| jrwren | snap-l: completely unimpressed with teh squeezebox deb pkg | 00:21 |
|---|---|---|
| jrwren | its terrible. | 00:21 |
| rick_h | ha | 00:21 |
| jrwren | http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Install-the-software/Install-Squeezebox-server.html <-- much better | 00:33 |
| jrwren | or not. | 00:37 |
| jrwren | same damned pkg. | 00:37 |
| jrwren | fail. | 00:37 |
| jrwren | and why do I need a mysqueezebox account to login to the server that is on my host? | 00:42 |
| jrwren | softsqueeze windows could not find a JRE... DIAF! | 00:59 |
| snap-l | jrwren: They tie it together so you can still use the radio if your machine is offline | 01:21 |
| snap-l | and softsqueeze is a bit of a PITA, which is why I use squeezeslave | 01:21 |
| snap-l | but that's text based | 01:21 |
| snap-l | and the package for the server is a bit woknky, but no worse than most commercial packages | 01:22 |
| snap-l | all I can say is "it gets better" | 01:23 |
| snap-l | I had the same hate for it | 01:23 |
| jrwren | just connecting to stream is not bad. | 01:23 |
| jrwren | but wtf is with the delay? | 01:23 |
| jrwren | took like 5 minutes. | 01:23 |
| jrwren | can I turn off any transcoding? | 01:23 |
| jrwren | i don't see it getting better. | 01:28 |
| jrwren | this is terrible. | 01:28 |
| rick_h | lol | 01:28 |
| rick_h | patches welcome? :) | 01:28 |
| jrwren | i think starting with a different codebase would be better. | 01:29 |
| rick_h | fork fork fork! | 01:29 |
| jrwren | no ty | 01:29 |
| jrwren | I'm thinking, why fork Hurd, when Linux exists? | 01:29 |
| jrwren | this is so bad it says it is playing one thing, but I"m hearing aother thing. | 01:30 |
| jrwren | a lot of potential i suppose. | 01:31 |
| jrwren | haha, now its playing a track that I clicked 10min ago. | 01:33 |
| jrwren | I didn't queue it, I clicked play, as in now. | 01:33 |
| jrwren | this is WIERD. | 01:33 |
| rick_h | it takes time for all that to cross the air you know | 01:34 |
| jrwren | right. | 01:34 |
| Blazeix | bless its heart, it's trying. | 01:34 |
| snap-l | jrwren: OK, the stream.mp3? It's awful | 01:44 |
| snap-l | Don't use that | 01:44 |
| snap-l | For whatever reason it gets buffered all to hell | 01:44 |
| snap-l | use the client | 01:44 |
| snap-l | Trust me | 01:44 |
| jrwren | oh well that sucks, stream.mp3 was such a great idea. | 02:07 |
| snap-l | I know. It sucks. Don't use it. :) | 02:10 |
| snap-l | http://download.magnatune.com/artists/albums/philrey-hellzauber/ | 02:24 |
| rick_h | morning | 11:54 |
| snap-l | Good morning | 12:31 |
| snap-l | new OMC is up | 12:31 |
| snap-l | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1096907/do-browsers-parse-javascript-on-every-page-load/9261355#9261355 | 12:46 |
| snap-l | Honestly, that's something I hadn't thought of before. | 12:46 |
| rick_h | yea, welcome to compiler optmization | 12:49 |
| brousch | geez, long updates today | 13:01 |
| brousch | maybe because i put them off for a week | 13:01 |
| rick_h | heh, not surprising. | 13:10 |
| rick_h | bah, good fish equip is hard to find. Can't find the hose I want but from a couple of places and none of them do anything other than ups ground shipping :( | 13:12 |
| * rick_h misses prime shipping from everyone else | 13:13 | |
| brousch | you need a hose and you need it now? | 13:14 |
| rick_h | yea, most everything else is arriving today | 13:14 |
| rick_h | but I need the hose to reach the sink in the basement so I can clear our/refill the water easily | 13:14 |
| brousch | it's just a garden hose? | 13:15 |
| rick_h | http://www.amazon.com/Brand-75FT-PYTHON-SPILL-CLEAN/dp/B0002DI06Q/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1329830134&sr=8-4 | 13:15 |
| brousch | oh i see. you need the python hose | 13:16 |
| rick_h | so it's got a sink faucet hookup, and it uses the sink running water to prime/pull the water out of the tank, etc | 13:17 |
