13:37 |
seb128 | but maybe it was natty yes ;-) | 13:37 |
seb128 | pitti, well in any case I think we should merge on them if we can, especially for the new binary, avoid having to deal with a transition starting next cycle and having the keep compat until the next lts | 13:38 |
pitti | right | 13:39 |
pitti | seb128: I asked in #u-release | 13:39 |
seb128 | pitti, danke | 13:39 |
pgraner | didrocks, I think the latest gnome-control-center broke the launcher, I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/937792 | 13:40 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 937792 in gnome-control-center "Left launcher does not revel when in autohide mode on multi-monitor setups" [Undecided,New] | 13:40 |
seb128 | pgraner, you didn't get the new control center it seems from that bug | 13:41 |
seb128 | gnome-control-center (1:3.3.5-0ubuntu4) precise; urgency=low | 13:41 |
seb128 | ii gnome-control-center 1:3.3.5-0ubuntu3 utilities to configure the GNOME desktop | 13:41 |
seb128 | 13:41 | |
seb128 | pgraner, it was just uploaded | 13:41 |
seb128 | pgraner, also the control center has nothing to do with behaviours, it just applies configurations | 13:41 |
seb128 | pgraner, i.e if you didn't change a config, you could as well have g-c-c not installed, it's not impacting on any runtime behaviour | 13:42 |
pgraner | seb128, ok, sorry missed the digit on ubuntu... | 13:42 |
seb128 | pgraner, that seems an unity or compiz bug | 13:42 |
seb128 | pgraner, do you use nvidia? | 13:42 |
pgraner | seb128, yep nvidia | 13:42 |
seb128 | pgraner, DBO mentioned yesterday that the new nvidia drivers broke the barrier | 13:42 |
seb128 | pgraner, ok, reassigning to nvidia then | 13:42 |
pgraner | seb128, great, I'll edit and take out the other bits in the description | 13:43 |
seb128 | pgraner, I reassigned with a comment | 13:44 |
pitti | seb128: oh, and gir bindings, too | 13:45 |
seb128 | pitti, oh, right | 13:45 |
pgraner | thanks seb128 | 13:45 |
seb128 | pgraner, yw | 13:45 |
seb128 | didrocks, ^ btw handle the bug so unping for you | 13:45 |
didrocks | back | 13:59 |
didrocks | ok, seb128 sorted it out with pgraner, thanks :) | 13:59 |
seb128 | didrocks, wb, yw ;-) | 14:00 |
seb128 | didrocks, btw thanks for uploading g-c-c under my feet, need to rebase my update :p | 14:01 |
seb128 | (doing the new tarball update) | 14:01 |
didrocks | seb128: my pleasure :-) sorry for this! | 14:01 |
seb128 | didrocks, no worry ;-) | 14:01 |
didrocks | blame design who pinged me all of the sudden ;) | 14:02 |
seb128 | one day design will start using the bug tracker rather than IRC pings... | 14:02 |
* didrocks will bless that day | 14:02 | |
didrocks | ok, now let's see this "primary" things regarding compiz | 14:03 |
pitti | well, as long as IRC works, there is no reason for them to change | 14:03 |
pitti | people don't voluntarily make it more difficult for them :) | 14:03 |
seb128 | pitti, that's the issue with people :p | 14:04 |
pitti | https://bugs.launchpad.net/humans/+filebug | 14:04 |
bil21al | any body tell me to which package does this bug belong https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/933841 | 14:05 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 933841 in unity "Ugly context menu" [Low,Confirmed] | 14:05 |
didrocks | waow bug #868423, didn't see that before :) | 14:05 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 868423 in ayatana-design "Launcher - Workspace switcher should not be in the Launcher by default" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/868423 | 14:05 |
seb128 | bil21al, light-themes | 14:05 |
bil21al | hmm ok thanks | 14:06 |
seb128 | didrocks, yeah, I'm unsure about it, I'm fine with the idea but the implementation is non trivial | 14:07 |
seb128 | i.e dynamically blocking keybindings etc when the launcher is not there | 14:08 |
didrocks | seb128: seems to be P+1 to me | 14:09 |
didrocks | defintively doable, but too late for now | 14:09 |
seb128 | right | 14:09 |
didrocks | (weird that only the unity guys was aware) | 14:09 |
seb128 | well I guess we could drop the icon from the launcher by default | 14:09 |
seb128 | not sure how much it would help though | 14:09 |
seb128 | didrocks, well, I knew about it, if you notice I set it to triaged by then ;-) | 14:10 |
cyphermox | pitti: please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/528087 again, I commented -- the changes for that SRU are already in precise | 14:10 |
pitti | cc1plus: error: debug output level 11 is too high | 14:10 |
pitti | Sweetshark: ^ WTF | 14:10 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 528087 in wpasupplicant "merge patch for segfault when using smartcards with NetworkManager" [Medium,Triaged] | 14:11 |
didrocks | seb128: hum, ok, but you know how it is to look at all the unity bug mails, too easy to miss one :) | 14:11 |
pitti | cyphermox: ah, thanks; I closed the precise task then | 14:11 |
didrocks | and now that coverity is spamming us:p | 14:11 |
Sweetshark | pitti: link? | 14:11 |
pitti | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/93544875/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-powerpc.libreoffice_1%3A3.5.0-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 14:11 |
