[00:31] <Bealhorm> Hello
[00:32] <Bealhorm> My question is; Huawei is a small player, so I recon in the beginning it won't be supported, but will it eventually?
[05:37] <tallnerd1985> Sup everyone
[06:22] <e-frame> Hi, I' an ubuntu and android user. how can i try ubuntu on android phone?
[06:22] <e-frame> s/I' an/I'm
[07:58] <mainerror> e-frame: Currently you can't.
[08:13] <e-frame> mainerror: so is it now only for developers and manufacturer?
[08:15] <e-frame> i watched video on youtube, and it looks great. Like when I use my old archos on tv with usb keyboard plugged in.
[08:16] <mainerror> It is definitely great. I can't wait to get to test it myself.
[09:35] <e-frame> yeah, mee too. first time I use that setup on archos, i was thinking about having ubuntu on my android phone.
[12:19] <ikonia> not quite the hive of buzz and excitement I was expecting
[15:30] <tarelerulz> To do the whole Ubuntu for Android , what software do you need?
[16:08] <ikonia> android...and the ubuntu application
[16:28] <mainerror> I'm not sure if that will be an application at all.
[16:30] <Hiob10hiob> is this the right channel for ubuntu on android?
[16:31] <Myrtti> it's the best we know of for it
[16:32] <Hiob10hiob> any new news?
[16:47] <reesk92> haya everyone
[16:48] <Hiob10hiob> has somebody ubuntu on a tablet?
[16:48] <reesk92> i will in a few moments
[16:48] <reesk92> its on  my list o things i wanna do
[16:49] <HacDan> I have an ubuntu rootstock imaging being pushed over, but it's not what I'm looking to do ultimately
[16:50] <Hiob10hiob> on which tablet?
[16:50] <reesk92> cnm touchpad 2
[16:50] <CyberDawg> ipad1 here
[16:51] <reesk92> thats not a androiid tablet
[16:51] <HacDan> you won't be running ubuntu on an ipad any time soon
[16:51] <CyberDawg> I know
[16:51] <reesk92> well who knows
[16:52] <reesk92> jailbreaking is getting easier
[16:52] <CyberDawg> Im sure it will be done but whats the point
[16:52] <reesk92> yeah
[16:53] <CyberDawg> the ipad 1 is almost a door stop
[16:53] <Hiob10hiob> reesk92: low ram and cpu :/
[16:53] <reesk92> please dont upset me
[16:53] <reesk92> i love my touchpad 2
[16:54] <CyberDawg> my son in law has the samsung galaxy
[16:54] <CyberDawg> he loves it
[16:54] <Myrtti> I've got ExoPC running 11.10, planning to upgrade it to 12.04 this weekend
[16:54] <reesk92> so ubuntu wont work on th touchpad 2
[16:55] <Hiob10hiob> reesk: y?
[16:55] <reesk92> huh
[16:55] <Hiob10hiob> Myritti: how long is the batterie life?
[16:55] <reesk92> im confused
[16:55] <reesk92> what has low ram and cpu
[16:56] <reesk92> mine has
[16:56] <reesk92> System Memory: DDR2 256MB
[16:56] <Hiob10hiob> reesk92: your tablet?
[16:56] <reesk92> yeah
[16:56] <reesk92> so does that mean no ubuntu
[16:56] <reesk92> ARM11 600MHz
[16:56] <Hiob10hiob> i would say no unity
[16:56] <reesk92> meh
[16:56] <Myrtti> Hiob10hiob: I've not really looked into it too much
[16:56] <reesk92> not a big deal
[16:57] <reesk92> will it till run android stuff
[16:57] <HacDan> what is a touchpad 2?
[16:58] <Hiob10hiob> does anybody know how ubuntu on android will work?
[16:58] <reesk92> its a android tablet
[16:58] <Hiob10hiob> it is like a chrooted ubuntu?
[16:58] <HacDan> never heard of it
[16:58] <HacDan> Hiob10hiob: yes it's a chroot
[16:58] <reesk92> where can we get it
[16:59] <HacDan> it's not released yet.
[16:59] <HacDan> and I don't think it will be released to the public
[16:59] <HacDan> they're only talking to manufactureres at the moment
[16:59] <reesk92> oh come on
[16:59] <HacDan> it requires kernel integration
[16:59] <reesk92> they will fuck it up
[16:59] <reesk92> look what they did to android
[16:59] <Myrtti> mind the language
[16:59] <reesk92> they made so many freaking changes to it google can no longer make updates
[17:00] <HacDan> Myrtti: there are language restrictions in here?
