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wgrant | Mmmm, readable loggerhead | 00:10 |
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wgrant | A nice change. | 00:10 |
StevenK | I did wonder if a NDT would update loggerhead | 00:11 |
wgrant | Still needs to be degnomed a bit more | 00:11 |
wgrant | But much better | 00:11 |
poolie | is it just me or does the 'add an attachment' link on bugs now lose the text you already entered? | 00:41 |
lifeless | wallyworld_: yes | 00:44 |
wallyworld_ | lifeless: cool. cause i was thinking we would have a standard set of helpers to do the equivalent of out standard tal formatters for person etc | 00:45 |
lifeless | you'd probably use partials for that | 00:46 |
* wallyworld_ hasn't read the doco yet | 00:46 | |
lifeless | helpers should be used when you need host language logic | 00:46 |
lifeless | partials should be used when you want to reuse a template elsewhere | 00:46 |
wallyworld_ | ok | 00:46 |
lifeless | {{> person assignee} | 00:47 |
lifeless | for instance | 00:47 |
wallyworld_ | i am thinking about the +sharing view | 00:47 |
lifeless | bah, }} at the end, but you get the idea | 00:47 |
wallyworld_ | for now, i might just hard code the formatting | 00:47 |
lifeless | {{> <partialname> <contextpath>}} | 00:47 |
wallyworld_ | lifeless: is it on anyone's todo list to do the handlebars bundling? | 00:48 |
lifeless | so, handlebars is in yui3.5 | 00:49 |
lifeless | I imagine rick or deryck are likely to step up and do that | 00:49 |
StevenK | Blocked on combo loader | 00:49 |
wallyworld_ | ah, cool. but i guess we need something to use till then, or we can wait | 00:49 |
lifeless | indeed | 00:49 |
lifeless | you can use mustache now (and pystache || pybars on the server) | 00:49 |
wallyworld_ | it's just prototyping atm so will do | 00:50 |
lifeless | pystache has some wtf's apparently :) - pybars is in the download cache, if you wanted to play with it and tell me what you think | 00:51 |
wallyworld_ | lifeless: i was looking to do the rendering on the client | 00:51 |
lifeless | wallyworld_: oh sure | 00:51 |
wallyworld_ | lifeless: still, server side vs client side rendering is something that needs some thought etc | 00:52 |
wallyworld_ | one argument is that all rendering should be done client side | 00:52 |
wallyworld_ | after getting json data from the server | 00:52 |
StevenK | wgrant: Is qas's database back to FK goodness? | 00:52 |
wallyworld_ | s/from the server/using the api | 00:53 |
lifeless | wallyworld_: you have been following the thread on that right ? | 00:54 |
wgrant | StevenK: No | 00:55 |
lifeless | wallyworld_: there is a proposed standard for us | 00:55 |
wgrant | StevenK: Hopefully tonight. | 00:55 |
wallyworld_ | lifeless: i was about to re-read it, i think it was advocating getting as much stuff from the api as possible | 00:55 |
lifeless | if you use innerHTML with something containing a script section, does that script section run ? | 01:07 |
wallyworld_ | lifeless: don't think so, not in a consistent and portable way | 01:11 |
wallyworld_ | lifeless: if you need it i would claim the design is broken | 01:12 |
lifeless | wallyworld_: its the reverse, I'm assessing some security risks | 01:12 |
wallyworld_ | in our stuff? | 01:13 |
lifeless | it would terrify me if it worked ever | 01:13 |
wallyworld_ | it can be made to work | 01:13 |
wallyworld_ | for not in a portable way afaik | 01:13 |
lifeless | if it ever works, thats sufficiently terrifying | 01:13 |
wallyworld_ | lifeless: one example, possibly old, for ie, you can mark a script tag with DEFER and it will execute when set vua innerhtml | 01:14 |
