[00:00] <Wiz_KeeD> has anyone every had a problem like this, and how can i supply more information to you guys?
[00:02] <zykotick9> luist: 1) it's dpkg not apt-get to install DEBs manually 2) if you double click it does it not open in a GUI installer (this is a question)?
[00:02] <luist> zykotick9: oh yes.. how can i install with the GUI installer but running from the command line?
[00:03] <zykotick9> luist: no idea, never done it ;)  good luck.
[00:03] <luist> zykotick9: haha thanks!!
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: install xfce4  see if its better there...
[00:03] <Wiz_KeeD> what's that?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: you have a lost of apps on the bar on the left hand side of the screen, yes?
[00:04] <zykotick9> !xfce | Wiz_KeeD
[00:04] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, yes i do you are right
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: then you are running unity, try xfce, see ifit is more stable and/or more to your liking
[00:05] <Wiz_KeeD> that sounds like quite some large change...
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: install the package:  xfce4    log off, then log in to the xfce session
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: its not really a change, you will still have unity and so on still instaled
[00:06] <_Marcus> How do I make a user able to access EVERYTHING in /home
[00:06] <anonymousinuk> action parsnip how do i start chat up with someone who ive meet previously ?
[00:06] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm a bit reluctant to make major changes due to the fact that i'm not so used with the linux enviroment...is there any way i can switch back if i don't like it? and how will this affect the restart problem? changing the desktop
[00:06] <tomvolek> newbie question, I need to directory which is owned by user tom to be also writeable by http upload .. ,
[00:07] <NyLes> is there a disadvantage if i install ubuntu in a extended partition?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> anonymousinuk: start talking at them, use TAB to autocomplete names ;)
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: none at all
[00:07] <zykotick9> NyLes: no
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: is it owned by a dfferent user?
[00:07] <anonymousinuk> there not in this room though
[00:08] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: I don't know what you mean. I want him to be able to read and write to everything in /home/*
[00:08] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: zykotick9 thanks, im getting paranoid about that :D
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> anonymousinuk: then you can use the:  /whois    command
[00:08] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: That includes inside people's home directories
[00:08] <jack1> Ive tried everything cannot get detection for "airmon-ng"
[00:08] <reten> una pregunta es mejor 11.10 que el 10.10}
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: that is default, they will have read access
[00:08] <_Marcus> !es | reten
[00:09] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip?
[00:09] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: I want them to have write access too.
[00:09] <jack1> any ideas why
[00:09] <NyLes> can yu guys please inform me whats the different of logical and primary partition?
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: sudo apt-get install xfce4     then log off and log on to the xfce session
[00:09] <Wiz_KeeD> and if i want to switch back? :)
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: logical partitions are stored in extended parttions as you can only have 4 primary partitions
[00:10] <nitinthewiz> Hey all… I have ubuntu 11.10 installed on a desktop with just 1 gig ram. I prefer working from my Mac, so I screen share to get to the ubuntu. Due to the low RAM, ubuntu is painfully slow. I'm looking for ways to remove all system animations. Google hasn't been clear about gconf/dconf and all sorts of issues people have when they break something and spend hours fixing it. Can someone point me to a clear-cut solution?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: log off and log back into the Unity session...
[00:10] <_Marcus> WizKeeD: Just select what you want when you log back in
[00:10] <myraft> hello
[00:10] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: I want them to have write access too, what could I do?
[00:10] <Wiz_KeeD> superb i shall try then!
[00:10] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: that's the only difference?
[00:11] <myraft> I have ubuntu 11 running on my laptop - but have a "random-ness" about detecting keyboard and mouse - external keyboard and mouse works just fine
[00:11] <myraft> I basically have to power it down and restart and have no idea how to diagnose it
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: I suggest you make a group, add them to the group then run:  sudo chown -R :groupname /home/foldername; sudo chmod -R g+rw /home/folder
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: yes, so you can have 3 primary partitions and 1 extended partitions which can have as many logical partitions as you can need
[00:13] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: What about "user:" instead of ":group"?
[00:13] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: thanks for the information lo, that's why i have 1 extended partition it all my other partitions are there, i already have 3 primary partions, thank you so much..
[00:14] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: And this for for the whole /home/, not just one folder in it
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: the group you make..
[00:14] <Wiz_KeeD> ok
[00:14] <Wiz_KeeD> here goes
[00:14] <myraft> anyone have an idea how to diagnose the laptop keyboard / mouse randomly working (as stated, external works fine).
[00:14] <myraft> ?
[00:15] <wiz_> i see no difference...
[00:17] <wiz_> i logged out, logged in and it's the same thing
[00:18] <wiz_> ActionParsnip? :)
[00:20] <joe-generic> \quit
[00:20] <OerHeks> mycraft did you search for your laptop model ?
[00:21] <myraft> @oerheks: did a lot of google
[00:21] <myraft> did not see anything relevant
[00:21] <slackguru> Does anyone know if, after performing a lucid debootstrap install on a chrooted system, configuring networking to work on reboot, adding repos, updating apt and installing linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic-pae and then successfully booting the bootstrap system if all that is left to be done is apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[00:21] <chaospsychex> hi
[00:21] <myraft> @OerHeks:it is as if the drivers randomly won't load
[00:21] <chaospsychex> theres a new ##linux-config channel!
[00:22] <god-zotac> whats the deal with grub not showing the menu at boot everytime?  I have done 3 diff ubuntu 11.10 installs and one 12.04 install, and they all just go black screen after POST and then the screen kicks back on at the initialization of X.. i don't like this and would like to know how to change it.
[00:22] <OerHeks> myraft, what is the model/number ?
[00:22] <NyLes> what will i put to Mount Point: option?
[00:22] <slackguru> god-zotac, grub menu is not necessary with a single kernel installed
[00:23] <slackguru> god-zotac, you can always manually edit grub.conf
[00:23] <god-zotac> slackguru:: i have more than a single kernel installed. and i don't like the idea that grub isn't showing the menu incase the kernel fails to boot in the future, or i'd like to see to be able to boot a diff kernel
[00:23] <myraft> OerHeks:Toshiba Satellite L775D-S7222 17.3" Laptop
[00:23] <god-zotac> slackguru:: i have manually edited the grub.conf.. want me to pastebin it and let you see what it looks like?
[00:24] <slackguru> god-zotac, yeah, I'm with you on liking the menu to be default.
[00:24] <NyLes> do i need to specify it? or  just leave it blank?
[00:25] <slackguru> nah god-zotac it would be a waste at this point for me to look at it, I haven't got the hardware for oneiric or precise, I am running oneiric on this machine, but it's through dist-upgrade
[00:25] <wiz_> can anyone tell me how i can erase the "recently used"?
[00:25] <slackguru> god-zotac, I'm trying to figure out what to install on an older system after I get a working bootsrap installed with networking support
[00:26] <slackguru> I think all I need to do to get gui is to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop but still not sure.
[00:26] <chaospsychex> ##linux-config . now need ops/voice members!
[00:27] <wiz_> can anyone tell me how i can erase the "recently used"?
[00:27] <god-zotac> slackguru:: yea that should pull in all the dependencies for the desktop, thats the metapackage for unity
[00:28] <slackguru> installing lucid LTS on that older machine god-zotac
[00:28] <slackguru> nowhere near ready for unity on that machine god-zotac it has one bank of ecc memory and one bank of non-ecc, lmao
[00:29] <NyLes> im stuck please answer me :(
[00:29] <slackguru> the memory mismatch is why I can't do a standard CD install on that machine god-zotac
[00:29] <god-zotac> this is really driving me crazy, because i like to use customized kernels, and be able to boot a kernel compiled for proprietary fglrx driver, or one that is built for the radeon open source driver, and I also like to have the option to boot another OS visible,  i can't figure out what is wrong here with grub2 that it isn't showing the menu for me at all
[00:29] <Antares> Is there any way to force powertop to save its tuning settings? They are lost each time I restart. :/
[00:30] <slackguru> NyLes, what partition are you formatting?
[00:30] <slackguru> NyLes, if you are formatting the / partition that is your mountpoint
[00:30] <NyLes> slackguru: the main, i will install ubuntu there..
[00:30] <slackguru> NyLes, if you are formatting the /boot partition then /boot is your mountpoint
[00:30] <myraft> @OerHeks: not sure if I missed something
[00:30] <myraft> @OerHeks:any ideas ?
[00:31] <slackguru> then your mountpoint for the main partition is /
[00:31] <NyLes> slackguru: thanks ^^
[00:31] <slackguru> Sure NyLes
[00:31] <chaospsychex> MonkeyDust: i was about to tell you that you are the first user to join my channel and you recieve a FREE prize!
[00:32] <chaospsychex> MonkeyDust: a slap in the face! lol
[00:32] <chaospsychex> just kidding
[00:32] <MonkeyDust> chaospsychex  a FREE operating systemN
[00:32] <OerHeks> myraft, i read some issues for Toshiba Satellite L775D general, but no solutions except a Arch comment > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Toshiba_Satellite_L775D_S7340#Touchpad_and_keyboard_are_not_working
[00:32] <MonkeyDust> ?
[00:32] <chaospsychex> MonkeyDust: it's called ubuntu, go to ubuntu.com to download
[00:33] <OerHeks> myraft, my linux knowledge is to average to say this could work
[00:33] <myraft> @OerHeks:so basically, when it does not work, I will need to power it down and pull out the battery, wait and hope things work
[00:34] <myraft> @OerHeks: actually I am looking at what you found - and interesting - I might try it
[00:34] <OerHeks> myraft, let us know.
[00:34] <myraft> @OerHeks: it is so random - but will do
[00:35] <myraft> thanks for the help though
[00:35] <OerHeks> myraft, i will keep on reading further
[00:35] <staniki> hey guys, using 11.10 and my display suddenly went unrecognized and the greatest resolution I can select is 1024 x 768 when it was 1920 x 1080 previously
[00:36] <myraft> @OerHeks: according to the site, it i should see a menu list in /boot/grub
[00:36] <myraft> don't have that file
[00:37] <txtzttm> can anyone point me in the right direction to get some help with mounting a hfs+ external hdd in 11.10?
[00:37] <psusi> myraft, the site is out of date... grub2 uses grub.cfg, which is auto generated by update-grub, not menu.lst
[00:38] <wchan_> after I did an apt-get upgrade of xubuntu-desktop and a kernel update .... my X no longer runs... i tried reboot via grub to select the old kerenl and still nothing. any suggestions? i can still login to ttyl but just no X
[00:38] <YellowGTO> Can you load ATi and Nvidia driver at the same time?
[00:38] <myraft> @psusi: so do I edit any file
[00:38] <psusi> myraft, for?
[00:38] <YellowGTO> in Ubuntu
[00:38] <Guest7412> How to I update drivers in ubuntu?
[00:39] <myraft> @psusi: - to put this line according to the site - i8042.nomux=1 i8042.reset
[00:39] <psusi> Guest7412, the update manager will tell you when there are things to update
[00:39] <Antares> Guest7412, which drivers?
[00:39] <sLevin> ubuntu-br
[00:39] <myraft> @psusi: basically, my problem is randomly the laptop keyboard and mouse will not work
[00:39] <Guest7412> AMD Processor
[00:39] <myraft> but the external ones work all the time.
[00:40] <psusi> myraft, if you want to edit kernel arguments, they go in /etc/default/grub in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT variable
[00:40] <Antares> Processors do not need drivers.
[00:40] <wchan_> how can i change the grub.cfg (grub2) to boot off a default entry in a "submenu"
[00:41] <Zac_o_O> what is everyone using to back up their ubuntu server?
[00:41] <YellowGTO> Can you load ATi and Nvidia driver at the same time?
[00:41] <_Marcus> Hi. For some reasons we can create, read, and edit files over SSH, but we can't do any of that over FTP. Any idea why?
[00:41] <psusi> Zac_o_O, I prefer dump, most people use tar
[00:42] <Antares> YellowGTO, what do you mean?
[00:42] <psusi> _Marcus, because you didn't install and configure an ftp server ( correctly )?
[00:42] <god-zotac> slackguru:: i got it working halfway decent now.. i had to change some weird options
[00:42] <YellowGTO> Run two cards at the same time
[00:42] <wchan_> how can i change the grub.cfg (grub2) to boot off a default entry in a "submenu"
[00:42] <_Marcus> psusi: I did "sudo apt-get install vsftpd"
[00:42] <Guest7412> There is a box that says Additional Drivers No proprietary drivers are in use on this system. When I activate the ATI/AMD proprietary Graphic driver I get a discuting watermark why is this please help.
[00:42] <_Marcus> psusi: I did that on another server, and it was fine.
[00:42] <YellowGTO> http://mddrop.com/index.php/5450
[00:43] <psusi> _Marcus, and are you logging in as a user with the correct permissions?
[00:43] <YellowGTO> Like you can in windows
[00:43] <staniki> hey guys having a problem with my resolution it suddenly shrunk in the middle of a session and even after restart it won't go back to they way it was at install. I have a 22" monitor and was previously using resolution 1920x1080 now I only get a max of 1024x768
[00:43] <Ja23> Help, I have a dead Ubuntu.  It came after updating Wine and changing some themes, the error I get on boot is "Aggregation not enabled for tid 0 because load = 1"
[00:43] <myraft> @psusi:@oheherk
[00:43] <slackguru> glad to hear it god-zotac
[00:43] <myraft> I changed the grub file in /etc/default
[00:44] <psusi> myraft, then run sudo update-grub
[00:44] <Antares> I wasn't aware that was possible, YellowGTO. You have both cards currently inserted, but you are unable to install drivers for them?
[00:44] <myraft> @psusi: - I did that, I am getting - /etc/default/grub: 38: i8042.nomux=1: not found
[00:44] <Zac_o_O> psusi: think rsync'ing my / directory would be a good solution?
[00:45] <Zac_o_O> does anyone use rdiff?
[00:45] <YellowGTO> I dont have linux on this PC yet Antares I want to make sure it will work before installing
[00:45] <YellowGTO> But on Windows I do use both
[00:45] <slackguru> apt-get is in the process of installing ununtu-desktop trying to install ubuntu totally remotely via ssh, so far so good god-zotac
[00:45] <YellowGTO> http://mddrop.com/index.php/20120220_141404
[00:45] <psusi> Zac_o_O, sure, if you have a destination large enough that you can access online
[00:46] <Zac_o_O> online?
[00:46] <Zac_o_O> can't i rdiff to a local drive?
[00:46] <mnbv0987> how do i disable wifi roaming in ubuntu 11.10?
[00:46] <Guest7412> Is someone going to answer my Q? Please when I actived the amd processor I get a watermark that look discusting please help
[00:46] <_Marcus> psusi: I couldn't even edit anything in my directory
[00:46] <psusi> Zac_o_O, online in the sense that it is connected and on line, not online in the sense of the Internet
[00:47] <Antares> YellowGTO, I'm not even sure which search settings I can even begin to use so I can Google your question. I don't know the answer off the top of my head, unfortunately.
[00:47] <psusi> Zac_o_O, as in not tape drives or dvds or removable hard disks that you store most of off site
[00:47] <clarkimusmax> Hello, I'm new here (not new to linux).  Can anyone tell me the difference between the priority and niceness fields in 'top'? As I understand it the PR is the scheduling priority. Is there a way to tweak this or is tweaking the niceness the best thing to do?
[00:47] <YellowGTO> Antares, I guess I can just try LoL
[00:48] <YellowGTO> Thanks anyway
[00:48] <psusi> _Marcus, are you logged in as a proper user, or anonymous?  btw, ftp should be avoided since it's insecure
[00:48] <Antares> YellowGTO, I don't remember whether you can see which drivers you are able to install while using the "Try Ubuntu" mode, but you can do the Live CD business without installing.
[00:48] <YellowGTO> Ah ill try that 1st
[00:48] <Antares> It would be impressive if Additional Drivers offers you both sets of drivers.
[00:48] <_Marcus> psusi: Then I'll use sftp, but for now, it doesn't matter. It is a proper user, named "webmaster"
[00:49] <dotnull> Does anyone know the equivalent program to gnome-power-settings in ubuntu 11.10? I used to execute that program to deal with screen brightness, etc, but it doesn't seem to be in 11.10
[00:49] <Zac_o_O> ah got it
[00:49] <mnbv0987> clarkimusmax: priority is calculated based on niceness and other magic factors
[00:50] <mnbv0987> clarkimusmax: change the niceness if youre just trying to "casually" bump up priority. the kernel will choose a priority based on that and other factors.
[00:50] <Zac_o_O> so rdiff to a local source that gets rotated weekly... good choice?
[00:50] <Antares> dotnull, I'm not sure which options are in gnome-power-settings. There is powertop which can enable power saving for USB ports, WiFi, etc.
[00:50] <clarkimusmax> mnbv0987, thanks, I figured that was the case
[00:50] <myraft> @psusi - how do I change or based on what is recommended here - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Toshiba_Satellite_L775D_S7340#Touchpad_and_keyboard_are_not_working
[00:50] <psusi> Zac_o_O, with things like tar and dump, you can make backups, then for instance, email them or drop them on one or more dvds or removable hard drives to store off site, and you don't need the old ones handy to make an incremental backup
[00:51] <clarkimusmax> trying to copy 147G from a USB drive to /
[00:51] <Zac_o_O> or if I go with rsync - what directories do I need to leave out of rsyncing / ? /proc /sys /dev .....right?
[00:51] <psusi> myraft, thought you said you already did?
[00:51] <Zac_o_O> i see
[00:51] <Zac_o_O> good to know
[00:52] <myraft> @psusi:I did edit /etc/default/grub
[00:52] <mnbv0987> clarkimusmax: the usb is probably more of a bottleneck than cpu usage; don't be disappointed if you don't see a big improvement.
[00:52] <psusi> Zac_o_O, at least.. it's generally easier to tell the tool to stick to only a single filesystem... I forget what the switch was for rsync... for cp it's -x, may be the same for rsync
[00:52] <myraft> @psusi: sudo update-grub gives this - /etc/default/grub: 38: i8042.nomux=1: not found
[00:52] <Zac_o_O> ah i see
[00:53] <staniki> has anyone ever had luck fixing an issure in 11.10 where the display is unknown and there are limited options of resolution choices?
[00:53] <shawny> Can I ask a GNS3 question in here?
[00:53] <psusi> myraft, then you didn't edit it right... you need to add the setting in the quotes of the variable I mentioned
[00:53] <tfitts> what do I need to do to change my bash to a regular one.  I created a user and instead of the normal user@hostname $ prompt I just get a $ prompt and none of the default shortcuts work
[00:53] <tfitts> ls
[00:53] <tfitts> oops
[00:53] <mnbv0987> does anybody know how to disable wifi roaming in 11.10? i'm having trouble establishing a connection to a network where multiple aps have the same ssid.
[00:53] <dotnull> Antares, thank you. I'll take a look at that
[00:53] <myraft> @psusi: so how do I do something like this  - i8042.nomux=1 i8042.reset ?
[00:54] <psusi> myraft, add that to the variable like I said
[00:54] <clarkimusmax> mnbv0987, you're probably right but google chrome hogs resources and I'd like to surf without it affecting the copy too much. Thanks again!
[00:54] <myraft> @psusi- I am sorry, i missed it, searching thru
[00:54] <Antares> dotnull, it's available in the repo (sudo apt-get install powertop) and you navigate with the arrow keys.
[00:54] <mnbv0987> np
[00:55] <psusi> myraft, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT... add the extra options there within the quotes
[00:55] <Antares> There is a tunables section which says either "good" or "bad"; press enter on the item that says "bad" and it'll turn on power saving for that.
[00:55] <jay_why_bee> Guys... I am having a dhcpd problem.
[00:55] <NyLes> hi again, i have an existing grub configuration in my pc (using it on my windows xp and stuff), can i just add ubuntu there?
[00:55] <Antares> However, I have a problem with powertop not saving the settings after a restart, but that may be just me.
[00:56] <psusi> NyLes, Ubuntu will install grub2 and add all detected operating systems to it
[00:56] <jay_why_bee> I am moving my Ubuntu server from a physical machine to a VM.  Same version (LTS) and so I assumed if I copy the dhcpd.conf and the dhcpd.leases I am all set.  It offers addresses but none of the clients see it.
[00:57] <jay_why_bee> So my log is full of DHCPDISCOVER and DHCPOFFER but not DHCPACKS
[00:57] <tfitts> how do I make it so when I ssh in to my machine it automatically runs bash?
[00:57] <psusi> jay_why_bee, your VM is set up for networking in bridging mode, not NAT right?
[00:57] <NyLes> psusi so i have no choice but to install grub2? but i can add my other stuff there?
[00:57] <myraft> @psusi: - thanks for the help
[00:57] <jay_why_bee> psusi: yes and I see the DHCPDISCOVER
[00:57] <psusi> NyLes, it will automatically add it for you
[00:57] <myraft> I did that and update grub
[00:58] <myraft> keyboard not working still
[00:58] <myraft> brb
[00:58] <jay_why_bee> And if I shutdown the DHCPD service and turn it back on the old physical machine, all is good.
[00:59] <god-zotac> slackguru:: that should work fine, i don't see what any difference would be from ssh or actually logged into the system, just hope when you reboot the remote machine that all is good, unless you can easily gain physical access to it
[00:59] <psusi> jay_why_bee, odd.. maybe time to fire up wireshark?
[00:59] <NyLes> psusi its not just an OS, to be specific, i have hiren's boot cd, mini windows xp, memtest, recovery console, windows xp installer, plop boot manager etc..
[00:59] <jay_why_bee> psusi: packet sniffer?  You leaning towards ESXi doing something to the packets?
[00:59] <staniki> does anyone have advice on fixing resolution problem where display is unknown?
[01:00] <psusi> NyLes, then you may need to add some of them to /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[01:00] <psusi> jay_why_bee, could be
[01:01] <NyLes> psusi thanks, im using 10.04 anyways coz my hardware is too old..
[01:01] <psusi> NyLes, so?
[01:02] <psusi> NyLes, 11.10 should still run fine
[01:02] <jay_why_bee> psusi can I run wireshark in an ssh session?
[01:02] <NyLes> psusi it will over ride my existiing grub right?
[01:02] <clarkimusmax> tfitts, ssh shouldn't be different than the user's default login shell. you can edit the laseld in /etc/passwd or "usermod -s /bin/bash username"
[01:02] <psusi> jay_why_bee, I'd run it on a client machine
[01:02] <psusi> NyLes, yes
[01:03] <NyLes> psusi really? but when i tried 10.10 it doesn't recognize my video card?
[01:04] <myraft> @psusi: any ideas ?
[01:04] <psusi> NyLes, do you have an old ati card?  iirc, ati removed support for some older cards from the proprietary drivers, but the open source ones should work fine
[01:04] <psusi> myraft, nope
[01:04] <myraft> @psusi -thanks
[01:04] <clarkimusmax> tfitts, per google, "chsh" should work as well (man chsh)
[01:04] <NyLes> psusi: my card is NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400..
[01:06] <blud> I was using mythbuntu 10.10 and I upgraded to 11.04 and then to 11.10, and now when I turn the machine on, i dont see the desktop, instead it autoloads this program I have called Freevo in fullscreen, and I can't get to the desktop. If i quit freevo it just puts be to a black screen with a couple lines saying like Check Battery level [OK] and you can't do anything
[01:07] <mnbv0987> does anybody know how to disable wifi roaming in 11.10? i'm having trouble establishing a connection to a network where multiple aps have the same ssid.
[01:07] <NyLes> psusi do you thin my card will still run at 11.10?
[01:07] <psusi> NyLes, it should, yea...
[01:08] <psusi> NyLes, boot the livecd and find out
[01:09] <NyLes> psusi: it wont boot unless  add the option nomodeset.. i mean it boots but only shows black..
[01:10] <NyLes> psusi: i just finished installing ubuntu, how will add the option nomodeset manually?
[01:12] <somsip> !nomodeset
[01:12] <psusi> NyLes, add it to the options in /etc/default/grub
[01:12] <BLZbubba> ok what is the easiest way to get an ubuntu machine to use an ldap server for accounts?
[01:13] <NyLes> psusi: i can't boot yet, it will only show blank.. i just pressed E to edit it..
[01:14] <psusi> NyLes, ok
[01:15] <NyLes> psusi: so how will add it?
[01:16] <roland333> Hey channel!
[01:16] <psusi> NyLes, by typing on the keyboard?
[01:16] <Ra1nz> hello
[01:17] <roland333> I'm at the end of my rope, would anyone be willing to help someone new to ubuntu install it on his mac?
[01:17] <NyLes> psusi: lol yeah i know, i mean what part of this lines?
[01:17] <roland333> A little context i've attempted to install with both a USB and optical disk with the instructions from ubuntu.org
[01:17] <psusi> NyLes, on the linux line with the other options
[01:18] <Antares> Which problems are you having, roland333?
[01:18] <roland333> Uhh, I misspoke.  Not install, but boot from USB and DVD
[01:18] <h00k> roland333: I'll throw a factoid that may help
[01:18] <h00k> !mac | roland333
[01:18] <roland333> When I restart the system with the USB
[01:18] <roland333> okay, i'll check that out in one sec.
[01:18] <NyLes> psusi: is it after quiet splash?
[01:19] <roland333> I restart the system, press alt.
[01:19] <NyLes> psusi: there it boots thank you..
[01:19] <roland333> and the only option that comes up is the hard drive.
[01:19] <roland333> when I log into OSX, there is a disk error that says the drive is unreadable.
[01:20] <roland333> actually, i'm gonna reboot to make sure i have the exact correct wording.  brb.
[01:20] <NyLes> mgolisch: are you there?
[01:20] <psusi> roland333, how did you format this drive?
[01:21] <roland333> As for the DVD-R's i'm trying to use, it wouldn't let me format them.
[01:21] <roland333> So I assumed that was unnecessary.
[01:22] <roland333> Were you referring specifically to USB or would I need to format both?
[01:22] <psusi> roland333, I mean how did you make the usb?
[01:22] <roland333> terminal
[01:22] <roland333> with instructions from ubuntu.org
[01:23] <Antares> roland333, have you tried using Unetbootin?
[01:23] <psusi> roland333, what instructions?
[01:23] <roland333> One moment, i'll cp.
[01:23] <roland333> or summarize.
[01:24] <kaushal> Hi
[01:24] <Antares> Hello
[01:24] <kaushal> Any prominent Features from Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[01:24] <kaushal> from the earlier release
[01:24] <mnbv0987> i'm using ubuntu 11.10 and having trouble establishing a wifi connection to a network where multiple aps have the same ssid. what can i try first? i want to keep using networkmanager if possible.
[01:25] <mnbv0987> in dmesg it says its disconnected for reason #2, which is something like "authentication is no longer valid", and it repeatedly prompts me for a password
[01:25] <mnbv0987> i have no trouble connecting to networks with only one ap
[01:33] <somethinginteres> Hi all, I'm looking for an application that can analyse wifi around me so I can discover the best wireless channel to use. Ideas?
[01:34] <sephthir> So I am sure this isn't the correct Ubuntu channel to be asking this in, but I was wondering if someone could give me some direction to look in for the methods the Ubuntu install isos (particularly the alternate install image) are generated. Anyone have a direction to look?
[01:35] <Antares> somethinginteres, have you looked in the software center? I don't really use wifi analysis stuff, so I can't speak from experience.
[01:35] <somethinginteres> Antares: Not atm, I'm not sure how to go about finding an app without knowing its name per se.
[01:36] <Antares> Just type in some keywords you might think the program would use, such as wifi or network analysis, etc.
[01:36] <jo__> f
[01:36] <somethinginteres> Antares: I'll have a look now.
[01:38] <mnbv0987> can i change the shortcuts on the dash in 11.10? i've never run a network app or media app through there, i don't use this machine for photos or music, firefox is already on the launchpad, and thunderbird is already in the system tray.
[01:38] <mnbv0987> the only one i ever click is "more apps" when i'm trying to find other applications.
[01:38] <Antares> mnbv0987, hold alt and then right click on the shortcut in question and choose remove.
[01:39] <Antares> You can add shortcuts by left-clicking and holding on to something in the dash and then dragging it over to the launcher.
[01:39] <lahwran> has the memory leak in nm-applet been fixed since 10.10?
[01:39] <txtzttm> I'm getting "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,..." when I try to mount a HFS+ external HDD in 11.10. Any thoughts?
[01:39] <mnbv0987> Antares: nothing comes up when i hold alt and right click. i'm talking about the 8 big shortcuts when i click "dash home"
[01:40] <Antares> Ooh, I thought just the panel. I don't know how to change those, but you can try Googling, mnbv0987. :P
[01:40] <mnbv0987> thanks
[01:40] <Antares> Sorry I can't be of much help. :P
[01:40] <mnbv0987> also does anybody know how to make the application list scroll bar in dash home wider than 3 pixels?
[01:41] <Lint> is it possible for grub 2 to use loadable fonts in text mode? right now it just uses bios font
[01:41] <somethinginteres> Antares: doesn't seem like there's any suitable options in the Software Centre
[01:43] <NyLes> lol, i tried installing my video card with proprietary, now it wont boot even at nomodeset
[01:43] <Antares> somethinginteres, are you trying to analyze network traffic or do you just want to measure signal strength and whatnot?
[01:44] <Dr_willis> txtzttm,  you  are trying /dev/sdb when you may be meaning /dev/sdb1
[01:44] <somethinginteres> Antares: I'm just want to check signal strength and how crowded the wireless channels are in my area to find the best channel to be on.
[01:45] <jen_> how can I video call in pidgeon
[01:45] <txtzttm> Dr_willis, I was using /dev/sdb but I just tried /dev/sdb1 with the same results
[01:45] <Dr_willis> txtzttm,  no idea then. I never use hfs.
[01:46] <Dr_willis> txtzttm,  paste the exact mount command you re using to the channel. some one may see a error in it.
[01:46] <zykotick9> Lint: i just changed my console font, but even that doesn't apply until midway though the boot process.  I highly doubt you'll be able to change grub's fonts at all.
[01:46] <txtzttm> sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force /dev/sdb1 /media/outerhaven
[01:47] <Dr_willis> I think Grub2 has a lot of theme/options that are not compiled in by default. -
[01:47] <jen_> how can I video chat in pidgin for my yahoo?
[01:47] <Lint> but if grub is set to run in graphic mode, it loads fancy ubuntu font, that with characters from thin lines
[01:47] <NyLes> can someone help me with my video card? it has bugs with latest drivers NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[01:48] <Lint> *made
[01:48] <jay_why_bee> psusi it appears my new server is sending out DHCP Offer packets from source 127.0.0.1
[01:48] <Gentoo64> NyLes: you might as well use nouveau
[01:48] <Antares> somethinginteres, I looked for a bit but did not find anything I could use. I suppose it's just a matter of knowing which program to use, and I have no experience with them.
[01:48] <Antares> Sorry. :(
[01:48] <NyLes> Gentoo64: how will  get to use it?
[01:49] <zykotick9> NyLes: i doubt that particular card is supported by nvidia-current, did you check which driver it's suppose to work with?
[01:49] <Gentoo64> NyLes: uninstall nvidia drivers
[01:49] <somethinginteres> Antares: Thanks for the help regardless.
[01:49] <zykotick9> NyLes: nouveau may not give you want you want BTW - 3d might not work for instance
[01:49] <somethinginteres> Antares: I just found this: http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/ apparently a Linux port is in Alpha. Otherwise I might try netstumbler
[01:50] <zykotick9> NyLes: to check for nouveau 3d support you could check the h-node site and search for your card
[01:51] <Antares> somethinginteres, you can always try running Windows binaries if you find something that fits the bill using WINE (sudo apt-get install wine).
[01:51] <NyLes> zykotick9: i've done some research and they say nvidia-96?
[01:51] <Antares> In case the port doesn't work for some reason.
[01:51] <somethinginteres> Antares: noted.
[01:51] <zykotick9> NyLes: and is that the driver you installed?
[01:51] <NyLes> zykotick9: ill check the site, i think even my card doesn'y support 3d :D its very old..
[01:52] <NyLes> zykotick9: i just tried the Additional Hardware under system, it says there nvidia-96?
[01:53] <Pikkachu> what's the easiest/clearest/better way to automount ntfs partitions onto /media/<DRIVE_LABEL>? (no hardcoded path, it should get the label then create a dir named after that)
[01:54] <julz_> bonsoir
[01:54] <jay_why_bee> So I have moved a DHCP server from old physical server to a virtual server on an ESXi host.  Same config, same lease.  The new one doesn't appear to respond to anyone.  A packet snif shows the new server's Source IP to be 127.0.1.1?  Thoughts?
[01:54] <psusi> jay_why_bee, did you configure the server's IP address?
[01:54] <Lint> Pikkachu, use "udisks --mount"
[01:55] <Pikkachu> Lint: I'm in windows now, what will it do exactly?
[01:55] <jay_why_bee> Would that be the "server-identifier" in the dhcpd.conf?
[01:56] <psusi> jay_why_bee, you said you were sshed to the vm so I presume it has a proper IP address?  that sounds promising
[01:57] <Lint> you need to run the command "udisks --mount /dev/xxx" as root from batch file or similar
[01:57] <jay_why_bee> yes
[01:57] <psusi> Lint, or just click on it in the gui
[01:57] <jay_why_bee> I am changing the host address to the ip address and rechecking.
[01:57] <Lint> psusi, he needs automatic way I suppose
[01:58] <jay_why_bee> psusi: that looks like it worked...
[01:58] <psusi> Lint, having to run a script with sudo != automatic
[01:59] <zykotick9> jay_why_bee: verify that the ethX involved hasn't changed, udev may have moved it
[02:00] <jay_why_bee> well between the two servers (old = eth3; new = eth0) it did changed, but the config wasn't set to anything listing the interface.  Just the subnet.
[02:00] <NyLes> zykotick9: sad to say h-node doesn't have my card driver :(
[02:02] <zykotick9> NyLes: that's unfortunate.  well, if nvidia proprietary isn't working, giving nouveau a try might be a good idea (i was personally very dissappointed with nouveau 3d)
[02:02] <jay_why_bee> psusi But I changed the "server-identifier" from the server.domain.com to 192.168.1.1 and it reported it correctly to the window's client.
[02:03] <NyLes> zykotick9: how will i get to use nouveau?
[02:03] <jay_why_bee> psusi I now see the DHCPACK goodness!  Thanks.
[02:03] <zykotick9> NyLes: remove all the nvidia drivers, move xorg.conf to xorg.conf.disabled then restart
[02:04] <NyLes> zykotick9: how will i remove the drivers? lol i thought its impossible reformatted it again LMFAO..
[02:04] <NyLes> zykotick9: *i reformatted
[02:05] <Pikkachu> Lint: do I need to install any package in fresh oneiric for using udisks?
[02:05] <Lint> Pikkachu, no
[02:05] <Pikkachu> Lint, psusi: yeah automated so I don't need to click every time
[02:05] <zykotick9> NyLes: do you know specifically what the package was called?  something like "nvidia96-something"?
[02:06] <zykotick9> NyLes: you could use "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" to check
[02:06] <psusi> Pikkachu, if you want the system to mount it at boot time, add it to /etc/fstab
[02:06] <NyLes> zykotick9: ok thanks ill keep that in mind for future hahaha, the formatting started 5 minutes ago already..
[02:07] <Lint> psusi, but fstab doesn't create and remove nice mount points automatically
[02:07] <Pikkachu> Lint: ok, in previous install I had some ntfs package which seems to be doing that somehow (iirc ntfs3g-manager or something, it was from the time ntfs writing wasn't default in ubuntu yet, then I started from scratch in oneiric and it didn't come with that utility)
[02:08] <Pikkachu> psusi: please read what I asked
[02:08] <Lint> ntfs support via fuse is in by default
[02:08] <Pikkachu> Lint: what's fuse? some ntfs support package?
[02:09] <zykotick9> !fuse | Pikkachu
[02:11] <Pikkachu> thanks for the tip Lint, will try to recall 'udisks --mount /dev/sda'
[02:11] <Lint> sdaN then
[02:13] <psusi> Lint, yea, you make the mount point
[02:15] <Pikkachu> Lint: does it just figure it out it's to be mounted on /media?
[02:15] <Lint> Pikkachu, it did for me
[02:16] <Pikkachu> Lint: ok thanks!
[02:16] <Lint> where can I ask quick autotools question?
[02:19] <bazhang> Lint, #autotools
[02:19] <Lesterwood> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUs_6-d5T3g opinions?
[02:19] <NyLes> nouveau doesn't work either, what do you think if i try this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1646166 can you help me?
[02:20] <bazhang> Lesterwood, its offtopic. dont randomly paste stuff here
[02:22] <jen_> ugh linux jipped me off
[02:23] <jen_> how am I suppose to use my yahoo to vid chat?
[02:23] <mjbermea|afk> jen_: Use skype.
[02:23] <metasansana> anyone know why mysql-workbench keeps crashing on 11.10?
[02:23] <jen_> but I want yahoo vid chat
[02:23] <jen_> as well
[02:24] <hiexpo> hola
[02:26] <WebDawg> I have a service tinyproxy that I want started before gdm starts.
[02:26] <WebDawg> Any suggestions.
[02:26] <WebDawg> It looks like I can edit /etc/init/gdm.conf but I am not sure if I can add those types of services.
[02:27] <zykotick9> jen_: yahoo probably has the worst gnu/linux support of any of the IM protocols, gyachi is some out-of-repo, out-of-date program that you might want to check out though.
[02:27] <jen_> awww poopie doo doo
[02:27] <NyLes> nouveau doesn't work either, what do you think if i try this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1646166 can you help me?
[02:27] <jen_> naaa i guess I can live
[02:29] <erpo> Good evening. My girlfriend would like to know why the icon for the Archive Manager tool looks like a toilet paper roll.
[02:29] <erpo> This would be in 11.10.
[02:29] <OU818> what ubuntu is the best ubuntu?
[02:30] <erpo> OU818: What do you intend to use it for?
[02:30] <zykotick9> OU818: what orange is the best orange? - what do you mean?
[02:30] <smw_> erpo, which icon? It looks like a cardboard box to me...
[02:30] <erpo> smw_: The icon for file-roller.
[02:30] <Lint> erpo, ask theme authors. But it's because archive manager is called file_roller_
[02:31] <OU818> well like, I wanna stop windowsing and start ubuntuing and i dont know where to begin
[02:31] <erpo> Lint: I know. It used to look like a steamroller, and that made sense. When she said it looked like a toilet paper roll, I thought she was joking.
[02:31] <erpo> But that's exactly what it looks like now.
[02:31] <smw_> erpo, if you look at a big version, it does not looke like toilet paper ;-)
[02:31] <Lint> erpo, which icon theme?
[02:31] <erpo> OU818: Download bog standard ubuntu from ubuntu.com.
[02:31] <elky> erpo, it's actually an image of a big concrete tube which can be rolled over turf to compress it down, for example
[02:32] <smw_> erpo, it is a pic of a roller flattening a file...
[02:32] <erpo> Lint: The default?
[02:32] <OU818> bog standard, got it
[02:32] <OU818> erpo: thanks brb
[02:32] <smw_> erpo, (a folder actually)
[02:32] <erpo> smw_: It's unix. Everything is a file. ;)
[02:32] <zykotick9> erpo: "bog standard" what is that?
[02:32] <erpo> smw_: Or, I was wrong.
[02:32] <smw_> erpo, folders are not files
[02:33] <smw_> erpo, nor are network interfaces
[02:33] <zykotick9> smw_: right folders aren't real
[02:33] <smw_> zykotick9, right
[02:33] <erpo> zykotick9: Perhaps an imprecise or unhelpful term. I mean "vanilla" or "default" ubuntu.
[02:33] <erpo> zykotick9: Ubuntu 11.10 x86
[02:34] <wildman_> hello to anyone out there that can help me with a ubuntu network problem
[02:34] <zykotick9> erpo: i see, bog is not a term i'm familiar with (well, in the context you're using it in).  Thanks for the clarification.
[02:34] <smw_> !ask | wildman_
[02:34] <wildman_> ubuntu 11.10
[02:35] <OU818> "early ceramic toilets being produced to exactly the same specification in white only which became known as the bog standard"
[02:35] <OU818> thanks google!
[02:36] <wildman_> ok i have ubuntu 11.10 on all of my systems and i can get them to talk to one another
[02:36] <cowslammer> i just installed 11.10 - how do i make the screen saver not ask for a password?
[02:36] <wildman_> i cant see them in the netwok deal when you click the network icon
[02:37] <wildman_> all i want to do is be able to copy files to difrent systems and my nas boxes
[02:37] <Lint> can someone explain why xapian is rebuilding database each morning if I didn't update package repositories meanwhile?
[02:38] <stevelitt> wildman_, I can't see other hosts when I click on my network icon (on the menubar). I didn't know that was even a feature. I'm using 11.04.
[02:39] <eggzeck> she made a mistake!
[02:39] <wildman_> well like when you go to the home menu and click the network icon on the bottom left there it wont show my other systems
[02:41] <wildman_> when i had 11.4 i could click on the network deal and see all the computers on my net work
[02:42] <wildman_> this 11.10 just shows a black screen
[02:42] <stevelitt> wildman_, I'm working on 11.04, Classic Gnome interface, so can't reproduce your exact situation, but it looks like when I select Places->Network and get into the network display, all I see are Windows computers, and I suppose if I had Samba servers configured correctly on Linux boxes, I'd see those too.
[02:42] <erpo> wildman_: Post a screenshot.
[02:43] <erpo> wildman_: Also, is your last name Wildman, and did you recently graduate from a culinary arts program?
[02:43] <wildman_> ok  what key do i hit to get a screen shot i forgot how that works
[02:44] <rattatoue> wildman_, print screen
[02:44] <neophreak> wildman_, press "Print Screen"
[02:44] <wildman_> ok thanks bew right back
[02:46] <eggzeck> wildman_: The first question would be how are you or what are you using to enable file sharing (and network discovery)?
[02:47] <OerHeks> Lint, maybe #Xapian knows the answer
[02:47] <wildman_> ok how do i get this to you
[02:48] <wildman_> the screen shot that is
[02:48] <NyLes> how to use sh command in terminal?
[02:48] <OerHeks> wildman_,  picpaste.com
[02:48] <NyLes> i will try this one "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.20.pkg1.run"
[02:49] <eggzeck> NyLes: man sh
[02:49] <NyLes> eggzeck: man sh?
[02:50] <OerHeks> NyLes, "./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.20.pkg1.run"
[02:50] <eggzeck> NyLes: adding "man" before a command allows you to read its manual page and in turn will help you understand it better :-)
[02:50] <NyLes> OerHeks: i got it working now, but it prompts me saying that i should first exit x server? how will i do that?
[02:51] <wildman_> ok i think it is there
[02:51] <NyLes> eggzeck: ow thanks for that..
[02:51]  * OerHeks thinks that 96 driver is not goin to work in 11.10 + unity
[02:51] <stevelitt> NyLes, my guess would be to Ctrl+Alt+F2, log in, and run it from that terminal.
[02:51] <eggzeck> wildman_: My guess it that you have not tried enabling nor configuring file sharing/network discovery at all which is why you're not seeing the machines. (I'm assuming this since you did not answer my above question)
[02:51] <NyLes> OerHeks: im using 10.04 :D
[02:51] <stevelitt> wildman_, You need to give us the URL picpaste.com gave you.
[02:52] <NyLes> stevelitt: ill try it thanks..
[02:52] <wildman_> ok hang on i will go get it
[02:52] <zykotick9> NyLes: only my opinion, but manually install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com is a bad idea
[02:52] <OerHeks> wildman_, click the url above the remove url, then you can copy it
[02:52] <Lint> what is GTK shortcut for entering Unicode characters?
[02:53] <wildman_> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_at_2012-02-20_19_46_51-jfbZ4bzj.png
[02:53] <NyLes> zykotick9: but why? how will i install it? :/
[02:53] <sephthir> I was wondering if someone could give me some direction to look in for the methods the Ubuntu install isos (particularly the alternate install image) are generated. Anyone have a direction to look?
[02:54] <zykotick9> NyLes: 1) uninstall could be a BIG issue (well, not if you are willing to reinstall again) 2) after every kernel update you'll have to reinstall it 3) it isn't supported in this channel
[02:54] <bazhang> sephthir, you wish to customize the debian-installer ?
[02:54] <stevelitt> wildman_, Just as a diagnostic, try running Nautilus, then click Go->Network on the menu, and see if you see the other boxes there.
[02:55] <sephthir> bazhang, I already know how to customize debian-installer, that's working fine. What I really need is the actual documentation / scripts that produce the alternate install iso, and I've been basically unable to find anything related to it online anywhere...
[02:55] <NyLes> zykotick9: what do you mean every kernel update? even im using 10.04 the kernel will be updated? i can't use latest version of ubuntu coz of this card..
[02:55] <babonk> Hey guys, I just installed phpmyadmin and I can't access it at http://mydomain.com/phpmyadmin/  .  I get a 404
[02:55] <babonk> I followed the steps in the installation documentation, I believe.  PHP/mysql/apache are all working fine
[02:55] <wildman_> ok will go try it just a sec
[02:55] <zykotick9> NyLes: when you get a kernel update, when you restart your Xorg will be broken until you manually reinstall the nvidia.com driver
[02:56] <zykotick9> NyLes: the kernel does get security updates from time to time
[02:56] <dipix> babonk: did you configure it>
[02:56] <babonk> dipix: I included it in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[02:56] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization sephthir from this?
[02:56] <OerHeks> babonk try http://localhost/phpmyadmin if you configured it correctly
[02:57] <babonk> k
[02:57] <stevelitt> wildman_, By the way, in my opinion Nautilus sucks bigtime. We're doing this only as a diagnostic test.
[02:57] <babonk> i would like it to be accessible from the web, though
[02:57] <babonk> since this isn't my localhost, it's a shell
[02:57] <dipix> babonk: or 127.0.0.1
[02:57] <NyLes> zykotick9: i see.. hmmm.. but i think i'll just reinstall it manually again and again IF this works perfectly.. have no choice anyway..
[02:57] <sephthir> bazhang, I've already looked through it and it doesn't do enough in the directions I need.
[02:58] <Thomas__> Hey, I have a few questions about ubuntu
[02:58] <Thomas__> Is this the right place to go?
[02:58] <NyLes> stevelitt: i tried what you suggested but still it says i should exit first X server? any ideas?
[02:58] <rattatoue> !question
[02:58] <bazhang> Thomas__, yes
[02:58] <hiexpo> Thomas__, sure shoot
[02:59] <wildman_> ok how do i get to that in the terminal or what
[02:59] <stevelitt> NyLes, I don't know for sure, but I think it's telling you that you must completely quit X. Which would mean, if you started X with startx, quit X. If you started it by virtue of booting, you need to reboot to CLI mode. Other people can tell you better ways to boot into CLI mode better than I.
[03:00] <stevelitt> wildman_, Did a program come up when you ran Nautilus?
[03:00] <Thomas__> Sounds good, so I decided that I wanted to install ubuntu, but keep Windows 7. Now, I have never done anything with partitions nor ubuntu. I created a third 100 gb partition, installed ubuntu onto a disk, burned the disk, loaded the disk, installed onto the 100gb partition, and when I choose to run ubuntu on start up I get error: "Prefix" not set
[03:01] <zykotick9> NyLes: ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a VT, then "sudo service lightdm stop" might work
[03:01] <mohan_> I am trying to install XBMC ...but not able to do that..
[03:01] <stevelitt> wildman_, Oh I remember how you do it in Unity. Go to the place where you look at your computer, click that, and I think that should bring you into Nutulus.
[03:01] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Thomas__
[03:01] <bazhang> NyLes, you are on 10.04?
[03:01] <mohan_> this command fails :- sudo add-apt repository ppa:team-xbmc
[03:01] <NyLes> bazhang: yes
[03:01] <mohan_> i am on 11.10
[03:01] <zykotick9> NyLes: "sudo service gdm stop" then ;)
[03:01] <NyLes> zykotick9: ok i will try that..
[03:01] <bazhang> mohan_, whats the link to the ppa page
[03:01] <goose_> how can I change my theme back to the older style themes? This new one on 11.04 is killing me.
[03:02] <zykotick9> !notunity | goose_
[03:02] <stevelitt> zykotick9, what would it have been for 11.10 to stop gdm?
[03:02] <mohan_> hmm..i am just referring this article here :- http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/good-media-server-ubuntu-set/
[03:02] <wildman_> what thing is that i am still kind of new to all this stuff
[03:02] <zykotick9> stevelitt: if 11.10 uses GDM then yes
[03:02] <mohan_> answer from Tim Brookes
[03:02] <mohan_> :)
[03:02] <bazhang> goose_, choose classic from the login window
[03:03] <goose_> err, 11.10 rather
[03:03] <goose_> but thanks zykotick9
[03:03] <stevelitt> zykotick9, let me guess, if you're using lightdm, you "sudo service lightdm stop"?
[03:04] <zykotick9> stevelitt: i'd guess (i've never used lightdm though)
[03:04] <NylLes> zykotick9: thanks your suggestions works fine :)
[03:04] <NylLes> bazhang: yes im on 10.04 right now as you guys suggested..
[03:04] <gordon1234> mohan_, try this http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_Ubuntu/HOW-TO_1
[03:05] <wildman_> i not sure where you want me to go
[03:05] <gordon1234> mohan_, although I don't think it works in 11.10
[03:05] <stevelitt> wildman_, Go to the place where it gave you the error message, click OK on the dialog box posting the error, then run the menu on the program with Desktop and Pictures and all that (I think you hover or click the menubar at the upper left, and then choose help->about, and tell me what program it says it is.
[03:06] <stevelitt> zykotick9, Thanks for the info -- I never knew that, and actually had to tweak the grub configuration to boot Ubuntu to CLI, and wasn't that a mess!
[03:06] <NylLes> installation is done now it prompts me if i would like to run the nvidia-xconfig utility to update my X configuration, what can you guys suggest?
[03:07] <zykotick9> stevelitt: :)
[03:07] <Thomas__> I can't get into anything ubuntu-related besides the installer, and If I'm reading this boot info script, I actually have to be in ubuntu for it to work
[03:07] <zykotick9> NylLes: try running "sudo nvidia-xconfig" not sure if it's going to be there or not though
[03:08] <Lint> what is the best way to download single precise packahe?
[03:08] <NylLes> zykotick9: thanks you're a big help really..
[03:08] <NylLes> restarting now....
[03:08] <mohan_> gordon..will do that
[03:08] <LL2|Android> /quit
[03:08] <LL2|Android> :P
[03:09] <LL2|Android> I should so set that as my quit msg
[03:09] <wildman_> ok i have a screen shot for you if that helps
[03:10] <NylLes> :( still black screen..
[03:10] <wildman_> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_at_2012-02-20_20_07_54-I6d07u9m.png
[03:10] <mohan_> I am just looking a way to make my ubuntu desktop as a media server...is there a way to do it ?
[03:10] <mohan_> if XBMC doesn't work with 11.10
[03:10] <babonk> Hey guys.  I installed PHPmyadmin and added it to the apache config, but it's not accessible from localhost/phpmyadmin/
[03:11] <dipix> mohan_: try "MediaTomb"
[03:11] <mohan_> oh
[03:11] <Jordan_U> Thomas__: So you installed using the Alternate / Server install CD rather than the normal Desktop CD?
[03:11] <mohan_> let me check
[03:11] <NylLes> what is the option in grub to boot at CLI?
[03:11] <zykotick9> !text | NylLes
[03:12] <NylLes> zykotick9: ubottu thanks so much..
[03:12] <stevelitt> wildman_, Good! Now get to the menu on that program (which we now know is Nautilus), and select Go->Network, and see if you get the same error message.
[03:12] <zykotick9> NylLes: ubottu is the channel's bot
[03:12] <log> !thanks | NylLes
[03:13] <stevelitt> NylLes, Be sure to back up the config file before adding the word "text".
[03:13] <Thomas__> All I did was go to ubuntu.com, click download, click the first "Download and Install", run the burner, then run the disk, click "Install alongside windows" , and select my new partition with nothing on it
[03:13] <NylLes> zykotick9: ow hahaha.. stevelitt yeah thanks.. this card is making me lose hope lol..
[03:14] <Jordan_U> Thomas__: If you select "Try Ubuntu before installing" (or a similar option) you can run a live version of Ubuntu from the CD. From there you can run boot info script.
[03:15] <gbear14275> Is there a recommended tool for disk management (Partitioning/lvm) through ssh?  I've only used gparted but this is for a headless machine... no sense to use gnome
[03:15] <gbear14275> or rather... how do people do disk management through ssh normally?
[03:15] <zykotick9> gbear14275: parted is the cli program gparted relies on.
[03:15] <gordon1234> mohan_, I would check out moovida ... its a lot about personal preference though.
[03:15] <Thomas__> "Demo and full installation"?
[03:16] <wildman_> no it just shows the windows network icon and thats it it us to show all of my other computers when you hit the network deal now the windows icon is the only one that shows but the frist time you hit the net work icon it gives you the error then it just shows the windows icon from then on
[03:16] <gbear14275> zykotick9, thanks I remembered that it was based on parted but wasn't sure if that's what people used.
[03:17] <gbear14275> zykotick9, can parted create logical volumes?  Or is there another tool I would have to use for LVM stuff...  or would it just be... lvm (I'm beginning to doubt myself)
[03:17] <gbear14275> nvm
[03:17] <NylLes> im losing hope lol, what's with puppy that it can use my video card..
[03:17] <zykotick9> gbear14275: i really wouldn't know, i'm still using regular paritions and fdisk ;)
[03:18] <zykotick9> NylLes: old xorg would be my guess
[03:18] <gbear14275> zykotick9, I think I answered my own question.  I appreciate the help though
[03:18] <Jordan_U> Thomas__: What version of Ubuntu are you using? I just tried booting an Ubuntu 11.10 CD and the options are "Try Ubuntu" (what you want) and "Install Ubuntu". No "Demo and full installation".
[03:19] <NylLes> zykotick9: old xorg? what do you mean? i can't uninstall the nvidia driver i installed lol..
