[00:00] <ActionParsnip> bjrohan: if you run:  smbtree   on the desktop, do you see the shares as your laptop showed it's shares
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> bjrohan: can you please prefix the texts to me with my nick, its easier to spot replies
[00:00] <tlhonmey> Arthur__: You might try the install CDs for a couple of different distros first, and try making a bootable USB device. some of them use different bootloaders.
[00:01] <alejandro> test
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> bjrohan: use TAB to autocomplete nicks
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> !test | alejandro
[00:01] <Arthur__> i have a class and they are teaching ubuntu so i was going to use the same thing on my machine for now
[00:01] <alejandro> #test
[00:02] <_Marcus> alejandro: Ubottu mean's the channel.
[00:03] <Arthur__> thanks for the help i will play with it and see what is the issue
[00:03] <tlhonmey> Arthur__: well, try making a bootable USB, that might fix it.  If that doesn't work, removing the drive is usually only a couple of screws.
[00:04] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip: here is what I get running smbtree from the desktop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/854747/
[00:04] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip: thanks for the tab trick
[00:04] <RenatoSilva> how to disable recent files tracking?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> bjrohan: tab works in cli too :)
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> bjrohan: ok, did you configure the local firewalls on the systems at all?
[00:06] <bjrohan> Actually not the one on my laptop, how do I do that?
[00:06] <the_cops> I heard someone in here was pirating the latest ubuntu, if this is true please cut it out.
[00:06] <RenatoSilva> ActionParsnip: thanks for the guest tip
[00:06] <DonaldShimoda> hi, i need to uninstall a builded kernel, or avoid dkms to build modules for it
[00:06] <DonaldShimoda> çhow to do?
[00:06] <DonaldShimoda> is a own builded kernel, not ubuntu kernel
[00:06] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip: actually not on my laptop, how do I do that?
[00:06] <StevenX> Does anyone here use fail2ban? I can figure out if I have if configured right for my ssh server.
[00:06] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: Try make uninstall in the source directory and see what it does.
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> bjrohan: but you configured it on the desktop?
[00:07] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, make uninstall do nothing
[00:07] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, the problem is now fglrx package failed to install because cannot build with 3.2 ....
[00:08] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, anyway to exclude 3.2 from dkms (jockey)?
[00:08] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip: I believe so. I had access set up before, all worked well, then I did a few things on my laptop and lost connection for file sharing, so it must be that I did something on the laptop. I will google, and check laptop firewall settings
[00:09] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: I'm sure there is, but I don't know what it is off the top of my head.  try man dkms.
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> bjolders: i'd look into the firewall
[00:10] <UnclNastyFingerz> ok so im trying to kompile a kernel to have support for a serial IR port, what modules do i need?
[00:10] <amaroks> Hi Guys
[00:11] <amaroks> anyone around?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> amaroks: nobody at all
[00:11] <CFHowlett> amaroks   no.
[00:11] <amaroks> nice
[00:11] <bazhang> amaroks, ubuntu support issue?
[00:11] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, uninstall -m <module> -v <module-version>... how to know the module version...
[00:11] <amaroks> Goodnight :D I was just trying out IRC on empathy
[00:11] <tlhonmey> UnclNastyFingerz: I don't remember the names, but the ones that are available are labeled as such if you go through the options in make menuconfig.
[00:12] <amaroks> someone says my name please
[00:12] <Canadian1296> amaroks:
[00:12] <amaroks> That is cool
[00:12] <amaroks> nice notifications
[00:12] <amaroks> I used ubuntu for 1 month
[00:12] <amaroks> then back to windows because I needed photoshop
[00:12] <UnclNastyFingerz> its on a KDE box obviously, hence the Kompiler if i were on gnome i would be using gCompiler
[00:12] <amaroks> then I couldnt continue on windows!
[00:12] <amaroks> missed back ubuntu
[00:13] <amaroks> and this week Im back forever I guess
[00:13] <amaroks> I felt locked in windows
[00:13] <bazhang> amaroks, actual support question?
[00:13] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: I'm not sure.  I'm not finding a good set of instructions anywhere.  Mostly, to uninstall a kernel you just need to delete all its files.
[00:13] <gsr> amaroks: plus you can run windows apps with wine, and windows itself in virtualbox
[00:14] <amaroks> yeah gsr, just installed some with wine, works well, they dont look best though
[00:14] <amaroks> anyway to have them look a bit better?
[00:14] <Afzal> amaroks, photoshop cs5 (portable) runs great here on wine
[00:14] <gsr> i just use Virtualbox in seamless mode
[00:14] <RenatoSilva> how to disable recent files tracking? what's the replacement for ~/.gtkrc-2.0?
[00:15] <Canadian1296> I need some help with ssh and sftp
[00:15] <Canadian1296> Here or #ubuntu-server?
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> amaroks: why not dual boot
[00:15] <kc4zvw_> ActionParsnip: after installing XFCE how to make it default sesion?
[00:15] <gsr> Canadian1296,  is it a server side or client side question
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: why not both :)
[00:16] <Canadian1296> gsr: Server side, but you guys respond faster
[00:16] <Canadian1296> ActionParsnip: Okay I will
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> kc4zvw_: log off and select the xfce session, the last session will be set as default for the user
[00:16] <amaroks> ActionParsnip I have dual boot, I just hate windows not sure why
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> amaroks: or use Gimp in Ubuntu, its pretty decent
[00:16] <kc4zvw_> ActionParsnip: roger and thanks
[00:16] <amaroks> and I hate switching always,Gimp couldn't love it
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> kc4zvw_: anytime, thanks for the gratitude :)
[00:17] <amaroks> didn't do well as Photoshop
[00:17] <gsr> Gimp is decent, but it doesn't really compare to photoshop
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> amaroks: due to experience by any chance...
[00:17] <amaroks> even Photoshop 8 CS does much more than Gimp
[00:17] <UnclNastyFingerz> does anyone know the modules needed for serial IR ports?  tlhonmey: i get that I need to make menuconfig im in it as we speak
[00:17] <haux> I have a couple of ext4 partitions, where if I right click on them in ubuntu, and check the permissions, they only show "root" as the user and no other options. I cannot write to these partitions. Can anyone tell me how to correct this?
[00:17] <amaroks> well i tried to learn some, just seems to do less
[00:18] <npope_> haux: google chown
[00:18] <tlhonmey> RenatoSilva you might have more luck asking in #gnome
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> haux: add them in /etc/fstab and set better access
[00:18] <humungulous> Canadian1296: waiting for your ssh/sftp question
[00:19] <amaroks> Thanks and Good night people
[00:19] <tlhonmey> UnclNastyFingerz: There are a few sections of hardware drivers in there, the IR port drivers will be in one of them.  Unfortunately I don't recall which one.
[00:19] <haux> I think chown is going to work here, as long as it works for entire partitions. Thank you!
[00:19] <bjrohan> join #ubuntu+1
[00:19] <urfr332gO> bjrohan, /join
[00:19] <zykotick9> haux: change the permission on the mount points
[00:19] <bjrohan> got it :)
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> haux: chown -R    for recursive
[00:20] <tlhonmey> haux: chown will work on /dev files, and with -R will work on all files in a partition, either way.
[00:20] <supermun> my touchpad and touchpad click buttons are not working. will someone help me troubleshoot?
[00:20] <supermun> ubuntu 11.10
[00:20] <zykotick9> tlhonmey: i believe trying to chmod /dev will be reset after a reboot
[00:20] <haux> So like, chown -R /dev/sdc1 haux ?
[00:21] <tlhonmey> zykotick9: generally speaking, yes.
[00:21] <npope_> haux: give it a user
[00:21] <humungulous> i think haux's problem is theyre not mounted correctly in the first place
[00:21] <Canadian1296> I need to confine certain users to their home directory in sftp. I have everything set up (they can't execute a shell, only sftp.) I need to confine them to their home (they are in the group "sftponly"). I'm using "Match group sftphosting
[00:21] <Canadian1296>         ChrootDirectory %h" to do so, but as soon as I add that i can't log in (I get "Write failed: broken pipe"
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> haux: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /mount/point      not the block device
[00:21] <tlhonmey> haux: that will change the permissions on the device allowing the user in question control of what to do with them.  It's probably not what you're wanting to do.
[00:21] <Canadian1296> Sorry that took so long, I was typing
[00:22] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, yeah! deleting modules domthe trick, thanks! will reboot and see
[00:22] <DonaldShimoda> bye
[00:22] <tlhonmey> Canadian1296: the chroot you create will need the files and programs necessary to login and initiate the transfer.
[00:22] <humungulous> ^^^ yes this
[00:23] <lorecaster> Hail, all. While trying to get my BLUE SNOWBALL microphone installed (which it still is not) in the sound properties, and selected as my default microphone, I lost my speakers... soundcard now reads "dummy". I assume it's not trying to hurt my feelings, can anyone give me a hand?
[00:23] <haux> tlhonmey, that's pretty much what I'm trying to accomplish. Right now I simply can't write to them (without sudo), because root is set as the owner.
[00:23] <supermun> can someone help me troubleshoot why my touchpad and touchpad left right clicks are not working?
[00:23] <haux> ActionParsnip, maybe I'm confused about what you mean by mount point. Is /dev/sdc1 not a mount point?
[00:23] <Canadian1296> So what do I have to do? I need to bind them to /var/www/hosting/theirusername so they can edit the contents of their server directory but nothign else.
[00:24] <tlhonmey> haux: that's an artifice of how they are mounted.  Try the uid and gid mount options to allow usage by non-root people.
[00:24] <blumonkey> can i do a md5checksum on an ubuntu distro thats already burned to a disc
[00:24] <glen_3b> haux: A mount point is where you access the device contents, for example /media/cdrom might be a cdrom mount point
[00:25] <tlhonmey> haux: /dev/sdc1 is the raw device.
[00:25] <humungulous> Canadian1296: read here about chrooting shell users http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/chroot-users-with-openssh-an-easier-way-to-confine-users-to-their-home-directories/229
[00:25] <Afzal> can someone send me the output of their groups command plz?
[00:25] <humungulous> blumonkey: md5sum the .iso you burned it from
[00:25] <log> Afzal: logan adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[00:26] <Afzal> log, thanks!
[00:26] <log> Afzal: You're welcome.
[00:26] <glen_3b> Afzal: glen root adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare subversion vboxusers androiddevs
[00:26] <humungulous> blumonkey: there is also a disc integrity check built in to the top menu when you boot into the disk
[00:26] <Canadian1296> humungulous: Thanks I'll give it a try. That's pretty much what I did, just there were a few things missing
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> haux: no /dev/sdc1 is the block device, you mount the block device and you can access the data etc, you manipulate that
[00:26] <Afzal> glen_3b, thanks! ... you're in the root group, is that by default?
[00:27] <glen_3b> Afzal: no
[00:27] <haux> Alright, I'll reboot back into ubuntu here in a few minutes to see what the mount point is and give it a try. Thank you.
[00:27] <glen_3b> Afzal: At least as far as I remember, no
[00:27] <humungulous> Canadian1296: some dependency is missing thats whats causing the erro message youre seeing
[00:27] <humungulous> *error
[00:27] <Afzal> glen_3b, yeah just confirming, thanks
[00:27] <supermun> should i take a ticket and wait haha?
[00:27] <Canadian1296> humungulous: I'll just try one thing at a time till I find it
[00:28] <glen_3b> Afzal: Yeah, I've made a lot of system tweaks
[00:28] <humungulous> you should be able to track it down in the login scripts but it will require some investigation
[00:28] <bastidrazor> supermun: aren't you using mint?
[00:29] <UnclNastyFingerz> i need sum stank foot
[00:29] <supermun> no, i was consdiering switching. I am using Ubuntu 11.10
[00:30] <lorecaster> Soundcard issues... any gunna give me a hand? :P
[00:30] <Bealhorm> My question for Ubuntu mobile is ; Huawei only has a few phones, I wonder if it'll be supported
[00:30] <DonaldShimoda> it works.. :)
[00:30] <ariel`> can somebody tell me how to connect from the command line i deleted network manager and cant connect to the internet
[00:30] <CFHowlett> !ubuntu-phone|Bealhorm
[00:30] <humungulous> ariel': ifup eth0 ???
[00:30] <tlhonmey> ariel`: wired or wireless?
[00:31] <Canadian1296> humungulous: Okay, I've done everything it told me to and still no avail, as the next step is setting up a bash shell for them. I don't want them to have a bash script, and they won't be using ssh. Just logging in with sftp
[00:31] <Bealhorm> CFHowlett, what do you mean?
[00:31] <supermun> can you help, bastidrazor?
[00:31] <ariel`> which one is simpler wires or wirless
[00:31] <ariel`> wired
[00:31] <Afzal> so, has anybody got vlc 2.0 on maverick (10.10)?
[00:31] <UnclNastyFingerz> wired
[00:31] <CFHowlett> Bealhorm   might want to ask at @ubuntu-phone
[00:31] <humungulous> Canadian1296: if it's limited to sftp only then follow the instructions in the top half of the article to set their shell to none
[00:31] <Bealhorm> ah, thanks
[00:31] <CFHowlett> Bealhorm   might want to ask at @  #ubuntu-phone
[00:31] <UnclNastyFingerz> thanks
[00:31] <UnclNastyFingerz> phone
[00:31] <ariel`> how do i connect to wired then
[00:31] <tlhonmey> Canadian1296: you can set their login shell to anything you want.
[00:32] <tlhonmey> ariel`: wired is a *lot* simpler.
[00:32] <humungulous> ariel': what do you get for ifconfig
[00:32] <supermun> I am using Ubuntu 11.10 and my touhpad and touhcpad buttons aren't responding. can someone help me troubleshoot?
[00:32] <Canadian1296> humungulous: I already did the top half, I'm getting broken pipe still.
[00:32] <humungulous> Canadian1296: on sftp connection attempt???
[00:32] <ariel`> i get eth0 etho0 avahi and lo
[00:33] <Canadian1296> humungulous tlhonmey: How do I set their shell to sftp?
[00:33] <Canadian1296> humungulous: Yes
[00:33] <humungulous> Canadian1296: you dont, they dont have a shell. yo uset their shell to /bin/false
[00:34] <supermun> :(, ill wait as long as it takes for help but i just want to know someone wil help me eventually
[00:34] <humungulous> Canadian1296: do sftp -vv <your server> and read the diagnostic output
[00:34] <ariel`> which interface is important
[00:34] <humungulous> ariel': eth0
[00:35] <ariel`> but theres 2 of them what do i do next
[00:35] <Canadian1296> humungulous: Okay, so I type "sftp username@server" and it asks for a pass. I give it and I get "Write failed: Broken Pipe" then "Connection Closed"
[00:35] <humungulous> Canadian1296: add "-vv" to that to get more verbose
[00:35] <Canadian1296> I'll do it then pastebin the results for you
[00:35] <humungulous> Canadian1296: that will tell you what is going wrong and when
[00:35] <humungulous> yes
[00:35] <phcarepr> hiiii
[00:36] <humungulous> ariel': ifup eth0
[00:36] <phcarepr> did u hear about ubuntu for mobile
[00:37] <vindav> hello every one...I'm trying to figure out why none of my USB webcams will not be visible to me or anyone as I would like to have Skype fully functionable so I can call on friends.  I am currently using Ubuntu 11.1 in gnome classic mode
[00:37] <skypce> hello, how can i set super key to open gedit?
[00:37] <Canadian1296> humungulous: Here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/854788/
[00:37] <skypce> hello, how can i set super key to open gedit? i am with ubuntu 11.10?
[00:38] <ariel`> humungulous i get an error
[00:38] <Nardeli> hi...
[00:38] <Nardeli> i need help
[00:38] <Nardeli> pls
[00:38] <Canadian1296> !ask | Nardeli
[00:38] <phcarepr> what is your problem nardeli
[00:38] <humungulous> Canadian1296: the sftp subsystem is failing to start
[00:39] <humungulous> did you put ForceCommand internal-sftp
[00:39] <phcarepr> hey nardeli
[00:40] <phcarepr> what is your problem nardeli
[00:40] <pr0ton> how can i check which is the version of the particular package i can download?
[00:40] <pr0ton> (i dont want to download it, i just want to know what version i can get from apt-get)
[00:40] <zykotick9> pr0ton: "apt-cache policy foo"
[00:40] <humungulous> pr0ton apt-get -s
[00:40] <lorecaster> Calling all sound-card wizards ;) or at least sound-settings manager?
[00:40] <meganerd> pr0ton: aptitude show <packagename>
[00:40] <oliphant> is it possible to find-out and copy all files/dirs that my wireless driver uses? Theoretically I could just then paste all that into a new install and have wifi. Would this work?
[00:40] <Nardeli> I installed Kubuntu 11.10, downloaded to the drive nVidia GTX 560 Ti but I could not install... (sorry, Im using translator)
[00:40] <supermun> it worked :) my touchpad works noe
[00:40] <supermun> needed a reboot
[00:41] <supermun> thanks for the help
[00:42] <supermun> i see Nvidia driver version 173 and the recomended driver, whats the difference?
[00:42] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  I'm trying to figure out why none of my USB webcams will not be visible to me or anyone as I would like to have Skype fully functionable so I can call on friends.  Can you help me out please if you have some time ?
[00:42] <Canadian1296> humungulous: Yes I did. I have ChrootDirectory %h, X11Forwarding no, AllowTcpForwarding no, and ForceCommand internal-sftp. Same error
[00:42] <tlhonmey> supermun the 173 version is for certain, legacy cards if I recall...
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> vindav: do the cams work in cheese?
[00:43] <Canadian1296> humungulous: But if I try as a user that is not in the group sftphosting then it succeeds, so I'm guessing it's the fact they're bound to /var/www/hosting but there is no stfp program in that directory (or something like that)
[00:43] <supermun> okay so ill stick with recomended, thanks tlhonmey
[00:43] <supermun> anyone here experienced with Ubuntu and unraring NZbs?
[00:43] <tlhonmey> supermun: If it doesn't work, swap it for the other one.
[00:43] <humungulous> Canadian1296: which ubuntu version
[00:43] <Canadian1296> humungulous: 10.04.4 LTS
[00:43] <Canadian1296> Server
[00:43] <mister2> anyone here play eternal lands/know if it works on dial up? i ask here because the channel is dead and the game is listed on playdeb for debian derivatives and thought someone would know.
[00:44] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  the cam doesn't work in cheese.
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> vindav: then run:  lsusb   and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[00:44] <humungulous> Canadian1296: discussion here says it works http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1552217
[00:44] <Afzal> supermun, 260 i think is the "recommended" driver. I wouldn't advist installing 295 from the xedgers ppa
[00:45] <Afzal> advise*
[00:45] <humungulous> Canadian1296: are you doing identical to that?
[00:45] <tlhonmey> mister2: That's going to depend almost entirely on how much bandwidth it uses.  Most games I've seen run ok on dialup, but downloading update packs may take an unreasonable amount of time.
[00:45] <supermun> ty, Afzal
[00:45] <humungulous> Canadian1296: possibly Subsystem sftp internal-sftp
[00:46] <franz__> hi, how to open a browser using proxy?
[00:46] <mister2> tlhonmey i'm not concerned about that too much. The game itself is around 100mb so i figure it'll be done after a movie. I'm thinking more and more i'll just download it and see
[00:46] <Canadian1296> humungulous: Subsystem sftp internal-sftp (i copied and pasted)
[00:47] <tlhonmey> mister2: as long as it's not streaming audio or video from the server, the datastream tends to be fairly compact for most online games.
[00:47] <kihlim> hi is there anywhere i can get the newest ubuntu with gnome pre installed?
[00:47] <vindav> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/854794/
[00:47] <mister2> tlhonmey that was exactly the information i was looking for! thank you :D
[00:47] <humungulous> Canadian1296: and you already sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart to capture the changes right
[00:47] <tlhonmey> kihlim: http://emperorlinux.com/  They've been around for a while.
[00:48] <Canadian1296> humungulous: every time I changed something, yes. Heres my /etc/ssh/sshd_config file if it helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/854796/
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> vindav: that's not good
[00:48] <tlhonmey> kihlim: Otherwise find your local linux users group and there will probably be somebody who will set it up for you.  :)
[00:48] <kihlim> i mean lke a distrubiution
[00:49] <humungulous> Canadian1296: it should work. im stumped
[00:49] <Oer> kihlim the newest 12.04 isn't out yet
[00:49] <Canadian1296> humungulous: I'll pastebin everything that might have an effect on it. Hang on a couple minutes.
[00:50] <humungulous> Canadian1296: all you can do is revert back to where you started and redo everything one step at a time
[00:50] <kihlim> ok whats the name of the old one with gnome preinstalled?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> vindav: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:51] <Oer> kihlim, 11.10 oneiric ocelot
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> kihlim: Oneiric Ubuntu has Gnome preinstalled...
[00:51] <vindav> ActionParsnip:   Output is:   oneiric                                  I'll be back in a half an hour
[00:51] <dmj726> Did the keyboard shortcuts for switching workspaces just get changed in 12.04?
[00:52] <kihlim> ok will try it then
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> dmj726: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Pre-release support
[00:53] <kihlim> lol thats the same that i have now
[00:53] <motherbrain> to make the analogy a percentage breakdown for browsers is here http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp only about .8% of people are using something different the chrome , IE , or firefox.  (maybe they are using lynx,link ,links ,...etc lol :) their are alot but not very much used other then the 3 major players in browsers) GOT TO BE SITE EQUIVALENT FOR THE NETWORK HARDWARE
[00:53] <kihlim> but my doesnt have gnome preinstalled
[00:54] <Canadian1296> humungulous: The only things I can think of are a) The way I created the user, b) The fact the user's home is /var/www/hosting/rutger as opposed to /home/rutger, c) The fact they are bound to /var/www/hosting/rutger but that directory has no shell or sftp programs in it d) the ownerships.
[00:54] <humungulous> Canadian1296: well lets eliminate those
[00:54] <humungulous> Canadian1296: first test, set up one as /home/<user> and see if it works
[00:54] <Canadian1296> humungulous: Okay one sec.
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> kihlim: it does, unity is just a shell. It uses Gnome desktop by default
[00:56] <kihlim> ok is there any distrubution witth the gnome shell preinstalled?
[00:56] <Canadian1296> humungulous: The guide says to use "sudo useradd -d /home/bob -s /usr/lib/sftp-server -M -N -g sftphosting bob"  but since some of those options are ambigous, itt translates to "sudo useradd /home/bob --shell /usr/lib/sftp-server -N --group sftphosting --disable-login home" I imagine the "--disable-login" may cause some issues...
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> kihlim: just install gnome-shell   it's in the repos
[00:57] <humungulous> Canadian1296: well you can verify the result in /etc/passwd
[00:57] <RenatoSilva> tlhonmey: ok asked there
[00:57] <humungulous> Canadian1296: (dont paste that here though for christ sake)
[00:57] <kihlim> its not just for me
[00:58] <Canadian1296> humungulous: It's "rutgerdehann:x:1001:1001:Rutger De Hann,,,:/var/www/hosting/rutger:/bin/false" (see? I only posted the important line :) )
[00:58] <crystaltv> any online poker players here? Ihave questions about ubuntu and running an xp kvm so I can still play..
[00:58] <humungulous> hehehe
[00:58] <humungulous> technically the hashed pw is in /etc/shadow
[00:58] <tlhonmey> crystaltv: Well, the first question is whether ubuntu will work with the site in question...  It does with lots of them...
[00:59] <tlhonmey> crystaltv: you could eliminate the extra setup if it does.
[00:59] <humungulous> what is you make shell /usr/lib/sftp-server again
[00:59] <humungulous> is=if
[00:59] <RenatoSilva> unity runs on top of gnome 3 libs right? so it runs gtk 3? is gtk 3 backwards compatible with gtk 2?
[00:59] <crystaltv> tlhonmey: I am in the US so I can only play on the Merge network.. and have tried to install the clients under wine and they dont run
[00:59] <tlhonmey> RenatoSilva: In terms of programs it's supposed to be backward compatible.
[00:59] <Canadian1296> humungulous: I'll create a new user with those option, minus the --disable-login
[01:00] <humungulous> ok
[01:00] <RenatoSilva> tlhonmey: and in terms of what it's not?
[01:00] <kihlim> ok any other good distrobotion with gnome preinstalled?
[01:01] <humungulous> Canadian1296: i never use useradd i always mess around in /etc/passwd and /etc/groups and issue /sbin/pwconv and /sbin/grpconv after
[01:01] <tlhonmey> Configuration files are probably different in some places.  I haven't done a detailed comparison.
[01:01] <humungulous> er, /usr/sbin/pwconv and /usr/sbin/grpconv i should have said
[01:01] <tlhonmey> kihlim: Linux Mint, and Fedora come to mind.  Personally I like Mint better.
[01:01] <lorecaster> Any new takers (REally don't mean to bother, but I'm trying to do a transcription for work and REALLY need soudncard drivers)
[01:01] <Canadian1296> humungulous: Okay I ran "sudo useradd --home /home/bob --shell /usr/lib/sftp-server -N --group sftphosting bob" then "sudo passwd bob" and then tried logging into sftp as him. Still got broken pipe
[01:02] <humungulous> googling
[01:02] <kihlim> ok will try install them instead
[01:02] <Canadian1296> humungulous: k
[01:02] <tlhonmey> crystaltv: the merge network site is saying that they're not accepting US players...
[01:02] <humungulous> reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1482005
[01:03] <crystaltv> tlhonmey: I know but I am on several merge sites :) was on the before black friday
[01:03] <humungulous> look at post 2
[01:03] <humungulous> the owner of the destination directory must be "root", and group/other users cannot have write permissions
[01:03] <Canadian1296> humungulous: I'll give it a try :)
[01:04] <tlhonmey> crystaltv: Ok.  Lock poker and Carbon Poker say they support Linux...
[01:04] <tlhonmey> crystaltv: Otherwise, virtualbox runs a pretty good Virtual Machine if you have a license for Windows.
[01:04] <humungulous> someones entire wiki about it here http://wiki.lapipaplena.org/index.php/How_to_mount_SFTP_accesses
[01:05] <crystaltv> tlhonmey: I did not know that as I play on Blackchip, IronDuke and PokerHost
[01:05] <humungulous> phew... glad im not you
[01:05] <crystaltv> tlhonmey and I do have a license for windows so I guess virtual box is the way to go.. as I also run Holdem Manager so I would have to install it on the VB image
[01:06] <tlhonmey> crystaltv: If you need any help setting it up, feel free to let me know.
[01:06] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  ok, I'm back.
[01:06] <Canadian1296> humungulous: Huh, what do you know? It worked! I just needed to change /var/www/hosting/rutger 's ownership to root.
[01:07] <Canadian1296> humungulous: Thank you so much  :D
[01:07] <humungulous> what a pain eh
[01:07] <humungulous> glad it finally worked
[01:07] <pr0ton> (i dont want to download it, i just want to know what version i can get from apt-get)/join #apt
[01:07] <tlhonmey> crystaltv: not that I'm personally inclined to trust online gambling sites that don't offer cryptographic verification.  ;)
[01:08] <Canadian1296> humungulous: Yeah, it could've given a more verbose error message (something about ownership would've been nice). But anyways its fixed now :)
[01:08] <humungulous> us:1 openssh:0
[01:08] <immediately> how to install vitualbox-4.1 from terminal?
[01:09] <Canadian1296> immediately: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[01:09] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  the output is:   oneiric
[01:09] <dlentz> !ask | lorecaster
[01:09] <tlhonmey> immediately: If you want you can download the packages from the virtualbox site and use dpkg to install them.
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you need the lsusb output
[01:10] <crystaltv> tlhonmey: That is why all poker players need to be heard so we can get the good sites back so join the PPA :)
[01:10] <immediately> what is sudo apt-get install dkms for?
[01:11] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  the lsusb output is:   Segmentation fault
[01:11] <lorecaster> I've asked several times in the past... hour or so. I see people pop in and out frequently, and I know that if you hop in you dond't see what has been posted before. I'm not new here, and I asked my question much earlier.
[01:11] <ubuntu_> I need to get some files from a system that will nolonger boot
[01:11] <humungulous> immediately: Dynamic Kernel Module Support Framework
[01:11] <tlhonmey> crystaltv: Or just use TOR.  ;)
[01:11] <urfr332gO> immediately, allows kernel updates to keep vbox setting..no guest install again after a kernel update
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> vindav: thats not good, if you boot to an older kernel is it ok?
[01:12] <dlentz> lorecaster, okay, then you should probably use a forum
[01:12] <NyLes> help me im trying to compile the alsa source, i typed this; sudo ./configure --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) --with-cards=intel8x0 --with-oss=ye
[01:12] <tlhonmey> immediately: virtualbox requires a kernel module.  dkms will automatically recompile that module when you update your kernel.
[01:12] <immediately> Is it possible to create a VM inside a VM using VirtualBox? or do I need to install VMWare inside the guest?
[01:12] <NyLes> and it replied: The file /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-32-generic/include/linux/autoconf.h does not exist.
[01:12] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  yes, it has worked in lower Ubuntu O/S grades.
[01:13] <humungulous> NyLes: sudo apt-get install autoconf  ???
[01:13] <NyLes> when i checked it really dows not exist, please help..
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> vindav: sounds like a bug
[01:13] <urfr332gO> immediately, this a theoretical question or a goal?
[01:14] <NyLes> humungulous: are you telling me to try it?
[01:14] <humungulous> Nyles: yep
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> immediately: technically you could, we do it where I work
[01:14] <crystaltv> tlhonmey: well there is that lol
[01:14] <NyLes> humungulous: thanks, now installing..
[01:14] <crystaltv> tlhonmey thanks for the help bud.. take it easy
[01:14] <humungulous> immediately: yes, you can nest VMs. every guest is a bare metal machine for all it knows.
[01:15] <franz__> how to open multiple chromium windows with diferent proxy?
[01:15] <kismet> so the 64-bit installer didn't get grub to recognize my Win7 install, but it looks like running update-grub found it. We'll see when it's time to reboot
[01:16] <NyLes> humungulous: same result after installing, do i need to reboot?
[01:16] <humungulous> Nyles: googling
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> franz__: is there a way to pass it execution options?
[01:16] <NyLes> humungulous: thanks, i really have no idea...
[01:16] <LL2|Android> Ummm
[01:16] <immediately> any software like autoVPN that auto-connects VPN when VPN failure
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> franz__: you could also make another user and setup the browser there then use su to run the browser as the other user and the other settings will be used
[01:17] <ubuntu_> Is there any way to retrive files from a system that will no longer boot with a live cd
[01:17] <LL2|Android> I really think that the floodbots should respond to a CTCP VERSION
[01:17] <LL2|Android> Just saying
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: sure, as long as you can mount the partitions
[01:17] <humungulous> NyLes: you need to install kernel sources
[01:17] <franz__> ActionParsnip i barey remember some command
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: why do you not have a backup?
[01:17] <franz__> like proxy:port appname
[01:17] <martian> franz__: http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/network-settings
[01:17] <franz__> or something lke that
[01:17] <Roasted> Question - I set my resolution to something the TV didn't like. Now I have absolutely zero output once I log in. What can I do?
[01:18] <NyLes> humungulous: you mean this one; linux-headers-2.6.35-32-generic?
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> franz__: make a new user and configure the other proxy first, then read the man page for su
[01:18] <ubuntu_> i just installed the system and someone was helping me install drivers
[01:18] <CyFus> can anyone help with with a suspend issue?
[01:18] <humungulous> Nyles: sure
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: drop to root recovery mode (which will be text mode) and you can work there
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | CyFus
[01:19] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  If I down graded from Ubuntu 11.1 to Ubuntu 10.0 LTS, would my current dual boot system that has Windows 7 and Ubuntu 11.1 on it, would the Ubuntu system be just replaceable like I had upgraded before, if that makes sense to you ?
[01:19] <NyLes> humungulous: i have it already, and i have the folder structure the only missing is autoconf.h..
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you would need a clean install to do that
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> vindav: did you upgrade directly from Lucid to Oneiric?
[01:19] <humungulous> unusual
[01:19] <CyFus> when ever I suspend or hibernate in 11.04 i get stuck at a blank screen with the mouse
[01:19] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, I know that much, but... then what?
[01:20] <histo> ubuntu_: What happens when you try to boot off of the live cd?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: well, what GPU do you use?
[01:20] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, E-350 APU
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: did you install the proprietary driver?
[01:20] <humungulous> NyLes: try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic build-essential
[01:20] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, no
[01:20] <ubuntu_> histo i see the files but I cant copy
[01:21] <martian> Roasted: perhaps: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:21] <urfr332gO> CyFus, do you have your swap at least equal to the ram?
[01:21] <Roasted> martian, did that. :(
[01:21] <histo> ubuntu_: where/what are you trying to copy them to?
[01:21] <ubuntu_> to another partition
[01:21] <NyLes> humungulous: it says, both are already the newest version..
[01:21] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  yes, I did upgrade to Ubuntu 11.1 on the dual boot system.
[01:21] <humungulous> damn
[01:22] <histo> ubuntu_: are you getting a permision error or something?
[01:22] <CyFus> urfr332g0 I have the swap partition at 9gb on an 8gb system, its on an areca raid-0
[01:22] <histo> ubuntu_: you have to mount the other partition before you can write to it
[01:22] <humungulous> NyLes: do you have /boot/vmlinuz.autoconf.h
[01:22] <CyFus> its on an mbr table as a primary partiton
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> vindav: but did you upgrade to the releases between?
[01:22] <martian> Roasted: you may need to dive in to editing the xorg config
[01:23] <NyLes> humungulous: none?
[01:24] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  I don't think so other than the updates from "Update Manager" that are so generally done for the newbie (me).
[01:24] <humungulous> NyLes: issue "locate autoconf.h"
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> vindav: the I suggest you reinstall. Leapfrogging releases isn't supported and is why you are getting the issue (more than likely)
[01:24] <l_pottersky> hi there
[01:24] <ch33z> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DJZtf2aS2Y
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> ch33z: don't bother next time
[01:25] <ch33z> what
[01:26] <NyLes> humungulous: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic/include/generated/autoconf.h
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> ch33z: this is support, not only is the subject matter not suitable for the channel but this is a family friendly channel
[01:26] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Ok, I'll do that...and on another matter, it seems that Firefox 10 is crashing like banshee in a Dell D630 laptop that has Ubuntu 10.10 on it.  Does Ubuntu 10.10 have issues using Firefox ?
[01:26] <ubuntu_> histo is there anyway to take ownership of a file from a live cd
[01:26] <humungulous> NyLes: copy that to the location where it's missing from
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> vindav: im sure it will be fine
[01:26] <l_pottersky> vindav: :(
[01:26] <ch33z> o woops sorry
[01:26] <ch33z> lol
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> vindav: do a clean install of Oneiric and wipe out the mess you have now. it will run better
[01:27] <ch33z> like barney and friends etc bleh bleh
[01:27] <NyLes> humungulous: done, i will try the compile again?
[01:28] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Ok, I'll do that too.  BTW, is Ubuntu 10.10 called Maverick or Oneiric ?
[01:28] <haux> Just to follow up, for whoever helped me with my issue a few minutes ago. 'sudo chown -R haux:haux /media/xubuntu' did the trick. Although, I ended up formatting one of the partitions, and after the format, the user was reset back to root. I wonder why this happens? This did not occur in my previous install of ubuntu. Not a problem, just odd to me.
[01:29] <histo> ubuntu_: well if the partition you are copying to is mounted read only that could be your problem.
[01:29] <NyLes> humungulous: the last line says hacking autoconf.h is is successful?
[01:29] <l3d> how would i make a drive not auto mount after boot?
[01:29] <humungulous> NyLes: dunno, does it continue normally after that
[01:29] <undeclaredx> I added a service with a port number into /etc/services, but if I do netstat, it isn't named, and /etc/hosts.allow is not working (the port is open otherwise).
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> vindav: 10.10 = Maverick and is EOL in April
[01:29] <humungulous> l3d: comment it out of /etc/fstab
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> vindav: 11.10 is Oneiric and is the current stable release
[01:30] <tlhonmey> l3d: Change the parameters for it in /etc/fstab
[01:30] <NyLes> humungulous: yeah.. no error..
[01:30] <NyLes> humungulous: ill try this one thanks..
[01:30] <humungulous> ok
[01:30] <undeclaredx> can I use just a port number in /etc/hosts.allow?
[01:31] <ubuntu_> histo I'm copying to a usb drive it works for all but one file
[01:32] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  We'll...Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't allow me the full menu (application menu that includes preference & adminstration) in gnome or Unity.  Firefox also crashes like a banshee in that too.  Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is good until the spring of 2013.  What is your suggestion ?
[01:32] <vindav> Action
[01:33] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Is there a way to remove any traces or remnants, and all of Firefox in Ubuntu 10.10 ? If so, what is the terminal command(s) to do so please ?
[01:34] <almoxarife> vindav: sudo apt-get purge firefox
[01:34] <undeclaredx> To add a new entry with a custom port to /etc/hosts.allow, is it correct that I'm looking to add something to /etc/services with the port number?
[01:35] <motherbrain> Does anybody know how hard it would be if you where an expert at cisco networks to learn how to setup,...etc HP or Juniper or the rest of the network devices non-cisco based?
[01:35] <rodhash> Hi all.. Does anyone know why yakuake opens a new pts/X for each new session??
[01:35] <vindav> almoxarife:  doing that now.  Hope this works.
[01:36] <NyLes> sound card still doesn't work :/
[01:36] <almoxarife> vindav: what is replacing firefox?
[01:36] <NyLes> how do i know if alsa is really running in boot?
[01:36] <NyLes> is there something line xorg.0.log
[01:37] <TrueTech> hello is some in here?
[01:37] <log> !ask | TrueTech
[01:37] <rodhash> Hi all.. Does anyone know why yakuake opens a new pts/X for each new session??
[01:37] <vindav> almoxarife:  We'll...nothing is replacing Firefox (FF). I want to remove it, and do a fresh install because it's crashing like a banshee continuously so as to speak.  Everytime I click on something, FF crashes down.
[01:37] <motherbrain>  would it take a long time to learn if you where CCIE and wanted to work with non-cisco based networks
[01:37] <TrueTech> where can I download Ubuntu for android on sgs2?
[01:38] <NyLes> is there something line xorg.0.log for alsa?
[01:38] <log> rodhash: If you don't get an answer here, you might also want to consider asking that question in #yakuake.
[01:38] <vindav> almoxairfe:  do I need to do a restart of Ubuntu 10.10 since I removed FF in order to install it once again ?
[01:38] <TrueTech> where can I download Ubuntu for android on sgs2?
[01:38] <almoxarife> vindav: in your home folder wipeout any folder named 'firefox' or rename them, but do wipe out firefox in home too
[01:39] <log> TrueTech: Ubuntu for Android is still in development.
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> vindav: mv ~/.mozilla/firefox ~/.mozilla/firefox_old  may do it
[01:39] <almoxarife> vindav: also folders named 'mozilla'
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> log: its exciting though
[01:39] <TrueTech> Is there any beta version or alpha version that I can test?
[01:39] <log> ActionParsnip: Very true. :)
[01:40] <log> TrueTech: I doubt it; looks very closed source to me right now (probably in development over at Canonical).
[01:41] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  ok, I've renamed the file called Firefox to something else now.
[01:41] <TrueTech> Is there any downloadable content from Canonical that may contain the system?
[01:41] <stevem> join #reprap
[01:41] <vindav> almoxarife:  ok, I've renamed the file called Firefox to something else now.
[01:41] <log> TrueTech: I highly doubt it.
[01:41] <log> If anything, it would be highly unstable.
[01:42] <almoxarife> vindav: file? think folders
[01:42] <NyLes> is there something line xorg.0.log for alsa?
[01:42] <log> !repeat | NyLes
[01:42] <TrueTech> even so. I do want to test it if there is any
[01:43] <scottj> anyone know how lnotify uses categories?
[01:44] <vindav> almoxarife:  I did rename  the former file to /home/.mozilla/old/firefox-defunct
[01:44] <Roasted> Question - How can I get a hard drive into fd mode for software raid using fdisk? Disk utility is not allowing me to do so.
[01:44] <skypce> how does can i set super key in ubuntu 11.10?
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest84784
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> skypce: set it to what? The question is non-sensical...
[01:46] <skypce> ActionParsnip,  i want launch slingshot launcher with super key
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> skypce: do you use desktop effects?
[01:49] <skypce> yes , i use compiz
[01:49] <skypce> yes , i use compiz, ActionParsnip
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> skypce: compiz can manage shortcuts in the commands bit, you assign a command to a sot, then make a shortcut for that slot and it will run. Not sure you can have just Super on it's own
[01:51] <skypce> i was trying with gconf-editor and ccsm
[01:51] <skypce> but nothing
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> skypce: ccsm is where is is set
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[01:51] <orangepnut> In Advanced Settings under the Shell Extensions category there's nothing and it's completely blank how do I get the options there?
[01:52] <vindav> ActionParsnip:   Do you know of which Mozilla desktop add-ons that are not compatible with Firefox 10 ?
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> vindav: no idea dude, I haven't used firefox in AGES. I think its a poor browser
[01:54] <__name__> Hey
[01:54] <skypce> thank you ActionParsnip
[01:54] <skypce> i will try with keytouch
[01:55] <__name__> Is there any better way to have *good* powersave on my laptop than patching powertop to generate a script that disables the webcam, sets USB &c to powersave, disables the fingerprint sensor, etc?
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> __name__: do you use the fingerprint sensor?
[01:57] <__name__> ActionParsnip, Nah, that's why I disable it.
[01:58] <Jake_J> Does anyone know if it is possible to configure an active audio crossover in ubunt?
[01:58] <Jake_J> *ubuntu
[01:59] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  We'
[01:59] <eodchop> I recently bought a car that has a Mark Levinson stereo. It has the ability to play dvd audio discs. Does anyone know how i can burn a bunch of mp3 to dvd? I tried burning a dvd disc by making a data disc. It wouldnt play.
[01:59] <zykotick9> Jake_J: do you mean crossfade?  Rhythmbox can do that.
[01:59] <__name__> How was that set of scripts that is exectuted when the laptop goes to battery power called?
[02:00] <grendal-prime> I got a blue ray player drive recognizes the movie disk..but...wont play it
[02:00] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  we'll...what do you use as a browser that uses a cloud like Xmarks to effectively keep or modify your bookmarks you want across your whole network ?
[02:00] <undeclaredx> I added a port number to /etc/services, then a rule to /etc/hosts.allow, but it is still refusing connections.. Anyone have a clue why?
[02:00] <grendal-prime> recognizes the title...i can browse the file structure
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> vindav: what are cloud like xmarks ?
[02:00] <Jake_J> zykotick9: No, crossover as in sending bass content below a certain frequency to a subwoofer
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> vindav: thats not special, opera has had centrally stored bookmarks for ages! chromium also does it no problem.
[02:01] <zykotick9> undeclaredx: /etc/host.allow or host.deny is unlikely to work for any service you might be running.
[02:02] <zykotick9> Jake_J: ok, sorry.  Obviously i have no idea.  Good luck.
[02:02] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Xmarks is from Mozilla that supports Firefox in that you can log into it from any computer using Firefox and download or upload to the server.  Oh, I didn't know that Chrome and Opera have the same feature.  How do I go about getting those features in them as they are my back up browsers ?
[02:04] <why> huhu
[02:06] <Guest74467> what
[02:06] <xangua> vindav: xmarks works in mozilla, chrome/mium and explorer
[02:06] <bjrohan> Anyone have experience connecting their android phone to a computer on their home network via the internet?
[02:06] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Have a good night; thank you for helping me today  :D
[02:07] <blumonkey> does my client have to synchronize with network before i can use it? its going on 2 hours now and its only at 81%
[02:07] <vindav> xangua:   pardon me for asking, how do I get Xmarks to sync or be installed into Chromium and Opera ?
[02:07] <xangua> vindav: install it on chrome/ium and log in
[02:08] <eggzeck> exit
[02:08] <vindav> xangua:  I'm going to do it.  I'll be right back at ya.  :D
[02:10] <urfr332gO> vindav, xmarks is a plugin, not actually from mozilla FF has it's own built in sync]
[02:11] <tobias234> my notebook shuts down what could it be how can i see the protocols?
[02:11] <tobias234> i think maybe its the gfx card(gets2hot)
[02:11] <urfr332gO> tobias234, randomly?
[02:11] <tobias234> i try now ubuntu2d :)
[02:12] <tobias234> so maybe this is an hardware shutdown
[02:12] <tobias234> but because of effects. how can i read the log files?
[02:14] <tyler> is there a way to completely remove the unity bar in ubuntu 11.10?
[02:15] <urfr332gO> tyler, and have what it is a plugin in compiz so yes.
[02:15] <tobias234> you can install classic ubuntu
[02:15] <xangua> !nounity | tyler
[02:16] <urfr332gO> tyler, not sure what else will disappear though.
[02:16] <eggzeck> I'm not really liking unity either.
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> tyler: just install xfce4 and use that as your desktop environment
[02:17] <chown_> i have a partition on my ubuntu that i would like to share at my network, but i also would like to manage permissions for this partition. Also my network have pcs and macs... what should i look for?
[02:17] <tyler> ActionParsnip: will that affect my mac os x lion theme?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> chown_: mount the partition then share the mount point using samba
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> tyler: if you can use it in xfce then it will be fine, I can image you will be able
[02:17] <tobias234> how can i read the logfiles?
[02:17] <chown_> ActionParsnip:  ty, ill look for samba, ty.
[02:18] <urfr332gO> ActionParsnip, no mention of lululubuntu. ;)
[02:19] <riddlebox> hello all, when will the kernel be updated to reflect the power fix for laptops?
[02:19] <urfr332gO> riddlebox, power fix?
[02:20] <questineh> hi guys
[02:21] <riddlebox> urfr332gO, it is supposed to be in kernel 3.0.20 I think
[02:21] <StevenX> Is anyone here willing to help me set up fail2ban. I just don't know what setting I have wrong. The fail2ban-server is running (I can see it under ps -e), but it won't ban anything when I purposely put in a bad password.
[02:21] <riddlebox> StevenX, what are you using fail2ban on?
[02:22] <riddlebox> urfr332gO, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/linux-power-regression-overheating-problem-on-thinkpad-fixed/
[02:22] <StevenX> riddlebox, for my ssh server. I am running the server on port 443, so I made sure to change that in the config file jail.local
[02:24] <urfr332gO> riddlebox, that is from November, I'm hesitant to follow a link that old personally.
[02:26] <riddlebox> urfr332gO, it was the first one I found
[02:27] <riddlebox> I have noticed major issues on my laptop within the last year, I used to get 5 and a half hours or so on my laptop now if I unplug it from a full charge and it will drop down to 50% within minutes
[02:28] <yodaboy22> so how does WINE work?  Do I have to launch WINE before I launch an .exe file?
[02:31] <urfr332gO> riddlebox, the battery problems basically that the manufacturers are not giving out the code to open source, that is the rhetoric I have seen on the channel.
[02:31] <urfr332gO> is*
[02:31] <eggzeck> !classic
[02:31] <eggzeck> !notunity
[02:31] <Lurkin_Lobster> hello ubuntu'ers
[02:31] <riddlebox> urfr332gO,  http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=will+kernel+3.0.20+fix+power+issues&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[02:32] <Lurkin_Lobster> does anyone know how in 11.10 i can make the dock on the side always visible?
[02:32] <Lurkin_Lobster> if there is a way?
[02:33] <gr0gmint> Hi, I have a VPN tunnel made only to traffic data for a specific user... when i tcpdump -i ppp0 i can see data flowing to and from my VPN tunnel, but the clients for the tunneled user can't receive the data (but i can clearly see it is there with tcpdump)... will anyone have a look at my iptables script please?
[02:33] <xangua> Lurkin_Lobster: you can configure the Unity plugin via Compiz Setting Manager
[02:33] <vindav> xangua:  thank you for the suggetion.  I've got Xmarks on all of my browsers, and Firefox isn't crashing anymore.  I'm putting a limit on the add-ons from Mozilla.
[02:34] <vindav> xangua:  Have a great night.  Gotta go here :D
[02:34] <urfr332gO> riddlebox, I think it is aprivate parties kernel tweak I doubt it will be in the ubuntu release and if not will not be supported here, just a heads up.  http://forums.opensuse.org/english/other-forums/news-announcements/tech-news/472243-power-saving-fix-kernels-3-0-20-3-2-5-a.html
[02:34] <Lurkin_Lobster> xangua that is already on my computer, right? i dont have to get anything additional?
[02:34] <chown_> ActionParsnip: ty man, im reading about how to config samba, and its very intuitive, easy commands, well ty. it will save me.
[02:34] <xangua> Lurkin_Lobster: well you have to install Compiz Setting manager
[02:35] <Lurkin_Lobster> oh, ok
[02:35] <Toph2> chown_,,, reading online? do you have a site?
[02:35] <chown_> Toph2: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html
[02:35] <Toph2> chown_,,, thanks
[02:36] <chown_> Toph2: np, its helping me a lot, im a complete newbie at linux tho
[02:36] <xingzhe> hello
[02:36] <ubukou__> hey folks .. i just installed smaba on xubuntu.. i seem to remember that on ubuntu-server i used my computers username and password to access it from my mediabox... is there something i should change to access it, like a smb.conf line?
[02:36] <xim_> I have this old machine with 9.10 on it, but (i presume because support has expired) all the repos are broken.  I need to update ubuntu, but I would like to wait until april for that super LTS coming out.  Is there anyway to temporarily fix my repos to install somethings like git?
[02:36] <Lurkin_Lobster> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion xangua, is this what i am looking for?
[02:36] <ksysk> hi
[02:37] <xangua> Lurkin_Lobster: i said Compiz Setting Manager, you can fintd it in the Software center
[02:37] <Lurkin_Lobster> oh ok
[02:37] <Lurkin_Lobster> thanks again, can you tell im a noob?
[02:37] <Pikkachu> is ppa a subject for here or #launchpad?
[02:38] <urfr332gO> xim_, there is a eol update that would get you to 10.04, you could upgrade to 12.04 then, personally I never upgrade myself though.
[02:38] <ubukou__> Lurkin_Lobster, try ccsm..
[02:38] <urfr332gO> xim_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[02:39] <xim_> you never update?
[02:39] <xim_> when I say update, I mean format ;p
[02:40] <xim_> but this is what I was looking for thanks
[02:40] <urfr332gO> xim_, not sure I understand.....but glad your happy :)
[02:41] <ubukou__> hey folks .. i just installed smaba on xubuntu.. i seem to remember that on ubuntu-server i used my computers username and password to access it from my mediabox... is there something i should change to access it, like a smb.conf line?
[02:41] <urfr332gO> xim_, that link is for upgrading not updating.
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> xim_: i'd just hang with your current release til release day
[02:42] <sgo11> hi, to change umask globally, which file should I edit in ubuntu 11.10? /etc/profile? /etc/bash.bashrc? or any other files? thanks.
[02:43] <chuck_> I am having a problem with pulseaudio/alsa where when I unplug my head phones it switches to the correct connector, but then switches back to the headphone connector
[02:44] <poincare101> Hi everyone. I'm currently dual booting ubuntu and windows 7. Now, my ubuntu install got bricked (update went wrong), so, I want to reinstall, but, I want it to write over my old parition, can ubuntu do that?
[02:44] <chuck_> poincare101: yes
[02:44] <poincare101> chuck_: directly for the instaler?
[02:44] <aboxorg> chuck_, do you have an asus laptop, I have the same issue.
[02:44] <chuck_> poincare101: just do a manual partition and format the correct partition
[02:44] <orangepnut> When I use the Gnome setting when I login to Ubuntu the top bar is this neon blue color and all the text is distorted and unreadable, how do I fix this?
[02:45] <chuck_> aboxorg: nope, its a custom desktop
[02:45] <Gaming4JC> Hey all, I'd like to know if it's possible to run two hard-drives on one computer at the same time. Rather than dual-boot. Then just use a VNC to view my windows box. Possible? :)
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> poincare101: use custom partitioning and set the system partition for formatting and use it ext4 as /
[02:45] <chuck_> poincare101: it'll reinstall grub, but it should auto detect your win7 install
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> poincare101: obviously leave your ntfs partition alone and if you have a different partition for /home then tell the installer to use the partition as ext4 but NOT format it
[02:46] <Gaming4JC> It's the best way I can break my windows habbit, by using Ubuntu all the time, and moving to windows when absolutely nesccary. :P
[02:46] <aboxorg> Gaming4JC, why not just run windows inside a VM (virtualbox?) inside linux. Then you can make snap-shots so you can revert back when you get a virus :P
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> Gaming4JC: you'd need to virtualize one
[02:46] <Gaming4JC> I've done that
[02:46] <Gaming4JC> but it doesn't run certain things
[02:46] <Gaming4JC> e.g. video editing software
[02:46] <Gaming4JC> :/
[02:46] <FloodBot1> Gaming4JC: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:46] <aboxorg> not happen with performance?
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> Gaming4JC: what do you use VNC to achieve? Why do you connect to the system?
[02:46] <poincare101> ActionParsnip: so, it will be able to recover my data?!
[02:47] <poincare101> ActionParsnip: I would love if it could do that
[02:47] <Gaming4JC> ActionParsnip: nothing yet, currently I dual boot. I would like to be able to VNC into another HDD and play on Windows
[02:47] <chuck_> poincare101: if /home is on its own partition
[02:47] <chuck_> which IS recommended
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> poincare101: 1. Yes, boot to liveCD and you can access the data there and copy to a different storage temporarily.   and 2. Why do you NOT have a backup??
[02:47] <aboxorg> I run win7 inside ubuntu and I have access to everything I've tried. I can run wow, grab youtube vid's and convert them. Not happy with performance?
[02:47] <poincare101> chuck_: whoever had that idea needs to be given lots of money
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> Gaming4JC: for the video editting i'm guessing..?
[02:47] <Gaming4JC> aboxorg: and DirectX applications
[02:47] <Gaming4JC> ?
[02:48] <Gaming4JC> ActionParsnip: right
[02:48] <chuck_> Gaming4JC: no you can't run two OSes on the same computer at the same time
[02:48] <chuck_> poincare101: errr? its a pretty common thing to do
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> Gaming4JC: not tried any of the many native video editors in Ubuntu?
[02:48] <Gaming4JC> ActionParsnip: I have, but none of them offer multi-layers + effects that are required
[02:48] <Gaming4JC> e.g. Chroma Key and manual key animation
[02:49] <chuck_> poincare101: wait til you discover you can format /dev/ramX devices ;)
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> Gaming4JC: I see
[02:49] <aboxorg> Not really sure. What does WoW use? I tried that before. It's kinda why I did it at first.
[02:49] <chuck_> aboxorg: what does WoW use for what?
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> aboxorg: you can run WoW very well in wine, its the top rated app in the appdb
[02:49] <Gaming4JC> try running Sony Vegas Movie Studio or Adobe Premier in Wine
[02:49] <Gaming4JC> :p
[02:50] <chuck_> aboxorg: I recommend trying crossover if wine is too difficult of time consuming
[02:50] <chuck_> Gaming, adobe stuff normally works in wine
[02:50] <Gaming4JC> I definately need a windows box on occassion, it's just frustating having to dual-boot or virtually once you've tried VNC :|
[02:50] <chuck_> Gaming, you can always check the wine desktop
[02:51] <chuck_> wine database*
[02:51] <Gaming4JC> yeah I've done that
[02:51] <Gaming4JC> codecs etc are missing during rendering
[02:51] <chuck_> Gaming, crossover database?
[02:51] <Gaming4JC> not tried Crossover
[02:51] <aboxorg> thanks
[02:51] <chuck_> Gaming, crossover is wine but with some non-free stuff added, including some codecs
[02:52] <Gaming4JC> I would prefer to keep my linux distro free of non-free though. Seems wrong. xD
[02:52] <chuck_> Gaming, well if you are installing non-free software in wine, then that kills that idea to start with
[02:52] <xangua> Gaming4JC: then you wouldn't use ubuntu, do you feel dirty now?
[02:53] <xangua> :P
[02:53] <Gaming4JC> xangua: switching next week :]
[02:53] <Gaming4JC> xangua: but shh don't tell #ubuntu :D
[02:53] <chuck_> I am having a problem with pulseaudio/alsa where when I unplug my head phones it switches to the correct connector, but then switches back to the headphone connector
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> chuck_: what make and model system?
[02:55] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys. I have a fresh install of Ubuntu Oneiric and I've managed to boot into it several times except for the last couple of times. It stops on "PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions \n saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned [ OK ]". It's just frozen there.
[02:55] <chuck_> ActionParsnip: its a custom tower with a foxxconn motherboard... its a N10/ICH7 High Def. Intel onboard audio card
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> chuck_: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[02:57] <macele> So I can transfer at 10MB/s with smbclient but only at 4MB/s with ubuntu's cifs kernel implementation. I read that this is due to the kernel not allowing asynchronous transfers. Does anyone have any idea how one might allow async between clients w/o using smbclient or know when the kernel will be patched to allow this?
[02:57] <chuck_> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=647692055976f86e9a581f0bc906defa7ec47ff6
[02:57] <Mayazcherquoi> :(
[02:58] <Gaming4JC> Mayazcherquoi: you may want to try disabling pulse audio, but that sounds like some sort of bug :O
[02:58] <Mayazcherquoi> Gaming4JC: How would I go about that? :S What's the service name?
[02:58] <orangepnut> When I use the Gnome setting at login the menu bar is completely distorted along with all the text, any ideas?
[02:58] <Mayazcherquoi> Restarting the lightdm service does nothing :(
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> orangepnut: is it the same for a new user?
[02:59] <orangepnut> ActionParsnip, I haven't tried
[03:00] <starn> hello, i had to redo my gnu-linux system and kinda lost my CLI apps.. and i am wondering if someone has a really good list of CLI tools and general apps? i only remember byobu and moc..
[03:00] <starn> i do know one tool i'd love if it there is even such a thing.. a cli tool that can control a Teamspeak 3 client on either a local network or on the host machine..
[03:00] <Gaming4JC> Mayazcherquoi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio | http://www.jeffsplace.net/node/12 (I'd lurk in the channel a bit longer though, to be sure)
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> starn: can it be controlled via command line?
[03:00] <Pikkachu> isn't there any automated system for keep tracking of upstream releases so they can be tested and packaged and released?
[03:00] <starn> ActionParsnip: i think it can be controled via telnet.
[03:01] <Mayazcherquoi> Gaming4JC: Okay, thank you :)
[03:01] <orangepnut> ActionParsnip, When I login as a guest and use the Gnome setting everything is still distorted
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> starn: then install openssh-server and you can ssh on and run commands
[03:01] <chuck_> ActionParsnip: I added "snd-hda-intel: model=auto" in the modprobe options, found a post that descirbed a issue kinda like mine where it wouldn't switch to headphones at all... so I thought it be worth a shot to try
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> orangepnut: has the guest account ever been used?
