[00:00] <humungulous> const_antine: nmap can do it but i couldnt tell you the syntax offhand
[00:00] <trakinas> humungulous, alright. will try that. in fact, I just want to test a pair of memories I bought today that look like they are deffected ones. random freezes and reboots on system. And that does not happen with my other two pairs.
[00:00] <Chipzzz> const_antine: can you access the router's admin interface?
[00:00] <humungulous> trakinas: report back
[00:00] <Jordan_U> joker2u: Can you pastebin the output of "fdisk -lu /mnt/drive1/dd-hack1-image-Ndd2-copy.dd"?
[00:00] <const_antine> Muelli: what for, ifconfig controls network interfaces on my host, not other people's hosts
[00:01] <const_antine> Chipzzz: yes, but I'd rather not
[00:01] <trakinas> humungulous, I will. I just wanted to be sure.
[00:01] <const_antine> my sneakernet is busted
[00:01] <joker2u> Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/d4ZRWdXz
[00:01] <Muelli> const_antine: it shows you "the networks you are connected to".
[00:01] <humungulous> const_antine: http://nmap.org/book/zenmap-topology.html
[00:01] <Chipzzz> const_antine: humungulous' suggestion of nmap is probably your best choice then
[00:01] <dedicated1> any quick way of checking how much space all files are taking and how much space still if free on the harddrive? ty :)
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> dedicated1: df -h
[00:01] <trakinas> gotta go. cheers all
[00:01] <dedicated1> great ^^
[00:01] <dedicated1> cheers
[00:02] <Takyoji> humungulous: So should I lower the transfer mode, or something?
[00:02] <const_antine> sweet, I'll look into nmap
[00:02] <const_antine> thank you!
[00:02] <Chipzzz> :-)
[00:02] <humungulous> Takyoji: no it was just something i was checking but its fine
[00:02] <Jordan_U> joker2u: That doesn't look right. What is the exact command you ran to give you that output?
[00:02] <humungulous> Takyoji: i really dont know whats going on with your lag
[00:03] <humungulous> Takyoji: add RAM, of course
[00:03] <joker2u> Jordan_U fdisk -lu |pastebinit
[00:03] <Takyoji> I'm a power user, but there should never be a reason for disk I/O to hold up an entire system.
[00:03] <Jordan_U> joker2u: That's not what I asked you to run.
[00:03] <humungulous> Takyoji: agreed. its definitely not right
[00:03] <Jordan_U> joker2u: Can you pastebin the output of "fdisk -lu /mnt/drive1/dd-hack1-image-Ndd2-copy.dd" ?
[00:03] <zacktu> i've just followed the instructions for booting in grub rescue mode -- all is well -- i've done a "sudo update-grub" and saw a list of my kernels -- do i need to do anything else before a restart?
[00:03] <humungulous> !grub | zacktu
[00:03] <Takyoji> The program reliant on the disk activity should freeze, but not everything.
[00:03] <Jordan_U> zacktu: Yes.
[00:03] <Muelli> Takyoji: FWIW I do have loads of problems when there is much disk i/o. That's not Ubuntu only. Seems to be a Linux problem.
[00:04] <Takyoji> Linux problem, yes; since it's across distros especially
[00:04] <humungulous> Takyoji: well, if you think of a system with too little ram hitting its commit ceiling, its going to bring the whole OS to its knees, not just one application
[00:04] <l3dmushroom> hey i am trying to make a .vob into a iso as so I can burn to dvd for playback in a dvd player what app is good for this task?
[00:04] <joker2u> Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/1WJ3vPzj
[00:04] <humungulous> Takyoji: but 700MB should be "enough"
[00:04] <Takyoji> Shall I bug people with bug reports or something?
[00:04] <Jordan_U> zacktu: update-grub just rewrites /boot/grub/grub.cfg. If you're getting a grub rescue shell then grub isn't even getting to the point where the grub.cfg is read.
[00:04] <joker2u> Jordan_U it's these transparent screens messing with my eyes, I appologize.
[00:05] <Takyoji> That's my point though, while there's the frantic swapping and I/O, it could be using 150-200MB that's being used by disk caches/buffers
[00:05] <humungulous> what processes are thrashing
[00:05] <Takyoji> It's usually kswapd (or however it's named), and then it's just completely sporadic between all applications
[00:06] <humungulous> Takyoji: have you fsck
[00:06] <Takyoji> Usually does such at boot
[00:06] <humungulous> whats size of main memory and whats size of swap
[00:06] <Jordan_U> joker2u: My guess would be that the problem is with "Partition 3 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):"
[00:07] <Jordan_U> joker2u: I think that means that something is wrong with the partition table, which is why kpartx doesn't understand it.
[00:07] <Takyoji> 1.5GB swap
[00:08] <joker2u> Jordan_U hmmmm, I have not touch anything on that drive. the image got pulled off that way. hmmm  reburn I guess.
[00:08] <Takyoji> 400MB of swap used
[00:08] <Muelli> Takyoji: LWN had a story on disk i/o performance recently: http://lwn.net/Articles/477352/
[00:08] <Takyoji> 380MB of RAM available being used by disk caches/buffers
[00:08] <joker2u> Jordan_U I saw that too but was not sure what to think. I will dd again.
[00:09] <Jordan_U> joker2u: I doubt that dding again will give a different result.
[00:09] <Takyoji> also, any reason or merit whatsoever for pretty much all distros having a swappiness of 70 or so by default?
[00:10] <humungulous> bbl kids
[00:10] <Chipzzz> cul
[00:11] <Takyoji> Also, what does swappiness truly determine? Does swappiness of 15 mean that 85% of RAM is actually used, and 15% is for disk caches/buffers?
[00:11] <joker2u> Jordan_U two weeks ago I dcfldd and image and it was perfect and I could mount it with losetup no problem. Unplugged the drive. A scan blew my puter to smithereenze, rebuilt everything and plug it in just to do another dd and now this.
[00:11] <zacktu> Jordan_U: the community insructions for GRUB 2 say that the user "may need to reinstall GRUB 2 using sudo grub-install /dev/sdX" --- should i do that now?
[00:12] <Jordan_U> zacktu: Yes. But you should also determine why you got to the rescue shell in the first place, to ensure that it doesn't happen again.
[00:14] <Jordan_U> zacktu: Did you do anything that you can think of that might have caused a probelm (like a partitioning change which might have changed partition numbers)?
[00:14] <ubuking> hi, wanna know where to find info about fstype from drive on system ( mounted and unmounted ) in /sys .. in wich directory ??
[00:14] <zacktu> Jordan_U: i had a partition that was being mounted w/ truecrypt and i deleted it -- didn't think that this would affect anything -- clearly i was wrong -- the next time i booted i got the grub rescue message
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuking: try:  sudo parted -l
[00:15] <Jordan_U> zacktu: OK. Then just grub-install should be fine.
[00:16] <ubuking> forgot to say, looking for user tricks ( )
[00:17] <ubuking> for a script
[00:17] <apache-tears> can I apt-get apache 2.4 ?
[00:17] <zacktu> Jordan_U: Thanks very much  --- i'll get my list of installed packages before rebooting just to feel safer
[00:17] <nicofs> I can't connect to the internet via my integrated mobile broadband because i am not asked to enter the pin. how can i unlock my sim?
[00:17] <Jordan_U> zacktu: You're welcome.
[00:19] <apache-tears> hi, can I apt-get apache 2.4?  I'm using LTS 10.04 ...
[00:19] <ubuking> "lsblk -f "  should give me that info ... .but it need admin right too
[00:20] <MaxHr_> Hello, recently installed lubunut and xfce alongside ubuntu, then decided to remove them, now the computer no longer finishes booting...
[00:21] <MaxHr_> it gets stuck stopping and stopping anac(h)ronistic chron... how can I fix this, besides reinstalling?  I was able to get a seperate x session started manually, which I am using now
[00:22] <DaniG2k> guys whats the ubuntu channel for 12.04?
[00:22] <CFHowlett> !precise|danig2k
[00:22] <Daekdroom> !precise | DaniG2k
[00:23] <PhateSudoStartX6> register startxphate666.667@hushmail.com
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> !register | PhateSudoStartX6
[00:28] <nicofs> I can't connect to the internet via my integrated mobile broadband because i am not asked to enter the pin. how can i unlock my sim?
[00:28] <zhuang> Does anyone use WMFS with Ubuntu 11.10
[00:32] <Urchin> how do I get rid of framebuffer in 10.04?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549245
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/675039
[00:36] <allu2> how can i exclude all hidden directories from find?
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> allu2: pipe the result into:    grep -v '^.'
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> hmm, may not work
[00:37] <zhuang> Does anyone use the AWESOME window manager?
[00:37] <zacktu> Jordan_U: i did a grub-install and it says it found /boot/grub and installed without errors -- then wants me to confirm about /dev/fd0 and /dev/hda -- anything to do here?
[00:37] <jrib> zhuang: best to just ask your actual question
[00:37] <bonesTdog> Question for the crowd. Which is lighter on CPU demands - PCBSD w/Fluxbox or Lubuntu? I have a AMD Athlon 1.67 w/1G memory.
[00:37] <Jordan_U> zacktu: What is the exact command you ran, and what is the exact output?
[00:38] <Guest32138> pcbsd works best with kde
[00:38] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, thanks so far - this solves connecting... but if i don't want to connect to the internet via nm and just access the sim via something else (wammu) that won't help unless i connect to unlock and then disconnect... is there no way to "force the pin onto the sim"?
[00:38] <allu2> ActionParsnip: hum, if i give tar list of files and give parametre --exclude=".*" would it exclude all the hidden directories from the list?
[00:38] <bonesTdog> kde requires more CPU power though?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> allu2: try it
[00:39] <allu2> ^^
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: not something I use dude, sorry
[00:40] <Guest32138> yes, but pcbsd is new in the other window managers. kde allows more when installing from the ports collection.
[00:40] <the-gibson> anyone know of a good all in one printer that is well supported in ubuntu?
[00:40] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, never mind, i'll ask the community...
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> bonesTdog: fluxbox doesn't technically need a DE underneath. Lubuntu runs openbox and LXDE under
[00:41] <nicofs> I want to send an SMS using wammu and my integrated 3g modem - but my sim is still locked. how can i unlock it with my pin?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> bonesTdog: install ubuntu minimal and then install fluxbox and it will be super light
[00:42] <bonesTdog> OK thanks. I will give that a try. PCBSD still lags in response time and I am hoping to speed things up.
[00:42] <banders> IRC-Hispano
[00:42] <the-gibson> anyone?
[00:42] <bonesTdog> Thanks for the help ActionParsnip
[00:42] <ShermanBoyd> anyone using apache 2.4 on ubuntu 10.04 LTS? Can I use apt-get or do I need to compile it?
[00:42] <Guest32138> perhaps. i tried the release candidates installing in the flashdrive. kde worked the best. in fact i am using the 8.2 version.
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | ShermanBoyd maybe there is a ppa there
[00:43] <Muelli> nicofs: well. the hackers approach is to open /dev/ttyUSB0 and enter your PIN using AT commands
[00:43] <L3top> sherman apt-cache policy apache2
[00:44] <L3top> nm follow their advice
[00:44] <Urchin> ShermanBoyd: no, apache 2.2 is on 10.04
[00:44] <l3dmushroom> I made a .vob from a app now i would like to make it into a iso as to burn to dvd what app would i need to do this
[00:44] <nicofs> Muelli, how exactly do i "open" /dev/ttyACM0 (that's the device in my case)?
[00:45] <Muelli> nicofs: you can use screen or minicom
[00:45] <Tigerboy> I think I'm going to stick with aptitude with Ubuntu 11.10. So many package problems especially with the very newest GPU/CPU systems
[00:45] <malkauns> why has my ctrl key stopped working?
[00:45] <ShermanBoyd> thanks guys
[00:46] <Jordan_U> zacktu: Did you see my question?
[00:46] <nicofs> Muelli, why  is "unlock sim" not a part of nm? it's quite a basic function in my mind...
[00:46] <Muelli> nicofs: it is. It works fine for me.
[00:46] <nicofs> Muelli, where is it? i don't see it...
[00:46] <grkblood> join #openvpc
[00:46] <grkblood> join #openvpn
[00:46] <kmicinski> This is possibly completely off topic, but is the fact that caps lock won't "stick" after a while a sw or hardware thing?
[00:46] <FloodBot1> grkblood: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:46] <Muelli> nicofs: dunno. You might want to check your logs.
[00:48] <nicofs> Muelli, logs of what exactly? me booting and not being asked to enter the pin...?
[00:48] <Muelli> nicofs: networkmanager logs. Or better: modemmanager.
[00:49] <Muelli> nicofs: in fact, I have an issue with ModemManager. It requires me to kill it and replug my USB dongle. So yeah, it's probably a bit buggy.
[00:50] <Guest70110> Hi, how do I show the passphrase for an encrypted partition, please? (I have the password)
[00:50] <nicofs> Even connecting to the internet doesn't work anymore...
[00:52] <allu2> how i can exclude hidden folders with tar?
[00:52] <DaZ> allu2: * omits hidden folders by default
[00:53] <DaZ> dunno how exactly you're trying to tar it :x
[00:54] <allu2> :S
[00:54] <EMPHASISS> Hi, how do I show the passphrase for an encrypted partition, please? (I have the password) (I found out how for an encrypted *directory* OK)
[00:55] <Muelli> allu2: well. it's a bit complicated and other tars behave differently than the GNU tar. You could try --exclude='.*'. But I'd probably go with smth like tar cf foo.tar $(find . | grep -v './.') or the like
[00:55] <Chopsie> Hello, I am looking for chat assistance with a machine that cannot run Ubuntu.
[00:55] <Muelli> EMPHASISS: "echo $yourpassword" will tell you your password...
[00:57] <sparktheword> Hi, I was wondering were to go to see my system information(something like my computer in windows)
[00:57] <Muelli> !info sysinfo | sparktheword
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> sparktheword: what do you want to know?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> sparktheword: you can install lshw-gtk  and see your hardware....
[00:58] <Tigerboy> Guest70110: ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[00:59] <sparktheword> alright thanks
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> sparktheword: is that all you wanted?
[00:59] <Tigerboy> Guest70110: when prompted just type your user password it will then show the passphrase
[01:00] <sparktheword>  yeah for now thank you
[01:00] <Chopsie> I've done a little bit of research, and I know I need drivers, but I need to know how to find the drivers I need. Could someone please help?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> Chopsie: drivers for what??
[01:01] <Chopsie> An old PC.
[01:01] <Chopsie> Network driver, in particular.
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> Chopsie: ok what chip does it use?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> Chopsie: the network chip.....
[01:02] <EMPHASISS> Tigerboy: that is for my home dir, what about a _partition_?
[01:03] <Chopsie> ActionParsnip: That's the problem, I wasn't the one who built it. I am unaware of what chip. Let me look around and figure out if I can find the info I require via CMOS. Unless you could tell me how to boot into safe-mode (windows term, might cross over, dunno.)
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Chopsie: sudo lshw -C network     will tell you the chip
[01:04] <Chopsie> I am unable to open the command prompt function.
[01:05] <totle> I have been having these issues with antialiasing ever since unity came to light. I'm running an ATI card. Is this a know issue? I thought it was and I decided to wait but I'm still having this problem. Am I missing something? Thanks.
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Chopsie: press CTRL+ALT+T
[01:06] <bluezone> i'm experiencing video tearing and when i enable ati's "tear free desktop" option, it only lags the film and makes it worse, any ideas?
[01:06] <Chopsie> ActionParsnip: I recieve an error. I'll message it to you to cut down on spam.
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> Chopsie: np
[01:06] <EMPHASISS> Muelli: I can't make sense of "echo $yourpassword" ... $yourpassword or my password, or anything remotely like it, is not a bash variable.
[01:06] <gogeta> bluezone: does not enabling it fix it
[01:07] <_cb>  /msg NickServ identify <
[01:07] <_cb>  /msg NickServ identify cali
[01:07] <bluezone> gogeta, no, it makes the video lag an extreme amount if it's in fullscreen
[01:07] <Muelli> EMPHASISS: well. sorry, but I can't make sense out of your question.
[01:07] <allu2> didn't deja dup use to support encryption?
[01:07] <gogeta> bluezone: it sounds like a conflict with the gl rendering
[01:07] <Muelli> EMPHASISS: what is a "partition password"? on the block layer? i.e. dm-crypt?
[01:07] <bluezone> gogeta, gl?
[01:08] <gogeta> bluezone: yea those 3d effects are open gl and its also used to acell video
[01:08] <bluezone> hmm so what do i do? xD
[01:08] <gogeta> bluezone: ati has never played nice with desktop effects
[01:08] <bluezone> lol
[01:09] <gogeta> bluezone: try running compiz 2d see if the videos work
[01:09] <EMPHASISS> Muelli: sorry - I want to show my passphrase for a mounted encrypted partition - built the system 8 months ago, have left my wife, and don't have access to my old paper folder where I wrote all these down. I have the password, (coz I can mount it) not the passphrase.
[01:09] <gogeta> bluezone: sorry i ment unity 2d
[01:10] <Muelli> EMPHASISS: I seriously don't understand your problem. What is the difference between a passphrase and a password and why do you have a problem at all? you can mount, no? So you're set...
[01:10] <bluezone> gogeta, well right now i'm running gnome classic
[01:11] <EMPHASISS> Muelli: password is like FredNurka, passphrase is like djdid83w7jhd88f8dsffdsud8f
[01:11] <bluezone> gogeta, isn't it the same difference? i dont think there's any effects on classic
[01:11] <gogeta> bluezone: ok then turn off desktop effects
[01:11] <bluezone> hmk
[01:11] <gogeta> bluezone: yea it has them
[01:11] <allu2> does deja dup encrypt backups automaticly?
[01:12] <Muelli> EMPHASISS: still doesn't make any sense to me. What do you want to achieve besides mounting your partition (which you haven't stated the technology you encrypted it with)?
[01:12] <bluezone> gogeta, such a shame because i have a high end video card xD
[01:12] <gogeta> bluezone: the card works fine and will do high end stuf
[01:12] <gogeta> bluezone: its just that firegl conflicts with unitys gl and slows things down
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: what card is it?
[01:13] <gogeta> bluezone: at least the newer cards for some reasion
[01:13] <bluezone> ActionParsnip, one sec
[01:14] <bluezone> ActionParsnip, for some reason it's not showing up in lspci lol
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: try:   sudo lshw -C display
[01:14] <EMPHASISS> Muelli: coz my system had a hiccup & I couldn't mount the root partition coz I didn't have the passphrase - using 'rescue' from an installtion CD I couldn't mount it ... I then just tried a reboot, and the normal system came up OK, but it was a scary 20 minutes while I contemplated what to next.
[01:15] <bluezone> ActionParsnip, it's  a radeon 6950 HD
[01:15] <EMPHASISS> *do* next.
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: not bad, tried different players?
[01:16] <Muelli> EMPHASISS: so you're set, no? I *think* I know what you want. Maybe you want to look up, how to backup a LUKS header. But then again, I still don't know, what technology you are using.
[01:16] <bluezone> yeah
[01:16] <bluezone> going to disable the effects
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions > Chopsie
[01:17] <EMPHASISS> Muelli: I asked for an encrypted partition for /root when I built the system.  (/home I put into another partition - I've learnt about that, at least)
[01:17] <bluezone> gogeta, okay i disaled all the effects in compiz but it's still very laggy with the tear free environment
[01:18] <bluezone> disabled*
[01:18] <Muelli> EMPHASISS: yeah, check whether you have a LUKS partition. I.e. with cryptsetup
[01:18] <Muelli> EMPHASISS: if it is a LUKS partition, you can use cryptsetup to backup your header (I think).
[01:19] <EMPHASISS> Muelli: OK thanks.
[01:20] <zacktu> Jorday_U: Here's my grub install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/857238/plain/
[01:21] <zacktu> Jordan_U: Here's my grub install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/857238/plain/
[01:21] <bluezone> gogeta, ello? xD
[01:22] <Isaac_> hello?
[01:22] <zhuang_> anyone here use a tiling wm?
[01:22] <Isaac_> how do I join coldfront IRC?
[01:22] <Isaac_> how do I switch to the coldfront server
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> zhuang_: openbox here
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Isaac_: what client?
[01:23] <Isaac_> xchat
[01:24] <Jordan_U> zacktu: What is the output of "grub-install --version"?
[01:24] <Isaac_> ActionParsnip, its xchat
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> Isaac_: try:   /server irc.coldfront.net 
[01:24] <WHAT_UP1> I'm trying to follow this guide to install windows from an iso without a disc. I'm getting an Unrecognized Command error when trying to do "find --set-root /bootmgr" in grub. I know this isn't a strictly ubuntu command, but does anyone have any idea what I should do? http://tinyurl.com/84gkkdh
[01:25] <zacktu> Jordan_U: the output is: grub-install (GNU GRUB 0.97)
[01:25] <Jordan_U> zacktu: That's wrong. That's grub legacy.
[01:26] <Jordan_U> zacktu: sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[01:28] <zacktu> Jordan_U: output now is grub-install (GRUB) 1.99-12ubuntu5
[01:28] <Jordan_U> zacktu: Good.
[01:29] <Jordan_U> zacktu: Can you pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc" and "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/"?
[01:34] <exco> what do I do about : google-musicmanager-beta:i386 : Depends: xdg-utils:i386 (>= 1.0.2) but it is not installable
[01:34] <exco> I have it installed in 1.1.0
[01:34] <lnxslck> exco, where did you went to install that?
[01:34] <technologov> what's next ? Ubuntu for iPhone ? :)
[01:35] <technologov> (@_@)
[01:35] <lnxslck> We're sorry. Google Music is currently only available in the United States
[01:35] <lnxslck> crap
[01:35] <BlackWeb> Hey I'm trying to find the package download site for ubuntu which I've found it before but does anyone know what the URL is
[01:35] <exco> lnxslck, dpkg -i google-musicmanager-beta_current_i386.deb
[01:35] <yrg> BlackWeb, packages.ubuntu.com ?
[01:36] <lnxslck> exco, my google acounts aren't from US, so i cant dowload it
[01:36] <exco> lnxslck, well just use a proxy in the united stats (1 time) and login to google music
[01:36] <aaas> where is the nfs log file
[01:36] <exco> lnxslck, if you want to use it ... that is
[01:36] <BlackWeb> Thanks yrg exactly what i was looking for :)
[01:37] <exco> so how do I go about an unmet dependency that is already met
[01:37] <lnxslck> exco, just install xdg-utils
[01:37] <exco> lnxslck, it is ... in version 1.1.0 (which is > 1.0.2 imho)
[01:37] <yrg> you're welcome BlackWeb
[01:38] <lnxslck> oh
[01:38] <lnxslck> that's a different thing then
[01:38] <lnxslck> exco, remove xdg-utils and install that particular version?
[01:38] <zacktu> Jordan_U: outputs are at http://paste.ubuntu.com/857278/
[01:39] <exco> lnxslck, can you tell me how I tell apt-get to install a different version?
[01:40] <lotus-blade> I have multiple screens.  I have them set up as one desktop.  is it possible to set it up as desktop1 and desktop2 so that it is 2 screens on one login?
[01:40] <covi> Hi guys. Why I can't 'sudo apt-get install haskell-platform' on my Ubuntu? The system is 10.04LTS.
[01:40] <Jordan_U> zacktu: OK. Please run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy" and then pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc" again.
[01:40] <lnxslck> exco, search the web for that particular package for ubuntu
[01:43] <taza> What happens if I am logged in with a guest account and the power cuts?
[01:44] <exco> lnxslck, that's from way back 10.04
[01:45] <allu2> any way to get pass deja dup trying to be smarter then me with storage size problem?
[01:46] <lnxslck> exco, well, don't think you have much of a choice
[01:46] <lnxslck> unless you open an issue to google devs, and report that
[01:46] <exco> lnxslck, moment of truth
[01:46] <allu2> i have webdav with 50GB space, deja dup sees it as 13.7GB space wich is left on the / partition (webdav mounted in /media/
[01:47] <allu2> deja dup says not enough storage when there should be more then enough
[01:47] <zacktu> Jordan_U: new output is at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/857282/
[01:47] <exco> lnxslck, same error with 1.0.2
[01:47] <TUX11> how do i map a network drive
[01:47] <lnxslck> exco, maybe its broken google music manager
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> TUX11: nautilus will do it
[01:48] <allu2> TUX11: nautilus --> Files --> Connect to Server
[01:48] <exco> lnxslck, maybe so ... do you mind giving it a try?
[01:48] <lnxslck> exco, i can't download it
[01:48] <lnxslck> exco, i'm not in the US
[01:48] <TUX11> now its a shared drive off a modem
[01:48] <allu2> lnxslck: whats the problem?
[01:49] <lnxslck> allu2, i don't have a problem, exco does
[01:49] <lnxslck> lol
[01:49] <allu2> lol ^^
[01:49] <allu2> exco: what is it?
[01:49] <exco> wget http://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-musicmanager-beta_current_i386.deb
[01:49] <lnxslck> allu2, btw ubuntu only sees 2 GB when i have 4GB of ram... weird
[01:49] <exco> allu2,  google-musicmanager-beta:i386 depends on xdg-utils (>= 1.0.2).
