[00:21] <Sarvatt> damn, forgot about the x11-apps bustage before FF
[00:21] <Sarvatt> i just just distro patch the current one is the way to go now?
[00:21] <Sarvatt> there's a bug where there was a typo in the recommends preventing upgrades
[00:23] <Sarvatt> i updated to new versions for packages in debian git but its not released, was going to sync it but it doesn't look important enough for a freeze exception
[00:25] <Sarvatt> wow, http://www.bryceharrington.org/Arsenal/Reports/ubuntu-x-swat/totals-precise-workqueue.svg
[00:26] <Sarvatt> pretty sure https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/926379 is hiz fail that might be fixed in mesa 8.0.1, getting a lot of dupes
[00:27] <RAOF> Sarvatt: Yeah.  Some of those xorg-server bugs shouldn't be on the workqueue; they're protocol requests.
[00:27] <RAOF> But xorg-server's been gathering no moss :(
[00:29] <Sarvatt> i'll ask the debian guys if its ok to push 8.0.1 to git in the morning and merge that over, 8.0+ needs some /etc/drirc installation that i dont see in the debian branch yet
[00:29] <Sarvatt> or else unigine will be busted and our QA runs those unigine benchmarks
[00:31] <Sarvatt> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?h=8.0&id=b5efe0881ed385de36fa2f4889e1dd962990420a
[02:00] <RAOF> cnd: Valgrind on the server doesn't appear to point to any smoking-gun; there's some read-after-free in the intel driver, some jump-based-on-uninitialised-values that appear harmlessish, and a whole bunch of ioctl noise, but nothing that would point to memory corruption.
[09:41] <Daviey> Hola, anyone noticing oddities with multi-touch trackpads?  Selecting text, and left click becoming unusable ?
[09:43] <bryceh> yeah
[09:44] <bryceh> Daviey, guessing it's due to the new input stack.  cnd might know more.
[09:44] <Daviey> bryceh: it's making me cry.
[09:45] <Daviey> cnd: please help clear my tears.. :)
[09:45] <bryceh> Daviey, on my laptops when it happens, then generally desktop swapping or rebooting seems to help
[09:45] <Daviey> bryceh: i find leaving it for 30 seconds resolves it, but it's making my workspeed suck :)
[09:45] <bryceh> Daviey, mm
[09:45] <bryceh> Daviey, tell cnd your LP bug #
[09:46] <Daviey> compiz is using 35% CPU :)
[09:46] <bryceh> Daviey, well compiz cpu usage != X issue
[09:46] <Daviey> bryceh: I'm yet to report a bug, as currently it would be "multitouch mouse does weird things".. not even sure what package to report it against.
[09:46] <Daviey> bryceh: right, i know /that/
[09:48] <bryceh> Daviey, yes "weird" is an anti-report word, but if it seems specific to MT, then may well be something cnd cares about.
[09:48] <bryceh> if in doubt, report against 'xorg'
[09:49] <bryceh> at least that way it'll include the log files an so on we care about.  We're not at all shy about reassigning if we don't think it's an X bug.  ;-)
[09:50] <bryceh> Daviey, a really useful bit of info would be if you can think back to when the behavior first _started_
[09:50] <bryceh> coupled with your /var/log/dpkg.log (which 'ubuntu-bug xorg' typically includes), that can help in isolating what package regressed.
[09:51] <cnd> Daviey, what is your trackpad?
[09:51] <Daviey> bryceh: sadly, i didn't update granular enough, but certainly within the last 8 days of uploads :)
[09:51] <bryceh> although I suspect in this case it's going to finger the X server update (which has an even newer input stack)
[09:51] <Daviey> that certainly was in the apt-get update session of updates..
[09:52] <bryceh> Daviey, even 8 days can at least bracket it; we don't update X *so* often.
[09:52] <Daviey> bryceh: xorg was certainly in the session of updates i performed 
[09:55] <Daviey> bryceh / cnd: bug 937654
[09:55] <bryceh> Daviey, thanks
[09:56] <cnd> Daviey, my guess is you have entered "locked drag" mode
[09:56] <cnd> Daviey, do you have tap to click enabled?
[09:56] <Daviey> cnd: hmm
[09:56] <Daviey> cnd: forgive me, but how would i check?
[09:57] <cnd> Daviey, mouse settings
[09:57] <cnd> but you should know :)
[09:57] <cnd> if you tap on the trackpad to perform a click
[09:57] <Daviey> cnd: i think i tried to enable it last year, but not touched mouse settings since
[09:58] <bryceh> Daviey, also, you have some obsolete settings in your xorg.conf; try moving aside your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or at least commenting out the Driver "kbd" and  Driver "mouse" bits.
[09:58] <cnd> Daviey, the magic trackpad is very sensitive
[09:58] <cnd> it might be that you are accidentally tapping
[09:58] <cnd> and when you tap in precise, it locks the mouse button down
[09:58] <cnd> you have to tap again to release
[09:59] <cnd> this allows for dragging longer than the size of your trackpad
[10:01] <Daviey> cnd: yeah, that is the feature i wanted... but not how it was previously.. has it 'improved'?
[10:01] <Daviey> bryceh: going to move it out of the way
[10:01] <Daviey> brb
[10:02] <cnd> Daviey, yeah, I guess it's improved :)
[10:02] <bryceh> heya cnd
[10:02] <cnd> bryceh, hey
[10:02] <bryceh> cnd, glad to be done with the Oregon winter rain?
[10:05] <Daviey> cnd: right, seems gently tapping left does break out of the mode.. but as soon as i scroll using two fingers, it re-enters the mode.
[11:44] <cnd> RAOF, did you hit the crash while under valgrind?
[11:45] <cnd> I have seen an invalid write out of bounds under one valgrind run
[11:45] <cnd> however, I didn't have the dbg symbols and I've lost the trace and stuff
[11:45] <cnd> so I'm trying to reproduce, but I haven't been able to
[20:18] <cnd> bryceh, I have a fix for the random crashers and crashers on disconnect of a magic trackpad
[20:19] <cnd> it's a clean fix, but it hasn't been exhaustively tested, and I'll be on flights coming home tomorrow
[20:19] <cnd> I would suggest that I upload it, and if you could watch for any breakage and revert that would be good.
[20:19] <cnd> what do you think?
[20:20] <bryceh> cnd, sure sounds good
[20:20] <cnd> k
[20:21] <cnd> bryceh, btw, it's a fix in synaptics
[20:25] <bryceh> cnd, alright, will keep an eye out
[21:54] <RAOF> cnd: No, I haven't hit the crash under valgrind.
[21:54] <RAOF> cnd: Oh, I see you've found and fixed it.  Superb!
[23:14] <sforshee> would it be possible to get someone to take a look at bug 933710? At a fundamental level the problem is caused by the x video drivers not supporting the randr ConnectorType property for outputs, and I'd like to know whether it's likely for this to get fixed in x soon or if the fallback heuristic used by gnome need to be patched.
[23:15] <RAOF> sforshee: I'll have a look shortly.
[23:16] <sforshee> RAOF, thanks