[00:22] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[01:21] <rajuramvani> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[01:44] <sizz> I enjoy enemy territory, and I was wondering if anyone plays any commercial windows PC games on linux via wine, and if so, which ones run well e.g. the Call of Duty series?
[02:05] <rajuramvani> send me anybody solve my problem-subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[03:07] <designbybeck> Greetings all! I think someone posted this problem a few days ago. But I don't remember seeing a solution. And now I have this problem!
[03:07] <designbybeck> Simple box, new install, hooked to a 42" TV via VGA
[03:07] <designbybeck> when live booting and installing everything looked correct. Then after install and reboot, all the font is BIG!
[03:08] <designbybeck> icons and bar look correct size, but all fonts seem to have been made BIG, any idea why?
[03:17] <DaemonFC> have the font sizes actually been changed by something?
[03:18] <DaemonFC> Kubuntu defaults mostly to size 8-9
[03:18] <designbybeck> haven't touched any settings DaemonFC this was a new install reboot
[03:19] <DaemonFC> why VGA anyway? Does HDMI not work?
[03:19] <designbybeck> this was for a LinuxMCE Core box, so it was going to be headless anyway
[03:19] <designbybeck> it only had VGA
[03:19] <designbybeck> i had put Kubuntu on there just to play with
[03:20] <designbybeck> I still haven't bought the rest of my hardware
[03:20] <designbybeck> so i was just playing with it
[03:20] <DaemonFC> fair enough, but VGA can do weird stuff with a LCD/LED display
[03:20] <designbybeck> Hmmmm
[03:20] <DaemonFC> if you have the option to use DVI, DisplayPort, or HDMI, it's better to do that
[03:21] <designbybeck> sadly no
[03:21] <DaemonFC> most displays and video cards try to compensate for the oddities of VGA, and usually get everything a bit wrong
[03:21] <DaemonFC> :)
[03:23] <DaemonFC> designbybeck: are you using any kind of font antialiasing?
[03:23] <DaemonFC> especially subpixel
[03:24] <designbybeck> what ever is the default
[03:24] <designbybeck> i don't know
[03:24] <DaemonFC> try disabling font antialiasing and forcing 96 dpi
[03:26] <designbybeck> where do i find that at?
[03:26] <DaemonFC> system settings / application appearance / fonts
[03:27] <designbybeck> Hey DaemonFC looks li ke that fixed it
[03:27] <designbybeck> Thanks! :)
[03:27] <designbybeck> it said might only affect newly opened windows
[03:27] <designbybeck> so some still have big fonts, but the system window i reopened and those fonts are correct now!
[03:28] <DaemonFC> I had a hunch. Usually the more specific you try to be over VGA, the more of a disaster it results in.
[03:28] <designbybeck>  Good to know
[03:28] <DaemonFC> logging out and back in will probably fix the rest
[03:28] <designbybeck> we'll i'm downloading LinuxMCE on this box right now so i'll wait for that
[03:28] <designbybeck> and by this box I mean the one that will be the core
[03:29] <designbybeck> not the one i'm chatting on
[03:29] <DaemonFC> Death to VGA, VGA boo!! bad VGA
[03:29] <DaemonFC> (bad!)
[03:30] <DaemonFC> none of my systems have used VGA since I went to LCD/LED displays
[03:30] <DaemonFC> I tried it out once and it led to some less than optimal results
[03:32] <DaemonFC> it's hard to get people away from 1980s technology when it comes packed with every monitor and it's the only "monitor cable" that Walmart sells
[03:32] <DaemonFC> by the time people are pried off of it, the world will have moved away from DVI anyway, and onto HDMI or DisplayPort
[03:38] <mosno> is asking about KDE apps as they relate to being run under Unity offtopic?
[03:52] <fahad_> hi
[03:52] <fahad_> Anyone here?
[03:53] <fahad_> I am going to ask about kde 4.8
[03:53] <designbybeck> what about it fahad_
[03:53] <fahad_> can i install it?
[03:54] <designbybeck> sure ;)
[03:54] <designbybeck> I did 12 times today
[03:54] <designbybeck> was updating a lab today
[03:54] <fahad_> Is it safe ?:)
[03:55] <designbybeck> yep
[03:55] <designbybeck> as far as I can tell
[03:55] <fahad_> How?
[03:55] <designbybeck> i've been running it on my main laptop for about a week
[03:56] <fahad_> plz giv me any tutprial and pros and cons
[03:56] <designbybeck> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[03:56] <designbybeck> sudo apt-get update
[03:56] <designbybeck> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:58] <designbybeck> then restart fahad_
[03:58] <fahad_> ok thanks.
[03:58] <designbybeck> i've gotta take off for now, good luck with it, if you have probs i'm sure someone can help you out
[03:59] <designbybeck> it has been good for me so far!
[03:59] <designbybeck> later all!
[04:24] <DasKreech> sizz: did you check the WineHQ appsdb ?
[05:16] <adflinux> este  es el chas en español??
[05:17] <adflinux> no veo q nadie  hablr!!
[05:17] <adflinux> hable!!
[05:17] <adflinux> ?'
[05:17] <Unit193> !es | adflinux
[05:18] <adflinux> Exelente!! grax!!
[06:23] <Axel-88> I am confused about Activities and Desktops. Some of the websites do not really explain it that well. Is there an in depth manual for how to order activities and desktops?
[06:29] <DasKreech> Axel-88: Order them?
[06:30] <Axel-88> sorry, i meant organize them.
[06:31] <DasKreech> Axel-88: Activites don't really need organizing
[06:31] <DasKreech> Desktops are organized with the pager settings
[06:36] <Axel-88> I dont know how to ask the question. I am fairly new to using Linux full time. I wanted to set my computer up so that it is divided between college classes, and everything else. I wanted to subdivide the classes into their own screens each independent. I keep stumbling with the desktops not being configurable so that each menu bar is different.
[06:39] <DasKreech> Axel-88: Ok tell me what you understand and I'll help you from there
[06:40] <Axel-88> Right now, for example-- I have set up four desktops under an Activity named Schooling. I want to set one desktop up with a normal menu bar. The other desktop without a menu bar but having some plasma widgets that launch some of the art programs.
[06:42] <Axel-88> The meny bar seems to respond to all four desktops, instead of just the one. I dont want it on another desktop, and the applications that are up on the first desktop, i dont want viewable while in the others. Does that make sense?
