[01:23] <sere> when i try to sync my iphone4 i got an error saying "Unhandled Lockdown error (-4)"
[01:24] <sere> any ideads
[01:25] <Unit193> I do not have any ideas about the problem, but I could recommend you try #ubuntu as there are many more people, they may know a better place to direct you, and there is a much greater chance of one of them owning an iPhone.
[01:42] <tibbers> i'm trying to figure out how to autorun a script on startup
[01:42] <tibbers> i made a script and i call it in autostart but nothing happens
[01:46] <tibbers> well, i am going to try changing ownership of the script file and see if that works. gotta reboot to test
[03:21] <bs> i was trying to install a program called freevo from synaptic but it failed. Here is the relevant portion of the log: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1929985
[03:21] <bs> i dont really know what to do about it
[03:22] <meemee> Hello!
[03:22] <meemee> I'm having trouble disabling screen lock with xscreensaver. I've tried disabling it through the gui and manually through xscreensaver-demo but it keeps locking the screen...
[03:24] <Unit193> bs: Seems a little like a bad package, but if you wait a little, someone that may know it should see that.
[03:25] <Unit193> meemee: Lock on wakeup?
[03:37] <meemee> Unit193: lock after exiting the screensaver
[03:39] <meemee> lock is set to false in my .xscreensaver file too
[04:03] <Unit193> meemee: Did you restart the computer/daemon?
[04:03] <meemee> yep
[04:08] <Unit193> Well, that makes a whole lot of sense there...
[04:09] <meemee> could it be reading a different config file somewhere?
[04:10] <Unit193> Shouldn't, and doesn't for me, but you can check with locate and grep.  There isn't something that's launching xscreensaver I'd guess? (Worth a shot...)(
[04:20] <meemee> couldn't find another config file. I killed the screensaver process and restarted xscreensaver from the command line and now it's not locking anymore
[04:20] <meemee> but I have the feeling it will go back to locking on computer restart
[04:21] <meemee> I will try right now! BRB
[04:31] <meemee> This is odd. When I activate xscreensaver manually (xscreensaver-command -activate) it doesn't lock the screen. But if I wait 5 minutes for it to activate, it does lock the screen.
[08:46] <Fudge> ep yep
[09:44] <FabianS> Hm. Who thought it would be a good idea not to show the actual partition sizes on the installation dialog of lubuntu?
[09:48] <iceroot> !bug | FabianS
[09:48] <FabianS> I doubt that's a bug.
[11:29] <ASAPASAPASAP> ASAP
[11:29] <ASAPASAPASAP> anyone here?
[11:30] <ASAPASAPASAP> I hope somebody will answer
[11:30] <Myrtti> well we don't know if we can help you if you don't ask your real question
[11:32] <ASAPASAPASAP> I can't find my start menu on the panel below
[11:32] <ASAPASAPASAP> it moved!
[11:33] <ASAPASAPASAP> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/814/201202231925321280x1024.png/ see the left bottom below
[11:33] <ASAPASAPASAP> none start menu!
[11:34] <ASAPASAPASAP> myrtti can you see
[11:45] <Guest55741> Hi all. Got a question. Is there an option in Sylpheed to edit a sent message as a new one?
[11:48] <Myrtti> I know Claws does
[12:10] <Guest55741> I used that option in Thunderbird quite often. Sylpheed should have it as well, I just didn't find it  yet.
[12:10] <Guest55741> Anybody knows if it's there?
[13:23] <iceroot> do we have a bug atm on 12.04 that all gtk apps (tested gedit and evolution) are black?
[13:23] <iceroot> imo my lubuntu-theme settings are all on default
[13:25] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lan-tunes/+bug/939454 seems to be fixed
[13:32] <iceroot> its not fixed
[13:35] <iceroot> maybe its this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/938472
[13:36] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-disk-utility/+bug/930719
[14:50] <AngelForget> sera a tutti
[15:59] <phillw> iceroot: the bugs in the artwork are being worked on, but may persist until after the beta 1 release.
[16:28] <iceroot> phillw: thank you for the info
[16:58] <kubanc> how do i restart GUI?