[01:49] <narcas> I would like to participate in a project in python
[01:50] <allu2> lnxslck: weird :S old motherboard? old bios? bad memory?
[01:50] <lnxslck> exco, isn't there a source package?
[01:50] <lnxslck> allu2, no. new laptop
[01:50] <exco> lnxslck, don't think so
[01:50] <allu2> let me see if i have music managed .deb somewhere..
[01:50] <lnxslck> allu2, it shows the memory right in windows but not on ubuntu
[01:50] <exco> allu2,  http://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-musicmanager-beta_current_i386.deb
[01:51] <lnxslck> exco, it installed just fine
[01:51] <allu2> exco: i have music manager installed and working for a while now
[01:51] <exco> darned ... so what could that be, lnxslck ?
[01:52] <TUX11> guys how do i got about networking this drive, im bit of a newbie lol
[01:52] <taza> What happens if I am logged in with a guest account and the power cuts?
[01:52] <TUX11> its shared through the usb port of the modem
[01:52] <allu2> TUX11: you know the protocol for the drive? Windows share? FTP? WebDav?
[01:52] <lnxslck> exco, don't know, it installed fine on my laptop
[01:52] <taza> Does the guest account just exist in a temp folder or a ramdisk so it's just gone or do I need to work to get rid of it?
[01:53] <Jordan_U> zacktu: OK. That looks fine. But in the future remember that grub's boot sector should never be installed to a partition.
[01:53] <|goofy|> taza: your computer will suffocate and go out.
[01:53] <TUX11> errm should be windows share i thnk
[01:53] <TUX11> or its called ready share
[01:53] <taza> |goofy|: Trolling is super helpful, thank you.
[01:53] <allu2> TUX11: you see in nautilus side panel "Browse network" try looking there
[01:53] <exco> taza, what do you mean with "what happens"?
[01:54] <taza> exco: As in will I have a ghost of a guest account hanging around my computer somewhere?
[01:54] <taza> Or can I just do the fdisk you have to on a dirty mount and have everything be fine?
[01:54] <taza> Err, fsck
[01:55] <exco> taza, sorry, no idea
[01:55] <Jordan_U> taza: It's created in /tmp/, which gets cleared every boot.
[01:55] <taza> Jordan_U: Ah. Good to know. Thanks.
[01:55] <Jordan_U> taza: You're welcome.
[01:55] <|goofy|> :)
[01:55] <taza> So, in this situation which just happened - boot normally, it runs fsck, everything's fine after that?
[01:55] <TUX11> no it doesnt show up in local network
[01:56] <Jordan_U> taza: Yes. Though most times power outages do not require an fsck since ext3/4 are journaled.
[01:56] <TUX11> has the router given it an ip adress instead
[01:56] <taza> (It WASN'T processing any files at the time. A kid decided to shut down the computer after he was done by pulling the power cord. Gets the job done I suppose...)
[01:56] <zacktu> Jordan_U: I installed on sda and also on sda6 because i thought that i was being encouraged to do so by the conversion program --- will the installation on sda6 go away when i install 12.04?
[01:56] <exco> ok - so other question: bug in carl9170 - what package do I file it against?
[01:57] <taza> Oh, right, had an another question
[01:57] <taza> Any way to force freshly created guest accounts to have compositing turned off or a different language than the systemwide one?
[01:57] <taza> (Running Xubuntu, it's slightly relevant here.)
[01:57] <Jordan_U> zacktu: You didn't read carefully. It said to install to all *drives*, and specifically mentioned that you probably don't want to install to any partition.
[01:59] <zacktu> Jordan_U: i must be more careful -- so i'm gonna reboot and cross my fingers -- thank you for all your help
[01:59] <taza> I have a situation where the systemwide language is the one I use... but any guest user would want a different one. As it is now I have an user account for those guests I delete and remake as necessary.
[01:59] <exco> other question: how do I find out why my pc will stop booting during usplash sometimes?
[01:59] <Jordan_U> zacktu: That said, you don't need to worry about the setting to install grub's boot sector to sda6 as the install in the mbr (sda) will basically override (actually ignore and not use) the one in the partition.
[01:59] <Jordan_U> zacktu: You're welcome.
[02:00] <zacktu> Jordan_U: okay -- again thanks and thanks again
[02:00] <zacktu> bye
[02:00] <taza> It'll still be on sda6 though. It sometimes comes in handy actually.
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> taza: you could mark the file as not executable by all
[02:00] <TUX11> grrr i think i need some serious help
[02:00] <taza> ActionParsnip: Uh, I think you either misread or mispointed something.
[02:00] <TUX11> i do apologise linux is a learning curve for me
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> taza: then set the group ownership of compiz to a new group with the people you want to have compiz access
[02:01] <taza> Ah. Yeah, I'm looking for less of a kludge.
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> taza: then only users in the group or root can use compiz (and therefore get effects)
[02:01] <taza> Xubuntu compositing uses compiz? I don't need compositing at all, and it's actually a bit of a strain on my graphics hardware.
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> taza: its how you control whom can do, with groups
[02:02] <taza> ActionParsnip: I don't have any need to not allow guest users compositing, I just want it turned off for the slight speed boost.
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> taza: no xubuntu default doesn't use compositing, but users will be able to switch compositing on
[02:03] <taza> ActionParsnip: You are wrong.
[02:04] <taza> Basically I want fresh guest accounts to be born with a few different settings from default, is the larger thing.
[02:04] <moes> Booting live cd of lubuntu...on high end computer logo and system specs are correct ....Onlow end coputer
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> taza: xfwin4 doesn't do compositing...
[02:05] <Chopsie> Hellu, #ubuntu. I am in dire need of assistance with initial booting my computer into Ubuntu.
[02:05] <taza> ActionParsnip: Xubuntu has some kind of option called "compositing" which enables transparency and such.
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> taza: you could replace xfwin4 with openbox, it will be light
[02:05] <moes> the logo is the purple uubuntu and the system specs are ubuntu..Why??
[02:06] <taza> Oh god stop.
[02:06] <taza> Replacing the window manager and figuring out how to get the guest accounts to respect that is, well, first of all a kludge and second of all less suited and third of all a huge amount of work.
[02:09] <moes> Booting live cd of lubuntu...on high end computer logo and system specs are correct ....On low end computer the logo is the purple ubuntu and the system specs are ubuntu..Why??
[02:10] <wolfmitchell> killall -HUP xinetd is not working...
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> taza: "less suited" in what way?
[02:10] <wolfmitchell> Nvm.
[02:10] <wolfmitchell> Had to exit then re-enter Bash
[02:11] <taza> ActionParsnip: As in the users in question are already used to xfwm, and reteaching them Openbox would be a lot of work for a minor problem.
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> taza: you can switch the WM and the panel at the bottom will still run, so the user interface will be the same
[02:12] <h4ckm3> I have a macbook that I can't get to boot from the kubuntu live disc, it is the 32bit, I already have puppylinux installed on the macbook with grub4dos.
[02:12] <kieppie> anone able/willing to help me with a frustrating broadcom driver issue, please? mine for broken on my lucid 10.04 LTS when I upgraded to kernel 3, and I've managed to load the b43 driver at last. in wicd I can pick up the networks, but it throws a "bad password" error (which is total BS), & in dmesg can see it authenticating OK but then "denied association (code=12)"
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> h4ckm3: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[02:12] <h4ckm3> I want to manually add the neccessary fil;es from the kubuntu installation disc and then manually update the menu.lst so that I can get it to boot from kubuntu\
[02:12] <taza> ActionParsnip: Still a giant amount of work for questionable gain. I could fork Xubuntu and make one with the settings I want, too, but I'm not going to do that, either.
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> kieppie: kernel 3 isn't suitable for Lucid
[02:13] <h4ckm3> where can I go to find how and which files I need to copy out of the iso
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> kieppie: we don't support kernels which are not from the official repos
[02:13] <kieppie> ActionParsnip: I had o install it, because power-management went completely FUBAR on 2.6.x kernel
[02:13] <h4ckm3> or perhaps could I boot the iso directly from grub4dos?
[02:13] <h4ckm3> okay then ubuntu
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> kieppie: its not supported here
[02:14] <h4ckm3> yes
[02:14] <h4ckm3> I also tried other ubuntu iso's
[02:14] <h4ckm3> the macbook is the problem i suspect
[02:14] <h4ckm3> the same discs boot fine on other computers as well as the iso in a vm
[02:15] <kieppie> ActionParsnip: not sure it's a kernel issue, as such, but a wireless/networking one - damn broadcom drivers & all
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> h4ckm3: menu.lst hasn't been  used for ages dude
[02:15] <h4ckm3> we use it a lot for puppylinux
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> kieppie: doesit work in the official Lucid kernel?
[02:15] <h4ckm3> just because it's eassy to configure
[02:17] <kieppie> it did, but in the 2.6 kernel (bcmwl-kernel-source), other stuff stopped working, like power-management - I've nearly damaged my netbook because it kept running/turning on in my bag.
[02:17] <kieppie> I've been forced to use the b43 driver on kernel 3.
[02:17] <h4ckm3> I can even just install grub2 in the partition with ubuntu and point grub4dos to grub2
[02:18] <steve84> hi i am new to linux and i am having a minor issue i am running ubuntu 12.04 alpha 2 and i am missing the wifi setting on the main desktop top panel how do i get it back?
[02:18] <CFHowlett> !precise|steve84
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> kieppie: if it works i the official kernel but not in the 3.x kernel. Then its a kernel issue. You have used a kernel not intended for your release, its not from the official repos, so its not supported here
[02:18] <kieppie> so atm it seems, for a "stable", LTS OS, I have a choice of wireless+boiling netbook or power-management+cable-only
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> steve84: if you are new to Ubuntu, why are you using pre-release OS with bugs and glitches?
[02:19] <urfr332gO> h4ckm3, out of pure curiosity grub4dos?
[02:19] <kieppie> I'll run with the 2.6 kernel, but what about power?
[02:19] <h4ckm3> puppylinux comes with grub4dos in an easy to configure gui tool
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> kieppie: you could install Oneiric and get the kernel and you will be supported.
[02:19] <saeth> i have a question .. i have tried updating my system logged in as a root user using apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade. I have pulled all the updates but the newest kernal image wont install. ive tried rebooting and doing the same process over with no sucess then apt-get purge the linux image and repulling and apt-get install still with no luck. any help on this would be appricated.
[02:19] <h4ckm3> it's just very simple to configure and use to boot different linux distros off a usb or w/e
[02:20] <kieppie> this is my work-machine, so I want to keep with the "stable" in LTS
[02:20] <urfr332gO> h4ckm3, grub 2 will cover most.
[02:20] <steve84> ActionParsnip i had given my laptop to a friend to work on it as windows was not working well and he thought linux would be better im just still learing how to use it
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> kieppie: Precise is in Alpha and out in April. You could upgrade LTS to LTS and get 3,2 kernel
[02:20] <administrator> Hello?
[02:20] <administrator> Anyone here?
[02:21] <Guest60559> Hello?
[02:21] <kieppie> running precise on a desktop machine atm - far from stable or usable, sorry.
[02:21] <Guest60559> anyone here?
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest60559: nobody at all
[02:21] <Guest60559> Ah.
[02:21] <Guest60559> I see.
[02:21] <jrib> kieppie: all ubuntu releases are stable by definition
[02:21] <h4ckm3> or if there are any other caveats
[02:21] <Guest60559> Is this the type of place I would go to ask a question?
[02:22] <jrib> Guest60559: yes, just ask
[02:22] <urfr332gO> Guest60559, using a guest makes it hard to tab your nic it has to be completely typed out and anybody here is not correct post your question.
[02:22] <totesmuhgoats> it is always much nicer to sit in this room than the other room
[02:22] <saeth> here are the crash report and error i have recieved  when working on this. Crash :  http://pastebin.com/L6iJF9jj Error: http://pastebin.com/tZynKniY
[02:22] <kieppie> ActionParsnip: ok - so if I downgrade to 2.6, how to resolve the power-management issue? I've read up, filed, bugs, etc, and the general consensus is to use the 3.x kernel.....
[02:22] <totesmuhgoats> wrong channel, sorry
[02:22] <Guest60559> I've installed Java, and A certain program that usually connects to a server on another operating system. But on ubuntu it doesn't work i get the error "Error cannot connect to server"
[02:23] <Guest60559> What do?
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> kieppie: you are free to use whatever kernel you want but if its from a PPA, we cannot support it here
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest60559: can you ping the server?
[02:24] <kieppie>  jrib: by definition, yes, but in reality, no. I've not seen a stable system of a stable release until x.x.1 is out
[02:24] <Guest60559> Yes I can ping the server.
[02:24] <jrib> kieppie: stable just means the packages aren't changing
[02:24] <kieppie> ActionParsnip: it's not from the PPA
[02:24] <Guest60559> But, It just doesn't connect on ubuntu.I have the correct network drivers and Graphics drivers to run the program.
[02:24] <jrib> kieppie: anyway, why don't you use 11.10?  It has a 3.0 kernel
[02:25] <kieppie> jrib: sticking with LTS on my work/production systems. on "casual" systems I don't mind
[02:25] <jrib> kieppie: but why?  Why are you preferring LTS (especially, since you have issues on it)?
[02:26] <smagic39> hi all
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> kieppie: where did you get the kernel from if not a  PPA?
[02:27] <smagic39> Waiting for sound system to respond
[02:27] <kieppie> jrib: stability.... I'd rather make use of a Ubuntu LTS than switch to Debian. Cutting-edge is fine for non-critical systems, but I need stability on systems that I rely on. I've had too many weird changes happen on non-LTS
[02:27] <smagic39> help me :
[02:27] <smagic39> Waiting for sound system to respond
[02:27] <smagic39> i am using Ubuntu 10.10
[02:27] <jrib> kieppie: as I've said, 11.10 is a stable release (all ubuntu releases are)
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> smagic39: what is the output of:  wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[02:28] <kieppie> ActionParsnip: `apt-get install linux-image-3`<tab><tab>
[02:28] <urfr332gO> !help > smagic39
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> can you pastebin the output of:   apt-cache policy linux-image-3*       thanks
[02:29] <smagic39> thanks so mck <ActionParsnip>
[02:29] <smagic39> i trying to do that
[02:29] <kieppie> jrib: I'd accept you position that the packages' composition does not change (new apps, etc), but I've experienced plenty of critical bugs in those releases - much more than in the LTSs
[02:30] <smagic39> glad to see <ActionParnsnip>
[02:30] <jrib> kieppie: so which ones affect you on 11.10?
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> smagic39: np man
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> smagic39: upload to the server and a red URL will be made, what is it
[02:31] <smagic39> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=47ec06cef4d5b9ed806733b835e039cdc7bd44e3
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> smagic39: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa;  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds, reboot to test. Maveric is EOL in April this year (no more updates and no support)
[02:32] <kieppie> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/agdTz19Y
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> kieppie: its the backport repo then
[02:35] <somethinginteres> tried to install Debian base system, GRUB failed to install on /dev/sda. No logs accessible to know why. I had to install LILO and that booted my into an "(inframs)" prompt. Any ideas?
[02:36] <JoeR1> I have Xubuntu and I installed Nautilus and now I would like to make it the default file manager, how would I do this?
[02:36] <yrg> applications > settings > preferred applications, j4q8
[02:36] <PsiKloPx> screwing around with things I shouldn't have...installed  gconf-edito compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:36] <yrg> JoeR1, rather
[02:37] <jesse_w> What grammar should I use in /etc/modules if I want a module insmoded when boot?
[02:37] <JoeR1> Thank you yrg, I feel foolish now - that answer seems so obvious
[02:37] <kieppie> jrib: other than arbitrary idiosyncratic changes to the interface (tried Unity, dislike it ATM)? Can't say now, since my old machine that ran that OS is fried. But why on earth, on an LTS, would power-management stop working & it's not being addressed? Was working, now it's not..... not exactly stable.
[02:38] <PsiKloPx> turned on a couple of the windows animations which apparently turned unity off...now when I boot into Ubuntu there isn't any menus or toolbars, can't do anything. Had to chance UI to
[02:38] <urfr332gO> PsiKloPx, it is not the installs but how you used them I suspect
[02:38] <PsiKloPx> Gnome to get this far
[02:38] <kieppie> ActionParsnip: could be
[02:39] <PsiKloPx> how do I turn them off and get back to Unity
[02:39] <jerz> Has anyone tried getting an nForce 630i/7100 chipset to work in Ubuntu 11 64-bit. It just seems to lock up and I can't get the ethernet port to work. I went to both ASUS' and nVidia's site nad there's nothing I can find about video or etheernet support.
[02:39] <urfr332gO> PsiKloPx, you can do a reset in compiz.
[02:39] <saeth> Can someone help me work out the issue im having please ?
[02:40] <PsiKloPx> how do I get to compiz...sorry, long time windows user but new to linux
[02:40] <PsiKloPx> wait, think I found it.
[02:40] <cjohnston> saeth: just explain your issue/ask your question.. if someone is around who can help you, they will
[02:40] <Strav> Hi. Anyone experienced in maintaining a raid5 array?
[02:40] <jrib> kieppie: I don't know why power management would stop working or how it's being addressed.  Bug tracker is probably the best place to find that out.  As far as issues with unity, use whatever interface you want on 11.10
[02:40] <saeth> i have a question .. i have tried updating my system logged in as a root user using apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade. I have pulled all the updates but the newest kernal image wont install. ive tried rebooting and doing the same process over with no sucess then apt-get purge the linux image and repulling and apt-get install still with no luck. any help on this would be appricated.
[02:40] <saeth> here are the crash report and error i have recieved  when working on this. Crash :  http://pastebin.com/L6iJF9jj Error: http://pastebin.com/tZynKniY
[02:41] <cjohnston> saeth: are you on 12.04 then?
[02:41] <Strav> (I have some general question on the general good practices to prevent data corruption)
[02:42] <urfr332gO> PsiKloPx, you may just need to logout and back in or reboot to get some functions back but here is a link. http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[02:42] <jrib> saeth: check that everything is in order with update-grub?
[02:42] <saeth> cjohnston, no ... its a specialty distro built on top of ubuntu however i am unsure if the issue is something that would be specific to the distro or just a generic pebcak error
[02:42] <saeth> jrib, update-grub runs fine however it does not pull the new image due to it not actually being installed .
[02:43] <virtu> Hi... i need some volunteer to test a web conference at anymeeting right now
[02:43] <urfr332gO> PsiKloPx, ctrl-alt-t should bring up a terminal.
[02:43] <virtu> I am from Brazil and we are on 1st International Bicicly Meeting
[02:43] <Ian_Moone> How do I change the audio output to a USB headset?
[02:44] <SirGuy787> I closed the Folders
[02:44] <SirGuy787> In FileViewer, or whatever its called
[02:44] <SirGuy787> How do i reopen the Folder's path?
[02:45] <urfr332gO> SirGuy787, repeat and rinse .
[02:45] <PsiKloPx> I'm in Gnome right now...gonna log out and try your suggestions...be back
[02:45] <saeth> Any help would be appricated.
[02:45] <Strav> Ian_Moone: if you have plugged in your usb headset, it should show up in sound-settings/hardware ... just select it to make it the default output
[02:45] <SirGuy787> Repeat and rinse?
[02:45] <SirGuy787> What type of a suggestion is that?
[02:46] <urfr332gO> SirGuy787, repeat what you did in the first place to get to the folders, without you actually name them it is a bit difficult to help.
[02:46] <Ian_Moone> How?
[02:46] <Ian_Moone> there is no apply button.
[02:47] <Ian_Moone> Never mind
[02:47] <Ian_Moone> I just changed the wrong setting.
[02:47] <SirGuy787> I dont remember what i did to FileViewer
[02:47] <jerz> Has anyone tried getting an nForce 630i/7100 chipset to work in Ubuntu 11 64-bit. It just seems to lock up and I can't get the ethernet port to work. I went to both ASUS' and nVidia's site and there's nothing I can find about video or ethernet support.
[02:47] <SirGuy787> On the left was a Tree displaying the folder path to where i was, but now there isnt. Any help?
[02:47] <urfr332gO> SirGuy787, without folder names and fileviewer or whatever its called it is a guessing game. :)
[02:48] <Strav> Ian_Moone: just select it and press test speakers (it's been a long time I haven't tried a second audio output in ubuntu but my guess is that once selected, you don't need to apply, it'll remain the default while it's connected)
[02:49] <virtu> http://www.anymeeting.com/WebConference/default.aspx?ip_ek=BNRIOMAISVINTE1
[02:49] <urfr332gO> !pm > SirGuy787 I don't do PM
[02:49] <virtu> please... just need to check if it works on linux
[02:49] <virtu> we are from porto alegre and are using open source for all main stream on First International Bycicle Forum
[02:50] <urfr332gO> SirGuy787, If I could be more helpful I would be the key to the IRC is details, if you can. :)
[02:50] <SirGuy787> Scroll left, click Home Folder. That was what i did to open FileViewer. I had a tree view of the folders up to the folder I was in, but somehow, i closed it. I cannot figure out how to reopen it. Any help?
[02:52] <urfr332gO> SirGuy787, what was the folder?
[02:52] <urfr332gO> name
[02:52] <SirGuy787> Home Folder, but the tree view isnt there for ANY folder
[02:52] <SirGuy787> err
[02:52] <SirGuy787> ./
[02:53] <PsiKloPx> urfr332gO - Looks like resetting Unity worked...thanks!
[02:53] <urfr332gO> SirGuy787, so what were you actually trying to do that might help.
[02:53] <SirGuy787> I want to get my Tree View back
[02:53] <urfr332gO> SirGuy787, what release and desktop?
[02:53] <Ernesto_> HI
[02:54] <Ernesto_> hello
[02:54] <SirGuy787> 11.04
[02:54] <Ernesto_> i need help!
[02:54] <Ernesto_> any body here?
[02:54] <Ben64> about 1408 people
[02:54] <somethinginteres> how long does it normally take for VLC to get from unstable to testing?
[02:55] <Ernesto_> How to transfer files from Ubuntu to Windows 7 via LAN Cable?
[02:55] <urfr332gO> SirGuy787, try this wiki it gives instructions for a tree view. https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/nautilus-views.html
[02:56] <Strav> Ernesto_: without a router, I don't think you can do it without fiddling with your ethernet cable.
[02:56] <tensorpudding> Ernesto_, share folder, then browse shared folder on network places
[02:56] <tensorpudding> first you have to connect the cable between both machines and configure it to use a link-local connection
[02:56] <tensorpudding> also it assumes that one or both NIC's involved are auto-sensing, or the cable is a crossover cable
[02:57] <Ernesto_> I am just beginner. Help me how please. I am having a lan cable only. NOt a cross over calbe
[02:57] <Ben64> Ernesto_: then you need a router or a switch
[02:57] <tensorpudding> Ernesto_, it will work if you know at least one NIC is auto-sensing
[02:58] <Strav> Ernesto_: once you have the cable sorted out, look for something like this http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[02:59] <wingnut2626l> I have ubuntu 10.04 with oracle virtual box installed.  How can i share files between my host Os and my virtual machine (Windows XP)?
[02:59] <tensorpudding> Ernesto_, sharing a folder in the Files program by right clicking, going to Sharing Options and configuring it as needed is the first step
[02:59] <tensorpudding> this is in Ubuntu
[02:59] <Ernesto_> I have Modem..
[02:59] <tensorpudding> it should then appear in windows 7's network places, in theory
  but it didnt appear
[03:00] <tensorpudding> did you make sure that the connection worked?
[03:00] <tensorpudding> did you configure it to do a link-local connection, and did it give you an IP address?
[03:00] <Ernesto_> I dont know how to check it
[03:01] <Ben64> Ernesto_: you need a crossover cable, or two network cables and a hub, switch, or router
[03:01] <urfr332gO> wingnut2626l, you need to add a shred file.
[03:01] <urfr332gO> shared
[03:01] <Ernesto_> explain link-local connection?
[03:01] <cjohnston> I'm having an issue restoring stuff from the Trash that was deleted by accident.. When I click a file and click restore file, I get "There was an error moving the file into /path/to/file because the file or directory doesn't exist"   The file exists in the Trash, and I have confirmed that the directory still exists. Any idea why I can't move the files back to where they belong?
[03:01] <tensorpudding> Ernesto_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address
[03:01] <wingnut2626l> i tried that but i didnt work.  Perhaps i wasnt doing it properly
[03:01] <Strav> Ernesto_: I think Ben64 is right, and you can quite easily modify a regular ethernet cable to create a crossover one.
[03:02] <Ernesto_> Strav, And how's that?
[03:02] <tensorpudding> very short story, it's just associates each computer with a random IP in a certain subblock
[03:02] <Ernesto_> @Strav how is that?
[03:02] <Ben64> its not very easy to modify without the proper tools
[03:02] <Strav> Ernesto_: http://www.littlewhitedog.com/content-8.html
[03:03] <tensorpudding> you can't modify an ethernet cable that way without a cable stripper, a crimper and a lot of know-how
[03:03] <tensorpudding> it's entirely possible that it's unnecessary
[03:04] <Ernesto_> this mess started when i tried to install ubuntu 11.10 using Wubi in windows 7, then it modified the mbr, i tried to fix it using recovery cd in windows 7 and deleted the windows 7 partition accidently. Now i cant even install windows since all the partitions are dynamic for god's sake.. :(
[03:04] <tensorpudding> Ernesto_, in ubuntu, under the networks, does it show that the wired connection is up?
