| SamuraiAlba | Good bacon to all!! | 00:36 |
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| === InHisName1 is now known as HowdyDoody | ||
| MutantTurkey | ping pong | 01:07 |
| teddy-dbear | pong ping | 01:16 |
| SamuraiAlba | lol | 01:24 |
| InHisName | king kong | 01:44 |
| SamuraiAlba | woot | 01:45 |
| InHisName | Hey SamuraiAlba, what did you snag from woot.com ? | 01:45 |
| SamuraiAlba | nothing yet | 01:52 |
| SamuraiAlba | I do have an HP rack server tho | 01:52 |
| SamuraiAlba | And I slept behind a holiday inn once | 01:52 |
| SamuraiAlba | no hobo | 01:52 |
| InHisName | I slept under a bridge several different times. | 02:16 |
| waltman | InHisName: What's your Hobo Name? | 02:17 |
| InHisName | Didn't ever have one, bobo maybe ? | 02:18 |
| teddy-dbear | NotInHisName ;-) | 02:18 |
| waltman | InHisHoboName | 02:18 |
| InHisName | SamuraiAlba: did you see the u-tube of Lasagna make with fast food ingredients. 18 big macs, 18 baconaerators, 18 some other fancy sandwich. Lotta layers of bacon, cheese, and + 1 quart of big mac sauce. Layer it all in 10" deep x 24 x 20 baking pan. One of those extreame cooking shows on u-tube. | 02:22 |
| InHisName | DowdyDoody | 02:23 |
| InHisName | SamuraiAlba: this isn't the one but still way over top. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2s0aOhkjmY | 02:49 |
| PennBot | Title: Barbaric Brutal Breakfast - Regular Ordinary Swedish Meal Time - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) | 02:49 |
| tony__ | hiya anyone up... have a probably really simple enlightenment question | 05:15 |
| tony__ | i'm using illume for a tablet...and can't figure out how to show just a wallpaper and not a long collection of icons.. -_- | 05:16 |
| tony__ | googled and they said disabling some module i don't have :/ | 05:16 |
| JonathanD | Morning. | 08:23 |
| rmg51 | morning JonathanD | 09:57 |
| SamuraiAlba | mornin | 10:55 |
| JonathanD | wootoff, btw | 11:13 |
| SamuraiAlba | Mornin! | 11:14 |
| SamuraiAlba | I <3 Pizza! | 11:14 |
| JonathanD | Hey SamuraiAlba | 11:14 |
| SamuraiAlba | Mornin! | 11:15 |
| SamuraiAlba | How is it going? | 11:15 |
| * SamuraiAlba points to shiny semi-new gently used rack | 11:15 | |
| JonathanD | It's going. | 11:15 |
| * SamuraiAlba drools | 11:15 | |
| JonathanD | rack? | 11:15 |
| SamuraiAlba | HP Proliant DL380 G5 | 11:16 |
| SamuraiAlba | Dual Quad Xeon :) | 11:16 |
| SamuraiAlba | Now running ... | 11:16 |
| SamuraiAlba | Ubuntu Server! | 11:16 |
| SamuraiAlba | now at BASH PROMPT! | 11:16 |
| SamuraiAlba | sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop... | 11:16 |
| SamuraiAlba | 21 minutes to go LOL | 11:17 |
| SamuraiAlba | I V3 prompts, but I need a gui | 11:19 |
| SamuraiAlba | *<3 | 11:19 |
| SamuraiAlba | now to get Teamspeak server and CS:Source server... | 11:20 |
| MutantTurkey | zzzz | 13:01 |
| teddy-dbear | morning | 13:09 |
| MutantTurkey | hey oh | 14:32 |
| ChinnoDog | gobble gobble | 14:45 |
| MutantTurkey | ping ponger | 14:51 |
| ChinnoDog | eat more bacon | 14:52 |
| adom | morning champs | 14:57 |
| MutantTurkey | trying to implement mac like application switching in twin today | 14:59 |
| MutantTurkey | that's my goal | 14:59 |
| MutantTurkey | should be easy | 15:05 |
| MutantTurkey | xlib has a built in atom for wm_class | 15:05 |
| MutantTurkey | basically a check if the other windows fit the current window class | 15:05 |
| MutantTurkey | nvm who wrote this crappy code | 15:36 |
| MutantTurkey | I'm out | 15:36 |
| MutantTurkey | time to go hangout with better coders... | 15:37 |
| MutantTurkey | kwin is the crappiest bloatiest crap of all time | 16:13 |
| MutantTurkey | C++ is the crappiest bloatiest crap of all time | 16:13 |
| * waltman confesses he kinda likes C++ | 16:15 | |
| waltman | Java's way crappier and bloated than C++ | 16:15 |
| * EvilResistance gets PennBot to slap MutantTurkey | 16:16 | |
