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GrueMasterTheMuso: I'm going through some old bugs and found lp:631362.  Any interest in this or should I close as "won't fix"?01:22
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TheMusoGrueMaster: Yeah won't fix is fine for for that bug, I see you have done it already, thanks.04:17
scienteswhere can i buy one of those new quad-core boards?04:52
twbscientes: tegra3?04:54
lilstevietransformer prime?04:57
scienteshttp://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/i-mx-6-quad-core-reference-board-flexes-processing-muscle-at-fre/04:57
scientesi.MX 604:57
lilstevieheh04:57
scientesthis crazy guy mentioned it04:57
scienteshttp://video.linux.com/videos/binary-blobs-attack04:58
scienteswhich is quite amusing04:58
scienteslilstevie, what do you mean by "heh"?05:00
lilsteviejust that I was suggesting the prime as a quad although it isn't05:00
scienteshaha05:01
lilstevie4plus105:01
lilstevie:p05:01
scientesalso, when will big.LITTLE be available?05:01
scientesiow, is it availble?05:02
lilstevieno idea05:02
scientesbut i am more interested in desktop-powered arm systems05:02
lilsteviekinda like the trimslice05:02
scientesI want something that works on a boat, so super-low-power-consumption05:02
lilstevieheh05:03
scientesa high-powered big.LITTLE could be pretty cool for this....05:03
lilstevietrimslice is 6W05:03
scientesmy buddy on this, feels it is pragmatic to go with x8605:03
twbMan that's only like half what atom uses05:03
scientesand i only have armv5 hardware at this point05:04
scientesso i cant really test stuff to proove arm over x8605:04
scientesBTW< how the hell do i get gdb debug symbols to work in qemu?05:04
scientesi tried qemu-arm-static with -g but i don't get the debug symbols i've installed05:05
scienteshow much does trimslice cost lilstevie ?05:08
lilstevie$31905:24
lilstevie+shipping05:24
lilstevieif you enrol in the developer program you can get it cheaper though05:24
scientesand with no display?05:36
steevit has dvi-d and hdmi out05:39
steevreminds me, i need to ship both mine back so they can fix my pmics... early adoption sucks sometimes05:39
lilsteviesteev, heh yeah I got mine later, and is fine05:43
steevlilstevie: nice, yeah mine won't power off and such on their own... i forgot about that once... left it running for 3 days when it should have been turned off... that was, fun05:44
lilsteviehaha05:44
lilsteviemine gets a little hot, but thats about the most that happens05:44
steevwell mine was sitting on a cardboard box05:45
lilsteviethat could start a fire05:45
lilstevie:p05:45
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Laplacehello there.. I am trying to compile a program with -pg flag on the arm-elf-compiler... but I can´t find the profilling starter file gcrt0.o07:10
twbLaplace: FYI, you seem to be using a legacy non-UTF-8 encoding.07:11
Laplacewhat?07:13
twb18:10 <Laplace> hello there.. I am trying to compile a program with -pg flag on the arm-elf-compiler... but I can\264t find the profilling starter file gcrt0.o07:14
Laplacecan not07:14
twbMy point is you're sending 0x01 0x08 instead of 0xE2 0x80 0x9907:15
Laplaceyear I dont know how to change that in xchat07:15
twbProbably by setting your locale to en_AU.UTF-8 or similar07:16
twbIt's not a big deal07:16
Laplacebut can you help me with the gprof compiling07:16
twbUnless you're in #nihongo or something07:16
twbLaplace: nope, sorry07:16
ayakahow to use fastboot to boot a linux kernel with initrd and root in /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 (sd card second partation)?08:02
lilstevieayaka, what device08:03
ayakalilstevie, htc evo 3d x515m, a mobile08:08
ayakalilstevie: any idea?08:18
lilstevieayaka, ./fastboot boot zimage initrd -c $DEFAULT_CMDLINE root=/dev/mmcblk1p208:22
ayakalilstevie: thank you I will try later, thank you08:30
ayakalilstevie: but where shall I select vmlinux and initrd file?08:30
ayakalilstevie: it default select the link in the root file?08:31
lilstevieif you need to ask, this is probably a bit beyond you08:31
ayakalilstevie: ok, I will try tommorrow, thank you again08:32
infinityjanimo`, slangasek: I'm unconvinced that this apr upload was a good idea. :P09:03
