[00:13] <recon_lap> never set this up but seems like a good idea for young childern
[00:13] <recon_lap> http://www.howtogeek.com/54036/how-to-create-a-family-friendly-ubuntu-setup/
[00:14] <Candlehawk> Is it bad that my imidiate thought was how to go around all the security?
[00:19] <w30> recon_lap, all I ever did was not give admin rights. I keep a user B on the box so I just replace my kids borked home directory with user B and then chown from user B to kids user name and off she goes again. I look at her old home and transfer some data files like movies and photos
[00:21] <w30> recon_lap, I believe in preparing the kid for the cruel world rather than isolating the kid; Sooner than later the kid is gona find the real world
[00:21] <recon_lap> w30: the time limit and cut-off time seem like they would be very useful to me
[00:24] <w30> recon_lap, that's fine but I am involved close enough just to say ok, shut it down or whatever
[00:25] <w30> recon_lap, if you use the computer for a baby sitter I would guess it will fail you because the kids are always smarter than adults
[00:29] <w30> recon_lap, we all need to remind kids that everything on the net is not socially acceptable and teach them not to do it and why.
[00:30] <w30> recon_lap, and I know it's easier said than done and I fail at it also.
[00:32] <w30> recon_lap, best to not let kids watch politicians on the net or tv.
[00:44] <ajin> autif1: Good morning !
[00:45] <autif1> ajin - good morning, its 7:45 pm here, how are things
[00:45] <autif1> did 12.04 work out?
[00:46] <ajin> autif1: I was trying to put 12.04 into my USB drive using unetbootin, but it failed to put into USB
[00:47] <ajin> autif1: Do you know any clue?
[00:47] <autif1> hmmmn, I am not familiar with unetbootin, but if you have ubuntu on some other machine, you can try the "Startup disk creator" utility - that is what ubuntu supports
[00:48] <autif1> that has always forked for me
[00:48] <autif1> worked, not forked
[00:49] <ajin> good, I'll try it.
[00:56] <mongy> usb creator or dd or grub2 iso booting all work
[00:56] <mongy> personally had nightmares with unetbootin
[01:02] <ajin> autif1: I just find a similar tool on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick.  ----linux live creator, this might also work
[01:04] <autif1> perhaps - i have personally never used it
[01:04] <autif1> all the best
[01:05] <ajin> autif1: if one day, the tool on your hand doesn't work, this might be a help.:D
[01:10] <recon69_lap> can you boot from an alternate CD or just install
[01:16] <ajin> recon69_lap: I'm installing xubuntu on a netbook WITHOUT cd driver, bro
[01:19] <recon69_lap> ajin: thx, but not what i asked.
[01:30] <raevol> so, having gvfs-backends installed makes thunar hang for about 20-30 seconds before booting? anyone else observing this?
[01:31] <mongy> yes
[01:31] <mongy> why I installed it
[01:31] <mongy> uninstalled it rather
[01:31] <mongy> :)
[01:59] <raevol> mongy: same
[01:59] <raevol> nayways
[02:14] <recon_lap> any way to get the workspace picker to go vertical ?
[02:21] <ajin> !#
[02:21] <roflcopper> hai
[02:23] <roflcopper> my wifi is being annoying..
[02:24] <roflcopper> hey computer screen
[02:24] <roflcopper> so yeah, how y'doin
[02:24] <roflcopper> yea I'm good, am cool
[02:24] <roflcopper> not much really
[02:25] <babble> I'm trying to sort out the syntax for setting a folder emblem with tdbtool
[02:25] <babble> heh
[02:25] <babble> it's making my eyes hurt
[08:07] <antnash_> Hi guys. I'm running xubuntu on my fileserver/download machine and I keep getting a problem with overheating. This shouldn't be happening as I've got a decent cpu fan and 3 case fans, and the only load it was under (as far as I know) this latest time was my playing a divx video off it on my laptop
[08:08] <antnash_> It keeps throttling the cpus
[08:08] <antnash_> Anyone any ideas how to stop this?
