[00:00] <iceroot> wxl: its not affected
[00:00] <wxl> iceroot: that's what i find too oddly
[00:00] <iceroot> wxl: its using the default lubuntu gtk theme without this black bug
[00:00] <iceroot> i will post that on the bug and then go sleeping
[00:01] <wxl> k nite
[00:01] <CXIV> I made lubuntu on usb by usb creator and I cannot see my copied files on desktop
[00:01] <CXIV> ls shows them on desktop
[00:01] <CXIV> But they are invisible
[00:01] <CXIV> How fix that?
[00:02] <iceroot> CXIV: you are using an english system?
[00:02] <CXIV> Yes
[00:02] <iceroot> CXIV: because "desktop" is translated
[00:02] <iceroot> ok
[00:03] <iceroot> i have ~/desktop and ~/Arbeitsfläche and only ~/Arbeitsfläche is shown, everything in ~/desktop is ignored
[00:03] <CXIV> Its lubuntu with persistant save
[00:03] <iceroot> CXIV: do the files start with "."?
[00:03] <CXIV> So should I made new user?
[00:03] <iceroot> CXIV: are they readable by the current login user?
[00:04] <CXIV> Yes , they are.
[00:04] <CXIV> And I copied some folders there.
[00:04] <iceroot> CXIV: plese paste the output of "ls -all ~/desktop" and "whoami"
[00:04] <CXIV> ls shows them
[00:04] <iceroot> !paste | CXIV
[00:05] <CXIV> http://paste.ubuntu.com/856007/
[00:05] <CXIV> Its desktop
[00:06] <CXIV> It seems that live user desktop is locked.
[00:07] <Unit193> Mine uses ~/Desktop rather than ~/desktop
[00:07] <CXIV> I will make new user
[00:07] <iceroot> CXIV: do you have desktop and Desktop?
[00:07] <iceroot> in ~
[00:07] <CXIV> Desktop
[00:07] <iceroot> CXIV: ls -all ~/Desktop
[00:08] <CXIV> I pasted it :D
[00:08] <iceroot> Desktop != desktop
[00:08] <iceroot> so you changed it already?
[00:08] <CXIV> Sorry
[00:08] <CXIV> I forget about case sensitive thing
[00:09] <CXIV> Its ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$
[00:09] <CXIV> I haven't change anything
[00:09] <CXIV> brb
[00:09] <iceroot> CXIV: so when you put smething in ~/Desktop its there?
[00:14] <CXIV> I made new user.
[00:14] <CXIV> And i logged in again into live user.
[00:14] <CXIV> And now I can see folders.
[00:15] <CXIV> I will reboot now.
[01:43] <ignoredthoughts> lubuntu is AWESOME
[02:26] <Celltech> How do I change the clock to american time?
[02:27] <Celltech> Clock Format %R What's it for 12hr time?
[02:28] <phillw> Celltech: give me one mo
[02:28] <Celltech> Ok
[02:29] <phillw> I thought you asked a different Q.
[02:29] <phillw> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_have_an_English_desktop_and_I_want_calendar_week_to_start_from_Monday_instead_of_Sunday
[02:29] <phillw> does the setting of the day of the week, I'll go get the time version for you.
[02:30] <Celltech> Got it.
[02:30] <Celltech> Lowercase r
[02:30] <Celltech> Does lubuntu need restricted extras?
[02:31] <phillw> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/CustomizingTheClock
[02:33] <phillw> Celltech: only if you want to access the stuff not freely under licence, it can be added via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#Playing_Restricted_Formats I'll let you guess which link to click on :)
[02:34] <Celltech> I just changed the clock. Now I'm wondering about restricted extras. Do I just instal the standard ubuntu ones?
[02:35] <phillw> Celltech: if you are running lubuntu... I'd suggest the lubuntu link?
[02:35] <Celltech> Where's that at ?
[02:36] <phillw> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#Playing_Restricted_Formats
[02:36] <phillw> Celltech: ^^
[02:36] <Celltech> Thank you
[02:36] <phillw> all 4 flavours are listed
[02:37] <Celltech> Link only opens chrome. Doesn't do anything
[02:38] <Unit193> apt:lubuntu-restricted-extras?section=universe?section=multiverse This link does? If so, odd...