pitti | Sweetshark: ^ | 14:11 |
pitti | Sweetshark: not that I care much about ppc, but it does seem strange | 14:11 |
pitti | i386/amd64 built and are in binNEW, looking | 14:12 |
Sweetshark | indeed | 14:12 |
cyphermox | pitti: fwiw, the fix is in maverick as well :) | 14:12 |
pitti | Sweetshark: this doesn't seem to build libreoffice-report-builder again; will the next version, or should we fix the transitional openoffice.org-report-builder package? | 14:13 |
Sweetshark | pitti: _rene_ just noted me that there is a Replaces: missing because I move unopkg from -common to -core. | 14:13 |
pitti | oh | 14:13 |
pitti | Sweetshark: so I better not binNEW them, to avoid upgrade errors? | 14:14 |
Sweetshark | yes, I didnt enable report-builder yet to get the package out and I did not want to recheck if all the MIR have gone through before (so just enabled mediawiki and evo2) | 14:16 |
Sweetshark | pitti: I guess so :( | 14:16 |
pitti | right, understood | 14:16 |
pitti | Sweetshark: does it have a versioned Breaks:? | 14:16 |
pitti | Sweetshark: usually when moving a file from pkg foo to bar in version N, bar should have Breaks:/Replaces: foo (<< N) | 14:17 |
Sweetshark | pitti: dunno. | 14:17 |
* Sweetshark checks | 14:17 | |
pitti | seb128: poppler merge done, working nicely here | 14:17 |
* pitti uploads | 14:18 | |
seb128 | pitti, \o/ | 14:18 |
seb128 | pitti, danke | 14:18 |
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rye | erm, guys, is it known that gnome-terminal in maximized mode gets a scrollbar thumb on the left which does not doo anything? | 14:20 |
pitti | not here | 14:21 |
pitti | hm, I think I entirely disabled scrollbars in my g-t years ago | 14:21 |
jbicha | rye: I can confirm that bug, I don't know if it's been reported yet | 14:22 |
rye | initially 2 are being shown - http://ubuntuone.com/2uqK1MnRrLINfcuG19f0Zm | 14:22 |
rye | that's the same pic, not uploaded yet, sorry | 14:23 |
rye | http://ubuntuone.com/5gx7bTSxGFJxgcvUSlPnLW - here's double scrollbar | 14:24 |
pitti | seb128: can we switch versions.html from armel to armhf? | 14:25 |
pitti | it's the new "supported" arch instead of armel | 14:25 |
seb128 | pitti, sure | 14:25 |
* pitti does the change to the other reports | 14:25 | |
seb128 | pitti, I didn't even realize we hardcoded archs there | 14:25 |
pitti | seb128: if we don't, ignore me | 14:25 |
pitti | seb128: but I was looking at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing-ports/precise_probs.html | 14:25 |
pitti | and it has tons of armel stuff | 14:25 |
pitti | drilling down now | 14:26 |
seb128 | pitti, right, we don't hardcode anything | 14:27 |
pitti | seb128: ok; presumably not, as we even show powerpc | 14:27 |
seb128 | pitti, but feel free to put " p.build_failures.append((record.arch_tag, record.build_log_url))" in a if arch_tag... | 14:27 |
Sweetshark | pitti: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/851419/ like this? | 14:27 |
seb128 | pitti, yeah, I wanted to filter ppc out for some time as well | 14:27 |
pitti | seb128: most of the ppc ones are easy to fxi, though | 14:27 |
pitti | it's a good reminder for which packages to give back when gtk is out of sync on arches | 14:27 |
seb128 | pitti, well, it's just that we don't care enough to score that to the top of version I think | 14:28 |
seb128 | pitti, firefox keeps sitting there for example | 14:28 |
pitti | Sweetshark: looks fine | 14:28 |
pitti | Sweetshark: for extra cookies, use (<< 1:3.5.0-1ubuntu1~) | 14:28 |
pitti | Sweetshark: this will then DTRT for backports, PPA uploads etc. as well (which usually use a ~backports1 etc. suffix) | 14:29 |
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didrocks | ok, primary key back, people can enjoy again again ctrl + whatever in g-c-c :) | 14:37 |
* pitti hugs didrocks | 14:37 | |
* didrocks hugs pitti back :) | 14:37 | |
didrocks | it looks a little bit fancy in ccsm, but who cares :) | 14:38 |
mterry | Is someone on the cheese file override? | 14:40 |
pitti | mterry: if so, nobody mentioned it here | 14:40 |
* mterry is in the middle of something, but can fix it later if no one else does | 14:41 | |
rye | jbicha, now i can't reproduce it, hmmm | 14:42 |
rye | aand now i can again | 14:42 |
didrocks | hum, gconf-editor is segfault every 30s :/ | 14:42 |
mterry | didrocks, didn't we tell you? that's the new Ubuntu clock; we're dropping indicator-datetime | 14:43 |
didrocks | mterry: interesting, and then, I wc -l on "core dumped" to know how many ticks happened? :p | 14:44 |
mterry | didrocks, apport will tell you as time passes | 14:44 |
didrocks | oh, can't wait to see it! :) | 14:44 |
didrocks | hum, so for all those new keybindings using super | 14:44 |
didrocks | like super + arrows to switch ws | 14:44 |
didrocks | I need to change the metacity keys | 14:44 |
didrocks | I'm wondering if I should do that in the metacity package (which would make sense for 2D and 3D) | 14:45 |
didrocks | or if we should do it "depending on session" again to preserve the fallback session | 14:45 |
didrocks | let's try to have the same value for the whole distro I guess | 14:54 |
cyphermox | fyi, I'll add a patch to g-c-c to allow hiding nm-applet as well, since there's a bug open about this and it's already there for bluetooth and sound as well | 14:56 |
