| === ailo is now known as _ailo | ||
| Len-1204 | Yup todays iso is not real usable. lightdm does seem to be there, but I never get x anything. | 00:18 |
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| Len-1204 | The logo with the spinning band for a bit then nothing. I can get console, and can see the lightdm files in /usr/lib/lightdm. Don't know what else is missing though. | 00:21 |
| Len-1204 | Tomorrow is another day. | 00:21 |
| scott-upstairs | micahg, before i do stuff that isn't necessary, should i be taking out Depends: lightdm-gtk-greeter on any packages? | 02:14 |
| micahg | no | 02:14 |
| scott-upstairs | micahg, okay, here is what i have done: | 02:22 |
| scott-upstairs | 1. replaced 'ubuntustudio-icon-theme' in the seeds with 'xubuntu-icon-theme' and gave it a comment | 02:22 |
| scott-upstairs | 2. added /usr/share/pixmaps to the ubuntustudio-menu package and modified the install file for /usr/share/pixmaps | 02:23 |
| scott-upstairs | 3. added Depends: ubuntustudio-default-settings to ubuntustudio-menu because -default-settings is where it sets the applications menu icon | 02:23 |
| scott-upstairs | 02:23 | |
| scott-upstairs | i feel a little dirty about #3 though | 02:23 |
| scott-upstairs | .. | 02:23 |
| scott-upstairs | oh, i haven't pushed to bzr yet thought, i wanted your confirmation i didn't forget something or do something stupid first | 02:24 |
| scott-upstairs | .. | 02:24 |
| micahg | scott-upstairs: if you feel that ubuntustudio-menu is part of the overall Ubuntustudio settings and *required* for the US experience, Depends is appropriate | 02:26 |
| scott-upstairs | micahg, i do, but it just seems disproportionately inelegant | 02:29 |
| micahg | why? | 02:29 |
| scott-upstairs | it just seems disproportionate to force the installation of the -default-settings package, and all it entails, just to set the applications menu icon | 02:30 |
| scott-upstairs | it's a minor issue to me, really | 02:30 |
| micahg | oh, haha, I read that backwards :) | 02:30 |
| scott-upstairs | :) | 02:31 |
| scott-upstairs | micahg, but if you do not think i need to do anything else at this point i will push to bzr | 02:31 |
| micahg | yeah, that's not right | 02:31 |
| scott-upstairs | okay | 02:31 |
| scott-upstairs | so have -default-settings depend on -menu? | 02:31 |
| micahg | no | 02:31 |
| scott-upstairs | i just worry that if someone were to install ubuntustudio-menu then they would be without the proper menu icon | 02:31 |
| micahg | I'd suggest shipping the icon and configuration together in either package | 02:33 |
| micahg | since this is more about branding, maybe in default-settings | 02:33 |
| micahg | AIUI, the menu package is just extra enhancements | 02:34 |
| scott-upstairs | micahg, it currently is in the -default-settings package | 02:36 |
| scott-upstairs | so i'll remove the Depends: ubuntustudio-default-settings from ubuntustudio-menu package | 02:36 |
| scott-upstairs | and i'll add the /usr/share/pixmaps into -default-settings as well | 02:38 |
| scott-upstairs | micahg, after i complete this should i commit and push? | 02:39 |
| micahg | yes, please | 02:39 |
| micahg | oh, I see what you're saying, I think ubuntustudio-desktop should depend on ubuntustudio-default-settings | 02:40 |
| micahg | that's where you force the branding | 02:40 |
| scott-upstairs | no, i don't think that was what i was saying | 02:40 |
| scott-upstairs | in bzr right now... | 02:41 |
| scott-upstairs | 1. -default-settings sets the application menu icon | 02:41 |
| scott-upstairs | 2. nothing currently has the /usr/share/pixmaps directory | 02:41 |
| scott-upstairs | 02:41 | |
| scott-upstairs | i thought "why put the application menu logo in default-settings? it really should be part of the -menu" | 02:42 |
| scott-upstairs | but then if someone installs just ubuntustudio-menu then the icon maybe be copied to their computer but not set properly | 02:42 |
| scott-upstairs | 02:42 | |
| scott-upstairs | that is why i thought of settings the -menu package to depend on -default-settings | 02:42 |
| scott-upstairs | it just seemed very, very heavy handed to force all the settings from -default-settings to set the application menu icon properly | 02:43 |
| micahg | !info ubuntustudio-menu | 02:43 |
| ubottu | ubuntustudio-menu (source: ubuntustudio-menu): Menu for Ubuntu Studio. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15 (oneiric), package size 6 kB, installed size 120 kB | 02:43 |
| scott-upstairs | !info scott-upstairs | 02:44 |
