[01:47] is there any way to change the gradation of the volume slider when I press the volume up button, I have sensitive speakers and would like to raise it around 2% instead of 5% i'm running ubuntu 12.04 [02:20] is there any way to change the gradation of the volume slider when I press the volume up button, I have sensitive speakers and would like to raise it around 2% instead of 5% i'm running ubuntu 12.04 [02:20] i've been looking in dconf-editor for an option like volume-step or something === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [04:25] popey: do you happen to know if kazam usually hangs for ages after recording a two hour screencast? === stkrzysiak is now known as somedudeyoudontk [04:34] has anyone used luks on a USB drives casper-rw file? === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [05:38] hi [05:38] does anyoneknow about usb3 [05:42] my card is being reconized by lspci [05:51] kabiigon: I've got that, but I don't have any devices beyond usb2.0. [05:52] One note is that installing the drivers on windows XP will cause kvm/qemu to loose access to USB devices(if you follow). [05:54] !info mesa [05:54] Package mesa does not exist in precise [05:54] !info mesa oneiric [05:54] Package mesa does not exist in oneiric [05:57] !info mesa-common-dev [05:57] mesa-common-dev (source: mesa): Developer documentation for Mesa. In component main, is optional. Version 8.0.1-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 309 kB, installed size 1522 kB [06:38] I've mastered folding USB persistent storage into squashfs. http://jan.varho.org/?p=254&cpage=1#comment-1123 [07:50] GTK seems to be buggy in development [07:50] Could it be because of old themes? [07:59] xiambax: I have problems with huludesktop after attempting(failing) to configure transparency in GTK. I don't understand engines at all. [08:00] I do a little. But all the engines apparently pulled over correctly. Still look like ass. I just went default gtk [08:05] Yeah, I just want fiery/blurry/cube-spinning/wobbling effects back. Though this gnome-shell interface is niffy. [08:07] I prefer gnome over unity. but i used Fluxbox back in the day. [08:07] But I have a mac desktop [08:07] So mac and gnome seem very similar to me [08:10] I had a G5-PPC and I ended up putting Debian on it because I couldn't stand the UI(back then I was a sawfish/gnome-session/panel user) used) and it's X implementation leaved much to be desired. [08:10] ...that and after going hard down the filesystem's b-tree would be corrupt, when that happens it's all over. [10:22] hi. anyone got any idea how to change the nautilus right click menu to get the "open with" option back? [10:23] i'm writing some code and want to run it from nautilus. [10:24] it gives you a list of programs you can use, but doesn't seem to let you add your own. [10:33] OldManMagnus: I'm using an extention for that in nautilus which lets you add your own program/scritps to run on files/folders [10:40] spacebug-: ah, that sounds useful. got a link? [10:46] spacebug-: ? [10:47] sorry took a shower hehe. Hum [10:48] not sure which of my packages it is.. w8 [10:48] OldManMagnus: I think nautilus-actions is what you want [10:49] http://pastebin.com/y4jr1T9D [10:49] yeah me too [10:50] cool. thanks guys. [10:50] then scripts should be in $HOME/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts [11:02] guys how can I remove unity in 12.04 and install xfce? [11:04] guys how can I remove unity in 12.04 and install xfce? [11:04] ! notunity | DaniG2k [11:04] DaniG2k: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic [11:05] !xubuntu-desktop [11:05] k/ed/x/l/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading. [11:05] so i have to install gnome first and xfce second? [11:06] DaniG2k: you should just be able to install xubuntu-desktop package, and just switch on login. [11:06] ok [11:06] how do I get rid of Unity after? [11:06] DaniG2k: or just use xubuntu 12.04 [11:21] DaniG2k: read this http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity [11:21] probably the same or almost the same will work for precise [11:21] instead