[03:01] <chuck_> ActionParsnip: didn't change anything
[03:01] <orangepnut> ActionParsnip, no it has not
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> orangepnut: is the system fully updated?
[03:02] <Mayazcherquoi> Gaming4JC: But it was working fine before :-/
[03:02] <orangepnut> ActionParsnip, as far as I know yes, though I'm new to the linux world
[03:02] <starn> ActionParsnip: alright i shall try that.. i do know for sure a teamspeak server can be controled via telnet. so maybe it'll work.
[03:02] <Gaming4JC> Mayazcherquoi: right. Disabling it may only work around another existing problem... needs debuging :(
[03:03] <Gaming4JC> Mayazcherquoi: I don't have experience with that particular error :|
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> orangepnut:  in a terminal run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:04] <starn> ActionParsnip: apparently i already have openssh-server.
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> starn: cool, then connect and you can run commands and junk. you are not telnetted to the service so you will need to telnet to localhost for that
[03:06] <Ubuntunub> Hello everyone.  Anyone care to play another round of "I'm an simple minded novice and barely learned how to sort of move around directories via terminal, and need to know how to add rulesets to iptables"?  Cookies promised to those patient enough to babysit me through it.
[03:07] <orlok> Ubuntunub: use gufw
[03:08] <tyler_> which should i use, class GNOME or XFCE?
[03:08] <tyler_> classic GNOME*
[03:08] <xangua> whatever you want
[03:09] <Ubuntunub> orlok:  I'd prefer to learn via the terminal if at all possible.  I have the ruleset that I want to use, just can't seem to figure out *how* I go about editing the current one (which is default and of course blank).
[03:10] <starn> is it true 64bit ubuntu can install 32bit applications now?
[03:10] <orlok> Ubuntun..  probably best to ask google for the specifics then, better teacher than i am.
[03:11] <orangepnut> ActionParsnip, I entered the commands you had said and now the menu bar is still distorted just a different color
[03:11] <zykotick9> starn: "typically" yes (i just hope your not talking about zsnes)
[03:11] <Ubuntunub> orlok:  I just realized that a help option was staring me in the face.  Thumbing through it now.  :)
[03:12]  * Gaming4JC still thinks it is possible to mount a drive and use VNC... O_o
[03:12] <Gaming4JC> Assuming I have two separate hard drives, is it not possible to mount one on linux and then use a VNC viewer on it? :P
[03:13] <Mayazcherquoi> :'(
[03:14] <urfr332gO> Gaming4JC, if you don't just install as a dual boot you will not get the the full use.
[03:14] <Mayazcherquoi> Grr, screw this. Time for a reinstall.
[03:14] <starn> zykotick9: no.. i use an emulator on my phone for snes games.
[03:15] <urfr332gO> Gaming4JC, what I mean and use it as a reular OS.
[03:15] <urfr332gO> regular*
[03:15] <Gaming4JC> urfr332gO: I only want to use it from time to time. For video editing...
[03:15] <Gaming4JC> seems possible, I know it can be done remotely
[03:15] <urfr332gO> Gaming4JC, this is ubuntu support not waht if.
[03:15] <Roasted> If I'm setting up a new raid array, what's better to go with? MBR or GUID?
[03:15] <urfr332gO> what*
[03:17] <chuck_> ActionParsnip: you have any ideas?
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> chuck_: my sound troubleshooting abilities are low
[03:21] <mver> Are we all waiting for someone to put a topic forward?
[03:21] <skypce> d
[03:21] <Roasted> Question - what can I do about my resolution if I set it to something my monitor does not support? I just get no input now.
[03:24] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip: I was at least able to connect the backup system to the desktop from laptop and do a backup via ssh, instead of Samba
[03:24] <bjrohan> still can't get nautilus to connect
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: how did you set the res?
[03:27] <R33p3r> hello
[03:27] <tintoy> hi everyone, can anyone help me  how to rsync to a remote server using different port
[03:27] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, system settings, display
[03:29] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip: Not sure what I did (brute force) but I got my computers to connect via SSH, in nautilus. How do I make sure Nautilus connects every time it opens?
[03:29] <xauth> tintoy: if you rsync over ssh, you could configure ssh to use a different port.
[03:30] <martian> tintoy: an example that I think may work: rsync -rav ./somedirectory martian@server.com:12345/home/martian/
[03:30] <Ubuntunub> Do I have to use sudo anytime I want to use nano to edit a file?
[03:31] <tintoy> xauth:this is my case, I want to pull somefiles from a remote server using port 2300
[03:31] <zykotick9> Ubuntunub: only if it's a system file
[03:31] <martian> Ubuntunub: only if it is a system file. If it's in your home directory you shouldn't (have to)
[03:31] <tintoy> martian:this is my case, I want to pull somefiles from a remote server using port 2300
[03:31] <Ubuntunub> It's iptables.rules -- so I assume it would fall under the system files restriction.  :)
[03:31] <Ubuntunub> Thanks.
[03:31] <martian> tintoy: well then based on the example I posted you should be able to; just swap the second and third parameter and change the port, path, user, and host
[03:32] <tintoy> martian:I will post my command check if it is correct
[03:34] <tintoy> martian:rsync -av rsync://root@www.trendy.org:2300/var/www/inv2010/* /var/www/main/
[03:34] <tintoy> martian:rsync: server sent "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.8p1 Debian-7ubuntu1" rather than greeting
[03:34] <tintoy> rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1524) [Receiver=3.0.7]
[03:35] <tintoy> martian: that error has been encountered after such command
[03:36] <marcosroriz> Hi guys. I'm still using ubuntu natty (11.04), the main reason is because I found the complete lib transition (libgtk2 -> libgtk3) in oneiric too buggy. I was wondering what is the current 'status' of oneiric, is it buggy? Is gnome 3 currently more 'customizable'?
[03:36] <linocisco> is there anyone who could explain this "http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html" to me?
[03:38] <Pikkachu> marcosroriz: I was annoyed by unity at natty and oneiric but I decided to reinstall from scratch after several years...now I'm just trying things out...I'm giving unity a chance, been doing a few customizations... it's not annoyingly buggy from my experience
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> marcosroriz: its got a bit better, what you think may be different to what I see as ok. Have you maybe tried a different DE...
[03:38] <klenwell> Hi. Has anyone here successfully installed the ADT (Android Dev Tool) plugin for Eclipse on Ubuntu 11.10? I'm having some trouble.
[03:38] <marcosroriz> I kinda like unity in natty, because gnome2 is way stable and customizable than gnome 3.
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> marcosroriz: Natty is fully supported til October so I wouldn't worry a lot
[03:39] <Pikkachu> marcosroriz: customizations are sometimes dumb I think
[03:39] <martian> tintoy: try getting rid of the "rsync://"
[03:39] <marcosroriz> ActionParsnip, thanks :D
[03:40] <marcosroriz> Pikkachu, yeah, in fact I've been using (gnu/)linux for > 6 years and for the first time I only changed the wallpaper
[03:40] <marcosroriz> Really liked the default 'look' of ubuntu natty
[03:40] <sgo11> how to change umask for all users? set it in /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc or any other files? thanks.
[03:41] <martian> marcosroriz: ditto. Never been more pleased with a default theme.
[03:41] <richard_> change it in /etc/skel/.profile
[03:42] <marcosroriz> :)
[03:43] <linocisco>  is there anyone who could explain this "http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html" to me?
[03:43] <Pikkachu> martian: sorry are you named after the martian modem driver?
[03:43] <martian> Pikkachu: haha afraid not
[03:45] <Pikkachu> martian, marcosroriz: default background is buggy though... I like setting the login screen background the same as my user...but there are duplicated references: the locked screen background still keeps as the original one of login screen or such
[03:45] <Pikkachu> martian: ah ok nevermind
[03:46] <marcosroriz> I'm cool with the gdm bg (using natty here). Used few times lightdm.
[03:46] <linocisco>  is there anyone who could explain this "http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html" to me?
[03:47] <Pikkachu> marcosroriz: I used to change bg and theme for gdm, now I need to deal with this lightdm...
[03:47] <marcosroriz> oh well, I'll probably change when precise launch
[03:48] <Pikkachu> marcosroriz: when precise launch?
[03:48] <marcosroriz> 12.04
[03:48] <roger> hello
[03:48] <marcosroriz> someday of april (this year)
[03:49] <chipotle> hi, i am trying to setup ubuntu, and i have 5 hdd's installed. i would like to use the 750gb drive like this: partition 1: 100gb / ext3, partition 2: 100gb ntfs for windows 7 dual boot and the rest for /home. then the rest of the drives, i want to use to store media on them (this is a file server)
[03:49] <chipotle> so what should i do?
[03:50] <urfr332gO> chipotle, I would put wundows first on the drive.
[03:50] <Pikkachu> marcosroriz: ah you mean you'll just wait 12.04 for customizing it? I see
[03:50] <chipotle> should i partition the other drives later?
[03:50] <urfr332gO> windows*
[03:50] <chipotle> so the first partition ntfs? the second ext3 and in the / position?
[03:50] <marcosroriz> Pikkachu, not only that but because until there gnome 3 will have more tools to customize and be more stable
[03:50] <urfr332gO> chipotle, any reason for ext3
[03:51] <Pikkachu> marcosroriz: sounds nice... I just hope it doesn't mess with dist-upgraters from oneiric
[03:51] <chipotle> urfr332gO: well, what are you recommending?
[03:51] <marcosroriz> :)
[03:51] <urfr332gO> chipotle, ext3 is okay the default is ext4 in ubuntu
[03:52] <orlok> I'm trying to create a suid root copy of bash under ubuntu
[03:52] <orlok> .. its not working, even after i remounted / without nosuid
[03:52] <chipotle> urfr332gO: well, the point was so windows could view the partition and i don't know if it can read+write ext4, but it can ext3
[03:52] <orlok> Also, with nosuid, how does su work?
[03:52] <Jordan_U> orlok: Making a setuid root copy of bash sounds like an absolutely *terrible* idea.
[03:53] <Pikkachu> chipotle: it can't read linux partitions
[03:53] <urfr332gO> chipotle, on this channel and in general a shared ntfs is preferred.
[03:53] <orlok> Jordan_U: i know, its to test whether a security auditing package will pick it up.
[03:53] <linocisco>  is there anyone who could explain this "http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html" to me?
[03:53] <chipotle> Pikkachu: it can with http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:53] <Pikkachu> chipotle: what do you mean what should you do? you should implement what you just described, no?
[03:53] <Jordan_U> orlok: OK. You had me concerned there for a moment :)
[03:53] <orlok> Jordan_U: However, the fact that i cant actually do it has me confused now. Also, how the hell DOES su work with a partition mounted nosuid
[03:54] <chipotle> urfr332gO: so, should i just partition the one drive right now, the 750gb and then come back to the four other drives at a later date?
[03:54] <roger> simba
[03:54] <linocisco>  is there anyone who could explain this "http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html" to me?
[03:54] <chipotle> meaning, once i have ubuntu running
[03:54] <chipotle> can i continue /home on several different drives if one runs out of space...
[03:54] <orlok> Jordan_U: I was thinking it would be a 30 second test
[03:54] <Pikkachu> chipotle: cool, is it reliable? last time I checked all apps supposed to do that looked dumb
[03:54] <chipotle> Pikkachu: yeah, i have heard good things
[03:54] <orlok> chipotle: yeah, many ways of doing it
[03:54] <Jordan_U> orlok: How did you mount the partition as nosuid?
[03:55] <orlok> Jordan_U: installed ubuntu.
[03:55] <chipotle> orlok: what do you recommend? i ahve two 3TB drives that i want to also use as /home, can i do that in the installer?
[03:55] <urfr332gO> chipotle, all I would recommend is windows first on any of the drives it is easier to repair this way, and a shred ntfs wherever you want and the ubuntu where ever you want.
[03:55] <urfr332gO> shared*
[03:56] <orlok> chipotle: i dont remember sorry, but probably as a mirror
[03:56] <orlok> Jordan_U: ubuntu mounted it nosuid by default
[03:56] <Pikkachu> chipotle: do you want to mount different partitions at the same /home mounting point? @@
[03:56] <chipotle> well, can i have multiple drives mount point be /home ?
[03:57] <Jordan_U> orlok: Why do you think that?
[03:57] <chipotle> Pikkachu: well, i have 5TB of ~/Movies, so preferably, when i run out on my one 3TB drive, the second 3TB drive can pick right up where i left off
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: you could use lvms and make one 'drive' from the 2 combined
[03:57] <Pikkachu> chipotle: I've never heard of it
[03:57] <orlok> Jordan_U: Looking at the mounted filesystems.
[03:57] <administrator> hello
[03:57] <Jordan_U> orlok: Can you pastebin the exact command and output that leads you to believe this?
[03:57] <Guest76807> ?
[03:58] <Pikkachu> ActionParsnip: cool
[03:58] <orlok> Jordan_U: No, since i remounted / nosuid since then
[03:58] <orlok> Jordan_U: However my 4755 chmodded copy of bash owned by root/root still doesnt fire off as root!
[03:58] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: oh, i'd prefer not use LVM
[03:58] <chipotle> so what should i select as the mount point for the other hard drives, ActionParsnip ?
[03:58] <Pikkachu> ActionParsnip, chipotle may also consider just using ntfs and symlinks
[03:58] <L3top> raid.
[03:59] <Jordan_U> orlok: You are mistaken about Ubuntu mounting / as nosuid by default.
[03:59] <chipotle> do i need to select a mount point?
[03:59] <orlok> Jordan_U: Ok. I am running 10.04 lts if it makes a difference, anyway.. but it doesnt explain my issues running a suid copy of bash
[03:59] <Pikkachu> chipotle: what filesystem will they be?
[04:00] <administrator_> ?
[04:00] <chipotle> how come i can't select an ntfs under "use as" in the installer?
[04:00] <Jordan_U> orlok: What is the output of "ls -l /bin/bash" ?
[04:00] <chipotle> Pikkachu: ext3
[04:00] <orlok> Jordan_U: /bin/bash or my suid copy?
[04:00] <Jordan_U> orlok: Your suid copy.
[04:01] <orlok> Jordan_U: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 818232 2012-02-24 10:17 /bin/dodgybash
[04:01] <orlok> 4755 and root.root
[04:02] <Jordan_U> orlok: What is the output of "/bin/dodgybash -c whoami"?
[04:02] <Pikkachu> chipotle: stuff are usually mounted in /media/desired_name but you can use any place you want
[04:02] <orlok> Jordan_U: myusername
[04:02] <chipotle> Pikkachu: oh, so i can name the mount point whatever i want?
[04:02] <Pikkachu> chipotle: yes
[04:02] <chipotle> Pikkachu: how come i don't have the ntfs option in the installer?
[04:03] <chipotle> how can i install win7 if i don't have an ntfs partition as the first partition
[04:04] <L3top> you will want to install windows before ubuntu.
[04:04] <martian> chipotle: you may want to install win7 first as if you install it second it will likely overwrite grub
[04:04] <chipotle> oh, really?
[04:04] <chipotle> i didn't know that
[04:04] <chipotle> martian: thanks :)
[04:04] <L3top> oh ches
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: the NTFS doesn't have to be the first partition
[04:05] <Pikkachu> chipotle: in my case, I have a reiserfs which is / and two ntfs partitions, one is windows and the other a data partition. For those I'm using "udisks --mount /dev/sdaX" when logging in (session apps), that command will create a /media/mount_point_according_to_ntfs_partition_label_dynamically
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: just install and leave unpartitioned space, you can then install ubuntu to the empty space
[04:05] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: okay
[04:05] <L3top> but it does want first crack at the mbr
[04:06] <Pikkachu> chipotle: 11.10 installer? not sure but the advanced option gives you access to a partition manager which isn't really that hard to go through
[04:06] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: what would you recommend, i have a 500GB HDD, and two 3TB drives
[04:06] <chipotle> how would you recommend i install ubuntu on them (sans the 100GB i'll leave for windows7)
[04:07] <Jordan_U> orlok: Seems like bash may have a feature of some sort to try to protect stupid users. Doing the same with /bin/dash works as expected.
[04:07] <jardineworks> has anyone here done an install on the Alenware m17x?
[04:07] <Jordan_U> orlok: And to be clear, I am (as you should be) only doing this in a virtual machine. (In fact, I'm doing it in a VM using a LiveCD image only).
[04:08] <jardineworks> I'm curious how much success was had .. and with which version
[04:08] <chipotle> Pikkachu: is gparted on the install disc?
[04:09] <linocisco> how to disable sleeping monitor screen on server version if there is no X windows?
[04:09] <Pikkachu> chipotle: are you taking about 11.10? it uses some other app but gparted is yet available in the repos
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: look into lvms, if you want to keep them seperate, you can mount them at boot and have symlinks pointing to the mount points. This will reduce data loss if a drive dies (less to resore from backup)
[04:09] <chipotle> Pikkachu: yes 11.10
[04:10] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: i did LVM once and it was a disaster
[04:10] <probo> I just swapped my motherboard and need to install the new drivers, I'm booted in a rescue terminal, how do I tell ubuntu to grab whatever drivers it needs?
[04:10] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: i can't have an easy way to install a 100GB / and the rest on /home  (and a swap partition)?
[04:10] <Pikkachu> chipotle: windows does not give a damn about other oses you may be using and overwrites MBR. So install windows first then boot from live cd, or install it later then reinstalls grub onto the MBR
[04:10] <chipotle> then the second 3TB drive can be /media
[04:11] <Jordan_U> probo: The only drivers which aren't automatically detected and configured at boot would be proprietary drivers (graphics card or possibly wireless card).
[04:11] <Jordan_U> probo: What happens when you try to boot normally?
[04:11] <probo> Jordan_U: The new mobo has a different ethernet card, it works fine from the install cd but doesn't work when booted from my hard drive.
[04:12] <probo> So I don't get network when I boot normaly.
[04:12] <Pikkachu> chipotle: /media/something_within_it rather
[04:12] <chipotle> Pikkachu: i'm using gparted first to setup the partition scheme
[04:12] <Jordan_U> probo: That's very odd. What is the output of "ifconfig" from the installed system?
[04:13] <Pikkachu> chipotle: from the livecd? why you didn't go though the normal steps
[04:13] <linocisco> how to ip route add according to split access in http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html ?
[04:13] <chipotle> Pikkachu: i like gparted
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: 100Gb for / is a LOT, you probably won't even need 20Gb. My desktop install is little over 4Gb
[04:13] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: okay, so if i do 20GB for /, do i need to make any other partitions besides home?
[04:13] <martian> chipotle: I think you would be better off just runnign the windoze installer first, as win7 likes to create its own goofy 100mb partition for some thing or another
[04:13] <Jordan_U> orlok: You might ask about it in #bash. But if you do, please make sure to immediately include that you are doing this for a test and not actually doing it on a production machine.
[04:13] <probo> Jordan_U: It doesn't show eth1 unless I do ifconfig -a, that gives me interrupt code 17, so then I up it and I get some other interrupt code.
[04:14] <Pikkachu> chipotle: ok so what are your disk sizes and how much you want for windows and linux? how much ram?
[04:14] <orlok> Jordan_U: I'd say "I'm the worlds most incompitent script kiddie".. but then, theres no way thats true.
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: should be ok with those 3 :)
[04:15] <chipotle> third being the unformatted partition for windows 7?
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: Win7, /, swap, /home  = 4 partitions
[04:15] <chipotle> how much swap do you recommend?
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: how much RAM do you have?
[04:16] <chipotle> 8gb
[04:16] <Pikkachu> depends on ram as I asked
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: do you need hibernate / suspend?
[04:16] <chipotle> um, no, i'll just turn off my monitor
[04:16] <chipotle> this will be a fileserver
[04:16] <Pikkachu> ActionParsnip: suspend does not require dumping
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: could probably get away with zero then, otherwise 9Gb swap will be fine
[04:16] <Ubuntunub> orlok:  No, you can't be.  I can't even get new rules for iptables to save right, lol.
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> Pikkachu: I use it as a generic term, I know its different :)
[04:17] <Pikkachu> chipotle: how much you're planning for win7?
[04:17] <Pikkachu> ActionParsnip: ok
[04:17] <probo> Jordan_U: Any ideas?
[04:18] <chipotle> Pikkachu: 100gb, just to be safe
[04:18] <Pikkachu> chipotle: given that you have so much space, I'd recommend 100GB ã.ã
[04:18] <Pikkachu> chipotle: yay lulz
[04:19] <Pikkachu> windows goes to mc donalds every day and gets fatter and fatter over time
[04:20] <Jordan_U> probo: Check the output of "dmesg" to see if that clarifies the problem. But other than that I don't know.
[04:22] <chipotle> Pikkachu: okay and now for the other 3TB drive, should i just format it to ext3 and then the mount point /media/movies ?
[04:22] <chipotle> and then i can install ubuntu on my 15 GB partition that will be at /
[04:23] <probo> Jordan_U: Just says it couldn't find an ipv6 router, huh. I just edited the network conf to change teh eth device from 0 to 1. We'll see if that makes a difference
[04:23] <probo> since eth0 isn't present, just eth1
[04:23] <Pikkachu> chipotle: I'd use ext4 or reiserfs but if you really want to try out reading it through windows without fear of losing data, sure
[04:23] <probo> Jordan_U: Boom! Came right up.
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: if you use ext3 instead of ext4, you can use partimage to take backups :)
[04:24] <Pikkachu> chipotle: why don't you just format it as ntfs instead?
[04:25] <L3top> If it is just for media I would choose xfs.
[04:25] <Ian-Moone> I am running Ubuntu LTS, and often times I will click on something, and capslock and scroll lock will flash and the computer will lock up. What do I do here, and how do I prevent it?
[04:26] <Ian-Moone> has anyone else had my problem, or is there something I just did massively wrong?
[04:26] <chipotle> Pikkachu: it won't let me save the partition because i am using more blocks than msdos partitions allow
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> Pikkachu: if the files are to be shared with samba, ntfs causes all kinds of annoyance
[04:27] <Raj84> Any one want pvt chat
[04:27] <L3top> Ian-Moone: What else do you have attached to USB?
[04:27] <chipotle> which partition table should i use then if not msdos (Default)?
[04:27] <Ian-Moone> I have a WD USB3.0 external hard drive
[04:27] <Ian-Moone> ..... not anymore.
[04:28] <chipotle> under "select new partition type table" i can choose msdos, aix, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, pc92, sun, loop
[04:28] <L3top> Does the computer lock up, or just the input devices?
[04:28] <chipotle> what will let me save large 3TB drive partition schemes?
[04:28] <Ian-Moone> Just input devices.
[04:28] <Raj84> Who like hot ant sex pvt me
[04:28] <zykotick9> chipotle: gpt i believe (but verify before choosing)
[04:28] <Ian-Moone> Actually, my keyboard is PS/2
[04:28] <Vasistha> Ian-Moone: I missed your problem description, but I know that I have had issues with certain usb ports not getting enough power, and that once caused me to think a drive was dying, when the thing was just malfunctioning due to not getting enough power
[04:28] <pnorman> I need to install millstone (for node.js) which depends on having sqlite3 >2.0.16 and <2.1.0, how do I install a specific version with apt-get?
[04:28] <chipotle> ah
[04:28] <pangolin> !guidelines > Raj84
[04:29] <Vasistha> pnorman: I think like this: apt-get millstone =2.0.16
[04:29] <Vasistha> pnorman: you'll need to figure out the specific version you want. Or you can just download the .deb and dpkg -i
[04:29] <pnorman> Vasistha: no .deb that I can find for millstone
[04:30] <Vasistha> pnorman: then how do you expect apt-get to find it? :)
[04:30] <Noobie-LJ> Can anyone help me with sound issues?
[04:30] <pnorman> Vasistha: I'm installing sqlite3 through apt-get for millstone
[04:30] <xauth> pnorman: apt-cache policy sqlite3
[04:30] <L3top> Ian-Moone: is it just a normal install, or are you running something "unusual" on it? Something which might be scanning USB... say for media or something.
[04:30] <Ian-Moone> @Vasistha: I will occasionally click on something (a link, a symlink, a binary, anything, but it can't just be nothing) and everything will continue running, but the keyboard and mouse don't respond. The keyboards scroll lock and caps lock keys flash.
[04:31] <xauth> pnorman: then select your version and install with apt-get install sqlite3=2.0.16
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> Ian-Moone: have you ran a Memtest from Grub?
[04:31] <L3top> good question ActionParsnip
[04:31] <Ian-Moone> no.
[04:31] <Vasistha> Ian-Moone: oh that's weird. does the keyboard ever resume functioning?
[04:31] <pnorman> xauth: It's not finding that version - how do I see what versions are available?
[04:31] <Ian-Moone> I usually wait 5 minutes, then reset the system.
[04:31] <xauth> pnorman: apt-cache policy sqlite3
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> Ian-Moone: run one, hold shift at boot and select memtest, run it for about 10-15 mins, if you see ANY red some or all of the ram is bad
[04:32] <lwizardl> I have a couple of zip files I need to check and match md5sum's from is there an application that i can select the file, tell it was is expected to be the md5 hash and then have it tell me if it matches or not
[04:32] <Ian-Moone> I have never gotten response within those 5 minuts.
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> Ian-Moone: and you will need to start removing memory sticks till you get a clean test
[04:32] <Vasistha> Ian-Moone: can you ssh into the box when it is hanging like that?
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> lwizardl: if you run:  md5sum -c filename   it will test the hashes of the files in the filename file
[04:33] <Ian-Moone> I don't know. I've had trouble with network connections. I could connect to an LAN IRC server, but that's all I've done successfully.
[04:34] <xauth> pnorman: But sqlite3 over here is already at 3.7.3 in stable debian.
[04:34] <Ian-Moone> It's something wrong with me (too little experience), not the computer or OS installation with my last.
[04:34] <Ian-Moone> but I will run the memtest.
[04:34] <Ian-Moone> Which one do I run? there are two.
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> Ian-Moone: the one thats not serial console
[04:34] <Ian-Moone> okay. thanks.
[04:35] <xauth> pnorman: there's also an old sqlite-2.8.17, but nothing near as old as 2.0.16.
[04:36] <Ian-Moone> I dual boot Windows, and I've never had a RAM problem in Windows, but there's a reason I'm in linux.
[04:37] <Ian-Moone> Although: after booting into windows, I must turn off the PSU, discharge the capacitors, and wait about a minute before booting linux, otherwise the internet connection problems I get in windows carry over.
[04:38] <adamus> #
[04:39] <adamus> 3
[04:39] <Ian-Moone> @Vasistha: I don't know how to ssh into it, but running programs continue. Minecraft did hang when it happened once while I was playing, but everything else kept going.
[04:41] <draginx> why do i get the following error http://pastie.org/private/t62lkmqzuk0xyze52duxg when Im following the http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html guide
[04:48]  * tMH is gone. nsf
[04:49] <haylo> vi/join #linux
[04:50] <urfr332gO> haylo ##linux
[04:51] <haylo> yeah it actually auto added that xtra #   but thanks :) any other channel suggestions? i just like to learn
[04:54] <possible1994> I'm trying to align my SSD paritions so that they correctly utilize their block size when writing and erasing, with Gparted. How do I do this?
[04:57] <possible1994> Someone please help me properly align my SSD before installing Ubuntu.
[04:57] <abuss> ok so idk anything about LINUX or UBUNTU..so where should i start learning or what should i start learning about???
[04:58] <Vasistha> abuss: have you installed it?
[04:59] <abuss> yes..ubuntu 11.10
[04:59] <Vasistha> possible1994: I have never heard of such a thing, are you sure it hasn't automatically set itself up for you?
[04:59] <CFHowlett> abuss   read FCM, choose a project, start learning...  http://fullcirclemagazine.org/
[05:00] <possible1994> Vasistha:  Block size alignment optimizes the use of blocks by preventing using, say, 1.0001 blocks (two blocks) to store data
[05:01] <abuss> CFHowlett Thank you, appreciate it so much
[05:01] <CFHowlett> abuss   be safe/have fun
[05:01] <Vasistha> possible1994: oh ... hmm, are you trying to install ubuntu on a machine that has windows, and you need to shrink the windows partition?
[05:02] <possible1994> Vasistha: No, I use ubuntu exclusively. I just want to optimize my SSD.
[05:02] <abuss> absolutely thanks
[05:03] <Vasistha> possible1994: well.. if a file is too big to fit into one block then it is going to have to use two
[05:03] <jadoe> I managed to brake automatic asking for root password somehow. When I click in install in the Software Center, nothing happens. When I launch Synaptic without (gk)sudo, nothing happens. Only manually starting with (gk)sudo works. How do I fix that?
[05:04] <possible1994> Vasistha:  Just google it
[05:05] <Vasistha> possible1994: sorry I responded, I don't know how to help with your issue.
[05:07] <abuss> question..why LINUX??
[05:07] <Antares> Why linux what?
[05:07] <abuss> why use LINUX?
[05:07] <Antares> Free?
[05:08] <jadoe> because ms-dos sucks
[05:08] <tabern> what
[05:08] <linocisco> how to ip route add according to split access in http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html ?
[05:08] <abuss> lol what else?
[05:08] <mosno> abuss, why uppercase "Linux"?
[05:08] <linocisco> how to ip route add according to split access in http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html ?
[05:08] <zykotick9> jadoe: (i don't have any suggestions for your actual issue) but, using sudo with GUI apps can lead to bad things happening (perhaps the situation your in?), always use gksudo with GUI apps.
[05:08] <abuss> idk
[05:08] <Antares> Why use Windows?
[05:09] <linocisco> how to ip route add according to split access in http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html ?
[05:09] <tabern> because its over
[05:09] <abuss> i guess thats the real question...
[05:09] <jadoe> zykotick9: (1) I use gksudo with gui aps. (2) I used neither manually until it broke.
[05:10] <zykotick9> !ot | abuss that's not an ubuntu support question
[05:10] <zykotick9> jadoe: ok, just seem your post suggested you might have been using sudo with U.S.C.
[05:11] <abuss> sorry about that, your welcome!
[05:13] <goathouse774> As it stands, I can't confidently compile and run a program on Linux.  However, I want to begin the - I assume - long process of doing what I originally set out to do with it - which is to hook my small business up with a voip solution on a linux computer.  As the knowledgeable ones, please point me toward the good, and away from the bad.
[05:14] <draginx> Warning: ldap_connect(): Could not create session handle: Bad parameter to an ldap routine <— what could be causing this?
[05:16] <tintoy> Hi anyone helps, I am using apache2 in ubuntu 10.04, When I access it at the browser it always saying "You have chosen to open which is a: PHTML file". what does this mean I supposed to see my hompage instead?
[05:17] <tintoy> I'm using firefox
[05:17] <zykotick9> goathouse774: for a buiness VOIP solution you should certainly be looking at asterisk (not somthing i've personally used, but it's certainly the defacto gnu/linux standard for enterprise quality voip)
[05:21] <linocisco> hi
[05:21] <goathouse774> zykotick9:  thanks
[05:22] <L3top> asterisk is def the direction you want to go
[05:23] <erik32533> has anyone noticed lately firefox 11 has become not stable at times
[05:25] <deserteag> hello folks
[05:25] <goathouse774> how difficult is asterisk to get set up?  let's place my aptitude at the "game but clearly overreaching" level and answer my subjective question in that light.
[05:25] <Antares> hi
[05:25] <CFHowlett> Antares   greetings
[05:25] <CFHowlett> deserteag   greetings
[05:25] <deserteag> anyone know where to start with a game whose audio stutters?
[05:25] <deserteag> why thank you :)
[05:25] <zykotick9> goathouse774: i get the distinct impress, it's not easy ;)  good luck.
[05:25] <erik32533> has anyone had firefox 11 freezing up
[05:26] <Antares> Which game?
[05:26] <deserteag> true combat
[05:26] <zykotick9> s/impress/impression/
[05:26] <frustro> hey all, I am working remotle on a system and hosed X, I have SSH, I tried to copy the backup of xorg.conf but when I start X it shows PID of failsafe mode.  how to get around that?
[05:26] <deserteag> it's a wolfstein mod
[05:26] <Antares> Ah, I remember that.
[05:26] <Antares> Does it use ALSA for sound?
[05:26] <Mayazcherquoi> So, guys (& gals). my touchpad driver stopped working (it was working before logon, and for about 15 seconds after). How do I get it working again? :-/
[05:26] <deserteag> no clue, the furthest i've gone is using aoss
[05:26] <deserteag> but now it just stutters
[05:27] <nathan28> frustro: X configures automagically if you use the free video drivers
[05:27] <nathan28> frustro: do you have proprietary drivers installed?
[05:28] <van7hu> hi everyone
[05:28] <deserteag> hey
[05:28] <CFHowlett> van7hu   greetings
[05:28] <bjrohan> Does anyone have experience with the ZyXel PK5000Z modem/router? I am trying to figure out how to port forward incoming port 23 to port 22 of a computer on the network
[05:28] <goathouse774> #asterisk wants me to identify myself.  how do i do that?
[05:29] <zykotick9> !register | goathouse774
[05:29] <frustro> nathan28, not anymore...I did a binary install of nvidia (neve had problem before) but it failed into 640x480, so I uninstalled nvidia with nvidia-uninstall
[05:29] <ingcomplau> msg Username register
[05:29] <frustro> rebooted, got xfailsafemode pid's. rebooted SSH in, killed gdm, copied backup of xorg.conf rebooted and still get failsafe on x
[05:30] <chilicuil> hi there, I'm looking for someone who could share its ~/.local/share/adium/message-styles file, it's from empathy in ubuntu 11.10 I've just delet it by accident xD
[05:30] <ingcomplau> list
[05:30] <napster> I don't like to use thunderbird. Can someone suggest me a good Gmail notifier which calmly stays in the notification area and get me notifications about new mails? :)
[05:30] <CFHowlett> napster   search software center gmail and you'll see plenty
[05:31] <ingcomplau> whois ingcomplau
[05:31] <napster> CFHowlett: ok
[05:31] <rghose> hi, broadcom wifi is not working on ubuntu 11.10... I can see the networks but cannot create or connect to ad-hoc networks... any help?
[05:32] <tallnerd1985> Sup everyone
[05:33] <frustro> nathan28, ooh, I think i know, nvidia disabled the neauvo (sp) with a conf file...I need to delete that to reenable the free driver.
[05:33] <frustro> crap where are the nvidia installer logs..
[05:34] <tallnerd1985> Anybody here discussing the Ubuntu on Android?
[05:34] <Antares> rghose, I had the same problem. Did you google the name of your laptop + ubuntu + wifi driver? That's how I was able to get mine working. :P
[05:34] <Antares> The default driver did not work for me.
[05:34] <CFHowlett> rghose let's ID your wifi card - run in terminal lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 and paste
[05:34] <zykotick9> tallnerd1985: try #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-phone - be aware it doesn't exist yet
[05:35] <frustro> lol @ zykotick9 sure it does, it's just not supported yet
[05:35] <tallnerd1985> Thanks, I am trying to get more info to see if my work on Webtop is the same as Ubuntu on Android
[05:38] <bellman> when is support for hardy heron endin
[05:38] <CFHowlett> !hardy|bellman
[05:38] <frustro> tallnerd1985, check on xda-developers
[05:38] <bellman> !eol
[05:39] <chilicuil> hi there, I'm looking for someone who could share its ~/.local/share/adium/message-styles file, it's from empathy in ubuntu 11.10 I've just delet it by accident xD
[05:39] <sgo11> chrome just crashed my X ...
[05:39] <tallnerd1985> frusto - I would probably get more info on the subject from a Cosmopolitan magazine
[05:39] <tallnerd1985> Opposed to XDA :-)
[05:39] <CFHowlett> chilicuil   logout/login, start empathy and they'll rebuild
[05:40] <frustro> funny, I have ubuntu on my HD2, my touchpad and my nook-tablet.  hmm
[05:40] <frustro> guess they were all wrong and I'm crazy.
[05:40] <anand> hello
[05:40] <CFHowlett> anand   greetings
[05:41] <anand> i need help regarding wireless driver
[05:41] <tallnerd1985> I have it on my Galaxy Nexus and Xoom as chroot with VNC but I am trying to find out if they are using a X server port to Android or Way land
[05:41] <CFHowlett> anand   broadcom?
[05:42] <chilicuil> CFHowlett: ok, got it ;), it's just than I just wanted to look at it from my windows machine
[05:42] <Mayazcherquoi> So, guys (& gals). my touchpad driver stopped working (it was working before logon, and for about 15 seconds after). How do I get it working again? :-/
[05:43] <afsal> is possible to install ubuntu base system from livecd ???
[05:43] <CFHowlett> !mini|afsal
[05:44] <CFHowlett> afsal   pretty sure it's not as the process is automated...mini or alternate install give you more choice
[05:44] <frustro> tallnerd1985, gotcha, There is a guy out there, AdamOutler I think he's on twitter, great resource for android ubuntu.  shoot him a message.  I think his gmail is also in his xda sig.
[05:44] <afsal> ubottu: minimal cd need internet connection while installation????
[05:45] <urfr332gO> afsal, yes
[05:45] <chilicuil> afsal: yep, and it will use it a lot =)
[05:45] <CFHowlett> afsal   I think so ... otherwise how would you get packages...
[05:45] <tallnerd1985> frustro - thanks mang
[05:45] <rattatoue> afsal: minimal is the very bare bones, but as far as getting packages etc it will download those during the install from the internet. Oh Btw ubottu is a bot
[05:46] <afsal> rattatoue: what is bot??
[05:47] <rattatoue> afsal: means its not a real person. Just a thing that will respond whatever its programmed too
[05:47] <rattatoue> afsal: for example
[05:47] <rattatoue> !question
[05:47] <zykotick9> afsal: bot is short for robot
[05:47] <afsal> ubottu: !question
[05:48] <afsal> Haaa is nice......:-)
[05:48] <bjrohan> can someone help with port forwarding on a DSL router
[05:49] <linocisco>  How can I disable eth0 or eth1 permanently down?
[05:49] <rattatoue> bjrohan: what router?
[05:49] <linocisco>  How can I disable eth0 or eth1 permanently down?
[05:49] <afsal> rattatoue: this is a good one...
[05:49] <frustro> linocisco, clli or gui?
[05:49] <bjrohan> I have a ZyXel PK5000s
[05:49] <linocisco> cli
[05:49] <Mayazcherquoi> How do I reinstall my touchpad drivers?
[05:49] <linocisco> frustro, CLI on server
[05:51] <frustro> linocisco, looking, I think it's in /etc/network/interfaces see if int ethX has a line that says auto
[05:51] <goddard> heya
[05:51] <bjrohan> rattatoue: The port forwarding on my Qwest dsl router is odd. I have multiple computers connected, and I want to access the ssh port on 2 of them remotely. I have the default computer set up. I wish to have incoming port 23 forwarded to port 22 of the other computer
[05:52] <rattatoue> bjrohan: did you look at portforward.com? you can look up specifically your router and it tells you how to configure that
[05:52] <linocisco> frustro, yes I found it is auto
[05:52] <bjrohan> rattatoue: will do
[05:52] <linocisco> frustro, but I disabled it with #
[05:53] <chilicuil> braiam: or use https://pagekite.net/ which is *amazing*
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> Mayazcherquoi: what is the make and model of teh laptop?
[05:54] <rghose> my wifi doesn't work (broadcom 14e4:4727) on ubuntu 11.10... ad-hoc mode cannot be set on the device... strangely, it works on the 10.04 LTS version... any help?
[05:54] <Mayazcherquoi> ActionParsnip: Lenovo S10e
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> rghose: are there any bugs reported?
[05:55] <CFHowlett> rghose   paste the output from lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[05:55] <Mayazcherquoi> rghose: Install proprietary/restricted drivers.
[05:55] <CFHowlett> rghose   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:55] <frustro> linocisco, not sure then, sorry, ask again maybe someone else can help.
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> Mayazcherquoi: is there a shortcut to disable and enable the touchpad?
[05:56] <linocisco> frustro, yes. Now i restarted and it is disabled now
[05:56] <Mayazcherquoi> ActionParsnip: Yes. I've alreay tried that :-/
[05:56] <Mayazcherquoi> But dw, I just restarted. Working all goods now :)
[05:56] <frustro> linocisco, lol, yes a restart helps, net time after change ifdown NAME
[05:56] <frustro> *next
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> Mayazcherquoi: http://lgallardo.com/en/2010/04/21/configurando-synaptics-touchpad-en-lenovo-ideapad-s10e/
[05:57] <linocisco> frustro, I have two ISP links . DNS and apt-get install are ok with eth0 before. When I disabled, it is not working
[05:58] <rghose> well, i did enable the drivers in the first place, else the wlan device would not be created... broadcom-sta drivers is what I had downloaded and installed
[05:58] <rghose> however, on ubu 11.10 it does not help to set ad-hoc mode in the wlan interface
[05:59] <frustro> what does an MTR show?
[05:59] <frustro> linocisco, mtr google.com where does it die?
[05:59] <linocisco> frustro, I am sorry how to test MTR to show
[05:59] <linocisco> frustro, freezing
[06:00] <frustro> linocisco, what about dig?
[06:00] <frustro> linocisco, just dig enter
[06:00] <johny9> Enter text here...hi
[06:00] <johny9> hi
[06:00] <johny9> i am johny
[06:00] <Antares> hi
[06:00] <johny9> i nee dhelp in ubuntu
[06:00] <linocisco> frustro, dig = no servers could be reached
[06:01] <chilicuil> ask! johny9
[06:01] <urfr332gO> Antares, howdeee.
[06:01] <chilicuil> lol!
[06:01] <frustro> linocisco, k, mrt 4.2.2.2 lets see if you have any routing and if it's just DNS
[06:01] <johny9> can we use video chat in ubuntu for yahoo messenger and skype
[06:02] <johny9> without any problem or disconnections
[06:02] <chipotle> hi, i restarted ubuntu after i installed it and it told me to remove the installation media, but my bios needs to select the right boot device. i selected the hard drive i think is the right one and i just get a purple screen for the past 5 minutes
[06:02] <zykotick9> johny9: yahoo video might be a problem...
[06:03] <johny9> what about google voice which google is providing free voice call within USA
[06:03] <linocisco> frustro, no command mrt found
[06:03] <frustro> linocisco, k, mtr 4.2.2.2 lets see if you have any routing and if it's just DNS
[06:03] <chipotle> is this normal?
[06:03] <frustro> mtr no mrt
[06:04] <linocisco> frustro, the thing is I want to make sure internet still working if i disable one Network card which link to one ISP.
[06:05] <ubuntu> HI
[06:05] <e-frame> hi, is there any specific channel for "ubuntu for android"? or it's just mixed here?
[06:05] <linocisco> frustro, I have two ISP links into two network cards eth0 and eth1. I disabled eth0 and disabled its nameserver and proxy and port in apt.conf. but still not working
[06:05] <bjrohan> rasusto: Unfortunatley the site portforward shows how to forward one port to a computer. From my android phone, If I create an ssh connection on port 23, and then port forward 23 to my computers static ip address, won't it go to port 23 by default, not 22 where I want it to go?
[06:05] <zykotick9> e-frame: try #ubuntu-phone
[06:05] <e-frame> zykotick9: thanks, i'll try
[06:05] <linocisco> e-frame, ubuntu for adroid will be better to tweak but slower loading and shutdown
[06:06] <ubuntu> HI ANY ONE AVAIL... THER?
[06:06] <frustro> linocisco, can you ping the gateway of eth1?
[06:06] <e-frame> linocisco: is it kinda dualboot
[06:06] <e-frame> ?
[06:06] <johny9> what about google voice which google is providing free voice call within USA
[06:06] <linocisco> e-frame, no good with dual boot if your device is with slow hardware
[06:07] <linocisco> frustro, yes. I can ping gateway of eth1
[06:07] <frustro> linocisco, do you have DNS servers in /etc/resolv.conf?
[06:08] <ignoredthoughts> does anyone know why NetworkManager is so flawed from install
[06:08] <linocisco> frustro, yes. i disabled with # to nameservers of eth0 ISP1 link. and put extra entry of ISP2's DNS servers
[06:08] <pellos> how to install zend optimizer?
[06:08] <linocisco> frustro, nameserver x.x.x.x and namserver y.y.y.y. two lines
[06:09] <frustro> linocisco, DNS is DNS, dotn matter who servs it.  use 208.67.222.222 and 220.220 for both ISP...
[06:09] <e-frame> linocisco: i mean how do you get ubuntu on android phones? do you have to choose which os you want to use like dualboot? or you can switch between them anytime you want without reboot?
[06:09] <ignoredthoughts> lubuntu < linux mint XDE
[06:10] <CFHowlett> e-frame   maybe ask at #ubuntu-phone
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> ignoredthoughts: try wicd then
[06:10] <linocisco> frustro, two ISPs are different and we got only subnetted private IPs. even DNS servers are different
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> ignoredthoughts: or wifi-radar
[06:11] <ignoredthoughts> did wifi-radar
[06:11] <frustro> linocisco, take the cisco off your name.
[06:11] <ignoredthoughts> NetworkManager was a pain to set up
[06:11] <chipotle> so when i reboot ubuntu after my install i get (initramfs) after i select ubuntu from the grub menu
[06:11] <frustro> linocisco, DNS is DNS
[06:11] <ubuntu> how do i installed PHP in ubuntu
[06:11] <icebreaker> server irc.fullnetwork.org
[06:11] <chipotle> what do i do to get x working properly?
[06:11] <chipotle> or what did i do wrong?
[06:11] <linocisco> e-frame, I will replace android with ubuntu if ubuntu is better.
[06:11] <ignoredthoughts> I like being able to boot and work
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> !lamp | ubuntu
[06:11] <ignoredthoughts> Lubuntu makes you work for it
[06:11] <linocisco> frustro, why take cisco offf?
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> ignoredthoughts: it uses the same network manager in Ubuntu...
[06:12] <ignoredthoughts> ActionParsnip no no no the .cong isn't the same
[06:12] <ignoredthoughts> you have to alter from false to true
[06:12] <ignoredthoughts> and then it woks
[06:12] <ignoredthoughts> works
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> ignoredthoughts: never had an issue with it personally, maybe you have a weird wifi chip
[06:13] <ignoredthoughts> Nope
[06:13] <ignoredthoughts> That was set up okay
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> ignoredthoughts: mine works out of the box...
[06:13] <pellos> how to exit vi and save changes?
[06:13] <ignoredthoughts> I had to modify the .conf file
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> ignoredthoughts: are there any bugs reported?
[06:13] <ignoredthoughts> nop
[06:13] <ignoredthoughts> i did good too
[06:13] <ignoredthoughts> i looked it up
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> ignoredthoughts: I suggest you report the bug then
[06:14] <ignoredthoughts> the bug has been reported solved
[06:14] <ignoredthoughts> why set it up so that it installs that way then
[06:14] <ignoredthoughts> it turns updown to false
[06:15] <ignoredthoughts> i want it up true
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> ignoredthoughts: report a new one then....
[06:15] <pellos> how to exit vi and save changes?
[06:15] <ignoredthoughts> action: im literally a noob
[06:15] <zykotick9> pellos: ESC then wq
[06:15] <ignoredthoughts> why report a bug if i'm not sure i'm reporting something useful?
[06:15] <zykotick9> pellos: or ESC then x
[06:15] <ignoredthoughts> my best exp was dealing with a python script
[06:16] <pellos> zykotick9: is there a command to search using vi? so i will not check all the php.ini ?
[06:16] <zykotick9> pellos: search forward with / and backward with ?
[06:16] <ignoredthoughts> i can't explain how difficult it was to make my comp not ask for install disk
[06:16] <ignoredthoughts> that was stupid
[06:16] <ignoredthoughts> where do i gain access to give input?
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> ignoredthoughts: it will be closed by the bug guys if it isn't valid :)
[06:17] <ignoredthoughts> Action
[06:17] <ubuntu> how can i use CUP s in ubuntu
[06:17] <ubuntu> ?
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> ignoredthoughts: try using TAB to complete nicks
[06:18] <ignoredthoughts> this problem can't be that new
[06:19] <ubuntu> how can i use CUP s in ubuntu ?
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> ignoredthoughts: up to you, never had the issue personally.
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: install a printer
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> ignoredthoughts: i'm simply closing your PMs btw
[06:21] <ubuntu> how can i use CUP s in ubuntu ?
[06:22] <ubuntu> plz--plz give me ans..
[06:22] <ubuntu> ?
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: I told you..
[06:22] <CFHowlett> ubuntu install a printer
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: its a printer software, so if you install a printer you will be using it
[06:23] <Dogears> Hi! Has anyone had problems with the latest Flash upgrade in Firefox and Chrome?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> Dogears: what is the problem?
[06:24] <Dogears> ActionParsnip: My flash has stopped working. There was an upgrade last week and now it is not working?
[06:24] <ubuntu> how to install  FTP server in ubuntu
[06:24] <Dogears> ActionParsnip: It is working in Chrome?
[06:24] <ubuntu> ?
[06:24] <Dogears> ActionParsnip:
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> Dogears: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'    thanks
[06:24] <Dogears> ActionParsnip: Sorry not Chrome but Opera
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/settingup-an-ftp-server-on-ubuntu-with-proftpd.html
[06:25] <ubuntu>  how to install  FTP server in ubuntu ?
[06:25] <bazhang> ubuntu, check the link
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: why ask a question if you won't listen for replies??
[06:26] <dRounse> why cant i boot when i use unetbootin? everytime i try i get a boot error
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> dRounse: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[06:28] <dRounse> ActionParsnip no but i tried with multiple ISOs and ISOs that i have used before and they worked fine
[06:29] <CFHowlett> dRounse   verifying iso integrity takes a minute or 2 - and eliminates one of many possible error points...
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | dRounse
[06:29] <dRounse> ok ill do it now
[06:31] <mi3> Hello!
[06:32] <CFHowlett> mi3   greetings
[06:32] <Tommyboy> hi
[06:33] <ubuntu> sorry i m using it 1 st time so i ca't understand it
[06:33] <MrDD> .
[06:33] <mi3> yo guys, when I load lshw from terminal it displays all the information but I need it to display only certain type of information like cache, cdrom[only the certain type]
[06:34] <CFHowlett> mi3   see grep command
[06:34] <mi3> okay
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> mi3: try:  sudo lshw -C drive; sudo lshw -C disk
[06:34] <mi3> ohh
[06:35] <ubuntu> after going no that link tell me further step ?
[06:35] <CFHowlett> *blush* much better and to the point AP.  sorry for partial info mi3
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: its all there dude
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: I recommend installing openssh-server and using sftp
[06:36] <mi3> CFHowlett: I dont know how to use the grep command properly can you give an example? lets take an example of network
[06:37] <kriskropd> echo "my name is kris" | grep "kris"
[06:37] <CFHowlett> mi3 grep searches for a specific text string thus...
[06:37] <kriskropd> or 'ifcofnig | grep HW'
[06:37] <kriskropd> ifconfig*
[06:38] <CFHowlett> mi3 lspc -vvnn | grep 14e4 will search output for "14e4"
[06:38] <mi3> what is lspc?
[06:38] <zykotick9> a typo i believe
[06:38] <zykotick9> lspci
[06:38] <CFHowlett> mi3 lspci
[06:38] <CFHowlett> *fat finger typo*
[06:39] <mi3> hmm
[06:40] <kriskropd> i just got here, mi3, what are you trying to do?
[06:40] <mi3> means?
[06:40] <pellos> guys how can i install zend optimiser?
[06:40] <mi3> trying to get some hardware information from my pc kriskropd
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> CFHowlett: if you use the -i option on grep it makes it case (i)nsensitive
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> mi3: if you have a desktop UI, install lshw-gtk
[06:41] <CFHowlett> ActionParsnip   i'll check it out.  Thanks.
[06:41] <CFHowlett> pellos see http://www.zend.com/products/guard/downloads
[06:41] <dRounse> ActionParsnip the MD5 is the same
[06:41] <kriskropd> mi3 there is lspci, lsusb, lscpu, df -h  ~~ lots of stuff to tell you pc info, what's your goal?
[06:41] <mi3> ActionParsnip I need this lshw for my conky[love that monitor] so am figuring how to apply yhat
[06:41] <pellos> CFHowlett: I saw that. I didnt understood the reference i need to add in php.ini
[06:41] <mi3> ohh my goal is to display umm wait
[06:43] <mi3> kriskropd, processor, north bridge, southbridge and ram
[06:43] <pellos> also why i cant exit vi using esc ?
[06:43] <zykotick9> pellos: wasn't programmed with that key
[06:43] <kriskropd> mi3, gimme a sec , lscpu should ahve that info
[06:43] <theadmin> pellos: Because that's not the exit command in vi, esc switches to normal mode. Use :q
[06:44] <kriskropd> pellos, hit esc colon and either wq to write quit or q! to just quit
[06:44] <chipotle> hi, when you restart ubuntu for the first tiem after you install, does it sit at a purple screen for a long period of time before it loads up?
[06:44] <theadmin> chipotle: Normally no
[06:44] <chipotle> looks like only 30 seconds
[06:44] <chipotle> last time it took 10+ minutes and nothing happened
[06:44] <mi3> !I got cpu infor from etc/cat or something
[06:45] <chipotle> how do i read an HFS+ partition (mac osx)?
[06:45] <theadmin> chipotle: sudo apt-get install hfsprogs and then it should mount normally
[06:45] <mi3> ubottu I did not think so
[06:45] <mi3> ubottu I did not think so
[06:45] <kriskropd> mi3, cat is a program that prints the file
[06:46] <mi3> umm wait i added processor variable so forget about that processor pls advice me on northbridge, southbridge and ram
[06:46] <theadmin> mi3: For CPU info, use "cat /proc/cpuinfo", for RAM use "free -m"
[06:47] <Dogears> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/855037/plain/
[06:47] <mi3> theadmin i need the ram details like ram speed, voltage
[06:47] <theadmin> mi3: Oh, huh, just a second
[06:47] <mi3> also ram type like ddr2 or ddr3 theadmin
[06:48] <theadmin> mi3: cat /proc/meminfo
[06:48] <kriskropd> TIL , check /proc more often :D
[06:48] <chipotle> theadmin: how do i get permissions to copy to another hdd (it's ext4) i got an error say i don't have permission
[06:48] <theadmin> chipotle: Mount it properly
[06:48] <linocisco> hi
[06:49] <linocisco> who could help me setup proxy server with two ISP link making failover?
[06:49] <theadmin> mi3: Also, "sudo dmidecode --type 17 | less"
[06:49] <chipotle> theadmin: and my sudo passwd is the same passwd as my user account?
[06:49] <theadmin> chipotle: Sure
[06:50] <chipotle> theadmin: is there a way i can change it?
[06:50] <DansTheMan> How do I get a list of all recently installed packages?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Dogears: you need to remove those packages then just install adobe-installer   from the partner repo
[06:50] <pellos> I entered a file using vi how can i write in that file now ?
[06:50] <Dogears> Thanks
[06:50] <theadmin> chipotle: You need to change your user password
[06:50] <Xanthippus> Heeey
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Dogears: you have 2 flash plugins installed as well as some old config stuff from flashplugin-downloader 32bit
[06:50] <fairuz_> pellos: ctrl + I
[06:50] <mi3> ohh thanks a lot theadmin
[06:51] <fairuz_> pellos: shift + I
[06:51] <zykotick9> fairuz_: what?
[06:51] <mi3> how do you end that? theadmin
[06:51] <theadmin> mi3: Kill less? Just hit escape or q
[06:52] <mi3> ohh thanks theadmin
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> Dogears: http://paste.ubuntu.com/855046/
[06:52] <zykotick9> pellos: perhaps running "vimtutor" would be beneficial for you
[06:52] <mi3> the thing is it requires sudo everytime so how do I set it in conky theadmin?
[06:52] <kriskropd> ^
[06:53] <DansTheMan> How do I get a list of all recently installed packages (using 11.10 terminal)?
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> DansTheMan: check the back end of /var/log/dpkg.log
[06:53] <Dogears> ActionParsnip:  Thanks for your help. That is fantastic.
[06:54] <theadmin> mi3: There are many ways you could approach that. Simpliest is: redirect the output to a file, and print that file in conky
[06:54] <DansTheMan> ActionParsnip: Sorry? :S
[06:54] <pellos> and i last question what thats mean PHP Deprecated:  Comments starting with '#' are deprecated in /etc/php5/cli/conf.d/imap.ini on line 1 in Unknown on line 0 ?
[06:54] <mi3> okay, should i try pre_exec sudo in that conky? will that work?
[06:54] <CFHowlett> ActionParsnip   now THAT is some good foo-fu!  I've been wanting to know my installed package list for  a while!
[06:54] <zykotick9> DansTheMan: you might also want to check if you have a /var/log/apt/history.log
[06:55] <theadmin> pellos: ini comments normally start with ";", not "#".
[06:55] <fox_> hello
[06:55] <pellos> theadmin: is this error something to worry about?
[06:55] <DansTheMan> zykotick9: No, I don't. But I do have a dpkg log.
[06:55] <fox_> im not broadcasting my ip am i?
[06:56] <DansTheMan> How can I filter out installed programs only and display it in terminal? :S
[06:56] <theadmin> pellos: Well... you should really fix the file. Right now it's nothing, but sometime later it might cause trouble
[06:56] <mi3> theadmin?
[06:56] <theadmin> DansTheMan: dpkg -L
[06:56] <mi3> should i try pre_exec sudo in that conky? will that work?
[06:56] <DansTheMan> * fox_ (~fox@cpe-098-122-023-091.sc.res.rr.com) has joined #ubuntu
[06:56] <pellos> theadmin how can i fix the file? and how it is possible to be broken if i never touch it ?
[06:56] <DansTheMan> theadmin: Needs at least one package argument :-/
[06:56] <fox_> hello?
[06:57] <mi3> Hi!
[06:57] <DansTheMan> Hi fox_
[06:57] <fox_> yay
[06:57] <san> please help me
[06:57] <_nullthree> hello everyone
[06:57] <mi3> wth?
[06:57] <mi3> hehehehe
[06:57] <fox_> im at the point where i need help from a guru as they say
[06:57] <zykotick9> DansTheMan: "dpkg -l"
[06:57] <DansTheMan> zykotick9: Ah :P
[06:57] <mi3> guru hoja shuru
[06:58] <mi3> hehe
[06:58] <DansTheMan> zykotick9: Okay, how can I sort that by date? :P
[06:58] <theadmin> DansTheMan: Err, pardon me, "dpkg -l"
[06:58] <san> please help me i tried to install burg yesterday but it dint work so i tried removing it but now its themes autum and magic are not getting removed i cant install any other software saying i have held broken packages
[06:58] <zykotick9> DansTheMan: dates aren't included in "dpkg -l" so you can't
[06:58] <DansTheMan> theadmin: All goods :)
[06:58] <DansTheMan> Yeah I realise :-/
[06:58] <fox_> would anyone like to help me?
