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orbisvicishow do you build packages like gcc 4.6 and eglibc which appear to depend on each other ?06:48
RAOForbisvicis: From an archive which already contains a version of the other :)06:49
orbisvicisRAOF: example? this isn't the normal source archive ?06:51
RAOFThis is basically a bootstrap problem.06:52
RAOFYou need eglibc to build gcc, but you can't build eglibc without gcc.06:52
RAOFSince we've already got an archive with gcc in it, though, you can build the new eglibc with the current gcc.  And the next gcc with the current eglibc.06:53
orbisvicisyou mean an archive like a pre-compiled .deb?06:54
RAOFI mean the current set of packages.  The repositories.06:55
RAOFTo *start* though, you do indeed need to upload some bootstrapping packages; a prebuilt gcc, for example.06:55
orbisvicisok I see06:57
RAOFBut you only need to do that once.  After you've got a working compiler, you can use that compiler to build a new compiler :)07:01
dholbachgood morning08:13
gesergood morning dholbach08:22
dholbachhi geser08:25
ajmitchmorning dholbach, geser08:34
dholbachhi ajmitch08:34
geserHi ajmitch08:34
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sladengood morning La10:31
Laneydidn't see you at the lecture :-(10:33
sladenoh you went.  Woo!10:33
sladenback right, at the top10:33
sladenand then standing next to the camera man10:34
Laneydid you arrive late?10:34
sladen"he's changing the tape, so if you're going to say anything important, hold on a moment"10:34
LaneyI was around before for ages10:34
sladen5 minutes late.  Missed the free food10:34
sladenhe was just explaining that he wasn't using slides when I sneaked in10:34
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Laneywhat's the difference between an 'attempted' and a 'failed' build, as far as sbuild is concerned?11:29
azeem_Laney: (AFAIK attempted is an sbuild state, while failed is a buildd state, i.e. the failed attempt has been acknowledged by a buildd admin)11:30
azeem_not sure that's the case for Ubuntu, though11:30
Laneyazeem_: these are both in mail from my local sbuild11:32
azeem_Laney: hrm :)11:35
Laneyoh well11:36
azeem_Laney: right, I think then it's rather attempted == dpkg-buildpackage failed, failed == something else (like apt-get build-dep) failed11:37
azeem_from what I've gathered from a quick look through my sbuild logs11:38
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dupondjeWhat things need to be done these days?16:45
dupondjeCan do some work :)16:45
dupondjebdrung: there ?17:14
bdrungdupondje: yes, but i shouldn't17:14
bdrungdupondje: why?17:14
dupondjeaudacious-plugins seems uninstallable17:16
dupondjeaudacious-plugins: Depends: audacious-plugins-data (>= 3.2.1-1ubuntu1)17:16
bdrungdupondje: wait. it's stuck in NEW17:16
bdrungdupondje: you said, that you could do some work?17:17
dupondjesure :)17:17
bdrungdupondje: vlc fails on powerpc and kfreebsd: https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=vlc17:17
bdrungit would be nice if these are fixed (the proper way to get the fixes upstream)17:18
dupondjeI see if I can do something with it :)17:19
dupondjebdrung: btw, audacious is still broken :) It tries to load plugins in openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/audacious/Output", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)17:30
dupondjewhile its in /usr/lib/audacious/17:30
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ubottuLaunchpad bug 939698 in audacious-plugins (Ubuntu) "Libs not installed in correct multi-arch directory" [Undecided,New]17:52
dupondjecould somebody sponsor :) So we can listen to musuc again :D17:52
bdrungdupondje: done17:58
dupondjebdrung: the VLC ftbfs is fixed already upstream? http://git.videolan.org/?p=vlc.git;a=commitdiff;h=46f74073685b29544dd55b3494f82e77fe9b4b6b18:03
bdrungdupondje: that's for kfreebsd18:04
bdrungpowerpc is still open18:04
arandScottK: Thanks for sponsoring! :D I take it you're looking at redeclipse-data as well?18:05
ScottKarand: I didn't see a bug for that.18:05
ScottK(I'm looking in the release team queue)18:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 934952 in Ubuntu "FFE: Sync redeclipse-data 1.2-1 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (non-free)" [Wishlist,Triaged]18:06
arandThe URT is subscribed there, it seems, do I need to do something else?18:07
ScottKDoing it now.18:07
arandYay! :)18:07
dholbachRTs etc. of FixIt Friday news would be appreciated. :-)18:26
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cemcI would like to rebuild suphp with some options changed. the package in lucid is 0.7.1-1 . what would be the appropriate name to name my package and upload in ppa to not get in trouble with future builds of the package? something like suphp-0.7.1-1+cemc1 would be ok?20:37
micahgyes, adding +foo is a good option as you'll get any updates from the main repo and know to rebuild your package20:42
cemcmicahg: let's say a security update comes along to suphp-0.7.1-1. what would that name be then?20:43
cemcmicahg: and 0.7.1-1ubuntu0.10.04.1 > suphp-0.7.1-1+cemc1 right?20:44
micahgoops, no it's not :)20:44
cemcit's not?20:44
micahgthat trick only works on Ubuntu versions :(20:44
cemcany suggestions?20:45
micahgso, 0.7.1-1cemc1 should work though20:45
cemcas long as it's not 0.7.1-1whoo1 ?20:45
cemcwhat about 0.7.1-1ubuntu0+cemc1 ?20:46
micahgthat would work too20:47
micahgcemc: you can use dpkg --compare-versions to check these things20:47
cemcmicahg: didn't know that, thanks ;)20:49
at332Anyone here?21:19
broder!ask | at33221:20
ubottuat332: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:20
at332I would like to get started in ubuntu development but I'm not quite sure where to start.  Do you have any suggestions on where I could start?21:23
dupondjeCan you do a powerpc build with pbuilder ?22:13
RAOFdupondje: If you've got some way to run PPC code, yes.22:14
RAOFOooh, and qemus22:14
RAOFqemu-user-static includes a PPC emulator, so you can build a PPC chroot fairly easily.22:15
jtaylorif it doesn't crash yes22:15
jtaylorunfortunatly it does mostly22:15
jtaylorprecise ppc emu is broken (or was two days ago)22:15
dupondjelets see if we can build ... :)22:16
* RAOF would build a chroot with mk-sbuild --arch=powerpc precise, but that'll build an sbuild system.22:17
dupondjepbuilder-dist precise powerpc create22:17
dupondjetrying :)22:17
jtaylorif it works try installing libmagick-dev please )22:19
dupondjeE: Can't mmap an empty file22:23
jtaylorthe oneiric one works22:24
jtaylorbut you can't upgrade22:24
turbotaxanyone have smtp sender for sell pls pm me now ill pay with libertyreserve22:32
dupondjeE: /etc/schroot/chroot.d/sbuild-precise-powerpc: line 10 [precise-powerpc] union-type: Unknown filesystem union type ‘overlayfs’22:47
dupondjehmz :)22:47

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