=== jacob_ is now known as jacob [06:48] how do you build packages like gcc 4.6 and eglibc which appear to depend on each other ? [06:49] orbisvicis: From an archive which already contains a version of the other :) [06:51] RAOF: example? this isn't the normal source archive ? [06:52] This is basically a bootstrap problem. [06:52] You need eglibc to build gcc, but you can't build eglibc without gcc. [06:53] Since we've already got an archive with gcc in it, though, you can build the new eglibc with the current gcc. And the next gcc with the current eglibc. [06:54] you mean an archive like a pre-compiled .deb? [06:55] I mean the current set of packages. The repositories. [06:55] To *start* though, you do indeed need to upload some bootstrapping packages; a prebuilt gcc, for example. [06:57] ok I see [07:01] But you only need to do that once. After you've got a working compiler, you can use that compiler to build a new compiler :) [08:13] good morning [08:22] good morning dholbach [08:25] hi geser [08:34] morning dholbach, geser [08:34] hi ajmitch [08:34] Hi ajmitch === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [10:30] morning [10:31] good morning La [10:31] tab-completion-fail [10:33] greetings [10:33] didn't see you at the lecture :-( [10:33] oh you went. Woo! [10:33] back right, at the top [10:34] and then standing next to the camera man [10:34] did you arrive late? [10:34] "he's changing the tape, so if you're going to say anything important, hold on a moment" [10:34] I was around before for ages [10:34] 5 minutes late. Missed the free food [10:34] ah [10:34] he was just explaining that he wasn't using slides when I sneaked in [10:34] fair === soren_ is now known as soren [11:29] what's the difference between an 'attempted' and a 'failed' build, as far as sbuild is concerned? [11:30] Laney: (AFAIK attempted is an sbuild state, while failed is a buildd state, i.e. the failed attempt has been acknowledged by a buildd admin) [11:30] not sure that's the case for Ubuntu, though [11:32] azeem_: these are both in mail from my local sbuild [11:35] Laney: hrm :) [11:36] oh well [11:37] Laney: right, I think then it's rather attempted == dpkg-buildpackage failed, failed == something else (like apt-get build-dep) failed [11:37] aha [11:38] from what I've gathered from a quick look through my sbuild logs === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === Rh0nda is now known as Rhonda === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === tubadaz_ is now known as tubadaz === oojah_ is now known as oojah === kirkland` is now known as kirkland === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:45] What things need to be done these days? [16:45] Can do some work :) [17:14] bdrung: there ? [17:14] dupondje: yes, but i shouldn't [17:14] dupondje: why? [17:16] audacious-plugins seems uninstallable [17:16] audacious-plugins: Depends: audacious-plugins-data (>= 3.2.1-1ubuntu1) [17:16] dupondje: wait. it's stuck in NEW [17:17] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacious-plugins/3.2.1-1ubuntu1 [17:17] dupondje: you said, that you could do some work? [17:17] sure :) [17:17] dupondje: vlc fails on powerpc and kfreebsd: https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=vlc [17:18] it would be nice if these are fixed (the proper way to get the fixes upstream) [17:19] I see if I can do something with it :) [17:30] bdrung: btw, audacious is still broken :) It tries to load plugins in openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/audacious/Output", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) [17:30] while its in /usr/lib/audacious/ === nenolod_ is now known as nenolod [17:52] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacious-plugins/+bug/939698 [17:52] Launchpad bug 939698 in audacious-plugins (Ubuntu) "Libs not installed in correct multi-arch directory" [Undecided,New] [17:52] could somebody sponsor :) So we can listen to musuc again :D [17:58] dupondje: done [17:59] thx [18:03] bdrung: the VLC ftbfs is fixed already upstream? http://git.videolan.org/?p=vlc.git;a=commitdiff;h=46f74073685b29544dd55b3494f82e77fe9b4b6b [18:04] dupondje: that's for kfreebsd [18:04] powerpc is still open [18:05] ScottK: Thanks for sponsoring! :D I take it you're looking at redeclipse-data as well? [18:05] arand: I didn't see a bug for that. [18:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/934952 [18:06] (I'm looking in the release team queue) [18:06] Launchpad bug 934952 in Ubuntu "FFE: Sync redeclipse-data 1.2-1 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (non-free)" [Wishlist,Triaged] [18:07] The URT is subscribed there, it seems, do I need to do something else? [18:07] No. [18:07] Doing it now. [18:07] Yay! :) [18:26] RTs etc. of FixIt Friday news would be appreciated. :-) === tubadaz_ is now known as tubadaz [20:37] I would like to rebuild suphp with some options changed. the package in lucid is 0.7.1-1 . what would be the appropriate name to name my package and upload in ppa to not get in trouble with future builds of the package? something like suphp-0.7.1-1+cemc1 would be ok? [20:42] yes, adding +foo is a good option as you'll get any updates from the main repo and know to rebuild your package [20:43] micahg: let's say a security update comes along to suphp-0.7.1-1. what would that name be then? [20:43] 0.7.1-1ubuntu0.10.04.1 [20:44] micahg: and 0.7.1-1ubuntu0.10.04.1 > suphp-0.7.1-1+cemc1 right? [20:44] oops, no it's not :) [20:44] it's not? [20:44] hm [20:44] that trick only works on Ubuntu versions :( [20:45] any suggestions? [20:45] so, 0.7.1-1cemc1 should work though [20:45] as long as it's not 0.7.1-1whoo1 ? [20:45] ;) [20:45] right [20:46] what about 0.7.1-1ubuntu0+cemc1 ? [20:47] that would work too [20:47] cemc: you can use dpkg --compare-versions to check these things [20:49] micahg: didn't know that, thanks ;) [21:19] Anyone here? [21:20] Hello? [21:20] !ask | at332 [21:20] at332: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [21:23] I would like to get started in ubuntu development but I'm not quite sure where to start. Do you have any suggestions on where I could start? [22:13] Can you do a powerpc build with pbuilder ? [22:14] dupondje: If you've got some way to run PPC code, yes. [22:14] Oooh, and qemus [22:15] qemu-user-static includes a PPC emulator, so you can build a PPC chroot fairly easily. [22:15] if it doesn't crash yes [22:15] unfortunatly it does mostly [22:15] precise ppc emu is broken (or was two days ago) [22:16] lets see if we can build ... :) [22:17] * RAOF would build a chroot with mk-sbuild --arch=powerpc precise, but that'll build an sbuild system. [22:17] pbuilder-dist precise powerpc create [22:17] trying :) [22:19] if it works try installing libmagick-dev please ) [22:23] E: Can't mmap an empty file [22:23] hmz [22:24] the oneiric one works [22:24] but you can't upgrade [22:32] anyone have smtp sender for sell pls pm me now ill pay with libertyreserve [22:47] E: /etc/schroot/chroot.d/sbuild-precise-powerpc: line 10 [precise-powerpc] union-type: Unknown filesystem union type ‘overlayfs’ [22:47] hmz :)