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| * ppisati -> reboot | 09:33 | |
| apw | arges, you still got the electric blue notifications? ppisati seems to have them too | 09:45 |
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| arges | apw, they disappeared after another upgrade yesterday | 09:45 |
| arges | apw, now i see other things.... highlight text in a webpage then right click... unfortunately i can't take a screenshot of it | 09:46 |
| apw | arges, ok that odd | 09:46 |
| apw | arges, try a delayed screen shot perhaps | 09:46 |
| arges | apw, good idea | 09:46 |
| arges | now i can't click again... | 09:46 |
| arges | time for another cup of coffee | 09:46 |
| cking | smb, see the hud graphs in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-power-consumption/+bug/938584/+attachment/2770166/+files/hud-cpu-maxed-out.ods | 09:51 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 938584 in indicator-appmenu "hud-service consumes all the cycles on my CPU" [High,New] | 09:51 |
| arges | ouch | 09:51 |
| apw | cking, i wonder how manu menu idems hud really has to search when you think about it | 10:08 |
| apw | its got just the menus for the current application, and those in the indicators | 10:08 |
| apw | lets be, really, really, generous and say there are 1000 entries to search | 10:09 |
| apw | how long can it take to do a earch on those | 10:09 |
| cking | apw, i suppose the source will be enlightening | 10:09 |
| apw | or heavy | 10:10 |
| smb | I would assume a lot is because it restarts the search for every new key you type | 10:10 |
| apw | smb, in the test case i typed 7 characters, so it might have had to redo the search up to 7 times | 10:10 |
| apw | to lets say thats a search of 7k lines | 10:11 |
| smb | apw, And draw its current map thoughts | 10:11 |
| cking | where does it get the data from? dbus? | 10:11 |
| * smb would not be surprised to find it polls back whether the drawing operation has not been done yet ever millisecond | 10:12 | |
| apw | cking, i suspect it does yeah | 10:12 |
| cking | so it should cache this, bet it doesnt | 10:12 |
| apw | yeah | 10:12 |
| === soren_ is now known as soren | ||
| apw | smb, my desktop just went pop | 11:02 |
| smb | apw, awsome | 11:02 |
| apw | cking_, you lost your graphics yesterday, no VT switches right ? | 11:03 |
| === cking_ is now known as cking | ||
| cking | yep and today, had to reboot at 10:20 ish today because it locked up | 11:03 |
| apw | cking, just happened to me, xorg sleeping on a futex | 11:04 |
| smb | apw, Does that means hangs/locksup or just that tendency to randomly turn of the display for a few secs that I sometimes see | 11:04 |
| cking | more than just a few seconds | 11:04 |
| apw | mine was dead totally, had to be kicked in the eye | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | well at least your fonts didnt turn into rainbows (like it is here) and i guess your notifications didnt turn green either | 11:46 |
| cos^ | if someone says he has applied a patch on LKML, which kernel branch does it go? | 11:49 |
| * henrix will be back in ~20min | 12:16 | |
| apw | cos^, to that maintainers tree, which in theory you can figure out from the MAINTAINERS file | 12:53 |
| apw | ogra_, heh, there is a lot of luminous blue OSDs being reported too | 12:53 |
| ogra_ | fun | 12:57 |
| cos^ | apw: ok.. it should be in jikos tree but it isn't. maybe he hasn't pushed the commit yet.. | 13:04 |
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| ppisati | HP to Make ARM Servers Available for Testing in Q2 | 14:34 |
| ppisati | http://www.pcworld.com/article/249988/hp_to_make_arm_servers_available_for_testing_in_q2.html | 14:34 |
| ppisati | FYI | 14:34 |
| ogra_ | assuming they exist until then :P | 14:35 |
| ppisati | :) | 14:35 |
| ppisati | well, they said they'll openm a lab for selected costumer | 14:35 |
| ppisati | in case the silicon is not ready yet, they can fake it via qemu :) | 14:35 |