[06:42] <DasKreech> Axel-88: you right clicked the pager and under virtual desktop clicked different widgets for each desktop ?
[06:43] <DasKreech> Sorry Right click Pager -> pager settings -> Virtual Desktops -> different widgets for each desktop
[06:43] <DasKreech> Though I honestly don't know if that works for the panel :)
[06:44] <Axel-88> I found it. Yes, it is clicked.
[06:45] <Axel-88> I like the ability to split things up into activities.
[06:46] <DasKreech> I know that would work with multiple activites :-/ I've not tried that kind of Activity /Desktop / Activity nesting yet
[06:46] <DasKreech> Axel-88: By menu bar I guess you mean taskbar on the panel?
[06:48] <Axel-88> I think the term is Panel. The bar that goes across the bottom of the screen.
[06:48] <Axel-88> If i delete it in one desktop, it disappears in the other 3.
[06:48] <DasKreech> Right thats the panel
[06:49] <DasKreech> Yeah I think thats the general thing that happens now.
[06:49] <DasKreech> They may have a hidden config that stops that but I honestly haven't looked at that since KDE 4.2
[06:49] <Axel-88> Is there a switch somewhere that changes the panel?
[06:49] <DasKreech> I'd say ask in #plasma but they are all asleep (or just waking up) now
[06:50] <DasKreech> What do you mean changes the panel?
[06:51] <Axel-88> I was thinking of using one of the desktops as an artboard/brainstorming-board with just a picture and some widgets on it but no panel.
[06:52] <Axel-88> I found the switch that lets the Task Manager only report on what is open on each desktop. :)
[06:53] <rosco_y> Does anyone know of softare that would enable me to download mp3 files?
[06:55] <rosco_y> I'd like to download some of these files to my mp3 player so I could listen to them away from my pc:  http://www.archive.org/details/otr_cbsradiomysterytheater
[06:57] <DasKreech> Axel-88: Is that good enough?
[06:57] <DasKreech>  that's what I do myself :)
[06:57] <DasKreech> Though I do hide the panel
[06:57] <Lynoure> rosco_y: any web browser, right click, save. Or wget with the right command for all of  them
[06:57] <DasKreech> rosco_y: try kget
[06:58] <Axel-88> Yes, Thank you DasKreech. You were very helpful.
[06:59] <stranger_> rosco_y: after you download them on your PC, most mp3 Players are seen as normal thumb drives so you should see it in Dolphin(the file manager)
[07:01] <rosco_y> Lynoure, stranger_ -- thank you.  I tried right-clicking, the "save as" option isn't available for some reason (I was using chrome....I'll try with mozilla once.)
[07:01] <rosco_y> I take it back...I just didn't understand the "save link as" option
[07:02] <rosco_y> Thank you very much :)
[07:02] <stranger_> :)
[08:06] <ubuntu> somebody help me...
[08:07] <ubuntu> I wanna rescue some data from one partition to another partition
[08:09] <jonah> hi everybody. i'm having a problem installing vmware player. i'm on a new Asus zenbook which doesn't work great yet with linux so i installed kernel 3.3.0rc7 but now when i try install vmware player it says i have the wrong gcc version to what my kernel was compiled on. i've tried also install gcc-4-4-base as well but it doesn't seem to help. does anyone know a way around it? thanks for any help
[08:11] <ubuntu> jonah; i believe that these guys dont like to help : )
[08:11] <jonah> ubuntu: why what makes you say that?
[08:12] <ubuntu> i need help to rescue win7 partitions...
[08:13] <ubuntu> nobody hear me :~~~~~~~~
[08:14] <ubuntu> jonah: do you known how to use ntfdclone?
[08:14] <ubuntu> jonah: ntfsclone : )
[08:14] <jonah> ubuntu: hang in there. i've had so many problems over the years and someone in hear has always helped in the end. you just gotta keep asking and checking back when different people are online
[08:15] <jonah> ubuntu: sorry i don't know how to use windows
[08:15] <ubuntu> i`m in linux tooo
[08:15] <ubuntu> jonah; i`m in linux too
[08:16] <jonah> ubuntu: good for you. you'd be best ditching windows 7 completely really. it always just leads to trouble and problems from what i've heard...
[08:17] <ubuntu> jonah; the only problem with linux are the games : )
[08:18] <jonah> ubuntu: yeah they do suck - i don't think we have many gamers in the linux world so if good ones were released there wouldn't be enough sales
[08:18] <ubuntu> sun tsu; can you help me?
[08:19] <ubuntu> lets go to manuales...
[08:24] <ubuntu> somebody help me?
[08:36] <ubuntu> hi! i need help
[08:39] <amparanoid> I need help! Somebody help me?
[08:42] <Lynoure> amparanoid: help is fastest gotten by telling people what the problem is...
[08:42] <amparanoid> oh thanks!!!
[08:43] <amparanoid> I`m trying to back-up files from a partition to another partition, with ntfsclone, in my personal computer
[08:44] <amparanoid> lynoure; can you understand me?
[08:44] <Lynoure> amparanoid: yes, though I've never used ntfsclone myself.
[08:45] <amparanoid> hum...
[08:45] <Lynoure> actually, apt-cache search ntfsclone shows nothing...
[08:45] <amparanoid> i'm using a live cd of kunbutu
[08:46] <Lynoure> ah
[08:46] <Lynoure> go on.
[08:47] <amparanoid> ok ok, i'll read the manual of ntfsclone again...
[08:47] <Lynoure> amparanoid: I mean, what is the problem... you are trying to, but?
[08:48] <amparanoid> I have bad sectors problem with a extended partition of win 7
[08:48] <amparanoid> i checked all partitions with kunbutu`s partition manager
[08:49] <amparanoid> and, the software 'told' that I can rescue my data with ntfsclone
[08:50] <Lynoure> amparanoid: so far sounds sensible
[08:50] <amparanoid> but, i`m trying to make this comand: sudo ntfsclone -o /dev/sda5 /dev/sda6
[08:51] <Lynoure> amparanoid: If you have bad sectors in your disk, I'd recommend backing up to some other disk than that same one. Just in case.
