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* ogra_ twiddles thumbs ... | 15:00 | |
* davidm looks about | 15:01 | |
NCommander | #startmeeting | 15:02 |
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meetingology | Meeting started Thu Feb 23 15:02:04 2012 UTC. The chair is NCommander. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:02 |
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NCommander | Sorry, wasn't looking at the clock | 15:02 |
ogra_ | ah | 15:02 |
mahmoh | hi | 15:02 |
* davidm waves at NCommander | 15:02 | |
NCommander | who's here | 15:02 |
* med_ waves | 15:02 | |
* ogra_ sneezes | 15:02 | |
rbasak | o/ | 15:02 |
ahs3 | \o | 15:02 |
NCommander | So | 15:02 |
ogra_ | do we wnat need an agenda today ? | 15:02 |
* GrueMaster meh | 15:03 | |
NCommander | Not really | 15:03 |
NCommander | [topic] Important Annoucement | 15:03 |
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NCommander | As part of an effort to keep ARM development more inline with the rest of the ubuntu community, the ARM team is intergrating directly into the platform team | 15:04 |
ppisati | :O | 15:04 |
* ppisati wasn't aware | 15:04 | |
NCommander | ppisati: there was a reason I said it was the final meeting on the reminder | 15:04 |
ogra_ | i would actually like to propose to still have arm meetings to coordinate arm work ... not as frequent, not with burndown etc but occasionally (i.e. once a month or every two or on whatever schedule) to get people doing the arm work in ubuntu to talk ... | 15:04 |
NCommander | [vote] Continue ARM meetings? | 15:05 |
meetingology | Please vote on: Continue ARM meetings? | 15:05 |
meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 15:05 |
ppisati | +1 | 15:05 |
meetingology | +1 received from ppisati | 15:05 |
GrueMaster | But I like the broken burndown chart. | 15:05 |
med_ | +1 | 15:05 |
meetingology | +1 received from med_ | 15:05 |
rbasak | +1 | 15:05 |
ogra_ | +1 (since i proposed it) | 15:05 |
meetingology | +1 received from rbasak | 15:05 |
meetingology | +1 (since i proposed it) received from ogra_ | 15:05 |
GrueMaster | +1 | 15:05 |
meetingology | +1 received from GrueMaster | 15:05 |
NCommander | ogra_: you broke the bot | 15:05 |
NCommander | +1 | 15:05 |
meetingology | +1 received from NCommander | 15:05 |
ogra_ | NCommander, how could i ? :) | 15:05 |
NCommander | 10:05:26 < meetingology> +1 (since i proposed it) received from ogra_ | 15:06 |
davidm | Who is going to host the meetings? | 15:06 |
* NCommander looks at the person who proposed it | 15:06 | |
rbasak | Good question | 15:06 |
* rbasak nominates davidm :-) | 15:06 | |
davidm | ogra_, it just wants +1 0 or -1 on a line nothing else | 15:06 |
NCommander | #endvote | 15:06 |
meetingology | Voting ended on: Continue ARM meetings? | 15:06 |
meetingology | Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 15:06 |
meetingology | Motion carried | 15:06 |
davidm | rbasak, not sure what I'll be doing going forward | 15:06 |
davidm | So it needs to be someone else | 15:07 |
ogra_ | davidm, nah, we use the comment feature in every rmb meeting to comment on people we vorte for | 15:07 |
* ogra_ will do it then, we can rotate it or so | 15:07 | |
NCommander | So we'll continue the meetings in some form, not sure how often or when | 15:07 |
NCommander | [action] ogra to determine new meeting schedule | 15:07 |
meetingology | ACTION: ogra to determine new meeting schedule | 15:07 |
ogra_ | infinity, proposal was to still have arm coordination meetings at a looser schedule and with less agenda | 15:07 |
infinity | I'm not convinced we need meetings for the sake of meetings. | 15:08 |
* NCommander proposes we have a meeting to discuss meetings | 15:08 | |
NCommander | >:-) | 15:08 |
