| DropsOfSerenity | is there any way to change the gradation of the volume slider when I press the volume up button, I have sensitive speakers and would like to raise it around 2% instead of 5% i'm running ubuntu 12.04 | 01:47 |
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| DropsOfSerenity | is there any way to change the gradation of the volume slider when I press the volume up button, I have sensitive speakers and would like to raise it around 2% instead of 5% i'm running ubuntu 12.04 | 02:20 |
| DropsOfSerenity | i've been looking in dconf-editor for an option like volume-step or something | 02:20 |
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| JamesMR | popey: do you happen to know if kazam usually hangs for ages after recording a two hour screencast? | 04:25 |
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| cheako | has anyone used luks on a USB drives casper-rw file? | 04:34 |
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| kabiigon | hi | 05:38 |
| kabiigon | does anyoneknow about usb3 | 05:38 |
| kabiigon | my card is being reconized by lspci | 05:42 |
| cheako | kabiigon: I've got that, but I don't have any devices beyond usb2.0. | 05:51 |
| cheako | One note is that installing the drivers on windows XP will cause kvm/qemu to loose access to USB devices(if you follow). | 05:52 |
| log | !info mesa | 05:54 |
| ubottu | Package mesa does not exist in precise | 05:54 |
| log | !info mesa oneiric | 05:54 |
| ubottu | Package mesa does not exist in oneiric | 05:54 |
| cheako | !info mesa-common-dev | 05:57 |
| ubottu | mesa-common-dev (source: mesa): Developer documentation for Mesa. In component main, is optional. Version 8.0.1-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 309 kB, installed size 1522 kB | 05:57 |
| cheako | I've mastered folding USB persistent storage into squashfs. http://jan.varho.org/?p=254&cpage=1#comment-1123 | 06:38 |
| xiambax | GTK seems to be buggy in development | 07:50 |
| xiambax | Could it be because of old themes? | 07:50 |
| cheako | xiambax: I have problems with huludesktop after attempting(failing) to configure transparency in GTK. I don't understand engines at all. | 07:59 |
| xiambax | I do a little. But all the engines apparently pulled over correctly. Still look like ass. I just went default gtk | 08:00 |
| cheako | Yeah, I just want fiery/blurry/cube-spinning/wobbling effects back. Though this gnome-shell interface is niffy. | 08:05 |
| xiambax | I prefer gnome over unity. but i used Fluxbox back in the day. | 08:07 |
| xiambax | But I have a mac desktop | 08:07 |
| xiambax | So mac and gnome seem very similar to me | 08:07 |
| cheako | I had a G5-PPC and I ended up putting Debian on it because I couldn't stand the UI(back then I was a sawfish/gnome-session/panel user) used) and it's X implementation leaved much to be desired. | 08:10 |
| cheako | ...that and after going hard down the filesystem's b-tree would be corrupt, when that happens it's all over. | 08:10 |
| OldManMagnus | hi. anyone got any idea how to change the nautilus right click menu to get the "open with" option back? | 10:22 |
| OldManMagnus | i'm writing some code and want to run it from nautilus. | 10:23 |
| OldManMagnus | it gives you a list of programs you can use, but doesn't seem to let you add your own. | 10:24 |
| spacebug- | OldManMagnus: I'm using an extention for that in nautilus which lets you add your own program/scritps to run on files/folders | 10:33 |
| OldManMagnus | spacebug-: ah, that sounds useful. got a link? | 10:40 |
| OldManMagnus | spacebug-: ? | 10:46 |
| spacebug- | sorry took a shower hehe. Hum | 10:47 |
| spacebug- | not sure which of my packages it is.. w8 | 10:48 |
| pangolin | OldManMagnus: I think nautilus-actions is what you want | 10:48 |
| spacebug- | http://pastebin.com/y4jr1T9D | 10:49 |
| spacebug- | yeah me too | 10:49 |
| OldManMagnus | cool. thanks guys. | 10:50 |
| spacebug- | then scripts should be in $HOME/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts | 10:50 |
| DaniG2k | guys how can I remove unity in 12.04 and install xfce? | 11:02 |
| DaniG2k | guys how can I remove unity in 12.04 and install xfce? | 11:04 |