of use the terminal do what the tutorial says using synaptic [11:22] so you can have a visual about what is happening [11:22] glosoli: nooboli [11:22] :D [11:23] what ? [11:25] im afraid it will mess up my system for some reason :S [11:25] DaniG2k: Why would you remove unity [11:25] ? [11:26] because i can't stand it [11:26] DaniG2k: So just switch to Gnome Classic :) [11:26] No need to remove it [11:26] it doesn't use 10tb in your hdd [11:26] my partition is really low on space [11:26] as i said, why not just use xubuntu 12.04, then no need to mess around, it has xfce, and no need to worry about unity. [11:26] i have 200MB left :'( [11:27] DaniG2k: how much you gave for Linux ? [11:28] 20GB [11:28] but Ubuntu becomes bigger and bigger [11:28] so now I'm really low on space [11:28] thinking of just switching distro [11:29] DaniG2k: it is worth seeing how big /var/log is, as that is where all the log files are, and it can become quite a size. [11:30] brobostigon: its 34 MB [11:30] DaniG2k: you should have disk space analyser installed, use that to see wheree space is being used, and can be cleaned out. [11:35] DaniG2k: if you're on precise your apt file cache is likely using a lot of space, run apt-get clean [11:50] How do I get the laptop to lock the screen when I close the lid? [11:51] chmac, check the screensaver settings? [11:52] bazhang: I don't have screensaver settings in system settings I don't think. [11:53] bazhang: My options in power settings are "when lid is closed" do nothing, suspend or hibernate. I want lock. [11:57] chmac: Looking in dconf,doesn't look like that is available in gnome, unfortunately... [11:57] arand: Sadly my research is turning up the same, although I did find a bash script that apparently has the desired effect, will experiment later. :-) [11:57] arand, bazhang: Thanks for looking into it. [11:58] chmac: system settings --------> brightness and lock [11:59] zzecool: So I have lock "On" after 5 minutes, but if I close the lid and reopen within 5 minutes, screen is unlocked. [11:59] dconf makes me wonder what some people are smoking... [12:00] chmac: Lock screen after screen : Turns off [12:01] its simple [12:01] why so much confusion ? [12:01] zzecool: Just tried it, but it doesn't have the desired effect. [12:01] zzecool: I think it refers to the setting above, turn the screen off when inactive for X minutes. [12:02] What is the desired and what it does? [12:02] zzecool: I want the screen to lock when I close the laptop lid. It does not currently. [12:05] has anyone else had virtual desktop keybindings disappear with the latest update? [12:06] mortal: You mean ctrl-alt-left/right/etc? If so, yes. [12:06] chmac: i think the suspend is broken [12:06] zzecool: I don't want my machine to suspend when I close the lid. [12:07] How do I find out (command line) whether a package was installed manually or as a dependency? [12:07] then there is no feature that can make what you asking [12:07] you can file a bug [12:07] as a wish [12:07] and explain what you want as a behaviour [12:07] zzecool: Ok, thanks for your input. [12:07] mortal: They werer moved, no? [12:08] mortal: super+shift+arrows [12:08] chmac: go and fill the bug report because noon will do it for you [12:08] nooone* [12:08] thank you [12:10] I have also lost the network-manager icon [12:11] * arand wonders if the keybind change will be the "omg-wtf-revert!!!-ubuntu-is-stupid" of this release ;) [12:12] arand: What's the new keybind? [12:12] chmac: ^ I just said it :) [12:12] arand: Oh yes, so you did! :-) [12:12] Oh, that's a much better default. [12:14] Anyone else have openid issues logging into launchpad? Regularly fails for me and I can never remember exactly how I got it to work previously. [12:21] zzecool: The bug exists already https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/871047 [12:21] Launchpad bug 871047 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Can no longer set screen to lock when lid closed" [Undecided,Confirmed] [12:21] ok i will confirm it [12:21] :) [12:21] as affects me [12:22] Sweet [12:23] zzecool: Likely something that