[03:53] /join #bzr [03:56] :) [03:57] GggrrGIT! [03:59] RAOF: ohhai, are you a good person to talk to about unity theme bugs ? [03:59] RAOF: specifically bug 920746 [03:59] Launchpad bug 920746 in unity "themes wonky - looks bad" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920746 [04:00] lifeless: No, not really. Urgh, sympathies. That looks really annoying. [04:01] Something would appear to have gone weird in your gnome-settings-daemon, though. [04:03] lifeless: Could you install dconf-tools and check out the org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins tree? Particularly xsettings? [04:04] (Oh, with dconf-editor) [04:05] RAOF: what things from there do you want to know ? [04:05] lifeless: If I disable the xsettings plugin I get something that looks a lot like what you've got. Is the xsettings plugin enabled? [04:06] inactive, grayscale, nothing disabled, nothing enabled, medium hinting, priority 2, rgb [04:06] Tick the button to activate it. [04:06] theme works [04:07] but I cannot move windows [04:07] Right. [04:07] Wait for compiz to finish its screaming hissy fit. [04:07] wow thats a long hissy fit [04:08] It's finished restarting after its crash? [04:08] I presume so [04:08] I can alt-tab now [04:09] sloppy-focus isn't anymore, but at least it looks nice ;) [04:09] :) [04:09] what other plugins should be on by default? [04:10] Everything. [04:10] hah [04:10] very very very much not the case [04:10] Are there any which are disabled? [04:11] Oh. gconf is the only one of mine which is disabled. [04:11] And that's just a migrate-from-gconf thing, so it probably turns itself off. [04:11] background, clipboard, font, gconf, housekeeping, keybindings, keyboard, media-keys, mouse, print-notifications, smartcard, sound, wacom, xrandr [04:12] (and xsettings, but its on now) [04:12] Ah. [04:12] So, your system is not so much of the working then. [04:12] should I turn them all (but gconf) on ? [04:12] Yes. [04:12] RAOF: well, I *live* in uxterm + firefox + tomboy, so I've been piqued but not destroyed [04:13] the collapsing of titles in to the top left was really getting on my tits though :) [04:14] can't move my mouse now [04:14] can still click [04:14] and evince segfaulted :) [04:16] :D [04:16] The GNOME stack really loves settings changes. [04:16] seriously, can I get my mouse back ? [04:16] It should come back by itself? [04:16] cursor is there, won't move [04:17] hmm, plugged in usb mouse, which works... [04:17] driver has shat itself? [04:17] anoting in dmesg to suggest that [04:18] Probably one of the plugins you enabled caused g-s-d to suddenly discover your touchpad and think it should be disabled. [04:19] peripherals touchpad thingy shows enabled [04:19] “xinput list” followed by “xinput list-props $TOUCHPAD_DEVICEID” could indicate that the enabled property has been toggled. [04:20] TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint id=12 [slave pointer (2)] [04:20] -> id is 12 ? [04:20] Yup. [04:20] erm no [04:20] perhaps SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad id=10 [slave pointer (2)] [04:20] Hm. It shouldn't have turned off the nubbin. [04:20] which ? [04:20] Which one(s) isn't(aren't) working? Or both! [04:20] pad only [04:21] Then 10 [04:21] I forgot I had a nipple [04:21] so, list-props, and look for ? [04:21] Synaptics Off (276) [04:21] Device Enabled (132): 1 [04:21] Well, there are two things; one is Device Enabled, and one is Synaptics Off. [04:21] Synaptics Off (274): 1 [04:22] RAOF: how do I tell it to be alive? [04:23] xinput set-int-prop 10 274 8 0 [04:23] ahha [04:23] thanks [04:23] (For those playing at home, that's $DEVICE_ID, $PROPERTY, 8-just-because, $VALUE [04:26] thanks a lot [04:26] is sloppy focus still available for those that want it ? [04:26] (and if so, how does one get it ?) [04:26] I think so; you'd need to venture in to the ccsm swamp to manage that. [04:30] doth not seem like it [04:33] Huh. I don't even have ccsm installed on this system. [04:33] ahh, [04:33] this