[08:52] <amparanoid> i`m not in this case ? )
[08:52] <amparanoid> it's 3:00 am here, there's no shops openend rsrs
[08:53] <amparanoid> i wanna learn to use this comand, it's a opportunity
[08:54] <Lynoure> amparanoid: the command looks fine, but of course I don't know what your partitions are
[08:54] <Lynoure> amparanoid: so what happens?
[08:55] <Lynoure> amparanoid: copying to the same disk, in the worst case, will just make things worse. (some disk problems get worse with disk use) And it's going to be slow.  But, I get your point too.
[08:55] <amparanoid> the console returns? output device is too small to fit the NTFS image...
[08:55] <Lynoure> amparanoid: probably your destination partition is too small then.
[08:55] <Lynoure> amparanoid: what are the sizes?
[08:56] <amparanoid> sda5 == 70gb  and sda6 == 300gb
[08:57] <amparanoid> in my point of view, the destination is bigger than source
[08:57] <Lynoure> amparanoid: but in this command sda5 is the destination
[08:58] <amparanoid> serious? destinations cames FIRST???
[08:58] <Lynoure> amparanoid: check the man file...
[08:58] <Lynoure> Clone NTFS on /dev/hda1 to /dev/hdc1:
[08:58] <Lynoure> ntfsclone --overwrite /dev/hdc1 /dev/hda1
[08:59] <Lynoure> amparanoid: but I'd still seriously recommend going to sleep, getting a new disk tomorrow and only copying there
[09:00] <amparanoid> rsrsr
[09:00] <amparanoid> disks are very expensive in my country rsrsr
[09:00] <Lynoure> amparanoid: it would majorly suck if your disk gave up the ghost in a middle of a disk copy
[09:00] <amparanoid> but i`ve took your point
[09:01] <amparanoid> hahahahah
[09:01] <amparanoid> ok, change the command sounds funny
[09:01] <amparanoid> i`ll try
[09:03] <amparanoid> Lynoure; I had some progress here...
[09:03] <amparanoid> thanks a lot!
[09:03] <Lynoure> amparanoid: you are welcome :)
[09:04] <amparanoid> where are you from?
[09:06] <Lynoure> amparanoid: Finland
[09:06] <amparanoid> Brazil
[09:06] <Lynoure> amparanoid: I'm hoping to visit that country some day.
[09:06] <Lynoure> amparanoid: lots of good dancing there.
[09:06] <amparanoid> visite Amazonas, we have more wather than many countryes rsrs
[09:08] <amparanoid> I wanna go to yout part of europe, I've meet a sweeden girl last week... I believe that i like blondies...
[09:08] <amparanoid> *your
[09:10] <amparanoid> o/
[09:58] <hanasaki> is there a tablet that kubuntu will run on with finger gestures (like iphone/android)?
[09:59] <Lynoure> hanasaki: kubuntu or kde? I think Spark-Q or whatever it was called might fit the latter.
[10:00] <hanasaki> kde I guess.. gnome 3 is history for me.
[10:01] <hanasaki> Lynoure:  looking for linux (w/o android) for phones / tablets
[10:53] <Avihay> hanasaki: did you look at the plasma-active project? they list a few devices that they support, and they managed to get a manufacturer to produce the spark tablet with open hardware
[11:05] <hanasaki> I will check thnaks Avihay
[11:56] <nicklas_> hi. how do you make icon tasks not show full window previews when hovering with mouse over the icons/launchers in kde?
[11:59] <nicklas_> ?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> ' Morning all
[13:53] <excognac> hi all.
[13:56] <excognac> Just installed kubuntu, then updated but run out of battery , so it was interrupted then updated and upgraded again, and i do not have internet: the wee icon is crossed with red when ever i try to connect i can see the bar for half sec. and red again. any advices?
[14:08] <chuck_> hello wonderful people!
[14:09] <chuck_> I have a question about dual monitors with 11.04
[14:09] <chuck_> I can get it to work with twin view... but the KDE only seems to see one monitor... with a very very wide resolution
[14:09] <chuck_> also, when I tell a application to go full screen it goes across both screens
[14:10] <chuck_> so instead of twin view, I am using a seperate x server
[14:10] <chuck_> this works with the mouse, but not windows
[14:10] <chuck_> as in the mouse can cross the screens, but windows can not
[14:10] <chuck_> also KDE does not see a secondary monitor
[14:11] <chuck_> I am using a nvidia card
[14:39] <j3j5> chuck_: it works fine for me with 11.10
[14:39] <j3j5> I have two monitors and it works just fine
[14:39] <j3j5> but I don't have a nvidia, my card is Intel
[14:40] <j3j5> are you using KDE settings or NVidia settings?
[14:40] <chuck_> nvidia
[14:41] <chuck_> but I want the dual monitor support with KDE too
[14:42] <j3j5> I use the KDE system settings, but it recognises everything
[14:42] <j3j5> sorry I'm not really helpful
[14:47] <chuck_> thanks anyways :(
[15:04] <jcook_5xdata> Anyone know how to make Telepathy pop messages up
[15:18] <mantas>  
[16:28] <designbybeck> I'm almost done with my Kubuntu Public Access computer
[16:28] <designbybeck> I made  a "public" user today, when I tried to login with public/public
[16:29] <designbybeck> it said I needed to change the password!? I didn't see where to turn that off? I was also hoping I could have it just login to the desktop without having a password at all for basic, general use. Is this possible?
[16:29] <designbybeck> of course I will have the root/admin password secure and no one will have access that
[16:30] <`korvin> Hey, I'm trying to install xchat, and it says that it should be in aptitude
[16:30] <`korvin> but I'm getting package not found
[16:30] <`korvin> also my mysql failed to install, not it's trying to update the package (and failing) every time I use aptitude
[16:30] <`korvin> now*
[16:31] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,   ssh login ?
[16:31] <designbybeck> no
[16:31] <designbybeck> just a front end desktop basic user
[16:31] <designbybeck> It will be a public access computer in our library at the university BluesKaj
[16:32] <designbybeck> I've installed a bunch of useful and creative programs for people to use
[16:33] <BluesKaj> oh sorry , i thought you meant you couldn't autologin via ssh into the remote pc
[16:34] <BluesKaj> !reositories | `korvin
[16:34] <BluesKaj> !repositories | `korvin
[16:36] <basso> Hello!
[16:36] <basso> when i add the facebook widget, the entire plasma stuff crashes!