[17:00] <reesk92> so now its left to the manufactures to update android
[17:00] <reesk92> and they have little to know interest
[17:00] <Myrtti> HacDan: I'd really prefer if we could keep the discussion civilised and professional
[17:00] <reesk92> theyd rather sell a new phone with the updates on it
[17:00] <HacDan> I'm fine with that, only curious if there are.
[17:01] <reesk92> phone companies do horrible things to opensource stuf
[17:01] <Hiob10hiob> why do you think they wont upload the source?
[17:01] <reesk92> i hope buntu does
[17:01] <reesk92> but as for hardware namufctures they wont release anything
[17:02] <HacDan> Hiob10hiob: beacuse that's the response I got from them in an email.
[17:03] <Hiob10hiob> if they upload the source to xda , in two weeks it would run on any newer device
[17:03] <reesk92>  im not a happy bunny about any of this
[17:05] <Hiob10hiob> i am a bit frighten Canonical dont stay opensource
[17:06] <reesk92> i can see this going like andoird did
[17:07] <reesk92> its opensource untill manufactures start making chnges and locking stuff down
[17:07] <reesk92> and now you have 2 options to upgrade
[17:07] <reesk92> hope some genius reengineered a update for your device
[17:07] <reesk92> or buy the net epensive phone
[17:07] <Hiob10hiob> but android is still open, you just have to root it
[17:07] <reesk92> its not open if you hav to root it
[17:08] <Hiob10hiob> you dont have to, but you can
[17:08] <reesk92> thats like saying my house is open if you pick the lock
[17:08] <reesk92> i jut dont like it
[17:09] <reesk92> grrrr
[17:09] <reesk92> im going to go install ubuntu 11 and hope to god its purdy enough to calm me down
[17:10] <MrChrisDruif> reesk92; .04 or .10 ?
[17:11] <reesk92> .10
[17:12] <Hiob10hiob> on your tablet?
[17:12] <reesk92> no laptop
[17:12] <reesk92> dont get me started on why it isnt going n my tablet
[17:12] <Hiob10hiob> which OS are you running now?
[17:13] <reesk92> win 7
[17:13] <Hiob10hiob> bääää
[17:13] <reesk92> 64 bit
[17:13] <reesk92> i kinda like win 7
[17:13] <reesk92> but theres not alot that im running on there that has to be win 7
[17:14] <reesk92> maybe minecraft and mclauncher but there java
[17:17] <reesk92> so there just gonna be a 20 minite job of writing a launch file
[21:02] <micgrob> Hello
[21:02] <Shipper_> hey
[21:03] <micgrob> Have you tested ubuntu on android? If so, whats your opinion
[21:05] <Shipper_> hehe, i cant test it, i don't got an smartphone but i'am interested in it
[21:05] <micgrob> Does anyone have the download?
[21:05] <HacDan> micgrob: it's not released yet
[21:06] <HacDan> so, no one has publicly tested it.
[21:06] <micgrob> Grr
[21:06] <Shipper_> ^^
[21:06] <HacDan> word on the street is it won't be open-sourced either, but that's only what canonical told me
[21:08] <mgj> sounds very illegal to have it be closed source
[21:08] <HacDan> how so?
[21:08] <mgj> unless, ofcourse, its an entire new OS that has nothing to do with GNU/Linux
[21:08] <Shipper_> u can take a look on engadget http://htl.li/9hgkB
[21:09] <mgj> HacDan, GPL ?
[21:09] <HacDan> the only part that will be closed source will be the android integration bits
[21:09] <HacDan> they don't have to GPL everything they write
[21:09] <mgj> sure
[21:09] <mgj> so not illegal, just silly :P
[21:09] <HacDan> oh yes, them making money is so silly
[21:11] <Myrtti> perhaps it would be wiser to not spread rumours around... just sayin
[21:11] <HacDan> yes, them sending me an email is a rumor
[21:11] <mgj> pretty much, yeah
[21:11] <HacDan> or how about their interview with engadget? is that a good enough source for oyu?
[21:11] <mgj> lol, no.
[21:11] <HacDan> "We asked if Canonical would make the OS available to us ordinary folk sooner than that, so we can play with it and give our feedback, but that just isn't part of the company's game plan right now"
[21:12] <Myrtti> well that's a bit different than "it won't be open sourced"
[21:13] <HacDan> okay
[21:13] <HacDan> I'll reword
[21:13] <HacDan> they have no plans of making it open-source at this time
[21:15] <Myrtti> If I've understood open source licenses correctly, you're allowed to do development on your own time on top of the icy mountain at Spitzbergen and release the stuff to open when you're finally releasing the product out.
[21:15] <HacDan> fine, I'm sure it'll be open-source eventully
[21:15] <HacDan> they're just seeding it to manufacturers for the time being