still works: [04:33] http://askubuntu.com/questions/64605/how-do-i-set-focus-follows-mouse [04:35] right, thats enough spelunking [04:36] optimalish systme, back to work ;) [05:53] Oh, ah. Yeah, uploading a 170MB attachment to launchpad aint happening. [05:54] lifeless: Might I point you towards https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squid3/+bug/930252 [05:54] RAOF: Error: bug 930252 not found [05:55] lifeless: It's me and Sidnei wondering why squid's trying to allocate 10PB of memory for the swap. [06:52] good morning [06:53] didrocks: Heya! [06:54] hey RAOF, how are you? [06:56] I'm *awesome* [06:57] Much like weasels. They're also awesome. [06:57] Like little orange ferrets! How adorable! [07:02] heh :) [07:02] Hows about yourself? [07:02] Good morning [07:05] erk, the HUD gets in the way everytime I change virtual desktops [07:06] pitti: yeah, there was work to avoid that in compiz, but it's part of the patch I had to revert on Friday morning [07:07] pitti: it needs a patch in compiz (the new one is in a better shape) and a patch in unity [07:07] didrocks: ah, thanks [07:07] Thank you for doing that, by the way. My keyboard shortcuts work :) [07:10] RAOF: my pleasure to make your day better! :) [07:15] RAOF: -> upstream :) [07:15] lifeless: Urgh. I need to duplicate that on a bugzilla? :( [07:16] RAOF: that or convince squid to move to LP for bugs;) [07:17] lifeless: Or convince *you* to duplicate that on a bugzilla /-? [07:20] join #squid-dewv [07:20] join #squid-dev please [07:20] On freenode? [07:20] bah, no 0 [07:20] no - [07:21] squiddev [07:36] lifeless: You maintain squid in Debian/Ubuntu, right? You saw that? [07:37] RAOF: I don't [07:37] RAOF: I try hard not to mix up upstream + packaging [07:38] Ok. [07:38] one or t'other, avoids circular reasoning [07:38] (I fail on some stuff, buf if you ever need another hting to maintain, just shout) [07:39] Heh. [07:39] Ok. Debian's got 3.1.19. Time for a merge. [08:06] We're not at a stage where merging a new upstream squid3 (3.1.19-1) requires a FFe much more than “fixes bug #930252 which prevents squid working at all”, right? :) [08:06] Launchpad bug 930252 in squid3 "squid3 crashed with SIGABRT in fatal_dump()" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930252 [08:09] pitti: Hi Martin! Did you see my explanation at https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu/precise/accountsservice/locale-test/+merge/93404 ? [08:11] hello GunnarHj [08:11] yes [08:11] GunnarHj: I was on holiday yesterday, catching up with my huge inbox now [08:12] pitti: Ok. :) [08:30] good morning everyone [08:32] hey chrisccoulson [08:32] hi pitti, how are you? [08:32] chrisccoulson: quite fine, thanks! we spent three nice days in Berlin [08:40] no snow anymore? :) [08:40] it's almost entirely gone [08:41] pitti: oh, btw, reminder about reminding for the week report minder :p [08:41] * pitti hugs didrocks [08:41] * didrocks hugs pitti back [08:43] the snow here was a bit of an anti-climax. we only had a little bit :( [08:46] ah pitti launched the retracer :) [08:46] it keeps breaking on duplicate signature confusion [08:46] chrisccoulson: you are more in rain, isn't it? :) [08:46] ah :/ [08:46] one of these days I need to fix this properly [08:46] it's launchpad timing out? [08:47] didrocks, apparently not: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17102615 ;) [08:48] chrisccoulson: who do you think will believe this? It's obviously a fake :) [08:48] heh === lool- is now known as lool [09:09] If firefox/icedtea in precise is hanging on my banking site (and breaking firefox after this) - where do I start with debugging - the vm does not crash, it simply does not work [09:12] rye: is the banking site java? [09:12] ah, icedtea, yeah, there's a known crasher ATM, but IIRC, there's an icedtea plugin log [09:13] I have to go through the open bugs later today, there are quite a few about java plugins ATM [09:13] micahg, what i am worried - it renders firefox unusable until restart [09:13] which is kind of strange given that plugin runs in separate process [09:14] there used to be a java error console, I don't know if that still exists [09:14] is there anything in the firefox error console? [09:15] The program 'java' received an X Window System error. [09:15] oh shiny [09:16] and then firefox fails to redraw the UI, it fits [09:30] hey [09:31] sorry, I'm a bit later than usual today [09:31] (had a bank appointment and time to come back) [09:36] Is anyone else finding X really unstable this week? [09:36] multi-touch mouse also not responding as you expect? [09:39] Daviey, try #ubuntu-x, didn't notice any issue but I use a normal 3 buttons usb mouse [09:39] no xorg issue [09:39] is pitti back? [09:39] pitti, it's meeting reminder day! [09:40] seb128: thanks [09:41] hey seb128 [09:41] seb128: thanks! will do ASAP, just finishing up something [09:41] oh, a pitti ;-) [09:41] pitti, hello, wie gets? had a good w.e? [09:41] seb128: yes, indeed! we spent three nice days in Berlin [09:46] pitti, great ;-) [10:02] hey seb128 [10:03] hey chrisccoulson, how are you? [10:03] seb128, yeah, not too bad thanks. although, i would have been better had i not trodden on the pins of an electrical plug first thing this morning :( [10:04] ouch :( [10:04] yeah, i split the bottom of one of my toes [10:04] see at least european plugs are round :p [10:04] but, the plug ended up worse off ;) [10:15] didrocks: meh @ unity-lens-video [10:15] python again [10:16] pitti, my bad [10:16] we just dropped system-config-printer applet, and now it's again back.. [10:16] pitti: yeah, I know… [10:16] didrocks: (not your fault, sorry, I'm just venting) [10:16] didrocks: are we requrired to install this by default? [10:17] pitti, what's the issue with python? [10:17] (also, it's currently crashing like mad, but that'll get fixed) [10:17] pitti, shouldn't be an issue once bug #929506 is fixed [10:17] Launchpad bug 929506 in unity "lenses are loaded on start, should be lazy loaded" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/929506 [10:17] pitti: seems so that it's the default that the u1 team requires [10:17] pitti, lens shouldn't load on login but lazy load on dash use [10:17] seb128: yes, but currently they don't it seems [10:17] davidcalle: btw, on the music lens + rhythmbox, where are we at? [10:17] pitti, that got broken in precise and it's on the high bug list [10:17] pitti, cf the bug I just pointed [10:17] pitti: they don't, but it's hihgh in the priority list [10:18] high* [10:18] ah, thanks [10:18] didrocks, wip, the db parsing is done, mhr3 might take over the remaining bits. [10:19] davidcalle, didrocks: OOI, are the music/video lenses for buying only? they don't seem to find any of my local music/videos [10:19] pitti, btw cr3 was asking yesterday that we switch from checkbox-gtk to checkbox-qt [10:19] seb128: right, I commented on bug 937189 [10:19] Launchpad bug 937189 in checkbox "checkbox-gtk should be replaced with checkbox-qt on the desktop image" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/937189 [10:19] pitti, it indexes XDG_VIDEO_DIR, are your video in ~Video? [10:19] or whatever is the dir in german [10:19] pitti: they look at your video dir [10:19] seb128: no, in ~/download/ [10:20] but my music is in teh standard dir [10:20] pitti, so that's why [10:20] pitti, well it's a "video" lens ;-) [10:20] not a music one [10:20] pitti: for the music one, nothing is shown right now as we dropped banshee [10:20] didrocks: ah, the music one only supports banshee? [10:20] and the rhythmbox scope isn't ready [10:20] ok, that explains both, thanks [10:20] pitti, the music lens should pickup your currently Banshe/soon Rbox library. [10:20] well, I made it clear during the UDS session :) [10:21] davidcalle: you will need to require a FFe [10:21] well, it's currently a bug that it doesn't show any results [10:21] I doubt that ffe will be refused :p [10:21] so, filing an FFE is good for tracking, but there's no reason to deny it [10:21] agreed, just