[03:04] <Strav> tensorpudding: from what I remember, I managed to do it only with a simple knife and some tape. Of course it was a throw-away solution but it worked.
[03:04] <urfr332gO> wingnut2626l, right now I have nothing in my virtual box so I can't acces the edit but it is the edit of the nachine, and having a file in te host to point to.
[03:04] <urfr332gO> machine*
[03:05] <Ernesto_> currently iam using ubuntu from live cd
[03:05] <Strav> oh... but I think I scrapped two cables for that ;)
[03:05] <wingnut2626l> HELLO ALL FROM NEW CASTLE, DE USA!!!
[03:05] <Ben64> Ernesto_: then what are you trying to do
[03:05] <urfr332gO> wingnut2626l, couple of ways to do it really since your host is windows this channel may not be your best help try ##windows, or #vbox
[03:06] <jesse_w> Using my compiled kernel ,I cant switch to console through Ctrl+Alt+Fx,just a black screen  come out,any suggestions?
[03:06] <Ernesto_> the problem is, i need to unplug the inter net connection to connect with the friends' laptop which have windows 7 and that disconnect us.. So i need full procedures to fix this issue
[03:06] <tensorpudding> Ernesto_, there is an option in 11.10 to select the type of connection, and link-local will be on the list
[03:06] <wingnut2626l> my host is ubuntu
[03:06] <wingnut2626l> the guest OS is windows
[03:06] <Ben64> Ernesto_: no, what is your goal?
[03:06] <Ernesto_> how to mention someone in this IRC ?
[03:07] <sohn> mention?
[03:07] <Ernesto_> Ben64, how to mentiion you?
[03:07] <tensorpudding> Ernesto_, we don't know if it's going to work
[03:07] <Ben64> Ernesto_: just like that
[03:07] <urfr332gO> wingnut2626l, cool it is a sort of figure it out sistuation really virtualbox has lots of links investigate them and try #vbox.
[03:07] <Ernesto_> Ben64: Let me try
[03:07] <Ernesto_> no it didnt work you see
[03:07] <Ben64> it did work...
[03:08] <Ernesto_> i see red characters when i am replied. how to do that to others
[03:08] <Ernesto_> God twitter was easier
[03:08] <tensorpudding> you are doing that to others
[03:08] <Ben64> you just type your name
[03:08] <tensorpudding> you can't see it
[03:08] <tensorpudding> but they can
[03:08] <Ben64> your = their
[03:08] <Ben64> like this... tensorpudding
[03:08] <Ernesto_> oh.. I see {i cant see}
[03:08] <tensorpudding> yes, that thing that Ben64 sent me was red
[03:09] <tensorpudding> anyway, if it requires you to lose internet to try it it's not going to work
[03:09] <Ernesto_> ok.. i am very new to ubuntu and irc as well so dont get angry with me..
[03:10] <Ernesto_> there are lot of conversation going on here.. how can we chat in another window? like DM in twitter?
[03:10] <Ben64> Ernesto_: just try to explain the problem you're having, theres probably a better solution than making a crossover cable
[03:10] <NyLes> ok, i have a problem with ubuntu not recognizing my sound card (aplay -l) so i tried linuxmint9, they have the same issue.. after clicking the volume icont, i received a prompt saying; GStreamer was unable to detect any sound devices. Some sound system specific GStremer packages maybe missing. It may also be a permissions problem. so can anyone tell me how will i do that permission thing with ubuntu?
[03:10] <tensorpudding> can you not connect this ubuntu machine without the cable?
[03:11] <tensorpudding> is there no wifi?
[03:11] <Strav> Ernesto_: try to precisely describe what you wish to achieve.
[03:11] <Ernesto_> My Ubuntu  in Sony VAIO not supporting wifi..
[03:11] <tensorpudding> yes there's no obvious reason why you need to do this
[03:12] <Ernesto_> strav i need to copy the files in my hard drive via lan cable to my friends windows 7 laptop
[03:12] <Ben64> Ernesto_: why
[03:12] <Ernesto_> Ben64 because i cant install os in my laptop so i need to secure files before i delete the entire disk (cant delete specific C: partition using windows cmd promt)
[03:13] <Ben64> Ernesto_: can't install which os?
[03:13] <Ernesto_> Ben64 I cant install Windows 7 again in my laptop any more.. It says all disk partitions are dynamic
[03:14] <Ernesto_> Ben64 I wish i had a 1 TB Portable Hard drive :P
[03:14] <urfr332gO> Ernesto_, did you get dynamic by having to many primary partitions?
[03:14] <Strav> Ernesto_: do you have access to a desktop computer? (if you don't have an external storage, the fastest way to do what would be to take out your hd, and plug it on the desktop's motherboard)
[03:15] <Ernesto_> urfr332g0 Yes, i made 5 partitions including the 100 MB System Reserved shit'
[03:15] <Ernesto_> Strav, no desktop pc!
[03:15] <Ben64> this seems more like a windows issue, not an ubuntu one
[03:15] <urfr332gO> Ernesto_, bummer I always mention this to people dual booting, many don't know these limitations.
[03:15] <tensorpudding> why can't you boot windows
[03:16] <tensorpudding> and copy the files over windows
[03:16] <Strav> Ernesto_: if you have a partition you can put all your important data on, then there's no problem. Just be caraful on what you're going to format during the install.
[03:16] <Ernesto_> tensorpudding i deleted the Windows 7 partition and MBR accidently
[03:16] <tensorpudding> wait
[03:16] <tensorpudding> so where are the files you want to back up
[03:17] <Strav> Ernesto_: (I mean: if you have an EXTRA partition)
[03:17] <Ernesto_> Strav, the problem is, i can see different partitions in Windows 7 Repair Command Prompt using DVD, but GParted in Ubuntu Live 11.10 only shows 298 GB disk not the seperate 3 partitons i have.. Yet i can access these by mounting.
[03:18] <Ernesto_> tensorpudding My files are still in the partitions, i can mount in ubuntu and share using sharing options, but they're not visible in GParted.
[03:19] <Strav> if they do are partition, gparted should display them... I wonder why you can't see them
[03:20] <Ernesto_> Strav, I wonder the same.. But the cmd prompt using Windows Dvd shows them.. both in LIST PARTITION & LIST VOLUME command
[03:21] <fulcan> Can someone help me fix this?  http://pastebin.com/B3jHk2Ds
[03:21] <Ernesto_> Ok guys.. Its time to me for going  for an exam today.. KIndly @Mention me on twitter if you think you can help.. I am in twitter @iAmTheErnesto
[03:21] <Ernesto_> or mail me bala8vijay@gmail.com
[03:25] <JoeR1> HMM, I just apt-got pyneighborhood and it does not want to start, any advice?
[03:25] <fulcan> Can someone help me fix this?  http://pastebin.com/B3jHk2Ds I tried to just carve a partition out with dd, but just get junk on the screen.
[03:25] <bonhoeffer> i'm on ubuntu 10.04 LTS, but apt-get install git doesn't install -- what are my next steps?
[03:26] <Strav> bonhoeffer: git-core?
[03:27] <bonhoeffer> got it -- sorry
[03:27] <bonhoeffer> Strav, how, in general would i search package names to avoid a repeat of a question like this
[03:27] <bonhoeffer> other than google?
[03:27] <urfr332gO> joe75, older link may be helpful. http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/network-browsing-with-pyneighborhood-in-xubuntu-jaunty/
[03:27] <Strav> bonhoeffer: apt-cache search packagename (it also takes regex)
[03:28] <bonhoeffer> nice -- thanks
[03:28] <Strav> or, apt-get install synaptic and enjoy (unless you're on a headless server)
[03:29] <bonhoeffer> anyway -- i'll build from source -- but git-core is necessary as far as i can tell
[03:30] <bonhoeffer> Strav, what should i do to make sure i'm generally up to date (on 10.04 at least)
[03:31] <bonhoeffer> sudo apt-get update or similar?
[03:31] <Strav> sudo apt-get update (just to update the package list)
[03:31] <Strav> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:31] <Strav> there's man apt-get that does wonders too.
[03:31] <lqgr00ve> how would i go about resolving all the required dependancies for a particular package and then bundling them for installation on another machine?
[03:31] <zymic> how to remove Real-time sunlight wallpaper
[03:32] <Strav> lqgr00ve: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[03:33] <urfr332gO> zymic, did you get it from here. ppa:realtime.sunlight.wallpaper/rsw
[03:33] <bonhoeffer> Strav, you are very, helpful thanks
[03:33] <bonhoeffer> thanks for the man -- reference -- should have hit that first
[03:34] <lqgr00ve> Strav: thank you.
[03:34] <Strav> bonhoeffer: man man is where to start ;)
[03:36] <bonhoeffer> Strav, ! agreed
[03:36] <urfr332gO> zymic, if the ppa is correct look up ppa purge on the net.
[03:36] <fulcan> Can someone help me fix this?  http://pastebin.com/B3jHk2Ds I tried to just carve a partition out with dd, but just get junk on the screen?
[03:36] <bsmith093> while everyone's still paying attention to this conversation, my 1.5tb backup drive fell off a table, boom, click of death. it was mostly backed up tv shows, but theres enough on it that i cant easily replace, that is actually mine, that i was actually considering paying the insane recovery costs
[03:37] <Strav> bsmith093: try to open your case and plug the drive in a desktop... perhaps it's just something in the case that's broken.
[03:38] <bsmith093> i did, no joy... clicks from inside the dribve itslef
[03:39] <Strav> bsmith093: then all my condolences
[03:39] <urfr332gO> bsmith093, have you tried ##hardware this is ubuntu support. :)
[03:39] <bsmith093> ah thanks
[03:39] <Strav> bsmith093: would be nice if hds allowed a magnetic disk transplant somehow.
[03:39] <urfr332gO> bsmith093, good luck that is a bummer.
[03:40] <rayden_> where can i get mysql path dyrectory?
[03:40] <Strav> rayden_: hidden in var
[03:40] <fulcan> rayden_ my.cf
[03:40] <rayden_> Please enter MySQL binaries directory (no trailing slash):
[03:40] <Strav> rayden: sudo updatedb and then locate mysql will tell you enough
[03:40] <bsmith093> Strav: yes it really would :D
[03:41] <rayden_> Strav, fulcan ty
[03:41] <Strav> rayden_: /usr/bin/mysql should be the place for the binaries
[03:41] <Strav> rayden_: your dbs will be in vars though.
[03:43] <Strav> (/var/lib/mysql)
[03:44] <Etherael> FYI, if you have the latest binary AMD drivers to get around openCL bugs installed and you install all updates on a fresh install of oneiric, even without fglrx debs on the system, it will totally break your system.
[03:44] <Etherael> I had to force reinstall the amd binary drivers to fix it.
[03:44] <Chopsie> My system has an Nvidia 600 series video card. I am booted with disk. I entered nouveau.blacklist=1 in the boot options, and booted from disk. In order to access internet, I need wireless to function. At System Settings > Network > Wireless, I see that Firmware is missing. What can I do to get my wireless to work?
[03:44] <rayden_> Strav, dont work
[03:45] <rayden_> i just instal xamp
[03:46] <Strav> rayden_: what do you mean? oh... well sorry, try: /usr/sbin/mysqld (the server itself)
[03:47] <fulcan> Can someone help me fix this?  http://pastebin.com/B3jHk2Ds I tried to just carve a partition out with dd, but just get junk on the screen?
[03:47] <CFHowlett> fulcan   dd?  y u no gparted?
[03:47] <rayden_> Strav, The data you entered is invalid. Please verify and try again.
[03:48] <MrKeuner> hello, anybody using ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 on Lucid? I am wondering how stable that ppa and gnome3 are on lucid?
[03:48] <Strav> rayden_: what's exactly the question you are asked?
[03:48] <Guest99435> leaving?
[03:48] <fulcan> CFHowlett gparted will fix images?
[03:49] <CFHowlett> fulcan   ah. not that I know of - strictly for partitioning hdd's.
[03:49] <mister_m> how can I invert all my colors in gnome 3+
[03:49] <trism> MrKeuner: that ppa only supports oneiric+ (plus some old builds for natty)
[03:49] <rayden_> Strav, We were unable to find MySQL binaries on your path .. where to locate mysql binaries
[03:50] <Strav> mister_m: compiz has a plugin for this
[03:50] <Strav> (ccsm is risky though)
[03:50] <MrKeuner> trism, oh ok thanks
[03:51] <urfr332gO> Strav, gnome 3 runs with mutter not compiz  mister_m
[03:51] <mister_m> Strav: well I am fibbing a little, I am using linux mint
[03:51] <Strav> urfr332gO: you can't replace the wm with compiz? (wasn't aware of that for gnome3)
[03:52] <rayden_> can someone look on one error into xamp instalation ?
[03:52] <urfr332gO> Strav, compiz is used in fedora foe effects in mint I have no idea and mint is not supported here mister_m
[03:52] <Strav> rayden_: try /usr/bin/ or /usr/sbin/
[03:53] <mister_m> urfr332gO: Yes I realize that, unfortunately #gnome is asleep
[03:54] <urfr332gO> mister_m, it against channel policy for us to help you, not a personal thing here. :)
[03:54] <MrKeuner> mister_m, try irc.gnome.org, s #gnome
[03:54] <mister_m> MrKeuner: will do
[03:55] <fulcan> Can someone help me fix this?  http://pastebin.com/B3jHk2Ds I tried to just carve a partition out with dd, but just get junk on the screen? I need a gparted tool for images, does this exist?
[03:56] <urfr332gO> fulcan, you were carving for a ntfs right?
[03:56] <rayden_> Strav, look  Starting XAMPP for Linux 1.7.7... /////  XAMPP: Starting MySQL...  /////   XAMPP: Couldn't start MySQL!    /////     XAMPP: Starting ProFTPD...     /////     XAMPP for Linux started.
[03:56] <rayden_> root@ubuntu:
[03:56] <hydrox24> rayden_: what you've done so far is fine, but please be aware that any more output than that and you will need to use a pastebin
[03:56] <fulcan> urfr332gO yes sir!
[03:57] <Strav> rayden_: try: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start what does it says?
[03:57] <rayden_> hydrox24, sry
[03:57] <hydrox24> rayden_: no, that's cool, just making sure you were aware :)
[03:57] <urfr332gO> fulcan, you might try ##linux this may be a non ubuntu thing or at least the help may be spase, justa heads up really.
[03:58] <rayden_> Strav, The data you entered is invalid. Please verify and try again.
[03:58] <fulcan> urfr332gO kk
[03:58] <rayden_> hydrox24, :P
[03:59] <Strav> rayden_: so you cannot manually start the mysql server?
[03:59] <rayden_> Strav,  i am begginer... if u tell me i can
[04:00] <jiltdil> chanel for virtual box please
[04:01] <Strav> well, try: apt-get install mysql-cluster-server-5.1 --reinstall (we'll make sure you have it installed)
[04:01] <CFHowlett> jiltdil   #vbox
[04:02] <jiltdil> CFHowlett, thanks a lot :)
[04:03] <lotus-blade> how do I make a mbr?  sudo lilo -M /dev/sdb mbr no longer works for me and ms-sys not in resp.
[04:04] <lotus-blade> is this done with grub now?
[04:04] <Strav> lotus-blade: I would think so
[04:04] <Strav> lotus-blade: grub2 (major diff)
[04:05] <Etherael> does oneiric have some kind of hardcoded max 4 virtual spaces thing going on?
[04:05] <Etherael> no matter what I do I seem unable to raise it above that
[04:06] <Strav> Etherael: this is defined in compiz
[04:06] <brianp1992> join/ #xubuntu
[04:06] <Strav> Etherael: install compiz settings manager (but be careful with what options you change)
[04:07] <Etherael> Strav: Yep, I can set up to 4 spaces, anything else is ignored.
[04:07] <Strav> Etherael: last time I checked it worked, let me try again
[04:08] <urfr332gO> lotus-blade, what OS's do you have?
[04:08] <Strav> Etherael: ah, yea you have to set the vertical/horizontal size to match.
[04:09] <Etherael> Strav: That's what I'm doing, I set 7 horizontal desktops
[04:09] <lotus-blade> I am trying to make a bootable usb stick drive for win 7.  I use ubuntu 11.10
[04:09] <Strav> Etherael: I have Horizontal virtual size = 5, vertical virtual size = 1,  number of desktop = 5, everything is fine.
[04:10] <lotus-blade> comp installing to has bad cd drive.
[04:10] <lotus-blade> got to make bootable usb stick
[04:10] <urfr332gO> lotus-blade, just make a ntfs put a bootflag on the partition and exstrct the ISO to it with the file manager and you will have a bootable W7 usb the boot flag is the key here.
[04:11] <lotus-blade> so cfdisk will do it all then
[04:11] <jayvee> anyone know why in ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso the Rock Ridge boot image doesn't match up with isolinux/isolinux.bin any more?
[04:11] <urfr332gO> lotus-blade, never used that but if it does in the end what I just described go for it.
[04:11] <mi3> Hi people!
[04:12] <brianp1992> hey
[04:12] <Etherael> Strav: Hmmm.. interesting, now I can set 5, but not 7 (which is my normal)
[04:12] <Etherael> does 7 work for you?
[04:12] <lotus-blade> thnx
[04:13] <mi3> I install fortune-mod, to display fortune cookies in the terminal, can you suggest how do I make them start every time automatically in the terminal?
[04:13] <mi3> sorry *installed
[04:13] <Strav> Etherael: yes it works with h = 7, v = 1, nb = 7
[04:13] <urfr332gO> lotus-blade, here is link commonly given in the channel as well. http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[04:13] <erik32533> whats the future flash player
[04:13] <Etherael> setting to 7 for me just leaves 5.
[04:13] <erik32533> now that adobe is dropping linux
[04:14] <Etherael> h 7 v 1 nd 7
[04:14] <urfr332gO> lotus-blade, little different but it helps to have a few tools to pull from.
[04:14] <Strav> Etherael: try reloading compiz (it gets screwed easily)
[04:15] <Strav> erik32533: google chrome
[04:15] <brianp1992> version/
[04:15] <Strav> (google maintain their own flash player embedded in chrome)
[04:15] <mi3> ??
[04:15] <erik32533> what about gnash an lightspark
[04:15] <asstreks> I recently removed all my login managers. How do I log into the default UNITY interface?
[04:15] <Etherael> Strav: Restarting compiz = only 2 desktops
[04:15] <brianp1992> search "flash" in the package manager
[04:15] <zenon> Greetings earthlings
[04:15] <asstreks> I've gotten as  far as ctraltF4
[04:16] <Strav> Etherael: haha
[04:16] <Etherael> Strav: But when I messed with the settings again in ccsm, it went back up to five.
[04:16] <Etherael> :/
[04:16] <urfr332gO> asstreks, how did you remove them?
[04:16] <asstreks> sudo apt-get remove
[04:16] <Strav> erik32533: never tried them, they're the free/clean alternatives but flash sucks anyways. There's no long term future for those unless they implement html5 canvas or something.
[04:16] <urfr332gO> asstreks, sudo apt-get remove what?
[04:16] <erik32533> i assume gnash  is not very good
[04:16] <asstreks> i did it so i could be taken to xinitrc (am I using this right?) defaulty, so I could get into wmfs.
[04:16] <zenon> cool
[04:16] <asstreks> sudo apt-get remove gdm
[04:16] <mi3> I installed fortune-mod to display fortune cookies in the terminal, can you suggest how do I make them start every time automatically in the terminal?
[04:16] <asstreks> sudo apt-get remove lightdm
[04:17] <Etherael> Strav: Are you using cube switcher or some other switcher?
[04:17] <erik32533> can unity be remove ubuntu
[04:17] <urfr332gO> asstreks, use the recovery get to a cli and reinstall them if you want unity
[04:17] <xangua> !nounity | erik32533
[04:17] <Strav> Etherael: nope, just the plain wall.
[04:17] <Strav> (ubuntu 11.10)
[04:17] <asstreks> tsk ahhhhh
[04:17] <asstreks> tbh I don't really want unity
[04:18] <asstreks> I want wmfs. But I didn't configure it before i removed lightdm and gdm, so I'd just like to get into something that would allow me to configure it
[04:18] <urfr332gO> asstreks, then don't post stuff like this "I recently removed all my login managers. How do I log into the default UNITY interface?"
[04:18] <zenon> I found Xfce the other day =)
[04:18] <Etherael> Strav: could you possibly dpkg -S on the .so file for the wall plugin and tell me what package contains it? I don't even have it in my compiz setup (which is custom because I wanted to get rid of the broken compiz grid plugin in default)
[04:18] <asstreks> I just suggested Unity as a example...my bad
[04:18] <erik32533> one desktop i like is lxde
[04:19] <urfr332gO> asstreks, you want a headless setup?
[04:19] <urfr332gO> no X
[04:20] <asstreks> I want to be able to configure wmfs. Right now it's default and I'm pretty sure most of the default hotkeys don't allow me to configure it...
[04:20] <zenon> what distro comes with lxde?
[04:20] <asstreks> TOday is my first linux day, I don;t know what that is.
[04:20] <Strav> Etherael: if there could only be a proper grid in compiz, it would be soo sweet.
[04:20] <xangua> zenon: lubuntu
[04:20] <Strav> Etherael: let me find the -so
[04:20] <erik32533> goto package an install search for lxde
[04:20] <zenon> cheers, thought so
[04:20] <erik32533> package manager
[04:20] <Etherael> Strav: I fixed it if you want the package, assuming you mean the way oneiric broke the 1/3 2/3 1/2 thing that used to work in natty and below
[04:21] <zenon> I need to figure out networking with xfce
[04:21] <Etherael> Strav: http://quicksilver.umbralservices.com/eric/fixed_grid_oneiric.tar.bz2
[04:21] <zenon> not ditching u just yet
[04:21] <Ady> Please enter MySQL binaries directory (no trailing slash):      (can someone help me to with these? i duno what to tipe in)
[04:21] <Boo> Hello
[04:21] <Strav> Etherael: what I meant is a full blown tiling manager (no only splitting on the vertical) but I think grid has been able to do this at some point.
[04:22] <erik32533> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LXDE_desktop_full.png
[04:22] <erik32533> its very light weight
[04:22] <Strav> Etherael: I get: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern *./libwall.so*.
[04:22] <Strav>  
[04:22] <Etherael> Strav: grid splits into 8 sectors.
[04:23] <Strav> Etherael: hmmm. then I'll take a look :)
[04:23] <Etherael> Strav: It used to be that the way it worked was consistently you press a hotkey and the current window is alloc'd to a proportional area of that sector (eg, top right = half of top right of the screen) and then you press it again and it either grows or shrinks into the next sector ) (top right again = 1/3 top right)
[04:24] <Etherael> Strav: They broke it in oneiric to make it more consistent (no idea what that means but that's the official word) and now it works exactly like that, except for left and right allocations *ONLY* go to half the screen
[04:24] <Etherael> you can't have any other proportions
[04:24] <asstreks> ufr332g0, how would I get to a recovery?
[04:24] <Emi--> I've just download kubuntu iso image and burned it on a cd, but each time it tries to install it says " An error occured. Invalid Argument. For more information, please see the log file: c:\users\toshiba\appdata\local\temp\wubi-11.10-rev421.log "
[04:24] <Etherael> so you can't have a browser window with 2/3rd of screen + term window in top right and messenger window in bottom right with 1/3rd.
[04:24] <Emi--> Though Ive used the same cd on a different machine and it works well, any help pls ?
[04:25] <Strav> Etherael: consistent now means: we wish to reach dumb users so we'll ONLY provide a set of defaults that only dumb users will appreciate - evolution is just a myth.
[04:25] <urfr332gO> asstreks, second line in the grub menu.
[04:25] <Emi--> urfr332gO - Strav can u guys help me out pls?
[04:25] <asstreks> WHat is that?
[04:25] <Etherael> Strav: Have you ever heard of a dumb user that bothers with a tiling window manager plugin? That's kinda crazy sounding to me.
[04:26] <asstreks> Is this grub menu a guide?
[04:26] <urfr332gO> asstreks, or any kernel set
[04:26] <Strav> Etherael: my installed version for compiz is: 1:0.9.6+bzr20110929-0ubuntu6.1
[04:26] <asstreks> urfr332gO, I still don't understand.
[04:26] <urfr332gO> Emi--, sure don't install a wubi.
[04:26] <Strav> Etherael: but try disabling that grid plugin of yours and see if the virtual desktops increases properly
[04:26] <asstreks> no, I did install through wubi.
[04:26] <urfr332gO> asstreks, are you seeing a grub menu?
[04:27] <asstreks> i'm in windows 7 right now.
[04:27] <Emi--> urfr332gO, i tried booting it from the cd, it got stuck lol
[04:27] <asstreks> i don't what one looks like.
[04:27] <Etherael> Strav: I installed main plugins and got the wall thing and just intalled my fixed custom grid binary over the top of it and all is good now, well, at least I can see the plugins, trying toa ctually get the virtual desktops to work is another issue, but that's what I'm doing now.
[04:27] <Emi--> it works well on other machines
[04:27] <urfr332gO> Emi--, I know nothing about wubi really.