Sweetshark | pitti: I grabbed the extra cookies, currently building ... | 14:58 |
Sweetshark | pitti: (although I dont think anybody will backport 1ubuntu1 ;) ) | 15:09 |
pitti | Sweetshark: right; it's more like a good habit to get into | 15:09 |
Sweetshark | pitti: yep | 15:10 |
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pitti | dpm: wrt. your question from the other day: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+language-packs | 16:03 |
pitti | dpm: there haven't been any delta packs for precise since Feb 09 | 16:03 |
pitti | dpm: that's why they are out of date, and the cronjobs keep uploading broken packages | 16:03 |
dpm | pitti, argh, thanks for the heads up. Let me talk to someone on #launchpad | 16:04 |
pitti | dpm: we want to upload a fresh -base set on Thursday evening for beta-1 | 16:04 |
pitti | dpm: I was just about to request it | 16:04 |
* didrocks did some Quickly today, good old times! | 16:08 | |
* didrocks looks at #quickly and even don't see rickspencer3 around! ;-) | 16:08 | |
pitti | dpm: I requested a full update now | 16:09 |
rickspencer3 | didrocks, ok, loko now | 16:09 |
didrocks | rickspencer3: that's because I put my glasses, isn't it? :) | 16:09 |
rickspencer3 | yes | 16:10 |
dpm | pitti, I've just had a chat with thedac on #launchpad, he's going to look into it | 16:14 |
pitti | dpm: thanks | 16:14 |
dpm | pitti, if there is no notification about failed exports from LP, do you think it would be possible to detect if a langpack is broken (as in what's happening now) and get an e-mail sent to the ubuntu-translations-coordinators list from the langpacks server? | 16:19 |
pitti | rickspencer3: don't get a heart attack on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/precise_probs.html | 16:19 |
pitti | rickspencer3: I just switched armhf to supported and armel to ports on /testing/ | 16:19 |
pitti | rickspencer3: all of it is due to the long-standing bug of LibO not building on armhf, but the one currently building ought to work | 16:20 |
rickspencer3 | pitti, ok, I won't look ;) | 16:20 |
pitti | rickspencer3: "armhf: 111Ä | 16:20 |
pitti | so, no agenda items, so no meeting today | 16:34 |
seb128 | pitti, great ;-) | 16:37 |
seb128 | <- busy | 16:37 |
chrisccoulson | nice :) | 16:37 |
seb128 | if somebody wants to help on desktop updates feel free to pick some on the etherpad | 16:37 |
chrisccoulson | i'd love to actually do some precise work this week :) | 16:37 |
pitti | oh, gnome 3.3.5? | 16:38 |
kenvandine | seb128, reverting the GtkDrawingArea bg_color change seems to be harmless to me, i can't find any regessions | 16:38 |
seb128 | kenvandine, excellent, do it! | 16:38 |
kenvandine | seb128, can you think of anything besides shotwell that uses that heavily? | 16:38 |
seb128 | pitti, 3.3.90 | 16:38 |
seb128 | kenvandine, no | 16:39 |
kenvandine | ok | 16:39 |
* kenvandine does it | 16:39 | |
pitti | seb128: do we need a new GTK first? (3.3.16) | 16:40 |
pitti | seb128: well, that was put badly | 16:40 |
pitti | seb128: I mean, it's likely that some updates do; want to work on it, or sohuld I look into it? | 16:41 |
seb128 | + gtk_color_chooser_add_palette@Base 3.3.16 | 16:41 |
seb128 | + gtk_color_chooser_dialog_get_type@Base 3.3.16 | 16:41 |
seb128 | + gtk_color_chooser_dialog_new@Base 3.3.16 | 16:41 |
* seb128 applies diff | 16:41 | |
seb128 | pitti, sorry, just finishing gtk, I doubt anything needs it | 16:41 |
seb128 | they didn't add much | 16:41 |
pitti | ah, splendid | 16:41 |
seb128 | that's mostly the new color chooser stuff that nothing used it yet | 16:42 |
rickspencer3 | Sweetshark, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/937922 | 16:45 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 937922 in libreoffice "soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in X11SalGraphics::GetResolution() (dup-of: 916357)" [Undecided,New] | 16:45 |
rickspencer3 | fyi | 16:45 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 916357 in libreoffice "[Upstream] soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in X11SalGraphics::GetResolution()" [Medium,Fix committed] | 16:45 |
rickspencer3 | Sweetshark, nevermind, I guess it was a dupe :) | 16:51 |
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* didrocks waves good evening, having to take the repaired heater back home :) | 17:27 | |
dpm | pitti, a full langpack export for precise is underway (i.e. manually started already) | 17:34 |
Sweetshark | pitti: still around for a 3.5.0-1ubuntu2? | 17:40 |
pitti | Sweetshark: for another 5 mins, yes | 17:48 |
Sweetshark | pitti: ok | 17:49 |
* Sweetshark gives it a try | 17:49 | |
tkamppeter | pitti, can you upload CUPS to Debian and Ubuntu? I have fixed auto-configuration of PS printers, http://www.cups.org/str.php?L4028. | 18:02 |
Sweetshark | pitti: uploaded | 18:08 |
Sweetshark | (to chinstrap) | 18:08 |
chrisccoulson | hmmm, biking with the cut in the bottom of my big toe is quite uncomfortable | 18:09 |
seb128 | mterry, there? | 18:14 |
mterry | seb128, yar | 18:15 |
seb128 | mterry, hey | 18:15 |
seb128 | mterry, quick question on your 97_unity_power_ui.patch | 18:15 |