[03:19] <stevelitt> wildman_, Install a Samba server on one of the other boxes, and see if you see it in Nautilus. Installing the Samba server should be just an Aptitude thing or an apt-get install thing or whatever Unity uses. If security isn't an issue, temporarily make your home directory accessible on the other computer.
[03:19] <NylLes> zykotick9: can i do it with 10.04, that old xorg you're saying?
[03:19] <stevelitt> wildman_, What confuses me is how it showed the other computers on 11.04, but not on 11.10. I'm assuming all the other computers were not changed. That's bizarre.
[03:19] <zykotick9> NylLes: just a theory, but if the other distro uses an older version of Xorg, that might explain why it works with your card
[03:19] <Thomas__> 11.10...
[03:19] <krishmish> ?
[03:20] <NylLes> zykotick9: is there a way to use what puppy is using to ubuntu?
[03:20] <odie5533> should /etc/apt/sources.list exist or did the source move somewhere else recently?
[03:20] <zykotick9> NylLes: highly doubt it, and remember i'm just theorizing here
[03:20] <Xeneth> Hello peeps
[03:21] <Thomas__>  Jordan_U :http://puu.sh/hKjg is the menu I am getting.
[03:21] <stevelitt> zykotick9, NylLes: I used to have stuff like that all the time -- my distro couldn't correctly configure the video card, so I'd run another distro (Knoppix was good for that), it would work fine with the card, and then I'd back up my old xorg.conf and copy the Knoppix xorg.conf to xorg.conf. A lot of times that worked.
[03:21] <krishmish> someone able to lemme know tips for using backtrack?
[03:21] <bazhang> krishmish, in the backtrack channel #backtrack-linux
[03:21] <krishmish> thanx
[03:22] <NylLes> stevelitt: woah? really? what about if i just used puppy? still has the live cd here..
[03:22] <babonk> I installed PHPmyadmin and added it to the apache config, but it's not accessible from localhost/phpmyadmin/ .  Can anyone advise me what could be going wrong?
[03:22] <babonk> That URL 404s
[03:22] <stevelitt> NylLes, BACK UP your old xorg.conf first!!!!!
[03:22] <Jordan_U> Thomas__: When I boot an Ubuntu 11.10 CD I get to this screen: http://jordanu.dyndns.org/tmp/try_or_install.png Is that what you see?
[03:22] <blud> I just installed Lubuntu on my laptop, and I want to output to the tv via vga, but the tv is getting no signal, what do I do?
[03:22] <NylLes> what's the difference between nvidia-96 and nvidia-96-modaliases?
[03:23] <wildman_> no sir all my systems have 11.10 on them and i have two nas boxs that i built and it dosnt see them eather it use to in 11.4 though that is why i am asking for help i will go try that samba thing and see if that works will let you know in just a little while ok
[03:23] <NylLes> stevelitt: ahahaha ok thanks..
[03:23] <Xeneth> Hoping someone would be able to tell me why "tracepath" is installed by default when "traceroute" is not.  Was there a specific reason?
[03:23] <Jordan_U> Thomas__: Ahh, I understand now. You need to actually boot from the CD to do a normal install of Ubuntu.
[03:23] <babonk> never mind just had to restart apache
[03:24] <NylLes> can i access ubuntu files with my windows xp? dual boot..
[03:24] <Xeneth> Tracepath alway's seems to fail.
[03:24] <limpc> hi, i have an AMD Phenom II x6 1075T, which is 3.1ghz.  but when i do cat /proc/cpu | grep "cpu MHz" it shows all the cores at 800.000 MHZ??
[03:24] <Jordan_U> Thomas__: Follow the instructions here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download to install Ubuntu normally. You can probably skip to step 3, assuming you've already burned the CD.
[03:25] <Thomas__> Jordan_ U :I can't navigate my bios with any sort of accuracy due to a screen problem, and my computer doesn't boot from the the CD on default. Any ideas on what to do?
[03:25] <krishmish> ?
[03:25] <NylLes> what does free software only option do?
[03:25] <Xeneth> NylLes, You would have to install drives so that windows can see the linux FS
[03:25] <stevelitt> limpc, Your computer slows down the processor when not working hard. Run a prime number generator or something like that and you'll see one of the processors briefly hit 3100.
[03:25] <NylLes> Xeneth: what do you mean?
[03:25] <Jordan_U> Thomas__: If you don't get my nick correct my client won't highlight your message.
[03:25] <Jordan_U> !tab | Thomas__
[03:26] <Xeneth> NylLes, By default, windows cannot read EXT (ext3 or ext4), so windows cannot see those partitions.  you would have to change that.
[03:27] <NylLes> Xeneth: but linux can read windows FS?
[03:27] <Jordan_U> NylLes: Correct.
[03:27] <NylLes> Jordan_U: ok thanks..
[03:27] <Jordan_U> NylLes: You're welcome.
[03:28] <Xeneth> NylLes, correct, being open, someone wrote drivers so that Linux can read NTFS which is what new windows use.  I have heard of a way to get windows to see EXT3.  do not know if it works for EXT4
[03:29] <NylLes> Xeneth: thanks for the info..
[03:29] <limpc> stevelitt, hmm yea ok. i did dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null and saw one core jump to 3ghz
[03:29] <limpc> that scared me, i thought i got ripped off lol
[03:29] <Xeneth> NylLes,  NP.  happy to help.
[03:30] <blud> my tv gets no signal from my laptop vga cable for some reason, anything i can try?
[03:30] <Thomas__> Going to try a restart
[03:30] <zykotick9> blud: does you laptop have some hotkey combination to toggle video out?
[03:30] <Jordan_U> Thomas__: What exactly is the problem with the screen that provents you from seeing the BIOS menus?
[03:31] <blud> zykotick9: it does but it seems to do nothing
[03:31] <blud> zykotick9: back in mythbuntu hitting it (fn-f8) would blank out the laptop screen, but now in lubuntu it has no effect
[03:31] <zykotick9> blud: what GPU does it use?
[03:32] <blud> intel 855
[03:32] <blud> when i go to monitors, or do xrandr it *does* see both the laptop screen and the vga out to tv, so, thats cool
[03:32] <stevelitt> limpc, Yeah, I had the exact same reaction the first time I did cat /proc/cpuinfo. There's a bios setting by which you can have your computer run full speed all the time, but unless it's mid-winter and you need extra heating, don't do it.
[03:32] <zykotick9> blud: sorry, i'm not familiar at all with lxde.  Good luck.
[03:32] <limpc> heh yeah
[03:33] <blud> i dont really think its a lxde specific thing but w/e
[03:33] <zykotick9> stevelitt: the software side would be cpufreq-set from cli
[03:33] <researcher123> the red bulb of CPU keeps glowing for quite long and speed of PC slowed down drastically. What can be done?
[03:34] <Xeneth> Guess noone can answer my tracepath/traceroute question.  :)  just trying to find out why tracepath fails after a few hops.
[03:34] <wildman_> ok sir this is wildman again i have the samba setup on the other system and it has been setup through this hole thing and i still dont see it in the network now what
[03:34] <stevelitt> Ah, kuhl, thanks zykotick9. Hear that limpc, the software side would be cpufreq-set from cli.
[03:35] <zykotick9> limpc: there should be some GUI tool(s) to accomplish the same thing.
[03:36] <stevelitt> wildman_: I don't know. Ask yourself this question: How can I narrow it down just one more time? Think of a diagnostic test that will rule out certain components. You know the first test I'd try? Go to each of those other 11.10 computers and see if *they* can see the other computers.
[03:36] <HoNgOuRu> how do I install cg compiler?
[03:36] <HoNgOuRu> cmake tells can't find cg_compiler
[03:37] <wildman_> no it dose the same on all of them
[03:38] <stevelitt> OK wildman_, next test -- try pinging between these ten boxes. I really should have suggested that five suggestions ago.
[03:38] <wildman_> same error the frist time then just the windows icon shows
[03:38] <zykotick9> wildman_: are all the computer gnu/linux based?  alternatives to MS's SMB sharing would be SSH or NFS.
[03:38] <stevelitt> OK wildman_, ping others from the one, and then maybe from another. Do the pings work?
[03:38] <GhostWolf> hi all, is there anyone who can help me with a webcam issue with skype?
[03:40] <wildman_> ok how do i get the ping thing i was just there the other day and forgot how i got there
[03:41] <Xeneth> wildman_, You can ping from terminal or "System > Administration > Network tools"
[03:41] <wildman_> oh ya thanks i forgot how i got there
[03:42] <jen_> is there a health chatroom here?
[03:42] <GhostWolf> i have an issue with my webcam, i have installed cheese and its running but when i try to use skype my webcam doesn't come up on the other side, im using a laptop to test it, can anyone help me please?
[03:42] <stevelitt> wildman_, I'm currently on 192.168.100.2, and I want to see if I have connectivity to 192.168.100.96, so I do this command from the command prompt of 192.168.100.2: "ping 192.168.100.96", and don't include the quotes. Ping is your most basic network diagnostic tool. If ping doesn't work, then probably nothing will, except if they have an IMCP blocking firewall, and you don't need to know that yet.
[03:42] <xangua> jen_: i don't think there is a Health dedicated channel on freenode
[03:43] <ketterer> Hello, the otherday I purged a ppa, it then uninstalled like over 100 packages, left me with out cammand line, so i used the knoledge i did have to reinstall "ubunut-desktop" wich seemed to get most things working
[03:43] <ketterer> it booted and worked fine, now i go to reinstall skype and i get
[03:43] <jen_> awww maaan
[03:44] <ketterer> ketterer@ketterer-ubuntubook:~$ sudo apt-get install skype
[03:44] <ketterer> Reading package lists... Done
[03:44] <ketterer> Building dependency tree
[03:44] <ketterer> Reading state information... Done
[03:44] <ketterer> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[03:44] <FloodBot1> ketterer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:44] <ketterer> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[03:44] <zykotick9> !paste | ketterer
[03:44] <rootcoma> Anyone know what may cause a ubuntu 11 server to boot without attaching a terminal?
[03:44] <rootcoma> I have to hit f1 to get to a prompt
[03:45]  * greenwolf is the greatest!!
[03:45] <hearno_> rootcoma I had this issue on my box for awhile
[03:45] <zykotick9> rootcoma: it's plymouth
[03:46] <GhostWolf> can anyone help me with my webcam issue please? i need to get this working before the morning
[03:46] <rootcoma> zykotick9: Is that to say that it is working as designed?
[03:46] <ketterer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/850887/
[03:47] <wildman_> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_at_2012-02-20_20_46_01-Kqfv3Qyz.png
[03:47] <zykotick9> rootcoma: not really, there was a bug about server/plymouth having to alt+f1 in Lucid...
[03:47] <wildman_> this is what it did
[03:47] <ludlow> ubuntu servers are slow lately
[03:48] <rootcoma> zykotick9: Thank you
[03:48] <stevelitt> wildman_, OK good, you know you have connectivity. How do you narrow it down more? Think of a good way and tell me.
[03:48] <ketterer> does anyone know how to reinsall all the packeges  that i lost OR fix my dependancies problem
[03:48] <zykotick9> ketterer: if you have broken packages you can try "sudo apt-get -f install" as a general fix, but doubt it will do anything.
[03:49] <ketterer> it has not
[03:49] <stevelitt> Hey wildman_, I think the reason we've reached an impasse is neither of us knows exactly what Nautilus does or how it works or how it detects other hosts or how to configure it. It would help to read documents about Nautilus.
[03:50] <ketterer> i tried 'sudo apt-get clean all' and 'sudo apt-get -f install" and 'sudo apt-get update'
[03:50] <wildman_> ok thanks i will go and see what i can learn then thanks for your time wildman
[03:51] <Deihmos> just installed ubuntu. for some reason the laptop fan sound is onn full at all times. can't find a way to fix it
[03:51] <Deihmos> laptop fan runs on full.
[03:51] <Xeneth> ketterer, you may need to reinstall if you removes repositories and do not know what got uninstalled.
[03:52] <ketterer> it as an added ppa, and i do have the history in USC that shows what was remvoed
[03:52] <GhostWolf> ok going to ask again, can anyone help me with a webcam issue with skype on ubuntu? i installed a program called cheese, start that up but when i go on and call myself on a laptop, im using a desktop on here, i can't see myself with my webcam on this computer
[03:54] <Xeneth> ketterer, then if you can do updates, you likely will need to systematically reinstall everything that got uninstalled.  then remove what you don't want when it's working.
[03:54] <ketterer> hmm ok
[03:55] <Xeneth> ketterer, it's a pain, that's why I suggested reinstal.  Likely faster.
[03:55] <ketterer> i dont mean to be lazy, but is there a way to make a list of all the packeges and then install them at once
[03:55] <almoxarife> GhostWolf: look at Xorg.0.log in /var/log , see if the webcam is mentioned first, if it is then life is a bit easier
[03:55] <ketterer> ok i get it
[03:55] <ketterer> i will try do it
[03:56] <GhostWolf> almoxarife, um just sec i always have an issue with my webcam, normally in windows i use software to be able to use it, but i know with linux/ubuntu its difficult
[03:57] <Xeneth> GhostWolf, if it works in cheese, I doubt it's an issue with the cam.  I bet it's just getting skype to use it.  That's where I get lost.  :)  GL
[03:57] <jak2000> su dhclient why not work ?
[03:58] <GhostWolf> Xeneth, well i have issues with any program not getting it to work, like amsn or skype, even those sites that you can use your webcam on
[03:59] <Xeneth> GhostWolf, I thought I saw you state that cheese worked.  did I mis-read?
[04:00] <GhostWolf> Xeneth, did i say it didn't? sorry it does work i can start cheese and my webcam's light comes on and i can see myself in the window on cheese
[04:00] <GhostWolf> sorry if i said it didn't or interpit that id didn't work
[04:01] <GhostWolf> and for as with almoxarife's post i have the log opened its a big log, so i don't know where to look
[04:01] <almoxarife> GhostWolf: nevermind the log, your issue is configuring skype to use the webcam
[04:01] <tking0036> has anyone tried the linux mint mate desktop with ubuntu
[04:01] <Xeneth> GhostWolf, so that verifies the drivers and hardware.  It's making it accessable by other programs where the issue sounds like.
[04:01] <GhostWolf> almoxarife, ok do you know how i would do that?
[04:01] <GhostWolf> Xeneth, so if cheese works its the driver issue then?
[04:01] <almoxarife> GhostWolf: i did it once, skype has a configuration screen, find it
[04:02] <Xeneth> GhostWolf, if cheese works, the drivers work
[04:02] <blud> anybody help me get my laptop to output to the TV?
[04:02] <GhostWolf> almoxarife, when i installed it on the laptop which did the config, but when i installed it on this pc, it didn't and i see the video section in options for skype but don't see any configuration
[04:03] <homecable> hello
[04:03] <Xeneth> GhostWolf, it's a bit out of my area, I'm a network guy.  Just wanted to point that out so it narrows down your search.
[04:03] <GhostWolf> Xeneth, ok thanks
[04:03] <soreau> blud: Do you have the tv connected to the laptop?
[04:03] <sacarlson> GhostWolf: I think this is the v4l vl42 compatibilty problem with skype http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/219
[04:03] <blud> yes :)
[04:04] <soreau> ! who | blud
[04:04] <homecable> i installed a new drive to add more space for /var/www/pub should i mount the new disk to /var/www/pub or mount it to /mnt/disk3 and link folder pub to /var/www/pub ?
[04:04] <almoxarife> GhostWolf: are you saying that the configuration options for skype look different depending on the platform?
[04:04] <GhostWolf> sacarlson, that looks like its for linux mint distro, not ubuntu
[04:04] <sacarlson> GhostWolf: sorry that's v4l v4l2  and they have a posible fix in that link but I failed to get it to work for me, I ended up getting another $10 cam that did work
[04:05] <blud> soreau: yes i have the tv connected to the laptop
[04:05] <sacarlson> GhostWolf: mint is almost the same we use the same libs
[04:05] <GhostWolf> almoxarife, no i am saying i don't see any config for the video at all it just has the video option under the options for skype on ubuntu
[04:05] <soreau> blud: Did you try gnome-display-properties to see if it's detected?
[04:05] <ketterer> sorry i missed the last ten mins
[04:05] <ketterer> i thought i minimized it
[04:06] <sacarlson> GhostWolf: you can do modprobe -l |grep v4l  and see if your cam is v4l or v4l2 compatible
[04:06] <blud> soreau: well i clicked on Monitors and it does see 2 monitors one being the laptop and the other being the vga out I guess. Or if I do xrandr it sees 2 screens you know
[04:06] <soreau> blud: Can you pastebin the output of xrandr?
[04:06] <soreau> blud: to pastebin.com
[04:06] <GhostWolf> when i go to video devices almoxarife it has a popdown menu to choose the webcam and the only thing i can select is what it shows which is Camera (/dev/video0)
[04:07] <ketterer> sorry to ask and leave, But is there a way you can just install all packages that were removed
[04:07] <blud> soreau: I'll have to get the laptop online first , but i'll go do that now
[04:07] <GhostWolf> sacarlson, well im not going to buy another webcam really, don't have the money and i need to get this to work by the morning
[04:07] <sacarlson> GhostWolf: well then you you could try the preload as instructed in the link
[04:08] <GhostWolf> im looking at that right now sacarlson
[04:08] <almoxarife> GhostWolf: ok, the only option is /dev/video...... ?
[04:09] <GhostWolf> almoxarife, for the camera yes thats the only thing that is on the dropdown box for the video device on my skype on this machine. just want to make sure im using ubntu on this pc not the laptop
[04:10] <almoxarife> GhostWolf: want to make sure ........ using ubuntu????? not sure?
[04:11] <GhostWolf> almoxarife, im just telling you this machine im talking to you from is the ubuntu machine, cause im trying to test my webcam on skype on a laptop
[04:12] <almoxarife> GhostWolf: you have skype ready to make a video/call otherwise? on what ever machine, shut it down, restart and go into the call process
[04:14] <blud> well, new problem, it says something like wireless network not available firmware not installed
[04:15] <realm174> Could someone point me to a step by step on how to setup dual display on 11.04, GPU is Radeon X1600. What I would like is one display at 1024x768 and the other one at 640x480. Is that something possible?
[04:15] <hackview> Anyone know: Are all the next ubuntu release's plan on having the new interface? (unity?)
[04:16] <Xeneth> hackview, Likely, not sure.  I am seriously considering switching my laptop to fadora over it.
[04:17] <GhostWolf> damn he left, i don't know if he meant this pc or the laptop :S
[04:17] <xangua> hackview: yes
[04:17] <hackview> Is Fedora on their game again now? I thought the ubuntu series were doing the best for user friendly *nix desktop (not serv) hopefully secure too!
[04:18] <hiexpo> !fedora
[04:18] <Lint> "on their game"?
[04:18] <hackview> fedora was sucking for a few versions :)
[04:19] <blud> you could use xbuntu with xfce or something
[04:19] <jak2000> hackview not exist dhclient in ubuntu? (su dhclietn) not work
[04:19] <sacarlson> GhostWolf: as you can see ubuntu has the same problem with skype http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-997807.html
[04:20] <Lint> what does it mean?
[04:20] <blud> it means "doing a good job".. making a good product, etc
[04:20] <GhostWolf> sacarlson, yea i know but normally i don't know if its with the webcam i use or not cause my webcam is somewhat old but works fine
[04:21] <sacarlson> GhostWolf: yes the old cams us v4l and new cams v4l2 that's why yours won't work without preload in skype
[04:21] <GhostWolf> sacarlson, skype wasn't preloaded in the version of ubuntu i have if thats what you mean
[04:22] <hackview> xubuntu is more light weight on resources then ubuntu? This would be more secure and faster? :) I run VM's and mess with some games/emulators in ubuntu. Hopefully it all works with no issues.
[04:23] <Zac_o_O> hello all
[04:23] <Zac_o_O> is there a default /etc/netatalk directory anywhere?
[04:23] <Zac_o_O> i just deleted mine ;S
[04:24] <roasted> Question - would I be correct that the syntax rsync -a ssh would be how I would start off the rsync over ssh command for data backup over the network?
[04:24] <sacarlson> GhostWolf: this is a workaround method to make v4l compatible v4l2
[04:24] <GhostWolf> btw sacarlson i just did what that first linke you gave me and it works, but i don't know if its the laptop or not but the video for my webcam looks fuzzy and slow on the laptop
[04:24] <blud> hackview: xbuntu is supposed to be more lightweight but i have read people saying it isnt (idk)
[04:25] <Lint> is it possible to select a session language in lightdm from ubuntu 11.10?
[04:26] <hackview> blud: what do you prefer to run? If you are like me you probably have 5-6 different OS's & screwing around - do you have a #1?
[04:29] <herofvirtue> help
[04:29] <GhostWolf> herofvirtue, no one can't help if you don't ask what you need. saying help would get you ignored just saying
[04:30] <Boingy> Hi,
[04:31] <herofvirtue> lol
[04:31] <herofvirtue> sorry was trying to use the help!
[04:31] <herofvirtue> feature
[04:32] <jak2000> in ubuntu how to assign a dynamic IP?  dhclient not exist?
[04:32] <herofvirtue> trying to get used to triggers again if theres any here
[04:32] <Boingy> I'm new to Ubuntu, got 11.10. Currently when I login it freezes within about 5 seconds. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace does nothing. I'm fairly certain it's a GPU issue (I have a Radeon 6950) From googling I've read suggestions to use the proprietary AMD drivers but even getting them is tricky when I can't even get a browser opened without freezing. Any ideas of now I can update on something so broken?
[04:32] <Lint> dhclient definitely exists
[04:32] <jak2000> lint
[04:33] <jak2000> how to assign a dinamic ip?
[04:33] <Zac_o_O> is there a default /etc/netatalk directory anywhere
[04:34] <herofvirtue> list!
[04:34] <herofvirtue> !list
[04:35] <almoxarife> Boingy: its not the one you are on now?
[04:35] <goddard> hi
[04:35] <blud> hackview: no im pretty new to ubuntu, i have no advice about that sry
[04:35] <Boingy> hmm? I'm on another OS now trying to research how to fix it
[04:35] <goddard> i had a question about will i screw anything up if I install kde on my system?
[04:36] <Boingy> same machine though yes
[04:36] <roasted> Question - if I rsync data from 1 system to another over the WAN, do I need ssh keys to be in place for it to work? Does rsync depend on SSH?
[04:37] <zykotic10> roasted: you can use rsync without ssh, if you have some other method of transfering the files (nfs for example)
[04:37] <blud> soreau: http://pastebin.com/2WHReDH5
[04:37] <almoxarife> Boingy: ok, you can work at terminal level on ubuntu? or is it total freeze?
[04:37] <roasted> zykotic10, ssh would be optimal I would assume, eh?
[04:37] <zykotic10> roasted: ? up to you really
[04:37] <roasted> zykotic10, I'm speaking from a security standpoint. Is there a better option?
[04:38] <zykotic10> roasted: if security is a concern, use ssh
[04:38] <roasted> thanks. appreciate it. :)
[04:38] <Boingy> almoxarife: total freeze. I'm reading now about booting with the option vga=791 but I'm not sure how to do that. If I try to boot normally I can't do anything before it will freeze
[04:39] <roasted> zykotic10, do you know of an rsync based app? I'm debating between walking my parents through setting up an rsync script or if I can direct them to a simple gui. Would you know of any by chance?
[04:39] <hiexpo> hola guys and gals
[04:39] <soreau> blud: try this in your terminal:  xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 --right-of LVDS1
[04:40] <soreau> blud: Oh that's what it already is
[04:40] <zykotic10> roasted: sorry, i've only ever used the terminal command?  no idea if there is a gui.
[04:40] <kalimojo> hi, whats the best way to copy an xp cd - for a friend
[04:40] <roasted> zykotic10, there's many guis actually. I just figured I'd ask. :P
[04:40] <soreau> blud: Well it's usually reported as svideo or something in xrandr.. unless it's maybe a flat screen tv?
[04:40] <hiexpo> kalimojo, do what ?
[04:40] <kalimojo> m
[04:41] <kalimojo> hiexpo make a copy of a cd in ubuntu
[04:41] <soreau> blud: Your xrandr output shows both are enabled and in clone mode at 1024x768
[04:41] <blud> yeah it;s a flat screen tv, im connecting it via vga
[04:41] <zykotic10> !warez | kalimojo
[04:41] <blud> er
[04:41] <blud> soreau: yeah it;s a flat screen tv, im connecting it via vga
[04:41] <soreau> blud: If you don't have a signal to the tv I'm guessing it's a driver bug
[04:41] <blud> soreau: my guess is that my tv does not like that resolution or something so it doesnt like it or something
[04:41] <hiexpo> kalimojo what kinda cd music etc ?
[04:41] <blud> hmm
[04:42] <soreau> blud: But try changing the modes
[04:42] <soreau> blud: You could be right, it's just in a wrong mode the tv can't use
[04:42] <fireball124> Hi, I want to have an option "open in terminator" in my right click menu instead of "open in terminal" however I have a fresh install of ubuntu natty and dont have "open in terminal" option so it is better to have "open in terminator" pls advice
[04:43] <blud> soreau: how do i change modes?
[04:43] <kalimojo> its not a pirate. i bought it and paid for it.now it is corrupt. making a backup copy is perfectly legit
[04:43] <ifontaine> Hi everyone ! Could someone help ? After restarting apache I've got suddendly a : sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[04:43] <hiexpo> fireball124, change the options
[04:43] <blud> soreau: btw i beleive its supposed to be 1360x768
[04:43] <ifontaine> SSLCertificateKeyFile: file '/etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key' does not exist or is empty
[04:43] <Zac_o_O> anyone have any idea why my /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf files are gone?
[04:43] <soreau> blud: For instance with xrandr, you would do: xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1600x1200 --same-as LVDS1.
[04:43] <fireball124> i am a complete newbie hiexpo can u suggest me step by step....
[04:43] <soreau> blud: erm.. no period at the end of that command
[04:44] <soreau> blud: Ok then xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1360x768 --right-of LVDS1
[04:45] <blud> soreau: ok i will go try that
[04:45] <fireball124> hiexpo pls help
[04:45] <Zac_o_O> are there default /etc/netatalk files anywhere?
[04:46] <hiexpo> fireball124, right click the file click open properties and change it
[04:47] <fireball124> which file properties hiexpo?
[04:48] <hiexpo> fireball124, right click the file you want to open and than hit properties and than change what app it opens with
[04:49] <fireball124> I dont mean that I want the "open in terminator "option in my right click menu hiexpo
[04:49] <hiexpo> must be my night
[04:49] <kalimojo> so how do i copy a cd ?
[04:49] <Zac_o_O> who is the bot in here?
[04:49] <gordon1234> kalimojo, you will not be able to make a copy of a corrupt CD. It is easy enough to make a slipstream cd that will have all the latest service packs, suggest you google it as it is off topic here.
[04:49] <hiexpo> fireball124, explain whatyou wanna do ?
[04:49] <Ludlow> anyone here using irssi?
[04:50] <kalimojo> ok gordon1234
[04:50] <fireball124> hiexpo, I need the "open in terminal" option in my right click context menu
[04:50] <hiexpo> !irssi
[04:50] <Ludlow> !irssi
[04:51] <hiexpo> one sec fireball124 let me see
[04:51] <fireball124> hiexpo I got it I got that option by refering to this link http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/12/add-open-in-terminal-command-to-nautilus-context-menu-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/ enjoy!
[04:52] <fireball124> now it opens directly in terminator hiexpo, maybe even u can use it ok enjoy
[04:52] <dRounse> hii
[04:52] <hiexpo> fireball124, kool good deal
[04:53] <Lesterwood> join #/g/enki
[04:54] <hiexpo> fireball124, I use terminator but use it manually
[04:54] <kalimojo> sorry to go ot but whats a goodserver/channel for general chat ?
[04:54] <roasted> Is there an rsync gui with some sort of scheduler or am I best off with my own rsync script and cron?
[04:54] <fireball124> now I will use it directly from a click of the mouse hiexpo
[04:55] <Lesterwood> whoops...
[04:56] <cocinacam20> wanna see my boobs? http://freecam5.goodluckwith.us/
[04:56] <taipres> that guy was just spamming efnet
[04:57] <fireball124> yeah taipres
[04:57] <fireball124> wicked webcam spammers
[04:57] <aeon-ltd> well it's mildy better than the ssl crap that spreading last year
[04:58] <aeon-ltd> *that was
[04:58] <eddie_> rubylearning.org
[04:59] <fireball124> guys, is teamviewer for linux [personal use] free? or do we need to register and pay the buck?
[05:04] <NitroTiger> Whats the best sytem profiler to use on 11.10.
[05:05] <kalimojo> hi i need to chat real bad. where should i go ?
[05:05] <kalimojo> hello
[05:08] <kalimojo> am i offline ?
[05:09] <napalm54> Nope
[05:09] <Xeneth> topic = channel.  all I can say.
[05:09] <kalimojo> strange name napalm54
[05:10] <Jordan_U> !ot | kalimojo
[05:10] <napalm54> Same can be said about the majority of online aliases.
[05:11] <kalimojo> ubottu i tried off-topic but noone was there
[05:13] <kalimojo> ubottu you pass the turing test
[05:16] <kalimojo> sorry to go ot but whats a goodserver/channel for general chat ?
[05:16] <Xeneth> !tracepath
[05:18] <saquib> h
[05:18] <sacarlson> jak2000: so sudo dhclient eth0  should work or networkmanager should have another option
[05:19] <virtuaposta> hi all
[05:19] <virtuaposta> any suggestions for best intrusion detection system?
[05:20] <sacarlson> virtuaposta: motion is cool to detect changes in video feeds
[05:20] <Interretano> Hi.
[05:20] <sacarlson> virtuaposta: apt-get install motion
[05:21] <achipanaluchu> hi all
[05:21] <Interretano> Does anyone know any good channels for talking about ereaders?
[05:21] <makara> I installed xfce/uxbuntu in ubuntu 11.10. How to remove it?
[05:21] <kalimojo> hi achipanalucho
[05:26]  * kalimojo hi
[05:27] <trakowski77> hi..
[05:27] <trakowski77> I've just updated my ubuntu, and I'
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> trakowski77: try hitting ENTER less
[05:27] <trakowski77> and there appears to be a problem in gnome-shell
[05:27] <NitroTiger> You what..?
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> trakowski77: what is the issue in Gnome-shell ?
[05:28] <goddard> does anyone have the newest updates for Firefox install so I can see if I am the only one with this bug?
[05:28] <NitroTiger> motion
[05:28] <trakowski77> I have a dual headed system
[05:28] <trakowski77> and the secondary screen has a white space on the top
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> goddard: make a new user and see if it happens there
[05:28] <trakowski77> where the menu appears on the primary screen
[05:29] <Xeneth> I have 10.0.2
[05:29] <goddard> ActionParsnip: good idea
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> trakowski77: so what is the issue?
[05:30] <trakowski77> It looks like the background is shifted downwards for some reason - I can send a screen shot and the list of updated packages
[05:30] <trakowski77> just not sure where to send the screenshot
[05:30] <the7ak3> imgur
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> trakowski77: imageshack or similar will do it
[05:30] <trakowski77> ok gimme a sec
[05:31] <Ja23> Hi I really need help!  My computer wont boot! this is the error: "Aggregation not enabled for tid because load = 0"  Has anyone ever seen it?  If you can help I'll make you cookies!
[05:31] <Ja23> more info: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/188358
[05:31] <the7ak3> trakowski77: www.imgur.com its the easiest to use
[05:31] <dRounse> hi
[05:32] <kalimojo> dRounse hi
[05:32] <Ja23> dRounse: hi
[05:33] <trakowski77> http://i.imgur.com/e7yeR.png
[05:33] <trakowski77> here we go
[05:33] <dRounse> whats up
[05:33] <trakowski77> so it's just the white stripe on the right monitor
[05:33] <trakowski77> it appears there regardless of what background image is there
[05:33] <trakowski77> and just started appearing after last ubuntu udpate
[05:34] <dRounse> i dont like gnome shell
[05:34] <trakowski77> lol
[05:34] <trakowski77> i DO
[05:34] <kalimojo> drinking beer and its 5am
[05:34] <dRounse> lol
[05:34] <dRounse> i like gnome 2
[05:34] <trakowski77> I hated gnome 2
[05:34] <trakowski77> I hated it so much i used kde ;)
[05:35] <urfr332gO> !ot
[05:35] <dRounse> i dont like kde lol
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> trakowski77: so is the issue the white bar?
[05:35] <kalimojo> i like gnome. unity is bad imo
[05:35] <trakowski77> yes
[05:35] <dRounse> i hate unity
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> kalimojo: unity is a shell for Gnome
[05:35] <urfr332gO> kalimojo, dRounse ^^^^
[05:35] <Xeneth> trakowski77, does the white space act lik a panel?  when you click?
[05:35] <trakowski77> no
[05:35] <trakowski77> it's dead
[05:35] <ludlow> whats a should repalcement shell for unity?
[05:35] <trakowski77> I can move a window in there
[05:35] <newcmury> http://www.change.org/petitions/united-states-congress-extend-the-ban-on-female-circumcision-to-include-male-circumcision-as-well?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition
[05:36] <kalimojo> ActionParsnip oops
[05:36] <dRounse> i know its a shell, but that doesnt mean i need to like it;)
[05:36] <trakowski77> dRounse: I hate unity as well
[05:36] <MrKeuner> hello, how can i add a power manager warning when battery drops down to 40%?
[05:36] <urfr332gO> !op | newcmury
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> ludlow: Gnome-shell is a replacement, or you could switch desktops altogether to xfce which is a lot like Gnome2
[05:37] <dRounse> yea thats what i use or lxde
[05:37] <ludlow> actionparsnip: what do you use?
[05:37] <Lint> I wouldn't recommend XFCE as they managed to get 1/2-year past the release schedule
[05:37] <trakowski77> ActionParsnip: Would you care to see the list of updated packages ? The only suspicious one to me is libpng
[05:37] <pangolin> newcmury: Please do not spam in here.
[05:37] <ludlow> lint: what do you use?
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> ludlow: lxde and unity2D
[05:37] <Lint> ludlow, gnome-shell
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> trakowski77: I use precise so am not much use to you
[05:38] <dRounse> i use lxde or xfce
[05:38] <ludlow> lint: the gome that comes with 11.10?
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> ludlow: 3.2
[05:38] <ludlow> gnome 3.2?
[05:38] <dRounse> i hate gnome 3
[05:39] <xchrisx> hey guys - having trouble with installing ubuntu (xubuntu specifically), my live cd boots and i can install to HD fine, but when i reboot to run the system hangs and i can't boot up.. where should i start troubleshooting?
[05:39] <ludlow> should I install gnome from the u software manager ?
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> xchrisx: what GPU do you use?
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> ludlow: if you installed Ubuntu, it is already installed
[05:40] <jeeptrash> exit
[05:40] <dRounse> xchrisx i have that problem, i installed ubuntu and then installed, xubuntu-desktop and then ran the command to remove ubuntu programs
[05:40] <Xeneth> xchrisx, I had that happen with a bad download before.
[05:41] <ludlow> unity bar is ok but its get the way at times
[05:41] <the7ak3> Hey everybody. Has anyone ever run into a problem where the screen gets all scrambled and everything freezes after ubuntu wakes up from sleep?
[05:41] <Lint> xchrisx, hangs? 100% CPU? 0%CPU? graphic mode? text mode? etc.
[05:41] <ludlow> I rather have it at the bottom
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> ludlow: install xfce4 and your desktop will look and feel like Gnome2
[05:41] <dRounse> ludlow thats why i hate unity
[05:41] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Hi there...it's been a couple weeks since we had chat.  Could I ask you about how I go about changing my login name, the one that comes up after initially boot up ?
[05:41] <grendal-prime> how can i tell if the iptables verison i have has tproxy support compiled in?
[05:41] <ludlow> drounse me to
[05:42] <dRounse> i loooooove gnome 2
[05:42] <dRounse> they need to bring it back
[05:42] <trakowski77> ludlow: personally I prefer the gnome-shell arrangement, where the whole thing is key activated.
[05:42] <ludlow> whats is the deafult for linuxmint?
[05:42] <Lint> ludlow, cinnamon
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> dRounse: its not developed by the gnome2 team. There are forks of it but there aren't supported here
[05:42] <homecable> why not use debian ?
[05:42] <Xeneth> I am a fan of gnome 2 too.
[05:42] <ludlow> ludlow: its it possible to install it?
[05:42] <zykotic10> dRounse: FYI debian stable will use gnome2 for another year at least
[05:43] <Lint> homecable, ubuntu is more rich
[05:43] <vindav> Hi there...anybody know how I go about changing my login name, the one that comes up after initially boot up ?
[05:43] <dRounse> ive used debian, i prefer ubuntu
[05:43] <homecable> Lint learn apt-get and u can have the best of the best
[05:43] <trakowski77> I could never digest gnome until gnome 3 came up.. I did not mind xfce, but gnome 2 was driving me nuts.
[05:44] <trakowski77> centos will use gnome 2 for another 10 years.. ;)
[05:44] <dRounse> vindav just go to user accounts
[05:44] <homecable> i use linux on headless servers
[05:44] <homecable> so i dont play with xwindows
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> vindav: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-change-rename-user-name-id/   not used it though
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> homecable: apt-fast is better :)
[05:45] <dRounse> apt-get is the best
[05:45] <dRounse> thats why i stay with debian based oses
[05:45] <SuperNoeMan> hey how do I logout of an xsession from the terminal?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> apt-fast = apt-get + axel
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> SuperNoeMan: killall -u $USER
[05:45] <SuperNoeMan> the equivalent command of the upper right clickable buttom
[05:45] <SuperNoeMan> ActionParsnip: whaaa?
[05:46] <SuperNoeMan> ActionParsnip: I'm pretty sure that's not the regular procedure
[05:46] <Lint> also ubuntu doen't have obcession with freedomzz
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> SuperNoeMan: it'll log you out by killing all the processes spawed by your user
[05:46] <ludlow> will installing cinnamon on ubuntu break something?
[05:46] <SuperNoeMan> yeah, true, but it's kind of brutal
[05:46] <homecable> http://darkinfo.org/phpsysinfo/
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> ludlow: possibly, cinammon isn't supported here if it does, too
[05:46] <homecable> thats my box
[05:46] <urfr332gO> ludlow, not supported. :)
[05:46] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  thank you for the link.  I'm going to try it out.  I'll be right back.
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> SuperNoeMan: works :)
[05:46] <ludlow> yeah I know
[05:46] <ludlow> brb
[05:47] <bazhang> homecable, why are you pasting that here
[05:47] <Lint> ludlow, you can minimize damage rebuilding cinnamon packages for ubuntu
[05:47] <homecable> its linux related
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> SuperNoeMan: maybe the gnome-session-save command does it
[05:47] <bazhang> homecable, its not ubuntu support, so dont
[05:47] <SuperNoeMan> I happen to not be using gnome right now
[05:47] <homecable> most servers run debian
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> homecable: this is Ubuntu support, not spam with useless links..
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> homecable: most servers will run redhat
[05:48] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please , chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:48] <homecable> ubuntu is a spin off of debian :P
[05:48]  * kalimojo hi
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> homecable: so?
[05:50] <Lint> can I use apt-get do download a simgle Precise package?
[05:50] <kalimojo> sorry to go ot but whats a goodserver/channel for general chat ?
[05:50] <bazhang> Lint, why would you need to
[05:50] <bazhang> kalimojo, #defocus or #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[05:50] <Lint> bazhang, it fixes a certain bug
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> Lint: precise issupportedin #ubuntu+1
[05:50] <dRounse> i know this isnt the place to ask but is openSUSE good for servers?
[05:50] <bazhang> Lint never mix package versions
[05:50] <tacomaster> if i was wanting to get it to programming for linux what would be the best first language in the terms of "simi user friendliness" doesn't have to baby you or anything and will allow you to work on a great deal of gnu/linux code. would it be C?
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> dRounse: I'd ask in #opensuse
[05:50] <bazhang> dRounse, try #suse
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> tacomaster: have you ever programmed?
[05:51] <Lint> bazhang, it's noarch package, so it will be ok
[05:51] <tacomaster> ActionParsnip: alittle nothing major tho
[05:51] <bazhang> Lint, no, it won't. it's not supported and will introduce other issues
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> tacomaster: I'd learn C then, start with simple stuff and build up
[05:52] <bazhang> tacomaster, programming talk in ##programming or #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:52] <tacomaster> bazhang: mb
[05:52] <bazhang> tacomaster, pardon?
[05:53] <Lint> then how to download a single Precise source package? can it be done via apt-get
[05:53] <tacomaster> mb = my bad for talking about programming in this channel not the offtopic
[05:53] <bazhang> Lint, packages.ubuntu.com   , mixing package version is a super bad idea
[05:53] <Lint> bazhang, I will rebuild it for oneiric
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> Lint: I'd just upgrade :)
[05:54] <kalimojo> why wont #defocus let me post
[05:54] <bazhang> kalimojo, ask in #freenode
[05:54] <Lint> ActionParsnip, if I upgrade, there will be 700MB of updates each week or two, it's too much for me
[05:54] <bazhang> or read the actual topic there
[05:54] <damo22> where can i talk about running linux on a mac?
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> damo22: as long as the Linux is Ubuntu, yes
[05:55] <damo22> nope
[05:55] <bazhang> ##linux
[05:55] <Xeneth> damo22, or to ther distro you want to install
[05:56] <damo22> i rolled my own
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> damo22: then its not supported here
[05:56] <homecable> apt-src
[05:56] <damo22> ill try linux
[05:56] <damo22> #
[05:57] <extender> when I try to boot from a live usb, it drops to initramfs, how can I troubleshoot?
[05:57] <Xeneth> damo22, Then likly the basic linux channel like bazhang stated
[05:57] <homecable> apt-get [options] source pkg1 [pkg2 ...]
[05:57] <urfr332gO> extender, what release?
[05:57] <extender> latest desktop release, the usb was created with lili
[05:57] <urfr332gO> extender, lili?
[05:58] <[deXter]> Linux Live Usb Creator
[05:58] <Xeneth> What's the next LTS?
[05:58] <bazhang> Xeneth, in 12.04
[05:58] <urfr332gO> extender, is that correct Linux Live Usb Creator
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> extender: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[05:58] <extender> urfr332gO: yes
[05:59] <urfr332gO> extender, have you checked the md5sum? I would ude unetbootin if the sum is correct.
[05:59] <urfr332gO> usere
[06:00] <extender> I'll check the md5, I've tried several different ways to createa live usb and none work anymore, if I unplug all the hard drives it will boot
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | extender
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> extender: a bad ISO will make a bad install media
[06:01] <NyLes> are the people helping me awhile ago still here?
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: maybe
[06:02] <Lint> extender, or you can use torrents for guaranteed delivery
[06:03] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: there, you're one of them lol, i have here the xorg.conf from puppy, my video card runs fine with puppy, can you examine it for me? so i will know what to integrate in my ubuntu's xorg.conf?
[06:03] <extender> pretty sure lili verifies before creation
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: sure, pastebin the file. I've used puppy to make an xorg.conf file before
[06:04] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: pastebin? i'm about to upload the file at mediafire? is there a faster way?
[06:04] <zykotic10> !paste | NyLes
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: no need to use mediafire, just copy the text to a pastebin which ubottu just explained
[06:06] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: oh thanks.. wait..
[06:06] <Lint> how to rebuild debian source (two tarballs and DSC file)?
[06:06] <NyLes> like this one? http://paste.ubuntu.com/850965/
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: indeed, waaaaay faster
[06:07] <NitroTiger> How could I get wirehark working under normal user?
[06:07] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: thanks :)) i'll wait for your recommendation, i really want to usu ubuntu lol
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: looks fine, you will need to have the proprietary driver installed for it to work
[06:09] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: i tried installing it but still no video..
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: if you have the driver installed, you can run:   sudo nvidia-xconfig      and get an xorg.conf file made for you
[06:10] <sacarlson> NitroTiger: I had to setup a script to bring up wireshark as sudo, I'm not sure it will run any other way than  sudo
[06:10] <TheMaster> gksudo is recommended since it's a GUI.
[06:11] <NitroTiger> Isn't there any work around
[06:11] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: ok, i'll try it again.. i should install nvidia-96 right? may video card is NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[06:11] <sacarlson> TheMaster: NitroTiger: agree'ed gksudo should be used
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: worth a try, you may want to stick to nouveau
[06:12] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: ok but how can i use nouveau?
[06:12] <NitroTiger> Well that works but what exactly hides interface to be seen by normal user
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: uninstall the proprietary driver and it will be used by default, or change the driver line in your xorg.conf file
[06:14] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: im using ubuntu 10.04, i click system > administration > hardware drivers
[06:14] <xchrisx> sorry guys.. my computer froze. i'll repost the question: having trouble with installing ubuntu (xubuntu specifically), my live cd boots and i can install to HD fine, but when i reboot to run the system hangs and i can't boot up.. where should i start troubleshooting?
[06:14] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: and it says the driver is not activated. what will i do now?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: ah, ten the default will be nv, not nouveau
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: considered using Oneiric, the later drivers and such may help
[06:15] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: how will i use ? so i will just ignore what the Hardware Drivers prompt to me that the driver is not activated?
[06:15] <sacarlson> NitroTiger: I think it has to do with it needs to change the nic to be in promiscuous mode so that in this case requires a sudo to change
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: you could try:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> xchrisx: what GPU do you use?
[06:16] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: i thought i i should stick with nouveau?
[06:16] <NitroTiger> You might be right
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: not sure nouveau is in Lucid, I could be wrong
[06:16] <xchrisx> ActionParsnip, Nvidia Quadro FX 580
[06:17] <sacarlson> NitroTiger: you could probly find a way to allow a standard user priv of changing nic's to promiscuous but I'm not sure how
[06:17] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: what about the one you mentioned? Oneiric?
[06:17] <zykotic10> NitroTiger: you might want to do an internet search for a debian mailing list post from 2011 entitled "Running Wireshark as non-root in squeeze" i'm not sure if the solution(s) provided will work in ubuntu, but there's a chance.  good luck.
[06:18] <sacarlson> NitroTiger: oh you could add your user to a group in sudo that can only run wireshark as sudo
[06:18] <Ja23> Hi I really need help!  My computer wont boot! this is the error: "Aggregation not enabled for tid because load = 0"  Has anyone ever seen it?  If you can help I'll make you cookies!
[06:18] <NyLes> what is Oneiric?
[06:18] <NitroTiger> I already did that
[06:18] <zykotic10> !cookie > Ja23
[06:19] <blud> looks like a bunch of hits on that on google Ja23
[06:19] <blud> sry i know nothing about it, looks like some wireless network problem though on google
[06:19] <NitroTiger> sacarlson: and I found some documentation jus for that..
[06:19] <sacarlson> NitroTiger: cool deal
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> !oneiric | NyLes
[06:20] <xchrisx> ActionParsnip, if it helps: i'm installing from xubuntu 11.10 live cd (booting into cd then installing), and when i reboot the system hangs on a different message each time (one was about checking battery status, though i'm on a desktop)
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> xchrisx: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[06:21] <xchrisx> ActionParsnip, when i boot into the live cd or from the hd?
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> xchrisx: both if necessary
[06:22] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: ow i see.. i've removed nvidia drivers, i should restart now then nouveau will be be automatically used? if there is?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: not sure nouveau is in Lucid, you will use the nv driver which should work
[06:25] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: if i use nvidia drivers, the xorg.conf that i showed you will be the exact xorg.conf that will be generated?
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: the one generated will be slightly different but that one looks great :)
[06:27] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: do you think it will work if i overwrite the one generated by nvidia with the one i just showed you?
[06:27] <yiyezhou123> Hi,does anyone know in mldonkey why still forbid me when i have added my IP in allow_ips?
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: worth a try, rename the current one so you can keep the text
[06:30] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: whats the difference with nvidia-96 and nvidia-96-modaliases?
[06:30] <TheMaster> yiyezhou123: Did you restart the program/service?
[06:31] <yiyezhou123> TheMaster: Hi,i input "mlnet" in command line.
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: the modaliases are what the additional drivers app uses as far as I am aware...
[06:31] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: thanks..
[06:32] <goddard> anyone have trouble getting multiple monitors to work with nvidia?
[06:32] <Ben64> !anyone | goddard
[06:33] <TheMaster> yiyezhou123: Since it works on a client/server model, I'd think you'd have to do something like `sudo service mlkonkey restart`, but that's all I can say on the subject as I haven't used it.
[06:33] <TheMaster> yiyezhou123: For more info on the subject, you could see their wiki at http://mldonkey.sourceforge.net/Allowed_ips
[06:34] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: by the way, what iam following is this http://blog.martinsladek.com/2010/07/linux-nvidia-legacy-geforce2-96.html but with different drivers course.
[06:34] <Axsuul> Is there a recommended workaround for sudo having a different PATH than what is normally in the bashrc?
[06:34] <yiyezhou123> TheMaster: Thank you Master,I will try it.
[06:34] <TheMaster> Hope it helps!
[06:34] <Ben64> Axsuul: what do you mean
[06:35] <Axsuul> Ben64: echo 'echo $PATH' | sudo sh AND echo $PATH give me two different paths
[06:36] <sacarlson> Axsuul: edit the .bashrc file (or each user) or add a symbolic link to where it now says it is
[06:36] <shelest> Hi there!
[06:36] <shelest> I'm curious about firefox versions.
[06:37] <sacarlson> Axsuul: oh sudo echo $PATH would probly be the .bashrc seen in /root/.bashrc
[06:37] <shelest> Before the last update I had firefox version 3.*.* and after update I have firefox of the 10.0.2
[06:37] <sacarlson> shelest: they have biger firefox versions and smaller ones,  what can I tell you
[06:38] <Ben64> shelest: yes, 10 is the new version
[06:38] <NitroTiger> sacarlson: I got it load under normal user  with help of libcap2-bin
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: uses the same as my user here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/850984/
[06:38] <sacarlson> NitroTiger: is there some config for libcap2-bin?
[06:38] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: apt-get install done, what's next?
[06:38] <sgo11> hi, is anyone familiar with apache rewrite mod? how can I put multiple rules in one virtual host config file? eg: 1, http://pastebin.com/b1AR6XLd  2, http://pastebin.com/KBGrhx8J  thanks.
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: reboot, see what happens
[06:38] <shelest> does it mean that they just skipped 7 major versions or what?
[06:39] <Ben64> shelest: they've been updating quickly
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> shelest: why is the version number of any value?
[06:39]  * shelest curious about the major changes in each version.
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> shelest: the change logs onlinewill probably say what's new in each
[06:40] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: WOW, it boots for the first time without the "nomodeset" option :)
[06:40] <NitroTiger> sacarlson: No make sure that it is present and then something like. setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin=eip /usr/bin/dumpcap
[06:40] <Ben64> shelest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Firefox_%28Rapid_release_development_cycle%29
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> shelest: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/releases/   go crazy
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: nice
[06:40] <shelest> I'm kinda conservative with numbering. te version changes in my understanding requires major and valuable updates
[06:41] <NitroTiger> sacarlson: And some more and it shows all adapters
[06:41] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: how will i know if the card is installed? the resolution seems low
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> shelest: mozilla team have increased release frequency
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: run the nvidia settings app
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: if you get an error message, its not loaded
[06:41] <sacarlson> NitroTiger: ya it seems older versions of wireshark we didn't need to sudo so I guess they used some similar method before
[06:42] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: nvidia settings app? how?
[06:42] <Axsuul> sacarlson: have any idea how I might be able to get this to work? It seems like the PATH isn't getting passed along https://gist.github.com/77021d5d6070d807a6b4
[06:42] <Ben64> NyLes: nvidia-settings
[06:42] <NyLes> ActionParsnip: i again accesed hardware drivers and it say, driver is activated but not in use?
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> NyLes: under system menu, or press ALT+F2 and run:  nvidia-settings
[06:42] <average_drifter> can I make "that's what she said jokes" with a girl ? I mean, is it something that people would do ?
[06:42] <shelest> the next news will be: Firefox 11 released. Major changes: Version number
[06:42] <sacarlson> Axsuul: sudo whereis aplicationofinterest
[06:43] <Ben64> shelest: then go complain to mozilla?
[06:43] <pangolin> average_drifter: no, and also off topic for this channel
[06:43] <shelest> just curious
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> shelest: its just a number
[06:43] <stercor> I'm wanting to remove some old backup directories on a flash drive.  Even as root I get the message that it's a read-only file system.  I can't change the perms because of the read-only problem.  Any pointers?
[06:43] <Axsuul> sacarlson: that doesn't give me the proper path
[06:44] <Axsuul> it just gives a blank
[06:44] <average_drifter> pangolin: you're an off topic nazi
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> stercor: is the partition healthy?
[06:44] <shelest> ok fine
[06:44] <stercor> ActionParsnip: y
[06:44] <shelest> i'm just too old for that shit. :(
[06:44] <stercor> ActionParsnip: AFAIKT
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> stercor: if it's uhealthy and the OS detects it, it will be mounted read only.
[06:44] <pangolin> average_drifter: doesn't change the fact that your question has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> stercor: what file system does it use?
[06:44] <stercor> vfat
[06:44] <sacarlson> Axsuul: what path does it give you?  I'm sure it's not a perfect method but just create a sybolic link to where it says it is
[06:45] <pangolin> shelest: please mind the language
[06:45] <average_drifter> pangolin: maybe it has, I was actually discussing with a girl some ubuntu-related topics and then I wanted to make such a joke
[06:45] <shelest> pardon my French.
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> stercor: get t checked (wth the partition unmounted) so that you know its healty
[06:45] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: it says, that i am not using nvidia x driver?
[06:45] <average_drifter> pangolin: and I didn't know if it's something people would do so I came to #ubuntu to get my question answered
[06:45] <NitroTiger> sacarlson: What you mean - I'm on 1.6.2
[06:45] <average_drifter> pangolin: just drop the NAZI attitude, kthx !
[06:45] <pangolin> average_drifter: This is a support channel, not a relationship advice channel.
[06:45] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: please edit your x configuration file?