[16:36] <BluesKaj> `korvin,  aptitude is ok as a cli package manager , but apt-get is more up to date, and handles package dependencies more precisely
[16:37] <`korvin> I meant apt-get
[16:37] <`korvin> =/
[16:38] <DaemonFC> actually, aptitude is more useful for working yourself out of jams since it proposes possible solutions instead of saying "package needs blah, but won't be installed"
[16:38] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  what is meant by "public access" pw-less logins ?
[16:38] <EvilResistance> indeed
[16:39] <DaemonFC> but, aptitude is not for a novice user since the solutions it proposes could end up breaking the system
[16:39] <designbybeck> ah yes a pw-less login
[16:39] <DaemonFC> (which is probably why it was removed from Ubuntu by default to begin with)
[16:39] <designbybeck> BluesKaj:  the idea is to have anyone be able to walk up and use the computer and software without a username/password
[16:40] <ikonia> DaemonFC: stop making this ups
[16:40] <ikonia> the solutions it propose do not break your system
[16:41] <EvilResistance> designbybeck, you are aware of the security implications of such a setup, right?
[16:41] <shashik> can i change my muon package manager to ubuntu software centre package manager..??
[16:41] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  then why not setup autologin in systemsettings>login screen>convenience tab> and set the autologin there
[16:41] <designbybeck> nope, How so EvilResistance? if they aren't in a admin user group
[16:41] <ikonia> DaemonFC: I've warned you about making things up, if you have an issue and something to back that up, it's fine to discuss, if you want ot make things up and rant about it, it will not be tollerated - clear
[16:41] <DaemonFC> they can break your system if the proposed solutions want to remove certain packages
[16:41] <ikonia> DaemonFC: no
[16:42] <ikonia> DaemonFC: there are dependency checks
[16:42] <DaemonFC> and this is the case often enough that people who don't know what they are doing should leave it alone
[16:42] <designbybeck> I haven't seen that yet BluesKaj I will check
[16:42] <DaemonFC> it assigns each solution a score
[16:42] <EvilResistance> DaemonFC, i'm in agreement iwth ikonia
[16:42] <ikonia> DaemonFC: no
[16:42] <ikonia> DaemonFC: stop
[16:42] <DaemonFC> well, then you've never actually had it do that then
[16:42] <DaemonFC> good for you
[16:42] <ikonia> DaemonFC: I've not had it do that, because it doesn't do that
[16:42] <DaemonFC> it can and it does
[16:42] <ikonia> DaemonFC: discussion is great, but please stop just saying things so you can have a rant
[16:42] <ikonia> DaemonFC: please show me a bug logged for that
[16:43] <DaemonFC> I've seen it do that for years in both Debian and Ubuntu
[16:43] <EvilResistance> can you two stop bickering?
[16:43] <ikonia> DaemonFC: please show me a bug logged for that
[16:43] <EvilResistance> i know i'm not an op, but watching two people bicker isnt fun
[16:43] <DaemonFC> so I have a feeling it's meant for people who know what they are doing with it and will tell it to move on to the next proposal or exit if it doesn't offer any solutions that don't break things
[16:43] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  but you must put safeguards in so that only admin group users can make changes to apss etc , but I'm not real familar with that aspect of the user/group permissions
[16:44] <ikonia> DaemonFC: show me a bug logged for the issue you are complaining about
[16:44] <DaemonFC> if it has been going on this long, I don't think it is a bug
[16:44] <ikonia> DaemonFC: ok - so stop making things up
[16:44] <`Korvin> Hey, that fixed my issue with xchat, not I still have the issue with mysql server
[16:44] <`Korvin> it's not installing
[16:45] <DaemonFC> I'm not
[16:45] <shashik> Can i change my muon package manager to ubuntu software centre package manager..????
[16:45] <DaemonFC> when there's an unworkable dependency, aptitude will try to brute force its way around it, even if it means yanking out other packages in the dependency chain somewhere that are vital to the system
[16:45] <ikonia> DaemonFC: if a package manager had a issue that broke your system due to not being able to handle dependencies properly on correclty formatted packages, do you not think at least one bug would be logged ?
[16:45] <`Korvin> my mysql failed during installation, not everytime I try to install something it trys to install mysql-server which fails
[16:46] <designbybeck> EvilResistance: what besides changing the public users access groups could I do to improve security?
[16:46] <DaemonFC> usually what it means is that someone who is maintaining a repository you have software from has screwed something up
[16:46] <DaemonFC> I had it offer to remove Amarok the other day so it could upgrade amarok-common
[16:47] <ikonia> DaemonFC: ok - so the problem would be a package is not built correclty or has the dependencies not correctly assigned
[16:47] <DaemonFC> it does all kinds of stupid things, that just wouldn't have been fatal
[16:47] <EvilResistance> designbybeck, i'd start by having something routinely purge any user information and restore from a base setup.  rather than just have a perpetual storage of random users' information
[16:47] <DaemonFC> apt would just say there are broken packages in that case
[16:47] <designbybeck> ah, is this what the guest user in Ubuntu is?
[16:47] <DaemonFC> aptitude would ask you to remove like maybe hundreds of things
[16:48] <EvilResistance> designbybeck, i disable the guest user in Ubuntu on my system
[16:48] <designbybeck> i had tried a Ubuntu setup when i first started this project, and it seemed like the guest users info got cleared out after logoff EvilResistance
[16:48] <DaemonFC> of course that's not something you want a user running into if they don't know what to tell it
[16:48] <ikonia> DaemonFC: I suggest you log a bug against this then
[16:48] <ikonia> DaemonFC: see if you get it noticed and maybe even resolved
[16:48] <EvilResistance> designbybeck, indeed, thats basically what it is
[16:48] <BluesKaj> DaemonFC,  ikonia , lets not flame each other here , we're trying help and I'm sure this discussion is confusing for those needing help
[16:48] <EvilResistance> designbybeck, they have access to the software, but no saved data perpetually
[16:48] <DaemonFC> everytime I say anything it gets ikonia going
[16:48] <DaemonFC> the sky is blue
[16:48] <EvilResistance> BluesKaj, i know, right?  i'm about to call !ops on this
[16:49] <BluesKaj> EvilResistance,  ikonia is an op
[16:49] <EvilResistance> i know
[16:49] <`Korvin> I run sudo apt-get install aptitude, it installs then I get Setting up mysql-server-5.1 (5.1.58-1ubuntu1) ...