| brousch | geezum pete. 75ft of aquarium hose?! | 13:17 |
| rick_h | well, my aquairum is a bit far from the sink atm :/ | 13:17 |
| snap-l | rick_h: That's why God invented buckets. | 13:35 |
| snap-l | and wheels for said buckets. | 13:35 |
| rick_h | snap-l: buckets don't pull water out very well | 13:35 |
| snap-l | No, but siphon hoses do | 13:36 |
| rick_h | I've got 8gal of water in there that's seen a lot of 409 and windex that needs to be thoroughly drawn out | 13:36 |
| rick_h | right, and the python is the best siphon hose :) | 13:36 |
| snap-l | DOn't you dechlorinate your water beforehand in gallon jugs? | 13:36 |
| rick_h | no, after the initial work and setup I'll only fill in 5gal or so a week from the big bottled water from the store | 13:37 |
| brousch | don't you have a pond/creek in the backyard you can pull water from? | 13:37 |
| rick_h | should evaporate about that | 13:37 |
| rick_h | lol | 13:37 |
| brousch | or just siphon the water out the window | 13:38 |
| rick_h | and no, I don't have clorine in the water really due to the community well vs city water | 13:38 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Ah, being a city boy, I always had to use chlorine removal stuff | 13:38 |
| rick_h | you guys are super helpful. Tell you what, why don't I just lift the 80# tank plus the 64# of water in there on my back and dump it outside | 13:38 |
| rick_h | snap-l: I've got some water conditiner, and I've got trace element add-ins for the plants | 13:38 |
| rick_h | but yea, not goign to treat in 1gal increments | 13:39 |
| rick_h | we only deal with 5-10gal increments with anything | 13:39 |
| brousch | just trying to think outside of the $80 hose | 13:39 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Right, I just remember when I had my 10 gallon tank (when I was around 8th grade) taking rinsed milk jugs and leaving them out overnight | 13:39 |
| rick_h | snap-l: ah gotcha | 13:39 |
| rick_h | yea, none of that here | 13:39 |
| snap-l | rick_h is a per-fesh-i-nal | 13:40 |
| snap-l | ;) | 13:40 |
| brousch | profishinal | 13:40 |
| snap-l | That too. :) | 13:40 |
| rick_h | http://www.amazon.com/Hagen-Nutrafin-Aqua-Water-Conditioner/dp/B005JP9PSY/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1329831627&sr=8-6 | 13:41 |
| rick_h | tend to stick that in the new water as it goes in is all | 13:41 |
| snap-l | What? No Tetramin? :) | 13:41 |
| rick_h | actually this http://www.amazon.com/Seachem-433-Prime-500ml/dp/B00025694O/ref=sr_1_4?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1329831715&sr=1-4 | 13:43 |
| snap-l | Am I the only person in the world who can't take King Diamond Seriously? | 14:36 |
| snap-l | (listening to snakenet metal radio, and At The Graves is on) | 14:36 |
| ColonelPanic001 | not familiar | 14:37 |
| snap-l | http://www.snakenetmetalradio.com/default.asp | 14:37 |
| snap-l | brousch: Have you tried https://raw.github.com/xdissent/ievms/master/ievms.sh ? | 14:39 |
| brousch | no, but it looks good | 14:39 |
| brousch | someone has also suggested IETester | 14:39 |
| brousch | http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage | 14:40 |
| snap-l | What's the best way to determine the python type of a sqlalchemy column? | 14:50 |
| snap-l | tried "isinstance(type(meta.metadata.tables['Sample'].columns['phone'].type), String)", but that's returning False | 14:50 |
| rick_h | snap-l: sec | 14:51 |
| snap-l | rick_h: danke | 14:51 |
| rick_h | http://blog.mitechie.com/2010/04/01/hacking-the-sqlalchemy-base-class/ | 14:51 |
| rick_h | snap-l: see the code sample there ^ I check if a column is a DateTime column in there | 14:52 |
| snap-l | Ah, beaut | 14:52 |
| snap-l | I knew this was a solved problem, but damned if I could find it. | 14:53 |