ogra_ | infinity, no,. for the sake of communitcation of people working on arm stuff | 15:08 |
ogra_ | it shouldnt be strict and optional anyway | 15:08 |
rbasak | We have to be careful with a loose schedule though | 15:08 |
rbasak | The risk is that it stops happening | 15:09 |
infinity | ogra_: Well, the idea here is that people should instead be communicating about "kernel stuff" or "desktop stuff" (etc). We don't have "amd64 meetings". | 15:09 |
ogra_ | just to give an opportunity to communicate on arm specific tasks | 15:09 |
ogra_ | hmm, true indeed | 15:09 |
ogra_ | nor do we have ppc ones | 15:09 |
infinity | ie: If you have an arm kernel issue, being it up in the kernel-team meeting. | 15:09 |
infinity | s/being/bring/ | 15:09 |
NCommander | Here's the official meeting calendar | 15:10 |
NCommander | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/ | 15:10 |
NCommander | Server team is 16:00 UTC on Tuesdays | 15:10 |
ogra_ | infinity, though there was a vote before you joined, and that looked like there might still be demand | 15:10 |
NCommander | ]Kernel is 17:00 UTC on Tuesday | 15:10 |
ogra_ | Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 15:10 |
rbasak | We don't need "amd64 meetings" because everyone is de-facto amd64. We need arm meetings because most people are still developing against non-arm, IMHO. | 15:10 |
* ogra_ would like to hear from the people that +1'ed if they could get along with that | 15:10 | |
infinity | I propose a discussion period before nostalgia-based voting biases kick in. ;) | 15:10 |
ppisati | i definitely can, since i'll be there anyway :) | 15:11 |
infinity | rbasak: Right, but that's what we're trying to change. | 15:11 |
infinity | rbasak: And it won't change if we keep having ARM stuff in separate meetings. | 15:11 |
ogra_ | rbasak, infinity is right here | 15:11 |
victorp | you could always have a rotating chair | 15:11 |
ogra_ | victorp, right, i would just have kicked it off | 15:11 |
ogra_ | with chair nominations at the end of every meeting | 15:12 |
rbasak | infinity: we're not in a position to change it, IMHO, because it's based on what hardware engineers are using on their own machines. Until ARM/Intel reach a 50/50 split on that, ARM will be the minority and those working on it need to have a focus | 15:12 |
infinity | rbasak: Yeah, that's kinda the attitude we're trying to kill here. That's my point. :) | 15:12 |
infinity | rbasak: People should care about it, even if it's not their laptop's arch. | 15:12 |
victorp | rbasak, unless you count their phone | 15:13 |
infinity | rbasak: And if it's not discussed in open channels and "normal" teams, that won't happen. | 15:13 |
rbasak | I'm sure they do care about it | 15:13 |
* ogra_ uses arm 24/7 on his lappie :) | 15:13 | |
victorp | I would suggest that keeping this meeting going forward for at least until the next cycle | 15:13 |
* NCommander has an arm (and two legs) | 15:13 | |
victorp | and then re-review it at uds? | 15:13 |
rbasak | I'm not saying that we shouldn't integrate with "normal" teams. I'm saying that ARM-specific issues that come up from there should be collaborated on in once place. | 15:13 |
rbasak | *one place | 15:13 |
rbasak | victorp: +1 | 15:14 |
infinity | rbasak: Perhaps. Generally, kernel people don't attend desktop meetings for a reason, though. :) | 15:14 |
infinity | (And most of us hate duplicated work/meetings) | 15:14 |
victorp | infinity, doesnt mean we cant do both | 15:14 |
infinity | But yeah, keeping the status quo for a little longer while we integrate won't kill us. | 15:14 |
ogra_ | infinity, prob here is that we dont have an arm person in every team atm | 15:14 |
ogra_ | else i would fully agree | 15:14 |