[02:38] <Unit193> `sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras`  at any rate
[02:40] <Celltech> That's better. Thank you again
[02:40] <phillw> Celltech: chromium should just ask for permission
[02:41] <phillw> if you say "yes" than it should get on and do it?
[02:41] <Celltech> It's installing.
[02:44] <phillw> Celltech: sudo apt get will do anything, just checking as to why the posted link does not.
[02:45] <Celltech> I'm still learning the sudo apt-get thing
[02:45] <Celltech> I just switched from Ubuntu, to Xubuntu, Just now to Lubuntu
[02:45] <Celltech> in a week
[04:09] <rawfodog> Does lubuntu run in seamless mode via virtualbox ? Do the additions work with it ?
[04:09] <rawfodog> Ive only tried a real install
[04:22] <phillw> rawfodog: I ran lubuntu in VB, it behaves perfectly, as would be expected from one of the ubuntu family. As to alpha's and beta's, well they are supposed to mis behave... that's why we have VB's :)
[04:24] <phillw> rawfodog: just make sure you add the 'additions' to each VB and not to the core, as ubuntu has KVM in the core and they will not work together.
[04:24] <phillw> you can remove kvm from the core if you wish.
[04:25] <rawfodog> thanks phillw
[04:25] <rawfodog> How do I specify that ? Won't running ./VBox___etc work ?
[04:29] <phillw> rawfodog: I use
[04:30] <phillw> used vbox from synaptics, then you get the newer version
[04:31] <phillw> rawfodog: pop over to #lubuntu-offtopic
[07:20] <rawfodog> so I cant get lubuntu guest additions working
[07:36] <rawfodog> apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:36] <rawfodog> that worked
[07:36] <rawfodog> thanks lubuntu room
[09:50] <answerNOW> anyone here???!!!
[09:51] <answerNOW> Asnwer me now!!
[09:51] <answerNOW> HEy
[09:51] <answerNOW> which one should I get? Windows (zip) ~8MBWindows (exe) ~8MBUbuntu PPALinux (tgz, 32/64-bit) ~12MBMac OS X ~6MBor get the source code (GitHub
[09:51] <answerNOW> Which one?
[09:51] <answerNOW> which one?
[09:51] <Myrtti> huh?
[09:51] <Myrtti> what are you even talking about
[09:51] <answerNOW> which should I download for bitcoins
[09:52] <answerNOW> I'm trying to instal bitcoins
[09:52] <Myrtti> first of all, you need more patience
[09:52] <answerNOW> Windows (zip) ~8MBWindows (exe) ~8MB or Ubuntu PPALinux (tgz, 32/64-bit) ~12MB or Mac OS X ~6MBor get the source code (GitHub
[09:53] <Myrtti> answerNOW: well what do you think you should get?
[09:53] <answerNOW> sorry
[09:53] <answerNOW> whether ubuntu or PPA Linux
[09:53] <answerNOW> or get source code?
[09:53] <answerNOW> Windows (zip) ~8MBWindows (exe) ~8MB  or   Ubuntu   or   PPALinux (tgz, 32/64-bit) ~12MB  or  Mac OS X ~6MBor get the source code (GitHub
[09:54] <Myrtti> heyheyhey, we saw that on the first try
[09:54] <answerNOW> windows, ubuntu, PPA Linux or Mac OS
[09:54] <Myrtti> and are you sure it's Ubuntu OR PPA Linux?
[09:54] <answerNOW> so which one?
[09:54] <answerNOW> yes! two links!
[09:54] <answerNOW> one for ubuntu
[09:54] <answerNOW> another for PPA Linux
[09:55] <Myrtti> I'm looking at the website now, and it looks like it
[09:55] <Myrtti> s Ubuntu PPA *OR* Linux
[09:55] <answerNOW> k whatever but which one should I choose?
[09:55] <answerNOW> I'm using lubuntu oneric
[09:56] <answerNOW> 11.10
[09:56] <answerNOW> which one?