wallyworld_ | not sure if that's still the case, ymmv etc | 01:15 |
wallyworld_ | what i'm saying is people have found ways to do it i think | 01:15 |
lifeless | sure | 01:17 |
lifeless | -> it means folk /wanting/ it to work can probably do so, but folk can't (and shouldn't rely on it just working | 01:17 |
wallyworld_ | yes | 01:17 |
wallyworld_ | and we should actively discourage/forbid it :-) | 01:17 |
wgrant | lifeless: How is that terrifying? | 01:18 |
lifeless | it also means that folk which want to us js to customise delivered html to another site, can't reliably do so (and those sites would be crazy to accept it) | 01:18 |
lifeless | wgrant: its off-site js all over again | 01:18 |
wgrant | ...., yes that's why you don't use innerHTML | 01:18 |
wgrant | <script> blocks not running is not a security feature. | 01:18 |
wgrant | It's just because of how things work | 01:18 |
wgrant | You can still use onclick/onhover etc to execute code | 01:18 |
wgrant | innerHTML is in no way safe to use with untrusted data. | 01:18 |
lifeless | I know | 01:19 |
lifeless | I wasn't thinking it was, I was seeking confirmation that it wasn't | 01:19 |
* wallyworld_ wishes we didn't use innerHTML so often in our code | 01:19 | |
lifeless | so onlick/onhover etc events *will* run ? With frame and frameset being gone in html5... | 01:19 |
wgrant | If you're using innerHTML in your code, you are doing it wrong. | 01:19 |
wgrant | lifeless: Yes | 01:19 |
wallyworld_ | wgrant: s/are/were | 01:19 |
wgrant | wallyworld_: Hm? | 01:20 |
lifeless | wallyworld_: tense mismatch there | 01:20 |
wallyworld_ | we don't do it anymore i don't think, what's there is mostly lazrjs stuff | 01:20 |
wgrant | wallyworld_: That code is still doing it wrong. | 01:20 |
wallyworld_ | yes, not disagreeing | 01:20 |
wgrant | lifeless: HTML5 still has iframe, doesn't it? | 01:20 |
wallyworld_ | just saying it's legacy and we don't do it for new code | 01:20 |
lifeless | ah indeed, missed that | 01:20 |
wgrant | And nobody real has used a frameset for a long time. | 01:21 |
* wgrant has never understood why HTML5 doesn't make XHTML mandatory :( | 01:22 | |
lifeless | because then they would have N+1 problems :P | 01:22 |
lifeless | anyhoo | 01:22 |
lifeless | iframe execution context is that of the originating server IIRC, so thats somewhat sane | 01:23 |
lifeless | bbiab | 01:23 |
wgrant | lifeless: Yes | 01:23 |
wgrant | No non-infrastructure code is permitted to use innerHTML. | 01:23 |
wgrant | And infrastructure code that uses it will be looked at with great scrutiny. | 01:23 |
wgrant | And anybody who uses innerHTML will be slapped, hard :) | 01:23 |
wgrant | lifeless: HTML5 still permits crap like unquoted attributes, implicit empty elements, etc. | 01:25 |
wgrant | That helps *noone*. | 01:25 |
StevenK | Bah. +36/-36 | 01:32 |
StevenK | I think I've fixed all the failures in bugs at least | 01:33 |
lifeless | wgrant: so, what does mustache use ;) | 01:38 |
lifeless | https://github.com/amoffat/pbs#readme | 01:49 |
lifeless | anyone here played more than trivially with juju ? | 01:52 |
StevenK | wgrant: Is there a bug for this IBug leaking? | 01:55 |
StevenK | wgrant: And can I have that API URL you used yesterday so I can see what .dev against this branch gives. | 01:56 |
wgrant | StevenK: Just look at the duplicate_of of a dupe of a private bug. | 01:56 |
wgrant | lifeless: Does mustache use anything? | 01:57 |
wgrant | lifeless: It generates HTML | 01:57 |
wgrant | It doesn't inject it AFAIK | 01:57 |
StevenK | wgrant: I was talking about the API URL you gave me to show me just how much IBug leaks. | 01:58 |