| robin0800 | ! notunity | DaniG2k | 11:04 |
| ubottu | DaniG2k: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic | 11:04 |
| brobostigon | !xubuntu-desktop | 11:05 |
| ubottu | k/ed/x/l/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading. | 11:05 |
| DaniG2k | so i have to install gnome first and xfce second? | 11:05 |
| brobostigon | DaniG2k: you should just be able to install xubuntu-desktop package, and just switch on login. | 11:06 |
| DaniG2k | ok | 11:06 |
| DaniG2k | how do I get rid of Unity after? | 11:06 |
| brobostigon | DaniG2k: or just use xubuntu 12.04 | 11:06 |
| zzecool | DaniG2k: read this http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity | 11:21 |
| zzecool | probably the same or almost the same will work for precise | 11:21 |
| zzecool | instead of use the terminal do what the tutorial says using synaptic | 11:21 |
| zzecool | so you can have a visual about what is happening | 11:22 |
| zzecool | glosoli: nooboli | 11:22 |
| zzecool | :D | 11:22 |
| glosoli | what ? | 11:23 |
| DaniG2k | im afraid it will mess up my system for some reason :S | 11:25 |
| glosoli | DaniG2k: Why would you remove unity | 11:25 |
| glosoli | ? | 11:25 |
| DaniG2k | because i can't stand it | 11:26 |
| glosoli | DaniG2k: So just switch to Gnome Classic :) | 11:26 |
| glosoli | No need to remove it | 11:26 |
| glosoli | it doesn't use 10tb in your hdd | 11:26 |
| DaniG2k | my partition is really low on space | 11:26 |
| brobostigon | as i said, why not just use xubuntu 12.04, then no need to mess around, it has xfce, and no need to worry about unity. | 11:26 |
| DaniG2k | i have 200MB left :'( | 11:26 |
| glosoli | DaniG2k: how much you gave for Linux ? | 11:27 |
| DaniG2k | 20GB | 11:28 |
| DaniG2k | but Ubuntu becomes bigger and bigger | 11:28 |
| DaniG2k | so now I'm really low on space | 11:28 |
| DaniG2k | thinking of just switching distro | 11:28 |
| brobostigon | DaniG2k: it is worth seeing how big /var/log is, as that is where all the log files are, and it can become quite a size. | 11:29 |
| DaniG2k | brobostigon: its 34 MB | 11:30 |
| brobostigon | DaniG2k: you should have disk space analyser installed, use that to see wheree space is being used, and can be cleaned out. | 11:30 |
| yofel | DaniG2k: if you're on precise your apt file cache is likely using a lot of space, run apt-get clean | 11:35 |
| chmac | How do I get the laptop to lock the screen when I close the lid? | 11:50 |
| bazhang | chmac, check the screensaver settings? | 11:51 |
| chmac | bazhang: I don't have screensaver settings in system settings I don't think. | 11:52 |
| chmac | bazhang: My options in power settings are "when lid is closed" do nothing, suspend or hibernate. I want lock. | 11:53 |
| arand | chmac: Looking in dconf,doesn't look like that is available in gnome, unfortunately... | 11:57 |
| chmac | arand: Sadly my research is turning up the same, although I did find a bash script that apparently has the desired effect, will experiment later. :-) | 11:57 |
| chmac | arand, bazhang: Thanks for looking into it. | 11:57 |
| zzecool | chmac: system settings --------> brightness and lock | 11:58 |
| chmac | zzecool: So I have lock "On" after 5 minutes, but if I close the lid and reopen within 5 minutes, screen is unlocked. | 11:59 |
| arand | dconf makes me wonder what some people are smoking... | 11:59 |
| zzecool | chmac: Lock screen after screen : Turns off | 12:00 |
| zzecool | its simple | 12:01 |
| zzecool | why so much confusion ? | 12:01 |
| chmac | zzecool: Just tried it, but it doesn't have the desired effect. | 12:01 |
| chmac | zzecool: I think it refers to the setting above, turn the screen off when inactive for X minutes. | 12:01 |
| zzecool | What is the desired and what it does? | 12:02 |
| chmac | zzecool: I want the screen to lock when I close the laptop lid. It does not currently. | 12:02 |
| mortal | has anyone else had virtual desktop keybindings disappear with the latest update? | 12:05 |
| chmac | mortal: You mean ctrl-alt-left/right/etc? If so, yes. | 12:06 |
| zzecool | chmac: i think the suspend is broken | 12:06 |
