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| Riddell | cjwatson: how's this? https://code.launchpad.net/~jr/livecd-rootfs/kubuntu-active/+merge/94135 | 12:11 |
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| Riddell | cjwatson: also https://code.launchpad.net/~jr/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu-active/+merge/94138 | 12:21 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: can you get somebody who isn't on leave to review it? :) | 12:47 |
| Riddell | oh, sorry | 12:47 |
| cjwatson | if you're changing tasks you might need to do a tasksel update too, there's lillypilly:~ubuntu-archive/bin/update-{seeds,*germinate}, maybe a few other places | 12:49 |
| cjwatson | new seed collections that generate tasks require landing a Launchpad change | 12:49 |
| cjwatson | ./cronscripts/publishing/cron.germinate:18:FLAVOURS="ubuntu kubuntu kubuntu-mobile edubuntu xubuntu mythbuntu lubuntu" | 12:49 |
| * cjwatson disappears again, need to head off to hospital soon | 12:49 | |
| Riddell | gotcha, thanks | 12:52 |
| Riddell | ScottK: do my merges above look like what you remember doing in the past? | 12:52 |
| ScottK | Riddell: They look right to me. | 13:35 |
| Riddell | good enough I suppose :) | 13:36 |
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| Riddell | pitti: is antimony still the machine to log into for cd builds? | 15:02 |
| pitti | Riddell: no, that's "nusakan" now | 15:03 |
| pitti | Host cdimage | 15:03 |
| pitti | HostName nusakan.canonical.com | 15:03 |
| * pitti uses ^ in his .ssh/config | 15:03 | |
| pitti | I can never remember our funny host names | 15:03 |
| pitti | I have "archive", "people", "cdimage", etc. | 15:04 |
| infinity | pitti: You're missing out on the joy of typing lillypilly, then! | 15:06 |
| infinity | (Terrible one-handed mess, if you're a "true" touch-typist) | 15:07 |
| pitti | my keyboard forces me to be :) | 15:07 |
| pitti | infinity: but indeed, that's even worse than "database", which as a psql maintainer I tend to type quite often :) | 15:07 |
| pitti | another reason to put Mr. Qwerty and Mr. Caps Lock into a sack and hit them really hard | 15:08 |
| infinity | Heh. | 15:08 |
| pitti | but I never got fluent enough with Dvorak to actually use it | 15:08 |
| Riddell | thanks pitti | 15:09 |
| infinity | Yeah, I've been typing qwerty for so long that I don't much care if there are better options. | 15:09 |
| stgraber | pitti: not using qwertz? :) (not that it'd make much difference in that case though) | 15:12 |
| Riddell | pitti, infinity: who remembers the right way to update cdimage scripts on nusakan ? | 15:12 |
| pitti | Riddell: I'm afraid I never did that | 15:12 |
| Riddell | there's a bzr branch in /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ another in /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bzr/private/cdimage and the public one at lp:cdimage-ubuntu | 15:12 |
| infinity | Riddell: Commit to private, pull from cdimage. | 15:13 |
| pitti | stgraber: no; German layout is a nuisance | 15:13 |
| Riddell | infinity: so commit to /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bzr/private/cdimage and pull from there to /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ ? | 15:13 |
| pitti | stgraber: in fact, when using C, vim, or LaTeX, anything but "us" is a nuisance | 15:13 |
| infinity | Riddell: I check out a copy of /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bzr/private/cdimage in my ~, hack on it, commit, and then as cdimage, cd to /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ and bzr pull. | 15:13 |
| Riddell | infinity: ok and how does lp:ubuntu-cdimage get updated? | 15:14 |
| infinity | Riddell: Don't worry overly about the public branch, Colin merges bi-directionally occasionally. | 15:14 |
| stgraber | pitti: yeah, I also found qwerty to work a lot better when coding than qwertz, having to use altgr half the time was a bit annoying. Though having $ directly mapped to a key was kind of nice ;) | 15:14 |
| Riddell | infinity: ok, wish me luck | 15:14 |
| infinity | Riddell: There's a hope that, at some point, the pirvate branch might go away, and the public one will become authoritative, but we still need to put some work into making that a sane reality. | 15:15 |
| infinity | Riddell: If you need anything reviewed before you do the commit/pull dance, let me know. | 15:16 |