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: then run:  gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log    and see what is going on
[06:46] <pixelhack> hello all
[06:46] <Silverlion> pixelhack: hey there
[06:46] <sacarlson> NitroTiger: way older I guess like back in 2007 or 2008 versions
[06:46] <goddard> Ben64: thanks buddy
[06:46] <average_drifter> pangolin: ...pff
[06:46] <pixelhack> not much just working on installing arch
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: I suggest you wipe out Lucid and install Oneiric, it will probably work a bit better
[06:47] <pixelhack> in the virtual machine what about you silverlion?
[06:47] <average_drifter> pangolin: you're a complete NAzi
[06:47] <sacarlson> NitroTiger: you don't have sudo priv so you looking for a work around?  I thought you found the solution
[06:47] <pangolin> average_drifter: enough with the godwin.
[06:47] <Silverlion> pixelhack: lying in bed being sick :( but we better go for an offtopic channel ;)
[06:47] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: but i think my drivers won't be recognize there. I've tried 10.10 and it doesn't recognize my video card
[06:47] <NitroTiger> sacarlson: Yes I got work around
[06:47] <Silverlion> pixelhack: this is for support mostly
[06:47] <pixelhack> ahhh ok
[06:47] <pixelhack> oh ok
[06:48] <pixelhack> sorry second time in xchat
[06:48] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: the log ahs a lot of text, which part of this?
[06:48] <enchilado> average_drifter: maybe you could try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:48] <enchilado> if it's related to Ubuntu but not actually Ubuntu support
[06:48] <Silverlion> pixelhack: no need to be ;) just follow me in #ubuntu-offtopic by typing /join CHANNEL NAME
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: read it, it shows the x server being built
[06:50] <average_drifter> pangolin: you're a fubbling NAZI .. stop acting like a NAZI, I'm free to ask what I want where I want, and this channel is no exception, please /part if you feel you don't like it
[06:50] <average_drifter> pangolin: or please /ignore me, if you don't like what I have to say, I don't give a fumble
[06:50] <shelest> Can I have a question about English?
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> shelest: i'd ask in a language channel. This is ubuntu support
[06:51] <shelest> it is connected to Mozilla
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> shelest: ok, shoot
[06:53] <shelest> Can I describe the situation with firefox releases: demonstrative activity simulation?
[06:53] <rlankf0> anyone know if i can do anything equivalent to iptables --log-uid with ufw ?
[06:53]  * shelest not an English speaker
[06:53] <rdw200169> rlankf0 ufw is iptables, just cut-down; if you know what you're doing, save yourself the hassle and just write your firewall in iptables
[06:54] <Silverlion> shelest: what is your native language?
[06:54] <shelest> Russian
[06:54] <Silverlion> shelest: that is one of those i failed to learn ^^
[06:54] <bazhang> shelest, try ##english
[06:54] <shelest> ok thanks :)
[06:56] <tandykid> test
[06:56] <rlankf0> rdw200169: doesn't look like i can do it with ufw command line tool but i can add the rule to before.rules, thanks.
[07:01] <stercor> ActionParsnip: fsck fixed some stuff; the flash drives are mounted vfat/rw, but I can't remove files.
[07:02] <stercor> ActionParsnip: mkfs? clean off everything and start over?
[07:04] <mnbv0987> in ubuntu 11.10, my laptop screen dims after 10 seconds of idle time when unplugged. how do i make it wait longer than 10 seconds?
[07:05] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: weird, after generating the xorg.conf then reboot, it won't show anything again just black..
[07:05] <las_> 全是英文交流？
[07:05] <bambanx> guys i install gnome on ubuntu 11.10 , how in the hell i can put a launcher on the botton panel for show the desktop ?
[07:06] <rdw200169> las_, join #ubuntu-cn
[07:06] <Axsuul> sacarlson: It appears.. sudo -i foo  works
[07:06] <NyLes_> how to remove xorg.conf in text mode?
[07:07] <lyc256> 使得
[07:07] <lyc256> 是的
[07:07] <las_> 看不懂阿
[07:07] <sacarlson> Axsuul: cool, I was just thinking about cd /path/to/foo; sudo foo
[07:07] <pangolin> !cn
[07:08] <Axsuul> sacarlson: i failed to mention that the script I was running has a shebang, which relies on the PATH so I can't do that =(
[07:09] <NyLes_> how to remove xorg.conf in text mode?
[07:09] <Abooda> bambanx: it's startlingly easy
[07:09] <bambanx> how Abooda ?
[07:09] <Abooda> bambanx: you just right-click, choose "add to panel"
[07:09] <sacarlson> Axsuul: ok cool or then you could just use the full pathname then
[07:09] <zykotic10> NyLes_: "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup" should work
[07:10] <ari_stress> hi bil
[07:10] <bambanx> Abooda, when i right click on my gnome on the panel i dont see nothing :/
[07:10] <mrantims> is it possible to upgrade linux-image using dpkg/apt-get? (by update I mean removing the old version.)
[07:10] <ari_stress> mrantims: maybe, but not good
[07:10] <Abooda> bambanx: have you tried this after a re-start?
[07:11] <bambanx> Abooda, yeah
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old
[07:11] <Ben64> mrantims: yes, should happen automagically
[07:11] <bambanx> Abooda, maybe i need install other things on my gnome
[07:11] <share> !precise
[07:11] <NyLes_> zykotic10: ActionParsnip thanks ^^
[07:11] <sacarlson> Axsuul: oh unless your script runs other scripts in that PATH, then your solution sounds good to me
[07:13] <vidb> Hello, I get this error after every update http://paste.ubuntu.com/851003/ , anyone may help me please ?
[07:14] <Ben64> vidb: what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"
[07:16] <sacarlson> vidb: maybe remove that repository from your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:16] <zykotic10> vidb: edgy?  wow
[07:17] <sacarlson> zykotic10: vidb oh ya that's too old I think
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> vidb: mixing debian repos in ubuntu is not advised, nor is it supported.
[07:17] <c0ax> Hello everyone
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> vidb: what is the output of Ben64's command please
[07:18] <vidb> ActionParsnip, : lsb_release -sd
[07:18] <vidb> ActionParsnip, : Ubuntu 11.10
[07:18] <god-zotac> whats the correct way to see what pulled in a package as a dependency?  in other words i want to see what package B is a direct dependency of package A. i want to see what package A is exactly
[07:18] <vidb> I have to remove the repository ?
[07:19] <zykotic10> god-zotac: "apt-cache depends foo" and/or "apt-cache rdepends foo" might help
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> vidb: remove the repo, it isn't for your release
[07:19] <god-zotac> zykotic10:: they don't show the packages that are only installed though do they? it shows everything in the apt cache db installed and not installed, doesnt it?
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> vidb: did you do something to your OS to make it 'upgrade' from debian to ubuntu?
[07:19] <sacarlson> vidb: you could be running a version of ubuntu that is so old that it is no longer supported
[07:19] <god-zotac> if so that would leave me with another problem, filtering out which packages are actually installed in that output..
[07:20] <NyLes_> ahm, how will i know the kernel version of ubuntu i am using?
[07:20] <god-zotac> NyLes_:: uname -r
[07:20] <helioz> Hello, I can't access websites by url, but I can by their IP, I believe something is wrong with DNS, is there any possibility to set up a local DNS on Ubuntu?
[07:20] <itbcn8> hey all. anyone know how to get Citrix ICA client working in Ubuntu 11.10? I install it, follow instuctions online, but still it does not run. thnx.
[07:20] <NyLes_> god-zotac: thanks..
[07:21] <helioz> And out of paranoia , I do have a list of ip addresses. :D
[07:21] <zykotic10> god-zotac: depends and rdepends lists what depends and what reverse depends on package "foo"
[07:21] <sacarlson> helioz: yes you can install bind9 or change dns address to an open one like google at 8.8.8.8
[07:21] <god-zotac> zykotic10:: i understand that, but i only want to know what depends on it that is installed. not from everything in the mirrors that can be installed
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> helioz: run:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf       then retry the web
[07:21] <soreau> helioz: Check /etc/resolv.conf and see what your nameserver is set to there
[07:21] <mrantims> Ben64: when i using apt-get install linux-image, it doesn't remove anything. same thing happens with packages like linux-image-server
[07:22] <vidb> ActionParsnip: No, I think I have added it when I applied a Tutorials.. I forgot :S
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> vidb: there is a wine ppa if you need one
[07:22] <helioz> Thanks, good day people.
[07:22] <Ben64> mrantims: well you can remove old ones with apt-get then
[07:22] <vidb> ActionParsnip: How can I add it please ?
[07:23] <zykotic10> god-zotac: i take it, you aren't clear on what a dependency is
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> vidb: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install wine1.3
[07:23] <god-zotac> zykotic10:: yes i am very clear on what a dependency is
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> vidb: as I said, remove the edgy repos, they will NOT work in your OS
[07:23] <god-zotac> zykotic10:: heres the deal.. i want to see what depends on mysql.. i want to see what pulls it in.  not every package that is available in the repositories that depends on mysql
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> vidb: how did you add it
[07:24] <vidb> ActionParsnip: and what about this : deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe , how can I replace it ?
[07:24] <NyLes_> i forgot to backup my xorg lol, is it ok to just delete the existing xorg then a new one will be generated at reboot?
[07:24] <zykotic10> god-zotac: so use rdepends then
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> vidb: just delete the line
[07:24] <god-zotac> zykotic10:: rdepends shows the reverse dependencies of mysql that are available. not just the ones installed
[07:24] <god-zotac> zykotic10:: and depends will show the dependencies that mysql depends on
[07:25] <god-zotac> i am very clear of that, but i want it to only output in the list it produces packages that i do have installed
[07:25] <llutz_> god-zotac: install aptitude, aptitude why mysql
[07:25] <zykotic10> god-zotac: i'm sorry.  I see your point, my mistake
[07:25] <god-zotac> llutz_:: thank you
[07:25] <soreau> god-zotac: apt-cache rdepends <pkg>
[07:25] <god-zotac> soreau:: no, thats not what i want..
[07:26] <god-zotac> try it yourself and you will see why..
[07:26] <zykotic10> soreau: ;) i does list everything (as i just discovered, not only what is installed)
[07:26] <llutz_> god-zotac: you might fiddle a bit with the results to get the _real_ package causing mysql being instlled
[07:26] <NyLes_> i forgot to backup my xorg lol, is it ok to just delete the existing xorg then a new one will be generated at reboot?
[07:27] <zykotic10> NyLes_: xorg.conf is NOT autogenerated (in ubuntu)
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: no a new one is not generated
[07:27] <god-zotac> llutz_:: yea what i am asking for is the equivalent to equery d pkgname  in gentoo ;)
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: thats why I always say to rename
[07:27] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: hahaha ok il just reinstall it again..
[07:27] <llutz_> god-zotac: whatever that is, i don't know gentoo except the name
[07:27] <mrantims> Ben64: Thanks
[07:28] <god-zotac> llutz_:: it will show only installed pkgs that are depending on the pkgname you specify in the cmd
[07:28] <Jordan_U> god-zotac: I missed most of the conversation, but "aptitude why packagename" may be what you want.
[07:28] <vidb> ActionParsnip: I found two lines in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe  and deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main , well the second one is related to Wine ,I don't know what the first was for and how can I replace it :S
[07:28] <llutz_> god-zotac:ok, thats what " aptitude why mysql " does
[07:29] <soreau> vidb: you should comment out any lines with references to ubuntu versions other then the one you are currently running, then run apt-get update
[07:29] <god-zotac> yep it helps a lot,  the apt-cache rdepends is rather useless unless you was just wanting to check every single package in the mirrors that depended on something
[07:29] <soreau> well, probably remove not just comment
[07:29] <vidb> sordina: But should I replace it ?
[07:30] <soreau> vidb: If it isnt for your distro version it likely wont work anyway so get rid of them since it could cause breakage
[07:31] <god-zotac> meh. this is still not producing anything relevant to the situation.. i have mysql-server installed, and when i pretend to remove it it wants to remove these pkgs:  libnet-daemon-perl libdbi-perl mysql-server-core-5.5 mysql-client-core-5.5 libdbd-mysql-perl libplrpc-perl mysql-server-5.5 mysql-client-5.5
[07:32] <vidb> soreau: Ok, thanks.
[07:32] <god-zotac> however, when i do the aptitude why mysql-server  all i get is this:  i   rsyslog       Suggests rsyslog-mysql | rsyslog-pgsql p   rsyslog-mysql Suggests mysql-server
[07:32] <god-zotac> i see no connection in the two..
[07:33] <llutz_> god-zotac:  seems you installed recommends/suggests too, not only depends
[07:33] <soreau> god-zotac: Have you tried actually removing it then reinstalling only the package you want?
[07:33] <god-zotac> llutz_:: funny because i don't have the rsyslog-mysql stuff installed
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> vidb: remove both
[07:34] <god-zotac> soreau::  im just trying to figure out how to see what is pulling things in on ubuntu.. i've not used ubuntu much in the past, and i'm trying to use some common package management features that i see are important.. compared to what i am use to anyway
[07:36] <soreau> god-zotac: So check the depends for each package of interest?
[07:36] <vidb> I have a second problem, when I do 'sudo apt-get update' I get an error asking to 'sudo apt-get autoremove' because a packet called "fgfs-base" is installed and its no longer necessary.. and when I do 'sudo apt-get autoremove' I get this error : E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:36] <god-zotac> soreau:: depends will just tell what the pkg depends on its self..   rdepends with the apt-cache method will show reverse dependencies of everything available, not just those installed.. thats the point
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> !info fgfs-base
[07:37] <soreau> god-zotac: I guess I am not understanding the problem.. sounds like you have everything you need
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> vidb: fgfs-base is only in debian
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> oops, maybe not
[07:38] <vidb> It wont be removed :S
[07:38] <soreau> vidb: See this is why you shouldnt add incorrect repos
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> vidb: try this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage
[07:39] <god-zotac> soreau:: the problem is i don't see a readily available tool to produce output of pkg names that are dependant on the pkg you specify.. its not really hard to see what im wanting.. the aptitude why  seems like it would be the right thing, but its not producing any output similar to what packages will be removed when i pretend to remove the pkg that im wanting to know the reverse dependencies of
[07:40] <soreau> god-zotac: But doesnt (pretend) removing the package give you that information?
[07:40] <NyLes_> zykotic10 how again to stop xserver? i forgot sorry..
[07:41] <god-zotac> dependency trees are normally    Package A -> Package B -> Package C  and so on.. where A is the pkg you try to install,  B is a direct dependency of A, and C is a direct dependency of B.. ok say that mysql-server is the C in the equation.. I want to know what A and B are..
[07:41] <soreau> NyLes_: sudo service gdm stop
[07:41] <zykotic10> NyLes_: ctrl+alt+f1 then "sudo service gdm stop"
[07:41] <NyLes_> zykotic10: soreau thanks..
[07:43] <Guest80881> hi guys, I just install 11.10 on a machine that already had Fedora16 on an LVM. Ubuntu overwrote my previous grub settings and I don't know how to boot into my Fedora now. Any help?
[07:44] <zykotic10> Guest80881: have you tried running "sudo update-grub" to see if it's automatically added?
[07:44] <soreau> Guest80881: You might have to reinstall/configure grub from fedora.. possibly from a live session
[07:44] <Guest80881> zykotic10: yes I did; didn't help :(
[07:44] <soreau> Guest80881: Or you might be able to chroot into fedora
[07:44] <branant> That is where Lilo rues the world
[07:44] <Guest80881> soreau: I can't seem to get in Fedora though; if I were in a live session, how could I install it?
[07:45] <Guest80881> soreau: sorry, chroot?
[07:45] <soreau> ! chroot | Guest80881
[07:45] <soreau> Guest80881: You might have to ask for details in the fedora channel though
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Guest80881: run:  sudo update-grub     do you see fedora listed?
[07:45] <Guest80881> oh I see...let me look that up
[07:45] <longwuyuan_> #join #chinalug
[07:45] <shawn_> anyone here running the new gnome
[07:45] <mmaksimov> Is there an easy way to create a bootable usb media for 10.04 under non-ubuntu linux? unetbootin media fails with "cannot find cdrom".
[07:45] <Guest80881> ActionParsnip: I do not. I'm thinking that's because in a separate LVM
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: most will be
[07:46] <soreau> ! grub | Guest80881: You can search for chroot in this link:
[07:46] <Guest80881> I should note, that in my nautilus, the Fedora partiton does not show up, though it does in gparted and fdisk
[07:46] <shawn_> i cant seem to get any videos displayed like on youtube
[07:46] <Guest80881> ubottu: sweet, thanks, looking it up
[07:46] <shawn_> after updating gnome
[07:46] <soreau> Guest80881: Its probably just not being mounted
[07:47] <Guest80881> soreau: hmm, good point, let me try
[07:47] <soreau> ! flash | shawn_
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: what video have you seen?
[07:47] <shawn_> i installed flash already :(
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: oh you mean flash isn't working?
[07:47] <shawn_> its installed but no videos can display in youtube :(
[07:47] <shawn_> or veoh
[07:47] <shawn_> actually any video website haha
[07:47] <soreau> ! restricted | shawn_
[07:48] <vidb> ActionParsnip: I get the same error with fgfs-base when I type "sudo apt-get install -f"
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: can you use a PASTEBIN and give the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[07:48] <soreau> vidb: Does it work if you just try to remove it?
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> vidb: uninstall the package, it may help
[07:48] <shawn_> i uninstalled the package and reinstalled ahhh
[07:48] <Guest80881> soreau: eh, I get a -> can't find /dev/sda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab; I should edit those files, right?
[07:49] <soreau> Guest80881: fstab, yes. You shouldnt need to mess with mtab though
[07:49] <vidb> sordina, ActionParsnip: I get the same error everytime I try to remove it : E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> !paste | shawn_
[07:49] <shawn_> No LSB modules are available.
[07:49] <shawn_> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[07:49] <shawn_> Description:	Ubuntu 11.10
[07:49] <shawn_> Release:	11.10
[07:49] <shawn_> Codename:	oneiric
[07:49] <FloodBot1> shawn_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:49] <shawn_> Linux shawn-ThinkPad 3.0.0-16-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 27 17:44:39 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:49] <soreau> Guest80881: fstab is what will be auto mounted, mtab serves as a system mechanism to tell what was mounted so it knows when it boots
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: I said pastebin. I even put it in caps...
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: think about it....
[07:50] <shawn_> sorry! haha
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: I put it in caps
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: why did you STILL paste in here
[07:50] <Guest80881> soreau: hmm, do you know I can determine the appropriate options for that file? like the UUID?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: If yo make a pastebin that wont't happen, which is why I said to make a pastebin...
[07:51] <soreau> ! uuid | Guest80881
[07:51] <soreau> Guest80881: You can just use /dev/whatever instead of the uuid
[07:52] <Guest80881> ooh, sweet
[07:52] <extender> this installation is taking a very long time, how can I tell if it's frozen?
[07:52] <soreau> Guest80881: Then to test it, sudo mount -a
[07:52] <shawn_> !paste
[07:52] <Guest80881> testing it, brb
[07:52] <shawn_> !pastebinit
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> extender: installation of what?
[07:52] <extender> 11.10 desktop
[07:52] <NyLes_> !paste | shawn_
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> extender: whatis the message in the installer?
[07:52] <dirtycookie> hi, i tried to install ffmpeg from source, how can I undo of that i did
[07:53] <extender> it's just stuck on the "any questions?" screen
[07:53] <extender> I can't see any terminal
[07:53] <shawn_> !pastebin - No LSB modules are available.
[07:53] <shawn_> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[07:53] <shawn_> Description:	Ubuntu 11.10
[07:53] <shawn_> Release:	11.10
[07:53] <shawn_> Codename:	oneiric
[07:53] <FloodBot1> shawn_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:53] <shawn_> Linux shawn-ThinkPad 3.0.0-16-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 27 17:44:39 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: paste the text in the pastebin, and click the paste button. When the screen changes copy the new url in the address bar and paste THAT in the channel
[07:53] <soreau> dirtycookie: Sometimes you can just do make uninstall
[07:54] <dirtycookie> soreau: just "uninstall"
[07:54] <soreau> dirtycookie: Then reinstall ffmpeg package from the repos
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> extender: what is above the progress bar?
[07:54] <extender> ActionParsnip: there is no progress bar
[07:55] <soreau> extender: How far along did you get in the installer?
[07:55] <shawn_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/851031/
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> extender: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_z4OQZOueC7w/S8GU9s7z1SI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/qTAMCrlN1EI/s1600/Ubuntu10.04Beta2Install2.png   something like that on screen
[07:55] <extender> I entered all the information, username, password, time zone
[07:55] <shawn_> ahh i learn
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: if you dodn't know, why didn't you ask how to use the pastebin?
[07:56] <soreau> shawn_: Yes that is how to pastebin. You should always use a pastebin service for more than a few lines
[07:56] <mmaksimov> Hi. Is there an easy way to create a bootable usb media for 10.04 under non-ubuntu linux? unetbootin media fails with "cannot find cdrom".
[07:56] <extender> my window is titles "install" and there is no progress bar, it paged through all of the information screens, and now it's at the last one for hours
[07:57] <shawn_> sorry i am new
[07:57] <shawn_> let me give you the correct link
[07:57] <shawn_> with the correct output
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: what is the output of:    dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[07:57] <shawn_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/851032/
[07:57] <sgo11> hi, anyone know how to use apache rewrite mod? thanks.
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: good enogh :)
[07:57] <soreau> extender: After partitioning, it should have had a progress bar installing files while you are entering this information
[07:57] <shawn_> haha
[07:58] <extender> you can rmeote in and take a look
[07:58] <soreau> extender: Did you check the md5sum of the bootable image you are using?
[07:58] <extender> yes, it all checked out
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/851037/
[07:59] <shawn_> you are awesome
[07:59] <shawn_> thank you very much
[07:59] <soreau> extender: Not sure what happened.. is the system still responsive?
[08:00] <extender> yup
[08:00] <extender> I'm in the live desktop
[08:00] <extender> can I see if there is still disk activity?
[08:00] <soreau> Can you start gparted ok?
[08:01] <extender> gparted up, only sees 1 drive
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> extender: press CTRL+ALT+T   and run:  top     what command is using most CPU?
[08:02] <soreau> extender: Im not sure what to tell you than to try again.. an installation on a reasonably modern pc shouldnt take more than an hour
[08:02] <extender> xorg, then kworker
[08:02] <soreau> extender: Did you tell it to install updates and not have it connected to the internet?
[08:02] <extender> no updates
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> extender: any of them using a lot, or is the CPU quite idle?
[08:02] <dirtydevil> I want to create a partition using gparted in my ubuntu 10.10 laptop, but I have only one drive and in that ubuntu is installed. help please
[08:02] <vidb> ActionParsnip: I tried with http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage , but I get always the same error when I type sudo apt-get install -f .. Should I remove /var/lib/dpkg.backup now? Look that It take a lot of space..
[08:03] <extender> pretty much idle, it's installing to a flash drive, how do I see if it's still being written to?
[08:03] <soreau> dirtydevil: Resize the existing partition from a live cd?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> vidb: try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename       obviously change the name
[08:04] <vidb> ActionParsnip: the same error..  fgfs-base
[08:04] <vidb> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:04] <dirtydevil> soreau: and in that case  any chance of data loss? as my data is very impotant and don't have any thing for backup?
[08:04] <soreau> vidb: Now you see why not to use repos that arent for your version of ubuntu
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> vidb: is this a fresh install?
[08:05] <vidb> soreau: Yes.. :( But there is no way to remove it ?
[08:05] <soreau> dirtydevil: Yes there is a chance for data loss. You should always backup your data
[08:05] <dirtydevil> soreau: how to avoid data loss?
[08:05] <soreau> ! backup | dirtydevil
[08:05] <vidb> ActionParsnip: No, I think it was installed with Tor or Wine.. Maybe I applied a debian tutorial or something else
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> vidb: so it was an upgrade?
[08:06] <soreau> dirtydevil: From my experience, you neednt worry if the hard drive is in good health and you make sure to keep power to the laptop while resizing the partition in gparted in the live session
[08:06] <soreau> and dont let it go to sleep etc
[08:06] <extender> it didn't give me the option to select which drive to install to at the beginning
[08:06] <vidb> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure
[08:07] <soreau> extender: You should have reached a partitioning stage where it automatically runs gparted
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> vidb: did you have natty before, then use the internet to uprade to Oneiric?
[08:07] <soreau> extender: Pretty much at the very beginning after time zone etc
[08:07] <vidb> ActionParsnip: Yes !
[08:07] <vidb> That is it
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> vidb: then its an upgrade isn't it....
[08:07] <extender> it gave me the option to "erase everything and install"
[08:07] <dirtydevil> soreau: thanks, yeah both conditions are fulfilled
[08:07] <extender> trying everything again
[08:08] <soreau> extender: Yea that will wipe the system hard drive
[08:08] <vidb> ActionParsnip: Yes
[08:08] <soreau> extender: You want to choose manual partition then select your usb device
[08:08] <extender> it makes quite a few assumptions about where I want to install it if there are already operating systems installed
[08:09] <sgo11> for apache virtual host config file, the default defines <Directory /> Options None AllowOverride None</Directory>. My question is: can I simply remove this <Directory /> block? Do we need this definition for security reasons? thanks.
[08:09] <extender> I want a fresh install, but I want it to ignore other OSes
[08:09] <soreau> extender: Yes that is why there is the manual partitioning option (which I always use)
[08:09] <soreau> ! who | extender
[08:09] <dRounse> why wont minecraft work on kubuntu
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> vidb: all I can suggest is that you force install the deb, may help.
[08:09] <soreau> extender: If you are installing an OS to a machine you cant just ignore the other ones
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> dRounse: it does work
[08:09] <extender> soreau: I don't know how to pmake the partitions as if it were an "automatic" install
[08:09] <soreau> dRounse: It does
[08:10] <dRounse> i cant get it to work
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> dRounse: client or server?
[08:10] <soreau> extender: Well youd better do some reading then
[08:10] <dRounse> client
[08:10] <extender> soreau: right now it seems my best solution is to unplug the other hard drives while installing
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> dRounse: what have you tried? what happened when you tried it?
[08:10] <soreau> ! usb | extender
[08:11] <soreau> extender: No you dont need to unplug anything, just read and learn
[08:11] <dRounse> i have jre6 installed and it just loads on the bottom bar and doesnt actually pop up
[08:11] <Ben64> dRounse: how are you running it
[08:11] <soreau> extender: AFAICT, you are trying to setup a persistent usb pendrive
[08:11] <extender> soreau: I'd rather not, but it seems to be the fastest solution right now
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> dRounse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL_VaOew_hY
[08:12] <extender> soreau: I have one already, I'm trying to install ubuntu to a desktop
[08:12] <dRounse> i saved the .jar to a folder named minecraft and right click on the .jar and press open with jre6
[08:12] <extender> soreau: from the usb drive
[08:12] <soreau> extender: If you dont want to learn, Im not sure why you are here
[08:12] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: don't even need all that
[08:12] <Ben64> just "java -jar minecraft.jar"
[08:12] <Ben64> easy peasy
 extender: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[08:12] <Ben64> dRounse: try from command line
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: indeed bt if it was so asy, user wouldn't be having the issue ;)
[08:16] <skumlesen> is there a command that lists all installed packets / deb's on a computer, via dpkg or aptitude?
[08:17] <llutz_> skumlesen: dpkg -l
[08:17] <soreau> skumlesen: dpkg -l
[08:17] <skumlesen> thanks :)
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> skumlesen: dpkg -l > ~/Desktop/packages.txt; gedit ~/Desktop/packages.txt
[08:17] <cirwin> I'm having difficulty mounting an hfs+ volume on my ubuntu
[08:17] <cirwin> it keeps saying [  242.479806] hfs: unable to find HFS+ superblock
[08:17] <cirwin> though I've tried various offsets as suggested by mmls (taking the numbers and multiplying them by 512 as suggested in the blogosphere)
[08:18] <soreau> ! hfs | cirwin
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> skumlesen: may want to grep -v '^rc'     as the lines starting with rc are not installed, but ave residual configs from removed packages
[08:19] <cirwin> soreau: at the moment the hfs+ thing is in a file on another disk
[08:19] <cirwin> can I mount that in the same way?
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> !hfs
[08:19] <cirwin> okok, I'm reading :)
[08:21] <gogo_> hi, I need help....My BIOS is not detecting hard disk, Windows is not detecting hard disk, Ubuntu is not detecting hard disk but disk utility in live mode is listing 'PATA Host Adapter' and 'Sata Host Adapter' but no options under them. What happened?
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: sounds like the drive died, BIOS not detecting the drive is bad
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: may need to open the system and check connectors (with the power OFF)
[08:22] <gogo_> ActionParsnip: I pulled it out and replaced firmly...still
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: sounds like its dead, does it spin up?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: is it PATA or SATA?
[08:23] <dRounse> i got it
[08:23] <dRounse> i had to write a script
[08:23] <gogo_> ActionParsnip: uhm I don't know...both? I think disk is spinning...should i remove disk guard and check?
[08:24] <soreau> gogo_: If your bios cant detect your hard disk, its likely a hardware issue. Check cables are firmly attached and the drive isnt dead
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> dRounse: so we were'nt wrong were we...it DOES work
[08:24] <gogo_> why disk utilty is listing sata and pata host adapter....are they ports?
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: those are the controllers on the motherboard
[08:25] <gogo_> oh...w8 i check if disk is spinning or not
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: with no drives attached, they'd still show
[08:25] <gogo_> oh i see
[08:26] <gogo_> pata is ide and sata ACHI...sorry i hv no clue wat r these
[08:28] <astro5> anyone know anything about programming? when i try to compile a an openGL sample program i can't use "-lGL" i have to use "-lglut"....how do i get openGL working again?
[08:28] <gogo_> Actio
[08:29] <soreau> astro5: What do you mean you cant use "-lGL"?
[08:29] <gogo_> ActionParsnip: I think hard disk is spinning...its warm and i can feel vibrations from it after touching it
[08:29] <astro5> when i try to compile/build a program i should be able to type "g++ -o file file.cpp -lGL" but now i have to type "-lglut" instead of "-lGL"
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: could try a different cable if you have one
[08:30] <soreau> astro5: why?
[08:30] <astro5> i dont know why, that is my problem
[08:30] <astro5> i have GL in /usr/include
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: if its a PATA drive, mke sure it's set as master and on it's own controller to avoid complications with conflicting devices on the same channel
[08:30] <gogo_> ActionParsnip: uhm cable?....there are two slots in which disk fits in laptop...there is no cable :(
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: oh, laptop makes it a bit trickier
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: try resetting BIOS to failsafe defaults
[08:31] <gogo_> ActionParsnip: did it already
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: i'd say dead drive then
[08:31] <soreau> ! who | astro5
[08:31] <solars> hey, I've yday installed cpufreq and it was working, now I always get cpufreqd-get 'no cpufreqd socket found' /etc/init.d/cpufreqd start doesn't change it - any idea?
[08:31] <gogo_> ActionParsnip: is there a utility to confrim it in Ubuntu?
[08:32] <astro5> the error i get is "usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
[08:32] <soreau> astro5: You are saying you cant but you arent saying what happens when you try
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: you may be able to test it using the manufactrers tool on the ultimate boot cd
[08:32] <soreau> astro5: maybe try ldconfig
[08:33] <rabbi1> where can i find a particular font in ubuntu, can't see in /usr/share/fonts
[08:33] <smittix> I have a Elantech Touchpad and for some reason I have to touch quite hard for the cursor to move. It's as if its not reporting pressure properly. Can anyone help with this?
[08:34] <soreau> astro5: Also make sure you have mesa-common-dev installed
[08:34] <gogo_> ActionParsnip: thanks...i will try ultimate boot cd
[08:34] <astro5> i do
[08:35] <astro5> soreau: i already checked in /usr/include and GL is there
[08:36] <rabbi1> where can i find a particular font in ubuntu, can't see in /usr/share/fonts
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> !font
[08:37] <soreau> astro5: Well its not particularly a ubuntu issue but did it used to work at one point?
[08:37] <astro5> soreau:  yes it worked in the past, my gut tells me it has something to do with me trying the proprietary ATI graphics driver, then uninstalling that because i didnt like it
[08:38] <astro5> i think it messed up the linking of GL somehow
[08:38] <soreau> astro5: That sounds plausible. Try reinstalling mesa-common-dev
[08:38] <soreau> astro5: Also what is the output of glxinfo|grep renderer?
[08:40] <astro5> soreau: output of glxinfo | grep renderer is "OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS880
[08:41] <soreau> astro5: alright, that is good, just try reinstalling that package and possibly xserver-xorg-core
[08:42] <rocknlew49> I am lost....someone help me configure this...lol
[08:42] <astro5> soreau: i already reinstalled xserver-xorg-core....what is best way to reinstall mesa-common-dev? can i just do it via GUI in synaptic package manager?
[08:43] <soreau> astro5: yes or apt-get install --reinstall <pkg>
[08:43] <astro5> ok, thanks. i'll try it
[08:46] <piquadrat> Hi. Is there any way to install the Sun JDK on oneiric/precise? My IDE insists on the Sun flavor and doesn't work with OpenJDK...
[08:46] <madgoat> hi ! please see my new web site if you nedd a nice dual boot, see you http://www.linux2deal.byethost4.com
[08:47] <soreau> ! java | piquadrat
[08:47] <rocknlew49> After 20 years of Windows..I am now using unbuntu..HELPME....I am lost....How do you install programs?? What do you use to mange them?
[08:47] <[deXter]> piquadrat, http://ubuntuportal.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-development-kit-7-jdk7-in-ubuntu-11-1012-04-via-ppa/
[08:48] <soreau> ! synaptic | rocknlew49
[08:48] <[deXter]> rocknlew49, This is a great introduction for newbies: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware
[08:48] <piquadrat> [deXter]: thanks!
[08:48] <[deXter]> rocknlew49, And some more detailed info can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[08:53] <vidb> ActionParsnip: I solved the fgfs-base problem :D
[08:53] <vidb> I simply removed wine1.3
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> vidb: ahhhh, makes sense
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> vidb: see what bad software sources does now?
[08:53] <mdob> hi, how can I get this exact glibc /lib/i386-linux-gnu/tls/i686/nosegneg/libc.so.6 ?
[08:53] <mdob> ubuntu 11.04
[08:53] <vidb> Yeah
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> vidb: glad you got there dude
[08:54] <vidb> Thanks for your help!
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> vidb: anytime :)
[08:56] <NyLes_> how to edit xorg.conf in terminal? xserver is not working..
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:57] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: thanks man..
[08:57] <klawd> hi! can someone tell me how to get snd-hda-intel module?
[08:59] <llutz_> klawd: its part of the kernel-package
[09:00] <danslo> Didn't come here to ask for help. Just wanted to say that Skype can die a slowly death in the fiery pits of hell
[09:01] <danslo> worst. application. ever.
[09:01] <enchilado> danslo: then why choose this channel?
[09:01] <klawd> llutz_: my sound did work a couple of weeks ago. now i tried again and it does not
[09:01] <danslo> enchilado: because skype on LINUX sucks, and in my case skype on UBUNTU
[09:01] <klawd> i remember installing something with aptitude and it deinstalled a bunch of stuff
[09:01] <klawd> i need sound right now
[09:01] <llutz_> danslo: stop ranting here.
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> danslo: never had an issue
[09:02] <enchilado> danslo: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:02] <klawd> i tried pretty much everything. can't get it to work. you think you can help me?
[09:02] <danslo> ActionParsnip: on 64bit?
[09:02] <enchilado> if you're not asking for support on how to make it work better
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> danslo: in either
[09:02] <danslo> enchilado: that's the thing, it cant be made better
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> danslo: what is your issue with it?
[09:02] <enchilado> danslo: well, then there's no point talking about it here! :P
[09:03] <danslo> ActionParsnip: it crashes all the time, voice randomly stops until you pkill it
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> danslo: did you install the deb from the website?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> danslo: what sound chip do you use?
[09:03] <danslo> software center
[09:03] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: how can i Save it? after editting?
[09:03] <zay> !ping
[09:03] <klawd> could someone please help me get my sound to work? it would be very much appreciated
[09:03] <danslo> ActionParsnip: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: ctrl+X, Y, ENTER
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> danslo: the oneon the website is slightly later version
[09:04] <astro5> soreau: reinstalling mesa-common-dev didnt work. but when i go to nautilus in /usr/lib/libGL.so there is an "x" on the file, and when i click on it, it says: "The Link "libGL.so" is Broken. Move it to Trash? This link cannot be used, because its target "/usr/lib/libGL.so.1" doesn't exist"
[09:04] <danslo> ActionParsnip: Guess its worth a try
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> danslo: so whatexactly have you tried in order to make it work?
[09:05] <danslo> ActionParsnip: there's not much to try, the application pretty much segfaults... I cant even select different audio subsystem (only PA is available)
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> danslo: remember to run:  rm -r ~/.Skype    so you get vanilla settings
[09:06] <Ben64> danslo: have you tried removing pulseaudio
[09:06] <danslo> ActionParsnip: and I suppose ubuntu updated its repository because the one I download from the site is the exact same rev as the one installed
[09:07] <danslo> Ben64: and break the other half of my system, I think I'll pass on that one ;D
[09:07] <soreau> astro5: Yea fglrx screwed that up. Try removing that file then reinstalling mesa-common-dev and libgl1-mesa-dev
[09:07] <Ben64> removing pulseaudio breaks nothing
[09:07] <Ben64> i remove it from all my systems
[09:07] <danslo> ActionParsnip: tried that - I don't think its related... my co-workers experience the same buggyness
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> danslo: not sure, as far as I am ware the one on the site is later, which may help
[09:07] <astro5> soreau:  so i just need to remove the libGL.so file only?
[09:07] <soreau> astro5: yea then reinstall those two packages and make sure it's restored
[09:08] <astro5> ok, thanks again
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> danslo: even works under xpud here...
[09:08] <danslo> Ben64: I've been through enough alsamixer hell in the past .. thanks but I'll pass on that one :)
[09:08] <Ben64> danslo: probably solves your problem
[09:08] <Ben64> danslo: i always have issues with pulseaudio, removing it works
[09:08] <NyLes_> what suppose to be the problem when it has no display? is it with the driver or the xorg.conf? this is tiring..
[09:09] <danslo> ActionParsnip: well it "works"... but it randomly crashes, randomly shows you as online but wont let you send messages or calls, randomly stops in the middle of a call until you kill -9 skype and start it again, etc
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: try oneiric, it may help
[09:10] <llutz_> danslo: well for some it works, for some it doesn't. since its proprietary crap, you have to accept that or just don't use it.
[09:10] <danslo> llutz_: I wish I could stop using it... company is on its nuts though
[09:10] <klawd> could someone please help me get my sound to work? it would be very much appreciated
[09:11] <Ben64> !details | klawd
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> klawd: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[09:11] <klawd> Ben64: i don'
[09:11] <klawd> Ben64: i don't get sound on my speaker
[09:11] <Ben64> klawd: try what ActionParsnip said
[09:11] <klawd> ActionParsnip: one sec
[09:12] <danslo> llutz_: it's a similar situation to the reason why I wrote (parts of) mangler (http://www.mangler.org/) .... yes the used standards SUCK, but some people are stuck with it
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> klawd: upload to the server and a URL will be generated
[09:13] <klawd> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=d23fef0d79eb93cb4ed0df68a3cff328ba2a3542
[09:13] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: oneiric is the 11.10 right?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: yes
[09:13] <NyLes_> !oneiric
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> klawd: if you run:  alsamixer     are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[09:13] <klawd> ActionParsnip: the snd-intel-hda auto i added earlier
[09:13] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: will it work fine even my RAM is only 512MB?
[09:14] <klawd> ActionParsnip: no. headphone is muted and i can't change it
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: yes, its the minimum. I'd go for Xubuntu or Lubuntu to free up more RAM for your apps
[09:14] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: Lubuntu 11.10?
[09:14] <thevaliantx> i am trying to install google earth, but am getting this message just before the install completes:
[09:14] <klawd> ActionParsnip: but i have it plugged in at the front. and master front is cranked and unmuted
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: sure, it'll run well :)
[09:15] <klawd> ActionParsnip: any ideas?
[09:15] <thevaliantx> "Errors were encountered while processing: firmware-b43legacy-installer"
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> klawd: does the system have a make and model?
[09:16] <klawd> ActionParsnip: "system"?
[09:16] <thevaliantx> i don't know enough about apt and wireless drivers.  my computer is a Dell Inspiron 1545.  what do i do to apt to get google earth to install and for the error message that I am getting to go away?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> klawd: yes, the computer you are using is a system
[09:16] <klawd> ActionParsnip: yes. but which component do you mean? it's not a dell or some other kind of preconf
[09:17] <kala13x> hello boys. I've problem with my VGA Driver, im trying install ubuntu 11.10 but it doesnot works with my VGA model (NVIDIA GeForce 8500) can anyone help me. p.s. sorry for my bad english
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> klawd: the whole thing, is it a branded pc?
[09:17] <klawd> no
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> kala13x: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> klawd: ok and it's a desktop system?
[09:18] <klawd> ActionParsnip: yes
[09:18] <kala13x> ActionParsnip: and how i can do this?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> klawd: not sure then dude, that alsa link is dead handy. My sound troubleshooting isn't great
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | kala13x
[09:19] <kala13x> ActionParsnip, ubottu: ok. thanks
[09:19] <klawd> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks for trying
[09:20] <MeirD> Hello. In order to scan for HCTL I need to write the CTL to /sys/class/scsi_host/host%d/scan file..  I tried using :~ echo 0:97:0 > /sys/class/scsi_host/host1/scan
[09:20] <MeirD> However, I get Permission Denied error... how am I supposed to do it?
[09:21] <llutz_> MeirD: echo 0:97:0 |sudo tee /sys/class/scsi_host/host1/scan
[09:21] <NyLes_> !nomodeset
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> MeirD: echo "0:97:0" | sudo tee /sys/class/scsi_host/host1/scan
[09:21] <MeirD> thnx!
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> MeirD: the file is owned by root, so you will need sudo to edit it
[09:21] <MeirD> why mine doesnt work?
[09:21] <MeirD> so why not sudo echo 0:97:0 > /sys/class/scsi_host/host1/scan
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> MeirD: sudo doesn't traverse the '>' operator
[09:22] <MeirD> oh, didnt know that. thanks!
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> MeirD: the only bitwith sudo powr there is the echo command
[09:22] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: how again i can restore the backup xorg?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: rename it with mv
[09:22] <MeirD> thnx!
[09:23] <ndlovu> sometimes when I plug in my 3G usb modem, it doesn't show up in the network panel. 'lshw -C network' recognises it, but says it's DISABLED. Any idea how to enable it?
[09:23] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: the nvidia-xconfig automatically backups my xorg.conf and it is xorg.conf.backup
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: cool
[09:24] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: so how will irestore it?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: rename the current xorg.conf first
[09:25] <MeirD> weird.. I get error: tee: /sys/class/scsi_host/host97/scan: Invalid Argument
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: so you have the one currently running
[09:25] <MeirD> (and before it echoes "0:97:0")
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> MeirD: could always run:  sudo -i
[09:25] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: how will irename it on terminal?
[09:25] <llutz_> ls -l /sys/class/scsi_host
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> MeirD: then you can run:      echo 0:97:0 > /sys/class/scsi_host/host1/scan     as you expect
[09:26] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: my xserver is not running :D
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: look at the command I gave, and think....
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: doesn't matter in CLI
[09:27] <kapz> hi I am using evolution on gnome-shell 3.2 (ubuntu 11.10)...can someone help me minimize evolution to gnome notification icon? thanks
[09:27] <MeirD> thanks a lot
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> kapz: http://gnome.eu.org/index.php/Evolution_Tray
[09:29] <NyLes_> !mv
[09:30] <klawd> could someone please help me get my sound to work? http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a635c769271dd8b905c83d21692d078e6fb5b395
[09:30] <terminhell> ello ello
[09:36] <zhjawe123> Hi,anyone knows in mldonkey how to user different download directory for guest user?
[09:37] <zhjawe123> all downloads file mix in one folder.
[09:40] <nicofs> Is there an alternative to cheese? I'm using Xubuntu and installing cheese with all required deps would eat 75MB of space...
[09:42] <terminhell> nicofs: really?!
[09:43] <klawd> could someone please help me get my sound to work? http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a635c769271dd8b905c83d21692d078e6fb5b395
[09:44] <nicofs> terminhell, yes, sadly - and my dl allowance is limited, so I can't "just go with it"...
[09:45] <terminhell> nicofs: just, i mean, my option for installing cheese would only need under 4mbs
[09:45] <ant_> Has nvidia-glx been dropped in oneiric and precise? I had to install drivers from nvidia to get this card working
[09:45] <nicofs> terminhell, cheese requires a lot of libraries that come with gnome that i lack...
[09:46] <terminhell> nicofs: idk, wiki some alternatives
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> ant_: which chip?
[09:47] <Ben64> ant_: that will likely cause problems in the future
[09:47] <ant_> its a geforce 7300 card
[09:47] <ant_> old I know
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: guvcview I believe
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> ant_: newer than what I got
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> ant_: install nvidia-current package and it will work
[09:47] <xtruc> Re
[09:47] <ant_> Ben64, I am sure it will someday - but I couldnt find a glx package to match the driver in the repositories
[09:47] <Ben64> ant_: you should use jockey-glx to install drivers
[09:48] <ant_> ActionParsnip, I did, and it complained there was no glx driver
[09:48] <ant_> Ben64, jockey ?
[09:48] <Ben64> err
[09:48] <Ben64> jockey-gtk
[09:48] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: this is funny, 11.10 now gives me white screen lol..
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> ant_: you may need to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot
[09:48] <Ben64> ant_: its an application to help with getting proprietary drivers
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> NyLes_: blacklist the nouveau driver til you can get updated
[09:48] <ant_> ActionParsnip, hard to run from command line  - nouveau didnt work for me
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> ant_: run what?
[09:49] <ant_> I did blacklist nouveau based on a bug report, and after installing nvidia-current (and rebooting) X complained that no GLX was available
[09:49] <Ben64> ant_: you should really use jockey-gtk to install nvidia drivers, but first try to undo the nvidia.com ones
[09:49] <ant_> ActionParsnip, Sorry, was referring to Ben64 about jockey-gtk
[09:50] <NyLes_> ActionParsnip: ok thanks..
[09:50] <ant_> Ben64, does jockey have a command line? If I uninstall nvidia drivers I wont have X working
[09:50] <Ben64> ant_: jockey-text
[09:50] <ant_> Ben64, thanks, will try it later
[09:51] <Ben64> just apt-getting nvidia-current doesn't activate the driver, which is why jockey is the preferred method
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> ant_: run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    and reboot
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: it activates it every time here, I've not used jockey for years now
[09:52] <ant_> Ben64, hmm, that could be my problem - X was attempting the nvidia driver, but couldnt locate the GLX, and theres no nvidia-glx package since natty
[09:52] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: so you do apt-get install nvidia-current and then nvidia-xconfig ?
[09:52] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, thanks - all I needed for 975kB of space...
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: with sudo, yes
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: :)
[09:52] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: cool, i never knew it worked like that
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: its default in Lubuntu
[09:53] <smittix> I have a Elantech Touchpad and for some reason I have to touch quite hard for the cursor to move. It's as if its not reporting pressure properly. Can anyone help with this?
[09:53] <tjadc> Hi, I am using Unity with dual monitors (extended desktop) and wondering if it is expected behaviour that both screens get a launcher, apart from that, I get resistance when moving my mouse cursor from one screen to the other
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: well I always add the xorg updates ppa (less fresh, more stable)
[09:53] <saquib> nh
[09:54] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: i use x-swat ppa
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: yea thats bleeding edge, i use one down from that
[09:55] <Godfather_> hi
[09:56] <Godfather_> im trying to change the file associantion of php files, if i click on 'open with' i get a full list of aplications, but here doesnt appear the application that i want to open with, im on ubuntu 11.10
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: which app do you want to use?
[09:57] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, netbeans
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: is it not listed under the big button labelled: show other applications     ?
[09:59] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, no
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: is there a netbeans icon in dash?
[09:59] <dirtydevil> soreau: I resized the drive but it is at /dev/sda7 I want it to make /dev/sdb or /dev/sda1 how can I make it?
[10:00] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, and i installed netbeans from the sh of netbeans.org, and netbeans is under applications on my bar
[10:00] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip,  what do you mean in dash?
[10:00] <Godfather_> in the left bar of unity
[10:00] <Godfather_> ?
[10:00] <Godfather_> yes it is
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: you may need to make a .desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications   and it will appear in the list
[10:01] <Etherael> http://pointlessprojects.com/media/images/hQhz2.gif What the actual fuck?
[10:01] <ikonia> Etherael: tone it right down
[10:01] <ikonia> !language > Etherael
[10:01] <ikonia> !topic > Etherael
[10:02] <ikonia> !guidlines > Etherael
[10:02] <ikonia> Etherael: please check those links before speaking any more
[10:02] <Etherael> Sorry wrong channel
[10:03] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, i copied into that folder
[10:03] <Godfather_> should i restart x or something like this?
[10:03] <soreau> dirtydevil: sdb would mean hard drive 2. To get it from sda7 to sda1 you'd have to format the hard drive afaik
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: copied what?
[10:04] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/iQ1JfNha
[10:04] <meberhart> if anyone has Apache on their system, would they be kind enough to tell me if there is a "security" folder in their apache2/conf.d directory please?
[10:05] <stephans_> Does anyone know how to get rid of a selection rectangle on the desktop that refuses to go away?
[10:05] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, this is what i have done now, but i have no entry in the Application list
[10:05] <Godfather_> that is 'netbeans'
[10:05] <stephans_> Latest released ubuntu in use
[10:05] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, so maybe i need to restart or so
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: may want to add TextEditor in the categories list too
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: restartcan't hurt, then try the extra category
[10:06] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, extra category?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: line 8 in your pastebin....
[10:07] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, ok
[10:07] <Godfather_> i will add this and then i'll reboot
[10:08] <devildark> ciao
[10:08] <devildark> !list
[10:09] <Ben64> why do people from italy ALWAYS come in here and do !list
[10:09] <mongy> meberhart: running 10.04.4 here and there is a security file
[10:09] <meberhart> a file or a folder?
[10:10] <meberhart> thank you for the response
[10:10] <mongy> meberhart: a file.  much like the apache.conf
[10:10] <meberhart> thank you very much.
[10:11] <meberhart> i wasn't sure if it was left over from an old module or not.
[10:11] <mongy> meberhart: http://pastebin.com/qaVXfatX
[10:11] <revilodraw> how can i test if my laptop supports booting from a usb?
[10:12] <meberhart> mongy - great, thanks so much.
[10:12] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, nope
[10:12] <Godfather_> doesnt appears netbeans option
[10:13] <dirtydevil> soreau: I have to install windows and getting this error " setup was unable to create a new system partition or locate an existing system partition "
[10:13] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/dcfhV8GJ
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: gah
[10:15] <dirtydevil> soreau: I googled it and found a solution by formatting whole drive and install windows then ubuntu. Any other way? I dont want to format whole drive
[10:15] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, in other versions of ubuntu i remember another button open with... and you can choose the program anywhere in root
[10:15] <Godfather_> :-(
[10:15] <dirtydevil> :-(
[10:16] <soreau> dirtydevil: no and we dont support windows here
[10:16] <dirtydevil> soreau: I know I have never used windows too but it is my boss's laptop :(
[10:17] <dirtydevil> soreau: No solution?
[10:17] <soreau> dirtydevil: What is the problem?
[10:17] <dirtydevil> soreau:  "setup was unable to create a new system partition or locate an existing system partition "
[10:18] <dirtydevil> I used gparted to make it /dev/sda7
[10:18] <soreau> dirtydevil: That is a windows problem not ubuntu. Try #windows
[10:18] <dirtydevil> okay
[10:20] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, doesnt exists a file that has the file type assoction with every program?
[10:23] <Roomba_Scooba> is there anyone connected from an university? I need to download some articles from Springerlink.com...
[10:23] <OliiPatha> =)
[10:24] <gamemakingdude> Hi, I am stuck at terminal where it says i have no name
[10:24] <gamemakingdude> and i am unable to log into roo
[10:24] <gamemakingdude> root
[10:25] <Ben64> !root | gamemakingdude
[10:25] <karim_> i need a tutorial who allow me to use gimp
[10:25] <karim_> please help me
[10:26] <gamemakingdude> No im doing su
[10:26] <gamemakingdude> I know roots password
[10:26] <OliiPatha> FloodBot help you
[10:26] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, solved...
[10:26] <mongy> karim_: lots of handy tips http://www.scottphotographics.com/40-best-gimp-tutorials-of-2010/
[10:26] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip, i used ubuntu tweak, http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/05/how-to-manage-file-association-in-ubuntu-with-ubuntu-tweak/
[10:26] <Godfather_> thx!
[10:27] <izz_01> hey folks..
[10:27] <karim_> mongy: thank you
[10:28] <gamemakingdude> So i guess i can't log back into root
[10:28] <gamemakingdude> on my VPS
[10:28] <JessicaM> HI!  is there a way to enable copying terminal-ready paths to the clipboard?
[10:29] <dlentz> JessicaM, you mean copying from the terminal?
[10:31] <gamemakingdude> I guess no one has an answer
[10:33] <llutz_> gamemakingdude: doesn't your vps has a rescue-console?
[10:33] <gamemakingdude> I am in the console
[10:33] <gamemakingdude> no rescuse console
[10:33] <gamemakingdude> the console i am accessing is on the web
[10:33] <gamemakingdude> and it says this
[10:34] <gamemakingdude> I have no name!@ADRServers:/home# su root
[10:34] <gamemakingdude> su: Cannot determine your user name.
[10:34] <llutz_> gamemakingdude: "whoami"
[10:34] <ryao> Are all packages in Ubuntu Precise being compiled with GCC 4.6.2?
[10:34] <gamemakingdude> whoami: cannot find name for user ID 0
[10:34] <gamemakingdude> I
[10:35] <llutz_> gamemakingdude: so you are in a kind of root account
[10:35] <gamemakingdude> What you mean?