| chmac | zzecool: I don't want my machine to suspend when I close the lid. | 12:06 |
| chmac | How do I find out (command line) whether a package was installed manually or as a dependency? | 12:07 |
| zzecool | then there is no feature that can make what you asking | 12:07 |
| zzecool | you can file a bug | 12:07 |
| zzecool | as a wish | 12:07 |
| zzecool | and explain what you want as a behaviour | 12:07 |
| chmac | zzecool: Ok, thanks for your input. | 12:07 |
| arand | mortal: They werer moved, no? | 12:07 |
| arand | mortal: super+shift+arrows | 12:08 |
| zzecool | chmac: go and fill the bug report because noon will do it for you | 12:08 |
| zzecool | nooone* | 12:08 |
| mortal | thank you | 12:08 |
| mortal | I have also lost the network-manager icon | 12:10 |
| * arand wonders if the keybind change will be the "omg-wtf-revert!!!-ubuntu-is-stupid" of this release ;) | 12:11 | |
| chmac | arand: What's the new keybind? | 12:12 |
| arand | chmac: ^ I just said it :) | 12:12 |
| chmac | arand: Oh yes, so you did! :-) | 12:12 |
| chmac | Oh, that's a much better default. | 12:12 |
| chmac | Anyone else have openid issues logging into launchpad? Regularly fails for me and I can never remember exactly how I got it to work previously. | 12:14 |
| chmac | zzecool: The bug exists already https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/871047 | 12:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 871047 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Can no longer set screen to lock when lid closed" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:21 |
| zzecool | ok i will confirm it | 12:21 |
| zzecool | :) | 12:21 |
| zzecool | as affects me | 12:21 |
| chmac | Sweet | 12:22 |
| arand | zzecool: Likely something that could use forwarding upstream to gnome | 12:23 |
| zzecool | it is confirmed hope that it is going to get any attention | 12:24 |
| penguin42 | chromium seems to be getting a bit touchy for me in PP; a few attempts to start, a few hangs - anyone else seeing this? | 13:00 |
| jokerdino | i think it is just you ma'am penguin42 | 13:01 |
| penguin42 | damn; going to be hard to debug and impossible to report given it's non-repeatable | 13:03 |
| jokerdino | what exactly is happening? | 13:03 |
| penguin42 | jokerdino: I've had a few times clicked the button on the panel and it doesn't come up; click again a minute later and it starts | 13:04 |
| penguin42 | jokerdino: But today I've also had a few crashes on simple stuff like G+ and google reader, page opening empty and other pages not responding to clicks | 13:05 |
| jokerdino | oh dear, it is awesome as ever before here. | 13:06 |
| jokerdino | BRB | 13:06 |
| brobostigon | penguin42: start it from terminal, and watch the error output in terminal. | 13:07 |
| penguin42 | brobostigon: Indeed, and of course having done that it worked | 13:07 |
| brobostigon | penguin42: hmmm, interesting. | 13:08 |
| penguin42 | bit of a heisenbug | 13:08 |
| spacebug- | I remapped show first menuitem from F10 to F12 in ccsm and I have also unchecked "enable menu shortcut key" in terminal but when I press F10 now it brings up the same menu I get when pressing right mouse key. How can I disable/change that? I'm using F10 to get the quit dialog in mc | 13:55 |
| jrgifford | anyone know what package supplies the dictionaries? I found a bug - it doesn't know what "Pangolin" is... | 14:48 |
| ironhalik | the irony... | 14:52 |
| jrgifford | i know right? | 14:53 |
| brobostigon | !aspell | 14:53 |
| brobostigon | !info aspell | 14:53 |
| ubottu | aspell (source: aspell): GNU Aspell spell-checker. In component main, is optional. Version 0.60.7~20110707-1 (precise), package size 87 kB, installed size 360 kB | 14:54 |
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| cjohnston | I just opened chromium and got a system crash.. It says "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has expereinced an internal error. It gives me a check box for send an error report, a button for show details and a continue button.. One problem, my mouse stops working after this crash.. The Caps lock and scroll lock buttons on my keyboard are now flashing.. any ideas? | 18:10 |