wgrant | 15:53:30 < wgrant> Grab https://bugs.qastaging.launchpad.net/api/devel/bugs/718213/duplicate_of?ws.accept=application/json as anonymous | 01:58 |
_mup_ | Bug #718213: Can't access due to content. <Internet Archive - Tech Support:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/718213 > | 01:58 |
StevenK | Right, so to test on .dev I need to make a private bug, and have a public one as a duplicate of it, and then massage that URL against the public bug? | 01:59 |
wgrant | Yep | 02:00 |
wgrant | Ensuring that you can't see the private bug. | 02:00 |
StevenK | Right | 02:00 |
StevenK | Waiting to see if I've fixed all the -m bugs failures first | 02:00 |
lifeless | wgrant: so, if someone *uses* mustache, how do they expose their html? | 02:01 |
wgrant | lifeless: Probably using their framework's methods that are similar to innerHTML. | 02:01 |
wgrant | Which will internally use innerHTML. | 02:02 |
wgrant | And are pretty much as unsafe. | 02:02 |
lifeless | tada | 02:02 |
wgrant | But this would normally be encapsulated in your infrastructure. | 02:02 |
wgrant | You're unlikely to be rendering templates directly in your day-to-day JS. | 02:02 |
wgrant | https://code.launchpad.net/~wgrant/launchpad/bulk-insert-errywhere/+merge/94490 | 02:05 |
lifeless | gary_poster: https://github.com/amoffat/pbs#readme might be interesting for setuplxc | 02:07 |
wgrant | lifeless: That looks like a really good way to be vulnerable. | 02:08 |
gary_poster | lifeless, looks fun. More magical than I'm interested in atm, but maybe my tastes will change. :-) | 02:12 |
lifeless | :) | 02:17 |
lifeless | elmo pointed me at it when looking at the setuplxc ticket | 02:17 |
gary_poster | heh | 02:18 |
huwshimi | wallyworld_: Hi, on lp.net the "affects me" selection dialogue looks like it might have been affected by your changes to add the descriptions to bug statuses... | 03:25 |
huwshimi | (I'm not sure if this is some kind of feature flag fallout) | 03:26 |
wallyworld_ | huwshimi: the empty span? | 03:26 |
huwshimi | wallyworld_: Yea, there's an extra empty row after the title | 03:27 |
wallyworld_ | could be a side effect of choicesource widget changes | 03:27 |
wallyworld_ | i'll file a bug etc | 03:28 |
huwshimi | wallyworld_: Thanks :) | 03:33 |
wallyworld_ | np, thanks for letting me know | 03:33 |
huwshimi | wallyworld_: I'm a little preoccupied otherwise I would have filed a bug myself :) | 03:35 |
wallyworld_ | np | 03:35 |
StevenK | Hmmm, it still returns 37 things | 03:51 |
StevenK | I was expecting less | 03:53 |
wgrant | StevenK: The API? It replaces forbidden things with the redacted tag | 03:55 |
wgrant | Rather than omitting them. | 03:55 |
StevenK | wgrant: Ah, so it's going to continue to return 37 things, but a lot more will be redacted? | 03:57 |
wgrant | Yes | 03:58 |
StevenK | Bleh, okay. | 03:59 |
* StevenK pushes up this branch | 03:59 | |
wallyworld | wgrant: what were your thoughts on bulk insert returning entire instantiated objects just to get the ids? | 04:00 |
wgrant | wallyworld: Fixed. | 04:01 |
wallyworld | ok, cool. thanks | 04:01 |
wgrant | wallyworld: I considered doing that initially, but decided it wasn't worth it. But you convinced me. | 04:01 |
wgrant | There's now get_objects and get_primary_keys args | 04:01 |
wgrant | mutually exclusive. | 04:01 |
wallyworld | np. i just saw the mp->approved and didn't realise you had changed to code | 04:01 |
wgrant | Heh | 04:02 |
StevenK | Is there a bug for IBug being leaky? | 04:03 |
wgrant | Don't think so. | 04:04 |
StevenK | wgrant: prod-revnos is AssertionErroring | 04:05 |
wgrant | I blame acamar | 04:05 |
StevenK | Haha | 04:05 |
