| RAOF | sforshee: Ok. I'm not entirely sure why libgnome-desktop is trying to use the "ConnectorType" property, because it's a filthy lie; nothing implements it, and I see no reason to expect it to be implemented in the near future (unless we want to; it couldn't be *that* hard ☺) | 06:23 |
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| RAOF | sforshee: Patch libgnome-desktop away! | 06:23 |
| jussi | tjaalton: which bot is normally here? | 07:41 |
| jussi | ahh looks like ubot4. | 07:42 |
| tjaalton | jussi: can't recall, but sounds familiar-ish | 07:42 |
| tjaalton | bug 933710 | 07:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 933710 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Precise) "Laptops with eDP panels do not suspend when lid closed" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933710 | 07:44 |
| tjaalton | yeah, works | 07:44 |
| jussi | yup, of course it does :D | 07:44 |
| jussi | but when the other one comes back it will double up on things, so one needs to be removed | 07:44 |
| tjaalton | so how to kill it? | 07:44 |
| jussi | grab a memeber of the irc council, mithrandir or a freenode staffer and get it quieted. or grab me or tsimpson and we will remove one. | 07:45 |
| jussi | also, you peoples dont have operators in here - you really need to fix that. | 07:46 |
| tjaalton | ok cool | 07:46 |
| tjaalton | .) | 07:46 |
| tjaalton | :) | 07:46 |
| * jussi writes mail. | 07:46 | |
| tjaalton | yeah don't think we've ever had | 07:46 |
| tjaalton | my memory goes back 5y | 07:47 |
| jussi | tjaalton: who are the people here who could do that - I assume they arent needed a lot anyway. but a few is a good idea to have. | 07:47 |
| tjaalton | jussi: me, bryceh, RAOF, Sarvatt, cnd for instance | 07:47 |
| jussi | ok, Ill zap one of the ircc and get things sorted. | 07:48 |
| tjaalton | maybe some of the more active community ones too | 07:48 |
| tjaalton | thanks! | 07:48 |
| jussi | tjaalton: Mithrandir isnt around anymore, correct? | 07:54 |
| tjaalton | jussi: not working for canonical no | 07:56 |
| jussi | ok, thanks. :) | 07:56 |
| jussi | tjaalton: AlanBell will sort out the bits and peices (I am not on the IRCC anymore) | 07:56 |
| tjaalton | jussi: ok great to see this happen at last.. | 07:57 |
| jussi | tjaalton: I dont know why we didnt do anything about it when I was on the ircc. :/ | 07:57 |
| AlanBell | should be all set now (unless I messed it up) | 07:57 |
| jussi | AlanBell: any reason you missed an A on tjaalton? :P | 07:58 |
| AlanBell | see I said I got it wrong | 07:58 |
| tjaalton | :) | 07:58 |
| AlanBell | fixed | 07:58 |
| jussi | tjaalton: try /msg chanserv op #ubuntu-x tjaalton | 07:59 |
| AlanBell | \o/ | 07:59 |
| tjaalton | whee | 07:59 |
| jussi | tjaalton: now try /msg chanserv deop #ubuntu-x tjaalton | 07:59 |
| tjaalton | rocks | 08:00 |
| jussi | tjaalton: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorGuide | 08:00 |
| tjaalton | hmm I think bryceh was there already, since he has set the topic before? | 08:00 |
| jussi | nope | 08:00 |
| tjaalton | ok.. | 08:00 |
| jussi | tjaalton: also, "/msg chanserv access #ubuntu-x list" will give you the full list | 08:01 |
| AlanBell | we will be doing some fun and interesting classes for new ops in #ubuntu-classroom soon, you might want to tag along with them | 08:01 |
| AlanBell | anyhow, I am off out now, laters all o/ | 08:01 |
| tjaalton | hmm why bryce2 not bryceh? | 08:01 |
| jussi | someone probably had the channel set -t or manually opped him | 08:01 |
| jussi | tjaalton: /msg nickserv info bryceh | 08:02 |
| tjaalton | ah ok :) | 08:02 |
| jussi | :) | 08:02 |
| tjaalton | the mysteries of irc | 08:03 |
| jussi | tjaalton: now you can set a nice topic (the current one is a bit sparse | 08:03 |
| tjaalton | hum :) | 08:03 |
| tjaalton | maybe later, can't think of a better one yet | 08:04 |
| jussi | tjaalton: also, you have ubuntulog here, and that means you need to sort out the t&c's as per here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | 08:04 |
| jussi | AlanBell: I dont think tjaalton can actually do that because he has no s flag. | 08:04 |
| jussi | the joys of getting things up to date. | 08:05 |
| tjaalton | t&c's? | 08:05 |
| jussi | tjaalton: look at the link ;) | 08:05 |
| tjaalton | looking, but what exactly? | 08:06 |
| tjaalton | oh the disclaimer? | 08:06 |
| jussi | basicallyn says you need to follow the coc and the channel will be logged | 08:06 |
| tjaalton | sure | 08:06 |
| jussi | however, as I mentioned, I dont think you can use the set command | 08:07 |
| tjaalton | ok | 08:07 |
| jussi | so we have to wait for AlanBell or someone else from the ircc to sort things a little more. | 08:08 |
| jussi | anyway, carry on, glad its mostly sorted :) | 08:08 |
| tjaalton | yeah, thanks | 08:09 |
| AlanBell | tjaalton: you now have a +s flag | 09:09 |
