[00:00] heh [00:00] man [00:00] you know what band is awesome and I had no idea? [00:00] UFO [00:00] they totally rock [00:00] it's like on the Boneyard every hour [00:01] haven't heard a lick [00:01] will check it out [00:02] jcastro: You checked out Yes or King Crimson? [00:02] yeah [00:02] nothing sticks out at me yet [00:03] Not sure what happened, but in the last year I've picked up substantial bits of their catalog [00:03] but it's in my rotation [00:03] CLoser to the edge [00:03] pick up the whole album [00:03] and Yes Album [00:03] so I don't know what it is about Yes I don't like, maybe it's just me, but it sounds "overproduced" [00:03] Bah, I mean Close TO THe Edge [00:03] if that's even a word [00:03] it's like, too .... you know [00:04] 90125 was overproduced [00:04] "fake" I guess? [00:04] (but I like that) [00:04] Trust me, they're not fake [00:04] it sounds like freaking Roll the Bones [00:04] where they don't even sound like real instruments [00:04] WHat's wrong with RTB? [00:04] just like a bit too perfect. [00:05] where it doesn't sound real [00:05] ok, RTB was over the top, maybe more like Presto, that one sounded too synth [00:05] the remaster is a titch better [00:05] I hear you. I kinda lost faith during thatperiod [00:06] Test for Echo was a real crisis of faith [00:06] well, it just sounds like Yes is one long Alan Parsons Project to me [00:06] Dude, Yes Album. Pronto [00:06] but hey, I've never gotten into prog so I'm just dipping my toes [00:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yes_Album [00:07] jcastro: Oh man... OK [00:07] MAybe that's extra strength then if you're not used to it [00:07] snap-l: if I tell you something do you promise not to make fun of me? [00:07] though I am sure jono will [00:08] just between you and me [00:08] promise [00:08] I got this for Jill [00:08] http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Beyonce-The-Beyonce-Experience-Live-Blu-ray/668/ [00:08] and it's basically awesome [00:08] I've watched it _5_ times [00:09] This does not surprise me [00:09] You like concerts [00:09] doesn't matter what the material is [00:09] I got Adele's too, from Royal Albert Hall, but radio killed those songs for me so I can't enjoy it as much [00:10] snap-l: did you get the Bonn Scott BR like I told you? [00:10] i have not [00:10] man dude [00:10] got Opeth and Yes instead [00:11] like a boss [00:11] It was filmed like 2 months before he died [00:11] and other than not being letterbox it looks like it was made yesterday [00:12] I got DOuble Live Dynamo by Exodus. [00:45] balloons, any word on if LPlib lets us get the info we need? [01:16] mhall119, you there? [01:17] jono: yeah [01:17] trying to get a unity build environment setup [01:17] mhall119, did you set up a wiki page to gether things we want folks to do on the UGJ [01:17] what are you working on? [01:18] jono: yeah, it's at the bottom of the global jam page [01:18] jono: I wanted to see what it would take to make Unity re-read it's lenses without having to be restarted [01:19] mhall119, fancy :-) [01:19] heh, we'll see [01:19] me and C++ get along like lime and coconut [01:30] I'll have your juju section for the page tomorrow [01:30] since it's really just the charm contest [01:31] and the askubuntu guys have a set of tasks [01:31] all I have left to do is transcribe snap-l's Michigan UGJ interview and then do Mexico [01:39] Man, you're going to be sore after doing MExico [01:39] ba-dum-TISH [01:49] thanks jcastro [01:54] snap-l: in hindsight I should have mailed you questions [01:54] and made you write [01:54] instead of me [01:54] but I love you bro, [01:57] jono: thanks! [01:58] jcastro: Heh. :) I'm a better writer than speaker. :) [01:59] jcastro: But thank you. :) [02:00] * mhall119 is now able to run Unity from trunk! [02:00] * mhall119 feels kind of awesome right now [02:03] * jono plays with launchpadlib [02:04] mhall119, nice! [02:05] C++ is still scary though [02:05] but I'm going to play around with it anyway [06:42] jcastro I am now [06:47] Morning AlanBell [06:55] when does early become late anyway? :-) [06:55] or I should say late becomes early [06:59] balloons: I suppose its when I say good night :P [08:13] good morning [08:26] good morning all [08:49] aloha [09:14] o/ [09:50] ok, it looks like the construction works next door are continuing today - so I'll move somewhere else for work [09:50] see you later :) [11:09] am so tired today, need weekend to come so i can just sleep [11:53] o/ [12:16] oh for petes sake. [12:16] open office you !"