StevenK | I thought you might | 04:05 |
* wgrant waits for openid... | 04:06 | |
wgrant | 'tis an awful, awful script. | 04:06 |
wgrant | ssh: connect to host acamar port 22: Connection refused | 04:07 |
wgrant | But it's meant to handle that. | 04:07 |
StevenK | Refused is a bit harsh | 04:08 |
wgrant | Ah | 04:08 |
wgrant | It's because it was crashing the script. | 04:08 |
wgrant | The deploymgr revno check thing doesn't log at the start of its run, only at the end. | 04:08 |
wgrant | So I split the log based on the final line, which isn't there | 04:09 |
wgrant | Should work next hour. | 04:09 |
StevenK | Bug 940044 | 04:10 |
_mup_ | Bug #940044: IBug is leaky as a rusty sieve <disclosure> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/940044 > | 04:11 |
StevenK | wallyworld: O hai, Mr OCR. | 04:11 |
wallyworld | yeeees? | 04:11 |
wallyworld | has review for me? | 04:12 |
StevenK | Lurch: https://code.launchpad.net/~stevenk/launchpad/less-bug-leakage/+merge/94495 | 04:12 |
StevenK | Pity wgrant won't get that joke | 04:12 |
wallyworld | you rang? | 04:12 |
StevenK | ;-) | 04:13 |
wgrant | Ha ha | 04:13 |
wallyworld | StevenK: lines 22,23 - why not use rSP there also? | 04:17 |
wallyworld | also 84,85 | 04:18 |
wgrant | rSP 4 eva | 04:18 |
StevenK | Because I didn't want to overuse it | 04:19 |
wallyworld | in tests, to get data needed to run the test, i think it's ok | 04:19 |
wgrant | Agreed, in those contexts it makes sense. | 04:19 |
wgrant | And it's much faster. | 04:19 |
wallyworld | and more consistent with 1. the changes in this mp and 2. other usages in factory | 04:20 |
wgrant | I'm pleasantly surprised there's so little fallout. | 04:22 |
StevenK | wallyworld: Okay, I've made that change locally | 04:22 |
wgrant | It won't be quite so easy when it comes to private projects in a couple of months :( | 04:22 |
StevenK | wgrant: I'm pleasantly surprised you're happy with my changes. :-P | 04:24 |
wgrant | I am usually happy with good changes :P | 04:24 |
wallyworld | StevenK: r=meeeeeeee | 04:24 |
StevenK | wallyworld: Pushing up the rSP change | 04:24 |
StevenK | I'm happy the branch ends up as +37/-42 | 04:25 |
lifeless | \o/ | 04:28 |
StevenK | loltpg | 04:29 |
lifeless | oh? | 04:30 |
wgrant | More likely to be Unity. | 04:30 |
StevenK | True, but I can hope. | 04:31 |
StevenK | I think I may have to switch to making fun of dodo users, rather than TPG users. | 04:31 |
wgrant | webservice tests are slow :( | 04:31 |
StevenK | wgrant: Can haz pointer to IBug traversal? | 04:32 |
wgrant | BugTargetTraversalMixin for one. | 04:32 |
StevenK | There's more than one? I am disappoint. | 04:33 |
wgrant | Yeah, that's +bug | 04:33 |
wgrant | /bugs is somewhere else, probably MaloneApplicationNavigation | 04:34 |
wgrant | Now, the question we must all ask ourselves eventually. | 04:48 |
wgrant | Will Unity crash before I open my third terminal this time... | 04:48 |
wgrant | Apparently not. | 04:49 |
StevenK | Haha | 04:49 |
* StevenK tries to figure out where BugTargetTraversalMixin is tested | 04:58 | |
StevenK | lib/lp/bugs/browser/tests/test_bugtask_navigation.py lies, that is testing MaloneApplicationNavigation | 04:58 |
wallyworld | StevenK: it was unity / compiz. been quite bad last couple of days :-( | 05:01 |
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* StevenK blinks | 05:29 | |
StevenK | AssertionError: Name "+bug/16" is not registered as a view or navigation step for "Product" on "bugs". | 05:29 |
wallyworld | wgrant: my new services branch which merged earlier today will conflict with your mp | 06:21 |
wallyworld | you will want to merge trunk if you haven't already done so | 06:22 |