[10:35] <gamemakingdude> I can't do anything at all
[10:35] <llutz_> gamemakingdude: then ask your vps-provider for support
[10:37] <vidb> Hello, I try to add space to my Ubuntu partition using gparted, but I cannot resise it.. anyone may help me please?
[10:38] <soreau> vidb: Do it from a live session
[10:39] <vidb> soreau: Yes, I used a live session, but I cannot resize the ubuntu partition.. I tried to resize an other partition and it works, but the ubuntu part wont be resized
[10:39] <vidb> I don't know why :S
[10:42] <JessicaM> dlentz: no i mean ctrl+c on a directory and being able to paste into a command line without "file://...." prepended
[10:42] <soreau> vidb: it could be how you have your partitions laid out
[10:43] <Roomba_Scooba> is there anyone connected from an university? I need to download some scientific publications
[10:43] <llutz_> Roomba_Scooba:  Do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[10:44] <wesley> Hi! I have a question -  I run ubuntu 11.10 - gnome. - When I just even 'touch' a tab (terminal, gedit, etc) the tab moves outside the window
[10:44] <wesley> which is highly annoying me, and I don'tknow why it's doing that :(
[10:45] <wesley> is there any way I can 'adjust' the sensitivity of this?
[10:46] <Roomba_Scooba> llutz_: no I don't
[10:46] <llutz_> !ot | Roomba_Scooba
[10:48] <vidb> soreau: this is a screenshot, the linux part is sda7, when I try to resize it I get this http://oi41.tinypic.com/1hw4mr.jpg 0 Free space following! even I have + 2 Gb free... When I try to resize the sda5 it goes with no problem :S
[10:48] <vidb> soreau, the screenshot http://i40.tinypic.com/9ub51t.jpg
[10:50] <soreau> vidb: Your linux partition is sandwiched between your swap partition and the end of the drive. You only have about 8Mib to expand which isnt much
[10:51] <vidb> vidb: there is no way to fix it ?
[10:51] <vidb> soreau : there is no way to fix it ?
[10:51] <vidb> lol
[10:52] <ahel> hi! I've installed through unetbootin the daily live. Installation went fine but at boot I don't see grub. in fact it switch immediately to memtest86+ :(
[10:52] <soreau> vidb: Look at the sizes and do the math. There is simply no more room unless you shrink one of the other partitions
[10:52] <llutz_> ahel: daily live = precise (12.04)?  #ubuntu+1 then
[10:53] <ahel> I've tried to press 'esc' or 'down arrow' but nothing.
[10:53] <ahel> thank you llutz_
[10:53] <soreau> vidb: Even then you would probably have to delete swap and recreate it at the end of the drive
[10:54] <vidb> soreau: How can I do that ?  I'm newbie with gparted.
[10:54] <soreau> vidb: Short answer: Very carefully
[10:54] <vidb> I mean how can I precise the location "at the end" or not
[10:54] <soreau> ! gparted | vidb
[10:55] <osmosis_paul> Somebody know how can I read the header of one url that is actually one file. I would like to read the version of that file before download
[10:55] <Jaq0p> Hello all. Anyone from denmark in here why is succesfully using "nemid" on ubuntu 10.04?
[10:55] <NyLes> hi
[10:55] <osmosis_paul> I'm trying with wget -S but not only giuve the header, he donload the file as well
[10:56] <NyLes> how can i block nouveau?
[10:56] <soreau> vidb: Basically you would just have to do a bunch of moving and resizing then edit /etc/fstab to tell it the new swap location if it changed
[10:57] <NyLes> can someone tell me ow ca i block nouveau?
[10:57] <eQuiNoX__> hey guys some help with this query? http://askubuntu.com/questions/106148/arora-browser-in-lucid
[10:57] <soreau> vidb: So.. delete swap, move sda7 up to create space for swap at the end, then create the new swap partition then shrink sda5 and resize sda7
[10:57] <JadedJacob> How can I turn off my dial up modem, network card and firewire in ubuntu?
[10:57] <JadedJacob> disable the hardware I mean
[10:58] <JadedJacob> I'm trying to get as much as much battery life out of my laptop as possible
[10:58] <NyLes> !nouveau
[10:58] <soreau> vidb: But its pretty easy, just give some thought to what you are doing
[10:58] <vidb> soreau: How can I move a partition ?
[10:59] <soreau> vidb: Depends where you want to move it to I guess
[10:59] <NyLes> i want to block nouveau for installing my card please tell me how..
[10:59] <vidb> soreau: You said "move sda7 up", how can I do that ?
[11:00] <NyLes> zykotic10: i know you can help me, i want to block nouveau from installing my video card..
[11:01] <NyLes> !blocklist
[11:01] <soreau> vidb: After you delete swap, then you probably want to go ahead and shrink sda5 then for sda7, just tell it to have no space preceding it
[11:02] <soreau> vidb: If there is no space preceding it, then it should come right after sda5..
[11:02] <soreau> vidb: You can do probably move and resize sda7 in one step too
[11:03] <llutz_> NyLes: echo "blacklist nouveau" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/nouveau.conf
[11:03] <vidb> soreau: But why should I shrink sda5 ? I already have 2 Gb of free space (http://i40.tinypic.com/9ub51t.jpg)
[11:03] <vidb> I cannot use it?
[11:04] <soreau> vidb: Well if you only want to consume that unused space, you wouldnt need to
[11:05] <soreau> vidb: I was guessing you would choose a lager size so you wont have to do this again for awhile
[11:05] <vidb> soreau: No, I need just to add the 2Go
[11:06] <NyLes> llutz_: thanks..
[11:07] <soreau> vidb: But if all you want to do is consume that space 1) delete swap 2) edit sda7 and have 0 space preceding and <size of swap> following 3) create a partition in the blank space at the end for swap 4) take note of swaps new name (possibly sda8) then make sure to edit your /etc/fstab on the disk and tell it where your new swap partition is
[11:07] <soreau> vidb: step 2) should effectively move and resize sda7
[11:09] <vidb> soreau: Ok, thank you!
[11:11] <gast2root> howto disable fast user switching in unity?
[11:16] <bijoy> hello friends
[11:16] <bijoy> having some trouble with internet access. can someone help me?
[11:17] <nikwood> quit
[11:18] <fireball98> Hello, I want my gtk2.0 theme to have the background changeable  like  this theme link http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=147762&file1=147762-1.png&file2=147762-2.png&file3=147762-3.png&name=Blapplenesss
[11:18] <fireball98> How can I change that background?
[11:19] <Mrokii> Hello. Why doesn't "less" show files that are shorter than one "page" and is there a way to change that behaviour? It's utterly annoying.
[11:20] <vidb> soreau: I forgot to ask you about the /etc/fstab , how can I edit it with the new swap name ?
[11:20] <fireball98> Hello, I want my gtk2.0 theme to have the background changeable  like  this theme link http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=147762&file1=147762-1.png&file2=147762-2.png&file3=147762-3.png&name=Blapplenesss
[11:20] <vidb> soreau: Actualy I have: # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation
[11:20] <vidb> UUID=9d186a03-9baf-4895-bab1-3424e2bb8838 none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:21] <fireball98> vidb sudo gedit /etc/fstab then edit and save
[11:21] <soreau> vidb: Dont worry about the fstab file on the live session partition, it will be nuked when you reboot. The fstab file you want exists on the sda7 partition you are resizing. So after you are all finished with gparted, mount sda7 and then access the file
[11:21] <bijoy> i am having trouble opening certain websites as Firefox seems to hang waiting for sites like s7.addthis.com, platform.twitter.com, etc.
[11:21] <LjL> Mrokii: it shows them for me... i'm on 12.04 though, maybe it was a bug in previous versions
[11:22] <bijoy> if I disable javascript, some sites work, some don't.
[11:22] <fireball98> can someone tell me how  can I change my background in gtk 2 in nautilus?
[11:22] <Mrokii> LjL: I've had that for a long time. Whenever I want to view short files, "less" doesn't work and I have to use "more".
[11:22] <vidb> soreau: Yes but what I have to put in it exactly ?
[11:22] <fireball98> I want to change it like the creator did in that theme
[11:22] <bc81> fireball98: i think nautilus file browser, you can do Edit > Backgrounds and Emblems > add a new pattern
[11:22] <LjL> Mrokii: well there doesn't seem to be a bug reported about that. out of curiosity, what happens? does it just exit to the shell without saying anything?
[11:23] <Mrokii> LjL: It shows nothing at all in that case.
[11:23] <Mrokii> Just returning to the prompt.
[11:23] <bc81> fireball: then just drag + drop the pattern into the browser window
[11:23] <soreau> vidb: The uuid will probably change after you recreate swap so do this to find it:
[11:23] <soreau> ! uuid | vidb
[11:23] <llutz_> Mrokii: "less --version"  less 436 (maverick 10.10) shows even oneline-files
[11:23] <soreau> vidb: And then just replace the new uuid value for the swap line
[11:24] <vidb> soreau: Ok, thanks! I will try
[11:24] <bijoy> anyone here knows how to fix the javascript issue?
[11:24] <guest> L;
[11:24] <guest> TTR
[11:24] <guest> TR
[11:24] <guest> HRTWTW
[11:24] <llutz_> guest: stop
[11:25] <guest> 4yttrgf
[11:25] <Gentoo64> !language
[11:25] <guest> snsd
[11:25] <guest> qwd
[11:25] <guest> re
[11:25] <Mrokii> llutz_: I have "less 444"
[11:25] <fireball98> it is not working bc81 i want to change the background like this one did http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=147762&file1=147762-1.png&file2=147762-2.png&file3=147762-3.png&name=Blapplenesss
[11:25] <wesley> Does anyone know how I can adjust the 'drag' sensitivity within ubuntu ? right now tabbed windows move outside the window in their own window when I slightly touch/drag them
[11:25] <Mrokii> -afk-
[11:25] <LjL> guest: please stop typing random things now, or i will have to ban you.
[11:26] <bijoy> I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 and all sites work fine. But I decided to come back to 11.04 and issue is still there
[11:26] <bijoy> anyone here who can help me with this?
[11:26] <fireball98> bc81: hey wait i dragged it in the file browser and it works!
[11:27] <fireball98> bc81: wow!
[11:27] <bijoy> soreau?
[11:27] <bijoy> maybe you can help?
[11:27] <soreau> bijoy: Yes?
[11:27] <bijoy> my browser (firefox, chrome, midori) hangs at random sites waiting for platform.twitter.com, s7.addthis.com etc
[11:28] <Dr_willis> bijoy:  if more then one browser is doing it. then tht would point to a dns lookup. or other networking issue.
[11:28] <bijoy> but Dr, I upgraded to 11.10 and sites work fine then
[11:29] <bijoy> i decied to come back to lucid lynx, and the issue persists
[11:29] <soreau> bijoy: Yes check /etc/resolv.conf for your nameserver in each distro
[11:29] <llutz_> Mrokii: do you use less -F option?
[11:29] <Dr_willis> My logic is still logical..  :)
[11:29] <soreau> lucid != 11.04
[11:29] <bijoy> :)
[11:29] <Dr_willis> bijoy:  try setting the system up to use the opendns, or google's dns servers. as a test to see if it helps.
[11:29] <bijoy> I am a newbie. let me check friends. and will get back. thanks
[11:30] <isnnnn> can I safely install KDE to a system which already has gnome and xfce?
[11:30] <LjL> isnnnn: yes
[11:30] <llutz_> isnnnn: you can
[11:30] <bijoy> Dr, I am not sure how to do that. My resolv.conf has only three lines which actually don't make sense to me
[11:30] <Bocanegra> isnnnn: yes
[11:30] <bijoy> # Generated by NetworkManager
[11:30] <bijoy> nameserver 218.248.245.1
[11:30] <bijoy> nameserver 218.248.255.139
[11:30] <isnnnn> great, thx :)
[11:31] <Dr_willis> The network manager tool lets you change your dns servers. thats how i normally do it.
[11:31] <Dr_willis> nameserver = dns server.
[11:31] <fireball98> bc81 what is the maximum resolution for the background pattern?
[11:31] <Dr_willis> 'domain name server' ;) i think. = DNS
[11:31] <meberhart> this is a ridiculous question, and yes i have actually Googled this, but how do i stop netstat when you set it to run continuously? what's the command to quit?
[11:32] <bijoy> okay, got that Dr. but can you guide me on how to do that?
[11:32] <Dr_willis> meberhart:  if its a cli app - try ctrl-c
[11:32] <meberhart> i did
[11:32] <llutz_> meberhart: ctrl-c
[11:32] <Dr_willis> bijoy:  not right now.. heading to work. may be back on later.
[11:32] <Dr_willis> byeeess.
[11:32] <bijoy> okay, thanks for your help Dr
[11:32] <meberhart> maybe it's not working because i'm using an SSH client other than Putty?
[11:32] <fireball98> ??
[11:33] <bijoy> Soreau, maybe you can still help me with this?
[11:33] <meberhart> i finally got it with ctrl+Q
[11:34] <bijoy> how do I change the DNS in the network manager?
[11:34] <soreau> bijoy: Just comment both out (put a # at the beginning of nameserver) and then add one that says nameserver 8.8.8.8
[11:35] <soreau> then test it
[11:35] <bijoy> ok
[11:36] <bijoy> soreau, do I need to restart the computer?
[11:36] <soreau> no
[11:36] <soreau> should take effect as soon as you save the file
[11:37] <bijoy> then I think it does not fix the issue. for example Yahoo mail login hangs at "connected to s.yimg.com"
[11:37] <soreau> bijoy: What does sudo route show for your default gateway?
[11:38] <bijoy> default gateway - 117.213.0.1
[11:39] <soreau> bijoy: And that is the ip of your modem or router? (whatever is providing internet to this machine)
[11:40] <bijoy> not sure. but i don't have a fixed ip for my connection
[11:40] <soreau> bijoy: does it work in a live session the same way?
[11:40] <bijoy> have not checked lucid in live session, but the new version 11.10 in live session works fne
[11:40] <bijoy> fine
[11:41] <woozly> hi, I have ntfs partitions on my disk. how to mount it permamently?
[11:41] <soreau> bijoy: Im not really sure but the experts in ##networking may be able to help if you ask nicely and wait patiently
[11:42] <Gentoo64> woozly, add it to fstab
[11:42] <bijoy> oh ok i join just like i joined #ubuntu, right?
[11:42] <soreau> bijoy: since it works fine in a live session, it should just be some configuration somewhere
[11:42] <soreau> bijoy: yea /j #channel
[11:42] <bijoy> thanks for your help Soreau
[11:43] <soreau> No problem
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> woozly  add it in /etc/fstab
[11:43] <woozly> guys, how to determine UUID? and where to mount it?
[11:43] <soreau> ! uuid | woozly
[11:44] <Mrokii> llutz: no, I don't use the -F option. Maybe there is some configuration that makes less use that automatically?
[11:47] <Gentoo64> woozly, just run blkid as root, then use that in the same fashion the rest of fstab is laid out
[11:47] <Guest2739> Nwf4YrLG
[11:49] <melodie> hi
[11:49] <melodie> I try to find the section services at start in Ubuntu 11.11 : where is it ?
[11:49] <melodie> thanks
[11:50] <smittix> melodie: Top right "cog"
[11:50] <smittix> melodie: "Startup Applications"
[11:51] <melodie> smittix, thanks, will look in a moment !
[11:52] <melodie> brb
[11:52] <djtom1983> hi
[11:52] <vidb> soreau: I'm using the live cd now.. please give me the command that check uid again; it seems that the ubuntu part will be moved too and named to sda6..
[11:52] <soreau> ! uuid | vidb
[11:52] <kroonrs> I can mount the NTFS partition on my external drive, but I want to rename the mount point from the default long hex-string.  I've installed pysdm, and tried to use it, and it works fine for my ext3 partitions, but I can't mount the ntfs partition through the file explorer after I've configured the mount point in pysdm. (Error message says only root can do that)
[11:53] <kroonrs> any suggestions?
[11:53] <djtom1983> someone know something about WiFi ??
[11:53] <soreau> ! someone | djtom1983
[11:53] <jrib> kroonrs: define a label for your partition.  Afterwards, it should mount as /media/label
[11:53] <Gentoo64> kroonrs, add it to fstab, mkidir /mnt/something then mount it to that?
[11:53] <jrib> !label > kroonrs
[11:54] <djtom1983> im trying to hack my own router.. and need some help...
[11:54] <soreau> djtom1983: wrong channel
[11:54] <Gentoo64> djtom1983, why are you trying to hack your own router
[11:54] <Gentoo64> lol
[11:55] <soreau> ! pm | djtom1983
[11:55] <XLV> djtom1983, router running ubuntu? hell yeah
[11:56] <sacarlson> djtom1983: normaly to gain access to those boxes you just hold the reset botton down for 15 or so secounds and that will reset password to factory defaults
[11:56] <ikonia> guys - this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:56] <kroonrs> jrib: how do I define a label?
[11:56] <jrib> kroonrs: ubottu should have sent you a pm with instructions
[11:56] <ikonia> sacarlson: please stop (I've asked you before) with non-ubuntu support in this channel
[11:57] <kroonrs> jrib: I've been on that page - I want to avoid using a partition editor
[11:57] <jrib> kroonrs: that's fine, you can do so
[11:57] <jrib> (though I don't know why you would)
[11:57] <djtom1983> ah i know my passwd's but i try to hack it... child'splay for someone else.. but i have problem with this
[11:57] <ikonia> djtom1983: please stop asking
[11:58] <djtom1983> ikonia kk
[11:58] <kroonrs> jrib: ah - didn't look far enough, sorry
[11:58] <ikonia> djtom1983: this channel supports the Ubuntu operating system, your request is nothing to do with that.
[11:59] <smittix> djtom1983: Try on irc.2600.net #2600
[12:00] <Gentoo64> or... just choose a stronger password
[12:00] <XLV> kroonrs, also in fstab, you can select to mount it using its uuid and noauto.. and create a dir in /media so it always gets mounted using that dir
[12:03] <maniX> hello everyone. i am using amarok on my ubuntu. need to know how to set its proxy here
[12:03] <djtom1983> is here any channel to ask open to that topic?
[12:03] <maniX> djtom1983: ?
[12:03] <djtom1983> wifi hack
[12:04] <Gentoo64> djtom1983, if its your own router just choose a beter password
[12:04] <lucios> lucios
[12:04] <XLV> djtom1983, btw stealing bw is one thing.. hacking another system is another
[12:04] <ikonia> ok - enough
[12:05] <kroonrs> jrib: thanks, ntfslabel was just what I needed (and e2label helped as well!)
[12:05] <kroonrs> thanks to others that gave suggestions too
[12:06] <maniX> guys someone please tell me how do i set proxy to my amarok in ubuntu. I remember using kcmshell4
[12:06] <maniX> but i dont know what argumnets to take
[12:15] <ahel> bzip hash sum mismatched in it-archive.ubuntu.org
[12:15] <bazhang> ahel, which version of ubuntu
[12:15] <ahel> precise
[12:16] <jussi> How does one change text size in a text box in scribus-ng ?
[12:16] <bazhang> ahel, thats in #ubuntu+1 as its not released
[12:16] <_cb> s
[12:17] <ahel> how could i know if it is a problem of it-archive or a problem of precise? what is the chan for it-ubuntu?
[12:17] <kroonrs> jrib: any idea on how to get my windows partition in my computer to mount automatically at boot?  (it doesn't appear in the fstab)
[12:18] <OerHeks> !it > ahel
[12:19] <bazhang> jussi, you may wish to also ask in #scribus or #scribus-dev
[12:19] <jussi> bazhang: yeah, good point, thanks
[12:21] <xharx> e
[12:22] <_cb> I have a series of <a> tags which are centered. Want to follow them with a <ul><a></a><ul><li></a></li><li></a></li></ul></ul>. With the first <ul> aligned with the <a> and the <li> dropping vertically. How do I do it?
[12:23] <iceroot> _cb: #sed #bash or something like that
[12:23] <sacarlson> kroonrs: this link explains a method to edit /etc/fstab to add auto mount of ntfs partitions http://askubuntu.com/questions/92863/mount-ntfs-partition-at-startup-with-non-root-user-as-owner
[12:24] <Lint> _cb, regular expressions are incompatible with HTML
[12:24] <iceroot> Lint: no, escaping is the key
[12:24] <kroonrs> sacarlson: thanks, I'll take a look
[12:24] <_cb> Lint, sorry. What do you mean. Maybe I did not ask the question correctly?
[12:24] <klawd> could someone please help me get my sound to work? http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a635c769271dd8b905c83d21692d078e6fb5b395
[12:25] <_cb> sorry guys. Wrong forum. Thought I was in css
[12:26] <vidb> soreau: hi again, I just moved and resized the ubuntu partition with no errors.. but the problem is that the Ubuntu partition has been changed from sda7 to sda6, how can I change it in ubuntu config?
[12:27] <soreau> vidb: I told you already
[12:27] <soreau> vidb: just change the uuid in fstab accordingly
[12:28] <vidb> soreau: Yes but I found only swap in the fstab
[12:28] <soreau> vidb: what?
[12:28] <XLV> vidb, look again at fstab .. a partition wiht mount point /
[12:28] <vidb> soreau: and its not the same content that I have found when I opened it in ubuntu
[12:29] <soreau> vidb: You said you are on live session?
[12:29] <vidb> soreau: there is no uuid in the file this time!
[12:29] <XLV> vidb, you are probably using some ubuntu live cd and you are actually opening the fstab of that live cd
[12:29] <sacarlson> vidb: this points to the method to see all the uuid drives seen on your system and how to modify sdxx to uuid http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/321/fstab-with-uuid/
[12:29] <vidb> vidb: now im in the live session
[12:29] <soreau> vidb: You need to edit the fstab file on the actual hard disk, not the one in the live session file system
[12:30] <vidb> XLV:  oh yes maybe! well I found only one media in /media ...
[12:30] <XLV> vidb, mount ubuntu root partition in some dir in /media .. then do a "chroot /media/<that dir>
[12:31] <soreau> vidb: All you need to do is check the output of mount
[12:31] <vidb> soreau & XLV ; I checked it again, its the ubuntu partition, not the live one..
[12:31] <soreau> vidb: It will tell you want is mounted where
[12:31] <soreau> well something is really wrong then
[12:32] <soreau> vidb: Did you try to boot ubuntu before correcting fstab?
[12:32] <vidb> soreau: no, here is the fstab file: aufs / aufs rw 0 0 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/sda6 swap swap defaults 0 0
[12:32] <jackqang> msg <jae> <hi~>
[12:32] <vidb> only this 3 lines..
[12:33] <vidb> when I checked it last time using my ubuntu it was differant
[12:33] <jackqang> msg <jackqang> <how r you?>
[12:33] <venky> how to install open office ubuntu 11.04 any one help me?
[12:33] <soreau> vidb: I really am not convinced you are looking at the right file. Can you pastebin the output of mount to pastebin.com?
[12:33] <LjL> jackqang: you're doing it wrong.
[12:33] <LjL> jackqang: /msg nickname message
[12:33] <sveinse> I have an aptitude/dpkg issue. I want to use the dpkg option --force-confnew, so I pass aptitude -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confnew" dist-upgrade. However this makes aptitude fail with "dpkg: error: need and action option". If I remove the -o, the error goes away. (For other reasons, I have to stick with aptitude)
[12:34] <sveinse> I'm running this on Natty
[12:34] <venky> how to install open office ubuntu 11.04 any one help me?
[12:35] <vidb> soreau: I have not used the mount command, I mounted it manually using the graphic mode, then I go to /media/...
[12:36] <soreau> vidb: The output of mount will tell you what is mounted where
[12:36] <powned> salut les gens
[12:36] <bil21al> how to install gnome 3 with ubuntu 11.10 ?
[12:36] <vidb> soreau: but there is only one folder in /media
[12:36] <vanadium> can anyone help me know how to change directory permissions from root to user?
[12:36] <vidb> it must be this one
[12:36] <crizzy> bil21al: install 'gnome-shell' package
[12:37] <LjL> vanadium: first off, are you sure you want to do that? you generally shouldn't change permissions in Ubuntu. if you need to access something owned by root, use sudo.
[12:37] <sveinse> Is there a not-so-n00b users channel for ubuntu?
[12:37] <sacarlson> vanadium: change permisions or change owner?  they will both work to some degree
[12:38] <Zerpex> Hi guys, when I do "groupadd user3", and then "useradd -d /var/www/user3 -p password123 -m -g user3 user3" - when I then try to log in with that user - it says that username or password is wrong :S do anyone know what can be wrong?
[12:38] <ojii> what would my next step be if a bug on LP is marked as "Invalid" but I disagree? (Bug in question is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/936630 and not sure why it got shot down...)
[12:38] <vanadium> I have tried using sudo chmod and sudo chown to no avail
[12:39] <vidb> soreau: sorry I was wrong :$ I typed nano /etc/fstab instead of /media/..../etc/fstab :$.. (even I was in the /media/.../ folder)
[12:39] <sacarlson> vanadium: maybe the file systems are not linux maybe windows file systems that have no owner or perms
[12:39] <vanadium> the directory is in the home/user folder
[12:39] <soreau> vidb: yea / always points to your root folder
[12:40] <vanadium> I am actually using Aptana IDE and those directories were created by way of Cucumber and Rspec
[12:40] <soreau> vidb: so if you were in the directory of your mounted partition, you would just type nano etc/fstab
[12:40] <sacarlson> vanadium: but what file system is it in?   the mount command should tell us that
[12:40] <vanadium> it is ext4
[12:41] <vidb> soreau:  I typed it but it opened the live cd fstab file ...!
[12:41] <sacarlson> vanadium: ok if it's ext4 and it's now mounted as read write (could be mounted as read only) then chown should work
[12:41] <soreau> vidb: just make sure you get the right one
[12:42] <vanadium> using chown gives me the message: "invalid user"
[12:42] <vanadium> I have tried with a, g, u
[12:42] <vidb> vidb: well , I need to complete the final step.. What the type of the swap partition please ? logical and ext4 not ?
[12:43] <sacarlson> vanadium: oh ok so the disk has been moved to a system that doesn't have that user on that system so it can't change to that user name I guess
[12:43] <Hazel|work> hmm
[12:43] <soreau> vidb: You only need to change the uuids. Everything else should stay the same
[12:43] <Hazel|work> trying to diagnose something on a friend's [very out of date] server
[12:43] <Hazel|work> it is running Jaunty
[12:44] <sacarlson> vanadium: or the user number doesn't match that user?
[12:44] <vidb> soreau: I have not created the swap yet.
[12:44] <Hazel|work> which is now missing even from gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:44] <vanadium> sacarlson: no the disk has never been moved
[12:44] <Hazel|work> is there an existent archive of jaunty?
[12:44] <vanadium> but a (all) should work?
[12:44] <jpds> Hazel|work: Upgrade.
[12:44] <sacarlson> vanadium: you did use sudo chown  to run the command didn't you?
[12:44] <vidb> soreau: the swap must be a logical partition, not ?
[12:44] <vanadium> ys
[12:44] <Hazel|work> jpds: well, yes
[12:44] <vanadium> yes*
[12:45] <Hazel|work> but I just wanted to run wireshark (or tcpdump) and work out if they really were being ddos'd or not
[12:45] <Hazel|work> and they've got some bunch of tomcat stuff
[12:45] <sacarlson> vanadium: and the user you are now loged in is in the sudo list?
[12:45] <Hazel|work> and I don't really want to take on responsibility for upgrading it...
[12:45] <vidb> I need a tutorial about creating swap :S
[12:45] <Hazel|work> I just want to install a packet sniffer
[12:45] <Hazel|work> heh
[12:45] <jpds> Hazel|work: cd /etc/apt/; sudo sed -i s/'gb.archive'/'old-releases'/ sources.list
[12:45] <soreau> ! swap | vidb
[12:45] <vanadium> yes it is, in fact it is the only user
[12:45] <Hazel|work> jpds: thank you! <3
[12:45] <jpds> Hazel|work: But tell them to switch back to gb.archive later and upgrade. ;)
[12:46] <sacarlson> vanadium: well that's all I can think of anyone else have a clue here?
[12:46] <blackarchan> so i installed nautilus-actions 3.1.5 from source and then installed nautilus-actions-extra but i don`t see the actions in nautilus-actions-config-tool why??
[12:46] <sacarlson> vanadium: just for grins can you do sudo ls ; ?
[12:46] <vanadium> sacarlson: thanks for looking into it, quite a peculiar issue eh?
[12:47] <vanadium> ok
[12:47] <vanadium> app	   db	     Gemfile	   log	     README.rdoc  tmp
[12:47] <vanadium> config	   doc	     Gemfile.lock  public    script	  vendor
[12:47] <vanadium> config.ru  features  lib	   Rakefile  spec
[12:48] <vanadium> features and spec are locked
[12:48] <sacarlson> vanadium: oh I just wanted to know if you got an error so that proves as far as I know that this user is a sudo user
[12:48] <Hazel|work> jpds: hmm
[12:48] <share> getrate /wc
[12:48] <share> :)
[12:48] <vidb> sordina: what filesystem should I choose for swap ? and I have to put a laber or not ? :S
[12:49] <__Alex_> vidb: The Linux Swap FS
[12:49] <sacarlson> vanadium: your sure the file system is mounted as read write?  maybe pastebin us the output of mount
[12:49] <__Alex_> And no, no label is needed
[12:49] <vanadium> anyone using Aptana here and may have faced a similar issue?
[12:49] <soreau> vidb: you dont need a label and there is no file system.. you just select swap
[12:49] <vidb> thats all ? :p
[12:50] <__Alex_> Yes
[12:50] <soreau> vidb: thats all
[12:50] <Hazel|work> jpds: presumably they should upgrade to lucid, rather than downgrade to hardy?
[12:50] <vidb> hehe :p well I'm very carefull with gparted, I want to be sure of anything I do :P
[12:50] <vidb> Thank you! :p
[12:50] <__Alex_> NP
[12:50] <vanadium> sacarlson: I have never used mount, any options with it that I need to enter?
[12:50] <jpds> Hazel|work: Downgrades are in no way supported.
[12:51] <Hazel|work> heh
[12:51] <Hazel|work> jpds: also, should they go jaunty -> lucid, or jaunty -> karmic -> lucid?
[12:51] <sacarlson> vanadium: just mount with no options will default to show all mounts on that system oh us sudo mount
[12:51] <jpds> Hazel|work: They have to do the latter.
[12:51] <vanadium> ok
[12:51] <jpds> Hazel|work: As jumps are only supported between LTS releases.
[12:51] <Hazel|work> jpds: had they been running Hardy, can you upgrade LTS -> next LTS?
[12:51] <Hazel|work> ah, OK
[12:52] <Hazel|work> presumably you can do Hardy -> Lucid, but not Hardy -> Precise?
[12:52] <jpds> Hazel|work: Yes.
[12:52] <Hazel|work> (when it is released)
[12:52] <blackarchan> so i installed nautilus-actions 3.1.5 from source and then installed nautilus-actions-extra but i don`t see the actions in nautilus-actions-config-tool why??
[12:52] <Hazel|work> jpds: thanks :)
[12:52] <jpds> Hazel|work: no worries.
[12:53] <vanadium> /dev/loop0 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:53] <vanadium> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[12:53] <vanadium> none on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[12:53] <vanadium> none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[12:53] <vanadium> none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
[12:53] <FloodBot1> vanadium: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:53] <vanadium> none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[12:53] <sacarlson> vanadium: I don't see any /home mounted
[12:54] <lucifer> hi i'm using blackbuntu...
[12:54] <lucifer> Can I Ask my Questions here...?
[12:54] <sacarlson> vanadium: so if home exists in / then it mounted as read only /dev/loop0 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:54] <Chex_> I'm having problems changing the permissions of an external harddrive under /media/. Chmod doesn't change any permissions :(
[12:54] <vanadium> what is the solution?
[12:54] <__Alex_> Chex: Did you do it as root?
[12:55] <sacarlson> vanadium: are you running from a livecd?
[12:55] <Chex_> Yup, tried both sudo, sudo su and as an ordinary user
[12:55] <Chex_> The ordinary user is the owner of the disk
[12:55] <ikonia> lucifer: sorry no.
[12:55] <__Alex_> Chex: If it's a DOS/WINDOWS disc, then there is no way to change premissions
[12:55] <vanadium> no I used wubi to install ubuntu
[12:55] <Chex_> It's formatted as NTFS
[12:55] <duelle> Hi, I occasionally experience the problem that my system doesn't boot up to the window manager and instead stops before. Logs say http://pastebin.com/LHVFwMqG . But if I change to TTy and enter "sudo service lightdm start" WM starts without problems and everythings fine ...
[12:55] <Chex_> Does that mean that another user can't access the disc?
[12:56] <meberhart> can someone explain to me what Wubi is?
[12:56] <ikonia> Chex_: NTFS is mounted using a userapce "fuse" driver, which means only the user mounting the disk can get permisssions to that volume
[12:56] <meberhart> a way to install it on Windows?
[12:56] <ikonia> Chex_: (basically anyway)
[12:56] <sacarlson> vanadium: oh that might be the problem then,  maybe try a usb flash drive install instead of wubi.  does anyone know if wubi works now?
[12:56] <JNL_user> -
[12:56] <Chex_> Ah, thanks for the explanation.
[12:56] <lucifer> where can i ask, is there a forum for backtrack or similar Ubuntu Base OS...?
[12:56] <Chex_> The reason I want to share its permissions is so that I can make a samba share out of the whole disk
[12:56] <ikonia> lucifer: check the website you got the software from for it's support resources
[12:57] <vanadium> there is no workaround?
[12:57] <__Alex_> Chex_: That's the problem. Only POSIX-Compliant file systems can store POSIX premissions, such as UFS, ZFS, XFS, Ext1-4, brtfs, etc. NTFS is NOT on the list
[12:57] <lucifer> ikonia, oK tNx
[12:57] <Chex_> That makes sense
[12:57] <sacarlson> vanadium: the work around if you have nothing to loose is dual boot with a usb flash drive install in my opinion
[12:58] <asier> please how can change the resolution
[12:58] <vidb> rebooting..
[12:58] <vanadium> sacarlson: ok thanks! will look into this direction
[12:59] <ljsoftnet> how do i put icons in conky?
[12:59] <sacarlson> vanadium: I'm sure that isn't the only solution but I'm not a windows expert in this case
[12:59] <vanadium> but you are saying that /home is not mounted right?
[12:59] <sacarlson> vanadium: it's mounted but just not writeable
[12:59] <blackarchan> so i installed nautilus-actions 3.1.5 from source and then installed nautilus-actions-extra but i don`t see the actions in nautilus-actions-config-tool why?? no one can help me?
[13:00] <Chex_> thanks __Alex_ ikonia
[13:00] <__Alex_> Chex_: If you want to share it in samba, you need to format it. Try: "sudo mkfs.ext4 -L SambaDisk /dev/sdXY", where X is the disk ID, and Y is the partition number
[13:00] <vanadium> ok thanks for helping!
[13:00] <Chex_> I'd rather keep it as NTFS to comply with my windows boxes aswell
[13:01] <cucujoidea> hello, I have an installation problem with a fake- RAID 1 (mirroring) system (ubuntu 11.10). The problem is, no drives are shown and the installation can not take place. The installer is the alternate one (tried both 32 and 64 bit). it worked with ubuntu 11.04 alternate installer (drive was shown as /dev/mapper/pdc_bcjjhig1 ). Is it possible to make the drives visible for the 11.10 installer?
[13:01] <duelle> Hi, I occasionally experience the problem that my system doesn't boot up to the window manager and instead stops before. Logs say http://pastebin.com/LHVFwMqG . But if I change to TTy and enter "sudo service lightdm start" WM starts without problems and everythings fine ...
[13:01] <personiillaaa> hola
[13:01] <asier> how i can change the resolution to 1024x768 in Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS? Iḿ virtsualing in VirtualBox! And I have 64 MB of Memory of video!! (bad english: i'm spanish)
[13:02] <personiillaaa> hola guarrilla
[13:02] <Myrtti> !es | personiillaaa
[13:02] <personiillaaa> fkdnd
[13:02] <personiillaaa> sdkgdo
[13:02] <personiillaaa> g
[13:02] <personiillaaa> f
[13:02] <personiillaaa> f
[13:02] <FloodBot1> personiillaaa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:02] <personiillaaa> f
[13:02] <personiillaaa> f
[13:02] <sachita> facebook
[13:02] <sacarlson> vanadium: oh I do see there is a /home/administrator directory mount gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/administrator/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=administrator)  that's read write mounted
[13:03] <d-snutz> hey guys, quick vbox question...  I am running 11.04 natty.  Vbox lets me install Win7 and a few programs but then I get a blue screen saying it 'doesnt meet minimum requirements'.
[13:03] <ikonia> d-snutz: there you go then,
[13:03] <asier> where is #ubuntu chat in spanish???
[13:03] <ikonia> asier: #ubuntu-es
[13:03] <asier> thank
[13:03] <d-snutz> ikonia, if it were that simple i wouldnt be here
[13:03] <thevaliantx> how can i force an install of google earth?  i keep trying to install it, but apt is saying something about the install failing because of a wireless internet driver. ??
[13:04] <sacarlson> vanadium: so that must be writeable?  it that the directory you were playing in?  if not that seem to be the only thing in /home you can write in
[13:04] <ikonia> d-snutz: there is normally an error code along with the blue screen the guys in ##windows should be able to tell you what that error means and you can progress it forward from there
[13:04] <nonono> hi, in what exactly is having ssh keys configured more secure than just not doing any of that and diong passwords logins?
[13:04] <nonono> is it then more easy to snoop into traffic?
[13:05] <thevaliantx> is apt a debian command?
[13:05] <d-snutz> ikonia: true, i think its a vbox configuration tho, i have it set to run 4gb of ram and one processor
[13:05] <ikonia> d-snutz: get the error code mapped to a reason, then you can logically work out what is failing
[13:06] <d-snutz> ikonia: thanks for the reply
[13:06] <d-snutz> ikonia: will do
[13:06] <d-snutz> Ikonia: should have known there are few quick fixes in linux
[13:06] <ikonia> d-snutz: what ?
[13:07] <duelle> Hi, I occasionally experience the problem that my system doesn't boot up to the window manager and instead stops before. Logs say http://pastebin.com/LHVFwMqG . But if I change to TTYand enter "sudo service lightdm start" WM starts without problems and everythings fine ... If any additional information is needed just tell me.
[13:07] <JNL_> d-snutz: did you recently upgrade the guest tools??
[13:07] <d-snutz> ikonia: dont get me wrong, i love linux
[13:07] <d-snutz> ikonia: no
[13:07] <d-snutz> ikonia: i am new to vbox
[13:07]  * thevaliantx wonders if the ubuntu community, in general, is becoming like the debian community, on IRC :/
[13:07] <Myrtti> nonono: passwords are usually relatively short and easy-ish to brute force, while keys are usually randomly generated data
[13:08] <ikonia> thevaliantx: that sort of /me command won't help
[13:08] <d-snutz> JNL_ no, i am new to vbox
[13:08] <thevaliantx> ikonia, and asking for help in a polite manner does?
[13:08] <ikonia> thevaliantx: sure
[13:08] <klawd> i seriously don't get why it should be that hard to get sound going on ubuntu
[13:08] <klawd> it works out of the box on windows!
[13:08] <Myrtti> thevaliantx: you've tried apt-get -f install already?
[13:08] <ikonia> klawd: you're not using windows though, so it's a pointless comparision
[13:09] <thevaliantx> ikonia, no it doesn't.  i note that you basically told another guy here that linux was easy, and you had to be told that if it was easy the person wouldn't be here asking for help.
[13:09] <norbert_> hi, I trying to get ls -l (so not just ls) to display full paths
[13:09] <klawd> ikonia: sure. but it should work ootb as well imho
[13:09] <norbert_> I know find will display full paths, but I need the -l part of ls for the dates
[13:09] <ikonia> thevaliantx: where did I say that ?
[13:09] <klawd> ikonia: i've almost wasted half a day now trying to get sound to work
[13:09] <nonono> Myrtti: is that the one single reason? that passwords can be brute-force and keys can't? anything else?
[13:10] <sipior> nonono: the important point is that no actual credentials ever go over the wire with rsa authentication, which is strictly challenge/response.
[13:10] <ikonia> klawd: it can be frustrating, part of the issues you'll find is that not all hardware is supported out of the box or auto configured
[13:10] <thevaliantx> Myrtti, i was asking how to get apt to install google earth, had no idea that i could use the -f flag to do that, but it still leaves me concerned about the other part that apt is complaining about (the b43 wireless driver, or something like that).
[13:10] <JNL_> d-snutz: did you have an vm of windows running before?
[13:10] <ikonia> thevaliantx: the wireless error is probably a red-herring and nothing to do with google earth
[13:10] <klawd> ikonia: i don't know what else to try now. i tried most every tutorial guide and trouble shooter i could find
[13:11] <klawd> and i'm not really getting any help by pros
[13:11] <meberhart> man, it took me three days to install Google Earth on the new Fedora ...
[13:11] <klawd> it's really frustrating
[13:11] <ikonia> thevaliantx: if your wireless package didn't install correctly, each subsiquent package will complain that the previous wireless package is failing
[13:11] <d-snutz> JNL_ no, new computer
[13:11] <thevaliantx> ikonia, just curious, sure it has nothing to do with google earth, but it did stop apt from installing google earth without using a force flag.
[13:11] <Myrtti> thevaliantx: -f tries to fix whatever is jammed in the installation queue, especially the b43 package
[13:11] <thevaliantx> ikonia, okay, thanks.
[13:11] <klawd> ikonia: the worst thing is: the windows guys are mocking me
[13:11] <ljsoftnet> how do i put icons in conky?
[13:12] <Ben64> klawd: laptop or desktop? what version ubuntu? 64 or 32 bit
[13:12] <d-snutz> JNL_ it keeps saying doesnt meet minimum requirements
[13:12] <ikonia> thevaliantx: it maybe worth checking the dpkg log file to see if/what it's complaining about in reference to the wireless package and consider trying to fix that
[13:12] <klawd> Ben64: desktop, 64
[13:12] <ikonia> d-snutz: get the blue screen error code as I've suggested, you can work it forward from there
[13:13] <thevaliantx> i'm scared to death that i might end up without wireless.  i understand that the b43 driver is 'legacy' or something like that.  i'm using a Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop.
[13:13] <Ben64> klawd: ubuntu version?
[13:13] <ikonia> thevaliantx: the worst case situation, you need to re-install the wireless package
[13:13] <d-snutz> JNL_ thanks.  I'll open it now and see if I get one this time.
[13:13] <klawd> 11.10 iirc. is there a command where i can see?
[13:13] <Ben64> klawd: lsb_release -sd
[13:14] <d-snutz> ikonia: thanks, ill try it now
[13:14] <klawd> 11.10, yes
[13:16] <klawd> Ben64: you got an idea?
[13:17] <Ben64> klawd: you could try a 32 bit livecd and see if there is sound there
[13:17] <Ben64> klawd: or this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1598814
[13:18] <klawd> Ben64: ill look into it, thanks
[13:18] <Ben64> the forum link isn't specifically about your card though
[13:18] <Ben64> make sure to make a backup of any file you change
[13:18] <subthalamus> howdy
[13:19] <Silverlion> subthalamus: aloha
[13:19] <brkolog> gruess gott
[13:19] <subthalamus> anybody know any full disk encryption solutions with a "under duress" password?
[13:19] <xharx> j #ubuntu.de
[13:20] <sipior> subthalamus: truecrypt has one, as i recall.
[13:20] <subthalamus> u know something u'd enter to nuke to contents while it says something like "decrypting your data, please standby"
[13:20] <subthalamus> to=the
[13:20] <JadedJacob> Can somone recommend me a good wireless adapter?
[13:21] <JadedJacob> That works out of the box with ubuntu
[13:21] <subthalamus> jared, pci, usb, pcimcia?
[13:21] <subthalamus> whats it for?
[13:21] <JadedJacob> pci or usb, i can't decide.
[13:21] <mongy> JadedJacob: I have one of these, works ootb http://www.amazon.co.uk/Technologies-802-11N-150Mbps-Wireless-Compatible/dp/B0035FVL4G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1317666395&sr=8-2 (usb)
[13:22] <duelle> JadedJacob, I use a netgear WG111v3 (b/g) which works ootb
[13:22] <subthalamus> PCI then, and I'm really not aware of any NICs that wont work...
[13:22] <JadedJacob> I want to start off with a good chipset, and then when I can afford it get a high gain directional antenna for it.
[13:22] <Ben64> pci usually works a lot better
[13:23] <vidb> soreau: back again... after a failed reboot :(
[13:23] <subthalamus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[13:23] <vidb> soreau: I got this error after rebooting: Error> unknown fs      grup rescue
[13:24] <medeman> Hello, I wanted to download Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS via torrent from here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent, however the link is down. It's the link I get from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[13:24] <vidb> soreau: unknow filesystem *
[13:24] <subthalamus> i'm a fan of realtek, asus, 3com, cnet, linksys,
[13:24] <mongy> medeman: it's now 10.04.4
[13:24] <subthalamus> maybe couple others
[13:24] <Ben64> medeman: because 10.04.4 is out
[13:25] <subthalamus> jacob, good enough?
[13:25] <cucujoidea> http://askubuntu.com/questions/71466/raid-1-array-not-found-in-server-installer  is there a workaround for RAID 1 systems?
[13:25] <medeman> mongy: Ben64: Alright, that works, thank you. Uhmm does 10.4.4 support all wifi chipsets that 11.10 does?
[13:25] <Ben64> uh, probably not
[13:26] <Ben64> 11.10 has 18 months of extra kernel development
[13:26] <m0n2t3rcit7> hey guys am new o irc but I would like to learn about packaging
[13:26] <subthalamus> sipior, r u talking about the plausible deniability?
[13:27] <sipior> subthalamus: yes.
[13:27] <subthalamus> doesnt seem quite the same
[13:27] <medeman> I ask because 11.10 supports my Tenda W541V 2.0 wifi stick and 10.10 doesn't, so I was wondering if 10.4.4 does (which is newer then 10.10, right?)
[13:27] <NyLes> what is the use of quiet splash option?
[13:28] <subthalamus> if the FBI is looking through you hdd, they're gonna notice half the space being gone
[13:28] <Ben64> medeman: 10.10 = 10/2010, 10.04 = 04/2010 so no, it is not newer
[13:29] <subthalamus> sipior, looking for something with several passwords, one of which provokes a disk wipe
[13:29] <medeman> Ben64: but 10.04 got updated more recently, didn't it? (10.04.4)
[13:29] <Ben64> medeman: it just receives security updates
[13:29] <Ben64> subthalamus: with truecrypt they wouldn't be able to tell
[13:30] <subthalamus> Ben64: explain further please?
[13:30] <JadedJacob> thanks duelle
[13:30] <m0n2t3rcit7> Hey guys
[13:30] <JadedJacob> I already have a DWL-G122 ver C, but it's range is terrible.
[13:31] <Ben64> kinda offtopic for here, you should just read up on it. you can have a second hidden partition depending on the password, so you can have a "fake" partition that doesn't have anything sensitive in it
[13:31] <medeman> Ben64: Aww, is there a way to put the chip firmware from 11.10 into 10.04?
[13:31] <uKi`> can I disable "make" for a certain user on my ubuntu server?
[13:31] <Ben64> medeman: not easily. you should just use 11.10 at this point
[13:31] <JadedJacob> subthalamus: cheers for that url
[13:32] <medeman> Ben64: Yea, but it didn't work anymore after I installed NVidia drivers (on a clean install)
[13:32] <subthalamus> JadedJacob: no problem, search engine's your friend
[13:32] <JadedJacob> yep :)
[13:32] <Ben64> medeman: wifi drivers have nothing to do with nvidia drivers
[13:33] <medeman> Ben64: Yea, but 11.10 didn't work anymore after I installed those NVidia drivers
[13:33] <medeman> Ben64: So I wanted to try 10.04
[13:34] <Ben64> medeman: you should just get nvidia to work in 11.10
[13:34] <ironfroggy> Can anyone tell me how to get autofs to unmount remote volumes when my machine is suspended?
[13:34] <uKi`> can I disable "make" for a certain user on my ubuntu server? anyone?
[13:34] <ironfroggy> otherwise the connection breaks and samba shares just timeout, and are seemingly impossible to force unmount after resuming.
[13:35] <loganrun> does anyone know if there is a way to fix the unity window manager so that you can drag a the title bar of a window that does not have focus from being maximized
[13:35] <loganrun> it is really annoying if you try to drag the window and it does nothing just because it does not have focus
[13:35] <Ben64> !pm | m0n2t3rcit7
[13:35] <m0n2t3rcit7> am new to this channel, am a n00b
[13:35] <jgoldman85> would anyone know why ubuntu would run so incredibly slowly on an hp i7 with 8gb of memory?
[13:36] <sipior> ironfroggy: one possible solution: http://www.palebluedot.nl/jml/computer-stuff/26-umountnfs.html (i agree that it is an embarrassing problem under linux)
[13:36] <bazhang> jgoldman85, need more data than that
[13:36] <jgoldman85> what do you need?
[13:36] <fidel> jgoldman85: most likely not until you add some more infos (pretty generic right now)
[13:36] <Abhijit> hi m0n2t3rcit7 do you have any question?
[13:36] <jgoldman85> im a first time ubuntu user
[13:36] <Abhijit> !details | jgoldman85
[13:37] <jgoldman85> i cant shut the comp down;  programs run slowly; can't multitask...
[13:37] <jatt> turn it off
[13:37] <Kaapa> hey guys - I need to upgrade my bios and have only windows. What options do I have? Tried freedos but didn't work
[13:37] <ironfroggy> sipior: thank you, that's a good lead.
[13:38] <fidel> Kaapa: depends on the bios & the options the vendor provides
[13:38] <Wiz_KeeD> hello guys
[13:38] <Kaapa> do I really need to install windows on a partition? is there same live cd?
[13:38] <Abhijit> Kaapa, ##windows
[13:38] <Wiz_KeeD> can anyone tell me how can i install the equivalent of "system restore" in windows?
[13:38] <Kaapa> fidel: windows only executable, toshiba
[13:38] <Wiz_KeeD> just in case i mess something up...
[13:38] <Wiz_KeeD> i can undo the damage
[13:38] <Kaapa> Abhijit: the problem is that I don't have it :p
[13:39] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, a restore point? like a bootable iso?
[13:39] <fidel> Kaapa: well - then feel doomed and use some kind of windows live cd. anyway you get most likely more/better help in a windows centric channel
[13:39] <m0n2t3rcit7> @Abhijit
[13:39] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, or more like a clone
[13:39] <Kaapa> fidel: thanks, I'll try
[13:39] <thevaliantx> ikonia, i looked in the dpkg log and it says that the b43 driver is 'half-configured' or whatever that means.  (i wish there was a long, in-depth tutorial (maybe even a high quality book?) that takes a beginner all the way up to being a master of all things linux administration.
[13:39] <Wiz_KeeD> i wouldn't know, that's why i came here :))
 hey guys - I need to upgrade my bios and HAVE ONLY windows. What options do I have? Tried freedos but didn't work
[13:40] <Abhijit> m0n2t3rcit7, yes?
[13:40] <Wiz_KeeD> furthermore, install php mysql and apache the latest version and stuff, a good tutorial? for ubuntu 10.4?
[13:40] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, you could look into clonezilla or remastersys
[13:40] <Tyrope> Greetings, I'm trying to create a shortcut to "vim /var/log/apache2/error.log" on my desktop, would the 'ln' command work for this, or is that only for files?
[13:40] <bazhang> !lamp | Wiz_KeeD
[13:40] <Wiz_KeeD> will do, thank you!
[13:40] <Abhijit> Wiz_KeeD, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[13:40] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah i was thinking about lamp
[13:41] <Orsb> Hi there, A message keeps popping up that I have less than 200 MB on my file system. I have checked the disk utility prg which shows that I have used 99% of my 40 GB drive. But I have a disk capacity of over 250 GB! I would really like to sort it out, please help.
[13:41] <Abhijit> Wiz_KeeD, we do not have the exact alternate for 'every' software from windows. with new system you need to leanr new ways of using and maintaing it
[13:41] <m0n2t3rcit7> I am not sure if I am in the corect channel but I need some help with Ubuntu 11.10, I cant use it behind proxy. Any ideas
[13:41] <bazhang> Orsb, you have a separate home partition?
[13:41] <m0n2t3rcit7> @ Abhijit I am not sure if I am in the corect channel but I need some help with Ubuntu 11.10, I cant use it behind proxy. Any ideas
[13:42] <jgoldman85> i cant shut the comp down;  programs run slowly; can't multitask...  suggestions anyone?
[13:42] <nibbler> m0n2t3rcit7, configure the proxy?
[13:42] <jatt> Orsb: sudo fdisk -l
[13:42] <NyLes> can i ask here about lubuntu? because people there seems away from their keyboard?
[13:42] <compdoc> you can ask
[13:43] <compdoc> no one may know
[13:43] <bazhang> jgoldman85, please give some examples of multitask; what exactly are the error messages you get, what version of ubuntu, what graphics card and driver
[13:43] <Wiz_KeeD> i was just looking for a way to backup my system as i will most probably screw it up and want to restore to a certain point in case that happens instead of formatting...is it that bad?
[13:43] <NyLes> lubuntu doesn't recognize my video card NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400.. im using Lubuntu 10.04
[13:43] <jgoldman85> gimmie a sec
[13:43] <Chipzzz> jgoldman85: open system monitor and see if something's hogging your cpu
[13:43] <medeman> Ben64: Sorry, I was afk...Anyways, I already tried to get NVidia drivers working. With no success. Even after a lot of conversation with the IRC here...
[13:43] <Abhijit> m0n2t3rcit7, what do you mean by 'can not use behind proxy'? do you want to setup your own proxy ? or you mean that someone else has installed proxy on server and your machine is behind this proxy and you can not use it?
