[00:20] <sizz> i've just installed a call of duty 2 demo which i'm playing via wine. everything seems fine except there's no sound. does anyone know what the best sound setup is for wine under kubuntu?
[00:32] <sizz> okay.. 'pulseaudio -k' fixes it. sound working now!
[00:33] <lorecaster> no one in #ubuntu is even responding to me, let alone helping. I managed to blow away all of my settings for speakers while trying to config my BLUE SNOWBALL microphone. not a UI issue.
[00:33] <lorecaster> any takers?
[00:35] <DarthFrog> lorecaster: It's not that you're being ignored (though it seems like it).  Rather it's because no-one has the help for which you're asking.
[00:36] <lorecaster> same difference from my perspective :P though I completely understand. It sounded more pityful the way i phrased it, though.
[00:36] <lorecaster> can't blame a guy for trying, Darthfrog.
[00:37] <DarthFrog> Oh, no-one's blaming you for anything.  Both channels are for support and you are expected/encouraged to ask questions.
[00:37] <DarthFrog> But generally no-one pipes up unless s/he has something positive to contribute.
[00:38] <lorecaster> oh, no worries. I'm no stranger here. :) I owe you guys half my grades for my early college career, keeping my compy going. ;)
[00:42] <lorecaster> Don't suppose you'd be the good samaritan, Darthfrog? :P
[01:08] <ubuntu> Hello.
[01:11] <ubuntu> Hello???
[01:12] <ubuntu> Is my chat client working???
[01:15] <ubuntu> I need help with installing Adobe Flash.  Which one do I choose ---> YUM for Linux, APT for Ubuntu 10.04+???
[01:56] <eodchop> I recently bought a car that has a Mark Levinson stereo. It has the ability to play dvd audio discs. Does anyone know how i can burn a bunch of mp3 to dvd? I tried burning a dvd disc by making a data disc. It wouldnt play.
[02:01] <chuck_> Hello, audio works for in 11.10 from a fresh install, but stopped working after I upgraded to the latest updates
[02:01] <DasKreech> eodchop: DVD audio is not DVD Data
[02:02] <eodchop> Ok.
[02:02] <chuck_> its a intel audio card
[02:02] <chuck_> onboard
[02:04] <DasKreech> eodchop: I think Brasero can do DVD Audio
[02:05] <DasKreech> chuck_: check your phonon settings? Might be pointing at the wrong device
[02:05] <chuck_> DasKreech: Already have
[02:05] <eodchop> DasKreech: Thanks. I will grab it and check it out
[02:16]  * chuck_ cries... I just wanna hear music :(
[02:21] <DasKreech> chuck_: What happens when you do a audio test?
[02:21] <chuck_> DasKreech: I get no audio
[02:22] <DasKreech> chuck_: what are the options it has for your soundcard?
[02:23] <chuck_> in the audio hardware setup?
[02:25] <chuck_> hmmm
[02:25] <chuck_> well the front headphone port works
[02:25] <chuck_> it looks like it doesn't switch to the rear port when the headphones are unplugged
[02:26] <chuck_> actually, if I plug it in half way, it switches to the rear
[02:26] <chuck_> but fully out, or fully in it says "analog headphones" instead of "analog output"
[02:34] <chuck_> DasKreech: well the problem seems to have fixed it self... for now
[02:34] <chuck_> DasKreech: AND... its back :(
[02:36] <chuck_> its like something is forcing analog headphones as the default device
[02:40] <DasKreech> chuck_: ugh. Sounds like a pulseaudio thing
[02:40]  * DasKreech isn't that hip with the pulseaudio/alsa crossover oint
[03:15] <artao> hai: i'm having a cursor-redraw issue on my secondary monitor -- i.e. it's a white square .. it's fine on the primary and works fine on the secondary. .. just not drawing right ... .... goes away if i log out and back in .. not sure why it happens, it just does sometimes .... .... is there a way i can just 're-start' the display to make that go away without logging out and back in?
[03:29] <tintoy> hi everyone, can anyone help me  how to rsync to a remote server using different por
[03:29] <tintoy> hi everyone, can anyone help me  how to rsync to a remote server using different port
[03:30] <DarthFrog> tintoy:   rsync -avvPe "ssh -p <port #> .... "
[03:31] <DarthFrog> Oops, make that:   rsync -avvPe "ssh -p <port #>" ....
[03:31] <tintoy> DarthFrog:this is my case, I want to pull somefiles from a remote server using port 2300
[03:32] <DarthFrog> tintoy:   rsync -avvPe "ssh -p 2300"
[03:36] <tintoy> DartFrog: rsync -av rsync://root@www.trendy.org:2300/var/www/inv2010/* /var/www/main/
[03:36] <DarthFrog> Does that work?
[03:36] <tintoy> DarthFrog:is this correct?
[03:36] <tintoy> DarthFrog: rsync -av rsync://root@www.trendy.org:2300/var/www/inv2010/* /var/www/main/
[03:37] <DarthFrog> I shouldn't think so.
[03:37] <tintoy> DarthFrog: rsync: server sent "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.8p1 Debian-7ubuntu1" rather than greeting
[03:37] <tintoy> rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1524) [Receiver=3.0.7]
[03:37] <tintoy> DarthFrog: I have received that error after applying that command, and I think I got wrong
[03:37] <DarthFrog> rsync -ave "ssh -p 2300"  user@remotehost:/directory/file <local directory>
[03:39] <tintoy> DarthFrog:can you give correct example based on this command:
[03:39] <DarthFrog> tintoy: Public support benefits everyone, private support only helps one.
[03:39] <tintoy> DarthFrog:rsync -av rsync://root@www.trendy.org:2300/var/www/inv2010/* /var/www/main/
[03:40] <tintoy> DarthFrog:Thanks for giving that concept. I really promotes opensource. so nice!
[03:40] <DarthFrog> rsync -avvPe "ssh -p 2300" root@www.trendy.org:/var/www/inv2010/  /var/www/main/
[03:40] <tintoy> DarthFrog: I'll try it
[03:41] <DarthFrog> That should grab all files in /var/www/inv2010/ and put them in local /var/www/main.
[03:42] <tintoy> DarthFrog: You're so nice! Really great help!! it really works!!!
[03:42] <DarthFrog> You're welcome.