[06:59] <mi3> why dont u ask the question,ehh?
[06:59] <san> i tried some code configure -a which was in forums even tried -f for brute force but nothing seems to be working
[06:59] <fox_> i dont know the rules about asking
[06:59] <CFHowlett> fox_   ask the questions plz
[06:59] <soreau> ! ask | fox_
[06:59] <DansTheMan> zykotick9 & theadmin: Found this: http://distilledb.com/blog/archives/date/2009/06/30/getting-a-list-of-recently-installed-packages-in-ubuntu.page , but, it doesn't list any contents :(
[06:59] <dRounse> im going to set up my server, i have 2.5 gb of ram total for my desktop and server, should i use 1 gb in my server or 512 mb
[06:59] <fox_> ok sorry hehe
[06:59] <kriskropd> fox_ just be polite, its kind of a free for all in here
[06:59] <fox_> im having trouble with netcat
[07:00] <fox_> the netcat term on windows keeps closing
[07:00] <mi3> why does ubottu not have an operator status in this channel?
[07:00] <fox_> i have both linux and windows, but netcat isnt working on windows well
[07:01] <CFHowlett> mi3   ops are present
[07:01] <ubuntu> how to resolve the problem when i start the redhat 5 it ask for date and time after putting this info i want to c:/  every time
[07:01] <theadmin> mi3: She's just a bot and she doesn't kick users... Why would she need an op status?
[07:01] <san> please kindly help i tried installing BURG but it dint install it had some sub process error then i tried to remove it but it is not getting removed now i am stuck tried everything including deleting folders, config -a, -f but nothing works
[07:01] <CFHowlett> ubuntu redhat? ...
[07:01] <soreau> fox_: How is that a ubuntu question? Perhaps you should try #windows
[07:01] <ubuntu> ya
[07:01] <fox_> i know i know...
[07:02] <mi3> okay why do we need 3 floodbots? isn't one enough?
[07:02] <fox_> but with wine and such the lines are blurring, eh?
[07:02] <kriskropd> fox_ not really no
[07:03] <theadmin> mi3: That's more of a question for #ubuntu-irc , not here
[07:03] <fox_> its not windows im interested in tho
[07:03] <urfr332gO> san, where did you get burg from?
[07:03] <soreau> fox_: No. This is the official ubuntu support channel. Problems with netcat on windows is in no way a ubuntu issue
[07:03] <pellos> is there a command to see if i am runnin 64 bit linux ?
[07:03] <mi3> thanks
[07:03] <apporc> Hi, hackers. anyone know the function of 'host' in dhcpd's configuration file?
[07:03] <zykotick9> pellos: "uname -m" to check kernel
[07:03] <theadmin> pellos: uname -m
[07:03] <pellos> ok i am using 64
[07:04] <fox_> well, i could use some help with netcat for linux
[07:04] <san> urfr332g0, i saw in the site then added repo ppa then sudo update and install
[07:04] <apporc> Hi, hackers. anyone know the function of 'host' in dhcpd's configuration file? Does it determine the hostname or something else for those clients?
[07:04] <soreau> ! ask | fox_
[07:04] <ubuntu> plz reply
[07:04] <san> now i tried installing many softwares even upgrading but it says i have held broken packages
[07:04] <fox_> i need to talk privately with someone who knows netcat, ssh, ect;
[07:05] <soreau> fox_: No, you don't. Try ##networking
[07:05] <san> tried repairing clean confiure -a, -f, nothing working
[07:05] <fox_> ty
[07:05] <chipotle> what applications can i use to use ubuntu as a file server?
[07:05] <san> even tried removing manualy all folders but dint work
[07:05] <soreau> fox_: or ##linux
[07:05] <theadmin> chipotle: Any FTP server pretty much
[07:05] <pellos> Guys and a last question.. i installed zend optimiser version 2.2 i need to install version 3
[07:05] <san> urfr332g0, i installed super boot manager
[07:05] <chipotle> theadmin: local
[07:05] <pellos> what i do in such a case ?
[07:06] <kriskropd> chipotle, or samba or nfs
[07:06] <pellos> install in a same way the new version?
[07:06] <chipotle> theadmin: well, is there a good file manager to view files across various hard drives
[07:06] <chipotle> kriskropd: yeah, but is there an interface/application to make it easy?
[07:06] <urfr332gO> san, use the tab complete of nics. run sudo apt-get purge burg-pc burg-common  that will remove it completly then run sudo grub-instal /dev/sdX      the X is the hd your putting grub 2 back in the mbr then run sudo updte-grub
[07:06] <san> urfr332g0, is there anyway that i can go back? anything like system restore?
[07:06] <kriskropd> chipotle depending ont he protocol, i like Gigolo on my netbook
[07:06] <theadmin> chipotle: Uhm... pcmanfm, nautilus, any file manager?
[07:07] <ubuntu> koee hai...
[07:07] <mi3> hu na ubuntu
[07:07] <san> urfr332g0, u are not getting point my friend my grub2 is running perfectly but burg is not removed properly so it is broken
[07:07] <chipotle> where are mounted volumes in ubuntu? /mnt?
[07:07] <urfr332gO> san, this is all from inside the running ubuntu the sdX should be sda or sdb depending on what the hd is, no partition number
[07:07] <san> urfr332g0, i dont have problem in booting
[07:07] <mi3> bolna ubuntu
[07:07] <step_offset> chipotle: /media/
[07:07] <Jordan_U> san: Can you pastebin the ouptu of "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[07:07] <fidel> chipotle: that depends on the user basically
[07:08] <fidel> at least in case you mount manually
[07:08] <step_offset> chipotle: in general they are mounted by pmount
[07:08] <san> Jordan_u, ok giveme 1 min
[07:08] <kriskropd> chipotle, wherever you moutn them, /mnt /media, Gigolo is more temporary so itll put them in ~/.gvfs
[07:08] <kriskropd> mount*
[07:08] <urfr332gO> san correction  sudo grub-install /dev/sdX  I left out the second l
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> san: how is burg still around, what imact is it having?
[07:10] <san> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/bgpCAQvj
[07:10] <san> http://pastebin.com/bgpCAQvj
[07:10] <fox_> not much help there...
[07:10] <fox_> hmm
[07:10] <san> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/bgpCAQvj
[07:10] <soreau> fox_: You might have to be patient or try ##linux
[07:11] <fox_> i tried both
[07:11] <ubuntu> i m putting it again plz .... how to resolve the problem when i start the redhat 5 it ask for date and time after putting this info i want to c:/  every time
[07:11] <soreau> fox_: Remember to ask your question and don't ask to ask or else you likely will not get a response
[07:11] <CFHowlett> ubuntu ask #redhat
[07:11] <DansTheMan> Soo, how can I get a list of installed packages that are sorted by date?
[07:11] <ubuntu> ok
[07:11] <san> urfr332g0:  sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[07:11] <san> Installation finished. No error reported.
[07:12] <cromag> fox_: you havnt asked a real question yet have you ?
[07:12] <ubuntu> yes
[07:12] <san> ActionParsnip: please help what do i do
[07:12] <Jordan_U> san: OK. What is the output of "sudo apt-get remove burg-theme-autumn burg-theme-magic"?
[07:13] <san> Jordan_U: i have tried it but still doing for you
[07:13] <Jordan_U> san: I already know it will fail, I'd just like the output in case it's revealing.
[07:13] <fox_> i cant send to ##linux
[07:13] <DansTheMan> Soo, how can I get a list of installed packages that are sorted by date?
[07:13] <Jordan_U> !register | fox_
[07:14] <san> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/KHzpKbab
[07:14] <lewis1711> can I install a fresh version of ubuntu without wiping my $HOME folder? my installation is broken I think since I can't upgrade distributions
[07:14] <lewis1711> and I have no external harddrives I can use to back up
[07:14] <CFHowlett> lewis1711   yes
[07:14] <san> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/KHzpKbab
[07:14] <san> urfr332g0: http://pastebin.com/KHzpKbab
[07:14] <fox_> ty
[07:15] <Kartagis> !info bootchart
[07:15] <CFHowlett> lewis1711   wait - it depends
[07:15] <sgo11> DansTheMan, I think you can use ubuntu software center.
[07:15] <CFHowlett> lewis1711   is your /home is its own partition or a sub-part of the ubuntu root partition...
[07:15] <DansTheMan> sgo11: Via terminal :-/
[07:15] <chipotle> is the best way to transfer over 1tb of data from one drive to another the cp -r command? i want to set it and make sure it works so when i wake up, it is done
[07:16] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: grep 'status installed' /var/log/dpkg.log | awk '{print $5}'
[07:16] <lewis1711> CFHowlett:
[07:16] <ubuntu> waiting for reply..
[07:16] <lewis1711> whoops
[07:16] <sgo11> DansTheMan, ok then. not sure.
[07:16] <CFHowlett> lewis1711   if its own part, do not format /home and you should be OK on reinstall.
[07:16] <san> Jordan_U: i cannot install or upgrade any other software via internet or through deb file :( i think i will i have to wait for 12.04 then do a format and install
[07:16] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: Not perfect (packages could have been removed after being installed), but should give you a general idea.
[07:16] <lewis1711> CFHowlett: it's not its own partition :( which is the ubuntu default
[07:16] <san> ActionParsnip: i cannot install or upgrade any other software via internet or through deb file :( i think i will i have to wait for 12.04 then do a format and install
[07:16] <san> urfr332g0: i cannot install or upgrade any other software via internet or through deb file :( i think i will i have to wait for 12.04 then do a format and install
[07:17] <CFHowlett> lewis1711   not to worry.  is your ubuntu still working?
[07:17] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: Oh :-/ That's a bummer. but, thank you nonetheless :)
[07:17] <fox_> cannot change nickname while banned on channel?
[07:17] <fox_> egh
[07:17] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: Why do you want this list?
[07:17] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: There's uninstalled ones on there? :S
[07:17] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: Cos' Ubuntu won't start the window manager
[07:17] <lewis1711> CFHowlett: yes it functions, but it's stuck at 10.08
[07:17] <DansTheMan> This is the second time today, and the second install.
[07:18] <chipotle> so, how do i mount hard drives, e.g. sdb1?
[07:18] <DansTheMan> I don't want to reinstall again.
[07:18] <chipotle> what do i need to do?
[07:18] <CFHowlett> lewis1711   see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[07:18] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: What are you trying to do to solve that?
[07:18] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: I think it may be from some application I installed.
[07:18] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: Start by describing your original problem in detail. It's likely that we'll be able to find a better way of solving the problem.
[07:19] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: But I forgot what I installed just before I reboot :P
[07:19] <DansTheMan> Oh okay.
[07:19] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: Well, the boot splash disappears and the following comes up:
[07:19] <san> Jordan_U: is there anyway i can go back? undo all what i did yesterday?
[07:19] <chipotle> and when i try copying over a file i get permission denied, because i didn't create them on this current machine, i took them from another machine... what do i do to get around this?
[07:20] <urfr332gO> san, as far as fixing the burg thing you don't have to install. Whats going on with the upgrade or installs it is usually a basic fix?
[07:20] <ubuntu> ok i m going...... to quit
[07:20] <Jordan_U> san: Not a specific "go back to yesterday" command, no (though something like that is actually being worked on using btrfs snapshots).
[07:20] <DansTheMan> "* PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions. \n saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned \n [ OK ] \t * Starting anac(h)ronistic cron \n [ OK ] * Stopping anac(h)oristic cron \n [ OK ]"
[07:20] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: ^
[07:20] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: And it just stops right there, unable to start lightdm (restarting doesn't help)
[07:20] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: Can you get to a terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+F1?
[07:20] <san> Jordan_U: lols sorry but sad there is and option is windows named System Restore
[07:21] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: That's where I'm at :P
[07:21] <kriskropd> chipotle, you likely have permissions mixed up and given to different people, when you move the files, make sure to use 'sudo' to do it as root
[07:21] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: What happens when you run "sudo service lightdm restart"?
[07:21] <san> urfr332g0: sorry i dint get what you are trying to tell
[07:21] <humungulous> system restore in windows is a joke san
[07:21] <chipotle> kriskropd: so if i sudo it, what will the permissions be changed to?
[07:21] <chipotle> kriskropd: i want to make sure when i do sudo cp -r it works so when i wake up, it is finished
[07:21] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: "restart: unknown instance"
[07:21] <humungulous> no one uses it
[07:21] <san> humungulous: why
[07:22] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: But I've just been doing "sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart"
[07:22] <kriskropd> chiptole, it wont change them, it will just override them because sudo can do anything :)
[07:22] <humungulous> because you fix a problem that presents itself
[07:22] <kriskropd> sudo substitues your user to root powers, root is like the god inside your linux
[07:22] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: You should not do that. You should use "sudo service foo {start,stop,restart,foo}
[07:22] <k1llj0y> how do i use man chown?
[07:22] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: When doing that, it flashes back to the main tab thingy (dunno the name, default Ctrl+Shift+F7), and the same thing (nothing new is printed)
[07:23] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: I did it on my previous install, not this one though
[07:23] <san> humungulous: i dint get you but still there shud be a restore option in ubuntu
[07:23] <chipotle> kriskropd: well, should i chown the files to myself first?
[07:23] <chipotle> how do i find out what group i am in?
[07:23] <mobhero> hi
[07:23] <ryoshihono> mobhero: hello how do i install my sound car?
[07:23] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: Reboot and tell me what happens when you use "sudo service lightdm restart" (if that's not too much trouble).
[07:23] <CFHowlett> san   you have a dell?
[07:24] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: No, all goods :) I just don't want to have to go through another reinstall :P
[07:24] <san> CFHolett: no just my moniter is of dell and that doesnt matter i guess
[07:24] <kriskropd> chipotle, you don't have to chown the files... are you moving a /home directory to another drive or somethign else?
[07:24] <DansTheMan> (which involves taking out the hard drive, and putting it in another laptop) :P
[07:24] <san> CFHowlett: why what happened
[07:25] <chipotle> kriskropd: it is a drive out of my mac laptop, i want to copy it to this larger drive on my ubuntu machine
[07:25] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: I think it has to do with me installing the medibuntu repositories.
[07:25] <CFHowlett> san DELL has restore creator in the software center - I've used it and it works...
[07:25] <san> Jordan_U: is there anyway i can force delete or uninstall those 2 themes they ruined my OS
[07:25] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: If you don't want to spend time on a tangent that's OK, but why do you have to put the hard drive in another laptop to re-install?
[07:26] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: It's a netbook, has no disc drive, and I have no live USB I can use :P
[07:26] <san> CFHowlett: Thanks anyways but i dont have dell pc i think i will wait for 12.04 release and make a clean install
[07:26] <kriskropd> then yeah, 'sudo cp -r /whatever /mnt/sdb1' will move wherever that drive of yours is to the sdb1 (which i assume is your larger drive)
[07:26] <humungulous> DansTheMan: thats what pxe boot is for, or usb
[07:26] <CFHowlett> san   probably a good idea...
[07:26] <san> urfr322g0: is there anyway i can force delete or uninstall those 2 themes?
[07:26] <DansTheMan> humungulous: I don't think this netbook supports pxe boot
[07:26] <kriskropd> chipotle, you are only copying the files, not modifying them
[07:27] <humungulous> DansTheMan: you got a 1gb usb stick
[07:27] <DansTheMan> But, I've never tried or set up a pxe boot :P
[07:27] <DansTheMan> humungulous: Nope.
[07:27] <chipotle> kriskropd: i tried to copy and i'm still getting a permission denied
[07:27] <san> ActionParsnip: is there anyway i can force remove those 2 themes?
[07:27] <humungulous> wonk wonk
[07:27] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: Same thing, "restart: Unknown instance:"
[07:27] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: You still have enough of a working system to loop boot an Ubuntu install iso from the internal hard drive :) (but there are no guides that I am aware of that detail this process completely).
[07:27] <humungulous> DansTheMan: you got $3
[07:28] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: Is there a way I can go without having to reinstall? :p
[07:28] <kriskropd> chiptole, maybe i need more info :)
[07:28] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: Probably.
[07:28] <DansTheMan> humungulous: Yes. But this is the second install it's happened to me.
[07:28] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: What if you just run "sudo service lightdm start"?
[07:28] <san> Jordan_U: how is it that my grub is running fine and burg is not removed?
[07:28] <chipotle> kriskropd: when i copy it, it still says owned by root and i can't access it...
[07:28] <chipotle> so then what, kriskropd ?
[07:28] <DansTheMan> Probability states it will probably happen over and over again
[07:28] <Jordan_U> san: It's only the package which is not removed.
[07:29] <kriskropd> chipotle, sudo wont let you move root files around?
[07:29] <san> Jordan_U: anyway i can force remove? manually delete files? uninstall? something?????
[07:29] <Jordan_U> san: We may be able to do some ugly hacks to get the packages removed.
[07:29] <chipotle> kriskropd: the file i am taking it from isn't a root file; the file was made on an entirely diferent computer and network
[07:29] <san> Jordan_U: what does that mean?
[07:30] <kriskropd> chipotle, I don't see how that should make the file immovable if it is being accessed by your machine by root
[07:30] <chipotle> kriskropd: i moved it but i can't access it because now it is owned by root
[07:30] <Jordan_U> san: First, and hopefully this is all that needs to be done (but not likely) try running "sudo mkdir -p /boot/burg/locale/" then "sudo apt-get -f install".
[07:30] <chipotle> so how do i change it to be owned by my user ?
[07:30] <humungulous> chipotle: so maniuplate it via sudo
[07:30] <kriskropd> chiptole, I'm not sure then, if you can't do it with sudo, something is very weird :P
[07:30] <urfr332gO> Jordan_U, if it is the ppa install unless it is fragmented and standard remove works or just go into nautilus a root and remove it it is just a version of grub2 is all
[07:31] <step_offset> chipotle: chown
[07:31] <humungulous> chipotle: sudo chown <somefile> <youruser>
[07:31] <san> what if i delete all such files from my pc? i go to places where it is installed and delete manualy? deleting files willl work? it works in windows sometimes some corrupt software can be manually deleted
[07:31] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: Do you think Medibuntu is the cause?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> urfr332gO: That sentence did not make sense to me. Could you please rephrase it?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: I doubt it, but it's possible.
[07:32] <mosno> why does unity2d show 4 workspaces in a 2x2 layout when clicking the workspaces dock icon, but when using the keyboard it is a 1x4 row?
[07:32] <chipotle> humungulous: and can i do that before i copy the files via sudo?
[07:32] <Jordan_U> san: No, the problem you have right now is more with the package manager being in an incosistent state (because of poorly written packages) than any problem with the files installed by the packages.
[07:32] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: I used this guide to install the repository: http://medibuntu.org/repository.php , instead of the more simpler way using Ubuntu's GUI.
[07:32] <urfr332gO> Jordan_U, it is normally removed with sudo apt-get purge burg-pc burg-common, or just go to where its at in root and remove it.
[07:32] <humungulous> chipotle: i missed the earlier part of the conversation so i lack context
[07:33] <urfr332gO> Jordan_U, burg is grub 2 in drag basically.
[07:33] <chipotle> humungulous: i have a hard drive from a different machine, different network and different users that i want to copy the entire contents over to my ubuntu machine and specific hard drive...
[07:33] <humungulous> chipotle: what kind of filesystem
[07:34] <san> Jordan_U: ok but still any way? i tried clean but dint work any way to clean package manager?
[07:34] <humungulous> chipotle: do you want to do it over the network or physically cable it in
[07:34] <humungulous> im missing all this
[07:34] <Jordan_U> urfr332gO: The problem is that san has packages burg-theme-autumn burg-theme-magic which are half configured. These half configured packages cannot be removed due to errors in the postins / postrm scripts and that is breaking dpkg as a whole.
[07:34] <chipotle> humungulous: both drives are inside my server
[07:34] <humungulous> ok
[07:34] <Jordan_U> san: Did you see my previous suggestion with mkdir -p?
[07:34] <humungulous> so
[07:34] <chipotle> humungulous: hfs+ (mac) to my ext4 fs in the ubuntu box
[07:34] <humungulous> chipotle: steps are (1) mount the filesystem using the mount command
[07:35] <humungulous> chipotle: (2) copy the files with cp -r
[07:35] <san> urfr332g0: and now i am feeling very guilty why i tried to replace simple grub with some graphical burg
[07:35] <san> Jordan_U: yes
[07:35] <humungulous> chipotle: (3) then you can umount the foreign filesystem
[07:35] <Jordan_U> san: Did you try it?
[07:35] <humungulous> chipotle: (4) then you can change permissions and ownerships of your copied content using chmod and chown as necessary
[07:35] <noodlr> hi
[07:36] <urfr332gO> Jordan_U, cool your more experienced here.
[07:36] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: Damn, same thing :(
[07:36] <doc-saintly> I have a 3tb external drive i'm trying to use as the backup for a DD operation, but it keeps saying permission denied even though I'm using sudo
[07:36] <DansTheMan> :'(
[07:36] <doc-saintly> Any ideas?
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: you can edit the postrm files to be logically ineffective. I believe there are guides for removing stubborn packages. You essentially just have an empty if statement and the set -e
[07:36] <kieppie> hi all. how stable/unstable is 12.04? I have a desktop system I want to set up that I'll be using as my primary for a while & need to know if it's stable enough for daily use?
[07:36] <chipotle> humungulous: so one big chown would be fine?
[07:37] <humungulous> chipotle: chown -R will recurse
[07:37] <step_offset> 12.04 is out?
[07:37] <kriskropd> doc-saintly, you did mount it first right?
[07:37] <llutz_> kieppie: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> doc-saintly: is the dest mounted?
[07:37] <san> http://pastebin.com/NJ699Xcg
[07:37] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: I know, and I plan to do that next if needed.
[07:37] <kieppie> sweet - thanks
[07:37] <san> do you know i know how this happened
[07:37] <humungulous> chipotle: probably ideally you mount the foreign volume read-only and dont manipulate the contents until youve made your copy
[07:37] <doc-saintly> Hrm, I thought dd was at the device level?
[07:37] <san> i dint do it purposefully
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: cool, glad you are aware. Too much to type on my phone
[07:38] <Jordan_U> san: Looks good. Now try "sudo apt-get remove burg-theme-autumn burg-theme-magic" again.
[07:38] <noodlr> I'm using the Unity desktop for Ubuntu 11.10, and for some reason I cannot get the keyboard shortcut Ctrl + Alt + T to respond. I've tried assigning other key-combinations to Terminal, under keyboard shortcut, but they do not work either. I have Ubuntu 11.10 installed on another machine and I use Unity there too, but the keyboard shortcut works there... Anybody have any ideas as to potential causes...?
[07:38] <kriskropd> doc-saintly, dd converts adn copies files within a filesystem, meaning it has to be mounted first :)
[07:38] <doc-saintly> kirkland: mmm, AFAIK dd is not aware of "files"
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> noodlr: install guake and you can have the ter
[07:39] <llutz_> doc-saintly: dd copies blocks, those can be files or just raw-stuff
[07:39] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: what is the exact command you are using?
[07:39] <noodlr> ActionParsnip, guake?
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> noodlr: the terminal hide and show with F12 (by default)
[07:39] <san> http://pastebin.com/bShzSvh3
[07:39] <noodlr> ah
[07:39] <san> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/bShzSvh3
[07:39] <doc-saintly> sudo dd if=/dev/md0 bs=4k | pigz > /dev/sdk
[07:39] <doc-saintly> @ flintwingel
[07:39] <san> urfr322g0: http://pastebin.com/bShzSvh3
[07:40] <san> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/bShzSvh3
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> noodlr: ever play quake, halflife or wolfenstein?
[07:40] <llutz_> doc-saintly: you cannot traverse > with sudo, use tee or just a plain root-shell sudo -i
[07:40] <zykotick9> doc-saintly: sudo can't cross pipes |
[07:40] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: the sudo applies only to the dd, not the pigz
[07:40] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: Are you present? :-/
[07:40] <doc-saintly> how do I use the tee llutz_ ?
[07:40] <Jordan_U> san: Still looking good. Now let's see if we can finish with "sudo apt-get purge burg burg-common".
[07:41] <noodlr> ActionParsnip, yeah played quake/half-life etc. but was confused by guake...
[07:41] <noodlr> I thought it was some ubuntu app
[07:41] <chipotle> does anyone know how to mount an hfs+ partition? i've googled but i get error messages when i try to mount...
[07:41] <chipotle> i'm wondering what i'm missing
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> noodlr: did you ever use the dropdown console during the game?
[07:41] <Jordan_U> chipotle: What error message?
[07:42] <DansTheMan> Are you ignoring me? :/
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> noodlr: it is an ubuntu app
[07:42] <san> Jordan_U: ok i admit i installed super boot manager then went to burg then just looked but dint install it then went to themes there i double clicked 1 then 2 BURG themes i just did it to view but it got installed and at that time burg was not installed then i tried installing burg but dint work this is where problem started first i had to install burg then themes
[07:42] <noodlr> ActionParsnip, not that I recall, I just blasted stuff until I died
[07:42] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: No, just trying to support too many people at once (and not just in this channel :)
[07:42] <DansTheMan> Oh okay, apologies
[07:42] <noodlr> ActionParsnip, ah, I see... I'm just running guake right now
[07:42] <san> urfr322g0: sudo apt-get purge burg burg-common
[07:42] <llutz_> doc-saintly: you plan to write gzipped content to a raw-device? how do you plan to restore it?
[07:43] <zykotick9> chipotle: i've never mounted an hfs partition in my life, but i've seen mention that journalling must be turned off (using Apple, before you can mount in gnu/linux)
[07:43] <noodlr> ActionParsnip, does it take terminal profiles?
[07:43] <humungulous> chipotle: sudo mount -t hfsplus <dev>
[07:43] <san> Jordan_U: Do you want all grub2 files to be removed from /boot/grub?
[07:43] <doc-saintly> llutz_: no idea. following directions mostly. I have a 3tb raid that lost its partition, and the only backup I have is ~13gb smaller than the raid.
[07:43] <chipotle> Jordan_U: just says thatit is wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1
[07:43] <humungulous> er
[07:43] <san> urfr322g0: sudo apt-get purge burg burg-common
[07:43] <humungulous> chipotle: sudo mount -t hfsplus <dev> <mountpoint>
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> noodlr: ok well guake is a terminal app that drops from the top on shortcut, you can type a long command, press F12 and it will hide
[07:43] <doc-saintly> so before letting fsck have its way with my raid i was advised to back it up
[07:43] <kriskropd> chiptole 'apt-cache search hfs' shows some stuff, could use 'hfsutils' maybe, but like zykotick9, i never messed with HFS+ partitions before
[07:43] <chipotle> zykotick9: it mounts automagically in ubuntu, but not manually
[07:44] <san> urfr322g0: ok i admit i installed super boot manager then went to burg then just looked but dint install it then went to themes there i double clicked 1 then 2 BURG themes i just did it to view but it got installed and at that time burg was not installed then i tried installing burg but dint work this is where problem started first i had to install burg then themes
[07:44] <ehsan_> Hi today I found the amazing beep command to play a song with given frequencies.because university pc's dont have speakers is there any way that I can listen normal audio (like a music or the system audio) through internal speaker?
[07:44] <zykotick9> chipotle: ok, then ignore me ;)
[07:44] <Jordan_U> chipotle: Are you sure that it's really a valid hfsplus partition? Can you mount it in OSX? Do you have the right device name?
[07:44] <sgo11> hi, a newbie question regarding mail server. If I setup postfix, can postfix both send and receive email to my mailbox? Do I really need to setup other servers like dovecot? What I want is sending email and receiving email to mailbox. that's all. is only postfix enough for handling this job? thanks.
[07:44] <llutz_> doc-saintly: i'm not sure but i think that won't work this way
[07:44] <chipotle> humungulous: that's what i am doing, sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdc1 /osx
[07:44] <chipotle> Jordan_U: yes, yes, yes
[07:44] <llutz_> doc-saintly: create a filesystem on that /dev/sdk and write your gzipped backup into a file
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> noodlr: you can bring it back with F12 and check it, or run more commands etc. Dead handy and supports tabs
[07:44] <chipotle> at least according to disk utility in ubuntu
[07:44] <Jordan_U> ehsan_: Not with anything close to reasonable quality, no.
[07:44] <san> Jordan_U: REPLY! Do you want all grub2 files to be removed from /boot/grub?
[07:44] <humungulous> chipotle: what if you add -o ro
[07:45] <humungulous> chipotle: sudo mount -t hfsplus -o ro <dev> <mountpoint>
[07:45] <doc-saintly> llutz_: well i was having trouble getting Ubuntu to format it in the first place :\ And, what FS should I use with a 3TB file?
[07:45] <san> Jordan_U: Terminal is asking in gui
[07:45] <ehsan_> I don't care about the quality is it possible technically?
[07:45] <llutz_> doc-saintly: ext4, xfs
[07:45] <Jordan_U> ehsan_: Think back to the days of DOS and the audio from those games. That's the best you can get, and you won't get results that good from trying to converting normal audio files.
[07:45] <Kartagis> hi
[07:45] <san> Jordan_U: if i click yes i fear my grub will be deleted and i wont be able to boot again
[07:46] <Jordan_U> ehsan_: Yes, it's technically possible. Almost certainly not worth doing though :)
[07:46] <Kartagis> why doesn't 'sudo echo "nameserver x.x.x.x" > /etc/resolv.conf work as a user?
[07:46] <san> Jordan_U: YES OR NO
[07:46] <noodlr> ActionParsnip, it looks quite powerful, seems to have a lot of customisation scope too... but why doesn't Ctrl + Alt + T work? that's really bizarre
[07:46] <Jordan_U> san: Please be patient.
[07:46] <chipotle> humungulous: same error
[07:46] <san> Jordan_U: sorry...
[07:46] <Jordan_U> san: Click yes. I will help you ensure that your system will still boot afterward.
[07:46] <humungulous> chipotle: requires further research then
[07:46] <llutz_> Kartagis: echo nameserver x.x.x.x |sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[07:47] <san> Jordan_U: THanks
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> noodlr: not sure dude, sorry
[07:47] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: Let me know when you're finished, please :)
[07:47] <Jordan_U> san: You're welcome.
[07:47] <allu2> Kartagis: i guess your trying to pipe the echo command ran as root to the file as user
[07:47] <san> Jordan_U: done
[07:47] <san> Jordan_U: finished without errors
[07:47] <Kartagis> llutz_: then I will not get Permission denied?
[07:47] <hex20dec1> san: you can always rebuild master boot either way.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> ehsan_: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1490771
[07:47] <srini> hi
[07:48] <llutz_> Kartagis: nope, your sudo won't cross the >, thats why you get the denied error
[07:48] <Jordan_U> san: I recommend you run ppa-purge now, which will ensure that no packages from that ppa are still installed, and will then remove the ppa from your apt sources.
[07:48] <flintwingel> Kartagis: teh redirect > is setup by the shell before the sudo is run so it has the perms of teh user
[07:48] <allu2> Kartagis: long way to do it is to do first sudo -s and then the echo thingy
[07:48] <Jordan_U> !ppa-purge | san
[07:48] <san> hex20dec1: i know but i dont know the way or commands
[07:48] <Kartagis> llutz_: okay thanks
[07:48] <san> Jordan_U: which ppa?
[07:48] <chipotle> humungulous: i figured out a work around, thanks!
[07:48] <humungulous> chipotle: what did you do
[07:48] <chipotle> will sudo cp -R not fail for any file, i.e., i don't need an r flag in there too?
[07:49] <Kartagis> allu2: I'm trying to do it on crontab
[07:49] <Jordan_U> san: The ppa containing BURG.
[07:49] <chipotle> so if i go and copy over 1tb of data, i won't wake up disappointed that it got stuck at some file 10mb into it
[07:49] <allu2> Kartagis: ah ok, perhaps a shell script and cron to run it?
[07:49] <san> Jordan_U: sorry yesterday did many installations dont know which one is of BURG how do i find
[07:49] <okram> Hi guys how life
[07:49] <Kartagis> how can I make sure network-manager kicks in BEFORE cron does?
[07:50] <llutz_> Kartagis: theres no need to use sudo in crontabs, use system crontab
[07:50] <flintwingel> Kartagis: sudo bash -c "echo x.x.x.x > /etc/resolv.conf"
[07:50] <noodlr> ActionParsnip, thanks for the guake tip mate :)
[07:50] <Jordan_U> san: "apt-cache policy burg" should tell you what repository it came from.
[07:50] <kmdm> Hey guys, if I have a jaunty box... would it be fair/sane to dist-upgrade to karmic (via old-releases.ubuntu.com) to get to lucid? (since do-release-upgrade won't go jaunty to lucid)
[07:50] <allu2> Kartagis: can't you specify the nameserver via networkmanager?
[07:50] <noodlr> exit
[07:50] <Jordan_U> !eol | kmdm
[07:50] <Flannel> kmdm: yes, that's the way you'd do it.
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> noodlr: the kde equiv is yakuake. Should be default imho
[07:51] <san> Jordan_U: burg:
[07:51] <san>   Installed: (none)
[07:51] <san>   Candidate: 1.98+20100623-2.3
[07:51] <san>   Version table:
[07:51] <san>      1.98+20100623-2.3 0
[07:51] <FloodBot1> san: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:51] <DansTheMan> lol
[07:51] <chipotle> how do you use tab complete when you come across two similar file names with a space in it, e.g. /media/Test1 and /media/Test 1 -- if you want to tab complete to the latter, Test 1, what do you do?
[07:51] <doc-saintly> llutz_: SO I finally got Disk Utility to think about formatting the external drive, how do I check the progress?
[07:51] <Kartagis> allu2: I can, but I switch from time to time
[07:51] <chipotle> something with backslash?
[07:51] <humungulous> chipotle: yes, prefix backslash
[07:51] <hex20dec1> Question, I'm configuring my BIND server and it states to enter subdomains that I currently do not have set up, i.e: ns1.mydomain.com. Do I need to create these subdomains?
[07:51] <allu2> Kartagis: hum ok, so simple scrip you could run to change nameserver would sound easier
[07:51] <Jordan_U> san: Please use pastebin for anything more than one line.
[07:52] <kriskropd> chipotle /media/Test\ 1\ --
[07:52] <san> chipotle: ?
[07:52] <allu2> so it would change only when needed
[07:52] <san> Jordan_U: i am sorry
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: escape the space.  cd /media/Test\ 1
[07:52] <san> humungulous: ?
[07:52] <zykotick9> chipotle: /media/Test\ <TAB> should work
[07:52] <humungulous> san ?
[07:52] <kmdm> Jordan_U: Flannel: Ta for the answers :)
[07:53] <chipotle> got it, thanks!
[07:53] <Kartagis> allu2: I did that, but I was wondering why I was getting Permission denied when I tried to run it on console
[07:53] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: I can't think of anything at the moment. As a work around you could try installing GDM, but it's entirely possible that the problem is with X or some other subsystem rather than lightdm.
[07:53] <Kartagis> how can I make sure network-manager kicks in BEFORE cron does?
[07:53] <Jordan_U> kmdm: You're welcome.
[07:54] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: Okay. so, sudo apt-get install gdm? :S
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: change the number at the start of the symlink in the /etc/c.x folders
[07:55] <Jordan_U> DansTheMan: Yes.
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Rc.x   sorry
[07:55] <doc-saintly> How long should it take to format a 3tb drive to Ext4?
[07:55] <allu2> Kartagis: i'm not sure i understand what you really want to do, you need to use two different nameservers from time to time and you try to use cron to do what?
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> doc-saintly: depends on interface, spindle speed and many other factors
[07:56] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: Now I'm not connected to the itnernet for some reason :-/
[07:56] <doc-saintly> is there a way to check the progress?
[07:56] <Kartagis> allu2: on reboot, revert the resolv.conf
[07:56] <doc-saintly> ActionParsnip: it's not like it has to write all 3tb of data right?
[07:56] <jadoe> I managed to brake automatic asking for root password somehow. When I click in install in the Software Center, nothing happens. When I launch Synaptic without gksudo, nothing happens. Only manually starting with gksudo works. With gksudo fonts are broken in Software Center, though. How do I fix that?
[07:56] <linocisco> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/855049/
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> doc-saintly: depends what options you used
[07:56] <allu2> Kartagis: ah, how about a script that changes the nameserver and adding it to autostart?
[07:56] <Jordan_U> san: I'm going to be gone for about an hour, maybe more. Hopefully someone else can walk you through ppa-purge.
[07:57] <doc-saintly> ActionParsnip: I'm using the Disk Utility
[07:57] <hex20dec1> Question, I'm configuring my BIND server and it states to enter subdomains that I currently do not have set up, i.e: ns1.mydomain.com. Do I need to create these subdomains?
[07:57] <san> Jordan_U: Thanks anyways
[07:57] <san> Jordan_U: but
[07:57] <san> Jordan_U: hey wat about my gub
[07:57] <san> Jordan_U: will i be able to boot again
[07:58] <barramundi> YO NIGGA FREE BITCOINS http://bit.ly/4kzYKr
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> jadoe: what files have you been messing with?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> jadoe: ubuntu has no root pass either..
[07:58] <humungulous> hex20dec1: noone must know
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> doc-saintly: not sure dude. Just let it play. Read a book :-)
[07:59] <doc-saintly> ActionParsnip: ah, it's done now :) So how would you modify the DD command?
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> doc-saintly: to achieve what?
[08:00] <doc-saintly> to use DD to backup a drive with compression onto the EXT4 FS I just made
[08:00] <doc-saintly> I need to use compression in the stream because the destination drive is slightly smaller than the original. I would also like to be able to track progress :)
[08:00] <Jordan_U> san: Almost certainly yes. And to be sure we can check with qemu. Do you have qemu installed? (if not, "sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm")
[08:01] <Ben64> doc-saintly: 3TB is slightly smaller?
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> doc-saintly: if your system uses ext3 you can do all that with partimage
[08:01] <doc-saintly> they're ~13gb off
[08:01] <doc-saintly> ActionParsnip: the problem is the partition "disappeared" on my raid
[08:01] <doc-saintly> I want to do a DD backup of it before I try fsck
[08:02] <allu2> dd-rescue?
[08:02] <humungulous> doc-saintly: more appropriate to use cloning/imaging tools for that than dd
[08:02] <san> Jordan__U: then
[08:02] <Ben64> doc-saintly: its gonna be hugely cpu intensive
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> doc-saintly: then dd_rescue may help. Takes an image of the filesystem. Why didn't you backup BEFORE?
[08:03] <humungulous> partimage
[08:03] <monk13> hello all, im sure this is a very common problem but not sure how to fix. I have ubuntu installed on a VirtualBox vm. I wanted to turn off GUI so i did based on some googling: 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'  but it still starts up in GUI login.
[08:03] <zykotick9> !text | monk13
[08:03] <allu2> doc-saintly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Imaging_a_damaged_device.2C_filesystem_or_drive
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> monk13: just add the boot option: text
[08:04] <monk13> cool thanks guys. i'll check it out.. should i not have removed gdm then? should i restore it?
[08:04] <san> Jordan_U: what is the command for qemu
[08:04] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: doc-saintly: I would recommend GNU ddrescue over dd_rescue (they are not the same). GNU ddrescue is in the "gddrescue" package.
[08:04] <zykotick9> monk13: FYI ubuntu 11.10 doesn't use gdm, thus the failure of your command
[08:04] <doc-saintly> ActionParsnip: I have a backup of most of the important stuff that is ~2 weeks old
[08:04] <doc-saintly> ActionParsnip: the raid was 2.8tb full out of 3tb, and I backed up ~500gb of it to a separate 1tb drive
[08:05] <doc-saintly> acmeinc: the remaining 2.3tb is non-critical videos etc. But I would still like to recover the incremental 2 weeks of data if possible
[08:05] <monk13> zykotick9,  PS is the link still valid. i dont see the #Text Mode hash going anywhere.
[08:05] <Jordan_U> san: sudo losetup -r /dev/loop0 /dev/sda && sync && echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches && qemu -hda /dev/loop0
[08:05] <doc-saintly> and, does gddrescue work if the destination is smaller than the source?
[08:06] <flamengo1> Hi. When I try to add-apt-repository I obtain that:  "raise NoDistroTemplateException("Error: could not find a " "   In addition, I can't manage repositories with synaptic (it doesn't open the popup for choosing them)  ... how can I fix?  (oneiric)
[08:06] <linocisco> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/855089/
[08:06] <allu2> doc-saintly: well i guess you could pipe it to tar and compress it
[08:06] <Jordan_U> san: That should bring up a qemu window, and within that window you should see the beginning of a normal boot. It *will* fail to boot completely, because the disk is read only for safety, but if you get past the grub menu you know that grub is working.
[08:06] <zykotick9> monk13: sorry i don't understand what that means?
[08:06] <humungulous> doc-saintly: use an integrated tool that does the compression for you as a built in feature
[08:06] <monk13> the link in the help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode
[08:07] <monk13> The hash tag doesnt go anywhere so no info on it.
[08:07] <humungulous> doc-saintly: you are guilty of trying to reinvent the wheel here
[08:07] <Jordan_U> san: And do *not* pass /dev/sda directly to qemu. Always make a read only "copy" of it with losetup first like I did.
[08:07] <doc-saintly> ~sigh~ alright - what options do I have other than fsck? Is it even worth it to attempt to back it up?
[08:07] <san> Jordan_U: losetup: /dev/loop0: device is busy
[08:07] <monk13> i'll google it, just sayin' no info there in \!text
[08:07] <doc-saintly> humungulous: i'm not trying to do anything other than get my data back. I don't care how , but i'm always open to the easiest way
[08:07] <Ben64> doc-saintly: fsck usually works very well
[08:07] <Jordan_U> san: sudo losetup -r /dev/loop1 /dev/sda && sync && echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches && qemu -hda /dev/loop1
[08:08] <doc-saintly> Ben64: but the question is are there any other options? If not - is there any point in backing it up?
[08:08] <humungulous> doc-saintly: tell you the truth videos will not compress they are already incompressible
[08:08] <doc-saintly> humungulous: indeed, but the destination is only 13gb smaller, out of 3tb
[08:08] <Ben64> doc-saintly: it'd be quite hard to get stuff back if the filesystem is unfsckable
[08:08] <doc-saintly> i'm sure there's 13gb to be compressed somewhere in there considering only 2.8tb was used in the raid,
[08:08] <Kartagis> how can I make sure network-manager kicks in BEFORE cron does?
[08:09] <humungulous> doc-saintly: you could end up with larger size
[08:09] <doc-saintly> What do you guys think of cloneZilla as a method to back it up? will it be able to mount the raid?
[08:10] <san> Jordan_U: sorry i am not geting
[08:10] <san> Jordan_U: showing same msg device busy
[08:10] <allu2> Kartagis: make a script, put it to run on boot via cron, put somewhere something like sleep 60 etc and hope it works ^^
[08:10] <Jordan_U> san: Have you been mounting isos or similar a lot recently?
[08:10] <flamengo1> solved (nm)
[08:10] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: clonezilla is generally pretty good but if you're having problems with missing partions you'll be lucky if it works properly
[08:11] <doc-saintly> so, it sounds like I just need to fsck and pray
[08:11] <Jordan_U> san: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo losetup -a"?
[08:11] <san> Jordan_U: now i mounted partitions i transfered media to my portable harddisk today morning
[08:12] <san> Jordan_U: /dev/loop0: [0005]:6280 (/dev/sda)
[08:12] <san> /dev/loop1: [0005]:6280 (/dev/sda)
[08:12] <allu2> doc-saintly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Testdisk and photorec are good to recover file
[08:12] <longwuyuan> hi, is puppet better than enterprise-puppet
[08:12] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: fsck runs in to modes, automatic and manual. Automatic will try and fix everything the best way it knows how but it can get things wrong and screw up data. It's main purpose if to put the filesystem back into a consistent state
[08:13] <san> Jordan_U: it was NO and not NOW sorry
[08:13] <monk13> so i pressed Shift in the VM startin gup... Im in the grub menu. .... How should i add the text option? i don't see an option here to mess with how grub loads. Guess I need  to edit via command line/vi some file?
[08:13] <humungulous> true, testdisk and photorec will recover media off a raw disk with a blown partition table
[08:13] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: if it does screwup in auto mode yu can run it manually
[08:13] <doc-saintly> so flintwingel , tell me what you would do.
[08:13] <doc-saintly> I have a 3tb raid 5 that is missing its partition but otherwise is healthy, and no data has been written since the partition was lost. I have a 3tb that is slightly smaller than the raid 5 on a USB3 that is completely empty
[08:14] <Jordan_U> san: Try just "gksudo qemu -hda /dev/loop0".
[08:14] <humungulous> testdisk might be able to recover the partition table, actually
[08:14] <humungulous> but the RAID factor complicates everything
[08:14] <Ben64> doc-saintly: do you know what happened to it?
[08:15] <doc-saintly> Ben64: No. I installed a usb3 card, turned the system on, plugged in the drive, and then the partition for the raid was gone
[08:15] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: i'd do the dd backup you originally planned. DD from the raw device will not care about partitions & filesystems and at least it will give you  a way back to your current state and give you room to experiment
[08:15] <doc-saintly> flintwingel: so I know dd if=/dev/md0 | pigz ... ?
[08:15] <san> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/1pDUTX0G
[08:15] <doc-saintly> how do I specify to make a file out of it
[08:16] <hex20dec1> Question, I'm configuring my BIND server and it states to enter subdomains that I currently do not have set up, i.e: ns1.mydomain.com. Do I need to create these subdomains?
[08:16] <Ben64> doc-saintly: pigz?
[08:16] <doc-saintly> Ben64: multi-threaded gzip
[08:16] <DansTheMan> Jordan_U: Installing gdm worked.
[08:16] <monk13> zykotick9, any idea what to do once grub menu loads?
[08:16] <DansTheMan> But /me likes the presentation of lightdm. Ohh wells :-/
[08:16] <Ben64> doc-saintly: well with gzip you could do dd if=blah | gzip >> /mnt/directory/file.img
[08:16] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: what raid level and what devices?
[08:16] <Ben64> doc-saintly: if pigz works the same way, you could do that
[08:16] <doc-saintly> flintwingel: raid 5, 4x 1tb
[08:16] <doc-saintly> Ben64: thanks
[08:17] <san> Jordan_U: Hey! do i use Super Boot Manager to repair or check my grub? its easy there
[08:17] <doc-saintly> will DD list the progress?
[08:17] <doc-saintly> or is there a way to ask it to?
[08:17] <Ben64> doc-saintly: it will if you send it a sigusr1 ( i think )
[08:17] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: you can send dd sigusr1 and it will tell you how much data it has shipped up to that point
[08:17] <doc-saintly> Ben64:  :S not sure what that is
[08:17] <san> Jordan_U: yesterday when burg was not geting installed i changed the resolution and background image of grub2 it worked
[08:17] <Jordan_U> san: I don't know anything about Super Boot Manager personally, but I doubt it can do as foolproof of a verification as this.
[08:17] <Ben64> doc-saintly: gimme a sec to make sure
[08:17] <no_gravity> Hello! When I start a terminal via the menu, it starts in /home/user. I wonder, where this path is defined. Any ideas?
[08:18] <san> Jordan_U: so mmm? what now.......
[08:18] <humungulous> doc-saintly: kill -USR1 <pid>
[08:18] <Jordan_U> san: What happened when you ran "gksudo qemu /dev/loop0"?
[08:18] <monk13> !text
[08:18] <Ben64> doc-saintly: yep. start the dd, and "killall -SIGUSR1 dd"
[08:18] <Ben64> damn, humungulous beat me to it
[08:18] <doc-saintly> just seems scary to me to run the kill command to ask for progress
[08:18] <humungulous> thats how signals be sent
[08:18] <Ben64> doc-saintly: in a 2nd terminal you could do "watch -n60 killall -SIGUSR1 dd"
[08:19] <Ben64> and dd will print stats every minute
[08:19] <san> Jordan_U:  it is showing starting windows(win7 logon screen)
[08:19] <Jordan_U> san: Wow. I hadn't considered that you might have two drives and this might be the drive with Windows :)
[08:19] <Ben64> theres also a program that if you pipe info through it, it'll give you real time stats
[08:19] <doc-saintly> tyvm.
[08:20] <monk13> k i see, this helped more: http://askubuntu.com/questions/79033/how-to-switch-from-gui-to-console-mode
[08:20] <san> Jordan_U: yes i ihave two drives 1 500gb win7 and 1tb ubuntu
[08:20] <Ben64> doc-saintly: called pv
[08:20] <doc-saintly> cool. Thanks
[08:20] <san> Jordan_U: screen jerks for 2-3 secs and then starting windows
[08:20] <Jordan_U> san: Windows might complain a lot, but you don't need to worry as nothing on the drive can be modified by qemu. Shut down Windows and we'll do this with the right disk this time :)
[08:20] <Ben64>    1GB 0:00:10 [ 103MB/s] [         <=>                                       ] <--- example of pv
[08:21] <doc-saintly> So the DD is going. Now, when I run fsck, is there a way to know how successful it was?
[08:21] <Jordan_U> san: Is Windows shut down?
[08:21] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: it will tell you if there's anything it cant fix
[08:21] <humungulous> fsck -V
[08:21] <san> Jordan_U: actually i like ubuntu more but u know there are loads of softwares even games which suite win 7 ubuntu is still al lot behind in these matters so i have to keep both
[08:21] <doc-saintly> flintwingel: so, I DD it, I fsck it, then depending on what it says I give testdisk a try?
[08:22] <san> Jordan_U: i dint get you? i just closed the terminal after that i m right now in ubuntu
[08:22] <SubjectOne> is there an canto channel ?
[08:22] <Jordan_U> san: The qemu window is gone now, correct?
[08:22] <humungulous> doc-saintly: dont forget to grab your wang and pray
[08:22] <san> Jordan_U: yes i closed its terminal
[08:22] <doc-saintly> humungulous: lol, been doing that already
[08:22] <linocisco>  i got error on nslookup
 parse of /etc/resolv.conf failed
[08:22] <Jordan_U> san: OK, can you pastebin the output of "mount"?
[08:22] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: i thought the raid array had lost partition information ??
[08:22] <doc-saintly> i was about to /wrists when I got the "Ubuntu cannot load the /dev/md0 device"
[08:22] <Ben64> linocisco: pastebin the contents of that file
[08:22] <doc-saintly> flintwingel: it had
[08:23] <doc-saintly> has*
[08:23] <Iwen> 大家好！
[08:23] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: fsck works inside partition.... testdisk will have to come first to attempt to rebuild partition table
[08:23] <doc-saintly> humungulous: the worst part is that the whole reason I bought this 3tb device was to do a full backup on this raid. And the day I do that - it decides to take a dump
[08:23] <Jordan_U> !cn | Iwen
[08:24] <Iwen> Thank you
[08:24] <doc-saintly> flintwingel: so if the raid says it's currently unpartitioned, I would need to do testdisk first?
[08:24] <humungulous> ya
[08:24] <Jordan_U> Iwen: You're welcome.
[08:24] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: yes
[08:24] <humungulous> fsck operates on a volume
[08:24] <doc-saintly> What options would I run testDisk with on a raid 5 mdadm device?
[08:24] <san> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/2uWFz9AL
[08:24] <doc-saintly> i opened it briefly earlier and it started asking for type, Intel-PC was one of them,
[08:24] <Iwen>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[08:26] <Jordan_U> san: OK, please run "sudo losetup -d /dev/loop1 /dev/loop0" and tell me when you're done.
[08:27] <san> Jordan_U: done
[08:27] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: suggest you spend some time on the testdisk website (http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk before leaping in)
[08:27] <Jordan_U> san: Now please run "sudo losetup -r /dev/loop0 /dev/sda" and tell me when you're done.
[08:27] <san> Jordan_U: done
[08:27] <doc-saintly> flintwingel: thanks. will do. I'm hoping this thing speeds up :\ only getting 25MB/s on the DD
[08:27] <Jordan_U> san: "sync && echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches"
[08:27] <doc-saintly> going to be here 34 hours at this rate
[08:28] <san> Jordan_U: done
[08:28] <doc-saintly> does testdisk work with ext3? i think that's what the raid was
[08:28] <humungulous> doc-saintly: yes but the RAID makes everything a little complicated
[08:28] <doc-saintly> Of course :\
[08:28] <kk23> can you help me to use labels on partition and grub loads from label and not disk by id
[08:28] <humungulous> so you had 3 1.5 TB drives in RAID 5?
[08:29] <doc-saintly> I'm confused. testDisk is made by the same people as photorec?
[08:29] <doc-saintly> humungulous: 4x 1tb
[08:29] <Jordan_U> san: "gksudo qemu /dev/loop0"
[08:29] <hlbice> Everyone are waiting for ubuntu 12.04?
[08:29] <doc-saintly> oh durr. one is for partition recovery, the other is for files
[08:30] <humungulous> testdisk is actually a superset of photorec
[08:30] <san> Jordan_U: same after 2 sheks Starting Windows
[08:31] <humungulous> so you had this 4x 1tb RAID5 array on a hardware controller, was it chipset controlled or a card
[08:31] <Jordan_U> san: Doh. My mistake :)
[08:31] <san> Jordan_U: lols ^_^
[08:31] <doc-saintly> humungulous: no, it's an mdadm raid
[08:31] <doc-saintly> i'm looking at the testdisk site, and i still see the screen asking what the partition type is. would it be intel?
[08:31] <Jordan_U> san: "sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0 && sudo losetup -r /dev/loop0 /dev/sdb"
[08:31] <expertarun> hey how to change my mac address
[08:31] <expertarun> ?
[08:32] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: should have checked this earlier... is the raid array OK?
[08:32] <expertarun> hey how to change my adapters mac address
[08:32] <san> Jordan_U: done no output
[08:32] <humungulous> ok
[08:32] <doc-saintly> flintwingel: yes, the whole thing is ok, except it doesn't think it's partitioned
[08:32] <doc-saintly> just sees it as 3tb of nothing
[08:32] <expertarun> hey how to change my adapters mac address
[08:32] <humungulous> and this started when you added a usb3.0 card
[08:32] <Jordan_U> san: "gksudo qemu /dev/loop0"
[08:32] <ServerSage_> expertarun: Stop flooding.
[08:32] <expertarun> then say
[08:33] <Ben64> thats not how it works here
[08:33] <ServerSage_> expertarun: You want to look at /etc/network/interfaces and put in hwaddress ether MAC
[08:33] <expertarun> via terminal
[08:33] <doc-saintly> Well, I appreciate everyone's help. I'll probably leave this window open for a while.
[08:33] <ServerSage_> expertarun: Woah there sunshine, you don't flood and make demands.  Nobody here gets paid, we aren't your e-slaves.
[08:33] <doc-saintly> I'm going to (try) to sleep a bit
[08:34] <humungulous> sleep? pfft
[08:34] <ubuntu-guy> hi guys!!
[08:34] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: good luck
[08:34] <expertarun> then plz can u say via terminal?
[08:34] <san> error: hd0 out of disk Press any key to conitnue... then i press and ubuntu loading screen appears
[08:34] <doc-saintly> humungulous: I  thought I was going to start this quick backup operation before i went to sleep... 4 hours ago
[08:34] <humungulous> expertarun: sudo pico /etc/network/interfaces
[08:34] <ubuntu-guy> I need some help customizing Ubuntu live cd
[08:34] <doc-saintly> but no, I have to fight to get my data to be able to back it up :\
[08:34] <ServerSage_> expertarun: Any text editor will do.
[08:35] <doc-saintly> thanks flintwingel, i'm sure i'll be in here crying again tomorrow
[08:35] <doc-saintly> (or later today rather)
[08:35] <san> Jordan_U: BusyBox terminal like
[08:35] <cJether> f
[08:35] <Jordan_U> san: Great. That's exactly what should happen. Grub will work fine on reboot :)
[08:35] <bazhang> !uck | ubuntu-guy
[08:35] <humungulous> doc-saintly: sleep sleep go
[08:35] <ubuntu-guy> Just two things 1. want to change the hostname 2. And the splash scree
[08:36] <san> Jordan_U: Thanks a lot buddy you have great knowledge i will take care of windows all i fear is ubuntu not booting because i dont know much in linux
[08:36] <expertarun> is there any software like netcut to view mac address of connected network?
[08:36] <Jordan_U> san: You're welcome.
[08:36] <san> Jordan_U: Thank You
[08:36] <san> humungulous: Thank You
[08:37] <expertarun> how to edit interface
[08:38] <humungulous> expertarun i told you above
[08:38] <expertarun> anyone there?
[08:38] <expertarun> how to edit interface
[08:38] <answernow> gfdgs
[08:38] <ServerSage_> expertarun: Seriously, ask once and wait.  I told you how to edit the interface file.
[08:38] <answernow> what is the lightest Linux that can use OpenVPN? be precise
[08:39] <expertarun> then what to do in auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[08:39] <ikonia> answernow: any linux distro can
[08:40] <humungulous> expertarun: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/
[08:40] <ubuntu-guy> First question how can i change the hostname please ? It possible to change using "hostname somehost" command but i want to change it for CD . I have tried to edit /etc/hosts , /etc/hostname, /etc/resolves etc but does not work... Please help me
[08:40] <ikonia> ubuntu-guy: you can't change it for the CD
[08:40] <hasenj> recently my unity has been acting weird, like I can't move windows, I can't type on the keyboard .. etc
[08:43] <Iwen> anybody  interested in this:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1000765&highlight=cluster  which   is about  "desktop cluster" or virtualization
[08:44] <ubuntu-guy> ikonia, thanks for reply... But i have seen that some peoples did it . Such as gnatrack, http://www.gnacktrack.co.uk/images/screenshot9.png
[08:44] <ubuntu-guy> root@GnaTrack:~#
[08:44] <ikonia> ubuntu-guy: typing "hostname $new_name" will set the hostname, but it really "won't" set the hostname properly
[08:44] <ikonia> ubuntu-guy: also that is just the PS1 prompt, ubuntu-guy try PS1='james@bigbox' and you'll see that prompt change
[08:44] <Paddy_NI> Hey I removed nautilus nautilus (as I am using kde) via "apt-get remove nautilus" my problem is I no longer get compositing..  any one have any ideas what I can do to get compositing back?
[08:45] <expertarun> is there any software to look mac address of connected devices?
[08:45] <expertarun> is there any software to look mac address of connected devices?
[08:45] <Ben64> expertarun: just ask once
[08:45] <ubuntu-guy> ikonia, Do i need to edit any text configuration file for that?
[08:46] <flintwingel> expertarun: arp -a will tell the you mac addrs of devices that have recently communicated with your system
[08:46] <ikonia> Iwen: you've already been given the answer that what you want to do isn't possible
[08:46] <ikonia> ubuntu-guy no, just type it in the terminal
[08:46] <ikonia> ubuntu-guy: eg "PS1='ikonia@yourbox'
[08:46] <ServerSage_> expertarun: You mended netcut, tuxcut is supposedly just like it for linux.  You can also run ifconfig in a terminal.