[16:49] <`Korvin> status: Unknown job: mysql
[16:49] <EvilResistance> thats what makes it worse
[16:49] <ikonia> EvilResistance: it's discussing a problem and the reasons behind it
[16:49] <EvilResistance> because an op is bickering with someone... and should know better
[16:49] <EvilResistance> ikonia, i dont see it as such
[16:49] <EvilResistance> ikonia, at times its gone into the range of bickering
[16:49] <ikonia> EvilResistance: that's unfortunate
[16:50] <EvilResistance> i'm sure that since BluesKaj has seen fit to point out its turning into a flame fest, that i'm nto the only one with this opinion
[16:50] <BluesKaj> `Korvin,  try sudo dpkg --configure -a , it might get rid of the nagging mysql install
[16:50] <ikonia> EvilResistance: I'm not questioning your opinion
[16:51] <`Korvin> BluesKaj,
[16:51] <`Korvin> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:51] <`Korvin> Setting up mysql-server-5.1 (5.1.58-1ubuntu1) ...
[16:51] <`Korvin> status: Unknown job: mysql
[16:51] <ikonia> `Korvin: looks like the upstart script didn't get installed
[16:52] <BluesKaj> `Korvin,  sudo apt-get -f install
[16:52] <`Korvin> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 386 not upgraded.
[16:52] <`Korvin> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[16:52] <`Korvin> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
[16:52] <`Korvin> Setting up mysql-server-5.1 (5.1.58-1ubuntu1) ...
[16:52] <`Korvin> status: Unknown job: mysql
[16:52] <FloodBotK1> `Korvin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:53] <`Korvin> thats from sudo apt-get install -f
[16:53] <BluesKaj> `Korvin,  do you have all repos enabled in your package manager ?
[16:54] <`Korvin> yes
[16:54] <`Korvin> is there no way to just revert all changes?
[16:55] <BluesKaj> `Korvin,  look in /var/log for errors , then you may need to remove broken dependencies that are listed connected to mysql errors
[16:56] <BluesKaj> Unknown job: mysql , is a mystery to me to be honest ...
[16:57] <`Korvin> BluesKaj, its just  initializing then shutting down
[16:57] <ikonia> check for an upstart job
[16:57] <ikonia> see if the job actually exists, looks like it's just not installed clean so can't see/isn't aware of the upstart job
[16:57] <`Korvin> I don't know how to do that =p
[16:58]  * BluesKaj watches and learns ...I hope :)
[16:58] <`Korvin> when I try to run mysql
[16:58] <`Korvin> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ mysql
[16:58] <`Korvin> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[16:59] <EvilResistance> `Korvin, do you have mysql server installed?
[16:59] <`Korvin> on further examination, that's just because the server isn't running
[16:59] <`Korvin> EvilResistance, that's what's failing to install
[17:00] <EvilResistance> `Korvin, did apt-get say *why*?
[17:00] <`Korvin> why it failed?
[17:00] <`Korvin> not that I know of
[17:00] <`Korvin> just how it failed
[17:01] <`Korvin> try to install it again, just status unknown job mysql
[17:01] <ikonia> `Korvin: I'l be with you asap, I'm juggling too much
[17:03] <`Korvin> heres an error message
[17:03] <`Korvin> let me pastebin
[17:04] <`Korvin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/854237/
[17:04] <`Korvin> brb
[17:08] <designbybeck> EvilResistance: is there a quick easy way to "setup" such a state for the computer? So it resets all the public users info? or discards it. There will be instructions that say thye must backup their work and take with them, beucase notthing ill be saved
[17:09] <EvilResistance> unfortunately i dont know how that'd be set up, but it'd be similar to the Ubuntu 'guest' account
[17:10] <designbybeck> well our IT will want to look at this setup i'm sure, even though they aren't controlling it, so I just wanted to have something to show them. I'll just let them know how the public account is not in an admin group and such
[17:10] <designbybeck> root group
[17:26] <BluesKaj> `Korvin,  one more thing to try , sudo dpkg --clear-avail , then update and upgrade
[17:29] <`Korvin> meh
[17:29] <`Korvin> tried installing a deb file, the installation hung where it tried to pull the mysql info
[17:29] <`Korvin> not  sure how to stop that process
[17:30] <`Korvin> says the database is locked
[17:32] <BluesKaj> you have broken dependencies blocking the dkg install process , you can try looking at the dependencies and removing them individually , it can be time consuming , but it works , sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends nameofpackage(s)
[17:34] <BluesKaj> `Korvin, , I recall having remove several broken depends when Libreoffice failed to install properly and was blocking dpkg
[17:37] <BluesKaj> `Korvin,  did you run  sudo dpkg --clear-avail as I suggested above ?
[17:37] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  Why not suggest "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[17:38] <`Korvin> yes
[17:38] <`Korvin> dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process
[17:38] <`Korvin> break time
[17:38] <`Korvin> brb
[17:40] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog,  we did that already , still locked
[17:40] <DarthFrog> Sounds like he might have a lockfile left behind after a program (dpkg) crashed.
[17:42] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog,  yup ,broken dependencies
[17:43] <BluesKaj> `Korvin,  this might be worth a try too , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:48] <`Korvin> BluesKaj, still says it's locked
[17:49] <BluesKaj> did you try removing msql ? i have to ask
[17:49] <BluesKaj> mysql
[17:50] <`Korvin> ye
[17:50] <`Korvin> yes
[17:50] <BluesKaj> or sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql
[17:50] <`Korvin> not that
[17:50] <`Korvin> one sec
[17:50] <`Korvin> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql
[17:50] <`Korvin> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:50] <`Korvin> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:51] <`Korvin> is there any way to override that?
[17:51] <`Korvin> will rebooting help?
[17:51] <`Korvin> etc.
[17:51] <BluesKaj> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:51] <`Korvin> didn't work
[17:51] <`Korvin> no ouput
[17:52] <BluesKaj> no output doesn't mean it didn't work necessarily
[17:52] <`Korvin> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) does
[17:52] <BluesKaj> damn'
[17:53] <BluesKaj> so maybe a reboot , but don't think that will help
[17:54] <`Korvin> alright
[17:54] <`Korvin> bbs
[17:55] <regisg> Hello, I've got a problem installing kdenlive. Packaging seems broken so I use this buildscript http://www.mltframework.org/twiki/bin/view/MLT/BuildScripts#Kdenlive
[17:55] <regisg> It works fine but I can't get it in french
[17:56] <regisg> Kde language settings is set to french, for country and prefered language
[17:56] <regisg> But when I start kdenlive, the language is American English.