[08:47] <nikolaj_basher> I tried to install some software through software center, bud the source was not from a trustable source. But it was the through the default repository. Is there  a list of trustable repository?
[08:50] <TheSheep> !repos
[09:00] <nikolaj_basher> TheSheep, thanks
[09:01] <Marzata> nikolaj_basher: just install it
[09:01] <nikolaj_basher> Marzata, the problem is that I can ignore it, it just fail
[09:05] <Marzata> Ubuntu for Android, huh.
[09:40] <Haferstroh> Hello, is somebody familiar with the Distribution "Liduid Lemur" ?
[09:43] <knome> why?
[09:45] <Haferstroh> I have seen a review video on youtube, and was wondering, if somebody hat any clues how to use the modified xfce within xubuntu
[09:46] <knome> well, that's not really the scope for this channel. as long as the patches are from xfce though, you might want to look into some PPA's, if there is any
[09:47] <knome> also maybe ask about the specific features you want and we might be able to help
[09:51] <Haferstroh> knome: Yes, but I thought that maybe someone had replaced the existing xubuntu xfce with the one from liquid lemur in the past
[09:53] <Haferstroh> if you want to check it out knome, hier is a cool review for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gdl0aTX0V0
[09:53] <knome> most probably not; LL is based on Arch, Xubuntu on Ubuntu (Debian)
[09:54] <Haferstroh> I just meant you should check it out for getting an idea not for the distribution, but the desktop
[09:55] <knome> apart from the dock, i don't see much difference
[09:55] <knome> except just some icon theme and other theme changes
[09:57] <Haferstroh> yes, thats what I meant. The windows are like in MacOs  and the iconset is neat
[09:57] <knome> Haferstroh, applications -> settings -> settings manager -> appearance/window manager
[10:00] <Haferstroh> how did they place the file menue on the upper panel ?
[10:04] <knome> that's globalmenu
[10:04] <knome> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/xfce-global-menu-plugin-gets-a-ppa/
[10:04] <Haferstroh> okay thank you
[10:05] <knome> np
[10:09] <NyLes_> what does vt.handoff=7 do? is it fine to remove it?
[10:10] <knome> http://askubuntu.com/questions/32999/what-is-vt-handoff-7-parameter-in-grub-cfg
[10:12] <NyLes_> knome: thanks..
[10:17] <NyLes_> why does xubuntu 10.04 has a lots of package to be updated?
[10:18] <knome> because it's nearly 2 years old, and it's also and LTS, which means it will still be supported for a bit more than a year
[10:18] <knome> s/and LTS/an LTS/
[10:19] <olbi> nah, LL looks like ugly Mac OS X :P
[10:19] <olbi> I'm testing now Cinnamon and it looks great :]
[10:20] <NyLes_> knome: but when i tried ubuntu 10.04 almost all are up to date?
[10:20] <olbi> and I think Xubuntu should take rolling release :]
[10:21] <Haferstroh> olbi  thats what they call "different taste" I have heard
[10:21] <NyLes_> i can't boot 11.10 after installaion :/
[10:21] <knome> olbi, feel free to start doing the work needed for rolling releases ;)
[10:22] <knome> olbi, and remember, you need to support LTS releases for 3 years
[10:22] <Haferstroh> He should switch to LL, Arch is a rolling release someone told me ;-)
[10:23] <knome> anyway, for the meta-discussion, feel free to join #xubuntu-offtopic
[10:23] <olbi> I know that Arch is RR, but I like Ubuntu Software Manager :D
[10:23] <olbi> we could have LTS and rolling release :D
[10:24] <knome> olbi, ...again, welcome to do the work
[10:24] <olbi> :)
[10:24] <olbi> hmm, better I should won 1 mln Euro and employ some ppl for this work :D
[10:28] <NyLes_> how to leave in IRC without just closing the application?