[03:42] <DarthFrog> Though it shouldn't, really.  Allowing root logins is bad form.
[03:42] <tintoy> DarthFrog::)
[03:42] <DarthFrog> Unless you have PKI authentication.
[03:43] <tintoy> DarthFrog: Why allowing root logins is bad form?
[03:43] <DarthFrog> Massive security risk.
[03:44] <DarthFrog> Though using SSH-agent and PKI authentication ameliorates the risk immensely.
[03:45] <tintoy> DarthFrog: what is ameliorates?
[03:45] <DarthFrog> In your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file, you should have "AllowRootLogins without-password".
[03:45] <DarthFrog> Lessens.
[03:45] <DarthFrog> decreases/
[03:45] <DarthFrog> reduces.
[03:47] <tintoy> DarthFrog:Thank you so much sir!
[03:48] <DarthFrog> Oops, actually it's not AllowRootLogins, it's "PermitRootLogin without-password".  That's a cut 'n paste from one of my servers.
[03:48] <tintoy> DarthFrog: No problem
[03:49] <DarthFrog> The "without-password" prevents a cracker from trying to get in by guessing the root password.  Even if s/he guesses it correctly, it won't work.  It demands PKI authentication.
[03:56] <DasKreech> artao_beeblebrox: :)
[03:57] <DasKreech> DarthFrog: Massive Security risk is a bit overstating
[03:58] <DasKreech> artao_beeblebrox: Did you get a way to restart the display?
[04:13] <brambleclaw> what is the teminal command to continue an inturupted install?
[04:14] <brambleclaw> pardon, terminal
[04:15] <brambleclaw> never mind i got it
[04:15] <brambleclaw> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:18] <DasKreech> sudo dpjg --configure -a
[04:18] <artao_beeblebrox> DasKreech: hai. .. sorry, no
[04:18] <artao_beeblebrox> aside from logging out/in
[04:19] <brambleclaw> huh?
[04:19] <DasKreech> xrefresh ?
[04:20] <brambleclaw> the command sudo dpkg --configure -a worked
[04:20] <brambleclaw> or is working
[04:22] <brambleclaw> i actually got the command from here the first time it happened
[04:23] <kdr> hi ppl
[04:23] <artao_beeblebrox> ok ... how do i get the proper host:dpy to enter?  xrandr shows my displays as DVI-0 and DVI-1
[04:24] <kdr> i have a question about lshw outputs
[04:24] <DasKreech> kdr: ok
[04:25] <kdr> all the clock frequencies are listed as 33 MHz
[04:25] <artao_beeblebrox> xrefresh -d DVI-1 gives me :: xrefresh:  unable to open display 'DVI-1'
[04:25] <kdr> for cpu, memory controller, pci, etc
[04:25] <kdr> sry, not cpu
[04:25] <artao_beeblebrox> err except i spelled it right
[04:26] <artao_beeblebrox> .. even with sudo appended
[04:26] <kdr> i'm pretty sure the ram is running at a higher frequency than that, but this isn't displayed anywhere
[04:26] <kdr> am i looking in the wrong place?
[04:26] <artao_beeblebrox> err ... pre-pended ...
[04:31] <DasKreech> artao_beeblebrox: try xrandr to see what the readout is
[04:31] <DasKreech> kdr: It's probably run through a multipler?
[04:31] <artao_beeblebrox> 1 sec
[04:32] <artao_beeblebrox> here's the output :: http://paste.ubuntu.com/854967/
[04:34] <DasKreech> artao_beeblebrox: try -display instead of -d
[04:34] <artao_beeblebrox> i also tried xrefresh -d Screen 0:DVI-1 ... but the space of course doesn't work
[04:34] <DasKreech> artao_beeblebrox: if you want to do an arguement with a space enclose them in quotes
[04:35] <artao_beeblebrox> nope
[04:35] <artao_beeblebrox> yep, just tried xrefresh -display "Screen 0:DVI-1" and got the unable to open display
[04:36] <kdr> sorry, i'm really new to this & not sure what that means. the reason i'm trying to look at this is i want to buy new ram & match the frequency with current DIMMs
[04:37] <DasKreech> kdr: The frequency is written on the DIMS
[04:37] <DasKreech> You can usually eyeball them
[04:38] <DasKreech> artao_beeblebrox: it's much more likely to be -display :0.1
[04:38] <kdr> ah ok, thanks!
[04:38] <kdr> bye for now! :)
[04:39] <artao_beeblebrox> nope. and i have now tried several variations on that as well
[04:40] <artao_beeblebrox> prolly just my crappy vid card, which i'll be replacing soon
[04:40] <artao_beeblebrox> fairly minor annoyance .. just have to log out and in
[04:40] <artao_beeblebrox> and did i read online that KDE is dropping altogether support for AMD-ATI cards?
[04:41] <artao_beeblebrox> or was that about Unity?
[04:43] <DasKreech> artao_beeblebrox: Either wouldn't be true
[04:44] <artao_beeblebrox> internet rumors or imagination then ... or the universe changed on me without notification
[04:44] <DasKreech> What driver are you using?
[04:45] <artao_beeblebrox> what i can. umm .. gflrx or something i think?
[04:45] <artao_beeblebrox> i tried the catalyst drivers and that broke it broke it
[04:45] <artao_beeblebrox> my card is a mere x600
[04:46] <artao_beeblebrox> i plan on purchasing .. SOON .. a geforce gtx460 or gtx550 ..... maybe gtx560 TI if i can swing it
[04:46] <artao_beeblebrox> what sort of PITA is it to completely switch vid cards under linux these days?
[04:46] <DasKreech> flgrx
[04:47] <artao_beeblebrox> just shut down, switch cards, reboot, say ok a bunch of times, reboot, and it's all ok?
[04:47] <artao_beeblebrox> ys, thx. flgrx
[04:47] <DasKreech> artao_beeblebrox: umm should just be a reboot
[04:47] <DasKreech> though you may want to spend some time futzing with new drivers depending on how fussy you are
[04:48] <artao_beeblebrox> semi-non-sequiter: years ago a buddy had linux on one machine in his network and we decided to just pull the OS hard drive and stick it in one of the windows machines
[04:48] <artao_beeblebrox> i think that took 3 reboots, but it ran fine in the end.