[08:46] <ikonia> ubuntu-guy: be aware that's not changing the hostname
[08:47] <ServerSage_> expertarun: And stop bloody flooding.  Ask your question ONCE and then count to a million before asking again.
[08:47] <ikonia> ubuntu-guy: you'll also find that the person in that screen shot isn't using ubuntu, but a varient called "gnattrack"
[08:47] <ikonia> gnacktrack sorry
[08:48] <ikonia> ubuntu-guy: does that explain things a bit better for you ?
[08:48] <expertarun> have anyone used netcut
[08:49] <ikonia> expertarun: do you have a question about it, or do you just want to know if people are using it ?
[08:49] <expertarun> yes i want
[08:49] <expertarun> have anyone used netcut
[08:49] <ikonia> expertarun: do you want to know if people are using it, or do you have a question about netcut ?
[08:49] <expertarun> both
[08:50] <ServerSage_> expertarun: If you have a question about it, ask.
[08:50] <ServerSage_> expertarun: It's a windows product though (if I'm not mistaken) so it's not really appropriate for #ubuntu.
[08:50] <ikonia> expertarun: what does it matter if anyones used it - but if you have a question about it, just ask what you want to know
[08:51] <expertarun> how to view mac of all the devices connected in the hotspot
[08:51] <ikonia> ServerSage_: thanks for the info
[08:51] <ikonia> expertarun: that's nothing to do with ubuntu - that depends on your hot spot software
[08:51] <ServerSage_> ikonia: What info?  :)
[08:51] <ubuntu-guy> ikonia, i see, Make me it more clear, I am following this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization . Now i want to change the default setting of ubuntu such as the Boot splash(Plymouth) and CD host name(Prompt) and then write to a DVD or CD. And when i will boot my own live cd it will show my customized Boot splash and the prompt hostname(Such as (love-ubuntu@ikonia).
[08:51] <ikonia> ServerSage: on netcut
[08:52] <ikonia> ubuntu-guy: enjoy
[08:52] <flintwingel> expertarun: kismet
[08:52] <expertarun> thanks
[08:52] <ubuntu-guy> Just i need with this two things "host" and "Splash"
[08:52] <expertarun> other any software
[08:52] <ubuntu-guy> *help
[08:53] <ikonia> expertarun: it depends on the hot spot you are running
[08:53] <expertarun> hey i want to know the mac address of the connected pc s
[08:53] <ikonia> expertarun: what is your hotspot device ?
[08:54] <expertarun> its wireless
[08:54] <expertarun> ?
[08:54] <ikonia> expertarun: what is the device ?
[08:54] <expertarun> say me how to
[08:54] <ikonia> expertarun: what is your hotspot device (as in physical device)
[08:54] <expertarun> 10.75.12.1
[08:54] <Ben64> use nmap
[08:54] <ikonia> expertarun: no
[08:54] <ServerSage> expertarun: Make and model.  As in what company makes it and what model is it?
[08:55] <ikonia> expertarun: what device (is it a netgear for example) is your wireless hot spot device
[08:55] <flamengo1> hi. is there a deb package for vlc mozilla plugin 2.0?
[08:55] <expertarun> 00:e0:1c:3d:ae:a7
[08:55] <expertarun> say
[08:55] <ikonia> expertarun: I'll ask one more time
[08:55] <M4dH4TT3r> what brand?
[08:55] <ikonia> expertarun: what is the physical device make/model/brand
[08:55] <doc-saintly> technically - the mac will tell you what brand (as long as he hasn't changed it yet)
[08:55] <expertarun> say
[08:55] <Ben64> 00E01C 	Cradlepoint, Inc (was: Mobility Electronicsy)
[08:55] <expertarun> 00:e0:1c:3d:ae:a7
[08:56] <expertarun> i don't know stupid
[08:56] <expertarun> say me plz
[08:56] <soreau> What's the next LTS?
[08:57] <ikonia> ServerSage: 12.04
[08:57] <expertarun> how to know the mac address of connected devices?
[08:57] <ikonia> oops
[08:57] <expertarun> how to know the mac address of connected devices?
[08:57] <bazhang> 12.04 soreau
[08:57] <expertarun> how to know the mac address of connected devices?
[08:57] <expertarun> how to know the mac address of connected devices?
[08:57] <FloodBot1> expertarun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:57] <soreau> thanks
[08:57] <ikonia> soreau: 12.04
[08:57] <ikonia> expertarun: this won't end well,
[08:57] <ikonia> expertarun: lets try a a different approach
[08:57] <ikonia> expertarun: is the wireless hot spot YOUR device, do you own it ?
[08:57] <Ben64> he's already been given solutions
[08:57] <expertarun> no
[08:57] <Ben64> its his fault he won't listen
[08:57] <ikonia> expertarun: then this conversation is over
[08:57] <ikonia> expertarun: talk to the person who owns the device
[08:58] <doc-saintly> I'm currently running ubuntu server 10.04, I dislike Unity. Should I upgrade? If so, to what?
[08:58] <ubuntu-guy> I will be ubuntu ninja ;)
[08:58] <doc-saintly> In light of my raid crap-out this wouldn't be a bad time to upgrade
[08:58] <ikonia> expertarun: I get the impression you are trying to miss-use someome elses hotspot
[08:58] <ikonia> doc-saintly: try some livecd's see what desktop you like
[08:58] <ubuntu-guy> ikonia, Can i do what i am trying to do please?
[08:58] <expertarun> getoff dog
[08:58] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: look at linux mint
[08:58] <doc-saintly> ikonia: I've played around with Mint, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc., But i'm wondering if they will be functionally the same
[08:59] <doc-saintly> Also - is Ubuntu going to use unity from now on?
[08:59] <ServerSage> I'm going to do my happy dance now.
[08:59] <ikonia> ubuntu-guy: sure
[08:59] <ikonia> doc-saintly: ubuntu will be using unity for the future, yes
[08:59] <doc-saintly> if I use something like Kubuntu/Mint, can I expect the same repo's to work etc?
[09:00] <rigved> doc-saintly: ubuntu server does not include a GUI by default. so you can upgrade to ubuntu server 11.10 without having to use unity (you will be using CLI). unless you want a GUI on a server. in which case, you can use any of the alternative DEs like Gnome Shell, KDE, XFCE, LXDE etc.
[09:00] <ikonia> doc-saintly: no
[09:00] <ubuntu-guy> ikonia, thanks for giving me some motivation.... Not understand where i should start for changing this two things correctly.. I need some help
[09:00] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: pretty much, I've been using Xubuntu, Kubuntu and Mint for a few years and been able to sue the same repos
[09:00] <ikonia> ubuntu-guy: read the documentation, if you can't work out where to start, it's probably beyond your ability at this time
[09:00] <doc-saintly> rigved: well i'm not sure I actually got the server version, but rather just the regular and use it as a server
[09:01] <ubuntu-guy> ikonia, Any suggested Link  or tutorial please?
[09:01] <rigved> doc-saintly: there is a separate server version. it is command-line based and more suited for a server. there is no need to have a GUI on a server, right? it seems like a waste of resources...
[09:02] <flintwingel> doc-saintly: or equivalent. Some of the distros maintain their own version of the core Ub repo
[09:02] <ikonia> ubuntu-guy: sorry no
[09:02] <ubuntu-guy> OK
[09:02] <doc-saintly> rigved: well, "server" is relative. I also have it hooked up to a tv to play the videos it hosts :)
[09:02] <doc-saintly> flintwingel: understood, but there's a lot of programs that are lucky to be in the ubuntu repo's, let alone a subset (if it's not compatible with the ubuntu repo)
[09:03] <doc-saintly> Thanks for the advice though :)
[09:04] <Deim0s> hello all
[09:04] <Deim0s> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and have a configured a LAMP server, everything works just fine except my virtual hosts
[09:04] <Deim0s> this server is supposed to host multiple Vhosts, and this is is the configuration of one of them
[09:04] <mosno> is there a way to make it so i can close a maximised window by slamming my  pointer in the top-left and clicking?
[09:04] <Deim0s> http://pastebin.com/ryzxE2uK
[09:04] <Deim0s> when I access the localhost or the deimos.ma domain name I reach my hello world page without a problem
[09:04] <Deim0s> but when I try to access it with hope.deimos.ma as I setted it up in my ServerName directive of my Vhost I get an error from the browser
[09:05] <mosno> ie. pos 0,0 instead of moving down/right to actually hit the X button
[09:05] <Deim0s> how can I fix this please, thank you in advance !
[09:05] <spudman10392> woah there is alot of people in here.
[09:06] <terminhell> not as many as you'd think
[09:06] <Deim0s> spudman10392, 1496
[09:06] <Deim0s> this is a record for me
[09:06] <rigved> doc-saintly: oh. ok. you should give the new unity (soon to be released in 12.04) a try. it has improved a lot. or you can use one of the other alternative desktop environments (DEs).
[09:07] <spudman10392> ya, Never seen this many people in IRC before (only been using it for a year lol)
[09:07] <txdv> 1500
[09:07] <txdv> xD
[09:07] <M4dH4TT3r> <<---likes unity
[09:08] <M4dH4TT3r> mtu?
[09:08] <spudman10392> so, I have been technically using ubuntu 10.04, I like it. alot
[09:08] <terminhell> technically, congrats
[09:09] <spudman10392> yes :) I kinda use backtrack (Don't start bashing, I'm not some idiot kid)
[09:11] <hateball> Deim0s: you may get better answers in #apache
[09:11] <hateball> Deim0s: assuming that's the httpd you're using :)
[09:12] <m4k> I installed ubuntu using debootstrap, after booting it only get a black screen
[09:13] <Deim0s> hateball, thanks but nobody is answering me
[09:13] <ikonia> Deim0s: try #httpd
[09:14] <Deim0s> ikonia, same I am there
[09:14] <Deim0s> :P
[09:14] <ikonia> Deim0s: do you have a dns entry for hope.deimos.ma
[09:14] <Anomie21> Does this page not load fully for anyone else? http://ablemagazine.co.uk/    Works fine in windows/macosx
[09:15] <Deim0s> ikonia, I have one for deimos.ma wich redirects me to 127.0.0.1
[09:15] <ikonia> Anomie21: please don't spam
[09:15] <ikonia> Deim0s: then that's why it's not working
[09:15] <ikonia> Deim0s: you need one for each hostname
[09:15] <terminhell> Anomie21: looks fine to me. try clearing your browser stuff
[09:15] <Oer> Anomie21, nope, blank screen.
[09:15] <Anomie21> ikonia: I'm not spamming?
[09:16] <Anomie21> terminhell: you on chrome or ff?
[09:16] <terminhell> Anomie21: chrome
[09:16] <M4dH4TT3r> Anomie21 to ikonia link=spam
[09:16] <Deim0s> ikonia, wow ok
[09:16] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r: I'll speak for myself thanks
[09:16] <M4dH4TT3r> k
[09:16] <Deim0s> ikonia, I will check that
[09:16] <Anomie21> weird, it only loads to the first post (which has a quicktime video in it) must be a conflict with quicktime/chrome/mypc
[09:17] <Anomie21> *to the third post
[09:17] <m4k> I installed ubuntu using debootstrap, after booting it only get a black screen
[09:17] <M4dH4TT3r> how you been ikonia?
[09:17] <expertarun> how to know my mac address
[09:17] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r: it's not a chat channel as you know - so please
[09:17] <terminhell> expertarun: its listed in ifconfig or iwconfig
[09:17] <M4dH4TT3r> ok
[09:17] <m4k> Expertru: hcitool scan
[09:18] <Anomie21> jesus who put ikonia in charge lol, lighten up
[09:18] <m4k> I installed ubuntu using debootstrap, after booting it only get a black screen
[09:18] <llutz_> !repeat | m4k
[09:19] <terminhell> m4k: have you tried rebooting a few times
[09:19] <m4k> Terminhell: there is no login options
[09:20] <ikonia> m4k: what desktop / login manager have you installed ?
[09:20] <terminhell> m4k: im not familiar with debootstrap
[09:21] <m4k> Ikonia: i installed command line system using debootstrap
[09:21] <ikonia> m4k: ok - so what is the issue ?
[09:22] <m4k> Ikonia: when booting to that no login scree
[09:22] <ikonia> m4k: ok - what is the last boot message you see
[09:23] <terminhell> *i think i know where this is going...
[09:23] <m4k> Not any boot message. Only a cursor blinking after boot
[09:24] <ikonia> m4k: you must see some boot messages as the system boots
[09:24] <terminhell> disable quiet boot in bios?
[09:24] <ikonia> terminhell: it's a debootstrap built, plymouth won't be there
[09:24] <llutz_> m4k: check your grub.cfg or whatever bootmanager you use, what boot options do you use, what kernel-line etc.pp
[09:25] <terminhell> ikonia: ah, yea, not familiar with that process.
[09:25] <m4k> I selected that from grub.
[09:25] <ikonia> m4k: you must get boot up messages
[09:25] <ikonia> m4k: do you see the kernel boot ?
[09:27] <m4k> Any packages for installation to get login screen in cli system
[09:28] <meadhikari> please help i keep getting "(Reading database ...
[09:28] <meadhikari> dpkg: warning: files list file for package `libboost-system1.42.0' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[09:28] <meadhikari> (Reading database ... 95%dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[09:28] <meadhikari>  files list file for package 'libboost-thread1.42.0' is missing final newline
[09:28] <meadhikari> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)"
[09:28] <FloodBot1> meadhikari: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:29] <llutz_> m4k: pastebin the corresponding menuentry-lines from grub.cfg, and the output of "sudo fdisk -l" pls
[09:29] <ikonia> m4k: - as you refuse to answer the questions I'm asking, I'll ask something more simple
[09:29] <meadhikari> Sorry, I keep getting http://pastebin.com/T4KLLfpz whenever i try to install new software
[09:29] <ikonia> m4k: why are you debootstrapping a system when you clearly don't understand what you are doing or how to manage the system's build
[09:30] <m4k> Ikonia: i will contact you later. Now im in my phone i'm going to on my system
[09:31] <sally> hello world
[09:31] <terminhell> -,-
[09:35] <jonah_> hi does anyone know how to run an fsck from recovery mode please?
[09:35] <ikonia> jonah_: what file system do you want to check /home for example ?
[09:35] <jonah_> i've ran repair kernel boot up and pressed fsck but it doesn't seem to be doing anything
[09:35] <ikonia> jonah_: what file system do you want to check /home for example ?
[09:36] <jonah_> ikonia: it's just a standard kubuntu install i want to check the whole disk drive for errors
[09:36] <jonah_> ikonia: having massive problems with my computer just freezing
[09:37] <ikonia> jonah_: that will not be an fsck issue
[09:39] <jonah_> ikonia: well i have a laptop which didn't work well with standard kernel on install so i updated to mainline ppa kernel and headers etc. it was working great for days. then i tried to install vmware player and virutal box. they didn't install properly so tried to remove them and now after i boot up after a minute everything locks up and mouse freezes and everything
[09:40] <ikonia> jonah_: to be honest that doesn't cut it for me "doesn't work well with standard kernel, (howdid you know it wa a kernel problem) updated to a PPA kernel it worked until I did more changes now it doesn't work
[09:40] <ikonia> jonah_: it sounds like you are just trying random things to fix things
[09:40] <jonah_> ikonia: i just thought an fsck would be the first thing to try to recover my system as i've had to turn it off a few times as can't shut down so wanted to check the disk was ok
[09:41] <ikonia> jonah_: if the disk wasn't in a usable state you'd have errors/warnings
[09:41] <stephans_> I am running atop and it is idicating red for vmcom: 5.3G and vmlim of 3.8... what does this mean?
[09:41] <jonah_> ikonia: i'm sorry, i didn't mean to do the wrong thing but i followed the ubuntu wiki advice to update the kernel here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbook
[09:42] <jonah_> ikonia: i just want to recover my system that's all and don't know how to get it back how it was yesterday
[09:42] <ikonia> jonah_: ok - so that's a bit different, you're following official advice - which is good, doing it "blind" isn't a problem, but then you're changing it by doing thing ssuch as using vmware which requires kernel modules
[09:42] <Ben64> ppa kernel can cause all sorts of problems
[09:42] <Ben64> i'd suggest using precise over ppa kernel
[09:42] <Akls> I have a project and I'd like to keep track of the changes in case I would like to return back. Should I use Git or Bazaar?
[09:43] <jonah_> ikonia: i know i wish i'd just left it! Is there anything I can do to sort it out?
[09:43] <ikonia> jonah_: Vmware installs kernel modules, they may/may not be stable with the PPA kernel you are using, it's about trouble shooting the problem and working it through, rather than throwing random things at it
[09:43] <ikonia> jonah_: you where probably right to change the kernel looking at that URL
[09:43] <jonah_> Ben64: it was working fine though, it must be since trying to remove vmware because that's where the trouble has started
[09:44] <cga> hi all, my message tray is hidden at the bottom of the screen. how can I make it show? or move it at the top?
[09:44] <jonah_> ikonia: i don't know how to now debug and fix this, are you able to help me at all please? if i can get it back how it was i'll never mess with it again i promise!!
[09:45] <ikonia> jonah_: I've never used that hardware platform, so I'd need to research what's different that requires a different kernel
[09:45] <ikonia> jonah_: you may (this is only a high level suggestion) find it easier to re-install clearn
[09:46] <x25cb> ubuntu on android looks really great
[09:46] <x25cb> when can we have taste on it?
[09:46] <ikonia> x25cb: app store
[09:46] <jonah_> ikonia: is there no way to just remove all the vmware and virtual box addons/kernel mods
[09:46] <ikonia> jonah_: you where using vmware and virtal box
[09:47] <Simom> did you use the same kernel for android and ubuntu?
[09:47] <x25cb> ikonia: i think you mean market? :p
[09:47] <jonah_> ikonia: i installed vmware player and virtual box only it didn't work due to the kernel being the updated rc one. then i couldn't uninstall them. and now ever since the system is unstable
[09:47] <ikonia> x25cb: sure
[09:47] <ikonia> jonah_: if I where you - I would re-install
[09:48] <ikonia> jonah_: get a known good clean platform
[09:48] <jonah_> ikonia: ok fair enough i'll do that then
[09:48] <jonah_> thanks
[09:49] <x25cb> ikonia: i actually mean this one: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[09:49] <x25cb> released already?
[09:50] <ikonia> x25cb: don't know, what does it say on the page,
[09:50] <ikonia> I don't believe it is,
[09:50] <meadhikari> please help i keep getting http://pastebin.com/T4KLLfpz when installing new application
[09:50] <doda_> hi, how do i disable wifi suspend when closing the lid in lubuntu
[09:50] <x25cb> ikonia: i guess it's not yet released too, seems only a youtube demo is released. really looking forward to that
[09:51] <M4dH4TT3r> you talking about pushing ubuntu on a droid dev?
[09:51] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r: read the link
[09:51] <M4dH4TT3r> i did
[09:52] <Beelsebob> Is there any way to stop software centre closing after you uninstall something?
[09:52] <M4dH4TT3r> i gotta push bt5 on a gps dev here soon but need to add wifi and bt first
[09:52] <Ben64> hmm, clock on that page says 12:04
[09:52] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r: that explains the project/plan then
[09:52] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r: not interested in that in #ubuntu
[09:52] <x25cb> MedH4TT3r: it looks like some addon to the android system to allow ubuntu to run on that
[09:52] <M4dH4TT3r> lol :P
[09:53] <M4dH4TT3r> i saw it done with ubuntu before there was a tut somewhere just a sec
[09:54] <x25cb> maybe just the compliation of ubuntu packages on android platform, so that they can share the same linux based kernel
[09:55] <ikonia> the link explains what it does quite clearly
[09:55] <Myrtti> there is some discussion over Ubuntu on Android going on in #ubuntu-phone, which - while it isn't the proper channel for the discussion - is the best place for it for now. Feel free to discuss it over there.
[09:55] <x25cb> Myrtti: oh, noted! thanks :)
[09:55] <Beelsebob> god this is retardedly dificult to work with
[09:56] <Beelsebob> why the hell does the tree view reload and close whatever I'm looking at when something finishes uninstalling
[09:56] <ikonia> Beelsebob: tone it down please.
[09:56] <Beelsebob> and why the hell does the whole app close when all the in progress uninstalls finish?
[09:57] <Beelsebob> it makes it virtually impossible to work down the list uninstalling stuff you don't need any more
[09:57] <ikonia> Beelsebob: log a feature/bug if you want to change it's behaviour and can't
[09:58] <afsal> how to become a ubuntu expert
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> afsal  by using it
[09:58] <ikonia> afsal: use ubuntu and gain experience with it
[09:58] <NyLes> please inform me, nouveau wll be the default driver if nvidia drivers are not installed right?
[09:58] <M4dH4TT3r> http://www.99cblog.com/2972/install-ubuntu-on-your-htc-evo-4g-device-video/ closest i could find for the driod ubuntu push (there was only one when i did this the last time)
[09:58] <afsal> ikonia: i'm m4k
[09:58] <ikonia> NyLes: depends if/how your card is detected
[09:58] <ikonia> afsal: that doesn't change what I said
[09:59] <NyLes> ikonia: what do you mean?
[09:59] <crizzy> Ugnutu
[09:59] <crizzy> *Ubnutu :P
[09:59] <afsal> ikonia: okkk
[09:59] <crizzy> is it really that hard to write :P
[09:59] <ikonia> NyLes: if your card is detected as a compatible nvidia when xorg starts, it will try to use the nouveau xorg modules
[10:00] <NyLes> ikonia: i see, is there a possibility that i can force it to use nouveau drivers? in my xorg?
[10:00] <NyLes> ikonia: i see, is there a possibility that i can force it to use nouveau drivers? in my xorg.conf?
[10:00] <ikonia> NyLes: yes
[10:00] <afsal> MonkeyDust: which parts of ubuntu i use
[10:00] <NyLes> ikonia: how? can you please tell me?
[10:00] <ikonia> afsal: all of it and focus on parts you want to understand
[10:01] <ikonia> NyLes: change the Driver line to be Driver "nouveau"
[10:01] <NyLes> ikonia: thanks so much..
[10:01] <afsal> ikonia: few daya i'm installed ubuntu in my flash drive and that run fine....
[10:02] <ikonia> afsal: that has no relevence to anything
[10:03] <afsal> ikonia: now i'm try to install ubuntu via debootstrap...
[10:03] <ikonia> afsal why ?
[10:03] <ikonia> afsal: why not just install ubuntu and use it - learn fom using it
[10:03] <afsal> ikonia: just for fun and study...
[10:04] <ikonia> afsal: but you have no idea what you are doing, and all you are doing is asking "how do I fix, how do I fix" all the time, that's not learning, that just asking someone else to fix things you do'nt know how to do
[10:05] <afsal> ikonia: your right,,,, :-(
[10:07] <afsal> ikonia: then how i fix problems to by myself. where i study???
[10:07] <afsal> what i study
[10:07] <ikonia> afsal: I've told you "use" ubuntu and learn from using it
[10:08] <afsal> ikonia: thank you for your advice.
[10:09] <afsal> ikonia: i intrstd in studying bash give any tutorial...
[10:10] <ikonia> afsal: if you are inacapable of researching the application you want to study, you will not be able to grasp the actual application.
[10:10] <Oer> afsal, join #Bash for learning :-)
[10:11] <auska> Hi! Is there any why to force Unity to NEVER open the menu bar?
[10:11] <crizzy> 'open the menu bar'?
[10:11] <crizzy> you mean, removing the global menu or?
[10:11] <mi3> HI!
[10:12] <crizzy> auska: global menu bar can be removed with: sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu appmenu-gtk
[10:12] <Oer> auska, a solution is to 'never hide' the menubar, so it will stay, bu tnever open is no option.
[10:12] <crizzy> auska: or.. sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk indicator-applet-appmenu indicator-appmenu, that's all packages related to it i think
[10:12] <san> please help me banshee player is not working in my 11.10 it is upto date i also upgraded to banshee 2.2 still not working sometimes it works not most times what do i do?
[10:12] <afsal> ikonia: ok, then you said "using", actually what you mean by application
[10:13] <ikonia> afsal: correct
[10:13] <mi3> I use opera browser on my ubuntu and when I open pages on multiple tabs and then close them , my RAM is not freed, it remains the same, RAM gets freed only upon closing the browser.
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> afsal  start here http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Linux_Essentials
[10:14] <M4dH4TT3r> sick of my language i said one cuss word and then minused it
[10:14] <afsal> Thnk u monkey dust
[10:14] <exco> is this the right place to ask for help regarding finding the cause why my PC won't boot sometimes and filing an according bug?
[10:15] <auska> crizzy, I did it, is there any way to restart the X without rebooting?
[10:15] <afsal> ikonia: I can undrsnt frm u "use ubuntu, and fix the bugs while the using"
[10:16] <mi3> I use opera browser on my ubuntu and when I open pages on multiple tabs and then close them , my RAM is not freed, it remains the same, RAM gets freed only upon closing the browser.
[10:16] <afsal> ikonia: I can undrsnt frm u "use ubuntu, and fix the bugs while using"
[10:16] <ikonia> afsal: if you don't know how to even use ubuntu, you will have no chance of fixing bugs
[10:16] <ikonia> afsal: learn how to use ubuntu
[10:17] <afsal> ikonia: Ok,
[10:17] <crizzy> auska: yeah, just logout and login again
[10:17] <mi3> afsal are you accustomed with windows atleast?
[10:17] <NyLes> can someone help me with my sound card? i've tried everything but still doesn't work.. it produces a somewhat buzzing sound "zzzzzzzzzz" whenever the mouse is moved.. aplay -l results wit no soundcards found..
[10:18] <amt0101> How do you start a program after you installed it using wine? I am running ubuntu 11.10 on unity.
[10:18] <auska> crizzy, it didn't work... i still have the menu bar... :S
[10:18] <crizzy> auska: applications should not use it, though, no?
[10:18] <exco> any hints on where to look if my pc sometimes stops during Ubuntu splash (boot)
[10:19] <mi3> any suggestions on the opera browser problem I mentioned earlier?
[10:19] <auska> crizzy, theorically not, is the unity menu bar, is not related to the other applications...
[10:19] <afsal> mi3: No, (time taken to reply because i'm finding meaning of "accustomed")
[10:19] <crizzy> auska: if you mean only leaving the launcher panel at left... that's not possible. but removing those packages, applications will keep their own menu
[10:19] <mi3> hehe
[10:19] <stimpie> when I use rdesktop in fullscreen in a dual monitor setup it uses the wrong screen. How do change which screen is primary?
[10:19] <afsal> mi3: i'm from india
[10:20] <afsal> mi3: i'm indian
[10:20] <mi3> afsal: means do you know how to use windows atleast? even I am from INDIA no big deal
[10:20] <drsource> im from Bulgaria
[10:20] <mi3> i am an indian[proud to be called an indian]
[10:21] <mi3> afsal tumhe pataa hai windows kaise use karna hai?
[10:21] <amt0101> No one knows how to run a program after it was installed with wine under unity...ubuntu 11.10?
[10:21] <auska> crizzy, what i want is not to have the launcer panel at left...
[10:21] <crizzy> auska: that is bolted there and not possible to move (without serious hacks)
[10:21] <afsal> mi3: hindi thoda thoda maaloom. i'm in kerala
[10:22] <crizzy> kerala
[10:22] <crizzy> nice area
[10:22] <mi3> amt0101 make the file executable from the properties option then run it from wine
[10:22] <exco_> amt0101, just search for the name in unity menu und click on it
[10:22] <amt0101> mi3,  it's already installed :)
[10:22] <afsal> mi3: yes for your qstion
[10:22] <afsal> mi3: hindi thoda thoda maaloom. i'm in kerala
[10:22] <NyLes> i mean any action in the desktop produces that sound, card is Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller..
[10:22] <amt0101> exco_,  searching for internet explorer returns me nothing ;)
[10:22] <mi3> afsal: hmm
[10:23] <exco_> amt0101,  iexplore?
[10:23] <crizzy> afsal: i've visited varkala, alleppey, kochi and munnar there ^^
[10:23] <lixman> alguien que hable español??
[10:23] <T_H_X> auska: yu can move it with compiz settings manager
[10:23] <mi3> afsal: then you should know what is an app
[10:23] <afsal> mi3: where are you from
[10:23] <mi3> cant tell that
[10:23] <afsal> crizzy: where are you from
[10:23] <crizzy> afsal: finland
[10:24] <afsal> mi3: ho ho
[10:24] <jesseh> hello
[10:24] <mi3> afsal, tell me what is an app
[10:24] <afsal> crizzy: nice. How was keral
[10:24] <amt0101> exco_,  returns nothing:) as well
[10:24] <crizzy> afsal: pretty nice.. spent 5 weeks touring india, from varkala up to simla, and some eastern areas like varanasi
[10:25] <mi3> amt0101 what happened
[10:25] <crizzy> afsal: kerala i liked most tbh.. ppl at north were a lot less nice :D
[10:25] <afsal> mi3: app is used to do a pirticular job
[10:25] <yo9hnf> ﻿hello ! i whant to install XBMC on XUBUNTU 8.04 (i can't use a newer version because of my VIA C3 compatibility) and i can't because APT deosen't recognise XBMC, even i update APT
[10:25] <ikonia> crizzy: afsal you may want to chat in #ubuntu-in
[10:25] <ikonia> crizzy:  asakura  you'll also meet other ubuntu india users
[10:25] <exco_> amt0101, sorry, no idea then. Here on this machine I just type the first few letters of my winshit program and can then start it in wine
[10:25] <jesseh> klsadjfkll;ksjdf
[10:25] <jesseh> jfl;kasjdfoi
[10:25] <T_H_X> auska: Reveal mode , in the unity plugin
[10:25] <exco_> I need help with debugging boot problems
[10:26] <afsal> ikonia : no this is nice
[10:26] <mi3> yeah afsal, crizzy, type" /J #ubuntu-in" and you will be connected to ubuntu-india channel
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> !ot
[10:26] <ikonia> afsal: sorry, this channel is for ubuntu support - not chat, hence why I'm suggesting using #ubuntu-in
[10:26] <lixman> hi all
[10:27] <lixman> where i have to put new fonts in ubuntu 11.10
[10:27] <afsal> Sorry bot and sorry all
[10:27] <ikonia> asakura: it's not a problem
[10:27] <lixman> to use them with inkscape
[10:27] <mi3> amt0101 which application are you trying to run in wine?
[10:27] <afsal> ikonia: why
[10:27] <amt0101> mi3,  Internet explorer 8
[10:28] <ikonia> asakura: oops, sorry, that was meant for afsal
[10:28] <afsal> mi3:  i'm rgt plz give my result
[10:28] <mi3> Internet explorer 8 and 7 are still buggy at the moment only ie6 will run properly amt0101
[10:29] <amt0101> mi3,  Wow, how nice:)
[10:29] <mi3> app means any application or a program that you run either on windows or linux its that simple afsal
[10:29] <afsal> mi3: thnks
[10:30] <auska> T_H_X, crizzy i set the "Edge Reveal Time" to 1000 and now is not disturbing... it will be working, but not appear...
[10:30] <afsal> ok bye allllllllllllll....................crizzy,mi3,ikonia...and also "bot"
[10:30] <mi3> amt0101, and just a piece of advice dont use internet explorer you will need to do tons of settings use firefox, opera or google chrome these 3 are most popular atleast for ubuntu
[10:30] <mi3> bye afsal
[10:30] <afsal> ok see u nxt time....
[10:31] <mi3> hey amt0101, which version of wine do you use?
[10:32] <mi3> ?
[10:34] <exco> what package do I file bugs in carl9170 against?
[10:34] <amt0101> mi3,  Trust me on this. I have a website that only works on ie. What am I supposed to use?:)
[10:34] <amt0101> mi3,  wine 1,3 branch
[10:34] <joa__> hey i have a problem with 11.10. i do not want to enter the passwd to perform sudo commands for a specific user.
[10:35] <joa__> i did sudo visudo and added "user ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" but it does not work?
[10:35] <mi3> amt0101, use virtualbox on ur system, install your favourite windows os, and get started
[10:35] <alexxio> hello
[10:35] <amt0101> mi3,  haha I forgot about this one. Thanks:)
[10:35] <mi3> no problem amt0101 :)
[10:35] <san> banshee player hangs not working play button please help
[10:36] <alexxio> i upgraded my ubuntu(studio) from previous version to 11.10, but when it was installing all the packages i accidentally rebooted it...now it works only in recovery mode and not in normal mode..what can i do to understand where the problem is?
[10:37] <mi3> amt0101, you use wine 1.3 branch? you use the unstable one right?
[10:37] <amt0101> mi3,  Yes
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> alexxio  better ask in #ubuntustudio
[10:37] <geirha> joa__: user ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL  And it must be *after* the %admin rule, otherwise it gets overridden.
[10:37] <alexxio> k thanks
[10:37] <alexxio> i thought it was the same for you..
[10:38] <mi3> amt0101 can you suggest which windows programs have you currently tested on YOUR system and which worked better?
[10:39] <Oer> mi3 see the wineHQ database
[10:39] <M4dH4TT3r> winetricks and moonlight
[10:39] <mi3> i am asking amt0101 ok
[10:39] <amt0101> mi3,  I haven't tested nothing.
[10:40] <mi3> amt0101: ok
[10:40] <amt0101> mi3,  But unfortunately I need IE for running a website, which is stupid but again I need it.
[10:41] <mi3> website itself might be stupid you can give them a feedback to upgrade their browser support[ u can tell them to upgrade from stoneage that was 10,000 years ago:)]
[10:41] <mi3> hehehehe
[10:47] <johey> I'm making a debian package, having Pre-Depends: openoffice.org (>= 3.2.0) .. However, as 2.4.1 of openoffice.org is installed, my package can be installed without complaining of the version of openoffice.org. How comes it doesn't break?
[10:51] <DansTheMan> Hey guys, is it possible to rename programs? :S
[10:52] <geirha> DansTheMan: What do you mean?
[10:53] <picasso__> Hello evrybdy :)
[10:53] <mi3> Hi, can someone provide me with a link to picasa 3.0 deb file? I guess google was too stupid to remove it from their sites. Thanks in advance
[10:55] <RawProduce> mi3: this? http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/pool/non-free/p/picasa/picasa_3.0-current_i386.deb
[10:55] <mi3> hoho thanks RawProduce
[10:55] <DansTheMan> geirha: Like, in the applications menu of gnome-shell.
[10:56] <RawProduce> you're welcome
[10:57] <geirha> DansTheMan: Hm. You could try installing alacarte. It should allow you to rename application entries.
[10:57] <DansTheMan> geirha: Okay. Thank you :)
[10:59] <Tricks_> hi I'm trying to forward port 80 to another port using ufw. I have opened port 80 and added a few lines to /etc/ufw/before.rules at the top of the file http://pastebin.com/gyvfuWK2 but it doesn't seem to be working... have I missed something?
[11:02] <hsgjkdhs> Alt-tab works, but doesn't display the overlay, and the left panel no longer shows, and super-key doesn't load the dashboard, 11.10 desktop. What command will kill what I need and relaunch, so I can alias it. Thanks
[11:06] <NewWorld> hsgjkdhs:  What are you trying to kill?
[11:07] <NyLes> help me guys, i have a problem with my sound card, i typed dmesg and I noticed this line; ALSA intel8x0.c:2435: codec_ready: codec is not ready [0x300000].. can anyone help me?
[11:07] <hsgjkdhs> NewWorld: Alt-tab works, but doesn't display the overlay, and the left panel no longer shows, and super-key doesn't load the dashboard
[11:07] <ubuntu> hi
[11:09] <ubuntu>  how to resolve the problem when i start the redhat 5 it ask for date and time after putting this info i want to c:/  every time
[11:09] <KM0201> hmm, i'm guessing you got lost on your way to the redhat channel?
[11:10] <ikonia> ubuntu: ask in #rhel channel
[11:10] <ikonia> ubuntu: this channels for ubuntu support only
[11:11] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[11:11] <NyLes> how can i edit again the grub menu?
[11:11] <IceHunter> Hello
[11:11] <scarleo> NyLes, sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[11:11] <Dr_willis> Jello
[11:11] <NyLes> scarleo: thanks..
[11:12] <M4dH4TT3r> tpudding pop
[11:12] <hsgjkdhs> ikonia: his problem had nothing to do with redhat, just because that was what he was doing. Sounds like he is just booting into his hard disk, and it has no date setup / battery dead / old machine
[11:13] <M4dH4TT3r> so change the cmos batt
[11:15] <ikonia> bsmith093: he's asking how to configure Redhat - that #rhel is the palce to ask
[11:16] <IceHunter> I've got some problems... I'm new to Ubuntu. Just installed it on my HP Pavilion dv7. Alongside with windows. I really want to delete Windows, but there are several reasons i can't. First of all, the biggest problem is that i can't control screen brightness. Can somebody try to help me deal with it, please?
[11:17] <l_pottersky> IceHunter: i had the same issue with an ACER... i've found something on ServerFault taht might be useful...
[11:17] <Dr_willis> IceHunter,  you may want to check the forums, and askubuntu.com for that exact make of laptop. There may be some known bugs/work arounds. the odds of someone in here at this time having the exact laptop would be low. ;)
[11:18] <Dr_willis> IceHunter,  does it stay bright all the time? or what excactly?
[11:19] <IceHunter> No, i just cant control screen brightness, neither via operating system, nor with hardware keys (fn + somekey)
[11:19] <alumne> olaaa
[11:19] <alumne> ke pasa lokoo
[11:19] <LjL> !es | alumne
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> !es
[11:20] <alumne> olaa olaaa
[11:21] <IceHunter> it shuts down normally, works perfect, but then i try to change brightness level, it shows that slider, it is moving, but nothing changes
[11:21] <ikonia> IceHunter: there is also the reality that sometimes things like that just don't work/not supoprted
[11:22] <IceHunter> brightness control not supported? dont you think it is strange?
[11:22] <Dr_willis> worth checking out on the forums and askubuntu at least. there might be some trivial fix.
[11:22] <IceHunter> thx
[11:22] <Dr_willis> IceHunter,  not strange at all. the laptop makers like to do their 'own' thing and not follow any standards
[11:23] <ikonia> IceHunter: it's the interface tot he system that controls the brightness control that may not be supported, it's not uncommon
[11:23] <Dr_willis> or they follow 90% of the standard. :)
[11:23] <l_pottersky> IceHunter: theres a 'fix' for ACER laptops, but you could try on yours: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21523/screen-brightness-not-changing-on-acer-5742-notebook
[11:23] <ikonia> IceHunter: I'm not saying it's not supported, just be aware that there are some devices that just don't work
[11:24] <miadbahrami> salam kasi nginx kar karde ?
[11:26] <LjL> miadbahrami: iran? try joining #ubuntu-ir
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> IceHunter  maybe this link is useful http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/makes
[11:26] <miadbahrami> LjL, thanks
[11:27] <chaimae> olaaaa
[11:27] <chaimae> keviiin
[11:27] <chaimae> preg 1
[11:27] <LjL> chaimae: English only Ubuntu support here, please
[11:30] <skdjskdj> How can I relaunch ubuntu UI? keep apps open. The launcher is not running, alt-tab works but doesn't show the overlay, and the dashboard is missing
[11:30] <skdjskdj> super-w and super-s work though
[11:31] <skdjskdj> actually, I think that is what has happened, the dash and launcher have become "in the background" and behind all the other windows
[11:31] <skdjskdj> they are still there if I do super-w
[11:31] <skdjskdj> just behind everything
[11:32] <skdjskdj> ... fffffffffffffffff
[11:32] <playman> can any one tell me why when I try to download "sudo wget http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeghost/files/FOG/fog_0.32/fog_0.32.tar.gz" I get the file as html?
[11:32] <IceHunter> Hello again
[11:33] <jrib> playman: because that's what it is.
[11:33] <ronsonol> Anyone else running 11.10 AMD64 found Gimp severely hosed after recent routine update?
[11:33] <jrib> playman: visit it in your browser, you will see
[11:33] <ziyadb> Hello, how can i remove the thumbnail preview that appears when I'm switching workspaces?
[11:33] <IceHunter> somebody, who gave me link to acer fix - didnt help :-(
[11:33] <ronsonol> Symptoms include wedging halfway through image scaling and selection areas disappearing on choosing another tool.
[11:34] <skdjskdj> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1825605
[11:34] <ziyadb> also, is it possible to enhance the illusion of continuity by configuring the workspace switcher to switch to "roll-over"?
[11:34] <skdjskdj> How can I do that - change the hide launcher options
[11:34] <skdjskdj> ?
[11:34] <playman> jrib: ok, what am I doing wrong? how can I download that program?
[11:35] <jrib> playman: visit the link in your browser, it will then download (or you can click on "direct link" on the web page)
[11:35] <skdjskdj> ziyadb: back in 1999 I used to just have a huge desktop that was oversized from my screen, and would wd/xscript my way around it, and it would scroll on mouse edge too
[11:35] <skdjskdj> ziyadb: then I went the ratpoison way of window confs
[11:36] <skdjskdj> How can I change Ubuntu Launcher Hide Options (to active not dodge all windows, ala http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1825605
[11:37] <Dr_willis> skdjskdj,  compiz tool 'ccsm' has the unity plugin to tweak  some things.
[11:37] <melvincv> I need an SSH client that tries to auto reconnect if my internet connection fails.
[11:37] <skdjskdj> Dr_willis: do you mean apt-get install compizconfig ?
[11:37] <Dr_willis> !ccsm
[11:38] <Dr_willis> you can break some stuff by messing with ccsm. :) so only change the settings you need.
[11:38] <skdjskdj> right, thought so, what I used to use before this was all nicely integrated
[11:38] <skdjskdj> Dr_willis: I used ot use it in 6,7,8 but was mostly on OSX after that thanks
[11:38] <theTroy> hi, is it posisble to set up 2 usb flash drive in RAID 0 configuration in ubuntu?
[11:39] <Dr_willis> skdjskdj,  unity has been tweaked by ccsm as long as its been out i thought.
[11:39] <playman> jrib: I'm trying to download this in another computer, wich does not have GUI (Ubuntu 10.04 LTS) and if I click direct link on the webpage it just starts downloading again.
[11:39] <Dr_willis> or gconf- dconf- settings.
[11:39] <jrib> playman: copy the direct link and wget that
[11:39] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: will it do what I want?
[11:39] <ziyadb> skdjskdj: heh.
[11:39] <Dr_willis> ziyadb,  will what do what?
[11:40] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: well, remove the thumbnail previews and enhance continuity by rolling-over to the opposite workspace.
[11:40] <DansTheMan> Hey guys, how do I install gnome-shell-extensions? :S Using sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions, just fails and requires me to install a nightly version of gnome (3.3.90). What do I do? :S
[11:41] <Dr_willis> what thumbnail previews?  I dont recall seeing them in Unity.
[11:41] <ServerSage> theTroy: Yes it is.
[11:41] <theTroy> ServerSage: any advice where to start?
[11:41] <ServerSage> theTroy: Are you just looking to have two USB drives plugged in all the time and RAID'ed?
[11:41] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: the a workspace contents are popped up in a small window at the center of the screen when switching.
[11:41] <Dr_willis> DansTheMan,  the Webupd8 blog site has a 'tweaking unity' guide 'things to do after installing 11.10 ...' i belive that gives the exact method to get gnome shell going with that.
[11:42] <theTroy> ServerSage: yep, just that, to double the throughput
[11:42] <Dr_willis> ziyadb,  thats most likely some other plugin in ccsm.
[11:42] <playman> jrib: that link is to big to copy manually between computers, "http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/freeghost/FOG/fog_0.32/fog_0.32.tar.gz?r=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Ffreeghost%2Ffiles%2FFOG%2Ffog_0.32%2F&ts=1330083654&use_mirror=switch" no other way of getting a shorter link?
[11:42] <NyLes> can anyone help me about codec is not ready?
[11:42] <DansTheMan> Dr_willis: Okay. Just every site I've looked at thus far says to use what I used above. :-/
[11:42] <ServerSage> theTroy: Are you familiar with setting up software RAID with hard drives?
[11:42] <jrib> playman: why is it too big? copy and paste
[11:42] <theTroy> ServerSage: sadly not
[11:42] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: cool, I'll try install and see if it solves my problem.
[11:43] <mgj> Anyone know of a console torrent client that supports magnet links? I've been using rtorrent, but it does not support magnet (at least not out-of-the-box)
[11:43] <Dr_willis> Ive neer had to install the nightly-build , you could have some extra ppa's enabled or somthing  DansTheMan
[11:44] <ServerSage> theTroy: You'll want to read up on software RAID.  I'd just give you the commands, but I can never remember them off the top of my head.  mdadm is the utility you'll be using.
[11:45] <DansTheMan> Dr_willis: Nup, all that's coming up in the synaptic package manager is the 3.3.90 version :-/
[11:45] <theTroy> ServerSage: thanks, Ill read up on the HW set up then, is it identical to usb set up? and how badly will it react if one of the usb drives happens to get unplugged? (during the time when there is no write operation in process)
[11:45] <playman> jrib: i'm sorry, but maybe I've been not accurade regarding my setup. this computer that I'm using the IRC on is Win XP, the computer I'm trying to intall that program onto is Ubuntu 10.04 wich has no GUI or browsing capability, therefore it's kinda hard for me to just copy and paste.
[11:45] <melvincv> playman, why not http://goo.gl
[11:47] <jrib> playman: 1) ssh to the machine with no gui from your windows machine or 2) grep for the link in the html file you just wgetted or 3) connect to irc on the machine with no gui and send yourself the link that way or 4) use a console browser on the machine with no gui
[11:47] <ServerSage> theTroy: Take a look at http://tinyurl.com/l5ad4y - jump to the mdadm portion.  As for how it will handle a drive being unplugged, it will handle it the same as if a drive dies.  You'll have to use mdadm to bring the drive back into the array when it's plugged back in.
[11:47] <Dr_willis> DansTheMan,  all i recall doing was pasteing some stuff from the webupd8 blog site to get gnome0-shell going months ago when i did a clean install.
[11:47] <theTroy> ServerSage: thanks, Ill try :)
[11:48] <Dr_willis> mgj,  just googing and saw a mention that --> rTorrent 0.8.7 works fine with magnet links in terms of downloading.
[11:48] <DansTheMan> Dr_willis: Could you please link me to the article?
[11:48] <ServerSage> theTroy: mdadm looks intimidating at first, but it's actually pretty simple once you start digging in.
[11:49] <theTroy> ServerSage: hope so :)
[11:49] <mgj> Dr_willis, oh... Google told me you needed to add a patch and recompile from source to enable it. Will look into it, thanks
[11:49] <Dr_willis> DansTheMan,  put in 'webupd8' in your browser and check out their tweak guides
[11:49] <playman> melvincv: thanks for that, I just didint think that would work, but I was wrong and its working. :)
[11:49] <DansTheMan> Dr_willis: I'm look at the site at the moment.
[11:49] <Dr_willis> mgj,  all the patches i saw mentioned were 2+ yrs old.
[11:50] <Dr_willis> mgj,  also seen some mention of some sort of 'script' to convert magnet links to normal torrents.
[11:50] <Dr_willis> Off to work for me. bye all.
[11:50] <ServerSage> theTroy: Actually, I just found this article that is exactly what you hope to do:  http://tinyurl.com/6eoh6h
[11:51] <theTroy> ServerSage: sweet :) I didnt stumble on this article while searching, thanks!
[11:51] <playman> jrib: allright thanks for that, just started ubuntu, i'll keep those informations handy. just didint think of ssh, or that I could IRC on it either lol, well thanks again for the help.
[11:52] <ServerSage> theTroy: Happy to help.  You doing RAID0 or RAID1?  That article sets up a RAID0. The steps are pretty much the same for a RAID1, you just change --level 0 to --level 1
[11:53] <theTroy> ServerSage: RAID 0, doesnt make sense to do RAID 1 with flash drives really, but thanks a lot, this is exactly what I needed :)
[11:53] <Zoffix> Hey. Does google have some kind of spyware in Ubuntu? Weird question, but I just noticed 4kb/s going up, not knowing what it was. I ran `netstat -tunawep` and there were a bunch of `sh` processes apparently connected to 74.125.226.88 and other IP addresses, all owned by Google (according to whois, at least). I killed all those, and I even restarted my network, but I still get a bunch of entries to google with "LAST_ACK" as status. I closed my browser an
[11:53] <Zoffix> d I have no idea where else these could be coming from.
[11:53] <ServerSage> theTroy: You're welcome.  Happy RAID'ing.  ;)
[11:54] <fidel> Zoffix: just a wild guess: i.e. gnome 3s sys-prefs allow you to define a google account
[11:54] <Zoffix> Even putting privacy aside, I really don't want to waste my bandwidth on ... google
[11:54] <jrib> Zoffix: you should look at the whole process name
[11:54] <Zoffix> jrib, how do I do that?
[11:54] <theadmin> Zoffix: htop will tell you I suppose.
[11:55] <xen> hello i have gnome 3 and  unity i want to configure compiz in unity but it crashes gnome 3
[11:55] <jrib> Zoffix: « ps -ef »  will list all commands.  Using lsof or netstat with appropriate switches will give you more fine-grained control...
[11:56] <stl_> ps -ef
[11:56] <Zoffix> fidel, I'm using gnome 2.30.2, and I don't remember seting any google accounts anywhere.
[11:56] <xen> please help me to configure to so it dosent does that
[11:58] <xen> help anyone
[11:58] <IceHunter> Sorry for noob question.. How do i know sda# for mounted device?
[11:58] <jrib> IceHunter: « mount » will show you
[11:58] <jandro> Hi. I'm using php5-cgi to handle php's in my server. I noticed that after a dist-upgrade the metapackage php5 upgraded installing the default libapache2-mod-php5. Shouldn't the installer be able to identify that I'm using php5-cgi and only update the other packages within the metapackage requiring upgrading? cheers
[11:59] <shakjdhf> For my problem which nobody chipped in on - IF ANYONE says "the dock / bar / side / thing / something / isn't working" they need to :
[12:00] <xen> please help
[12:00] <ikonia> xen: with what ?
[12:00] <shakjdhf> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager; ccsm #Type unity into the filter, click the purple Ubuntu Unity Plugin, and third option down "Hide Launcher" change to "Dodge Active Window" then save.
[12:00] <shakjdhf> Then in alt+f2 type unity
[12:01] <ikonia> shakjdhf: who are you talking to - no-one else has this issue, glad your sorted,
[12:01] <shakjdhf> or in terminal: $ unity & disown
[12:01] <shakjdhf> ikonia: stop being that guy
[12:01] <shakjdhf> I think every time I come in here, every three months, you say something unhelpful
[12:01] <ikonia> shakjdhf: stop rambling, your fixed and working, that's grewat
[12:01] <shakjdhf> I am trying to help the next guy who comes in with this problem
[12:01] <ikonia> shakjdhf: there is no next guy
[12:01] <xen> man but it crashes my gnome 3
[12:01] <ikonia> shakjdhf: no-one is taking notes on what to do
[12:01] <shakjdhf> ikonia: you are pedantic, this is a common issue, I've googled it, stop being pedantic and /ignore me if you don't want to help
[12:02] <Guest85052> can you stop it guys?
[12:02] <ikonia> shakjdhf: I've never seen anyone have the issue, but no-one else has the issue in the channel
[12:02] <shakjdhf> ikonia: it is going to be google logged, but someone might learn from it
[12:02] <fidel> shakjdhf: well ikonia is right as long as someone onhere is in actual need for that info
[12:02] <shakjdhf> fidel: you never know ;) thanks
[12:02] <fidel> in case you want to paste everything someone might benefit from - start with wikipedia from A to Z
[12:02] <rajumoh> can we route music played in amarok to ekiga/skype ?
[12:02] <l_pottersky> ikonia: lol... there must be nothing better to do really...  :P
[12:02] <ikonia> shakjdhf: right a wiki page, that's more worth while
[12:02] <fidel> ;)
[12:03] <ANTO> CIAO A TT
[12:03] <ANTO> !LIST
[12:03] <Zoffix> heh
[12:03] <ikonia> xen: are you using unity
[12:03] <l_pottersky> its kinda ironic though... because if it's a common problem, then the solution might be easy to find googling...
[12:04] <ikonia> l_pottersky: a wiki page would be useful, so the information is easy to parse
[12:04] <ikonia> l_pottersky: it will get spidered, others can maintain it, all the info is in one place rather than broken up into multiple lines
[12:04] <ANTO> !LIST
[12:04] <ikonia> ANTO: please stop
[12:05] <bam> Hi everybody!
[12:07] <bam> Can anyone help me? I have a little problem
[12:07] <Zoffix> Well, all the remaining google connections disappeared now; I guess I'd need to do a restart to get those `sh` back; or just wait... Anyway, thanks for the help, I'll try your suggestions the next time I get anything weird going on again. Thanks.
[12:08] <ANTO> !list
[12:08] <Zoffix> bam, no one can help you, unless they know what the question is. Makes sense, no?
[12:08] <bam> yes yes
[12:09] <bam> so I have a server running on ubuntu-server and there is Apache Tomcat running on it
[12:09] <bam> I access the server using ssh and then I run Tomcat
[12:10] <bam> but I have to stay logged in or Tomcat stops
[12:10] <bam> ( sorry for my no really good englis )
[12:11] <Zoffix> bam, use `screen`
[12:11] <Zoffix> bam, to run the tomcat that is.
[12:12] <Zoffix> bam, screen -d -m tomcat (or whatever the name is) would start the server and detach screen. Then to return you'd type screen -r. But my memory is foggy, so read the man page (man screen)
[12:13] <bam> and I can logout of my server and Tomcat will be still running ?
[12:13] <Zoffix> bam, yup
[12:14] <ronsonol_> Is there a log of what update manager has installed when?
[12:14]  * melvincv wonders why tomcat isn't a service/daemon
[12:15] <l_pottersky> was asking myself the same question melvincv
[12:15] <l_pottersky> doesnt it help if you run it like "command &" ?
[12:15] <bam> Zoffix, Thanks a lot! I'll make search on screen
[12:15] <bam> see u
[12:16] <IceHunter> how long it can take to format to ntfs 1tb external hard drive?
[12:16] <Zoffix> l_pottersky, that would put it in background, but the process would still be terminated when you log off the ssh
[12:18] <rajumoh> Zoffix,IceHunter : I think tomcat has a shell script that actually does this in its bin files.. i dont remember the name though..
[12:18]  * Zoffix shrugs
[12:19] <rajumoh> Zoffix,IceHunter : in our world there is more than one way of doing this i guess :-D
[12:19] <Zoffix> :)
[12:20] <ziyadb_> hello. So I installed compiz and made the changes I wanted, however, I had inadvertently disabled Unity, now the launcher bar is gone and it appears that I may be on Gnome 2.x, is there any way to revert the changes I have made? By removing the package perhaps?
[12:21] <IceHunter> rajumoh, Why are you telling me this? My question is very different
[12:22] <rajumoh> IceHunter: type :-p
[12:22] <rajumoh> IceHunter: typo :-p
[12:22] <dr_willis> run ccsm and Renable unity or the Webupd8 site has a guide on reseting unity and compiz
[12:22] <ziyadb_> dr_willis: excellent, thank you!
[12:23] <IceHunter> rajumoh: okay :D
[12:24] <Anomie21> Is there an easy way to get a program to launch on startup and constantly run in the background (it would reopen itself if it was shut for whatever reason)
[12:24] <ziyadb_> dr_willis: and, we're done. Thank you very much.
[12:25] <Tricks_> hi I'm trying to forward port 80 to another port using ufw. I have opened port 80 and added a few lines to /etc/ufw/before.rules at the top of the file http://pastebin.com/gyvfuWK2 but it doesn't seem to be working... have I missed something?
[12:25] <dr_willis> Anomie21: depends on the program to some degree
[12:25] <Anomie21> dr_willis: It's teamviewer, a VNC program
[12:29] <Kre10s> hello. I've got some CAD as well as their DWG versions. Can I convert these to svg? what would I use to do so?
[12:29] <cuco> hi all, i am trying to install wine on 64 bit. After apt-get install
[12:30] <cuco> .. ing it, I see: bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[12:30] <cuco> it seems like the 32bit support is not installed. am i right?
[12:31] <ox3a> hi ikonia
[12:31] <allu2> cuco: try purging wine and reinstalling helped for me
[12:31] <ox3a> Perhaps i will be able to change host ... Just now i need some hint for changing Ubuntu boot logo.
[12:32] <cuco> allu2: did that already
[12:32] <dr_willis> !plymouth
[12:32] <allu2> cuco: sure? with the apt-get purge wine, also check if there is some winebind or like that staying
[12:33] <ox3a> dr_willis, I am customizing LIVE CD
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> tss
[12:33] <ikonia> ox3a: did you want me?
[12:33] <ox3a>  just asking
[12:34] <cuco> allu2: the problem is not configuration, it's a loader problem. but.. yes, I did that (apt-get remove --purge)
[12:35] <ikonia> ox3a: sorry, you just said "hi ikonia" I wondered if you wanted me
[12:35] <muhammedmuhammed> hi
[12:35] <muhammedmuhammed> any body here
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> cuco  maybe you have to delete some hidden file or directory
[12:35] <NyLes> what is the use of the package (i guess) gettext and xmlto?
[12:35] <allu2> cuco: i had same problem while ago, i remember i removed wine and reinstalled but it didn't help, then i removed something like winebind or winbind and it removed wine and its dependencies and then when i installed it worked,
[12:36] <ikonia> NyLes: what do you mean what is the use of them ?
[12:36] <allu2> but ofcourse it can be due to other reasons in my case
[12:36] <NyLes> ikonia: i've been trying this; http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/..
[12:36] <wadkar> how do I know user information like home directory, default shell etc. ? something like 'usermod --list $userName'
[12:37] <ox3a> ikonia, oh yeah i see... First you tried to help me for first problem and now i am back again for next problem .. Boot Logo. That is it
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> NyLes  do they cause any problem?
[12:37] <NyLes> MonkeyDust: nope, just want to know..
[12:37] <ikonia> NyLes: yes, but what do you want to know
[12:37] <NyLes> ikonia: are they really essential for upgrading ALSA?
[12:37] <Antilect> 13:37
[12:37] <ikonia> NyLes: http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/ that is what gettext is, is that the sort of thing are you looking for
[12:37] <ikonia> NyLes: if the package depends on them - yes they are
[12:38] <cuco> allu2: again, not working.
[12:38] <NyLes> ikonia: ahh thanks..
[12:38] <MatisM> Hello everyone, I have a very strange problem with my ubuntu 10.4, regarding my internet connection
[12:38] <MatisM> http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85
[12:38] <MatisM> my connection comes and goes, several times per minute
[12:38] <bronnow> Hi an newbee questtion.. can i have zen coding to gedit and how do i do that?
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> MatisM  wireless?
[12:39] <MatisM> MonkeyDust: not eth
[12:39] <nebkat> anyone here who could tell me about getting ubuntu mobile for an android rom?