[09:56] <answerNOW> which one?
[09:56] <Myrtti> patience!
[09:58] <Myrtti> I could give you a quick answer so you'd stop asking, but I'm in the mood of showing you how to make the decision yourself in the future
[09:58] <Myrtti> so
[09:58] <answerNOW> so?
[09:58] <answerNOW> you're slow
[09:59] <answerNOW> very slow
[09:59] <Myrtti> and you really need more patience
[09:59] <answerNOW> I'm going to die!
[09:59] <answerNOW> but I dunno when
[09:59] <answerNOW> all human die
[09:59] <iceroot> answerNOW: i told you some days ago to leave this channel please
[09:59] <answerNOW> no no no
[10:00] <answerNOW> That's harsh
[10:00] <answerNOW> and not fair
[10:00] <Myrtti> if I tell you that most, if not all packages that are labeled as "Ubuntu packages", work in Lubuntu, would you be able to make an educated decision which one you should use?
[10:00] <iceroot> !guidelines | answerNOW
[10:01] <Myrtti> don't even let me start by telling you what's not fair and what is harsh.
[10:01] <answerNOW> what have I done, iceroot?
[10:01] <iceroot> answerNOW: you called people stupid the last time and so on
[10:02] <Myrtti> answerNOW: so, which link should you pick based on that information?
[10:02] <answerNOW> ubuntu but I dunnow which one I should pick now
[10:02] <answerNOW> iceroot, you don't have proof!
[10:02] <Myrtti> THERE IS ONLY ONE LINK THAT HAS WORD UBUNTU ON IT
[10:03] <iceroot> answerNOW: i guess the most important link for you is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[10:03] <answerNOW> there is 2 version for oneiric? which one?
[10:03] <answerNOW> 0.5.2-oneiric0
[10:03] <answerNOW> or 4.8.30-10oneiric3
[10:04] <Myrtti> "Adding this PPA to your system"
[10:04] <Myrtti> "You can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA by adding ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin to your system's Software Sources."
[10:05] <Myrtti> there is a link after that text that says (Read about installing) - click it - it has information on how to do it.
[10:07] <answerNOW> that is the problem, where is the ppa?
[10:07] <answerNOW> sudo apt-get repository ____________?
[10:08] <iceroot> answerNOW: in the answer of Myrtti
[10:08] <Myrtti> all the information in the world is in your reach and available faster than we can type it for you, if you only search a bit, and use time in reading and understanding it.
[10:09] <answerNOW> E: Invalid operation repository
[10:09] <Myrtti> there is a link after that text that says (Read about installing) - click it - it has information on how to do it.
[10:09] <iceroot> answerNOW: /nick readingNOW
[10:09] <iceroot> answerNOW: if you flame people becuase they are "slow" do you really think that persons want to help you when all infos are already provided?
[10:10] <answerNOW> I did this, sudo apt-get repository ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin
[10:10] <answerNOW> E: Invalid operation repository
[10:10] <iceroot> answerNOW: reread the text
[10:10] <iceroot> !tab | answerNOW
[10:10] <answerNOW> hah?
[10:10] <iceroot> answerNOW: apt- TAB TAB
[10:11] <answerNOW> apt- TAB TAB
[10:11] <answerNOW> what?
[10:11] <Myrtti> answerNOW: the link on the page, it has a step by step instructions
[10:11] <iceroot> !ppa | answerNOW
[10:11] <Myrtti> answerNOW: there is a step 2
[10:11] <iceroot> !addppa | answerNOW
[10:11] <Myrtti> there is also a step 3
[10:12] <answerNOW> no step 3!
[10:12] <iceroot> answerNOW: are you a troll?
[10:12] <answerNOW> no way!