[04:49] <DasKreech> Yeah that sounds like early Linux 2.6 kernels
[04:49] <DasKreech> Probably before initrd
[04:49] <artao_beeblebrox> the whole first output of boot was a bunch of like: "HEY!! Waitaminit!! This isn't at ALL what you told me I'd be running on .... Hold on a second ... "
[04:49] <DasKreech> but should run fine :)
[04:49] <DasKreech> Yeah ^_^
[04:49] <artao_beeblebrox> it. amazed. us.
[04:50] <artao_beeblebrox> we tried the converse with the win .... 98? NT 4? ... OS drive and ... well ... no. just no.
[04:51] <DasKreech> Yeah that takes some forethought
[04:51] <DasKreech> probably installing things before
[04:51] <DasKreech> Windows is a lot more forgiving of video card changes now
[04:51] <artao_beeblebrox> win 7 or 8 would prolly fry yer computer for even trying
[04:51] <artao_beeblebrox> ;0
[04:51] <DasKreech> Try not changing the Mobo Chipset though it will explode
[04:52] <DasKreech> And not even from the Drivers. It will think that you are bypassing the license and get really huffy
[04:52] <artao_beeblebrox> well. i know in xp i have to uninstall the vid card. swap cards. reboot. install new drivers. reboot
[04:53] <DasKreech> Or install the new drivers first
[04:53] <DasKreech> but that gets messier
[04:53] <artao_beeblebrox> i've always had problems doing that under xp ... no experience beyond that
[04:53] <DasKreech> dropping back to basic PCI drivers is cleaner
[04:53] <artao_beeblebrox> even rebooting into admin/safe mode to do the whole process
[04:54] <artao_beeblebrox> especially when completely switching brand/chipset
[04:54] <artao_beeblebrox> i've always gone ati in the past ... but i kinda need the CUDA tech for 3d graphics
[04:54] <DasKreech> \o/
[04:55] <artao_beeblebrox> openCL looks cool, but isn't very mature or supported yet ... and i'm lookin for a card NOW heh
[04:55] <artao_beeblebrox> i can't WAIT to be able to do 90 minute cpu renders in under 10 minutes on gpu
[04:57] <artao_beeblebrox> ... i'm even considering adding a 3rd head to the system ... as the mobo HAS an onboard vga display port as well .. and i a spare crt
[04:57] <artao_beeblebrox> would be nice with ... say .. Flight Gear
[04:57] <artao_beeblebrox> or racing games
[04:58] <artao_beeblebrox> how is linux with assigning multiple displays thru multiple video cards but keeping them all as the "same display" as it were
[04:59] <artao_beeblebrox> i have noticed windows is much more ... elegant ... in regards to multi-heading ... .. ... altho perhaps, perhaps! .. not as .. flexible
[05:00] <artao_beeblebrox> ... if it weren't snowing, i might go hunt galaxies ..
[05:01] <DasKreech> artao_beeblebrox: depends highly on your driver
[05:03] <artao_beeblebrox> i c
[05:03] <artao_beeblebrox> well. i know the geforce i end up with will be rather recent. not bleeding edge, but recent. so no prob with the dual head
[05:04] <artao_beeblebrox> adding in the MB svga out tho ...
[05:04] <artao_beeblebrox> not even sure what it is .. intel something? maybe?
[05:05] <artao_beeblebrox> this machine is a craigslist purchase .. gift from my parents ... not quite what i'da bout, but better than my other machine
[05:06] <artao_beeblebrox> pimpin 'er as much as i can whilst fantasizing about what i WANT to build
[05:07] <artao_beeblebrox> i. want. octacore. .. at least 16G ram. SLI vid cards. terrabyte raid. 2 to 4 displays
[05:07] <artao_beeblebrox> ahh to dream. to dream to sleep ....
[05:07] <artao_beeblebrox> !fortune
[05:07] <DasKreech> :-)
[05:08] <artao_beeblebrox> AHHH  .!! ... fortune isn't installed on my machine either!!   how could they!!
[05:08] <DasKreech> I'd probably tell you to hang oout in #phoronix but the hardware snob wars in there can't be healthy
[05:08] <DasKreech> !info fortune
[05:08] <DasKreech> oh my
[05:08] <DasKreech> !search fortune
[05:08] <DasKreech> 1find fortune
[05:09] <DasKreech> !find fortune
[05:09] <DasKreech> !info fortunes-ubuntu-server
[05:09] <DasKreech> !info fortunes
[05:09] <artao_beeblebrox> THERE!!   'sudo apt-get install fortune' .. wait .. yes ... wait .. DUNZ
[05:09] <DasKreech> Ah cooo :)
[05:09] <DasKreech> artao_beeblebrox: Missing an s
[05:10] <artao_beeblebrox> an 's' ??
[05:10] <artao_beeblebrox> missed me, sry
[05:10] <artao_beeblebrox> what is #phoronix ??
[05:11] <artao_beeblebrox> i kow i'm being a bit chatty for a channel such as this .. sry
[05:11] <artao_beeblebrox> i wouldn't do so if it were more active =]
[05:11] <artao_beeblebrox> my other channels are pretty dead too
[05:12] <DasKreech> artao_beeblebrox: #phoronix is an IRC channel
[05:12] <artao_beeblebrox> i tend to avoid the 'crowded' ones as they can be overwhelming at times
[05:12] <DasKreech> sudo apt-get install fortunes
[05:12] <artao_beeblebrox> i know that :P  ... the topic/theme/etc of #phoronix?  the name gives no hints to me
[05:13] <joshwines> artao_beeblebrox: http://www.phoronix.com/
[05:13] <artao_beeblebrox> well, search #join list for phoronix description
[05:14] <artao_beeblebrox> AHHHH!!! HUGE ADVERTISEMENT!!
[05:15] <artao_beeblebrox> i c ... discuss latest linux hardware software news, plus test suite
[05:15] <DasKreech> :-)
[05:15] <artao_beeblebrox> =]
[05:15] <artao_beeblebrox> at leat the ad didn't have audio
[05:15] <DasKreech> It's a pretty detailed hardware site from the point of view of a linux user
[05:15] <artao_beeblebrox> i hate those
[05:15] <DasKreech> BUUUYYMEEEEEEEE
[05:15] <artao_beeblebrox> pop up ... SOMEHOW. .. past everything .. in the background
[05:16] <artao_beeblebrox> yer 30 seconds or more into whatever you WANT to watch, when this LOUDER ad comes on and yer like WTF!!!