| penguin42 | cjohnston: If capslock/scroll lock are flashing it's probably a kernel panic - you need to hit reset | 18:10 |
| cjohnston | penguin42: I did that the first time, and it did it again.. is there anything i can do to get rid of this? | 18:11 |
| cjohnston | other than wait for an update? | 18:12 |
| penguin42 | cjohnston: it's most likely a graphics driver issue (although chromium is getting touchy for me as well and I'm not seeing a kernel panic) | 18:13 |
| penguin42 | cjohnston: It's interesting it manages to display the crash box before it dies - there is a small chance there are actually some logs in /var/log/syslog after reboot | 18:15 |
| zzecool | glosoli: you here? | 18:17 |
| cjohnston | penguin42: is there something i can search for it in to try and find? | 18:17 |
| penguin42 | well it would be a back trace I'd be looking for - just before the last boot | 18:19 |
| cjohnston | penguin42: I just found BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffffffff81176800 | 18:19 |
| penguin42 | cjohnston: Ah, can you pastebin it? | 18:19 |
| cjohnston | penguin42: its on the current boot, not the last one... | 18:20 |
| cjohnston | but still an issue | 18:20 |
| cjohnston | http://paste.ubuntu.com/856818/ | 18:20 |
| glosoli | zzecool: yea | 18:21 |
| penguin42 | cjohnston: Hmm that shouldn't happen | 18:21 |
| zzecool | glosoli: i had constant crashes on google chrome unstable | 18:22 |
| glosoli | zzecool: I'm not, just for nautilus.... | 18:22 |
| zzecool | but i did delete .config/google-chrome and did a reinstall | 18:22 |
| cjohnston | penguin42: I also found http://paste.ubuntu.com/856826/ | 18:22 |
| zzecool | im ok now | 18:23 |
| glosoli | zzecool: my nautilus constantly crash | 18:23 |
| zzecool | rly? | 18:23 |
| zzecool | np here | 18:23 |
| zzecool | works great | 18:23 |
| zzecool | i had some dash lock ups | 18:24 |
| zzecool | looked like working but you cant run any app | 18:24 |
| zzecool | only navigate | 18:24 |
| zzecool | log out log in is a fix | 18:24 |
| penguin42 | cjohnston: Don't worry - probably separate bug | 18:29 |
| glosoli | friggin smuxi.... | 18:30 |
| glosoli | disconnected me once again | 18:30 |
| cjohnston | penguin42: so do i need to report two seperate bugs? | 18:31 |
| penguin42 | cjohnston: Yep, looks like it | 18:35 |
| cjohnston | what should I file them against? just ubuntu? | 18:35 |
| penguin42 | cjohnston: use ubuntu-bug linux for both of them | 18:36 |
| cjohnston | ok | 18:36 |
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| cjohnston | penguin42: that went over very poorly for me.. I'm now at the login screen | 18:41 |
| penguin42 | cjohnston: It sounds like lots of random stuff is failing for you - I'd run a ramtest | 18:42 |
| cjohnston | how do i do that | 18:42 |
| Hiob10hiob | moin, i have a problem..... | 18:43 |
| Hiob10hiob | when i leave my Laptop for a while, it cant wake up again | 18:44 |
| Hiob10hiob | the screen just stay black | 18:44 |
| Hiob10hiob | CTRL + ALT + F1 has no reaction | 18:44 |
| Hiob10hiob | only with CTRL + ALT + PRINT + U +X (Kernel Shutdown) i can shutdown | 18:45 |
| Hiob10hiob | any suggestions? | 18:49 |
| ironhalik | any ideas how I could run unity2d from livecd? when I try to change users, lightdm gets stuck in a restart loop | 18:51 |
| ironhalik | I think there was some way to simulate lightdm from within another session | 18:51 |
| Ampelbein | ironhalik: xnest or xephyr? | 18:55 |
| ironhalik | I think it will be easier to just install it :) | 19:12 |
| ironhalik | hmm, where is a samba share mounted? | 19:17 |
| ironhalik | if I accessed it via nautilus | 19:17 |
| crizzy | ironhalik: under /media likely | 19:17 |
| ironhalik | actually, its not there | 19:17 |
| ironhalik | neither in /mnt | 19:17 |
| Ampelbein | ironhalik: doesn't it show in mtab? | 19:19 |
| ironhalik | nope | 19:20 |
| ironhalik | nvm, I mounted it manually | 19:20 |
| scientes | with the test rebuild me everyone who has precise will have to downlaod everything over again? | 19:28 |
| Ampelbein | scientes: Nope, the rebuild is done in a seperate archive. | 19:28 |