[13:43] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, you may wish to look into the things I mentioned then
[13:43] <ulidtko|work> hey all. How can it be that the libc-bin package is Essential and yet it conflicts with itself?
[13:44] <Wiz_KeeD> i am, i was just responding to Abhijit
[13:44] <ulidtko|work> % aptitude show libc-bin | grep Conflicts
[13:44] <ulidtko|work> Conflicts: libc-bin
[13:44] <Abhijit> O.o
[13:44] <ulidtko|work> and the package manager now wants to remove half of my system. Wtf?
[13:44] <m0n2t3rcit7> @ Abhijit some one else has set up proxy and am behind it
[13:44] <bazhang> ulidtko|work, what version of ubuntu is this
[13:45] <Abhijit> Wiz_KeeD, yes then the link  i given you is one simpe way of backing up. Deja dup is another software solution which comes with encryption support.
[13:45] <trowar> 有人能讲中文咩
[13:45] <ulidtko|work> bazhang: i've just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10
[13:45] <bazhang> trowar, english here #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[13:45] <ulidtko|work> so this should be 11.10, oneiric
[13:45] <vincentwong> hello
[13:45] <Abhijit> m0n2t3rcit7, then you need to contact the system administrator and request him to allow you the permission and give you the required support for access. first try that.
[13:45] <trowar> OH
[13:46] <trowar> where is chinese
[13:46] <bazhang> trowar, /join #ubuntu-cn
[13:46] <vincentwong> hello
[13:46] <Abhijit> hi vincentwong
[13:46] <Silverlion> !cn | trowar
[13:46] <trowar> i need study english and ubuntu
[13:46] <NyLes> how to backup xorg.conf?
[13:46] <Chipzzz> trowar: 和一些不能
[13:46] <trowar> thank you man
[13:46] <m0n2t3rcit7> sorry Ben64 for pm
[13:47] <bazhang> trowar, ##english to study english, this is ubuntu support
[13:47] <Orsb> jatt:/dev/sda1            2048    41945087    20971520   27  Hidden NTFS WinRE
[13:47] <Orsb> /dev/sda2   *    41945088    42149887      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[13:47] <subthalamus> ubottu: help
[13:47] <Orsb> /dev/sda3        42149888    82144028    19997070+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[13:47] <Orsb> /dev/sda4        82145278   488396799   203125761    5  Kiterjesztett
[13:47] <Orsb> /dev/sda5        82145280    83120127      487424   83  Linux
[13:47] <FloodBot1> Orsb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:47] <Orsb> /dev/sda6        83122176    94838783     5858304   83  Linux
[13:47] <bazhang> subthalamus, with what
[13:47] <NyLes> how to backup xorg.conf?
[13:47] <subthalamus> ubottu: what can you do?
[13:47] <bazhang> subthalamus, ask helpers, not the bot
[13:47] <Orsb> jatt: i did not mean to post the result, but what shall i look for?
[13:47] <subthalamus> ok
[13:48] <Abhijit> NyLes, with cp?
[13:48] <subthalamus> helpers: what can the ubottu do?
[13:48] <bazhang> subthalamus, what is your real question as relates to ubuntu support
[13:48] <m0n2t3rcit7> Abhijit: its a public network, so it is not possible
[13:48] <NyLes> Abhijit: what do you mean cp? sorry im new in ubuntu
[13:48] <vincentwong> where to download more ubuntu theme ?
[13:48] <subthalamus> bazhang: I dont have one
[13:49] <bazhang> !themes | vincentwong
[13:49] <Abhijit> NyLes, in terminal do man cp
[13:49] <tado> hey. thunderbird shows my mails with AM/PM clock instead of 24h clock. the system is set on 24h clock. how can i fix it?
[13:49] <ulidtko|work> so can anybody help me with the package manager?
[13:49] <subthalamus> bazhang: I'd like to know the list of ubottu functions
[13:49] <vincentwong> thank you
[13:49] <bazhang> !factoids > subthalamus
[13:49] <Abhijit> NyLes, cp /pathtoxorg/xorg.conf /pathtobackuplocatin/xorg.conf
[13:49] <subthalamus> !factoids
[13:49] <Orsb> jatt: the result is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/851387/
[13:50] <Abhijit> NyLes, http://aikiwolfie.blogspot.in/2009/09/ubuntu-tip-simple-backup-command-using.html
[13:50] <subthalamus> bazhang: thanks
[13:50] <loganrun> does anyone know if it is possible to fix the unity window manager so that I can drag a window that is maximized and does not have focus?
[13:50] <NyLes> Abhijit: thanks so much..
[13:50] <cheako911> Hello, aufs kernel module missing?  Precise/2.3.0
[13:51] <Abhijit> NyLes, welcome.
[13:51] <bazhang> cheako911, precise help in #ubuntu+1
[13:51] <cheako911> bazhang: thx.
[13:51] <Wiz_KeeD> are you guys certain this is a good guide?
[13:51] <Wiz_KeeD> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[13:51] <loganrun> it doesn't make sense that just because the window is maximized it breaks the ability to drag it using the title bart
[13:51] <loganrun> bar
[13:52] <Silverlion> Wiz_KeeD: why shouldn't it?
[13:52] <loganrun> I guess the problem comes from the fact that the title bar disappears when it doesn't have focus and is maximized
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> looks rather complicated, i don't want to venture into things that are over my head :)
[13:52] <blackarchan_> oke so i installed nautilus-actions 3.1.5 from source and i installed nautilus-actions-extras but when i run nautilus-actions-config-tool i don`t see the extras why?? i tried with gksu and same deal
[13:52] <doherty> I have a cronjob that I need to run
[13:53] <Silverlion> Wiz_KeeD: why dont you write a draft how it could be easier? ;)
[13:53] <Orsb> bazhang: I do not think so, the result of my sudo fdisk -l is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/851387/
[13:53] <Abhijit> doherty, and at what point actually you are having issues?
[13:53] <doherty> When during boot do @reboot cronjobs execute?
[13:53] <doherty> Abhijit: sorry, I just hit enter too soon :)
[13:53] <Abhijit> :-(
[13:54] <NyLes> OMG? is it possible that i don't have an existing xorg.conf? its a fresh install, just finished installing 10minutes ago..
[13:54] <subthalamus> NyLes: believe so
[13:55] <doherty> NyLes: Yes, that's possible. xorg.conf is deprecated, at least in ubuntu
[13:55] <Abhijit> !x | NyLes
[13:55] <doherty> I have an @reboot cronjob that I need to run after networking is up. Should I just make a wrapper that sleeps for 30s before running the real job, or...?
[13:55] <NyLes> Abhijit: thanks..
[13:56] <jrib> doherty: you should probably just turn it into an upstart script and forget about cron
[13:56] <doherty> In reality, it could run when a user logs in, except it needs to run as root.
[13:56] <Abhijit> NyLes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[13:56] <jrib> !upstart > doherty
[13:56] <doherty> arrrrrgh, but I dun wanna D:
[13:56] <jrib> doherty: but it's the exactly what upstart scripts are meant to do D:
[13:56] <subthalamus> NyLes: y do u ask? not displaying right?
[13:56] <doherty> jrib: okay -_-
[13:57] <jrib> doherty: i guess if you really don't want to, a kludgy solution would be to sleep 30 seconds as you said, check if networking is up, if not sleep some more, until it is up
[13:57] <subthalamus> !poll full disk encryption
[13:57] <NyLes> subthalamus: im trying to fix the black screen ^^
[13:57] <bazhang> subthalamus, /msg ubottu please
[13:58] <blackarchan_> ons-config-tool i don`t see the extras why?? i tried with gksu and same deal
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[13:58] <FloodBot1> blackarchan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:58] <subthalamus> NyLes: k, what does the x log say?
[13:59] <husien> hello guys.. i'm trying to intall ubuntu server 11.10 into my VmWare workstation8.
[13:59] <husien> and i got tis --->> Warning :file:///cdrom/pool/main/v/vim/vim-tiny_7.3.154+hg~74503f6ee649-2ubuntu3_i386.deb was corrupt
[14:00] <subthalamus> NyLes: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:00] <husien> Warning :couldn't download package vim-tiny (ver 2:7.3.154 +hg~74503f6ee649-2ubuntu3 arc i386
[14:00] <PAPA_> #husien it myt be the iso
[14:00] <subthalamus> bazhang: doh
[14:00] <NyLes> subthalamus: ok wait..
[14:00] <PAPA_> prob
[14:00] <blackarchan> anyone can help me with nautilus-actions and nautilus-actions-extras?
[14:01] <husien> i downloaded the iso from ubuntu official web..
[14:02] <satrionics> hi. does anyone know how to set up a local debian mirror using rsync?
[14:02] <bazhang> satrionics, #debian for debian help
[14:02] <sipior> satrionics: is apt-mirror not what you want?
[14:03] <satrionics> thanks bazhang, i have already asked in there, just waiting for a reply
[14:03] <satrionics> i want to be able to synchronize the mirror with the debian mirror so i have the latest packages
[14:03] <satrionics> can i do that with debmirror or apt-mirror?
[14:04] <sipior> satrionics: yep.
[14:04] <satrionics> oh kool, do you know how to do it? or does it do it automatically?
[14:04] <husien> ????
[14:04] <satrionics> do i just rerun the debmirror command i used before?
[14:05] <sipior> satrionics: it's not quite automatic, but it's pretty simple. for example: http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror
[14:05] <NyLes__> subthalamus: im sorry i don't know what do you need in the log so here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/851396/
[14:05] <satrionics> thanks sipior, il take a look :)
[14:06] <NyLes__> subthalamus: im using Lubuntu 10.04  by the way i can't seem to find help in #lubuntu channel, it seems they are all away..
[14:06] <recharge> #!/bin/bash
[14:06] <recharge> #This shell script will help you to install the alsa driver
[14:06] <recharge> PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:~/bin
[14:06] <recharge> export PATH
[14:06] <FloodBot1> recharge: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:06] <recharge> oh sorry
[14:06] <blackarchan> so no one can help me with nautilus-actions & -extras???
[14:07] <subthalamus> NyLes: k, lshw -C video
[14:07] <NyLes__> the bots here are so smart lol
[14:07] <_marko> hi, i need some help with my ubuntu 10.04 desktop. I'm newbie.
[14:07] <Abhijit> _marko, ask
[14:07] <n2diy> My landlord switched ISPs on me, and the new service seems really slow, who can I check my bandwidth?
[14:08] <subthalamus> n2diy: speedtest.net or speed.io
[14:08] <NyLes__> subthalamus: i will use pastebin again to show you the result
[14:08] <n2diy> subthalamus, thanks.
[14:08] <_marko> I connected my laptop to videobeam and resolution in my desktop changed. So when I disconnected, the order of topleft buttons changed. Now buttons are located different. How can I restore original position of buttons?
[14:09] <subthalamus> n2diy: u got it
[14:09] <husien> i just finish redownload the ubuntu server 11.10 and burn the iso with 3 diffrent software. still got the same problem.. ermmmmm...
[14:09] <husien> --->> Warning :file:///cdrom/pool/main/v/vim/vim-tiny_7.3.154+hg~74503f6ee649-2ubuntu3_i386.deb was corrupt
[14:10] <NyLes__> subthalamus: here it is, you're the first one to instruct me with this commands i hope this one works.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/851399/
[14:10] <Abhijit> _marko, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/config-desktop/C/window-button-order.html
[14:10] <subthalamus> NyLes: hmm, thats an old video card if I'm not mistaken
[14:11] <subthalamus> NyLes: what video driver are u trying to use?
[14:11] <NyLes__> subthalamus: yeah too old :( is there a way to make this work?
[14:11] <subthalamus> NyLes: always a way, but hope u dont want fancy graphics and video games
[14:11] <NyLes__> subthalamus: i don't know what to use :( i don't know what will work..
[14:11] <NyLes__> subthalamus: yeah im not into gaming anyways :)
[14:12] <recharge> vad betyder detta?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/851401/
[14:12] <NyLes__> subthalamus: i've tried nvidia-96 but still black screen..
[14:12] <bazhang> !se | recharge
[14:12] <subthalamus> NyLes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1646166
[14:12] <subthalamus> NyLes: u'r not the only one heh
[14:12] <MuraliUtd> Any official driver release for HD6870 ???
[14:13] <NyLes__> subthalamus: i've already tried that link but it doesn't work -_-
[14:13] <_marko> Abhijit: that's not the problem I have. I am talking about default buttons at top menu bar: date/time, sound status, off button. They change their position and desktop doesn't let me move'em
[14:13] <subthalamus> NyLes: which link?
[14:13] <NyLes__> subthalamus: the one you just gave me..
[14:13] <Orsb> Hi there, I keep receiving a message that I have less than 200 MB on my file system. When I checked it, my 40 GB is almost full, but my hard disk is over 250 GB. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/851387/ (I am running Ubuntu 11.11 and W7)
[14:14] <tjadc> Hi, I am using Unity with dual monitors (extended desktop) and wondering if it is expected behaviour that both screens get a launcher, apart from that, I get resistance when moving my mouse cursor from one screen to the other
[14:14] <subthalamus> NyLes: oh, u cant even load the forum thread?
[14:14] <kubanc> is here anyone who can help me with installing JBOD on ubuntu?
[14:14] <subthalamus> NyLes: standby
[14:15] <NyLes__> subthalamus: I mean, I already tried the instructions given there..
[14:15] <NyLes__> subthalamus: i hope this information help you, my video card runs fine with Puppy Linux.. Lucid 5.2.5 to be specific..
[14:15] <sukima> How do you encrypt your home folder after a wubi install? I never saw an option during the install.
[14:15] <subthalamus> NyLes: oh, yea, i didnt even look at those
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[14:16] <subthalamus> NyLes: pretty sure this is the driver to use http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/35554
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[14:16] <FloodBot1> masterbater: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:16] <subthalamus> NyLes: have u ever compiled nv drivers?
[14:17] <m0n2t3rcit7> ubottu: How do I increase my wubi install hard disk space?
[14:17] <NyLes> subthalamus: nope, hahaha i don't even know its possible..
[14:17] <subthalamus> NyLes: run that file as root and it walks u through it
[14:17] <thevaliantx> i wonder if his username meant that he was an avid fisherman who happens to be a professional at inserting hooks into worms?
[14:18] <NyLes> subthalamus: the one in Geforce link? ok copy..
[14:18] <m0n2t3rcit7> subthalamus: how do I increase the  space available for my wubi install from 30 Gb to sth like 60 gb
[14:19] <NetRunnerBlack> Okay guys I have a weird one for you. Anytime I move my mouse all the way to the top left hand side of my screen, my PC behaves as though I just clicked the workspace switcher.
[14:19] <bazhang> m0n2t3rcit7, checked the wubiguide on that yet?
[14:19] <subthalamus> m0n2t3rcit7: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=545519
[14:19] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide  m0n2t3rcit7
[14:20] <NyLes> subthalamus: another thing sir, in windows, i had conflicts with latest driver for my card..
[14:21] <subthalamus> NyLes: make sure other drivers are removed, typically, that .run takes care of that for u though
[14:21] <NyLes> subthalamus: can you look at this link if this is the right thing to do? http://blog.martinsladek.com/2010/07/linux-nvidia-legacy-geforce2-96.html
[14:22] <m0n2t3rcit7> bazhang: subthalamus thanks guys, I am only a n00b but I love the irc already
[14:22] <delac> Flashplayers preferences are not shown in the System->Preferences/Administration nor is Firefox able to clear the flashcookies. How to fix?
[14:22] <subthalamus> NyLes: yup, looks perfect
[14:23] <subthalamus> m0n2t3rcit7: cheers
[14:23] <afd> hi guys
[14:23] <NyLes> subthalamus: thanks so much..
[14:23] <kubanc> Is it possible to have JBOD on ubuntu?
[14:23] <subthalamus> NyLes: sure thing
[14:23] <sipior> kubanc: yes, of course.
[14:24] <NetRunnerBlack> Has anyone heard of a problem like that before?
[14:24] <m0n2t3rcit7> subthalamus: cheers mate
[14:24] <kubanc> sipior, is there any tutorial how to set it up?
[14:24] <nze> how can i tell autoconf where to look for macros?
[14:24] <subthalamus> NyLes: notice the line at the end about alternatively
[14:24] <subthalamus> NyLes: thats where i was steering u
[14:24] <sipior> kubanc: well, there's not much to set up. you have an HBA that exports individual LUNs?
[14:24] <NyLes> subthalamus: oh ok sir.. im now in the process ^^
[14:25] <afd> I'm struggling to ssh in to a server I have successfully used before. Last time I had a problem I think I needed to clear some ssh keys... is it safe to clear out /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key and the two .pub files too?
[14:25] <subthalamus> NyLes: good luck
[14:25] <sipior> kubanc: most modern cards support exporting all drives as a jbod directly.
[14:26] <kubanc> sipior, i cannot create a JBOD with disks that are connected with IDE cable?
[14:26] <NyLes> subthalamus: i tried this apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau remove xserver-xorg-video-all and it says Couldn't find package remove?
[14:27] <sipior> kubanc: jbod generally implies that each drive is accessed directly and independently, which would be the default for such an arrangement. did you perhaps mean something else?
[14:27] <geekbri> For some reason when i set my JAVA_HOME in .bashrc and then log out and then in again, it is not being set..  Anybody have any idea why that might be happening?
[14:27] <sipior> kubanc: perhaps you mean a span?
[14:27] <NyLes> subthalamus: i tried this apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau remove xserver-xorg-video-all and it says E: Couldn't find package remove?
[14:28] <subthalamus> NyLes: hmm, mine's got it
[14:28] <NyLes> subthalamus: :( how it happened?
[14:28] <jrib> geekbri: how did you set it?  How are you determining it's not being set?  Why are you using .bashrc?
[14:28] <uKi`> how do I disable wget function for my ubuntu users??
[14:29] <geekbri> jrib: It's being set for one user and not the other (other users home DIR is non standard).  I set it by adding JAVA_HOME=$( dirname $( dirname $( readlink -e /usr/bin/java ) ) ) to my .bashrc.
[14:29] <jrib> geekbri: How are you determining it's not being set?  Why are you using .bashrc?
[14:29] <kubanc> sipior, NO, i would like to connect hard drives with IDE cable to motherboard (i have an old computer), then i would like to put all the disks into JBOD, so the operating system will see all the disks as one partition...
[14:29] <subthalamus> NyLes:do u see it when "apt-cache search xorg | grep video"
[14:29] <geekbri> jrib: I'm doing echo $JAVA_HOME.  I'm using .bashrc because thats where I thought you put env variables you wanted set for a user
[14:29] <subthalamus> ?
[14:29] <Gnea> uKi`: apt-get remove wget
[14:30] <sipior> kubanc: yes, a span :-) have a look for tutorials involving LVM.
[14:30] <kubanc> sipior, so span equals JBOD?
[14:30] <NyLes> subthalamus: yes sir..
[14:30] <subthalamus> NyLes: initial guess is fat finger but if you're copy and pasting...
[14:31] <subthalamus> are you running the purge at su?
[14:31] <jrib> geekbri: I'd suggest using ~/.profile ; .bashrc will get sourced for every interactive bash instance.  Anyway, see if it works ok when you use .profile
[14:31] <subthalamus> at=as
[14:31] <NyLes> subthalamus: copy paste? fat finger?
[14:31] <sipior> kubanc: not exactly. jbod is used to describe at least two different arrangements.
[14:31] <geekbri> jrib: .profile not .bash_profile?
[14:31] <NyLes> subthalamus: i didn't copy paste anything
[14:31] <jrib> geekbri: correct, .profile
[14:31] <subthalamus> NyLes: is it possible u typoed?
[14:31] <sipior> kubanc: have a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-RAID_drive_architectures
[14:31] <NyLes> subthalamus: yeah su is for root right?
[14:31] <geekbri> jrib: i'll give it as shot.  What is the difference between .profile, .bash_profile and .bashrc
[14:31] <bazhang> NyLes, no dont use su
[14:32] <bazhang> NyLes, sudo
[14:32] <sipior> kubanc: might also be of use: http://www.davelachapelle.ca/guides/ubuntu-lvm-guide/
[14:32] <subthalamus> NyLes: sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau remove xserver-xorg-video-all
[14:32] <kubanc> sipior, already looking at it, looks like a good article to read :D
[14:32] <NyLes> subthalamus: bazhang still the same, i will reboot I remembered i copy pasted the nvidia driver lol..
[14:32] <subthalamus> NyLes: i'm an idiot, not paying attention sorry
[14:33] <subthalamus> NyLes: u either purge or remove not both
[14:33] <subthalamus> NyLes: notice it says it can't find the package "remove"
[14:33] <geekbri> jrib: I set it in .profile and when i do 'sudo -i -u <user>' $JAVA_HOME still is not set.  however if after sudo'ing as them i do 'source .profile' it works fine.
[14:33] <NyLes> subthalamus: so i will remove purge?
[14:34] <subthalamus> sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau remove xserver-xorg-video-all
[14:34] <MikeH> Hi guys. I'm currently on Lucid and want to go precise. I'm told that changing the apt sources and doing dist-upgrade is a bad idea
[14:34] <jrib> geekbri: basically (if you want technical details I must push you to « man bash >) .bash_profile and .profile will get sourced once and be part of your environment even when you aren't in a shell when you log into your desktop environment; .bashrc gets sourced every time you open a up a new shell
[14:35] <subthalamus> did those commands come from the link u sent me?
[14:35] <doherty> I can't find the package that contains this command - can you help? http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#init-checkconf
[14:35] <MikeH> What is the best way to transverse versions
[14:35] <OerHeks> MikeH, join #Ubuntu+1 for support for Precise 12.04
[14:35] <subthalamus> NyLes: lemme have another look at that link, i skimmed it too fast apparently
[14:36] <NyLes> subthalamus: still the same result.. :(
[14:36] <subthalamus> NyLes: yea, the blogger didnt check some of his commands
[14:37] <jrib> geekbri: I think with sudo, you have a different issue.  The environment is initialized differently and even sanitized (though I am not sure if this happens when you use -u to act as a regular user, my guess is it does)
[14:37] <subthalamus> NyLes: um, cant be exactly the same result
[14:37] <NyLes> subthalamus: i can only boot with nomodeset option if you must know..
[14:37] <subthalamus> NyLes: oh, u mean after completing all the steps?
[14:37] <sukima> Can you encrypt your home directory after a Wubi install? if so how?
[14:37] <Gnea> subthalamus, NyLes: actually, you can purge and remove at the same time. purge just gets rid of any configs that came with and/or were generated as a result of installing the package, so that really cleans it up.  also, '--purge remove' once, all of the arguments thereafter are packagenames always
[14:38] <jrib> geekbri: if you « man sudo » and peruse the man page by typing /environment<enter>, then use n and N to navigate to next and previous instances of "environment" it may be helpful
[14:38] <Gnea> !info remove
[14:38] <geekbri> jrib: -i is supposed to simulate initial login and -u just sets what user you are logging in as.
[14:38] <NyLes> subthalamus: right after the installation and even installing the OS :( nomodeset is like my savior for anything..
[14:38] <subthalamus> NyLes: keep going to the last step
[14:38] <kubanc> sipior, i also found http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/40702/how-to-manage-and-use-lvm-logical-volume-management-in-ubuntu/ . Thnx for help, i know now what to look for in google (LVM)...
[14:38] <subthalamus> NyLes: using binary driver which is what I had started u on
[14:38] <sipior> kubanc: yep, have fun.
[14:39] <NyLes> subthalamus: does nomodeset has something to do with the --purge remove not working?
[14:39] <c31r2g> !google cinnamon 1.3
[14:39] <subthalamus> NyLes: unrelated
[14:39] <c31r2g> !info cinnamon
[14:39] <subthalamus> NyLes: man apt-get
[14:39] <geekbri> jrib: if i do a sudo -i -u <user1> whose home directory is /home/user1 then echo $JAVA_HOME is fine.... if i do sudo -i -u <user2> , whose home directory is /var/lib/user2 then i do echo $JAVA_HOME it is blank.  They both are having it set in .profile (I also tried .bashrc)
[14:39] <subthalamus> NyLes: u can remove a package or purge a package
[14:39] <subthalamus> NyLes: not both
[14:40] <Gnea> subthalamus: wrong.
[14:40] <NyLes> subthalamus: woah, i removed the last remove and it worked.
[14:40] <Gnea> subthalamus: apt-get purge  will remove and purge
[14:40] <jrib> geekbri: can you confirm the same behavior without using sudo? i.e. do: « su - USERNAME »
[14:40] <Gnea> subthalamus: I just had the option wrong
[14:40] <NyLes> subthalamus: i just typed apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[14:40] <NyLes> subthalamus: now next step :)
[14:40] <Gnea> NyLes: it's apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[14:40] <geekbri> jrib: sure hold on
[14:41] <subthalamus> thats what I'm saying...
[14:41] <subthalamus> NyLes: sweet, looks like gnea will help u
[14:41] <geekbri> jrib: using su - user2, then echo $JAVA_HOME it is still blank.  I can't help but believe this has something to do with the nonstandard home directory.
[14:41] <Anon_ubuntu> irc best
[14:41] <subthalamus> his blog maybe?
[14:41] <Gnea> well, you said that you can't remove and purge at the same time, and I'm saying that 'purge' purges AND removes, which makes your statement invalid
[14:41] <Gnea> anyway, g2g, good luck
[14:41] <NyLes> Gnea: thanks.. ^^
[14:42] <Anon_ubuntu> how do i install avira antivirus free for linux
[14:42] <bazhang> Anon_ubuntu, from where
[14:42] <jrib> geekbri: set JAVA_HOME to "foobar", does that stick?
[14:42] <NewWorld> Anon_ubuntu:  does it come as a file?
[14:42] <Anon_ubuntu> austria
[14:42] <NyLes> subthalamus: on the next step removing nvidia, it says it is not installed so i will move on to the next step? right?
[14:42] <Anon_ubuntu>  jes it come as a package
[14:42] <subthalamus> NyLes: yup
[14:43] <NewWorld> Anon_ubuntu:  what type of package (check the extension) .deb, .rpm , etc?
[14:43] <Anon_ubuntu> ok wait
[14:43] <geekbri> jrib: yup works fine.
[14:43] <subthalamus> NyLes: no need to do everything over again in my opinion
[14:43] <subthalamus> NyLes: since the binary package does some cleanup for u
[14:43] <deadmund> In gnumeric to enter data into a cell I have to double click it.  Then I press enter and it moves the selection down and I have to double click again to enter data into this new cell.  Is this normal?
[14:44] <subthalamus> NyLes: had not really intended to hang out here this long sorry g2g
[14:44] <subthalamus> NyLes: good luck
[14:44] <Anon_ubuntu> it comes as a pz
[14:45] <Anon_ubuntu> no i mean gz
[14:45] <Lint> deadmund, no
[14:45] <NyLes> OMG subthalamus left..
[14:45] <Lint> Anon_ubuntu, and what's inside?
[14:45] <deadmund> Lint: How do I fix it or change it back to normal?
[14:45] <NyLes> Gnea: still there?
[14:45] <NewWorld> Anon_ubuntu:  OK extract it
[14:45] <OerHeks> Anon_ubuntu, unpack the tar.gz, and see the readme in that archive
[14:45] <Anon_ubuntu> ok wait
[14:45] <Lint> deadmund, #gnumeric on irc.gnome.org
[14:46] <Anon_ubuntu> how to unpack with a special tool or the archive manager in ubuntu
[14:46] <NewWorld> Anon_ubuntu:  with the archive manager
[14:46] <Orsb> Hi there, I keep receiving a message that I have less than 200 MB on my file system. When I checked it, my 40 GB is almost full, but my hard disk is over 250 GB. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/851387/ (I am running Ubuntu 11.11 and W7) Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[14:46] <Lint> Anon_ubuntu, doesn;t matter
[14:46] <jrib> geekbri: how did you create this user?
[14:46] <Anon_ubuntu> ok
[14:46] <Anon_ubuntu> inside is bin and so
[14:46] <Anon_ubuntu> other stuff
[14:46] <NewWorld> Orsb:  In terminal run df and see if you actually have enough space on that partition
[14:47] <Anon_ubuntu> i don't know how to install
[14:47] <NewWorld> Orsb:  oh you did nvm
[14:47] <Anon_ubuntu> i am new at ubuntu
[14:47] <jrib> geekbri: (my guess: path is not set to include the directories where dirname and readlink reside)
[14:47] <geekbri> jrib: useradd -m -d /var/lib/user1 -s /bin/bash
[14:48] <Orsb> NewWorld: I am sure that I have enough space on my hard disk, but how can i use it?
[14:48] <geekbri> jrib: I can paste the $PATH here if youd like.
[14:48] <NewWorld> Orsb:  How much space should you have, if not >200MB?
[14:48] <jrib> geekbri: right, using useradd means the user probably doesn't have a "complete" path (i.e. it's not the same as a user created with adduser because the files from /etc/skel aren't copied over)
[14:49] <NewWorld> Orsb:  Run df to find this out
[14:49] <jrib> geekbri: iirc
[14:49] <lucidguy> Unstable Ubuntu server.  Running 11.10 server mainly using KVM with a single vm for now.  I've done memory tests, replaced powersupply and system continues to randomly crash.  Sometimes it seems to be only the vm, but typically the entire system crashes.  Nothing in logs I can find.. local terminal displays nothing.  I even have remote dmesg session and still nothing specific.  On one occasion it noted KVM caused it.  Suggestions?
[14:49] <Orsb> NewWorld: here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/851438/
[14:49] <jrib> geekbri: but sure, y ou can paste the user's path
[14:49] <ikonia> lucidguy: you'll need to define "crash"
[14:49] <geekbri> jrib: I see.. thats unfortunate.  I actually think this particular user was created via a chef recipe so I will have to see what provider they used... I don't believe I created this one manually
[14:49] <geekbri> jrib: /var/lib/jenkins/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290@bigdata/bin:/var/lib/jenkins/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290@global/bin:/var/lib/jenkins/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.2-p290/bin:/var/lib/jenkins/.rvm/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
[14:50] <jrib> geekbri: actually that seems ok
[14:50] <compdoc> lucidguy, I have several servers running ubuntu and qemu-kvm, so its not the OS
[14:50] <geekbri> jrib: yeah, I looked at it and saw all the usual customers near the end so I thought the same.
[14:50] <ikonia> compdoc: you can't say that as configs can vary
[14:50] <lucidguy> ikonia: crash .. as in nothing on screen... no response.
[14:50] <jrib> geekbri: at least /usr/bin and /bin are in there.  Just to check, can you change "dirname" in your command and "readlink" to their full paths?
[14:51] <ikonia> lucidguy: ok, I'll rephrase, are you saying the whole machine physcially locks and responds to no input ?
[14:51] <lucidguy> compdoc: It still can be qemu-kvm...  just in my setup for some reason.
[14:51] <NewWorld> Orsb:  So how much space are you supposed to have if not <200MB?
[14:51] <geekbri> jrib: Well I had tried setting it with a hardcoded path instead of using dirname and readlink and that didn't work either.
[14:51] <lucidguy> ikonia: thats correct.
[14:51] <ikonia> lucidguy: ok - next time this happens here are the things to check to get some idea of what's going on
[14:52] <gmag> hello, I'm not a fan of unity or Gnome3, so I'm thinking of installing Xubuntu. Are there any huge differences between Ubuntu and Xubuntu? I mean, besides the graphical environment.
[14:52] <ikonia> lucidguy: 1.) can you ping the "host" on the network from another machine 2.) plug a keyboard into the host, press the capslock key, does the light go on/off
[14:52] <compdoc> lucidguy, doubtful, unless youre doing something like card or usb pass-thru
[14:52] <ikonia> compdoc: not it's not, people use it in different configurations
[14:53] <ikonia> lucidguy: don't suppose you have the answer to either of those two questions or already ?
[14:53] <Lint> gmag, they use same repository
[14:53] <lucidguy> ikonia: system is down.. no ping.  No local response (capslock)
[14:53] <compdoc> lucidguy, open the disk utility, and look at the smart data for your drives
[14:53] <gmag> Lint, which means I can install everything I can with ubuntu, right?
[14:53] <jrib> geekbri: erm, but "foobar" worked?
[14:54] <lucidguy> compdoc: disk utility?
[14:54] <Lint> gmag, it IS ubuntu with other skin
[14:54] <gmag> ok
[14:54] <gmag> ty
[14:54] <ikonia> lucidguy: ok, so that is a physical hardware lock
[14:54] <geekbri> jrib: not in .bashrc or .profile... just when i was logged into the shell manually
[14:54] <ikonia> lucidguy: (or at least most likley a physical hardware lock), so we just have to work out why not
[14:54] <ikonia> now
[14:54] <jrib> geekbri: oh.
[14:55] <lucidguy> ikonia: In some events I can see the kernel dump on the screen .. but the system is unresponsive.
[14:55] <ikonia> lucidguy: ahh, ok, so we know the kernel is panicing
[14:55] <lucidguy> ikonia: I'm thinking on swaping out the video card..  Nothing left to swap out other then motherboard and CPU.
[14:55] <jrib> geekbri: in .profile put "export JAVA_HOME=/foobar" then check to see that JAVA_HOME gets set when you « su - USERNAME »
[14:55] <ikonia> lucidguy: can I ask how you tested ram ?
[14:56] <lucidguy> ikonia: again .. rarely I can see this info
[14:56] <lucidguy> ikonia: memtest ... grub boot menu.
[14:56] <ikonia> lucidguy: how long did you leave memtest running for ?
[14:56] <geekbri> jrib: does not get set.
[14:56] <lucidguy> ikonia: about 12 hours
[14:56] <ikonia> lucidguy: ok, so a reasonable ammount of time
[14:56] <ikonia> lucidguy: I'm assuming there was no errors in the passes
[14:57] <lucidguy> BTW i've also enable netconsole. .. so I can try to capture dmesg dumps...  I once noticed it panic about KVM.
[14:57] <lucidguy> ikonia: Correct.
[14:57] <ikonia> lucidguy: do you ever see the kernel panic on the host, or just the guests ?
[14:57] <jrib> geekbri: what does « getent passwd USERNAME » return?
[14:57] <Hamed> i have ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop and connect to Internet by wifi and have computer win7 connect to internet by cable how can i make a workgroup (network) between them please give me easy instructions or easy essay talking about that
[14:57] <ESphynx> guys, I get this error trying to build my 32 bit package on 64 bit architecture... pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy depends on ia32-libs; however: Package ia32-libs is not installed.
[14:57] <ESphynx> what's it about?
[14:57] <lucidguy> ikonia: Typically the host .. there is only one vm guest.
[14:57] <ikonia> lucidguy: thats good, it's better that it's on the host, easier to pinpoint
[14:58] <lucidguy> ikonia: Today I did notice the guest was offline .. cleanily.
[14:58] <ikonia> lucidguy: netdump and try to get the kernel dump would be a useful set of info
[14:58] <Orsb> NewWorld: It seems that I do not have the problem any more. In the morning it kept popping up and i wanted to fix it. However, perhaps the reboot has fixed the problem. I'll be back if the problem comes back. Thanks
[14:58] <NewWorld> great
[14:59] <geekbri> jrib: jenkins:x:1001:1001:Jenkins user:/var/lib/jenkins:/bin/bash
[14:59] <justin______> hi whats the name of the default desktop environment in fedora, i want it for ubuntu
[14:59] <jrib> geekbri: I'm going to try adding a user here...
[14:59] <onto> Hi, how do I install manuals? I have the man command but no database?! They used to work but now it says no manual entry found for all commands?
[15:00] <lucidguy> ikonia: I have netconsole running .. I'm guessing netdump is even better.
[15:00] <ikonia>  lucidguy never used net console, but I know netdump gives good results
[15:00] <geekbri> jrib: cool.  I didn't do much other than install open jdk, then add the user
[15:00] <OerHeks> justin______, that could be gnome3 or kde
[15:01] <justin______> gnome 3 thanks
[15:01] <geekbri> jrib: I've never logged into the user externally but the user won't have anybody log in from the outside so even if that was the problem that doesn't help me
[15:01] <lucidguy> ikonia: If you had a spare video card . .would you not try and swap it out.  This system is an older (once gaming) system converted into a media server...  wondering if the old AGP graphics card is acting up and not ideal for a server OS.
[15:01] <jrib> geekbri: useradd seems to copy /etc/skel now, news to me
[15:01] <ikonia> lucidguy: I can't see how the graphics card is "not ideal" for a server
[15:01] <supNow> so this morning I wanted to check out the gnome packages... sudo apt-get install gnome (TAB) kept hitting more and suddenly it started installing a million things. Anyway to undo this?
[15:02] <NewWorld> onto:  dont you have to put them in a specific directory?
[15:02] <onto> NewWorld: put what?
[15:02] <geekbri> jrib: Yeah it looks to me as all the files as there properly... I suspect the issue is that they aren't being loaded properly? I just dont know....
[15:02] <NewWorld> onto:  the man files
[15:02] <jrib> geekbri: maybe I was misremembering and the common issue was just that dash was used instead of bash (but I saw you took care of that)
[15:02] <onto> NewWorld: yes, but ALL of them are missing (or cannot be found)
[15:02] <lucidguy> ikonia: Well, nobody should be using an old nvidia gaming card in a server... in my opinion.
[15:02] <geekbri> jrib: i find it perplexing that my user which i login from the outside with, and who has a home directory in /home has it work fine
[15:03] <ikonia> lucidguy: why ?
[15:03] <onto> $ man man
[15:03] <onto> No manual entry for man
[15:03] <onto> See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.
[15:03] <lucidguy> ikonia: drivers ...
[15:03] <NewWorld> onto:  What did you do with them? Reinstalling said programs will replace the man files
[15:03] <ikonia> lucidguy: just use the vesa drivers with it (if you are using xorg) and you should have zero issues
[15:04] <onto> NewWorld: nothing as far as I'm aware
[15:04] <Hamed> i have ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop and connect to Internet by wifi and have computer win7 connect to internet by cable how can i make a workgroup (network) between them
[15:04] <lucidguy> ikonia: Day one it posts (startsup) with crazy text/font..  unlegible...
[15:04] <ikonia> lucidguy: ok - so that's nothing to do with your OS, that's raw hardware having a problem
[15:04] <gmag> erm... Im trying to find out if I should install a LTS or the lates release. Which should I choose? And based on which criterias?
[15:04] <lucidguy> ikonia: No Xorg either.
[15:04] <ikonia> lucidguy: common sense would be not to use something that has a hardware defect/incompatability like that
[15:05] <NewWorld> gmag:  what is YOUR criteria?
[15:05] <jrib> geekbri: I did the following: sudo useradd -m -d /var/lib/user1 -s /bin/bash user; sudo passwd user1; su - user1; vim .profile # and added "JAVA_HOME=foobar"; exit; su - user1; echo $JAVA_HOME # and "foobar" was returned
[15:05] <lucidguy> ikonia: Its on .. the initial post is crazy text/font .. but then just prior to posting the login prompt its eligable.
[15:05] <gmag> NewWorld, I don't know, I'm trying to understand the pros and cons
[15:05] <lucidguy> on=odd
[15:05] <ikonia> lucidguy: still has a native hardware problem outside of the OS that suggests you should not use it
[15:06] <geekbri> jrib: Strange.  I actually just added into my /etc/profile.d/ a file called java_home.sh and put JAVA_HOME=$( dirname $( dirname $( readlink -e /usr/bin/java ) ) ) in there.  Then I logged in as the user and their JAVA_HOME was fine.
[15:06] <onto> NewWorld: so reinstall all commands?
[15:07] <lucidguy> ikonia: Understood ..   thanks for your time, have to run.  I think I'm going to attempt another ram test to be safe ... swap out that video card .. and enable netdump.  Going to be unhappy if its the motherboard or cpu .. urg.
[15:07] <NewWorld> onto:  Try one and see if you can man it
[15:07] <onto> sure
[15:07] <Michael_Knght> Hi all. I'm trying to install last LTS ubuntu on asus eee pc 1001px netbook by net install. And I get kernel panic on boot. Is it known problem? Is there any workaround? I have no usb sticks.
[15:08] <tetella93> ciao
[15:08] <lucidguy> Once last think .. bad idea to put this video card into an Ubuntu Server..   http://www.leadtek.com/eng/3d_graphic/overview.asp?lineid=1&pronameid=189
[15:08] <onto> NewWorld: nope
[15:08] <compdoc> lucidguy, check for bad caps
[15:09] <NewWorld> onto:  Can you locate the man files with a file browser?
[15:09] <onto> NewWorld: trying the same
[15:09] <NewWorld> onto:  like are they actually there?
[15:09] <lucidguy> compdoc: hmm .. hate to ask but, what are bad caps?
[15:09] <NewWorld> onto:  As in go find their location on the hard disk
[15:10] <compdoc> lucidguy, you just need to look for them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague
[15:10] <onto> NewWorld: nope
[15:10] <compdoc> any caps that are round on top are bad
[15:10] <onto> NewWorld: haha, I understand :)
[15:10] <gaussblurinc> is anyone know a good library for generation of pseudo-prime numbers?
[15:11] <compdoc> lucidguy, or if you can take a decent pic of your mobo, I'll look
[15:11] <BlackAngelPR> Greetings everyone , can some one tell me if there is a guide around to extend the current swap partitions ?
[15:11] <NewWorld> onto:  Is it /usr/share/man that you're looking inside?
[15:11] <lucidguy> compdoc: understood ... they are fine.
[15:11] <lucidguy> have to run ..
[15:11] <compdoc> lucidguy, there are also caps in the PSU, and those often fail in the same way
[15:12] <onto> NewWorld: aha, it's in /usr/share/man? Yeah then they're there
[15:12] <onto> I looked in /usr/local/man
[15:12] <onto> aha, I think I know the problem
[15:12] <ivov> is there any way to retrieve the answers I gave during installation regarding the manual partitioning? I want to use these answers to generate a preseed file
[15:14] <BlackAngelPR> Greetings everyone , can some one tell me if there is a guide around to extend the current swap partitions ?
[15:14] <onto> NewWorld: haha, sorry. I made a stupid mistake. ;)
[15:15] <NewWorld> onto:  what was it? and good that it's fine
[15:15] <geekbri> jrib: This is actually a wildly frustrating problem because I'm using something called buildr to build my java projects, and for some reason even though now JAVA_HOME is being set through profile.d .... when i try to run buildr it doesn't see the JAVA_HOME and i have to tack on JAVA_HOME buildr before each run for it to work properly.  Who knows whats going wrong here!
[15:15] <debsan> BlackAngelPR, just resize it
[15:15] <tetella93> Excuse me.. I don't know whether to download files.. How can I do this?
[15:15] <NewWorld> BlackAngelPR:  Why a guide? Can't you just resize it easily with Gparted?
[15:15] <onto> NewWorld: I redefined MANPATH in .bash_profile but instead of prepending it to MANPATH, I prepended it to PATH. Of course, it couldn't find it.
[15:15] <bazhang> tetella93, download what files
[15:16] <jrib> geekbri: i have no experience with buildr.  Maybe it uses sh?  try « sudo dpkg-reconcfigure dash » and have sh point to bash temporarily just to see if it changes buildr's behavior
[15:16] <debsan> tetella93, don't undestand
[15:17] <trever420> yay... finally got FOG to work in ubuntu server
[15:17] <onto> NewWorld: Thanks for the help though!
[15:17] <NewWorld> np))
[15:17] <debsan> BlackAngelPR, no pm. Ok just install gparted, you want to resize the partition. So unmount it open gparted select sresize option and resize it.
[15:17] <tetella93> debsan, files in general with this program. I have just enrolled
[15:17] <geekbri> jrib: excellent point.. hopefully that is not the case.
[15:17] <debsan> tetella93, this program ?
[15:17] <NewWorld> BlackAngelPR:  Install the program gparted
[15:19] <ivov> can anyone point me towards a working preseed configuration files that actually uses manual configuration?
[15:19] <supNow> ok seems to have calmed down a little in here I'd like to repost my unanswered question
[15:19] <supNow> so this morning I wanted to check out the gnome packages... sudo apt-get install gnome (TAB) kept hitting more and suddenly it started installing a million things. Anyway to undo this?
[15:19] <ikonia> supNow: remove the packages installed, thats the only way
[15:20] <supNow> is there a place I can see recently installed packages?
[15:20] <iceroot> supNow: i dont know if "gnome" is just a metapackge but "sudo apt-get remove --purge && sudo apt-get autoremove" should do the job
[15:20] <ivov>  manual configuration for partitioning ofcourse :-)
[15:20] <iceroot> supNow: i dont know if "gnome" is just a metapackge but "sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome && sudo apt-get autoremove" should do the job
[15:21] <Oer> supNow, softwarecentre > history
[15:21] <ludlow> I'm using halo theme :)
[15:21] <iceroot> supNow: /var/log/apt/term.log
[15:21] <htmangia> ciao
[15:22] <jrib> geekbri: so you are running buildr as jenkins and want JAVA_HOME to be set in jenkins environment so that buildr knows where to find java?  Is that correct?
[15:22] <geekbri> jrib: bingo.  It moans that JAVA_HOME isn't set when i run it (unless of course I append JAVA_HOME=<path> to the command).
[15:23] <geekbri> jrib: it looks like JAVA_HOME is set for the user now, but whatever was preventing it from being set earlier must be stopping it from being set when buildr launches a subshell (or whatevr it is, that it is doing)
[15:23] <jrib> geekbri: how do you initialize the whole process?  I assume you aren't logging in as jenkins?
[15:23] <hidihodihi> Ubuntu offers system disk encryption with the alternate install disc, correct? What is used? LUKS? With what settings? What encryption mode/algorithm? Keysize? Passphrase hash algorithm? Iteration count? (Did i forget anything important?)
[15:23] <geekbri> jrib: well, right now what i'm going is sudo -i -u jenkins (or su - jenkins) and then i'm just changing into the proper directory and running buildr.
[15:24] <jrib> geekbri: try, using "export JAVA_HOME=whatever_it_is" to see if that makes a difference
[15:24] <htmangia> !list!
[15:24] <supNow> iceroot: thanks
[15:24] <tetella93> debsan, I have resolved. thank you!
[15:25] <iceroot> supNow: but its a good idea to read what the command will remove before saying yes
[15:26] <supNow> iceroot: yes I will look through it. It didn't seem to effect my untiy, but gnome doesn't load anything (window borders, nav bars, panels etc etc)
[15:26] <geekbri> jrib: in the profile.d script or on the command line directory?
[15:26] <geekbri> err
[15:26] <geekbri> directly.
[15:27] <jrib> geekbri: either
[15:27] <iceroot> !info gnome oneirc
[15:27] <iceroot> !info gnome oneiric
[15:27] <jrib> geekbri: or maybe "both" for good measure is a better response :P
[15:27] <iceroot> supNow: not a good idea to remove "gnome" when using unity
[15:28] <iceroot> supNow: if i get this gnome and unity thing correctly unity will not run without the package "gnome"
[15:28] <EvilResistance> iceroot, correct.  "Unity" runs off of GNOME3, without GNOME there is no UNITY
[15:28] <EvilResistance> Unity*
[15:30] <EvilResistance> supNow, Unity requires GNOME2/3 depending which release you're on.  You can't have working Unity without GNOME, things explode
[15:30] <savid> Has anyone here successfully installed ubuntu on a mac book pro 8,3 ?    I'm having serious problems.
[15:30] <iceroot> !mac | savid
[15:30] <jrib> !mac | savid
[15:30] <jrib> savid: see if the wiki is any help
[15:30] <savid> iceroot, yeah I've read that.
[15:30]  * jrib is too slow
[15:30] <geekbri> jrib: it blew up at first. then in the profile.d script i changed dirname and readlink to their fullpaths.  I'm guessing when that was getting executed $PATH wasn't set yet.
[15:30] <iceroot> !details | savid
[15:31] <jrib> geekbri: and now it works?
[15:31] <geekbri> jrib: ugh guess not.  I get an error when i run builder "can't create Java VM"
[15:31] <geekbri> jrib: but of course if i set JAVA_HOME before the command it works fine
[15:32] <jrib> geekbri: you used "export"?
[15:32] <geekbri> jrib: yes.
[15:32] <savid> iceroot, I no longer have an osx partition.  Using the ubuntu mac alternate install cd, I didn't install but no icon shows in the boot menu.  I just get a blinking "?"
[15:33] <savid> Sorry, voice transcribing on my tablet here
[15:33] <supNow> thanks iceroot, EvilResistance: I will do some reasearch online to see if I can figure out why gnome isn't loading based upon the log that shows what it randomly installed
[15:33] <jrib> geekbri: but at this point JAVA_HOME is set correctly in your environment, it's just that buildr seems to not care?
[15:33] <savid> I _did_ an install
[15:33] <iceroot> savid: not having an osx partitions sounds good
[15:33] <geekbri> jrib: whats interesting is, i changed it to hardcoded JVM (no dirname and readlink) and now buildr works fine.
[15:33] <savid> iceroot,  yeah, so I thought
[15:34] <iceroot> savid: so your issue is "the alternate cd does not start correctly?"
[15:34] <geekbri> jrib: I think whats happening is somehow buildr is launching a new shell differently and whatever is causing JAVA_HOME not to get set, is having it unset there as well perhaps.  Or maybe whatever was cuasing JAVA_HOME to be unset is causing errors with using dirname and readlink... just not sure.  I'm just going to stick with hardcoding it to /usr/lib/jvm/default-java i guess.
[15:34] <mneptok> savid: does your disk contain a partition for EFI bootloader stuffs?
[15:34] <savid> iceroot,  no, I installed using alternate
[15:35] <savid> mneptok, yes, I kept the original efi partition
[15:36] <mneptok> savid: you might want to esnure the Ubuntu istaller put the UEFI bootstubs where they belong
[15:37] <NyLes> !cp
[15:37] <savid> mneptok,  how do I ensure that
[15:38] <sidney_> how do i open source list in a text editor
[15:38] <mneptok> savid: do an ls of the UEFI FAT32 partition. is an Ubuntu bootstub there?
[15:38] <savid> mneptok, I've booted back into a lived now.   Gparted shows exlamation marks over all partitions
[15:38] <NyLes> waht is GLib?
[15:38] <informatica8> eee
[15:38] <NyLes> !Glib
[15:39] <mneptok> NyLes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glib
[15:40] <mneptok> savid: have you ensured your downloaded disc image is alright with an md5sum?
[15:40] <mneptok> savid: just to be sure
[15:40] <Lint> sidney_, open source what?
[15:40] <savid> mneptok, yes
[15:40] <mneptok> savid: OK, so mount the small UEFI partition and make sure the Ubuntu bootstub is there/
[15:40] <savid> mneptok, when trying to mount, it says special device /dev/sda1 does not exist.
[15:41] <bazhang> sidney_, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:41] <savid> I think the alternate installer screwed up my partition tables.   Ugh.
[15:41] <mneptok> savid: try repartitioning completely during a clean reinstall.
[15:41] <Zerpex> Hi guys, do you know how I can make the default LAMP install in ubuntu, run the files as 'current owner' of the file?
[15:42] <mdgeorge> hello
[15:42] <mneptok> savid: the FAT32 UEFI partition only needs to be ~100MB
[15:42] <mdgeorge> Everytime I click on the automatic update window, gnome-shell crashes
[15:42] <savid> mneptok, OK, so ubuntu will create it's own efi partition if I do that?
[15:42] <mdgeorge> any suggestions?
[15:43] <mneptok> savid: Ubuntu creates no partitions automatically
[15:43] <mneptok> savid: you'll need to tell the installer to create a 100MB partition at the beginning of the disk, format it FAT32, and mount it at /boot/efi
[15:44] <savid> mneptok, hmm..  OK.   Will i
[15:44] <savid> Ugh tabket
[15:45] <ignerious> hello
[15:46] <ignerious> my eclipse is not starting
[15:46] <NyLes> how to delete a file using terminal?
[15:46] <savid> mneptok will the installer then know what to do with that partition?
[15:46] <savid> With regard to the efi "payload"
[15:46] <mneptok> savid: it should, but if it does not, the steps can be done manually after reinstallation.
[15:47] <savid> Ok.   I'll try that. Thanks.
[15:47] <MetalAdamTR> selam
[15:47] <sw0rdfish> LukeNukem!
[15:47] <ignerious> my eclipse is not starting
[15:48] <mneptok> savid: FWIW, i use UEFI on my Thinkpad here. so i have actually done this. i'm not 100% certain that this is your problem, but as far as EFI goes, i have *some* experience.
[15:48] <mneptok> savid: and this will be a 100% Linux laptop?
[15:48] <RawProduce> I'm trying to use SQLite with PHP and have installed the relevant packages - phpinfo() shows an sqlite3 section
[15:48] <ignerious> it is showing its startup screen but then it goes away
[15:49] <savid> mneptok, yes
[15:49] <mneptok> savid: may i PM?
[15:49] <rypervenche> NyLes: rm
[15:49] <RawProduce> yet when I run sqlite_open I get the error "PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined function sqlite_open()"
[15:49] <RawProduce> what's the deal?
[15:49] <NyLes> rypervenche: yeah thanks..
[15:49] <savid> mneptok, yes go ahead
[15:49] <rypervenche> NyLes: Read this, http://www.linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[15:50] <ignerious> my eclipse is not starting
[15:50] <ignerious> it is showing its startup screen but then it goes away
[15:50] <NyLes> rypervenche: thanks man..
[15:50] <ignerious> what should i do
[15:51] <LukeNukem> sw0rdfish, wtf you doin here nigguh
[15:51] <sw0rdfish> lolz
[15:52] <sidney_> to edit or add repositories do i over wright what is there or add to it
[15:52] <bazhang> LukeNukem, watch the language and stay on topic
[15:52] <sw0rdfish> is there a ubuntu community/off-topic channel?
[15:52] <LukeNukem> dang, forgot which channel i was in lol
[15:52] <ikonia> LukeNukem: sw0rdfish language please
[15:52] <ikonia> !guidelines > LukeNukem
[15:52] <ikonia> !guidelines > sw0rdfish
[15:52] <ikonia> sw0rdfish: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:52] <Owner> halp, i was making gay with a girl and i peed inside her, now she wont talk to me
[15:52] <LukeNukem> lolol
[15:53] <bazhang> LukeNukem, thats enough
[15:53] <b91> lol
[15:53] <adrth> in which file should I tune my PATH variable?