victorp | for certification we have a meeting to cover cert and then we have a person attending the kernel meeting to raise issues there too | 15:14 |
ogra_ | but there is likely arm work that has to be done cross team atm | 15:15 |
infinity | ogra_: It's not (ultimately) about having "arm people" on every team, but having every team actually work on ARM. | 15:15 |
victorp | infinity, isnt a bit like QA | 15:15 |
GrueMaster | infinity: No one is forcing you to attend either. | 15:15 |
ogra_ | how would they do that without HW or knowledge about the HW | 15:15 |
victorp | everyone does its own qa - there is still a qa meeting to discuss common things? | 15:15 |
ogra_ | GrueMaster, ++ | 15:15 |
NCommander | We did have a PowerPC for a long time. | 15:15 |
infinity | The HW is almost never necessary, except for kernel and installer hacking. | 15:15 |
NCommander | er | 15:15 |
NCommander | wow | 15:15 |
NCommander | grammar fail | 15:15 |
victorp | GrueMaster, that is the attitude - lol | 15:16 |
infinity | Anyhow. | 15:16 |
infinity | I'll withdraw my objections for now. But I'm working on integration here in the long run. | 15:16 |
ogra_ | as i said before, optional, less frequent | 15:16 |
NCommander | PowerPC had a dedicated channel that people could go for porting help. We have #ubuntu-arm for much the same purpose | 15:16 |
ogra_ | once a month should suffice surely | 15:16 |
victorp | infinity, can you take an action to setup a discussion at UDS around this? | 15:16 |
victorp | since you do have valid points - if I take the action it will never happen | 15:17 |
victorp | :( | 15:17 |
infinity | victorp: Will do. | 15:17 |
infinity | victorp: Rick's already tasked me informally with more or less the same thing. :P | 15:17 |
NCommander | [action] infinity to discuss ARM meeting existance at UDS | 15:17 |
meetingology | ACTION: infinity to discuss ARM meeting existance at UDS | 15:17 |
victorp | great minds and all that | 15:17 |
infinity | (Though less about meetings, and more about deeper integration) | 15:18 |
NCommander | integration can largely be solved with large amounts of beer and duct tape | 15:18 |
SeaJay | I'm for continuing the meetings but not so much for status quo but rather to help with the transition to the new org and build cross team cooperation. | 15:18 |
infinity | To be fair, cross-team cooperation already exists, ARM's just not seen it as much, because we've been in our own weird bubble. | 15:19 |
ogra_ | ++ | 15:19 |
infinity | Scatter us to the winds, and we might see how the rest of the distro works. ;) | 15:19 |
SeaJay | Yeh, cooperation wasn't the right word. | 15:19 |
ogra_ | they will forward their probs to linaro then :P | 15:19 |
ogra_ | instead of us | 15:19 |
infinity | Anyhow. Moving on. I'll make sure this all gets solid discussion at UDS. | 15:19 |
infinity | And I'll bring blunt objects. | 15:20 |
infinity | Or wiffle bats. | 15:20 |
ogra_ | k, so should i still schedule it in a month from now ? | 15:20 |
med_ | yes | 15:20 |
ogra_ | ok | 15:20 |
* rbasak votes two weeks | 15:20 | |
ogra_ | (will only be 3 or 4 meetings until UDS anyway on that schedule) | 15:21 |
infinity | ogra_: You could even register a foundations-uds-q-arm-integration (or whatever the right format is) blueprint, and assign it to me. ;) | 15:21 |
SeaJay | Yeh, I'd like more frequently than monthly for now myself. | 15:21 |
davidm | IS there any action items from last week that should be reviewed before just dropping the old agenda? | 15:21 |
rbasak | The point being that we don't know how it'll go. If there's persistently little to discuss, we could make it less frequent then, but going in the other direction involves a long wait. | 15:21 |
ogra_ | infinity, feel free to create it :) | 15:21 |