| rick_h | yea, just realize there's already a class String | 14:54 |
| rick_h | so you need sqlalchemy.String | 14:54 |
| rick_h | and you should be using Unicode anyway :P | 14:54 |
| snap-l | RIght, because Python does brilliant things when a first_name is a number. :- | 14:56 |
| snap-l | P | 14:56 |
| snap-l | Also, screw Excel spreadsheets. | 14:56 |
| nullspace | venturi's do an even better job, that way you don't get dirty fish water in your mouth | 14:57 |
| nullspace | why was I an hour back? ehhh need more coffee | 14:58 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Thanks! It's working. | 15:00 |
| snap-l | Now to take over the world. | 15:01 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I've used IETeste, years ago. It worked, more or less | 15:05 |
| rick_h | snap-l: awesome, glad that helped | 15:08 |
| snap-l | I love it when I get too far into a particular paradigm | 15:09 |
| rick_h | nullspace: so the python you hook up to the sink and start that water, it pulls/primes the vacuum | 15:09 |
| rick_h | nullspace: so yea, water in your mouth == bad | 15:09 |
| rick_h | snap-l: ? | 15:09 |
| snap-l | "Gee, why doesn't isinstance([var that might be None], None)" work? :) | 15:09 |
| rick_h | oh heh | 15:10 |
| snap-l | <- dumbass | 15:10 |
| rick_h | yea, in general isinstance is very very bad | 15:10 |
| rick_h | so should be RARELY used | 15:10 |
| rick_h | more want to play with the duck typing nature | 15:10 |
| rick_h | if possible | 15:10 |
| snap-l | Right, but sqlalchemy gets really pissy when you pass an int to a String | 15:11 |
| rick_h | yea, but you're checking something is none? | 15:11 |
| snap-l | Bitches that there's no encode method | 15:11 |
| snap-l | Right, because none also doesn't have an encode method for string | 15:12 |
| rick_h | right, but you can str(Int) and get it an encode method :) | 15:12 |
| rick_h | hmm, right but if you set a default on the str column, and pass it None, it should kick in and use that? | 15:12 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Ahem, yes, but I need to know if this is necessary. | 15:12 |
| rick_h | snap-l: right, that's what try: except is for | 15:12 |
| rick_h | that leaves it open more. If you check isinstance you're limiting only to Strings, but lots of things can implement .encode() that aren't a String class | 15:13 |
| snap-l | Right, but Python can cope with the rest of them. :) | 15:14 |
| snap-l | Python / SQLAlchemy | 15:14 |
| jrwren | i got asked waht are the fundamental datatypes in python... i had no idea. I said i dunno, int, float, string, unicode is separate?, list, hash. | 15:21 |
| jrwren | hehe, i'm nub | 15:21 |
| nullspace | rick_h: it's always about python with you | 15:22 |
| nullspace | :) | 15:22 |
| rick_h | nullspace: :) | 15:22 |
| nullspace | snap-l: arn't ORMs fun? everything is now an object | 15:24 |
| brousch | what else would it be? | 15:25 |
| nullspace | a PITA | 15:26 |
| nullspace | or a giant SQL statment | 15:26 |
| snap-l | nullspace: Actually, the amount of heavy lifting this thing does far outweighs type-conversion work-arounds. :) | 15:26 |
| snap-l | I'll gladly write wrappers if it means I don't have to write a SQL join statement from hell. :) | 15:26 |
| nullspace | I agree | 15:27 |
| rick_h | the coersion stuff is just because you don't have good control on the input | 15:27 |
| nullspace | I <3 my ORM | 15:27 |
| rick_h | which is just going to happen | 15:27 |
| jrwren | nullspace: you using hibernate | 15:30 |
| snap-l | I have had my lead-filled jelly donut for the year. | 15:32 |
| nullspace | cayanne | 15:33 |
| _stink_ | my wife bought a package labeled "cherry" paczki from meijer yesterday... turns out they are all filled with not cherry, but some bizarre cheesy stuff | 15:33 |
| _stink_ | i'm aware my description sounds pretty disgusting | 15:33 |
| _stink_ | and they're not half bad | 15:34 |