mterry | k | 18:15 |
seb128 | mterry, it seems quite complex...that's because you switched to a gtkgrid to be able to align as you wanted? | 18:15 |
mterry | yeah and because I kept it dynamic (i.e. in GNOME3 you don't get the change) | 18:16 |
seb128 | mterry, the dynamic is check the session and call show,hide according to it? | 18:16 |
seb128 | mterry, just checking because I'm doing the new version update, upstream switched to gtkgrid so I think I can simplify that patch quite a while, but I wanted to check with you if I overlook something | 18:17 |
mterry | seb128, yeah. But it meant that I couldn't just make glade changes. I had to be able to switch from boxes to grids in C | 18:17 |
mterry | ooh | 18:17 |
mterry | nice | 18:17 |
mterry | seb128, yeah, then the majority of the complexity was just in reparenting all the widgets | 18:17 |
seb128 | mterry, ok, great, I like simplification | 18:18 |
seb128 | thanks ;-) | 18:18 |
kenvandine | seb128, are you working on g-c-c right now? | 18:56 |
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seb128 | kenvandine, trying to | 19:24 |
seb128 | kenvandine, but people keep uploading under my feet, first didrocks, then cyphermox, I can see you coming next ;-) | 19:24 |
cyphermox | ahaha, sorry :) | 19:24 |
seb128 | kenvandine, joke aside the update is quite some work, upstream changed layouts and gtkbuilder files and that's no fun for our ui patches | 19:25 |
seb128 | kenvandine, I'm almost there, should upload in half an hour | 19:25 |
seb128 | cyphermox, no worry ;-) | 19:25 |
cyphermox | I mentioned it this morning but I guess you had already started before then anyway | 19:25 |
seb128 | cyphermox, I reassigned some g-c-c but to n-m yesterday, that's making up for it ;-) | 19:25 |
cyphermox | fun | 19:26 |
seb128 | cyphermox, I started midday but decided to get gtk and some other stuff out first and then came back to it | 19:26 |
seb128 | cyphermox, no worry your patch doesn't conflict with anything I was doing | 19:26 |
cyphermox | ok good | 19:27 |
kenvandine | seb128, ok, i'll wait until after you upload :) | 19:34 |
kenvandine | although looks like cyphermox's upload has broken it for me | 19:34 |
kenvandine | clicking on network just causes g-c-c to respawn over and over | 19:34 |
seb128 | kenvandine, what work do you plan? is that sound-nua update? if so please commit your patch before I upload, it won't conflict with other changes, the sound capplet didn't change | 19:34 |
kenvandine | yeah, that is it | 19:34 |
seb128 | kenvandine, I bet it depends on a gsettings key and cyphermox didn't add the depends | 19:34 |
kenvandine | ok... i can push my branch :) | 19:34 |
seb128 | cyphermox, ^ booooouh | 19:35 |
seb128 | kenvandine, i.e you probably need a new nm-applet with an update gsettings schemas | 19:35 |
seb128 | hum, no, that's still gconf | 19:36 |
seb128 | no gsettings abort on missing key there | 19:36 |
seb128 | dunno then | 19:36 |
kenvandine | spawns so fast i can't kill it | 19:36 |
seb128 | kenvandine, kill the applet | 19:37 |
seb128 | it will stop the respawning :p | 19:37 |
cyphermox | kenvandine: err, no | 19:40 |
cyphermox | kenvandine: it depends on a gconf key, but that should be provided by nm-applet already | 19:40 |
cyphermox | I uploaded nm-applet with that new key before the g-c-c changes | 19:40 |
kenvandine | i am completely updated, but haven't restarted | 19:41 |
kenvandine | if that matters | 19:41 |
cyphermox | it shouldn't | 19:41 |
seb128 | kenvandine, stacktrace of the issue? | 19:41 |
kenvandine | i can't tell... i get a apport dialog but it keeps getting pushed behind g-c-c :) | 19:42 |
seb128 | kenvandine, gdb -p $(pidof gnome-control-center)? | 19:42 |
seb128 | kenvandine, killing the indicator you used to open the g-c-c should stop the respawning | 19:43 |
cyphermox | I've reverted these changes on my system, I'm going to reproduce it now | 19:43 |
seb128 | it happened to me with indicator-sound earlier, stopping indicator-sound-service did it | 19:43 |
kenvandine | i ran it from a terminal! | 19:43 |
seb128 | it shouldn't respawn then | 19:43 |
seb128 | weird | 19:43 |
seb128 | well any gdb it? | 19:43 |
cyphermox | I can't reproduce it :? | 19:44 |
kenvandine | the stacktrace looks like icontheme related stuff | 19:45 |
kenvandine | http://paste.ubuntu.com/851754/ | 19:46 |
kenvandine | doesn't actually look network panel related | 19:48 |
kenvandine | but it happened when i clicked it | 19:48 |
kenvandine | actually i might have clicked on it from the session indicator while it was blowing up from my terminal session | 19:51 |
kenvandine | now that i think of it | 19:51 |
kenvandine | it was spewing gconf output to my terminal and i couldn't close the window | 19:52 |
seb128 | kenvandine, try stopping it an see if the respawns ends | 19:53 |
kenvandine | i did, and it didn't | 19:53 |
kenvandine | also, this is weird | 19:54 |
kenvandine | attaching to the new process with gdb | 19:54 |
kenvandine | i get different stacktraces | 19:54 |
seb128 | kenvandine, you get a SIGSEGV there? | 19:54 |
kenvandine | no | 19:55 |
kenvandine | it isn't crashing | 19:55 |
kenvandine | it is exiting normally | 19:55 |
kenvandine | so weird! | 19:56 |