[12:39] <BeTaMaX> Hi there :)
[12:39] <ikonia> nebkat: there isn't one
[12:40] <BeTaMaX> Anyone here with java knnowledge could support me with a compilation and some doubts? I'm giving my first steps
[12:40] <nebkat> ikonia: hmm?
[12:40] <nebkat> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[12:40] <ikonia> nebkat: not released yet
[12:40] <nebkat> right
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> !pm
[12:40] <ikonia> nebkat: it should be available from the market place when it's released I believe
[12:41] <nebkat> ikonia: market place?
[12:41] <nebkat> that would be amazing
[12:41] <wadkar> do I have to grep /etc/passwd,group and what not for this ?
[12:41] <ikonia> nebkat: whatever the android "app store" is
[12:41] <ikonia> nebkat: I don't believe any of that is confirmed though
[12:41] <nebkat> would be great for me
[12:41] <MatisM> MonkeyDust: can you read me at pm?
[12:41] <nebkat> all I need a pc for is to connect to ssh
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> !pm| MatisM
[12:43] <NyLes> excuse me, i tried ./configure in alsa-utils and it say configure: error: panelw library not found
[12:43] <ikonia> NyLes: I strongly advise you not to try to do that
[12:43] <MatisM> My question is, My eth connection comes and goes several times in the same minute, as I'm surfing the web, or using git, or whatever, I tried changing the DNS, changing IP to a fixed one set by me in the configuration, and nothing seems to happend, here is more information about my network system http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85 ubottu
[12:43] <ikonia> NyLes: manually compiling alsa and overwriting files on your ubuntu system can lead to real issues
[12:43] <dr_willis> NyLes:  install the needed whatever-dev packages
[12:44] <MatisM> MonkeyDust: I don't know wich command is ok for pm, I doubled click on your name on list of names at the channel
[12:44] <NyLes> ikonia: but the installed alsa causes problems with my sound card :/
[12:44] <ubuntu-guy> How can i change this picture for live cd (Customization) please: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/plymouthtutorial-large_007.jpg
[12:44] <NyLes> dr_willis: ok thanks..
[12:44] <ikonia> NyLes: then work with people to fix it, log bugs, get the packages updated if that's what is needded
[12:44] <mut3city> Got a new laptop that came with W7 and I installed Ubuntu 10.10 along side it.  But now I need to return the laptop… is there any way to uninstall Ubuntu and restore the drive to it's original partition size?
[12:44] <dr_willis> apt-get build-dep package   is handy command.. for that
[12:45] <ikonia> NyLes: compiling software with no understanding of the consiquences / effects on the system may break a lot more than sound
[12:45] <ikonia> mut3city: you'll need to a.) delete the ubuntu partitions b.) resize the windows partiton to the whole disk c.) put the windows boot loader back on
[12:45] <NyLes> ikonia: OMG?
[12:45] <ikonia> mut3city: I wouldn't worry too hard though as the shop will likley re-image it
[12:46] <fidel> mut3city: most likely the wrong place to ask in the first place. regarding resetting: check if there is some kind of recovery procedure described
[12:46] <dr_willis> there used to be some update-alsa scripts
[12:46] <NyLes> ikonia: thanks for the advice i'll stop this now..
[12:46] <MatisM> My eth connection comes and goes several times in the same minute, as I'm surfing the web, or using git, or whatever, I tried changing the DNS, changing IP to a fixed one set by me in the configuration, and nothing seems to happend, here is more information about my network system http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85 ubottu
[12:46] <mut3city> fidel: it came with a recovery partition, just didn't know if that would delete the linux partitions and restore the original
[12:46] <mut3city> ikonia: thanks
[12:47] <NyLes> dr_willis: i think i encountered one.. will it help me?
[12:47] <dr_willis> NyLes:  ive no idea what your issue is.
[12:48] <MatisM> My eth connection comes and goes several times in the same minute, as I'm surfing the web, or using git, or whatever, I tried changing the DNS, changing IP to a fixed one set by me in the configuration, and nothing seems to happend, here is more information about my network system http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85 ubottu
[12:48] <NyLes> dr_willis: aplay -l results with no soundcard founds, lspci does detect my soundcard.. and whenever there is action on desktop i.e moving mouse, it produces buzz sound "zzzzzz"
[12:49] <fidel> mut3city: i returned a laptop to amazon years ago - i didndt even bother removing the os i installed on it and they didnt asked me to clean my mess up ;)
[12:49] <NyLes> dr_willis:  is this the one your talking about? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1681577
[12:49] <mut3city> fidel: cool good to know
[12:50] <MatisM> My eth connection comes and goes several times in the same minute, as I'm surfing the web, or using git, or whatever, I tried changing the DNS, changing IP to a fixed one set by me in the configuration, and nothing seems to happend, here is more information about my network system http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85 ubottu  CAN SOMEONE HELP ME
[12:52] <MatisM> My eth connection comes and goes several times in the same minute, as I'm surfing the web, or using git, or whatever, I tried changing the DNS, changing IP to a fixed one set by me in the configuration, and nothing seems to happend, here is more information about my network system http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85 ubottu  CAN SOMEONE HELP ME
[12:52] <MatisM> My eth connection comes and goes several times in the same minute, as I'm surfing the web, or using git, or whatever, I tried changing the DNS, changing IP to a fixed one set by me in the configuration, and nothing seems to happend, here is more information about my network system http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85 ubottu  CAN SOMEONE HELP ME
[12:52] <FloodBot1> MatisM: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:52] <ikonia> I was just typing a response
[12:52] <RawProduce> MatisM: could be a hardware problem
[12:52] <RawProduce> ah
[12:52] <dr_willis> heh delayed bot
[12:55] <AlanBell> MatisM: firstly don't be irritating, it won't encourage people to help you. Secondly, don't use ping use mtr that will show you where on the path between you and the thing you are pinging the packets are being droppped, might be your router or somewhere in your ISP
[12:55] <AlanBell> so "mtr google.com" and watch it for a while
[12:55] <theadmin> AlanBell: (s)he was kicked
[12:56] <cga> hi all, ubuntu oneiric up to date. alsa installed, audio working (realtek alc262) but I neither can control it with the volume widget nor see it listed in sound (system settings) hardware
[12:57] <ikonia> the fact that there are so many "link ups" in a short period of time suggests the card is struggling to negotiate
[12:57] <cga> any idea? already did the "trick" to add options snd-hda-intel model=ALC262 to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> cga  open a terminal and type alsamixer
[13:00] <cga> MonkeyDust, then what? I want to use the volume in the bar.
[13:00] <cga> it is working in alsamixer bte
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> ah, that's different
[13:00] <cga> btw*
[13:00] <Zerpex> Hi, I'm trying to find all .htaccess files in my /home directory, anyone that knows how to do so?
[13:01] <llutz> find ~ -type f -name '.htaccess' Zerpex
[13:01] <huttan> Zerpex: find ~/ -name .htaccess
[13:02] <ecolitan> hello
[13:02] <ecolitan> how can I stop esolv.conf from being overwritten
[13:02] <ecolitan> resolv.conf
[13:02] <Zerpex> you guys are awesome
[13:02] <lorrien3> If I install ubuntu WITHOUT internet what do I miss? and how do I get it back?
[13:03] <llutz> ecolitan: set your dns in networkmanager or dhclient ot /etc/network/interfaces
[13:03] <kpas_> does libre office support ms docx files
[13:03] <ulimit> yes
[13:04] <ecolitan> seems to ignore dns-nameserver in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[13:04] <llutz> ecolitan: sudo apt-get install resolvconf
[13:04] <ecolitan> just overwrites resolv.conf with its own ideas
[13:04] <lorrien3> help!
[13:04] <lorrien3> someone help!
[13:04] <kpas_> hmmm let move it mt win7 pc and see if word can open it might be a corrupt file
[13:04] <theadmin> lorrien3: You don't "miss" anything, you'll just have to install updates yourself later rather them being installed during the install
[13:05] <llutz> ecolitan: "dns-nameserver" in the /etc/network/interfaces only works if that package is installed
[13:05] <eutheria> i am trying to add a printer, i get this message about firewallD is not running
[13:05] <eutheria> what is firewalld?
[13:05] <ferori> theadmin: but is it installing? I don't install anything automatically after I connect to the internet...
[13:06] <NewWorld> eutheria:  I'm guessing firewall daemon
[13:06] <ferori> theadmin: but what
[13:06] <MatisMasters_> Hi can someone help me to solve a problem with my internet connection?
[13:06] <ferori> I can mantismaster!
[13:06] <eutheria> well seeing as there is no such package as firewalld
[13:06] <ecolitan> well Ive installed resolvconf, will see what happens after next boot. Thanks :)
[13:06] <ferori> What's the prob MantisMaster?
[13:07] <NewWorld> eutheria:  It's a service. It can be part of another package
[13:07] <MatisMasters_> ferori: well my problem is that my connection comes and goes several times per minute
[13:07] <MatisMasters_> ferori: i already tried setting the DNS and IP fixed, I'm behind a router
[13:07] <MatisMasters_> http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85
[13:07] <MatisMasters_> ferori: there is more info
[13:07] <ferori> Are you using a wired or wireless connection MAntis?
[13:07] <MatisMasters_> ferori: wired
[13:07] <ferori> give me info!
[13:08] <ferori> give me info
[13:08] <MatisMasters_> ferori: http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85
[13:08] <eutheria> NewWorld, well it is a service that doesn't exist, no such file in packages.ubuntu.com
[13:08] <MatisMasters_> ferori: on windows everything works great, so its not a router problem
[13:09] <ecolitan> MatisMasters: dodgy/wiggly cable?
[13:09] <ferori> hahaha MantisMAster. Someone help Mantis.
[13:09] <kpas_> where in unity can I match a file type with a application to run when clicking the file I want to open
[13:09] <MatisMasters_> ecolitan: no, its the same cable that I use in windows
[13:10] <ecolitan> i always thought "link up" in messages was L2 ?
[13:10] <ferori> theadmin MantisMaster needs help
[13:10] <MatisMasters_> ferori: lol, MantisMaster xD, its very weird but It happend to me before I fixed it, didn't even know how, but I thought it had something to do with the IPv6, but I deactivated it from the options in the network-applet from gnome, and nothing
[13:11] <ferori> MantisMaster, I dunno a thing about computer! I just installed ubuntu andthe internet works correctly. Hahahaha
[13:12] <huttan> MatisMasters_: are u using dhcp on your router?
[13:12] <ferori> What have you done MantisMAster
[13:12] <RedViper> I recently downloaded a new linux and burnt it on to a Dvd, but when I reboot my computer, it boots into the Dvd but after that it remains black. I have tryed pressing all sorts of keys and still nothing happens, Please can someone help?
[13:12] <ubuntu-guy> How can i change this boot picture for live cd (Customization) please: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/plymouthtutorial-large_007.jpg  ?
[13:12] <ikonia> RedViper: what is the new linux ?
[13:12] <kernix> hi all
[13:12] <ikonia> !plymouth > ubuntu-guy
[13:14] <ferori> it's said it's installing additional files but it's stuck like that for 10 minutes already.
[13:14] <RedViper> ikonia: Linux Mint 12. I have ubuntu 10.10 and Windows 7 installed at the moment. I want to move onto Mint but I cant seem to get into the dvd
[13:14] <ikonia> RedViper: ok, so ask the mint support channels for help
[13:14] <theadmin> RedViper: Mint is unsupported here.
[13:14] <ikonia> !mint | RedViper
[13:15] <ikonia> RedViper: good luck
[13:15] <amjo324_1> good ubuntu book recommendations ?
[13:16] <ferori> I know amjo324_1
[13:16] <ikonia> amjo324_1: tons on amazon for all different topics/levels
[13:16] <RedViper> ikonia: How can I get onto the mint chats using Empathy?
[13:16] <ikonia> RedViper: join the server ubottu gave you and then join the channel
[13:17] <RedViper> ikonia: There is no one in the chat?
[13:17] <ikonia> RedViper: there is,
[13:17] <RedViper> ikonia: ?
[13:18] <ikonia> RedViper: ?
[13:18] <dr_willis> brad! janet!
[13:18] <llutz>  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org NOT on freenode RedViper
[13:18] <RedViper> ikonia: Well no one is here
[13:18] <dr_willis> Ubuntu is more fun anyway
[13:18] <ikonia> RedViper: they are - I'm in the channel, over 400 people
[13:19] <llutz>  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org NOT on freenode RedViper
[13:19] <RedViper> llutz: How do I get onto irc.spotchat.org?
[13:19] <the_p> hi. i'm having troubles with the nvidia driver. i can see in nvidia x-server settings that there are 3 performance levels and altough i'm not using my gpu it is always in the highest one. as i am on a notebook i would like to have it on the lowest if i do not need my gpu to save energy.
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> RedViper  in your browser, surf to irc.spotchat.org and join #linuxmint-help
[13:19] <MatisMasters> Hey, can someone help with a problem in my internet connection in Ubuntu 10.?? please someone, is a very difficult problem
[13:19] <llutz> RedViper: read the manual for your irc-client, /server irc.spotchat.org     then /join #linuxmint-help
[13:19] <ikonia> MatisMasters: you keep asking
[13:20] <ikonia> MatisMasters: 1.) are you using gnome network manager or /etc/interfaces to configure your card ?
[13:20] <RedViper> ikonia: llutz: Thanks
[13:20] <MatisMasters> ikonia: hey, can you help me?
[13:20] <MatisMasters> ikonia: thanks in advance
[13:20] <dr_willis> the_p:  actually unity/compiz is using the 3d features of the gpu
[13:20] <ikonia> MatisMasters: answer my questions and I can help you where to look
[13:21] <MatisMasters> ikonia: gnome-network-manager, from the ubuntu gui applet at the top of the screen
[13:21] <MatisMasters> ikonia: http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85
[13:21] <ikonia> MatisMasters: ok - so you have not configured anything in /etc/interfaces file
[13:21] <MatisMasters> ikonia: not, I've never touched that file
[13:21] <ikonia> MatisMasters: are you using dhcp or static ip  ?
[13:23] <MatisMasters> ikonia: dhcp, but I tried to set up the static IP with DNS and everything and still the same problem
[13:23] <ikonia> MatisMasters: make sure you are using dhcp - do not try to use static IP
[13:23] <ikonia> MatisMasters: is this wired direct into your router or a switch ?
[13:24] <MatisMasters> ikonia: its wired directly into my router, via rj45 cable
[13:24] <RedViper> ikonia: llutz: Sorry to bother you but I am still having problems finding the Mint Chat.
[13:24] <MatisMasters> ikonia: but from windows, as I am right now with my laptop everything works perfectly
[13:24] <ikonia> MatisMasters: so you have windows on the same laptop and it has no issues ?
[13:24] <MatisMasters> ikonia: from both my laptop, and my desktop pc(the one I want to fix)
[13:24] <theTroy> hi! Is there a way to find out if my hardware has mini PCI express V1 or V2?
[13:25] <ikonia> MatisMasters: is your desktop or laptop having the problem
[13:25] <MatisMasters> ikonia: right now to have both powered on, I'm using the IRC chat from my laptop, but in my desktop its an amd, and its the one with problems with the connection, only in ubuntu, my desktop in windows works fine
[13:25] <llutz> RedViper: http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ#How_can_I_connect_to_IRC_in_Empathy_.3F
[13:25] <ikonia> MatisMasters: ok - so your desktop has the problem, when you boot into windows on the desktop does it have any problems ?
[13:26] <RedViper> ikonia: llutz: Is there a way to access the Linux Mint chat Through Empathy???
[13:26] <ikonia> RedViper: READ what llutz just posted
[13:26] <MatisMasters> ikonia: not at all, in my desktop windows works just fine, and the internet connection also works fine
[13:26] <RedViper> 	
[13:26] <RedViper> ikonia: Ya sorry
[13:26] <ikonia> MatisMasters: ok so that removes a lot of the confusion areas
[13:26] <ikonia> MatisMasters: what network card is in this machine ?
[13:27] <dr_willis> RedViper:  any irc client should work. connecct to the server, then join the channel
[13:27] <MatisMasters> ikonia: how can I check it?
[13:27] <ikonia> MatisMasters: please pastebin the output of the command "lspci"
[13:28] <MatisMasters> ikonia: on my way
[13:28] <RedViper> dr_willis: It's not working with Empathy though. I have checked and applyed these details - #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[13:29] <theadmin> RedViper: Click this: irc://irc.spotchat.org/linuxmint-help . Empathy should open it and connect where you want to.
[13:30] <MatisMasters> ikonia: Ethernet controller: Realtek ctor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B Express it Ethernet controller (rev 06)
[13:30] <RedViper> theadmin: Nothing is happening
[13:30] <ikonia> MatisMasters: that should have quite reasonable support
[13:30] <theadmin> RedViper: mk, anyway, Empathy is not really an IRC client... Why not use something sane?
[13:31] <MatisMasters> ikonia: I don't know who exactly to address, do you think its a driver problem?
[13:31] <dr_willis> i agree - use a 'real' irc client
[13:31] <RedViper> theadmin: Suggestions?
[13:31] <theadmin> RedViper: irssi (cli), kvirc, xchat (gui)
[13:31] <dr_willis> weechat. ;)
[13:32] <ikonia> MatisMasters: doubtful, but possible
[13:33] <llutz> MatisMasters: " modinfo r8169|grep version:"
[13:33] <the_p> dr_willis:  i'm on kde and i deactivated the desktop effects
[13:33] <NyLes> lol this card beats the hell out of me..
[13:33] <ikonia> MatisMasters: the fact that there are so many "up" requests in that syslog sugguest to me it's struggling to negotiate
[13:33] <mosno> what is the deal with that annoying little resize triangle on the bottom-right of my windows? i don't seem to recall this on other distros. can it be disabled? am in Gnome Shell
[13:34] <dr_willis> mosno:  resize handel? its a theme thing i belive
[13:35] <MatisM> ikonia: sorry just lost connection
[13:35] <MatisM> ikonia:  http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85
[13:35] <ikonia> MatisM: you've given me that link 3 times !
[13:35] <ikonia> MatisM: stop it
[13:35] <MatisM> ikonia: added latest command result, the last message I read was about that having reasonable support
[13:36] <RedViper> dr_willis: Ok I have installed Xchat, What network do I use?
[13:36] <ikonia> MatisM: please show me the output of "ifconfig eth0"
[13:37] <dr_willis> !mint
[13:37] <RedViper> dr_willis: MintIRC?
[13:37] <ikonia> RedViper: ok - this is getting tedious now
[13:37] <mosno> dr_willis, figured it out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/61280/how-to-remove-the-resize-grip-in-gtk3-windows
[13:37] <ikonia> RedViper: connec to the irc network irc.spotchat.net
[13:37] <dr_willis>  on 'servername'
[13:38] <mosno> dr_willis, it just bugged me in gnome-terminal
[13:38] <Sapphire> Hello everybody , in ubuntu there are many files have a SUID set and can be executed by other user , so why I run a program like this , I still need to enter my sudo password ?
[13:38] <ikonia> RedViper: join the channel #linuxmint-help
[13:38] <ikonia> RedViper: if you are unable to do this, join the channel #xchat and ask for help in configuring it
[13:38] <playman> any one that can help me? I just installed fog on ubuntu 10.04 LTS, now i'm trying to access it's management trough firefox, all I get is "connection timed out" when I try to access the fog management. I cant ping the ubuntu server from the XP machine, but I can ping the XP machine from Ubuntu. any idea?
[13:38] <ikonia> playman: what are you trying to access ?
[13:38] <theadmin> Sapphire: It all depends on what the program does. If it tries to access some data the user normally has no access to, well
[13:38] <MatisM_> ikonia: sorry but I think now, if the ubuntu is connected, could it be that is making have problem connections with my laptop in windows?
[13:39] <ikonia> MatisM_: please show me the output of the command "ifconfig eth0"
[13:39] <playman> ikonia: i'm trying to access this http://localhost/fog/management
[13:39] <ikonia> playman: you won't be able to access "localhost" from a remote host
[13:39] <ikonia> playman: you need to make sure apache is running to access it from the local machine
[13:40] <ikonia> playman: I have no idea how you've installed "fog" so can't comment beyond that
[13:40] <playman> ikonia: I did not use localhost, I used it's local ip address
[13:40] <new2ubuntu> hi guys, can someone help me with ubuntu 11.10, I cant get into graphical mode?
[13:40] <llutz> 127.0.0.1? ;)
[13:40] <ikonia> playman: then when I asked "what you are trying to access" give me the REAL thing you are trying to access
[13:40] <playman> ikonia: this is how I installed fog, pritty simple http://www.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu_10.04
[13:40] <ikonia> playman: don't give me fake info
[13:41] <dr_willis> for a fast quake server join '127.0.0.1'    old joke. ;)
[13:41] <ikonia> dr_willis: made me smile, so thank you
[13:41] <playman> ikonia: sorry about that ikonia, i'll keep that in mind from now on
[13:41] <Sapphire> thx theamin ~
[13:41] <ikonia> playman: I'll ask again "what url are you trying to access"
[13:41] <new2ubuntu> linux expects me to type something it stands on myusername@computerName
[13:42] <new2ubuntu> any idea what should I do?
[13:42] <ikonia> new2ubuntu: what is the question
[13:42] <dr_willis> new2ubuntu:  thats the console/shell
[13:42] <new2ubuntu> i just installed ubuntu
[13:42] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: Does "startx" do anything?
[13:42] <playman> ikonia: http://192.168.1.1/fog/management
[13:42] <MatisM_> l
[13:42] <ikonia> new2ubuntu: ok
[13:42] <new2ubuntu> just a sec, I'll tell you what happens
[13:42] <MatisM_> ikonia: added to the pastie we've been working on
[13:42] <ikonia> playman: ok - so you need to make sure apache is set to listen on the IP address 192.168.1.1 and that port 80 is not firewalled
[13:42] <dr_willis> !info fog
[13:42] <theadmin> ikonia: (s)he fails to run lightdm apparently
[13:42] <ikonia> theadmin: who/what/where ?
[13:42] <new2ubuntu> it says server error?
[13:43] <theadmin> ikonia: new2ubuntu
[13:43] <new2ubuntu> theadmin?
[13:43] <ikonia> MatisM_: don't see the info - please just give me the info I'm asking for
[13:43] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: Uh, huh. Okay, can you try booting with nomodeset?
[13:43] <new2ubuntu> that's what i did
[13:44] <new2ubuntu> and ended up here
[13:44] <new2ubuntu> I mean on this screen
[13:44] <new2ubuntu> I type my username and pass
[13:44] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: Well, I take it the same thing happens without nomodeset too?
[13:44] <new2ubuntu> without nomodeset it's black screen
[13:44] <new2ubuntu> laptop has some issues with graphics
[13:44] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: Hm, okay. What is your GPU (graphics card)?
[13:44] <new2ubuntu> so I activated nomodeset
[13:44] <new2ubuntu> radeon 6830g I think
[13:44] <armandoborntotau> anybody know how to install ubuntu on sony vaio series s?? i can't install with ubuntu 10.04
[13:45] <new2ubuntu> it's hp pavilion g7 laptop
[13:46] <mi3> Hi, I am updating my natty with the latest updates and I would like to know how can I backup those updates .
[13:46] <armandoborntotau> anybody know how to install ubuntu on sony vaio series s?? i can't install with ubuntu 10.04
[13:46] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: Hm... Radeon or Radeon HD? I dunno if the old Radeon are even supported anymore
[13:47] <new2ubuntu> just aa sec
[13:47] <theadmin> (I'm not too into graphic cards or hardware in general though)
[13:47] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: lspci | grep VGA
[13:47] <MatisM_> l
[13:47] <AdvoWork> is this quite high as load averages? 3.46, 3.46, 3.60
[13:47] <new2ubuntu> it's hd
[13:48] <theadmin> !find fglrx
[13:48] <muelli> AdvoWork: well. Yes. But it depends, really. The number is the number of processes willing to run.
[13:49] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: Just grab fglrx and it should work... I hope
[13:49] <mi3> I am updating my natty with the latest updates and I would like to know how can I backup those updates manually and then again reinstall those updates on an offline pc without any software
[13:49] <new2ubuntu> how to grab? :D
[13:49] <new2ubuntu> type it?
[13:49] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[13:49] <new2ubuntu> ok, thanks I'll try that
[13:49] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: That is given you have a network connection
[13:50] <i2c> c
[13:50] <i2c> hey guys whenever I try to open up ubuntu software center it takes forever, then automatically turns grey and I have to force quit. Any thoughts? I"ve already tried sudo-apt --reinstall install software-center
[13:51] <mi3> any suggest me?
[13:51] <muelli> well i2c. It might just be busy.
[13:51] <muelli> mi3: I don't really get what you want to achieve.
[13:51] <mi3> can anyone suggest me?
[13:51] <AdvoWork> muelli, what can i do to work out why its so high?
[13:51] <theadmin> i2c: software-center is pretty heavy, have you considered trying Synaptic?
[13:51] <mi3> i2c try updating to a new version
[13:52] <MatisM_> ikonia: there, in the same pastebin, at the bottom of everything, sorry its difficult to use the connection right now from ubuntu, im moving the command results through text files in a pendrive now
[13:52] <muelli> AdvoWork: you can check with tools like "htop" what processes are running and in which state they are. Then you get an idea of what processes cause the load.
[13:52] <escott> mi3, you can grab the debs from /var/cache/apt/archives/
[13:53] <mi3> muelli, I am updating my system and its receiving those updates [those deb files] I want to backup those and save them, then I want to install them on an offline pc that has never connected to the internet
[13:53] <ikonia> MatisM_: sorry, not interested any more, I'm asking for information and not getting it.
[13:53] <roasted_> Question - this is such a minor thing, but I'm just THAT curious. Why is it when I format a drive in disk utility, I have 2 mb unallocated, while in gparted it leaves 0 mb allocated? What's stranger yet is if I format it with gparted (leaving 0 mb unallocated) and try to add it to my software raid array, it times out and fails, whereas if I format it with disk utility (leaving 2 mb unallocated) it works just fine. Very minor, but I
[13:53] <MatisM_> ikonia: second chance please! I really need help with this
[13:53] <muelli> yeah mi3. I think you need to backup /var/cache/apt. But I'm not entirely sure whether that's everything.
[13:53] <ikonia> roasted_: it's just rounding
[13:54] <roasted_> ikonia: don't you think it's strange 1 works as raid and th eother does not, though?
[13:54] <ikonia> roasted_: it shouldn't make a difference, and in all the years I've used raid I've never had an issue due to rounding
[13:54] <mi3> escott there are a lot of deb files, how do I backup them?
[13:54] <playman> ikonia: sorry for the long respond, I checked the httpd.conf file and it's empty, I should se there if my apache is listening. right?
[13:54] <ikonia> roasted_: I suspect there a different problem that you are assoticating with this
[13:54] <mi3> muelli i want to backup my updates dude
[13:54] <muelli> roasted_: I don't know but I can imaging metadata taking up some space. And well, if there's no space left, it might not be able to write the metadata
[13:54] <muelli> mi3: yes.
[13:54] <MatisM_> ikonia:  http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f4796aa0e81f
[13:55] <roasted_> ikonia: have you ever set up software raid after ubuntu is already installed?
[13:55] <escott> roasted_, two possibilities (a) alighnment and (b) something gpt related. i think gpt leaves a bit at the front of the disk unused so as not to trample on mbr tables
[13:55] <roasted_> muelli: that was kind of my thought process too.
[13:55] <ikonia> playman visit https://help.ubuntu.com - look in the server section there is a guide on how to setup apache
[13:55] <roasted_> escott: I'm not using gpt.
[13:55] <ikonia> roasted_: many many times
[13:55] <roasted_> ikonia: when you prep the drives, do you use gparted, disk utility, or terminal?
[13:55] <ikonia> roasted_: personally fdisk
[13:55] <escott> mi3, how were you planning to get files to the offline machine?
[13:56] <ikonia> roasted_: no reason other than personal preferences
[13:56] <mi3> muelli how to backup them? also i would like to install them on an offline pc so tell me how to do so
[13:56] <LukeNukem> ikonia, yo
[13:56] <LukeNukem> remember me?
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> ikonia  is popular today
[13:56] <ikonia> LukeNukem: as we only spoke yesterday, yes
[13:56] <roasted_> ikonia: I hear ya. hey by chance do you have a preference between mbr and gpt?
[13:56] <MatisM_> MonkeyDust: can you help me with my weird internet connection problem?
[13:57] <LukeNukem> MatisM_, what is it
[13:57] <mi3> escott ,by a flash drive, u know , with those updates copied to a flash drive and then moved to the offline pc
[13:57] <ikonia> roasted_: mbr is nothing to do with gpt, if you mean dos partitions and gpt, unless I have a technical reason (2TB or greater or EFI ) or until dos becomes more retired I'll keep it simple with dos tables
[13:57] <bisceglia> ciao list
[13:57] <udonthavetoknow_> hello there, can somebody help me? i'm trying to format and partition a microsd card with gparted, but always when i'm trying to make a ext4 partition my /dev/sdb gets unmounted. after mounting it again, it says that gparted cannot detect the new partition
[13:57] <roasted_> ikonia: I know they have nothing to do each other, and yes I meant the disk size/EFI. Speaking of which, if my board is "UEFI enabled" is that referencing EFI that GPT needs?
[13:58] <bisceglia> ciao list
[13:58] <muelli> mi3: *shrug* copy them on a pen drive and move them over to the other machine.
[13:58] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell bisceglia about list
[13:58] <MatisM_> LukeNukem: The connection from my desktop pc with ubuntu 10.4 is reconnecting over and over again, like several times per minutes, as I surf the web, or do anything on internet, in the same pc in windows, the connection is working perfectly
[13:58] <MatisM_> LukeNukem: http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85
[13:58] <escott> mi3, if the machines are identical and the flash drive is large enough you could rsync -delete from the /var/cache/apt/archives/ on a regular basis. that would be the easiest way to get updates over
[13:58] <MatisM_> LukeNukem: there is lots of information
[13:58] <ikonia> roasted_: if you know they are nothing to do with each other, why did you ask if I prefered MBR or GPT knowing they where nothing to do with each other
[13:58] <mi3> escott?
[13:58] <bisceglia> ciao list
[13:58] <escott> mi3, although you would also need to copy the updated apt dependency lists
[13:58] <LukeNukem> MatisM_, gee sorry, dunno man
[13:58] <LukeNukem> good luck
[13:58] <roasted_> ikonia: I looked at MBR vs GPT as ext3 vs ext4.
[13:58] <bisceglia> bisceglia
[13:58] <HoNgOuRu> my volume icon near the time has gone, Im using gnome 3.
[13:58] <ikonia> roasted_: UEFI enabled doesn't mean you have to use it
[13:59] <bastidrazor> !list | bisceglia
[13:59] <HoNgOuRu> what do I have to install ?=
[13:59] <ikonia> roasted_: MBR is "master boot record" - it's nothing to do with the partition table
[13:59] <ikonia> roasted_: the partition tables are GPT and DOS based
[13:59] <roasted_> ikonia: oh. I guess I got confused with disk utility then, because it asked me which kind of partition structure I wanted when I went to format the volume.
[13:59] <srini> Is there any channel available for tweaking terminal?
[13:59] <escott> roasted_, if gpt does not require efi. you can have gpt on bios systems. but if you have uefi enabled you are supposed to use gpt to boot
[13:59] <v01d`> how do i set up iptables in ubuntu ?
[14:00] <v01d`> and arp tables
[14:00] <ikonia> roasted_: it's easy to make the mistakes, I'[m only being picky to make sure I'm answering the question you are "really" asking
[14:00] <HoNgOuRu> is there any way of recovering the volume indicator in gnome 3 ?
[14:00] <udonthavetoknow_> hello there, can somebody help me? i'm trying to format and partition a microsd card with gparted, but always when i'm trying to make an ext4 partition my /dev/sdb gets unmounted. after mounting it again, it says that gparted cannot detect the new partition
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> !pm| MatisM_
[14:00] <i2c> mi3 how do I update to a newer version? and software center worked for the longest time...
[14:00] <roasted_> escott: I didn't specifically set up gpt on my boot drive. I know my board said UEFI enabled but that was as far as I got with it.
[14:00] <chown_> guys i have a network hd that has a interface, at my mac i do a smb://ip and it mount up my hd, how do i do something like that at ubuntu?
[14:00] <v01d`> how do i set up iptables in ubuntu ?
[14:00] <mi3> escott tell me all the steps i am a newbie dude never tried that before, 1st how to backup them? i know the folder and i copied them, nut there is a lock icon on those deb files
[14:00] <muelli> v01d`: check ufw
[14:01] <fidel> chown_: you mount if via cli or via your file-browser
[14:01] <muelli> !ufw | v01d`
[14:01] <roasted_> ikonia: well if you have a second, pop into disk utility sometime, pop in a flash drive you can sacrifice (only because I would never recommend touching the next step on a live drive, even if you would utilize the cancel button) then hit "format volume". I saw MBR, GUID, and several other things there. I just associated them as being similar to ext2 vs 3 vs 4, etc
[14:01] <mi3> i2c u can update the software center from the update manager, just reload the lists and install from that ok
[14:01] <HoNgOuRu> is there any way of recovering the volume indicator in gnome 3 ?
[14:01] <MatisM_> ubottu: can you help me? The connection from my desktop pc with ubuntu 10.4 is reconnecting over and over again, like several times per minutes, as I surf the web, or do anything on internet, in the same pc in windows, the connection is working perfectly
[14:02] <RedViper> Please can someone help me With Linux Mint in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[14:02] <ikonia> roasted_: nah, totally different things
[14:02] <udonthavetoknow_> hello there, can somebody help me? i'm trying to format and partition a microsd card with gparted, but always when i'm trying to make an ext4 partition my /dev/sdb gets unmounted. after mounting it again, it says that gparted cannot detect the new partition
[14:02] <i2c> mi3: I believe it's already updated. I hit check for updates and I get nothing. (I update daily, I'm kinda anal about that)
[14:02] <roasted_> ikonia: mbr was default so I just left it alone.
[14:02] <ikonia> roasted_: nothing wrong with that, simple
[14:02] <mi3> hehehehe
[14:03] <v01d`> and also on arp tables
[14:03] <chown_> fidel: how do i do that?
[14:03] <mi3> then still it gets hanged i2c?
[14:03] <i2c> yes sir
[14:03] <fidel> chown_: depends on what you use
[14:03] <i2c> when I open up software-center via command line, it throws a bunch of python errors at me
[14:03] <MatisM_> The connection from my desktop pc with ubuntu 10.4 is reconnecting over and over again, like several times per minutes, as I surf the web, or do anything on internet, in the same pc in windows, the connection is working perfectly ANYONE to help me please? thanks in advance
[14:03] <mi3> try uninstalling then re installing it
[14:03] <fidel> chown_: cli-wise its using the mount cmd
[14:03] <chown_> fidel: on my mac i do: smb://ip/partition
[14:03] <roasted_> ikonia: I had originally formatted my one drive with GUID, and I noticed when I went to edit the file system type, things were wildly different. Instead of linux raid autodetect (0xfd) it now simply said linux raid. The options were simpler, etc. It wasn't until I went to my other drive, stll live in the raid, that I saw it was mbr. so I reformatted the target drive (drive b) as mbr, then 0xfd was available and I set the type as su
[14:03] <escott> mi3, i've never done this so I can't give you all the steps. all i can say is that apt needs a list of the files to install and their checksums and then will look into /var/cache/apt/ to see if the files were already downloaded. so what you need to get over to the other machine is the *.deb files and the updated package archive list. and you would put those in /apt. alternately if you can get a bigger disk to do the transfer you could tr
[14:03] <escott> y and use apt-mirror
[14:03] <fidel> chown_: you arent listening ;)
[14:03] <mi3> ohh
[14:04] <ikonia> roasted_: GUID is very different
[14:04] <mi3> give me the paste of that will u....
[14:04] <udonthavetoknow_> hello there, can somebody help me? i'm trying to format and partition a microsd card with gparted, but always when i'm trying to make an ext4 partition my /dev/sdb gets unmounted. after mounting it again, it says that gparted cannot detect the new partition
[14:04] <roasted_> ikonia: oh, when I googled it people were associating htem as the same.
[14:04] <mi3> err escott?
[14:04] <roasted_> ikonia: are there any advantages to guid over mbr?
[14:05] <escott> udonthavetoknow_, double check that it doesnt have a write protect switch on the card
[14:05] <mi3> ok is there a GUI to create a backup? escott?
[14:05] <MatisM_> The connection from my desktop pc with ubuntu 10.4 is reconnecting over and over again, like several times per minutes, as I surf the web, or do anything on internet, in the same pc in windows, the connection is working perfectly ANYONE to help me please? thanks in advance http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85
[14:05] <ikonia> roasted_: bigger disk size support really, that's about it
[14:05] <haylo> Roasted, guid is group user id i think
[14:05] <escott> mi3, not that i am aware of
[14:06] <roasted_> haylo: you're right, but we're talking about a different type of guid in regard to partition table schemes. :)
[14:06] <roasted_> ikonia: gotcha. thanks bro.
[14:06] <escott> roasted_, ikonia more partitions, larger partitions, and the entry tables are bigger so more can be stored in the entry table, and there is a backup table at the end of the disk
[14:06] <mi3> ok then if u had to install updates to an offline pc suggest me what would u do?
[14:06] <i2c> WOW. I just tried doing sudo-software center, and it worked perfectly.
[14:06] <ikonia> escott: ahhh yes, more partitions is another good point
[14:06] <mi3> ok then if u had to install updates to an offline pc suggest me what would u do?escott
[14:06] <roasted_> escott: would it be more logical for me to use that type of setup on a raided /home volume?
[14:07] <escott> mi3, its a lot of sneaker work to shuffle files back and forth. is there a way to make this an online machine?
[14:07] <mi3> hehehehe
[14:07] <ikonia> roasted_: I don't think you'd see a benifit as the raid info is held in the private regions of the disk
[14:07] <kprice> udonthavetoknow - have you tried mkfs from a shell?
[14:07] <justsighdudes> Is there a good tutorial on how to set up a secure server? I feel like settings up a chroot for each daemon is a good idea but I have no idea how this stuff works.
[14:08] <ikonia> justsighdudes: it's not a good idea,
[14:08] <escott> roasted_, one argument for gpt would be that a raid array might live longer than any single disk in the array and your next disk is likely to be too big for mbr. so if you start with gpt today you can be a consistent gpt all the way through
[14:08] <ikonia> justsighdudes: not all applications can function in a chroot enviornment, some have that configuration built in, others you'd have to build a whole machine chroot just to run a daemon.
[14:08] <roasted_> escott: gpt? or guid?
[14:08] <Guest57423> who is chinese ?
[14:08] <mi3> i am just taking an example escott incase i am left totally without an internet connection and pc that has not been updated for months, know what i am saying :)
[14:08] <bastidrazor> Guest57423: most people in #ubuntu-cn
[14:09] <mi3> hehehehe
[14:09] <NyLes> ok i think I'm missing something.. please analyze this for me im begging you guys.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/855389
[14:09] <mi3> nice answer bastidrazor
[14:10] <mi3> hahahahahahaha
[14:10] <roasted_> ikonia: I'm reading GPT and GUID are the same thing...
[14:10] <Guest57423> why your speak chinese??
[14:10] <mi3> :) "most people in ubuntu-cn hahahahahahahaha
[14:11] <haylo> i wish i could speak chinese
[14:11] <zacktu> thunderbird has just upgraded to 10.0.2, and wouldn't install lightning -- now google calendar doesn't work -- recent updates have worked transparently?  - any word on where this is going?
[14:11] <Guest57423> 怎么没人打中文？？
[14:11] <escott> roasted_, gpt uses guids (in mbr your guid is put not in the partition table but in the pbr AFAIK)
[14:11] <roasted_> escott: I'm reading GPT is just an appreviation for GUID Partition Table...
[14:11] <roasted_> MBR - Master Boot REcord etc
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> Guest57423  please type /join #ubuntu-cn
[14:12] <Guest57423> thanks
[14:12] <escott> mi3, its hard to work with hypotheticals. hypothetically if the US and russia launch their nukes canonical won't be producing many updates so i wouldn't worry
[14:12] <mi3> escott: hehehehehehe
[14:12] <playman> ikonia: sorry about this, but both /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and /etc/dhcpd.conf are blank, I used to have fully working dhcpd server before the install of the fog program, is that normal?
[14:13] <escott> roasted_, there are technical limitations (disk size) that are forcing the move to GPT, but GPT includes many of the best practices (like partition guids that you see with sudo blkid) into the partition table
[14:13] <mi3> escott: hey atleast in modern warfare 3 they did[hypothetically]
[14:13] <bluefrog> playman, /etc/dhcp3-server.dhcpd.conf
[14:13] <mi3> hehe
[14:13] <dr_willis> Nukebuntu
[14:13] <bluefrog> playman, /etc/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.conf
[14:13] <roasted_> escott: while I'm already tinkering with my partitions I  might as well move them over just for tinkering.
[14:14] <bluefrog> playman forget it, am reading what I want... not what is written..
[14:14] <Guest57423> where are you from??
[14:14] <bluefrog> playman, why are you mixing apache conf and dhcp conf?
[14:14] <escott> roasted_, the reasons for using gpt on a new disk are decent. the reasons for switching to gpt on a prexisting disk are less compelling. also be very careful to remove the mbr partition if you switch. or create a protective mbr partition
[14:15] <escott> roasted_, this will tell you everything you need to know and more http://www.rodsbooks.com/
[14:15] <bluefrog> playman, /etc/apache2.apache2.conf
[14:15] <Trevor69420> ok i have been trying to convert COMPLETELY to ubuntu to get rid of windows... but i have a music problem... i have imported all my music from iTunes into my ubuntu system... however i have one tiny issue... my itunes purchased songs
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> !pm > Guest57423
[14:16] <Trevor69420> has anyone figured a roundabout way to get my iTunes purchases to work in Ubuntu
[14:16] <escott> Trevor69420, you probably need to remove the drm from the m4a files
[14:17] <roasted_> escott: these are just data disks. I guess I could do it one of two ways. It's a raid. I could either remove drive A, format to GUID, sync up to drive B (still mbr) then remove drive B, format to GUID, sync to drive A. This is assuming I can do that, but in software raid I don't think it would matter.
[14:17] <ikonia> playman: dhcpd.conf is nothing do to with apache
[14:17] <playman> bluefrog: /etc/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.conf is also blank. what do you mean about mixing? well I have the file/etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[14:17] <ikonia> playman: and as I've told you https://help.ubunu.com look in the server info for how to setup apache
[14:17] <Trevor69420> escott yea thats what i figured... not sure if theres a tool for that that might run on ubuntu
[14:17] <bluefrog> playman, what are you trying to? configure a web server AND configure a dhcp server?
[14:18] <escott> roasted_, you can have both gpt and mbr on the same disk (so long as they are consistent) so you might want to try switching with gdisk by just changing the partitiont ables (gdisk can create hybrids)
[14:18] <alisunjaya> hello
[14:18] <ikonia> playman: your problem is you need apache to listen on the right ip address - those two files are nothing to do with that
[14:18] <playman> ikonia: I know but I just wanted to check dhcpd.conf and found it strange that the file was empty
[14:18] <alisunjaya> playman
[14:18] <alisunjaya> \??>
[14:18] <roasted_> escott: eh, I'd rather just push it all to gpt if mbr offers me nothing but scaling limitations for the future.
[14:18] <ikonia> playman: fix the problem in hand - which is apache is not listening on the right IP
[14:18] <alisunjaya> ikonia?
[14:18] <roasted_> escott: as long as software raid can sync an mbr disk to gpt, then I can do 1 drive at a time like that without issue.
[14:18] <escott> Trevor69420, i dont believe those tools work on linux. they need the encryption keys that are associated to your itunes accounts
[14:18] <playman> bluefrog: i'm trying to setup fog server
[14:19] <escott> roasted_, i would say that if you have a working system not to mess with it. there really isn't much to gain
[14:19] <roasted_> escott: it's a system I'm rebuilding, so if I'm going to do it, now is the time.
[14:19] <roasted_> escott: otherwise I probably wouldn't care much at all.
[14:19] <playman> ikonia: yeah i'm sorry i'm trying to read trough the https://help.ubuntu.com
[14:20] <roasted_> escott: then again, even if I move to a larger array, I'll have to set up a new array to begin with. It's not like I can easily port this array over.
[14:20] <roasted_> escott: perhaps it's a moot point?
[14:20] <alisunjaya> hello????????????????????????????????
[14:20] <roasted_> escott: especially if there's no higher data reliability or speed increase...
[14:21] <jonny> I'm newbie and I need a little help with gnome classic
[14:21] <escott> roasted_, it depends on how your array is configured. if you have lvm on top of mdadm you can just add new lvm sectors to a new array
[14:21] <roasted_> escott: no lvm is involved
[14:21] <roasted_> escott: just a basic mdadm mirror
[14:24] <mi3> escott thanks for the advices!!
[14:26] <Valkyr> Hi. I'm new to Freenode IRC so if there's any introductory protocol I'm missing, please let me know. I'm having a problem with my Kubuntu Lucid and am hoping that someone might be able to give me some advice?
[14:27] <kalimojo> is it possible for someone to send a malicious link to firefox and hijackt it under ubuntu ?
[14:27] <escott> Valkyr, the main part of the protocol you missed is where you ask your question.
[14:27] <Valkyr> Thanks. Here it is.
[14:27] <Valkyr> The problem is with my screen/monitor in KDE. I was trying to adjust the “brightness” setting to something lower using the slider, but when I hit “apply” the monitor seemed to just shut off. I can tell I'm still logged in because my computer is set to logout in 30 seconds if I hit the “power” button once. It logs me out and I can see the startup/login screen just fine. I can also see everything if I log into Gnome Desktop, 
[14:27] <superstraw> Valkyr: you have to buy us a beer first
[14:28] <tomaso_> ciao a tt
[14:28] <Valkyr> *monitor goes off and I can hear the login sound but still can't see anything.
[14:28] <tomaso_> !list
[14:28] <kalimojo> i clicked on an image here earlier on - mudkip - that orbii posted ever since its been opening strange pages from my cache
[14:28] <escott> Valkyr, sounds like the backlight is turning off instead of lowering in brightness. can you get a bright lamp and shine it on the display to confirm
[14:29] <Valkyr> I'll dig up my flashlight and give that a try.
[14:30] <Valkyr> I can't actually see anything shining a bright light on it.
[14:31] <playman> ikonia: just a thought, does it matter if the ubuntu is 192.168.1.1 and the XP is 192.168.111.198? the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 on both machines
[14:31] <escott> playman, yes
[14:32] <pesari> hello, I get two addresses for archive.canonical.com: 91.189.88.33 and 91.189.92.191 -- the latter one seems to have outdated repository contents, at least for the file /ubuntu/dists/lucid/partner/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2
[14:32] <dr_willis> that would be 2 different subnets i think. ;)
[14:32] <M4dH4TT3r> yes playman theyre on different networks
[14:33] <Valkyr> If it were the backlight shutting off, is there a combination of buttons I would press or something to turn it back on?
[14:33] <playman> ok I know they are on different networks, I thought that they could still comunicate if told so
[14:33] <escott> Valkyr, well assuming that the monitor isn't being turned off by dpms, but rather that the backlight is being turned off. then the issue would with your acpi tables. you would have to do some searches for your specific hardware to identify if there is a workaround/update to the kernel acpi tables
[14:34] <M4dH4TT3r> if you change 111 to 1 they will be all good
[14:34] <escott> playman, depends on what lies between the subnets, but local services are usually configured to ignore traffic from outside subnets
[14:35] <Valkyr> Okay. I will do some research on that. What if it's being turned off by dpms?
[14:35] <playman> M4dH4TT3r: ok i'll change that, and check it again.
[14:35] <playman> escott ok thanks for that
[14:35] <alisunjaya_> HELLO?
[14:35] <alisunjaya_> hhsahaaahahah
[14:35] <bastidrazor> alisunjaya_: yeah, you're heard.
[14:36] <alisunjaya_> playman
[14:36] <alisunjaya_> ?
[14:36] <escott> Valkyr, i think thats unlikely. but if it were there are cli utils for X to change the dpms settings
[14:36] <dr_willis> alisunjaya_:  you have a support question?
[14:36] <alisunjaya_> bastidrazor? in ubuntu chat?
[14:36] <alisunjaya_> i user ubuntu 11.04
[14:36] <playman> alisunjaya_ yes?
[14:36] <alisunjaya_> hhehe
[14:36] <bluefrog> playman, I assume a route is in place for both subnets to communicate?
[14:36] <alisunjaya_> playman
[14:36] <alisunjaya_> where do you live?
[14:37] <dr_willis> alisunjaya_:  you have an actual ubuntu  support question?
[14:37] <bastidrazor> alisunjaya_: this channel is not for chat but for support. #ubuntu-offtopic may be where you want to go.
[14:37] <playman> alisunjaya_: why do you ask about that?
[14:37] <alisunjaya_> what?
[14:37] <alisunjaya_> support?
[14:38] <fidel> alisunjaya_: this is a support only channel
[14:38] <playman> bluefrog: could you please rephrase that question?
[14:38] <mady> any chatrooms on this server?
[14:38] <fidel> so NOT for non-topic related chat
[14:38] <bastidrazor> mady: #defocus
[14:38] <dr_willis> !ot
[14:38] <mady> oh ty
[14:38] <bluefrog> playman, forget apache. from one machine, can you ping the other and vice versa?
[14:38] <alisunjaya_> fidel?
[14:38] <alisunjaya_> ok
[14:38] <bluefrog> playman, can they talk together?
[14:38] <Valkyr> escott Okay. So I'll look around on the net for something about the ACPI tables and come back if I have more trouble.
[14:38] <alisunjaya_> can you tell me supoort
[14:39] <mady> so this room is just for IT geeks?
[14:39] <alisunjaya_> rhis
[14:39] <playman> bluefrog: I can ping from ubuntu to xp, but not from xp to ubuntu
[14:39] <NyLes> !ppa
[14:39] <Myrtti> !id | alisunjaya_
[14:40] <dr_willis> mady:  for ubuntu support
[14:40] <mady> in south africa ubuntu means - to help each other :)
[14:40] <alisunjaya_> ubottu?
[14:40] <alisunjaya_> can you speak indonesia
[14:40] <mady> i can speak afrikaans and english
[14:40] <mady> and a bit of hebrew
[14:40] <dr_willis> !bot
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> alisunjaya_  ubottu is a (ro)bot
[14:40] <mady> shabat shalom!
[14:41] <alisunjaya_> mady?
[14:41] <alisunjaya_> spaek indonsia?
[14:41] <alisunjaya_> mady_
[14:41] <LjL> speak move to #ubuntu-offtopic about which languages you speak :P
[14:41] <mady>  i cant speak indonsia
[14:41] <LjL> this channel is for Ubuntu support in English
[14:42] <bluefrog> playman, make it easy for you to begin with. put both machines on the same subnet. install your soft and make sure it works. then you will play with different subnets.
[14:42] <mady> lol ok LjL wanna join me :P
[14:43] <alisunjaya_> mady where do you live?
[14:43] <mady> south africa
[14:43] <mady> mossel bay to be precise
[14:43] <fidel> alisunjaya_: dude read what we tell you
[14:43] <mady> you can google it
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> !ot| mady alisunjaya_
[14:43] <mady> oops sorry
[14:44] <alisunjaya_> ubuntu realase 12.04 bulan 4
[14:44] <wormmd> So here's a weird one: my machine was bogging down horribly yesterday, so I restarted, and when it booted back up, it seemed as though all of my configurations had been wiped, e.g., hotkeys and such, and a panel showed up behind the GNOME Shell application bar at the top. I'm on Ubuntu 11.10 running GNOME Shell.
[14:44] <playman> bluefrog: yea was starting to look into that, wanted to change the dhcpd.conf but it's blank, and it's there where I can make the ubuntu machine part of the same network. right?
[14:45] <bluefrog> playman, not at all. I believe you may have some things to learn before setting up any kind of servers...
[14:45] <dr_willis> alisunjaya_: is there some reason you are using the alpha version?
[14:46] <justsighdudes> ikonia: Sorry, could you repeat what you said re: chrooting daemons? irssi is not playing nice.
[14:47] <Valkyr> Question - If I can't see anything at all of the screen, how would I apply any changes to the APCI?
[14:47] <Valkyr> ACPI*
[14:47] <playman> bluefrog: well i'm trying to learn :) i'm just new to the whole server thing. all i'm trying to do now is to setup a fog server to take care of image installing on PC's I have to format. wanted to be able to store the install image on a server and use the ethernet to setup the pc's
[14:47] <justsighdudes> ikonia: Nevermind. Just discovered /LASTLOG
[14:48] <escott> Valkyr, it could be that the flashlight is just not bright enough, but that the LCD is still active and updating, but the particular configuration of the display means you absolutely cannot read anything without the backlight
[14:48] <a11> hi
[14:48] <bluefrog> playman, have a look at clonezilla. might be easier for you to understand / put in place
[14:49] <playman> bluefrog: you gotta start somewhere right?
[14:49] <escott> Valkyr, the fact that this happens when you try and change the backlight is obviously suggestive of a backlight related issue, and the backlight is controlled through ACPI and there be the dragons there
[14:50] <alisunjaya_> DR WILLS? alpha i uer realase ubuntu 11.04 no alpha?
[14:50] <alisunjaya_> but 12.04 alpha?
[14:50] <playman> bluefrog: wery well, i've gotten used to ppl giving up on me any way. i'll check that clonezilla
[14:50] <alisunjaya_> hahahahahah
[14:50] <alisunjaya_> lol
[14:50] <kalimojo> is it possible for someone to send a malicious link to firefox and hijackt it under ubuntu ?
[14:50] <Valkyr> @escott - Okay. I will find a brighter light and shut off the lights around the computer. If I can see it then, then should I assume that something like resetting things to their default configs would bring it back?
[14:50] <escott> Valkyr, do you know much about ACPI?
[14:50] <bluefrog> playman, not a problem of giving up on you. teaching networking and so on is not something you do over IRC
[14:51] <bluefrog> playman, takes time to learn.
[14:51] <Valkyr> Nothing at all. Just that it stands for Advanced Configuration and Power Interface.
[14:51] <ironhalik> Is there a way to use features from Unity in Unity-2d (mainly the workspace switcher)
[14:51] <dr_willis> kalimojo:  unlikely. but stupid users can do stupid things
[14:52] <wormmd> So here's a weird one: my machine was bogging down horribly yesterday, so I restarted, and when it booted back up, it seemed as though all of my configurations had been wiped, e.g., hotkeys and such, and a panel showed up behind the GNOME Shell application bar at the top. I'm on Ubuntu 11.10 running GNOME Shell.
[14:52] <wormmd> Thoughts?
[14:52] <ikonia> wormmd: check the configuration files, see if they are blanked
[14:53] <kalimojo> is it possible for someone to send a malicious link to firefox and hijackt it under ubuntu ??
[14:53] <playman> bluefrog: yeah I know. I was able to setup my own DHCP server on the ubuntu machine, so seting up the fog should not have been so much trouble, except it seems to have deleted all the settings i've made and left me in the dark.
[14:53] <martian> Is it possible to launch a gnome-terminal and have its task icon be something custom?
[14:53] <a11> ciao a tutti
[14:53] <ikonia> kalimojo: depends if they know a security hole
[14:53] <escott> Valkyr, so its a set of "standards". by the standards the kernel looks up some table in the bios and the table indicates that by putting values x,y,z into register location r the hardware will change settings in some nice way, but half the time those bios tables are wrong (or the hardware is not following the standard) so the kernel says I have 10 backlight levels with register values x1 to x10, but the hardware is not following those va
[14:53] <escott> lues the way the kernel thinks it should. so the kernel thinks it is lowering the backlight to the middle level, but its actually turning the backlight off
[14:54] <kalimojo> dr_willis : are you saying its possible for malicious web sites to compromise firefox on ubunhtu ?
[14:54] <ikonia> kalimojo: if the person writing the attack knows of a security hole, sure
[14:54] <CharminTheMoose> How can I change the default 'installing missing plugins' firefox dealio to just use gksudo, rather than gksu? Running a ubuntu-minimal 11.04 install here
[14:54] <escott> Valkyr, and so you need to find a workaround to deal with your (broken) backlight and handle it differently. the kernel has various boot options including some that will change the acpi backlight handling
[14:54] <ikonia> kalimojo: I can break into fort knocks if I know there is a hole in their security
[14:55] <bastidrazor> ikonia: can i be a part of your team. i can drive the getaway car.
[14:55] <Valkyr> escott - so then the workaround would start with something from the bios screen? (booting with F* or something)?
[14:55] <dr_willis> kalimojo:  worse case user may mess up stuff in their home. but unlikely
[14:55] <Valkyr> F8* sorry.
[14:56] <escott> Valkyr, see http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_ACPI_work (although this has more kernel compile related stuff which you dont want to do) http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[14:56] <escott> Valkyr, so the workaround is to figure out if someone has the same laptop as you and has posted a solution
[14:56] <Valkyr> Thank you!
[14:56] <CharminTheMoose> dang, chroot install rather
[14:56] <kalimojo> ikonia : are you saying firefox is vulnerable ?
[14:56] <escott> Valkyr, if not then you can modify /etc/default/grub to include some of these kernel boot parameters to try and make the backlight work
[14:57] <ikonia> kalimojo: all software "may" be vulnerable the problem is you don't know of a vulnerablility until someone finds it
[14:57] <Trevor69420> ikonia, if you broke into fort knox u'd be terribly disappointed
[14:57] <escott> Valkyr, in particular acpi_backlight=[vendor,video] option
[14:57] <HoNgOuRu> is there any way of recovering the volume indicator in gnome 3 ?
[14:57] <dr3mro> hello , I use ubuntu 11.10 and i have this USB disk with very important powerpoint files that i have deleted by accident by shift+delete .. can any one help
[14:57] <escott> HoNgOuRu, what volume indicator?
[14:57] <kalimojo> ikonia : are there any KNOWN vulnerabilities in FIREFOX ? that you know of ?
[14:58] <HoNgOuRu> the icon next to the time.
[14:58] <escott> !testdisk | dr3mro
[14:58] <HoNgOuRu> to control the audioo
[14:58] <ikonia> kalimojo: check the securit CVE reports, that will show you current alerts and versions
[14:58] <escott> !undelete | dr3mro
[14:58] <dr_willis> kalimojo:  check the various browser security sites
[14:58] <wormmd> kalimojo, I'm really curious as to why you're so curious...
[14:59] <escott> dr3mro, assuming that this is a vfat usb stick testdisk or photorec should handle the situation fairly well. just umount that partition so that you aren't writing anything to it
[14:59] <dr3mro> escott, photorec is able to retore ppt files?