[10:28] <knome> NyLes_, /quit
[10:28] <NyLes_> knome: thanks..
[12:40] <MRbikmangooseguy> hey guys
[12:41] <TheSheep> !hi MRbikmangooseguy
[12:41] <TheSheep> !hi | MRbikmangooseguy
[13:17] <Riddell> hi, I'm the beta tech release manager
[13:17] <Riddell> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html  has lightdm-gtk-greeter which is your responsibility
[13:17] <Riddell> please fix or I'll delete it, thanks
[13:20] <Myrtti> Riddell: hate to point the obvious, but you are probably looking for #xubuntu-devel
[13:21] <Riddell> thanks Myrtti
[13:22] <jklein> Hey guys.
[13:23] <jklein> I've got a problem w/ Xubuntu resp. KDE. Anyone care to help me out?
[13:26] <Marzata> jklein: just ask
[13:27] <jklein> Well. I've installed KDE and wanted to boot into KDE. Works fine, but it loads xfce-panel and AWN, which are loaded automatically at session-start.
[13:27] <jklein> How can I tell my computer NOT to load them when I log into KDE, but still load them when I log into XFCE?
[13:50] <Pasq89> converted lubuntu to xubuntu and now xubuntu doesnt boot.. what can i do? reconfigure or something...
[13:55] <Marzata> lubuntu is not stable
[13:57] <Pasq89> converted lubuntu to xubuntu and now xubuntu doesnt boot.. what can i do? reconfigure or something... it stuck on check battery state! (had same problems with other distros ago. dont remember solution :( )
[14:00] <mongy> Pasq89, check /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf  and make sure lightdm is set to start on boot  (sudo update-rc.d lightdm defaults)
[14:05] <Pasq89> mongy: thanks! the second command didnt worked!
[14:05] <Pasq89> what is should change in lightdm?
[14:06] <Pasq89> it says: greeter-session=unity-greeter
[14:06] <Pasq89> user-session=xubuntu
[14:07] <mongy> mine is greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter
[14:07] <mongy> and sudo update-rc.d lightdm defaults should work.
[14:11] <Pasq89> did the update cmd and got warning: missing LSB information..
[14:16] <mongy> sudo update-rc.d -f lightdm remove
[14:16] <mongy> sudo update-rc.d lightdm defaults
[14:17] <Pasq89> okay! did those . and rebooting. reporting in a while! many thanks!!
[14:21] <Pasq89> now its on starting CUPS printin spooler/server .. it went 2 commands after battery state.. but it seems stucked there too.. :/
[14:22] <Pasq89> wait.. it says: starting LXDE display manager[fail] , stoping LightDm Display manager
[14:23] <Pasq89> i m not using anymore LXDE.. there isnt any LXDE more in my pc.. i switched to Xubuntu..
[14:23] <recon69_lap> hi all, just tring to use the xubuntu 11.10 usb install, thing is messing up keyboard selection, I selected English(uk) layout but the right hand list box full of Indian layouts
[14:23] <recon69_lap> going to restart as I think it's stuck
[14:26] <mongy> Pasq89, remove everything to with lxde then
[14:27] <mongy> not used it for ages, is it lxdm or something
[14:27] <Pasq89> removing now lxdm
[14:29] <mongy> sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[14:29] <mongy> try that
[14:29] <mongy> brb router needs a kick
[14:30] <recon69_lap> god this installer is slow and unresponsive
[14:31] <recon69_lap> and look like it's hung again
[14:38] <recon69_lap> what file system is recommended? ext4?
[14:40] <mongy> why not
[14:43] <recon69_lap> look like it's going to install this time, third time is the peach
[14:45] <baizon> yes, use ext4
[14:46] <Pasq89> mongy: still doesnt work.. removed the lxdm..
[14:52] <recon69_lap> thx baizon, I had go with ext4 but good to get some confirmation
[14:52] <recon69_lap> go/gone*
[15:00] <Pasq89> after converting my lubuntu to xubuntu, cant boot. what should i do? any help appreciated!!!