| snap-l | _stink_: I love the cheese paczki | 15:34 |
| _stink_ | i would rather have cherry, though. | 15:34 |
| snap-l | Got one with filled with apple | 15:34 |
| _stink_ | yeah, i was surprised it wasn't bad | 15:34 |
| snap-l | tastes like a hostess apple pie | 15:34 |
| _stink_ | heh | 15:34 |
| _stink_ | for health! | 15:34 |
| rick_h | my wife is on a mission for prune ones | 15:35 |
| rick_h | I've been giving her a hard time about it for days | 15:35 |
| _stink_ | haha | 15:35 |
| snap-l | Today I vow to be happy and positive. Just as soon as I gut some random motherfucker for breathing. Then it's all unicorn shit and handjobs. -- Stephen Blackmoore | 15:35 |
| rick_h | evidently she found one other person that loves the idea of a prune one and the two of them have been calling places since friday | 15:35 |
| nullspace | I prefer the blueberry paczki | 15:35 |
| _stink_ | mm, that does sound good. | 15:36 |
| snap-l | rick_h: The idea of prune paczkis is about as appealing as the cherry-nougat Whitman candies. | 15:36 |
| snap-l | ie: you can have my share. | 15:36 |
| nullspace | _stink_: so are these the local kind or the mass producted kind? | 15:37 |
| nullspace | snap-l: how about peach paczki? | 15:37 |
| _stink_ | nullspace: er, whatever meijer carries | 15:37 |
| snap-l | nullspace: Knock yourself out. I'm not a fan of peaches | 15:37 |
| _stink_ | might be local | 15:37 |
| _stink_ | but probably not 'authentic' | 15:37 |
| nullspace | _stink_: father in-law picked up some from a polish bakery where they speak broken english, tasty stuff | 15:38 |
| jrwren | mmm... cheesy stuff. | 15:38 |
| jrwren | its like a cheese danish, but in paczki form. | 15:38 |
| _stink_ | nullspace: that's the way to go. | 15:38 |
| _stink_ | yeah, i guess it was just like a cheese danish. | 15:39 |
| _stink_ | good call. | 15:39 |
| nullspace | _stink_: seriously, there is no excuse for us to suffer non authentic with hamramick being so close | 15:39 |
| jrwren | i was just saying that it MUCH more celebrated and better over in detroit, because of way more polish people. | 15:39 |
| jrwren | here in ann arbor, its practically forgotten. | 15:39 |
| jrwren | seems like someone would always stop in hamtrammik to get some and bring 'em in, when I worked in oakland county. | 15:40 |
| nullspace | jrwren: should pick up some coffee flavored porter and just resign to the fact little will be accomplished today | 15:41 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Well, it's not an hour's drive away both ways. | 15:41 |
| snap-l | jrwren: That, and you'd have to give up a parking spot. | 15:42 |
| _stink_ | shit, WSU is like 5 minutes away from Hammytrammy | 15:42 |
| snap-l | _stink_: And miss out on Olympia or Epicurius Place? | 15:44 |
| _stink_ | haha | 15:45 |
| _stink_ | or Byblos - now with *two* locations! | 15:45 |
| snap-l | God, Epicurius probably has the same ketchup on the tables from when I was there | 15:45 |
| _stink_ | that building survived the big demolition along warren | 15:46 |
| * snap-l does miss the Potato PLace. | 15:46 | |
| _stink_ | i should go there more. | 15:46 |
| snap-l | good gumbo | 15:46 |
| snap-l | _stink_: I think they'd need a hazmat team to demolish that building | 15:46 |
| _stink_ | snap-l: what years were you around here? | 15:46 |
| snap-l | all of that greek grease | 15:47 |
| snap-l | 1993-1994 | 15:47 |
| _stink_ | had the Welcome Center been built yet? | 15:47 |
| _stink_ | probbaly not, then | 15:47 |
| snap-l | No, likely not | 15:47 |
| _stink_ | was Z's on the corner of Woodward/Warren then? | 15:47 |
| snap-l | No | 15:47 |
| _stink_ | aight, just wondered. | 15:47 |
| snap-l | the student union had a Friar Tucks, Tubbys, and Little Caesars | 15:48 |
| snap-l | and an arcade | 15:48 |
| _stink_ | sounds better then than it is now. | 15:48 |
