| AlanBell | http://askubuntu.com/questions/107442/orca-screen-reader/107473#107473 yay I did a thing on askubuntu to correct some fantasically crap advice that someone was given there | 00:00 |
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| gord | i've only one experience with ask ubuntu, and that is that i have an rss feed from it in my google homepage. whenever i see a question i can answer i go there to find someone else has done a good job of answering it anyway. | 00:02 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| * popey votes AlanBell up | 00:11 | |
| AlanBell | somehow I have a reputation of 137, without actually thinking I use askubuntu at all | 00:12 |
| penguin42 | AlanBell: You sure your chickens aren't doing stuff while you're out? | 00:14 |
| AlanBell | that is probably it | 00:14 |
| jpds | They're probably crossing the road. | 00:14 |
| Azelphur | Does anyone know how to force an upgrade on a package to a version available in a newer ubuntu release? | 02:36 |
| Azelphur | also, does anyone know what to do in order to point out that the version of the application in the repo is actually, 100% broken and needs to be updated | 02:37 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jono Bacon] Calling All Twisted Daemon Experts - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/02/25/calling-all-twisted-daemon-experts/ | 05:13 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: use a backport, or add the new ubuntu version to sources.list and pin it (apt pinning is your google keyword here), then apt-get install pkg=version | 05:58 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: and "file a bug" | 05:58 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| jacobw | morning ubunteros | 10:33 |
| AlanBell | morning | 10:33 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 10:38 |
| dwatkins | hiya folks | 10:39 |
| brobostigon | hi dwatkins | 10:40 |
| dwatkins | I forgot to log in to my Ubuntu machine, that makes using x11vnc a little difficult... | 10:40 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | popey: ping | 10:45 |
| KrimZon | I once set up xrdp on a machine to remote into it - it would create a new x session for each login | 10:48 |
| daubers | Morning | 11:03 |
| AlanBell | anyone got a Samsung Galaxy Y (or other budget smartphone suggestion) | 11:13 |
| directhex | how budget is budget? | 11:14 |
| AlanBell | £15/month preferably free handset | 11:14 |
| directhex | various low-end galaxies exist at that price point | 11:16 |
| directhex | acer liquid express from orange? | 11:17 |
| directhex | or from tmobile with moare data | 11:19 |
| directhex | xperia neo v? htc wildfire s? | 11:19 |
| directhex | couple of LGs from O2 at that rate, or a refurb galaxy s2 for £60 | 11:20 |
| AlanBell | thanks | 11:23 |
| AlanBell | where is the refurb s2? | 11:23 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | AlanBell: Wifey has the Galaxy Ace and is happy with it. | 11:29 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Got it from CPW | 11:29 |
| AlanBell | that is a possibility | 11:29 |
| AlanBell | http://shop.o2.co.uk/mobile_phone/pay_monthly/24_months/100MB/BlackBerry/Torch%209860 this looks like a good deal. Not Android, but quite cheap for a decent phone I think | 11:29 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | anyone got a init script to start/stop a minecraft server? Am trying this one but it aint working and no logs: https://github.com/Ahtenus/minecraft-init | 11:36 |
| jacobw | obvious question, doesn't minecraft-server provide its own init scripts? | 11:37 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | jacobw: if it did do you not think I would have tried it? | 11:37 |
| jacobw | i'm just kind of suprised it dosen't | 11:39 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | it's just a jar | 11:40 |
| jacobw | i realise that might be annoying ;) | 11:40 |
| jacobw | i can't see any logging stuff in the code | 11:41 |
| jacobw | have you done all this stuff https://github.com/Ahtenus/minecraft-init/blob/master/readme.markdown | 11:43 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | found a different script that seems to work: https://github.com/ajoberstar/minecraft-init | 12:00 |
| jacobw | awesome :) | 12:00 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | My son is now a happy chap. | 12:01 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Anyone know any friendly Swedes who could spare my wife an hr? (or even a Norwegian might do it? eh christel_ ;-) ) https://twitter.com/#!/opensourcerer/status/173380412868001792 | 12:16 |
| jacobw | translation? | 12:27 |