that will need to do the paperwork :) [10:21] didrocks, pitti, ok [10:22] so don't worry too much about this [10:22] davidcalle: this rb scope is in the unity-lens, not a separate source? [10:22] didrocks, in the music lens, even if I would prefer an external scope. [10:23] didrocks, for people upgrading from Oneiric, and using Banshee. [10:23] davidcalle: well, otherwise, we would have the music lens supporting by default banshee + u1, and another source [10:23] davidcalle: you keep the banshee support? [10:23] isn't it? [10:24] didrocks, it should, but I need mhr3 input on doing it cleanly. [10:24] ok :) [10:24] didrocks, I'd prefer to have rb and banshee as external scopes and music players recommending them. [10:24] didrocks, but it's not my call. [10:25] mhr3: ? ^ [10:26] * mhr3 reads backlog [10:27] didrocks, yes, we want to keep the banshee scope [10:27] mhr3: great, thanks :) [10:35] pitti: didrocks is a real man now, he sponsored his first LibreOffice upload. [10:36] Sweetshark: well, I uploaded and updated some OOo in karmic time :) [10:37] hey Sweetshark [10:37] I saw, thanks! [10:38] didrocks: ah, ok. ;) btw I by now (3.5) LO is saner than it was in the 3.3/3.4 series so hopefully a bit more time to really take care about the details too. === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [11:31] recently update remove the windows menu any body know where to file the bug [11:31] ? [11:32] s9iper1: it's by design now; right-click on window title bar or alt+space [11:35] pitti: its not a good change its confusing if we have an other application running in the background [11:35] like i have opened xchat and chrome is running behind it [11:37] what's that to do with the windows menu? [11:38] its mixing with each other now wait i give you a screenshot [11:38] cyphermox: FYI, holding your wpasupplicant lucid-proposed upload until bug 528087 is fixed in precise [11:38] Launchpad bug 528087 in wpasupplicant "merge patch for segfault when using smartcards with NetworkManager" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528087 [11:40] pitti: see the mixing and now there is a confusion here http://imagebin.org/200004 [11:41] pitti, thanks for fixing the retracer, I untagged a bug and deleted the lock yesterday but that was apparently not enough [11:41] s9iper1: that looks like a compiz/unity window drawing bug; but it's got nothing to do with the alt+space window menu? [11:41] seb128: it hit another weird dupe detection case [11:41] seb128: some day I need to track it down properly, but for now I just wrote a bug pattern and restarted manually [11:42] pitti, ok, thanks [11:42] pitti: thanks [11:44] seb128: do you know where I'd find the packaging for libindicator-appmenu ? [11:44] * smspillaz be making daily builds [11:44] smspillaz, there is no such lib? [11:44] seb128: err, indicator-appmenu ? [11:44] or whatever provides appmenus ? [11:44] smspillaz, lp:~ubuntu-desktop/indicator-appmenu/ubuntu [11:45] great, thanks :) [11:45] yw [11:45] pitti, hi [11:46] hello tkamppeter [11:48] pitti, about bug 936629, the process where gs wants to look into /proc//auxv seems to live only while the print job is living, so I could not find out which process it is. It happens with the pnm2ppa driver, one can simply reproduce it by creating a queue for this driver (printing into a file) and printing a test page on this queue. [11:48] Launchpad bug 936629 in cups "Printing fails after printing first document " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/936629 [11:50] tkamppeter: so that'll need some stracing then to find out [11:50] tkamppeter: perhaps you can put the commands how to create this fake queue into the bug? [11:51] pitti, will this help? Will it not also only tell that "gs" accessed /proc//auxv? [11:51] * pitti ^5s seb128 on http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/precise-fixes-report.html - nice work! [11:51] tkamppeter: well, we need to know whether it's gs or something launched by gs [11:51] pitti, oh, I