seb128 | kenvandine, do you have several instances running? | 19:56 |
kenvandine | ah, 2 | 19:56 |
* kenvandine connects to the other one | 19:56 | |
seb128 | how did that happen? | 19:56 |
kenvandine | one is just running, working fine | 19:58 |
kenvandine | the other keeps restarting very fast | 19:58 |
* kenvandine restarts :) | 19:58 | |
kenvandine | /usr/lib/control-center-1/panels/libnetwork.so: undefined symbol: cc_shell_embed_widget_in_header | 19:59 |
seb128 | kenvandine, dpkg -l libgnome-control-center1? | 20:00 |
seb128 | kenvandine, ldd on the .so and grep for control-center? | 20:00 |
kenvandine | well, i have my local build installed | 20:00 |
kenvandine | maybe i need to rebuild now that i have all the updates | 20:01 |
seb128 | kenvandine, it seems you screwed your local build | 20:01 |
bryceh | heh, something wants to rename /home/bryce to /home/bryce/Music | 20:01 |
seb128 | kenvandine, that symbol is new in the new serie | 20:01 |
seb128 | bryceh, I guess it's bug #540567 or equivalent | 20:02 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 540567 in xdg-user-dirs-gtk "Dialog on login that wants to change "/home/egon/Desktop" to "/home/egon/Download"" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540567 | 20:02 |
seb128 | bryceh, did you change locale? usually is a mismatch between your .config/user-dirs.dirs config and your existant dirs | 20:02 |
seb128 | bryceh, can you pastebin the config in that file? | 20:03 |
bryceh | seb128, yeah somehow I'd gotten set to canadian or uk somewhere along the line, and returned it to usa yesterday (prior to today's update/reboot) | 20:03 |
seb128 | bryceh, you get that dialog on locale change | 20:04 |
seb128 | bryceh, it's supposed to let you rename your music, video etc to the wording matching your locale | 20:04 |
bryceh | http://paste.ubuntu.com/851767/ | 20:04 |
seb128 | bryceh, XDG_MUSIC_DIR="$HOME/" | 20:04 |
seb128 | that's where the message come from | 20:04 |
seb128 | what it wants to say is that it's going to make your xdg music dir be ~/Music and no your user dir | 20:04 |
seb128 | hate those bugs | 20:05 |
seb128 | we need a way to prevent people to delete xdg dirs :-( | 20:05 |
seb128 | I was discussing it with apw yesterday | 20:05 |
seb128 | he deleted Videos and the video lens was indexing the whole user dir for him | 20:05 |
bryceh | ah, yeah I thought it might be wanting to mv $HOME $HOME/Music, which would be Fun | 20:05 |
seb128 | since it does index the xdg video dir, and they fallback to the dir bellow them when you delete the dir | 20:06 |
bryceh | probably less fragile to fix apps to not assume xdg dirs are always going to be present | 20:06 |
seb128 | if that wasn't linux we would hardcode the xdg dirs on the filesystem and prevent user to deleting them :p | 20:06 |
seb128 | bryceh, xdg are always present, they fallback to the dir below the one which is not there | 20:06 |
seb128 | bryceh, that's how you got your user dir set I guess, you probably deleted the music dir | 20:07 |
seb128 | it fallbacked | 20:07 |
kenvandine | ldd /usr/lib/control-center-1/panels/libnetwork.so |grep control | 20:07 |
kenvandine | libgnome-control-center.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libgnome-control-center.so.1 (0x00007f7b525bd000) | 20:07 |
seb128 | kenvandine, haha | 20:07 |
kenvandine | damn local installs... that is why I never do that! | 20:07 |
seb128 | it's not only dx then :p | 20:07 |
seb128 | one day I will write an email to ubuntu-devel to suggest that we drop /usr/local support | 20:07 |
seb128 | or stop ranking it before /usr | 20:07 |
kenvandine | i did it a while ago to get debug symbols for ronoc :) | 20:07 |
seb128 | that bites so many users | 20:07 |
kenvandine | indeed | 20:08 |
kenvandine | I always build packages for testing, but needed a quick way to get symbols for gdb :/ | 20:08 |
seb128 | kenvandine, LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.libs gdb ... | 20:08 |
seb128 | that's how I do it | 20:09 |
seb128 | or for the g-c-c stuff sometime I cp the non stripped .so over the system one | 20:09 |
kenvandine | setting the path wasn't working in g-c-c, it is weird behavior | 20:10 |
kenvandine | anyway... whew! | 20:10 |
seb128 | kenvandine, right, for non libs you want to cp over the system one | 20:10 |
seb128 | rather than use /usr/local | 20:10 |
kenvandine | so evil! | 20:10 |
seb128 | ;-) | 20:10 |
seb128 | will teach you to use /usr/local ;-) | 20:10 |
seb128 | that directory is reserved for men (tm) :p | 20:11 |
kenvandine | i know... i promised myself i would rm -rf that right away... and forgot :) | 20:11 |
* kenvandine thinks g-c-c is way too fragile | 20:12 | |
seb128 | it is | 20:12 |
seb128 | this if any .so has an issue g-s-d or g-c-c is down is an issue | 20:12 |
kenvandine | seb128, i'll push my branch in a few minutes :) | 20:13 |
seb128 | kenvandine, ok | 20:15 |
kenvandine | seb128, pushed, thanks! | 20:17 |
seb128 | kenvandine, thank you! | 20:17 |
seb128 | kenvandine, still around? | 20:47 |
seb128 | kenvandine, unping, merge conflict resolved, it was on my side | 20:50 |
kenvandine | :) | 20:55 |
TheMuso | grrr is there any way one can turn off the HUD? | 21:18 |
lifeless | TheMuso: not blind-friendly? | 21:21 |