[05:16] <artao_beeblebrox> i have added it to my 'view now and then and check for info' list
[05:16] <artao_beeblebrox> thx =]
[05:17] <artao_beeblebrox> ok ... NO ... what else is on
[05:17] <artao_beeblebrox> i luvz me some good Frontline ... but am in NO mood for an investiation into .. suspicious .. child deaths
[05:18] <artao_beeblebrox> "shaken baby syndrome" indeed!!!!
[05:18] <artao_beeblebrox> == murdered by abuse
[05:19] <artao_beeblebrox> ...
[05:19]  * artao_beeblebrox shakes his head
[05:19] <artao_beeblebrox> maybe i need a 'crowd chat' room tonite
[05:19] <artao_beeblebrox> i'll stop bothering you =]
[05:20] <artao_beeblebrox> thx for the help tho!! i'm certain this is a case of crappy old vid card with barely supported drivers
[05:20] <artao_beeblebrox> i'm'a g'wan log on out 'n' back in to clear up my display then .. i give a hi/bye when successful
[05:23] <artao> back and all good
[05:23] <artao> thx again =]
[05:29] <DasKreech> ha ha :)
[05:29] <DasKreech> that didn't take long
[05:35] <artao> sure. minor pita, as i said .. but 3 min vs a couple seconds ..
[05:35] <DasKreech> Yeah I suppose
[05:36] <DasKreech>  and KDE remembers all the stuff you had open
[06:05] <Gonzalo> can anyone help me? i cant boot kubuntu, im stuck at a flashing blue screen and the a black one :/
[06:07] <DasKreech> Gonzalo: How far into the boot process?
[06:40] <jonah> hi can anyone please help, i've made a bit of a mess of my kubuntu system. I have a new ultrabook so it doesn't work great with the standard kernel for powersaving/trackpad/wifi etc so I installed an rc of 3.3.0 which works well. Problem is I tried to install Virtualbox and Vmware Player which haven't installed properly (must be because of the kernels not matching the vm stuff) so now my computer doesn't start or shutdown properly
[06:40] <jonah> without a load of errors. And package manager won't let me remove them... Can anyone please help as I have a presentation in 2 hours and would be nice if my computer booted up and down properly for work today. thanks for any help please :)
[06:40] <FloodBotK1> jonah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <jonah> sorry wasn't trying to flood, i just have a genuine problem
[06:43] <bazhang> jonah, rc of kernel?
[06:44] <jonah> bazhang: 3.3.0-030300rc4-generic
[06:45] <bazhang> jonah, and vbox from where? and what kernel headers?
[06:45] <jonah> bazhang: when i shutdown kubuntu can't close some services and vm stuff and hangs, then on boot up it comes up with grub asking which kernel i want to boot as the machine didn't shutdown properly. then on boot a few errors flash by too before the desktop starts up
[06:46] <jonah> bazhang: i just downloaded the 3 kernel files for ubuntu from the ppa mainline kernel repo. i didn't download any kernels or headers etc for vm and vbox - i just tried to install them from muon/apt
[06:46] <jonah> bazhang: i can see now in hindsight this was a silly thing to do...
[06:48] <bazhang> jonah, well what is the presentation involve
[06:48] <bazhang> err does
[06:48] <jonah> bazhang: the presentation doesn't need either, i just need to get the computer stable and remove whatever vbox and vmware have attached so everything works ok again
[06:49] <DasKreech> can't you just choose your old kernel at boot?
[06:49] <jonah> DasKreech: the old kernel doesn't work properly with my new laptop, the wifi etc won't work with it well
[06:53] <jonah> when i try do something in apt it says i need to run dpkg configure a, but then i get this http://pastebin.ca/2121214
[06:53] <jonah> and it just hangs on that and won't get past it...
[06:55] <jonah> then i can't use apt at all in a new console etc as it says that it has a super user lock on already
[06:56] <jonah> meaning i have to reboot again which is also a pain, so now i can't install or uninstall anything either!!
[06:57] <new2net> I am making a partition for my backup files ~100  tar.gz|tar.bz2 files between 500MB and 12GB. I am wondering what type of partition would be good for this, they rarely need to be accessed, so I would prefer the partition type be better for storing large files even if there is a trade off with the speed at which the files can be read from the partition. Is there a recommend type of partition for this?
[07:04] <DasKreech> new2net: Any partition would work well for that
[07:05] <Lynoure> new2net: if it is on the same disk as you data, you are already sacrificing speed and security significantly
[07:05] <Lynoure> s/you data/your data/
[07:05] <DasKreech> jonah: what's the difference in WiFi?
[07:07] <new2net> Lynoure, it is NOT on the same disk as my data. The disk is separate and the idea (hopefully) is the set a flag on this partition that lets kubuntu know- "these files are never to be executed", as they are archives and nothing on the drive is meant to be executed.
[07:07] <Lynoure> new2net: good. :)
[07:07] <jonah> DasKreech: it works in new kernel but not in old
[07:08] <jonah> i'm stuck now with dpkg was interrupted, you must run dpkg --configure -a. when i try to run this it gets stuck again. what can i do?
[07:08] <DasKreech> jonah: What's the driver it's using in the new vs old ?
[07:08] <DasKreech> new2net: I'm not sure that you can do that
[07:09] <jonah> DasKreech: i'm happy keeping this kernel, i just want to remove virtualbox and vmware player somehow??
[07:09] <Lynoure> new2net: seems you know what you are doing :) There are some speed difference between filesystem types, but they are not probably significant enough to care about or relevant for this purpose.
[07:12] <DasKreech> jonah: Just stop the vmware kernel modules from engaging and then remove vmware
[07:12] <DasKreech> new2net: You can set the parition to be readonly
[07:13] <jonah> DasKreech: i've stopped them but my problem is apt won't work. it says i need to run dpkg --configure a, but when i do this it hangs on "stopping virtualbox kernel modules"
[07:14] <DasKreech> jonah: why is it stopping the kernel modules if they are already stopped?
[07:14] <new2net> DasKreech, yes. But I don't understand what these partition flags mean: (arvrecv bios_grub boot diag hidden hp-service lvm msftres raid). Where can I learn about each flag?