infinityjanimo`: Did you test build it on natty? (that's what the buildds run)09:03
slangasekinfinity: hey, I wasn't the one who accepted it09:03
infinityslangasek: Neither was I.  Perhaps you should have rejected it when you questioned it, though. ;)09:05
slangasekheh09:05
infinityI still think we need a saner policy of "if in doubt, reject; we can always rescue it later" for archive admins.09:06
infinityBut, I guess that generates scary mails that people don't like.09:07
janimo`infinity, I only tested it on my host - I thought th only way to see if it works is to try on the hosts, now they have a new kernel09:51
janimo`infinity, I think last time it was the kernel that held it up not eglibc09:51
infinityjanimo`: They don't have new kernels, though...09:51
infinityjanimo`: They've been natty since we installed them.09:51
infinityjanimo`: I mean, they've had some SRUs, but nothing that would have magically changed threading.09:51
janimo`infinity, I think newer than 2.6.31 or what the babbages had09:51
infinityjanimo`: We've tried it on Pandas before. ;)09:52
infinityjanimo`: (In fact, armhf was bootstrapped almost entirely on Pandas...)09:52
janimo`oh well. The worst that can happen is we revert the change, only arm is affected:)09:52
infinityjanimo`: So, yeah.  I suspect that build is probably hung, and we'll have to revert.09:52
janimo`infinity, I did not know what the timing of armhf bringup was and whethee the debian workaround was already in place to avoid such ftbfs09:52
infinity(sure looks hung)09:53
janimo`infinity, ah ok. I thought only the babbages had otoo ld versions, sigh09:53
infinityThe Debian workaround was specifically for the armhf bootstrap. ;)09:53
janimo`but on Debian machines no?09:53
infinityNo, note the uploader.09:53
janimo`I could not get info on what kernel harris ran09:53
infinitydoko did it in Debian and synced to Ubuntu, but it was for both of us.09:54
infinityAnyhow, no harm done.  Just a minor annoyance.09:54
janimo`ok, my bad then, we can wait another year or so to get this enabled. So the fix exists just not in natty then?09:54
infinityWell, if you say it works for you locally, I guess it's fixed?09:54
ogra_just sneak the binary into the archive :)09:55
infinityogra_: *glare*09:55
ogra_*g*09:55
janimo`infinity, well it worked for me locally when I did the last try-revert dance a few months ago (only ubuntu changelog has the details and LP I guess)09:56
janimo`I just had the impression the babbage kernels (and only those) were too old so they ftbfs on buildd only09:56
janimo`just like there's a squashfs-tools workaround to build with -marm which is also only to have it work on the live-builder machines09:57
infinityWell, there's a theory that we might have some Pandas upgraded to Precise before release.  If I can make that happen, we can revisit some of these workaround.s.09:57
janimo`that would be good09:57
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janimo`infinity, btw I looked at uploaders in apr before adding the change and it was noone I know (Hector Oron) . Had it been you or doko I might have figured it out it is still an issue for us and let it be10:20
infinityjanimo`: Oh, maybe doko just pushed the change and synced, or something.  I don't recall.10:22
infinityjanimo`: Anyhow, oh well. :P10:22
infinityjanimo`: I'm curious that, in the bug, you claim it worked on natty, though?10:22
infinityjanimo`: It obviously doesn't now.10:22
janimo`infinity, no, it did not work in natty, I only tested in oneiric last time10:23
janimo`I may have just had the wrong impression natty was new enough10:23
janimo`as at one point the builders had lucid or maverick which was clearly too old10:24
janimo`I think only the kernel matters since glibc fixes are part of the build chroot10:24
infinityYeahp.10:27
infinitySo, if/when the buildds go to 3.2, we can revisit.10:27
janimo`infinity, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apr/+bug/604753 so at least some tried on natty and it worked a while ago10:31
ubot2`Launchpad bug 604753 in linaro-toolchain-misc "[eglibc] process shared mutex's fail on armel v7 (thumb)" [High,Fix released]10:31
rOxxhello, i want to build a new kernel for my pandaboard es. can someone help my ? i got errors on build with the official repo of oneiric10:46