#¤%& (yes, it crashed) [13:30] popey: I guess ICS is rolling out to TF101's [13:30] I should have it soon! [13:34] heh [13:35] * popey switches one on to find out [14:13] jcastro: that is what was reported [14:13] Taiwan first though [14:13] yeah I have nothing yet. [14:13] the TF201 had it already [14:13] but the TF201 had wireless and GPS issues [14:13] I will try to avoid refreshing it every 5 minutes, heh [14:13] I was so damned disappointed [14:14] yeah, I need the GPS [14:14] it's so great in the car when driving [14:14] I just hold it for my wife and she drives along [14:14] man... looking like another re-fi might be in order too. [14:14] rates hit 4.1 today [14:42] jcastro, is this official https://plus.google.com/109091305842368633411/ ? [14:43] no clue [14:43] oh it is [14:43] I see the manage button [14:43] yes [14:43] ok [15:05] jcastro: pushed your LA call out a bit more on G+ [15:05] LA? [15:05] I am really surprised we have no teams involved [15:05] Latin America [15:05] oh, latin america [15:05] yeah I am about to send them all another mail [15:05] and post my -michigan interview [15:05] cool [15:05] had to get this contest launched [15:06] http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2012/02/juju-charm-contest-help-bring-free-software-into-the-cloud/ [15:06] tell a server buddy [15:13] man [15:13] 99 likes on facebook already on the juju contest [15:13] nice [15:13] I wanted to do an art contest, but had no idea how to set such a thing up [15:21] cprofitt: maybe ask the design team and talk to them, thats their area [15:47] hah, I guess that database error means the forums upgrade is in progress [15:47] you hope. :) [15:48] jcastro: Now it might be worthwhile for me to write a charm [15:48] :D [15:50] meeting now? [15:51] ladies and gents, good morning :-) [15:51] jcastro, UGJ I think [15:51] balloons, hows the beta1 work going? [15:52] haha, funny you should ask [15:52] it's going to be a ppa.. just made that decision with didrocks and dholbach [15:52] balloons, please merge from lp:~dholbach/+junk/checkbox-beta1 [15:52] they brought up some legit concerns [15:52] balloons, ok, we can maybe shoot for on the disc for B2 [15:53] which concerns? [15:54] i'll forward you the email [15:54] however, we'll get a shout out in the release notes [15:54] so that will be something :-) [15:55] jono, yes B2 for sure [15:55] gotta happen :-) [15:55] balloons, awesome [15:55] how complete is the package for B1? [15:56] how complete? [15:56] jono, I'm not the authority to make decisions, but to me it seemed that 1) lots of hoops to jump through to get it in (sponsorship, release team ACK, archive admin review, MIR review so you get it into main, change ubuntu-desktop to depend on it, respin CDs), 2) it would probably be good to have a more generic package which lets you test things whenever we want stuff tested, and otherwise says "nothing being tested right now." [15:56] - this way the user wouldn't end up with a number of different checkbox- packages and we wouldn't have to go through the approval process every single time - that's all that I thought when I first read about it [15:57] ^ [15:57] balloons, I added some packaging fixes in lp:~dholbach/+junk/checkbox-beta1 [15:57] ok, [15:57] if you merge them I can run you through the process of uploading it to a ppa [15:57] let me try and merge [15:57] dholbach, agreed [15:57] balloons, complete as in, how many of the tests are in there [15:57] ahh [15:58] dholbach, jcastro, dpm, balloons, mhall119 UGJ in 2m [15:58] I did three apps last night.. nautilus, shotwell and gedit [15:58] balloons, cool [15:58] then I started on the coding stuff [15:58] so I guess it being a PPA gives you a little more breathing room too [15:58] sadly some of the tests where in worse shape than I thought [15:58] but yes, ppa means we can get more in there [15:58] balloons, shocked face :-) [15:59] balloons, you should reach out to ubuntu-devel to ask for devs to provide tests in the packages you care about [15:59] nice work balloons, dholbach! [15:59] balloons, 1) https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA - 2) http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/getting-set-up.html [15:59] k merged [15:59] rock and roll [16:00] balloons, let me know if anything is unclear in the docs - also some of the steps you will very likely have done already [16:00] ok.. let's see what happens [16:03] jono, btw, looks like I can't make the global jam call happening now [16:03] balloons, np [16:04] jono: I keep getting an error, let me just restart, be there in 2 ticks [16:04] jcastro, np [16:11] jcastro: What is Dave Lawson nick? [16:11] technoviking: deej [16:12] jcastro: thanks [16:12] good luck [16:12] lmk how it goes! [16:29] I'll head back home and work the rest of the time from there - brb [16:38] jcastro: will do, turn out I have half-admin, missing one set of permission [16:39] ooh, maybe s-fox can help? [16:39] ping? [16:39] already spoke with technoviking jcastro [16:39] ;) [16:39] \o/ [16:40] I am not sure on the missing permission. lol, i have been trying to contact another admin... [16:40] I would also add that canonical do have a super admin account setup, why not use that? [16:40] Looks like it is sorted for technoviking jcastro [16:40] \o/ [16:41] deej