| ogra_ | haha | 14:36 |
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| henrix | whois bjf | 15:16 |
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| henrix | ugh | 15:16 |
| * ogasawara back in 20 | 15:27 | |
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| * tgardner reboots tangerine | 15:49 | |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| ogasawara | tgardner: be there in a bit | 16:00 |
| skaet | ogasawara, is the linux kernel we have in the archive now going to be the one for beta 1? (or are there some more bug fixes you're trying to land) | 16:01 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, ack, interview call at 0900 if you wanna attend | 16:01 |
| ogasawara | skaet: the one in the archive is what I plan for beta-1 | 16:01 |
| skaet | ogasawara, thanks. :) | 16:01 |
| jsalisbury_ | Is anyone else having issues with tangerine? | 16:04 |
| === jsalisbury_ is now known as jsalisbury | ||
| ppisati | jsalisbury: it has been rebooted some minutes ago | 16:05 |
| tgardner | jsalisbury, I'm trying to get it to reboot | 16:05 |
| ppisati | jsalisbury: but otrher than that, it works here | 16:05 |
| tgardner | ppisati, I don't think it actually rebooted | 16:05 |
| jsalisbury | tgardner, ppisati, ahh, ok. thanks | 16:06 |
| tgardner | ppisati, 16:02:15 up 3 days, 1:17, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.08 | 16:06 |
| ppisati | good point :) | 16:06 |
| jsalisbury | tgardner, my sessions all got kicked off and I can't seem to log back in. | 16:06 |
| * jsalisbury wonders if tgardner has a long enough arm to reach the power switch :-) | 16:07 | |
| tgardner | jsalisbury, gonna have too pretty soon | 16:07 |
| tgardner | jsalisbury, looks like its back, 2 min uptime | 16:07 |
| jsalisbury | tgardner, hmm, I'm back in now | 16:08 |
| jsalisbury | tgardner, top looks really strange, a bunch of root RT processes | 16:08 |
| * cking orders a USB3 -> SATA dohicky | 16:08 | |
| jsalisbury | tgardner, hmm, maybe that's normal. Looks like watchdog, migration and kworker | 16:09 |
| jsalisbury | 64 threads for each ? | 16:11 |
| apw | jsalisbury, could be easily be one per cpu of many of those kernel threads | 16:24 |
| apw | jsalisbury, to ensure deadlock avoidance | 16:24 |
| === jsalisbury_ is now known as jsalisbury | ||
| jsalisbury | apw, that makes sense. | 16:29 |
| cking | it's not like they are doing much most of the time | 16:30 |
| apw | if anything ever in many cases, just sitting there | 16:30 |
| cking | and doing the very occasional wakeup | 16:30 |
| cking | hrm, why has rhythmnbox lost all my mp3s?. Bah | 16:31 |
| apw | cking, synced to the contents of your phone | 16:37 |
| cking | fortunately not | 16:37 |
| cking | if my music collection gets sync'd to /dev/null I won't be a happy bunny | 16:38 |
| ogra_ | buy vinyl its more persistent anyway ! | 16:38 |
| ogra_ | (though admittedly hard to listen to on flights) | 16:39 |
| apw | ogra_, well as long as you don't play it with anything other than a laser | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | lol | 16:40 |
| apw | they say you lose about 20% of the top end the first time you play it with a needle | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | you think needles wouldnt pass security ? | 16:40 |
| apw | which is why the autophiles like it, it softens the top end right off | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | nonsense | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | digitalization swallows more | 16:41 |
| apw | oh i am not saying an mp3 is worth shit at all | 16:41 |
| ogra_ | unless you deal with hilarious big media to store flacs | 16:41 |
| apw | the thing about digitisation loss though is you can target it, vinal lost is exponentially worse at high frequencies | 16:42 |
| apw | either way i can't tell with my ears | 16:42 |
| ogra_ | needles dont do harm to records if your player is proper ... sadly the used vinyl has usually been played on record grinders | 16:43 |