[04:27] <Emi--> urfr332gO well, how can I install it without wubi
[04:28] <asstreks> Thank you urfr332gO
[04:28] <Strav> Etherael: I was only pointing out the new trend in ubuntu of restricting the set of configs so that it'll match a general use-case while not caring at all for the advanced (unity panel's position is a good example at that)
[04:28] <urfr332gO> Emi--, you would boot the cd, makes sure the cd is good, check the md5sum, and make sure it was burnt as a image at a slow speed.
[04:29] <Emi--> whats md5sum?
[04:29] <Emi--> any recommended speed?
[04:29] <urfr332gO> !md5sum | Emi--
[04:29] <Strav> Etherael: what I was suggesting is just: disable a maximum of plugins to make sure they don't interfere witht the virtual desktop/wall behavior.
[04:29] <Emi--> Okay thanks :)
[04:29] <urfr332gO> Emi--, slowest possible speed and as a image.
[04:29] <Etherael> Strav: Yep, I get it, tried it, no joy.
[04:30] <Etherael> in fact the wall plugin is limiting me to four desktops again.
[04:30] <Etherael> interesting when I restarted compiz it auto aligned my virtual desktops in 2x2 formation.
[04:30] <Etherael> despite the 7x1x7 config in ccsm.
[04:30] <Emi--> urfr332gO am confused, how can I get the iso image on a cd without wubi?
[04:30] <Emi--> Once i burn it on a cd it has wubi automatically
[04:30] <Strav> Etherael: reset to defaults?
[04:31] <Etherael> Strav: I think that's what it might be doing, it's like there's a hardcoded 2x2 layout that you can't change.
[04:31] <urfr332gO> Emi--, you want to be aware of the limitations of primary partitions on a single HD as well only 4 max or 3 with a extended, that would hold a logical type partition for ubuntu and swap.
[04:31] <Etherael> Strav: and yeah, I agree, I think oneiric is a complete disaster.
[04:31] <Etherael> I'm pretty disgusted with it.
[04:31] <mi3> can I delete and place my own fortune cookies?
[04:31] <Strav> Etherael: well these are the defaults. What do you have as the config backend? (I'm using the gconf backend)
[04:31] <Emi--> urfr332gO I reached the select partion, and then I selected sd5 and set it to ext2, and then waited for like 5 mins, nothing happened..
[04:32] <urfr332gO> Emi--, ext2?
[04:32] <brianp1992> oneric was too much for me try xubuntu
[04:32] <Etherael> Strav: I am using XFCE now since natty,w hereas I used to use gnome2- classic
[04:32] <Etherael> I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
[04:32] <Etherael> I have not used xfce before
[04:32] <Emi--> the installation type
[04:32] <Etherael> I just hate unity.
[04:32] <Emi--> where it says fat32 or 16 or ntfs..
[04:32] <Emi--> I googled and got that ext2 is the best for linux
[04:33] <brianp1992> im runnung ext4
[04:33] <Random833> how do you switch between windows in a single app?
[04:33] <urfr332gO> Emi--,do you have your windows set up bacled up with a image you can reload if you mess up?
[04:33] <Random833> also, 1987 called, it wants its mac multitasking model back
[04:33] <urfr332gO> backed*
[04:33] <Emi--> urfr332gO yeah
[04:34] <Strav> Etherael: well I actually like unity for a lot of reasons but I just don't like this trend of oversimplification. There's really no difficulties in adding an advanced config panel somewhere. Perhaps they wish to start on a clean slate to properly handle the bugs added complexity would introduce but I fear this is not the case.
[04:34] <bonhoeffer> is there a way to chmod 755 (only directories)
[04:34] <urfr332gO> Emi--, cool it sounds like you may want to read up on dual booting a bit to be honest. The windows set up on many OEM installs covers 4 primary partitions.
[04:35] <Emi--> erm.. no idea what that means lol
[04:35] <Emi--> ill try installing ubuntu, am trying with kubuntu now
[04:35] <jiltdil> Emi--,  Actually ext2 is used for small size partition .we generally use this filesystem for /boot partition. And ext4 or ext3 is better for large partitons .
[04:36] <Emi--> i couldnt see any ext4 or 3..
[04:36] <Strav> Anyways, gotta go. There's a fine wine and a good movie waiting for me. cya all.
[04:36] <urfr332gO> Emi--, to be honest sisnce you don't understand what I just posted makes me worry look at this site.  http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/index.html
[04:36] <jiltdil> Emi--,  scrool to drop down menu you will see
[04:36] <Etherael> Strav: I can't think of any justification for the grid thing, it's expressly messing around in a piece of the system that nobody but a poweruser will ever even see, why do that to make the UX for newbies any different at all? doesn't make sense.
[04:37] <Emi--> ok thanks urfr332gO and jiltdil
[04:37] <Aerosonic> is hdparm installed on ubuntu by default?
[04:38] <jiltdil> Emi--, Anytime :)
[04:38] <Aerosonic> Is it included in the reps?
[04:38] <Etherael> Strav: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-plugins-main/+bug/878820/comments/15 <-- official explanation "consistency and to avoid confusion".. What? Normal users will never even know about that change.
[04:38] <urfr332gO> !info hdparm
[04:38] <Etherael> and it's confusing and inconsistent to have it behave differently for 2 out of 8 corner cases.
[04:38] <Aerosonic> Perfect.
[04:38] <urfr332gO> Etherael, ^^^
[04:39] <urfr332gO> Aerosonic, ^^^^ sorry Etherael
[04:39] <urfr332gO> Aerosonic, you see the bot info?
[04:39] <Strav> Etherael: they (benevolent dictator mr. Shuttlworth) basically gave the same reason for the unity panel's position, despit countless users begging for the ability to configure the position. (actually, there's a non-official plugin that's been released for that)
[04:40] <Aerosonic> urfr332gO: Yes.
[04:40] <Aerosonic> urfr332gO: Thanks.
[04:40] <Etherael> Strav: That at least I can almost sorta kind understand though, users do actually see that, they will actually notice which side it's on, it may be a stupid side, but if it must be consistent, that's at least internally logically coherent.
[04:40] <urfr332gO> Strav, lol benevolent from a colonial imperial format it means a whole other thang.
[04:41] <Etherael> This particular change is like coating the roads with a thin layer of putty to improve traction and then insisting that it's for consistency when people with a good sense of traction complain about it.
[04:41] <urfr332gO> Aerosonic, no problem hope that helps.:)
[04:41] <Etherael> normal drivers will not even notice your thin layer of putty
[04:41] <Etherael> laboured analogy.
[04:41] <Etherael> but it's just weird.
[04:41] <Etherael> I'd love to hear a non ridiculous explanation.
[04:42] <urfr332gO> Etherael, how about if you don't like it find a OS you do.
[04:42] <Etherael> urfr332gO: Why would I do that? I just fixed it.
[04:42] <jiltdil> !info 12.04
[04:42] <Etherael> urfr332gO: Just because I can fix it, doesn't mean it ought to have been broken, though.
[04:42] <urfr332gO> Etherael, cool.
[04:42] <Strav> Etherael: I'm all for consistency, this is what defaults are for; but then, you have no reason restricting the options unless as I said, you wish to gradually manage the options you offer, precisely to offer well tested and stable options (which is not even the case in all the latest 3 releases of ubuntu)
[04:42] <urfr332gO> jiltdil, #ubuntu+1 for that
[04:43] <urfr332gO> Etherael, you tweaked compiz right?
[04:43] <Etherael> Strav: Yeah, that particular plugin doesn't even have any options aside from what you want to set your hotkeys to, so nothing was changed in terms of options, it's just weird.
[04:43] <Etherael> urfr332gO: I recompiled grid from upstream where it isn't broken.
[04:43] <Etherael> and then just blew away the broken version with the unbroken version.
[04:44] <urfr332gO> Etherael, outb of the release your running right.
[04:44] <Etherael> urfr332gO: Yeah out of oneiric.
[04:44] <Etherael> and I posted my fix to the bug tracker in case anyone else wanted it.
[04:44] <urfr332gO> Etherael, if you had left it alone it would not have broken. When you customize it your complaints are moot basically.
[04:45] <Etherael> urfr332gO: You're not listening. It's broken on purpose, they did that, they admitted that they did it, and they said it was for consistency and to reduce confusion.
[04:45] <Etherael> urfr332gO: It's a completely ridiculous explanation and the ticket is full of people saying so.
[04:45] <Strav> urfr332gO: you're preaching for linux fragmentation. Alternatives are good but some things require a common and cohesive effort - and the opinions of the people involved in those projects should be taken in account.
[04:45] <urfr332gO> lol
[04:46] <fulcan> error = /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /pentest/forensics/testdisk/linux/: No such file or directory    right after I emerge it and no bin can be found to launch it???
[04:48] <Strav> anyways, I'm out. see ya
[04:51] <Etherael> What's up with ssh key passphrases now asking every single time they're used on a shell rather than using the ssh agent?
[04:52] <JadedJacob> How can I disable certain devices in ubuntu?
[04:52] <JadedJacob> sound, LAN, firewire, etc
[04:54] <soreau> JadedJacob: The sure fire way is to find out what kernel module is driving the device and unload it
[04:54] <fulcan> error = /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /pentest/forensics/testdisk/linux/: No such file or directory    right after I emerge it and no bin can be found to launch it???
[04:55] <JadedJacob> I want to save power on my laptop :)
[04:56] <urfr332gO> fulcan, you running backtrack?
[04:57] <soreau> JadedJacob: The general consensus is that the graphics device and monitor use the most power. Power consumption largely depends on how your graphics driver handles the task
[04:57] <fulcan> urfr332gO I meant to say apt-get
[04:57] <fulcan> urfr332gO yes
[04:57] <pbandj> I accidentally moved my downloads folder while i access my machine via ftp. I think it dragged to a hidden folder. I tried using reguar search to locate it with no luck. Is there a command i can use in terminal to locate it?  Or locate a file within it?   Thanks
[04:57] <soreau> JadedJacob: Depending on what you use your laptop for and what graphic hardware you have, there are a variety of things you can do to save power
[04:58] <urfr332gO> fulcan, we can't really help with that distro, there are a number of channels for them though.
[04:59] <ignoredthoughts> Does anyone know any good computer programming or comp science irc channels?
[04:59] <Fuego> hello
[04:59] <ignoredthoughts> bonjour
[04:59] <ignoredthoughts> hola
[04:59] <ignoredthoughts> hi
[04:59] <urfr332gO> ignoredthoughts, you can serach or get a list of channels if that helps
[04:59] <ignoredthoughts> urfr how?
[04:59] <urfr332gO> search*
[05:00] <ignoredthoughts> rather what's the command?
[05:00] <soreau> ignoredthoughts: There is ##programming and generally, ##<language>
[05:00] <urfr332gO> ignoredthoughts, I don't know the freenode commands, but what IRC app are you running?
[05:00] <ignoredthoughts> i just hit up java
[05:00] <ignoredthoughts> Xchat
[05:00] <ignoredthoughts> thanks for the ##programming one
[05:01] <urfr332gO> ignoredthoughts, right click the post part of the gui then server then list
[05:01] <ignoredthoughts> does anyone know the keyboard shortcut to switch between chats for Xchat?
[05:01] <urfr332gO> list of channels
[05:01] <Fuego> i disabled gui and hide grub. during bootup, i cant see services that are being loaded since it has somewhat coloer violet or something coverinf the screen. i can only see the console prompt after the service had been started.
[05:02] <ignoredthoughts> is there a terminal version of IRC?
[05:02] <Fuego> is that a gpu issue since i have a GT430 ?
[05:02] <gopi> !can anyone tell how to run hosts on virtual machine in a ubuntu server?
[05:03] <gopi> can anyone tell how to run hosts on virtual machine in a ubuntu server?
[05:05] <ignoredthoughts> urfr332gO, is there a type command for list of channels?
[05:05] <pbandj> Any ideas on how i can find where my download folder went?   I think it might be in a hidden dir. I tried locate file_name. And find ~/ -iname 'some file' but the both returned nothing
[05:05] <ignoredthoughts> and is there any actual terminal IRC programs
[05:05] <ignoredthoughts> ???
[05:05] <urfr332gO> ignoredthoughts, there is but I don't know it but if you google list channels freenode you will get it I would think.
[05:06] <ignoredthoughts> urfr332gO, bonus and many thank you
[05:06] <urfr332gO> ignoredthoughts, no problem.
[05:06] <pbandj> Hmm ok locate Downloads says its in /home/ubuntu/downloads but i do not see it there
[05:07] <gopi> !whoami
[05:07] <gopi> @whoami
[05:07] <urfr332gO> pbandj, what are you trying to do?
[05:07] <pbandj> Im trying to find where the folder went. I accidentally dragged it somewhere
[05:08] <pbandj> Urfr332gO
[05:08] <gopi> !hello
[05:08] <urfr332gO> pbandj, you running without X
[05:09] <danny> hey i just install lubuntu on a friends computer install went fine and everything worked then i updated his computer and his internet doesnt conect anymore (he useing direct eathernet conection
[05:09] <pbandj> I have x urfr332gO but regualr find returned nothing
[05:09] <ignoredthoughts> Danny
[05:09] <Salinas-MG> buenas noches
[05:09] <flavio> ola todos
[05:09] <ignoredthoughts> are you using a wireless connection?
[05:10] <danny> ignoredthoughts, no direct conection
[05:10] <Salinas-MG> puedes me ayudar com el problema
[05:10] <urfr332gO> pbandj, I just use the search in home generally, not sure really.
[05:10] <Salinas-MG> hablas espanõl
[05:10] <ignoredthoughts> danny; can you open /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[05:10] <ignoredthoughts> and tell me what the true or false value is?
[05:10] <urfr332gO> !es | Salinas-MG
[05:10] <ignoredthoughts> for [ifupdown]
[05:10] <ignoredthoughts> ?
[05:11] <Salinas-MG> gracias
[05:11] <ignoredthoughts> and what Lubuntu build?
[05:11] <urfr332gO> Salinas-MG, no problem. :)
[05:11] <danny> ignoredthoughts, yes can u give me the code or tell me how to open it i am a linux noob myself but i know how to install but it is 11.10
[05:12] <ignoredthoughts> open the terminal
[05:13] <JadedJacob> Can disable modules on a livecd?
[05:13] <pbandj> Anyone else know of a way i can find this downloads folder?
[05:13] <JadedJacob> my notebook is running a geforce4 2go
[05:14] <zykotick9> i
[05:14] <urfr332gO> pbandj, it is in home
[05:14] <urfr332gO> and Downloads
[05:15] <starn> hello i am in need of assistance i need a program like easybcd for linux.  i just got a computer for $40 from a friend and the bootmgr is messed up it can boot via usb i am actually on it right now.  so does anyone know a program like easybcd for linux that is free?
[05:15] <urfr332gO> starn, there is not one what is the OS's?
[05:16] <urfr332gO> are*
[05:17] <starn> easybcd supports setting up windows bootloader to support multiple system including linux which i use on my main machine.. i need away to fix the windows bootloader while using linux for this machine.
[05:18] <urfr332gO> starn,  if you identify the OS's we might jst be able to fix it.
[05:18] <urfr332gO> just
[05:18] <starn> windows vista 64 bit is installed on the machine
[05:18] <starn> the boot manager is broken
[05:18] <starn> i am on linux via usb
[05:19] <urfr332gO> starn, if that is all use the ##windows channel they will be your best help
[05:19] <starn> but i am in linux
[05:19] <starn> i want to use linux to fix the bootloader
[05:19] <urfr332gO> starn, or install u8buntu and let grub do the boot.
[05:19] <starn> for windows will not boot
[05:20] <yakko> starn: that's why we don't use windows at all
[05:20] <hydrox24> starn: Is letting grub do the booting acceptable?
[05:21] <yakko> starn: install first windows, then ubuntu, so no mistake =)
[05:21] <nisita> hi
[05:21] <starn> i used to use grub but it often stopped working for me after updates.
[05:21] <urfr332gO> yakko, read the scroll back.
[05:21] <nisita> any body is there
[05:22] <hydrox24> !someone | nisita
[05:22] <starn> i prefer linux but i hate grup.. go figure
[05:22] <pbandj> Urfr332rO i mentioned earlier that it is not in home
[05:22] <yakko> urfr332gO: my bad, I though I was apache channel
[05:22] <hydrox24> starn: fair enough, why do you hate grub though? LILO could be what you want, though it is kinda old now.
[05:23] <bonhoeffer> how can i copy a long string without newlines from a terminal window
[05:23] <urfr332gO> yakko, easy mistake. :)
[05:23] <starn> i hate grub due to the fact it often stops working for me and when that happens i am un able to boot into any OS unless i use a windows cd to fix.
[05:24] <collimic> Not sure if this is the right place but I have a major problem with my ubuntu 10.04 server. php5 will not install after I did upgrades from 8.10 I get dependencies errors.
[05:24] <yakko> urfr332gO: I'm here because these fonts are killing me, how do I get windows fonts?
[05:24] <hydrox24> starn: Sorry for the bad luck that you've had. I can understand that it would be problematic installing grub w/out windows
[05:24] <hydrox24> *linux*
[05:24] <urfr332gO> yakko, the restricted-extras have ms fonts
[05:25] <urfr332gO> yakko, if your running a server though yiou would not use that app I beleive.
[05:25] <pbandj> Found the folder.
[05:25] <hydrox24> yakko: you can also simply copy the fonts off of the windows partition into linux's fonts folder
[05:25] <L3top> yakko apt-get install msttcorefonts
[05:25] <yakko> urfr332gO hydrox24: I'm on a plain ubuntu10.10 fully installed to my hd, no partitions or vms
[05:26] <yakko> I think I installed the windows fonts, but now they look worse
[05:26] <yakko> it's unreadable, my head aches
[05:27] <L3top> collimic: can you pastebin the output of /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:27] <urfr332gO> yakko, in the terminal sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:27] <yakko> urfr332gO: I want to undo what I did first
[05:27] <collimic> not sure how to pastebin in the web client
[05:28] <L3top> pastebin.com
[05:28] <urfr332gO> yakko, go to appearance and set up the fonts, also that release has only a couple of months to being end of life.
[05:28] <L3top> then give the url
[05:29] <loop_> olaol
[05:29] <loop_> ola
[05:29] <starn> does the grub on my ubuntu install for my external hard drive detect new OS'S???
[05:29] <collimic> ok I pasted it there how di I get it to you
[05:30] <L3top> just copy the url
[05:30] <L3top> paste it here
[05:30] <collimic> http://pastebin.com/qw0hMNL8
[05:30] <loop_> aloooo
[05:30] <urfr332gO> starn, grub 2 does yes which has been the grub since lucid
[05:30] <covi> Hi. What is the Ubuntu equivalent of /etc/initab?
[05:30] <loop_> hi
[05:31] <starn> ok so if i reboot use USB boot load into grub than boot up into windows? if windows is not broken?
[05:31] <motherbrain> is their anybody out their that knows of a c Api that will allow you to plot routes on a map.
[05:31] <L3top> I dont know what those first two unhashed ones are.
[05:31] <urfr332gO> starn, you have to basically have ubuntu installed.
[05:31] <L3top> did you add them?
[05:32] <collimic> what 2?
[05:32] <L3top> deb http://packages.dotdeb.org/ stable all
[05:32] <L3top> deb-src http://packages.dotdeb.org/ stable all
[05:32] <starn> it's on my external and i am trying to repair windows boot manager on a computer i just got.. and i used the external drive i install ubuntu to.. using my main computer...  and if grub automatically can scan with out having to reinstall ubuntu would be great
[05:32] <L3top> just not familiar with them is all...
[05:33] <collimic> I had to add them for 8.10 to work a few years ago
[05:33] <yakko> urfr332gO: how do I restart the window manager only?
[05:33] <collimic> I can remove then and I get the same errors.
[05:33] <L3top> I would hash them
[05:33] <L3top> and add a bunch
[05:33] <L3top> one second.
[05:33] <urfr332gO> yakko, not sure in that release.
[05:33] <yakko> urfr332gO: usually...
[05:34] <hydrox24> motherbrain: I would say that there is inbuilt capabilities for that in google earth if you don't actually need to do it in C
[05:34] <urfr332gO> yakko, I only know oneitrc which is running compiz you don't have that.
[05:34] <Chenwoyoung> hi
[05:35] <collimic> http://pastebin.com/EJaaAAiY is the errors I am getting.
[05:35] <urfr332gO> yakko, I think have metacity just guessing here logout then back in.
[05:35] <Chenwoyoung> hey
[05:36] <motherbrain> well , I am kind of writting a visual traceroute program so I kind of need a c api for it. And away to have a really detailed visual map such as google maps. The only current way I know of leveraging google maps is thur a scripting language like javascript... that won't due
[05:36] <Chenwoyoung> yes
[05:36] <Chenwoyoung> busyed
[05:36] <L3top> collimic: this is a new 1004 sources.list http://pastebin.com/iXAc02s9
[05:37] <L3top> of kubuntu... but... lucid is lucid.
[05:38] <L3top> those are all ubuntu.com
[05:38] <collimic> ok tring it now
[05:38] <L3top> I would suggest you always be careful adding sources from strangers
[05:38] <L3top> apt-get update
[05:38] <L3top> after sources added
[05:38] <yakko_> hey guys, just wanted to say I didn't install that package but my fonts look great again after removing the shoot I'd done
[05:39] <collimic> updating now
[05:39] <Chenwoyoung> berisikkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[05:39] <Chenwoyoung> qwertyuiop
[05:39] <L3top> collimic... before trying to install
[05:39] <urfr332gO> L3top, that is why this works great.
[05:39] <urfr332gO> http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[05:39] <Chenwoyoung> help me please
[05:39] <L3top> apt-get install --dry-run php5
[05:40] <L3top> just to be sure...
[05:40] <L3top> ty urfr332gO
[05:40] <collimic> whats the --dry-run do?
[05:40] <L3top> it means "lets simulate what would happen if I did this instead of break things"
[05:41] <collimic> looks like it might have worked. what is the now ubuntu 10.04 command to restart apache2
[05:41] <L3top> assuming it doesn't lead to dependency hell... then run it
[05:41] <L3top> without the dry-run
[05:41] <L3top> might do an apt-get upgrade as well.
[05:42] <collimic> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:43] <collimic> L3top, I love you man. I have been working on this for 14 hours
[05:43] <collimic> it works
[05:43] <konza> Hi all , I am using ubuntu 11.10. I liked it very much except one thing (Grouping of windows of same applications). Is there any way to ungroup that.. Please help
[05:43] <collimic> all my virtuals are back online
[05:45] <Chenwoyoung> 123
[05:46] <L3top> :)
[05:47] <Chenwoyoung> 0-0
[05:47] <Chenwoyoung> hey
[05:47] <Chenwoyoung> please help me...
[05:47] <Chenwoyoung> please....
[05:48] <Ben64> Chenwoyoung: try turning it off and then on again
[05:48] <konza> Please help
[05:49] <Ben64> !pm | Chenwoyoung
[05:49] <urfr332gO> konza, using the help is not advised you have to have some patience here it is free help.
[05:50] <Federal> Thank you again L3top
[05:51] <L3top> np
[05:51] <stiltzkin> Hello folks, just had a really quick question I'm hoping someone knows something about. I've noticed that after installing 11.04 (been dealing with this for a while), GRUB takes 2 boots to let me start an entry. In other words, if I start up my computer and pick Ubuntu, the screen just displays solid blue and nothing happens. If I press & hold the power button and reboot, I can then boot up properly. I should mention I use
[05:51] <stiltzkin> dm-crypt on my /, I assume that probably has something to do with it. Not a mission-critical issue but just something that's been bothering me. I have to reset my computer many more times than I used to.
[05:52] <cschroeder> Hey guys, I need a basic terminal tutorial for my gf. Anyone have a suggestion of one they've liked?
[05:52] <Chenwoyoung> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[05:52] <urfr332gO> stiltzkin, could it be a graphic driver needed.
[05:52] <stiltzkin> cschroeder, I liked the Bash Cookbook
[05:52] <cschroeder> stiltzkin: Is that freely available?
[05:52] <Chenwoyoung> 1234567890
[05:52] <Ben64> Chenwoyoung: stop spamming
[05:52] <urfr332gO> !op | Chenwoyoung
[05:53] <cschroeder> stiltzkin: I don't mind paying for something, but I'd like something I can get immediately.
[05:53] <stiltzkin> urfr332gO, graphic driver? Not sure if that would have anything to do with it. This is before I even get to start the OS
[05:53] <Chipzzz> any bind9 experts in the audience?
[05:53] <Chenwoyoung> 12
[05:53] <hydrox24> !anyone | Chipzzz
[05:54] <ludwin01> hello everyone..i need help with a webcam..im using ubuntu 10.04 lts webcam is brand omega
[05:54] <urfr332gO> stiltzkin, "if I start up my computer and pick Ubuntu, the screen just displays solid blue and nothing happens" this is post grub.
[05:54] <stiltzkin> cschroeder, no it's an o'reilly book, but you may or may not be able to find it online easily for free (but you didn't hear that from me of course)
[05:55] <hydrox24> ludwin01: just chuck your actuall issue out there bro! if someone can help they will!
[05:55] <urfr332gO> stiltzkin, not sure why it would work with 2 attempts but look in additional drivers.