should have that permission then [17:03] mhall119, invite sent [17:03] dholbach, I'm back at packaging this.. will let you know how it goes [17:04] balloons, it should be packaged alright already [17:04] in the branch run: [17:04] bzr bd -- -S -sa [17:04] cd .. [17:04] pbuilder-dist precise build checkbox-beta1*.dsc [17:04] ege [17:04] hehe.. gpg key [17:04] where did I put that thing.. [17:05] ~/.gnupg? [17:05] at least https://launchpad.net/~nskaggs says you have one [17:05] did you follow the instructions in the "getting set up" article? [17:06] that's what i was in the middle of doing [17:06] i believe that gpg key is from my laptop [17:06] that's the issue [17:07] you can just copy the whole directory over [17:07] should be fine [17:07] yea, I'll have to go grab it from the lappy [17:08] you might have to add your canonical.com address as a key id to your gpg key [17:08] hum [17:08] when you said you merged my changes - did you also push them to lp:~nskaggs/+junk/checkbox-beta1 again? [17:09] it's pushed now :-) [17:09] sweet :) [17:09] it was only local [17:11] hum, still can't see the changes [17:12] i'll push again [17:12] try it again [17:12] yeehaw [17:14] hmm [17:18] this is fun.. once this is set, i'll try and dholbach [17:19] balloons, I think I just found a few other small mistakes - but you can just go ahead for now [17:19] it's gonna take me a bit to get the key [17:19] so.. have at it [17:19] :-) [17:20] i think it's EOD for you soon? [17:22] yeah, I need to sort a few other things out as well [17:33] jcastro: all done other than fixing icons [17:33] wait what? [17:33] define done? [17:33] the upgrade is done? [17:34] We've had a partial upgrade to address a security hole [17:35] glad to hear at least that was taken care of :) [17:35] oh ok, so the 3.x upgrade then [17:35] ok [17:35] I don't like having other people reading my emails +1 pleia2 [17:35] * pleia2 nods [17:35] fix a security hole, now the vB4 can procde soon [17:35] hope hope hope [17:35] afaik they said the 4.x upgrade was being done in parallel [17:37] s-fox: any change, deej said the icon have been replaced [17:37] I'll clear my cache [17:38] jcastro: can't answer that [17:38] balloons, I pushed some more changes - can you please merge them again? [17:38] well that's what they said last time [17:38] balloons, also for now I'll upload the package I have now to my PPA so you can have a look at it and see if it's alright - generally it'd be better though if you could upload it to your own ppa, so you don't need to block on me [17:38] technoviking, No change :( [17:39] balloons, just let me know how I can help and I'll have a look at it tomorrow again [17:39] s-fox: squid issues [17:39] may take a few minutes [17:39] Okay, I will check again in a few [17:40] technoviking, It may be covered by the changes with the icons, but the fav icon seems to have been overwritten [17:42] balloons, my ppa: https://launchpad.net/~dholbach/+archive/ppa/+packages - the builds: https://launchpad.net/~dholbach/+archive/ppa/+build/3235161 (amd64), https://launchpad.net/~dholbach/+archive/ppa/+build/3235162 (i386) [17:42] my fav looks right [17:42] dholbach, thanks, you've been helpful [17:43] i've got more work to do as well.. so if you've gotten it to build, I can check that off. thanks! [17:43] balloons, well - it'd be good to test and see if it works ;-) [17:43] technoviking, I have the vBulletin fav icon after i cleared my cache. [17:43] yes, exactly [17:43] balloons, drop me an email with what you're missing and I'll get to it tomorrow morning [17:43] before I go crazy [17:45] dholbach, essentially I've got more tests to add [17:45] and a couple possible code changes to make :-) [17:45] i'll keep you informed [17:45] thanks! [17:45] rock on [17:45] I will ping them in an hour if the icon don't straigten out from the squid cache [17:47] awesome.. it built finally [17:47] :-) [17:47] fav icon should be fixed, looking at other icons [17:49] Confirmed, fav icon is back technoviking [17:49] balloons, you will need to merge from lp:~dholbach/+junk/checkbox-beta1 again to make it work [17:49] the vala code never compiled [17:49] kk, will do [17:50] sweet [17:50] and now to some FixIt Friday propaganda [18:01] dholbach, I don't see how to actually make a ppa on those two pages.. I'm assuming I can use the lp link to doso https://launchpad.net/~nskaggs/+activate-ppa [18:02] https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Activating_a_PPA [18:02] so, yeah :) [18:02] lol yea [18:02] i read that [18:02] and it tells me nothing [18:02] imho [18:03] balloons, I just sent you an email regading the data scrape [18:03] it makes sense now.. but it's a bit confusing.. something more straightforward like.. hit the activate ppa link on your profile page for personal ppa, or on your teams page for team ppa.. and something about filling out the form, or things you need to do it, etc [18:03] feels