[10:12] <iceroot> answerNOW: ubottu told you the exact command
[10:13] <answerNOW> I'm here for bitcoins and the nick said it all, ASAP
[10:13] <Myrtti> I'm getting a bit bored at spoonfeeding
[10:13] <iceroot> answerNOW: then read the infos ASAP
[10:13] <iceroot> Myrtti: its just a troll, last time the same and he flamed people of being stupid
[10:14] <Myrtti> iceroot: I'm trying to give benefit of doubt and assume good faith
[10:14] <answerNOW> I'm not a troll
[10:14] <iceroot> Myrtti: have fun :)
[10:14] <Myrtti> although my good faith is running out very fast
[10:14] <answerNOW> I'm suing you
[10:14] <iceroot> Myrtti: but i am allowed to say "i told you"? after that?
[10:14] <Myrtti> that was my good faith running out.
[10:14] <Myrtti> sure
[10:14] <iceroot> :)
[10:15] <Myrtti> I knew it in the beginning, I just tried and tried to be nice
[10:15] <iceroot> that is the reason why i am not an op
[10:15] <iceroot> i would wait 10 seconds and hit the kick-alias
[10:16] <iceroot> as it seems this "spaces between lxpanel when using xfce4-power-manager" is an lxpanel bug
[10:17] <iceroot> after the latest dist-upgrade, if i move a window over my systray the systray does not get a redraw and i see e.g. my firefox on the nm-applet-icon
[10:19] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/846878
[10:23] <judgeKen> iceroot and myritti
[10:23] <judgeKen> after I add repository and update..then?
[10:23] <judgeKen> how do I install?
[10:23] <judgeKen> what is the code?
[10:23] <judgeKen> myrtti
[10:23] <judgeKen> ikonia
[10:24] <judgeKen> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:bitcoin:bitcoin
[10:24] <judgeKen> then
[10:24] <judgeKen> sudo apt-get update
[10:29] <ngaum> I have a concern
[10:29] <ngaum> sudo apt-get install bitcoin Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package bitcoin
[10:29] <ngaum> sudo apt-get install bitcoin
[10:29] <ngaum> Reading package lists...
[10:29] <ngaum> Done Building dependency tree
[10:29] <ngaum> Reading state information... Done
[10:30] <ngaum> ikonia
[10:30] <ngaum> well what happened?
[10:30] <ngaum> E: Unable to locate package bitcoin
[10:30] <ngaum> kghk
[10:30] <Myrtti> you not only show a huge amount of inpatience, you're also incredibly rude
[10:30] <ngaum> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin
[10:31] <ngaum> sudo apt-get update
[10:31] <Myrtti> why are you hilighting random people?
[10:31] <ngaum> didn't work
[10:32]  * iceroot is holding the "i told you trigger" again
[10:32] <smile> :o
[10:35] <ikonia> errr why did nagm just ping me ?
[10:35] <ikonia> and I assume judgeKen is the same
[10:55] <solojin> howdy there! loving lubuntu and just found this place. was hoping to get help with a small matter. :D
[10:57] <solojin> im using wine and im trying to move a few files around in the "virtual" c drive but whenever i open the c drive it opens in my chromium browser, anyone know how to get it to open in a regular window so i can move a few things around?
[11:07] <smile> solojin: just start pcmanfm (file manager) and go to /home/user/.config/wine
[11:07] <smile> there is a c directory in it i think :)
[11:07] <solojin> right
[11:08] <solojin> but when i click the c drive it opens in my web browser
[11:08] <solojin> and i cant copy or paste anything from file manager to the web browser lol
[11:09] <smile> xD
[11:10] <smile> solojin: you tried right click => open? ;)
[11:10] <smile> (in pcmanfm :p )
[11:10] <solojin> yeah :D
[11:10] <solojin> and in the .config folder there is no wine folder
[11:11] <solojin> theres a .wine folder in the same directory as the .config tho
[11:12] <solojin> the path i was trying was menu://applications/wine-wine
[11:12] <Myrtti> I thought it was .wine/drive_c/
[11:13] <solojin> strangely my files arent in that directory
[11:13] <solojin> but when i browse to them through menu://applications/wine-wine i can see them in my web browser lol
[11:15] <solojin> ok well i guess what im really doing is using winetricks to browse the files
[11:15] <solojin> so the wierd thing is i can use winetricks to find the files but then they arent there if i browse to them normally
[11:32] <solojin> i give up good night D:
[11:51] <thor_> How do get htop to run in lxterminal when click on the htop icon
[11:52] <thor_> how do i
[11:53] <thor_> i dont no howto
[13:23] <jailtonpierre> I'm having some difficulties about icons on desktop. Can you help me?