[05:56] <stiltzkin> urfr332gO, I'm fairly sure this is a problem with GRUB. The default background on my GRUB select screen is light blue - if I select an entry on a cold boot the text just immediately disappears leaving me with a solid blue background. On the second boot the same blank screen appears, but disappears after 5-10 seconds and I'm greeted with the crypt unlock screen
[05:56] <Chenwoyoung> hey
[05:56] <Chenwoyoung> can help me
[05:56] <Chenwoyoung> can me install photoshop CS3 Portable?
[05:56] <Chenwoyoung> in ubuntu
[05:56] <Chenwoyoung> ?
[05:56] <Chipzzz> I'm trying to start named (the bind9 daemon) and it exits with a "/etc/bind/named.conf.local:9: unknown option 'zone'" error... the option is described as valid in an online ubuntu manual page - any ideas?
[05:56] <stiltzkin> urfr332gO, I just think it's especially curious that it has to be every other boot...like what would possibly cause that? It's perfectly reproducible.
[05:56] <cschroeder> stiltzkin: That's not what I meant. I'm not looking to pirate something. I just want to have a nice guide she can follow to get a basic orientation of working in the terminal.
[05:56] <cschroeder> stiltzkin: Something she can refer to while I'm at work etc. etc.
[05:56] <urfr332gO> stiltzkin, well it is difficult to help those that are sure, good luck.:)
[05:57] <hydrox24> Chenwoyoung: you should be able to without too much trouble using WINE, however it would be good if you could try and put more info on less lines ;)
[05:57] <Chenwoyoung> but my portable cs3 open with wine
[05:57] <Chenwoyoung> why not work
[05:57] <ludwin01> my webcam output is wrong i tried the came pkgs, camorama, cheese defaults pkgs and only worked one time..after restart...wrong output again
[05:58] <stiltzkin> cschroeder, I gotcha. Maybe this one? http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/ Haven't used it myself but it looks pretty comprehensive (and easy for beginners)
[05:59] <stiltzkin> cschroeder, I'm not sure if you mean bash in particular either, or just basic Linux commands...there should be some overlap either way
[06:03] <urfr332gO> !info dm-crypt
[06:03] <urfr332gO> stiltzkin, dm-crypt appears to be a 3rd party nobody here may be familiar you might try ##linux
[06:05] <urfr332gO> you have to be registered with freenode though.
[06:05] <M4dH4TT3r> umpa lumpas
[06:05] <Etherael> Whenever I start compiz, no matter what virtual desktop settings I have, ti always defaults to 2x2 virt/horiz. I can change this to a max of five, but no higher than that, and I have to change the layout to the way I want it *EVERY SINGLE TIME*
[06:05] <Etherael> does anyone know what causes this?
[06:06] <Etherael> oneiric, just installed, XFCE4
[06:08] <crdueck> is gparted included in the default software on the livecd version of 11.10?
[06:08] <stiltzkin> urfr332gO, dm-crypt is a disk encryption handler included with Ubuntu
[06:09] <stiltzkin> urfr332gO, but thanks for the suggestion
[06:09] <lana> join #php
[06:09] <thevinci> any advice for overclocking?
[06:09] <urfr332gO> !info dm-crypt
[06:09] <lana> hai all
[06:09] <t_port> hi
[06:09] <lana> am need join to php who i do
[06:09] <thevinci> not finding much of use on google atm
[06:09] <urfr332gO> stiltzkin, which release are you running?
[06:10] <thevinci> need to know better what to look for
[06:10] <lana> am need join to php who i do any body know
[06:10] <foxxtrot> Does anyone have any advice on diagnosing a printer where CUPS says the print job succeeded, but the printer itself never responds?
[06:10] <lana> am have probelm,. for php
[06:10] <stiltzkin> urfr332gO, I don't think it's a package that you would find in the repos, though it might be under LUKS. I'm currently running 10.04 on this machine
[06:10] <lana> on my ubuntu, am need ask.... on php channel
[06:10] <urfr332gO> stiltzkin, cool, I was just saying the help here may be sparse.
[06:11] <lana> urfr332gO, did you know php channel ?
[06:11] <urfr332gO> lana, never used it.
[06:12] <stiltzkin> urfr332gO, you're right, just thought I'd ask here first since it's actually a  pretty common installation option.
[06:12] <stiltzkin> !info cryptsetup
[06:12] <Luzbel> hola?
[06:12] <thevinci> any over clock advice? Maybe another channel I could ask in?
[06:12] <urfr332gO> lana, you need the channel address?
[06:12] <lana> try join #php.net what happen on thare
[06:13] <stiltzkin> thevinci, not sure about overclocking, but I did modify my CPU frequencies for underclocking with a project called linux-phc, which you might want to google. That's about all I know.
[06:13] <urfr332gO> lana, it is ##php
[06:13] <lana> urfr332gO, what mean.?
[06:13] <thevinci> thanks stiltz thats a start
[06:14] <Amon> hi. i have a question about the trash folder: in the directory ~/.local/share/Trash/info is a .trashinfo file for each and every file i ever deleted. is it safe to remove all these files? (over 3000 files present)
[06:14] <urfr332gO> lana, I have no idea what you want just trying to help, uyou addressed me first.
[06:14] <lana> urfr332gO, try /join #php.net am have ready on thare ?
[06:14] <urfr332gO> lana, it redirects to ##php
[06:14] <lana> i do know how to addressed you urfr332gO, so ... join on thare ?
[06:15] <mi3> Hi!
[06:15] <stiltzkin> Amon, I'm 90% sure that's safe to delete since it's in .local...maybe someone can confirm for me.
[06:16] <thevinci> no go, its just for undervolting
[06:17] <ttt> i'm on 10.04.  When I run tail -f x.txt | ls (x.txt is just some ascii file ) I get behavior I don't understand.  It alternates between returning to the command prompt, and me having to do cntl-c to get back to the prompt.  What's going on?
[06:17] <stiltzkin> thevinci, yeah sorry about that...just read that myself. Thought it might be for OC and UC. There must be entire communities dedicated to OC if you google "linux overclocking" or "ubuntu overclocking" no? I imagine most of the procedures involve compiling custom kernels.
[06:18] <thevinci> i'm not pulling up anything useful
[06:18] <thevinci> just utilities to monitor cpu freq and voltage/temp
[06:19] <mi3> I seem to have a problem with my .bashrc script here is the paste http://pastebin.com/D3rS0sBG and here is the image http://imagebin.org/200852
[06:20] <thevinci> its very frustrating
[06:20] <stiltzkin> thevinci, you may want to google around for your specific hardware rather than the general searches then. OC is difficult on certain chipsets, etc
[06:20] <mi3> when i write a long sentence it replaces the entire second line with the text it seems
[06:20] <thevinci> thanks, i'm figuring out my specs now
[06:20] <mi3> maybe someone can help me out
[06:21] <williamchan> i just restarted my xubuntu. im able to login, but my desktop background isn't loading properly... the wallpaper is blank and I cant right click on my desktop anymore... what gives?
[06:21] <williamchan> my WM is xfce
[06:22] <ttt> Amon:  Is your trash empty?  I only have two file in info and my empunged and files folders are both empty.
[06:22] <din> williamchan: try running 'xfdesktop'
[06:22] <williamchan> din: thanks it works
[06:22] <Amon> trash is totally empty
[06:22] <williamchan> din: any idea whats wrong? let me restart and see if it still autoloads
[06:23] <Amon> so i suppose i can delete those files
[06:23] <stiltzkin> mi3, maybe try resetting your .bashrc to default? Try making a backup of your current one and then copying /etc/bash/bash.bashrc to ~/.bashrc
[06:23] <williamchan> din: kkk restarting it still auto loads now . any ideas what happened before?
[06:24] <mi3> i have a backup already stiltzkin but i want my existing one so can you suggest whats wrong?
[06:24] <din> none whatesoever.
[06:24] <Dustin3> KKK
[06:24] <stiltzkin> mi3, unfortunately I'm not familiar enough with that file to tell you what's going wrong there. I'm sure someone else can help...sorry about that.
[06:24] <mi3> stiltzkin i think the problem definately is in line 53 but i cant figure it out
[06:25] <mi3> ok thanks 4 ur time stiltzkin
[06:25] <mi3> I seem to have a problem with my .bashrc script here is the paste http://pastebin.com/D3rS0sBG and here is the image http://imagebin.org/200852
[06:26] <mi3> in the paste, there is some error in line 53, can someone suggest me whats wrong?
[06:27] <williamchan> mi3: compare it with the default bashrc ... or you can try deleteing that line and check if it still works
[06:28] <ttt> Amon:  I'm on 10.04.  I just moved something to trash,  the info file showed up, but when I emptied the trash, the file was removed.
[06:28] <mi3> williamchan, cant you tell me whats wrong? its guaranteed to be in line 53 in that paste ?
[06:29] <williamchan> mi3: nope . that line is what defines your prompt .. i.e. your >
[06:29] <mi3> williamchan, have you ,too, modified your terminal?
[06:31] <mi3> williamchan?
[06:32] <neoplus__> hi
[06:33] <neoplus__> ubuntu bridge captive portal ?
[06:39] <L3top> netsplit
[06:39] <danny> does anyone know of a good audio play /cd burner for the lubuntu version of ubuntu that works well rythmbox and banshee wont work for different reasons
[06:40] <someh4x0r> Hello. I'm trying to install ubuntu 11.10 on the 2011 macbook air. I'm using instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir4-2. However, whenever I try to boot the USB disk, it boots windows instead. Does anybody know how to fix this?
[06:43] <kuldeepdhaka> help----i installed minimial ubuntu and now its loading but cannot load ubuntu os....[bootloader is showing up]
[06:43] <neoplus_1> hi
[06:44] <hydrox24> someh4x0r: Do you already have OSX dual-booted with windows?
[06:44] <kuldeepdhaka> [06:44] <kuldeepdhaka> [06:44] <din> someh4x0r: i think you can hold the option key when booting to choose a disk to boot to
[06:45] <kuldeepdhaka> help----i installed minimial ubuntu and now its loading but cannot load ubuntu os....[bootloader is showing up]
[06:45] <someh4x0r> I already have windows. I tried using both refit and holding down option. When I select the USB disk, it boots windows
[06:45] <Guest53842> i know this isnt the place but is there an android script that will auto update apps at a certain time?
[06:45] <kuldeepdhaka> help----i installed minimial ubuntu and now its loading but cannot load ubuntu os....[bootloader is showing up]
[06:45] <hydrox24> someh4x0r:  are there any more options that might be your actual USB?
[06:46] <kuldeepdhaka> [06:46] <kuldeepdhaka> help----i installed minimial ubuntu and now its loading but cannot load ubuntu os....[bootloader is showing up]
[06:46] <hydrox24> kuldeepdhaka: If the bootloader is showing, then what happens if you choose the normal ubuntu OS
[06:46] <hydrox24> kuldeepdhaka: Also, if no-one responds, that probably means no-one can help so please stop spamming
[06:47] <someh4x0r> When I hold option, I get rEFIt, Windows (on hard drive), Recovery HD, and Windows (orange, flash drive, actually contains ubuntu). Selecting the orange "Windows" disk makes it boot windows on the hard drive instead of ubuntu
[06:47] <kuldeepdhaka> hydrox24, i installed minimial ubuntu ,bootloader is loading but after that i cannot see anything ,,,,,i read a tutorail in which it is not expected
[06:47] <din> someh4x0r: sounds like windows is on your usb ;)
[06:47] <hydrox24> kuldeepdhaka: do you mean the GRUB menu by "bootloader"?
[06:48] <kuldeepdhaka> yes grub
[06:48] <kuldeepdhaka> grub2
[06:48] <someh4x0r> No, I'm sure windows isn't on the USB. I just formatted the USB.
[06:48] <hydrox24> kuldeepdhaka: can't you use the up/down keys to change to the OS/Kernel you want?
[06:48] <Juvenal> hello, im having some issues with my sound card under ubuntu 11.10
[06:49] <hydrox24> Juvenal: What sound card are you using and what is your actual issue?
[06:49] <Juvenal> every time a new track plays it shuts off the subwoofer
[06:49] <Juvenal> but nothing changes under the sound settings panel
[06:49] <Juvenal> it still says its in 5.1 mode, and changing it to 4.1/5.1 at this point make the sub come back on
[06:50] <Juvenal> but only till the current stream is done, soon as a new one starts its back to the beginning
[06:50] <kuldeepdhaka> hydrox24, i can use the grub menu but when i click to load minimal ubuntu i cant see anything ...no responce from that point of time
[06:50] <someh4x0r> I just tried using an external CD drive. That just hangs on a black screen. ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't give me a text terminal either
[06:50] <Etherael> http://pastie.org/3461258 <-- where might this handle be registered from? it is ignoring my settings from ccsm until I make them manually every time and driving me up the wall.
[06:51] <Juvenal> hydrox24, its an asus xonar DG
[06:51] <someh4x0r> ok, i got the isolinux menu to show up
[06:51] <Juvenal> it has a C-Media CMI8786 on it
[06:52] <din> someh4x0r: i am using ubuntu on a macbook air right now. i can tell you all i had to do was use the usb-creator-gtk app to build the install on a usb drive and it just worked.
[06:53] <hydrox24> kuldeepdhaka: just checking... by "click" I am gonna assume you mean "hitting enter key"
[06:53] <kuldeepdhaka> hydrox24, click means enter key
[06:54] <hydrox24> kuldeepdhaka: OK, and do your other OS's still work? if so, what OS's are they?
[06:54] <kuldeepdhaka> hydrox24,no other os on system
[06:55] <john_doe_jr> how do I use grep to search for an exact phrase "this text here" grep -r "this text here" /var/www/etc
[06:56] <someh4x0r> ok, i can get the cd to boot. I can't get usb's created using the "setup_mac_usb_boot.sh" script to work
[06:57] <kuldeepdhaka> i have a old hardware on which i wanted to install minimial ubuntu,,,,,the installation was fine[showed some error in installing but i intsalled the bootloader somehow],,grub is loading but when i press enter to load ubuntu nothing shows up,,,,i was doing with the help of a tutorail
[06:58] <kuldeepdhaka> hydrox24,i have a old hardware on which i wanted to install minimial ubuntu,,,,,the installation was fine[showed some error in installing but i intsalled the bootloader somehow],,grub is loading but when i press enter to load ubuntu nothing shows up,,,,i was doing with the help of a tutorail,,,,,
[06:58] <din> kuldeepdhaka: give this a shot: add rdblacklist=nouveau to the end of your kernel entry in grub then boot it
[06:59] <someh4x0r> is ubuntu on mac using gpt?
[06:59] <kuldeepdhaka> din,what will that perform,,,
[06:59] <din> kuldeepdhaka: if you have the nouveau driver it will disable it.
[06:59] <M4dH4TT3r> QUESTION: wHY IS IT WHEN I TROLL EVERYONE LOVES ME, BUT WHEN I ASK A VALID QUESTION I AM CONFRONTED BY MORONS AND CALLED A TROLL? ANWSER: IRC HAS BEEN OVERRUN BY NAZI TEENAGERS IN RECENT YEARS
[06:59] <din> and if it works then you know that is your issue.
[06:59] <hydrox24> kuldeepdhaka: try choosing the ubuntu-minimal option, then wait a minute or so, then hit the ctrl-alt-F1 key combo
[07:00] <hydrox24> kuldeepdhaka: that will change it to a terminal and tell us if the issue is with X or the graphics card or if you truly have a non-booting system
[07:00] <kuldeepdhaka> hydrox24, ok
[07:01] <hydrox24> M4dH4TT3r: Fair point, but please share it on ubuntu-offtopic
[07:01] <M4dH4TT3r> OK
[07:01] <kuldeepdhaka> hydrox24, i will return i a while i have to change the screen to see i will tell u if it work
[07:04] <hydrox24> M4dH4TT3r: Admittedly I am a teen too :) but  I reckon I ain't a nazi.
[07:04] <gEO_> Hello
[07:04] <gEO_> I installed ndiswrapper,, But now it gives me cpu stall error  on startup and doesnt boot
[07:05] <gEO_> Any idea how to fix it?
[07:05] <someh4x0r> gEO_: it would help if you mentioned what driver you were trying to use under ndiswrapper
[07:05] <gEO_> bcm4313
[07:06] <gEO_> bcmlw5
[07:06] <gEO_> i meant
[07:06] <hydrox24> gEO_: when you say that it doesn't boot, can you be any more specific about the symptoms?
[07:09] <rsMed> Hello! Why is it that some man command returns text from Linux Programmer's manual and other from User Commands? When I did man stdin, the title said 'Linux Programmer's Manual' and man cat gives 'User Commands'. Whereas man scp gives 'BSD General Commands Manual'... And how can I get comlete Linux users manul or Users command
[07:09] <kuldeepdhaka> hydrox24, i can see the moving dots of ubuntu [it is loading ] but i m unable to see the terminal,,,
[07:09] <gEO_> it just stays black for a while then says   " iNFO  rcu_sched_state detected stall on CPU 2 t= 15000 jiffies
[07:09] <gEO_> even in recovery mode
[07:09] <kuldeepdhaka> hydrox24, it is taking time
[07:09] <someh4x0r> What does the "downloading language packs" part of the installer do? It takes forever to run
[07:10] <gEO_> It can be CPU0 CPU1 or 3 everytime
[07:10] <someh4x0r> gEO_: doesn't brcmsmac support your wifi card?
[07:11] <gEO_> I was getting frequent disconnections
[07:11] <gEO_> and problems with sharing and all
[07:11] <`Korvin> how can I stop a user from automatically logging in
[07:12] <kuldeepdhaka> hydrox24, i can see the moving dots of ubuntu but it is not showing terminal.....does it take time
[07:12] <din> `Korvin: break their fingers?
[07:12] <din> :)
[07:13] <kuldeepdhaka> din,,,, can see the moving dots of ubuntu but it is not showing terminal.....does it take time
[07:13] <gEO_> Well. I'm fine if I have to remove ndis  can anyone help me with it?
[07:13] <korvin_> sorry I'll ask again
[07:13] <din> kuldeepdhaka: does the screen say anything?
[07:13] <korvin_> is there any way to prevent automatic login on startup?
[07:13] <korvin_> I turned it on when I installed
[07:14] <kuldeepdhaka> din, no significant errors that can help
[07:14] <din> kuldeepdhaka: does ctrl+alt+f2 produce a shell?
[07:15] <kuldeepdhaka> cant see anything....
[07:15] <someh4x0r> How come it takes forever to "download language packs" anyways? Is it possible to tell the installer I only want en_US and not some useless ones like en_HK?
[07:15] <din> kuldeepdhaka: it almost seems like you are having a display driver issue.
[07:15] <din> hence my suggestion earlier.
[07:15] <gEO_> hmm
[07:16] <kuldeepdhaka> din, then what should i do
[07:16] <din> kuldeepdhaka: i would try adding rdblacklist=nouveau to the end of your kernel entry in grub then boot it
[07:16] <din> and see if it works.
[07:16] <kuldeepdhaka> din,sometime graphics become big and  something small
[07:16] <din> kuldeepdhaka: i had that same issue on my home server
[07:17] <din> kuldeepdhaka: if it comes up without the nouveau driver then at least you can get rid of it afterwards
[07:18] <kuldeepdhaka> din, let me try the rdblacklist method...reply u back in a min
[07:20] <gEO_> I hope you haven't forgotten about my questions.. thanks
[07:20] <someh4x0r> ndiswrapper is getting less and less popular so nobody may actually have an answer
[07:21] <gEO_> I mean how can I boot now...
[07:21] <gEO_> I just want to blacklist it.
[07:21] <din> gEO_: can you not boot to recovery mode and do it that way?
[07:22] <gEO_> it is the same in recovery mode
[07:22] <gEO_> But I can login as root in read only
[07:22] <din> if not i have used the init=/bin/bash method to get into systems before
[07:22] <din> ok
[07:22] <gEO_> but I dont know how to proceed from there
[07:22] <din> so mount -o remount,rw /
[07:22] <din> then it should be read/write
[07:24] <skyball> just installed ubuntu. screen is flashing purple. what can i do?
[07:24] <gEO_> in root shell?
[07:24] <din> gEO_: yes
[07:25] <gEO_> it gives me a  mount help info
[07:25] <gEO_> doesnt do anything else
[07:25] <din> are you in the busybox shell?
[07:25] <gEO_> sorry.. How do I check that
[07:27] <din> gEO_: it should say something about it when you actually did drop to a shell
[07:27] <din> i.e BusyBox 1.1 etc...
[07:27] <someh4x0r> uh oh now windows gives me "missing operating system" after installing ubuntu
[07:27] <gEO_> it didnt
[07:27] <skyball> the "try ubuntu first " works then it says remove USB drive hit enter to restart. when i do the screen starts to flash purple?
[07:29] <someh4x0r> refit resync gives me "analysis inconclusive." how do I fix this?
[07:31] <urfr332gO> !nomodeset | skyball
[07:31] <urfr332gO> skyball, your booting the usb?
[07:32] <urfr332gO> or had?
[07:32] <rsMed> Hello! How can I get complete 'Linux Programmer's Manual' ?
[07:33] <urfr332gO> rsMed, not sure there is acomplete many out there though.
[07:33] <crizzy> rsMed: dno what you're looking exactly, but http://developer.ubuntu.com/ might get you started
[07:33] <skyball> yes i did
[07:34] <urfr332gO> skyball, so your not installed yet?
[07:34] <skyball> even tryed to re install and same thing
[07:34] <skyball> well i guess not
[07:35] <urfr332gO> so do you get a grub menu now?
[07:35] <urfr332gO> skyball, ^^
[07:35] <urfr332gO> skyball, I'm confused as to where you at.
[07:35] <skyball> i have a flashing screan
[07:35] <rsMed> urfr332gO: crizzy: The one which Ubuntu uses.. If you do man stdout, you see the title as Linux Programmer's Manual. So, in that context I'd like to see the complete manaul
[07:36] <skyball> i took out the usb as the computer told me
[07:36] <urfr332gO> skyball, so you have a install and on the reboot a flashing screen?
[07:36] <skyball> restarted and now the screan is flashing
[07:36] <skyball> yes
[07:37] <crizzy> rsMed: http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
[07:37] <urfr332gO> skyball, try the nomodeset option in the bots link it may be that you need a graphics driver. If nomodeset gets you in run a update and upgrade to get any packages needed and then look at the app additional drivers a graphic driver may be there.
[07:38] <urfr332gO> rsMed, I have not ever used one, I'm just a enthusiast, so not much help really.
[07:38] <skyball> bots link?
[07:38] <urfr332gO> !nomodeset
[07:38] <urfr332gO> skyball, ^^^
[07:39] <rsMed> Thanks crizzy urfr332gO
[07:39] <gartral> is there something totally epically screwy with the way the windows USB installer makes a bootable flash drive? it keeps throwing "Unable too find medium medium containing live file system"
[07:39] <urfr332gO> rsMed, no problem.
[07:39] <urfr332gO> gardar, windows usb installer?
[07:39]  * gardar slaps urfr332gO
[07:40] <skyball> thank you i will try
[07:40] <gartral> urfr332gO: gartral != gardar
[07:40] <someh4x0r> OK, I've fixed all my problems
[07:40] <urfr332gO> gardar, back at you with a large dead trout, can you name the app like unetbootin, or is it the actual MS dvd loader for loading W7.
[07:41] <gartral> urfr332gO: i'm going too drop a boatload of TUNA on you if you don't stop confusing us! :P
[07:41] <urfr332gO> gartral, yeah when you have a nic close to anothers and we use a tab complete this happens.
[07:42] <urfr332gO> what ever
[07:42] <gardar> haha no worries
[07:42] <Etherael> Anyone know what causes xscreensaver in lock mode to just black the screens and never pop u p with a prompt for password?
[07:43] <urfr332gO> gardar, sorry I have the ignore on the actual user now. :)
[07:44] <gartral> urfr332gO: we're just playing with you man
[07:45] <gartral> urfr332gO: The program is Universal USB installer, it's the application that's on ubuntu.com/download when you select "Show Me How" and have windows, and USB stick selected
[07:47] <gardar> gartral: I'd try unetbootin, it has never failed me
[07:48] <gartral> gardar: Unetbootin installs ALWAYS dump me too a GRUB shell..
[07:49] <prajakta> hi
[07:49] <gardar> how's your usb key formatted? fat32?
[07:49] <gartral> gardar: Yep.
[07:50] <gartral> gardar: (No, it's in Solaris Format :P joke)
[07:50] <gardar> well everything is better than ntfs :)
[07:52] <calamity> Heya
[07:52] <calamity> I've googled extensively, but I'd like to know if anyone has any recs on a good language learning application for the buntu
[07:53] <dr3mro> hello , what is the file responsible for default gtk theme in ubuntu oneiric cutom live cd
[07:54] <someh4x0r> Quick question: how do I change the grub menu timeout to 0?
[07:55] <L3top> which version
[07:55] <L3top> check /boot/menu.lst
[07:55] <L3top> for grub < 2
[07:55] <sixdahs> someh4xor usually there is a timeout option
[07:55] <sixdahs> change to 0
[07:55] <sixdahs> ?
[07:55] <someh4x0r> yeah, I don't want to google for what it is :) (also, using grub2)
[07:56] <sixdahs> roflcopter
[07:58] <sorrymyeng> hi, is it possible to change wifi mac adress without macchanger program?