| snap-l | With Samurai Showdown 2 | 15:48 |
| snap-l | The company introduced a new 8 gigabyte Nook tablet on Tuesday for $199 and lowered the price for the Nook Color to $169 from $199. The first version of the tablet cost $249. | 16:46 |
| snap-l | Considering you can only load 1GB of user content on-board, this is not a bad deal | 16:47 |
| brousch | sd card | 16:48 |
| snap-l | Yeah, but I've yet to fill it | 16:48 |
| brousch | and cyanogenmod that thing | 16:48 |
| snap-l | brousch: Getting closer. | 16:48 |
| rick_h | heh, well someone is going for the "overboard title of the year" award: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/pzjay/nodejs_is_stupid_and_if_you_use_it_so_are_you/ | 17:33 |
| rick_h | oh man, and painful to watch...don't know I'll make it through | 17:35 |
| rick_h | and he really comes across as serious, so not getting any humor vibes out of it | 17:39 |
| snap-l | I think there's a point where people will rebel against anything that's considered trendy | 17:41 |
| snap-l | "I can't breathe anymore because too many people ar doing it." | 17:42 |
| snap-l | Node.js is built on lies | 17:44 |
| snap-l | Wow, way to frame an argument | 17:44 |
| snap-l | Javascript is slow? Maybe back in 1995 | 17:45 |
| rick_h | if the guy was giving a mug talk, I'd have walked out and left. I kept waiting for a punchline but never came | 17:45 |
| snap-l | WEll, his basic assumptions are stupid | 17:46 |
| snap-l | God, you could level any of his arguments against any language. | 17:46 |
| snap-l | "Hello, nice video. I couldn't find your arguments. Where can I find them? Thanks" | 17:47 |
| snap-l | Made it 2/3 of the way before I figured the bits could be better used for internet porn | 17:48 |
| rick_h | yes, I can save you that trouble | 17:48 |
| snap-l | Apparently he's a SEO douche too. | 17:54 |
| snap-l | Also enjoys taking candy from children and punching baby seals | 17:55 |
| rick_h | hah | 17:55 |
| brousch | so he helps to fight childhood obesity and is nicer than the people who club baby seals? | 18:03 |
| brousch | not so bad | 18:03 |
| snap-l | Now do you nicely punch a baby seal? | 18:05 |
| snap-l | Apparently you have some life-skills that I currently lack | 18:05 |
| brousch | see, they freak out when you approach, so you punch them just hard enough to daze them. then you can hide them from the seal clubbers | 18:07 |
| brousch | this is a canadian thing. where's tjagoda to back me up? | 18:07 |
| _stink_ | you guys seen this? i'm probably way behind the ball... http://devsigh.com | 18:13 |
| brousch | this ubuntu on android thing is what i dreamed of 7 years ago. a little box you carry around in your pocket and plug into monitors for a full desktop | 18:23 |
| snap-l | http://devsigh.com/sigh/44 | 18:24 |
| brousch | i imagined using NX on a server somewhere with a little terminal client, but ok | 18:24 |
| _stink_ | this one is my favorite so far: http://devsigh.com/sigh/225 | 18:25 |
| greg-g | man I love this 'old' x200s keyboard/screen/build quality | 18:30 |
| greg-g | so, some people don't use gnome-do: can you explain how they are productive by not? | 19:27 |
| brousch | strange. i'm trying to dowload a big file from SF and it keeps killing my wifi | 19:30 |
| brousch | not my laptop's wifi, the wifi router's | 19:31 |
| greg-g | too much ganje in the packets? | 19:31 |
| greg-g | oh, you mean SourceForge ;) | 19:31 |
| greg-g | s/ganje/ganja/ | 19:32 |
| rick_h | greg-g: gmrun | 19:33 |
| greg-g | rick_h: but, can I search for a filename/folder? | 19:37 |
| rick_h | greg-g: no, just a shell to run apps/etc | 19:38 |
| brousch | why is there a goatse at the bottom of this ubuntu page? http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android | 19:38 |
| greg-g | brousch: :) | 19:38 |
| rick_h | if I need to search for anything it's locate and workit to the rescue | 19:38 |