[15:01] <TheSheep> Pasq89: what error do you get?
[15:01] <recon69_lap> Pasq89: how did you convert? and what version? what how does it fail to boot ?
[15:01] <Pasq89> i posted here, and somebody send me a link containing how to convert any *buntu to xubuntu!
[15:02] <Pasq89> when the splash screen appears, if i press keys , i see that it stucks to checking battery state!
[15:02] <hobgoblin> pyschocat website was it Pasq89 ?
[15:02] <Pasq89> yes!!
[15:02] <holstein> Pasq89: when i installed xubuntu, i then installed lxde along with it... then, i tried to remove LXDE and had an error that i still havent taken the time to troubleshoot...
[15:02] <hobgoblin> they are fine generally so I doubt it's that
[15:03] <Pasq89> what is ould do now??
[15:03] <mongy> I will try and replicate it.
[15:03] <Pasq89> should*
[15:05] <hobgoblin> Pasq89: when you did the loooong sudo apt-get remove command did it actually have sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop at the end
[15:05] <mongy> so you installed lubuntu first?
[15:05] <Pasq89> yes, it had. i checked that. yes. i was using lubuntu for a month now..
[15:06] <mongy> is it set to autologin?
[15:06] <Pasq89> if i try again with that command? that psychocat... page
[15:06] <Pasq89> emm.. it was.. on lubuntu it was!
[15:07] <Pasq89> now i dont know..
[15:07] <mongy> will say in lightdm.conf
[15:07] <recon69_lap> mind if i ask how old you are Pasq89?
[15:08] <Pasq89> why recon69_lap ?
[15:09] <Pasq89> 22
[15:09] <mongy> 22/23?
[15:09] <mongy> heh
[15:09] <Pasq89> 22 and a half!
[15:09] <hobgoblin> :
[15:09] <hobgoblin> )
[15:09] <hobgoblin> I'm 22 and loads
[15:09] <Pasq89> 1989...
[15:09] <recon69_lap> Pasq89: well, wondering if it's age that accounts for you bad communication skills
[15:10] <mongy> maybe english is not his first language....
[15:10] <Pasq89> its not
[15:10] <hobgoblin> recon69_lap: could be not English and as long as people can understand that's enouigh
[15:10] <Pasq89> how about talking in my native language recon69_lap . τωρά καταλάβεις τίποτε;
[15:11] <hobgoblin> can;t understand that Pasq89 :)
[15:11] <craigbass1976> ANyone know how to get the network started before I log in?
[15:11] <mongy> so you installed lubuntu, then installed xubuntu-desktop
[15:11] <craigbass1976> I'm on Lucid
[15:11] <Pasq89> anw.. maybe the autologin from lubuntu makes xubuntu not to login?
[15:12] <Pasq89> yes. from the psychocats web ..
[15:12] <hobgoblin> I would definitely look into the lightdm confs
[15:12] <hobgoblin> they are different
[15:12] <Pasq89> hobgoblin: checked that as mongy told me before!
[15:12] <mongy> Pasq89, paste your entire lightdm.conf and lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[15:12] <thecandystore> How come my 2nd harddrive isn't 'mounting' right and showing up?
[15:13] <Pasq89> lightdm.conf: greeter-session=unity-greeter
[15:13] <mongy> craigbass1976,  configure /etc/network/interfaces
[15:13] <Pasq89> user-session=xunbuntu
[15:14] <mongy> Pasq89,  we went through this.  unity-greeter should be lightdm-gtk-greeter
[15:14] <recon69_lap> Pasq89: I was asking politely, To judge how best to continue. but never mind
[15:14] <mongy> Pasq89, so you have unity installed as well?
[15:14] <Pasq89> lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf: theme-name=graybird font-name=Droid Sans 10 xft-antialias=true
[15:15] <mongy> Pasq89, pastebinit
[15:15] <Pasq89> recon69_lap: no problem!