[07:15] <new2net> I know what bios_grub and raid are, the rest are foreign to me.
[07:16] <DasKreech> new2net: where are you seeing those?
[07:19] <DasKreech> new2net: boot means that the computer can boot from that partition
[07:19] <DasKreech> hidden is self explanatory
[07:19] <DasKreech> lvm is a part of the Logical Volume manager suite
[07:20] <new2net> DasKreech, I hope you don't get mad that I'm using a gdm at the moment: http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2122/screenshotveu.png
[07:20] <Lynoure> new2net: I don't know what arvrecv is either. Whether things are executable (noexec) is a mount option.
[07:21] <DasKreech> new2net: Again none of what you want is part of the partition creation process
[07:21] <DasKreech> Just create a partition and don't worry so much about those options
[07:22] <new2net> DasKreech, ok. sounds good :)
[07:22] <Lynoure> new2net: ah, atvrcv, it's for another bootloader
[07:22] <DasKreech> Lynoure: Far as I know it's an Apple setting for some of thier devices
[07:23] <DasKreech> new2net: what you probably want is to mount the partition ro for readonly
[07:24] <Lynoure> DasKreech: that makes it harder to backup to it, unless one keeps on remounting. I'd probably go so far that I'd only mount on demand.
[07:24] <DasKreech> look into Redhat's automounter
[07:24] <Lynoure> unless it is for some timemachine-like constant backupping
[07:27] <new2net> DasKreech, Lynoure, The backups are manually done. I will keep the partition unmounted unless I am dealing with backups. That sounds better than read-only, do you agree?
[07:31] <new2net> DasKreech, Lynoure, in any case. I understand how to do what it is I'm wanting :) thank you both for your help.
[07:39] <Lynoure> new2net: if you do recovery, at that point mounting read-only is good, because it's a stressful situation where people easily copy the wrong way around.
[09:12] <rosco_y> When I try to install flash player 11.1 from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?no_redirect, I get a "
[09:12] <rosco_y> sorry
[09:13] <hateball> you get a what?
[09:13] <rosco_y> I get an "Apturl error: Unknown channel 'natty-parter'."  Does anyone know what I should do?
[09:13] <hateball> Their deb sucks. Grab the tar.gz, unpack in some temp-dir, copy libflashplayer.se to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[09:13] <hateball> done
[09:13] <rosco_y> (I'm running kubuntu 11.04)
[09:14] <hateball> assuming you use firefox
[09:14] <rosco_y> actually, I'm using chrome
[09:14] <hateball> libflashplayer.so, not .se
[09:14] <hateball> iirc chrome looks there for plugins as well
[09:14] <rosco_y> hateball: ty, not sure actually
[09:15] <rosco_y> Thank you hateball, I'll try to grab the tar from somewhere and copy the file as you direct :)
[09:15] <hateball> rosco_y: otherwise you can copy to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
[09:16] <hateball> I think
[09:16] <hateball> rosco_y: you can choose tar.gz from adobe
[09:16] <rosco_y> hateball: ty, I'm downloading it now....
[09:18] <rosco_y> hateball: my /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins directory is currently empty--will it work to simply copy the .so file there?
[09:19] <hateball> rosco_y: that is how I remember it
[09:19] <hateball> I dont have flash on this machine
[09:19] <rosco_y> :) done.  I'll restart my browser and see how it goes :)
[09:19] <rosco_y> (thanks a lot!)
[09:21] <hateball> rosco_y: I found this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-flash-support-for-google-chromium-browser.html
[09:21] <hateball> I dont recall having to --enable-plugins tho
[09:25] <rosco_y> hateball: ty--worked like a charm :)
[09:34] <jonah_> hi does anyone know how to run an fsck from recovery mode please?
[09:35] <jonah_> i've ran repair kernel boot up and pressed fsck but it doesn't seem to be doing anything
[09:38] <ikonia> jonah_: it won't be an fsck issue
[09:45] <stephans_> I am running atop and it is idicating red for vmcom: 5.3G and vmlim of 3.8... what does this mean?
[11:02] <kbroulik> does the kubuntu live session use other drivers/configuration than an installation? in the live cd my graphics card and everything works perfectly, when installed I only get a picture on one monitor, tnhe other is grey or with artefacts .. on the live cd my WiFi worked fine, now it doesnt
[11:06] <lightstar> kbroulik: have you installed the additional drivers once Kubuntu is installed on your pc?
[11:07] <kbroulik> additional drivers? jockey-kde just offers me the fglrx driver
[11:07] <kbroulik> hmm weird, when I unplug and replug the stick it works
[11:07] <kbroulik> but on system start up or when I have disabled it and reenable it, it doe snot … it uses the r8712u driver thing
[11:09] <lightstar> kbroulik: the proprietary driver? strange
[11:09] <kbroulik> ?
[11:10] <lightstar> kbroulik: oops, it is the proprietary driver. sorry, got confused for a moment
[11:10] <kbroulik> I did not check the "Install additional drivers" when installing kubuntu because I had to reinstall the system 3 times due to stupid graphics driver thing, and now it works but WiFi not reliable :(
[11:12] <kbroulik> ah, lightstar, I got a forum entry about the exact same problem with the exact same stick, let me try :)
[11:12] <lightstar> kbroulik: good for you :)
[13:14] <the_p> hi. i'm having troubles with the nvidia driver. i can see in nvidia x-server settings that there are 3 performance levels and altough i'm not using my gpu it is always in the highest one. as i am on a notebook i would like to have it on the lowest if i do not need my gpu to save energy.
[13:14] <the_p> is there any way to achieve this?
[13:40] <ironfroggy> i can't get any audio after a reboot, not even any levels shown in pavucontrol for the streams when they are playing
[13:41] <ironfroggy> i have restarted pulseaudio, with no results. is there something else i could kick that might be malfunctioning?
[13:45] <hateball> ironfroggy: I had an issue like that when booting a laptop without AC plugged in (!)
[13:46] <hateball> For whatever arcane reason
[13:46] <ironfroggy> that is very strange
[13:47] <ironfroggy> i also have other strange things with audio, and i dont know what it is _supposed_ to do, so maybe my expectations are wrong
[13:47] <ironfroggy> when i open up the sound settings in KDE, should i see my individual sound devices or just "PulseAudio server"?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[13:53] <almoxarife> hey
[14:53] <nellux> ciao
[15:38] <`korvin> I'm trying to install wine, and i's telling me to put kubuntu 11.10 in the disc drive
[15:38] <`korvin> -.-
[15:38] <`korvin> I'm booted off a portable harddrive
[16:27] <stephans_> I am running atop and it is idicating red for vmcom: 5.3G and vmlim of 3.8... what does this mean?