| greg-g | rick_h: yeah, unfortunately, that is about 70% of my gnome-do usage after the first 10 minutes of a reboot | 19:38 |
| greg-g | bah, if only. mine is gnome-do + LibreOffice ;) | 19:38 |
| _stink_ | yeah, i fall on locate/find . a lot | 19:39 |
| greg-g | brousch: Canonical designers having a joke on us | 19:40 |
| brousch | i blame rick_h | 19:40 |
| rick_h | good plan! | 19:40 |
| snap-l | I usually put everything in to a folder under known locations | 19:40 |
| snap-l | projects for coding stuff, documents for writing stuff, and reference for stuff I'll want to refer later on | 19:41 |
| greg-g | snap-l: right, but quickly getting to the location so you can get to a specific file is slow if you just <envoke>nautilus or whatever | 19:41 |
| snap-l | cd projects/ope[tab] | 19:41 |
| * greg-g is a bit more document driven than you crazy coders :P | 19:41 | |
| snap-l | Also, nautilus does text complete | 19:42 |
| snap-l | Click on a folder, and type | 19:42 |
| snap-l | Now that I've said that, it'll be removed two releases from now | 19:42 |
| greg-g | zing! | 19:42 |
| snap-l | Well, seems like anytime I get used to something, it changes in 50% good, and 50% WTF ways. | 19:44 |
| snap-l | Like 11.10 no longer lets you use / to search for a particular path | 19:44 |
| snap-l | (nautilus) | 19:44 |
| snap-l | Bah, and just as soon as I said that, I tried it, and it made me a liar | 19:44 |
| rick_h | thunar ftw | 19:44 |
| rick_h | snap-l: yea, I think that got added back | 19:44 |
| rick_h | it was removed at one point, but the power users ranted and railed | 19:45 |
| snap-l | It's handy as hell | 19:45 |
| snap-l | esp for hidden directories | 19:45 |
| rick_h | right | 19:45 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Now that we've completely talked around your use-case, are you good? :) | 19:46 |
| rick_h | lol | 19:46 |
| greg-g | snap-l: nope! ;) | 19:47 |
| snap-l | Awesome | 19:47 |
| snap-l | np: Eluveitie - Uxellodunon | 19:47 |
| greg-g | actually, I'm just annoyed right now that gnome-do isn't being envoked consistently in Debian | 19:47 |
| snap-l | I think since DBO started working on Unity, Gnome Do got a lot less attention | 19:48 |
| * greg-g nods | 19:48 | |
| greg-g | and RAOF | 19:48 |
| greg-g | Christian Hales-Something | 19:48 |
| snap-l | Was that the gent that we did the laptop-drive for? | 19:49 |
| greg-g | hmmmm | 19:49 |
| greg-g | maybe? | 19:49 |
| rick_h | thought it was DBO | 19:49 |
| greg-g | there's been a few of those in the past 2 years I can't keep them straight | 19:49 |
| rick_h | well DBO was a laptop right? | 19:49 |
| snap-l | Yeah I don't remember offhand | 19:50 |
| snap-l | All I remember was jcastro mentioning something, and suddenly I was typing my credentials into Paypal | 19:51 |
| snap-l | he has that effect on people. | 19:51 |
| greg-g | dangerous | 20:14 |
| jrwren | watching that javascript video... this guy is an idiot. | 20:41 |
| jrwren | hahaha... doesn't understand what blocking is. LOLOLOL | 20:41 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I thought that was precious | 21:02 |
| ColonelPanic001 | wat | 21:03 |
| ColonelPanic001 | blocking is what you do when you park your car infront of another car | 21:03 |
| brousch | hahahahah awesome | 21:27 |
| brousch | i'm running Lubuntu on my nook color | 21:27 |
| snap-l | And? | 21:27 |
| brousch | and it works | 21:27 |
| brousch | some chroot+vnc magic | 21:28 |
| brousch | heh, thunderbird and gimp included | 21:29 |
| brousch | i think it's ubuntu 10.10. let's see if an update destroys it | 21:38 |
| brousch | wow, kind of hard on the battery | 21:40 |
| _stink_ | heh | 21:44 |
| snap-l | Considering normal Ubuntu can be hard on batteries, I'm not surprised. | 21:45 |
| brousch | this is actually a pretty nice way to run it. i get the regular android taskbar, keyboard, and apps along with ubuntu | 21:49 |