| ubottu | Package scott-upstairs does not exist in oneiric | 02:44 |
| scott-upstairs | lol | 02:44 |
| micahg | meh, I wanted the long descriptions | 02:44 |
| micahg | Installs a menu for Ubuntu Studio's use case. These menu has new audio | 02:44 |
| micahg | production and video production subsections for Sound & Video section. | 02:44 |
| scott-upstairs | Description: Menu for Ubuntu Studio | 02:44 |
| scott-upstairs | Installs a menu for Ubuntu Studio's use case. These menu has new audio | 02:44 |
| scott-upstairs | production and video production subsections for Sound & Video section. | 02:44 |
| scott-upstairs | oh, hehe | 02:44 |
| scott-upstairs | you know? i'm tempted to just put it all (including the -menu stuff) into -default-settings just like xubuntu does | 02:45 |
| micahg | fine with me, less source packages = less things to upload :) | 02:46 |
| scott-upstairs | you want me to do that now? i can and fairly quickly i think | 02:46 |
| scott-upstairs | or we can wait | 02:47 |
| micahg | sure, just add a conflicts/replaces on the -menu package for -default-settings (conflicts since we're removing the package, not moving files) | 02:47 |
| scott-upstairs | okay | 02:47 |
| micahg | and remove it from the seed as well | 02:48 |
| scott-upstairs | right | 02:48 |
| scott-upstairs | i also see that the -menu package is currently depending on gnome-menus, i thought i saw some traffic that says we shouldn't do that? | 02:49 |
| micahg | do you need something in gnome-menus? | 02:50 |
| micahg | yeah, you don't need that anymore now that you're using Xfce | 02:50 |
| scott-upstairs | we might have at one time, but i don't know that we do anymore | 02:51 |
| scott-upstairs | okay, i will not add that to the -default-settings control file then | 02:51 |
| Len-1204 | scott-upstairs, doing the menu as xubuntu does would be nice. The do not expect their menu to be used with anything else but xfce. | 02:56 |
| scott-upstairs | Len-1204, i'm not sure how our menu should be different, i'm not really very versed at menu stuff, i just look at what is done and hack it to work usually | 02:57 |
| Len-1204 | scott-upstairs, we have a stock menu with two patches on it. Xubuntu has a new menu from scratch. | 02:59 |
| scott-upstairs | Len-1204, that certainly seems easier, how about we tackle this together when we restructure the menu? | 03:00 |
| scott-upstairs | okay, micahg, here is what i have done... | 03:03 |
| scott-upstairs | [seeds] | 03:03 |
| scott-upstairs | 1. replaced ubuntustudio-icon-theme with xubuntu-icon-theme | 03:03 |
| scott-upstairs | 2. removed ubuntustudio-menu | 03:03 |
| scott-upstairs | [-default-settings] | 03:03 |
| scott-upstairs | 3. added menu files | 03:03 |
| scott-upstairs | 4. modificed default-settings.isntall for menu files | 03:03 |
| scott-upstairs | 5. added Conflicts/Replaces: ubuntustudio-menu | 03:04 |
| scott-upstairs | 6. removed Recommends: gnome-menus | 03:04 |
| scott-upstairs | 03:04 | |
| scott-upstairs | does that sound correct? should i add, commit, push? | 03:04 |
| * micahg wonders if 6 was an action or lack of one | 03:07 | |
| micahg | but yes, sounds right | 03:07 |
| scott-upstairs | when i was adding the Conflicts/Replaces: ubuntustudio-menu i noticed that the -default-settings control file also said Recommend: gnome-menus | 03:11 |
| micahg | ah, ok, sounds good | 03:11 |
| scott-upstairs | micahg, seeds (rev. 1309) and -default-settings (rev. 95) pushed | 03:24 |
| scott-upstairs | sorry for the delay, wife got home from work and kids kept interrupting | 03:25 |
| micahg | scott-upstairs: sure, no rush, I've still got to have dinner before I tackle this stuff | 03:26 |
| micahg | scott-upstairs: BTW, it's better to do 1 commit per change, so removing ubuntustudio-menu should've been a separate commit from the icon change (it's good to bzr diff before committing to be sure that you've described the change properly) | 03:39 |
| ScottL | micahg, i had forgotten, i'm sorry, however, i believe i shall remember next time | 03:59 |
| micahg | ScottL: no worries, thanks | 04:00 |
| micahg | as soon as I get webkit building, I'll upload these | 04:01 |
| micahg | ScottL: FYI, Provides requires a comma separated package list like the other fields | 06:19 |
| * micahg fixes | 06:20 | |
| micahg | ugh, now I don't know what to do about copyright... | 07:11 |