infinity | ogra_: I was hoping I could trick you into being my personal assistant. I'll set it up. | 15:22 |
ogra_ | NCommander, any actions from last week ? | 15:22 |
* NCommander checks | 15:22 | |
ogra_ | infinity, lol, then you have to say so ! | 15:22 |
ogra_ | just ask and you will be served :P | 15:22 |
NCommander | [topic] rsalveti to follow with riku to see if chromium will get fixed | 15:23 |
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ogra_ | (we have to talk about the amount of salary you have to transfer indeed ) | 15:23 |
infinity | micahg: What's the latest on chromium? | 15:23 |
ogra_ | it built ! | 15:23 |
NCommander | does it run? | 15:23 |
* ogra_ got it with a dist-upgrade today | 15:23 | |
ogra_ | didnt try | 15:23 |
NCommander | ogra_: best try :-). | 15:23 |
ogra_ | just saw the package passing by | 15:23 |
infinity | Wait, it built? | 15:23 |
ogra_ | not now | 15:23 |
NCommander | I remember openoffice built, but didn't run | 15:23 |
infinity | No, chromium's still broken on armhf. | 15:24 |
ogra_ | will do when i dont actually use this machine :) | 15:24 |
ogra_ | oh, crap i run el here | 15:24 |
ogra_ | but even that is a novum | 15:24 |
infinity | Some multiarch annoyance. | 15:24 |
ogra_ | it didnt buold on any arm for years | 15:24 |
infinity | I'll work with micahg to see if we can resolve that. | 15:25 |
ogra_ | i'll test after the meeting if it actually runs on my tegra | 15:25 |
* ogra_ has all ram used up atm | 15:25 | |
infinity | janimo`: Oh hai. | 15:26 |
ogra_ | heh | 15:26 |
janimo` | I forgot what the itme was | 15:26 |
janimo` | and noone pinged me! | 15:26 |
janimo` | and hi :) | 15:27 |
ogra_ | we just assumed your mic was broken | 15:27 |
janimo` | funny guy | 15:27 |
* GrueMaster hasn't seen an itme in a while. | 15:27 | |
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ogra_ | oh, wait that was the other meeting :P | 15:27 |
infinity | NCommander: Was there anything else from last meeting? | 15:27 |
janimo` | GrueMaster, did you say 'itme? | 15:27 |
NCommander | [topic] rsalveti to follow with koen at ELC to see if we'll get armhf drivers for sgx (omap3) | 15:27 |
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janimo` | I would if I were near you | 15:27 |
ppisati | NCommander: how about omap4? | 15:28 |
ogra_ | ppisati, in the works | 15:28 |
rsalveti | he'll be publishing the drivers in the following weeks | 15:28 |
ppisati | ok | 15:28 |
rsalveti | hope still in time for the release | 15:28 |
rsalveti | with a ffe | 15:28 |
ogra_ | waiting for ndecs team | 15:28 |
infinity | rsalveti: Given that armel is unsupported, and armhf doesn't have the driver, the FFe will be a no-brainer. | 15:28 |
ogra_ | yeah | 15:29 |
infinity | rsalveti: But have them talk to me about it when it's time. | 15:29 |
rsalveti | FFe to include the driver for armhf | 15:29 |
infinity | Yeah, like I said, no-brainer. | 15:29 |
infinity | Hardware enablement FFes are more closely tied to kernel freeze, which is quite a way out. | 15:29 |
infinity | At least, IMO. | 15:29 |
rsalveti | that's fine then :_) | 15:30 |
rsalveti | :-) | 15:30 |
janimo` | is there an action item to ping nvidia about tegra-armhf or it happens whenever they get to it? | 15:30 |
ogra_ | good question | 15:30 |
rsalveti | I talked with a few nvidia folks at elc | 15:30 |
janimo` | so ac100 is not the only armel image | 15:30 |
infinity | A few different people talked to nvidia engineers at Connect. | 15:30 |
infinity | And ELC, apparently. :P | 15:30 |
rsalveti | they said the have the armhf driver internally | 15:30 |
infinity | And yeah, that. | 15:31 |
rsalveti | guess we just need to ping the folks to make it available for us | 15:31 |
infinity | The Engineers are building them, the release managers haven't let them be set free yet. | 15:31 |