[17:58] <regisg> There isn't any other language in the help menu -> switch application language
[17:58] <regisg> Does anyone have  knows how to fix this ?
[18:02] <`Korvin> BluesKaj,
[18:02] <`Korvin> looks like restart might have solved everything
[18:02] <`Korvin> xD
[18:05] <`Korvin> yep
[18:05] <`Korvin> installed fine
[18:06] <`Korvin> thanks for telling me to restart =p
[19:21] <nathanielfirst> hello
[19:22] <jcook_5xdata> hello
[19:23] <nathanielfirst> I have a technical help question. I am running kubuntu thru virtualbox. my kpackagekit insists on uninstalling random things i have installed whenevr i try to install new packages
[19:23] <nathanielfirst> does anyone know what this is?
[19:24] <nathanielfirst> like it has happened 20 times and i have a 30 gig HD (virtual disk image, vdi file, dynamically allocated)
[19:24] <Lynoure> nethanielfirst: random things? you are sure they are not conflicts?
[19:25] <nathanielfirst> hmmm. how often do things recommended by kpackagekit, community supported, truly conflict with each other?
[19:26] <nathanielfirst> cause this did happen a lot, and i think, i tried both 10.10 and 11.4 version of kubuntu, seems it would have worked
[19:28] <excognac> hi all
[19:28] <excognac> what is Qt in kded4 --version?
[19:32] <jcook_5xdata> whate version are you running
[19:32] <jcook_5xdata> 12.04 or 11.10
[19:36] <excognac> nope, it's about kde version then. I just downloaded kde 4.8 from ppa. So it needs a reboot to run then, correct?
[19:38] <jcook_5xdata> yes
[19:38] <excognac> wohooo. thanks
[19:39] <jcook_5xdata> also after you install the ppa did you run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:39] <jcook_5xdata> ?
[19:48] <excognac> sure i did
[19:50] <jcook_5xdata> excognac: cool
[19:51] <excognac> jcook_5xdata: have you tried 12.04 already?
[19:51] <jcook_5xdata> I have a ? for some one in the new 12.04 does anyne know a way to have Im pop a windows instead of the notification.
[19:51] <jcook_5xdata> excognac: yup
[19:51] <jcook_5xdata> excognac: running it now
[19:52] <toshiba> hi
[19:52] <toshiba> can anyone help  with changing desktop theme in lucid lynx? i'm a total nob
[19:52] <jcook_5xdata> excognac: not bad stable enuff for everyday use
[19:53] <toshiba> ?
[19:53] <excognac> jcook_5xdata: How stable it is? Especially officewise? I've just reinstalled the whole sys, previously I had a lot of problem with simply running openoffice
[19:53] <jcook_5xdata> do ou know where the themes are
[19:54] <excognac> toshiba: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-10-04-Desktop-Customization-Guide-146134.shtml
[19:55] <jcook_5xdata> excognac: I am IT  and I use it as my main desktop. Libraoffice does have bug (has been reported), but it only affects me when close it
[19:56] <jcook_5xdata> that for Gnome it will not work
[19:57] <jcook_5xdata> toshiba: there this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bRMx7uLRhk
[19:57] <excognac> jcook_5xdata: Ok, cos with 11.10 i have a lot of concerns: it simply closes itself while various type of files (e.g an odt and an ods) are opened, without saving. I talk about tiny files, less than 1 Mb each
[19:59] <jcook_5xdata> excognac: do you have open java installed? I had that problem because java was not installed
[19:59] <jcook_5xdata> excognac: install it and fixed the problem
[19:59] <excognac> jcook_5xdata: lemme check, this is fresh and crispy install
[20:00] <jcook_5xdata> I guess is no
[20:00] <jcook_5xdata> brbr
[20:04] <designbybeck> not sure how to find that out excognac
[20:04] <excognac> jcook_5xdata: ok. when you'll be back, just make sure: is that OpenJDK, right?
[20:04] <designbybeck> sorry
[20:05] <designbybeck> i am trying trying to figure out how to rip a dvd with k3D
[20:05] <excognac> designbybeck: to find out what?
[20:05] <designbybeck> to find the version of Qt
[20:06] <excognac> designbybeck: no worries, got it. kded4 --version
[20:06] <jcook_5xdata> yup
[20:07] <designbybeck> ah thanks excognac good to know
[20:07] <designbybeck> I've got Qt 4.7.4
[20:07] <designbybeck> Does anyone know how to rip DVDs with K3b? I see the option, but after you click it, it keeps asking about burning
[20:08] <excognac> designbybeck: yes. open it, Tools, and you should find it there
[20:08] <jcook_5xdata> designbybeck: try k9ripper
[20:08] <designbybeck> i found that much excognac but not sure what to do after that
[20:08] <jcook_5xdata> it in the repos
[20:08] <designbybeck> ok i'll install it jcook_5xdata thanks
[20:09] <jcook_5xdata> designbybeck: sorry k9copy
[20:09] <designbybeck> ah yes i was wondering
[20:09] <excognac> jcook_5xdata: shall i install the suggested packages as well?
[20:10] <jcook_5xdata> excognac: yes
[20:10] <excognac> jcook_5xdata: thx
[20:12] <excognac> jcook_5xdata: Package sun-java6-fonts is not available, but is referred to by another package LOL
[20:12] <jcook_5xdata> excognac: did it install or bail
[20:14] <jcook_5xdata> excognac: openjdl-6-jre
[20:15] <excognac> jcook_5xdata: this is for the java fonts?
[20:15] <jcook_5xdata> that package will install the openjava font
[20:17] <excognac> ok that's fine done! Thanx again, jcook_5xdata
[20:20] <excognac> jcook_5xdata: okkkkkk, I'll let you know in few days how successfull I was
[20:21] <excognac> jcook_5xdata: anyhow, your help is highly appreciated
[20:25] <hanasaki> how do you bring up the search bar that finds files usign nepomuk desktopsearch?
[20:25] <jcook_5xdata> alt+f2
[20:28] <hanasaki> thanks jcook_5xdata   does it accept wildcards?