could use forwarding upstream to gnome [12:24] it is confirmed hope that it is going to get any attention [13:00] chromium seems to be getting a bit touchy for me in PP; a few attempts to start, a few hangs - anyone else seeing this? [13:01] i think it is just you ma'am penguin42 [13:03] damn; going to be hard to debug and impossible to report given it's non-repeatable [13:03] what exactly is happening? [13:04] jokerdino: I've had a few times clicked the button on the panel and it doesn't come up; click again a minute later and it starts [13:05] jokerdino: But today I've also had a few crashes on simple stuff like G+ and google reader, page opening empty and other pages not responding to clicks [13:06] oh dear, it is awesome as ever before here. [13:06] BRB [13:07] penguin42: start it from terminal, and watch the error output in terminal. [13:07] brobostigon: Indeed, and of course having done that it worked [13:08] penguin42: hmmm, interesting. [13:08] bit of a heisenbug [13:55] I remapped show first menuitem from F10 to F12 in ccsm and I have also unchecked "enable menu shortcut key" in terminal but when I press F10 now it brings up the same menu I get when pressing right mouse key. How can I disable/change that? I'm using F10 to get the quit dialog in mc [14:48] anyone know what package supplies the dictionaries? I found a bug - it doesn't know what "Pangolin" is... [14:52] the irony... [14:53] i know right? [14:53] !aspell [14:53] !info aspell [14:54] aspell (source: aspell): GNU Aspell spell-checker. In component main, is optional. Version 0.60.7~20110707-1 (precise), package size 87 kB, installed size 360 kB === glosoli_ is now known as glosoli [18:10] I just opened chromium and got a system crash.. It says "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has expereinced an internal error. It gives me a check box for send an error report, a button for show details and a continue button.. One problem, my mouse stops working after this crash.. The Caps lock and scroll lock buttons on my keyboard are now flashing.. any ideas? [18:10] cjohnston: If capslock/scroll lock are flashing it's probably a kernel panic - you need to hit reset [18:11] penguin42: I did that the first time, and it did it again.. is there anything i can do to get rid of this? [18:12] other than wait for an update? [18:13] cjohnston: it's most likely a graphics driver issue (although chromium is getting touchy for me as well and I'm not seeing a kernel panic) [18:15] cjohnston: It's interesting it manages to display the crash box before it dies - there is a small chance there are actually some logs in /var/log/syslog after reboot [18:17] glosoli: you here? [18:17] penguin42: is there something i can search for it in to try and find? [18:19] well it would be a back trace I'd be looking for - just before the last boot [18:19] penguin42: I just found BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffffffff81176800 [18:19] cjohnston: Ah, can you pastebin it? [18:20] penguin42: its on the current boot, not the last one... [18:20] but still an issue [18:20] http://paste.ubuntu.com/856818/ [18:21] zzecool: yea [18:21] cjohnston: Hmm that shouldn't happen [18:22] glosoli: i had constant crashes on google chrome unstable [18:22] zzecool: I'm not, just for nautilus.... [18:22] but i did delete .config/google-chrome and did a reinstall [18:22] penguin42: I also found http://paste.ubuntu.com/856826/ [18:23] im ok now [18:23] zzecool: my nautilus constantly crash [18:23] rly? [18:23] np here [18:23] works great [18:24] i had some dash lock ups [18:24] looked like working but you cant run any app [18:24] only navigate [18:24] log out log in is a fix [18:29] cjohnston: Don't worry - probably separate bug [18:30] friggin smuxi.... [18:30] disconnected me once again [18:31] penguin42: so do i need to report two seperate bugs? [18:35] cjohnston: Yep, looks like it [18:35] what should I file them against? just ubuntu? [18:36] cjohnston: use ubuntu-bug linux for both of them [18:36] ok === codepal_ is now known as codepal [18:41] penguin42: that went over very poorly for me.. I'm now at