rOxxat build i get this error: II: Checking ABI for omap4...     Reading symbols/modules to ignore...read 0 symbols/modules.     Reading new symbols (1207)...read 8761 symbols.     Reading old symbols (1207)...read 8760 symbols. II: Checking for missing symbols in new ABI...     MISS : omap_cfg_reg     found 1 missing symbols EE: Symbols gone missing (what did you do!?!) II: Checking for new symbols in new ABI...     NEW : scsi_verify_10:47
ayaka./fastboot boot zimage initrd -c $DEFAULT_CMDLINE root=/dev/block/mmcblk1p2, but my kernel is CONFIG_KERNEL_GZIP=y, does it works?10:54
infinityrOxx: That means you broke ABI with your changes, but didn't bump the ABI version in the package.10:57
rOxxinfinity: what can i do to fix it ?10:58
rOxxi have read to add this skipabi=true skipmodule=true at  dpkg-buildpackage command-line. but i dont know how to do this11:00
rOxxi build with "dpkg-buildpackage -B -uc -us"11:00
infinityrOxx: "skipabi=true skipmodule=true dpkg-buildpackage -B -uc -us" then.11:26
rOxxok thx11:34
ogra_bah, after all my non working BT headset is all janis fault !11:45
ogra_janimo`, for BT headsets to work we apparently need CONFIG_USB_EHCI_TT_NEWSCHED set in the kernel config11:45
ogra_could you enable that in the next upload please11:45
ogra_(that is ... if you use an USB BT dongle with a headset the driver freaks out about lacking interrupts if thats not set)11:46
ogra_(on ac100 indeed)11:47
janimo`ogra_, sure11:50
janimo`ogra_, did it work before? Is this a new config option?11:51
ogra_[ 1381.300007] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio11:51
ogra_[ 1382.117188] cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -28: not enough bandwidth11:51
ogra_bahm not even with the usb soundblaster i can make input work11:51
ogra_janimo`, no, old option, but i didnt bother to try getting sound input to work since sound was shaky all the time11:52
ogra_so it didnt actually show up as a prob11:52
diwicogra_, is "2.6.36.4 armv7l" a normal kernel to use on ubuntu 12.04 ?11:53
janimo`ah ok11:53
ogra_diwic, not really, what platform ?11:53
diwicogra_, bug 93209611:53
ubot2`Launchpad bug 932096 in pulseaudio "[armel] Pulseaudio crashes other program using sound: Assertion 'pthread_mutex_unlock(&m->mutex) == 0'" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93209611:53
diwicogra_, maybe you can tell me what platform this is?11:54
ogra_diwic, oh, transformer....11:55
ogra_talk to the HWE/OEM guys, thats special11:55
diwicogra_, aha, the HWE guys...hey wait, that's me...11:55
ogra_diwic, see my ping in the other chan11:56
janimo`ppisati, do you know what is the best way to get some Ubuntu SAUCE for the ac100 kernel tree? It is 3.0.19 based11:57
janimo`ppisati, are there some Ubuntu trees which make the best cherry-pick targets?11:57
ogra_janimo`, would you be able to quickly cross build a test kernel with that option enabled ? i would like to see if it fixes it, but if i set up a tree that takes me longer than you11:59
janimo`ogra_, I can try, sure12:00
ogra_thanks !12:00
* janimo` really needs to document how to build your own ac100 tree. it is easy in fact12:00
ogra_i know how to do it, its just that i dont even have a source package or the tree here12:00
ogra_(nor do i have an x86 machine running in my house atm)12:00
janimo`ogra_, armell or armhf?12:00
ogra_el please12:01
janimo`ogra_, I know you do, but for the general ac100 user who may not want to wait for 'official' debs12:01
ogra_yep12:01
infinityjanimo`: Rebasing it against the oneiric tree (ti-omap4) would probably be the sanest.12:01
infinityjanimo`: Also, when you rev out of 3.0.x, can you change the versioning scheme to use the same one we do for other distro kernels? (ie: 3.2.0, regardless of upstream patchlevel).12:02
janimo`infinity, you mean rebase the whole current packaging (originally linaro template) over the ti-omap4 tree? Hmm, may be worth it in the long run12:03
janimo`and version number 3.0-xxx , so drop the .19 ?12:03
infinityjanimo`: Well, probably not worth it for the 3.0 packages, but when you switch to 3.2, definitely worth it.12:04
janimo`or 3.0.012:04
infinityjanimo`: 3.0.012:04
janimo`ok12:04