[17:04] <valdur55> openbox-lubuntu --replace
[17:04] <iceroot> kubanc: sudo service lightdm restart
[17:05] <iceroot> might be lxdm instead of lightdm, depending on your lubuntu-version
[17:06] <valdur55> after lxdm restart you need relogin and open all your programs again
[17:07] <valdur55> openbox-lubuntu --replace reloads lubuntu's window manager, and you don't need reopen all your items
[17:27] <iceroot> phillw: do you know the packagename which is causing this "black in gtk bug" so i can correct the bugreports
[17:27] <phillw> iceroot: afaik it is lubuntu-artwork, it is deffinately the artwork team who are working on it.
[17:31] <wxl> phillw, iceroot -- why do people keep suggesting it's gtk? wouldn't we have a problem with, e.g. pidgin??
[20:07] <bs> how do i rename a shortcut on the desktop?
[20:07] <bs> i tried the ways you would think of but it keeps staying the same
[20:08] <Flazer> right click and rename?
[20:08] <bs> yeah that doesnt do it, i mean it renames the file but the text under the shortcut doesnt change
[20:09] <wxl> bs: how did you make this shortcut?
[20:10] <wxl> better yet, bs, give me the results of doing an ls -al on it
[20:10] <Unit193> I'd say open the desktop file in leafpad.
[20:10] <wxl> so it's a desktop file
[20:10] <wxl> ahhh
[20:10] <bs> yeah, actually yeah i just went and edited it with sudo leafpad
[20:10] <bs> that worked
[20:10] <ptrkmj> I need to switch keyboard layouts. I've added "Keyboard Layout Switcher" to my panel but it doesn't work. I cannot change my layout to anything other than what's already set.
[20:11] <bs> the gui makes it look like you can rename it in the properties but the changes dont stick, so you gotta sudo open it in leafpad, i should have thought of that sooner
[20:11] <bs> oh yeah and... i guess a shortcut in linux is a link not a launcher
[20:12] <bs> thx
[20:20] <Pitmaster> Good day
[20:21] <wxl> howdy
[20:23] <Pitmaster> I can use some help with my network, is there someone who wants to help?
[20:36] <holstein> Pitmaster: sure... wifi?
[20:43] <Pitmaster> no, not the wifi that is broke. The wired doesn't go.
[20:44] <Pitmaster> arp -a give ? (192.168.0.2) at <incomplete> on eth0
[20:56] <bs> is there any way I could have the task bar be not "always on top", but also not be hidden when not in use?
[20:57] <bs> like, so if i have a maximized program, it will go over top of the taskbar, but if i minimize all programs, the taskbar will be visible without me mousing over it
[20:57] <bs> in otherwords, have the task bar be "always on bottom"
[21:13] <holstein> Pitmaster: i would run lspci and look for the network controller... i would search around for a bug relating to it... is it something that broke, or never worked? have you gotten online and upgraded?
[21:13] <holstein> bs: i thought there was a "allow to be covered" option... lemme look
[21:14] <holstein> Make sure you have ticked the "Reserve space, and not covered by maximized windows" property in the panel settings
[21:15] <holstein> bs: that is from http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions ...and i might be remembering settings from tint2 on my machine
[21:19] <sere> my rhythmbox closes with an error saying no jack  server found...i dont want to use jack server!!!!
[21:19] <sere> how can i change this
[21:19] <holstein> sere: i would look in the config, and make sure you have not asked for jack support
[21:20] <holstein> i would try and do the opposite from this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1008910
[21:21] <sere> holstein, i think it is not right because my banshee closes with the same error....where is the config or is they a gstreamer-properties
[21:22] <sere> i actauly was already there lol but i couldnt install gstreamer-properties ...couldnt find it
[21:23] <holstein> not sure... i use JACK all the time... and i use ALSA only all the time.. and pulse... never seen that error running rb.. what else have you done?... do you have another user account you can open and test?... will you try would audacious or with VLC to test?
[21:24] <bs> holstein: when i tick that, the taskbar is always visible and the maximized window fits into the space above it. What I want is for the maximized window to cover the taskbar
[21:25] <holstein> bs: yup... and thats what i have found happens when i select "dont reserve space"... other than suggesting another panel, i can only suggest troubleshooting and trying to get that option to work
[21:27] <bs> holstein: there's nothing called "dont reserve space", only a thing called "Reserve space". Are you saying I should have it checked or unchecked?
