[12:48] <RobinJ> Can anyone enlighten me a bit? What is Ubuntu TV? Is it a system that you can simply install on your laptop to stream television from the internet; Is it something that has to come preinstalled on a SmartTV (which I've never seen yet in my country); Is it something that you can install on a computer with a TV tuner card; ...? I don't really get the idea
[12:51] <L-----D> RobinJ, it is supposed to run on a SmartTV or SetBox, imo
[12:51] <RobinJ> in your opinion... what does that mean? can it run on all of those?
[12:53] <L-----D> RobinJ, the project is still at the begining stage, only some mockup Unity UI is released, so there is no hardware so far
[12:53] <RobinJ> lol
[12:53] <RobinJ> ok :p
[12:53] <RobinJ> i just wondered for what device it's made, as i've never seen a smarttv in my life :p
[12:54] <L-----D> SmartTV like Google TV
[12:54] <RobinJ> i dont know what that is either xD
[12:55] <RobinJ> as far as i know they're not generally sold in europe yet
[12:55] <L-----D> a SmartTV is just a TV shipped with arm/atom system, so you can run real system on it
[12:56] <L-----D> RobinJ, yeah, I blamed that for Google
[12:56] <RobinJ> lol
[13:02] <RobinJ> just one thing more... is ubuntu tv and ubuntu for android also developed by the community? or do those only get developed by canonical employees?
[13:05] <L-----D> I'm not sure about that
[13:23] <popey> RobinJ: hello!
[13:24] <RobinJ> hi
[13:24] <popey> Ubuntu TV is in the early stages of development
[13:24] <RobinJ> i've been told :p
[13:25] <popey> oh ok.
[13:25] <popey> any other questions?
[13:25] <RobinJ> nan not really :p no'one was able to answer my 2 questions :p
[13:26] <RobinJ> probably not general knowledge yet
[13:26] <popey> 13:02:57 < RobinJ> just one thing more... is ubuntu tv and ubuntu for android also developed by the community? or do those only get developed by canonical employees?
[13:26] <popey> that one?
[13:27] <popey> it was developed internally at canonical by developers who are part of the ubuntu community. there's not really a line between 'community' and 'canonical'. canonical people are part of the community too
[13:27] <popey> ☺
[13:27] <RobinJ> ah xd
[13:27] <RobinJ> ok :p
[13:27] <RobinJ> and the other one?
 Can anyone enlighten me a bit? What is Ubuntu TV? Is it a system that you can simply install on your laptop to stream television from the internet; Is it something that has to come preinstalled on a SmartTV (which I've never seen yet in my country); Is it something that you can install on a computer with a TV tuner card; ...? I don't really get the idea
[13:28] <popey> Ok. so the idea is that you would be able to go to a shop and buy a TV with Ubuntu TV pre-installed
[13:29] <RobinJ> hmm, so i probably wont see them in my country yet
[13:29] <popey> the code we've made so far is out there so potentially you could install it on a desktop pc, yeah
[13:29] <popey> what country?
[13:29] <RobinJ> belgium
[13:30] <RobinJ> i've never seen a smarttv, google tv, apple tv, ... here
[13:30] <RobinJ> just normal tv's
[13:30] <RobinJ> we've got digital tv though it's not generally used yet, and we need a seperate box for that
[13:30] <RobinJ> which we plug in to the tv