[14:59] <escott> HoNgOuRu, there is an icon just to the left of the networking icon which is sound
[15:00] <HoNgOuRu> escott that one is gone!
[15:00] <escott> dr3mro, i don't know if photorec identifies ppts, but testdisk should be able to read the old fat entries
[15:01] <HoNgOuRu> escott, that one is missing
[15:02] <CharminTheMoose> How can I change the default 'installing missing plugins' firefox dealio to just use gksudo, rather than gksu? Running a debootstrap 11.04 install here
[15:02] <escott> HoNgOuRu, if you go into control center is your sound working there?
[15:02] <chrisgeorge> hey all, need a little help. After rebooting ubuntu (and using it forever and a day) all of a sudden it's starting up in intramfs/busybox, is there anything I can do to prevent this? Or any commands to run to help you help me?
[15:02] <HoNgOuRu> only the dog barking ...the rest is gray like disabled
[15:02] <anhday> people, should i ask source /etc/profile in my .bashrc?
[15:02] <dr_willis> i thought on ubuntu gksu and gksudo we identical.
[15:02] <kalimojo> wormmd ; cos i think ive been hacked thats why
[15:03] <maasha> hey, how do you set an environment variable using bash on ubuntu as root? methinks the root account is disabled - and sudo export don't work.
[15:03] <nkrypt_> it's ok, I can wait :)
[15:03] <kalimojo> someone sent me a link of a mudkip and my browser was asked to restart. its done several odd things since then.
[15:03] <escott> HoNgOuRu, sounds like you have a more general alsa/pulse-audio issue
[15:03] <dr_willis> maasha:  /root/.bashrc perhaps
[15:03] <kalimojo> wormmd someone sent me a link of a mudkip and my browser was asked to restart. its done several odd things since then.
[15:03] <HoNgOuRu> I uninstalled alsa
[15:04] <HoNgOuRu> cause flash videos were playing with no sound at all
[15:04] <escott> HoNgOuRu, and what did you expect would happen then
[15:04] <dr_willis> maasha:  sudo export would be pointless
[15:04] <HoNgOuRu> I got pissed off
[15:04] <HoNgOuRu> escott, :) ,,, sound is working.
[15:04] <maasha> dr_willis: yes, what is the way?
[15:05] <dr_willis> maasha:  totally depends on the details.  root has their own .profile and .bashrc
[15:07] <xubuntu5>  can i send an x11 application to the background via the terminal if i start it with the terminal?
[15:07] <escott> xubuntu5, ctrl-z; bg
[15:08] <maasha> dr_willis: I need to run sudo gem update --system. That can only be done if a certain env variable is set.
[15:08] <xubuntu5> and that will send my x11 app away? but still available?
[15:08] <kernix> hi all could someone tell me how to find out from the cli what version my kernel is please ?
[15:08] <dr_willis> maasha:  make a script that sets the variables and does the command perhaps
[15:08] <escott> HoNgOuRu, im not sure how anything on your system is working. obv you couldn't have completely removed alsa as that is your kernel sound driver. but what exactly you did remove is unclear
[15:08] <escott> kernix, uname -a
[15:09] <xubuntu5> will that ctrl-z work if the app is being x11 forwarded
[15:09] <CharminTheMoose> How can I change the default 'installing missing plugins' firefox dealio to just use gksudo, rather than gksu? Running a debootstrap 11.04 install here
[15:09] <kernix> thanks escott
[15:09] <escott> xubuntu5, why would it not?
[15:09] <xubuntu5> it doesnt' seem to work when i press ctrl-z app still runs in the x window
[15:09] <xubuntu5> doesn't seem to disappear
[15:09] <escott> xubuntu5, what do you mean by background?
[15:10] <HoNgOuRu> escott, I was really tired of fixing sound issues with firefox/chrome and flash, so the moment I uninstalled alsa it started working...
[15:10] <xubuntu5> the hope is that i can start an application on my computer via X forwarding send it to the background and then open it up on the computer itself
[15:10] <dr_willis> xubuntu5:  it wont work that way
[15:10] <xubuntu5> darn
[15:10] <maasha> dr_willis: right
[15:10] <xubuntu5> thanks for your help
[15:10] <dr_willis> you dont just shift its output to a different display
[15:11] <xubuntu5> can't be done at all?
[15:11] <dr_willis> via vnc.. yes
[15:11] <escott> xubuntu5, ok you want to switch what server it appears on. much harder. can be done with screen and an xserver in between
[15:11] <dr_willis> but it will take extra work  xubuntu5
[15:12] <xubuntu5> hmmm
[15:12] <xubuntu5> i do use byobu
[15:12] <zykotick9> escott: do you mean it's possible to "screen" xorg applications?
[15:13] <HoNgOuRu> escott,  I'll reinstall alsa and try to fix future sound problems with other ways...thank you for the time spent.
[15:13] <escott> zykotick9, if you start it in screen and run it to an xnest (could not think of the program) instance
[15:13] <xubuntu5> xnest hmmm will try that
[15:13] <escott> xubuntu5, vnc is a lot easier
[15:13] <tumppu> aika ruskean näköstä kultaa
[15:14] <escott> xubuntu5, but if you dont want vnc look into screen+xpra/xnest/xmove
[15:14] <dr_willis> a hidden minimal vnc session, lete you get to the app from any pc. ;)
[15:14] <xubuntu5> i do have x11vnc set up probably just easier to keep using that lol than  screen+xpra/xnest/xmove
[15:15] <dr_willis> xubuntu5:   you can set vnc to share a minimal desktop.  not the whole desktop
[15:16] <xubuntu5> and minimal desktop being just 1 application?
[15:16] <maasha> dr_willis: thanks
[15:16] <maasha> exit
[15:16] <chown_> man its hard to get freenode under sasl on ubuntu
[15:16] <dr_willis> and a mini window manager like jwm
[15:17] <xubuntu5> is jwm better than icewm?
[15:17] <dr_willis> chown_:  yep. got issues with that on my android
[15:17] <dr_willis> jwm is smaller
[15:17] <xubuntu5> less resources too?
[15:17] <xubuntu5> thanks for your help
[15:17] <dr_willis> icewm is old skool and showing its age
[15:17] <dr_willis> !info jwm
[15:17] <xubuntu5> wow
[15:17] <xubuntu5> will try that!
[15:17] <xubuntu5> thanks!
[15:17] <Guest99805> hey
[15:18] <xubuntu5> sudo apt-get install jwm time :)
[15:18] <Guest99805> what is the best channel for learn to hack ?
[15:18] <xubuntu5> not this one
[15:18] <xubuntu5> might want to learn linux first though :) and then learn some programming skills
[15:18] <roasted_> RAID Question - Someone had told me you should use software raid with the entire disk, meaning mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sda, but EVERY single guide I read says mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sda1, where you would add the partition to the raid. Is there an advantage to using the drive?
[15:18] <dr_willis> 'learn to hack' is  a vague and silly statement.
[15:19] <dr_willis> go learn python, or bash ;)
[15:19] <xubuntu5> i like perl myself
[15:19] <escott> roasted_, you should always have a partition table. very dangerous to not have one
[15:19] <roasted_> escott: so you would vote /dev/sda1?
[15:19] <escott> roasted_, yes
[15:19] <roasted_> escott: I haven't seen a single guide not use that method, I began to wonder why that user told me to use the entire drive...
[15:19] <escott> roasted_, but sda1 can be the entire disk
[15:20] <roasted_> escott: oh it is, but even still he said use sda not sda1, etc.
[15:20] <roasted_> escott: I began hitting up guides to see if that advice he gave showed up and in no guides did it.
[15:20] <martian> Guest99805: 'hacking' means knowing a lot about programming, operating systems and their internals, and common programming mistakes. Start by spending a lot of time writing C
[15:21] <escott> roasted_, think about what happens if you dont have a partition table and take your data disk and put it in another machine... that machine sees the entire disk as unallocated. one drunken night later you "found" this empty disk and reformatted it, but whatever happened to your previous disk
[15:21] <xubuntu5> this jwm is sweet does it have any settings to configure at all such as hotkeys/keybindings??
[15:21] <sun_devil> Anyone know how to printer to a home network wireless printer.  Sorry to say its a Kodak esp7
[15:21] <dr_willis> xubuntu5: yes. ..
[15:22] <roasted_> escott: I didn't think it made sense either. I couldn't get too much info out of the guy because he was very beligerent and very "just do it this way and don't ask qu estions". Yeah okay...
[15:22] <zykotick9> escott: i wasn't able to find anything regarding screen+xnest from my initial search, best i could find was VNC.  This slashdot comments section mentions Xorg+screen several times (all stating not possible, or use VNC) http://ask.slashdot.org/story/08/06/29/1417247/persistent-terminals-for-a-dedicated-computing-box  It would be very cool, but i was certainly under the impression it wasn't possible.
[15:22] <xubuntu5> where do i / how do i configure that? thanks again for all your help
[15:23] <CharminTheMoose> How can I change the default 'installing missing plugins' firefox box to just use gksudo, rather than gksu? Running a debootstrap 11.04 install here
[15:23] <dr_willis> zykotick9: saw a flakey way to do it years ago. .
[15:24] <zykotick9> dr_willis: it would be very cool... I'm not a fan of VNC, but a true "screen" plus Xforwarding on SSH would be very cool.
[15:24] <escott> zykotick9, it ends up being much the same config as vnc. you run app -> xnest -> true display, but can switch the true display around behind the xnest (or xpra or xmove) instance without everything crashing.
[15:25] <escott> zykotick9, its possible that im wrong in that xnest can do this. it may not have all the bits needed to do the switching, but xpra xmove are built to do exactly this
[15:26] <dr_willis> !info xmove
[15:26] <zykotick9> escott: thanks, it's certainly something I'll look into.
[15:26] <escott> !info xpra
[15:27] <sun_devil> Trying to print to a Kodak ESP 7 wireless,  I don't think Ubuntu 10.4 supports that printer, cant find driver
[15:28] <zykotick9> escott: http://code.google.com/p/partiwm/wiki/xpra starts with "Xpra gives you "persistent remote applications" for X." then later "So basically it's screen for remote X apps." sounds promising.
[15:28] <martian> CharminTheMoose: Doesn't firefox just launch an ubuntu application to find them? In other words, I don't think it's firefox that does the gksu but is actually some other tool
[15:28] <dr_willis> check the cups.org site sun_devil
[15:30] <sl33k_> what command  to use to update to a newer version of firefox?
[15:30] <dr_willis> !ff
[15:30] <sun_devil> I tried that and they don't offer anything, I think it needs a certain driver.  Looked at the FAQ etc and nothing
[15:31] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
[15:31] <razor85> How do I remove a program installed from source again? "sudo make clean" does not work. What other options do I have?
[15:31] <sun_devil> Cups.org only offers (3) Kodak drivers?
[15:31] <cousin_luigi> Is it possible to remove every jre/jdk from the system? I tried, but the results aren't encouraging http://pastebin.com/HQeXaAZs .
[15:32] <dr_willis> theres linuxprinting.org also
[15:32] <escott> razor85, make uninstall but it may be too late if you already made clean. use checkinstall next time
[15:32] <martian> razor85: try make uninstall. make clean just cleans up temporary files created when compiling
[15:32] <arand> razor85: make uninstall    provided the makefile supplies that, otherwise, do it manually...
[15:33] <arand> razor85: Hmm, you could probably do a checkinstall, and then remove it afterwards, that might get rid of it easier
[15:33] <escott> razor85, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[15:33] <sun_devil> Tried a test page and its says connected to local printer but nothing happens
[15:34] <dr_willis> check the cups logs? enable verbose logginh
[15:34] <razor85> arand, escoot, martian: it says No rule to make target 'checkinstall' same with uninstall
[15:35] <arand> razor85: checkinstall is an application, used instead of make install
[15:36] <Ebron> uhm.. I connected to my home computer from work through ssh, now I'm home and see that I forgot to terminate the connection - how can I do that from this end?
[15:36] <rumpe1> razor85, not "make checkinstall", just "checkinstall"
[15:36] <arand> razor85: It might work to do "sudo checkinstall" and then "sudo apt-get purge foobar"
[15:36] <escott> Ebron, you can just kill the parent shell that the session started. when ssh sees the child process die it will terminate the connection
[15:37] <FreeTech> Hi, I'm new here, Do most people use this server or irc.ubuntu.net
[15:37] <theadmin> FreeTech: ubuntu.net isn't official for all I know. The official Ubuntu channel is this one.
[15:37] <FreeTech> thanks
[15:37] <arand> FreeTech: Aren't they the same?
[15:38] <razor85> arand: I first used "checkinstall lshell" and then "apt-get purge lshell"
[15:38] <razor85> arand: none owrks
[15:38] <theadmin> FreeTech: Actually, seems ubuntu.net as a website redirects to ubuntu.com so hm... Not sure, but still, this is the official channel
[15:38] <chown_> Is tehre a problem if i change my user name? My user home folder will change also?
[15:38] <cousin_luigi> ubuntu.net belongs to the spotchat network
[15:38] <dr_willis> i thought ubuntu.net as a freenode server
[15:38] <djQuery> the update manage keeps showing that there are updates available but when I click on it it doesnt open
[15:38] <escott> razor85, did you install checkinstall first?
[15:38] <martian> CharminTheMoose: So, the application that actually does the work is gnome-codec-install which firefox simply launches, so THAT is what would need to change
[15:38] <razor85> escot: yes
[15:38] <razor85> escott*
[15:38] <arand> razor85: That's not how to use checkinstall, see my comment above
[15:38] <mr_pause> hello
[15:38] <djQuery> last thing I think I installed before this happened was playonlinux
[15:38] <mr_pause> Does anyone know how to configure the DHCP configuration priority ?
[15:39] <Ebron> escott: you mean something like 'ps waux|grep ssh|grep tty' followed by kill pid?
[15:39] <mr_pause> I mean, i have two intefaces, both using DHCP, and the second one is overwriting DNS setting (/etc/resolv.conf) of the first one
[15:39] <Ebron> where tty is the appropriate tty
[15:39] <mr_pause> I need this the other way around
[15:39] <escott> Ebron, i would kill the bash instance not the ssh instance. look at pstree to find the parent
[15:39] <CharminTheMoose> martian, was that intended for me?
[15:39] <razor85> arand: So what's the purpose of checkinstall, it just installs it for me again. It says "Debian package creation selected." I didn't see you mentioned how to use it.
[15:40] <escott> razor85, but now there is an instance in the database so you can ask apt to remove it
[15:40] <arand> djQuery: What happens if you run "sudo apt-get install -f in a terminal" (just see what it says)
[15:40] <zykotick9> razor85: once the DEB is created, install the deb "sudo dpkg -i FILENAME.deb"
[15:40] <lampe2> hey iam useing ubuntu 12.04 and i cant install java7... i found a ppa but the key dont work can some one help?
[15:41] <zykotick9> razor85: checkinstall is VERY handy, especially if you want to remove the package cleanly
[15:41] <sun_devil> Ubuntu is not very compatible with many printers
[15:41] <cousin_luigi> lampe2: are you using webupd8team/java ?
[15:41] <CharminTheMoose> martian, my bad, saw your other reply. Well I mean once I've selected the plugin to install, another box comes up that asks me for my password that looks very similar to gksu. And I know fromm previous experience that gksu-ing as root on ubuntu is a no-go.
[15:41] <martian> CharminTheMoose: Line 91 of /usr/share/pyshared/GnomeCodecInstall/PackageWorker.py
[15:41] <lampe2> cousin_luigi,  no is there one from them? i will look for it
[15:41] <dr_willis> sun_devil: its more like the printer makers dont support cups
[15:41] <cousin_luigi> lampe2: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[15:41] <arand> zykotick9: Hmm, does chekcinstall set a different prefix by the way?
[15:42] <zykotick9> arand: it might?  no idea.
[15:42] <martian> CharminTheMoose: you could just edit that to be gksudo :)
[15:42] <sun_devil> Kodak most likely has never heard of cups or Linux, so Iam not going to bother to call them, I know what they will say
[15:42] <lampe2> thx cousin_luigi
[15:42] <Ebron> escott: what would have happened to the shell if I killed the ssh-process instead?
[15:42] <zykotick9> sun_devil: would you claim "apple doesn't support many printers"? as they own CUPS
[15:43] <dr_willis> sun_devil:  i bet they have heard of it.. its also used by os-x
[15:43] <dr_willis> apple bought cups   ;}
[15:43] <djQuery> arand, it gives me a list of no longer required packages and this 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
[15:43] <sun_devil> I dont own a apple and somehow got mixed up with Kodak, which was a mistake
[15:43] <escott> Ebron, the shell should also die, but your ssh server might be confused by the sudden death of its children. if you dont care about that service ssh restart
[15:43] <zykotick9> dr_willis: a while ago, been to cups page in the last few years?
[15:44] <dr_willis> avoid canon printers also
[15:44] <razor85> zykotick9, escott: Please have a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/855473/ . I really don't know what to do.
[15:44] <cousin_luigi> lampe2: do you happen to know how to completely remove the other java virtual machines?
[15:44] <dr_willis> kodak went bankrupt this year?
[15:44] <bindi> hey, can anyone recommend me a SIP/SIMPLE server software?
[15:44] <ikonia> dr_willis: only the film processing gruop
[15:44] <ikonia> group
[15:44] <CharminTheMoose> martian, How strange, on this debootstrap install, I don't seem to have /usr/share/pyshared/GnomeCodecInstall folder. :/
[15:44] <zykotick9> razor85: the important part being "You are in a limited shell."
[15:45] <sun_devil> Dont call Kodak, you get someone from India, no wonder Kodak is going BK
[15:45] <djQuery> arand, the update manager does open onto the "taskbar?" and I can right click on it and choose install updates.  it just never opens its windows when clickin on it
[15:45] <razor85> zykotick9: I was installing as root, in a unlimited shell the whole time.
[15:45] <razor85> uninstalling*
[15:45] <arand> razor85: A looks like checkinstall uses a prefix or something :(
[15:45] <Chipzzz> bindi: apache can be fairly simple
[15:45] <Ebron> escott: thank you :)
[15:45] <escott> razor85, you might have confused apt by installing a deb when the files already existed. im not sure what apt will do when asked to remove a deb which installed files that already existed
[15:45] <bindi> Chipzzz: what, apache? i'm pretty sure that's not a SIP server
[15:46] <martian> CharminTheMoose: weird. do you have a binary called gnome-codec-install? type "which gnome-codec-install"
[15:46] <zykotick9> razor85: ah sorry, there are two commands in your paste - my bad
[15:46] <Chipzzz> sorry... thought the sip was a typing mistake
[15:46] <razor85> arand, escott, zykotick9: What's the best thing to do now
[15:46] <`korvin> I'm trying to install wine, it keeps asking me to insert the kubuntu disc
[15:47] <CharminTheMoose> martian, Hmm, nope, I don't either.
[15:47] <escott> razor85, if the checkinstall doesnt remove the binary you have to make uninstall and pray it doesn't remove anything you need
[15:47] <arand> razor85: Well I'm guessing you're back to where you started, so removing manually, I guess?
[15:47] <turbotax> hi everyone
[15:47] <cousin_luigi> `korvin: either you insert the disc or remove the local repository
[15:47] <john_____> hi
[15:47] <zykotick9> `korvin: remove CDs from your available repos (somewhere in U.S.C i'd guess)
[15:47] <escott> razor85, you can look at the deb file to audit the files it installed and make sure nothing is critical tehre
[15:47] <sun_devil> I also can't refill my ink because they put a chip on the ink cartridge that tells printer it is empty when you refill it
[15:47] <cousin_luigi> sun_devil: I thought there were workarounds for that
[15:47] <martian> CharminTheMoose: it's a debian distro you say? Not ubuntu? (I don't care heh)
[15:48] <ironhalik> Can I try Unity2d from the live cd? When I logout, check Unity2d log back in, it always starts Unity3D
[15:48] <razor85> escott: Seems a good idea, will do that.
[15:48] <sun_devil> Nobody figured it out, even the places that make money refilling cartridges, if they had a workaround, they would use it to make money
[15:49] <CyberDawg> sun_devil, refill services that refill your cartridges replacereset those chips... Costco does for sure
[15:49] <ilari_> Hello folks! Have anyone else problems with flash since last update? Youtube-videos still works somehow but almost nothing else will. Rightclicking videos shows that ''AVM2 - not supported''
[15:49] <arand> razor85: Which application is it by the way?
[15:49] <wormmd> I've internet'd all over the place for this: how do I remove gnome-panel?
[15:49] <sun_devil> Nope, tried it. They cant reset the chip
[15:49] <CharminTheMoose> martian, it's a debootstrapped ubuntu 11.04 install. So a basic install of bash, few other libs etc, then I chrooted into it and started adding packages from the official repositories. No Gnome/KDE DE stuff either.
[15:49] <wormmd> I'm running GNOME 3 Shell and the panel is showing up behind my transparent application bar.
[15:49] <shubbar> my Logitech webcam has vertical lines. Its C270, it should work as its in the compatible list
[15:49] <martian> CharminTheMoose: oh nevermind I see what it is. Hmm. I don't know. Without being in the environment to poke around not much I can tell. Try to figure out what the binary is called that FF is calling to do the loading, view the source and see what's happening :-/
[15:49] <razor85> arand: It's lshell, a limited shell.
[15:49] <ff> s
[15:50] <ironhalik> shubbar: I know its not helpfull, but it works for me out of the box
[15:50] <CyberDawg> sun_devil, interesting... Costco does it for me all the time... they replace the chip I believe
[15:50] <martian> CharminTheMoose: so despite the minimal userspace, FF still loads the install plugins thingy?
[15:50] <ironhalik> shubbar: I had some color issues with older nvidia drivers, had to use noveau or the latest ones from nvidia
[15:50] <shubbar> ironhalik, it the picture crisp clear?
[15:50] <ironhalik> shubbar: right now, yes
[15:51] <Gentoo64> http://goo.gl/67JW8
[15:51] <razor85> escott: What's the best way to check the files the deb uses? Just install the deb again with -i ?
[15:51] <sun_devil> For Kodak?  I have been to refill businesses and they turn me away
[15:51] <CharminTheMoose> martian, yes, the plugin-service-finder or so the taskbar says. Which then calls something that looks like gksu, when I'd rather have it run gksudo. :)
[15:51] <martian> CharminTheMoose: I may have to look in to this debootstrap thing myself. been meaning to learn how to create a nice safe chroot environment for others to be able to develop on my servers
[15:51] <CyberDawg> sun_devil, what printer cartridge do you use?
[15:51] <shubbar> ironhalik, does nivida driver affect the webcam operation?
[15:52] <wormmd> I've internet'd all over the place for this: how do I remove gnome-panel?
[15:52] <wormmd> I'm running GNOME 3 Shell and the panel is showing up behind my transparent application bar.
[15:52] <CyberDawg> sun_devil, oh I dont know about Kodak stuff
[15:52] <ironhalik> shubbar: for me it did
[15:52] <zykotick9> sun_devil: be sure to consider your experience, and do more research, before purchasing a printer next time.
[15:52] <CyberDawg> sun_devil,  google is our friend :)
[15:53] <arand> razor85: YOu can use "dpkg --contents lshell.deb"
[15:53] <martian> CharminTheMoose: what's the difference between gksu and gksudo anyway?
[15:53] <sun_devil> It has a color and b & w cartridges.    10b and 10c
[15:53] <razor85> arand: Ah okay, will try it now.
[15:53] <escott> razor85, -c
[15:53] <arand> razor85: Isn't lshell using the python setup.py instead?
[15:53] <CharminTheMoose> martian, ah cool. Likewise I've been wanting to investigate ssh chroot jails etc.
[15:53] <zykotick9> martian: on relies on su the other sudo (on ubuntu, i see no real difference)
[15:54] <Chipzzz> mormmd: have you tried auto-hiding the gnome panel?
[15:54] <CharminTheMoose> on ubuntu, you can't access root with su, even by setting a password, from what I've tried.
[15:54] <sun_devil> Hopefully others can learn from my mistake, its a family printer that I did not buy
[15:54] <CharminTheMoose> su/gksu rather
[15:54] <razor85> arand85: now you got me wondering. I'm not sure if that's just for the makefile
[15:54] <wormmd> Chipzzz, I can't access any settings for it in gconf-editor
[15:54] <Ovan>  /join #iutas
[15:54] <razor85> arand* woops
[15:54] <escott> !root | CharminTheMoose
[15:54] <sun_devil> Although I should be able to print to it somehow
[15:54] <zykotick9> CharminTheMoose: gksu works just fine
[15:54] <razor85> arand: Honestly I can't even remember how I installed it, since it was a while ago.
[15:55] <sun_devil> I works fine on Vista, but Ubuntu is a pain
[15:55] <shubbar> ironhalik, which nvidia driver version are you using? I'm using 280.13
[15:55] <arand> razor85: In case it does use the setup.py, it looks like the installed files are all listed in that script, in fact...
[15:55] <CharminTheMoose> escott, I did set a root password, so I know what it is. trouble is, gksu doesn't accept it/
[15:56] <CharminTheMoose> Hence my issue.
[15:56] <ironhalik> shubbar: for me, the open source ones, nouveau work best, when I tried the nvidia ones, the latest were better then the 173
[15:56] <Gentoo64> CharminTheMoose, i think gksu has a properties gui where you can choose su or sudo
[15:56] <Gentoo64> i think if its set to sudo gksu is linked to gksudo
[15:56] <razor85> arand: I see, do you know the python argument to remove/uninstall?
[15:56] <martian> CharminTheMoose: anyway, maybe if you bring up the plugin-service-finder then hit ctrl-alt-f1, log in, and inspect what processes are running, you could find the actual binary
[15:57] <arand> razor85: Unfortunately there are none.
[15:57] <zykotick9> CharminTheMoose: have you tried running any Xorg applications from your chroot (i'm guessing they currently will all fail to start)?   gksu(do) is an X based application.
[15:57] <sun_devil> I have used the scanner and printer options on Vista, but Ubuntu only offers (4) known drivers
[15:57] <arand> razor85: But like I said, look in that script, I think the files are enumerated there
[15:57] <razor85> arand: Yeah, they are. Doesn't look to harmless. What should I do now?
[15:58] <CharminTheMoose> Gentoo64, martian both very good ideas, I'll try them out.
[15:58] <Edson_JR> hi
[15:58] <arand> Well, manually remove them, I guess?
[15:58] <sun_devil> I searches for drivers but comes up empty
[15:58] <CharminTheMoose> zykotick9, yep I have, just did a export DISPLAY=:1 and have a xnest xserver running
[15:58] <dr_willis> sun_devil: checked askubuntu.com yet?
[15:58] <sun_devil> no
[15:59] <razor85> arand: Well, I'm not even sure how to do that, since uninstall does not work
[15:59] <zykotick9> CharminTheMoose: and are you feeding that same export to gksu(do)?
[15:59] <colby> what channel can i go to for ubuntu help?
[15:59] <razor85> arand: You mean to remove the files?
[15:59] <zykotick9> colby: this one.  Ask your question.
[15:59] <CharminTheMoose> zykotick9, Yep, am running it from a terminal in the nested X
[16:00] <colby> i installed ubuntu 11.10 on an old p3 850mhz comp. after installation, i updated it and now when the computer boots, i get the grub>
[16:00] <colby> how do i fix it?
[16:01] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[16:01] <sun_devil> Should it really be that complicated to print from Ubuntu?
[16:01] <bluetuga2000> hi. could someone tell me where is located the directory os the themes
[16:01] <Gentoo64> bluetuga2000, /usr/share/themes
[16:01] <zykotick9> sun_devil: if you have a compatible printer, just plugging it in sometimes works.
[16:01] <bluetuga2000> thank you Gentoo64
[16:02] <Gentoo64> bluetuga2000, or ~/.themes for local ones
[16:02] <dr_willis> my printers work great in linux
[16:02] <laan> hello.. i have a question on openldap
[16:02] <giakar> ciao
[16:02] <dr_willis> plug in..  click a thing..  and go
[16:03] <zykotick9> dr_willis: my brother laser is the same
[16:03] <laan> does anybody knows a good tutorial to set up a openldap enviroment?
[16:03] <dr_willis> yep.  networked brother laser
[16:03] <zykotick9> dr_willis: no, cheap USB.
[16:03] <CuiZhe> Hi~
[16:03] <sun_devil> Its a wireless printer, should'nt it printer wireless?
[16:04] <zykotick9> sun_devil: you're almost certain to run into issues with wireless
[16:04] <martian> laan: Not off the top of my head, but I bet a simple google search would come up with many
[16:04] <sun_devil> I punched in the printer IP and the computer sees it
[16:04] <dr_willis> sun_devil:  check the cups Web interface?
[16:04] <dr_willis> it may have settings to tweak
[16:04] <sun_devil> I tried cups interface last time, too complicated and after hours, did not work
[16:05] <martian> sun_devil: you may have broken the IP when you punched it :)
[16:05] <zykotick9> sun_devil: is it possible to plug it in via USB to test?
[16:05] <sun_devil> tapped it
[16:05] <dr_willis> how vague.  :)
[16:05] <Edson_JR> Is there any development on the Ubuntu project for Android? He wanted to know someone is inside it ...
[16:05] <ikonia> Edson_JR: what ?
[16:05] <zykotick9> Edson_JR: try #ubuntu-phone perhaps
[16:06] <razor85> I installed this program called lshell, for limiting shell commands for others. I can't get it removed now. I manually removed the files but it's still showing up when I run the command. What do I do? And of course I tried all the uninstallation methods before that.
[16:06] <dr_willis> many printers have related frivers from other models that may work
[16:06] <ikonia> HP is a good example of that
[16:07] <Edson_JR> thanks Zykotick9
[16:07] <sun_devil> I will try the USB
[16:10] <zykotick9> Edson_JR: using TAB is a lot easier to complete nicks
[16:10] <escott> razor85, run "which lshell" and figure out where the binary is
[16:12] <razor85> escott: Thank you, you saved me from this trouble :P It's removed now.
[16:12] <starpile> I'm using rsync to download my entire webroot, I'd like to exclude ALL folder named .git will --exclude '.git' accomplish this?
[16:13] <starpile> (There are multiple repositories in the targeted directory
[16:14] <escott> razor85, there is sure to be other stuff too. like a man page and the like. also you should note that something like lshell would have to be very carefully constructed to make it work, its basically impossible to do correctly. a single interpreter and the whole security setup falls over
[16:14] <razor85> escott: There is entries in /etc/passwd. Sure there are man pages, but those won't really bother me I guess?
[16:14] <razor85> escott: It's no problem to remove those entries though.
[16:15] <Promille> !msg ubottu kasablanca
[16:17] <Promille> Does anyone know why "kasablanca"(kasablanca.berlios.de) was removed from reps? Compiling it gives the error message: "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail."
[16:17] <Promille> So, check this please and use another prefix
[16:17] <ikonia> Promille I didn't know it was ever in the repos
[16:17] <Promille> ikonia: it was http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/natty/universe/base/kasablanca
[16:18] <meegooo> whats difference between alternate image cd and main one ?
[16:18] <meegooo> in 12.04
[16:19] <ikonia> meegooo: the installer
[16:19] <Hiob10hiob> i think the alternate one is not a live cd
[16:19] <Hiob10hiob> you can just install from it
[16:19] <ikonia> meegooo: 12.04 support discussion is in the #ubuntu+1 channel
[16:19] <ikonia> Promille: best bet would be to mail the kubuntu mail list and ask the developmnent team
[16:19] <meegooo> ok, thanks
[16:20] <starsinmypockets> .
[16:20] <sun_devil> I hooked up printer via usb,  should I go with jetdirect with IP port 9100 or 2nd option of Kodak with device as printer?
[16:21] <Tarks> sun_devil probably the kodac option - jet direct works over the network I believe
[16:21] <starsinmypockets> Sorry for the repost I got disconnected: I'm trying to rsync my entire webroot, which contains multiple .git repositories... is there a way to exclude ALL folders named '.git' ... will --exclude '.git' accomplish this?
[16:21] <ikonia> sun_devil what make is the printer ?
[16:21] <Guest73948> :)
[16:21] <rebe> couple weeks ago I disabled overlay scrollbars, but now I wanna turn it back on, the problem is I don't remember how I disabled it, any hints ?
[16:22] <sun_devil> Kodak will not let me go forward, but I can with the jetdirect.  Its a Kodak ESP 7 wireless
[16:22] <ikonia> sun_devil what make is the printer ?
[16:22] <lamer13300980470> sun_devil there are good exploits for both so its 50/50
[16:22] <lamer13300980470> sun_devil there are good exploits for both so its 50/50
[16:23] <ikonia> lamer13300980470: exploits....really, he just wants the printer working, connected by USB,
[16:23] <escott> starsinmypockets, it should although a nice trick to use with rsync and git is to set your exclude-from-file to be your .gitignore and then put .git into your .gitignore
[16:24] <sun_devil> I did the jetdirect and it search for drivers. Came up with error  and still wants to search. MIght come up with another error
[16:24] <lamer13300980470> if thatds the case either one would do the trick
[16:24] <ikonia> sun_devil: have you looked if the printer actually has any linux support ?
[16:24] <starsinmypockets> escott so that git and rsync share an ignore file... which includes .git
[16:24] <sun_devil> Its a Kodak, it doen't
[16:25] <escott> starsinmypockets, exactly I do it for my box.net account (like a dropbox but the reject hidden . files)
[16:25] <ikonia> sun_devil: ok - so why are you pushing this ?
[16:25] <lamer13300980470> personally i would say kodak over jetdirect (less exploitable and easier to work with)
[16:25] <ikonia> 16:25 < lamer13300980470> personally i would say kodak over jetdirect (less
[16:25] <ikonia> oops
[16:26] <Pici> lamer13300980470: Lets stay on-topic here. This channel is for SUPPORT.
[16:26] <sun_devil> Well its wireless, that does not work, gave up.  Tried USB and it cant find it
[16:26] <ikonia> lamer13300980470: please stop going on about exploits, he's working with a printer
[16:26] <Boardinary> Hello, I am having an issue with the volume change keyboard shortcuts.  They work to change the volume, but there is no feedback "blip" sound played.  Anyone have any idea what the problem could be?
[16:27] <sskalnik_> how to stop a process?
[16:28] <sskalnik_> all I know is "kill <ID>"
[16:28] <escott> sskalnik_, suspend or kill?
[16:28] <R4ndZ> sskalnik_: killall? pkill?
[16:28] <sskalnik_> Is there a stop-process command that takes process names?
[16:28] <bluetuga2000> hi. could someone tell How i can I copy a directory to another in nautilus, with root permission?
[16:28] <escott> sskalnik_, killall
[16:29] <escott> bluetuga2000, you would need a root nautilus window (which I would discourage using)
[16:29] <sun_devil> I go to the Linux database for new printer and search for Kodak, gives (5) older models that are not ESP 7
[16:29] <Pici> sskalnik_: kill `pidof processname`
[16:29] <bluetuga2000> escott It's just to copy a theme to usr/shere/themes
[16:29] <ikonia> sun_devil: anything that of a similar period in time / specification ?
[16:29] <Chipzzz> sskalnik_: htop has a very convenient way of doing that
[16:29] <Boardinary> bluetuga2000, sudo mv -r [directory name here] [destination path here] without brackets
[16:29] <sskalnik_> Cool, thanks all
[16:30] <bluetuga2000> thanks Boardinary
[16:30] <Boardinary> bluetuga2000, thats is cut, copy is cp instead of mv
[16:31] <sskalnik_> Is there any reason to not use the "service <foo> stop" syntax and instead type out the whole path? I always use the newer shorter form, but some of the old hands I know type it all out.
[16:31] <Boardinary> bluetuga2000, so use cp for copy and mv for cut
[16:31] <sun_devil> Easy Share printer doc, driver cups?  ESP 5200 says recommended, another duplex and ditherered?
[16:31] <bluetuga2000> ok . thanks Boardinary
[16:32] <sun_devil> They dont give the specs in years, just the name of the printer
[16:33] <sun_devil> Last time I tried the Easy Share printer-doc.....which did not work
[16:33] <Chipzzz> sskalnik_: the terminal grumbles at me when i don't use the service <foo> stop syntax, so I assume they will deprecate the older style in due course
[16:35] <gener1c> i installed a phaser 6000 printer on my ubuntu 32bit and it works perfectly but when i try to send a print job from another location all i get is tons of lines that start with @pjl
[16:35] <sun_devil> I tried the 5200 recommended.  Gave me a errors saying cups
[16:35] <gener1c> ur talking to me?
[16:35] <sun_devil> Client error not authorized
[16:36] <gener1c> sun_devil: are you talking to me?
[16:36] <sun_devil> I have a feeling its a apt-get install thing
[16:36] <Pici> !who
[16:37] <gener1c> !who sun_devil
[16:37] <LordDeath> I have 3 monitors connected to my radeon hd card
[16:37] <LordDeath> do I need fglrx to use them in ubuntu?
[16:38] <LordDeath> I just want to use them as extended desktop and not as one single eyefinity screen
[16:38] <Tarks> sun_devil -all the available drivers should already be installed. If your printer isnt there, you can check the manufacturers website to see if they provide a linux driver, but its doubtful that they do
[16:38] <sun_devil> ikonia I think its a apt-get install thing
[16:38] <hacked_kernel> what is a good bouncer?
[16:38] <ikonia> sun_devil: what ?
[16:39] <designbybeck> Hello all, I am trying to setup a Public Access computer. I made a 'public' user with a basic password. They aren't part of the admin/root group. When they login, I don't want them to be able to change the password. I don't want them to be able to see the main users home folder contents.
[16:40] <sun_devil> Tarks, not installed and can't find any during a search for drivers.  Kodak does not have links for Linux
[16:40] <designbybeck> can anyone point me in the right direction / best practice to setting such config up?
[16:40] <escott> designbybeck, you should be looking at the guest account which is already enabled on ubuntu
[16:40] <designbybeck> This is going in a public area
[16:40] <shpngld> Hello everybody! I will be forever thankful if somebody help me! I am using xubuntu 11.04 with Firefox 10.0.2. The problem is all the gif animations that appear when browsing (forums in example) are very very choppy :-( I cant even scroll the page! I never have such type of problem w/ older verses of  Xubuntu! Can some1 help?
[16:40] <designbybeck> escott:  I'm acutally using Kubuntu, they told me to come ask in here
[16:40] <escott> designbybeck, and you should also think seriously about setting up a netboot for this device
[16:40] <designbybeck> because of the larger user base
[16:40] <sun_devil> ikonia, sorry, cant get it
[16:40] <ikonia> sun_devil: I don't understand what you are saying
[16:40] <designbybeck> what is a netboot escott?
[16:41] <sun_devil> ikonia, my ubuntu does not show printers in years doing a search for drivers
[16:41] <reesk92> ive got a question about ubuntu install
[16:42] <escott> designbybeck, so look at /usr/sbin/guest-account (although lightdm already does this for you). and always assume that hardware not in your immediate control is compromised so assume your system is compromised and configure it to request a system image off the network from a server you do control
[16:42] <ikonia> sun_devil: don't search in ubuntu - search in things like the cups website
[16:43] <shpngld> Hello everybody! I will be forever thankful if somebody help me! I am using xubuntu 11.04 with Firefox 10.0.2. The problem is all the gif animations that appear when browsing (forums in example) are very very choppy :-( I cant even scroll the page! I never have such type of problem w/ older verses of  Xubuntu! Can some1 help?
[16:43] <designbybeck> hmm, ok i think i understand that concept escott, this is going to have internet access, but not managed or supported by our IT
[16:43] <reesk92> basically im thinking of installing ubuntu on my laptop but im worried abut wether it will cause any issues with samsung recovery studio thats on its own partition
[16:43] <reesk92> if it breaks that partition in anyway i basically loose my windows 7 install media
[16:43] <sun_devil> ikonia, I have been to cups.org and they only offer (4) drivers for Kodak, which do not work
[16:44] <Hiob10hiob> !reesk92 save the patition
[16:44] <escott> designbybeck, does this have IT approval?
[16:44] <ikonia> sun_devil: read read what I said....actually doesn't matter, your printer won't work then, Bad luck
[16:44] <sun_devil> ikonia,  thanks
[16:44] <designbybeck> .....kinda escott.... shhhhhh......
[16:45] <reesk92> Hiob10hiob: you mean make a backup of it
[16:45] <shpngld> please help!
[16:45] <designbybeck> LOL..... yeah they are suppose to come by today to talk about it. The director of the Library approved it and was glad to do so because it served the community.
[16:45] <ikonia> reesk92: it should cause no problems as long as you don't delete the partition
[16:45] <reesk92> not planning to touch it
[16:45] <Hiob10hiob> yes
[16:45] <escott> designbybeck, well be careful. something like this could get you in trouble. Hopefully they can give you the appropriate static ip and then you can configure your bios to point to your desktop/server for the ethernet boot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[16:46] <reesk92> i know which partition it is and i am fairly sure it is controlled by bios so installing grub shouldnt hurt it
[16:46] <HacDan> is there a separate channel discussing ubuntu for android? anyone know?
[16:46] <shpngld> please help!
[16:46] <reesk92> HacDan: i wanna jump in there too
[16:46] <ikonia> HacDan: there is discussion in #ubuntu-phone
[16:47] <HacDan> thank you ikonia
[16:47] <reesk92> lets go HacDan
[16:47] <ksbalaji> Some app is wierdly accessing my hdd. How to find out?
[16:47] <ikonia> be aware though, there is nothing to discuss beyond what's on the website
[16:47] <BluesKaj> shpngld, justask your question
[16:47] <zykotick9> reesk92: you might want to try creating an image backup of your current HD, clonezilla is a livecd capable of doing it.  You'll probably run into the 4 primary partition limit problem with such a system.
[16:48] <shpngld> Hello everybody! I will be forever thankful if somebody help me! I am using xubuntu 11.04 with Firefox 10.0.2. The problem is all the gif animations that appear when browsing (forums in example) are very very choppy :-( I cant even scroll the page! I never have such type of problem w/ older verses of  Xubuntu! Can some1 help?
[16:48] <HacDan> ikonia: I'm looking to do an open-source version as canolical is only appealing to vendors at the moment
[16:48] <reesk92> zyko ill definatley do that
[16:48] <HacDan> s/canolical/canonical
[16:48] <martian> shpngld: sounds like your video card driver may be out of sorts
[16:49] <skypce> hello guys, how can i set super key for launch slingshot in ubuntu 11.10?
[16:49] <ksbalaji> My hdd accessing led is on without reason, other programs are noticeably slow.
[16:49] <shpngld> My video is nvidea mx
[16:49] <ikonia> HacDan: ubuntu is open source
[16:49] <HacDan> yes, but their work for android integration is not.
[16:49] <shpngld> BluesKaj,  I have never have problem like this before w/ prev ver of xubuntu, but when  upgraded, it failed
[16:49] <zykotick9> ikonia: that is debatable
[16:49] <ksbalaji> I had to close ff to get some speed.
[16:49] <ikonia> zykotick9: what is ?
[16:50] <ikonia> HacDan: where does it state it's open/closed
[16:50] <martian> HacDan: so you're looking for another linux distro to install on your phone?
[16:50] <shpngld> BluesKaj, what is the best way to fix the problem u think
[16:51] <HacDan> martian: looking to replicate what they've done
[16:51] <HacDan> ikonia: I emailed them and they responded that it isn't open source at this time
[16:51] <ikonia> HacDan: it's not even released, hence "at this time"
[16:51] <shpngld> BluesKaj,  when i block the image w/ adblock everything is fine, but I dont wanna block absolutely every .gif i encounter....
[16:51] <BluesKaj> shpngld,  have you checked your additional drivers options , I'm not familiar with Xubuntu so i'm not sure where that is because your graphics card driver probly needs updating
[16:52] <HacDan> ikonia: they stated it will released to hardware vendors. I can get you a copy of the email if you'd like
[16:52] <martian> HacDan: How about oh... http://source.android.com/
[16:52] <HacDan> martian: there's nothing in there for ubuntu on android
[16:52] <ikonia> HacDan: no thanks
[16:52] <shpngld> BluesKaj, how can i find that Aditional driver option?
[16:52] <skypce> hello guys, how can i set super key for launch slingshot in ubuntu 11.10?
[16:53] <martian> HacDan: so you want an open source version of something that hasn't been released yet?
[16:53] <shpngld> BluesKaj,  as much as i know xubuntu is debian based and very close to buntu, but made fot older machines like mine
[16:53] <HacDan> martian: sure, sounds about right, and I'm not asking for it, looking for discussion on starting the project
[16:54] <ksbalaji> No luck it seems. OK friends, I shall contact later. Bye!
[16:54] <BluesKaj> shpngld, have you asked in #xubuntu?
[16:54] <shpngld> BluesKaj,  is it on the same server
[16:55] <martian> HacDan: well, if a group of people, not canonical, fork ubuntu and alter it to be suitable for use on a phone, it wouldn't be ubuntu any more. It would just be a debian based OS inspired by ubuntu. Regardless, this is getting rather #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:55] <HacDan> martian: not what I'm looking to do, I'm fine with a stock ubuntu-arm experience
[16:55] <debaino> Installing eclipse from the ubuntu software center.It appears on the programming menu but not yet finished,shows in progress,4 hours now
[16:55] <HacDan> just looking for android integration.
[16:55] <BluesKaj> shpngld,  yes, just click on this  #xubuntu
[16:55] <shpngld> BluesKaj, alright I ll try there, 10xanyway have a good week3nd
[16:55] <Nach0z> one does not simply "integrate" into android
[16:55] <Nach0z> it is folly
[16:56] <andrunix> hi folks. I'm looking to buy a new laptop to load up Ubuntu on. Any suggestions?
[16:57] <BluesKaj> !poll | andrunix
[16:58] <xsl> !info usbmuxd | oneiric
[16:58] <subthalamus> should i be shot for streaming pandora through tor?
[16:59] <xsl> wen i try to remove usbmuxd it wants to remove gvfs-backends* libimobiledevice2* upower* usbmuxd* xfce4-power-manager*
[17:04] <`Korvin> is there a program for mounting an ftps drive?
[17:04] <`Korvin> sftp*
[17:05] <martian> `Korvin: the built in 'connect to server' tool works well for a basic connection
[17:05] <zykotick9> `Korvin: nautilus can quasi-mount stuff
[17:06] <`Korvin> martian, how do I get to that?
[17:07] <martian> `Korvin: um, in 11.10 they moved it... jeez I don't know. dig around. 11.10 ui is useless. For a more advanced approach, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[17:08] <dr_willis> !info sshfs
[17:09] <bellman> why does my system say GNU/Linux has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY?  does this mean ppl can slip in malware into the packages?
[17:09] <theadmin> bellman: Official packages? No. Unofficial ones? Sure.
[17:09] <dr_willis> bellman:  most software says that for legal reasons
[17:10] <bellman> what gates are there on the official packages so that people dont just commit whatever code they please
[17:10] <dr_willis> try to sue ms when word crashes...
[17:11] <dr_willis> offical repos have securitysignatures
[17:11] <ssfdre38> hey how can i change the server SSH MOTD?
[17:11] <martian> bellman: peer review and testing. it's plausible that malicious code could be released, but very unlikely.
[17:11] <dr_willis> paa's are not as safe
[17:11] <martian> !motd | ssfdre38
[17:11] <ssfdre38> nothing
[17:12] <martian> hmm, guess that's a fail. Well, there's some settings in the sshd config file, and you can simply change /etc/motd
[17:12] <Pici> ssfdre38: Take a look at the manpage for motd.tail as well.
[17:12] <dr_willis> The motd is not ssh specific  i belive
[17:13] <ssfdre38> well martian i did change /etc/motd and it didnt change and Pici sure
[17:13] <dr_willis> 'touch .hushlogin' to hide the motd
[17:13] <santosh> How i can use DVD styler for appliction instead of video ?
[17:17] <klemen> hello. i would need some help with java..
[17:17] <dr_willis> !java
[17:17] <klemen> i have all that, i can all so see web pages running java, just one webpage i cant
[17:18] <klemen> of course the most important to me
[17:19] <ssfdre38> klemen, then it can be with their coding and not your system if just one website's java isnt working
[17:19] <klemen> is there anything i can do?
[17:20] <ssfdre38> e-mail the webmaster about the problem and wait
[17:20] <dr_willis> try the oracle java or an older java oe the gpl java
[17:20] <tbws> hey guys, is there a way to upgrade from 10.04->11.1 using apt in the terminal?
[17:20] <reesk92> will a 2.1ghz 2gb of ram 64but cpu be enough to run 11.10 fast
[17:20] <log> !upgrade | tbws
[17:21] <klemen> ok i will try all that, thank you all for now :))
[17:21] <martian> reesk92: 'fast' is all relative, but.. sure
[17:21] <reesk92> ok lets rephrase will if be sluggish
[17:21] <santosh> How i can use DVD styler for appliction instead of video ?
[17:22] <martian> reesk92: probably not. A good video card is important these days too, but it should run fine.
[17:22] <dr_willis> santosh:  clarify the question
[17:23] <reesk92> iits a laptop o i cant do much with the gpu but it is capable of hd graphcs
[17:24] <log> reesk92: It should run fine, to be honest.
[17:24] <santosh> instead of video i want make the dvd of software with menus , sub-menu and with great background thumnails !
[17:25] <reesk92> thats good news i need good news after #ubuntu-phone have upset me
[17:25] <dr_willis> !defaults
[17:26] <tbws> log: thank you
[17:27] <dr_willis> santosh:  no need to msg me. no need to repeate to me what you said in the chennel.
[17:27] <compdoc> how can I add a line feed or carrage return when crontab adds lines to a log?
[17:27] <dr_willis> you can change defuault apps in the settings somewhere..
[17:27] <dr_willis> bbl
[17:27] <compdoc> everything is added to one long line
[17:30] <om26er> is there a way to block someone in xchat?
[17:30] <bastidrazor> om26er: /ignore om26er
[17:35] <reesk92> right im off to install ununtu see you on the other side
[17:39] <banseljaj> Hi.
[17:39] <wingnut2626l> how do i share folders between the host (ubuntu) and the virtual box (windows xp)
[17:39] <banseljaj> I have a laptop connected to a monitor, 11.04
[17:39] <wingnut2626l> ?
[17:40] <banseljaj> How do i get it to show one window on laptop and other window on monitor?
[17:40] <banseljaj> wingnut2626l: Install Guest additons in the virtual OS, and then activate "Shared folders" in settings
[17:41] <wingnut2626l> how do i install the Guest additions
[17:41] <ronsonol> What would cause login to consistently return as incorrect in a virtual terminal (i.e., ctl-alt-F4)?  Yes, I'm using the correct username and password.
[17:42] <L3top> wingnut2626l: apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-utils
[17:42] <L3top> I think thats right...
[17:42] <L3top> one sec
[17:43] <ivanoats> roelforg, r u here?
[17:45] <ironhalik> How can I try out Unit2D on LiveCD? When I log out, and select Unity2D from the menu, it logs into Unity3D
[17:45] <ivanoats> can anyone help me with a unity / xOrg problem? keeps going back to login screen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11714880
[17:45] <L3top> I think thats right. virtualbox-ose-guest-utils or virtualbox-ose-guest-x11
[17:49] <swex> can somebody explain how to change default bash pwd in kubuntu 11.10
[17:49] <lamer13300980470> passwd
[17:49] <swex> why is it ~/Documents not jsut ~
[17:50] <swex> no working directory
[17:50] <lamer13300980470> as root sudo passwd wtfever
[17:50] <Hiob10hiob> swex: dont get your question
[17:50] <escott> swex, lots of config files end up in ~, but you can change it by modifying ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[17:50] <xsl> how can i remove usbmuxd
[17:51] <xsl> it removes alot of stuff.. i dont need Iphone support on my workstation!
[17:51] <xsl> !info usbmuxd | oneiric
[17:51] <xsl> wen i try to remove usbmuxd it wants to remove gvfs-backends* libimobiledevice2* upower* usbmuxd* xfce4-power-manager*
[17:52] <xsl> !info gvfs-backends | oneiric
[17:52] <swex> Hiob10hiob, when I execute new bash from alt+f2 for example my working directory is ~/Documents instead of ~ why?
[17:52] <swex> escott, my question is not about user dirs
[17:53] <skypce> hello , does exist some app for change sound theme in ubuntu 11.10?
[17:53] <skypce> hello , does have some app for change sound theme in ubuntu 11.10?
[17:53] <swex> I can modify my ~/.bashrc by appending cd ~ but that's not right path I guess
[17:54] <skypce> how can i change the sound theme in ubuntu 11.10?
[17:54] <reesk92> how do i mount a drive from inside of the ubuntu live cd i need to check which partition has windows files in it so i know im installing to the right one
[17:55] <reesk92> wait i got it
[17:55] <swex> reesk92, just open nautilus and you'll see them
[17:56] <reesk92> yep for some reason the file manager in the left pane wont let me open thm but nautlis did
[17:58] <stultify> i need to transfer some files pc->pc over a xover cable. Which is the server and which the client?
[17:58] <reesk92> does the ubuntu parttion need to be primary or logical
[17:59] <escott> stultify, the choice of client server is up to you. which one do you want to be the server and what protocol do you want to use
[17:59] <theadmin> reesk92: logical partitions are like containers for more partitions. If you need that, Ubuntu can boot from logical drives just fine.
[17:59] <reesk92> ummmm
[17:59] <reesk92> still not sure which i want this isjust for ubuntu to live on
[17:59] <theadmin> reesk92: primary then
[18:00] <reesk92> ext4 ok
[18:00] <stultify> escott ssh, and I don't know what the server does or the client. Is the pc sending the files the server?
[18:00] <escott> stultify, it can go either way with ssh
[18:01] <stultify> escott: but one side requires openssh-server, right?
[18:01] <sambagirl> test
[18:01] <escott> stultify, yes
[18:01] <SubjectOne> where do i find the config file ( of stand. remote desktop om my ubuntu install ) ?
[18:01] <escott> stultify, and that would be what is called the server, but you can upload and download from an ssh server
[18:01] <sambagirl> !seen seveas
[18:01] <moes> The latest update to Firefox-10.0.2 canonical=1.0 crashed when using Yahoo games..This happens in regular or safe mode with add-ons disabled..Any fix ??
[18:02]  * stultify it's all becoming clearer...
[18:03] <number_> hellp
[18:04] <sambagirl> anyone have any idea on a vps i can run on lamp?
[18:04] <sambagirl> is there a such of thing?
[18:05] <sambagirl> i feel like i am in a turnstile in dc
[18:05] <sambagirl> or maybe its my f n thing
[18:05] <sambagirl> whatever
[18:05] <mongy> samalex, not sure I understand the question.
[18:05] <sambagirl> later
[18:05] <pmjdebruijn> hi guys, does anybody know about the status of lo-menubar (libreoffice with globalmenu support) in 12.04?
[18:06] <mongy> samalex, sorry wrong person.
[18:06] <mongy> sambagirl,  not sure I understand the question.
[18:06] <zykotick9> pmjdebruijn: reask in #ubuntu+1
[18:06] <pmjdebruijn> ah
[18:06] <pmjdebruijn> zykotick9: thanks
[18:06] <sambagirl> what i want to do is host some domains mongy i did it in the past but i want something i can control i even bought a raq4 but i messed it up trying to update it and lost everything it already had.
[18:07] <sambagirl> this channel has turned into a turnstile
[18:07] <sambagirl> and god knows i cant curse
[18:07] <`korvin> what's the name of the package that adds all the third party copyrighted packages
[18:07] <sambagirl> i mean fuck
[18:08] <zykotick9> `korvin: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:08] <`korvin> thanks
[18:08] <pangolin> !language | sambagirl
[18:08] <sambagirl> kovin it's called visa or mastercard
[18:08] <stultify> sambagirl: don't mind if I do ->0
[18:09] <reesk92> ive got a partition thats 104mb and says windows 7 loader do i need to keep that
[18:09] <pangolin> reesk92: yes
[18:09] <sambagirl> format the drive and dump the windows 7 stupido
[18:09] <reesk92> what does it do
[18:09] <sambagirl> are u retarded or what?
[18:09] <mongy> ugh..
[18:09] <llutz> sambagirl: stop it
[18:10] <pangolin> !guidelines > sambagirl
[18:10] <Adams> Salut
[18:10] <LjL> was lagging
[18:10] <pangolin> !fr | ArseeniK
[18:10] <reesk92> no im asking what it does cause i need to keep my samsung recovery software which has a my win 7 installer on it so if i take the wrong thing out ill be screwed
[18:10] <ArseeniK> Ok tks
[18:11] <Antares> reesk92, keep it in case you're worried. I doubt it takes that much space,  anyway.
[18:11] <pangolin> reesk92: it is what allows grub, the bootloader ubunt uses, to boot Windows 7 when you need to.
[18:11] <theadmin> reesk92: You need that to boot Windows (Windows 7 puts the bootloader on a separate partition)
[18:11] <DinoMuffin> reesk92: your talking about the recovery partition?
[18:12] <pangolin> reesk92: please ask your questions in the channel.
[18:13] <wolfric> quick question, in the gui when it comes up with the restricted drivers option, where is it getting that information and how can i find out where those restricted drivers are coming from.
[18:13] <moes> The latest update to Firefox-10.0.2 canonical=1.0 crashes when using Yahoo games..This happens in regular or safe mode with add-ons disabled..Any fix ??
[18:13] <wolfric> like is this just a contrib and non-free sources, how can i find the actual package name it's trying to install
[18:15] <Guest26808> hi
[18:15] <Guest26808> all
[18:15] <Seryth> moes: Fix: Don't use Yahoo games....there are plenty of other free games sites (better ones!) out there; miniclip, crazymonkeygames, FOG, etc etc.
[18:16] <fca2> exit
[18:17] <reesk92> i have no clue whats going on atm
[18:17] <Antares> moes, have you tried running them on any other browser?
[18:17] <moes> Seryth, Personnel preference...used for many years..until this last update ??
[18:18] <Seryth> moes: Uh, okay. Um....may be a flash problem?
[18:18] <Guest26808> hey anyone can tell me how to update lib in backtrack
[18:18] <Guest26808> i already tried apt-get install
[18:18] <Pici> Guest26808: This channel is for Ubuntu support only, backtrack support is in #backtrack-linux
[18:19] <Guest26808> but thr are error like 404 not founs
[18:19] <Guest26808> found
[18:19] <Guest26808> ok thanx
[18:19] <Guest26808> Pici
[18:19] <sirfifer> I just installed 11.10 on an existing Win 7 machine. ubuntu boots fine but win 7 does not even start. Used boot-repair but the basic options did not work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/855597/
[18:20] <reesk92> atm i have 5 parttion i have sda1 which says windows 7 loader i have sda2 which is where wndows 7 is installed i have sda4 which is the recovery software is installed and i have sda5 which i my file partiton where i keep my filed
[18:20] <sirfifer> My win 7 install is on sda3
[18:20] <reesk92> i wanna install to sda 2 where windos was
[18:20] <reesk92> when i go to do that it says it needs a root file system
[18:21] <FTFY> Question: When I set up 3d acceleration in my ubuntu VM, the desktop goes blank
[18:21] <FTFY> any ideas?