[15:53] <sw0rdfish> wow lol whata heck was dat
[15:53] <LukeNukem> ok
[15:53] <ignerious> please help
[15:53] <sw0rdfish> :o ikonia ubottu is being slow, aye?
[15:54] <adrth> I changed /etc/environment, but '
[15:54] <ikonia> sw0rdfish: it had quit, it just rejoined
[15:54] <TesseractB> hi
[15:54] <adrth> I changed /etc/environment, but 'export' says that it hasn't been evaluated
[15:54] <TesseractB> i have a question
[15:54] <adrth> even after I restarted the shell
[15:54] <ignerious> please help
[15:54] <ignerious> please help
[15:54] <sw0rdfish> ikonia, oh ok
[15:54] <ignerious> please help
[15:55] <FloodBot1> ignerious: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:55] <sandra> G'day my fellow Ubuntu inmates
[15:55] <TesseractB> Has anyone accomplished hardware acceleration with ati hd 2400 for mkv and mp4 videos?
[15:56] <adrth> in which channel people go to answer questions?
[15:56] <Lint> ignerious, you may try to rename its profile
[15:56] <zykotic10> TesseractB: does ati support accelerated video now?
[15:56] <adrth> I mean, I could try doing that
[15:56] <TesseractB> zykotic10: of course!
[15:57] <zykotic10> TesseractB: they didn't a little while ago, thus my asking
[15:57] <zykotic10> TesseractB: do you know what it's called?  like nvidia uses vdpau, what's it called for ati?
[15:58] <TesseractB> zykotic10: It is called DXVA
[15:58] <zykotic10> TesseractB: thanks
[15:58] <TesseractB> zykotic10: you are wellcome!
[15:59] <TesseractB> Has anyone accomplished hardware acceleration with ati hd 2400 for mkv and mp4 videos?
[16:00] <zykotic10> TesseractB: DxVA Direct X Video Acceleration (why would AMD/ATI use a MS Windows technology name?)
[16:00] <Zerpex> hmm, my suexec isn't working.. it doesn't run the php files as their 'owner' it runs them as www-data
[16:00] <TesseractB> zykotic10: yes, sorry
[16:01] <TesseractB> zykotic10: i forgot the linux name!
[16:01] <zykotic10> TesseractB: that appears to be the gnu/linux name
[16:01] <gr33n7007h> just bought an alienware m11x with nvidia 540m graphics installed ubuntu 10.04 download nvidia driver binary but won't let you run the binery in X how do get to text only mode??
[16:02] <micutu> any roumanian here?:|
[16:02] <TesseractB> zykotic10: in linux called VAAPı, i think
[16:02] <TesseractB> *VAAPI
[16:02] <gr33n7007h> ctrl + Alt + F1 is not working for some strange reason
[16:02] <zykotic10> gr33n7007h: manually installing nvidia.com's driver is a bad idea (but "might" be required) - ctrl+alt+f1 then "sudo service gdm stop"
[16:03] <zykotic10> TesseractB: updating search terms ;)
[16:03] <gr33n7007h> zykotic10, is there any other way than Ctrl +alt +f1 ?
[16:03] <micutu> can anyone help me? i have a problem booting from xubuntu10.10 cd
[16:04] <micutu> it is bootable but does not working
[16:04] <zykotic10> gr33n7007h: if you just ran "sudo service gdm stop" from the gui it will stop and spit you out at a VT (ctrl+alt+f1) - but if that doesn't work, you've got a problem
[16:04] <TesseractB> Has anyone accomplished hardware acceleration with ati hd 2400 for mkv and mp4 videos?
[16:04] <shade34331> is it possible when installing ubuntu you use NIS for login instead of making an account?
[16:04] <gr33n7007h> zykotic10, ok ill try now thanks! ;)
[16:04] <ikonia> shade34331: sure
[16:05] <ikonia> shade34331: there is (I think) a network login button when you have to create an account
[16:05] <ikonia> shade34331: I think you have to create one local admin account though to finish the install
[16:05] <kubanc> any idea what is error kernel_thread_helper+0x6 0x10
[16:05] <shade34331> ikonia: hey:), ok
[16:05] <Yaah> jru
[16:05] <Yaah> hey I have a question where can I download AIM for linux other then pidgin
[16:06] <micutu> ubuntu sofware download yaah
[16:06] <gr33n7007h> zykotic10, unrecognized service ?
[16:06] <Yaah> ?
[16:06] <zykotic10> gr33n7007h: you did say 10.04 right?
[16:06] <saquib> h
[16:06] <gr33n7007h> zykotic10, 1 sec i'll just check
[16:07] <zykotic10> gr33n7007h: "lsb_release -a" if you aren't sure
[16:07] <shaneo> any google chrome ubuntu 11.10 unity 5.0 users in here
[16:07] <viktor> Yaah: search in ubuntu download center
[16:07] <mrguser> oi
[16:07] <shaneo> google chrome is leaving blank spots in my launcher and i cant close them
[16:07] <gr33n7007h> zykotic10, Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Release:10.04Codename:lucid
[16:08] <Yaah> where can I download AIM for linux
[16:08] <Yaah> hmm
[16:08] <zykotic10> gr33n7007h: did you install using a mini cd or something?  "sudo service gdm stop" is what you are running?
[16:08] <viktor> Yaah: did you even try searching in ubuntu download center before asking again?
[16:08] <Yaah> yeah all I could get was pidgin which didn't work
[16:09] <gr33n7007h> zykotic10, standard dvd what could be the problem?
[16:09] <viktor> Yaah: two seconds searching gave "kopete" and "empathy" for example. b
[16:09] <viktor> Yaah: also
[16:10] <exarkun> How does one turn off the Unity dash?
[16:10] <shaneo> aim isnt coming to Linux
[16:10] <gr33n7007h> zykotic10, gdm not showing in service --status-all
[16:10] <zykotic10> gr33n7007h: are you using KDE (KDM) perhaps?
[16:10] <sidney_> I want to open my repo source list not in the terminal but a text editor please
[16:10] <Oer> gr33n7007h, 540m optimus ?
[16:10] <gr33n7007h> zykotic10, no gnome
[16:11] <shaneo> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/aim-say-no-to-desktop-linux-client-for-now/
[16:11] <johnny> @Find[#oce@n]
[16:11] <bazhang> sidney_, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:11] <gr33n7007h> Oer, no not optimus
[16:11] <Guest30328> does anyone know where keyrings are stored?
[16:11] <ikonia> shaneo: why are you posting that to me ?
[16:11] <zykotic10> gr33n7007h: sorry i don't know what your issue (with *DM is).  Guess i can't help, Good luck.
[16:12] <gr33n7007h> zykotic10, ok thanks for your help
[16:12] <Guest30328> does anyone know where keyrings are stored?
[16:12] <Guest30328> woops
[16:12] <gr33n7007h> it's giving me a headache !
[16:12] <graingert> sorry about the double post
[16:13] <GNOME-ZZ-TOP> hola
[16:14] <sidney_> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list gave me this error GLib-CRITICAL **: g_str_has_prefix: assertion `str != NULL' failed
[16:14] <bazhang> sidney_, sources.list    with an 's'
[16:15] <Oer> graingert, open bash: seahorse (passwords & keys)
[16:15] <graingert> Oer: I want the directory
[16:16] <Oer> graingert, don't mess with the ~/.gnome2/keyrings you micht lock yourself out
[16:16] <gr33n7007h> got it to work, have to hold down special key for Function keys on alienware, Thanks
[16:17] <graingert> I'm having issues with multiple keyrings being generated
[16:17] <graingert> what permissions should this files have Oer?
[16:17] <sidney_> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is this correct?
[16:17] <Hamed> i have ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop and connect to Internet by wifi and have computer win7 connect to internet by cable how can i make a workgroup (network) between them
[16:17] <sidney_> I still get an error
[16:18] <graingert> Hamed: what do you wish to do with this workgroup? Share files
[16:18] <tomodo> hi
[16:18] <graingert> Samba is fairly complex - it might be easier to use SFTP
[16:18] <bazhang> sidney_, are you using gnome? xfce4? kde4? or what
[16:18] <zykotic10> sidney_: from terminal, do you see the files contents with "cat /etc/apt/source.list"
[16:18] <sidney_> gnome
[16:18] <tomodo> ubuntu has been really good for ages, but today my computer has turned itself off twice in a row.. overheating? could flash be the problem?
[16:19] <bazhang> zykotic10, sources.list is it not?
[16:19] <zykotic10> sidney_: typo on my paste!
[16:19] <ikonia> tomodo: doubtful
[16:19] <zykotic10> bazhang: yes - sorry
[16:19]  * zykotic10 should be more careful with copy/paste
[16:19] <bazhang> sidney_, so cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:20] <tomodo> are there any tutorials on how to debug crashes like this, I'd love to have a more stable system
[16:20] <bazhang> sidney_, ?
[16:20] <rcmaehl> I have a problem
[16:20] <rcmaehl> I have a really old graphics card
[16:20] <bazhang> rcmaehl, with what
[16:21] <sidney_> zykotic10, No such file or directory
[16:21] <sidney_>  with and without the s
[16:21] <bazhang> sidney_, are you using ubuntu ?
[16:21] <rcmaehl> It's an nvidia geforce AGP card
[16:21] <zykotic10> rcmaehl: from terminal "lspci | grep -i vga"
[16:22] <rcmaehl> however if I install nvidia-current-updates and then do nvidia-xconfig it will no longer load X
[16:22] <zykotic10> rcmaehl: nvidia-current is only for the newest nvidia cards
[16:22] <rcmaehl> zykotic10: Its module isn't loaded
[16:23] <bazhang> sidney_, whats the output of lsb_release -a in the terminal
[16:23] <rcmaehl> zykotic10: so which package?
[16:23] <zykotic10> rcmaehl: if it doesn't find any supported hardware (ie an old card) that might make sense
[16:23] <zykotic10> rcmaehl: from terminal "lspci | grep -i vga"
[16:23] <rcmaehl> zykotic10: it doesn't detect it because it's on intergrated graphics right now as it's set to intergrated on the motherboard in the BIOS
[16:24] <zykotic10> rcmaehl: i see.  that does make sense, but ok.  I can't help then.  good luck.
[16:24] <ignerious> my eclipse is not starting
[16:24] <sahil_> how to recover data from an external hdd??
[16:24] <ignerious> it is showing its startup screen but then it goes away
[16:24] <ignerious> please help
[16:25] <rcmaehl> zykotic10: I can open the case and see if the card has the model easily readable real quick. it is an old card so it might now
[16:25] <ignerious> anyone
[16:25] <Lint> in which file I should put the floppy module for authomatic probing?
[16:25] <zykotic10> sahil_: testdisk/photorec or there is a ddrecover (haven't used the latter, but seen it recommened in this channel several times)
[16:25] <bazhang> ignerious, patience
[16:25] <rcmaehl> Lint: /etc/modules I think
[16:25] <EvilResistance> ignerious, you mean the Eclipse IDE?
[16:25] <ignerious> yes
[16:25] <sahil_> okey...so is it available in usc?
[16:25] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello everyone.  I'm looking for any ideas on an odd issue I can't seem to track down.  I've tried running Ubuntu 11.10 on two completely different computers.  One Dell, and one HP.  BOTH of these computers tend to lock up after running nonstop for about a week. But when they lock up, the mouse still moves on the screen. I just can't click anything, nor get any keyboard commands to work. I typically just powercycle the machine to get it working again.
[16:25] <gmannn> #irc.freenode.net
[16:26] <EvilResistance> ignerious, run it from terminal.  open up the terminal, type eclipse (or whatever it is)
[16:26] <gmannn> lol
[16:26] <EvilResistance> !privmsg | ignerious
[16:26] <bazhang> gmannn, you are here already, unless you mean #freenode
[16:26] <gmannn> Is this a channel or a server?
[16:26] <bazhang> gmannn, channel #ubuntu
[16:26] <EvilResistance> ignerious, also, i can read, dont privmsg me directly please
[16:26] <zykotic10> rcmaehl: if lscpi doesn't find it, you have a bigger issue.
[16:26] <gmannn> Ok, how do I get in the lubuntu channel?
[16:26] <EvilResistance> ignerious, run eclipse from terminal, any errors at runtime will be described in terminal
[16:26] <Lint> is there a command for listing all available modules, loaded or not?
[16:26] <rcmaehl> zykotic10: it finds it when it boots from the graphics card just not when I do nvidia-xconfig
[16:27] <t1t4n> i want change my runlevel, i want mount my /home after that i get ip **
[16:27] <bazhang> gmannn, /join #lubuntu
[16:27] <iceroot> !runlevel | t1t4n
[16:27] <ignerious> i have recentely installed many pluguns
[16:27] <gmannn> thanks mate
[16:27] <ignerious> after that restart it happens
[16:28] <EvilResistance> ignerious, it might be the plugins then.  you may want to purge your eclipse folder and start over.
[16:28] <ignerious> but it is important
[16:28] <sahil_> well how to use testdisk?
[16:28] <rcmaehl> zykotic10: nvidia geforce 2 mx
[16:28] <ignerious> what should i do
[16:28] <zykotic10> sahil_: testdisk recovers partitions, photorec recovers files
[16:28] <Lint> ignerious, contact your administrator?
[16:29] <sahil_> zykotic10, how to operate?i dont see it having any gui..so must be cli riight?
[16:29] <kpas_> has anyone been having issue with dropbox and 11.10
[16:29] <kpas_> desktop
[16:29] <ignerious> who is the administrator
[16:29] <zykotic10> sahil_: yes, it's command line only
[16:30] <sahil_> zykotic10, can ya gimme few basic commands? rest i will google it up
[16:30] <t1t4n> ubottu: yes man, but i don't find where networking stay on /etc/rcS.d/
[16:30] <RenatoSilva> what's the best way to make my ntfs partitions automatically mounted on starting in oneiric? is it sudo udisks --mount /dev/sda* the only option?
[16:30] <zykotic10> rcmaehl: from my quick search it appears you need to be using the 96 nvidia driver instead of current
[16:30] <rcmaehl> zykotic10: ok thanks
[16:31] <zykotic10> sahil_: sorry, off the top of my head no.  I haven't had to use it in years.
[16:31] <sahil_> okey nvr mind...
[16:31] <jost> RenatoSilva, how about putting the partitions into your fstab?
[16:31] <zykotic10> rcmaehl: i've personally had a lot of issues getting the 96 driver to work, i hope you have better luck then me.
[16:32] <Supreme> I just installed ubuntu, how do i use it?
[16:32] <shadowh511> Supreme: are you in it now?
[16:32] <ikonia> Supreme: https://help.ubuntu.com
[16:32] <bazhang> !manual | Supreme have a read
[16:32] <RenatoSilva> jost: non-go because mount point should be determined dynamically according the partition label
[16:33] <zykotic10> RenatoSilva: fstab
[16:33] <RenatoSilva> zykotic10: read my last message
[16:34] <zykotic10> RenatoSilva: read my last message ;)  good luck.
[16:34] <MetalAdamTR> selam millet
[16:35] <RenatoSilva> zykotic10: stop being retarded please
[16:35] <bazhang> RenatoSilva, no name calling here
[16:35] <rcmaehl> RenatoSilva: ^
[16:35] <RenatoSilva> bazhang: how to report that to operators then?
[16:35] <MetalAdamTR> bu sayfalardaki menü çubuğunu nasıl aktif hale getiriyoruz
[16:35] <himsin> hello I was installing wine and suddenly this came up ttf-mscorefonts-installer and it wanst me to accept an aggrement but the <ok> is not working. Is there any way to get past it?
[16:35] <Lint> !tr
[16:36] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello everyone.  I'm looking for any ideas on an odd issue I can't seem to track down.  I've tried running Ubuntu 11.10 on two completely different computers.  One Dell, and one HP.  BOTH of these computers tend to lock up after running nonstop for a couple of days. But when they lock up, the mouse still moves on the screen. I just can't click anything, nor get any keyboard commands to work. I typically just powercycle the machine to get it working ag
[16:36] <bazhang> RenatoSilva, we are volunteers, please follow the guidelines and be civil
[16:36] <RenatoSilva> Lint: oh it works without sudo man
[16:36] <zykotic10> himsin: try TAB
[16:36] <rcmaehl> zykotic10: I'm attempting a reboot. If the 96 drivers don't work I'm coming after you. LOL jk jk wish me luck
[16:36] <himsin> zykotic10, thanks it worked :)
[16:36] <RenatoSilva> bazhang: tell that to zykotic10?
[16:37] <bazhang> RenatoSilva, lets move on
[16:37] <RenatoSilva> bazhang: what do you call this: 'read my last message   good luck.'
[16:37] <RenatoSilva> bazhang: if you wanted to move on you would not encourage trolling like that
[16:38] <RenatoSilva> brb
[16:39] <zykotic10> bazhang: i'm sorry for causing ^^^  i still stick to my fstab is best way to mount things on boot advice though
[16:39] <gr33n7007h> zykotic10, how do you fill a flash drive full off random data ??
[16:39] <ikonia> zykotic10: that is the correct way to do it
[16:39] <uictamale> does anyone here know how to get nomachine working with ubuntu 11.10 ?
[16:40] <zykotic10> gr33n7007h: not 100% sure actually, "cat /dev/random > /dev/USBDEVICE" might work?
[16:40] <whoami> @a111 hi
[16:40] <croffe> Hello - I can't use my NIC, BCM57780 on 11.10 64-bit - it is recognized but does not connect.  Where can I find information on using this NIC with Ubuntu?
[16:40] <a111> ?
[16:41] <rcmaehl> back
[16:41] <gr33n7007h> zykotic10, cheers i'll try that way ;)
[16:41] <zykotic10> gr33n7007h: that's just a guess remember, and be careful to get the device correct
[16:42] <gr33n7007h> zykotic10, ok thanks
[16:42] <tomodo> how can I monitor my CPU temperatures and relaetd things?
[16:43] <tomodo> I have system monitor which is great for CPU % and network use, but it doesn't have temperature
[16:43] <jMCg> Hey folks, I'm failing to build the latest qemu-kvm package (deb-src from precise) on oneiric: http://dpaste.com/706381/ -- anyone know a good reason why this is failing -- or the right channel to ask this?
[16:43] <zykotic10> !sensors | tomodo
[16:43] <hylian> is there a way to bring all my plasma widgets to the main desktop, I have some running I want to close, but cannot.
[16:44] <OU818> < zykotick9> OU818: what orange is the best orange? - what do you mean?
[16:44] <zykotic10> OU818: you asked "what ubuntu is the best ubuntu" that was my attempt to show your question didn't make sense (to me)
[16:44] <rcmaehl> tomodo: would you like fan speed control as well?
[16:44] <UrB> good (or any) ideas how to find out whether my bluetooth chip on laptop has gone pining the fjords or are the problems on softaware side
[16:46] <leomary> ciao a tutti
[16:46] <tomodo> rcmaehl: sure I just want to be able to monitor things that might be causing my machine to shut itself down
[16:46] <leomary> !list
[16:46] <zykotic10> !it | leomary
[16:47] <tomodo> is there a simple GUI program?
[16:47] <OU818> zykotic10: manderine, blood, navel?  best orange is the Moro Orange, whats the best ubuntu?
[16:47] <tomodo> like system monitor
[16:48] <zykotic10> OU818: in my opinion (ONLY) 10.04LTS - but MOST would disagree.  Opinions are a personal matter, and when you ask for "best" you get opinions.  See "/msg ubottu best" for the official factoid on the subject ;)
[16:48] <RenatoSilva> Lint: simple solution :) http://i.imgur.com/WqblZ.png
[16:49] <elliotbeken> i agree 10.04 i like / works and easy and still supported
[16:49] <elliotbeken> my servers are 10.04
[16:50] <luxpaparazzi> hello,
[16:50] <hylian> hello luxpaparazzi
[16:50] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello everyone.  I'm looking for any ideas on an odd issue I can't seem to track down.  I've tried running Ubuntu 11.10 on two completely different computers.  One Dell, and one HP.  BOTH of these computers tend to lock up after running nonstop for a couple of days. But when they lock up, the mouse still moves on the screen. I just can't click anything, nor get any keyboard commands to work. I typically just powercycle the machine to get it working ag
[16:50] <delkin> I am running: 'sudo modprobe fuse', but then 'lsmod | grep fuse' returns nothing... What might be wrong?
[16:51] <luxpaparazzi> i actually can't write to my usb disks anymore ... they seem to be mounted read-only, any ideas?
[16:52] <hylian> luxpaparazzi, i had this same problem. I solved it the hard way, i fired up gparted and formatted it. I am sure there is a better way...
[16:53] <buscohombre> hola
[16:53] <zykotic10> !es | buscohombre
[16:54] <luxpaparazzi> hylian, i have the same problem with 3 disks at once :-/
[16:54] <razor85> In ubuntu 10.04, how do you display command output _even_ though it's being written to a file?
[16:54] <superstraw> ls
[16:54] <superstraw> crap
[16:54] <hylian> luxpaparazzi, how strange
[16:55] <luxpaparazzi> razor85: have you tried   "command > file"?
[16:55] <razor85> disregard my question.. it worked out for me
[16:55] <zykotic10> luxpaparazzi: that won't display the output though
[16:56] <luxpaparazzi> apl@apl-Amilo-Desktop-Pi3645A:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdg1 "/media/test" -o rw
[16:56] <luxpaparazzi> mount: warning: /media/test seems to be mounted read-only.
[16:56] <zykotic10> luxpaparazzi: NTFS/FAT paritions require additional parameters to be read/write (ie the -o rw is not sufficient)
[16:57] <leomary> ciao a tutti
[16:57] <leomary> !list
[16:57] <zykotic10> !it | leomary
[16:58] <[snake]> is there a way to play audio in terminal with mplayer without showing the interface while playing it(just getting back to the command line without anymore output from mplayer besides music)
[16:59] <luxpaparazzi> zykotic10 i just checked the man-page, but can't find other options suiting ntfs ...
[16:59] <tomodo> E: Package 'ksensors' has no installation candidate
[17:01] <[snake]> does my question above require any further explaining? because it is hard for me to word.
[17:01] <samu69> !lista
[17:02] <samu69> !lista
[17:02] <trever420> [snake] yes it is possible
[17:02] <trever420> i hink
[17:02] <trever420> think*
[17:02] <tomodo> xsenors has two tabs.. acpitz and coretemp
[17:03] <tomodo> is that right? what should I be looking at?
[17:03] <vergoncam> hola
[17:03] <[snake]> trever420, I tried doing this: (mplayer file.mp3 &) but it continued outputing-- okay what's going on with all the timeouts and stuff?
[17:04] <trever420> netsplit [snake]
[17:04] <[snake]> oh.
[17:05] <cloudgeek> how to autocomplete in openoffice
[17:05] <sacarlson> [snake]: does it have to be mplayer?  just play musicfile.mp3 can be used to play music
[17:05] <sacarlson> [snake]: other option I"m not sure if it's mpris interface for mplayer then there are other options to play with that method
[17:05] <Pikkachu> what's the best way to share configurations among users where each one has write access to change them?
[17:05] <Lint> cloudgeek, Enter key
[17:05] <trever420> sacarlson, thats what i was gonna say
[17:06] <sacarlson> trever420: well don't hold your breath speak up
[17:06] <jonsaint> hi all. i need to make a backup of my dvds because my kids are killing the originals. what can i use?
[17:07] <croffe> Any tips on getting the BCM57780 NIC to work? It registers but does not connect on 11.04 64-bit
[17:07] <tomodo> system monitor shows 4 CPUs, but xsensors only dispalys 2
[17:07] <trever420> jonsaint: handbrake
[17:07] <tomodo> why?
[17:07] <[snake]> sacarlson, no it can be anything... is that the command play? I've never even knew that existed
[17:07] <Oer> jonsaint, brasero, i prefer K3B
[17:07] <dr_willis> k9copy  jonsaint
[17:07] <[snake]> oh
[17:07] <[snake]> nvm
[17:07] <jonsaint> trever420, looked for it in software centre but not thee
[17:07] <trever420> jonsaint it may not be
[17:07] <sacarlson> [snake]: yes play command I think is a part of alsa so should be installed by default
[17:07] <trever420> u may need to download it from handbrake's website
[17:08] <bj0rn2> I've got a usb wifi adapter with chipset Intersil ISL3887 and no luck in getting it to work with ubuntu server 11.10... anyone having success with that or a similar device?
[17:08] <trever420> but you can also use dvdrip (which is in the repos)
[17:08] <trever420> or acidrip
[17:08] <jonsaint> trever420,  you got the web addy?
[17:08] <trever420> jonsaint... nvm it is in the repo
[17:08] <trever420> sudo apt-get install handbrake-gtk
[17:08] <tomodo> E: Unable to locate package sensors-applet
[17:08] <tomodo> why :(
[17:08] <dr_willis> jonsaint:  it also depends on   if you want to rip to file or keep on dvd disk
[17:08] <trever420> tho i dunno how it handles copy protection
[17:08] <prashant> can somebody tell me what linux user id? how one can get it?
[17:09] <trever420> handbrake will let you encode the file to another format to make it smaller to store
[17:09] <doc|work> I come in to work today and get an update notification that the following packages would be from unauthenticated sources: libvorbis0a libvorbisenc2 libvorbisfile3. Anyone know why? Is it related to Independent being the selected sources on the "Other Software" tab?
[17:09] <trever420> otherwise you'll  be storing raw DVD images uncompressed
[17:10] <dr_willis> k9copy can convert to a 4gb dvd iso. decrypting it
[17:10] <trever420> jonsaint: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-dvd-ripper-software.html
[17:10] <Lint> prashant, it's a long-dead census project
[17:10] <sacarlson> prashant: you can look at the file /etc/password to find the user id number but there is probly a command that also provides this info
[17:10] <trever420> apparently VLC can also rip DVDs
[17:11] <trever420> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/2696/how-to-rip-dvds-with-vlc/
[17:11] <jonsaint> trever420, many thanks for that
[17:12] <croffe> Hello - I can't use my NIC, BCM57780 on 11.10 64-bit - it is recognized but does not connect.  Where can I find information on using this NIC with Ubuntu?
[17:12] <trever420> prashant, i think you can use "id -u USERNAME"
[17:13] <gandhijee_> hey, how can i get my ubuntu 11.10 to look like my 10.04 install?
[17:13] <trever420> croffe: is that a wireless card?
[17:13] <gandhijee_> i hate this unity thing, and i am not a fan of the new classic layout.
[17:13] <croffe> it's a wired Broadcom
[17:13] <prashant> sacarlson, no not that one. i mean the linux user id which people mention while posting in various blogs,answers
[17:13] <dr_willis> tweak gnome shell then. or use some other desktop gandhijee_
[17:14] <Lint> I think he means "Linux user # 9001" userbar
[17:14] <Firebolt> gandhijee_, sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[17:14] <prashant> Lint, ya
[17:14] <trever420> croffe: did it work from the ubuntu live CD?
[17:14] <gandhijee_> Firebolt, i think i already have that installed... i can't seem to add/remove gnome panels
[17:14] <[snake]> sacarlson, I do  not have that command. I'm on ubutnu 10.10 x86_64 if that makes a difference
[17:14] <sacarlson> prashant: user id like user name?  all info other than the passwork in in that file of your system
[17:15] <croffe> trever420 - I didn't test from the livecd. are you suggesting I test from the livecd to see if it's supported on 32-bit image instead of 64-bit?
[17:15] <doc|work> anyone?
[17:15] <trever420> no try the live CD for the 64-bit and see if it works
[17:15] <croffe> will do thanks
[17:16] <widder> Hi, I have installed ubuntu 11.10. But when I start. It logs me into shell and no gnome gui is there. How can I start it
[17:16] <widder> ?
[17:16] <tomodo> I'm trying to compile sensors-applet, but it says "No package 'libpanelapplet-4.0' found". Do you know how to fix that?
[17:16] <Firebolt> gandhijee_, yeah, I don't think you can with that
[17:16] <sacarlson> [snake]: you can type id to display your own id
[17:16] <gandhijee_> Firebolt, you maybe happen to know of anyway to get that stuff back?
[17:16] <Firebolt> widder, you didn't install the server version, did you?
[17:17] <prashant> sacarlson, no not like that, i mean like Lint has said now
[17:17] <widder> Firebolt: no
[17:17] <Firebolt> gandhijee_, I don't, sorry. Perhaps google can help
[17:17] <razor85> On ubuntu 10.04, what's the default group type when doing "groupadd"?. And how to change that group type to Normal users?
[17:17] <dharri> widder type startx
[17:17] <[snake]> sacarlson, no the play command and mplayer issue- remember?
[17:18] <prashant> Lint, do you know how to get that Linux user #.....?
[17:18] <gandhijee_> Firebolt, been down that route =)  thanks for the help though
[17:18] <Lint> prashant, sorry, I don't remember
[17:18] <tomodo> I got it, -dev
[17:18] <Oer> !nounity > gandhijee
[17:18] <widder> dharri: It said, package is not installed. I am installing xinit now
[17:19] <mileon> hi @all, i have a question about synaptic. how can i hide libraries or i386 packages
[17:19] <[snake]> Is there a way to play a music file in terminal (mplayer or else another command) without the output text showing details on the file and time and volume?
[17:19] <sacarlson> [snake]: I think play is part of an alsa package
[17:20] <[snake]> sacarlson, I do not have the command and it cannot be found, let's move on.
[17:21] <[snake]> sacarlson, actually
[17:21] <ozzloy> when i ctl-z emacs and then alt+tab back to it, its contents stop updating until i resize the window.  it's still responding to input though.  i can type into the file and save and see the updated contents with cat.  why does backgrounding then foregrounding gui emacs stop the emacs window from updating?
[17:21] <sacarlson> [snake]: I see aplay  that is part of alsa-util package but I'm not sure where my command play came from
[17:21] <[snake]> sacarlson, sudo apt-get install sox has play in it
[17:21] <[snake]> :)
[17:21] <sacarlson> [snake]: that might be the play I run I'm not sure
[17:22] <ozzloy> more importantly, how do i get it to just update when i alt+tab back to it?  it used to
[17:22] <zykotick9> sacarlson: if you wanted to find out, "whereis play" then "dpkg -S /path/to/play" will show the package
[17:22] <[snake]> sacarlson, well I installed it didn't work and aplay is just giving really loud static. :P
[17:23] <sahil_>  makin marlin default file manager?is it possible?
[17:24] <Migs> hi james
[17:24] <Oer> mileon, maybe answer #2 is any help > http://askubuntu.com/questions/61337/why-is-synaptic-downloading-packages-for-both-amd64-and-i386 but 11.10 is multi-arch, both packages should work i386 + x86-64
[17:24] <[snake]> if there was possibly a flag in mplayer that just didn't show any information on the terminal that would be fine
[17:24] <mileon> [snake] try mpg123 and mpg321
[17:24] <sacarlson> zykotick9: [snake] you were correct sox: /usr/bin/play
[17:24] <mileon> Oer, thank you
[17:24] <Migs> barbarian
[17:25] <mileon> Oer, yea nice. good link
[17:27] <zykotick9> [snake]: have you tried ".. -quiet .."
[17:28] <angel282> urgent - Not related to Ubuntu :  I would like to ask what is the rule in chess (game) when pawn can eat other pawn but he choose to move forward? is the legal?
[17:28] <zykotick9> [snake]: there is also -really-quiet ;)
[17:28] <sacarlson> lint: how do you get this linux user id?  where do they keep the info?
[17:28] <doc|work> angel282: yes, absolutely
[17:28] <Lint> sacarlson, I forgot what that site was
[17:28] <razor85> On my Ubuntu 10.04 server, I need to have a user totally limited. The user can only run a python script. Not view /etc/passwd or anything like it. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to totally limit the user I have created for this purpose? The user is currently Administrator which I am unable to change in System > Administration > User & Groups
[17:29] <zykotick9> angel282: <OT> en passant perhaps?
[17:29] <sacarlson> lint: so it's a website that keeps some random number for linux users or maybe just ubuntu?  like maybe ubuntuone?
[17:29] <Lint> sacarlson, yes, basically
[17:30] <Lint> like dudalibre failure
[17:30] <sacarlson> lint: prashant: sorry I'm clueless on that user id thing
[17:30] <mileon> razor85, try limited shell
[17:30] <cormyn> anyone in here have experience with ati drivers? I'm curious if I should install the proprietary drivers and then the restricted drivers, or the other way around. Currently in 11.10, fresh install.
[17:30] <mileon> razor85, http://lshell.ghantoos.org
[17:30] <razor85> mileon: thanks, I will look into it.
[17:31] <razor85> mileon: Once I get lshell, does the user group matter?
[17:31] <zykotick9> razor85: all uses MUST be able to view /etc/passwd...
[17:32] <razor85> zykotick9: I didn
[17:32] <widder> I just installed ubuntu 11.10, there was no gui so I installed xinit. But now when I do startx, there is a terminal with a white blackground. Everything else is black on the screem
[17:32] <razor85> zykotick9: I didn't know that. I thought it could have an influence on security.
[17:32] <widder> *screen
[17:32] <zykotick9> razor85: in order to log in - that's a requirement
[17:33] <[snake]> zykotick9, THANKS :) it worked! that's exactly what I was looking for!
[17:33] <razor85> zykotick9: Ok, I see. Will try lshell as mileon recommended.
[17:33] <zykotick9> [snake]: man mplayer FTW
[17:33] <mileon> razor85, i dont know. but the passwd file has now password
[17:33] <id_> Sorry, xchat crashed ... weird. Anyone in here have experience with ati drivers? I'm curious if I should install the proprietary drivers and then the restricted drivers, or the other way around. Currently in 11.10, fresh install.
[17:33] <Lint> widder, that what xinit does
[17:33] <mileon> razor85, take shadow passwords
[17:33] <dr_willis> widder:  install a desktop or windowmanager
[17:33] <[snake]> zykotick9, lol I'll remember to look up man pages better next time
[17:33] <saryth> id_: Does 'Additional Hardware' Still exist?
[17:34] <Pikkachu> what's a clean way to share configurations among users where each one has write access to change them?
[17:34] <razor85> mileon: shadow file is blocked. But I will still look into lshell and get back here if I need any help.
[17:34] <mileon> razor85, yea ok
[17:34] <dr_willis> Pikkachu: what kind of configs ?
[17:34] <bc81> hey guys, is the Download Album Art" plugin in Ex Falso broken?  i can't seem to get it working
[17:34] <widder> dr_willis: what packages do I need to install for them ?
[17:34] <bc81> ubuntu 10.10
[17:34] <id_> saryth, it tells me I can use proprietary drivers, if that's what you mean. Neither of the prop. drivers are active yet. Wanted to ask before I installed anything
[17:35] <Pikkachu> also, how to make default media folders in ~ (music, video etc) into links to other folder without losing the folder icons? I can't find them in /usr/share/pixmaps|icons
[17:35] <saryth> id_: You should just download one
[17:35] <id_> there's an ATI driver, then a "post-release" driver, in the "restricted drivers" list
[17:35] <id_> yeah, I downloaded the driver direct from ATI, but I had read something a week ago about installing one of these, and then the other
[17:35] <Pikkachu> what's a clean way to share home configurations among users where each one has write access to change them?
[17:36] <id_> if all I need is the downloaded version, then that answers my question
[17:36] <zykotick9> Pikkachu: my recommendation - don't
[17:36] <saryth> id_: You only need one
[17:36] <id_> saryth, cool thanks very much
[17:36] <saryth> id_: No problem.
[17:37] <Pikkachu> what's a clean way to share some specific home configurations among users where each one has write access to change them? I'm thinking of links but not sure on how to put the central configs and whether this is the cleanest solution
[17:37] <Pikkachu> for example, gedit and gnome-terminal configurations
[17:38] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: maybe just ssh the files to each?
[17:38] <saryth> Pikkachu: From the creation of the user?
[17:38] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: or like rsync that also uses ssh
[17:38] <willy_> hola
[17:39] <saryth> Pikkachu: If you are going to create the user now, copy the home directory contents to /etc/skel/
[17:39] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: it's the same pc, my personal PC, firstly I want to share gedit and gnome-terminal confs between root and me
[17:39] <willy_> HELLO
[17:40] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: just symbolic link the files between if it's the same system
[17:40] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: ln -s
[17:40] <brett__> hi people , how can I set vlc as default player, im using gnome classic and when I right click in nautilus it gives me the open with another application but it dosnt give me the option to select always use this application :( please help
[17:40] <Pikkachu> saryth: preferably but not necessarily. But note I want configs to point to the same place so that if I change one config, it changes to all users pointing to them
[17:41] <Pikkachu> saryth: where each one has write access to change them -- so no /etc/skel
[17:41] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: again symbolic link the same file to all the users directory files
[17:41] <saryth> Pikkachu: Use a symb. link, as sacarlson said. The only problem with this method is that one user doesn't get write.
[17:41] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: you can have more than one sybolic link to one file
[17:41] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: do you think it's the cleanest solution? what place you'd suggest to keep the configs? /etc/skel itself?
[17:42] <kk23> which software is best to make clone a disk with linux and windows?
[17:42] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: oh sorry no write access, so not /etc/skel
[17:42] <saryth> kk23: You can use dd
[17:42] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: ya then even newly created users will have the same config
[17:43] <kk23> saryth dd i read an article took long time
[17:43] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: sorry I'm not very security minded
[17:43] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: but /etc is not writable for regular users, so it's a non-go
[17:43] <kk23> i though to use Gddrescue
[17:43] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: you can change a single file in /etc to be 777 if you want
[17:43] <hashashin> kk23, clonezilla livecd can make the job i guest
[17:44] <Pikkachu> saryth: not if you give write access, and that's required since apps does not only read configs
[17:44] <kk23> i try with clonezilla but nothing
[17:44] <kk23> disk not boot
[17:44] <thedudeabides> i'm running precise pangolin and the latest nvidia-current is crashing unity when running webgl on firefox
[17:44] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: chmod 777 /etc/skel ; I mean
[17:44] <kk23> now i try with norton ghost 4 linux
[17:44] <saryth> sacarlson: Does the num system work with chmod?
[17:45] <memikem> sacarlson, do not chmod 777
[17:45] <kk23> the problem is grub
[17:45] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: hmm I can't recall if you need write access through the whole path to write to a file, do you need?
[17:45] <kk23> when clone didn't load
[17:45] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: I'd chmod only specific files not the whole skel dir I think
[17:45] <tomodo> xfce sensors thing is not verygood
[17:45] <tomodo> the bars show up as red
[17:45] <sacarlson> memikem: I told them I wasn't security minded you could disable executable if you want or total bad idea like memikem said
[17:45] <zykotick9> thedudeabides: try reasking in #ubuntu+1
[17:46] <croffe> trever420: I did try my BCM57780 wired NIC with 64-bit 11.10 LiveUSB stick, with no luck. any suggestions on what to try next to get a Broadcom card to work?
[17:46] <Pikkachu> saryth: yes
[17:46] <thedudeabides> zykotick9: thanks
[17:46] <goddard> how can i speed test a server ?
[17:46] <saryth> croffe: Can you get windows drivers?
[17:46] <goddard> bandwidth speed
[17:46] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello all.  I'm having an issue with Ubuntu 11.10, which is happening on multiple computers.  At times the computer will lock up, but the mouse continues to move.  Mouse clicks do not register, nor to keyboard commands. The only thing I can seem to do is reboot.  This is happening on a 4 year old Dell, and a 2 year old HP. Any ideas?
[17:47] <croffe> saryth: yes, there are Windows drivers, also in the Broadcom site they do have a tgz with rpm files for Linux drivers.
[17:47] <Pikkachu> Cajun_Lan_Man: yes, reinstall from scratch
[17:47] <saryth> croffe: I recommend downloading the windows drivers and using ndiswrapper
[17:47] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Pikkachu: This is happening on a clean install, as of 2 days ago.
[17:47] <kokozaurs> A bit non ubuntu related question, is there any way to download attachment from ipb forum without registration?
[17:47] <Pikkachu> Cajun_Lan_Man: I assume that years old includes dist-upgrades
[17:48] <croffe> Is ndiswrapper comparably fast/stable?
[17:48] <Pikkachu> Cajun_Lan_Man: ah ok sorry then
[17:48] <mayur> Black screen is shown on startup.Can anyone help?
[17:48] <saryth> croffe:When I used it, it worked fine
[17:48] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Pikkachu: the age was referring to the hardware.  The installs are both clean.
[17:48] <croffe> thanks
[17:48] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | mayur
[17:48] <kokozaurs> Or in worst case
[17:48] <kokozaurs> there is an setting that admins need to
[17:48] <kokozaurs> approve people before they can download attachments, i need to download one from that specific forum
[17:48] <mayur> i tried that but the prblm persists
[17:49] <kokozaurs> is there any way to find the path where the file is actually located? Invision power board
[17:49] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: I just verified you can read write files in /etc with a standard user if file is set to chmod 777
[17:49] <trever420> croffe: i'm not sure... but you might be able to use ndiswrapper on the Windows driver and see if it works
[17:50] <Pikkachu> saryth, sacarlson: thanks for the suggestions, I'll consider putting specfic settings onto /etc/skell then chmod g=rw them. However I have to greate a group, any name suggestions? Maybe 'sharedconf'? Maybe using an existing one, but which?
[17:50] <mbeierl> question: I have a PPTP connection from one ubuntu box to another.  If I attempt to ssh using the pptp peer address, the connection handshake occurs but after about 2 seconds of inactivity (according to ssh -vv), the connection is terminated without any error or log on the server.  I know the keys/etc are all good
[17:51] <saryth> Pikkachu: Create a new group, if you wish. You can add users to multiple groups
[17:51] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: you don't +x a file unless you want to execute that file
[17:51] <croffe> hmm ndiswrapper says it's for wireless drivers, whereas mine is wired :) will keep on reading though to see if it can be used with wired.
[17:51] <Pikkachu> saryth: I know the basics :P
[17:51] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: yes I just tested with chmod 666 /etc/filename and that works too
[17:51] <saryth> croffe: Ndiswrapper can work with Ethernet
[17:51] <croffe> great
[17:51] <saryth> Pikkachu: Just making sure ;3
[17:51] <zykotick9> sacarlson: as a general rule, setting something to 777 is the wrong thing to do
[17:52] <Pikkachu> saryth: I think I'll take a look into existing groups, preferably those in which all users are included by default
[17:52] <sacarlson> zykotick9: didn't I change it to 666 the so the devil has a part of it now
[17:52] <zykotick9> sacarlson: as a general rule, setting something to 666 is still the wrong thing to do ;)
[17:52] <morph> anyone running cinnamon on ubuntu?
[17:52] <urfr332gO> So is vlc 2 in the Oneric repos now?
[17:53] <sacarlson> zykotick9: so fix it
[17:53] <Oer> urfr332gO, no, not yet.
[17:53] <Maslo> test
[17:54] <zykotick9> sacarlson: no.  i don't help people do things i don't agree with.
[17:54] <aeon-ltd> Maslo: passed
[17:54] <urfr332gO> Oer, are you sure it has been in the 12.04 srepos ince the 18th?
[17:54] <lucidguy> Does anyone know if there is a netdump package for Ubuntu.  My repos come back with nothing.
[17:54] <urfr332gO> repos*
[17:54] <sacarlson> zykotick9: when time is important at times people take risks that they shouldn't, I hope they find better solutions for the long run
[17:54] <Oer> urfr332gO, yes
[17:55] <Pikkachu> would a dist-upgrade overwrite /etc/skell? also, how does config upgrade work? I've seen some diff dialogs in upgrades but I wonder how it works, is it package based? Is there any non-home config file which would not be added or managed (though scripts triggered on removal) by some package?
[17:56] <saryth> Is installing from PPA the only way of getting vlc 2 on ubuntu?
[17:56] <urfr332gO> !info | vlc
[17:57] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: if you mean about 777 or 666, they won't make the solution any faster to find out
[17:57] <zykotick9> morph: people have tried, and come in here asking for help (but it's not supported).  If you want cinnamon, use mint is easiest method.
[17:57] <_Marcus> !vlc
[17:57] <_Marcus> !info vlc
[17:57] <bellman> if you run Debian, you can simply apt-get install vlc to install the VLC media player.
[17:57] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: it's a solution that already works but with bad security as pointed out by zykotick9
[17:57] <urfr332gO> _Marcus, thanks I was not sure of the bots syntax.
[17:58] <_Marcus> Hello. I made a link to a directory(I used some mount command, I don't remember what it was) and I need to delete it. When I try to delete it or the folder that it links to it just says "rm: cannot remove `foldername': Device or resource is busy"
[17:58] <_Marcus> How do I remove it?
[17:58] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: you would rather suggest 662
[17:58] <virunga> Hi, i want to know and see the interface of my network card object using gdbus but i don't know the object path, can you help me please?
[17:59] <urfr332gO> morph, cinnamon is not supported here. :)
[17:59] <zykotick9> _Marcus: check output of "mount" it needs to be unmounted first (be sure your pwd isn't in that mount)
[17:59] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: I guess 660 then only the group allowed has read write with no executable might be closer but I"m not security minded
[18:00] <_Marcus> zykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/851644/ It did say it twice.
[18:01] <trism> virunga: install d-feet, it will be much easier to browse dbus and find what you need
[18:01] <zykotick9> _Marcus: "type none" what filesystem is this?
[18:01] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: then maybe you have something set so that new added users also are in that group?
[18:01] <_Marcus> zykotick9: Idk, it just followed what some tutorial online told me to do. It doesn't say how to remove it.
[18:01] <zykotick9> _Marcus: ummm, perhaps it's due to use of bind?
[18:01] <llutz> zykotick9: bind-mount "none (rw,bind)"
[18:02] <_Marcus> zykotick9: Yes! How do I unbind it?
[18:03] <llutz> _Marcus: sudo umount /home/webmaster/name    twice
[18:03] <zykotick9> _Marcus: what happens if you run "sudo umount /home/webmaster/name"
[18:03] <virunga> trism, ok
[18:03] <virunga> thanks
[18:03] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: that's achieved with 66x
[18:04] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: as for the group I'll try to use one of those in which all users are included by default
[18:04] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: does chmod 66x /filename even work?  if it did sounds good
[18:05] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: it's not very important the last bit, just though of o=r for convenience
[18:05] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: sound like a plan to me
[18:05] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: are you human or a parser?
[18:05] <bellman> i have read that there is a new security exploit in sudo. how do you replace this feature with a safer form of root access.? i just want to be able to ssh -l root   or su -l
[18:06] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: what's a parser?  a robot?
[18:06] <saryth> bellman: su -c
[18:06] <zykotick9> !noroot | bellman
[18:06] <bellman> !root
[18:06] <saryth> !wfm
[18:06] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: nevermind, with you would want 66x?
[18:06] <NOSaturn> oh no i think i did a bad... "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[18:07] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: I think it has little to no importance
[18:07] <saryth> NOSaturn: How so?
[18:07] <kokozaurz>  Didnt know if this could be the right channel for this kind of situation, but i am in a little bit of trouble. There is one InvisionPowerBoard forum and i need to download attachment from one topic, the only problem is that i can't download it, because there is system that after 10posts you have to ask admin for approving you, so you can download files in that section, only problem is that
[18:07] <kokozaurz> the admin havent been there for some 4 months, so is there any other way to get exact file location url? only thing i can get out from now is ../index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=4791
[18:07] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: oh ok yes that's fine in my book
[18:07] <urfr332gO> NOSaturn, that just removes the cruft
[18:07] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: 66x is fine in your book?
[18:07] <crash1hd> I have a command find . -name "*.sh" -print I was wondering if there was a way to modify it so that I can get the permision details? like ls -al does but recursive and only returning files ending in .sh
[18:07] <zykotick9> kokozaurz: this is NOT the right channel (and you've already tried to ask, without reply)
[18:07] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: ya not that I've writen any lately
[18:07] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: s/with would/why would
[18:08] <NOSaturn> it's killling cheese, dconf, gnome core......
[18:08] <NOSaturn> this is not good is it?
[18:08] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: you mean you have a book stating '66x' as valid?
[18:08] <_Marcus> THank you zykotick9 and llutz
[18:08]  * saryth is updating kernel
[18:08] <saryth> I'll have to brb soon, then.
[18:08] <urfr332gO> NOSaturn, I doubt running that command is the cause.
[18:08] <bellman> so the ubuntu installer picks a very safe long and non guessable root pass phrase?
[18:09] <ssta> 66x isn't a valid mode
[18:09] <urfr332gO> !tab | NOSaturn
[18:09] <llutz> crash1hd:  find . -name "*.sh" -exec ls -l {} \;
[18:09] <NOSaturn> whelp..... it's all done... i hope everything is ok
[18:09] <NOSaturn> lol
[18:09] <Lint> bellman, password is empty, account is disabled
[18:09] <urfr332gO> NOSaturn, be sure to use nics on the channel. :)
[18:09] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: your confusing me,  yes 66x isn't a valid mode but I assume from standard notation that x means any
[18:09] <ssta> bellman: no, there is no root password...it#'s disabled
[18:09] <lolmoney> bellman: no one uses root passwords anymore its depreciated
[18:10]  * NOSaturn is screaming into the wind. really
[18:10] <zykotick9> lolmoney: "... in ubuntu"
[18:10] <lolmoney> zykotick9: its just not cool anymore
[18:10] <zykotick9> lolmoney: "... in ubuntu"
[18:10] <jdowling> it's not deprecated, if you want to set a root password, simply type sudo su
[18:10] <urfr332gO> lolmoney, ubuntu does not eveybody is a incorrect statement fedora and debian uses root passwords
[18:10] <jdowling> then type passwd and it will set a root password
[18:10] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: yeah that's what I meant, btw not sure if you know but there's a more human friendly notation, e.g. chmod u=rwx,g+w,o-x
[18:10] <zykotick9> !noroot | jdowling
[18:11] <bellman> so basicaaly it is disabled like on an android phone  so you would have to go through a rooting process to fix it. i think grub single user
[18:11] <jdowling> wow
[18:11] <jdowling> but it's safer to just use sudo
[18:11] <ssta> bellman: no, it's disabled by setting the hash to an impossible value.
[18:11] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: ya but I have to look that up each time I use it so I stick with numbers
[18:11] <urfr332gO> bellman, no you use sudo
[18:11] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: look that up?
[18:11] <lolmoney> bellman: add a user named root
[18:11] <bellman> i think sudo su has fixed the problem for me
[18:12] <zykotick9> lolmoney: NO! root is already there!  bellman
[18:12] <jdowling> no, it's not like rooting an android
[18:12] <urfr332gO> bellman, sudo -i is what you use
[18:12] <Pikkachu> btw what's the rule for sudo and gksu asking for the password again?
[18:12] <lolmoney> bellman: just alias sudo su in .bashrc
[18:12] <bellman> cool thank you
[18:12] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: ya like google it = look that up
[18:12] <zykotick9> Pikkachu: 15 minutes
[18:13] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: you have to google the more human friendly notation as opposed to the number notation???
[18:13] <zykotick9> Pikkachu: FYI, it resets every time you type sudo
[18:13] <ssta> bellman: prefer sudo -i (usually)
[18:13] <jdowling> what resets everytime you type sudo?
[18:13] <jdowling> or just sudo -
[18:13] <sacarlson> Pikkachu: ya go figure
[18:13] <zykotick9> jdowling: the sudo 15 minute timer
[18:14] <Pikkachu> zykotick9: good, but I think it asks for password in more sutuations
[18:14] <Pikkachu> sacarlson: figure what, sorry?
[18:14] <jdowling> zkotick9: what do you mean???
[18:14] <zykotick9> !tab > jdowling
[18:14] <ksx4system> my netbook used to run perfectly with Unity (default mode so with 3D) until now. It booted with Unity 2D interface (rebooted it twice, double checked if default Unity mode is choosen) and 800x600 resolution. what's wrong and how can I fix it?
[18:14] <Pikkachu> jdowling: that if you type sudo it will restart counting
[18:14] <zykotick9> jdowling: when you type sudo for 15 minutes i won't ask for your password again
[18:14] <jdowling> ah
[18:15] <ksx4system> I should mention that I'm using i915 graphics driver (Intel GMA3150 graphics, integrated with NM10 chipset)
[18:15] <jdowling> zykotick9: thanks for the info :)
[18:15] <bellman> is it safe to add updatedb and shutdown -r now as NOPASSWD commands in sudoers
[18:15] <jdowling> ubottu: and ditto to ubottu
[18:16] <Pikkachu> jdowling: then if you type sudo again at 14min it will start counting 15min again. This means that you'd never be prompet for password again as long as you type some sudo within every 15min
[18:16] <ssta> bellman: it's your system...
[18:17] <sacarlson> bellman: it's more dependant on how many users on the system at one time and the danger that one shutdown will not cause others problems
[18:18] <bellman> what is the liability for other users running dynamic forwards proxies and rtorrents   would logs prove it was nother user
[18:18] <Barbariandude> patson: hey
[18:18] <saryth> >VLC now plays youtube correctly
[18:18] <saryth> :D
[18:18] <zykotick9> bellman: this is not a legal advice channel
[18:19] <bellman> ok
[18:19] <jdowling> zykotick9: lol, awesome
[18:19] <ksx4system> anybody? how do I fix this resolution problem mentioned above?
[18:20] <sacarlson> zykotick9: liability can in context be used in other things other than law, but I'm not an english profesor now am i
[18:20] <jdowling> ksx4system: was this after you did updates or installed a particular type of software?
[18:20] <lolmoney> bellman: as a lawyer id avise installing LIOC so you can displace the blame from yourself
[18:21] <zykotick9> sacarlson: well, you have to take the context into consideration - torrents/proxy... come on ;)
[18:21] <jdowling> lolmoney: or use proxy
[18:21] <razor85> mileon: lshell worked as a charm. Thanks a lot ;)
[18:21] <ksx4system> jdowling: no, even after latest updates (yesterday) it used to work correctly. on both kernels, 3.0 (default) and 3.3 (daily build stolen from 12.04 ppa)
[18:22] <zykotick9> ksx4system: mixing repos is a BAD idea
[18:23] <ksx4system> zykotick9: who said that I was mixing repos? I just downloaded *.deb files and dpkg -i them.
