[05:19] stgraber: do you not have cia turned on for your bzr branch? [05:19] (of ubiquity that is) [05:20] superm1: yep, I do for ubiquity, I tend to forget for the other ones as I don't usually keep them on my laptop [05:20] oh i just didn't see any announces for today's ubiquity upload in this channel [05:21] that was ev, so maybe he doesn't have CIA configured [05:21] oh i see, yeah maybe [12:41] cjwatson: need to pick your brain for a moment. Roughly speaking, how hard would it get base-installer to properly install a kernel from precise-proposed/updates? As far as I understand it, d-i wants to always install the release kernel, then update on the fly [12:42] NCommander: He's on leave. [12:42] * NCommander picks infinity's brain instead [12:42] And this is a solved problem. [12:42] We build d-i against backport kernels from updates. [12:43] Right, I understand this [12:43] but my understanding is what happens is the system is booted from the d-i build in updates [12:43] Install base system happens, kernel from precise-release is added. d-i then populates /etc/apt/sources.lists, and the kernel gets dist-upgraded on the fly [12:44] at least as late as oneiric, base-installer would explode if it couldn't grab a kernel deb from where it debootstrapped from [12:44] That would never work for the lts backport kernels, since they aren't direct version upgrades from released packages. [12:45] So, while I haven't looked at the code, I don't see how it could work that way. [22:28] bdmurray: looking at bug 898278 [22:28] Launchpad bug 898278 in ubiquity "Upgrade menu option should not appear for old releases" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898278 [22:29] bdmurray: did you ever reproduce it on Precise? [22:29] as in, with a Precise system and using an Oneiric media? [22:29] I'm still digging through the code at the moment but at least in my VM, it doesn't let me "upgrade", it only lets me reinstall [22:31] stgraber: looking [22:31] I was planning on using a 11.10 media with a 12.04 install to reproduce and then fix ubiquity, but it'd be nice to actually get the bug for that ;) [22:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/891711/comments/7 [22:32] Launchpad bug 891711 in ubiquity "Fails to copy directory over symlink (e.g. /var/lock when downgrading from 11.10 to 11.04)" [High,Confirmed] [22:32] It seems like I did at one point [22:32] or I'll just add a lot of debugging to ubiquity's code and try to figure out where the bug might be and why it doesn't affect me (there are a lot of FIXME's in there) [22:33] yeah, I guess I'll have another look through the history for the commit that might have fixed it [22:34] because there isn't much point in testing the 11.04 installer on a 11.10 system as I couldn't really fix it anyway and ubiquity changed quite a bit since then [22:40] stgraber: in ubi-partman it says [22:40] # TODO: Verify that the version is in fact older. [22:41] bdmurray: yeah, and for some reason I never actually hit that part of the code when trying 11.10 with a 12.04 system