[16:29] <designbybeck> Greetings Cool Kids!
[16:32] <designbybeck> I know this is my 3rd time to ask, but still just trying to throw out some random ideas and looking for the best solution for a Public Access computer
[16:32] <BluesKaj> stephans_,  I think that's your / partition , which is proly getting full without much headroom left for defaults
[16:32] <designbybeck> I have my main login to it, and I created a Public user who isn't part of the admin group
[16:33] <BluesKaj> hi designbybeck
[16:33] <designbybeck> The Public user can see view files and read them from within the main users /home directory
[16:33] <designbybeck> so that is kinda an issue
[16:33] <designbybeck> Hello BluesKaj
[16:33] <BluesKaj> designbybeck, as long as the public user has read permissions only
[16:33] <designbybeck> I also want to set a basic password that everyone will know for the public computer, but no one can change
[16:34] <designbybeck> when I was doing it in Ubuntu the firrst time around BluesKaj, someone in that chat room had me do a command where the Public person couldn't even see the /main user files
[16:34] <designbybeck> so that was nice
[16:34] <designbybeck> just don't remember what command that was
[16:34] <BluesKaj> then make sure only the admin group can change pws
[16:37] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  someone more familiar with public use computer permissions will know , i suggest you try the #ubuntu chat , they havew 10X the ppl in their chat and some are very knowledgable and help full...all the commands are the same as kubuntu of course
[16:37] <BluesKaj> err helpful
[16:38] <designbybeck> ahh ok thanks BluesKaj i'll go there
[16:38] <BluesKaj> cool
[16:41] <yofel> designbybeck: you just need to remove access permissions for 'other' from the main users home folder
[16:41] <designbybeck> hmmm ok yofel, where do i do that at?
[16:42] <designbybeck> in their User Management area for groups?
[16:42] <yofel> no, it's a foder permission setting
[16:42] <yofel> *folder
[16:43] <designbybeck> oh ok
[16:43] <yofel> designbybeck: as the main user, open dolphin, open the home folder properties and  on the permissions tab remove the permissions for "Others"
[16:44] <designbybeck> I found it and changed it for toher.. .and group
[16:44] <designbybeck> is that ok yofel
[16:44] <designbybeck> for group as well?
[16:44] <yofel> remove it for the group too, if the guest user is in the main user's group
[16:44] <designbybeck> although that is the only other user besides public
[16:44] <yofel> otherwise it doesn't matter
[16:44] <designbybeck> gotcha
[16:45] <yofel> btw. command line is: 'chmod o-rwx <folder>' to remove the permissions for 'other'
[16:47] <lightstar> yofel: wouldn't chmod 700 /path/to/folder be easier to remember if he wanted to only allow the user access to the folder?
[16:48] <DarthFrog>  designbybeck: And after you issue the chmod command, issuing the command "ls -ld <folder>" should show you the permissions in a bitmap.  It should read something like 770.  The "0" is the important part, it's what you set with the chmod command.
[16:48] <yofel> o-rwx doesn't touch the user and group permissions, 700 just forces a-rwx u+rwx
[16:48] <lightstar> yofel: ahh, good to know :)
[16:48] <DarthFrog> Oops, not 770.  rwxrwx--- instead. :-)
[16:49] <designbybeck> hhmmm
[16:49] <designbybeck> so wasn't that what i did gui wise DarthFrog?
[16:50] <designbybeck> or do I still need to do somethign else
[16:50] <lightstar> wait, he wants to limit to user and group, then 770 or 740 (read only for group)...sorry, didn't read the post properly...got confused for a sec
[16:50] <DarthFrog> designbybeck: No, nothing else.  That was just a check that the command worked.
[16:50] <yofel> what you did would probably be rwx------, that's fine in this case
[16:53] <designbybeck> let me switch over and check that setting now
[16:54] <DarthFrog> !permissions | designbybeck
[16:56] <DarthFrog> As an aside, I've noticed that the majority of problems with files, that don't have obvious causes, has to do with how the permissions are set.  So now permissions are the first thing I check. :-)
[16:59] <DarthFrog> Hmm, that FilePermissions document doesn't discuss SUID or GUID.  It does discuss the sticky bit, though.
[17:00] <designbybeck> Thank you DarthFrog
[17:00] <designbybeck> I switched over to the public person and I couldn't access or see the main users info
[17:01] <designbybeck> is it going to be to hard to have some things locked, and other things open
[17:01] <designbybeck> like how do i keep them from changin the password DarthFrog? I'd like for them to do something, but not system settings and such
[17:01] <designbybeck> Inn0vat32012
[17:02] <designbybeck> someone in ubuntu chat suggested a netboot?
[17:02] <designbybeck> i understand that concept to be, everytime the computer boots up, it resets itself back to a default setup?
[17:02] <DarthFrog> designbybeck: Is this a public machine that you're giving external users shell access?  This also describes a home computer where the external access is your kid.
[17:03] <designbybeck> uh i guess you'd say that
[17:03] <designbybeck> or by "shell" you mean the terminal correct?
[17:03] <DarthFrog> Yes.
[17:03] <designbybeck> no i don't guess they should need that
[17:03] <designbybeck> i'm more concern with giving them access to productivity software
[17:03] <DarthFrog> So what do you want them to be able to do?
[17:04] <designbybeck> LibreOffice, Blender, GIMP, Inkscape and so on
[17:04] <DarthFrog> Ah, that requires shell access.
[17:04] <designbybeck> oh
[17:04] <DarthFrog> But is that all you want them to be able to do?
[17:04] <designbybeck> right
[17:04] <designbybeck> just teach and show them Open Source Software
[17:04] <DarthFrog> If so, then just set them up an account and limit permissions.
[17:05] <designbybeck> well that is what i'm trying to figure out DarthFrog, not sure what all and how all to do that
[17:05] <DarthFrog> If you want to keep your own home directory private you can either encrypt it or set restrictive permissions on your home directory.