| tjaalton | AlanBell: thanks | 09:10 |
| apw | anyone else seeing an odd lensing or combing effect on the left edge of some characters on atom h/w on precise? | 10:09 |
| apw | RAOF, how do i find out what sub-pixel layout is being used ? | 10:12 |
| apw | this feels a little like the wrong layout is being used on my atom | 10:13 |
| apw | or something odd | 10:13 |
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| cnd | bryceh, what are your thoughts on the locked drags stuff | 21:53 |
| cnd | it's hard to discern if it's a vocal minority who have a problem with it | 21:55 |
| cnd | at the same time, if I get the clickpad stuff landed, I can see easily reverting the behavior since it was simply to fix clickpads | 21:56 |
| RAOF | apw: Like so many things, you've got two options. “xrandr --verbose” will tell you the subpixel ordering the hardware thinks it has, looking at /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/xsettings/rgba-order will tell you what GTK thinks it is. | 21:56 |
| RAOF | cnd: The locked drags stuff is the reason why alt-tab sometimes doesn't work for me, right? :) | 21:57 |
| cnd | oh wait, I thought beta 1 was tomorrow | 21:57 |
| cnd | I see it's quite a ways away | 21:57 |
| cnd | RAOF, maybe? | 21:57 |
| cnd | RAOF, no, I can alt-tab inside a locked drag | 21:57 |
| RAOF | I think the way I use the trackpad I quite frequently hit the draglock; perhaps some apps take out grabs on drag? | 21:58 |
| bryceh | cnd, the locked drag doesn't really do it for me, but I can imagine for some people or some use cases it may make a lot of sense | 22:03 |
| bryceh | cnd, my druthers would be to have it as a non-default option | 22:03 |
| cnd | bryceh, ideally it would be a setting in the mouse prefs | 22:06 |
| cnd | unfortunately we're passed UI freeze | 22:06 |
| cnd | that's what I wanted to do originally, but ran out of time | 22:06 |
| cnd | I'll revert it hopefully as soon as the ffe is granted | 22:07 |
| bryceh | cnd, ask for a UI freeze exception | 22:07 |
| cnd | bryceh, that would require me to actually find time to develop it | 22:07 |
| cnd | I haven't investigated at all, and I have other bugs that are higher prio | 22:07 |
| cnd | and a revert of this + clickpad fixes is probably the best option anyways | 22:07 |
| cnd | RAOF, were you able to easily trigger the X crash before, and if so has the update fixed it? | 22:12 |
| RAOF | cnd: I was not, no. | 22:12 |
| cnd | ok | 22:13 |
| RAOF | cnd: But, then again, I wasn't actually using a multitouch synaptics device :) | 22:13 |
| cnd | hmm... | 22:13 |
| RAOF | Rick was hitting that, as was asac; I pointed asac at the new synaptics and it seemed to quiet him? :) | 22:16 |
| bryceh | cnd, was this the crash fixed in 0ubuntu3? | 22:21 |
| cnd | bryceh, yeah | 22:22 |
| cnd | the one I told you about yesterday | 22:22 |
| bryceh | right, so, turns out there's been a ton of different crash reports that have come in that seem to be solved with that | 22:23 |
| cnd | oh great | 22:23 |
| cnd | :) | 22:23 |
| bryceh | still got a bunch I'm waiting on people testing, but it looks like it fixed a lot of the recent xserver crashes | 22:23 |
| Sarvatt | cnd: hate to pester but do you have 0ubuntu3 locally and just forgot to push by any chance? :P | 22:23 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, maybe? | 22:24 |
| cnd | I did it late last night in vienna | 22:24 |
| bryceh | mesa 8.0.1 looks like it'll solve another good chunk | 22:24 |
| cnd | before I slept 6 hours and flew home | 22:24 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, so I very well could have forgotten | 22:24 |
| cnd | let me make sure | 22:24 |
| RAOF | bryceh: Does that include the WriteToClient weirdness? | 22:27 |
| Sarvatt | RAOF: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/925341 no synaptics being used | 22:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 925341 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in WriteToClient()" [High,Confirmed] | 22:28 |
| RAOF | Sarvatt: Quite true. Boo :( | 22:29 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, pushed | 22:29 |
| cnd | thanks for noticing that | 22:29 |
| Sarvatt | cnd: appreciate it! updated today thinking the fix was in it | 22:30 |
| bryceh | RAOF, no, we have more xserver crash bugs beyond these two :-/ | 22:32 |
| bryceh | and I think the WriteToClient bug may pre-date the synaptics changes anyway, but not sure | 22:32 |
| RAOF | bryceh: Oh! What version of the nvidia driver is that? DBO was seeing some corruption when using FBOs with the pre-295.20 driver that he said eventually took down the server. | 22:33 |
| bryceh | that one was 295.10 | 22:34 |
| bryceh | I'll have them retest, good idea | 22:34 |
| bryceh | O rhythmbox why you no love? | 22:36 |
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