| chetan- | just built another AMI from the latest lucid image (32bit) and its not working either. same error | 00:05 |
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| erichammond | chetan-: Please run ubuntu-bug on an instance of the same AMI and fill out the bug report on launchpad. | 00:35 |
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| chetan- | erichammond: created bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/939212 | 03:03 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 939212 in ubuntu "AMI created from latest i386 Lucid image fails to boot" [Undecided,New] | 03:03 |
| erichammond | chetan-: I assume you are the one who posted to the ubuntu-cloud mailing list. | 03:23 |
| erichammond | chetan-: I've added some comments to the ticket. It looks like it will probably get closed as not a bug with Ubuntu or the Ubuntu AMIs, but rather a deficiency in the Amazon command line tools (not copying the file system label when bundling an AMI). | 03:31 |
| chetan- | interesting. previous versions of the AMI (I think) had the ec2 AMI tools by default | 03:33 |
| chetan- | this go around I installed them via multiverse | 03:33 |
| chetan- | $ ec2-ami-tools-version -- 1.3-45758 20071010 | 03:34 |
| chetan- | i suppose thats a bit old? :P | 03:34 |
| erichammond | smoser or utlemming might be able to provide more details. | 03:35 |
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| chetan- | I guess I'll grab the official packages and try re-bundling | 03:36 |
| erichammond | chetan-: I'm using 1.4.0.1. The latest from Amazon is 1.5.2.4. Again, though it's not clear if Amazon incorporated the enhancement. | 03:37 |
| erichammond | (and now's the time when I strongly recommend using EBS boot instead of instance-store) | 03:37 |
| chetan- | erichammond: right, I'll give it a shot and let you know.. | 03:37 |
| erichammond | Everything is easier with EBS boot. | 03:37 |
| chetan- | erichammond: I've read your posts on the topic :-) | 03:37 |
| erichammond | :) | 03:37 |
| erichammond | You're hitting reason #8. | 03:38 |
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| smoser | chetan-, i suggest using ppa at https://launchpad.net/~awstools-dev/+archive/awstools | 12:31 |
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| nOStahl | hi all | 16:15 |
| nOStahl | hi all | 16:20 |
| nOStahl | it seems i can't find any writeups on the new openstack version vs eucalyptus installs? | 16:21 |
| nOStahl | can someone point me into the right way | 16:21 |
| SpamapS | nOStahl: they are night and day. :) | 16:25 |
| SpamapS | nOStahl: both are really hard to deploy though | 16:25 |
| nOStahl | a some continuity then :) | 16:25 |
| nOStahl | I'm gearing up to setup a 3 tower cloud soon | 16:26 |
| SpamapS | 3 tower? | 16:26 |
| nOStahl | one controller 2 nodes | 16:26 |
| nOStahl | I have some questions :) | 16:28 |
| SpamapS | nOStahl: you sure you do'n't just want to use libvirt? 3 nodes is not a cloud.. its a raindrop :) | 16:28 |
| nOStahl | hehe | 16:28 |
| nOStahl | raindrops still make splashes into a puddle :) | 16:28 |
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| nOStahl | so what I'm wondering, if I have the two nodes | 16:29 |
| nOStahl | and multiple instances running | 16:29 |
| nOStahl | are the instances mirrored on each node? | 16:29 |
| nOStahl | what if one node dies etc. | 16:30 |
| SpamapS | mirrored? haha | 16:30 |
| SpamapS | nOStahl: the idea of the cloud is that your app takes care of redundancy | 16:30 |
| nOStahl | there is virtually no documentation out there lol | 16:30 |
| SpamapS | Thats just not true | 16:31 |
| SpamapS | in fact the proble isn't no documentation, its too much | 16:31 |
| SpamapS | nOStahl: http://docs.openstack.org/ | 16:31 |
| nOStahl | ty | 16:32 |
| nOStahl | so the "nodes" i have are dual core with vt , 2 gigs ddr2 ram | 16:32 |
| nOStahl | have not bought hard drives yet for them | 16:33 |
| nOStahl | optiplex 760 I think they are. | 16:33 |
| nOStahl | and another dual core / 2 gig ddr2 machine for the controller | 16:34 |
| nOStahl | here's what i'd like to do, i'd like to run a web server , email server and be able to launch instances to test new projects i.e. a different mail server setup and what not. | 16:36 |
| SpamapS | nOStahl: 2gigs ? so you're going to run.. 1 VM each? | 16:39 |
| nOStahl | that could serve a lot of websites in standard server config | 16:40 |
| nOStahl | the machines can be upgraded to max of 8 gigs eventually | 16:40 |
| nOStahl | ddr2 memory is crazy expensive right now heh | 16:41 |
| SpamapS | nOStahl: serve a lot of non-scalable websites. yes. :) | 16:41 |
| SpamapS | nOStahl: for what you're spending on hardware, you could just use Linode, Rackspace, or EC2, and not have the management headache of running your own OpenStack. If you just want to learn though, yeah what you have will let ou earn. :) | 16:42 |
| nOStahl | learning is primary | 16:43 |
| nOStahl | I live near state surplus | 16:43 |
| nOStahl | bought each tower for 10-15 bucks a piece :) | 16:43 |
| nOStahl | so as I understand it, the nodes do not need terribly large hard drives? | 16:44 |
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| nOStahl | ok guys, I got three towers, all 2 gigs of ram ddr2 and dual core procs with vt enabled what size hard drives would you put in each of the towers to start a small cloud | 20:13 |
| nOStahl | hi guys would two of these in raid 1 work well for a starter cloud controller http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Western+Digital+-+Caviar+Green+WD15EARX+1.50+TB+3.5%22+Internal+Hard+Drive/3768098.p?id=1218431526258&skuId=3768098 | 22:34 |
| SpamapS | nOStahl: if you can fit more, smaller drives, that will be better | 22:40 |
| nOStahl | I'm using an hp dc5750 for my controller | 22:40 |
| nOStahl | and optiplex 760's for my nodes | 22:41 |
| nOStahl | this will be my first foray into the world of raid :) | 22:41 |
| nOStahl | not sure what all type of raid is supported | 22:42 |
| nOStahl | let me see if I can find out | 22:42 |
| SpamapS | nOStahl: well any type, since you'll just use the filesystem on top of the RAID | 22:43 |
| nOStahl | I'm not sure how many sata connectors there are in the tower | 22:43 |
| nOStahl | ok I can do raid 0 or raid 1 | 22:44 |
| nOStahl | hrmm its 1:4,000,000 chance that two hard drives will fail it says heh | 22:46 |
| SpamapS | nOStahl: use RAID1 unless you really plan to just throw the whole thing away the moment one hard drive fails. | 22:47 |
| nOStahl | aye raid1 is what I'm interested in | 22:47 |
| nOStahl | there's 4 sata connectors on the mobo | 22:48 |
| nOStahl | so here's a question SpamapS | 22:51 |
| nOStahl | with the controller i'll be using it for the storage space as well initially | 22:51 |
| nOStahl | do i want to partition the raid for the OS ? | 22:52 |
| nOStahl | or do I do another independent hard drive for the server software | 22:52 |
| nOStahl | and have the raid for the storage | 22:52 |
| nOStahl | ah here we go http://www.hp.com/sbso/solutions/pc_expertise/article/raid-dc5750.pdf | 22:56 |
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