[21:27] <sere> holstein, audacious,vlc,mplayer, everything else pretty much works just fine ...i think if i could just get the sound server to use alsa or just the sound players it would work
[21:27] <holstein> bs: depends.. i would say you *dont* want it to reserve space, correct?
[21:27] <holstein> the way i read that... if it *doesnt* reserve space, then it should be able to be covered
[21:28] <bs> holstein: yeah thats logical
[21:28] <holstein> sere: likely.. did it ever work? or is this somehting that broke? do you have JACK installed?
[21:28] <bs> but if i uncheck it, then what happens is the maximized window goes *beneath* the taskbar, because it's like the taskbar is "always on top" know what i mean?
[21:29] <sere> holstein, never worked....i dont think so
[21:29] <bs> i want the taskbar to go behind the maximized window, not in front of it
[21:30] <holstein> bs: yup.. and i remember that being the behavior that i got... try messing with some more settings.. try from a live CD if you dont want to "break" it
[21:32] <bs> unfortunately i dont really see any other settings that would affect this
[21:32] <bs> maybe what i want to do is not possible
[21:33] <holstein> bs: yup.. i remember checking a box that didnt seem to effect it at all.. like "use as dock"? something like that
[21:33] <bs> yup
[21:33] <holstein> bs: no.. i had that going on... i remember... in KDE, and in openbox with tint2... you can always just use another panel
[21:33] <bs> definitely the wording of the setting suggests that the behaviour is *supposed* to be for maximized windows to cover the dock but they dont
[21:33] <holstein> bs: you can *always* do what you want with open tolls
[21:34] <holstein> tools*
[21:34] <bs> yes but if it requires me to like change the code and compile the OS or something that goes beyond what im willing to do
[21:34] <holstein> bs: this was back at 10.04.. i can try again when im home near and LXDE installation
[21:34] <bs> what i meant was, "possible to do with stock lubuntu"
[21:35] <holstein> bs: i did it with stock lubuntu
[21:35] <bs> when you say another panel, do you mean like some extra panel program i would have to install?
[21:35] <holstein> i just dont have it in front of me, or id already be telling you how
[21:35] <bs> right
[21:35] <bs> i see
[21:35] <holstein> bs: have to install?... you can install tint2 and use it instead.. thats an option
[21:38] <bs> for now i will just autohide the taskbar. Like, I dont "need" to have it the way I wanted, it was a pretty minor thing, but it would be cool
[23:06] <ignoredthoughts> So i can't figure out how to configure NetworkManager to work
[23:06] <ignoredthoughts> every time i type it in it comes back with nothing
[23:07] <ignoredthoughts> I'll click run then type in NetworkManager and zip happens
[23:07] <ignoredthoughts> and not the fun archiving kind
[23:07] <ignoredthoughts> setting up wireless was kind of a pain
[23:07] <Unit193> There's an icon in the desktop panel that works with it.
[23:08] <ignoredthoughts> and i can only get a visual of my wireless in my panel if i go to Network Connection and set it to wlan0
[23:08] <Unit193> `nm-applet` is the name.
[23:08] <iceroot> wxl: i just saw that all my gtk-apps are broken, so i thought its for all gtk-apps and related to that topic
[23:08] <ignoredthoughts> it seems to add a blank space in my panel next to the time
[23:08] <ignoredthoughts> i click on it and it says no network connection
[23:09] <ignoredthoughts> but i am connected because... well i'm here aren't I?
[23:09] <Unit193> Is this an upgrade, or new install?
[23:09] <ignoredthoughts> new install
[23:09] <wxl> iceroot: give me an example and i'll check out what my experience is here
[23:09] <Unit193> ifconfig and /etc/network/interfaces is a fun one.
[23:09] <iceroot> wxl: gedit, evolution, nm-applet, keyring-password-dialog
[23:10] <Unit193> are fun ones.
[23:10] <iceroot> wxl: lxpanel
[23:10] <ignoredthoughts> ifconfig?
[23:10] <iceroot> wxl: everything black
[23:10] <Unit193> Terminal command for info.
[23:10] <wxl> iceroot: uh lxpanel? how are these broken? just everything black?
[23:10] <wxl> wow that's craziness
[23:10] <iceroot> wxl: with the default theme, no
[23:10] <wxl> iceroot: roll back lubuntu-artwork and see what happens
[23:10] <ignoredthoughts> what am I looking for with that?