[15:15] <mongy> !paste
[15:16] <craigbass1976> mongy, are you kidding me?  That was stupid...
[15:16] <mongy> wut?
[15:17] <Pasq89> i cant paste from that laptop..
[15:17] <craigbass1976> mongy, so where is the file that my static ip currently set?
[15:18] <xsl> is IBUS for chinese imput layouts ?
[15:18] <xsl> *input
[15:18] <mongy> craigbass1976,  have you set your network up already in network manager ?
[15:18] <Pasq89> in /etc/lightdm i have those files: lightdf.conf lightdf-gtk-greeter.conf lightdm-gtk-greeter-ubuntu.conf unity-greeter.conf and users.conf
[15:19] <craigbass1976> mongy, I did, and it works fine.  I just want eth0 to come up earlier than after I've logged into the GUI.  I'm trying to run a dhcp server, but that won't start because the network isn't up yet when it tries
[15:20] <craigbass1976> I read somewhere to remove network-manager, but apt wants to remove most of my system in the process
[15:21] <mongy> craigbass1976, something like http://pastebin.com/Bbhqc1di will set you a static ip before login
[15:22] <mongy> craigbass1976, as for removing network manager,  you don't need to , if you have an interface setup in interfaces file then network manager will ignore it.
[15:23] <Pasq89> mongy: what files i should try to paste?
[15:23] <craigbass1976> mongy, ahhh..
[15:23] <craigbass1976> brb
[15:25] <mongy> craigbass1976, ticking "available to all users" in network manager would bring it up before you login also, but might not bring up in time for dhcp server.  you could delay dhcp from starting by adding a line to /etc/rc.local like sh -c "sleep 10 && service dhcp-server start"
[15:25] <mongy> ugh.
[15:25] <mongy> fly by
[15:26] <Pasq89> while booting xubuntu: starting System V Runlevel compatibiliy [failed]
[15:26] <mongy> Pasq89, lightdm.conf and lightdm-gtk-greeter-ubuntu.conf
[15:29] <mongy> Pasq89, did you get a screen asking to choose display manager during install of xubuntu?
[15:32] <craigbass1976> mongy, thanks.  Works when it's supposed to now.
[15:33] <Pasq89> yes..
[15:33] <Pasq89> paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/854118/
[15:33] <Pasq89> i dont remember what i choosed... !!! :/
[15:34] <Pasq89> mongy: can in any way reconfigure the xubuntu-desktop ?
[15:35] <mongy> greeter-session=unity-greeter  should be greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter
[15:38] <Pasq89> Yes, it did! <mongy> Pasq89, did you get a screen asking to choose display manager during install of xubuntu?
[15:38] <mongy> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[15:39] <Pasq89> okay.. changed the lightdm.conf.. and now will try the reconfigure..
[15:40] <Pasq89> reconfigured...
[15:40] <mongy> aha, I installed xubuntu-desktop and restarted, get the lubuntu splash screen, then console saying checking battery
[15:41] <Pasq89> as i do.. but i get the xubuntu screen.. and console stacks at checking battery..
[15:43] <mongy> ok, let me get a coffee and have a crack at this
[15:43] <Pasq89> mongy: you will? :) many thanks so far mongy ! many thanks!
[15:46] <mongy> ok, fixed.
[15:46] <Pasq89> wait wait.. i think it worked!!!
[15:46] <Pasq89> YES!! i got my desktop!! :)
[15:46] <mongy> it was lightdm.conf trying to use unity-greeter
[15:46] <Pasq89> mongy: what you did? you did it wirelessly? hehe!!
[15:47] <Pasq89> it was the lightdm.conf i changed before?
[15:48] <mongy> well, I reconfigured lightdm, changed the conf, as well as the othet conf file which had points to a wallpaper that was not there and a theme that did not exists..
[15:49] <Pasq89> me2 as you SAID me! MANY THANKS mongy ! Many thanks! i owe you!