[13:25] <jailtonpierre> I'm having some difficulties about icons on desktop. Can you help me?
[13:28] <jailtonpierre> nobody?
[13:33] <phillw> jailtonpierre: what problems?
[13:34] <jailtonpierre> I don't know how to create icons
[13:35] <phillw> jailtonpierre: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_can_I_create_a_shortcut_on_the_Desktop
[13:35] <jailtonpierre> for programs and folders
[13:35] <jailtonpierre> Thanks
[13:35] <jailtonpierre> I'll try
[13:38] <jailtonpierre> phillw: thanks again, it worked
[13:43] <phillw> yvw
[13:44] <jailtonpierre> you know anything about a lubuntu software center?
[13:44] <phillw> jailtonpierre: yeah, it is a low resource version of the ubuntu software center.
[13:49] <jailtonpierre> but is it working?
[14:24] <milen8204> hello all how can I set desktop change to be whit Ctrl+ALt+Left not whit mouse scroll ?
[15:42] <milen8204> how can I share a afolder in Lubuntu ?
[17:25] <ignoredthoughts> Celltech: how much RAM is your Lubuntu using at idle?
[18:04] <Boris_> hello
[18:06] <Boris_> i need some help if possible...
[18:07] <Boris_> i'm running on lubuntu and i updated to 11.10 when it was released and had no issue
[18:07] <valdur55> And what is your issue?
[18:08] <Boris_> a few days ago, i had to create an user account for a friend with limited acces and i deleted it later
[18:08] <Boris_> but now i can't log in
[18:08] <Boris_> i've tried to change password using the recovery mode but dosen't change anything
[18:09] <valdur55> can you login with you limited account?
[18:10] <Boris_> i delete the limited account a few daays ago
[18:11] <Boris_> i found out on the web that it's was u know bug and a searched for a solution but nothing i've tried has worked
[18:11] <Boris_> *a known bug
[18:12] <valdur55> Boris_, maybe you get your answer on #ubuntu room.
[18:13] <Boris_> i heard it was a bug with a file named Xauthority but can't find it
[18:13] <Boris_> i'll go chack on that room
[18:13] <Boris_> thanks for your help
[18:25] <phillw> Boris_: it will most likely be .IDEAuthority
[18:35] <phillw> Boris_: sorry for the delay, it is Xuathority, usually the permissions have been messed up.
[18:37] <Guest15844> Hello all. Looking for assistance with Lubuntu 12.04 booting in Virtualbox. Is this the right place? Thanks.
[18:38] <Unit193> Well, not if you don't ask your question...
[18:39] <Guest15844> Thanks. While booting 12.04 is booting in VB I'm dumped to a CL. This happens in live and install options. Any ideas?
[18:40] <Unit193> Big long thread in the mailing list, phillw may be able to remember some of it, but generally, it's a dev version, it's not going to work out the best for now.
[18:41] <Guest15844> Not going to work best for now ... for VB in particular or booting in general?
[18:41] <Unit193> In general, but he may have ideas.
[18:42] <phillw> Guest15844: I have seen the issue mentioned - I'm trying to find a bug report for you.
[18:42] <phillw> I can only find a reference for ppc
[18:43] <Guest15844> Thanks phillw, appreciate the effort.
[18:43] <phillw> Guest15844: can you start lubuntu?
[18:43] <phillw> from CLI?
[18:44] <Guest15844> The only command I attempted from CLI was 'startx' and it failed.
[18:45] <Unit193> I got it to work once by starting x, then `startlubuntu`, but that was an odd way and a while ago...
[18:45] <Guest15844> I'll give 'startlubuntu' a try ...
[18:46] <phillw> Unit193: I'm also struggling to dust off my memory cells, it's been a while since I faced this one :(
[18:47] <Guest15844> for reference: Originally got no boot, until manually selected PAE option in VB.