| brousch | no silly gnome software keyboard that's a PITA | 21:49 |
| brousch | though i don't think it has much of an advvantage over VNCing to a remote server and using dropbox to sync files | 21:52 |
| jrwren | so are you running lubuntu on your nook or just a vnc client? | 21:59 |
| brousch | lubuntu | 21:59 |
| brousch | but you use vnc to view it | 22:00 |
| brousch | it runs on android | 22:00 |
| _stink_ | like the UI runs on android? | 22:00 |
| _stink_ | on an X session or something? | 22:00 |
| jrwren | VNC to a virtual X | 22:00 |
| brousch | http://goo.gl/UP7Vo | 22:00 |
| brousch | it runs a full lubuntu inside a chroot | 22:01 |
| brousch | but you have to use vnc to view the GUI | 22:01 |
| _stink_ | dizang | 22:01 |
| jrwren | but still just the android-linux kernel. | 22:01 |
| jrwren | ha, that is pretty cool. | 22:01 |
| _stink_ | now fire up eclipse inside lubuntu | 22:02 |
| brousch | oh geez | 22:02 |
| brousch | _stink_: hey, i guess you could develop android apps on android that way! | 22:02 |
| _stink_ | o/ | 22:02 |
| _stink_ | so meta. | 22:02 |
| brousch | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/screenshot-1329861965965.png | 22:03 |
| brousch | imagine running the android emulator inside ubuntu on android | 22:04 |
| brousch | that has to be incredibly painful | 22:04 |
| _stink_ | hahaha | 22:05 |
| _stink_ | i love it | 22:05 |
| brousch | i think i would get about 1-2 hours of usage out of this before the battery ran out | 22:06 |
| brousch | maybe 3 | 22:07 |
| brousch | is this how the new ubuntu on android from canonical works? | 22:08 |
| brousch | the speed is OK even on this single CPU 800MHz, but it's Lubuntu | 22:09 |
| brousch | time to run | 22:09 |
| jcastro | hey rick_h | 22:40 |
| rick_h | jcastro: yep | 22:40 |
| jcastro | is there such thing as a vesa to vesa extender? | 22:40 |
| jcastro | basically .... my arms are as high as they will go | 22:40 |
| rick_h | vesa? | 22:40 |
| rick_h | ah | 22:40 |
| jcastro | but I need another siz inches to raise the panels | 22:40 |
| rick_h | oh hmmm, ugh. | 22:40 |
| jcastro | so I was thinking, a long plate, with holes | 22:41 |
| jcastro | and I just mount it higher. | 22:41 |
| rick_h | how will that get them taller? | 22:41 |
| rick_h | you mean closer to your? | 22:41 |
| jcastro | no, taller | 22:41 |
| jcastro | like, instead of mounting the arm right to the back of the panel | 22:41 |
| rick_h | no, the only thing I could think of would be to bolt a raised shelf on top of the desk | 22:41 |
| jcastro | it's another bracker | 22:41 |
| rick_h | and them move the arms to that shelf | 22:41 |
| rick_h | os like, on my old ikea desk it had a small shelf 8" or so over the main large desk surface | 22:42 |
| rick_h | I stuck my arms to that | 22:42 |
| rick_h | shoot, you could build a simple u-shape with 3 blocks and c-clamp the blocks to the desk and the arms to the top of the new thing | 22:43 |
| rick_h | jcastro: https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1fr_oZ-fT3tcteg7HhslFK0btdUQ6rZXHwHGOUA9A8_g/edit | 22:44 |
| jcastro | hah | 22:45 |
| jcastro | nice artwork | 22:45 |
| rick_h | hey, it's what you get from the kitchen counter while I'm making dinner :P | 22:46 |
| jcastro | this bracket has to exist | 22:47 |
| jcastro | there's no way every single monitor arm is exactly the right size | 22:47 |
| rick_h | I think most people change monitor arms | 22:47 |
| rick_h | get one that has more height limitation, that's the issue with these is that they're cheaper, but not as flexible | 22:47 |
| jcastro | hey rick | 23:24 |
| jcastro | rick_h: you have an aeron right? | 23:24 |
| brousch | ah, cool, he has a 12.04 image in the works http://linuxonandroid.blogspot.com/ | 23:59 |
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