[18:21] <sskalnik_> FTFY:  rebooted the vm? Also, which virtualization tech?
[18:22] <reesk92> how do i give it a root fle system
[18:22] <sskalnik_> reesk92:  You'll need a partition formatted for Linux (ext3 or 4)
I've rebooted it, but nothing makes it work. Oracle VM Virtual Box Manager
[18:23] <sskalnik_> reesk92:  You'll need to shrink or nuke some partitions, sounds like.
[18:23] <methods> is it a known bug that unity doesn't manage ssh agent anymore ?
[18:23] <reesk92> i cant touch the others cause it might kill them
[18:24] <sskalnik_> FTFY:  host and guest OSes and versions? Latest vbox?
[18:25] <FTFY> All the accounts do the same. It's the latest Ubuntu/oracle version
[18:25] <sear> Hey all.  I just performed a fresh install of Ubuntu Server 11.10, and I can't get apt to update the sources.  I keep getting a bunch of 404s.  I tried changing to a different mirror, but the problems persist.  Anyone have any idea what's going on?
[18:25] <Shaun> not ubuntu, but has anyone here ever experienced gui apps going to sleep when the computer is left idle (the computer is most definately on!)
[18:25] <sear> apt-get update output: http://pastebin.com/v59zeN8N
[18:25] <sear> sources.list: http://pastebin.com/yVxQ6U44
[18:25] <FTFY> What is the advantage of 3d acceleration anyway?
[18:25] <sskalnik_> reesk92:  looks like you are in a pickle. I personally would offload the recovery software to another disk and reclaim that partition.
[18:26] <dr_willis> unity uses it
[18:26] <sskalnik_> FTFY:  unity and anything else that needs to do 3D can now do it.
[18:26] <Shaun> both Konversation and Xchat time out when I leave the pc, and reconnect when I come back to unlock the screen, but their logs claim the timeout occurs when I come back, when its clear from scrollback that it occured a long while ago
[18:26] <FTFY> Ah, thanks
[18:26] <reesk92> sskalnik_: i am super screwed seen as the only os on this machine atm is the ubuntu live disk so anything i need to do ha to eb done form here
[18:27] <moes> Seryth, I have shockwave flash 11.1 r102 updated on 2/13/2012 ??
[18:27] <dr_willis> when in doubt make backups....
[18:27] <Seryth> moes: I have no idea then, sorry.
[18:27] <sskalnik_> reesk92:  I would get a copy of clonezilla and make an image of the recovery partition and anything else I might nuke.
[18:27] <moes> Seryth, Thanks for trying !!
[18:27] <Antares> moes, did you try anything other than Firefox?
[18:28] <sskalnik_> reesk92:  You should make a backup of anything you can't afford to lose anyway.
[18:28] <reesk92> ssk is the windows 7 loader windows equiv to grub
[18:28] <moes> antaresa No I use strictly firefox
[18:28] <Seryth> moes: Np, sorry I couldn't help!
[18:28] <moes> Antares, No I only use firefox
[18:29] <sskalnik_> sear:  ping ubuntu.com
[18:29] <sear> sskalnik_: No issues with that.  I am able to wget from another server just fine
[18:29] <Antares> moes, download Chromium and see whether the games you mentioned work on there. It is available in the Software Center iirc.
[18:29] <reesk92> sskalnik_: if windows 7 loader is windows version of grub i can remove that pastion cause i know that my recovery partion will fix it
[18:30] <sear> However, when I try to wget from an ubuntu mirror, it doesn't work.
[18:30] <sskalnik_> reesk92:  I wouldn't do that.
[18:30] <reesk92> sskalnik_: why if im not duel booting wouldnt i not need it
[18:31] <moes> Antares, I can do that but this problem only occured after an update from canonical
[18:32] <sskalnik_> sear:  So you can ping ubuntu.com?
[18:32] <sear> Yes, I can, sskalnik_
[18:32] <sskalnik_> ok
[18:32] <CharminTheMoose> How can I change the default 'installing missing plugins' firefox box to just use gksudo, rather than gksu? Running a debootstrap 11.04 install here
[18:32] <Ho^Oh> What can I do to resolve grub-install,         I'm getting this error: "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."
[18:33] <Ho^Oh> I'm trying to install Ubuntu to a GPT-partitioned system (The harddrive is about 2Terabytes)
[18:34] <JulinBM> hi. brasilians online?
[18:34] <Pici> !br | JulinBM
[18:35] <sskalnik_> sear:  And mirrors.mit.edu?
[18:35] <sear> Yup, I can access that, too, sskalnik_
[18:36] <JulinBM> but, in english, i can speak?
[18:36] <sskalnik_> JulinBM:  yes
[18:36] <theadmin> JulinBM: Sure
[18:36] <Pici> JulinBM: Thats fine.  Just letting you know thats where the brasilians are :)
[18:36] <JulinBM> ok, thank you very much
[18:37] <Jon--> You can put comments with # in /etc/group right?
[18:37] <sear> sskalnik_: have you said anything recently?  I apparently timed out.
[18:37] <escott> Ho^Oh, why are you using grub1 and not grub2
[18:37] <rockets> you can use grub1
[18:37] <rockets> still?
[18:37] <rockets> wow
[18:38] <sskalnik_> sear:  Nope. Honestly I am perplexed as well.
[18:38] <theadmin> !info grub-legacy | rockets
[18:38] <theadmin> Huh
[18:38] <sskalnik_> Nothing is jumping out at me.
[18:38] <theadmin> Did they rename it or something...
[18:38] <sear> sskalnik_: Yeah, it's a really strange issue.  I haven't been able to find anyone with the same issue online either.
[18:38] <sear> I'll keep digging.
[18:38] <Guest22879> hi guys
[18:38] <escott> Ho^Oh, what you should be doing here is installing grub2, but using a gpt_bios partition for the bootloader
[18:38] <Pici> theadmin: grub 2 is grub-pc and grub 1 is grub
[18:38] <jamescarr_> when will Unity get fixed!?
[18:38] <escott> Ho^Oh, or grub_bios whatever it is called
[18:38] <theadmin> Pici: Ah, thanks.
[18:39] <Ho^Oh> escott: E: Package 'grub2' has no installation candidate                      <---------- I do not know what type of server I have exactly and what it's capable of.
[18:39] <jamescarr_> How the hell did Unity figure out how to make my gvim menu  go away :(
[18:39] <Antares> jamescarr_, what is wrong with it?
[18:39] <jamescarr_> I can never get it back reliably
[18:39] <jamescarr_> since the first unity release
[18:39] <escott> !info grub-common | Ho^Oh
[18:39] <JulinBM> pici I'm new in ubuntu
[18:39] <theadmin> jamescarr_: It's the globalmenu -- all the window menus are on top. If you don't wish to use that feature, remove the "appmenu-gtk" and "appmenu-qt" packages.
[18:39] <rockets> theadmin, nice try :P
[18:40] <theadmin> rockets: Thanks lol
[18:40] <JulinBM> pici: but, ubuntu is very good
[18:40] <rockets> I'm a sysadmin not a desktop user. I know things :D
[18:41] <Ho^Oh> escott: So that means grub common is grub2?
[18:41] <MrStupid> 13:46 < MrStupid> hellow im looking for a batch script to rename my pirated MP3's so the 1 is at the begining of the track and not at the end, does anyone have that batch script?
[18:41] <sskalnik_> sear:  Have you tried re-generating sources.list?
[18:41] <CoJaBo> Is it possible to script a mouse click, e.g., every second at a particular location? I need it to click the "connect" button on the wifi dialog (ideally, it would be set to connect automatically, but this appears to be infeasible)
[18:41] <sear> How would one go about doing that, sskalnik_?
[18:41] <Ho^Oh> MrStupid: Visit #Windows
[18:42] <escott> Ho^Oh, yes, and assuming you are bios booting a gpt disk you need a small grub_bios partition to hold the grub2 files that would otherwise go in the sectors<63
[18:42] <Ho^Oh> We don't do windows batch scripts here.
[18:42] <escott> Ho^Oh, rodsbooks.com gives many details on this here
[18:42] <sskalnik_> sear:  I use this one http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[18:42] <CXIV> Is persistent file size related with ubuntu performance on usb stick?
[18:42] <Ho^Oh> Gee, I hope I do not have to repartition again -.-
[18:42] <sear> Google dropped me there, sskalnik_.  Thanks!
[18:43] <ikonia> CXIV: it will be if you need to access it, how big it is will effect how quick it can be accessed
[18:43] <MrStupid> Ho^Oh: thank you, as now I know linux 11.04 does not support batch operations I will try windows
[18:43] <JulinBM> quit I'm going, thanks
[18:43] <Chill3r> ./join #lugradio
[18:43] <Ho^Oh> MrStupid: In linux, you make shell scripts.
[18:44] <Ho^Oh> MrStupid: Basically, it's a file with a collection of commands you would do in terminal normally.
[18:44] <escott> Ho^Oh, it can be super small 1MiB is plenty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS_Boot_partition
[18:44] <CXIV> ikonia But is there a big difference in access time?
[18:44] <ikonia> CXIV: depends how quick your device is
[18:45] <CXIV> ikonia I got usb stick with 20 mb/s r/w
[18:45] <hero1900> can i convert my linux mint 12 to ubuntu 11.10??
[18:45] <escott> hero1900, reinstall
[18:46] <hero1900> no way to fix without that
[18:46] <hero1900> ?
[18:46] <escott> hero1900, no have to reinstall
[18:46] <hero1900> okey thx
[18:46] <Antares> Hehehe, I wondered the same thing as hero1900 for my main laptop. Mint is not polished enough. :P
[18:47] <Antares> (I'm currently installing Ubuntu on it!)
[18:47] <Benxyzzy> I'm looping over the results of 'find' in a bash script. I want to also redirect the stderr of find (for logging). Anyone know how to do that?
[18:47] <Hiob10hiob> polished???
[18:47] <Chill3r> guys quick question - please ?
[18:47] <escott> Benxyzzy, why are you looping over find results use -exec or xargs depending on need
[18:48] <Antares> For example, when I move my mouse cursor all the way to the right, it's not actually in the maximized window -- there is a strip of desktop space.
[18:48] <Chill3r> is there a script out there what will clean up your wireless settings and just connect to a specific network
[18:48] <Benxyzzy> escott: I'm doing string manipulation on the results and calling out to ftp in each loop. This is a script, not just the command line
[18:49] <escott> Benxyzzy, i bet you could do this without the loop, but in any case use tee to split your output and then you can send part to stderr
[18:50] <Benxyzzy> escott: tee sounds about right; unless I can call script functions via exec or xargs I don't see how I could avoid the loop
[18:52] <Pikkachu> doesn't Ubuntu font supports Unicode?
[18:54] <Ho^Oh> escott: I do have a 64MB gap before SDA1,      but I'm not exactly sure on where to start,     I usually work on the old stuff, but this grub2 set up thing is rather alienating.
[18:54] <Mrhill|2> can i run dragon on ubuntu
[18:55] <escott> Ho^Oh, you only need 440bytes so add a small partition there select the type as grub_bios, then install grub-common package and see if grub-install does the correct thing. it should
[18:55] <Oer> Mrhill|2, dragon-player ?
[18:56] <Ho^Oh> escott: grub-common is already installed.
[18:56] <Ho^Oh> I'll just remove that in then install that again.
[18:57] <jacob_> Hi Ubuntuers, I got a question:
[18:58] <Guest56777> When I install 12.04 alpha now, will it automatically be upgraded to the final version via apt-get update && apt-get upgrade??
[18:58] <Guest9101> hi, i am was wandering which version of emacs is good for beginner?
[18:58] <rockets> Guest9101, /nick nickname
[18:58] <theadmin> Guest56777: Yes. But Precise is not supported in this channel, go to #ubuntu+1
[18:59] <_alex86_> hi, i am was wandering which version of emacs is good for beginner?
[18:59] <_alex86_> *wondering
[18:59] <Oer> Guest56777, upgrade will do, but be sure you have the iso on cd-r or usb
[18:59] <nathanel__> hello: i am trying to mount box.com folders for two separate accounts, it seems i have an issue: for both folders mentionned in fstab, only one account mountsfor both of theme
[18:59] <nathanel__> theme*
[19:00] <_alex86_> i looked at my Ubuntu software center I have found out emcas without X support? what is X?
[19:00] <_alex86_> *emcas
[19:00] <Jacobus123> @0er what do you mean by having the iso?
[19:00] <_alex86_> *emacs
[19:00] <nathanel__> X is your display server
[19:00] <_alex86_> ok
[19:00] <_alex86_> doesn`t say much to me though.
[19:00] <Oer> Jacobus123, iso = downloaded ubuntu
[19:01] <theadmin> _alex86_: X = graphical environment core
[19:01] <geirha> _alex86_: with X support: gui, without X support: cli
[19:01] <_alex86_> theadmin, alright
[19:01] <Hiob10hiob> cli = command line interface  ; gui = graphical user interface
[19:01] <Jacobus123> Okay, but do I still need the iso after installation for the update to the final version? Or does a update / upgrade suffice?
[19:02] <_alex86_> geirha, cli - command line interface?
[19:02] <_alex86_> ok
[19:02] <Oer> Jacobus123, no, you don't need it to upgrade, just in case you run in problems.
[19:02] <theadmin> Jacobus123: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will do it, you don't need the ISO
[19:02] <nathanel__> geirha: what's up?
[19:02] <nathanel__> geirha: know anything about davfs2?
[19:02] <Jacobus123> Okay, thanks...
[19:02] <_alex86_> are you guys actually using emacs or vi?
[19:03] <Hiob10hiob> i am on nano
[19:03] <nathanel__> nano rocks
[19:03] <arand> !poll | _alex86_
[19:03] <geirha> nathanel__: hi, and no, never heard of davfs32
[19:03] <Ho^Oh> escott: Then I set the new partition as /boot/grub?
[19:03] <nathanel__> crap.
[19:04] <Ho^Oh> _alex86_: ano
[19:04] <nathanel__> geirha: crap. its a web fs. i'm trying to mount two separate accounts on separate folders via fstab. but the mount registers only the second account to both folders
[19:04] <Ho^Oh> nano
[19:04] <escott> Ho^Oh, negative. this is NOT the /boot partition
[19:04] <gandhijee_> hey, how do i set my primary monitor in ubuntu 11.10? i can't seem to do it in the displays thing,
[19:04] <_alex86_> Ho^Oh, ok. i wanna to learn emacs and vi
[19:05] <escott> Ho^Oh, this is a partition with a flag that is "grub_bios" thats how it appears in gparted. it does NOT have a mountpoint. it is NOT formatted. it is raw space for grub to put things that would go after the MBR which you dont have
[19:05] <theadmin> gandhijee_: Try installing lxrandr, it allows much easier (and more senseful) display configuration
[19:05] <Ho^Oh> escott: I just have no clue what to do wit hthis partition regarding /ubuntu/etc/fstab
[19:05] <escott> Ho^Oh, its not in fstab
[19:05] <Ho^Oh> Oh alright.
[19:05] <nathanel__> helP! dis anyone ever use davfs2 or know anything about it to help me?
[19:05] <escott> nathanel__, yes
[19:05] <geirha> nathanel__: Hm. Pastebin the relevant lines from /etc/fstab
[19:06] <RenatoSilva> doesn't ubuntu font support Unicode? the celcius degree char (𡀳) looks like a square filled with zeros
[19:06] <escott> RenatoSilva, well that means it is supporting unicode but that the symbol is not provided by the selected font
[19:06] <qazokm> hello. whats the name of ubuntu's version of xfdesktop?
[19:07] <qazokm> im sure the answer is easy
[19:07] <zykotick9> !xubuntu | qazokm
[19:07] <gandhijee_> theadmin, yeah, but that doesn't let me choose the *primary* monitor
[19:07] <Pikkachu> escott: 'where selected' font equals to 'it'?
[19:07] <qazokm> i mean to say, what runs the ubuntu desktop zykotick9
[19:07] <nathanel__> escott: great! so here's the deal. i have two separate box.com accts. i made two separate entries in fstab for those accounts. i also included the credentials as specified in the sample /etc/davfs2/secrets and set the config in that same directory. the folders mount both both show only my second account.
[19:07] <Pikkachu> escott: where 'selected' font' equals to 'it'?
[19:07] <qazokm> i just dont know the name so i translated it in my own way :(
[19:08] <zykotick9> qazokm: sorry, i don't understand your question
[19:08] <Pici> picasso: are you sure that you're using the right symbol? ° looks fine to me.
[19:08] <Pici> picasso: sorry, that was for Pikkachu
[19:08] <plm> People, I add repos partner to install java, but after not found the packages. I'm using 10.4.4 LTS. any problem?
[19:08] <escott> nathanel__, holdon my box.net config is on the laptop which is turned off right now. booting
[19:08] <nathanel__> geirha: http://pastebin.com/BzqeRbYZ
[19:09] <nathanel__> escott: thx
[19:09] <qazokm> zykotick9, it is a process. im pretty nobish. i believe it starts with an m, and it runs the gnome or unity desktop, much like xfdesktop runs the xfce/xubuntu desktop.
[19:09] <escott> Pikkachu, what do you mean by "it"
[19:09] <Pikkachu> Pici: that's the actual char, I typed <ctrl>+u2103 and sent it
[19:09] <picasso> Pici: no problem
[19:09] <Pikkachu> escott: your 'it'
[19:09] <plm> I'm using this url https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes
[19:09] <plm> I see about java.. I did that and now works.. any idea/;
[19:09] <excelsior> hello, what's the recommended version manager approach nowadays? I need to install ruby 1.9.3, and I have 1.8.7, I do have RVM installed, but the rvm install 1.9.3 doesn't work, several errors. Thoughts?
[19:09] <plm> ?
[19:09] <Pikkachu> escott: nevermind sorry
[19:10] <Pikkachu> escott: you mean I need to select some sort of "Ubuntu Unicode" in the font list?
[19:10] <elsombrero> hi all, im installing ubuntu oneiric, and i want to use zfs for the root filesystems as well. Im currently following this document: https://github.com/dajhorn/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem  . It says that i must create my boot partition wiith type BE (a solaris type). Can anybody tell me why this is needed for ubuntu?
[19:10] <escott> Pikkachu, I mean try a different font. the font you are using in the application doesn't have that symbol
[19:10] <geirha> nathanel__: the source for both mounts are identical ...
[19:11] <nathanel__> geirha: no
[19:11] <Ho^Oh> escott: So far, I set the grub bios flag.     THEN I deleted /boot/grub            removed grub-common and grub*                    Then instaleld grub-common        which seems to have installed without an error.                Is there anything else I should be aware of?
[19:11] <Pici> Pikkachu: Thats the specific unicode for degrees celcius. I would't expect all fonts to have that glyph.
[19:11] <nathanel__> pay attn. one is "gmail the other is "hotmail
[19:11] <plm> please, anyone can help me with that?
[19:11] <escott> nathanel__, so mine looks like https://www.box.net/dav /media/box.net davfs noauto,user in fstab
[19:11] <nathanel__> geirha: pay attn. one is "gmail the other is "hotmail
[19:11] <Pikkachu> Pici: it's simply not properly rendered when using "Ubuntu". If I switch to "Segoe UI" it's rendered just fine
[19:11] <Pici> Pikkachu: i.e. the glyph contains "°C", not just "°"
[19:11] <Pikkachu> Pici: yes, so what?
[19:12] <escott> nathanel__, my secrets looks like: /media/box.net email@address password
[19:12] <nathanel__> escott: the issue is not with mounting it. its with the separate acct recognition
[19:12] <martian> plm: I don't understand the question
[19:12] <escott> nathanel__, so if you have two box accounts you would need two mountpoints in fstab and two entries in secrets
[19:12] <plm> martian: I wnat ot install java sun in 10.4.4
[19:12] <nathanel__> escott: which is what i have
[19:12] <nathanel__> no go
[19:12] <plm> martian: I read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes section Sun Java moved to the Partner repository
[19:12] <Chaser_> LTS user here . Wondering if GNOME classic (2.0) will still be an option in 12.04 ? (not here to argue/comment on Unity)
[19:12] <plm> martian: but that not works
[19:13] <Pici> Pikkachu: File a bug against ttf-ubuntu-font-family then
[19:13] <escott> Ho^Oh, i'm a little worried by the "deleted /boot/grub" it should be repopulated now so verify that it has all the grub modules and the grub.cfg
[19:13] <plm> any idea?:
[19:13] <martian> plm and what happens when you run apt-get update? does it show any errors?
[19:14] <andrea_> ciao
[19:14] <kenyabob> I sieged my server, and now I've been blocked. I can remote in, but I'm not sure what is doing the blocking. I flushed my iptables and I'm not sure what to try next
[19:14] <log> Chaser_: Yes, through the gnome-session-fallback package.
[19:14] <Ho^Oh> escott: /boot/grub folder is here,      just no grubenv
[19:14] <chipotle> how do i connect to a osx computer that has file sharing enabled?
[19:14] <martian> kenyabob: check your /etc/hosts.deny
[19:14] <Chaser_> log, nice thanks !
[19:14] <escott> nathanel__, if you umount them both, and mount them independently does it work. ie umount A,B mount A, is A correct? umount A mount B is B correct?
[19:14] <plm> martian: not, but apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin not found the packages
[19:14] <thelegace> hi guys im trying to use cpu_timer library in boost
[19:14] <thelegace> http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_48_0/libs/timer/doc/cpu_timers.html
[19:14] <thelegace> from this page
[19:14] <FloodBot1> thelegace: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:15] <thelegace> but it seems to be missing
[19:15] <thelegace> as i try the include in the tutorial and it cannot find the lib
[19:15] <kenyabob> martian: and my ip would be added into that file? it looks like its still default to me
[19:15] <escott> Ho^Oh, it sounds ok. you can try a grub-install again
[19:16] <escott> Ho^Oh, I don't know what grubenv does but you might as #grub
[19:16] <chipotle> how do i connect to a osx computer that has file sharing enabled?
[19:16] <martian> kenyabob: yeah, that would be the case. I guess that's not it. then :-/
[19:16] <nathanel__> escott: thanks
[19:16] <nathanel__> it worked! i had generic credentials instead of folder specific ones
[19:17] <nathanel__> escott: it worked! i had generic credentials instead of folder specific ones
[19:17] <chipotle> how do i scp a file from one computer on my lan to my ubuntu computer?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: nautilus can connect to windows shares. I image it will use samba on the mac side
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> !scp
[19:17] <escott> nathanel__, ok cool
[19:17] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: thanks, i think scp will be best... do you recommend i use cat6 to connect?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: the physical
[19:18] <martian> plm: if you run "grep archive /etc/apt/sources.list | grep partner" does it show anything?
[19:18] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: do i do that scp -R command on the host computer receiving the files or sending the files?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: physical media connection is fairly moot unless you are streaming very high bitrate video
[19:19] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: well, i am trying to transfer over about 100GB of data from my mac to my ubuntu file server...
[19:19] <plm> martian: show this: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner
[19:19] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: what is the best way?
[19:19] <chipotle> they are internal hard drives
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: nautilus can connect to sshfs
[19:19] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: okay, what do i do to see it in nautilis?
[19:19] <Hiob10hiob> different computer?
[19:19] <chipotle> Hiob10hiob: yes
[19:19] <martian> plm: okay good. try this: "apt-cache search java | grep sun" Does that show anything? (don't need to paste it here)
[19:20] <go8765> hello. help me please.  cant i send command from tty to lanch openbox again(after crash) ?
[19:20] <plm> martian: yes
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Chipotle: nautilus will give a convenient interface
[19:20] <martian> plm: does it show the packages you were hoping to install?
[19:20] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: so just enable ssh on my mac for sshfs to work?
[19:20] <Roasted> Question - I thought the ATI open source driver at least handled 1080 playback? I just fired it up and it's absolutely terrible.
[19:21] <plm> martian: not. with partner commented show the same packages on apt-cache
[19:21] <escott> log, 12.04 will NOT have gnome2
[19:21] <plm> when are partner uncommente
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: assuming it is enabled by default, yes
[19:21] <log> escott: http://blog.jdpfu.com/2012/02/20/canonical-listened-gnome2-in-ubuntu-12-04
[19:21] <plm> martian: sun-java-jre not show
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: how big is the screen?
[19:21] <Roasted> 37-40 inch orso
[19:22] <plm> martian: I did upgrade and install new version of 10.4, the 10.4.4 may be this is the problem?
[19:22] <martian> plm: with partner commented?
[19:22] <excelsior> Regarding Ruby and Rails, what's the recommended version manager approach nowadays? I need to install ruby 1.9.3, and I have 1.8.7, I do have RVM installed, but the rvm install 1.9.3 doesn't work, several errors. Thoughts?
[19:22] <curiousx> Roasted: what driver version?
[19:22] <plm> martian: #deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner
[19:22] <plm> martian: #deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner
[19:22] <Roasted> curiousx, I don't even know. :( I got it off a web site, one sec.
[19:22] <escott> log, thats really really misleading as gnome-session-fallback (that comes with gnome3) is NOT at all like gnome2
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Log: gnome2 is no longer developed by the gnome team. Its not going to be in any future distros
[19:23] <curiousx> ok
[19:23] <martian> plm: why are they commented? they shouldn't be. if they're commented, of course it won't work
[19:23] <Roasted> curfont, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:__Need_to_fully_remove_-fglrx_and_reinstall_-ati_from_scratch
[19:23] <Roasted> thats what I did
[19:23] <Roasted> gosh I cannot believe how terrible this thing is. I'll likely return it at this point.
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Log: there are unofficial forks which aren't supported here though
[19:23] <plm> martian: not. I say. If I comment they, the apt-cache show the same packages when ucomment
[19:24] <escott> log, fallback looks vaguely like gnome2 but under the hood it is completely different
[19:24] <plm> martian: the partner are ther uncomment, but dont have the sun-java-jre
[19:24] <neothecat> hello.  has anyone run into this?  i am able to get an IP through DHCP, but i can not get outside of my box.  the dhcp server even gives me a specific IP address based on mac, so i know it can reach outside my box.
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: i bet you could use 720P and notice near zero difference
[19:24] <zykotick9> plm: is you need sun-java, get it from oracle directly
[19:25] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: got it! sweet, thanks!
[19:25] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, with how terrible its operating I doubt even 480 would run.
[19:25] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, it freezes when I move the darn mouse.
[19:25] <curiousx> Roasted: you are using tehe open source driver? de default driver ?
[19:25] <wormmd> I'm running GNOME 3 Shell and I have a panel that mysteriously showed up behind my application bar the other day after some system problems.
[19:25] <Roasted> curiousx, not sure. from fresh install it was awful playback, then I found that link and installed accordingly. No difference.
[19:25] <Roasted> curiousx, same on 10.04 as it is 11.10
[19:25] <escott> wormmd, is it the nautilus menu-bar
[19:25] <wormmd> I don't have any entries in gconf-editor's /desktop/gnome/sessions
[19:26] <nathanel__> escott: so now they are both distinguished and functional, one little issue: when i click on the drive icon in nautilus it gives me this "/sbin/mount.davfs: / is the home directory of user nobody.
[19:26] <nathanel__> You can't mount into another users home directory"
[19:26] <martian> plm: hmm... are you sure you're searching for sun-java6-jre and not sun-java-jre?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> neothecat: run: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf       then try the web
[19:26] <wormmd> escott, It says File Edit View etc
[19:26] <wormmd> So maybe.
[19:26] <wormmd> I don't know.
[19:26] <badola_> Compiling Problem, Ubuntu 11.10, command used  :  sudo make install (for digikam)
[19:26] <badola_> http://paste.kde.org/428606/
[19:26] <escott> wormmd, thats the nautilus menubar. no idea what it is doing there. bug appeared about 2 weeks ago?
[19:26] <plm> martian: yes, apt-cache show sun not show that
[19:27] <wormmd> escott, Maybe, it only showed up yesterday.
[19:27] <escott> nathanel__, naut is just calling out to udisks so maybe udisks is confused... you could see if running udisks from the command line gives the same error
[19:27] <wormmd> escott, I rebooted because my system was getting horribly bogged down, and all of my hotkey settings goe wipes.
[19:27] <curiousx> Roasted: the driver ati that can be usit with gnome shell and without many bugs is the 12.1 version
[19:27] <wormmd> *got wiped
[19:28] <Roasted> curiousx, how do I install 12.1
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> neothecat: do you get web access?
[19:28] <wormmd> escott, Like something blasted away my configuration files.
[19:28] <go8765> help me please.  cant i send command from tty to lanch openbox again(after crash) ?
[19:28] <escott> wormmd, well the naut menubar is distinct from that. its on my laptop and a fresh install desktop
[19:29] <curiousx> Roasted: do you have ubuntu 32 or 64 bit version ?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> go8765: isn't it just: startopenbox
[19:29] <martian> plm: well, I can't think of what else would be the problem.
[19:29] <wormmd> escott, any idea on how to get rid of it?
[19:29] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[19:29] <nathanel__> escott: not sure how to do so
[19:29] <Roasted> curiousx, 64
[19:29] <thomas__> I just installed ubuntu 11.10 on my dell hybrid and booting from USB stick keyboard and mouse are detected, booting from HD they are not - any thoughts what to do?
[19:29] <nathanel__> escott: --enumerate only lists my actaul hdds
[19:29] <Lunar_Lander> still using Ubuntu 11.10 and for some reason the login sound isn't played anymore
[19:29] <Lunar_Lander> any ideas on that?
[19:29] <escott> nathanel__, udisks --mount /media/whatever
[19:30] <curiousx> Roasted: sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++6 dkms libqtgui4 wget execstack libelfg0 dh-modaliases
[19:30] <neothecat> ActionParsnip, i was able to get to DHCP while booting off the live desktop disk.  but i just rebooted into the installed, and i do not even get DHCP, and "/sys/class/net/eth0/carrier" is 0.  i think it might be hardware.
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Lunar_Lander: is it enabled in startup items? Are you that bothered for something so redundant?
[19:30] <Roasted> curiousx, can you show me where you found this information?
[19:30] <curiousx> yep
[19:31] <Lunar_Lander> ActionParsnip: it is there and I was just wondering
[19:31] <curiousx> but is in spanish i am latino =P
[19:31] <RobinJ> Yelp? My touchpad isn't working :<
[19:31] <Roasted> curiousx, thats fine
[19:31] <curiousx> it is*
[19:31] <go8765> ActionParsnip: hhm.. what you mean? when i type - startopenbox -- i have message that command is not found(
[19:31] <Lunar_Lander> thanks ActionParsnip
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> neothecat: try:  sudo dhclient eth0
[19:31] <nathanel__> excott: it errors out sayng it's not a block device
[19:32] <Roasted> curiousx, it looks like this is the closed source driver
[19:32] <Roasted> curiousx, is that true?
[19:32] <neothecat> ActionParsnip, rebooting again...  i will try that soon.  thank you.
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> RobinJ: what make and model system? Do you have a switch to enable or disable it?
[19:33] <escott> nathanel__, my guess its it some weird interaction with how mount is being called because this is a FUSE filesystem. its probably dropping privileges and then calling the mount command, but since the privs are dropped there is no home directory and no secrets file
[19:33] <RobinJ> >.<
[19:33] <curiousx> this is the post: http://paste.ubuntu.com/855730/  i installed it with another user days ago
[19:33] <RobinJ> As far as I can see, no switch. Dell Latitude D620
[19:33] <escott> wormmd, i've been ignoring it, but i'll bet it has something to do with the globalmenu plugin. you might see if disabling global menu makes it disappear, and if so file a bug for nautilus on launchpad
[19:33] <K1rk|Work> I am writing a C++ application for use on Ubuntu client computers, and I would like an easy way to get the hostname of the computer as a String in my script.  Does anyone know of an effective and easy way to do that?
[19:33] <nathanel__> escott: so i should explicit in the conf?
[19:33] <curiousx> yep is the privative downloaded from the ati's home page
[19:34] <nicofs> I want to compile a program and "./configure" complains that "libnautilus-extension" ist missing - but it is installed as "libnautilus-extension1" - how do I solve this?
[19:34] <curiousx> this is the driver: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-12-1-x86.x86_64.run
[19:34] <wormmd> escott, I'll let you know if that works for me, thanks.
[19:34] <llutz> nicofs:  libnautilus-extension-dev   is what you need
[19:35] <dtf> hi! I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid). how do I check if i'm using a KDE or Gnome desktop ?
[19:36] <curiousx> dtf, go to youtube and search for gnome and kde desktops and you can notice that
[19:36] <chipotle> if i connect a cat6 cable between my mac and ubuntu computer, the transfer via sshfs will go much faster than wifi, right?
[19:36] <Trevor69420> chipotle, yes of course
[19:36] <nicofs> llutz, damn... i feared it would be something like that... all those additional files... oO
[19:36] <AllanLinux> oh dear lord...
[19:36] <dad_> after putting music on my ipod touch with banshee, the ipod says there is no music. Then i reconnect, and the mjsic is right there, but still the ipod says no music, please help
[19:37] <dtf> curiousx: will try that
[19:37] <llutz> nicofs: you need all those -dev packages to compile stuff
[19:37] <Trevor69420> chipotle, wifi is slower cuz it shares the bandwidth to all the machines connected to it (it's not a switch)
[19:37] <curiousx> ok
[19:37] <escott> nathanel__, im speculating that naut is dropping privs, because obviously mount is working
[19:37] <nathanel__> ok
[19:38] <AllanLinux> dft If you use Ubuntu is almost certain to use the unity, if you were using would be the kde kubuntu and not ubuntu
[19:38] <chipotle> Trevor69420: but now it lost the connection and can't find it (my ubuntu machine doesn't have wifi, just ethernet....
[19:38] <nicofs> llutz, yes i know - purt parts of me just don't want that to be true...
[19:38] <escott> nathanel__, although i dont get that error
[19:39] <zykotick9> AllanLinux: lucid (10.04) didn't have unity
[19:39] <escott> nathanel__, what is it just a popup from nautilus
[19:39] <nathanel__> ya
[19:39] <Trevor69420> lost what connection chipotle
[19:39] <AllanLinux> Oh really confuse me with 11 ... then it is the gnome 2, thx ;)
[19:39] <escott> nathanel__, odd. and you are using davfs2 correct
[19:39] <nathanel__> escott: correct
[19:40] <escott> K1rk|Work, read /etc/hostname?
[19:40] <nathanel__> the error is from sbin/mount.davfs
[19:40] <curiousx> dtf: alternatively you may want to see these desktops =) http://paste.ubuntu.com/855739/
[19:40] <nathanel__> escott :the error is from sbin/mount.davfs
[19:41] <AllanLinux> Speaking in gnome, kde and unity ... The Unity 5.4 is getting pretty good, despite being a fan of kde 4.8 ;)
[19:42] <K1rk|Work> escott: That's...so obvious. Why didn't I think of that?  Thanks!
[19:42] <nathanel__> escott: does rw,noato,user cause a problem?
[19:42] <nathanel__> noauto*
[19:43] <escott> nathanel__, thats fine its what i have
[19:43] <escott> nathanel__, udisks caches some stuff and you could ask it to drop the cache. that might help
[19:45] <Pikkachu> Pici: I'm trying http://font.ubuntu.com in windows...will check if it works in Ubuntu
[19:45] <nathanel__> escott: blame my ignorance, but how would i do so: never played with udisks
[19:47] <escott> nathanel__, truth is i dont know. this is a bit beyond me. im completely speculating as to causes, but i wouldn't know how to verify
[19:48] <nathanel__> escott: ok. thanks for the help with the debug
[19:48] <nathanel__> i really appreciate it :)
[19:48] <nathanel__> i'll lookaround and see what gives
[19:50] <curiousx> cya all
[19:53] <escott> !ipod | dad_
[19:54] <chipotle> how do i set up a wired network between two computers connected via cat6? the network keeps disconnecting
[19:54] <cool_beans> I am having a problem with Ubuntu - more than half of the times when I turn on my computer, my main "splash screen" where I login etc., is not centred properly on the my screen in the horizontal direction - it wraps around, starting and ending at the centre of my screen, and I can only access the right portion of it with my mouse. So for instance, if I click on the shut down button, the shut down dialog box that pops up wraps around my 
[19:54] <chipotle> i'm trying to use sshfs to access another computer but transfer everything via cat6 for speed purposes
[19:54] <cool_beans> Why is this happening?
[19:54] <cool_beans> It's a real downer :/
[19:54] <cool_beans> I always have to restart multiple times hoping it will load properly on one restart
[19:55] <escott> chipotle, set both to static. set one to 192.168.1.1 the other to 192.168.1.2 and set a route for that subnet
[19:55] <CharminTheMoose> What's the simplest way to edit gconf values inside a dbus-less chroot?
[19:55] <graft> why is firefox associating my jpegs with "wine internet explorer"?
[19:55] <chipotle> escott: where do i set the wired connection to static?
[19:55] <mrmonday-> How do I stop ubuntu from booting into a GUI in 11.10? When it's done booting I want it to drop me at a command line rather than starting a GUI
[19:55] <WiCkD1> hello.
[19:56] <WiCkD1> does anyone here have the ability to modify the masked hostnames on IRC nicks?
[19:56] <AllanLinux> hi
[19:56] <chipotle> escott: ipv4 settings? under method? should i select "Link-Local Only"?
[19:56] <mrmonday-> WiCkD1: try asking again in #freenode
[19:56] <escott> chipotle, in the network manager. network settings -> configure -> ipv4 manual (from automatic dhcp)
[19:56] <graft> mrmonday-: do you want it to goto a virtual console or to an actual shell?
[19:57] <chipotle> escott: yes, link-local worked!!
[19:57] <chipotle> thanks you :)
[19:57] <graft> WiCkD1: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[19:57] <mrmonday-> graft: doesn't matter as long as I'm not launching a GUI (I'll only be accessing via ssh anyway)
[19:57] <escott> mrmonday-, set text in /etc/default/grub and rerun update-grub
[19:58] <escott> cool_beans, how is your monitor connected to the computer (what kind of cable)
[19:58] <graft> mrmonday-: well you could just remove gdm
[19:59] <graft> mrmonday-: yeah what escott said is probably best
[19:59] <graft> anyone know why firefox is trying to open a jpeg with "wine internet explorer"?
[20:00] <graft> it is just infuriating
[20:00] <escott> chipotle, you could tell ssh to not use encryption if you think thats a real issue. it require a bit of fiddling with the sshd.conf
[20:00] <graft> escott: isn't that what telnet is for?
[20:02] <RKyle> Hi, my updates seem to have hung at "Preparing to configure plasma-dataengines-workspace" and I was wondering if I stopped the update and reattempt them after a reboot if it would harm my install.
[20:02] <mrmonday-> graft, escott: literally "set text"? I put that in there, ran update-grub and I still get a GUI
[20:02] <escott> graft, similar but the password exchange is encrypted, only the data blocks are unencrypted
[20:02] <kafeef> hi
[20:02] <graft> escott: ah
[20:02] <escott> mrmonday-, no in the kernel flags where is says splash change it to nosplash text
[20:02] <imanc> I'm working though some security guidlines and apparently I need to install apache 2.2.21 or greater, yet the version that comes via apt-get in 10.4 is 2.2.12.  Is there a way I can grab the latest version from a repo, or would I have to install manuallly?
[20:02] <kafeef> atiyuoip[\
[20:03] <bastidrazor> mrmonday-: cp the line you have that in. its just 'text' and not 'set text'
[20:03] <andrea> ciao
[20:03] <escott> bastidrazor, its my fault i wasnt at all clear on where the text should go.
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[20:04] <Guest73531> ty
[20:04] <FloodBot1> Guest73531: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[20:04] <bastidrazor> escott: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=   on this line.
[20:04] <escott> mrmonday-, ^^^
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[20:04] <AllanLinux> -_-
[20:04] <Guest73531> nxstk4
[20:05] <wolfric> can someone else confirm a bug for me? After enabling universe, try install  chntpw on oneric (or any other release). For me, it installs fine but when i go to run it, it says it's not installed. This doesn't seem to be just me, same thing on backtrack  5 and on a live cd
[20:05] <wolfric> i've tried to locate the binary and it seems it's missing
[20:05] <wolfric> apt-get seems to perfectly install and remove it without any trouble though
[20:05] <Pici> wolfric: its in /usr/sbin/chntpw
[20:05] <neothecat> i was asking questions before about NIC problemsm  i unloaded the reloaded the driver to see what came out of dmesg.  the most interesting line in dmesg is "Refused to change power state, current in D3", ad then it proceeds not to find the MAC...
[20:06] <Shipper> wolftic: look for a log file
[20:06] <mrmonday-> cool beans, thanks for your help everyone :) (the last time I did that was with inittab on another distro which has far fewer wrappers around things ;))
[20:08] <graft> wolfric: you're using sudo, yes?
[20:09] <jsebean> hello all, I am wondering how can I setup a stereo mix to record the sound from my computer along with my microphone at the same time, ill be using audacity
[20:11] <crofty> having problems getting my username and password out of locked sky router here in england
[20:12] <graft> crofty: not really an ubuntu question, but you're probably SOL.
[20:12] <zuloyd> hi
[20:12] <wonderland64bits> hi all
[20:13] <crofty> i am trying to do in it ubuntu not sure where too look can't really find much help it all target windows and small utils that do it for ppl
[20:13] <zuloyd> i have a problem with brasero under ubuntu 10.04. when i insert a raw, fresh CD-R, it would always say that i inserted a raw disk with 5.5 MB of free space.
[20:13] <zuloyd> although it's 700 MB
[20:13] <crofty> SOL??
[20:13] <jsebean> anyone have any ideas?
[20:13] <zuloyd> and the disks are new
[20:14] <escott> crofty, Somewhat Out of Luck
[20:14] <wonderland64bits> anyone knows how to include drivers inside a kernel
[20:14] <wonderland64bits> ??
[20:14] <wonderland64bits> and compile it?
[20:14] <escott> wonderland64bits, generally you dont compile a kernel for ubuntu. why do you need to?
[20:14] <crofty> thx
[20:14] <Guest97399> how do you ensure that the transmission is secured? in windows, I know that VPN can be set up to ensure the security of tranmission, what is the equivalent of VPN for Ubuntu?
[20:14] <graft> crofty: out of luck
[20:15] <gener1c> does anybody know what could cause cups to print out the @pjl instead of the document itself?
[20:15] <jsebean> Guest97399: a vpn :P
[20:15] <Guest97399> jsebean: how do i set it up
[20:15] <escott> !vpn | Guest97399
[20:15] <llutz> gener1c: missing filter, printjob is sent as raw data to the printer
[20:15] <jsebean> hello all, I am wondering how can I setup a stereo mix to record the sound from my computer along with my microphone at the same time, ill be using audacity
[20:15] <escott> Guest97399, there is also secure shell if you don't need everything the vpn provides
[20:16] <wonderland64bits> escott, because i want to make an custom ubuntu for my pc drivers, and also knowledege
[20:16] <Guest97399> that link does not state how to set up VPN for 11.10
[20:16] <wonderland64bits> knowledge i mean
[20:17] <Guest97399> i am traveling oversea and I just want to ensure that everything i transmit is secured
[20:17] <Ho^Oh> escott: So far, installed grub2-pc,      ran the grub update command, at first, it looked like it was going to work, but my server just dont boot at all.
[20:17] <jsebean> Guest97399: Click the network icon in the panel at the top and click Configure VPN under vpn connections
[20:17] <escott> wonderland64bits, well thats generally discouraged. if you just want to learn things install gentoo (and you can do it in virtualbox so as not to mess up your desktop)
[20:17] <kafee786> i want to add something in ubuntu
[20:17] <escott> Ho^Oh, so what happens
[20:18] <Guest97399> jsebean: ok let me try that
[20:18] <kafee786> how can i do it
[20:18] <kafee786> please quide me
[20:19] <jsebean> hello all, I am wondering how can I setup a stereo mix to record the sound from my computer along with my microphone at the same time, ill be using audacity
[20:19] <kafee786> i am a new bees
[20:19] <barnold> Does anyone know why I would have to open the Nvidia X GUI to actually get my xorg.conf settings to activate?
[20:19] <Ho^Oh> escott: The power turn turns on, and  then it just hangs. Nothing happens after that.
[20:19] <escott> Ho^Oh, so you dont get any kind of grub stages
[20:19] <astro5> my laptop was running at 90-95 degrees Celsius. I installed battery-status applet and set it to "normal" instead of "performance" and it drops down to 75 degrees Celsius, which is great. However, every time i reboot it defaults to "performance"...anyone know a way to set it to "normal" by default?
[20:19] <tiziano> u topu u topu
[20:20] <escott> astro5, you can add to rc.local a command to echo "something" /sys/something/something/cpu-freq/governor
[20:20] <Ho^Oh> escott: Oh crap, I just remembered.       I see a grub memu.      (Ubuntu server)        and then Ubuntu server for rescue or something similar. I know in all systems I used, theres always a safemode, or some sort of rescue mode.
[20:20] <tiziano> utopu is a new system
[20:20] <Ho^Oh> I picked Ubuntu server, but that doesn't boot up afterwards.
[20:21] <escott> Ho^Oh, so grub is coming up all the way, but the kernels aren't actually booting
[20:21] <escott> Ho^Oh, can you confirm the kernels and initrds are in /boot
[20:21] <Ho^Oh> escott: Okay.
[20:21] <azertyui> hi
[20:21] <jsebean> !vpn
[20:21] <azertyui> how to mettre en place dydns server ?
[20:22] <gener1c> llutz: how would one go about fixing it?
[20:22] <bastidrazor> azertyui: dyndns.com
[20:23] <_jesse_> \wc
[20:24] <guntbert> azertyui: you install the client
[20:24] <azertyui> you don't get my question
[20:24] <azertyui> how to put in place dydns server such dyndns.com  ?
[20:25] <guntbert> azertyui: maybe #ubuntu-fr can help better?
[20:25] <effigy_> 'ello
[20:25] <azertyui> is my english is bad ?
[20:25] <effigy_> is no is not bad
[20:26] <barnold> It's better than American's French/Spanish/etc. so
[20:26] <barnold> You're doing better than most.
[20:26] <guntbert> azertyui: we thought we answered your question ..
[20:26] <azertyui> ok let me explain well
[20:26] <azertyui> i got ubuntu pc with a domain name
[20:26] <azertyui> ubuntu server
[20:27] <azertyui> i got a dynamic ip
[20:27] <bastidrazor> azertyui: i'm sure you were told yesterday.. ddclient from dyndns.com will keep your ip and host synced
[20:27] <azertyui> and my question is how to put in place a dyndns server such as dyndns.com or noip
[20:28] <azertyui> i don't want to use a third party solution
[20:28] <bastidrazor> azertyui: its straight from dyndns.. that isn't 3rd party
[20:28] <azertyui> i want to own my brand
[20:28] <azertyui> lol
[20:29] <escott> astro5, nothing ever seems to be in the same place anymore but see if any of this matches http://www.pantz.org/software/cpufreq/usingcpufreqonlinux.html
[20:29] <astro5> escott: ok, thanks
[20:29] <oliphant> greetings. how do I portforward port 80 to a private port?
[20:29] <DJones> azertyui: Once you've setup your dyndns account, you need to point your domain name to your dyndns account eg azertyui.dyndns.org (Depends what you create)
[20:30] <azertyui> of course i understand how it works dyndns.org
[20:30] <bastidrazor> astro5: install cpufrequtils and use cpufreq-info and cpufreq-set  to make the changes
[20:30] <DJones> azertyui: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[20:30] <effigy_> I think he's asking how to get his own domain name without using noip or simular hosts
[20:30] <bastidrazor> !portforward | oliphant
[20:30] <azertyui> why we can't own something like that on our server such as apache or mysql server ?
[20:31] <oliphant> kk. thanks
[20:31] <Ho^Oh> escott: It looks like they are there: root@rescue:/boot# ls   abi-3.0.0-12-server   grub   System.map-3.0.0-12-server  vmlinuz-3.0.0-12-server   config-3.0.0-12-server   initrd.img-3.0.0-12-server   vmcoreinfo-3.0.0-12-server
[20:32] <gunfire007> hope that the new version of ubuntu is less bugyg
[20:32] <gunfire007> buggy*
[20:32] <gunfire007> and really awesome to use....
[20:32] <escott> Ho^Oh, i wonder if it could be !nomodeset
[20:33] <effigy_> it's been less buggy once its configured to your hardware
[20:33] <azertyui> i allready got my domain name the problem is simply my server ip change
[20:33] <bastidrazor> azertyui: there is a #ubuntu-server channel that knows just about everything about servers.
[20:33] <escott> Ho^Oh, none of these kernels will boot at all?
[20:33] <Ho^Oh> At least, just the main one that I am mostly concerned of.
[20:33] <azertyui> and my question is simply how to point dynamic server ip address to my domain name
[20:33] <Athanasius> I am dreading a much needed distupgrade
[20:33] <Athanasius> Running squeeze/sid :s
[20:34] <genii-around> azertyui: Check out nsupdate
[20:34] <Ho^Oh> escott: I've NEVER had this problem until I started      "debootstrap install" with  oneric          and for the fact I'm using a 2TB harddrive.
[20:34] <Ho^Oh> I think natty has this problem too.
[20:34] <escott> Ho^Oh, is there some reason why you wanted to bootstrap
[20:34] <Ho^Oh> escott: It's the only way I can do this, I'm working on a remote server.
[20:35] <escott> Ho^Oh, ok
[20:35] <Ho^Oh> No gui easymode for me -.-
[20:35] <escott> Ho^Oh, so how do you know that there is a boot menu then?
[20:38] <`korvin> how can I see my graphics card info?
[20:39] <Ho^Oh> escott: Using an only V-KVM, some java thing that emulates VNC.
[20:39] <Ho^Oh> an Online*
[20:39] <Ho^Oh> But it's not as reliable as we would like it to be. :S
[20:40] <jwmto> i need to update my graphics driver (IMAC with ATI Radeon HD2600 driver)
[20:40] <Ho^Oh> escott: What exactly creates the /boot directory? Installing a kernel right?             I think it's a good idea if I just whipe that out.
[20:40] <jwmto> can anyone help? -- the additional drivers setting seems ineffective
[20:41] <Ho^Oh> I'll backup, and then wipe it.
[20:41] <escott> Ho^Oh, the combination of the kernel install, grub-install update-grub and update-initramfs
[20:42] <nathanel__> escott: still around?
[20:42] <escott> nathanel__, yes
[20:43] <thelegace> does anyone here know how to program with timers
[20:43] <jwmto> all I get is "Sorry, installation of this driver failed.  Please have a look at the log file for details: / var/log/jockey.log"
[20:44] <nathanel__> escott: ok. well it seems the mounts are all functionnal expect 2 things: the mounts that show the error are misinterpreted somehow and show under the "computer" list in nautilus. then.. the other issue is that the mount folders don't seem to stick. i rebooted and they get "deleted"
[20:44] <nathanel__> except*
[20:45] <redramires> hi
[20:46] <escott> nathanel__, i think i know what might be happening
[20:46] <nathanel__> escott: ok
[20:46] <escott> nathanel__, umount everything, and then create the folders as root
[20:46] <escott> nathanel__, make sure you can mount the folders with mount. and then try nautilus.
[20:48] <Shipper> are there any news for ubuntu android?
[20:48] <nathanel__> escott: everything went smooth and everything is in place: mounts are showing with the others on top now.. no residual stuff at the bottom and no empty icons
[20:48] <CFHowlett> Shipper   ask at #ubuntu-phone
[20:48] <nathanel__> but the "Box" icons dont show the eject
[20:48] <nathanel__> on their right
[20:49] <escott> nathanel__, udisks is clearly confused. im not sure how to unconfuse it though
[20:49] <nathanel__> well udisks is usually for block ddevices no
[20:49] <nathanel__> escott: well udisks is usually for block ddevices no
[20:49] <megasoft78> hi all
[20:50] <CFHowlett> megasoft78   greetings
[20:50] <hydrox24> hi all!
[20:50] <hydrox24> Shipper: News as of when?
[20:50] <CFHowlett> hydrox24   greetings
[20:50] <escott> nathanel__, well udisks does more than mount. like udisks would be needed to make the mountpoint suid mount won't do that for you
[20:50] <nathanel__> escott: and even though fstab states rw, i have to chmod to get permissions.. wtf
[20:50] <escott> nathanel__, how did you mount it
[20:50] <megasoft78> how can I have static libpng, libjpeg on Ubuntu 11.10?
[20:50] <Ho^Oh> I wish my host would just offer "real ubuntus" and not a bunch of edited fakebuntus.
[20:51] <megasoft78> I need to link statically my application that use libpng
[20:51] <nathanel__> escott: http://pastebin.com/sXSa4VVG
[20:51] <megasoft78> I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 64bit
[20:51] <escott> nathanel__, you sudo mounted and with users that means that the mounting user got ownership ie root
[20:52] <ssta> megasoft78: you need the -dev package I imagine
[20:52] <escott> nathanel__, sudo umount and the "mount " without sudo
[20:52] <ssta> megasoft78: libpng12-dev probably
[20:52] <megasoft78> escott, I installed and I tried to use -static
[20:52] <dedicated1> hi there, I found this link which shows that at least some options are available under ubuntu. But I have no idea where I can find: Device Drivers > Sound card support > ALSA > PCI sound devices. And also he talks about compiling and that I do not know either :( Anyone that can help me with that? ^_^
[20:52] <nathanel__> ok
[20:52] <megasoft78> and .a file
[20:52] <megasoft78> but it doesn't work
[20:52] <dedicated1> oops: here's the link: http://techgage.com/article/using_the_asus_xonar_essence_stx_under_linux/
[20:53] <escott> dedicated1, what are you trying to do?
[20:53] <dedicated1> I want to make use of my Asus Xonar soundcard
[20:53] <dedicated1> under Ubuntu
[20:54] <nathanel__> escott: same error through terminal for all 3 mounts: [nathanel@Mercury media]$ mount /media/nathanel.titane@gmail.com/Box
[20:54] <nathanel__> /sbin/mount.davfs: / is the home directory of user nobody.
[20:54] <dedicated1> although it's quite a clear guide I cannot find the Device options that he describes nor do I know how to complile
[20:54] <escott> dedicated1, so thats 9.04 are the drivers not in 11.10?
[20:54] <dedicated1> well the sound works
[20:55] <dedicated1> but I miss some crucial options
[20:55] <ruy> esa kalli
[20:56] <escott> nathanel__, i wonder if that @ symbol could be a problem
[20:56] <nathanel__> escott: you think?
[20:56] <nathanel__> let me try
[20:56] <nathanel__> ill remove it and get back to you
[20:57] <escott> nathanel__, so how many touchpads did you buy :)
[20:57] <dedicated1> escott, you think that these option might be already available in 11.10 without me knowing it?
[20:57] <nathanel__> touchpads?
[20:58] <escott> dedicated1, lsmod | grep snd will tell you what drivers you are currently using
[20:58] <nathanel__> escott: touchpads?
[20:58] <escott> nathanel__, the hp touchpad came with a free 50gb on box.net. i thought maybe you bought a bunch of them
[20:58] <nathanel__> no
[20:58] <escott> nathanel__, so why the proliferation of accounts
[20:58] <nathanel__> i use my android. wipe data and register the new acct
[20:58] <adfasdfj> Hey guys, I can't seem to get Ubuntu to print to my network printer.
[20:59] <nathanel__> i have 3 so far
[20:59] <adfasdfj> I found the printer. Added it. And have tested a page, but it always gets stuck.
[20:59] <adfasdfj> I'm afraid it might be a bad print driver or something.
[20:59] <adfasdfj> The printer is a HP PSC 1210, and Ubuntu says it only has drivers for 1200
[20:59] <adfasdfj> I downloaded the 1200 one, hoping it'd work for all the 1200 series (1210 included), but I think it might now.
[20:59] <adfasdfj> *not
[21:00] <micgrob> Hey, how is ubuntu for android phones?
[21:00] <dedicated1> escott, I see ac97_codec, I don't think that's my Asus driver
[21:00] <CFHowlett> micgrob   ask @ #ubuntu-phones
[21:00] <adfasdfj> Does that matter? Seems to submit about "64kb / *** MB" to the print spool each time then freeze.
[21:00] <tbws> is there a way to get apt to tell me WHY it is holding back certain packages when i run upgrade?
[21:00] <jhonatan> hola alguien puede ayudarme
[21:00] <genii-around> !es
[21:00] <escott> !es | jhonatan
[21:01] <hydrox24> adfasdfj: try using the "hp-setup" command, it should already be installed for you
[21:01] <CFHowlett> adfasdfj   did you download the hplip drivers?
[21:01] <jhonatan> sorry never respond.
[21:01] <zykotick9> tbws: just why "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" instead of upgrade
[21:01] <jsebean> hello
[21:01] <hydrox24> jsebean: yo!
[21:02] <jsebean> How do I setup Ubuntu to record both the audio of skype and my microphone?
[21:02] <nathanel__> escott: no the @ symbol wasnt it
[21:02] <nathanel__> my hunch would be with groups
[21:02] <jsebean> On windows I used Stereo Mix and unmuted my microphone
[21:02] <CFHowlett> jsebean   see Skype Call Recorder
[21:02] <escott> dedicated1, then you are using onboard sound most likely. you can check and see if the needed module is in the /lib/modules if not you would have to build your own
[21:03] <Ho^Oh> escott: The rescuemode for the server kernel at least boots,           but the main regular boot isn't working.
[21:03] <jsebean> CFHowlett: I want to do it with a screen recorder
[21:03] <escott> nathanel__, well if you are in plugdev
[21:03] <escott> !nomodeset | Ho^Oh try this
[21:03] <jsebean> CFHowlett: Basically I want to record everything from the PC, including the mic. So all audio
[21:03] <dedicated1> ohh god, I only want to use my soundcard and even that is confusing xD welcome to linux hahaha
[21:03] <adfasdfj> hydrox24: What hp-setup command? Like, just type hp-setup in the terminal?
[21:03] <CFHowlett> jsebean   I know there's a way, but I've never done that set up.  sorry.
[21:03] <hydrox24> Is it safe to remove old kernels using apt-get remove or purge?
[21:03] <jsebean> anybody know?
[21:03] <hydrox24> adfasdfj: yeh
[21:04] <escott> dedicated1, you were the one who bought the exotic hardware
[21:04] <nathanel__> escott: what if i am?
[21:04] <adfasdfj> CFHowlett: I don't believe so. I downloaded the HP PSC 1200 driver when I was detecting/adding my Windows network printer.
[21:04] <hydrox24> adfasdfj: after that it should be easy to follow the "wizard" that pops up
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> dedicated1: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[21:04] <CFHowlett> adfasdfj   see this  http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html?