| Ampelbein | scientes: You have to only download packages that failed in the rebuild and got a new upload to fix the failure. | 19:29 |
| scientes | will there be a rebuild in the main archive down the road? | 19:29 |
| Ampelbein | scientes: No, this is never done. | 19:29 |
| scientes | ok thx | 19:29 |
| scientes | so all i loose is stability bug-wise :) | 19:29 |
| scientes | ''This is still a BETA release.'' | 19:30 |
| scientes | already says BETA | 19:30 |
| penguin42 | cjohnston: Reboot, hold left shift down as it comes past the bios, you should get a grub menu and on that menu is a memtest, leave it at the memtest for a few hours and see if it gives any errors | 19:31 |
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| scientes | cjohnston, at least the recent memtests will tell you on the screen after a full pass has completed without errors | 19:43 |
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| scientes | are delta-debs going to come any time soon? | 19:52 |
| scientes | i.e. presto | 19:52 |
| arand | scientes: A debdelta server for the ubuntu repo? THere isn't one yet? | 19:54 |
| scientes | all the test-rebuild is so that people don't run into problems when they download the source and build their own | 19:54 |
| scientes | arand, ubuntu brainstorm said it was in development | 19:54 |
| scientes | presto for ubuntu | 19:54 |
| mrdeb | hi | 20:02 |
| mrdeb | who uses the 1204 | 20:02 |
| penguin42 | most here | 20:08 |
| outbox | when I dig host the query time is always 0 even when I restart dnsmasq, how can i make sure that dnsmasq is working fine? | 20:19 |
| urfr332gO | outbox, you running a actual release or 12.04? | 20:22 |
| ironhalik | penguin42: maybe you will know - whe the hell Ubuntu didnt go with Precise Penguin with 12.04?! | 20:22 |
| outbox | urfr332gO, yes | 20:23 |
| urfr332gO | outbox, yes meaning 12.04? | 20:23 |
| penguin42 | ironhalik: I don't know! Precise Penguin Provides Perfect Peudonym | 20:24 |
| penguin42 | ironhalik: Personally I blame big Mark | 20:24 |
| outbox | urfr332gO, it is | 20:24 |
| urfr332gO | outbox, cool, you in the right place. :) | 20:24 |
| ironhalik | if he keeps it up, we gonna have to do something about big mark ;> | 20:24 |
| ironhalik | anyone actually had dnsmasq installed by default? | 20:25 |
| ironhalik | oh nvm, I probably had it, it just wasnt caching | 20:25 |
| penguin42 | ironhalik: It seems dnsmasq is now a default in PP | 20:25 |
| zzecool | yes it is | 20:26 |
| zzecool | its was a description in one bluprint asswel | 20:26 |
| zzecool | as well* | 20:26 |
| zzecool | ;p | 20:26 |
| outbox | so how can i uninstall dnsmasq as network-manager depends on it | 20:26 |
| scientes | installing dnsmasq by default now? | 20:26 |
| scientes | that sounds like a good move | 20:27 |
| scientes | its a great piece of software | 20:27 |
| zzecool | scientes: do you know any way to make dnsmsq to forward the resolvs to another dns ? | 20:27 |
| zzecool | i was trying to find a way to have dnsmsq + dnscrypt work together in different ips | 20:28 |
| zzecool | but i cant find any way to forward the dns resolves | 20:28 |
| scientes | zzecool, dnsmasq just uses resolv.conf | 20:28 |
| scientes | unless you give it another resolv.conf | 20:28 |
| zzecool | hmm | 20:28 |
| scientes | you can also set dns server on a domain basis | 20:29 |
| scientes | like to force ipv6 resolving for google | 20:29 |
| scientes | or maybe they make that the default now, not sure | 20:29 |
| scientes | just man dnsmasq, its well documented | 20:29 |
| zzecool | i think that whatever i put in resolv.conf resets back to 127.0.0.1 where dnsmaq is listening | 20:29 |
| scientes | ahhh gotcha | 20:29 |
| scientes | thats a dhcp problem | 20:30 |
| scientes | but its probably not 127.0.0.1 but your external ip address | 20:30 |
| outbox | zzecool, you can use package resolveconf to keep your resolve.conf settings permanenly | 20:30 |
| penguin42 | zzecool: Yeh, there is now a config file that dnsmasq reads instead - and it's all driven by network manager | 20:30 |
| scientes | ^^^ | 20:30 |