[18:49] <phillw> Guest15844: try /usr/bin/startlubuntu
[18:49] <Guest15844> Feedback: 'startlubuntu' from CLI give output - GTK warning cannot open display
[18:52] <Unit193> Either `sudo service lightdm start` or `sudo X` and type the `startlubuntu` only for the second in another TTY
[18:54] <phillw> Guest15844: are you using the latest daily for 12.04?
[18:56] <Guest15844> iso date is 2/25/2012, d/l'd it about 30 minutes ago.
[18:57] <phillw> Guest15844: it is possible the build has a major gremlin. Infuriatingly I do not have my VM's running.
[18:58] <Guest15844> phillw - thanks. tyring Unit193 advice - gave 'sudo X' command - for clarity now I should go to 2nd TTY and issue 'startlubuntu'?
[18:58] <Unit193> Might be worth a shot...
[18:59] <Unit193> At best.
[18:59] <Guest15844> Forgive me, how to open a second TTY from VB screen? Pecking around but no joy yet...
[18:59] <phillw> Guest15844: when testing, expect it to break - the 'fun' is in reporting what broke & what you did to fix it.
[19:00] <Guest15844> I agree.
[19:00] <Unit193> Think it's the command char +F2?
[19:00] <phillw> ctrl
[19:00] <Guest15844> thanks, standby
[19:01] <phillw> fortunantely linux does keep a few spare console logins :)
[19:04] <Guest15844> sudo x - starts the boot process, but in locks with a blank screen (as far as I can tell) and was never able to switch TTY's <con't>
[19:06] <Unit193> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8109343&postcount=2 ?
[19:06] <Guest15844> sudo service lightdm start - command not found
[19:06] <Guest15844> Unit193 - going to your link now ...
[19:08] <Unit193> Hmmm... We should be using lightdm, but you can check in /etc/init.d/ if you really want (and sudo /etc/init.d/*whatever*dm start )
[19:08] <Guest15844> Good info on VB TTY switching ... trying to boot again now
[19:08] <Unit193> Well, it worked once, but not really sure I remember what I did exactly.
[19:15] <Guest15844> got to a second tty and can also now see output on sudo x command - from 2nd tty startlubuntu gives: GTK warning cannot open display
[19:18] <Guest15844> feedback on sudo x command: the boot seems to die on error - failed to load module 'vboxvideo' module does not exist
[19:22] <phillw> Guest15844: that is a vbox problem, not a lubuntu one :(
[19:26] <Guest15844> Could be my VB version (4.0.6). I think this is a little old.
[19:26] <phillw> Guest15844: as I do not have access to VB, the best I can find is http://forums.funtoo.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4055
[19:27] <phillw> Guest15844: yeah, it may be worth updating to the newest one.
[19:30] <Guest15844> Got to go. Out of playtime for now. Thanks for the help everyone.
[20:12] <thor_> I've just tested lubuntu 12.04 daily-live 64bit in virtualbox and come only to black terminal?
[20:14] <valdur55> thor_, same here, wait next build.... startx fails...
[20:16] <thor_> valdur55: Do you mean that it's okay tomorrow
[20:16] <valdur55> thor_, maybe yes, maybe not
[20:17] <thor_> valdur55:  ok :)
[20:18] <valdur55> thor_, try startx and you get some driver failure
[20:19] <thor_> valdur55:  've tried it and it did not help
[20:19] <valdur55> did you get driver erros?
[20:20] <thor_> valdur55: maybe but can not remember it
[20:21] <valdur55> ok :). It's simpler to wait new daily build.
[20:22] <thor_> valdur55:  indeed he he
[20:31] <uskerine> hi, how can i config a given and limited set of applications in the launch button of the task bar for a certain user?
[20:31] <uskerine> so that specific user can not access all installed applications but a few specific ones
[23:47] <trakinas> hi guys! Im trying to start memtest, but it looks like it is doing nothing/not starting
[23:48] <jason2007> did you try starting it threw terminal?
[23:49] <trakinas> to run memtest with my system booted
[23:49] <trakinas> ?
[23:49] <trakinas> or in grub terminal?