infinityjanimo`: But since you can't go back in time in versions...12:04
infinityjanimo`: That will have to wait until you're on 3.2.x :)12:04
janimo`indeed12:04
janimo`so what is the 3rd digit there if not upstreams version from the Makefile?12:04
janimo`or is this only a 3.0 peculiarity?12:04
infinityWell.12:05
infinitySee.12:05
infinity3.0.19 is 2.6.41.1912:05
infinityWe never advertised patchlevel.12:05
infinityAnd we still don't.12:05
infinityThe reason we keep it three numbers, though, is because of all the tools that explode if kvers=AA.BB with no .CC12:06
ppisatijanimo`: Oneiric is the closest one12:06
janimo`ppisati, ok12:06
janimo`ok, did not know we never exposed patchlevel12:06
infinity(Or is it 2.6.40.19.. Whatever, you get the idea)12:07
infinityjanimo`: Yeah, well, if you check any pre-3.0 system, our kernels all show 2.6.XX, with no fourth level.12:07
infinityjanimo`: But they all, of course, are rebased agaisnt the latest upstream PL.12:07
janimo`ogra_, http://startx.ro/~jani/linux-image-3.0.19-1-ac100_3.0.19-1.2_armel.deb see if this works12:46
* ogra_ hugs janimo` 12:46
janimo`I'd wait till you get sound out of the headset :)12:46
ogra_heh12:47
diwicogra_, I can confirm the BT headset profile switching problem here12:52
diwicogra_, filing bug for it now12:52
diwicogra_, filed bug 94028212:55
ubot2`Launchpad bug 940282 in gnome-control-center "Cannot switch profile on Bluetooth headset" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94028212:55
ogra_janimo`, yay, thanks so much ... lets make sure that goes into the next upload, i'm for the first time able to use mumble on my ac100 !13:09
janimo`ogra_, \o/13:09
janimo`ok, that will go in the next upload then13:10
janimo`I hope others will answer on the list, as there may be other config options to enable13:10
janimo`syncing with ubuntu sauce would be the correctest thing to do13:10
ogra_sadly, the soundblaster i have gives me choppy output in duplex mode13:10
ogra_so i have the earphone connected to the internal soundcard and the mic on the SB USb card ... but that works impressingly well13:11
janimo`maybe one of the 30+ ac100 alsa controls  has the solution for that too13:11
ogra_it has13:11
ogra_but that gets me feedbacks of all kinds and delays in my voice etc13:11
ogra_i guess the sound driver still needs to mature a bit for full duplex13:12
janimo`infinity, no leads on the qtwebkit-source mem-exhaustion issue?13:23
ogra_i think i saw a discussion on debian-arm ML about that13:24
ogra_iirc zumbi was involved in that13:24
infinityNo, the Debian issue was a GCC ICE, I believe.13:25
infinityBut I'm going to try to make time to look at it with more vigor.13:25
* ogra_ dances around mumble .... ooh its so awesome i can finally use it on arm13:25
infinityHeh.13:26
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Davieyogra_: just in time for it to be deprecated \o/13:27
ogra_Daviey, well, g* isnt any option on arm13:27
ogra_G+13:27
ogra_and i dont run any non arm machines anymore around here13:28
ogra_why would it be obsolete ? is IS tearing the server down ?13:28
Davieyogra_: no idea, but i know the frequency of use has shrunk for me.13:28
ogra_ah13:29
* infinity wishes people would remember that Canonical runs a rather nice asterisk VoIP setup.13:29
ogra_yeah, i wouldnmt mind to use that either13:29
ogra_my new manager uses mumble a lot though :)13:29
infinityBut hey, reinventing wheels with things that require binary blob browser plugins, yay!13:29
rsalvetimumble is still works fine for me :-)13:30
rsalvetiand I also prefer mumble13:30
rsalvetijust easier13:30
ogra_if it works :P13:31
ogra_but i agree13:31
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zumbiogra_ / infinity : re qtwebkit/armhf, in debian we are waiting for doko to apply compiler patch, there an ICE (#641849). I think markos remind him not so long ago.15:23
ogra_yeah, so infinity was right then15:23
ogra_i dont think our issue was an ICE15:24
ogra_GrueMaster, argh ! ... forgot to mention your name in the changelog for the alsa-lib patch (as well as the bug number) sorry, sorry, sorry ! ... but the fix is uploaded now15:25
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GrueMasterok15:53