[21:04] <escott> nathanel__, i dont see what the groups have to do with anything
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> dedicated1: my sound card works out of the box, welcome to Linux
[21:04] <jsebean> How do I setup Ubuntu to record both the audio of programs on my comptuer and my microphone? On windows I used Stereo Mix and unmuted my microphone to do this, how do I do this on Ubuntu?
[21:04] <`korvin> how can I see my graphics card info?
[21:05] <nathanel__> escott: assigning 'nobody' to a shell and fs access while it wouldn't require it?
[21:05] <zykotick9> `korvin: "lspci | grep -i vga" to see the model info
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> `korvin: sudo lshw -C display
[21:05] <dedicated1> ActionParsnip, I need to use that whole command in the terminal I suppose?
[21:05] <escott> nathanel__, so you get this weird message when you try mount /media/natha@gmail.com/Box right
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> dedicated1: yes, then select to upload to the server and a red URL will be made, what is the URL please
[21:06] <nathanel__> escott:  yes.. all three accts
[21:06] <scientes> ouch, linux-libc-dev not multiarch multi-installable
[21:06] <jsebean> How do I setup Ubuntu to record both the audio of programs on my comptuer and my microphone? On windows I used Stereo Mix and unmuted my microphone to do this, how do I do this on Ubuntu?
[21:06] <CFHowlett> jsebean   see http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/record-audio-from-sound-card-or.html
[21:06] <hydrox24> jsebean: I am probably unable to help beyond this: You will most likely end up recording both to a file seperately and then syncing them in audacity ot the likes of it later
[21:07] <hydrox24> jsebean: please don't repeat your Q too much :)
[21:07] <jsebean> hydrox24: there must be a better way then doing all the syncing
[21:07] <CFHowlett> jsebean   pretty sure that skype requires you prioritize either system sound or skype - but not both.
[21:07] <jsebean> CFHowlett: I'll check out the link
[21:08] <escott> nathanel__, so back to stupid questions. where is your secrets file? is it listed in your davfs2.conf file and where is the davfs2.conf file
[21:08] <CFHowlett> jsebean   only workaround I can see is to set up separate recording streams: 1 for skype, 1 for mic...
[21:08] <dedicated1> ActionParsnip, here's the link: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=60fec201a7d23ab62509165a12ca3e53be05baac
[21:08] <nathanel__> escott: i kept the system wide config. it's all in etc
[21:08] <escott> nathanel__, OHHH!!
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> dedicated1: so you are runubuntu in a vmware setup?
[21:08] <escott> nathanel__, so where is the secrets
[21:08] <nathanel__> in etc too
[21:09] <dedicated1> Action, yes I do
[21:09] <nathanel__> /etc/davfs2/
[21:09] <adfasdfj> hydrox24: I don't understand the setup wizard. That is.. I can't detect the printer on my Windows network with it. :(
[21:09] <jsebean> CFHowlett: how do I do that?
[21:09] <Effigy-> What is the best way to play COD or Skyrim in ubuntu 11.10? Do I have to use wine?
[21:09] <escott> nathanel__, /etc/davfs2/secrets is 700 for obvious reasons
[21:10] <nathanel__> so.. should i simply copy therm to home?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Effigy-: wine, or crossoveroffice / cedega (crossover and cedega are not free in any way)
[21:10] <escott> nathanel__, create a ~/.davfs2, and put a davfs2.conf file in there and put your secrets file in there. no need to have a secrets file in /etc
[21:10] <nathanel__> k
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Effigy-: check the appdb for each
[21:10] <Effigy-> great, thanks
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Effigy-: http://news.softpedia.com/news/CrossOver-Games-10-3-0-Fixes-Skyrim-on-Linux-252266.shtml
[21:10] <Guest81400> hello! I have ubuntu 11.10, uninstall unity and install gnome-classic, but now don't have system/preferences menu and can't add icon to panel bar
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Effigy-: mildly interesting
[21:11] <jsebean> CFHowlett, hydrox24: Basically the goal is we want to play minecraft, have other players on a server talking on skype, and record the audio from my computer, the skype chatters and the game sounds (minecraft sounds) itself all at the same time being recorded by the screen recorder. Of at most, in audacity and sync the audio with the video later
[21:11] <CFHowlett> jsebean   sorry, as I said, IDK.  My theory is you'd run one app to capture skype input and another app to capture mic, e.g. skype-call-recorder (or simillar) and Audacity.  Audacity can be set up to capture the system/mic sounds.  NOTE:  theory only.  I've never tested it.  But Audacity is quite adaptable.
[21:11] <escott> nathanel__, if you wanted to have global access to the davfs mounts (ie not just for your main user) you would need to do something weird to get around the users issue, but i doubt the user could ever mount it
[21:11] <Effigy-> fantastic, I'll read. thx for the link
[21:11] <CFHowlett> jsebean   You don't have to do all the recording on the same box, right?  1 box records all skype, other records all mic/system sounds
[21:12] <CFHowlett> jsebean   meet up later to synch audios...
[21:12] <ssta> aren't there skype plugins to do this stuff?
[21:12] <nathanel__> ok
[21:12] <DeltaSaucer> My experience from running a live Ubuntu CD to view a movie with the family: the screen was black and white, the file (from the USB memstick) could not be played even though it was a normal .avi, and Ubuntu made the fans sound like a jet engine.
[21:12] <jsebean> CFHowlett: Well the skype vs other records mic/system sounds isnt the really the problem, thing is i can only get ubuntu to 1. Record my mic only or 2. record skype and all system sounds but not my mic
[21:12] <nathanel__> escott: copied conf and moved secrets to home
[21:13] <nathanel__> still the same
[21:13] <hydrox24> jsebean: if your happy to, then I would first familiarize myself with pulseaudio, with its abilities to change output input devices etc. and then if you are really serious, look into JACK
[21:13] <escott> nathanel__, did you remove the conflicting entries from the /etc/davfs files
[21:13] <nathanel__> ya
[21:13] <nathanel__> it's been removed since 2 hrs ago when you posted your config
[21:13] <escott> nathanel__, and did you update the conf to reference ~/.davfs2/secrets as the secrets file, and are those files properly chmod'ed and chown'ed
[21:13] <CFHowlett> jsebean  how's this...conference call the skype and have another skyper record audio and you record system sounds...
[21:14] <adfasdfj> Bleh. Ubuntu can't print to HP PSC 1210.
[21:14] <adfasdfj> Another thing Ubuntu can't do...
[21:14] <adfasdfj> Later guys
[21:14] <hydrox24> adfasdfj: It should be able to, ubuntu has always had good compatibility with HP
[21:14] <adfasdfj> I've fought with it for a few hours now
[21:14] <CFHowlett> jsebean   there are multiple skype-record utilities available...
[21:14] <hydrox24> adfasdfj: do you have a little more time?
[21:14] <nathanel__> chmod 655 chown nathanel?
[21:15] <adfasdfj> Yes fine
[21:15] <jsebean> hydrox24: I got pulseaudio to sort of do what I want. I can get it to record everything, skype, minecraft, even youtube, but not my microphone
[21:15] <ssta> adfasdfj: prints to my psc 1410 just fine...I can't imagine 1210 is all THAT much different
[21:15] <adfasdfj> Better be a one-liner
[21:15] <nathanel__> escott: chmod 655 chown nathanel?
[21:15] <CFHowlett> jsebean   break up the task between different boxes...
[21:15] <escott> nathanel__, just chown them to nathanel:nathanel and then see what the permission are with ls -l
[21:15] <jsebean> CFHowlett: That's a lot of work lol
[21:15] <escott> nathanel__, 755 for the conf and 700 for the secretes
[21:16] <CFHowlett> jsebean   you sound like a clever guy, I'm sure you can arrange it.  Besides, if you're minecraft multiplayer, you've already got a network going.  Just have someone else record the skype stream.
[21:16] <nathanel__> escott: done
[21:17] <nathanel__> still get the nobody error
[21:17] <jsebean> CFHowlett: I think I can arrange something. If I was privileged to have a real mixing board then I'd be set lol
[21:17] <friedrich> hola
[21:18] <CFHowlett> jsebean   true.  This would be worth a write up or tutorial, so keep notes of your solution...
[21:19] <treshoem> I seem to be stuck at grub rescue prompt after attempting to reinstall windows. I was never able to boot from dvd
[21:19] <nathanel__> escott: i told you it was a user group issue!!! i specified ignore_home nobody and now the error states it to be usbmuxd's property
[21:20] <Jordan_U> treshoem: Did you or did you not run the Windows installer?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> treshoem: change your BIOS to boot DVD and you can boot that
[21:21] <escott> nathanel__, my ignorehome is just kernoops and distccd
[21:21] <nathanel__> im on fedora
[21:22] <treshoem> Jordan_U: I did not . I am attempting to boot from dvd, but the laptop doesnt seem to allow that I am stuck at grub rescue prompt
[21:23] <escott> nathanel__, paste.ubuntu.com/855850
[21:24] <Jordan_U> treshoem: How are you trying to boot from DVD? What DVD are you trying to boot?
[21:24] <bluebomber> Does anyone know how to restrict ALT+TAB to applications in the current workspace?
[21:25] <bastidrazor> bluebomber: 11.10 does this already.
[21:26] <bluebomber> bastidrazor: Oneiric? It doesn't do that for me.
[21:26] <bastidrazor> bluebomber: yes Oneiric.
[21:26] <CFHowlett> treshoem   if you're indeed booting from the u DVD you won't see grub at all...
[21:26] <bluebomber> bastidrazor: I have it installed and can confirm it does NOT do it for me. ALT+` switches between different instances of the same application, and ALT+TAB switches among all open applications.
[21:27] <nathanel__> escott: well ya
[21:27] <nathanel__> basically i needed to specify the ignore_home param
[21:27] <bluebomber> bastidrazor: i.e., ALT-TABing sends my flying from workspace to workspace.
[21:27] <`korvin> hey, what does it mean when a symbolic link is red
[21:27] <yshavit> Is there any sort of trace for rm, which will tell me which files an accidental rm -rf had deleted?
[21:27] <escott> nathanel__, ok probably should file a bug with your upstream then
[21:27] <nathanel__> ya
[21:28] <guntbert> yshavit: no
[21:28] <yeats> `korvin: that it no longer points to a valid file, I believe
[21:28] <yshavit> guntbert: didn't think so. thanks anyway.
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> yshavit: history | grep rm
[21:28] <guntbert> yshavit: :)
[21:28] <`korvin> if I have it pointing to a directory, why would it be invalid?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> yshavit: using force when unecessary is a BAD habit
[21:28] <yshavit> ActionParsnip: I know what the command was....
[21:29] <yshavit> ActionParsnip: I hardly ever do, too. I usually use trash-cli and keep it safe. My mind is elsewhere today.
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> yshavit: if its in an archived folder, you could compare to the backed up data
[21:29] <yeats> `korvin: what does 'ls -l <symlinkname>' show?
[21:30] <yshavit> ActionParsnip: you wouldn't believe it if I told you... :)
[21:30] <`korvin> yeats, the problem was that I was within another sym link =p
[21:30] <guntbert> `korvin: what does ls -ld <your link>    say ?
[21:30] <yeats> `korvin: ah ;-)
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> yshavit: i don't follow you..
[21:31] <yshavit> ActionParsnip: step 1, mvn dependency:tree -Doutput=~/Desktop/file. Step 2, look at Desktop, nothing there. ls, oh haha there's a new ./~/Desktop/file in my mvn project root. The ~ doesn't expand there, silly me.
[21:31] <yshavit> ActionParsnip: Step 3, rm -rf ~
[21:31] <yshavit> Step 3.5: WAIT NO NO NO NO NOT WHAT I MEANT! CTRL-C CTRL-C!!
[21:32] <mydogsnameisrudy> hey
[21:32] <remeses> hi
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> yshavit: oh boy
[21:32] <yshavit> ActionParsnip: and that's what I get for not getting enough sleep.
[21:32] <yshavit> ActionParsnip: I'm not a newbie, I promise! :)  Just sleepy and careless.
[21:33] <Jordan_U> !undelete | yshavit
[21:33] <rypervenche> yshavit: Ouch
[21:33] <yshavit> ubottu: I'll take a look, thanks!
[21:33] <guntbert> yshavit: not to add insult to injury: but thats the dangerous mixture
[21:33] <yshavit> ubottu: I meant to thaanks Jordan_U. See, this is me being sleepy.
[21:33] <rypervenche> yshavit: I think the "I'm not a noob" excuse just died when you messaged a bot :X
[21:34] <Jordan_U> yshavit: I recommend you turn off the computer, get some sleep, and come back to this problem tomorrow :)
[21:34] <yshavit> rypervenche: not at all, it just reinforces the "I'm too tired to think" excuse.
[21:34] <yshavit> Jordan_U: not a bad idea.
[21:34] <yshavit> :)
[21:34] <nathanel__> escott: http://pastebin.com/V9nMdtcE (new popup)
[21:34] <rypervenche> yshavit: I hope you're not on the computer you deleted the stuff from.
[21:35] <rypervenche> yshavit: Get on a live distro right away if you are.
[21:35] <yshavit> rypervenche: why's that?
[21:35] <genii-around> overwriting
[21:35] <rypervenche> yshavit: The more you use the hard disk, the more chance you will overwrite your data.
[21:36] <haux> Ok, xubuntu will no longer load into a GUI. It loads straight to command prompt. When I try to xstart, it errors, saying "no screen found". The only possible cause I can think of is that I can UbuntuTweak earlier, and did a "Janitor" cleanup which erased (what it reffered to as) unneeded configurations/packages. Can anyone think of what specifically might have been deleted and how to resolve this without a reinstall?
[21:36] <haux> *ran
[21:36] <yshavit> rypervenche: meh, at this point I'm not too worried about recovering anything. It didn't run long, and anything important is backed up. I mostly want to see what got deleted so I can know what to recreate.
[21:37]  * CFHowlett *wonders why ubuntutweak isn't in the repos ... oh, right.*
[21:37] <rypervenche> yshavit: If you've got a backup of your home you could diff the two, that's about all I can think of right now.
[21:38] <yshavit> rypervenche: nope. So far, the only symptom is that opening a new terminal tells me how to run a command as administrator.
[21:38] <yshavit> but .bashrc is still there
[21:39] <rypervenche> yshavit: Who knows with which files it started.
[21:39] <yshavit> rypervenche: not I! But I figure I'll find out as things break. ;)
[21:39] <yshavit> rypervenche: like I said, anything important is backed up anyway
[21:39] <rypervenche> yshavit: Good luck.
[21:39] <yshavit> rypervenche: thanks :)
[21:40] <yshavit> rypervenche: maybe I should try (rm -rfv ~) and see if I can detect a pattern in what it deletes. Then I can work backwards to see what it would have deleted before!
[21:40] <yshavit> ;)
[21:41] <rypervenche> yshavit: I believe using an asterisk goes in alphabetical order, but when I've done full directories, I have yet to see a pattern. Probably where the inodes are located or something.
[21:41] <ssta> yshavit: afaik it deletes in the order dictated by the directory structures, which is difficult to predict
[21:42] <yshavit> I was just joking with rm -rfv...
[21:45] <adrian> adriano
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> yshavit: does rm have a simulate option to show what would be deleted?
[21:48] <yshavit> ActionParsnip: not that I can tell
[21:50] <Guest8247> can anybody here help me with a freenas question?
[21:52] <isinglass> Guest8247: probably not since freenas is not ubuntu
[21:53] <gwen_> hi!
[21:53] <CFHowlett> gwen_   greetings
[21:53] <isinglass> Guest8247: try #freenas
[21:56] <Guest8247> thanks anyway  isinglass
[21:56] <xubuntu5> can i have an X application show on two $DISPLAY's at the same time?
[21:57] <roam> Hi kind people i need to know if i can go from gusty to Oneiric Ocelot by update safely? or would it be a dumb thing to do ?
[21:57] <CFHowlett> roam   no.  End of Life
[21:57] <Manu1994> ciao
[21:57] <theadmin> roam: Not likely it's even possible
[21:57] <Manu1994> !list
[21:57] <CFHowlett> !eol|roam
[21:58] <CFHowlett> roam   do a clean install.  If your /home is in it's own partition and not under / (root), you might be able to retain your data.
[21:58] <urfr332gO> roam, install the new OS that jump is not safe even if allowed with a eol upgrade.
[21:59] <roam> ok thank you all
[22:00] <qazokm> does increasing nice values increase priority?
[22:00] <ssta> no, other way around
[22:00] <mun> hi
[22:00] <qazokm> gotcha
[22:00] <barnold> Does anyone know why my xorg.conf won't apply until I open the Nvidia X GUI?
[22:00] <qazokm> thanks
[22:00] <ssta> being less nice means you grab more resources
[22:00] <qazokm> ah
[22:01] <qazokm> is that why its called nice
[22:01] <ssta> basically, yes :)
[22:01] <mun> is there a better way to add local:user to xhost without putting it in .bashrc? if i have it in .bashrc, the terminal always shows a message saying 'non-network local connections being added...'
[22:02] <ssta> mun: add it to bashrc like: xhost +local:user >/dev/null 2>&1
[22:02] <guntbert> mun: why do you want to use xhost?
[22:02] <vinc_> Hi
[22:02] <mun> guntbert, because i have a cronjob that calls su
[22:02] <mithrop> plop here
[22:02] <ssta> mun try using sux instead?
[22:03] <vinc_> I've a question: Is there a way to remap the AltGr key to Ctrl with setxkbmap?
[22:03] <guntbert> mun: a cron job needing a X display??
[22:03] <mun> ssta, what does it do?
[22:03] <mun> guntbert, yes that too.
[22:03] <ssta> mun: same as su, but allows the user to use the originating user's X session
[22:03] <guntbert> ssta: sux doesn't exist on ubuntu
[22:04] <guntbert> mun: in my eyes a terrible idea
[22:04] <mun> guntbert, why's that?
[22:04] <Ububulle> hello, does one of you tried to test a new distrib on a USB key, but even with the Bios setup to boot on a remote drive, the USB key does't load..does it sounds familar to one of you, please?
[22:04] <ssta> guntbert: hmm, I seem to have it available...maybe it was removed afterwards or somethng
[22:05] <guntbert> mun: because cron jobs are essentially not intended for anything interactive - they should just run
[22:05] <mun> guntbert, well my cronjob isn't interactive. it just displays a notification.
[22:06] <CFHowlett> Ububulle   the only time I've had that trouble has been when I was too lazy to md5sum the iso...
[22:06] <mithrop> Ububulle: are you sure your USB key is actually bootable ?
[22:06] <CFHowlett> Ububulle   also, does your computer support usb boot?
[22:06] <guntbert> mun: let it mail that notification ..
[22:06] <ssta> guntbert: I definitely seem to have sux available... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sux/+publishinghistory
[22:06] <mun> guntbert, well it's for monitoring the battery level of my mouse.
[22:08] <guntbert> mun: i see - why must that cronjob run as root?
[22:08] <ssta> guntbert: there's nothing wrong with running an X task in cron.  I might question the value of having it run as a different user's cron...
[22:08] <boink__> hi guys I am trying ro un a function for evey file found
[22:09] <mun> guntbert, because the program i use (revoco) needs root
[22:09] <mun> guntbert, i think it needs root to access hiddev
[22:09] <ssta> boink__: either the execd option to find or pipe the filelist to xargs
[22:09] <boink__> i have a find . -type f etc btu it aint doing anything
[22:09] <ssta> s/execd/exec/
[22:09] <Shaun> anyone have any ideas why all graphical apps appear to enter a state of limbo when I xset dpms force off?
[22:10] <boink__> anyone mind having a look at my sentence and lok for the mistake?
[22:10] <guntbert> mun: well, I obviously don't know enough to help you - sorry for the distraction
[22:10] <Shaun> if I run the command, then wiggle the mouse 3 mins later, the screen comes back on, but irc has disconnected, but only displays it on my return
[22:11] <`korvin> dolphin: could not start process, unable to create io-slafe: klauncher said: unknown protocol 'file'
[22:11] <`korvin> io-slave*
[22:11] <mun> ssta, is there sux for sudo?
[22:12] <ssta> mun: probably better to run the cronjob as a script as you which calls the thing you need, and use gksudo to gain root in the script
[22:12] <boink__> ssta thanks for answering but that is beyond my current knowledge
[22:13] <ssta> mun: also, you'll want to be careful that the script checks whether you're logged in before running
[22:13] <boink__> I have a oneliner that works. So i changed it to run another command but nothing is happening
[22:13] <ssta> boink__: find . -type f | xargs echo
[22:13] <ssta> boink__: what is your oneliner, and what do you want it to do?
[22:13] <boink__> should i copy it here or in PM?
[22:13] <mun> is xhost local:root not a safe thing to do?
[22:14] <boink__> in words , i want to run png2swf [with some args] for every png i find
[22:14] <ssta> boink__: paste.ubuntu.com and paste the url here
[22:14] <boink__> ok
[22:15] <boink__> ssta http://paste.ubuntu.com/855910/
[22:16] <boink__> ssta when I hit enter I get the >  but nothing else happens
[22:16] <go8765> hello. anybody use osmo? i have problems with mackind backup in it..(
[22:16] <serafim> no
[22:18] <ssta> boink__: try it with only one ' after the .png
[22:18] <boink__> already did but same result
[22:19] <theadmin> boink__: find . -type f -iname '*.png' -exec png2swf args '{}' \; # '{}' will get replaced with the filename
[22:19] <boink__> sorry, not same result, i get "missing argument to -exec"
[22:19] <ironhalik> How can I try out Unit2D on LiveCD? When I log out, and select Unity2D from the menu, it logs into Unity3D
[22:19] <boink__> sorry the admin, i didnt follow
[22:20] <boink__> ahh using iname instead of name saves me from using %s ?
[22:20] <theadmin> boink__: For each png it finds, '{}' in the -exec's argument will get replaced with the name of the png
[22:21] <Django_Novice> hi there
[22:21] <Django_Novice> Im trying to install apache2 but it says :The requested URL /ubuntu/pool/main/a/apache2/apache2-utils_2.2.17-1ubuntu1.4_amd64.deb was not found on this server.
[22:21] <Mateusz> hello guys
[22:21] <Mateusz> i have problem with ubuntuone
[22:22] <ironhalik> Django_Novice: try apt-get update? Its what fixed errors like that in other distro I use
[22:22] <CFHowlett> Mateusz   greetings
[22:22] <boink__> thadmin, any idea why the one i have doesnt trigger but stays on > ?
[22:22] <neothecat> anyone seen this error using an r8169 nic card? "uknown MACm using family default"
[22:22] <guntbert> Mateusz: there is #ubuntuone
[22:22] <theadmin> boink__: Did you type it exactly as it is? That \; at the end is important
[22:22] <Django_Novice> ironhalik: ok let me try that
[22:22] <ssta> boink__: because you have an extra ' I think.  The shell is waiting for you to finish the command
[22:22] <Mateusz> ok
[22:22] <Mateusz> thx
[22:23] <boink__> ssta but if i remove the extra ' (first thign i thought) i get a "argument missing to -exec"
[22:24] <boink__> and theadmin , yes, the command ends with  ''; -- {} +
[22:24] <boink__> that being 2 single quotes, not a double
[22:24] <jjgalvez__> gnome-shell started crashing this morning, every-time I try to use the search feature to find a file it crashes
[22:27] <Mateusz__> i'm back
[22:27] <Mateusz__> ubuntuone chanel is empty;/
[22:27] <Mateusz__> i run uubntuone but ubuntuone sso does not appear previously i've got problem with all ubuntuone but i pugre it and reinstall  and now i cant configure my accountu  could you help me?
[22:27] <xiambax> after updating to 12.04 i told my system to reboot. its not rebooting after 10 minutes or so. am i safe to force it?
[22:28] <DropsOfSerenity> a
[22:28] <zykotick9> xiambax: reask in #ubuntu+1
[22:28] <boink__> i ll try the {} syntax
[22:28] <Mateusz__> i run uubntuone but ubuntuone sso does not appear previously i've got problem with all ubuntuone but i pugre it and reinstall  and now i cant configure my accountu  could you help me?
[22:29] <CFHowlett> !patience|amteusz_
[22:29] <floup_> salut
[22:29] <CFHowlett> !fr|flou
[22:29] <DropsOfSerenity> is there any way to change the gradation of the volume slider when I press the volume up button, I have sensitive speakers and would like to raise it  around 2% instead of 5% i'm running ubuntu 12.04
[22:29] <floup_> quelqu'un peut m'aideravec lubuntu svp...
[22:29] <zykotick9> DropsOfSerenity: reask in #ubuntu+1
[22:29] <Mateusz__> ok sorry
[22:29] <CFHowlett> !fr|floup_
[22:30] <boink__> with the {} how do i get just the file name, without the extension so I can turn some.png into  some.swf ?
[22:30] <floup_> can sbdy help mewith lubuntu please
[22:30] <CFHowlett> floup_   ask away
[22:30] <floup_> thanks
[22:30] <ubuntu> Hi
[22:30] <floup_> so
[22:31] <Mateusz__> anybody can help me with ubuntuone?
[22:31] <ch33z> Hello on "Caching Nameserver" Do I use the static ip given from the isp or the DNS servers like "75.75.75.75, 75.75.76.76"
[22:31] <ch33z> ?
[22:31] <floup_> i try to install lubuntu-extras
[22:31] <theadmin> boink__: Not that easy but... $(echo '{}'|sed 's/\.png/\.swf/') should give the basic idea.
[22:31] <floup_> and every time i try, its block at 12% of the first download
[22:32] <floup_> it blocks*
[22:32] <CFHowlett> floup_   "blocks"?  do you get some kind of error message from ubuntu?
[22:32] <haux> xubuntu will no longer start in GUI. It loads directly into command prompt. When I try to startx, it says "screen not found". The only possible thing I remember doing that could have potentially caused this is running UbuntuTweak's "janitor" cleanup that deleted "unneeded" packages/configurations. Does anyone know what specifically could have been deleted and how to resolve this without a reinstall?
[22:33] <ubuntu> Hi, I'm entirely new to Linux/Ubuntu, and I've got a small problem: Whenever I shut down my pc, ubuntu doesn't remember all the programmes I downloaded and my settings etcetera (so I have to keep re-downloading flash and my graphics driver and reset my resolution to 1080p whenever I start my PC), any help or tips?
[22:33] <BigglesPiP> Hello, recently updated my kernel and wol is broken (ethernet card powered off when halt), where are the older kernels kept, I think I was on 3.0.0-9 before?
[22:33] <CFHowlett> haux   if it deleted a critical system file, I'm pretty sure you're looking at reinstalling
[22:33] <floup_> well when i do it with synaptic it gives nothingbut when i try with sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras it says
[22:33] <floup_> 2secs please
[22:34] <haux> CFHowlett, is there no utility that can diagnose the issue?
[22:34] <Mateusz__> wtf
[22:34] <haux> CFHowlett, I presume that Ubuntu Tweak would not remove critical files.
[22:34] <Mateusz__> can anybody helpme
[22:34] <ubuntu> Any help for me? I feel I'm missing out on something really simple
[22:35] <Mateusz__> @ubuntu
[22:35] <CFHowlett> haux   not that I know of but plz ask the channel...  and UT WILL remove packages thus the warning...and a reason why it's not in the official distro.
[22:35] <Salinas-MG> hola puedes me ajudar
[22:35] <Mateusz__> with what u've got problem
[22:35] <ssta> NewUser: did you install or are you running the live cd?  sounds like the live cd to me
[22:35] <Pentan> Mateusz__, what problem do you have?
[22:35] <guntbert> !es | Salinas-MG
[22:35] <CFHowlett> !es|Salinas-MG
[22:35] <ENtirelyNewUser> I installed it, runningon a 80gigs partition
[22:35] <haux> I'll ask again in a minute and see if anyone else responds.
[22:36] <floup_> CFHowlett: well now it seems to work... strange
[22:36] <Mateusz__> i've got problem with ubuntuone sso doesnt appear afrter run ubuntuone
[22:36] <Salinas-MG> gracias
[22:36] <CFHowlett> floup_   have fun/be safe
[22:36] <floup_> CFHowlett: thanx :)
[22:36] <guntbert> haux: I wolud not count  on ubuntu-tweak keeping you safe
[22:37] <Mateusz__> @Pentan i reinstalled all packs but still have a problem with it
[22:37] <ENtirelyNewUser> Is there a setting I have to enable for it to remember what I've done since my first install? Help! :P
[22:37] <aevlkm> bonjour je cherche le serveur lubuntu fr
[22:37] <CFHowlett> haux    were it me, I'd insert the cdrom, temporarily other software sources and run every variation of apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade I could before I'd just reinstall.  Perhaps recovery is possible...
[22:37] <floup_> lubuntu saved my computer :)
[22:37] <CFHowlett> !fr|aevlkm
[22:37] <ssta> ENtirelyNewUser: not usually.  Generally it just works.  I've never heard of having to redownload stuff like that before if it's installed
[22:37] <Mateusz__> and cant find any solution in google
[22:38] <haux> guntbert, I downloaded it to configure file associations, which works fine. But I also ran a couple additional options along with the thumbnail cleanup. which have apparently caused this issue. But I refuse to believe that nobody knows why x  won't load...
[22:38] <pedahzur> Ruby newbie here...I'm trying to build a gem with rake, and getting this: rake aborted!  no such file to load -- hoe  What package/gem am I missing?  The folks on #ruby say I need the 'hoe' gem/package but Ubuntu does not seem to have that.
[22:39] <ENtirelyNewUser> I installed using some client that installed from a .Iso file, if that's any help
[22:39] <haux> CFHowlett, what do you mean every variation? And, I can run apt-get through the command prompt. Like I said, the window manager doesn't load. The command prompt does, with network access. Everything works except x
[22:39] <guntbert> haux: ubuntu-tweak is defintely not supported here - please ask them
[22:39] <ENtirelyNewUser> can't remember the client's name though
[22:40] <CFHowlett> haux  see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/apt-get-question-dist-upgrade-vs-upgrade-219920/
[22:40] <Timmo_> ola ppl
[22:40] <floup_> does somebody know why videos always lag with ubuntu? (10.04 LTS)
[22:41] <CFHowlett> haux   hoping that running that command on the installation cdrom will reinstall any missing packages...
[22:41] <Mateusz__> see u!
[22:41] <CFHowlett> floup_   they don't always lag but if you're seeing this, maybe low ram/gpu/ issues?
[22:41] <CFHowlett> !es|Timmo_
[22:42] <Timmo_> wondering how to create folder in permissioned folder
[22:42] <haux> CFHowlett, I will try that, thanks.
[22:42] <floup_> maybe but it's a quite recent computer and whith windows it didn't (not trying to troll :p)
[22:42] <CFHowlett> haux   perhaps even reinstalling X from the CDROM while in recovery mode?
[22:42] <Timmo_> ;) i cant spannish
[22:42] <ENtirelyNewUser> No help for me here? T.T Guess I'm not shutting down my pc anytime soon then :(
[22:43] <floup_> ENtirelyNewUser: what's your pb already
[22:43] <ENtirelyNewUser> Hi, I'm entirely new to Linux/Ubuntu, and I've got a small problem: Whenever I shut down my pc, ubuntu doesn't remember all the programmes I downloaded and my settings etcetera (so I have to keep re-downloading flash and my graphics driver and reset my resolution to 1080p whenever I start my PC), any help or tips?
[22:44] <ENtirelyNewUser> Im running on a partition
[22:44] <CFHowlett> ENtirelyNewUser   are you running ubuntu via usb/cdrom or did you install it?
[22:44] <ENtirelyNewUser> But I did use some 3rd party client to install ubuntu
[22:44] <CFHowlett> ENtirelyNewUser   *ahem* REALLY?
[22:44] <ENtirelyNewUser> But it's installed on my hdd on some kind of dualboot
[22:45] <bazhang> ENtirelyNewUser, 1080p? what resolution is that. also, is this a wubi install, and how are you installing, ie from what source
[22:45] <ENtirelyNewUser> wubi install?
[22:45] <Timmo_> ok gksudo granting root rights but how to open location with terminal with root rights to create new folder
[22:45] <CFHowlett> ENtirelyNewUser   do you have windows on your computer?
[22:45] <bazhang> ENtirelyNewUser, from within windows
[22:45] <theadmin> Timmo_: sudo -i first, then cd to wherever you need to
[22:45] <ENtirelyNewUser> Well, I installed ubuntu from within windows, yes
[22:45] <Timmo_> thanks
[22:45] <Timmo_> alot
[22:46] <bazhang> ENtirelyNewUser, thats a wubi install
[22:46] <ENtirelyNewUser> okay
[22:46] <Salinas-MG> failed to access var/www
[22:46] <Salinas-MG> help
[22:46] <bazhang> ENtirelyNewUser, where are you installing packages from
[22:46] <floup_> Salinas-MG: when does it happen
[22:46] <ENtirelyNewUser> So I guess I just have to de-install and install the normal way?
[22:47] <ENtirelyNewUser> I'm installing all my programmes from Ubuntu One
[22:47] <ENtirelyNewUser> Or softyware center sorry
[22:47] <bazhang> ENtirelyNewUser, you sure about that? ubuntuone is similar to dropbox
[22:47] <ENtirelyNewUser> *ahem, I'm such a noob at this
[22:48] <ENtirelyNewUser> Software center
[22:48] <ssta> ENtirelyNewUser: yet, your username appears to be ubuntu...are you *sure* you're not running the live distro still?  I know you think you aren't, but it *really* seems to me like you are
[22:48] <uglyoldbob> Where do I find the "testusb" program?
[22:49] <ENtirelyNewUser> How do I kow? I ran the ubuntu installation, and I tried re-installing it, but it told me that I already had it installed, so I'm pretty sure I am
[22:49] <floup_> uglyoldbob: test to run it in a terminal...
[22:49] <ssta> ENtirelyNewUser: from some "third party installer" thingy?
[22:49] <ENtirelyNewUser> Wubinet I think it's called
[22:49] <floup_> uglyoldbob: if not installed: sudo apt-get install testusb -y
[22:49] <Salinas-MG> failed to access var/www
[22:50] <Salinas-MG> when i try to access the folder
[22:50] <Salinas-MG> help
[22:50] <floup_> what folder
[22:50] <floup_> please give a bit of info
[22:50] <Salinas-MG> www
[22:50] <floup_> how are u trying to access it? terminal?
[22:51] <ENtirelyNewUser> Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's wubi, now I looked it up
[22:51] <acidrain> is there any type of con script i can be running to be sure that my connection never drops? and if it does, to reconnect. the network manager doesnt reconnect like i have it set to
[22:51] <acidrain> this is very important actually
[22:51] <ENtirelyNewUser> It was on the official ubuntu website
[22:51] <bazhang> ENtirelyNewUser, was this install done via usb stick?
[22:51] <Salinas-MG> graphic
[22:51] <ENtirelyNewUser> No, I downloaded it and installed it from Windows 7
[22:51] <floup_> okay
[22:51] <uglyoldbob> floup: "E: Couldn't find package testusb"
[22:52] <XuMuK> Salinas-MG: try to access from root
[22:52] <ENtirelyNewUser> But at startup, it loads the OS first and then I get to pick between WIn7 or Ubuntu
[22:52] <uglyoldbob> hmm, maybe its http://www.linux-usb.org/usbtest/testusb.c
[22:53] <floup_> uglyoldbob: try with synaptic then (or download center)
[22:53] <floup_> but on he website, don't u have a link to dl the archive?
[22:54] <ENtirelyNewUser> I guess it's just a bug??
[22:54] <CFHowlett> ENtirelyNewUser   that means you've installed ubuntu via the wubi method - NOT  a long term ubuntu solution, by the way...
[22:54] <ENtirelyNewUser> Oh.. :(
[22:54] <CFHowlett> ENtirelyNewUser   by chance did you md5sum the ubuntu iso before you installed it?
[22:54] <ENtirelyNewUser> md5sum?
[22:55] <CFHowlett> !md5sum|ENtirelyNewUser
[22:55] <ENtirelyNewUser> I just extracted it, and mounted the.iso file (I dont even think that was nessecary\)
[22:55] <CFHowlett> ENtirelyNewUser   downloads do get corrupted - GIGO problems...
[22:55] <boink__> ssta theadmin  i tweaked my one liner . it runs now but it is failing to find the file i pass as a parameter
[22:55] <boink__> care to take a look?
[22:55] <fleurtherock> hi
[22:56] <ENtirelyNewUser> I didn't MD5sum it
[22:56] <fleurtherock> hi all
[22:56] <bazhang> ENtirelyNewUser, you are running on a mounted iso?
[22:56] <CFHowlett> ENtirelyNewUser   I would
[22:56] <CFHowlett> fleurtherock   greetings
[22:56] <ENtirelyNewUser> No I'm not, I installed it from a mounted .iso
[22:56] <bazhang> ENtirelyNewUser, installed it to where
[22:56] <boink__> ssta theadmin : here is the new paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/855946/
[22:57] <fleurtherock> hi CFHowlett
[22:57] <fleurtherock> where are you from?
[22:57] <fleurtherock> your asl
[22:57] <fleurtherock> ?
[22:57] <CFHowlett> fleurtherock   what's teh ubuntu problem?
[22:57] <floup_> i've installed successfuly lubuntu-extras but i still got the "missing plugin" error when i ty to watch a video... do i have to restart my laptop
[22:57] <bazhang> fleurtherock, thats offtopic for this network
[22:57] <CFHowlett> floup_   lubuntu extras do not install dvd capability
[22:57] <ENtirelyNewUser> bazhang, to a partition
[22:57] <fleurtherock> i dont'have problem
[22:58] <bazhang> fleurtherock, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[22:58] <ENtirelyNewUser> I guess I'm MD5summing it then, might take a while, do I have to do a full reinstall if something's wrong?
[22:58] <fleurtherock> bazhang, ok
[22:58] <floup_> yes but it's not a dvd, it's a video on a website...
[22:58] <CFHowlett> ENtirelyNewUser   takes a couple minutes
[22:58] <bazhang> ENtirelyNewUser, how did you extract the iso, using what tool
[22:58] <Timmo_> how to create folder with terminal
[22:58] <Timmo_> ?
[22:58] <Timmo_> :)
[22:58] <R4ndZ> Timmo_ mkdir
[22:59] <boink__> Timmo mkdir somFolder
[22:59] <floup_> i also got the same message for the publicities so i guess it's flash
[22:59] <haux> To give an update on my "no screens found" error... apt-get upgrade / dist-upgrade did not help, but based on the error I received, I uninstalled / re-installed fglrx... this fixed the problem.
[22:59] <bazhang> Timmo_, explain what you are trying to do, and why exactly would you need to
[22:59] <Timmo_> thanks
[22:59] <R4ndZ> mkdir directory .. or mkdir /path/dir
[22:59] <ENtirelyNewUser> Extracted the .zip using winrar zip, and mounted the Iso using PowerIso
[22:59] <ENtirelyNewUser> I installed usiong the wubi thing
[22:59] <ENtirelyNewUser> Okay
[22:59] <CFHowlett> floup_   see this   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[22:59] <floup_> CFHowlett: maybe i have to install something made for chrome too
[23:00] <ENtirelyNewUser> I'm going to my windows partition, MD5summing the .iso file, then I guess I'll be back..
[23:00] <CFHowlett> floup_   see the link I sent ...
[23:00] <floup_> ok
[23:01] <Salinas-MG> un amigo que el pueda ayudar en espanõl
[23:01] <bazhang> Salinas-MG, its english here
[23:01] <Timmo_> ok i need to create folder in /usr/share/monodoc/web/ mdocimages
[23:01] <bazhang> Salinas-MG, #ubuntu-es for spanish
[23:01] <CFHowlett> !es|Salinas-MG
[23:02] <bazhang> Salinas-MG, /join #ubuntu-es  as we have told you several times now
[23:02] <acidrain> is there any type of con script i can be running to be sure that my connection never drops? and if it does, to reconnect. the network manager doesnt reconnect like i have it set to
[23:02] <Guest81081> نتيبنيب
[23:02] <Salinas-MG> muy débil #ubuntu-es
[23:02] <Guest81081> ممممكن عربي
[23:02] <bazhang> Guest81081, english here
[23:02] <floup_> CFHowlett: i went to your link but it's for dvds and my problem is for internet videos
[23:03] <Timmo_> or copy and raname old faolder images
[23:03] <hydrox24> acidrain: sure, just write a script that utilizes ifconfig/iwconfig and then pop it into crontab
[23:03] <acidrain> hydrox24: so you are telling me that i can use ifconfig to automatically reconnect ?
[23:03] <acidrain> its on a wire
[23:04] <Timmo_> at the moment i'm wit root rights now i need to find out how to copy
[23:04] <CFHowlett> floup_   ah.  different issue.  you want to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:06] <flash_> Hello people. I want to be able to save the state of my current workspaces (applications and their layouts) so that it restarts that way every time I log back in. Is there a way to do this?
[23:06] <flash_> Just guide me in the right direction. I'll look up the specifics myself.
[23:06] <floup_> i already did but it still doesn't work. maybe i need to restart
[23:06] <flash_> I'm new to Linux so I don't quite know where to start.
[23:06] <floup_> flash_: yeah i think it's in preferences
[23:07] <StevenX> Hello. I want to start my freenx server on my ubuntu computer by running "sudo start freenx-server"
[23:08] <StevenX> the command seems to go through fine, but then I use "ps -e | grep freenx-server" and the service i not running.
[23:08] <floup_> flash_:preferences>desktop session settings
[23:08] <flash_> Where do I access that? I only have the "Applications" and "Places" menus.
[23:08] <flash_> When clicking my username in the top right, there is also a "System Settings"
[23:08] <floup_> flash_: what's your version
[23:08] <flash_> 11.10
[23:09] <acidrain> has everyone heared obama compare ubuntu 11.10 to the war? a lost cost, its over
[23:09] <floup_> then system settings
[23:10] <hydrox24> acidrain: thanks for that, but please take it up in ubuntu-offtopic
[23:10] <hydrox24> !ot | acidrain
[23:10] <floup_> and you should see desktop session settings (normally)
[23:10] <Timmo_> how to copy in terminal
[23:10] <Timmo_> ?
[23:10] <Timmo_> :)
[23:10] <ikonia> hydrox24: that's not even relevent for offtopic, please don't push people into #ubuntu for their silly rants
[23:10] <acidrain> Timmo_: copy what? tesT?
[23:10] <acidrain> text?*
[23:11] <Timmo_> no folder
[23:11] <Timmo_> :)
[23:11] <floup_> CFHowlett: do i need to install something else?
[23:11] <CFHowlett> floup_   not usually - try it.
[23:11] <acidrain> Timmo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal first google link :)
[23:11] <boink__> timmo cp ./fileToCopy  ./newDstination/
[23:11] <Timmo_> thanks
[23:11] <Timmo_> ;)
[23:11] <flash_> There's nothing like that there, unfortunately.
[23:12] <theadmin> Timmo_: cp -r source dest
[23:12] <flash_> From my googling I've seen that a lot of things are different in 11.10.
[23:12] <theadmin> Timmo_: -r is for folders, without it only files can get copied
[23:12] <floup_> CFHowlett: try what? to restart?
[23:12] <flash_> So I'll just figure out that different way. Just thought someone here would already know.
[23:12] <Timmo_> ok ;)
[23:12] <CFHowlett> floup_   try to view  a video - youtube  or something
[23:13] <floup_> youtube works but not rutube (for example)
[23:13] <floup_> CFHowlett: and lubuntu-restricted-addons is already installed
[23:14] <CFHowlett> floup_   if youtube is working we can trust that flash has installed.  As far as rutube, not sure I'd trust the site.  try vimeo.com
[23:14] <pietro_> Hi. I'm running 11.04 because I don't want to move up to GNOME 3, Unity doesn't work right with enhanced zoom desktop in compiz, and other DEs don't have things I'd like (like no clicking on the laptop trackpad). I have to work with an SDL package that relies on SDL_ttf 2.0.10+, and the latest version available is 2.0.9. I can't remove it either, because it's a dependency of a number of programs I'd rather keep. What should I do? Thanks.
[23:14] <xubuntu5> in ubuntu how do i start skype from the terminal?
[23:15] <theadmin> xubuntu5: skype
[23:16] <floup_> CFHowlett: okay I will
[23:16] <njaxx> xubuntu5: or /usr/bin/skype   (if your path is screwed)
[23:16] <floup_> CFHowlett: internet is sloooow cuz my computer is oooooooooold :P
[23:17] <StevenX> Hi. I'm trying to start my freenx server. I run "sudo start freenx-server" and I get the message "job already running." But I don't see it under "ps -e" and I can't connect to the server.
[23:17] <jc> gnome-shell is crashing every time I use the search box, I've turned off all extensions and it is still crashing please help
[23:17] <danilo> !list
[23:18] <floup_> CFHowlett: okay now another strange thing: youtube doesn't work anymore! it did like 20 minuts ago
[23:18] <CFHowlett> floup_   personally, I'd suspect that russian site, but that's just me...
[23:18] <bs> how can i remap a key so that it does a key combination? like, remap leftarrow so it does Alt-Tab ?
[23:19] <floup_> CFHowlett: lol, in fact youtube worked before i installed lubuntu-extras so maybe there's a problem here... i'll try to reinstall (for the 4th time)
[23:19] <zykotick9> bs: do you honestly not use the arrow keys for anything?  I find that hard to believe.
[23:19] <CFHowlett> floup_   did you confirm that you md5sum checked?
[23:20] <floup_> CFHowlett: ?
[23:20] <adamus> #
[23:20] <bs> zykotick9: the actual situation is I have a RF Remote and I want to make buttons on it do various 2 key combo actions
[23:20] <CFHowlett> floup_   integrity check of your installation media - an essential but frequently neglected step
[23:20] <CFHowlett> !md5sum|floup_
[23:20] <floup_> CFHowlett:Why md5sum? i don't have any probs with my lubuntu install
[23:21] <floup_> it's only with flash
[23:21] <floup_> CFHowlett: And yeah i chacked it already ;)
[23:21] <CFHowlett> floup_   means nothing.  errors can be invisible and the check itself takes 60 seconds.  Just sayin...
[23:21] <JamesMR> Hi, is there a way to reload software sources from a GUI in Precise?
[23:21] <adam__> hi all
[23:21] <adam__> chkconfig telnet on isn't working, any clues?
[23:21] <bs> zykotick9: i figured out how to remap a bunch of the buttons to single key strokes, but i dont know how to make a button that does Alt-LeftArrow , or Alt-Tab, etc
[23:21] <CFHowlett> !precise|jamesmr
[23:21] <zykotick9> JamesMR: reask in #ubuntu+1
[23:21] <adamus> hi
[23:21] <CFHowlett> adamus   greetings
[23:22] <CFHowlett> floup_   vimeo???
[23:22] <JamesMR> zykotick9: thanks
[23:22] <Timmo_> how to raneme in terminal? :))
[23:22] <zykotick9> Timmo_: mv old new
[23:22] <Timmo_> ;)
[23:22] <adamus> an at good point but there is
[23:23] <adamus> telnet
[23:23] <zykotick9> adamus: beside telnet-BBSs, telnet shouldn't be used for anything.  it sends all passwords in clear text.
[23:23] <floup_> CFHowlett;
[23:24] <adamus> hi CFHelwett
[23:24] <adamus> to all
[23:24] <CFHowlett> floup_   vimeo?
[23:24] <CFHowlett> adamus   icu
[23:24] <floup_> CFHowlett: it works at first but then chrome crashes saying "an error occured"
[23:25] <CFHowlett> floup_   try it in firefox...
[23:25] <adamus> telnet showet a clue but may be some
[23:25] <adamus> other person has better
[23:25] <floup_> CFHowlett: it's not installed, i'll do it right now
[23:26] <adamus> with SIP protocol i tried and H32
[23:27] <jakr> perhps this is off topic:  can wget get my ip banned from file sharing sites?
[23:27] <floup_> CFHowlett: (sorry for wasting your time...)
[23:27] <jakr> or does wget not work when a capcha is in place
[23:27] <CFHowlett> floup_   support is not a waste.  NO WORRIES...
[23:27] <adam__> what does ubuntu use instead of xinetd?
[23:27] <adamus> cfhOWLETT its not NOT an error
[23:28] <floup_> #ot | jakr
[23:29] <floup_> oops wanted to try but i failed P
[23:29] <floup_> :P
[23:29] <floup_> ah yeah it's a !
[23:31] <jc> I am running nvidia driver 295 how do I downgrade to 290?
[23:32] <ZyMaster> hey does anyone know how to work ssh on a web server
[23:35] <floup_> CFHowlett: YEAH firefox installed! now i try vimeo
[23:35] <CFHowlett> floup_   dang this IS slow!
[23:36] <floup_> CFHowlett: yeah it is! this computer isolder than me so... no complain
[23:37] <CFHowlett> floup_   so ffox video?
[23:37] <acid_uk> evening all
[23:37] <acid_uk> any one dealt with LACP on 10.04Lts
[23:37] <acid_uk> Im only getting throughput on one nick
[23:38] <acid_uk> maxing out from diffrent mac address to 1gig but nothing near the 2gig accross to nics
[23:38] <floup_> CFHowlett: "OUCH this video can't be played with your current setup please switch to a browser than provides naive H.264 support or install flash player"
[23:38] <cassiopeia_> is there a specific command to run a command line during a certain time?
[23:38] <floup_> :'(
[23:38] <humungulous> cassiopeia_: cron
[23:38] <floup_> cassiopeia: lol
[23:38] <humungulous> cassiopeia_: well, cron or at
[23:39] <CXIV> I made ubuntu install usb and I cannot see files on desktop , only ubuntu installer launcher.
[23:39] <CXIV> How fix that?
[23:39] <floup_> CXIV: then it's a live-cd not an install
[23:39] <CFHowlett> floup_   flashplayer should have installed via "ubuntu-restricted-extras" ...  try sudo apt-get --reinstall intall lubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:39] <CXIV> floup Its made with usb creator , with persistant file.
[23:39] <CFHowlett> floup_   flashplayer should have installed via "ubuntu-restricted-extras" ...  try sudo apt-get --reinstall *install* lubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:40] <floup_> ok
[23:40] <goodyob> I forget, where is the directory that stores your server's index?
[23:40] <floup_> CFHowlett: with the "*" also?
[23:40] <goodyob> I remember it was /www/, but in which directory?
[23:40] <humungulous> goodyob: for a web server, i think you're thinking of /var/www/
[23:40] <floup_> CXIV: try to launch the installer launcher
[23:40] <goodyob> Ah, yes, that's the one! Thank you very much.
[23:40] <CXIV> floup I do not want to install ubuntu -_-
[23:41] <humungulous> np
[23:41] <maglonaut> Hello! Will Compiz Config Settings Manager work on 11.10?  I saw some bad reviews on Ubunut software center.
[23:41] <zzecool> CXIV:  did you had any file and lost after the reboot?
[23:41] <floup_> CXIV: then why did u mke a ubuntu install usb
[23:41] <CXIV>  zzecool No , I want unlock desktop.
[23:41] <CXIV> floup because sometimes I use ubuntu from usb
[23:42] <zzecool> CXIV: what do you mean unlock
[23:42] <zzecool> CXIV: please explain in detail what have you done and what do you want to happen
[23:42] <CXIV> zzecool I mean , I can only see installer launcher.
[23:42] <zzecool> CXIV: i think its the normal what did you expect to see?
[23:42] <CXIV> Even if I copy something on desktop  its invisible.
[23:43] <pietro_> Hi. I'm running 11.04 because I don't want to move up to GNOME 3, Unity doesn't work right with enhanced zoom desktop in compiz, and other DEs don't have things I'd like (like no clicking on the laptop trackpad). I have to work with an SDL package that relies on SDL_ttf 2.0.10+, and the latest version available is 2.0.9. I can't remove it either, because it's a dependency of a number of programs I'd rather keep. What should I do? Thanks.
[23:43] <zzecool> ahh i see
[23:43] <CFHowlett> floup_   install flash plaugin via software center...
[23:43] <zzecool> CXIV: is this happening for every folder?
[23:43] <CXIV> zzecool Yes.
[23:43] <zzecool> or only for desktop
[23:43] <CXIV> No
[23:43] <CXIV> Only for desktop.
[23:44] <zzecool> CXIV: try to access desktop as a folder through nautilus
[23:44] <floup_> CFHowlett: E: l'operation lubuntu-restricted-extras n'est pas valable
[23:44] <urfr332gO> pietro_, you might have to switch to a distro that works with what you need, which is a bummer really.
[23:44] <CXIV> zzecool The same.
[23:44] <zzecool> what does it says ?
[23:45] <zzecool> nothing ?
[23:45] <CFHowlett> floup_   english only - it's been decades since Monsieru LeBleu tried to teach me french...
[23:45] <urfr332gO> pietro_, at some point anyway.
[23:45] <goodyob> Also, is there a settings file where I can change my default network and sound settings?
[23:45] <goodyob> It keeps resetting to the incorrect thing
[23:45] <CXIV> zzecool But when copy the file with the same then it ask me if I want to overwrite.
[23:45] <humungulous> goodyob: /etc/network/interfaces
[23:45] <kantlivelong> can anyone recommend a good cpu burn in tool?
[23:45] <zzecool> CXIV: open up a terminal and try to create a folder on the desktop or copy something there
[23:45] <rypervenche> floup_: Essaye ubuntu-restricted-extras et pas avec le 'l'
[23:45] <CFHowlett> floup_  check your software sources via software center and enable all the repo's.
[23:46] <humungulous> mon dieu
[23:46] <yogione> hi - I am on 8.04 LTS. How do I upgrade to latest version using CLI. thanks.
[23:46] <pietro_> urfr332gO: ok, thanks
[23:46] <humungulous> yogione: there is a howto
[23:46] <CFHowlett> !eol|yogione
[23:46] <acid_uk> hay any of you linux network guys out there
[23:46] <zzecool> CXIV: when you open a terminal what is your username ?
[23:46] <zzecool> CXIV: before the @
[23:46] <CXIV> zzecool ubuntu
[23:46] <acid_uk> LACP issues
[23:46] <CXIV> zzecool Should I made new?
[23:47] <zzecool> no
[23:47] <zzecool> wait
[23:47] <goodyob> Any way to prevent it from hooking up to my neighbor's internet by accident?
[23:47] <CFHowlett> yogione   no direct upgrade as 8.04 is end of life - best best is a clean install
[23:47] <humungulous> yogione: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[23:47] <goodyob> sorry, a bit of an ubuntu noob
[23:47] <zzecool> CXIV: type        cd ~ubuntu
[23:47] <zzecool> cx
[23:47] <CXIV> zzecool I guess live user desktop is locked from editig
[23:47] <CXIV> editing
[23:47] <zzecool> its is
[23:48] <humungulous> 8.04LTS is supported
[23:48] <goodyob> humungulous: How do I edit which network it picks by default?
[23:48] <humungulous> goodyob: thats wireless which is a different place
[23:48] <CFHowlett> !heron
[23:48] <humungulous> read the man for iwconfig
[23:48] <floup_> CFHowlett: i onlyhave Synaptic... I try it right now
[23:49] <floup_> CFHowlett:flash-plugin-nonfree and flash plugin-installer are already installed
[23:49] <zzecool> CXIV: type cd~ubuntu/Desktop
[23:49] <goodyob> humungulous: is there a manual?
[23:49] <zzecool> CXIV: and the do an ls -la
[23:49] <humungulous> man iwconfig
[23:49] <zzecool> CXIV: can you see the files ?
[23:49] <CXIV> zzecool Yes
[23:49] <floup_> rypervenche: ok je vais essayer
[23:49] <CFHowlett> floup_   strange things.  IDK what else to tell you.  Sorry.   Plz ask the channel ...
[23:49] <goodyob> humungulous: ta
[23:50] <zzecool> CXIV: ok
[23:50] <zzecool> CXIV: wait
[23:50] <floup_> CFHowlett: it's okay, thanks for your support :)
[23:51] <CXIV>  zzecool OK
[23:51] <zzecool> CXIV: somthing is wrong with your installation - usb
[23:51] <zzecool> CXIV:  follow this tutorial https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[23:51] <zzecool> CXIV: good luck :)
[23:52] <mun> hi
[23:53] <mun> is there a good way to swap the filenames of 2 files?
[23:53] <colby> i installed 11.10 and everything worked. after installing all 382 updates, i rebooted and now i only get the grub> prompt. how do i fix this?
[23:53] <humungulous> mun: rename one "crap", rename the second one to the first one, rename "crap" to the second one
[23:53] <CXIV>  zzecool md5 is fine , I checked other usb , and its the same
[23:53] <antonio_> ciao
[23:53] <mun> humungulous, yes, but is there a more robust way that that
[23:53] <antonio_> !list
[23:53] <zzecool> CXIV: follow the tutorial read all the page
[23:54] <humungulous> mun: not that ive ever taken the time to figure out
[23:54] <zzecool> humungulous: im full metal i will kill you !
[23:54] <CXIV>  zzecool I I followed :D
[23:54] <staniki> hey guys quick and random problem wondering if anyone has run accross it, but my PC won't suspend the screen locks but the pc doesn;t actually go into suspend mode using 11.10
[23:54] <zzecool> CXIV:  :D
[23:54] <humungulous> i dont get it
[23:55] <zzecool> humungulous: Full metal alchemist   was hunting humungulous
[23:55] <humungulous> oh, figured
[23:55] <zzecool> humungulous: its an Anime Series
[23:55] <colby> i installed 11.10 and everything worked. after installing all 382 updates, i rebooted and now i only get the grub> prompt. how do i fix this?
[23:55] <humungulous> ya i know it
[23:55] <zzecool> ;p
[23:55] <humungulous> tell you the truth i misspelled the name of the bad guy leader from mad max 2 road warrior
[23:55] <zzecool> colby: reinstall
[23:56] <pietro_> colby: something in your GRUB configuration messed uo
[23:56] <Chipzzz> colby: what have you tried so far?
[23:57] <colby> nothing...i'm a convert from ms and not sure how to do much. i've googled the problem, but none of the solutions give me answers i can follow
[23:57] <Chipzzz> colby: when grub comes up, do any of the menu selections work?
[23:58] <colby> there are no menu selections, just "grub>
[23:58] <humungulous> colby: when you installed the updates did they succeed normally and return you to a prompt from which you then rebooted? or did you interrupt something abruptly
[23:58] <Chipzzz> ah...
[23:58] <colby> no, everything with the updates went smoothly
[23:58] <jocker69> hi all
[23:58] <CFHowlett> jocker69   greetigns
[23:59] <mdsn> m
[23:59] <mdsn> hi
[23:59] <humungulous> colby: it should be recoverable
[23:59]  * CFHowlett headslap
[23:59] <mdsn> can somebody help me, its my first time i've instaled ubuntu
[23:59] <CFHowlett> mdsn   ask away
[23:59] <humungulous> yes just ask your question