[17:05] <designbybeck> I'm looking at the Modifying Group access stuff right now
[17:05] <DarthFrog> Don't bother, you don't need it.
[17:05] <designbybeck> i did do that from the instructions given here
[17:06] <designbybeck> what is lpadmin
[17:06] <designbybeck> I should turn off sambashare group
[17:07] <designbybeck> or you are saying i don't need to worry about any of those
[17:07] <DarthFrog> A normal user doesn't have sudo access so s/he won't be able to change passwords other than their own.
[17:07] <designbybeck> and that is another thing, i don't want them changing their own password either
[17:07] <DarthFrog> Don't worry about them, they are irrelevant to you.
[17:07] <DarthFrog> No?  Why ever not?  it's good practice.
[17:08] <DarthFrog> If you've got root access, they can't hide anything from you.
[17:08] <designbybeck> i wanted something easy and generic for anyone to walk up to it and use
[17:08] <designbybeck> like Username: public password: public
[17:08] <designbybeck> or even a login without password would be nice
[17:08] <designbybeck> like ubuntu
[17:08] <designbybeck> but i didn't see that in kubuntu
[17:09] <DarthFrog> Then change the permissions on the /usr/bin/passwd file.  That's the program that does passwords.
[17:11] <designbybeck> ok i found that file DarthFrog
[17:11] <DarthFrog> It currently has rwsr-xr-x permissions.  Simply remove the "s" permission by "sudo chmod 700 /usr/bin/passwd".  After that, only root can change any password.
[17:11] <DarthFrog> the "s" permission is the SUID bit, BTW.
[17:12] <BluesKaj> I keep getting a keyring notice at bootup, i haven't set any apps etc to "lock" I don't see anything in startup & shutdown that's relavent
[17:12] <DarthFrog> And the SUID bit has been the source of many system root hacks.
[17:13] <liudas> does anyone know how to make libreoffice (installed by LO provided debs) look good in kubuntu 11.10?
[17:13] <designbybeck> ok DarthFrog.. i did that command and did an ls -l and I see that it did change
[17:13] <designbybeck> -rwxr-------
[17:14] <liudas> interface is ugly
[17:14] <DarthFrog> After that, and restricting permission on your home directory to you alone (700 permission), your guest user should be able to run any user level program and not access your private info.
[17:14] <BluesKaj> liudas,  'look good" is amatter of opinion and visual taste
[17:15] <liudas> BluesKaj: :) no it's not about somethink additional. it doesn't integrate as 3.4
[17:16] <DarthFrog> liudas: Well, you might wait until Ubuntu provides integrated debs. :-)
[17:16] <BluesKaj> liudas,  have you upgraded your desktop ?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> KDE
[17:16] <liudas> BluesKaj: yes 4.8 from ppa
[17:17] <BluesKaj> then you won't have a lot of stable options "look - wise"
[17:18] <liudas> BluesKaj: ok i'll wait the only reason for LO 3.5 is table of content that automatikaly generates hyperlinks
[17:18] <liudas> BluesKaj: ok thanks buddy
[17:18] <designbybeck> DarthFrog: i went in as public, and the user couldn't get to the User Management area
[17:18] <designbybeck> which is what is expected
[17:19] <designbybeck> I did try a few other things, trying to change other settings, and when I did try to try the root user password it didn't seem to like that either, and crashed on one screen :/
[17:20] <DarthFrog> There is no root user password.  There is no root account.
[17:20] <designbybeck> well the administrator account is what i mean
[17:21] <DarthFrog> Same thing.
[17:21] <DarthFrog> Unless you mean the user with sudo access.
[17:21] <designbybeck> corrrect
[17:21] <designbybeck> sudo user
[17:21] <DarthFrog> and if you want to give sudo access; "sudo visudo" will let you do it. :-)
[17:22] <DarthFrog> That's the command to edit the /etc/sudoers file.  Which controls access to sudo.
[17:23]  * DarthFrog wonders if there's an equivalent command for an EMACS user? :-)
[17:24] <DarthFrog> (And, yes, I know about the EDITOR env variable).
[17:26] <designbybeck> hmm
[17:26] <designbybeck> ok
[17:26] <designbybeck> well i feel a little better about this DarthFrog
[17:26] <designbybeck> Thanks for the help
[17:27] <designbybeck> I'm hoping our IT department doesn't freak out all together and not let this go through
[17:27] <designbybeck> Our Director of the Library was all for it
[17:27] <designbybeck> he saw this as a better way to serve the community by giving them more access to more tools
[17:27] <designbybeck> and I just want to push the Open Source Mindset in Education!
[17:28] <designbybeck> as you can tell, admitedly, I dont' know much about security on a multiuser system
[17:28] <DarthFrog> Why on earth are you not going through your IT dept?
[17:28] <DarthFrog> Exactly, which is why you should be letting the IT boys do it.
[17:29] <designbybeck> they don't like me
[17:29] <designbybeck> LOL!
[17:29] <designbybeck> I'm to radical in my Open Source thinking,
[17:29] <DarthFrog> If it were me and I was being bypassed, there is no way that machine would be allowed on the network!
[17:29] <designbybeck> they think it is bad and they "can support it"
[17:30] <DarthFrog> In this case, can't = won't.
[17:30] <designbybeck> they do currently have 3 public access windows 7 computers there now
[17:30] <designbybeck> most of them don't know about Open Source, or think it isn't relevant in Education
[17:31] <DarthFrog> Relevant?  It's highly relevant.
[17:31] <DarthFrog> It is education, in itself.
[17:31] <designbybeck> not to close minded people,
[17:31] <designbybeck> not to IT's who  only know how to take Taxpayers money and go buy support contracts
[17:31] <designbybeck> They don't know how to innovate
[17:31] <designbybeck> to learn on their own
[17:32] <designbybeck> and they don't teach/cross train each other
[17:32] <Ezim> :) guys you can take this off-topic channel
[17:32] <Ezim> this is more for support
[17:32] <designbybeck> *sigh*
[17:32] <designbybeck> yes yes DarthFrog has helped me with the support I needed thus far Thank you
[17:32] <DarthFrog> Ezim:  I would argue that this is support.
[17:32] <Ezim> #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:33] <Ezim> DarthFrog, okey :). for me it sounded like more offtopic.