TheMuso | lifeless: Not accessible currently, but its not that, its that I use my alt key rather a lot, and the hud trigger is too sensative. | 21:27 |
TheMuso | So using alt to switch between channels in irssi, or terminal tabs, and I find myself caught in the hud when I don't want to be. | 21:27 |
lifeless | ah | 21:27 |
dobey | TheMuso: i changed they keybinding to <Alt><Super> in gconf-editor | 21:30 |
dobey | TheMuso: might help | 21:30 |
dobey | TheMuso: it effectively disables it, anyway :) | 21:30 |
soren | Is the HUD in standard UBuntu now, or is it still in a PPA? | 21:30 |
TheMuso | dobey: Ah thanks, IMO thats what it should be. | 21:30 |
dobey | TheMuso: well, except that super is handled by the dash, so you just get the dash with alt+super | 21:31 |
dobey | soren: yes | 21:31 |
TheMuso | dobey: Right. | 21:31 |
soren | dobey: Yes, it's still in a PPA? | 21:31 |
dobey | soren: yes it's in ubuntu | 21:31 |
soren | dobey: Hm... I wonder why I'm not seeing it. | 21:31 |
kenvandine | TheMuso, on my desktop it isn't sensitive enough, i have a hard time hitting alt quick enough to get the HUD to raise | 21:31 |
dobey | soren: press and release left alt really fast? | 21:32 |
kenvandine | on my laptop it comes up fine | 21:32 |
kenvandine | but i have to press and release really fast on my desktop | 21:32 |
soren | dobey: Doing so.. Nothing. | 21:32 |
soren | dobey: I'm half a day behind on updates. Could that be it? | 21:32 |
kenvandine | soren, no | 21:32 |
dobey | soren: it's been in for a few days | 21:32 |
soren | Oh, I'm on unity-2d, come to think of it. | 21:32 |
dobey | that would be it | 21:33 |
soren | I guess it's not supported there? | 21:33 |
dobey | i don't think it's been implemented there yet perhpas | 21:33 |
TheMuso | Its coming for unity-2d though afaik. | 21:34 |
* soren switches to unity 3d to get in on the new hawtness | 21:35 | |
jbicha | my compiz has been broken since last weekend :( bug 932125 | 21:43 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 932125 in compiz "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in Glib::Source::prepare_vfunc()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932125 | 21:43 |
bryceh | jasoncwarner_, btw the rhythmbox instabilities I mentioned the other day, I traced down to that RB had gotten set to scanning my entire system for music rather than just ~/Music. It's working much better now. | 22:18 |
seb128 | bryceh, that seems to be another side effect of your xdg broken configuration | 22:22 |
seb128 | bryceh, rb watches the xdg music dir | 22:22 |
seb128 | bryceh, btw did you delete the music dir from the disk yourself? or did that get screwed somewhere? | 22:23 |
bryceh | seb128, yes, I had deleted it some time ago (I don't use it, and it conflicts for tab completion with another M folder I do use) | 22:25 |
bryceh | looks like the directory got recreated when I upgraded though | 22:26 |
bryceh | (11 days ago) | 22:26 |
robert_ancell | desrt, hey, do you know why GMenu no longer seems to work in Unity? | 22:27 |
bryceh | seb128, btw gentle reminder about bug #934445 that you were going to take a peek at this week | 22:33 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 934445 in gnome-settings-daemon "hits g_assert (device->priv->styli) when my Wacom Bamboo 2FG 4x5 is plugged in" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934445 | 22:33 |
jasoncwarner_ | bryceh: is that default behavior? | 22:38 |
bryceh | jasoncwarner_, heya | 22:42 |
bryceh | jasoncwarner_, I guess so, but removing ~/Music is definitely self-inflicted, so didn't investigate too far. | 22:42 |
jasoncwarner_ | bryceh: hey | 22:42 |
jasoncwarner_ | bryceh: what I meant was if it defaults to entire home directory or ~/music...me thinks ~/music shoudl be default ;) | 22:43 |
bryceh | jasoncwarner_, oh, right yes ~/Music is the default | 22:43 |
jasoncwarner_ | ah, ok | 22:43 |
jasoncwarner_ | thanks | 22:43 |
bryceh | seb128 said that removing ~/Music probably screwed up the XDG settings | 22:44 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, hey, how doesn't work? | 22:47 |
seb128 | bryceh, yeah, I upstream it yesterday | 22:47 |
seb128 | bryceh, still on my list but I wanted to get the updates out first | 22:48 |
bryceh | great, thanks | 22:48 |
seb128 | bryceh, thanks for the reminder though ;-) | 22:48 |
seb128 | jasoncwarner_, hey | 22:48 |
robert_ancell | seb128, I don't see any menus when using GMenu | 22:48 |
jasoncwarner_ | hey seb128 ! | 22:48 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, right, indicator-appmenu doesn't consume gmenus... (i.e didn't get teached about them yet) | 22:49 |
robert_ancell | seb128, it used to work though | 22:49 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, desrt is working on fixing that for hud, not sure that will fix it for the panel as well though | 22:49 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, right, before that we moved the hidding menu in gtk with gnome-settings-daemon settings the xsettings | 22:50 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, they use to show in the application as fallback (as under gnome fallback), the fallback menu would get stripped by unity and put at the top | 22:50 |