[18:23] <crash1hd> llutz, thanks :)(
[18:23] <alone> hello, any one know, why ubuntu not working after install
[18:23] <sacarlson> zykotick9: point taken
[18:23] <alone> with 2 monitors
[18:23] <ksx4system> zykotick9: also, other box works perfectly on the same kernel
[18:23] <zykotick9> ksx4system: from packages designed for another system - thus - mixing repos is more-or-less still accurate
[18:23] <ksx4system> zykotick9: whatever, problem persists on stock 11.10 kernel too. are you satisfied?
[18:24] <jdowling> zykotick9: agreed
[18:24] <zykotick9> ksx4system: good luck with your franken-ubuntu issue.
[18:25] <alone> anyone have a problem with 2 monitors after install?
[18:25] <ksx4system> zykotick9: well, I should write it again: there are no mixed repos. single deb with fresh kernel and even if I boot using *stock* (yes, that means default) 11.10 kernel my problem persists. so think about it like there's no 3.3 kernel in here.
[18:26] <hot2trot> is there anyway to video edit with mplayer? I just want to flag the beginning and end of a clip and kind of crop it
[18:27] <gmannn_> Guys. Could you help me a bit with the Volume Indicator on Lubuntu?
[18:27] <zykotick9> hot2trot: mplayer no, mencoder maybe (but i doubt it'll be what you want, if it's possible).  avidemux is a pretty basic video editor (there are many more).
[18:27] <bj0rn2> hot2trot: ffmpeg can do it
[18:27] <boardinary> My volume keys on my keyboard change the sound but don't give the "blip" feedback sound
[18:28] <boardinary> anyone know whats wrong with that?
[18:28] <sacarlson> alone: I prefer two computer systems with two monitors with quicksynergy to make them feel as one with a single keyboard and mouse, but I wish you the best
[18:28] <zykotick9> alone: what grahics card are you using?
[18:28] <Guest45569> greetings: I've just installed Precise Pangolin on my machine, what should I do to get everything running smoothly? what should I add to my repository?
[18:29] <zykotick9> Guest45569: reask in the #ubuntu+1 channel
[18:29] <morph> goodevening all. tried to use gnome-shell in ubuntu but everytime i access activities at starts flickering and crashes. can anyone help me on this one
[18:29] <aeon-ltd> boardinary: they aren't assigned to anything?
[18:29] <nisargshah95> morph: Which version?
[18:29] <boardinary> aeon-ltd, they change the volume fine, but there isn't a blip sound to indicate the volume change
[18:30] <Guest45569> #join #ubuntu+1
[18:30] <Guest45569> join #ubuntu+1
, radeon 6450
[18:30] <morph> nisargshah95, ubuntu 11.10 gnome-sheel 3.2.1
[18:30] <zykotick9> alone: AMD/ATI - sorry i can't help.  good luck.
[18:30] <xsl> guys is there a way to log all commands typed on a terminal ( console, ssh, tty )
[18:30] <alone> zykotick9 with one monitor OK
[18:30] <zykotick9> alone: AMD/ATI - sorry i can't help.  good luck.
[18:31] <zykotick9> xsl: "script" it's a command
[18:31] <alone> zykotick9 thanx you!
[18:31] <nemik> so is the android ubuntu thing planned to be an open source project? are there any timelines for even the alpha software to be released for testing?
[18:31] <sacarlson> xsl: yes I think there is, I saw some security thing that showed that even a none sudo user on a system can monitor key activity on a shared system
[18:32] <weiszdruck> สวัดดีชาวโลก
[18:33] <alone> sacarlson quicksynergy dont know what is it
[18:33] <morph> nisargshah95, any help ?
[18:34] <nisargshah95> Lemme see. I use 11.04 so...
[18:34] <nisargshah95> @morph: Try getting help @ http://ubuntuforums.org/
[18:34] <Guest45569> how do you install the gnome enviroment?
[18:34] <sacarlson> alone: quicksynergy is just the gui for synergy http://synergy-foss.org/
[18:35] <zykotick9> !notunity | Guest45569
[18:35] <Guest45569> zykotick9: thank you
[18:38] <sacarlson> xsl: I'm sure you must have seen this already http://code.google.com/p/logkeys/
[18:39] <sacarlson> xsl: I think it's only going to record keys on x11 operations
[18:40] <xsl> i dont wish to record X11 stuff
[18:40] <xsl> only if someone opens a gnome-term
[18:40] <Mr> what are some good network sniffing tools?
[18:40] <sacarlson> xsl: well that's what most of ubuntu runs in gui on x11
[18:40] <xsl> i want is tty and pts stuff
[18:40] <xsl> i want to monitor "helpdesk" users that log on a computer and do stuff on them
[18:41] <xsl> like .. if a computer does not boot.. i can see who did something wrong
[18:41] <trever420> camera xs1?
[18:41] <trever420> lol
[18:41] <sacarlson> xsl: well if they are on a standard desktop then it will be recording
[18:41] <trever420> if someone opens a terminal i believe that is still part of X11
[18:42] <trever420> as long as it's the terminal application
[18:42] <chrisgeorge> What is the best way to package a newer libevent for 10.04?
[18:42] <AlanBell> nemik: your guess is as good as anyone elses :)
[18:42] <kpas_> Mr, wireshark for GUI - tshark for CLI
[18:42] <sacarlson> trever420: yes gnome-terminal is still x11
[18:42] <gmannn> guys
[18:42] <gmannn> anybody can help me?
[18:42] <melodie> chrisgeorge, none, this version will no longer be maintained
[18:42] <melodie> gmannn, don't ask to ask : just ask ?
[18:43] <gmannn> Ok
[18:43] <chrisgeorge> melodie: I was going to self compile it. Because that's what we're running in prod.
[18:43] <gmannn> Could anybody help me with the Volume indicator in Lubuntu?
[18:43] <melodie> chrisgeorge, that seems simple and straightforward
[18:44] <melodie> if you compile with the defaut configure you will have the program in /usr/local/ so it is easy to uninstall it with rm when you will need to. (if you need)
[18:44] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | chrisgeorge melodie
[18:45] <chrisgeorge> thank you ubottu
[18:45] <Pikkachu> zykotick9: this is what was causing it to ask password everytime: sudo() { command sudo "$@"; command sudo -i clean-home; }
[18:45] <melodie> ubottu, yes, good idea indeed.
[18:45] <melodie> zykotick9, thanks
[18:45] <chrisgeorge> er zykotick9 that is.
[18:46] <zykotick9> ;)
[18:46] <melodie> zykotick9, who is the bot, you or him ? ;D
[18:46] <sdferfx> Hello. I am trying to use Ubuntu AMIs to install Ubuntu 11.10, but I want to attach to my own EBS device. Can this happen? If not, how do I manually specify an ISO to EC2 for install?
[18:46] <gmannn> Could anybody help me with the Volume indicator in Lubuntu? When I press volume down/up I want it to show the level on my screen
[18:47] <melodie> sdferfx, what is a ebs device ?
[18:47] <melodie> gmannn, have you checked if a lubuntu chan exists ?
[18:47] <gmannn> it does exist. But there are few people
[18:47] <sdferfx> melodie, Amazon's virtual storage platform; my question is relevant to the official Canonical-provided AMIs for Ubuntu
[18:47] <melodie> right, but they might know more about the lubuntu methods
[18:48] <Mr> kpas whast cli?
[18:49] <sacarlson> melodie: sdferfx:  ebs = extra big stuf
[18:49] <Mr> does anyone run Ableton Live in ubuntu?
[18:49] <melodie> sacarlson, lol
[18:49] <zykotick9> Mr: cli = Command Line Interface (aka terminal)
[18:49] <melodie> sdferfx, canonical provides... what ?
[18:50] <melodie> how many bucks does he earn while providing Extra Big Stuff ? ^^
[18:50] <sdferfx> melodie, http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/11.10/release/
[18:50] <Mr> ahh ok
[18:50] <melodie> sdferfx, :)
[18:50] <Mr> i got wireshark it says i have to change root user its dangerous
[18:50] <Pici> sdferfx: You may want to try asking in #ubuntu-server
[18:51] <kpas_> Mr,  yes correct
[18:51] <sdferfx> ok Pici, I'll try, thanks
[18:51] <Mr> how do i do that?
[18:51] <Zermanno> hi, i'm using top but i can't understand which unit it use in the TIME columne, are they seconds?
[18:51] <kpas_> Mr, you need to start it with sudo
[18:51] <Mr> i did
[18:51] <Mr> sudo wireshar
[18:51] <Mr> wireshark
[18:51] <zykotick9> kpas_: it gives a warning when you start it
[18:51] <kpas_> Mr, correct
[18:52] <zykotick9> !gksu | Mr
[18:52] <Mr> thats it i dont have to change anything?
[18:52] <kpas_> zykotick9, ignore
[18:52] <sacarlson> mr: if it's a security problem you can make the user only sudo access to wireshark to run
[18:52] <kpas_> zykotick9, the waring
[18:52] <zykotick9> kpas_: i know ;)
[18:52] <Mr> ok thanks ubottu
[18:52] <kpas_> zykotick9, I perfer CLI much easier to deal with
[18:52] <Mr> Running as user "root" and group "root".
[18:52] <Mr> This could be dangerous.
[18:53] <bilal03> hello there
[18:53] <zykotick9> kpas_: oh i'm a HUGE terminal guy.  if i can't run it in screen, what good is it ;)
[18:53] <sacarlson> mr: not if the user can only run that application as root
[18:53] <kpas_> Mr,  yeah typical warning
[18:53] <kk23> trying manual resume from /dev/disk/by/ata ...........-part10 to appear  how to fix it?
[18:53] <Mr> so i dont have to worry about it
[18:53] <Mr> ?
[18:54] <j814wong> So what does every think opf Ubuntu for Android?
[18:54] <zykotick9> Mr: just ignore the warning message (not much you can do, in this case)
[18:54] <kpas_> Mr, no if it is your own desktop don't worry about it
[18:54] <bilal03> hi guyz, when i boot in to ubuntu 11.10 after some time windows borders disappers,.. :(
[18:54] <sacarlson> mr: all wireshark does to need sudo is change your nic to permisquose mode
[18:54] <Mr> ok it is mine
[18:54] <danileigh79> j814wong: I Ihaven't tried it yet, don't feel like voiding my warranty
[18:54] <Mr> im new to ubuntu i dont know what that mode is
[18:54] <dr_willis> bilal03:  compiz is crashing for some reason most likely
[18:55] <j814wong> danileigh, its not out yet.  It is supposed to come preinstalled in  some phones in the future
[18:55] <sacarlson> mr: I spelled it wrong so maybe no one does
[18:55] <Mr> then i get this error:   Lua: Error during loading:
[18:55] <Mr>  [string "/usr/share/wireshark/init.lua"]:45: dofile has been disabled\
[18:55] <j814wong> But I hope there is teh option to install it on devices that don't come with it preinstalled
 so now how can i fix this??
[18:55] <dr_willis> j814wong:  theres a ubuntu vm thing for android out now
[18:55] <j814wong> Can I get a link dr willis?
[18:55] <dr_willis> bilal03:  no idea. depends on why its crashing.
[18:55] <kpas_> Mr, how did you  install wireshark - apt-get ..... or tar ball
[18:55] <danileigh79> j814wong: tere is an app in marketplace called Ubuntu Installer or something like that, it does work, I have a riend who tried it
[18:56] <dr_willis> j814wong:  its in the android market
[18:56] <Mr> apt-get install wireshark
[18:56] <j814wong> Cool.  I'll give it a go on my tablet
[18:56] <Mr> sudo first
[18:56] <j814wong> Does it need root?
[18:56] <dr_willis> bilal03:  try a   compiz --replace from a terminal if you can
[18:56] <danileigh79> j814wong: make sure you have a backup firsts
[18:56] <dr_willis> j814wong:  yes it does
[18:56] <danileigh79> j814wong: yes
[18:57] <j814wong> finally a good reason for me to root
[18:57] <j814wong> A good incentive
 works!!!!
[18:57] <danileigh79> j814wong: good luck
[18:57] <danileigh79> brb
[18:57] <j814wong> thanks
[18:57] <kpas_> Mr, did you select an interface to trap on
 thanks
[18:57] <Mr> nope, i dont know what that means im a total noob to ubuntu
[18:57] <dr_willis> bilal03:  the fusion-icon or similer indicator applet can restart comoiz if it crashes
[18:58] <kpas_> Mr, interface = ethernet port -
[18:58] <kpas_> Mr, example eth0
[18:58] <j814wong> Does rooting ruin access to any Google apps?
[18:58] <Mr> i see them
[18:59] <dr_willis> j814wong:  no.. you m ay want to head to #android
[18:59] <kpas_> Mr, open up a terminal and issue the following command = ifconfig -a
[18:59] <kpas_> Mr, that will list out you interfaces
[19:00] <Mr> ok then what
[19:01] <SubjectOne> is XDMCP for ubuntu 10.10 no longer supported ?
[19:01] <Mr> KPAS???
[19:02] <dr_willis> SubjectOne:  ive not heard of it being removed. some login managers dont support it.
[19:02] <SubjectOne> normally i activate it with the advanced settings for the GDMSETUP, but i no longer have those tabs
[19:02] <dr_willis> SubjectOne:  gdm3 dont have it. xdm or kdm does
[19:02] <kurtwp_> Mr, goto capture on the menu
[19:02] <kk23> any ideA how to fix it http://i41.tinypic.com/3445q9k.jpg
[19:03] <danik> hello guys ive tried to use screen but now i have 5 sockets on :( how can i close them :(( cant do anything with /etc/init.d/screen stop
[19:03] <SubjectOne> omg, damn upgrade
[19:03] <SubjectOne> :p
[19:03] <Mr> ok
[19:03] <dr_willis> danik:  why are you running screen as a service?
[19:04] <zykotick9> danik: "screen -ls" to list them.  "screen -r ####" to reconnect, then type "exit" to close.
[19:04] <kurtwp_> Mr,  once selected start a new file live capture.  I would recommend you join the chahel #wireshark
[19:04] <danik> dr_willis i dont think that im doing that
[19:04] <danik> zykotick9  somthing like this i see  28187.pts-0.vmd1626     (02/21/2012 07:22:17 PM)        (Detached)
[19:05] <dr_willis> danik:  ive never seen screen  launched from init.d
[19:05] <zykotick9> danik: in your example "screen -r 28187" should reconnect
[19:05] <Scott_S> danik: Are you trying to terminate the screens along with their process, or just the screen itself?
[19:05] <danik> zykotick9 when i login into screen i cant do anything no shorcut works
[19:06] <danik> scott_s with their process but now i want to just get ride of them :(
[19:06] <zykotick9> danik: i'm unclear what you mean by that.  Are you using teh "screen -r #####" to reconnect?
[19:07] <danik> zykotick9 yes but when i reconnect theres nothing i can do in there
[19:08] <danik> zykotick9 i mean my bash wont work just shorcuts
[19:08] <ross226> what is the command for checking the code name for the distro?
[19:08] <bradleymeck> i just spun up a rackspace 10.04 and am seeing some odd errors when installing `couchdb`, seems im getting 404s, has anyone seen this recently?
[19:08] <zykotick9> danik: reconnect then "ctrl+a" followed by "k" to kill one
[19:08] <zykotick9> danik: shortcuts?  do you mean an alias?
[19:09] <Scott_S> danik: typing 'screen -list' should bring up a list of the screens along with their PID. Attach to the screen with 'screen -x', then press 'CTRL+A+K'
[19:09] <danik> zykotick9 sorry sir if i say something wrong im pretty new to ubuntu
[19:09] <kk23> http://i41.tinypic.com/3445q9k.jpg can you help me with this?
[19:09] <zykotick9> danik: i'm just not sure what you mean by "shortcuts"
[19:10] <danik> scott_s thx dude
[19:10] <Scott_S> danik: You're welcome.
[19:10] <danik> zykotick9 dude when i try to ctrl+a k they will stay there again i mean i can reconnect them :(
[19:10] <zykotick9> Scott_S: fyi, under normal screen usage it's -r to reconnect, the -x if for multi-display
[19:10] <Scott_S> danik: You can also kill the process with 'kill [PID]', which will terminate both the process and the screen. This is a last resort though and is not recommended in any way.
[19:11] <zykotick9> danik: NO! that kills teh screen
[19:11] <Scott_S> zykotick9: Yes, but either one works. =P
[19:11] <zykotick9> danik: ctrl+a+d to detact
[19:11] <danik> scott_s which one is pid here :((((   28187.pts-0.vmd1626     (02/21/2012 07:22:18 PM)        (Attached)
[19:11] <zykotick9> s/detact/detach/
[19:11] <danik> im too noob :(
[19:11] <Scott_S> danik: CTRL+A+K is to kill the screen. CTRL+A+D is to detach from the screen.
[19:12] <Scott_S> danik: The PID is the first number on the screen's name, on that one, it's 28187. I would not suggest killing the process unless it's absolutely necessary.
[19:12] <dr_willis> may be woth while to read a few screen tutorials or try byobu
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Scott_S: or:   killall -u $USER
[19:13] <Scott_S> ActionParnsnip: AP to the rescue!
[19:13] <danik> scott_s when can i send u a pastie.com link ?
[19:13] <danik> i have bad problem
[19:13] <danik> :(
[19:13]  * ActionParsnip walks in to a fanfare
[19:13] <Scott_S> danik: Send it anytime.
[19:15] <danik> scott_s can u pls take a look at this ? http://pastie.org/3428976
[19:16] <Scott_S> danik: screen -r 28187.pts-0.vmd1626
[19:16] <danik> minecraft@vmd1626:~/server1$ screen -r 28187.pts-0.vmd1626 There is a screen on:         28187.pts-0.vmd1626     (02/21/2012 07:22:17 PM)        (Attached) There is no screen to be resumed matching 28187.pts-0.vmd1626. minecraft@vmd1626:~/server1$ screen -r 28187.pts-0.vmd1626 There is a screen on:         28187.pts-0.vmd1626     (02/21/2012 07:22:17 PM)        (Attached) There is no screen to be resumed matching 28187.pts-0.vmd1626.
[19:16] <danik> oh sorry didnt want to spam
[19:17] <danik> scott_s resault dude http://pastie.org/3428995
[19:17] <danik> scott_s kill them ?
[19:18] <Scott_S> danik: Oneee moment here.
[19:18] <burzum2> Hello, I have Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS and an automated security update updated apache2 from 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.7 to 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.8, how can I revert back to 8.7?
[19:18] <dr_willis> !pin
[19:19] <Bahaman> Hi, im new to ubuntu and I'm trying to set a background in CSS but the path is confusing me. The .jpg background is in the default Downloads folder and I've tried to set the path in CSS to /home/xxx/Downloads/images/background.jpg but I can't get it to work. Any ideas? :>
[19:20] <Scott_S> danik: I don't know what to tell you, I would prefer not to just tell you to kill the processes, as you should be able to reattach to them...
[19:20] <Crooper> Hello all :)
[19:20] <morph> evening Crooper
[19:20] <Scott_S> danik: Could you try just doing 'screen -r' with no extra paramaters? See if you connect to any of them?
[19:20] <burzum2> I have Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS and an automated security update updated apache2 from 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.7 to 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.8, how can I revert back to 8.7? I need to revert for testing an issue that might happen because of the update.
[19:21] <danik> scott_s my process in there is not important for me but when i kill them will it damage screen thingy ?
[19:21] <danik> ok i try
[19:22] <danik> scott_s it says several available screens which to connect
[19:22] <Scott_S> danik: Killing the processes will not damage screen. It will simply quit the screen like you were trying to do before.
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Burzum: you may have the old deb in /var/cache/apt/archives if you haven't cleared the cache
[19:22] <Scott_S> danik: Killing the screen would terminate the process anyways, they're pretty much the same.
[19:23] <burzum2> ActionParsnip no, its gone
[19:23] <Scott_S> ActionParsnip: Any ideas as to why using 'screen -r [screen name]' wouldn't be working? I myself am not that experienced with it, so I could be giving false directions for reconnecting to one
[19:24] <danik> scott_s when i created this user i forgot to give him default bash can it be the problem ? every time i login i first type bash
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> with byobu, you no longer need to do 'screen -r'
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Scott_S: I've never used screen, sorry
[19:24] <Scott_S> ActionParsnip: Roger, thanks anyways
[19:24] <Scott_S> danik: Screens, if I recall, are private to the user they were started on. So, if you started screen on 'userA', 'userB' will not be able to view the screen.
[19:26] <danik> scott_s thx for the kill solution now they are gone :// but accessing them is impossible :(
[19:26] <subthalamus> MonkeyDust: might i also suggest tmux
[19:26] <Scott_S> danik: You would have to start the screens again to regain access to them. Once the process is killed, the screen is gone too.
[19:26] <danik> scott_s yeah i meant that i started new screens and have same problem :(( bash wont work in them
[19:27] <nsd> Hi, I'm having a networking problem. I have a machine with a wireless USB adapter that works only when the eth0 (wired ethernet) device is disabled with 'sudo ifdown eth0'. Is there a way I can permanently disable eth0 so wlan0 will work?
[19:27] <Scott_S> danik: That's very odd. You should be able to just connect to them by typing 'screen -r [startOfName]', so I'm not sure why they wouldn't be working.
[19:27] <zykotick9> Scott_S: in order to use names to reconnect (you need to name them first, ctrl+a then shift+a) for example one of my screen sessions (listed with "screen -ls" is 3302.monitors, and i can use "screen -r monitors" to reconnect to it)
[19:28] <Scott_S> zykotick9: I was under the impression that screens would name themselves based on the PID and the name of the process? At least, they usually do for me
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Nsd: could blacklist the driver module used by the Ethernet
[19:28] <nsd> ActionParsnip: Yeah that's a thought. What's the config file for that? (haven't done that in a while)
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Nsd: or disable the wired link in bios
[19:29] <mlr> There's a clever command that shows you the permissions for a directory recusrively so you can make sure it can be accessed...what's the command?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> !blacklist
[19:29] <nsd> ActionParsnip: I don't believe I have that option in the BIOS of that machine, I'll have to blacklist the module like you suggested
[19:30] <bmonkj> ubottu is brilliant
[19:33] <uKi`> I would like tu disable "./make" on my ubuntu.. what should I do?
[19:34] <inca> hello
[19:35] <ban123nana> Hey, all. I just created a new user account, set it as admin, and lowered the current user to "standard'. No password was set for the new admin, though, so now I can't do anything? How can I straighten this out? Thanks!
[19:35] <inca> you have to login as admin and make a password
[19:36] <inca> can i install packages on a broken system through a live cd?
[19:36] <Scott_S> ban123nana: I would assume that the user you're on still has sudo priveleges, therefore, if you type 'sudo passwd [user]', you can restore a password to the new admin.
[19:37] <burzum2> I have Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS and an automated security update updated apache2 from 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.7 to 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.8, how can I revert back to 8.7?
[19:37] <ban123nana> I can't login, as there is no password for the admin account...
[19:37] <Scott_S> ban123nana: Log into the old account, assign a password with 'sudo passwd newAdminUser
[19:37] <danileigh79> !pin | burzum2
[19:38] <burzum2> danileigh79 thanks, reading this
[19:38] <inca> can i install packages on a broken system through a live cd?
[19:38] <ban123nana> Thanks Scott.
[19:39] <danileigh79> burzum2: This link helps, it's where I learned about pinning https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[19:39] <Scott_S> ban123nana: No problem. I would suggest adding Sudo priveleges to the new Admin and removing sudo priveleges to the old one. otherwise, the old user can still do any root commands.
[19:39] <inca> can i install packages on a broken system through a live cd?
[19:39] <danik> scott_s thx alot sir it workde :) <3
[19:40] <danileigh79> inca: no, if the hd is not working, instead, create a liveusb
[19:40] <Scott_S> inca: A Live CD will install applications to memory, if I recall, and therefore changes will not stay on disk. If someone knows how to write those changes to the already install OS, then I guess that would work
[19:40] <Scott_S> danik: Good to hear, come back if you have any more issues.
[19:41] <roasted> Hello! Question. If I want to use rsync over ssh, is there a way I can "save" my ssh key password to fully automate it? Or in order to be fully automated am I to just keep the ssh key without a password?
[19:41] <invader> Anyone else see this -- > http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/373024/canonical-puts-ubuntu-on-android-smartphones
[19:41] <compdoc> canonical is taking over the world!!!
[19:41] <aeon-ltd> no.
[19:41] <Invader> :)
[19:41] <danileigh79> roasted: there's already a way to do this, on android, in market place, called ubuntu installer
[19:42] <danileigh79> invader: there's already a way to do this, on android, in market place, called ubuntu installer
[19:42] <danileigh79> roasted: sorry, meant to send it to invader
[19:42] <roasted> danileigh79: all good :)
[19:42] <Scott_S> invader: That, has got to be one of the coolest things I've seen. Now, I wonder if you could create a mUbuntu, for running Ubuntu 24/7...
[19:42] <roasted> Invader: interesting link....
[19:42] <Invader> danileigh79: Do you need a rooted handset?
[19:43] <bugz000_> Hellop
[19:43] <bugz000_> Hello*
[19:43] <Invader> I have never tired ot looked before
[19:43] <roasted> Invader: I saw a Lenovo laptop doing that a while back, where it was a tablet that docks into a keyboard. Tablet-android, once it docks, Windows 7.
[19:43] <tbrown2012> How can I start Develop ubuntu learn how it work's
[19:43] <danileigh79> Invader: iirc, yes, but I'm not the kind of person who'd do it... my lappy with Ubuntu is just fine for me :)
[19:44] <zolek86> hi, I have a problem, most of my icons vanished from unity (probably when I installed a netbeans plugin to integrate it with unity dock)
[19:44] <Invader> danileigh79: Ah thats ok I love messing with this junk. This is my next project. Linux on a handset for me with give me awesome options
[19:44] <Invader> I work at a gsm company in the US.
[19:44] <zolek86> i tried 'unity --reset-icons' with no luck
[19:44] <Invader> not att or tmobile fyi
[19:44] <danileigh79> Invader: I only got my Android phone last month, was an iPhone girl before that :)
[19:45] <stephans_> any idea how to get wallch to work in 11.10?
[19:45] <Invader> danileigh79: Oh man .. welcome to the android world
[19:45] <danileigh79> Invader: I also worked for several cell companies
[19:46] <tbrown2012> Hey is there anything like virtual basic for coding on ubuntu is there something like it please help
[19:46] <bugz000_> i have a problem with ubuntu + compiz - when i maximise a window - after a while of flipping between screens - the title bar + minimise buttons etc all dissapear - the border too - "compiz --replace" works but is not ideal at all - does anyone know of a solution?
[19:46] <zolek86> also - my shutdown icon vanished completely, so i must reboot/halt my pc from the terminal
[19:46] <danileigh79> Invader: ou do need to realize, it's not a handset with Linux... It's a handset with Android, and once docked, then it becomes linux...
[19:47] <Invader> danileigh79: Correct I would like a full-linux handset one day.
[19:47] <Scott_S> Guys, I believe this can be taken to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[19:47] <Invader> On my old droid It run Debian
[19:47] <stephans_> Invader: try copying all folders that begin with a dot (.) in to a backup folder. Then login again. You new session should be the default Ubuntu session again.
[19:48] <danileigh79> Invader: And you have to have a dockable phone as well... you can run a dual OS phone by installing Ubuntu through market... I haven't tried it, but a friend has and she likes it
[19:48] <burzum2> danileigh79 this just seems to work ok with release like stable and unstable but i cant get a certain version checked out
[19:48] <Berto> Hi - I just got upgraded in 11.10 to Firefox 10.0.2 and lost all of my bookmarks!  And the back button doesn't work either... how do i get my old config bag?
[19:48] <Invader> danileigh79: Interesting. Thanks for the info..
[19:49] <tomek_> hello guys I have a question about setting the default music player
[19:49] <tbrown2012> Berto: Your button is gone on firefox what are you trying to say?
[19:50] <bugz000_> tomek - right click a music file - open with "select program"
[19:50] <bugz000_> in the properties
[19:50] <tomek_> i did all this
[19:50] <Berto> tbrown2012, some update to firefox bombed out my entire installation.  I have no back button that works, my bookmarks are gone, everything!
[19:50] <danileigh79> burzum2: go back to that page I linked you, look for "Introduction to Holding Packages" it's right there
[19:50] <tomek_> the problem is that java Desktop class still opens banshee
[19:50] <Berto> tbrown2012, oh, the back button is grayed out and can't be left-clicked, but it can be right-clicked.  Something's severely wrong with this
[19:50] <Berto> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/936684
[19:51] <Berto> any way to get my old Firefox setup back?  Unroll an update?
[19:51] <danileigh79> burzum2: you will need to install sy6naptic if you don't already have it, I prefer Synaptic over Ubuntu Software Center
[19:51] <bugz000_> i have a problem with ubuntu + compiz - when i maximise a window - after a while of flipping between screens - the title bar + minimise buttons etc all dissapear - the border too - "compiz --replace" works but is not ideal at all - does anyone know of a solution?
[19:52] <burzum2> danileigh79 echo apache2 hold | dpkg --set-selections does not return anything
[19:53] <danileigh79> burzum2: Your best bet is to "sudo apt-get remove <package name>, sudo apt-get autoremove, then find the older version again, once you have the older version (may need to compile it yourself from sources), go into Synaptic, find the app, then lock it
[19:53] <tbrown2012> Berto: I just installed and update on my desktop and there were packects that were deleting from my computer name the files that were delete when you upgrade
[19:53] <malkauns> is there a fix for this annoying google-chrome/unity/compiz bug?: http://imgur.com/vu5am
[19:53] <danileigh79> burzum2: don't worry about trying to do the actual lock/hold inside terminal, Synaptic works best for hold/locking
[19:54] <burzum2> danileigh79 urgh this sounds like a fun task specially to do on a live system... well im trying it in a VM before but this is just a pain
[19:54] <malkauns> ... happens sometimes when a new tab is opened from another page
[19:54] <tomek_> has anyone an idea how to convince java Desktop class to open audio files with another program?
[19:54] <rahul_bansal> how to share limited directories in vsftpd (FTP server)?
[19:54] <burzum2> danileigh79 there is no window manager system installed, no synaptic
[19:54] <tbrown2012> Berto: name the files that were delete when you upgrade to 11.10
[19:55] <danileigh79> burzum2: this is for Ubuntu, correct?
[19:55] <burzum2> danileigh79 correct
[19:55] <danileigh79> burzum2: Gnome, or unity?
[19:55] <Berto> tbrown2012, i don't know.  All of my personal settings are now gone.  This sucks.
[19:56] <burzum2> danileigh79, its the server LTS flavor of it, there is no kde or gnome, not even X
[19:56] <p> hola
[19:56] <Berto> tbrown2012, my firefox profile has some old stuff.  not sure why it's not loading :(
[19:57] <Guest40326> me cambiaron mi nick
[19:57] <Guest40326> hola
[19:57] <danileigh79> burzum2: I'm afraid I don't know how to help you via strictly cli... I'm sorry :(
[19:57] <burzum2> no problem, thanks for trying :)
[19:57] <tbrown2012> Berto: Am trying to think if you system deed not even update firefox and left some files out.
[19:58] <Guest40326> latin american alguien que me entienda??
[19:58] <ikonia> !br | Guest40326
[19:58] <LjL> !es | Guest40326
[19:59] <Guest40326> ok gracias
[19:59] <Guest40326> bye
[19:59] <danileigh79> brb, this girl needs a smoke break
[19:59] <family> anyone here an SQL master?
[20:00] <compdoc> hi yah!
[20:00] <family> can I pm you?
[20:00] <compdoc> well, I only play a master on irc :(
[20:00] <compdoc> good luck!
[20:00] <aeon-ltd> family: they are in #sql and #mysql
[20:00] <family> i tried #sql and i can't post.
[20:01] <tbrown2012> Berto: go to a terminal and type in  cd /usr/local/firefox/  See if they are in there and if you cant find them tell me
[20:01] <aeon-ltd> family: you need to register you nick
[20:01] <family> yeh, ok.. thanks
[20:02] <family> Sorry, how do you do that?
[20:02] <aeon-ltd> !register | family
[20:02] <vigaroux> any channel suggestions for new linux users?
[20:02] <vigaroux> i need some help on a dual boot install
[20:02] <vigaroux> i'm all new to this so
[20:03] <ironhalik> I guess we can help you here
[20:03] <ironhalik> its a general ubuntu support channel
[20:03] <vigaroux> ok, do you know of any decent walkthroughs?
[20:03] <tbrown2012> vigaroux: I will be happy to help you out.
[20:03] <vigaroux> i could start off with that, then jump up if there is a problem
[20:03] <vigaroux> tks tb..
[20:03] <ironhalik> vigaroux, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[20:04] <vigaroux> hopefully i won't be that much of a bother
[20:04] <vigaroux> tks halik
[20:04] <sorin2189> php
[20:04] <vigaroux> i'm using an alternate system for irc, so
[20:05] <vigaroux> ok i don't have a recovery cd available, its xp, i don't care if i lose any data.. its an old system.
[20:05] <vigaroux> can this step be bypassed?
[20:05] <tbrown2012> vigaroux: do you have a 4GB Flash Drive
[20:06] <vigaroux> i do... exactly that size
[20:06] <vigaroux> just bought it for the occasion
[20:06] <ironhalik> vigaroux: generally, you can just install Ubuntu on the drive - just make sure youve got some additional partition for it
[20:06] <ironhalik> ubuntu installer will install grub over windows bootloader, and make sure you can boot into both
[20:07] <yusuo> hi i have a question, i have a 2.5 160gb external usb drive i want to partition 10gb of this and have a live linux on that partition so I can use it on any usb drive, would I install ubuntu to that drive or use something like unetbootin to have it as a live drive, I want it to retain data saved to it
[20:07] <tibo> hi
[20:07] <ironhalik> but be warned, if you manually delate ubuntu partition after that, grub will fail, and youll need to recover windows boot loader manually
[20:07] <tbrown2012> Vigaroux: Go to Ubuntu.com/download and install the .iso file and install the usb program that will help you install are you trying to just install or just run as two computers
[20:07] <tibo> can I send mouse coordinates to /dev/input/eventx to simulate a click on a VNC frame buffer
[20:07] <yusuo> the other 150gb odd i would like as ntfs so its compatible with windows pc's
[20:07] <vigaroux> tbrown; Pm
[20:08] <vigaroux> TBROWN: PM
[20:08] <danik> hello guys i wanted to deny phpmyadmin port on my firewall that nobody access the login page i disbaled apache but phpmyadmin works :// do u know the port of that ? thx
[20:08] <zelrikriando> hello
[20:09] <zelrikriando> I broke the UI packages by mistake
[20:09] <zelrikriando> I cant use gnome-shell anymore
[20:09] <zelrikriando> I tried to reinstall it
[20:09] <dat789> hello
[20:09] <zelrikriando> didnt work
[20:09] <vigaroux> tbrown2012, check your pm
[20:09] <tbrown2012> vigaroux: okay so you dont need a dual boot then go to the ubuntu website and download the iso and install it on you usb and boot it from you computer But I would run a windows cd first to format your drive (HD) so you can get a full experence.
[20:10] <zelrikriando> is there a meta package that will install gnome
[20:10] <zelrikriando> gnome+ gnome shell etc
[20:10] <zykotick9> !notunity | zelrikriando
[20:11] <zelrikriando> zykotick9: I had gnome shell installed already
[20:11] <ironhalik> I would love Unity if it had the same alt+tab behavior as gnome shell :)
[20:11] <zelrikriando> I tried to install an unstable version, but I think I uninstalled critical packages by mistake
[20:11] <zykotick9> zelrikriando: was just answering your "is there a meta package that will install gnome" question
[20:12] <tbrown2012> Zelrikriando: Go to the Ubuntu software center and search for GNOME Shell and install it and login to the gnome and your done that easy
[20:12] <zelrikriando> I did sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[20:12] <zelrikriando> it s there
[20:12] <zelrikriando> it just doesnt work
[20:14] <zelrikriando> I cant even install gnome-core
[20:14] <Laurenceb_> hi
[20:14] <Laurenceb_> im trying this: http://www.mail-archive.com/haproxy@formilux.org/msg06137.html
[20:15] <tbrown2012> zelrikriando: deed it install it but you cant login to it is that the problem
[20:15] <zelrikriando> "unable to correct problem, you have held broken packages"
[20:15] <Laurenceb_> 4 out of 4 hunks FAILED at step 3
[20:15] <zelrikriando> tbrown2012: yes, I thought it was missing packages, but I think something is broken
[20:16] <yusuo> hi i have a question, i have a 2.5 160gb external usb drive i want to partition 10gb of this and have a live linux on that partition so I can use it on anypc that boots via usb, would I install ubuntu to that drive or use something like unetbootin to have it as a live drive, I want it to retain data saved to it
[20:16] <zykotick9> zelrikriando: if you have broken packages you could try "sudo apt-get -f install" as a general fix
[20:16] <tbrown2012> Just go to the ubuntu software center and install it from there
[20:17] <mileon> zelrikriando: zykotick has right, but use synaptic
[20:17] <tbrown2012> Zelrikriando: just go to the ubuntu software center and install it from there.
[20:17] <ska> I have a fix to the LatexLive Envlab style sheet for printing envelopes in Ubuntu. I'm not sure where to send it.
[20:17] <zelrikriando> for that I need an UI
[20:18] <Laurenceb_> can someone here help me install libssl 1.0.0 on lucid?
[20:18] <mileon> zelrikriando: use synaptic
[20:18] <Laurenceb_> i need to get this running asap
[20:18] <Laurenceb_> been two days now
[20:18] <mileon> zelrikriando: in synaptic is a menu with repair packages
[20:18] <Laurenceb_> http://www.mail-archive.com/haproxy@formilux.org/msg06137.html
[20:18] <Laurenceb_> does that look sane?
[20:18] <tbrown2012> Zelrikriando:so you dont have a User INterface are you using Ubuntu Server Am kind of confused
[20:18] <Bahaman> Hi im new to ubuntu/linux and I'm wondering how people actually know all the things. For example to download chromium you can simply type apt-get install chromium or something similar to it but anyways, how do people know that it's not chromium123
[20:18] <nsd> ActionParsnip: I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I can't seem to get the ethernet module to blacklist. I found the module name with lspci -k and added "blacklist e100" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but after rebooting the module is evidently still being loaded (given the output of lsmod). I see that the module 'mii' is used by e100, do I need to blacklist that too or something?
[20:19] <Laurenceb_> 4 out of 4 hunks FAILED at step 3
[20:19] <zelrikriando> tbrown2012: my UI is all broken, that is the issue
[20:19] <malkauns> is there a video converter that does GPU encoding?
[20:19] <ska> Has anyone tried the Envlab package in LatexLive?
[20:19] <aeon-ltd> Bahaman: because package names? one package one name there are no crossovers in the repo
[20:19] <trever420> zelrikriando, u messed with your xorg didnt you?
[20:19] <tbrown2012> Zelrikriando: so just install sudo apt-get install xfce4
[20:19] <zelrikriando> trever420: I messed with some critical packages
[20:20] <Bahaman> aeon-ltd: Im not sure I understand :(
[20:20] <aeon-ltd> Bahaman: are you saying how does ubuntu find chromium when you type apt-get install chromium
[20:20] <zelrikriando> tbrown2012: ok gonna try to install kde
[20:20] <nsd> Oh evidently ActionParsnip is not here? Anyone else know?
[20:20] <aeon-ltd> ?
[20:20] <tbrown2012> Zelrikriando: Good luck:)
[20:20] <Bahaman> aeon-ltd: Yes & how do you know that you have to type chromium
[20:21] <Bahaman> Where do you get that information from
[20:21] <aeon-ltd> Bahaman: because that's its name in the  repository
[20:21] <aeon-ltd> Bahaman: apt-get calls it from a server then the server fills in information like version numbers
[20:22] <tbrown2012> Bahaman: I was wondering why you talking about chromium See I have chrome on my ubuntu 11.10 do you want to get that insted
[20:22] <ska> I need someone to test envlab for me.
[20:22] <nsd> Anyone know why adding a module to the blacklist file would result in it still being loaded?
[20:22] <aeon-ltd> nsd: file isn't being read, or hasn't been re-read yet?
[20:22] <Laurenceb_> isnt there just a *.deb i can download somewhere?
[20:23] <tbrown2012> Laurenceb_: what are you trying to download man:)
[20:23] <Laurenceb_> libssl1.0.0
[20:23] <Laurenceb_> on lucid
[20:23] <nsd> aeon-ltd: You mean there might be a reason that /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf just isn't being read? Is there some way I could find out if that is the case? I'm blacklisting an ethernet driver because the device is causing problems, but perhaps instead there is a way to configure that device so it's never brought up?
[20:23] <Bahaman> aeon-ltd: Thanks :) Just one last thing, those repositories where would you usually see or find them.
[20:24] <nsd> aeon-ltd: Like perhaps is there a way to use /etc/network/interfaces to disable an ethernet device?
[20:24] <jufostnl> ‎I am got Segmentation fault when i want to remove polipo user
[20:25] <Laurenceb_> can anyone help me please?
[20:25] <tbrown2012> Laurenceb: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libssl1.0.0
[20:25] <aeon-ltd> Bahaman: info here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu , servers are set depending on your location, e.g. you live in the US you will use US servers
[20:25] <Bahaman> aeon-ltd: Appreciated, thanks for your help:)!
[20:25] <aeon-ltd> nsd: if you can just disable it in the BIOS then it's off for sure
[20:26] <nsd> aeon-ltd: I don't think this machine's BIOs supports that
[20:26] <nsd> I'll give that a try if there is no other way though
[20:27] <nsd> aeon-ltd: Perhaps I could instead set up the routing table so that eth0 is not used?
[20:27] <Laurenceb_> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: multiarch-support
[20:27] <Laurenceb_> but thats for trying
[20:27] <Laurenceb_> how can i do this?
[20:27] <aeon-ltd> nsd: no idea, i've never done it that way
[20:27] <tbrown2012> can someone tell me if there is a way that you can start coding for ubuntu is there any like any programs that I can code on beacuse there is like on windows visual basic but I deed not know if there would be anything different on ubuntu if there is not how can I install Visual Basic on Ubuntu 11.10
[20:28] <shade34331> ikonia: tbrown2012, you want to code in general or code in the development of Ubuntu?
[20:28] <Antares> tbrown2012, which languages?
[20:28] <shade34331> no idea why it said ikonia
[20:28] <shade34331> lol
[20:28] <ikonia> shade34331: what ?
[20:29] <shade34331> must of typed it earlier and didn't realize it...sorry
[20:29] <tbrown2012> Shade34331: Yes I want to Develop new Ideas if that even possible learn the lanuge of it is it possible.
[20:29] <DawnLight> hey. my me "me menu" or session menu is missing. I don't remember what I've done in the past to remove it :( oneiric
[20:30] <aeon-ltd> tbrown2012: learn C
[20:30] <Antares> tbrown2012, Code::Blocks can be used to develop C and C++; Eclipse can be used to develop Java -- both are available in the Software Center.
[20:30] <Antares> You will need to install g++ in order to compile C++ programs (sudo apt-get install g++).
[20:30] <shade34331> tbrown2012: i'm not sure how experienced you are with coding but personally I'd do what Antares just said...or learn python:)
[20:30] <jiffe98> with 11.10 running on vmware is it possible to add memory on the fly now?
[20:31] <Invader> jiffe98: ESX?
[20:31] <computerx> Hi, I want to apply separate rate limiting for different sets of ports, so hitting the rate limit on one won't affect the other... How would I do that?
[20:31] <computerx> in iptables* ofc
[20:31] <Antares> Python is a good language to learn as well, but I'm disappointed by the IDE offerings for it on Linux, to be honest.
[20:31] <jiffe98> Invader: yes
[20:32] <qo_op> Hi! i got a problem whit my ubuntu 11.10 my HDMI sound laggs, and stuff
[20:32] <computerx> Antares: What about Komodo?
[20:32] <tbrown2012> Antares: Shade34331: Just I know there is alot about coding what I should expited of it but I want to learn it and come into ubuntu family for new idea and help them on the way I want my dream to come true. But can I install Visual Basic in the software center???
[20:32] <Invader> jiffe98: Nope
[20:32] <shade34331> Antares: I'm not sure what is up there I just know it's a decent language to have in your arsenal
[20:32] <Invader> jiffe98: in HyperV yes
[20:32] <Antares> computerx, Komodo Edit is essentially a polished Scite editor. It's decent for small projects, but an IDE really helps with huge code bases.
[20:33] <Invader> You can add disk space just not ram or cards
[20:33] <Antares> tbrown2012, I think there is a BASIC language that's available, let me check the SC.
[20:33] <computerx> Antares: I guess, though it does have pretty good python support. I don't know Edit very well because I bought the IDE version...
[20:33] <Invader> plus the os needs to support hot-swap
[20:33] <Invader> for things like ram pci cards etc etc
[20:33] <aeon-ltd> semi-unrelated but in vbox you can shutdown and change ram iirc, but not on the fly while the system is on
[20:33] <RageAgainstTheAm> uoıʇɐןsuɐɹʇ uɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ uı ʞɔnʇs ɯı puɐ uǝʞoɹq sı ɔɹı ʎɯ dןǝɥ
[20:34] <Antares> Ah, the IDE has much more to offer, computerx. I would agree with you that it is more than adequate, but of course, it's not free. ;)
[20:34] <aeon-ltd> RageAgainstTheAm: nice trolling
[20:34] <RageAgainstTheAm> sǝɥɔʇıʍpuɐs ǝʇıɯǝƃǝɹ ɹoɟ ǝʇsɐʇ ɐ ƃuıdoןǝʌǝp ɯı ¡ʞɔınb dןǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos
[20:34] <shade34331> is latex offered in ubuntu on standard install
[20:34] <Laurenceb_> ok im going to ask for some serious help here
[20:35] <tbrown2012> RageAgainstTHEAM: we dont speack upside down in this chat room lol you funny
[20:35] <computerx> Antares: I have to admit, I feel a bit odd running proprietary paid software on a free OS ;)
[20:35] <Laurenceb_> can someone grab me an i386 copy of libssl.so-1.0.0 ?
[20:35] <Antares> tbrown2012, you can try out gambas, but you have to understand that Visual Basic is simply not cross-platform.
[20:36] <Antares> I also know that FreeBASIC runs on Linux and Windows, but it is not in the Software Center.
[20:36] <Antares> Microsoft gains nothing from making Visual Basic available for Linux, so it doesn't do that.
[20:36] <tbrown2012> Comptuerx: I know right free OS like in the long run they would take over the would lol have you seen spongbob when planten sold crappy patties and he role everyone lol that what I remeber on that show lol
[20:36] <computerx> So, can I run two separately managed ratelimited iptables rules?
[20:37] <jufostnl> ‎I am got Segmentation fault when i want to remove polipo user
[20:38] <computerx> How are you removing it?
[20:39] <tbrown2012> Antares: Thank you
[20:41] <Antares> tbrown2012, FreeBASIC can be downloaded as a .run file, which you can simply run in the terminal as sudo sh [filename].run
[20:42] <tbrown2012> it taken along time for the installion Antares:
[20:42] <Antares> (freebasic.net is the official website, although it doesn't seem to be up very high on the list on a Google search)
[20:44] <jiffe98> yeah, hot memory add doesn't seem to work
[20:44] <jiffe98> bummer
[20:45] <tbrown2012> How can I install the appication that would not install when I type in SUDO APT-GET Upgrade It told me that I had to run this command to contanue I was wondering what is that command called
[20:45] <JetJaguar> Is there anything like CPUID for lLinux?
[20:45] <Antares> Are you sure it was upgrade instead of update?
[20:46] <Pikkachu> what's an easy way to know what apps I've installed since Ubuntu fresh installation?
[20:46] <tbrown2012> I think it was upgrade but it could of been update but I ran it and then it went but when I tryed sudo apt-get upgrade it told me to type in this command but I was wondering what it was lol
[20:47] <Antares> I typed it in and it offered to install the packages that were offered in Software Update. I suppose it might also try to upgrade your version if you're below 11.10
[20:48] <RobertoGiacobbo> http://www.vpopulus.net/referrer/11850
[20:49] <JetJaguar> Your organization has chosen to limit viewing of this site (http://www.vpopulus.net/referrer/11850), due to the rating of its content (social networking/dating).
[20:49] <JetJaguar> Argh
[20:50] <phil__> hey there i got some strange problem and i don't know where to look for a solution. I try to execute a program with ./progname, it has chmod u+x set. bash tells me: No such file or directory
[20:50] <phil__> what could possibly be wrong?
[20:50] <JetJaguar> Pikkachu: That's a difficult question since there are a lot of different ways to do a "fresh install"
[20:50] <tbrown2012> Antares: When I try to update it it's says that E: Unable to lock dicectory /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[20:50] <melodie> phil__, try "chmod a+x program"
[20:50] <melodie> u is for user, a is for all
[20:50] <Antares> tbrown2012, are you using sudo in front of it?
[20:51] <zykotick9> phil__: are you trying to use a 32bit binary on a 64bit system?
[20:51] <phil__> zykotick9: yes
[20:51] <JetJaguar> Pikkachu: Your "fresh install" may include apps that others don't choose to install.
[20:51] <zykotick9> phil__: in the old days, i'd suggest installing ia32libs but on multiarch - i don't know how it works.
[20:51] <tbrown2012> Antares: yes when I try to type in SU and the password it says SU: Authentication Failure
[20:52] <zykotick9> tbrown2012: sudo lowercase
[20:52] <blud> when i do xrandr i see a few resolutions for my tv but not the actual native resolution of the tv.. can i still force it to use the correct tv resolution??
[20:53] <tbrown2012> Zykotick9: Antares: Yes I know I deed it in NONCAP so it still deed not work
[20:53] <zykotick9> tbrown2012: as an example, "sudo apt-get update"
[20:53] <johnbuntu>  can I apt-get purge sudo? id like to really lock down the distro on this machine
[20:54] <om4rezz> try to do it using map instead of looping through new lines '\n'
[20:54] <om4rezz> sorry wrong window
[20:54] <phil__> zykotick9: thats a 75 MB dl? can it be?
[20:54] <zykotick9> phil__: are you on 11.10?
[20:54] <phil__> yes
[20:55] <blud> you know how it shows LVDS1 and VGA1, is LVDS1 my laptop monitor and VGA1 my tv?
[20:55] <tbrown2012> zykotick9: Yes sudo apt-get update does not work is says " E: unable to lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[20:55] <bellman> johnbuntu: yes you can purge sudo.  i run Debian and I don't even have sudo.  I believe you would want a remove, not purge
[20:55] <zykotick9> phil__: i can't say then - be careful, my suggestion is perhaps outdated on your version
[20:56] <JetJaguar> Debian doesn't have sudo?
[20:56] <zykotick9> tbrown2012: do you have an UbuntuSoftwareCernter / UpdateManager / or other apt-get running?  only one of those at a time can run.
[20:56] <johnbuntu> bellman: I want to also get rid of any sudo file like visudoers
[20:56] <zykotick9> JetJaguar: Ubuntu is not Debian
[20:56] <oCean> johnbuntu: so you think removing sudo and enabling the root password is locking down a machine?
[20:56] <JetJaguar> Yeah, I know.
[20:56] <johnbuntu> oCean: no i dont want a root password either
[20:56] <zykotick9> JetJaguar: but by default, no debian doesn't come with sudo
[20:56] <bellman> Debian does not have sudo by default.. you can apt-get install sudo if you so choose
[20:57] <oCean> johnbuntu: err.. and never be able to perform administrative tasks?
[20:57] <johnbuntu> oCean: i want it to be like a prerooted android
[20:57] <tbrown2012> zykotick9: lol see if I new that I would not have a problem lol I was installing something in software center and it still running and I forgot all about that lol Thank you
[20:58] <raven20> So i am rather new to ubuntu. Does anyone know how to make it as efficient as possible. I just installed it on my laptop.
[20:58] <bellman> make sure you are done configuring and administering your system first.  you can try unattended-upgrades.  then you wont need to sudo again
[20:58] <JetJaguar> Hmmmm.  #! must have put it in their distro.
[20:58] <oCean> johnbuntu: uh, what?
[20:58] <tbrown2012> Raven20: what are you looking for in ubuntu or a new OS System
[20:58] <monsterripper> ..
[20:58] <zykotick9> johnbuntu: do you actually expect people to help you break your system?
[20:59] <Antares> raven20, you can check out System Monitor and see that Ubuntu is fairly light, at least in comparison to Windows.
[20:59] <raven20> Well with windows my laptop was horrid. My boyfriend just installed ubuntu on my system and i just want to optomise it.
[20:59] <johnbuntu> bellman: there will be a point when I can no longer upgrade my ubuntu 9.04 when i hit that point id like to lock it down, forever
[20:59] <pixelman> hello everybody, I would like to change my configurations of my ubuntu desktop how do?
[20:59] <bellman> raven:20  switch to xubuntu, linux mint debian edition, or debian with xfce
[20:59] <Antares> raven20, I am currently using 440 mb of memory with XChat and Firefox open. I am using Unity 2D desktop environment.
[20:59] <JetJaguar> bellman: Good answer.
[21:00] <oCean> JetJaguar: bellman good answer to what question?
[21:00] <JetJaguar> To raven's question
[21:00] <tbrown2012> Raven20 if your boy friend just deed a clean install of ubuntu meaning that if he put the windows 7 disk or which ever windows disk you have to delete the driver HD you computer would be alot more faster and the use of RAM tells the truth to so deed he just install it or deed he to a clean install
[21:01] <Antares> Haha, what?