ayaka./fastboot boot zimage initrd -c $DEFAULT_CMDLINE root=/dev/block/mmcblk1p2, zimage and initrd means file name of vmlinux and initrd in /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 or just type those15:54
ayaka15:54
ogra_GrueMaster, bah, got rejected anyway, so i can add your name, do you rememebr the bug # from the top of your head ?16:00
GrueMasterIt was in the email.  Let me look.16:01
ogra_oh, dont then16:01
* ogra_ checks the mail16:01
ogra_no, it only has the alsa-utils bug16:02
ogra_bug 88092916:02
ubot2`Launchpad bug 880929 in alsa-utils "alsa ucm udev rules not working on SDP4430" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88092916:02
GrueMasteryea, I'm looking through LP now.16:02
ogra_havent gotten to that part yet16:02
GrueMasterGah, there are so many bugs to choose from.16:04
ogra_haha16:04
ogra_i havent seen it on the ubuntu-arm list ... i looked there due to my mailer being temprarily broken wrt bugs16:04
GrueMasterYea, I haven't had time to go through and triage in the last few weeks.16:05
ogra_well, will work without bug # i guess16:05
dokozumbi, no, I won't. please get it upstream first16:05
GrueMasterThe odd thing is that I had it working without these ucm files, but there was an entire week between test kernel+tweaks to having an actual image with fixes.  And the new image had new versions of everything.16:07
GrueMasterAnd I haven't been able to spot any diffs in the alsa git trees that would have affected this.16:08
GrueMaster(we went from 1.0.24 to 1.0.25).16:08
ogra_well, the fix is committed to the ubuntu alsa-lib tree already, i will just re-upload with a fixed patch file (was missing two lines in the header) ...16:09
ogra_and then care for alsa-utils16:09
ogra_if there is no bug thats fine, i'll just remove that header line from the patch file16:09
GrueMasterOk.  That's the new ucm configs, right?16:09
ogra_right16:10
* GrueMaster is still recovering from sleep, one cup of coffee at a time.16:10
ogra_take your time :)16:12
GrueMasterWTF?!?  Chewing through email, I came across this bug:  lp:93209616:13
GrueMastercome on bug bot.  bug 93209616:13
ubot2`Launchpad bug 932096 in pulseaudio "[armel] Pulseaudio crashes other program using sound: Assertion 'pthread_mutex_unlock(&m->mutex) == 0'" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93209616:13
GrueMasterthank you.16:13
ogra_yeah, diwic talked about it today16:13
ogra_transformer ...16:14
ogra_likely a kernel issue16:14
GrueMasterIt says Distro: 12.04  Kernel: 2.6.3616:14
ogra_right16:14
GrueMasterWhat platform?16:14
ogra_android kernel16:14
zumbidoko: I am not sure on the details, I thought it was already upstream, we'll check and let you know16:14
ogra_transformer ...16:14
GrueMasterah16:14
ogra_leave it to the HWE guys :)16:15
ogra_just ignore16:15
GrueMasterok.  Added to .ignore16:16
ogra_heh16:16
GrueMasterI've also been churning through that archaeological list of bugs you posted a while back.  Closed a few, marked some as won't fix (mainly old targets).  fixed a few.16:18
ogra_yeah, i just looked at it again, there is still a ton of stuff we could just close16:19
zumbidoko: < markos> it's fixed upstream iin FSF and also in Linaro/Ubuntu gcc (PR50946)16:19
ogra_i'll go through it next week16:19
ogra_and shoot the obvious ones16:19
GrueMasterSpeaking of which, ppisati, can you pull in the patch from bug 707003 to the next maverick SRU so we can close this?  Or should I mark it as "Won't fix".  Looks like low hanging fruit.16:20
ubot2`Launchpad bug 707003 in linux-ti-omap4 "Kernel panic when trying to offline CPU1" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70700316:20
GrueMasterSometimes I wish bug 820034 would get fixed, but it is not on our plate.16:21
ubot2`Launchpad bug 820034 in ubuntu-font-family-sources "Expansion: Miscellaneous Symbols and Pictographs U+1F4A9" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82003416:21
ogra_poke sladen about it :)16:22
GrueMasterDid you see the text of the bug? (not just the title).16:23
ogra_nope, following the release meeting while we chat here :)16:23
GrueMasterah, forgot it was that time.  ok.16:24
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ppisatibug 92786016:38