| EvilResistance | hmm | 16:16 |
| MutantTurkey | c++ is crap | 16:16 |
| EvilResistance | factoids might be a problem... | 16:16 |
| MutantTurkey | it's so inconsitant and overly compicated | 16:16 |
| * EvilResistance has been debugging the code, but cant figure out where its breaking | 16:16 | |
| MutantTurkey | I don't need to use object oriented bloat classes for every single structure... | 16:16 |
| MutantTurkey | I don't need all this bloaty crap. | 16:16 |
| MutantTurkey | not to mention the kde3 developers bloat the crap out of everything | 16:17 |
| EvilResistance | @bacon is <reply>BACON! | 16:17 |
| PennBot | I hear ya! | 16:17 |
| MutantTurkey | bacon? | 16:17 |
| PennBot | BACON | 16:17 |
| EvilResistance | w00t | 16:17 |
| EvilResistance | ... i think... | 16:17 |
| waltman | I used to feel that way about C++, too. But two things happened soon after I started here at Drexel. First, I went to a talk by Bjarne Stroudstroup at Penn on how C++ is a better C than C. Second, I met a now-former PhD student who was a C++ guru. | 16:17 |
| waltman | Now the scales have fallen from my eyes. | 16:17 |
| EvilResistance | *ssh's into the system* | 16:18 |
| waltman | the stuff in STL is pretty awesome. | 16:18 |
| waltman | Not that there's not sucky stuff in C++, of course. But when I'm writing my own C++ code I can generally stick to the non-sucky parts. | 16:19 |
| EvilResistance | @no bacon is <reply>The Almighty Food of Godliness | 16:20 |
| PennBot | 10-4. | 16:20 |
| EvilResistance | bacon? | 16:20 |
| PennBot | BACON | 16:20 |
| EvilResistance | bleh | 16:20 |
| MutantTurkey | http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/ | 16:20 |
| PennBot | Title: C++ is Good for the Economy, It Creates Jobs! (at harmful.cat-v.org) | 16:20 |
| MutantTurkey | enjoy | 16:20 |
| EvilResistance | @forget bacon | 16:20 |
| PennBot | I hear ya, EvilResistance. | 16:20 |
| EvilResistance | bacon? | 16:20 |
| EvilResistance | :P | 16:20 |
| MutantTurkey | Alternatives: Thowing yourself into an active volcano | 16:20 |
| EvilResistance | @bacon is <reply>The Almighty Food of Godliness | 16:20 |
| PennBot | I hear ya, EvilResistance. | 16:21 |
| EvilResistance | bacon? | 16:21 |
| PennBot | The Almighty Food of Godliness | 16:21 |
| EvilResistance | :) | 16:21 |
| EvilResistance | it works! | 16:21 |
| MutantTurkey | @bacon is <reply> The Almighty Food of the Gods | 16:21 |
| PennBot | ... but bacon is <reply>The Almighty Food of Godliness ... | 16:21 |
| MutantTurkey | that is a more appropriate answer | 16:21 |
| MutantTurkey | they said i could become anything so I became God. | 16:21 |
| EvilResistance | @forget bacon | 16:21 |
| PennBot | Gotcha! | 16:21 |
| MutantTurkey | waltman: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/OO_programming/ | 16:21 |
| PennBot | Title: Object Oriented Programming is Inherently Harmful (at harmful.cat-v.org) | 16:21 |
| EvilResistance | @bacon is <reply>The Almighty Food of the Gods! | 16:21 |
| PennBot | 10-4, EvilResistance. | 16:21 |
| waltman | Yeah, OOP can definitely get out of hand. Cocoa and iOS, for instance, where you've got to dig through a dozen levels of objects to find where the method you want is defined. | 16:23 |
| waltman | MutantTurkey: Ever try to work with 2d or 3d arrays in C? They suck. In C++ I created a 2d array object lets you encapsulate all the crap with pointers so you're just passing one thing around. | 16:25 |
| waltman | And because of inlining it's just as efficient as regular code. Maybe moreso, since in my object you know you've always just got a big contiguous block of memory. | 16:26 |
| MutantTurkey | what's wrong with pointers and why aren't you using structure? | 16:28 |
| MutantTurkey | I understand there are definitely use cases for it of course | 16:29 |
| MutantTurkey | but blanket slapping it on ever project is ridiculous | 16:29 |