[23:10] <iceroot> wxl: but every else theme is "grey on black"
[23:11] <ignoredthoughts> just shoots back the information regarding my actual connection
[23:11] <iceroot> wxl: and where do i find the old lubuntu-artwork for 12.04?
[23:11] <wxl> iceroot: synaptic makes it easy to install older versions
[23:11] <iceroot> wxl: and where should that version came from?
[23:11] <iceroot> wxl: in the repos there is always only the newest
[23:11] <wxl> iceroot: um, the repos :D
[23:11] <iceroot> wxl: the repos only have the latest version of a package
[23:12] <ignoredthoughts> under my network connections if I choose wlan0 it brings up the icon showing my connection strength
[23:12] <wxl> iceroot: i think you're confusing the way apt works with what is actually available
[23:12] <ignoredthoughts> NetworkManager seems to be a blank square that says I have no connection
[23:12] <wxl> iceroot: i say this from experience
[23:12] <iceroot> wxl: /var/cache/apt/ was cleaned
[23:12] <iceroot> wxl: and apt-cache policy lubuntu-artwork is showing the latest version only
[23:12] <wxl> iceroot: naturally
[23:12] <iceroot> wxl: and in PACKAGES on the repos there is also only the latest
[23:13] <wxl> iceroot: you're asking it basically what's the latest version
[23:13] <iceroot> wxl: PACKAGES is providing what is available
[23:13] <iceroot> wxl: apt-get is ONLY reading PACKAGES
[23:13] <iceroot> that is what "apt-get update" is doing
[23:13] <iceroot> you cant rollback a package with the normal repos
[23:14] <iceroot> you need something like archives.debian.org for ubuntu
[23:14] <wxl> iceroot: i see 0.22~ppa8 as one such possibility
[23:14] <EvilResistance> well...
[23:14] <iceroot> wxl: ppa != main-repos
[23:14] <EvilResistance> in theory yo ucan roll back... but that's only a theory
[23:14] <wxl> iceroot: well that's besides the point
[23:14] <wxl> i've done this with thunderbird before, for example
[23:14] <wxl> from the main repos
[23:14] <iceroot> wxl: thunderbird is something different
[23:15] <wxl> ugh
[23:15] <EvilResistance> wxl, it depends on what the minimum version is available in the repos
[23:15] <iceroot> wxl: there you have thunderbird3 and thunderbird9 for example
[23:15] <EvilResistance> and thunderbird *is* something different
[23:15] <iceroot> wxl: a normal package only have the latest version
[23:15] <EvilResistance> iceroot, what is he trying to "roll back"?
[23:15] <EvilResistance> my scrollbacks are fragmented today
[23:15] <wxl> there was something else recently that i rolled back as well
[23:15] <wxl> but that's fine
[23:15] <wxl> that's what i would do if i were you but i'm not so i won't
[23:16] <iceroot> i will do some research on this bug tomorrow and will go to sleep now
[23:19] <ASAPanswerNOW> Hot to install empathy IM in lubuntu?
[23:20] <iceroot> !info empathy
[23:20] <iceroot> ASAPanswerNOW: sudo apot-get install empathy
[23:20] <ASAPanswerNOW> k tq
[23:20] <downbeam> doesnt it come on lubuntu
[23:20] <ASAPanswerNOW> can I have your baby
[23:21] <ASAPanswerNOW> no it doesn't you stupid downbeam
[23:21] <iceroot> downbeam: not by default
[23:21] <ASAPanswerNOW> downbeam=8
[23:21] <Unit193> ASAPanswerNOW: Be nice.
[23:21] <iceroot> ASAPanswerNOW: please leave this channel
[23:21] <ASAPanswerNOW> k bye
[23:22] <downbeam> i have empathy on lubuntu... and i didnt install it
[23:22] <downbeam> it might be a package tho
[23:25] <downbeam> bye room
[23:32] <pangolin> Not so sure telling people to leave the channel is the best way to handle rude users, but i do see why you did.
[23:32]  * pangolin moves on
[23:33] <iceroot> pangolin: i dont like !op so i think asking "with please" is a good way
[23:34] <pangolin> iceroot: right, it wasn't worthy of an op call. We should be trying to instruct users in the Ubuntu way.
[23:34] <pangolin> anyway, no biggie
[23:34] <iceroot> ok