[15:49] <mongy> backdrop needs to be /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/xubuntu-karmic.png
[15:49] <mongy> and theme is greybird
[15:50] <mongy> unless you wanna set them different..
[15:50] <mongy> those are defaults.
[15:50] <Pasq89> yes.. they are like this! i didnt paste in paste bin.. bcz i was manually writing them! Thanks again mongy
[15:57] <Pasq89> leaving channel.. many thanks mongy
[16:02] <Buster_> hi all
[16:02] <mongy> indeed
[16:28] <Buster_> I've run an update/upgrade today and am seeing some strange issues, missing file associations mainly, anyone else having issues?
[16:30] <Buster_> for example Terminal Emulator in all menus and bars reports "Failed to Execute Default Terminal Emulator"
[16:30] <Buster_> and from the panel /home button, thunar settings is opening, not thunar itself
[17:14] <beata> Happy hello. *grumble* Mornings.
[17:35] <matrinko> Hi, is it possible, to change settings of xfce theme to default xubuntu's settings?
[17:36] <matrinko> I have xubuntu 11.10
[17:39] <baizon> matrinko: i dont understand your question
[17:41] <baizon> you want to reset you setting to default?
[17:42] <matrinko> I changed appearence settings and now I want to get it back to the xubuntu default.
[17:42] <matrinko> yes
[17:45] <baizon> you need to delete ~/.cache/xfce and ~/.config/xfce but that will reset all your settings, so there could be a better sollution. I know only this one.
[17:52] <matrinko> OK, it is good for me. thanks
[18:44] <recon_lap> hmm, disable screen saver while watching movies does not seem to work
[18:55] <justakill> anyone here play minecraft on xubuntu?
[18:55] <justakill> i have a problem with sound was wondering if anyone could help, the sound is all fuzzy!!!
[18:56] <Marzata> justakill: how do you play it?
[18:56] <Marzata> justakill: via VM?
[18:56] <justakill> no i play it with sun java
[18:57] <justakill> directly within xubuntu
[18:58] <Marzata> ah
[18:58] <justakill> i think the problem must be xubuntu related more then minecraft related because i have had the problem with skype for example
[18:58] <Marzata> skype is not a good example
[18:58] <justakill> lol yea i guess
[19:00] <justakill> have any idea's, the sound is fuzzy and it seems to double... as in everysound comes twice it nearly sound like the first time its right the second its fuzzy
[19:06] <justakill> okay so i have two sound cards on my computer the mainboard 1 another one it seems to be related to the other one: its a creative xi fi platinum
[19:07] <justakill> it works fine on my other sound card, something seems to be going wrong between sun java and my creative soundcard
[19:08] <recon_lap> justakill: could java be using one sound card while xubuntu is using the other
[19:09] <justakill> maybe the sound is actually there with the othe rcard
[19:09] <justakill> tho
[19:11] <justakill> anyway don't want to bother you guys with this also it works with sound so its all good!
[19:13] <recon_lap> justakill: np, it's a odd bug so i doth anyone has much to add
[20:09] <xchris2168x> hey guys, i'm having trouble - it seems like i'm stuck in a "login loop" but i can log in using terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F1). Any advice?
[20:25] <recon_lap> hmm, was just about to suggest  > $ mv .config/xfce4 DOTconfig_xfce4 > $ mv .cache/xfce4 DOTcache_xfce4 > $ exit
[20:29] <recon_lap> anyone know a fix for the sound juicer musicbrianz bug?
[20:34] <holstein> recon_lap: whats the issu?
[20:34] <holstein> issue*
[20:36] <recon_lap> holstein: looking for the bug report ...
[20:37] <Unit193> Bug #788921 ?
[20:39] <recon_lap> think they might have jumped the gun on the fixed bit, just installed a clean xubuntu 11.10 and the bug is still there
[20:39] <holstein> https://code.launchpad.net/~phw/+archive/musicbrainz/
[20:40] <holstein> they?... whos they?