[07:58] <someh4x0r> it is with atheros but I don't know the command
[08:00] <sorrymyeng> and atheros i have not too
[08:02] <keyboardtalk> My external harddrive connected via eSATA is not automatically recognized in 11.10. It would be auto-mounted in 11.04. How can I fix this?
[08:03] <jameslord> http://paste.ubuntu.com/857492/ , what is the command to make the following rules as a side effect of iptables
[08:03] <jameslord> help:)
[08:04] <urfr332gO> L3top, boot/menu.list is grub legacy
[08:04] <urfr332gO> someh4x0r, changing the timeout to 0 can be not a good idea if you ever want to see grub.
[08:05] <sixdahs> iptables -I work?\
[08:05] <Canadian1296> urfr332gO: Cant you just hold shift on boot?
[08:06] <Canadian1296> Apache 2 question... Is it possible, in digest authentication, to add an account that is valid for all realms?
[08:06] <urfr332gO> Canadian1296, sometimes yes, but with ) many times not
[08:06] <urfr332gO> )*
[08:06] <urfr332gO> 0*
[08:07] <Canadian1296> Anyone?
[08:07] <Canadian1296> urfr332gO: Ah I see
[08:07] <urfr332gO> Canadian1296, better to check to be sure iof yo9u ever want to get the grub menu
[08:07] <urfr332gO> bad spelling sorry. :(
[08:08] <Canadian1296> That's alright, and yeah mine is set to 1 second. Just enough.
[08:09] <urfr332gO> Canadian1296, good idea, a person could chroot in to fix it if needed.
[08:09] <keyboardtalk> My external harddrive connected via eSATA is not automatically recognized in 11.10. It would be auto-mounted in 11.04. How can I fix this?
[08:10] <urfr332gO> keyboardtalk, you mean it is not automounting in 11.10?
[08:10] <Canadian1296> urfr332gO: Yes, someone could. Any ideas for my question?
[08:10] <keyboardtalk> urfr332gO: yes
[08:11] <urfr332gO> Canadian1296, not a clue. :)
[08:11] <urfr332gO> !fstab | keyboardtalk
[08:11] <keyboardtalk> urfr332gO: the drive doesn't seem to be anywhere in /dev
[08:12] <urfr332gO> keyboardtalk, fstab is where you set up automounts is this a upgrade to 11.10?
[08:12] <keyboardtalk> urfr332gO: it is a new install
[08:12] <keyboardtalk> urfr332gO: I have tried mounting manually but the system doesn't seem to recognize the drive at all
[08:13] <urfr332gO> keyboardtalk, youhave to set up fstab to have it automount the link should be what you need I don't have any NTFS auto mounting so would have to google to find the correct syntax.
[08:14] <urfr332gO> keyboardtalk, ah wont mount at all, you have a windows setup perchance so you can run a chkdsk?
[08:15] <urfr332gO> keyboardtalk, if it was being read you would see it in the left panel of home.
[08:15] <keyboardtalk> urfr332gO: I do have a windows install
[08:15] <keyboardtalk> urfr332gO: and like I said the device isn't showing anywhere in /dev
[08:16] <urfr332gO> keyboardtalk, I would check it in computer with a disc check.
[08:16] <urfr332gO> in windows
[08:16] <keyboardtalk> urfr332gO: is there a way to make the system to rescan esata ports?
[08:16] <urfr332gO> keyboardtalk, I wouldn't't know
[08:16] <keyboardtalk> urfr332gO: okay I will try chkdisk
[08:17] <Chipzzz> does anyone remember what ubuntu is recommending to replace webmin?
[08:18] <Chipzzz> !webmin
[08:21] <Myrtti> !zentyal | Chipzzz
[08:21] <T_H_X> Gwibber is soo sloow :(  any alternatives?
[08:21] <seroquel> does ubuntu have a vmware view client? i want to try it and i can still use windows things through my school's vmware view client like office 2010
[08:23] <Myrtti> T_H_X: depending on what you want from gwibber, you might find Tweetdeck (for Chrome or Air) useful, that's what I did.
[08:23] <Chipzzz> Myrtti: thank you very much :-)
[08:24] <brian1992> hello?
[08:24] <bellman> is ext2 safer to run on flash than ext4
[08:24] <T_H_X> Myrtti: just want it for facebook feed
[08:24] <brian1992> can anyone learn me how to mount a .vdi ?
[08:25] <ssta> seroquel: yes, it's called "vmware-view-client", should be in the software centre
[08:25] <seroquel> sick, thanks ssta
[08:25] <ssta> seroquel: or: sudo apt-get install vmware-view-client
[08:25] <brian1992> hmm ill checit out
[08:25] <urfr332gO> bellman, flash are pretty solid now I would not worry about it
[08:25] <bellman> so journaling will not destroy the write cycles?
[08:26] <T_H_X> Myrtti: thank you
[08:26] <urfr332gO> bellman, theoretically in the past that was a arguement check your sources for that info.
[08:28] <brian1992>  sudo apt-get install vmware-view-client (couldent find package)
[08:28] <gartral> gardar: ok, this is perplexing. Unetbootin and USB Installer are giving the same crap with multiple distributions and mutiple drives..
[08:29] <bellman> do I need to switch to windows for my rear speakrs to work?  i have asked #alsa and there is no answer
[08:29] <bazhang>  vmware-view-open-client brian1992
[08:29] <brian1992> thanks :)
[08:30] <urfr332gO> gartral, I use this one it uses grub and is a multi ISO loader http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[08:30] <brian1992> yeah thank a ton that did it
[08:30] <ajnabicancer> i have removed nvidia drivers from "Hardware drivers" 3 drivers are listed there (nvidia-173, nvidia96 and current). i don't know much about ubuntu & now i want to installed drivers that don't make any error and i can easily change resolution. Last time i faced errors were these "signal out of range" and now i see something like "VGA=775 is deprecrated 'loadpay' or 'playload' i don't remember well. then it login to ubuntu. Here 
[08:30] <bellman> i cannot believe this OS can be claimed feature-complete for desktop use without surround sound support
[08:30] <gartral> urfr332gO: I only have a 1 gig flash drive too work with..
[08:30] <zenon> morning folks =D
[08:31] <urfr332gO> gartral, it is just another option you can load just one, you can DD the iSO to it and boot it.
[08:32] <tejaswidp> I installed r using "sudo apt-get install r-base-core" but I can't seem to run the R interpreter by typing "R'
[08:32] <ultrixx> good morning, everybody
[08:32] <gartral> urfr332gO: also, I'm working off of a windows base at the moment, a /sh script doesn't do me much good
[08:32] <ssta> bellman: I can't believe it can be claimed feature-complete without a lady to make my coffee, free unlimited mp3 downloads and a marching band ready to do a rousing chorus of Hail to the Chief every morning in my living room...but there it is...
[08:32] <brian1992>  vmware-view-open-client okay what do i do with it?
[08:32] <tejaswidp> bash say R is not currently installed
[08:32] <ajnabicancer> ultrixx: good morning
[08:33] <tejaswidp> and asks me to type "sudo apt-get install r-base-core"
[08:33] <tejaswidp> what should I do to overcome this problem?
[08:33] <YohanMeister> Hi. I'm trying to remember how the dd command goes to write all zeros to a drive. Does anyone know and is there a way to do it where it will complete faster (even if it isn't real thorough)?
[08:33] <ajnabicancer> Any suggestions? http://paste.ubuntu.com/857515/
[08:33] <gartral> tejaswidp: have you tried "r" instead of "R"? just a thought
[08:34] <tejaswidp> yes gartral
[08:34] <tejaswidp> doesn't work
[08:35] <Stanley00> YohanMeister: you can use /dev/zero as input to dd, like this dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/your-drive
[08:35] <ssta> YohanMeister: it will be faster if you do more than one zero at a time.  something like: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdxx bs=1M
[08:36] <gartral> YohanMeister: and you can make it slightly faster with oflag=sync
[08:36] <bellman> ssta: unlimited free mp3 downloads with transmission on what.cd are working fine   that is not my problem.  and I can download 5.1 surround movies with sabnzbdplus.  but i'm stuck in the last century with 2 channel stereo output.
[08:37] <urfr332gO> ssta, yeah where are those apps lol. :)
[08:37] <YohanMeister> cool. that's the part I couldn't remember - the "bs=..." part. Also I was wondering one other thing. I have actually 3 drives in that machine. Is it possible to dd them simultaneously? They are 3 TB ea (would take forever if I have to do them one at a time).
[08:37] <ajnabicancer> i have removed nvidia drivers from "Hardware drivers" 3 drivers are listed there (nvidia-173, nvidia96 and current). i don't know much about ubuntu & now i want to installed drivers that don't make any error and i can easily change resolution. Last time i faced errors were these "signal out of range" and now i see something like "VGA=775 is deprecrated 'loadpay' or 'playload' i don't remember well. then it login to ubuntu. Here 
[08:37] <ajnabicancer> Any suggestions? http://paste.ubuntu.com/857515/
[08:38] <ssta> YohanMeister: I don't know of a safe way to do them simultaneously other than running three commands at once (but since they're all over teh same bus, it probably wouldn't increase speed much)
[08:39] <ajnabicancer> where can i get help for my solution?
[08:40] <gartral> YohanMeister: yes.. though not through the same instence of dd. you can "dd if=/dev/zero of=/sdx bs=x & dd if=/dev/zero of=/sdx bs=x" etc..
[08:40] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: you should be fine with one driver, 'nvidia-current'
[08:40] <bellman> ajnab   u can switch to Debian and install the latest nvidia driver from nvidia.com that works fine  or just run Windows where there is real modern support
[08:40] <gartral> YohanMeister: but as ssta states, if they're all on the same bus, you won't notice much difference in speed..
[08:40] <almoxarife> bellman: that was about useless as help goes
[08:41] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: will that let me change resolution, because at nvidia-173 it won't give resolution size more than 1024x768.
[08:41] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: yes, it should
[08:41] <gartral> bellman: you just made my brain ache.
[08:41] <bellman> xcuse me are you saying this ubuntu is a real os with world class support? i have been led to believe otherwise
[08:41] <YohanMeister> gartral: that's what I was wondering. If the dd command itself would run several instances of the program at the same time. Also, not sure if you are referring to the old ide mobo architecture when you say bus. These are sata drive. (Not sure if it makes a difference).
[08:41] <darbe> exit
[08:41] <YohanMeister> thx for the info btw
[08:41] <bazhang> !behelpful | bellman
[08:42] <ultrixx> bellman: if you refuse to learn and inform yourself go buy an apple or use windows
[08:42] <ssta> bellman: I use it for everything.  Your needs may be different
[08:42] <bellman> my brain aches from sound blasting me from my front speakers without rear fill
[08:42] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: ok, i'm trying. if it remained same, i'll be here with you. many thanks.
[08:42] <ultrixx> bellman: well sometimes ignorance hurts
[08:42] <dark2> How can I get my Logitech Dual-Action gamepad to work with ubuntu? (11.04)
[08:42] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: you will need to reboot and adjust the settings in the config app
[08:42] <gartral> YohanMeister: very very very few mobos have sepereate sata busses.
[08:43] <brian1992> how do i use vmware to mount a vdi?
[08:43] <urfr332gO> brian1992, VM OR VBOX?
[08:43] <urfr332gO> sorry caps on
[08:43] <gartral> urfr332gO: VBOX! :P
[08:44] <bellman> mount -o loop some.vdi   using the fuse-vdi package
[08:44] <brian1992> well its used for VM, but i want to mount it to my real computer
[08:44] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: One more thing, i have also done some changing in etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf. but now there is no such file. maybe bcoz i have removed those drivers.  I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO SETTINGS IN CONFIG APP
[08:44] <ssta> YohanMeister: the dd command doesn't do that.  You can do it "by hand", as indicated before.  Personally I don't think it will make much difference in speed, but I don't know that for sure.  All you can do is try it and see :)
[08:44] <YohanMeister> ok. I see that the problem is I have a misunderstanding of the definition of bus. It's ok. I have enough to go on and I can look it up if get really curious   :)
[08:44] <YohanMeister> thx
[08:44] <johntron> whenever i try to install ubuntu (or fedora) from my USB drive, i get a message about udevd timing out and killing modprobe. any ideas?
[08:44] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: you wont need to do setting in a conf file
[08:45] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: the configuration app for nvidia is straight forward, pick a resolution that your display can handle and set it as your default
[08:45] <brian1992> urfr332g0: well its used for VM, but i want to mount it to my real computer
[08:46] <ssta> YohanMeister: actually, I take that back...since most of the time will be spent waiting on disk, then as long as the disks don't block each other, it would be faster (no idea whether they will block each other)
[08:46] <hydrox24> ajnabicancer: Errm, by "config app" do you mean the default "displays" section to the ubuntu setting? Also, what exactly do you want to change in the configuration>
[08:47] <urfr332gO> brian1992, not sure really of your definition of mount it to your real computer, is it uase it a a partitikoned install?
[08:47] <urfr332gO> use as a partitioned install? brian1992
[08:48] <YohanMeister> hmm. Well how would you know if they did or didn't. If I recall correctly, the way the dd command works you can't see any progress info. You just wait and wait until you see a new command line appear and that's the only way to tell it has completed. Unless there's a way to tell if the disks are blocking one another, maybe better safe than sorry... eh?
[08:48] <ssta> YohanMeister: the only way I can think of would be to experiment.  time one way, then time the other way, see how much difference it makes...
[08:48] <brian1992> urfr332g0: the .vdi its used for my VM, i want to access the vdi as a hardrive on my actual desktop
[08:49] <dark2> Is there a way to reactivate my 2nd monitor without restarting every time?
[08:49] <muumioo_> I have a problem: I have a ftp server installed. I can download files with filezilla but uploading does not work. What could be wrong?
[08:49] <ssta> brian1992: fuse-vdi package
[08:49] <urfr332gO> dark2, displays] does not get it running?
[08:50] <gartral> muumioo_: do you have write access in the server and too the destination?
[08:50] <brian1992> ssta, should i apt-get install fuse-vdi package
[08:50] <someh4x0r> muumioo_: is there a reason why the server isn't sftp?
[08:50] <ssta> hmm, it's not there
[08:50] <padhu> Ubuntians, suggest me P5B-MX/WiFi-AP supported Graphics card working on ubuntu 10.04
[08:50] <ssta> brian1992: used to be called that I thought, but I can't find it now...hang on
[08:50] <YohanMeister> ssta: hmm. Maybe an experiment for another time then. I'm just trying to git er' done right now   :)
[08:50] <YohanMeister> thx for the help
[08:51] <brian1992> ssta, thanks, any help apprecaated at this time
[08:51] <dark2> It tells me it can't be applied
[08:51] <muumioo_> Not shure:) Where I could check it?
[08:51] <ssta> brian1992: ah, called virtualbox-ose-fuse now
[08:52] <dark2> Tells me the requested position/size is outside the allowed limit
[08:52] <ssta> brian1992: then you should be able to loopback mount the vdi
[08:52] <brian1992> ssta, thanks, ill give its a try
[08:52] <someh4x0r> muumioo_: if it's your server and your client, you probably want to use sftp
[08:52] <brian1992> ssta, how do i  loopback mount the vdi?
[08:53] <muumioo_> someh4x0r: It is sftp.
[08:53] <almoxarife> brian1992: why not use 'virtualbox' to mount the vdi?
[08:53] <brian1992> almoxarife, there are file on my computer im trying to put on my VM
[08:54] <ssta> brian1992: something like: mount -o loop foo.vdi mountpoint/
[08:54] <brian1992> thanks
[08:54] <almoxarife> brian1992: files not on the vdi you want included on the vdi?
[08:54] <ssta> brian1992: there are probably instructions in the package (/usr/share/doc/<packagename> often has hints)
[08:56] <bellman> i am considering a day protesting Ubuntu in the middle of union square in NYC  for wasting my time installing an OS without rear speaker support
[08:56] <urfr332gO> bellman, imageibn the pics for us. :)
[08:56] <almoxarife> bellman: ubuntu does have read speaker support if the audio card provides it!
[08:57] <brian1992> almoxarife, yes, file on my computer
[08:57] <brian1992> ssta, okay ill give its a look
[08:59] <selig5> bellman: Did you try running 'alsamixer' in the terminal? It has a lot of settings you can try.
[08:59] <Crash_O-D> im looking for a good alternitive to wysiwyg html site builder like dreamweaver
[08:59] <bellman> i do not see a 'rear' channel in the ALSA mixer. I do have 'surround' and 'center' channels maxxed to 100%
[08:59] <brian1992> ssta, nope nothing there
[09:00] <brian1992> ssta, im thinking about just scraping the whole idea and just getting a dos emulator to do what im trying to do
[09:01] <urfr332gO> brian1992, is this vdi on this computer normally running in vbox?
[09:01] <Myrtti> bellman: we heard your complaint on the first round, please consider filing a bug or +1:ing an existing one; alternatively asking in forums or askubuntu if anyone else has experience about your symptoms with similar hardware. This is a support channel, repeating your complaint here will not make your problem go away if it is a bug, and even if it isn't not without more information
[09:03] <urfr332gO> brian1992, anyway there are several ways to transfer stuff to the vdi in Vbox without mounting it like your trying to do.
[09:03] <ksus> #ksus
[09:03] <brian1992> urf332g0,  its a fixed size .vdi that virtual box OSE created, i want to mount the image to move files from my hard drive to my virtual hardrive
[09:03] <bellman> ok, I am switching my efforts to the bug reporting channels... I am a professional software developer myself so I expect that my issue will be assigned a high prioirity and addressed with the same rigor that I resolve customer issues
[09:04] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: (ee) Nvidia: falied to load nvidia kernal module
[09:04] <urfr332gO> brian1992, why don't you just have a shared folder?
[09:05] <brian1992> urf332g0,  .. wow, im an idiot
[09:05] <brian1992> urf332g0, you just blew my mind
[09:05] <urfr332gO> brian1992, no. no I am. :)
[09:05] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: how did you remove the drivers?
[09:05] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: please check you (ee) Nvidia: nvidia: system kernal log for additional error message.
[09:06] <brian1992> urf332g0, ahh ha! actual no i cant do that, the VM is running MSDOS
[09:06] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: how did you remove the drivers?
[09:06] <bellman> urfr you can simply mount the vdi as a loopback device with mount...  if there is a fuse-vdi package you can use that  if not you can look at another FUSE driver and make the neccesary source code modifications to mound VDI files directly
[09:06] <urfr332gO> brian1992, ah.
[09:06] <brian1992> urf332g0, yeah.. i dont think theres a way to have shered folders
[09:07] <urfr332gO> brian1992, I have only done it with Os's.
[09:07] <YohanMeister> I don't know if the math works like this or not, but...  If I recollect, I think dd'ing a 100 GB drive cost me about an hour once before. That means 3 TB = 3 X 10 X 100 GB = about 30 hrs! Good lord I hope that isn't correct because there's three of those and that would be 90 hrs total (or about 3,75 day - nonstop).
[09:07] <ssta> brian1992: you could put the files into an iso and mount the iso in the vm
[09:07] <ajnabicancer> Almoxarife: System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[09:08] <almoxarife> bellman: how about he just brings up the vdi up on virtualbox and then moves the file from where ever it exists into the vdi running in virtualbox? to sexy, not eneough terminal vudo-chilly?
[09:08] <brian1992> ssta, how do i go about makeing an .iso   is it as simple as placeing them in a . zip and renameing it?
[09:08] <ssta> brian1992: no.  nowhere near as simple as that sadly :)
[09:08] <urfr332gO> night night
[09:08] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: how did you install 'nvidia-current'?
[09:09] <brian1992> ah ha.. alright well how do i do that?
[09:09] <ssta> umm, is there a GUI tool for making isos?  I'd use mkisofs, but I suspect there's a more point and puke method these days
[09:09] <brian1992> ssta, ah ha.. alright well how do i do that?
[09:09] <gartral> ssta: yes, brasareo can "burn" too iso
[09:09] <ssta> brian1992: Personally I'd use mkisofs, but there's probably a better way
[09:10] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: i installed via synaptic package manager
[09:10] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: so you are familiar with synaptic?
[09:10] <Ajay_> hi
[09:10] <ssta> brian1992: ah, there you go.  "brasareo" (whatever that is)
[09:10] <djeday> hello, it is possoble to configure ubuntu to mute sount in acoustic system when i attach headphones ?
[09:10] <brian1992> alright well im going to go mess around whith these ideas, thx a lot
[09:11] <Ajay_> can any tell me how to get to redhat chat
[09:11] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: thats a yes or no question
[09:11] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: yes, only now i know about synaptic. someone from hear told me to installed drivers from there.
[09:11] <Q_Continuum> What is the proper channel for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS support? (Server)
[09:11] <zenon> how can I set it so this chat dont get dumped through & cut off? I like to digest.
[09:11] <YohanMeister> ajay: try #redhat
[09:12] <Ajay_> YohanMeister, thanks :)
[09:12] <YohanMeister> np
[09:12] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: fine, open synaptic and place the word 'nvidia' in the search box
[09:12] <gartral> zenon: what client?
[09:12] <ssta> Q_Continuum: I guess if there is one, it's here?
[09:12] <Q_Continuum> Ok.
[09:12] <Wingede> Anyone done an efi boot on macbook pro and managed to disable the second graphics card ?
[09:13] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: done
[09:13] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: how many packages showing as installed?
[09:13] <Q_Continuum> Updated a fresh 10.04.04 LTS server install, x64 - and when updating grub hung with this: 'Running postinst hook script /usr/sbin/update-grub.'
[09:13] <Q_Continuum> Has been sitting there for over 24 hours at that.
[09:13] <zenon> ubuntu, smuxi irc
[09:13] <muumioo_> its working...
[09:14] <muumioo_> I didn't have the write access set on:)
[09:14] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: and is one of the installed 'nvidia-current'?
[09:15] <gartral> zenon: never heard of smuxi, i use irssi. and by hitting pgup once it stops the auto scroll and i can manually page down
[09:15] <gartral> muumioo_: i told you!
[09:15] <ssta> Q_Continuum: never seen that one before
[09:15] <zenon> it see,s to dump what it can't hold
[09:16] <gartral> Q_Continuum: might time for grub rescue cd
[09:16] <zenon> I scroll up & its not all the infro from when I launched
[09:16] <ssta> we never had these problems back when it was lilo :)
[09:16] <Q_Continuum> BTW, the Install was fresh 10.04.04 LTS CD into HyperV VM.  Then update, and VOILA
[09:17] <zenon> gartar: thanks anyway
[09:17] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: Nvidia 173 and 96 modaliases
[09:17] <Q_Continuum> I haven't rebooted the VM yet, but it was the last to update and power down before I rebooted the host for its once-a-month-patch-athon
[09:18] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: those are installed, but not 'nvidia-current', correct?
[09:18] <sorrymyeng> hi, how to activate fakeie6 and gecko in winetricks 20110629? or how to change its version and select that in new version?
[09:18] <Q_Continuum> Its still stalled on that last line, since about 30 hours ago.
[09:18] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: Nvidia current modaliases and nvidia current is also there?
[09:18] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: Nvidia current modaliases and nvidia current is also there. yes
[09:18] <Q_Continuum> This isn't the first time I hit this problem, either.
[09:19] <Q_Continuum> gartral: grub rescue CD - something special, or just booting off the Ubuntu install disc and running grub-magic-foo
[09:19] <Q_Continuum> ?
[09:19] <Amdpc> Hi...I have a .dmg file. I want to burn it to a dvd..which software to use ? I dont want to convert it into .iso and then burn..
[09:19] <ssta> Q_Continuum: I'd assume it had hung, reboot it and see if the problem recurs.  If it doesn't put it down to sunspots, if it does then start tearing it to pieces (BTW: Kudos for the patience to wait 30 hours, I'd have given up after 10 minutes ;)
[09:19] <Q_Continuum> I hit this same problem in a previous VM install of the same, and just decided to nuke it.  Next VM didn't have that problem.
[09:19] <Q_Continuum> So First VM: this problem.  2nd one: not this problem.  3rd one: this problem.
[09:20] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: complete unistall all mentioned,
[09:20] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: How?
[09:20] <Q_Continuum> Fresh install from both old and latest media, then update.
[09:20] <ssta> Q_Continuum: *maybe* something has reordered the disks away from what grub expects?  That *might* cause it to hang (complete guess though)
[09:20] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: see them, right click on each
[09:21] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: do i have to completely remove every package from nvidia
[09:21] <Q_Continuum> ssta: I haven't done anything to the disks at all...so I don't know.  Powered down the VM, gonna reboot the VM host and bring it back up.  Means taking down the IRC shell as well - so I'll be back when/if it that VM doesn't return.  (The IRC shell VM didn't hit the problem when updating, but the VM before it did)
[09:21] <brian1992> whats the feature called when the windows are all jellow like when you move them
[09:21] <Q_Continuum> Anyway back in 3-5.
[09:21] <god-zotac> brian1992:: wobbly windows
[09:22] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: yes, you want to do a clean install of 'nvidia-current' once you have purged what ever it is that was there before, that is the key, purge old, start fresh
[09:22] <ssta> brian1992: distracting eye-candy
[09:22] <brian1992> god-zodiac,  ssta,  is there a package for it?