[20:28] <jcook_5xdata> hanasaki: That i do not know sorry
[20:29] <hanasaki> thanks
[20:29] <hanasaki> jcook_5xdata:  any idea why when I turn on index file contents too it keeps reindexing the same files even if they don't change?
[20:32] <jcook_5xdata> hanasaki: nope you my find the answer on the Neomuk page http://nepomuk.kde.org/
[20:33] <hanasaki> thanks
[20:36] <designbybeck> thanks for the k9 jcook_5xdata it seemed to get the job done!
[20:36] <jcook_5xdata> designbybeck: sweet :)
[20:36] <excognac> wow that's crazy. I'm trying to install a dell printer with the provided cd. sudo sh install.sh seems to work fine. Sudden, when I specify the printer Kubuntu logs off!! how is that possible?
[20:36] <excognac> *suddenly
[20:37] <jcook_5xdata> cups is crushing the desktop
[20:37] <designbybeck> doing sh install.sh on a windows install disk for a dell printer driver works excognac? and least kinda?
[20:38] <jcook_5xdata> remove it and see if there is one provided
[20:38] <excognac> designbybeck: nope, this is a mule disk, also for linux. I think you can't run .sh under windows
[20:39] <designbybeck> what is a mule disk excognac?
[20:39] <excognac> designbybeck: for both
[20:39] <excognac> http://paste.kde.org/428012/
[20:42] <designbybeck> hmmm
[20:44] <excognac> sorry,  back again after 3rd time
[20:44] <excognac> What's wrong then?!
[20:46] <designbybeck> that is cool i didn't know kde had a pastebin
[20:46] <excognac> I can't bloody believe that i need to do more effort to install a printer than plugging it!!!
[20:47] <designbybeck> would be nice for photos too, i use http://pasteall.org
[20:47] <excognac> any advice on how to install a printer?
[20:48] <designbybeck> sorry i don't print much these days excognac, i had a dell 1301c color laser, it was hit or miss for me installing it
[20:48] <designbybeck> and since 11.04 i couldn't get it installed anymore so i gave up
[20:49] <excognac> designbybeck: That's wonderful. :(((
[20:50] <designbybeck> i think my prob was the 64bit
[20:50] <designbybeck> there was directions on the 32bit and it did show how to force arch, but that stopped working for me the last upgrade and i didn't go back
[20:51] <excognac> That's bad news. On the cd I have support for 32/64/noarch
[20:54] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  multiarch support should be installed by default
[20:57] <excognac> BluesKaj: any ideas how install a printer if running the .sh script on the cd simply logs me off?
[20:58] <BluesKaj> excognac,  .sh script on what cd ?
[20:58] <excognac> which was provided to the printer
[21:00] <BluesKaj> from where ?
[21:00] <Ezim> mabe it works if you copy the sh script to home and give yourself all the priv. for installing the printer.
[21:00] <excognac> or do I need to copy first the .sh script first on my hd chmod +x?
[21:01] <excognac> Ezim: that's what you were saying?
[21:01] <BluesKaj> excognac,  is there a readme file in the folder with .sh script
[21:02] <Ezim> excognac, exactly.
[21:02] <excognac> BluesKaj: i wsih there were
[21:03] <BluesKaj> excognac,  no install text file either i suppose
[21:04] <Ezim> excognac, have you tried hplip?
[21:05] <excognac> http://paste.kde.org/428036/
[21:06] <Ezim> excognac, http://localhost:631/admin
[21:06] <excognac> Ezim: hplip? no! how to?
[21:06] <Ezim> excognac, visit the website I linked.
[21:06] <Ezim> add your printer
[21:07] <BluesKaj> excognac,  is it an HP printer?
[21:07] <excognac> Ezim: sorry, I don't think you linked
[21:07] <excognac> Nope it's a Dell1130
[21:07] <Ezim> excognac, not listed?
[21:10] <BluesKaj> excognac,  did you try the printer configuration in system settings ?, I have to ask
[21:11] <Ezim> excognac, http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&DriverId=R267660
[21:11] <Ezim> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1610266
[21:14] <Ezim> excognac, worked?
[21:15] <excognac> ok successfully added in sys setting if I run the ./autorun logs me off !!!!
[21:15] <excognac> let's see if it works
[21:15] <Ezim> hope :)
[21:17] <excognac> ok with sys settings it prints a page: internal error, please use the proper driver
[21:18] <excognac> lets see the downloaded tar.gz
[21:18] <excognac> but first i should remove it, right?
[21:18] <Ezim> excognac, exactly.
[21:21] <designbybeck> anything other than unetbootin' for burning usb live iso's?
[21:21] <designbybeck> an not startup disk creator
[21:22] <designbybeck> because it isn't a ubuntu based distro
[21:22] <Ezim> designbybeck, liveusb
[21:22] <Ezim> designbybeck, search for it in omgubuntu/webupd8
[21:23] <Ezim> designbybeck, some distros need command line (dd).
[21:23] <designbybeck> thanks Ezim
[21:23] <designbybeck> i'm trying to burn LinuxMCE it is 3.3GB
[21:24] <Ezim> :) big iso
[21:24] <excognac> Ezim: same thing happens: logs me off from kubuntu if I run sudo ./autorun
[21:24] <Ezim> excognac, this only happens in kubuntu?
[21:24] <Ezim> have you tried this with other desktop env.?
[21:24] <excognac> Ezim: do you want me to use windows???
[21:25] <excognac> Nope, 'cos I'm not going to install any other desktop environment
[21:25] <Ezim> excognac, :) not really. want to know if this is kde specific or not.
[21:25] <excognac> Ezim: sorry for being harsh
[21:26] <Ezim> excognac, maybe it is kdm that are the problem.
[21:26] <Ezim> I am not sure.
[21:27] <excognac> Ezim: so I won't be able to use the printer on my present system?
[21:27] <Ezim> excognac, best way is to file bug report.
[21:29] <excognac> Ezim: what is the proper way to do so?
[21:31] <Ezim> excognac, do you have launchpad account?
[21:31] <excognac> sure
[21:31] <designbybeck> well Ezim I found it and installed LiveUSB it's not pretty, and not sure if you have to select the right distro on the list, but it looks like it is hung as well extracting files
[21:31] <Ezim> ubuntu-bug cups (bec. its printer related)
[21:31] <designbybeck> I hve downloadedd the distro 2 different times and even sumchecked it
[21:32] <Ezim> designbybeck, maybe the iso is to big for your usb
[21:32] <Ezim> excognac, write that in konsole.