| zzecool | i know all this | 20:31 |
| scientes | dnsmasq in ubuntu i guess uses an alternate resolv.conf | 20:31 |
| zzecool | every single one dns server - cache have an option to only cache and forward the resolves to another server | 20:31 |
| zzecool | i cant find this feature to dnsmasq | 20:31 |
| scientes | zzecool, and that is exactly what dnsmasq does by default | 20:31 |
| scientes | so you don't even have to configure it | 20:32 |
| zzecool | scientes: let me explain | 20:33 |
| zzecool | i have 2 dns servers running on my pc | 20:33 |
| scientes | zzecool, just set the alternate resolv.confr by hand | 20:33 |
| scientes | and then put the ips you want to forward to inthere | 20:33 |
| zzecool | confr ? | 20:33 |
| scientes | you can tell dnsmasq which resolv.conf to use in dnsmasq.conf | 20:34 |
| zzecool | but network manager use his config | 20:34 |
| zzecool | every time dnsmasq starts | 20:34 |
| zzecool | let me show you | 20:34 |
| zzecool | type : ps aux | grep dnsmasq | 20:35 |
| zzecool | you will see the config | 20:36 |
| scientes | well im using oneric | 20:36 |
| scientes | hope the upgrade to precise doesn't f it up for me | 20:36 |
| scientes | cause i use dnsmasq for alot of stuff | 20:36 |
| scientes | like tftp | 20:36 |
| zzecool | wait i will show you | 20:37 |
| zzecool | scientes: http://pastebin.com/eYbxVpVh | 20:37 |
| zzecool | this is by default | 20:38 |
| zzecool | so its allrdy a mess | 20:38 |
| scientes | oh geeze | 20:38 |
| scientes | that ubuntu for you (did i say that!) | 20:38 |
| scientes | if they are going to do something ugly like that they should listen on a non-default port | 20:39 |
| zzecool | it gonna be for you too ;p | 20:39 |
| scientes | or just on lo | 20:39 |
| scientes | so it doesn | 20:39 |
| zzecool | its on lo | 20:39 |
| scientes | 't conflict with running your own dns server | 20:39 |
| zzecool | but on the default port | 20:39 |
| scientes | on the real port | 20:39 |
| scientes | no, its not on lo | 20:39 |
| zzecool | my second dns is running on 127.0.0.2 so i dont have a conflict | 20:39 |
| scientes | its on 127.0.0.1 | 20:39 |
| scientes | there is a difference | 20:39 |
| zzecool | but i cant redirect form dnsmasq to the second | 20:39 |
| scientes | thats a fucking mess | 20:40 |
| zzecool | i told ya | 20:40 |
| scientes | shit, and the precise upgrade already started | 20:40 |
| zzecool | lol | 20:40 |
| scientes | that will fuck my shit up | 20:40 |
| penguin42 | scientes: While it may indeed be, they prefer less language in this channel | 20:41 |
| zzecool | i was testing DNSCrypt form opendns | 20:41 |
| zzecool | its very cool | 20:41 |
| scientes | oh sorry penguin42 | 20:41 |
| zzecool | but doesnt give a shit about local dns names | 20:41 |
| zzecool | so you need a second dns | 20:41 |
| zzecool | ;/ | 20:41 |
| ironhalik | hmm, I guess I can enable dnsmasq caching function? | 20:41 |
| zzecool | ironhalik: i dont know | 20:41 |
| mrdeb | huh | 20:42 |
| zzecool | it is suppose that the implement dnsmasq for cache but the config is strange | 20:42 |
| zzecool | i dont get it | 20:42 |
| zzecool | that they * | 20:42 |
| zzecool | nevermind gonna watch some series ;p c ya | 20:43 |
| ironhalik | hf :> | 20:43 |
| zzecool | ty | 20:43 |
| zzecool | if you have any news about dnsmasq give me a notice when you see me again :) | 20:44 |
| penguin42 | hmm - is it possible to run a dns server on a port other than 53 and resolv.conf pick it up? And would it make sense for nm to do that to cause less chaos? | 20:51 |
| penguin42 | hmm doesn't look like resolv.conf supports a port | 20:52 |
| scientes | is this a ubuntu change or an upstream change? | 20:54 |
| scientes | dnsmasq supports a config directory, ie /etc/dnsmasq.d/ | 20:54 |
| scientes | then network manager could split out the DHCP, TFTP, stuff | 20:54 |
| ironhalik | hmm, Ive got no dnsmasq confs in etc | 20:55 |
| scientes | and ship a differn't default dns config for dnsmasq that only listens locally | 20:55 |
| scientes | ironhalik, /etc/dnsmasq.conf | 20:55 |
| scientes | the directory is not shipped currently | 20:55 |
| ironhalik | nope, no conf | 20:56 |