ogra_ | then they should just open the gates | 15:31 |
infinity | Red tape ahoy. | 15:31 |
ogra_ | heh | 15:31 |
ogra_ | well, with the current xorg ABI i get green bg on notification bubbles and the panel fonts look like rainbows | 15:32 |
janimo` | ACTION : look for tegra-armhf drivers on thepiratebay.org | 15:32 |
ogra_ | camnt be worse i guess | 15:32 |
ogra_ | oh, and firefox CSS is acting up too | 15:32 |
ogra_ | o it would be good to have something new for release | 15:33 |
janimo` | well the driver itself is still buggy but at least it should not hold up armhf images taking over | 15:33 |
ogra_ | yeah | 15:33 |
rsalveti | and for imx53 we're still waiting feedback from freescale | 15:34 |
ogra_ | but with xorg updates it got a lot more buggy over the last weeks | 15:34 |
rsalveti | seems we can have the drivers, but we can't distribute them | 15:34 |
rsalveti | so, useless :-) | 15:34 |
ogra_ | so i dont even know if it makes sense to keep artmel around for ac100 | 15:34 |
ogra_ | *armel | 15:34 |
janimo` | rsalveti, was that not the case even before with mx53? | 15:34 |
infinity | rsalveti: Yeah, I'd love to be able to, but such is life. :/ | 15:34 |
rsalveti | janimo`: yeah | 15:34 |
ogra_ | even with imx51 (babbage) we had that | 15:35 |
GrueMaster | rsalveti: Anyone working on the usb issue with the imx53 Start-R rev? | 15:35 |
rsalveti | but anmar is working hard at linaro to make freescale to release a distributable driver | 15:35 |
rsalveti | GrueMaster: not atm, unfortunately | 15:35 |
rsalveti | GrueMaster: have the bug? | 15:35 |
infinity | rsalveti: I suppose if someone has some spare time they wanted to waste, they could design an installer package that required the user to first download the tarball from Freescale. | 15:35 |
rsalveti | the team is focused on imx6 | 15:35 |
GrueMaster | I'll file a bug later today. Everytime I got ready to file one before, I was told to wait as a new kernel was coming. | 15:36 |
rsalveti | infinity: that would probably work, just need someone with some spare time to do the magic script | 15:36 |
rsalveti | GrueMaster: please open it and let me know about the bug number | 15:36 |
rsalveti | will forward it to the LT | 15:36 |
infinity | rsalveti: Yeah, probably not worth the time, but if someone's feeling like a keener on private/community time. | 15:37 |
rsalveti | yeah | 15:37 |
ogra_ | oh, btw is anyone sending out a more official announcement that the arm dem wont exist anymore ... or is NCommander's note that this was the final meeting enough ? | 15:38 |
ogra_ | s/dem/team/ | 15:38 |
* ogra_ glares at his fingers | 15:39 | |
NCommander | Sorry, power interruption | 15:39 |
NCommander | cable model takes a good five minutes to powercycle | 15:39 |
NCommander | *modem | 15:39 |
NCommander | ogra_: I can drop a second email to ubuntu-armel announcing the former disillusion of the team. | 15:40 |
infinity | ogra_: I think we'll want to wait a week or three until we have a better idea of the state of things. | 15:40 |
NCommander | the LP group though shoul dstill be subscribed so ARM related bugs can be easily felt | 15:40 |
NCommander | infinity: fair enough | 15:40 |
ogra_ | infinity, yeah, sounds sane | 15:40 |
infinity | I'd like to send something more formal to ubuntu-announce in a while, but I want to make sure it's carefully worded to be positive, rather than panic-inducing. | 15:41 |
GrueMaster | NCommander: Actually, tags are the preferred method for bugs. | 15:41 |
ogra_ | infinity, ++ | 15:41 |
ogra_ | and also blessed by managers7teamleads | 15:41 |
infinity | ogra_: Yeahp. | 15:41 |
infinity | ogra_: I've been talking with Rick and Steve about what this all "means" for platform/Ubuntu, so I might take an action item here to draft up a formal announcement and get it reviewed and rubber-stamped. | 15:42 |