| Riddell | infinity: https://code.launchpad.net/~jr/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu-active/+merge/94138 | 15:17 |
| infinity | Riddell: What's the "active" stand for? :P | 15:18 |
| Riddell | infinity: upstream KDE's brand for "tablet and touch UI stuff" | 15:18 |
| infinity | Ahh. | 15:18 |
| infinity | Riddell: Looks good, assuming you got every instance of 'mobile' in the source. | 15:19 |
| Riddell | grep says I did :) | 15:19 |
| infinity | ;) | 15:20 |
| Riddell | infinity: how does nusakan:/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com look to you? | 16:46 |
| Riddell | infinity: for livecd-rootfs I just update the branch and upload as a package to ubuntu? | 16:47 |
| infinity | Riddell: Yep. | 16:48 |
| infinity | Riddell: None of these images were ever supported, right? | 16:48 |
| infinity | Riddell: (ie: we'll never need to respin them for a previous release?) | 16:48 |
| Riddell | no, kubuntu-mobile never was and is dead | 16:48 |
| Riddell | kubuntu-netbook likewise | 16:48 |
| Riddell | and kubuntu-kde4 has been dead of even longer | 16:48 |
| * skaet notes we need to make sure to change this in the iso tracker. | 16:50 | |
| infinity | No need to have ARCHES="i386" in crontab if etc/default-arches is correct. | 16:51 |
| Riddell | infinity: ok, fixing | 16:51 |
| infinity | Riddell: You could probably also ditch the "mobile" and "preinstalled-mobile" cruft from make0web-indices, since you've killed those types. | 16:52 |
| infinity | But meh, that list needs more cruft-checking anyway. | 16:53 |
| infinity | We really need to kill moblin and netbook and mid... And... | 16:53 |
| infinity | So, perhaps another day. :P | 16:53 |
| Riddell | yeah I think it's cruft left over from an ubuntu-mobile not a kubuntu-mobile :) | 16:54 |
| infinity | Potentially. | 16:54 |
| infinity | I'll go through that all with a fine-toothed comb another time. | 16:54 |
| infinity | Now that ARM images have settled on sane names. | 16:55 |
| infinity | Riddell: Oh, you'll also want to hand-apply your etc/crontab changes to the actual crontab. | 17:02 |
| infinity | Riddell: (perhaps commented out, for now, while you're working on livecd-rootfs changes, etc) | 17:02 |
| Riddell | infinity: livecd-rootfs is uploaded this morning to ubuntu, will the server magically pick those up? | 17:14 |
| infinity | Riddell: The live builders apt-get upgrade chroots before every build. | 17:17 |
| Riddell | infinity: err could you edit the crontab or tell me how to convince crontab -e to use emacs and not vi? :) | 17:18 |
| infinity | Riddell: VISUAL=emacs crontab -e | 17:18 |
| infinity | (assuming emacs is installed, you might try nano) | 17:18 |
| infinity | Oh, hey, emacs is installed. | 17:18 |
| infinity | Wow. | 17:18 |
| Riddell | yeah because I asked for it once upon a time :) | 17:19 |
| infinity | Heh. | 17:19 |
| Riddell | ok updated. never heard of using VISUAL I was assuming it was EDITOR like every other command | 17:19 |
| Riddell | infinity: anything else you can think of that needs changed for new images to appear? | 17:20 |
| infinity | Off the top of my head, no, but something will probably explode. ;) | 17:20 |
| infinity | (There are launchpad changes needed too, if you were introducting a new task) | 17:21 |
| Riddell | infinity: hmm so I should go to wgrant or bigjooles about that I guess | 17:23 |
| infinity | You could have just reused the mobile tasks. ;) | 17:24 |
| infinity | But yeah, if you're renaming a task, that needs manual mangling in LP. | 17:24 |
| infinity | 05:49 < cjwatson> if you're changing tasks you might need to do a tasksel update too, there's lillypilly:~ubuntu-archive/bin/update-{seeds,*germinate}, maybe a few other places | 17:25 |
| infinity | 05:49 < cjwatson> new seed collections that generate tasks require landing a Launchpad change | 17:25 |
| infinity | 05:49 < cjwatson> ./cronscripts/publishing/cron.germinate:18:FLAVOURS="ubuntu kubuntu kubuntu-mobile edubuntu xubuntu mythbuntu lubuntu" | 17:25 |
| Riddell | oh yes | 17:26 |
| infinity | Riddell: Sorting out the relevant cron.germinate change should be trivial, you just need someone in the committers group to review and land it for you. | 17:26 |
| infinity | Riddell: And then get it cherrypicked or queued up for the next LP NDT. | 17:26 |