seb128 | used | 22:51 |
robert_ancell | ah | 22:51 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, now gtk hide them when the xsettings is set and there is nothing for appmenu to strip and export | 22:51 |
bryceh | jasoncwarner_, btw we scared up a possible patch to test for that mightymouse bug. | 22:51 |
jasoncwarner_ | bryceh: Awesome! | 22:51 |
jasoncwarner_ | bryceh: is it specific to the mighty mouse? | 22:52 |
seb128 | jasoncwarner_, bryceh: btw that issue of people deleting xdg dirs is a real one, not sure where to discuss it or how to solve it though | 22:52 |
seb128 | jasoncwarner_, we got pinged by people with issues with the video lens this week (it was going through all the user dir for the same reason, they deleted the video xdg dir) | 22:52 |
bryceh | jasoncwarner_, Timo has HW and will be testing the patch, but he's going to be on travel so may be a bit | 22:52 |
seb128 | the screenshot application breaks when you delete the xdg dir | 22:52 |
seb128 | nautilus goes to cpu waste trying to build a template menu with all your user dir content if you delete the templates xdg dir | 22:53 |
seb128 | etc | 22:53 |
bryceh | jasoncwarner_, if it is this patch, the regression affects more mice than just mightymouse | 22:53 |
jasoncwarner_ | bryceh: cool, thanks | 22:53 |
jasoncwarner_ | seb128: that sounds like something we should be working to fix? | 22:53 |
seb128 | jasoncwarner_, yeah, that's why I'm mentioning those issues and raising it | 22:54 |
seb128 | well it's an issue if you shoot yourself in the foot and delete a standard dir | 22:54 |
seb128 | but seems like quite some people do... | 22:54 |
jasoncwarner_ | seb128: do you know if we have bugs anywhere for those? | 22:54 |
bryceh | jasoncwarner_, anyway, we just uncovered it; more sleuthing to come before we have something to try. | 22:55 |
jasoncwarner_ | thanks, bryceh | 22:55 |
seb128 | jasoncwarner_, yes, all those issues have been reported | 22:58 |
jasoncwarner_ | thanks seb128 | 23:00 |
seb128 | yw | 23:01 |
jasoncwarner_ | bryceh and RAOF - thumper and lamalex have reports of X crashing for them yesterday and today and causing some general grief...could you guys ping them and have a look? | 23:14 |
bryceh | jasoncwarner_, ah, I'll look for their reports in LP | 23:17 |
thumper | bryceh: didn't get to LP | 23:17 |
thumper | bryceh: as running nux from source | 23:17 |
thumper | but normally if we crash compiz | 23:18 |
thumper | we don't crash X | 23:18 |
RAOF | What's it crashing in? | 23:18 |
thumper | but I'm getting logged out | 23:18 |
thumper | umm... | 23:18 |
jasoncwarner_ | thanks, bryceh | 23:18 |
thumper | today it may have crashed during the upgrade | 23:18 |
thumper | as it happened I was talking in a google hangout | 23:18 |
thumper | I remembered that I was doing an upgrade though | 23:18 |
thumper | yesterday I was just editing a google doc in chromium | 23:18 |
thumper | then boom, login screen | 23:19 |
RAOF | I'm sure this is the point where I wish again that I had fixed the xserver apport integration to work more reliably. | 23:19 |
bryceh | if it's returning you to login screen, probably an xserver crash, so we'd need a backtrace. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Backtracing for collecting manually, if apport isn't doing it. | 23:19 |
seb128 | bryceh,could well be the mesa issue you said might be fixed in the edger | 23:20 |
seb128 | bryceh, the retracers catch quite some dups on that one | 23:20 |
seb128 | bryceh, seems lot of users run into it | 23:20 |
seb128 | hint: we should really land that fix in precise ;-) | 23:20 |
bryceh | seb128, could be, yeah. That mesa bug sounds like it has some fairly widespread effects. | 23:20 |
* thumper is on intel graphics | 23:20 | |
thumper | bryceh: I'll take a look at the backtrace as soon as I get a break in other work | 23:21 |
seb128 | thumper, do you have anything in /var/crash? | 23:21 |
RAOF | thumper: Is there an Xorg.0.log.old available showing the crash? | 23:21 |
thumper | seb128: yep, 6 things | 23:21 |
RAOF | Any of them Xorg? :/ | 23:22 |
bryceh | seb128, unfortunately it sounds like the patch hasn't gotten a lot of QA upstream yet, so we're hesistant to just slap it in until we've had someone confirm it does fix things | 23:22 |
thumper | nothing Xorg | 23:22 |
thumper | compiz for today | 23:22 |
bryceh | pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old | 23:22 |
thumper | so maybe it is us? | 23:22 |
bryceh | thumper, grep intel_ from your compiz backtrace | 23:22 |
thumper | bryceh: Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting | 23:23 |
thumper | bryceh: I'll pastebin it | 23:23 |
bryceh | ok | 23:23 |
thumper | http://paste.ubuntu.com/852010/ | 23:23 |
RAOF | Oh, that one. | 23:24 |
bryceh | ok this looks different than the mesa bugs I mentioned | 23:24 |
bryceh | looks more like bug #925341 | 23:26 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 925341 in xorg-server "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in WriteToClient()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925341 | 23:26 |
lamalex | RAOF, i have the same symptoms as thumper | 23:26 |
RAOF | Ah, you've found it faster than me. | 23:27 |