[09:22] <ssta> looks cute for about 30 seconds before it starts to irritate me
[09:23] <ssta> brian1992: you just enable all the eye-candy IIRC...
[09:23] <god-zotac> brian1992:: its a part of emerald and/or compiz... aka excessive resource abuse
[09:23] <ssta> desktop-effects or something
[09:23] <brian1992> ssta, hahaha
[09:23] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: everything i found by typing nvidia is now removing....
[09:24] <MonkeyDust> so at least someone *does* like all the eye candy
[09:24] <ssta> not that I Can ever find anything in the new control panel thingy
[09:24] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: in synaptic, 'purge' is 'mark all for complete removal' , that is what you chose?
[09:24] <ssta> MonkeyDust: there's no accounting for taste
[09:26] <NyLes> what is mesa drivers for?
[09:26] <YohanMeister> does anyone know if that figure sounds about right?
[09:26] <NyLes> !mesa
[09:27] <ssta> YohanMeister: if you're blowing aaway the disk anyway, just do a small section (say 1G) and time it: time dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/XXXX bs=1M count=1024
[09:27] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: on bottom left there is a tab called 'status' chose it if not already chosen, above there is a choice called 'installed', chose that too, and place 'nvidia' in search box, the contents on right should be blank, verify that
[09:28] <ssta> then multiple by 3000 to get the (approximate) time to do 3TB
[09:28] <altabq> i installed Libreoffice from deb but forgot to install a jre before so the installer resulted in error. i installed the open jre and reran the deb installation of libreoffice. now, libreoffice is there, but when i open synaptic i get the error that a package is not correctly installed and i should reinstall, synaptic quit
[09:28] <altabq> i reinstalled the package using dgebi\
[09:29] <altabq> but it didn't change anything
[09:29] <ssta> YohanMeister: actually, I think you can specify the blocksize as 1G (check the manpage to be sure)
[09:29] <god-zotac> NyLes:: mesa is a graphics development library for rendering GL objects
[09:29] <srini> how to know the upcoming updates of ubuntu?it may be either ppa or other.I need to know about upcoming releases without searching in google.i mean it should no longer be available in any other sites except one or two.please help me
[09:29] <YohanMeister> ssta: good idea. thx. and I will check that 1G thing on the man page.
[09:29] <NyLes> god-zotac: is it for nvidia? ati? or intel?
[09:29] <god-zotac> NyLes:: all should support mesa and opengl
[09:29] <soreau> NyLes: yes
[09:30] <soreau> NyLes: It is for the open driver set
[09:30] <god-zotac> NyLes:: unless your card is rather old
[09:30] <NyLes> god-zotac: soreau thanks..
[09:30] <god-zotac> np
[09:30] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: there is nothing in synaptic now.
[09:30] <eQuiNoX__> hey guys for a device listed inside /dev, say /dev/adsp, how can i figure out what driver is used by the device?
[09:30] <srini> please help for my problem
[09:30] <altabq> synaptic error is "Internal error opening cache (1). Please report" then synaptic shuts down..what should i do?
[09:31] <altabq> i tried cleaning cache and ran autoremove
[09:31] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: on bottom left there is a tab called 'status' chose it if not already chosen, above there is a choice called 'installed', chose that too, and place 'nvidia' in search box, the contents on right should be blank, verify that, as per these instructions?
[09:32] <srini> Anyone please help me
[09:32] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: yes its black
[09:32] <ajnabicancer> *blank
[09:33] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: now highlight the 'not installed' option and choose 'nvidia-current' along with recommended packages
[09:33] <soreau> srini: ubuntu.com should have everything you need to know
[09:34] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: mark for install and install
[09:34] <drounse> hi, after installing vuze on xubuntu 11.10 it wont start
[09:34] <srini> soreau, what is ppa?
[09:35] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: there are three packages for nvidia current, do i have to chose "nvidia-current"
[09:35] <soreau> ! ppa | srini
[09:35] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: choose, 'nvidia-current'
[09:35] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: done
[09:35] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: mark for install and install
[09:35] <srini> soreau, i understood ppa.can we have our own ppa?
[09:36] <soreau> srini: anyone can create a ppa
[09:36] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: installation is in progress
[09:36] <almoxarife> drounse: vuze uses java yes?
[09:36] <srini> soreau, can you please help me to create ppa? i am new to this.
[09:36] <drounse> almoxarife ahhh thank you i dont have a jre installed
[09:36] <srini> soreau, does it require any programming knowledge?
[09:37] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: once the install is complete you need to reboot
[09:37] <soreau> srini: Not necessarily
[09:37] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: Ok
[09:37] <srini> soreau, can you help me in creating ppa?
[09:37] <drounse> almoxarife it worked i had to install jre7
[09:38] <soreau> srini: See https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[09:38] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: assuming there will be something else broke, install package 'pastebinit' prior to bugging out
[09:38] <almoxarife> drounse: cool
[09:38] <drounse> almoxarife thanks
[09:38] <srini> soreau, where can i find all ppa?
[09:38] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: be right back after reboot. Thanks for you paitience
[09:38] <altabq> i guess i should ask more clearly.. i installed libreoffice via deb, forgot jre. now synaptic won't start due to error in cache, one package of libreoffice is missing but even if i reinstall it, synaptic won't start due to same error.. any suggestions?
[09:39] <soreau> srini: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[09:39] <ssta> altabq: try: sudo apt-get -f install # see if this fixes the missing dependency issue
[09:39] <soreau> altabq: maybe you need to remove that package and clean the cache?
[09:41] <altabq> ssta, it can't find the deb file
[09:41] <srini> soreau, i am writing a blog regarding linux.i want to post something new that is related to ubuntu.where can i find it?
[09:42] <altabq> i'll try removing and reinstalling then, thanks soreau
[09:42] <almoxarife> altabq: you mean deb as in you download it?
[09:42] <soreau> srini: Im not sure if that question actually asks anything
[09:42] <soreau> you will have to be more specific
[09:43] <altabq> almoxarife yes
[09:43] <vagvaf> srini, try this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/
[09:43] <almoxarife> altabq: using apt-get will only help in purging what ever it is you installed, and yes, purge it all first
[09:44] <srini> soreau, where can i find the laetst things/upcoming things that google doesn't know the exact answer
[09:45] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/857565/
[09:45] <altabq> almoxarife it's libreoffice, and removing the package didn't work.. gdebi says the lockfile is still running. should i delete the lock file, then delete the package then reinstall the package?
[09:45] <someh4x0r> How come I can't get X11 to load mtrack
[09:46] <srini> soreau, i need to know the upcoming updates that are not become popular
[09:46] <almoxarife> altabq: close synaptic or what ever you have opened having to do with package install
[09:47] <soreau> srini: I dont know what you are fishing for exactly but you can always try the latest ubuntu image or hang out in #ubuntu-devel to see what they are discussing I guess
[09:47] <altabq> i used dpkg
[09:47] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: open a terminal
[09:47] <altabq> almoxarife
[09:47] <kinglet> hello guys , I want to install google-chrome but I've got this error msg http://pastebin.com/CtTMTv1x
[09:47] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: done
[09:47] <xaxes> hey all .. where to find server for python2.4 deb?
[09:47] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: did you manage to install 'pastebinit'?
[09:48] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: what is pastebinit?
[09:48] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: simple method to pastebin a file
[09:48] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: how can i install pastebinit?
[09:48] <soreau> kinglet: Looks like you possibly have an unsupported ppa installed
[09:49] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: from terminal              sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[09:49] <kinglet> soreau, what should i do? i am a ubuntu n00b
[09:49] <soreau> ! pastebinit | ajnabicancer_
[09:50] <altabq> almoxarife, i removed the lockfile, then reinstalling the packages worked and synaptic starts again
[09:50] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: done
[09:50] <soreau> kinglet: I would get rid of that ppa and fix the package manager then just install the google chrome deb from their website, if for some reason chromium from the repos isnt enough for you
[09:50] <altabq> thanks a bunch
[09:51] <kinglet> soreau, can u plz tell me step-by-step
[09:51] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: in terminal              pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:51] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: share the link
[09:51] <soreau> kinglet: First start synaptic and look at what repos you have enabled
[09:51] <xaxes> hey all .. where to find server for python2.4 deb for _armv7l_? ^^ forgot the architecture ;)
[09:51] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: http://pastebin.com/iX5nFqsV
[09:52] <kinglet> soreau, here isnt synaptic! i'm using ubuntu 11.10
[09:52] <chen> hi
[09:52] <soreau> kinglet: Im pretty sure you have synaptic
[09:52] <srini_> soreau, where can i get to know the uses of upcoming ppa?
[09:52] <soreau> srini: The questions you are asking are vague and impossible to answer. I dont know what to tell you, sorry
[09:52] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: oh by the way did you mention that was a WUBI install?
[09:53] <kinglet> soreau, u mean ubuntu-software-center?
[09:53] <soreau> kinglet: sure
[09:53] <ssta> soreau: synaptic isn't installed by default on 11.10 IIRC
[09:53] <soreau> ssta: That is interesting
[09:53] <kinglet> soreau, where r repos?
[09:54] <soreau> kinglet: if you can find anything that says software repositories
[09:54] <ssta> soreau: more of the "that's too complex, let's baby the users" syndrome I guess
[09:54] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: i don't understand. i actually installed ubuntu from within xp.
[09:54] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: yes you did, a WUBI install
[09:54] <soreau> ssta: Yea their talk of getting rid of ccsm as an effort to ignore bugs instead of fix them is laughable as well
[09:55] <kinglet> soreau, i cant find! is it in resources.list?
[09:55] <soreau> kinglet: Maybe you cant get to it from software center, not sure
[09:55] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: yes, that sound familiar. so what now?
[09:55] <kinglet> soreau, sources*
[09:56] <kinglet> hello guys , I want to install google-chrome but I've got this error msg http://pastebin.com/CtTMTv1x
[09:56] <chen> 怎么全是英语？
[09:56] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: in terminal         sudo apt-get install dkms
[09:57] <soreau> ! cn | chen
[09:57] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: donw
[09:57] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: done
[09:57] <soreau> ! ja | chen
[09:57] <chen> 谢谢。ubottu
[09:58] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: in terminal   sudo update-grub
[09:58] <kinglet> soreau, aahh, i think nobody can help atm
[09:58] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: done
[09:58] <soreau> kinglet: I dont really know what you did to your package manager but you can still try installing the google chrome deb from their site
[09:58] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: in terminal sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current
[09:58] <kinglet> soreau, i tried! but nothing happened!
[09:59] <soreau> I guess you did it wrong then
[09:59] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: done
[09:59] <larister> Hi, first time on IRC. Could anybody give me a quick bit of advice regarding an installation problem with Ubuntu?
[09:59] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[10:00] <soreau> ! ask larister
[10:00] <soreau> ! ask | larister
[10:00] <kinglet> plz someone help me! I want to install google-chrome but I've got this error msg http://pastebin.com/CtTMTv1x
[10:01] <kinglet> i cannt install anything!
[10:01] <nibbier> kinglet, thats a 3rd party application. ubuntu comes with chromium, try this maybe?
[10:01] <kinglet> soreau, i cannt install anything else :( via apt-get
[10:01] <soreau> kinglet: Thats because you broke it
[10:01] <ssta> kinglet: looks like you have a hung debconf process (or a stale lockfile)
[10:01] <kinglet> soreau, how can i fix it?
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> kinglet  type sudo apt-get update, first
[10:02] <soreau> It looks like you have some unsupported ppa installed and youll need to remove it
[10:02] <kinglet> MonkeyDust, ok
[10:02] <kinglet> soreau, how can i remove it? xD this is the problem!
[10:03] <nibbier> MonkeyDust, kinglet: "ebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable" is the key to all the errors i guess. there might be another process running blocking this. use fuser, lsof etc to find out about it, or just reboot maybe
[10:03] <ssta> soreau: where are you seeing evidence of that?
[10:03] <gordon1234> kinglet, have you got package manager open at the same time as doing to sudo apt-get install?
[10:03] <amimusa> hello, i recent update flashplugin to last version and now it is not active in firefox, please, how can i active it ? thank for your time
[10:03] <soreau> kinglet: maybe ssta is right
[10:03] <kinglet> nibbier, aha! ok i'll try to reboot at first
[10:03] <nibbier> ssta, soreau: Get:1 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main google-chrome-stable amd64 17.0.963.56-r121963
[10:03] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: done
[10:03] <soreau> ssta: I thought google-chrome wast in standard repos
[10:03] <soreau> wasnt
[10:04] <ssta> nibbier: which succeeds...
[10:04] <kinglet> thanks guys, rebooting and will come back
[10:04] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: pastebinit -i var/log/kern.log
[10:04] <nibbier> ssta, yep, but its still 3rd party. as i wrote before i see the file lock as the problem which i pasted
[10:04] <larister> I installed Ubuntu on my external HDD as I couldn't backup my main HDD, but now GRUB seems to have made my main HDD non-bootable (i.e. in the BIOS it appears as 'not present'). I can still access the drive and load windows through Ubuntu but if my external HDD is disconnected I'm screwed. Any ideas?
[10:04] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: pastebinit -i /var/log/kern.log
[10:04] <ssta> soreau: no, he DOES have an unsupported ppa setup...that's not what's causing the issue though (as far as I can see).  The issue is because debconf won't run because it thinks it's locked
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> ppas :(
[10:05] <Amoz> guys, it looks like he had chrome installed previously, thus the chrome repos are there
[10:05] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: Unable to read from: var/log/kern.log
[10:05] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: pastebinit -i /var/log/kern.log
[10:05] <soreau> ssta: My suggestion is to remove the ppa since its unsupported to begin with.. then install the deb manually
[10:05] <soreau> if chromium isnt good enough
[10:05] <ssta> ppas are fine.  As long as we don't bounce on "unsupported ppa" as an excuse for not thinking straight
[10:05] <almoxarife> chromium is an excellent browser
[10:06] <ssta> soreau: if the ppa was what was causing the issue, I might agree...I'm not seeing how this is going to help though
[10:06] <soreau> ssta: Basically I dont want to advocate wildly using ppas for any package a new user might want
[10:06] <Amoz> soreau, after installing the chrome deb you get the repo automatically
[10:06] <ssta> soreau: that's not the same thing as proactively telling users to remove any ppa you disapprove of
[10:07] <Amoz> soreau, so everything is fine imho
[10:07] <soreau> Amoz: Installing google chrome deb installs a ppa?
[10:07] <Amoz> soreau, it's not a ppa really. It's a normal repo, but from google
[10:07] <Amoz> deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
[10:07] <Kebabsvarvare> Hello, I've encountered a silly issue with my newly installed server. I was powering it down, giving a 5 minute warning when the power went and now I can't access it anymore... It just says "The system is going down for maintenance in 4 minutes" no matter what I do. Any suggestions?
[10:07] <ssta> soreau: IIRC it asks you if you want to so that you can get updates
[10:07] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: http://pastebin.com/dyzcEkiQ
[10:07] <Amoz> I've got the same line in my source.list.d directory
[10:07] <larister> ! ask I installed Ubuntu on my external HDD as I couldn't backup my main HDD, but now GRUB seems to have made my main HDD non-bootable (i.e. in the BIOS it appears as 'not present'). I can still access the drive and load windows through Ubuntu but if my external HDD is disconnected I'm screwed. Any ideas?
[10:08] <soreau> ssta: Fair enough, I will leave it to those more experienced in this area
[10:08] <soreau> ssta: ie. No one else was helping so I decided to try but since you are here now, go for it
[10:08] <bazhang> larister, dont use ! to being your post please
[10:08] <larister> bazhang
[10:08] <larister> sorry
[10:09] <gordon1234> Kebabsvarvare, I assume you are remote from the server and trying to access using ssh or something?
[10:09] <ssta> soreau: nothing wrong with helping.  Just be caregful that the help you give is accurate :)
[10:09] <amimusa> here there is the output (screenshot and apt) I get after the update process, seems to be installed, but it is not working, please I'll appreciate one help. thanks for your time: http://pastebin.com/zT6t6T7x
[10:09] <soreau> ssta: How is suggesting that an unsupported ppa is by definition.. unsupported and should be removed, not accurate?
[10:09] <soreau> technically, unsupported repos are... not supported here
[10:10] <Kebabsvarvare> Yes, but I also went and tried to access it with a keyboard and it just keeps on saying the same over and over again. Not letting me log in :(
[10:10] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: http://pastebin.com/dyzcEkiQ
[10:10] <ssta> soreau: there is NOTHING to say that unsupported repos have to be removed
[10:10] <ssta> soreau: and the unsupported repo was not the cause of his problem
[10:10] <soreau> ssta: Well to get support from me, you have to remove unsupported repos fistly
[10:11] <ssta> soreau: why?
[10:11] <gordon1234> Kebabsvarvare, the chances are that you will need to locally attach keyboard and monitor to the server or try a physical reboot.
[10:11] <chown_> how do i know if a certain software came with my ubuntu installation? I mean, i installed a lot of softwares and if i would like to remove one of them, how would i know if its a default ubuntu software?
[10:11] <Amoz> gordon1234, that's what he did?
[10:11] <soreau> ssta: Dude I dont understand why you are attacking me. Make yourself useful and go help someone instead of nitpicking my methods
[10:12] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: reboot
[10:12] <Kebabsvarvare> Rebooted about 5-6 times now. I have attached a keyboard and screen is connected and I just think this is ridiculous atm
[10:12] <Guest77584> Привет!!!
[10:12] <gordon1234> Amoz, he said that he was remote to the server
[10:12] <ssta> soreau: if you feel attacked, I apologise.
[10:12] <Amoz> gordon1234, Yes, but I also went and tried to access it with a keyboard and it just keeps on saying the same over and over again. Not letting me log in :(
[10:12] <soreau> ssta: I do now please drop it
[10:12] <bazhang> !ru | Guest77584
[10:12] <Amoz> gordon1234, he also said that
[10:13] <Q_Continuum> ssta: Powering down, rebooting, running dpkg --configure -a something (as it prompted me when I ran a apt-get update) fixed it.
[10:14] <Kebabsvarvare> SSH times out after a while, normal logging in locally gives the same message the whole time
[10:14] <gordon1234> Amoz, maybe I am misunderstanding him then, but he did say he was using ssh.
[10:14] <ssta> Q_Continuum: excellent
[10:14] <Q_Continuum> So it just hiccuped.  In two seperate VMs, the same way.
[10:14] <larister> soreau: do you have a second to help me?
[10:14] <Kebabsvarvare> I have tried both, gordon1234
[10:14] <Q_Continuum> ssta: Figured I'd come back and letcha know the result.  So, working again.
[10:14] <soreau> larister: ok so your external hdd isnt recognized or something?
[10:14] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: What now?
[10:14] <ziyadb> Hello, what's the default directory for the wallpapers?
[10:14] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: rebooted?
[10:14] <ajnabicancer> Almoxarife: Yes
[10:14] <ssta> Q_Continuum: glad you got it working :)
[10:14] <soreau> ziyadb: /usr/share/backgrounds
[10:15] <ziyadb> soreau: thank you.
[10:15] <larister> soreau: Ubuntu boots on the external HDD just fine, but if that isn't present then there's no way I can access Windows on my main HDD
[10:15] <Amoz> Kebabsvarvare, basically, the "reboot in 5 minutes" command has become permanent?
[10:15] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer_: in terminal pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:15] <davi> leave
[10:15] <Kebabsvarvare> Yes, that is pretty much it :(
[10:15] <lhk> hi
[10:15] <soreau> larister: Ah so grub is installed to the external hdd
[10:15] <larister> soreau: yup
[10:15] <larister> soreau: probably a big mistake, I'm a bit of a n00b as I'm sure you can tell :)
[10:15] <soreau> larister: You probably want to install grub to the internal disk I guess
[10:15] <ajnabicancer> Almoxarife: http://pastebin.com/sY9BPFmi
[10:16] <ssta> argh
[10:16] <Amoz> larister, you only have windows on the internal drive?
[10:16] <larister> soreau: to be honest I'm not so bothered, I was just trying out Ubuntu as I'm starting a new job
[10:16] <larister> amoz: yup, I just want to be able to boot up in windows if the external hdd is not present
[10:16] <Amoz> larister, in that case Grub won't help. you need to "recover" the bootloader from the windows install cd
[10:16] <larister> amoz: oh ok great thanks I'll give that a go; pretty straight forward?
[10:17] <Amoz> larister, should be
[10:17] <larister> amoz: either way, I  know what to try now thanks very much
[10:17] <Amoz> larister, boot the dvd and look for "recovery options" or something
[10:17] <larister> amoz: brilliant will do
[10:17] <larister> amos, soreau: thanks for making my first IRC foray pleasant and helpful :)
[10:17] <Amoz> larister, hopefully it will recognize the lack of bootloader and try to recover
[10:17] <soreau> larister: Yea thats fine.. but now that I think about it Im not sure that installing grub to the internal drive would help. Perhaps what you want to do is restore the windoze MBR, then when you want to boot ubuntu from the external drive, just boot it like a usb pen drive
[10:17] <someh4x0r> How come no matter what I do X ignores my InputClass?
[10:17] <Amoz> larister, however, as always, be careful and take backups
[10:18] <lhk> i got this problem: on a 64bit laptop running ubuntu 11.10 with gnome 3 I installed a few QT packages in order to run qtparted. Now the whole appearance is messed up. Everything is grey/white, buttons seem to have been designed back in the 90s and for example the terminal has become opaque with a white background. Moreover and even more unnerving : I can't open files anymore. Can you help me ?
[10:18] <larister> amoz: sure will do
[10:18] <larister> soreau: yup I'll try that
[10:18] <soreau> larister: ie. it sounds like you have installed grub to the MBR on the internal disk but the actual files it needs to load grub are on the external drive
[10:19] <larister> soreau: sorry, MBR?
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[10:19] <soreau> larister: Master Boot Record
[10:19] <soreau> ! mbr
[10:19] <larister> soreau: ah ok, maybe I just followed the ubuntu wizard when installing from a pen drive
[10:19] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: ?
[10:20] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: here, wait one
[10:20] <soreau> larister: Yea the default probably should be different when installing to an external drive
[10:21] <larister> soreau: yeah I thought it would be quite safe to install to the external HDD, keep it isolated
[10:21] <larister> soreau: didn't bank on it making those kind of changes...
[10:21] <ronsonol> Anyone much on navigating launchpad bug reports?  There's gotta be one already for 3.0.0-16-generic #28 AMD64 kernel doesn't recognize virtual terminal logins.
[10:21] <soreau> larister: Fail ;)
[10:22] <gordon1234> Kebabsvarvare, can you try CTL+ALT+F2 and see if you get a second login screen?
[10:22] <amimusa> somebody has upgrade flashplugin to version 11 ? I am experiencing problems, now i can't see flash with firefox... thanks
[10:22] <larister> soreau: what else are Sunday mornings for other than frantically trying to fix one's botched tech adventures ;)
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> larister  cynic ;)
[10:22] <ronsonol> May not just be on AMD64, I wouldn't know.
[10:23] <Amoz> larister, it would be safe, if you'd choose the bootloader to install on the external HDD as well
[10:23] <larister> MonkeyDust: hehe
[10:23] <larister> Amoz: I didn't see that option, I was just using the default wizard
[10:23] <soreau> larister: Helping people that are frantically trying to fix one's botched tech adventures
[10:23] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: .... waiting
[10:23] <larister> soreau: touche, and appreciated :)
[10:23] <lhk> can you help me how to get back the default ui settings on ubuntu 11.10 with gnome 3 ?
[10:24] <Amoz> larister, default wizard?
[10:24] <Amoz> larister, did you install via Wubi?
[10:24] <soreau> larister: no problem.. so anyway I'd boot that windoze disk and repair the mbr but that is beyond the scope of this channel unfortunately
[10:24] <aLeSD> hi all
[10:24] <Kebabsvarvare> Same problem, gordon1234 :/
[10:24] <Amoz> larister, or did you make an ubuntu install cd out of your HDD with the live cd creator tool?
[10:24] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter found! <-- you sure about having nvidia?
[10:24] <larister> Amoz: sorry just trying to remember I think so
[10:24] <aLeSD> someone could give me a tutorial to install the kernel 3.2.5 on 11.10 ?
[10:24] <larister> Amoz: it was a little while ago I made the install pen drive
[10:25] <ronsonol> Kebabsvarvare: what kernel you running?
[10:26] <arshad> i hope this irc thing works
[10:26] <Siegel-> hello. i have a question. i dont know how to install codecs plugins for firefox/google chrome ubuntu latest version.
[10:26] <larister> Amoz: I think it was something like LinuxLiveUSB but not sure
[10:26] <arshad> anyone here>
[10:26] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: Yes.
[10:26] <mionick> amimusa: i use flasplugin 11.1 r102 with chromium and firefox . In all two it works (ubuntu 2.6.32-24-generic)
[10:26] <ajnabicancer> Almoxarife: i'm using it on XP
[10:26] <arshad> I have a question about unity in 12.04
[10:26] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: in terminal           lspci | pastebinit
[10:26] <Amoz> larister, in the case you didn't really "install" ubuntu on it. You were probably making a live usb of it
[10:26] <bazhang> arshad, #ubuntu+1 please
[10:27] <arshad> okay sorry
[10:27] <larister> Amoz: maybe, but then I ran the 'install linux' wizard and selected my external HDD as the place to install it
[10:27] <Siegel-> does anyone know how to install codec plugin on ubuntu
[10:27] <ajnabicancer> http://pastebin.com/1dEf13a2
[10:28] <bazhang> Siegel-, ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[10:28] <Siegel-> bazhang: how to i attain that?