tied you, great ;-) thanks! nice work for you as well! [11:51] tkamppeter: if you are sure that this pid was gs, then we don't need further strace [11:52] * pitti grabs the gauntlet -- it's on! [11:52] ... after lunch, bbl [12:45] chrisccoulson, on thunderbird the send button has disappeared from the email window [12:45] as a result i can't send emails [12:45] any ideas === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:49] seb128: good morning [12:51] ronoc - can you add it back to the toolbar (right click -> Customize)? [12:51] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670472 says we need the new vte3 & gtk to fix [12:51] Gnome bug 670472 in HighContrast and LowContrast "High Contrast 3.3.90 (rewrite) breaks gnome-terminal, other apps" [Critical,Needinfo] [12:53] chrisccoulson, I open a draft email and right click where [12:53] it pops up the edit email window [12:53] before there was a big send button [12:53] ronoc, on the toolbar in the compose window [12:54] chrisccoulson, right click doesn't bring up and options [12:54] any even [12:54] ronoc, does the toolbar exist at all? [12:55] chrisccoulson, yes with font size etc - is that where you mean ? [12:55] ronoc, no, the one which normally has the send button on it :) [12:55] or is that one missing? [12:56] must be missing [12:56] how do i restore it [12:56] ronoc, does it come back if you go to View -> Toolbars and make sure that Composition Toolbar is checked? [12:56] chrisccoulson, ah that was it :) [12:57] chrisccoulson, thanks [12:57] :) [12:57] silly me [13:10] jbicha, hey [13:10] jbicha, gtk is on my update list for today, it's next in fact ;-) [13:12] jbicha, pitti: do you guys work(ed) with the debian remmina maintainer? not sure how to handle bug #931336 and bug #926619 [13:12] Launchpad bug 931336 in remmina "Remmina package doesn't provide .desktop file" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931336 [13:12] Launchpad bug 926619 in remmina "no tray icon in untity" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/926619 [13:13] jbicha, pitti: especiall the second (indicator support), do we want an ubuntu diff for that? === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [13:18] * didrocks taking a break, back in an hour [13:18] seb128: do you know if kenvandine will be in today ? [13:19] smspillaz, he should be [13:19] smspillaz, yesterway was an u.s holiday but he should be there today [13:20] hmm ok [13:21] seb128: it seems like indicator-appmenu's packaging is pretty out of date. and it uses merge-source [13:21] smspillaz, I did the recent update so it shouldn't be outdated and yes it use merge upstream as most dx sources, it allows to backport upstream commits in one command [13:21] seb128: the missing .desktop is fixed in trunk, not sure about the appindicator but we'd probably have a diff for LPI anyway, right? [13:21] hmm [13:22] jbicha, well, we could in theory have a series.ubuntu in the debian package with those [13:22] seb128: ok, I guess there are just conflicts when attempting to merge this local menus branch. its probably the case that this one is out of sync with trunk [13:22] seb128: would I be safe if I were to just cp in the debian directory and debuild with that ? (assuming no files have been added / removed?) [13:23] smspillaz, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/indicator-appmenu/ubuntu is less that a week old and has 0.3.91 [13:23] smspillaz, yes, copying the debian dir should be fine [13:23] ok :) [13:31] didrocks, did anything in unity change over the weekend that would affect the launcher revealing on multi-mon setups? [13:32] seb128: I actually tried to enable indicator support, it's in the ubuntu-desktop PPA [13:32] seb128: but it doesn't seem to work [13:32] pitti, hum, ok [13:33] pitti, I will have a look to that, adding to my todo [13:33] pitti: it didn't seem to work here either [13:33] seb128: hm, I just changed -DWITH_APPINDICATOR=ON [13:33] I didn't try the patch [13:33] but that patch doesn't seem