| micahg | ScottL: I'm not really happy with the lightdm theme (maintainer scripts) or default-settings (debian/copyright) branches ATM, I made quite a few fixes to the default-settings branch, they're both only missing a thing or 2, but I'm too tired ATM to get this right | 09:14 |
| === shnatsel is now known as shnatsel|gprs | ||
| len | Todays iso still looks small.. | 21:00 |
| len | scott-work: I am guessing it is still not ready to be tried. | 21:01 |
| micahg | len: sorry, that's my fault, I wasn't able to get the packages uploaded last night | 21:05 |
| len | No worries. Sleep is more important than this. | 21:07 |
| micahg | I'll get it sorted over the weekend so there's a beta candidate on monday | 21:07 |
| len | Are the missing apps being included at this time? | 21:07 |
| micahg | missing apps? well, currently, there's no ubuntustudio-desktop, default-settings, or lightdm-theeme | 21:09 |
| len | Ja, I tried yesterdays iso... no gui, just console. | 21:09 |
| micahg | ScottL: one thing I need from you is copyright information | 21:09 |
| micahg | len: same thing yesterday, these binaries were removed from precise accidentally | 21:10 |
| micahg | ScottL: we need to know the copyright of the images you added to the default settings package | 21:10 |
| len | micahg, I figured something like from the irc logs. | 21:10 |
| micahg | I debated doing a no change rebuild of the old versions, but as it was already broke, I didn't see the point | 21:11 |
| len | It would be nice to combine the settings and theming as xubuntu has. | 21:12 |
| micahg | yeah, we did a little package consolidation with menu moving into default settings (we need to update the copyright for that stuff as well) | 21:14 |
| len | Scott was asking for help redoing the menus... so I will take the changes and put them into one file instead of three. | 21:15 |
| micahg | well, for beta 1, let's just get everything working, them we can go back to consolidating :) | 21:18 |
| len | Oh yes. I just make the files, Scott adds them or not as he likes. | 21:19 |
| CFHowlett | themes? I maintain that this has strong potential as the default wallpaper... http://shitsukesen.deviantart.com/art/Fake-Ubuntu-Studio-Screen-shot-173257515 | 21:41 |
| CFHowlett | or perhaps this one http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/unusual/beautiful-ubuntu-ray-traced-wallpapers | 21:49 |
| holstein | http://parker1.co.uk/eternity/screenshots/eternalstudio.png is my fav so far | 21:53 |
| holstein | i think the etched ones are knd of dry | 21:53 |
| holstein | kind* | 21:53 |
| holstein | i feel like thats where the desktop is headed though... with the faded out no color icons we are getting | 21:54 |
| holstein | i installed crunchbang and the icons in the try are the old-school ones with color | 21:54 |
| holstein | i like it :) | 21:54 |
| len | I'm not too picky, they are all better than I can do. | 21:54 |
| len | I would like a bit more contrast in the theme though. | 21:55 |
| holstein | yeah, at least more contrast | 21:55 |
| len | I find it hard to figure out which window I am typing into... | 21:56 |
| CFHowlett | holstein fyi, I updated the logo... | 21:59 |
| CFHowlett | http://spreadubuntu.org/files/Branded-eternalstudio-wide.png | 22:00 |
| len | It looks a bit cleaner. | 22:01 |
| CFHowlett | I'd also submit these for consideration https://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/OfficialOneiric | 22:03 |
| CFHowlett | love that etched metal look! | 22:03 |
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| === shnatsel is now known as shnatsel|gprs | ||
| scott-work | micahg: i will get it tonight, hopefully shortlly after getting home i'll be leaving in moments) | 22:38 |
| scott-work | micahg: interestingly, these are wallpapers that we have been using already, so it might be that we didn't have copyright file in the previous package :/ | 22:39 |
| scott-work | micahg: also, this has me wondering if i am including them in the default package then why do we also need a ubuntustudio-wallpaper package? | 22:39 |
| scott-work | the last question is probably something stupidly simple and i'm too brain dead from work to realize it | 22:40 |
| scott-work | at the moment | 22:40 |
| scott-work | hold on, which images did i put into default-settings? wasn't that the icon images? | 22:42 |
| scott-work | not the wallpapers? why the hell was i thinking it was wallpapers? | 22:42 |
| scott-work | *shrug* going home, i'll suss it out there where i can really look at stuff and drop/leave the work stuff in my head at work | 22:43 |
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