| scientes | but dovecot for example changed from one big, to a directory style | 20:56 |
| ironhalik | and no service, either | 20:56 |
| scientes | oh, well i havn't confirmed that | 20:56 |
| penguin42 | scientes: Looks like it's Ubuntu - based off: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-p-dns-resolving | 20:56 |
| ironhalik | well, should it have an init script? | 20:56 |
| ironhalik | hmm, on the other hand, maybe those changes make my openvpn work on 12.04 and not work in arch | 20:58 |
| Ian_Corne | nice one jo-erlend | 21:05 |
| jo-erlend | Ian_Corne? | 21:05 |
| Ian_Corne | https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg08073.html | 21:05 |
| Ian_Corne | did he reply? | 21:06 |
| jo-erlend | oh, that discussion went way too far. | 21:06 |
| Ian_Corne | I'm pretty sure he doesn't have much supporters of his views | 21:07 |
| jo-erlend | I don't think anybody bothered to see what the application is really about. It's a nearly defunct photo album/video catalog. Has absolutely nothing to do with pornography. | 21:07 |
| Ian_Corne | yeah | 21:08 |
| jo-erlend | if people are so sensitive that a mere word is enough to cause mental damage, then ... what can we do? There's got to be a limit. | 21:08 |
| Ian_Corne | indeed | 21:09 |
| jo-erlend | heh, you could, for instance say that fsck should be banned, because it could easily be mistyped into spelling an extremely horrible word. :) | 21:09 |
| jo-erlend | but I too went way too far in the discussion, and I'm trying to put it behind me. I don't usually react so strongly, and I shouldn't have. | 21:09 |
| ironhalik | hmm, Ubuntu tries to hit buisness market now, and such large and open repos could offset some corporate minds | 21:12 |
| ironhalik | ofcourse, you can install apps like that in Windows | 21:13 |
| ironhalik | but for some, of its in the software center, its built right into the operating system! portn operating system! | 21:13 |
| ironhalik | still, its much lesser evil/inconvinience then censoring everything | 21:14 |
| ironhalik | so nvm | 21:14 |
| jo-erlend | ironhalik, "apps like that"? You mean photo albums? | 21:22 |
| ironhalik | yeah, thats silly :) | 21:22 |
| ironhalik | photo albums named 'PronViewer' and using a blond, 80s style, pixelated chick as its icon | 21:23 |
| jo-erlend | What about "Xchat"? Does that sound a little suspicious as well? | 21:23 |
| ironhalik | less then BitchX :P | 21:24 |
| ironhalik | Its not about rational arguments, its about corporate mind | 21:24 |
| ironhalik | at least as I see it | 21:24 |
| jo-erlend | no, it was about religion. It was claimed that Ubuntu should be considered a completely Christian operating system, and therefore anything not Christian must be removed. | 21:25 |
| ironhalik | oh, I didnt think about it in that categories ;> | 21:26 |
| jo-erlend | but just like that discussion was inappropriate on the design list, this discussion is really inappropriate here, I think. | 21:26 |
| ironhalik | true | 21:26 |
| ironhalik | either way, I think the issue of operating system and religion conformity is silly enough it may be ignored :) | 21:31 |
| urfr332gO | ironhalik, gee golly wally were you not the one to complain about vapid posts yesterday. :) | 21:31 |
| ironhalik | I was? :) | 21:32 |
| jo-erlend | ironhalik, if you're reading through that list, however, you may find the posts from Ryan Gauger somewhat amusing... | 21:33 |
| ironhalik | I dont recall | 21:33 |
| urfr332gO | it was you but no biggie. :) | 21:33 |
| ironhalik | jo-erlend: I tried but it times out on me for some reason | 21:33 |
| ironhalik | urfr332gO: I really dont remember :) And since I dont visit the forums or lists, I dont know how its possible :) | 21:34 |
| urfr332gO | ironhalik, T 1330120503 8 28 ironhalikthats a lot of pointless discussion '? | 21:35 |
| urfr332gO | from scrollback | 21:36 |
| ironhalik | oh that wasnt about a post :P | 21:36 |
| ironhalik | that was about a discussion here | 21:36 |
| urfr332gO | ironhalik, about my discussion with another. | 21:36 |
| urfr332gO | ironhalik, do you get the point your now is no different. | 21:36 |