bryceh | see my comment #5 there | 23:27 |
seb128 | lamalex, same errors in Xorg.0.log.old? | 23:28 |
lamalex | seb128, what should i grep for | 23:28 |
lamalex | sorry i was reading the older stuff about being logged out and such | 23:29 |
seb128 | lamalex, look for Backtrace | 23:29 |
seb128 | lamalex, in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old | 23:29 |
bryceh | it'd be at the tail end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log* | 23:29 |
lamalex | indeed | 23:29 |
lamalex | [ 7573.623] 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x26) [0x7fba66cf41b6] | 23:30 |
RAOF | I suspect we're corrupting some buffer somewhere; a version of my barrier patch that never hit the archive did that, but I'm pretty sure the version in the archive isn't doing that. | 23:30 |
seb128 | lamalex, what lines after that? | 23:30 |
RAOF | Chase was chasing down a synaptics crash which was due to buffer corruption; that might be the cause of this, too? | 23:30 |
seb128 | RAOF, he uploaded a fix for that today I think | 23:31 |
RAOF | seb128: Yeah, I think that's right. | 23:31 |
Sarvatt | no synaptics being used in that Xorg.0.log | 23:31 |
lamalex | seb128, http://paste.ubuntu.com/852021/ | 23:31 |
seb128 | seems a different one | 23:32 |
seb128 | [ 7573.623] 3: /usr/bin/X (MakeAtom+0x89) [0x7fba66ba9a69] | 23:32 |
seb128 | lamalex, yours seems to be bug #936758 | 23:33 |
Sarvatt | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/936758 seems a dupe of that paste | 23:33 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 936758 in xorg-server "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in MakeAtom()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/936758 | 23:33 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 936758 in xorg-server "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in MakeAtom()" [Medium,New] | 23:33 |
bryceh | bug #936758 | 23:33 |
bryceh | hah Sarvatt beat me | 23:33 |
Sarvatt | lol | 23:33 |
Sarvatt | seb beat me :) | 23:33 |
seb128 | ;-) | 23:33 |
bryceh | I was distracted copying mesa ;-) | 23:33 |
bryceh | Fwiw we've got a few handfuls of xserver crashes since we updated - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server?field.status:list=NEW&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status:list=CONFIRMED&field.status:list=TRIAGED&field.status:list=INPROGRESS&field.tag=precise&field.tags_combinator=ALL | 23:34 |
Sarvatt | what the heck is compiz doing there | 23:34 |
thumper | ah fark | 23:35 |
thumper | there was a change recently to add an atom for focused (I think) | 23:35 |
thumper | I | 23:35 |
thumper | I'll get sam to come and chat when he is around. | 23:35 |
RAOF | No matter how mad compiz is being it shouldn't crash the server. | 23:36 |
Sarvatt | it shouldn't crash the server regardless so still an x bug | 23:36 |
Sarvatt | what he said | 23:36 |
RAOF | That might have a similar cause to the WriteToClient thing; XInternAtom requires a reply. | 23:37 |
RAOF | thumper, lamalex: Do you have any steps to reproduce? Poking around in the core would be nice. | 23:39 |
thumper | RAOF: not at this stage | 23:39 |
bryceh | RAOF, yeah the WriteToClient thing is due to invalid data getting into the server somehow, and pinballing around until it crashes there. I could imagine whatever causes that might have multiple ways to crash. | 23:40 |
RAOF | bryceh: And I'm wondering whether the synaptics driver is the thing feeding the invalid data... | 23:40 |
RAOF | Let's look at Chase's change... | 23:40 |
bryceh | thumper, if RAOF's right, then poking your touchpad a lot might repo it. | 23:41 |
RAOF | Except that it doesn't for me; I've been solely using a synaptics touchpad, and X hasn't crashed. | 23:42 |
thumper | poking in what way? | 23:42 |
RAOF | So there's got to be something more. | 23:42 |
Sarvatt | yeah synaptics is fine here too | 23:42 |
bryceh | RAOF, yep been banging on synaptics a lot here, no crashes | 23:44 |
bryceh | but I think we've established that X maintainers have magical hardware | 23:44 |
RAOF | Ah, ok. Chase's fix only applies to multitouch touchpads. | 23:45 |
* Sarvatt is using a multitouch synaptics | 23:45 | |
RAOF | So, the trigger for Chase's bug is performing touches on the touchpad while the device is disabled. | 23:48 |
RAOF | In particular, if you start touch while it's disabled and then release after it's been ree | 23:49 |
RAOF | re-enabled, you'll decrement a counter that hasn't been incremented. If you keep doing this it'll end up negative, and then synaptics will start writing data outside the buffer. | 23:49 |
RAOF | Ok, and this is a semi-multitouch pad, which doesn't count. | 23:53 |
seb128 | RAOF, btw just saw your comment on that barrier bug about nvidia issues, we have bug #937792 | 23:56 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 937792 in nvidia-graphics-drivers "Left launcher does not revel when in autohide mode on multi-monitor setups" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/937792 | 23:56 |
seb128 | RAOF, which is the issue DBO said was due to new nvidia drivers | 23:57 |
RAOF | Ta. | 23:57 |
seb128 | yw | 23:57 |
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