wallyworld | and rename the InformationVisibility enum in the services test | 06:22 |
wgrant | wallyworld: Ah, I think I was one rev behind that. | 06:25 |
* wgrant fixes. | 06:25 | |
wallyworld | wgrant: why are there bulk insert changes for eg BinaryPackagePublishingHistory in the mp? | 06:25 |
wallyworld | not related to the core work in the mp | 06:26 |
wgrant | wallyworld: Ah, I guess I forgot to set the prereq. | 06:26 |
* wgrant fixes. | 06:26 | |
wallyworld | thanks :-) | 06:26 |
wgrant | https://code.launchpad.net/~wgrant/launchpad/multipolicy-3/+merge/94501 will hopefully be better | 06:27 |
* wallyworld looks | 06:29 | |
wallyworld | ah 600 lines smaller :-) | 06:29 |
wgrant | InformationVisibilityPolicy replaced. | 06:33 |
wallyworld | wgrant: the IAccessXXX interfaces and attributes are very light on doc strings | 06:35 |
wgrant | Indeed. You probably want some. | 06:35 |
wallyworld | yes please, not just for me necessarily | 06:35 |
wallyworld | since this is new for everyone outside purple, feel free to be verbose :-) | 06:36 |
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adeuring | good morning | 08:55 |
mrevell | Hi | 09:05 |
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bac | good morning abel. much going on today? | 12:29 |
czajkowski | for launchpad mailing lists, is there a way to see who is a moderator on a ml or is it just the team owner who can see it ? | 12:51 |
wgrant | czajkowski: The team admins are the moderators. | 12:52 |
czajkowski | wgrant: thats what I thought | 12:52 |
czajkowski | thanks | 12:52 |
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adeuring | morning bac, quiet day so far. | 13:08 |
bac | adeuring: cool. i think i'll tackle william's MP shortly | 13:09 |
bac | adeuring: heads up -- i'll be out for the next three fridays. | 13:09 |
adeuring | bac: ok, thanks for the warning ;) | 13:13 |
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deryck | Morning, all. | 14:01 |
czajkowski | deryck: hello how is the wife is she feeling better? | 14:02 |
deryck | czajkowski, yes, much better | 14:06 |
abentley | adeuring: Good morning. | 14:10 |
adeuring | morning abentley | 14:10 |
abentley | adeuring: How's it going? | 14:10 |
adeuring | abentley: fine, though I haven't yet done much on the card you created yesterday | 14:12 |
abentley | adeuring: Cool. | 14:12 |
deryck | adeuring, /extras/talk.google.com/orange-standup | 14:33 |
deryck | adeuring, sorry, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/extras/talk.google.com/orange-standup | 14:33 |
jtv | flacoste: allenap, rvba & I were discussing the naming scheme for Maas API versions. What would you prefer — "v1", or "1.0", or …? | 14:47 |
flacoste | jtv: blue | 14:47 |
flacoste | :-) | 14:47 |
jtv | frankban: Come on, help us a bit here, this is our copout plan. :-) | 14:47 |
jtv | Ahem. I meant flacoste. | 14:47 |
flacoste | you are not the first to make the association :-) | 14:48 |
flacoste | then use 23 | 14:48 |
flacoste | and power of 23 from then on | 14:48 |
jtv | flacoste: just thinking because of the long-term implications, you might have some grand standard scheme. | 14:48 |
jtv | Uniformity and all that. | 14:48 |
flacoste | 1.0 is fine | 14:48 |
jtv | Since we're a fun company of individuals. | 14:48 |
jtv | Thanks! | 14:48 |
flacoste | similar to what we do in lp | 14:48 |
rvba | /api/v1.0/ then? | 14:49 |
jtv | See, that wasn't so hard. Ask the Boss Engineering works. :) | 14:49 |
rvba | or /v1.0/api ? | 14:49 |
jtv | rvba: definitely /api/ first. | 14:49 |
jtv | Or we'll be inviting an unholy mess of paths. | 14:49 |