to actually fix indicator support [13:33] pitti, did you add the build-depends as well? [13:34] yes [13:34] pitti, jbicha: ok, I will have a look [13:34] and it builds fine, and links to indicator etc. [13:34] but I still never saw it [13:34] I enabled the options in the "applet" tab [13:34] and tried ssh and VNC [13:34] pitti, ok, thanks [13:34] I will debug [13:34] pitti, btw do you have an opinion on new poppler from Debian and if we should merge this cycle? [13:35] they added a new binary from private .h files and multiarched it [13:35] oh, they have 0.18.4 now, nice [13:35] yes, in experimental [13:36] seb128: looks like an easy merge [13:36] seb128: want me to look into it? [13:36] pitti, well I think slangasek said that multiarching libs was a ffe [13:36] so I prefer to ask before [13:36] oh, I see [13:37] pitti, if you want to, sure, I've enough to keep busy with GNOME today (and this week) ;-) [13:37] I thought that was mostly for natty when we introduced it [13:37] pitti, well maybe it's not ffe material, I seemed to remember that [13:37] but maybe it was natty yes ;-) [13:38] pitti, well in any case I think we should merge on them if we can, especially for the new binary, avoid having to deal with a transition starting next cycle and having the keep compat until the next lts [13:39] right [13:39] seb128: I asked in #u-release [13:39] pitti, danke [13:40] didrocks, I think the latest gnome-control-center broke the launcher, I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/937792 [13:40] Launchpad bug 937792 in gnome-control-center "Left launcher does not revel when in autohide mode on multi-monitor setups" [Undecided,New] [13:41] pgraner, you didn't get the new control center it seems from that bug [13:41] gnome-control-center (1:3.3.5-0ubuntu4) precise; urgency=low [13:41] ii gnome-control-center 1:3.3.5-0ubuntu3 utilities to configure the GNOME desktop [13:41] [13:41] pgraner, it was just uploaded [13:41] pgraner, also the control center has nothing to do with behaviours, it just applies configurations [13:42] pgraner, i.e if you didn't change a config, you could as well have g-c-c not installed, it's not impacting on any runtime behaviour [13:42] seb128, ok, sorry missed the digit on ubuntu... [13:42] pgraner, that seems an unity or compiz bug [13:42] pgraner, do you use nvidia? [13:42] seb128, yep nvidia [13:42] pgraner, DBO mentioned yesterday that the new nvidia drivers broke the barrier [13:42] pgraner, ok, reassigning to nvidia then [13:43] seb128, great, I'll edit and take out the other bits in the description [13:44] pgraner, I reassigned with a comment [13:45] seb128: oh, and gir bindings, too [13:45] pitti, oh, right [13:45] thanks seb128 [13:45] pgraner, yw [13:45] didrocks, ^ btw handle the bug so unping for you [13:59] back [13:59] ok, seb128 sorted it out with pgraner, thanks :) [14:00] didrocks, wb, yw ;-) [14:01] didrocks, btw thanks for uploading g-c-c under my feet, need to rebase my update :p [14:01] (doing the new tarball update) [14:01] seb128: my pleasure :-) sorry for this! [14:01] didrocks, no worry ;-) [14:02] blame design who pinged me all of the sudden ;) [14:02] one day design will start using the bug tracker rather than IRC pings... [14:02] * didrocks will bless that day [14:03] ok, now let's see this "primary" things regarding compiz [14:03] well, as long as IRC works, there is no reason for them to change [14:03] people don't voluntarily make it more difficult for them :) [14:04] pitti, that's the issue with people :p [14:04] https://bugs.launchpad.net/humans/+filebug [14:05] any body tell me to which package does this bug belong https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/933841 [14:05] Launchpad bug 933841 in unity "Ugly context menu" [Low,Confirmed] [14:05] waow bug #868423, didn't see that before :) [14:05] Launchpad bug 868423 in ayatana-design "Launcher - Workspace switcher should not be in the Launcher by default" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/868423 [14:05]