| urfr332gO | yours | 21:37 |
| ironhalik | it was tangue-in-cheek, since I didnt participate much | 21:37 |
| urfr332gO | ironhalik, I don't really care by the way just pointing this out. :) | 21:37 |
| urfr332gO | we all talk and say things off topic, most of us realize this and try to keep it shor. | 21:38 |
| ironhalik | I guess you're right - discussing the state of gaming and graphic performance in linux, in comparision with windows is almost religious in nature and should be ignored :P | 21:38 |
| urfr332gO | short | 21:38 |
| ironhalik | oh | 21:39 |
| ironhalik | well, since there is no other chatter here | 21:39 |
| urfr332gO | go for it I say. :) | 21:39 |
| ironhalik | ;> | 21:39 |
| ironhalik | hmm, Im even idling in #ubuntu-offtopic | 21:40 |
| ironhalik | But people there are talking about frozen pizza :/ | 21:40 |
| urfr332gO | ironhalik, I never go there it is like a good old boys club with generally user with no critical thinking abilities, but that is just my opinion. :) | 21:41 |
| urfr332gO | users | 21:41 |
| ironhalik | Well, if you "love frozen pizza", you seriously lack critical thinking abilities :) | 21:42 |
| urfr332gO | ironhalik, lol that is about the jist of it, and while eating it in your parents basement, "mommie" | 21:43 |
| ironhalik | and I think he ment frozen as in not-yet-thawed | 21:43 |
| urfr332gO | lol | 21:43 |
| ironhalik | Thats cruel :> I think most Ubuntu users moved out of their parents basement ;> | 21:44 |
| ironhalik | I think I know someone that lives with his parents attic actually, and his an avid Windows Sever 2003 user :) | 21:47 |
| urfr332gO | ironhalik, may have moved out but the mentality sticks. :) It is a metaphor | 21:48 |
| ironhalik | Sure, just kidding around ;> | 21:49 |
| ironhalik | But its still true story :) | 21:49 |
| Amoz | hi, anyone know if the ctrl+alt+arrowkeys shortcuts in gnome-shell are borked? | 22:02 |
| penguin42 | Amoz: Someone said they changed to super+alt+arrowkeys (not tried it myself) | 22:04 |
| jakubo | hi, what does the dri mesa experimental package do in 12.04? | 22:05 |
| Amoz | penguin42, doesn't work here either. I'll check if I can find shortcut settings somewhere. | 22:07 |
| jakubo | does it change anyting? | 22:09 |
| Daekdroom | jakubo, I think it contains the gallium mesa driver for nvidia cards, but let me check | 22:12 |
| jakubo | it activated quite a few things when gallium was not default, but that changed quite some time ago | 22:13 |
| jakubo | it used to bork my intel driver for instance... | 22:14 |
| Daekdroom | Well, the opensource nouveau driver is quite recent, so it might not be default on mesa yet. | 22:14 |
| ironhalik | Amoz: you can change the shortcuts in CCSM | 22:15 |
| Daekdroom | ironhalik, he's talking about gnome-shell | 22:15 |
| ironhalik | Amoz: right now they're binded to super+shift+arrows | 22:15 |
| ironhalik | oh, sorry, missed that :D | 22:16 |
| Daekdroom | Nothing to do with how unity shortcuts are set | 22:16 |
| ironhalik | Guys, would you say that missing hibernation entry in the cog button is a pm-utils issue of the applets? :> | 23:47 |
| snadge | its actually a "feature" | 23:49 |
| snadge | hibernate has been disabled by default, unless your system appears in a whitelist.. which is apparently very small | 23:51 |
| snadge | you can re-enable it again by editing an obscure file | 23:52 |
| penguin42 | that's a bit sad - although I can kind of understand why | 23:52 |
| ironhalik | oh, wow | 23:53 |
| ironhalik | funny part is, pm-hibernate works correctly | 23:53 |
| ironhalik | where is the file I can edit? :> | 23:53 |
| ironhalik | btw, disabling hibernation by default is not very green of them :P | 23:55 |
| ironhalik | ok, found the file http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-modify-policykit-to-allow-hibernation-in-upower | 23:57 |
| Daekdroom | ironhalik, hibernation is known to not work very well on a lot of systems. | 23:59 |
| graingert | is anyone getting an issue where they type a few letters into gnome-shell and it crashes? | 23:59 |
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