[21:01] <zykotick9> tbrown2012: s/deed/did/
[21:01] <raven20> He just installed it from the usb.  Windows was almost broken by the time he did and we didnt have the disk
[21:02] <raven20> But there should not be any partitions. It was a full hard drive installation/
[21:02] <tbrown2012> Raven20: Oh dear do you have a usb 4gb or 8gb
[21:03] <raven20> Its a 4gb
[21:03] <tbrown2012> Raven20: USB right
[21:03] <raven20> Yeah
[21:03] <JetJaguar> raven20: Is your system running slow or something?
[21:04] <raven20> Yeah. It seems to not want to run internet etc. Keeps laggin and freezing up. I mean we just finished the updates thismorning
[21:04] <JetJaguar> Because Ubuntu is pretty efficient right out of the box.
[21:04] <JetJaguar> How old is this laptop?
[21:04] <raven20> Thats what my boyfriend said
[21:04] <raven20> 6 months. tops
[21:05] <tbrown2012> Raven20: let me look up the windows 7 iso image for you and you can download it and format your USB drive and then boot that and delete the hard drive and you should run windows back to normal do you want me to help you with that
[21:05] <JetJaguar> What version of Ubuntu was installed.
[21:05] <raven20> I want Ubuntu. I dont like windows. And the version of ubuntu is the 64bit 11.01 i think
[21:06] <melodie> good night
[21:06] <bellman> johnbuntu:  I think you need to do a wildcard pin, so that every package is pinned
[21:06] <JetJaguar> raven20: Do you know what video card is in that laptop?
[21:06] <Antares> raven20, have you installed any drivers offered to you by Additional Drivers?
[21:06] <raven20> All the drivers and updates that it asked for.
[21:06] <Oer> tbrown2012, we do not support downloading windows iso's, that would be illegal.
[21:06] <raven20> and no i dont remember my video card
[21:06] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: include what apps? from what I've seen from oneiric, the only option you have is a check for some proprietary MP3 package
[21:07] <tbrown2012> Raven20: Okay if you just want to run ubuntu and have  a clean install just find a windows cd and delete the hard drive and install ubuntu to the way it was
[21:07] <Antares> raven20, go to System Settings and open System Info.
[21:07] <Stelpa> hello, uh, i have an odd request; could someone help me make a script? its a bit hackish, but i think it should be easy, i just dunno how to make scripts :x
[21:07] <JetJaguar> Pikkachu: So when you installed you just did a default install?  You didn't manually choose applications to install?
[21:07] <raven20> What do you mean delete the hard drive? Isn't there a way to do that without having to reinstall ubuntu a thrid time
[21:08] <raven20> Antares it says driverunknown and experiance standard
[21:08] <mykhi> hey guys im having problem with mplayer surround sond ([AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: open '/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p' failed (-16): Device or resource busy). it only happens when i have chrome on some page that requires sound like YT.
[21:08] <johnbuntu> zykotick9: you say break, and I say improve. I have a nas box that root doesnt exist on and it works perfect
[21:08] <tbrown2012> Oer: Yes But you can get Windows 7 Enterprise for 60day trail for free user so it not illage you should read up on your computer skills and tell me more about what is non elgel or what is.
[21:08] <kurtwp_> raven20, can you provide the hardware specs of you laptop
[21:09] <johnbuntu> zykotick9: ReadyNAS has no root
[21:09] <johnbuntu> bellman: I think you are right an apt-get remove sudo might accomplish what i need
[21:09] <johnbuntu> bellman: what would wild card pinning offer me?
[21:09] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: does Oneiric allow you to pikc up random apps to install? I didn't see that option
[21:09] <raven20> mem 3.8 gb ram. Processor intel core i3 2.10 ghz*4 Grphics unknown  os type 64 bit disk 488.1gb
[21:09] <zykotick9> johnbuntu: i don't use sudo myself (but i don't use ubuntu), but without sudo or root - there is no management of the system... broken
[21:10] <bellman> johnbuntu: it would protect every package from destablizing changes
[21:10] <cdj> does anyone know how to hide chrome's min/max/close buttons?
[21:10] <JetJaguar> Pikkachu: The standard installer doesn't.  I just installs a predefined group of applications.
[21:10] <johnbuntu> bellman 1 zykotick9 0
[21:10] <cdj> they're already on the global menu, seems redundant to have them next to the tabs too...
[21:10] <Antares> raven20, the graphics unknown part is troubling. Is System Settings --> Additional Drivers, there's nothing available correct?
[21:10] <bellman> you can always bootup into single user mode from GRUB for those cases where administration is required
[21:11] <raven20> Antares correct
[21:11] <johnbuntu> bellman: the goal is to lock down tighter then a waterproof iphone
[21:11] <Jaxidian> Hey, anybody know details about the new Ubuntu/Android thing? I'm specifically curious why USB Host is required...
[21:11] <tbrown2012> EVERONE: I just got done download GAMBAS2.22 and I can start to learn the lanuage of ubuntu and then probley help and show some designs what I have in mind YAAA.
[21:11] <qo_op> Hi i got a problem whit my HDMI port, when i connect it to tv, the  sound is delaying and lagging whit an ecco :/
[21:11] <jimmy_birer> smoke weed errday
[21:11] <Stelpa> sorry, disconnected :X
[21:11] <blud> is LVDS1 the laptop screen and VGA1 the tv?
[21:11] <bellman> in fact this mode of operation encourages a User mentality.  yeah johnbuntu that is a good comparison.. iphone users dont have to worry about administration
[21:11] <Antares> cdj, right click in the open space near the buttons and press use system buttons or some such.
[21:11] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: I didn't know there were other official installers, I couldn't notice them on the download page. Where are them and what are their purpose?
[21:12] <Stelpa> hello, uh, i have an odd request; could someone help me make a script? its a bit hackish, but i think it should be easy, i just dunno how to make scripts :x
[21:12] <Stelpa> i need a script that creates/deletes an empty file on a hard drive every 20 seconds while it's mounted
[21:12] <cdj> Antares, awesome thanks :)
[21:12] <Stelpa> could anyone please help? :x
[21:12] <Antares> You're welcome. :)
[21:12] <cdj> one more question, xchat icon looks horrid in the dash
[21:12] <JetJaguar> Pikkachu: For advanced users or for those that was a server rather than a desktop.
[21:12] <cdj> should I be using xchat-gnome maybe?
[21:12] <bellman> johnbuntu:  do you have tendencies to sudo apt get upgrade  after having a few drinks?
[21:13] <JetJaguar> lol
[21:13] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: ok, it's not hard even in that case
[21:13] <tbrown2012> Antares: I said thank you the first time when you pointed it out to me I dont think you got that message.
[21:13] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: it's just about knowing which non-default stuff was installed even if during system install
[21:13] <blud> im having trouble getting the correct aspect ratio on my vga out to TV
[21:14] <cdj> nvm, figured it out
[21:14] <cdj> brb
[21:14] <johnbuntu> bellman: its crontab'd
[21:14] <JetJaguar> Pikkachu: You may be able to look at the list of apps installed by default and compare to what you have installed.
[21:14] <Antares> tbrown2012, I was probably busy multitasking. :P A late you're welcome for you. :)
[21:14] <bellman> crontabbing apt get upgrade is not a good practice... it's better to install cron-apt
[21:15] <JetJaguar> Pikkachu: Pretty sure the apps installed by default are available in the read me or in the documentation somewhere.
[21:15] <bellman> but the best solution is to decide at which point no further innovation is possible  and lock the system down tight
[21:15] <johnbuntu> zykotick9: the idea is to lock down the system so even I cannot make changes
[21:16] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: I could play with apt history but it's boring... I could keep myself some history, I could  add some function like install { sudo apt-get install "$@" && add-to-install-history }... but I wanted a ready-to-use solution
[21:16] <JetJaguar> johnbuntu: Maybe save your system as a Virtual disk?
[21:16] <tbrown2012> Antares: I tryed to run a sudo apt-get upgrade but it said that the following packages have been kept back: Linux-Generic Linux-headers- genric linux- 0 upgraded 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded help please
[21:17] <JetJaguar> Pikkachu: I don't know of anything like that.  Someone else may though.
[21:17] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: as for standard apps listed somewhere I'm not so sure, it would rather be a deb package list and comparing it to current installed packages would not give the apps since they may consist on several dependencies
[21:17] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: thanks anyway Jet
[21:18] <bellman> I noticed a lot of Ubuntu development has focused on tablets... my question is is there, or will there ever be, a tablet capable of running ubuntu?
[21:18] <tbrown2012> Antares: I tryed to run a sudo apt-get upgrade but it said that the following packages have been kept back: Linux-Generic Linux-headers- genric linux- 0 upgraded 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded help please
[21:18] <blud> are the resolution modes reported by xrandr the only ones i can use or can i get it to add more? (since it's not listing the actual native resolution of my tv)
[21:18] <johnbuntu> JetJaguar: this will be a disk that needs to be running, i have it running on an old P3 processor
[21:18] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: if I had time I'd just write some gui for that function or maybe patching software center or synaptic, it would be really nice to have something similar to the add/remove panel from windows
[21:18] <JetJaguar> Pikkachu: Well Ubuntu doesn't "officially" use DEB anymore I think.  It CAN use them but It officially uses the Software Center now.
[21:18] <tbrown2012> Antares: I tryed to run a sudo apt-get upgrade but it said that the following packages have been kept back: Linux-Generic Linux-headers- genric linux- 0 upgraded 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded help please
[21:18] <jimmy_birer> bellman: it already exists,see samsung Galaxy Tab and about all android devices
[21:19] <LjL> JetJaguar: uh, the software center is just an interface to APT, which uses .deb files
[21:19] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: what do you exactly mean with 'DEB'?
[21:19] <johnbuntu> bellman: there is a device that is being workded on that will be running KDE
[21:19] <zykotick9> tbrown2012: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will install everything available
[21:19] <Pikkachu> LjL: yeah hence my question @@ Btw hi LjL
[21:20] <johnbuntu> bellman: the price is sure to be far above that of a compatible android
[21:20] <tbrown2012> zykotick9: Thank you really much
[21:20] <bellman> ubuntu can slice away the galaxy tab's drm?
[21:21] <txrx> I had to swap motherboards and now my ethernet interfaces are numbered differently and it's making things not work. Where do I configure what interface gets assigned to what device name?
[21:22] <zykotick9> txrx: it's a udev thing, but i don't know the details or fix.  good luck.
[21:22] <tbrown2012> Hey everyone I just installed windows 7 on ubuntu on virtual machine called virtual box and I was wondering if I have an amd processor How can I get aero to work on the VM please help
[21:22] <JetJaguar> Pikkachu:  Well, I know there is some kind of difference between the package managers for Ubuntu and Debian.
[21:23] <JetJaguar> Debian uses Synaptic which is based on Aptitude isn't it?
[21:23] <txrx> tbrown2012, aero requires 3D acceleration, which is really tricky (mostly impossible) to get working under virtualization
[21:23] <jimmy_birer> JetJaguar: yes sir.
[21:23] <bellman> actually  3d accel works.  you need to reboot into safe mode in the guest  and install virtual machine additions, checking the box for 3d acceleration
[21:23] <JetJaguar> Whereas Ubuntu uses Software Center which is based on apt
[21:23] <blud> i have a 16:9 tv but ubuntu is sending it a 4:3 signal, what do i do
[21:23] <bellman> in vmware the safe mode step is not required
[21:24] <bellman> virtualbox requires it for some reason
[21:24] <zykotick9> JetJaguar: apt-get and aptitude both just use dpkg for install - they're more or less the same between ubuntu/debian
[21:24] <bluse7en> @txrx you can try edit /etc/networking/interfaces.conf
[21:24] <hacked_kernel> Is it possible to control a laptop camera led light and turn it off while the camera is working?
[21:24] <tbrown2012> txrx: Thank you but is there a way to get it to run it tells me to go in to the safe mode to install 3D accelaration But it goes so fast so I cant load safemode on am going to try again
[21:24] <BillShut> hi I just installed Biebian linux and I need to upgrade my wallpapers how can I do that?
[21:24] <txrx> tbrown2012, first put a period in between sentences.
[21:24] <zykotick9> JetJaguar: it's the package contents that are actually different
[21:24] <JetJaguar> zykotick9: All I know is that if you use one to install the other won't know about it.  I think.
[21:25] <sveinse> What is the correct way in ubuntu to take down a network interface, modify its config, and take it up again?  service networking stop ?
[21:25] <rockband> anyone got idea about this on latest ubuntu:   my mouse suddenly stops working and need to logout to fix
[21:25] <bellman> tbrown2012:  yes  you need to go into safe mode.  try tapping f8 as it boots.
[21:25] <zykotick9> JetJaguar: incorrect actually
[21:25] <JetJaguar> Crap
[21:25] <zykotick9> ;)
[21:25] <txrx> tbrown2012, second, installing drivers for 3D acceleration is not going to be possible, because of the way virtualization works.
[21:25] <LjL> JetJaguar: no, Synaptic is not based on aptitude
[21:25] <gordon1234> tbrown2012, if you have aptitude, try "aptitude safe-upgrade"
[21:26] <Seryth> Hey guys, I've just got a new printer, a Canon IP4200. I've installed the drivers, and it shows up in LibreOffice, but when I hit print, nothing happens? There is paper loaded and everything...
[21:26] <bellman> txrx:   actually, 3d accelleration most definitely is possible with a windows guest, in both vmware and virtualbox
[21:26] <blud> Biebian linux eh...  that somehting to do with justin beiber?
[21:26] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: what package managers? apt? aptitude? synaptic? software center?
[21:26] <tbrown2012> Bellman: I will try that idea again because when I loaded virtual box up it deed not give me time to push f8 to get into safe mode lol
[21:26] <hacked_kernel> Is it possible to control a laptop camera led light and turn it off while the camera is working? someone hacked to my computer
[21:26] <txrx> bellman, it is? Hmm... news to me!
[21:26] <JetJaguar> Well, if you are looking for something LIKE the "Add/Remove Programs" control in Windows either one of those package managers can be used.
[21:27] <bellman> sure is.  that's what I use to run milkdrop when i'm not feeling projectM.  i just wish xorg would tear less
[21:27] <blud> hacked_kernel: i have to assume that yeah it's possible..
[21:27] <BillShut> blud: yes its amazing, the sound themes are clips of my favorite songs
[21:27] <LjL> BillShut: we only support Ubuntu here.
[21:27] <blud> BillShut: lol
[21:27] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: what just happened is that they just wrote software center as alternative to synaptic and removed this one from oneiric as installed by default
[21:27] <JetJaguar> I know you can setup custom filters in Synaptic so you could filter everything installed after the base system was installed.
[21:27] <teknoid> hello evryone
[21:27] <astro5> i bought a laptop without a webcam/mic so i dont have to worry about hackers spying on me via webcam
[21:28] <JetJaguar> astro5: Good idea.
[21:28] <bellman> tbrown2012:  just keep trying.. it works
[21:28] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: I've seen the (btw buggy) filter dialog of synaptic, never seen a way to create such a filter though
[21:28] <teknoid> i installed ubuntu 11.10 2days ago and i still trying to install alfa awus036nhr driver but can't
[21:28] <blud> i used to have a webcam that had a lens cover slide thing, now it boggles my mind that most webcams have no cover like that
[21:29] <BillShut> LjL: the beibian channel is empty
[21:29] <JetJaguar> Pikkachu: Just a suggestion.
[21:29] <teknoid> the drivers for chipset rtl8192ru  on alfa and realtek pages works for kernel 2.6.x  and 3.0.2
[21:30] <bellman> BillShut: please try #debian  as that is a closer distro
[21:30] <graft> blud: how else can you unwittingly spy on high school kids etc.?
[21:30] <raven20> Does anyone have any ideas for getting a video card to be recognised by my system
[21:30] <teknoid> but my ubuntu have 3.0.0 generic
[21:30] <sveinse> How do you take down all network interfaces gracefully (i.e. release leases and such) in ubuntu?
[21:30] <blud> graft: yup...
[21:30] <teknoid> cane someone help me please?
[21:30] <LjL> bellman: they only support Debian in #debian as well, i'm afraid.
[21:30] <raven20> Or perhaps just general system fixing
[21:30] <tbrown2012> Bellman is it clr f8 to get the safe mode to work or something else because when I push on f8 it just shows me setting in my bast computer
[21:30] <malkauns> is there a video converter that does GPU encoding?
[21:31] <JetJaguar> malkauns: Not for Linux I don't think.
[21:31] <malkauns> damnit!!
[21:31] <raven20> Anyone at all know how to make your graphics card work properly
[21:31] <raven20> ?
[21:31] <tbrown2012> Bellman is it clr f8 to get the safe mode to work or something else because when I push on f8 it just shows me setting in my bast computer
[21:31] <malkauns> raven20, that depends what
[21:31] <blud> anybody help with this tv issue im having?  i want to set the proper resolution...
[21:31] <malkauns> ... is wrong with it
[21:31] <bellman> it was F8 in XP.  try clicking inside the VM as it's booting  so that the focus is in the guest
[21:31] <bellman> before pressing f8
[21:32] <raven20> Well my graphics card is not recognised by my system
[21:32] <JetJaguar> raven20: Yeah, there is an issue with the latest Ubuntu and certain graphics cards.
[21:32] <raven20> not to mention that ubuntu seems to be running slower than it should
[21:32] <JetJaguar> Well not with Ubuntu but with Gnome
[21:33] <Antares> JetJaguar, it's probably the Intel HD 3000, but I have no idea how to get it recognized.
[21:33] <raven20> So i am just s.o.l?
[21:33] <radiaz> Hellooooooooooo!!!
[21:33] <radiaz> dddd
[21:33] <JetJaguar> Antares: Have her log into the 2D interface
[21:33] <radiaz> dbforge
[21:33] <raven20> I tried sudo already
[21:34] <blud> problem i have is that when i do xrandr the modes i see for my tv don't include the native resolution of the tv
[21:34] <blud> am i just stuck with those modes?
[21:34] <Antares> raven20, I'll send you a few PMs.
[21:34] <simka> hi
[21:34] <raven20> ok
[21:35] <gordon1234> tbrown2012, I had some issues with 3D on a virtual XP machince, resolved buy using Oracle VirtualBox (not the OSE) + installing Extension Pack + Installing Guest Additions.
[21:36] <JetJaguar> VirtualBox is the bombbad
[21:36] <teknoid> can someone help me with alfa awus036nhr wifi usb adapter?
[21:36] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: ok, but from what I've seen it's not possible :(
[21:37] <BillShut> LjL: I tried $sudo justin-get install wallpaper, but it says it cannot reach the repository
[21:37] <radiaz> !list
[21:37] <tbrown2012> gordon1234: Yes that what am trying to do but my virutal machine is not coming back on will virutal box it like broken or something not really shew  what going on but I cant get into safemode to install the guest additions
[21:37] <JetJaguar> Pikkachu: Well, looks like you may just have to roll your own then.  :|
[21:37] <LjL> BillShut: i don't care. this is for Ubuntu. your distribution (if it even exists) is not supported, so don't ask here.
[21:37] <blud> dont feed the trolls
[21:38] <teknoid> help with alfa awus036nhr on ubuntu 11.10????
[21:38] <JetJaguar> justin-get?
[21:38] <bellman> beibian...what a joke  what a waste of time
[21:38] <teknoid> can someone help me?
[21:38] <Invader> beibian?? wtf is that
[21:38] <tbrown2012> teknoid: What kind of Problem are you haveing
[21:38] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: yeah :( thanks anyway
[21:39] <JetJaguar> Sorry
[21:39] <Pikkachu> np
[21:39] <gordon1234> tbrown2012, if you can't boot into Windows, you will need to reinstall the virtual machine from scratch. Once you have done this, you should be able to hit F8 as soon as the virtual machine starts to get into safe mode.
[21:39] <Pikkachu> probaly there's a bug about it in LP
[21:39] <cfhowlett> Broadcom failure.  Reinstalled ubuntu 10.04.  Used the Hardware Driver utility to activate the Broacom STA wirelss driver.  Driver reported as active but no wifi.  Decided to compile Broadcom's STA linux.  Error 2 "No rule to make target `Support/Broadcom/hybrid-portsrc_x86_32_v5_100_82_112'  This method worked perfectly last time I did it.  I've installed all upgrades/updates and build-essentials headers as of last Saturday.
[21:40] <JetJaguar> Pikkachu: Drive space is so cheep now that I don't think many folks care what's on their system.
[21:40] <teknoid> @tbrown=query
[21:40] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: it's not a matter of disk usage
[21:40] <Antares> cfhowlett, my Broadcom driver was useless as well. I had to google my laptop model along with the terms "wifi driver" to have working wifi.
[21:41] <Pikkachu> JetJaguar: it's a matter of knowing what custom applications you've installed, just like in add/remove dialog in windows
[21:41] <blud> ok i found a guide for adding a resolution mode, but do i put 59.9 hz or 60hz?
[21:41] <cfhowlett> Antares: I'm about 12 hours the search process now...
[21:41] <JetJaguar> Pikkachu: I know what you mean.  Just not many folks out there use an application to track their apps I guess.
[21:42] <blud> cfhowlett: is it the b43 one?
[21:42] <raven20> hey antarez thank you that made things much better
[21:42] <Antares> Did it? Yay! :)
[21:42] <cfhowlett> blud Hardware Drivers id's it as Broadcom STA wireless driver...
[21:43] <JetJaguar> Antares: What did you have her do?
[21:43] <raven20> Yep Perfectly. Thankyou so much
[21:43] <raven20> :-D
[21:43] <Antares> Have her log into Unity 2D, JetJaguar. :P
[21:43] <cfhowlett> blud: my chip is bcm4315
[21:43] <blud> cfhowlett: oh ok nvm i guess, i just figured out how to get my b43 one working yesterday
[21:43] <JetJaguar> Ha ha.  Knew it.
[21:43] <Antares> You're welcome, raven20. :)
[21:43] <raven20> Good call indeed :-D :-P
[21:43] <raven20> I will see ya guys later. Thanks again
[21:44] <JetJaguar> Had to do that on one of my systems for it to work.  It has ATI video card.
[21:44] <SubjectOne> dir
[21:44] <blud> thats a good idea pretending to be female to get faster help :D
[21:44] <Antares> I had to do that for the ancient 2006 Dell D420  for Ubuntu to be stable, lol.
[21:44] <dat789> hi!
[21:44] <dat789> anyone here?
[21:44] <Antares> Hey, what's up?
[21:44] <JetJaguar> No one is here.
[21:44] <JetJaguar> ;)
[21:44] <dat789> vlc media / video playback problem... :(
[21:45] <dat789> downloaded and installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:45] <blud> hey you guys think it matters if i set my vga output hz to 59.9 or 60?? or just pretty much the same thing?
[21:45] <dat789> then played a *.avi file... worked fine for one day
[21:45] <Antares> Should be the same, blud.
[21:45] <blud> ok cool
[21:45] <dat789> today... same problem... black screen when playback. but sound is OK
[21:46] <dat789> any ideas what could be wrong?
[21:46] <theadmin> dat789: VLC doesn't care about any other codecs you install (i.e. the restricted-extras), try any other player
[21:46] <LordDragon> hey all. i want to setup a local telnet server on ubuntu. i know i need to install telnetd. but after that, how do i configure the terminal emulation method and restrict access to internal IP only so that ppl on the net cant login?
[21:47] <dat789> theadmin: tried with Movie Player (ubuntu), still didn't work. same issue -- black screen.
[21:48] <dat789> lsb_release -a output: Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS (Lucid)
[21:49] <BillShut> LjL: http://www.biebian.sourceforge.net
[21:49] <dat789> help?
[21:49] <Antares> dat789, have you installed video drivers? I just googled around and someone with an nvidia card reinstalled drivers and video worked again.
[21:49] <Antares> Using 10.04 as well.
[21:50] <dat789> Antares: no, i dont' believe i installed video drivers. it's an old laptop machine. everything works fine when installed.
[21:50] <dat789> Antares: but I've downloaded and installed ubuntu-restricted-extras just yesterday
[21:51] <SHOVELL> there is a program called input device sharing in 11.10 and i am wondering how to install this on my lucid box as well??
[21:51] <Antares> I'm googling around to get ideas. Problems like these can be hard to get to the bottom of as they're a bit general. :P
[21:52] <Seryth> Hey guys, I've just got a new printer, a Canon IP4200. I've installed the drivers, and it shows up in LibreOffice, but when I hit print, nothing happens? There is paper loaded and everything...ubuntu 11.10
[21:52] <cfhowlett> Broadcom failure.  Reinstalled ubuntu 10.04.  Used the Hardware Driver utility to activate the Broacom STA wirelss driver.  Driver reported as active but no wifi.  Decided to compile Broadcom's STA linux.  Error 2 "No rule to make target `Support/Broadcom/hybrid-portsrc_x86_32_v5_100_82_112'  This method worked perfectly last time I did it.  I've installed all upgrades/updates and build-essentials headers as of last Saturday.
[21:52] <zykotick9> dat789: if you have mplayer (this is NOT Movie Player BTW) installed try "mplayer -vo x11 foo" and/vs "mplayer -vo xv foo"
[21:53] <Antares> Seryth, does your installed printer come up in the printer choices when you press print in LibreOffice?
[21:53] <dat789> zykotick9: no, i don't have mplayer
[21:53] <jsebean> hello all
[21:53] <zykotick9> dat789: k, well good luck
[21:53] <Seryth> Antares: Yes. I've seen reports of the same printer working with Ubuntu before, so I know it's not a lost cause.
[21:54] <Antares> Seryth, what comes up when you press the print option in LibreOffice? Your printer is in there, but it does nothing when you tell it to print?
[21:54] <SHOVELL> there is a program called input device sharing in 11.10 it is a very interesting program that allows you to use two computers like they were the same machine with two monitorsand i am wondering how to install this on my lucid box as well??
[21:55] <Seryth> Antares: I press print, and nothing happens. I've checked the paper feed and everything.
[21:57] <skypce> hello, how can i create a Ambiance subtheme in /usr/share/themes without override the Radiance theme for doesnt have problems with future updates from ubuntu?
[21:57] <skypce> sorryu
[21:57] <skypce> again
[21:57] <BillShut> I think im going to try out hannah montana linux based off kubuntu, does anyone have experence in this distro?:
[21:57] <skypce> hello, how can i create a Ambiance subtheme in /usr/share/themes without override the Ambiance theme for doesnt have problems with future updates from ubuntu?
[21:58] <mongy> SHOVELL, I thnk you mean synergy and gsynergy
[21:59] <SHOVELL> mongy,  no but i will look at those in the Ubuntu software center it is under the name "Input devise sharing"
[22:00] <SHOVELL> mongy,  ***device
[22:00] <mongy> SHOVELL, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/5-ways-to-bring-your-desk-to-order-with-ubuntu/ 3rd one down.
[22:00] <andy82> !ping
[22:01] <mongy> SHOVELL,  I've only used it a couple of times to use this mouse/keyboard on a netbook few feet away, over network.
[22:02] <SHOVELL> mongy,  what you are suggesting is a very compairable program i will look in to it THANK YOU
[22:05] <fairuz__> hi, any good reference/book on learning how to make ppa's with good real example? thanks.
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> fairuz__: i'd ask in #launchpad
[22:06] <SubjectOne> how can i see under console howmuch memory i have on my system ?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> SubjectOne: free -m
[22:07] <SubjectOne> ah k thanx
[22:07] <Oer> fairuz, good start > http://askubuntu.com/questions/71510/how-do-i-create-a-ppa
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> SubjectOne: top left number is how much ram the system has
[22:07] <sobersab1e> just upgraded to oneiric, and I don't have "screen" installed.
[22:07] <sobersab1e> where is it ?
[22:07] <fairuz__> ActionParsnip: Oer: ok thanks!
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> sobersab1e: just reinstall it with:  sudo apt-get install screen
[22:08] <sobersab1e> ActionParsnip: no it is not there.
[22:08] <dat789> hi
[22:08] <Seryth> ActionParsnip: !! It's you :D Do you remember the other day you helped me find the drivers for my printer? I know you probably don't, you help so many people, heh.
[22:08] <Oer> !info screen
[22:08] <bluefrog> sobersab1e, install byobu
[22:09] <mongy> sobersab1e, Installed: 4.0.3-14ubuntu8 < is for me
[22:09] <dat789> I right-clicked on one AVI file and in the Audio/Video tab, Codec = XVID MPEG-4
[22:09] <Seryth> ActionParsnip: Basically the printer still isn't working. I can't see any settings dilogue for it or anything, and when I try to print with it (it's listed in libreoffice now) nothing happens....
[22:09] <bluefrog> sobersab1e, which will install tmux which is used instead of screen now
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Seryth: it is me, i do help a lot :)
[22:09] <dat789> but I've downloaded and installed ubuntu-restricted-extras just yesterday... it worked but only for yesterday. Today, black screen/output
[22:09] <guntbert> !enter | dat789
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Seryth: not sure man, could remove it then add it via http://localhost:631
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> dat789: what video chip do you use? The restricted extras will not give you a black screen at boot
[22:11] <dat789> ActionParsnip: How do I check for the video chip? btw, it's not black screen at boot... i'm just trying to play movie files (AVI) using VLC
[22:11] <dat789> guntbert: gotcha! thx!
[22:11] <sobersab1e> bluefrog: whatis byobu ?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> dat789: ahhh, does gnome-mplayer work?
[22:12] <sobersab1e> "window manager based on screen" !?
[22:12] <bigterd> i've wiped /etc/mdadm's config, and upon kerenl boot, still complains about a degraded array. and i've even done mdadm --stop /dev/'arra'y, and upon reboot, still complaining. wtf?
[22:12] <bigterd> man page tells it searches /etc/mdadm/mdmad.conf and /etc/mdadm.conf, both are not there. yet kerenl still detects a degraded array.
[22:12] <bluefrog> sobersab1e, lots of scripts which were enhancing screen and now it is based on tmux (screen alike)
[22:12] <dat789> ActionParsnip: i don't know. is that the same as Ubuntu's Movie Player? i'm using Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS Lucid
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> dat789: no, that is totem, try gnome-mplayer, its adds some other niceness too
[22:13] <wunnle> hello
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> dat789: also try a different output method in VLC
[22:13] <Oins> dat789: haven't followed the whole story, but you could also try the vlc player.
[22:13] <wunnle> do you use any drag&drop upload applications on Ubuntu?
[22:13] <someonenew> vlc sucks
[22:13] <someonenew> hi guys
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> wunnle: dropbox
[22:14] <bigterd> vlc does suck. mplayer all the way. cmd line too.
[22:14] <bluefrog> sobersab1e, and you won't be lost because byobu in 11.04 is using tmux but with screen controls
[22:14] <dat789> someonenew: what would you recommend then?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> dat789: try gnome-mplayer
[22:14] <dat789> Oins: i am using VLC media player
[22:14] <someonenew> dat789: mplayer2-git
[22:14] <Oins> yes functionality sucks too ;)
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> dat789: there is an option in vlc to change the video output method, may want to try different ones of those, see if it helps
[22:14] <someonenew> anyways
[22:14] <pixelhack> hey guys were do I go if I need help with archlinux in irc?
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> pixelhack: #arch
[22:15] <someonenew> pixelhack: archlinux channel
[22:15] <Oins> dat789: ah ok. sry, I was not able to follow the whole problem ;)
[22:15] <pixelhack> k thanks
[22:15] <dat789> ActionParsnip: Right... i didn't do anything... but tried to play movie again in vlc.. now the picture is on!
[22:15] <someonenew> sooooo
[22:15] <someonenew> guys
[22:15] <someonenew> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[22:15] <FloodBot1> someonenew: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:15] <someonenew> is it a layer or a chroot?
[22:15] <someonenew> FloodBot1: I'm not flooding?
[22:15] <dat789> I'm not sure if the problem will persist tomorrow... but we'll see
[22:16] <ubuntunobody> hi, i have made an usb from install cd image and boot from it but the installation program says it cannot find the cdrom, how do i go on install?
[22:16] <Antares> ubuntunobody, if you use a program called Unetbootin, it will take the .iso and make a bootable USB for you.
[22:17] <someonenew> :<
[22:17] <dat789> ActionParsnip: am getting the gnome-mplayer anyway... we'll see about this tmrw. movie time. thanks guys!!
[22:17] <wunnle> ActionParsnip, it's not what i wanted. Something automatically uploads and and copies link. like cloudapp?
[22:17] <SHOVELL> mongy, works perfectly thank you
[22:17] <ubuntunobody> Antares, yes that's what I did, but the installation program searches for a cdrom whih doesn't exist
[22:18] <Antares> By installation program, do you mean you already booted into the Live CD session with the USB drive, ubuntunobody?
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> wunnle: dropbox watches the folders for changes then uploads to the servers, then the new version is pushed to all systems linked to that account
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> wunnle: or do you mean like an image pastebin from CLI?
[22:19] <ubuntunobody> Antares, yes
[22:19] <wunnle> ActionParsnip, i already use dropbox. yep, like pastebin, but also for pictures or small files.
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> wunnle: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/upload-image-to-imgur-nautilus-actions.html
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> wunnle: not sure about files, there may be someting for megaupload etc
[22:21] <someonenew> Like so nobody knows? ;<
[22:22] <someonenew> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android <- is it chroot or layer (I know it allows existance of both systems using the same kernel, not an answer to my question)?
[22:22] <someonenew> :<
[22:22] <SHOVELL> mongy, think there is aomething to share a monitor too?
[22:23] <trever420> WOAH WAIT
[22:23] <trever420> UBUNTU ON ANDROID???
[22:23] <oliphant> Hi all. Question: How do I get quick access to IPA fonts in LO 3.4.3? I use junicode.
[22:23] <trever420> when was i gonna be informed of this
[22:23] <someonenew> trever420: calm your fanboy rage
[22:23] <someonenew> My question is more important
[22:23] <mongy> SHOVELL, the builtin vnc remote desktop software.
[22:23] <trever420> no no no... this is now a reason for me to get a docking station
[22:23] <Antares> ubuntunobody, I have never experienced that, but perhaps this may help: http://demtrex.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/work-around-the-cd-rom-detection-issue-when-installing-ubuntu-server/
[22:24] <SHOVELL> mongy awe shoot thanks forgot
[22:25] <trever420> good thing my HTC 3D EVO has a dual core
[22:26] <ubuntunobody> Antares, thanks for the help, something like that should do it
[22:26] <guntbert> someonenew: 1) don't repeat so often  2) don't use <enter> as punctuation
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> wunnle: I just modified the script, works well here :)
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> wunnle: image uploading via CLI, nice
[22:27] <Antares> I hope it works. Good luck, ubuntunobody!
[22:27] <guntbert> !ot | trever420
[22:28] <trever420> umm mthis was ubuntu related
[22:28] <trever420> but thanks
[22:28] <hsmbn> J huhu
[22:28] <catcher> Anyone have luck running 3 monitors simultaneously in ubuntu?
[22:29] <zelrikriando> hi
[22:29] <JohnDoe`> hi
[22:29] <zelrikriando> I just managed to repair gnome, however, the default theme colors etc are not loading
[22:29] <zelrikriando> is there a way to reconfigure that
[22:29] <zelrikriando> or is it a missing package
[22:30] <zelrikriando> (gnome-shell)
[22:30] <wunnle> ActionParsnip, still looking for a drag&drop thing. I found a cloudapp clone, will try it. https://github.com/abhinandh/py-cloudapp
[22:30] <dualbooter> hey there, i had a couple of question about a dual boot setup, is anyone here?
[22:31] <zykotick9> !ask | dualbooter
[22:31] <wunnle> ActionParsnip, or maybe i won't. last commit, 11 months ago :/
[22:32] <dualbooter> i have an ssd with windows 7 on it, and a hard drive that I'm using to store media. How do I install ubuntu on the hard drive and maintain the windows partition as well?
[22:32] <dualbooter> is there anything special I need to do>?
[22:32] <someonenew> !patience
[22:32] <someonenew> Yeah lol@ubforums
[22:33] <chid_t> hi, I recently resumed from a hibernate but accidentally rebooted, how can I resume from the hibernate file again?
[22:33] <chid_t> is it possible first of all
[22:33] <chid_t> I'd just like to restore a lyx file that I was editing but haven't saved
[22:38] <esuave> is there any way to scroll down while using top? to see more processes?
[22:38] <gordon1234> dualbooter, I have not done this before, but assuming the Windows boot partition is still on the hard disk, rather than the ssd, you should be able to to a side-by-side install with ubuntu. *not sure though* If you try it ... best to prepare for the worst :-)
[22:38] <newbie0815> hi
[22:39] <zykotick9> esuave: you might want to try htop (it a colourful version of top) that you can scroll top in [might be possible in top, but i'm unaware how]
[22:40] <zykotick9> s/top in/down in/
[22:41] <BrendanMcc> has anyone experienced 'no wired connection' in vmware player 3.1.5?
[22:41] <ugur> hello,how  can i install 11.10 on usb flash drive as persistent?
[22:41] <esuave> zykotick9: whats that mean? s/top in/down in/?
[22:41] <someonenew> regular expression
[22:41] <zykotick9> esuave: i typoed so s is substitude "top in" for "down in"
[22:42] <esuave> zykotick9: oh hah ok.. i thought it was something for me to look at.. ill take a look at htop! thanks
[22:43] <ugur> !ubottu
[22:44] <ugur> !ubottu usb
[22:44] <etfb> I'm thinking of trying out 12.04.  How stable is it?
[22:44] <zykotick9> ugur: my personal recommendation is rather then mess with persistance, just full install to the USB instead.  Good luck.
[22:44] <someonenew> !ubottu is http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android a chroot or a layer?
[22:44] <someonenew> lol
[22:45] <ugur> zykotick9: how can i do that just enough to follow normal install steps ?
[22:45] <zykotick9> ugur: yup, when it asks you where to install to - pick your usb
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> etfb: ask in #ubuntu+1 for anything Precise based please
[22:46] <ugur> zykotick9: thanks. how much space do i need ?
[22:47] <zykotick9> !requirements | ugur
[22:47] <zykotick9> ugur: i thinks it's like 5GB or so, but check above ;)
[22:47] <zykotick9> ugur: 4GB wouldn't be enough for the regular desktop
[22:48] <ugur> zykotick9: thanks, checking
[22:48] <esuave> !ubottu botsnack
[22:48] <zykotick9> !botsnack
[22:48] <esuave> ah thats how lol
[22:48] <esuave> lol
[22:48] <Bender> Hello, I need help with ALSA or Pulseaudio, I'm not sure. The audio input is buggy.
[22:50] <ablyss> Bender, try pulseaudio --kill && pulseaudio --start
[22:51] <Bender> ablyss, ok....
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> ablyss: you only need to kill it, it will start on its own :)
[22:52] <Bender> ablyss, nothing
[22:52] <ablyss> ActionParsnip, ok:)
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> Bender: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds, then retry some sound stuffs
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> ok, as long as thats cool
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> how is the tuff
[22:53] <Bender> ablyss, ActionParsnip, ok...
[22:53] <ablyss> who u talking to
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> wrong window...
[22:53] <ablyss> ha
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> ablyss: my GF
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> hahaha
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> that could've been waaaay worse
[22:54]  * ablyss wondering about the tuff
[22:54] <ugur> zykotick9: could you explain me differences between a full install and persistent ? I don't know differences.
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> AlbireoX: its what she calls: teeth
[22:54] <zykotick9> ugur: persistance is a livecd with a small amount of space to save files, a full install is just a regular install
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> Bender: what is the sound issue?
[22:56] <someonenew> k bye
[22:56] <someonenew> k bye
[22:56] <someonenew> k bye
[22:56] <ugur> zykotick9: thanks again.
[22:56] <FloodBot1> someonenew: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:58] <Bender>  ActionParsnip, yout solution worked...i talked with you some days ago. If I change my audio input it freezes to line-in makeing impossible to switch back to mic-in or another input. Also as I use jackd It can't start the server if I specify a mic-in which is in hw:1 it only accepts default value hw:0 that is a disabled soundcard in my hdmi ATI videocard.
[22:59] <zykotick9> ugur: oh, sidenote.  If you want the same USB to also act as an install USB, use persistance, not full install
[22:59] <gener1c> say, why does windows an linux dont give the same filesize?
[23:00] <gener1c> i was checking to see whats an iso's size on a shared folder
[23:00] <gener1c> and it says different things on linux and on windows
[23:00] <gener1c> plus, du -sh and the graphic interface in ubuntu also say different things
[23:01] <Oer> megabyte millionbyte diff
[23:03] <cerchio>  
[23:03] <Oer> gener1c, for example look at exact bytes, 746,9 MB (746893312 bytes) 1,7 GB (1666560000 bytes)
[23:08] <lzhang> were the sun-java6-* packages removed from the partner repo recently? perhaps today or yesterday?
[23:08] <lzhang> just trying to chase down the reason for some script failures on my ubuntu lucid instances
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: depends if they accommodate slack space
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> lzhang: yes it was removed
[23:09] <savid> Hi, I've finally got ubuntu working on my Macbook Pro.  One problem I'm still having is that the "fn" key doesn't seem to work.   I need that key so that I can use "home" and "end" by pressing fn+left-arrow or fn+right-arrow,  among other things.  Any ideas how to make it work?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> lzhang: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> savid: which macbook pro is it?
[23:10] <savid> ActionParsnip,  8,3 (2011 version)
[23:10] <lzhang> ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> savid: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/207127
[23:12] <mjbermea> Hey guys. I have a problem with 10.10. Whenever I try to mount my iPhone, I get an error saying "Unhandled Lockdown error (-4)" Any idea what this means?
[23:12] <savid> ActionParsnip, that looks like an old bug, which appears to have been fix. Not sure if it's related.
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> savid: could report your own then
[23:13] <rattatoue> Anyone tried the cinnamon desktop in Ubuntu.
[23:13] <savid> ActionParsnip, not convinced it's a bug yet..  just wondering if it has something to do with my setup.
[23:14] <Bender> ActionParsnip, so how can I make my soundcard to work with jackd? I asked to the jackd support team and they said it is an ALSA issue related to my card: creative sbLive! Value.
[23:15] <savid> ActionParsnip, ah, found a more recent bug.   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/730629
[23:16] <Pikkachu> did something change in Oneiric regarding PS1? I can't get it to work
[23:16] <Bender> ActionParsnip, do you think that swithing to OSS can help me somehow?
[23:16] <zykotick9> rattatoue: a few people have mentioned issues in the channel, it's not supported.  If you want cinnamon, install mint.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> Bender: could try
[23:17] <Oer> savid, it is not a bug
[23:17] <Oer> savid it is a bios thing >>> http://www.expertcore.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3001
[23:18] <savid> Oer, no, you misunderstand.  this isn't about the behavior of the fn key.   My fn key isn't working period.
[23:21] <superdave321> How can I see connected ssh users?
[23:22] <dat789> ActionParsnip: Aha! I know what was the issue with the black screen. Since i've installed the Ubuntu-Restricted-Extra, etc., these are not the problem. I hooked up my machine (laptop) to my TV via a VGA cable and the video does not output correctly when the monitor on the laptop and TV display are on. The problem was resolved by switching the display to output only to TV, OR only at laptop.
[23:22] <zykotick9> superdave321: does "w" show you?
[23:22] <savid> superdave321, w
[23:22] <Pikkachu> oh sorry it was force_color_prompt=yes, nevermind
[23:23] <crash1hd> can someone let me know what this command does  chmod +s
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/chmod-s-or-chmod-s-98508/
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod
[23:26] <rattatoue> crash1hd, +s set user or group ID on execution of the file
[23:26] <LeartS> Hi all!
[23:26] <McPeter> c/lear
[23:26] <rattatoue> Hi LeartS!
[23:27] <crash1hd> thank you all :)
[23:28] <vlt> Hello. When I try to playback any video from my “watch later” list on youtube with Firefox on Ubuntu Oneiric only the first one is played. Is this Ubuntu/Flash/HTML5 or youtube related?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: the web is a great resource if you search it ;)
[23:29] <rattatoue> vlt, sounds like a youtube related
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> vlt: what browsers have you tried?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> I love you Leanne <3
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> d'oh
[23:30] <LeartS> I found a beautiful icon set and I set it as system icon set using gnome tweaks. It works but I don't like the tray icons (wifi connection, volume) so I just want to change them usign icons from another iconset. Can any of you tell me how to see what icons does the tray use? I mean: inside my iconset dir there are a lot of subidrs: status,apps,animation and, for every one of this dir various size dirs (22,24,48,42..)
[23:30] <mongy> lol
[23:31] <superdave321> zykotick9, savid: Thanks.
[23:32] <vlt> ActionParsnip: Only Firefox so far.
[23:32] <vlt> I will try chrome but I only get a green square instead of video when using it …
[23:33] <t432> My wireless connection keep disocnnecting after awhile... what could be the problem?
[23:33] <t432> works only after switching  router/modem on/off
[23:34] <dat789> !enter
[23:35] <t432> ok
[23:35] <vlt> ActionParsnip: It’s the same with chrome (as far as I can hear), so I assume it’s a Youtube problem.
[23:35] <rattatoue> t432, I know in vista/win7 there was a power management feature. When the computer was inactive or something it would power down the device. So I had similar problems to yours. I am not sure if Ubuntu has the same feature or not.
[23:36] <youcef> hello everybody, has anyone seen this before: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/rosehzo.jpg/ ?
[23:36] <LeartS> Noone can help me? :(
[23:36] <t432> it disconnected randomly whilst active
[23:36] <t432> disconnects*
[23:37] <rattatoue> t432, try this "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off" that should disable the power management on it still. See if that fixes it.
[23:37] <rattatoue> t432, wlan0 is whatever your wireless connector is, ex wlan1 or wlan2 change the wlan0 part
[23:37] <t432> how can I check the current status?
[23:38] <rattatoue> t432, sudo iwconfig wlan0...then look part ways down you will see Power Management: on or off
[23:38] <rattatoue> LeartS, sorry I wouldnt have a clue on that, anytime Ive done it and probably most we just use one full theme pack
[23:39] <Dr_willis_> youcef,  you should at least summarize the issue.
[23:39] <t432> is this it? Power Management:on?
[23:40] <rattatoue> t432, yes that means your power management is on right now. Which could be causing your problem.
[23:40] <rattatoue> LeartS, http://askubuntu.com/questions/69224/how-do-i-get-main-menu-back <-- check that. It might be what your looking for
[23:40] <t432> rattatoue: I doubt this is the problem because wireless remains connected but no data.  Works only after turing modem and router on and off
[23:40] <youcef> I'm trying to customise an ubuntu 11.10 (adding/removing software + changing looks)  I have only one problem remaining which is the top of the window is not shown properly
[23:41] <youcef> it should be in blue with the word "welcome" on it
[23:41] <youcef> not that pink color
[23:41] <rattatoue> t432, okay. Have you tried switching channels on your router yet?
[23:41] <t432> no
[23:42] <rattatoue> t432, if something is interfering with your wireless channel. Ergo a house phone something, it can cause the same problem as its using the same channel.
[23:43] <Dr_willis_> Ive had a wireless home phone, disconnect my wireless network every time it rang. Tossed that phone. :)
[23:43] <t432> never had this problem on windows
[23:43] <t432> so it cant be that either
[23:43] <t432> my windows machine works fine
[23:44] <Dr_willis_> I havent ev4en seen the actual problem.. :)
[23:44] <rattatoue> you wont turn off the power management feature that I told you too, but then when we try to say okay maybe its a problem with the router you say no to that as well. Its most likely one or the other.
[23:44] <stephans_> I keep getting a race condition with Xorg... sitting at 80 to 90% CPU and slowing my system. Lenovo T400, tried the intel drivers, then disabled them and enabled the ATI hardware and used the fglrx drivers... same issue
[23:44] <Dr_willis_> stephans_,  one of those Dual Gpu Optimus things?
[23:45] <stephans_> Dr_willis_
[23:45] <stephans_> yes
[23:45] <stephans_> Dr_willis_ but I only enable one at a time
[23:46] <Dr_willis_> stephans_,  those are very much a work in progress at this stage.  You May want to test out the next release and submit bugs and so forth so hopefully it gets working befor  its released.
[23:46] <Mathias56> hello, I am running ubuntu server with blender. Blender keeps crashing when doing heavy memory using processes such as rendering particles. This problem doesn't seem to occur rendering the same scenes in windows. Can anyone help?
[23:46] <gordon1234> t432, do you have an iPod touch or iPhone nearby connected to you wireless when it drops out? Just a long shot :-)
[23:47] <t432> Nope -:)
[23:47] <stephans_> so no OS Destect option allowing the dynamic switching of the graphics. That only works in Windows.  But Ill try the bug submitting thing... seems pretty hard to do though.
[23:47] <t432> I'll change the channel to be sure
[23:47] <stephans_> I cant recall having these issues with the older Ubuntu releases.
[23:48] <Dr_willis_> stephans_,  you used older releases with that same hardware?
[23:48] <rattatoue> t432, whether you think its the problem or not. I have read a lot of articles about the power-management feature causing slower then normal wifi connection for both Windows 7 and Ubuntu. So either way might be a good idea to turn it off. I do it by default with both windows and ubuntu.
[23:48] <stephans_> Dr_willis_ Sure... had this laptop for a while now...
[23:48] <KommaH{s}> Hey everyone, I'm having an issue with Gimp. I know this is a general Ubuntu help channel, but my problem is so simple that I thought someone could help me.
[23:48] <stephans_> The LTS releas and the ones before that did not have this issue
[23:48] <rattatoue> Whats your problem KommaH{s}
[23:48] <t432> rattatoue: i'll do that
[23:49] <Dr_willis_> stephans_,  as in how long? as far as i know those dual gpu things only started comming out   a few months back.
[23:49] <t432> rattatoue: how do I apply it permenantly?
[23:49] <Dr_willis_> stephans_,  could be they just got lucky and used some bios default and turned off the other.
[23:49] <rattatoue> t432, after you do the sudo iwconfig part and that, it should stay permanent
[23:49] <KommaH{s}> rattatoue: I'm trying to make an animated GIF. I have all my layers set to replace the previous layer along with a background layer at the beginning.
[23:49] <sharpK> anything I can do when XBMC freezes in full screen?
[23:49] <sharpK> it's like windows 98 up in this mu'a'fa
[23:50] <t432> ah
[23:50] <Dr_willis_> sharpK,  ssh in, restart the X session. :)
[23:50] <KommaH{s}> rattatoue: However, when saving the GIF, the background layer gets replaced when the animation starts. Is there a way to prevent this without applying my background to all of the layers?
[23:50] <t432> power off
[23:50] <KommaH{s}> The background appears for 1 frame.
[23:50] <sharpK> Dr_Willis is that a built in function?
[23:50] <stephans_> Dr_willis_ This laptop was bought almost 3 years ago... no quite
[23:50] <rattatoue> KommaH{s}, sorry I dont know that much about gimp, i thought maybe it was an install problem
[23:50] <rattatoue> t432, are you asking for the command again or saying its off now?
[23:50] <KommaH{s}> Ah ok. Thanks anyways.
[23:51] <gordon1234> t432, can you do a lspci -vnn | grep 14e4 and paste output of wireless card here
[23:51] <t432> No.  Just letting you know
[23:51] <Dr_willis_> stephans_,  Hmm.. i would find it very odd that a 3 yr old laptop has a Dual Video Card Optimius setup..  could be it had its own unreleated to the Optimius 'name' similer solution
[23:51] <krambiorix> hi guys, where do i have to place a script that on boot time it will be performed?
[23:51] <t432> gordon1234: sure
[23:51] <t432> its lsusb
[23:52] <Dr_willis_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Optimus
[23:52] <Dr_willis_> krambiorix,  depends on what the script is doing
[23:53] <t432> gordon1234: whats the "lsusb" equivalent to that command? I'm getting "help" options
[23:53] <gordon1234> t432, does lspci not work?
[23:54] <t432> gordon1234: lscpi gives nothing... device is a usb
[23:54] <sharpK> if I'm SSHing into an ubuntu box from a windows box (on the same network) through the IP, would the user/pass in the ubuntu login page work?
[23:54] <sharpK> *should work?
[23:55] <Dr_willis_> sharpK,  yes. user login and pass should be the same
[23:55] <t432> gordon1234: I can see the device if I use "lsusb"
[23:55] <krambiorix> Dr_willis_, the script is mounting a remote drive with sshfs
[23:55] <sharpK> Dr_willis would the ubuntu box accept connections by default?
[23:55] <n0sq> anyone have experience with products from thinkpenguin.com?
[23:56] <stephans_> Dr_willis_ it does not say Optimus anywhere... but there are 2 dynamically switching video cards
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: yes, thats how you authenticate
[23:57] <gordon1234> t432, what does it say? you may have to do an lsusb -v and pate output to pastebin
[23:57] <sharpK> hmm, using WinSCP in an SCP session the the ip address with the user/pass returns a connection refused...
[23:57] <gordon1234> *paste
[23:57] <t432> ok
[23:57] <chachin> damn
[23:58]  * chachin is scared of FloodBot1 FloodBot2 and FloodBot3
[23:58] <Ben64> sharpK: connection refused means you have the wrong ip or port, or ssh isn't listening on the right ip or port
[23:58] <t432> gordon1234:  Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1690:0715 Askey Computer Corp. [hex] Name: Voyager 1055 Laptop 802.11g Adapter [Broadcom 4320]
[23:58] <sharpK> Ben64: default port setting was 22?
[23:58] <rlankf0> sharpK: firewall of some sort?
[23:58] <sharpK> nope...
[23:59] <sharpK> not that I installed
[23:59] <sharpK> 11.10...
[23:59] <FloodBot1> sharpK: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:59] <rlankf0> did you install anything like fail2ban or denyhosts ?
[23:59] <Dr_willis_> krambiorix,  for non X apps ran by the system - /etc/rc.local could be used
[23:59] <chachin> hello if i have a whole folder i need to move back to another place how do i do it?
[23:59] <Dr_willis_> krambiorix,  you can put sshfs mounts in /etc/fstab
[23:59] <easypie> is there a way to 'sudo apt-get install' a program into a new environment like using pip install -E /path/to/virtualenv/ <program> ?
[23:59] <sharpK> nothing like that... basically a clean 11.10 instal with XBMC, as far as I know...