| czajkowski | TheOpenSourcerer: drop her a mail her mum is visiting so she's not on irc | 12:29 |
| popey | TheOpenSourcerer: pong | 12:59 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Hi popey Was going to ask about minecraft servers and OpenJDK but it seems to be running fine :-) I have a happy son whose is sending out an IP address to his mates. | 13:18 |
| === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum | ||
| popey | excellent | 13:20 |
| daubers | Urgh, covered in roof tile dust now | 14:30 |
| cliftonts | what are you up to daubers? | 14:32 |
| daubers | cliftonts: Running cables through the roof at the hackspace | 14:32 |
| cliftonts | aah right | 14:32 |
| daubers | And screaming at the router | 14:32 |
| daubers | no-one seems to have the password for it :) | 14:32 |
| cliftonts | lol | 14:33 |
| cliftonts | daubers: well the Tottenham Court Road computer fair is DEAD today! | 14:37 |
| * daubers closes up the hackspace | 14:58 | |
| AlanBell | afternoon all | 17:09 |
| * AlanBell has been out hat shopping | 17:09 | |
| MartijnVdS | Top hat? Bowler hat? | 17:18 |
| brobostigon | deer stalker? | 17:18 |
| penguin42 | thing with bells | 17:18 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: one of those jester hats you mean? :) | 17:18 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: Yeh | 17:18 |
| * penguin42 hopes AlanBell hasn't been buying a Fedora | 17:19 | |
| MartijnVdS | Maybe a cowboy hat | 17:19 |
| MartijnVdS | or a sombrero | 17:19 |
| AlanBell | http://www.orvis.co.uk/store/product.aspx?pf_id=7910&dir_id=466&group_id=10625&cat_id=11585&subcat_id=11586 | 17:19 |
| AlanBell | mine is black which isn't shown on the website | 17:22 |
| penguin42 | Gah! He has bought a Fedora! | 17:23 |
| AlanBell | it isn't red | 17:23 |
| penguin42 | true | 17:23 |
| AlanBell | they didn't have one in #dd4814 | 17:24 |
| penguin42 | that would be pretty special | 17:26 |
| brobostigon | wales 12 : 12 eng. | 17:30 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: what train are you getting to Reading? | 17:35 |
| brobostigon | wales 19 : 12 eng. wales are doing pretty well, really. | 17:37 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: aiming to be there for 12:30 | 17:41 |
| czajkowski | how about you | 17:42 |
| MartijnVdS | Heh, Picasa's face detector + pictures from a family reunion = confusion all around | 17:42 |
| MartijnVdS | it's tagging 2 aunts as 1 person, and 3 nieces as 1 person :) | 17:42 |
| gordonjcp | hehe | 17:43 |
| brobostigon | lol | 17:46 |
| MartijnVdS | Well they do look alike (as they're family), but still.. :) | 17:46 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: well I have car so can do any time really, I can meet you at the station perhaps | 17:47 |
| AlanBell | I will be the one in a hat | 17:48 |
| czajkowski | sure | 17:49 |
| czajkowski | dont know where the train staion is in relation to the stadium? | 17:50 |
| MartijnVdS | czajkowski: Check google maps ;) | 17:50 |
| czajkowski | MartijnVdS: you dont say ;) | 17:52 |
| czajkowski | was more of a passing comment | 17:52 |
| MartijnVdS | :) | 17:52 |
| AlanBell | more than a walk | 17:52 |
| MartijnVdS | Wonder of our age, that | 17:52 |
| AlanBell | there are probably buses or some kind of organised way to get there, but I have a car and free parking | 17:52 |
| AlanBell | though last time czajkowski got in my car I had to scrap it the next day | 17:55 |
| gordonjcp | o_O | 17:56 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: hah forgot about that | 17:58 |
| gordonjcp | sounds like a story worth the telling... | 17:59 |
| === christel_ is now known as christel | ||
| * daubers makes cake | 18:01 | |
| christel | mmmcake | 18:03 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ cake | 18:03 |
| penguin42 | typeof(cake) ? | 18:03 |
| MartijnVdS | sizeof(cake) ? | 18:04 |
| daubers | typeof(cake) = victoria_sponge; sizeof(cake)=20cm; | 18:05 |
| daubers | or should that be (cm) 20 | 18:05 |
| daubers | Hmmm... | 18:05 |
| penguin42 | cake.jam=strawberry ? | 18:05 |
| gordonjcp | cake.jam = bramble | 18:06 |
| daubers | strawberry \o/ | 18:06 |
| penguin42 | daubers: Yeh! | 18:06 |
| daubers | coops finest :) | 18:07 |
| * penguin42 wonders if cake[0] is the top or bottom cake - but I guess there could be wars about that | 18:07 | |
| dwatkins_ | cake wars | 18:08 |
| === dwatkins_ is now known as dwatkins | ||
| daubers | I love the smell of baking in the evening, smells like victory. | 18:08 |
| penguin42 | well, going to bed on a slice of victoria sponge with the smell of warm cake must make for nice dreams | 18:09 |
| dwatkins | gooey dreams | 18:10 |
| brobostigon | !info chromium-browser precise | 18:12 |