ogra_ | k | 15:42 |
infinity | But, like I said, I think it should wait a couple weeks. | 15:42 |
NCommander | anyway | 15:42 |
NCommander | I have one final announcement | 15:42 |
rsalveti | having a group can still be useful as we have people that only cares about arm atm | 15:42 |
rsalveti | like the folks working with linaro | 15:42 |
rsalveti | so easier to parse the bugs and such, but guess that a tag would also be useful | 15:43 |
infinity | rsalveti: The LP group and ubuntu-arm channel are still valuable, IMO. | 15:43 |
ogra_ | rsalveti, the ubuntu-arm LP team will still exist | 15:43 |
rsalveti | great then | 15:43 |
rsalveti | :-) | 15:43 |
ogra_ | we already share it across different teams | 15:43 |
ogra_ | (which made our burndown chart look funny in the past) | 15:43 |
* ogra_ has nothing anymore | 15:44 | |
NCommander | good news everyone | 15:45 |
NCommander | armadaxp netboot images are up | 15:45 |
infinity | NCommander: \o/ | 15:45 |
mahmoh | yay | 15:45 |
rbasak | \o/ | 15:45 |
ogra_ | great | 15:45 |
cmagina | woot | 15:45 |
ogra_ | when will we see alternates ? | 15:45 |
mahmoh | it even should reboot on its own now too! | 15:45 |
NCommander | ogra_: wasn't planning on buildin gthem | 15:45 |
NCommander | Kinda pointless when the bootloader can't load from USB | 15:46 |
ogra_ | oh, i thought you did | 15:46 |
mahmoh | it might be able to btw | 15:46 |
NCommander | I was waiting until we got a fixed bootloader from Marvell | 15:46 |
NCommander | mahmoh: did that get magically fixed cause I couldn't get it to work | 15:46 |
ogra_ | ah, indeed | 15:46 |
mahmoh | if you tried a powered usb device then no | 15:46 |
GrueMaster | mahmoh: We tried a usb stick at the rally. | 15:47 |
NCommander | and a SD card too | 15:47 |
mahmoh | sd didn't work?! | 15:48 |
GrueMaster | If it did, we wouldn't be having this discussion. | 15:48 |
mahmoh | heh | 15:48 |
NCommander | Anyway | 15:49 |
NCommander | I think its time to close | 15:49 |
mahmoh | well reboot now works and there's a bug for unmount hanging | 15:49 |
NCommander | One final annoucement | 15:49 |
GrueMaster | At any rate, we have 12 minutes left, and I have no idea where in the agenda we are anymore. | 15:49 |
NCommander | I would just like to say | 15:49 |
NCommander | So long, and thanks for all the fish | 15:49 |
ogra_ | GrueMaster, which agenda ? | 15:49 |
NCommander | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
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janimo` | NCommander, that was abrupt | 15:49 |
ogra_ | yeah | 15:49 |
ogra_ | not even a countdown | 15:50 |
NCommander | janimo`: figured for once to change it :-P | 15:50 |
janimo` | also to nitpick, thanks for all the fish is not an announcement :D | 15:50 |
mahmoh | dramatic exit ... | 15:50 |
infinity | mahmoh: The umount thing is almost certainly not arch-specific. | 15:51 |
mahmoh | infinity: has anyone else seen it? | 15:51 |
ogra_ | did you look on LP ? | 15:51 |
mahmoh | yes (not well evidently) | 15:52 |
infinity | mahmoh: I haven't seen the particular bug, but please sort out which script is hanging/pausing/whatever and file a bug. | 15:52 |
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mahmoh | infinity: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/939240 | 15:53 |
ubottu | Error: launchpad bug 939240 not found | 15:53 |
mahmoh | bug 939240 | 15:53 |
infinity | mahmoh: No matter how many ways you type it, it still doesn't exist. ;) | 15:54 |
infinity | (And this should go to another channel. I suggest #ubuntu-devel) | 15:54 |
mahmoh | it's private for some reason, I should undo that | 15:54 |
mahmoh | ack | 15:54 |
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