the login screen [18:42] cjohnston: It sounds like lots of random stuff is failing for you - I'd run a ramtest [18:42] how do i do that [18:43] moin, i have a problem..... [18:44] when i leave my Laptop for a while, it cant wake up again [18:44] the screen just stay black [18:44] CTRL + ALT + F1 has no reaction [18:45] only with CTRL + ALT + PRINT + U +X (Kernel Shutdown) i can shutdown [18:49] any suggestions? [18:51] any ideas how I could run unity2d from livecd? when I try to change users, lightdm gets stuck in a restart loop [18:51] I think there was some way to simulate lightdm from within another session [18:55] ironhalik: xnest or xephyr? [19:12] I think it will be easier to just install it :) [19:17] hmm, where is a samba share mounted? [19:17] if I accessed it via nautilus [19:17] ironhalik: under /media likely [19:17] actually, its not there [19:17] neither in /mnt [19:19] ironhalik: doesn't it show in mtab? [19:20] nope [19:20] nvm, I mounted it manually [19:28] with the test rebuild me everyone who has precise will have to downlaod everything over again? [19:28] scientes: Nope, the rebuild is done in a seperate archive. [19:29] scientes: You have to only download packages that failed in the rebuild and got a new upload to fix the failure. [19:29] will there be a rebuild in the main archive down the road? [19:29] scientes: No, this is never done. [19:29] ok thx [19:29] so all i loose is stability bug-wise :) [19:30] ''This is still a BETA release.'' [19:30] already says BETA [19:31] cjohnston: Reboot, hold left shift down as it comes past the bios, you should get a grub menu and on that menu is a memtest, leave it at the memtest for a few hours and see if it gives any errors === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [19:43] cjohnston, at least the recent memtests will tell you on the screen after a full pass has completed without errors === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [19:52] are delta-debs going to come any time soon? [19:52] i.e. presto [19:54] scientes: A debdelta server for the ubuntu repo? THere isn't one yet? [19:54] all the test-rebuild is so that people don't run into problems when they download the source and build their own [19:54] arand, ubuntu brainstorm said it was in development [19:54] presto for ubuntu [20:02] hi [20:02] who uses the 1204 [20:08] most here [20:19] when I dig host the query time is always 0 even when I restart dnsmasq, how can i make sure that dnsmasq is working fine? [20:22] outbox, you running a actual release or 12.04? [20:22] penguin42: maybe you will know - whe the hell Ubuntu didnt go with Precise Penguin with 12.04?! [20:23] urfr332gO, yes [20:23] outbox, yes meaning 12.04? [20:24] ironhalik: I don't know! Precise Penguin Provides Perfect Peudonym [20:24] ironhalik: Personally I blame big Mark [20:24] urfr332gO, it is [20:24] outbox, cool, you in the right place. :) [20:24] if he keeps it up, we gonna have to do something about big mark ;> [20:25] anyone actually had dnsmasq installed by default? [20:25] oh nvm, I probably had it, it just wasnt caching [20:25] ironhalik: It seems dnsmasq is now a default in PP [20:26] yes it is [20:26] its was a description in one bluprint asswel [20:26] as well* [20:26] ;p [20:26] so how can i uninstall dnsmasq as network-manager depends on it [20:26] installing dnsmasq by default now? [20:27] that sounds like a good move [20:27] its a great piece of software [20:27] scientes: do you know any way to make dnsmsq to forward the resolvs to another dns ? [20:28] i was trying to find a way to have dnsmsq + dnscrypt work together in different ips [20:28] but i cant find any way to forward the dns resolves [20:28] zzecool, dnsmasq just uses resolv.conf [20:28] unless you give it another resolv.conf [20:28] hmm [20:29] you can also set dns server on a domain basis [20:29] like to force ipv6 resolving for google [20:29] or maybe they make that the default now, not sure [20:29] just man dnsmasq, its well documented [20:29] i think that whatever i put in resolv.conf resets back to 127.0.0.1 where dnsmaq is listening [20:29] ahhh gotcha [20:30] thats