really lacking [18:04] i mean, what pre-requsities do I have to have to activate a ppa? [18:05] s-fox, kk.. I will have a look [18:05] Thanks balloons [18:16] jcastro: ping [18:21] yo [18:26] RTs etc. of FixIt Friday news would be appreciated. :-) [18:26] jcastro: hey, I'm going to be blogging about how to submit these quicklist changes upstream, do you have any good resources on that process I can reference? [18:26] one sec [18:26] I think I might [18:27] alright my friends - time to call it a day [18:27] see you all tomorrow [18:27] hugs [18:27] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerUsers/Quicklists [18:27] though that's probably worthless for you now [18:27] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=642567 [18:27] Gnome bug 642567 in screenshot "Add Unity quicklist support" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] [18:28] here's an example [18:28] that's all I got [18:28] jcastro: how about any generic "This is how you should send your changes upstream" [18:28] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-power-users/2011-May/000025.html [18:28] not really [18:28] the few we had didrocks did [18:30] heh, didrocks told me to ask you [18:30] hah [18:30] ok, I think I've got enough for a post anyeay [18:30] yeah, maybe bilal might know? [18:30] he did a few [18:48] jcastro: they are preparing for the vB4 upgrade soon on new hardware [18:54] ah, nice! [19:33] bodhizazen, Brainstorm team is to collect ideas about developing or changing applications right? [19:48] snap-l: email in your decafbad address [19:48] with the draft post. [19:48] All I need to do is add the pics [20:15] jcastro: pm for cleaned up transcript. [20:48] snap-l: http://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/02/23/how-ubuntu-michigan-runs-jams/ [20:53] Danke. :) [21:05] <-- picking up laptop from repair shop, bbi 15 minutes [21:05] this whole daily updating thing is not going well for me - so today I updated and now my computer it couldn't open a lock file and then unable to lock the admin dir and asks me if I am root... I am so about to give up testing anything this cycle...arrrrrr.... [21:08] akgraner, [21:09] * balloons as no words [21:09] I am about to throw this computer at this other graner I know [21:10] I have to laugh - I don't think this happens to anyone but me [21:11] akgraner: There's usually a cycle where your machine just goes to pot [21:11] At which point you simply format, reload, and try try again [21:11] yep - but luckily I learned - I have a main machine and test machine now :-) and it's the test machine that is rebelling [21:12] At least it's not the main machine. :) [21:12] snap-l, I just re-installed it yesterday - wiped the thing and started over [21:13] :-) [21:16] akgraner: Well, I got nothin' [21:16] ;) [21:16] I hope it's padded, for the other graner's sake. [21:17] :-) [21:18] blame the hardware.. the other graner.. or both :-) [21:20] jcastro: I don't hear the Rush in Ides of March [21:20] Other than the drum sounds are similar to Bytor And the Snow Dog [21:21] but just for a second. :) [21:24] balloons, what's the latest? [21:25] I'm hungry [21:25] lol [21:25] I'm Jono, nice to meet you [21:25] lol.. [21:25] badum-tish! [21:25] nice.. [21:25] ok, you win [21:25] it's all about the comedy [21:25] how are we doing, test-wise? [21:26] umm, so the plan is to have this ready for Monday if not sooner [21:26] cool [21:26] balloons, let's have a quick G+ in a bit [21:26] other pieces might fall into place on Friday [21:26] sure sure [21:26] maybe in 20? [21:26] umm.. [21:26] I might have a call then, but can figure out a time [21:26] I am free now [21:27] balloons, lets do now [21:27] in 20 I may not be.. in 40 I definitely won't be :-) [21:28] balloons, invite sent [21:28] woo hoo - pete fixed it - he said it was an archive skew - now it's updating nicely :-) [21:29] now I can finally test something /me is happy :-) [21:29] let's try that again jono [21:30] balloons, invited again [22:06] :q/w 34 [23:04] the Ubuntu Classic project has been registered. Does everything look good? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-classic [23:04] hey mhall119 [23:05] hey jcastro [23:05] no UGJ florida page yet? [23:05] also, what time are you thinking about having it? Jill and I were thinking of just making a weekend out of it, going to Epcot, etc. [23:06] jcastro: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/1445/detail/ [23:06] just no venue yet, so it shows under "Events without a Venue" [23:06] jcastro, can you go in and add the +1s for Ubuntu Members and those who have not been to UDS before to the sponsor applicants list [23:07] I need to be given rights for that [23:07] jono: should I switch uds-q over to "review" state now? [23:07] mhall119: ^^ [23:07] mhall119, please [23:07] thanks jcastro [23:08] mhall119: can you give me review rights? [23:08] jcastro: check now [23:09]