[21:32] <designbybeck> i would try to burn it to a DVD but I don't have a dvd pllayer in that drive
[21:33] <Ezim> designbybeck, :) kubuntu is good, you do not need to search for any other distro.
[21:33] <excognac> Ezim: sorry, but again, how to?
[21:33] <designbybeck> i know and it looks like that is what LinuxMCE is based on top of
[21:33] <Ezim> excognac, open terminal and write: ubuntu-bug cups
[21:35] <excognac> ubuntu-bug cups
[21:35] <excognac> : Fatal IO error: client killed
[21:35] <Ezim> thats not good.
[21:37] <WildCatHendricks> hi
[21:38] <designbybeck> Hello WildCatHendricks
[21:38] <WildCatHendricks> new to kubuntu
[21:39] <Ezim> excognac, are you running kde 4.7.*?
[21:40] <excognac> Ezim: kded4 --version Qt: 4.7.4 KDE Development Platform: 4.8.00 (4.8.0 KDE Dæmon: $Id$
[21:41] <Ezim> excognac, do you have problem only when you try to use the printer
[21:41] <Ezim> or when you try to install the driver?
[21:43] <excognac> wait a minute: I've just dowloaded before this printer hystery the KDE 4.8 through ppa, installed it properly, so why does Qt says 4.74. ??
[21:43] <excognac> after ppa, obviously
[21:43] <excognac> and restart:)
[21:46] <Ezim> excognac, same here.
[21:47] <Ezim> excognac, qt 4.7.4 should be the latest.
[21:47] <Ezim> so thats not any problem
[21:51] <excognac> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/939850
[21:53] <excognac> Ezim: as far as know linux is famous since the beginnings for its great compatbility with printers...
[22:02] <BlouBlou> Hi, i need help with Kubuntu, when I open Muon, I get this message "Ejecutable: muon-installer PID: 7503 Señal: Segmentation fault (11)"
[22:02] <BlouBlou> Any idea?
[22:10] <excognac> BlouBlou: which version of KDE do you have?
[22:11] <BlouBlou> excognac: how can I check it?
[22:11] <excognac> kded4 --version in terminal
[22:12] <BlouBlou> excognac: kde 4.7.4
[22:13] <excognac> what would you like to do with muon?
[22:13] <BlouBlou> excognac: check updates (I know doing it from terminal, but I'd like to get Muon working)
[22:14] <BluesKaj> BlouBlou,  don't use muon until you upgrade and update in the terminal , once that's muon should be fixed , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:14] <BlouBlou> BluesKaj: let's try it
[22:15] <excognac> BlouBlou: BluesKaj is right. I had the same problem for a while, however, I prefer command line
[22:15] <BlouBlou> BluesKaj: I still get the error
[22:16] <BlouBlou> excognac: Meh, yes, I really prefer terminal too, but I don't like to have "broken apps" :P
[22:16] <BluesKaj> make sure muon isn't still running
[22:16] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:16] <excognac> BlouBlou: :) we agree
[22:17] <BlouBlou> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/854609/
[22:18] <BluesKaj> BlouBlou,  weel if you insist on using muon then the chances for broken dependencies are greater atm , than with apt-get
[22:19] <BlouBlou> BluesKaj: so, I need to reinstall all dependencies manually?
[22:21] <BluesKaj> BlouBlou,  no , just run this command , it should remove the block ,  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:21] <BluesKaj> BlouBlou,  then update and upgrade as I posted previously
[22:22] <BlouBlou> mhhh... again the error
[22:22] <BlouBlou> BluesKaj: I did it, and I still get it, heh
[22:22] <BluesKaj> ok then reboot
[22:23] <BlouBlou> Okay.jpg ;)
[22:26] <BlouBlou> BluesKaj: Nothing :(
[22:28] <BluesKaj> you didn't start muon again I hope ?
[22:28] <ku4e> can anyone help me configure my sound card on kubuntu 11.10
[22:29] <BlouBlou> BluesKaj: I did, and I still get the same error.
[22:29] <BlouBlou> it closes automatically giving me that error
[22:29] <ku4e> i can't figure out how to configure the line in channel
[22:31] <BluesKaj> BlouBlou,  don't start muon until the system has been updated and upgraded . like I mentioned before , you have to reboot again then do the updates/upgrades in the terminal first in order to bring the fix in the upgrades
[22:31] <BlouBlou> BluesKaj: But my system is updated, I did it and there are not updates avaiable
[22:32] <BluesKaj> then don't use muon if you don't have any updates , it's only a GUI for apt and dpkg which actually do the updating and upgrading behind muon
[22:34] <ku4e> anyone?
[22:34] <BlouBlou> BluesKaj: is there any other alternative to muon? Like update-manager on gnome
[22:34] <BluesKaj> ku4e,  which soundcard ?
[22:35] <BlouBlou> I know how to do it by using the "konsole", but I'd like to have a gui working
[22:35] <ku4e> let me check on that
[22:35] <ku4e> I think its realtek highdefinition 10channels
[22:35] <BluesKaj> then use synaptic BlouBlou
[22:36] <ku4e> k9n neo v2 chipset
[22:36] <ku4e> i have sound
[22:36] <ku4e> the drivers are working the indicator shows that it is receiving sound from line in but there is no sound on the output
[22:37] <BluesKaj> ku4e,  type alsmixer in the terminal , it will list your card in the top left , and you'll have access to your line in
[22:37] <BluesKaj> alsamixer , ku4e
[22:39] <BlouBlou> BluesKaj: I found KPackageKit, thanks for your help. :-)
[22:39] <BluesKaj> BlouBlou,  synaptic is the best IMO
[22:40] <BluesKaj> ku4e,  make sure your line isn't muted MM in the ctrl box , and use the arrow keys to set your volume
[22:45] <BluesKaj> BBL ....
[22:48] <ku4e> BluesKay thanks a lot
[22:48] <ku4e> I owe you one
[23:12] <glen_3b> Hello! I'm new to IRC, but am happy to help with any ubuntu problem :).
[23:13] <glen_3b> Or kubuntu, for that matter...
[23:13] <glen_3b> :)