| ogra_ | the hig feqs totally depends on the setup and on how much you invest | 16:43 |
| ogra_ | it *is* on the media ... if your first playing scratches it off is a different thing and a matter of the equipment | 16:44 |
| apw | ogra_, indeed, though other than a non-contact reader, i am not convinces any needle based reader is able to not remove the high end, they are simply too heave to move out the way | 16:45 |
| ogra_ | the area where the needle touches the vinyl doesnt have any sounds on it | 16:45 |
| ogra_ | vertically that is | 16:46 |
| apw | the needle is vibrated up left and up right to induce the sound | 16:46 |
| apw | somethign is moving it | 16:46 |
| ogra_ | yep | 16:46 |
| apw | ok, so that thing that moves, has to be moved, moved by the surface shape of the slot in the plastic | 16:46 |
| ogra_ | and there it matters how your player, your system, your needle itself etc is designed and combined | 16:46 |
| ogra_ | right | 16:47 |
| apw | and the relative weight of that defines how much energis is required for the plastic to mvoe it | 16:47 |
| apw | the higher the frequency the faster, and more the energy | 16:47 |
| ogra_ | if it would grind off the surface you would have black plastic dust all around if you played a record | 16:47 |
| apw | and at those higher frequency it is a thiner and thiner bit of plastic which does it | 16:48 |
| ogra_ | thats where the design of the cardtridge comes into play | 16:48 |
| apw | ogra_, nope, all it has to to is average the plastic into a flat line | 16:48 |
| * tgardner rebuilds gomeisa precise chroots yet again | 16:48 | |
| apw | it doesn't need to remove any | 16:48 |
| apw | just move it about | 16:48 |
| ogra_ | and the cut of the needle etc | 16:48 |
| apw | of course a good needle has to be infinitly better than a bad one | 16:48 |
| ogra_ | i have 40year old records that still have all high freqs :) | 16:49 |
| * tgardner reboots gomeisa | 16:49 | |
| apw | ogra_, and how can you tell that? | 16:49 |
| tgardner | smb, need to bounce gomeisa. holler when your job is done | 16:50 |
| apw | i can believe you have records that sound fine after 40 years | 16:50 |
| smb | tgardner, sure | 16:50 |
| apw | tgardner, subtle ... | 16:50 |
| apw | tgardner, i wondered why my build was struggling, the chroot is gone :) | 16:51 |
| apw | tgardner, what happened to em, will mine break if i update them? | 16:51 |
| ogra_ | apw, indeed, its hard to tell since my ears got 40 years older too :) | 16:52 |
| smb | tgardner, I am gone | 16:53 |
| tgardner | apw, more of that resolvconf package nonsense. it keeps breaking things on a lucid host | 16:54 |
| tgardner | tangerine is working well | 16:54 |
| apw | tgardner, yeah just have to upload 100MB there to get my build going :) | 16:55 |
| tgardner | apw, whinger | 16:57 |
| apw | tgardner, to the very core, always | 16:57 |
| tgardner | apw, its rebuidling now... | 16:58 |
| * smb found the copy /etc/passwd from the host approach breaking chroot updates in subtle ways | 16:59 | |
| jjohansen | apw: bug#925028 isn't entirely fixed by my apparmor patches. It still requires profiles to have the attach disconnected flag, I am planning to look at it more today | 18:25 |
| apw | bug #925028 | 18:26 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 925028 in lxc "apparmor breaks lxc-start-ephemeral (apparmor+overlayfs returns -EINVAL)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925028 | 18:26 |
| apw | ok cool | 18:26 |
| jsalisbury | ogasawara, this looks like it might be a quick fix by including the firmware in precise: bug 939231 | 18:40 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 939231 in linux-firmware "Dlink DWA-160 (Atheros AR9170 802.11n ) is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939231 | 18:40 |
| * cking -> EOD | 21:37 | |
| === bladernr_ is now known as bladernr_afk | ||
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