rvba | Not what twitter does fwiw. Nor http://musicsearch.ubuntu.com/. | 14:49 |
rvba | Ok, twitter uses api.twitter.com ;) | 14:50 |
jtv | That makes all the difference. We on the other hand have a bunch of path trees on one hostname. | 14:56 |
rvba | True, /api/1.0/ it is then. | 14:59 |
jtv | \o/ | 15:02 |
salgado | bac, adeuring, I've just added a small one for review :) | 15:06 |
adeuring | salgado: I'll look | 15:06 |
salgado | thanks adeuring! | 15:13 |
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abentley | adeuring: can we chat about the jobs stuff? | 15:32 |
adeuring | abentley: give me 10 minutes or so, I'm just finishing a review | 15:32 |
abentley | adeuring: cool. | 15:32 |
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adeuring | salgado-lunch: r=me, some minor nitpicks | 15:42 |
adeuring | abentley: mumble? | 15:43 |
abentley | adeuring: sure. | 15:43 |
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sinzui | bac: adeuring: Do either of you have time to review https://code.launchpad.net/~sinzui/launchpad/error-pages/+merge/94574 <-there are a lot of find and replace changes in it | 16:33 |
bac | sinzui: i can | 16:33 |
salgado | adeuring, thanks for the review; I've done the changes you suggested and it'd be great if you could land it for me | 16:45 |
adeuring | salgado: sure, I'll land it | 16:54 |
salgado | adeuring, oh, should I create a bug and link to that so that we can track its qa-untestability or can we just tag the commit as qa-untestable? | 17:01 |
adeuring | salgado: right, good idea | 17:01 |
salgado | oh, hmm. I can no longer assign bugs to arbitrary people? | 17:08 |
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abentley | deryck: I'm trying to follow https://dev.launchpad.net/EC2Test but the instructions for getting the access credentials don't look right. Should I be doing something with "Key Pairs"? | 19:31 |
deryck | let me look.... | 19:31 |
abentley | deryck: I think I found it. Got confused because there was no "Account" link. | 19:34 |
deryck | abentley, yeah, so I do have my credentials in ~/.ec2/aws_id | 19:34 |
deryck | abentley, but not sure if the how to about getting those is still right. it's been awhile since I did it. | 19:34 |
flacoste | bac: didn't you report a bug similar to bug 939910 in the past? | 19:46 |
_mup_ | Bug #939910: Need to export entry in version "beta" but it's only needed for "devel" <lazr.restful:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/939910 > | 19:46 |
bac | flacoste: yes, i believe i did | 19:47 |
bac | flacoste: but i don't see it | 19:48 |
flacoste | ah i know! | 19:49 |
flacoste | bug=760849 | 19:50 |
flacoste | from IProcessorFamily! | 19:50 |
flacoste | deryck: any news on bug 829074? | 19:53 |
_mup_ | Bug #829074: Show bugs that are not known to affect "official" upstream <bugs> <escalated> <qa-ok> <Launchpad itself:Fix Released by adeuring> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/829074 > | 19:53 |
deryck | gah. Forgot to ask again this morning. | 19:53 |
deryck | flacoste, I'll check with bryce myself now. | 19:53 |
deryck | flacoste, issue is fixed, stakeholders happy. :) | 20:13 |
flacoste | awesome! | 20:13 |
flacoste | deryck: you can drop the follow-up from your board :-) | 20:13 |
deryck | ha | 20:13 |
deryck | yeah | 20:13 |
deryck | lot good that did me. :) | 20:13 |
deryck | flacoste, what follow up, I don't see it. or you mean the bug abel was working on? | 20:23 |
flacoste | deryck: yes, the one where you had concerns with the additoinal maintenance costs | 20:23 |
deryck | flacoste, gotchas. got it. | 20:23 |
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