| lubotu3 | chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 17.0.963.56~r121963-0ubuntu3 (precise), package size 19705 kB, installed size 72030 kB (Only available for any all) | 18:12 |
| ali1234 | has anyone seen this 7 page article about raspberry pi in linux format? | 18:48 |
| ali1234 | i'm wondering how they stretched it out to 7 pages | 18:48 |
| ali1234 | i mean that's about 50% of the magazine | 18:48 |
| Azelphur | because it's the raspberry pi, it should time travel and take every page of every linux format magazine ever. | 18:50 |
| Azelphur | \o/ | 18:50 |
| jacobw | evening | 19:16 |
| daubers | o/ | 19:18 |
| jacobw | how is precise right now? | 19:24 |
| AlanBell | rather fine | 19:26 |
| * jacobw checks schedule | 19:27 | |
| * daubers puts the kettle on, loads up episode one of BSG and get's his warhammer paints out | 19:29 | |
| penguin42 | jacobw: Kprecise isn't too bad - chromium is being a bit touchy for me, other than that all good | 19:31 |
| jacobw | kubuntu? | 19:32 |
| jacobw | i've given up on kde after a few years of advocacy and a few more years of waiting for 4.x to reach the standard of 3.5 | 19:32 |
| jacobw | i don't care enough about gui things aren't web based anymore | 19:36 |
| penguin42 | jacobw: Yeh, I found I prefered current 4.x to the way Gnome was going | 19:39 |
| jacobw | penguin42: i'm in the small cross section of people who like both unity and gnome3 | 19:41 |
| penguin42 | each to our own hey | 19:42 |
| jacobw | :) | 19:42 |
| jacobw | things that run in the terminal or the browser > other things | 19:42 |
| dogmatic69 | adobe dropped linux for adobe air | 22:39 |
| dogmatic69 | they suck | 22:39 |
| zleap | that means bbc iplayer may stop working, | 22:40 |
| zleap | are they under some sort of pressure to do this | 22:40 |
| brobostigon | bbc iplayer requires only flash that i know of, i dont have adobe air here, and iplayer works fine. | 22:41 |
| zleap | ah | 22:42 |
| zleap | why drop support for linux, creating the software can't be that much different to creating the software for OSX | 22:43 |
| brobostigon | both are in a way unix, but there are alot of differences. | 22:43 |
| zleap | ok | 22:43 |
| brobostigon | i would say, everything in osx above basic darwin is different, but i think they even adapt and change that.from the published OSS darwin. | 22:45 |
| zleap | ok | 22:45 |
| brobostigon | but they certainly used darwin as a basis, but everything above that, i would say is different. | 22:46 |
| zleap | hmm, they could reverse that policy if the raspberry PI takes off adn can use adobe air properly | 22:46 |
| brobostigon | i dont think there is even the basic gnu toolset, in osx. | 22:47 |
| zleap | ah | 22:48 |
| zleap | its bsd based isn't it | 22:48 |
| zleap | so not gpl license | 22:48 |
| brobostigon | it must have dd though, as the basic osx haiku liveusb creation instructions mention dd being there. | 22:49 |
| brobostigon | zleap: darwin is based on nextstep, therefore bsd, yes. | 22:49 |
| zleap | ah, nextstep being the front end | 22:50 |
| brobostigon | in part, in darwin also, | 22:50 |
| zleap | i need to read up on OSX for this computer group, youth service place uses macs | 22:50 |
| brobostigon | ah. | 22:50 |
| dogmatic69 | I thought the whole point of air was to be platform independent apps | 22:51 |
| dogmatic69 | so much for that | 22:51 |
| zleap | yeah | 22:51 |
| zleap | mind you won't html5 do away with all this flash stuff too | 22:51 |
| dogmatic69 | adobe and everything they make can just go jump off a cliff | 22:51 |
| dogmatic69 | flash is dead, html5 has replaced it | 22:51 |
| zleap | exactly | 22:51 |
| dogmatic69 | air was slightly different, still bloated though | 22:52 |
| Azelphur | I'm not that great at apache configs, can anyone take a look at this and tell me how I might move it to be on a subdomain? http://collabedit.com/d6u87 | 23:07 |
| Azelphur | like, instead of being active only on /munin, I want to put it on munin.azelphur.com | 23:07 |
| shaneo1 | Does anyone else have sound from their speakers when headphones are plugged in | 23:17 |
| Azelphur | shaneo1: it's a "common" thing that happens, but it's hardware specific to fix it. | 23:17 |
| shaneo1 | I have realtek hardware built in my laptop, | 23:18 |
| Azelphur | shaneo1: the only advice I can really give is google the hardware, see if you can find any answers on ubuntuforums or askubuntu, Upgrading alsa may also help | 23:18 |
| shaneo1 | I am running the latest alsa on 12.04 | 23:19 |
| Azelphur | did it happen on 11.10? | 23:19 |
| shaneo1 | no | 23:19 |
| Azelphur | file a bug | 23:19 |
| shaneo1 | ok thanks | 23:19 |
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