| infinity | Riddell: I recommend canonical/#launchpad-ops to try to get that sorted. | 17:27 |
| Riddell | thanks | 17:32 |
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| skaet | hmm... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StandingFeatureFreeze is looking rather stale in terms of usage. | 20:41 |
| Laney | indeed | 20:43 |
| highvoltage | isn't that a good thing? :) | 20:46 |
| stgraber | looks like it'd need some updating | 20:46 |
| stgraber | "have been approved for Hardy:" | 20:47 |
| stgraber | then listing a Jaunty FFe ;) | 20:47 |
| Laney | kill it | 20:47 |
| Laney | have we used standing FFes recently? | 20:47 |
| stgraber | seems like a lot of that became useless with bugfix only new releases being allowed, instead people tend to develop in PPA and ask for a single FFe when actually landing a feature which seems better | 20:49 |
| ScottK | Agreed. | 20:51 |
| skaet | ok, will go clean up the page that points to it, and update this page to indicate stale. | 21:01 |
| Laney | can you delete it? | 21:01 |
| Laney | i assume the wiki lets you resurrect deleted pages | 21:02 |
| skaet | Laney, I'll just update it to reflect there are no standing Freeze Exceptions, and process has changed. Will look into deleting later | 21:04 |
| skaet | (after I know I check what the history story is) | 21:04 |
| skaet | done | 21:09 |
| stgraber | skaet: can you do some priority bumping of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nux/+bug/926859? | 21:34 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 926859 in nux "llvmpipe software rendering needs blacklisting in unity-support-test" [High,Triaged] | 21:34 |
| stgraber | skaet: this is making working with live images a major pain for me as I can't switch to unity-2d and am stuck with the VM using 50% of my CPU to do 3D stuff in software | 21:34 |
| stgraber | not to mention 80% of the time I don't even see ubiquity because of it ... | 21:34 |
| skaet | stgraber, will ask at any rate... | 21:37 |
| stgraber | I'm surprised we haven't heard more about it as it's making ISO testing in kvm pretty much impossible | 21:38 |
| stgraber | Virtualbox/Vmware might work as they actually have 3D drivers | 21:38 |
| broder | i couldn't get the vmware 3d driver to work, fwiw - i ended up with llvmpipe | 21:40 |
| stgraber | llvmpipe is very nice to have, but I don't think we're going to have a working compiz on llvmpipe for 12.04 and even if we did, I don't think we want that to be the default | 21:41 |
| wgrant | infinity, Riddell: cocoplum deployments aren't in NDT, since they still require downtime, but it's pretty trivial, yeah. | 21:56 |
| * ScottK wonders if the uTouch team has any idea of feature freeze? | 22:48 | |
| ScottK | (beyond, oh, I have to do more paperwork now) | 22:48 |
| GrueMaster | Feature Freeze? What's that? :P | 23:11 |
| ScottK | Yeah. Not funny. | 23:12 |
| ScottK | I think I'll just approve everything. That way it's fair. | 23:12 |
| stgraber | reverting the upload until they have the paperwork done would be fair though it takes quite a bit of effort to do, it's not like we have a "revert" button on LP | 23:25 |
| ScottK | I've done reverts before, but not in awhile. | 23:27 |
| slangasek | stgraber: the iso tracker seems to link to the rootfs tarballs for the wubi test cases; that doesn't make a lot of sense to me, since users will need to download the .exe and the .exe downloads the tarball? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/206/builds/11165/downloads | 23:49 |
| stgraber | indeed, I guess it still makes sense to use the rootfs version for the builds though, just point to wherever the matching wubi is (people.ubuntu.com?) | 23:51 |
| slangasek | yeah, I think so | 23:51 |
| slangasek | should be http://people.canonical.com/~evand/wubi/precise/stable ? | 23:53 |
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| stgraber | slangasek: fixed | 23:56 |
| slangasek | cheers :) | 23:56 |
| stgraber | slangasek: I pointed to the directory instead of a specific file, having "stable" as filename looks weird. we probably should have a wubi-latest.exe as symlink to whatever is latest (probably identical to stable) | 23:56 |
| slangasek | fair enough | 23:57 |
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