a dhcp problem [20:30] but its probably not 127.0.0.1 but your external ip address [20:30] zzecool, you can use package resolveconf to keep your resolve.conf settings permanenly [20:30] zzecool: Yeh, there is now a config file that dnsmasq reads instead - and it's all driven by network manager [20:30] ^^^ [20:31] i know all this [20:31] dnsmasq in ubuntu i guess uses an alternate resolv.conf [20:31] every single one dns server - cache have an option to only cache and forward the resolves to another server [20:31] i cant find this feature to dnsmasq [20:31] zzecool, and that is exactly what dnsmasq does by default [20:32] so you don't even have to configure it [20:33] scientes: let me explain [20:33] i have 2 dns servers running on my pc [20:33] zzecool, just set the alternate resolv.confr by hand [20:33] and then put the ips you want to forward to inthere [20:33] confr ? [20:34] you can tell dnsmasq which resolv.conf to use in dnsmasq.conf [20:34] but network manager use his config [20:34] every time dnsmasq starts [20:34] let me show you [20:35] type : ps aux | grep dnsmasq [20:36] you will see the config [20:36] well im using oneric [20:36] hope the upgrade to precise doesn't f it up for me [20:36] cause i use dnsmasq for alot of stuff [20:36] like tftp [20:37] wait i will show you [20:37] scientes: http://pastebin.com/eYbxVpVh [20:38] this is by default [20:38] so its allrdy a mess [20:38] oh geeze [20:38] that ubuntu for you (did i say that!) [20:39] if they are going to do something ugly like that they should listen on a non-default port [20:39] it gonna be for you too ;p [20:39] or just on lo [20:39] so it doesn [20:39] its on lo [20:39] 't conflict with running your own dns server [20:39] but on the default port [20:39] on the real port [20:39] no, its not on lo [20:39] my second dns is running on 127.0.0.2 so i dont have a conflict [20:39] its on 127.0.0.1 [20:39] there is a difference [20:39] but i cant redirect form dnsmasq to the second [20:40] thats a fucking mess [20:40] i told ya [20:40] shit, and the precise upgrade already started [20:40] lol [20:40] that will fuck my shit up [20:41] scientes: While it may indeed be, they prefer less language in this channel [20:41] i was testing DNSCrypt form opendns [20:41] its very cool [20:41] oh sorry penguin42 [20:41] but doesnt give a shit about local dns names [20:41] so you need a second dns [20:41] ;/ [20:41] hmm, I guess I can enable dnsmasq caching function? [20:41] ironhalik: i dont know [20:42] huh [20:42] it is suppose that the implement dnsmasq for cache but the config is strange [20:42] i dont get it [20:42] that they * [20:43] nevermind gonna watch some series ;p c ya [20:43] hf :> [20:43] ty [20:44] if you have any news about dnsmasq give me a notice when you see me again :) [20:51] hmm - is it possible to run a dns server on a port other than 53 and resolv.conf pick it up? And would it make sense for nm to do that to cause less chaos? [20:52] hmm doesn't look like resolv.conf supports a port [20:54] is this a ubuntu change or an upstream change? [20:54] dnsmasq supports a config directory, ie /etc/dnsmasq.d/ [20:54] then network manager could split out the DHCP, TFTP, stuff [20:55] hmm, Ive got no dnsmasq confs in etc [20:55] and ship a differn't default dns config for dnsmasq that only listens locally [20:55] ironhalik, /etc/dnsmasq.conf [20:55] the directory is not shipped currently [20:56] nope, no conf [20:56] but dovecot for example changed from one big, to a directory style [20:56] and no service, either [20:56] oh, well i havn't confirmed that [20:56] scientes: Looks like it's Ubuntu - based off: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-p-dns-resolving [20:56] well, should it have an init script? [20:58] hmm, on the other hand, maybe those changes make my openvpn work on 12.04 and not work in arch [21:05] nice one jo-erlend [21:05] Ian_Corne? [21:05] https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg08073.html [21:06] did he reply? [21:06] oh, that discussion went way too far. [21:07] I'm pretty sure he doesn't have much supporters of his views [21:07] I