[17:34] <BluesKaj> heh , i know a windows trained IT guy who didn't know all the servers were linux ..it was at some dumb call center ..took him 2 mos to figure what was going on ,..funny thing is he admitted it to me :)
[17:35] <Ezim> BluesKaj, :) funny story.
[17:39] <designbybeck> do you set your NumLock to be on in Kubuntu, or is that have to bein the BIOS?
[17:44] <genii-around> Usually in BIOS
[17:46] <BluesKaj> I'll ask again : I keep getting a keyring notice at bootup, i haven't set any apps etc to "lock" I don't see anything in startup & shutdown that's relavent
[17:46] <Ezim> BluesKaj, can you take screenshot?
[17:46] <designbybeck> ok I'll shut it down and check, thanks genii-around and BluesKaj
[17:47] <BluesKaj> Ezim,  it only happens on bootup , not gonna shutdown right now
[17:47] <BluesKaj> err relevant
[17:48] <Ezim> okey.
[17:48] <Ezim> BluesKaj, nothing to do with kwallet?
[17:49] <BluesKaj> Ezim,  no i have kwalletmanager disabled
[17:51] <BluesKaj> maybe i'll chack var/log
[17:51] <BluesKaj> check
[17:52] <Ezim> BluesKaj, okey.
[17:54] <swex> hey anybody please help
[17:54] <swex> why default directory in new bash session is ~/Documents instead of ~
[17:54] <swex> ?
[17:56] <Ezim> BluesKaj, is it really save to disable kwalletmanager?
[17:57] <BluesKaj> Ezim,  , I'm just a home user
[17:57] <Ezim> BluesKaj, :) okey.
[18:00] <DarthFrog> swex: What is your $HOME set to?
[18:00] <DarthFrog> swex: Have a gander at ~/.bashrc and see if your default dir is set there.
[18:01] <swex> echo $HOME=/home/swex
[18:02] <swex> there is no any *docum* string in .bashrc
[18:02] <swex> DarthFrog, ..
[18:03] <DarthFrog> swex: You having your default directory in a BASH shell being ~/Documents is non-standard.  Mine is just ~.  Somehow you've changed it.
[18:03] <DarthFrog> swex: Bash is case-sensitive.  "documen" and Documen" are different strings to bash.
[18:06] <swex> DarthFrog, I'm searching with nano)
[18:07] <swex> DarthFrog, yep that's interesting but that's happening with my on my Laptop and Home PC too
[18:11] <`korvin> plasma crashes when I try to add a panel
[18:14] <DarthFrog> swex: Only happens to me in a GUI file dialogue.
[18:14] <DarthFrog> swex: Not in a new terminal session.
[18:14] <swex> DarthFrog, try open konsole with krunner
[18:14] <swex> alt+f2 then konsole
[18:15] <DarthFrog> swex: Works fine.  As does my preferred yakuake.
[18:16] <swex> damn mb this is tilda problem
[19:42] <jcook_5xdata> anyone know how to move a windows over virtual desktops like in unity you can use shift+ctrl+alt+arrow keys
[19:45] <peace> jcook_5xdata: mm i guess there is a system
[19:59] <RKyle> Hi, my updates seem to have hung at "Preparing to configure plasma-dataengines-workspace" and I was wondering if I stopped the update and reattempt them after a reboot if it would harm my install.
[20:06] <DasKreech> RKyle: why reboot?
[20:07] <RKyle> Because I don't know how to cancel the update install.
[20:08] <DasKreech> RKyle: how are you doing the install?
[20:08] <DasKreech> In the terminal?
[20:09] <RKyle> However if you can tell me how to stop it so that dpkg isn't locked so I can run them again would be very helpful as well.
[20:09] <RKyle> The GUI for updates.
[20:09] <DasKreech> ah I should think that closing the window should cancel it
[20:11] <RKyle> I would have to terminate the process because the X and menu<"Close" link does nothing.
[20:11] <RKyle> My applications list is currently empty so could you tell me the process name so I can kill it?
[20:14] <BluesKaj> RKyle,  using muon ?
[20:15] <RKyle> I think that may be what it was.
[20:15] <RKyle> I just clicked the icon in the corner and started the updates.
[20:17] <BluesKaj> it's buggy atm , there is a fix but you have to reboot , then open a terminal and do , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ...the fix for the muon package manager is in the repositories , so you have to use the terminal first before it's fixed
[20:20] <RKyle> Okay, thank you very much.
[20:20] <DasKreech> RKyle: muon-updater I suppose
[20:20] <RKyle> muon-updater is the package?
[20:21] <BluesKaj> RKyle, yes I believe so
[20:21] <RKyle> Alright, I will apt-get the package after the reboot.
[20:21] <RKyle> Thank you two very much.
[20:28] <BluesKaj> BRB ..dns server is buggy
[21:19] <BoldLine> Cononcial is dropping support?
[21:26] <BluesKaj> BoldLine,  not exactly , they had only one person being paid to help develop kubuntu , and they've given him a different set of assignments/projects to work , due to the problems they have with that dumb Unity desktop ...there are still alot of volunteers taking up the slack from what I've been told so far.
[22:09] <`korvin> uhh
[22:10] <`korvin> dolphin: could not start process, unable to create io-slafe: klauncher said: unknown protocol 'file'
[22:19] <DarthFrog> `korvin: Did you ever get an answer to your wine installation question from this morning?
[23:03] <BlouBlou> Hi, anyone knows how to make a "rule" or something to auto-maximize firefox at openning?
[23:06] <qbit> right-click on the title bar and select 'Advanced', then pick either Special Window or Special Application Settings
[23:07] <qbit> 2nd tab from left is 'Size and Position' - juggle and adjust until you get what you want
[23:11] <BlouBlou> qbit: Great! Thank you
[23:23] <eli0> hey ppl. is it woth to download kubuntu dvd instead of cd? what packages are included in dvd?
[23:24] <eli0> hello. is it worth to download kubuntu dvd instead of cd? what packages are included in dvd?
[23:27] <JontheEchidna> eli0: everything that the "kubuntu-full" metapackage depends on
[23:28] <JontheEchidna> http://i.imgur.com/pidyL.png
[23:29] <JontheEchidna> ^(for an easy way to see what that is)
[23:43] <alice> hi
[23:44] <alice> нужна помощь по установке Lotus-Notes