[20:41] <holstein> is rubyripper in the repos?... i think im converted
[20:43] <recon_lap> holstein: they would be the people who changed Bug #455461 to fixed and released , thanks for the link to wolfer fix, I'd lost that link. but i tried that on a 10.04 system a few days ago and it did not fix it either, I'll see if it works on 11.10
[21:19] <recon_lap> ok, so how do you add the ppa:phw/musicbrainz to the repo's ?
[21:21] <holstein> recon_lap: you add the PPA to your sources list... one wasy way is with the apt-add-repository command
[21:22] <holstein> there should also be instructions at the page where you are reading about the PPA.. but... sudo apt-add-repository ppa:phw/musicbrainz
[21:44] <recon_tv> well, this is what i got from adding the repo's http://paste.ubuntu.com/854580/
[21:44] <recon_tv> have to try with apt-add-repository now
[21:53] <recon_lap> it appears to be installed but the bug is still there
[21:59] <recon_lap> synaptic still shows version 2.32.1+20110330-1
[21:59] <Unit193> Did you reload package list?
[22:00] <recon_lap> Unit193: you mean with sudo apt-get update
[22:00] <Unit193> Yep.
[22:01] <recon_lap> several times
[22:01] <Unit193> Right, read that.
[22:02] <Unit193> It's missing the .com in your repo list.
[22:03] <recon_tv> Unit193: thx, I have fixed that, and added the repo correctly
[22:03] <recon_tv> Unit193: the version has still not updated
[22:05] <Unit193> Right, so now it reads right, you updated, now try apt-cache policy $packagehere
[22:09] <recon_tv> http://paste.ubuntu.com/854610/
[22:09] <recon_tv> should the ppa appear in sources.list ?
[22:11] <recon_tv> i used sudo apt-add-repository ppa:phw/musicbrainz
[22:12] <Unit193> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/phw-musicbrainz-oneiric.list
[22:12] <Unit193> Something closer to that.
[22:13] <recon_tv>  cat phw-musicbrainz-oneiric.list deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/phw/musicbrainz/ubuntu oneiric main
[22:13] <recon_tv> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/phw/musicbrainz/ubuntu oneiric main
[22:14] <recon_tv> opps, enter sent it , did not add line break
[22:14] <recon_lap> so it it fecked?
[22:14] <recon_lap> is it*
[22:15] <Unit193> ...Those lines are just fine, no problems there. I see it didn't show as a source in the policy and you said it's not working when you update the cache...
[22:19] <recon_lap> and yet ... stumped
[22:19] <Unit193> How much you want to bet it's a basic thing we're both missing?
[22:20] <recon_lap> is it ok to think that the repo is incorrect?
[22:20] <Unit193> Not really, I followed it just fine.
[22:22] <Unit193> You're also looking at the wrong package: https://launchpad.net/~phw/+archive/musicbrainz
[22:22] <Unit193> I just added it with no problems on a Natty box.
[22:26] <recon_lap> Unit193: and what version of juicer have you got? the 20110330-1 one or something later?
[22:28] <Unit193> That program in that repo is only for lucid.
[22:29] <Unit193> Would you be looking for rbrainz, picard, or mb-discid?
[22:31] <recon_lap> Unit193: I don't know :-(
[22:33] <Unit193> I'm sorry, I can't help you with that part of it as I don't use the service or program. :P
[22:35] <recon_lap> well, I'll try install rbrains , points back to the bug being marked fixed/released being premature
[22:53] <recon_lap> well, i'm defeated
[22:56] <beata> Heyas. I'm poking at an issue with the cursor returning to default in some areas, such as menus. Ideas?
[23:01] <ChristopherNg> hello!
[23:01] <ChristopherNg> knome: you there?
[23:04] <recon_lap> anyone know how i add the power management brightness apllet on the tool bar?
[23:11] <Pasq89> how do i disable touchpad while typing?