don't think anybody bothered to see what the application is really about. It's a nearly defunct photo album/video catalog. Has absolutely nothing to do with pornography. [21:08] yeah [21:08] if people are so sensitive that a mere word is enough to cause mental damage, then ... what can we do? There's got to be a limit. [21:09] indeed [21:09] heh, you could, for instance say that fsck should be banned, because it could easily be mistyped into spelling an extremely horrible word. :) [21:09] but I too went way too far in the discussion, and I'm trying to put it behind me. I don't usually react so strongly, and I shouldn't have. [21:12] hmm, Ubuntu tries to hit buisness market now, and such large and open repos could offset some corporate minds [21:13] ofcourse, you can install apps like that in Windows [21:13] but for some, of its in the software center, its built right into the operating system! portn operating system! [21:14] still, its much lesser evil/inconvinience then censoring everything [21:14] so nvm [21:22] ironhalik, "apps like that"? You mean photo albums? [21:22] yeah, thats silly :) [21:23] photo albums named 'PronViewer' and using a blond, 80s style, pixelated chick as its icon [21:23] What about "Xchat"? Does that sound a little suspicious as well? [21:24] less then BitchX :P [21:24] Its not about rational arguments, its about corporate mind [21:24] at least as I see it [21:25] no, it was about religion. It was claimed that Ubuntu should be considered a completely Christian operating system, and therefore anything not Christian must be removed. [21:26] oh, I didnt think about it in that categories ;> [21:26] but just like that discussion was inappropriate on the design list, this discussion is really inappropriate here, I think. [21:26] true [21:31] either way, I think the issue of operating system and religion conformity is silly enough it may be ignored :) [21:31] ironhalik, gee golly wally were you not the one to complain about vapid posts yesterday. :) [21:32] I was? :) [21:33] ironhalik, if you're reading through that list, however, you may find the posts from Ryan Gauger somewhat amusing... [21:33] I dont recall [21:33] it was you but no biggie. :) [21:33] jo-erlend: I tried but it times out on me for some reason [21:34] urfr332gO: I really dont remember :) And since I dont visit the forums or lists, I dont know how its possible :) [21:35] ironhalik, T 1330120503 8 28 ironhalik thats a lot of pointless discussion '? [21:36] from scrollback [21:36] oh that wasnt about a post :P [21:36] that was about a discussion here [21:36] ironhalik, about my discussion with another. [21:36] ironhalik, do you get the point your now is no different. [21:37] yours [21:37] it was tangue-in-cheek, since I didnt participate much [21:37] ironhalik, I don't really care by the way just pointing this out. :) [21:38] we all talk and say things off topic, most of us realize this and try to keep it shor. [21:38] I guess you're right - discussing the state of gaming and graphic performance in linux, in comparision with windows is almost religious in nature and should be ignored :P [21:38] short [21:39] oh [21:39] well, since there is no other chatter here [21:39] go for it I say. :) [21:39] ;> [21:40] hmm, Im even idling in #ubuntu-offtopic [21:40] But people there are talking about frozen pizza :/ [21:41] ironhalik, I never go there it is like a good old boys club with generally user with no critical thinking abilities, but that is just my opinion. :) [21:41] users [21:42] Well, if you "love frozen pizza", you seriously lack critical thinking abilities :) [21:43] ironhalik, lol that is about the jist of it, and while eating it in your parents basement, "mommie" [21:43] and I think he ment frozen as in not-yet-thawed [21:43] lol [21:44] Thats cruel :> I think most Ubuntu users moved out of their parents basement ;> [21:47] I think I know someone that lives with his parents attic actually, and his an avid Windows Sever 2003 user :) [21:48] ironhalik, may have moved out but the mentality sticks. :) It is a metaphor [21:49] Sure, just kidding around ;> [21:49]