| waltman | I'm not sure what you mean by structure. That's what would be stored inside each element in the 2d array. And since C++ supports templates, one generic 2darray class can be used to arrays of ints, doubles, or Foos. | 16:36 |
| MutantTurkey | can't you do a similar thing with structs and functions as what classes do? | 16:42 |
| waltman | Generally in C you do multidimensional arrays by creating an array of pointers. But they suck, because they're hard to define and you've got to remember to alloc and free the memory. C++ lets you encapsulate all that. | 16:55 |
| waltman | MutantTurkey: You can. That's what the stdio library does with file pointers. But it's nice sometimes to have the methods and data all in one place. | 16:56 |
| MutantTurkey | right on | 16:56 |
| MutantTurkey | you should just use a matrix library then :-) | 16:57 |
| waltman | Compare doing matrix math in something like newmat vs blas :) | 16:59 |
| waltman | or even gsl, which gives you a wrapper around blas. | 17:00 |
| MutantTurkey | isn't blas terribly slow? | 17:01 |
| * MutantTurkey vague memory | 17:02 | |
| waltman | No, blas is pretty much the gold standard in speed. It's what matlab uses, for instance. | 17:03 |
| waltman | It's highly tuned fortran code. | 17:03 |
| waltman | But it's hard to use because the function calls have like a zillion options. | 17:04 |
| waltman | You can use those to make it run EVEN FASTER (there's a project at Drexel called ATLAS that does that) but it makes it hard for an end user to use directly. | 17:04 |
| MutantTurkey | i thought matlab is crap too... | 17:12 |
| MutantTurkey | :p | 17:12 |
| * MutantTurkey is going to shut up | 17:13 | |
| MutantTurkey | wooop | 18:11 |
| JonathanD | hi MutantTurkey | 18:12 |
| MutantTurkey | hi :-) | 18:12 |
| === cythes is now known as cythes|afk | ||
| ChinnoDog | ubuntu for android. yay | 19:22 |
| ChinnoDog | that is only cool if it doesn't consume massive amounts of resources and slow the phone to a crawl | 19:23 |
| Sadin | grrrrr i need to reinstall my VPS operating system but im undecided between debian or CentOS | 20:15 |
| MutantTurkey | debian. | 20:23 |
| MutantTurkey | DUH | 20:23 |
| MutantTurkey | NEXT | 20:23 |
| MutantTurkey | @next | 20:23 |
| PennBot | I have no idea! | 20:23 |
| MutantTurkey | @next is <reply> Another Satisfied Customer! NEXT! | 20:23 |
| PennBot | Okay. | 20:23 |
| MutantTurkey | @next | 20:23 |
| PennBot | Another Satisfied Customer! NEXT | 20:23 |
| Sadin | hmmmm went with CentOS 6 | 20:25 |
| Sadin | support RedHat more | 20:25 |
| MutantTurkey | Sadin: what why? | 20:30 |
| MutantTurkey | why do you need to support Redhat? | 20:30 |
| MutantTurkey | debian is the obvious server choice... | 20:31 |
| Sadin | @sadin is <reply> A dude who loves Fedora and supports Redhat/Fedora/CentOS all the way. | 20:32 |
| PennBot | 10-4. | 20:32 |
| Sadin | @sadin | 20:32 |
| PennBot | A dude who loves Fedora and supports Redhat/Fedora/CentOS all the way | 20:32 |
| Sadin | :D | 20:32 |
| Sadin | besides debian and centOS are equals one is dpkg though and one is rpm | 20:32 |
| MutantTurkey | why do you always check it? | 20:38 |
| MutantTurkey | Sadin: I think it's a bit more complicated than that :p | 20:38 |
| Sadin | With a server os yu want something with big release cycle and is stable. | 20:39 |
| Sadin | Debian or CentOS are the only thing that pop in my mind | 20:39 |
| Sadin | no offence to ubuntu but id rather use its origin | 20:39 |
| MutantTurkey | that's crazy | 20:42 |
| MutantTurkey | what you wantis arch | 20:42 |
| MutantTurkey | bleeding edge and probably going to break. | 20:42 |
| MutantTurkey | :p | 20:42 |
| MutantTurkey | next | 20:42 |
| MutantTurkey | @next | 20:42 |
| PennBot | Another Satisfied Customer! NEXT | 20:42 |
| jedijf | phrik thief | 22:48 |
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