ubot2`Launchpad bug 927860 in linux-ti-omap4 "Missing musb-hdrc module required by Pandaboard OTG port" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92786016:38
ppisatiany reason i can't make all of them =m?16:38
ppisatilast comment says "Rebuilding the kernel with module built-in..."16:39
GrueMasterNone that I know of.  If you want to spit me a test kernel, I can run it and check.16:39
GrueMasterppisati: Did you see my earlier ping?16:41
ppisatiGrueMaster: nope16:52
GrueMasterBug 707003.16:52
ubot2`Launchpad bug 707003 in linux-ti-omap4 "Kernel panic when trying to offline CPU1" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70700316:52
ppisatiah ok16:52
ppisatigot it16:53
GrueMasterI was just curious if you wanted to add it to the next SRU cadence or if we should mark it as "Won't fix".16:53
GrueMasterI'm cleaning up old bugs.16:54
ppisatiGrueMaster: i updated lp927860 with a test kernel17:04
GrueMasterFetching it now, thanks.17:04
GrueMasterUh.  I'll have to reimage, unless you can whip up an armhf kernel fairly quickly.  armel is slowly drifting away and all my systems are armhf.17:10
sveinseHi. I'm looking for gdb-arm-linux-gnueabi debs for i386 and amd64, Natty, which works against armel Natty gdbserver (Ubuntu/Linaro 7.2-1ubuntu11). I remember finding this on a Linaro PPA sometime, but google turns up empty. Anyone knows where I could find them?17:28
sveinsehrw perhaps?17:28
GrueMasterYou might ask in #linaro.  This is something they maintain I believe.17:35
GrueMasterppisati: I think something got missed in that kernel re: bug 927860.17:44
ubot2`Launchpad bug 927860 in linux-ti-omap4 "Missing musb-hdrc module required by Pandaboard OTG port" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92786017:44
GrueMaster# CONFIG_USB_GADGET_MUSB_HDRC is not set17:45
GrueMastercat /proc/version_signature17:45
GrueMasterUbuntu 3.2.0-1406.9~lp927860-omap4 3.2.617:45
GrueMasterOh, it is listed twice in the config.  Odd.17:53
GrueMasterStill doesn't work.  It might need to be built in, or it needs some other bits in the kernel.17:58
ppisatiGrueMaster: i'll try again18:07
GrueMasterOk.  I'll wait to hear back.18:07
pbuckleyas of yesterday my board has stopped crashing every 8ish hours..18:08
pbuckley 10:08:25 up 22:09,  5 users,  load average: 0.26, 0.47, 0.4418:08
pbuckleyalmost a full 24 hours18:08
pbuckleywoo!18:08
GrueMasterCool.  (of course I am not seeing this here, but...)18:09
GrueMasterThis is your ES, right?18:09
pbuckleyyeh my desktop es.. my dev board is still crashing every couple hours18:09
pbuckleybut thats probably more my fault then anything18:09
GrueMasterI can live with that.  :P18:10
pbuckleyare there any known bugs around ssh-agent not correctly caching passwords?19:52
pbuckley(12.04)19:52
pbuckleypbuckley@panda:~$ ps -ef | grep agent19:53
pbuckleypbuckley  1577  1539  0 Feb23 ?        00:00:04 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d19:53
pbuckleyappears to be running but im not getting the gui dialog for a password like i used to19:53
pbuckleyalso ii  puppet         2.7.10-1ubuntu Centralized configuration management - agent21:01
pbuckleyneeds to get updated to 2.7.1121:01
pbuckley2.7.10 has some nasty security cve21:01
infinityWe know.21:02
pbuckleyk21:02
infinity2.7.10 is a regression nightmare in general21:02
infinityBut, hey, welcome to an unreleased distro. ;)21:02
pbuckleyheh21:02
pbuckleyits where all the fun happens21:02
pbuckleyand there is no way im going back from 12.04 even in its current state its night and day from 11.1021:03
GrueMasterSo many levels of confusion surrounding bug 747229.  Peeling this onion is leaving me in tears.21:04
ubot2`Launchpad bug 747229 in ubiquity "weird color change during oem-config debconf package removal step in serial installs" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74722921:04
GrueMasterShell wrappers for python wrappers for perl wrappers for...21:06
pbuckley:(21:11
pbuckleyruby wrappers?21:11
GrueMasterGo away, you.  :P21:12
pbuckleyhehe21:12
GrueMasterOk, so it isn't whiptail that is causing the weird screen colors.  Next to check is debconf package.21:23
* GrueMaster switches to perl mode.21:23
pbuckleyalmost time to switch to beer mode21:23

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