[23:16] <mongy> i tend to disable it completely.  synclient TouchpadOff=1
[23:18] <mongy> man syndaemon
[23:18] <mongy> syndaemon -i -d
[23:19] <beata> Still kind of need it myself. Hey, while the question's up, wouldn't happen to know how to disable taps from console, would ya?
[23:21] <mongy> man syndaemon :)
[23:22] <mongy> '-t'
[23:23] <mongy> syndaemon -i 2.0 -d  to disable while typing..     syndaemon -i 2.0 -d -t    to disable taps
[23:24] <beata> I get 'Can't open display." ;)
[23:27] <mongy> hmm no idea what that is
[23:28] <beata> That's when you don't have X running, of course. :) But hey.
[23:29] <beata> I *think* I'm down to just tweaking stuff now, once I get the cursor issue resolved.
[23:30] <xubuntu916> derp
[23:31] <mongy> I assumed you at least had an X display :)
[23:32] <xubuntu916> erm... i wasn't paying attention too much to the install. is there supposed to be a progress indicator while installing?
[23:32] <beata> Heh. I'm in X at the moment, but I'm still more comfortable with the console.
[23:34] <beata> But yeah, I had to turn that off; I'm prone to accidental tapping.
[23:37] <Pasq89> syndaemon works pretty nice! thank you mongy one more time!
[23:37] <recon_lap> ok, installed the xfce4-power-manager-plugin , added it to the toolbar and clicked on it, nothing
[23:38] <mongy> recon_lap, is that the screensaver not being disabled for you when playing videoss?
[23:38] <mongy> videos*
[23:38] <mongy> I had that once, it kicked in after I'd changed my xscreensaver times.  I changed them again and it worked.. I have not touched them since..
[23:39] <recon_lap> mongy: no, that me going blind in front if this TV =-O
[23:41] <recon_lap> the video/screen saver bug is a different one , as is the cd ripping one , as is the network encryption locking up when playing urban terror , the list just keep growing :-(
[23:42] <beata> I think the only tweaks I want to make right now are: Window sounds; Pinnable app bar; Visible mount indicator. At least that's all that comes off the top of my head.
[23:42] <mongy> :( guess I'm lucky
[23:42] <knome> ChristopherNg, ?
[23:43] <mongy> beata, there is that mount plugin... tho I use places plugin to mount/unmount
[23:43] <mongy> a bit nicer at it
[23:45] <beata>  I do have places enabled right now. It's easy to get to, just not toplevel-visible like the gnome2 plugin. ;)
[23:45] <recon_lap> well , enough ubuntu xfce misery for one day, thx for the help
[23:48] <mongy> meh, pasq89 went
[23:49] <mongy> knome, he and I found a bug when installing xubuntu-desktop from an lubuntu install, it sets lightdm.conf to try and use unity-greeter
[23:49] <knome> mongy, aha. did you file it?
[23:49] <mongy> along with ambiance theme and wallpaper that does not exist.
[23:49] <beata> After I get a little more comfortable, I'm off to kernel-land to work on laptop stuff.
[23:49] <mongy> :( didn't have time
[23:50] <mongy> because he didnt do what I told him to do the first, second or third time, it ate what time I had at the time.
[23:50] <knome> right. could you file a bug now?
[23:50] <knome> that would be the most helpful
[23:51] <mongy> i think my eyes could stay open long enough
[23:51] <mongy> long day, late
[23:51] <knome> could or couldn't? ;)
[23:51] <mongy> could.
[23:54] <mongy> been a while since I did
[23:54] <knome> well, it's not too hard
[23:54] <knome> and even if you miss some bits, triagers will ask for more
[23:54] <mongy> well, they won't get it tonight :)
[23:55] <knome> mmh
[23:55] <knome> np
[23:56] <mongy> not sure if it's just an xubuntu thing or what.
[23:57] <mongy> I only tried to replicate what he did in a vm, found it did the same, and told him for the 4th time to change lightdm.conf