[10:28] <amimusa> mionick, i have this: http://pastebin.com/zT6t6T7x
[10:29] <bazhang> Siegel-, from the software centre
[10:29] <amimusa> do you know what could am I skipping ?
[10:29] <Siegel-> bazhang: ill have a look, thanks
[10:29] <Kebabsvarvare> I just installed a fresh 11.10 x64 3.0.0-12 install just a few hours ago, ronsonol
[10:29] <amimusa> i just upgraded now, mionick
[10:29] <ajnabicancer> Almoxarife: http://pastebin.com/1dEf13a2
[10:29] <amimusa> the sumbolic link maybe ?¿
[10:29] <Siegel-> bazhang: its just that i usually download things and then i get a zip file that i dont know what to do with
[10:30] <Amoz> Kebabsvarvare, what was the command you gave for shutting it down?
[10:30] <bazhang> Siegel-, software should be installed from the software repositories
[10:30] <bazhang> !repos | Siegel-
[10:30] <Kebabsvarvare> sudo shutdown 5, was that stupid?
[10:31] <Amoz> Kebabsvarvare, no
[10:31] <mionick> amimusa: sorry for stupid question .. after update you closed and opened browser ?
[10:31] <amimusa> yeah
[10:31] <amimusa> not stupid question ... haha, sometime we skip the most obvius lol
[10:31] <amimusa> but i did it
[10:31] <amimusa> several times
[10:31] <Amoz> Kebabsvarvare, but it sounds like you put the command in rc.local  or something
[10:31] <amimusa> i feel confused ...
[10:31] <kinglet> hello again and thanks! problem solved xD after rebooting
[10:32] <ronsonol> Kebabsvarvare: I just reinstalled,  after update manager upgraded to 3.0.0-16,  attempts to login to alternate tty's were greeted with "login incorrect."
[10:32] <mionick> amimusa sorry again //  in about:plugins you have plugin listed ?
[10:32] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: do you know how to edit grub?
[10:33] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: What is grub? tell me may be i can easily follow.
[10:33] <amimusa> mionick, is not active ... that's what i don't understand why
[10:33] <amimusa> so, no, it is not at the list
[10:33] <kinglet> soreau, thanks problem solved xD
[10:33] <soreau> kinglet: cool
[10:33] <Siegel-> bazhang: ok it opened up my ubuntu software center and it told me i already installed the extras package. but still many websites wont play because they say im missing the codec-c plugi or something. for example, veehd.com, gorillavic
[10:34] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/79325/problem-with-fresh-wubi-installation <-- see answer 1, see if you can follow thru
[10:34] <Amoz> Siegel-, you need flash maybe?
[10:34] <Siegel-> Amoz: alright, im trying to download the flash plugins now
[10:34] <larister> Amoz: Windows said 'it couldn't detect any problems with the startup' - helpful as always. Any other ideas?
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> ajnabicancer  this is what grub looks like http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/image55.png
[10:34] <Siegel-> the flashplugin-installer package Amoz
[10:35] <Amoz> Siegel-, what version you on? 11.10 ?
[10:35] <Amoz> of Ubuntu
[10:35] <fanshouxiang> hi
[10:35] <mionick> amimusa: and it don't allow you to reactivate ?
[10:35] <Siegel-> ye the latest
[10:35] <Amoz> Siegel-, i think it is adobe-flashplugin then
[10:35] <Siegel-> Amoz: yes thats whats being installed right now
[10:35] <mauricessid> Hello, quick question: I am using Apache 2.2.20 on Ubuntu and would like to upgrade to 2.4. I how read throught the upgrade notes but am unable to complete this successfully. I downloaded the unix source and when using ./configure it says APR not found...Anyone have an idea
[10:35] <Siegel-> Amoz: on the list i also saw that one wasnt checked.
[10:35] <Amoz> larister, hmm, that's weird
[10:36] <larister> Amoz: yeah bit of a pain
[10:36] <larister> Amoz: desperately trying to avoid a complete reinstall
[10:37] <Amoz> larister, you've got an option though
[10:37] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: i have edited grub before.
[10:37] <Siegel-> Amoz: does veehd work for you?
[10:37] <larister> Amoz: what's that?
[10:37] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: which line i have to replace. "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"?
[10:37] <Amoz> if the windows partition is still intact , you can install ubuntu to disk, and get a fresh grub bootloader, and hopefully it will detect the windows install as well
[10:37] <Amoz> larister, no guarantees though
[10:37] <ajnabicancer> almoxarif: just tell me here. i can't properly follow the answer mentioned in the link. it's confusing....
[10:38] <Amoz> larister, and it's not really a solution. more like a workaround..
[10:38] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: is that your current line?
[10:38] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: no, but i changed that line before. so i remember this line has to be edited. i copied the mentined line from the link you pasted.
[10:38] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: in terminal        pastebinit -i /etc/default/grub
[10:39] <larister> Amoz: ah ok, so just install ubuntu on to the main HDD and hopefully it'll then play nice with it's brother on the same HDD?
[10:39] <Siegel-> Amoz: just went to veehd and it still says im missing the plugin
[10:39] <amimusa> mionick, no, that's the thing  I can't understand why
[10:39] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: http://pastebin.com/XWP3QFk8
[10:39] <amimusa> mionick, i click and nothing happends
[10:40] <manneddu> saludu
[10:40] <Siegel-> Amoz: gorillavid says the same. missing codec-c plugin
[10:40] <ajnabicancer> monkeydust: i never heard sound in ubuntu. is this sound problem
[10:40] <mionick> amimusa: sorry for my bad english ... i don't know ,, is strange .. usually for me works not very well but always worked
[10:41] <Amoz> larister, well dualboot should be no problems
[10:41] <manneddu> !list
[10:42] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: nomodeset is already there, so that wont help, not sure what vga=775 does
[10:42] <larister> Amoz: not a bad idea, thanks
[10:42] <Amoz> larister, ubuntu should be able to shrink the windows partition and run side by side together with windows
[10:42] <lhk> hi
[10:42] <Amoz> larister, I've done it for a few years, when I still needed windows for other stuff
[10:42] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: i know nothing brother.
[10:42] <lhk> when i try to start nautilus this happens:
[10:42] <lhk> http://pastebin.com/z0c9Lcm6
[10:42] <amimusa> no worries mionick ... thank you anyway, your english is not bad
[10:42] <Amoz> larister, great option if you don't want to choose one
[10:43] <larister> Amoz: yeah I think you're right. only thing is, when I was installing Ubuntu on my external HDD, it didn't give my main drive as an option
[10:43] <amimusa> mionick, maybe i installed a wrong package, i am redoing the process
[10:43] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: is your monitor max at 1280×1024?
[10:43] <mionick> amimusa:  i seen you have not others plugins that enter in conflict
[10:43] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: i am using 1208x1024 in XP
[10:44] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: ok
[10:44] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: and maybe that is max.
[10:44] <mauricessid> Hello, quick question: I am using Apache 2.2.20 on Ubuntu and would like to upgrade to 2.4. I how read throught the upgrade notes but am unable to complete this successfully. I downloaded the unix source and when using ./configure it says APR not found...Anyone have an idea
[10:44] <mionick> amimusa: good idea .  first meake sudo apt-get upgrade   ( i always read this in internet :D )
[10:45] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: look in ' additional drivers' insure nvidia is picked chosen
[10:45] <Siegel-> Amoz: i downloaded the flash and installed and its still not working. is it the dvix plugin that i need? how do i get it/
[10:45] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: where is "additional drivers"
[10:46] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: in systems
[10:46] <mohan__> Does anyone able to update via Update Manager ? I can browse well...but not able to update..getting error message says "Check your internet connection.."
[10:46] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: its not there "additional drivers"
[10:47] <mohan__> to be more accurate ..Failed to download repository information
[10:47] <lhk> hey could someone here answer me ?
[10:47] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: restricted drivers?
[10:47] <lhk> i've got a serious problem:
[10:47] <lhk> http://pastebin.com/z0c9Lcm6
[10:47] <lhk> even after reinstalling everything related to canberra via synaptic
[10:47] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: no
[10:47] <amimusa> mionick, it's working now
[10:47] <lhk> this still happens
[10:49] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: Press System → Administration → Hardware drivers
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> !info canberra
[10:49] <amimusa> mionick, thanks for your feedbacks
[10:49] <amimusa> have a good day
[10:49] <Oer> lhk did you reinstall " sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk-module "
[10:49] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: not present
[10:49] <mionick> amimusa: well i happy for you     what you done ?
[10:49] <lhk> Oer: I'll run that code now
[10:50] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: which, the option or the driver?
[10:50] <soreau> ajnabicancer: almoxarife: It's called different things in the menu depending on the ubuntu version. It's all jockey(-gtk|-kde)
[10:50] <lhk> ubotto: i never had a problem with canberra so far
[10:50] <lhk> nautilus just stopped working
[10:50] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: what version of ubuntu?
[10:50] <soreau> ajnabicancer: It's probably the restricted drivers entry
[10:51] <lhk> Oer: sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk-module
[10:51] <lhk> sorry that was the wrong paste
[10:51] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: soreau: nothing relative present
[10:51] <lhk> Oer: libcanberra-gtk-module is already the newest version.
[10:52] <almoxarife> soreau: this is why people rely on terminal, its impossible to point to a graphics option
[10:52] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: what version of ubuntu?
[10:52] <soreau> ajnabicancer: I don't even know what' you're trying to do
[10:52] <soreau> almoxarife: Yes that's why I prefer cli in most cases
[10:52] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: how to check version
[10:52] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: what did you install, 11.04/10 10.04/10 ???
[10:52] <soreau> ajnabicancer: lsb_release -a
[10:53] <Oer> lhk what did you do before this happened, installed a theme or .. ?
[10:53] <lhk> Oer: I installed a few Qt packages in order to run qtparted
[10:53] <ajnabicancer> Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS Release:	10.04 Codename:	lucid
[10:53] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: soreau: Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS Release:	10.04 Codename:	lucid
[10:54] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: hey, i dont know that it would make a difference in this present problem, but have you considered upgrading??
[10:54]  * soreau wonders what the present problem is
[10:55] <almoxarife> soreau: installing and having a working nvidia configured wubi install
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> wubi
[10:56] <NyLes> what is the channel again for off topics?
[10:56] <soreau> ajnabicancer: What is the output of 'lspci|grep VGA'?
[10:56] <Oer> lhk i don't see how that could be related, but it might be the cause ..
[10:56] <soreau> ! ot | NyLes
[10:56] <almoxarife> soreau: the card is there
[10:56] <NyLes> soreau: thanks
[10:57] <soreau> almoxarife: Clearly, or else he wouldn't be able to see the screen
[10:57] <ddidderr> my default locale is not set. ls sorts files beginning with lowercase chars before files beginning with uppercase chars. I remember it had something to do with the locale. I already tried update-locale command and tried to set the variable by hand, but behaviour of ls didn't change.
[10:57] <Infernal> Hello. Running 11.10. Tried running TF2, after crash i can no longer log in, it gives a black screen with battery check etc for ~1sec. And then returns me to the login screen. I'm able to login via Ubuntu 2D.
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> what's TF2?
[10:58] <Infernal> Team Fortress 2
[10:59] <pauser> hi, does anyone has problems with browsers ?
[10:59] <soreau> ! anyone | pauser
[10:59] <almoxarife> soreau: http://pastebin.com/1dEf13a2 , ajnabicancer lspci
[11:00] <ajnabicancer> soreau: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV30GL [Quadro FX 1000] (rev a2)
[11:00] <mionick> hi .. anyone know if is possible increase size and move  casper-rw in other devices out of usb key  ?
[11:01] <soreau> ajnabicancer: and you see nothing in the restricted drivers manager?
[11:02] <somethinginteres> I am getting a "requires installation of untrusted packages" error when I update and when I try to install anything. Why?
[11:02] <pauser> ok, im having problems with all my browsers (even with links2) . when i have to submit something , they just load all the time . is something wrong with system , how can i fix it ?
[11:02] <ajnabicancer> soreau: there is restricted drivers manager in system > administration
[11:02] <lhk> Oer: I'm currently removing those new packages
[11:02] <soreau> ajnabicancer: yes, and what do you see after starting that program
[11:02] <NyLes> can ubuntu beat puppy with regards to hardware support?
[11:03] <lhk> nope, nautilus still doesn't run
[11:03] <lhk> same error:
[11:03] <lhk> http://pastebin.com/z0c9Lcm6
[11:03] <ajnabicancer> soreau: sorry my typing mistake. i don't see restricted drivers manager in system
[11:03] <soreau> ajnabicancer: Try 'gksu jockey-gtk' from your terminal
[11:04] <soreau> ajnabicancer: In Lucid it's called Hardware Drivers
[11:04] <maitrey> Hi to everyone. I have some problem with playing the youtube videos and videos in general (10.04). I guess it must be some issue with the adobe flasplayer, but its installed and seems to run fine. Is there someone to help me? thanks
[11:05] <ubuntu> cześć
[11:05] <ubuntu> mam problem
[11:05] <ubuntu> z lubuntu
[11:05] <ubuntu> nie mogę sie zalogować ani wpisać hasła
[11:06] <ubuntu> może mi ktoś pomóc ?
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> !pl
[11:06] <ajnabicancer> soreau: hardware drivers was present there before removing nvidia drivers. but now there is no "hardware drivers"
[11:06] <soreau> ajnabicancer: What are you trying to do?
[11:06] <phpn00b> hello
[11:06] <ubuntu> hello
[11:07] <phpn00b> ubuntu, I have a stability problem
[11:07] <ajnabicancer> soreau: i'm trying to solve nvidia driver problem.
[11:07] <soreau> ajnabicancer: Then why did you remove the drivers?
[11:07] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: can you please tell soreau: all what we did.
[11:07] <mionick> maitrey: which real problems ?
[11:07] <soreau> ajnabicancer: Sounds like a lot I'm not interested in..
[11:08] <phpn00b> I was watching Youtube and  playing glines and my laptop suddenly stopped responding. I could move the mouse pointer but nothing was reacting on any action of the mouse. The system also can not switch to the console when pressing on alt+ctrl+f1. Any idea. How I can locate the cause next time it hangs
[11:08] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: hes above the little problems in life, some people are, what to do
[11:09] <soreau> almoxarife: Did you have him remove jockey in pm?
[11:09] <NyLes> can i update my ubuntu 10.04 to kernel 3.x?
[11:09] <almoxarife> soreau: dont make accusations, and no
[11:09] <ajnabicancer> Soreau: i removed jockey while removing nvidia package.
[11:09] <Amoz> NyLes, wouldn't recommend that
[11:09] <almoxarife> soreau: i dont do PM
[11:10] <phpn00b> some one helps me
[11:10] <Amoz> NyLes, but I'm quite sure you can
[11:10] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: did jockey crash?
[11:10] <maitrey> mionick: if i want to open some video on youtube or imdb its loading black screen. i know there is a trick for youtube  apart from having flash running, but i need that for any videos (imdb and so on).
[11:10] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: i don't know.
[11:10] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: you did?
[11:10] <mohan__> what is the  keyboard shorcut to show desktop in Ubuntu ?
[11:11] <NyLes> Amoz: i see, I'm having this problem with my sound card and on the other channel 3.x has support for more older hardware..
[11:11] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: might want to re-install jockey
[11:11] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: there was jockey present in nvidia packages, when you told me to remove nvidia packages.....
[11:11] <NyLes> Amoz: i see, I'm having this problem with my sound card and on the other channel they sad 3.x has support for more older hardware..
[11:11] <Amoz> NyLes, why are you still on 10.04 ?
[11:12] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: perhaps, but you did not mention 'jockey', no matter
[11:12] <ajnabicancer> Soreau: yesterday, i believe you told to remove all drivers and said something about graphic utility.
[11:12] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: have you re-installed 'jockey'?
[11:12] <zane> hi i am running ubuntu without X installed and my console resolution only takes up a small portion of my laptop screen. can someone tell me how to change it so it fills the entire screen?
[11:12] <mionick> maitrey:   i know ,maybe is stupid but try this test if it works   http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html
[11:12] <NyLes> Amoz: I'm into like testing mode? and uses 10.04 as the starting point :D after a successful install i will move on to 10.10 and so on..
[11:13] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: there was many of packages those i can't type...
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> mohan__  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[11:13] <zane> i can get the resolution of grub to change but it doesn't carry over into the console
[11:13] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: tell me how to install jockey
[11:13] <mohan__> monkeydust ...thank u
[11:13] <Amoz> NyLes, in that case, test as much as you want
[11:13] <Amoz> NyLes, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[11:13] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: lets insure your ubuntu is complete
[11:13] <soreau> ajnabicancer: I didn't tell anyone to remove all drivers.. ever
[11:14] <Amoz> NyLes, you need to install three packages from the version you want
[11:14] <soreau> ajnabicancer: Just try apt-get install jockey
[11:14] <zane> what is causing this because it's very aggravating
[11:14] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: type    sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:14] <NyLes> Amoz: thanks, what packages?
[11:14] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: lets insure your ubuntu is complete
[11:14] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:14] <Amoz> NyLes, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2.7-precise/
[11:14] <Amoz> for example from that version
[11:14] <soreau> almoxarife: I suspect he already has ubuntu-desktop installed.. perhaps you mean with --reinstall?
[11:15] <Amoz> NyLes, you need to install linux-headers _all and _amd64 for instance
[11:15] <ajnabicancer> soreau: you are right, i'm just reminding about you suggestion you made for me yesterday. but i havn't took any action at that time due to some electricity reasons.
[11:15] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: that will insure what ever is missing is reloaded
[11:15] <Amoz> NyLes, and the linux-image
[11:15] <pauser> how can i solve my problem with my browsers , they load all the time when i submit something ?!
[11:15] <zane> can someone help me to change my console resolution so that it fills the entire screen?
[11:15] <Amoz> NyLes, with the correct architecture
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> zane  F11 ?
[11:15] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: done
[11:16] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: see packages needing to install/ed?
[11:16] <maitrey> mionick: i'll try
[11:16] <zane> MonkeyDust: F11? what?
[11:17] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: did jockey install along with the ubuntu-desktop install?
[11:17] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: soreau: now there is "hardware drivers"
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> zane  in general, F11 is for fullscreen
[11:17] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: good
[11:17] <zane> MonkeyDust: i'm pressing it right now and nothing
[11:17] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: is nvidia shown?
[11:18] <ajnabicancer> yes three of them. current, 96 and 173
[11:18] <Afzal> is there a way to install ubuntu in another partition from an existing ubuntu session? preferably some installer, don't feel like editing files right now
[11:18] <maitrey> mionick: yeah, really i can't see it as well as anything else. However it's surely not stupid. It's only testing if I am not stupid :-)
[11:18] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: shown as active?
[11:18] <zane> what governs the console resolution once the system has booted?
[11:18] <piyush> Unable  to reset root password of Ubuntu box from a fedora Live CD...
[11:18] <bazhang> piyush, there is no root password enabled
[11:19] <zane> i've never seen anything like this where the screen is rendered to a small box surrounded by black.....
[11:19] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: current is active
[11:19] <piyush> @bazhang :exactly..but i had issured init 0 from # n machine went down
[11:19] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: cool,
[11:19] <zane> shouldn't it fill the ENTIRE screen regardless of the resolution?
[11:20] <bazhang> piyush, you would not use a fedora live cd to fix an ubuntu issue
[11:20] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: reboot :)
[11:20] <soreau> zane: You might need to set a video option.. do you have two screens plugged in?
[11:20] <rayden_> how can i change root passwd? or how can i find it?
[11:20] <piyush> @bazhang: yeah , but right now m out of options. only fedora at spare..can we make way out of it..
[11:20] <zane> soreau: no, one screen. this is on my laptop screen.
[11:20] <pauser> can somebody help me solving my problem , please ?
[11:21] <bazhang> rayden_, you dont. use sudo
[11:21] <soreau> zane: what graphics card is it?
[11:21] <zane> soreau: radeon mobility 7000
[11:21] <zane> soreau: that shouldn't matter. i dont have X installed
[11:21] <ganeshran> Hi Everyone, my wireless network stops getting detected intermittently on Ubuntu. I am able to see all other networks though
[11:21] <zane> soreau: doesn't the console use the frame-buffer?
[11:22] <soreau> zane: It does indeed matter. The radeon driver does KMS
[11:22] <zane> soreau: then how do i uninstall it and use a regular vga driver
[11:22] <ganeshran> After keeping the machine shut down for 2-3 hours , it starts detecting the wireless again. But windows works either way. Please help!! :)
[11:22] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: reboot done.
[11:22] <zane> soreau: or turn off KMS?
[11:22] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: in systems is there a app to make changes to nvidia?
[11:23] <soreau> zane: as a kernel parameter, try something like 'video=VGA-1:800x600' changing VGA-1 to the relevant information found from 'ls /sys/class/drm/'
[11:23] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: nvidia x server settings
[11:23] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: thats it, use it to configure your settings now
[11:23] <piyush> @bazhang : if we could load the environment on boot disk onto live one we can run "pwconv" ...
[11:24] <soreau> zane: or you can disable kms if you'd like with 'radeon.modeset=0' also as a kernel param
[11:24] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: i cannot
[11:24] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: can not?
[11:24] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: yes, it only show some lines with check boxes
[11:25] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: when i clicked the app it shows "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[11:25] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: can you snapshot your desktop and imagebin it?
[11:25] <rayden_> rayden@ubuntu:~$ su
[11:25] <rayden_> Password:
[11:25] <rayden_> su: Authentication failure
[11:25] <rayden_> rayden@ubuntu:~$
[11:25] <rayden_> why this?
[11:25] <LjL> !root | rayden_
[11:25] <bazhang> rayden_, root is not enabled
[11:26] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: ok wait...
[11:26] <bazhang> rayden_, use sudo as I suggested earlier
[11:26] <rayden_> how i enable bazhang ?
[11:26] <piyush> @rayden_ : try su -
[11:26] <bazhang> rayden_, you have no reason to
[11:26] <LjL> rayden_: don't. use sudo.
[11:26] <bazhang> piyush, no
[11:26] <LjL> piyush: that won't work either.
[11:26] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: never mind the snapshot, follow the directions given by the error message
[11:27] <rayden_> my tutorial say use sudo :)
[11:27] <piyush> @LjL: but it worked ...well i wont do it again if u say..
[11:27] <MooMoo> sudo is good
[11:27] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: http://imagebin.org/200874
[11:27] <zane> soreau: 'radeon.modeset=0' didn't work
[11:27] <soreau> ! work | zane
[11:28] <zane> soreau: 'radeon.modeset=0' resulted in the same issue
[11:28] <ganeshran> Sorry to post this again, but does anyone face intermittent issues while connecting t wireless networks. It mysteriously stops dectecting only my wireless every now and then
[11:28] <zane> soreau: which is the console resolution being redered to about 25% of my laptop screen
[11:28] <soreau> zane: What is the output of 'dmseg|grep modeset'?
[11:29] <zane> soreau: Kernel command line with stuff that was in grub entry with 'radeon.modeset=0' attached
[11:30] <zane> soreau: how can i remove the radeon module and use standard vesa
[11:30] <NyLes> Amoz: ok,, they can be installed using using apt-get right?
[11:30] <soreau> zane: Does 'lsmod|grep radeon' show the radeon driver is loaded?
[11:30] <daem0n> anyone know if ubuntu 11 has support for ms keyboard & mouse?
[11:30] <OTELO_Koiti> hy. i want to use gparted to make my systemvolume smaler, but i cant edit it when ubuntu is running. what am i doing false?
[11:30] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: there is something that cant be discounted, a wubi install may allow or not allow certain things to happen, i dont know, i used wubi for the longest time too, didnt have nvidia though to play with
[11:30] <zane> soreau: yes
[11:30] <soreau> zane: Try booting with radeon.dontloadme=1
[11:31] <rayden_> root@ubuntu:~#
[11:31] <rayden_>  if i see this i am root full access ?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> OTELO_Koiti  you cannot edit or modify an active or running partition, better use a live cd
[11:31] <zane> soreau: ok
[11:31] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: what do you recommend. i want to use xp too.
[11:31] <nullslash> do you have ubutnu dev channel ?
[11:31] <soreau> rayden_: yes, # means root
[11:31] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  thats showing you are logged into a root shell. so yes. you are root.
[11:31] <OTELO_Koiti> ok thanks. i thought that isnt possibly, but i hoped there will be a way without live dc
[11:31] <rayden_> is there a way to make more space in / ?
[11:31] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: how long you been using wubi?
[11:31] <nullslash> do you have Ubuntu dev channel ?
[11:32] <daem0n> last time I checked out ubuntu (ver 9 I think) it wouldnt recognize my ms mouse/keyboard
[11:32] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  resize it to make it larger. or delete stuff you dont need. you could move /tmp or /var/ to other partions or move /home/
[11:32] <nullslash> Where is it? it seems that Ubuntu-dev has only 4 people
[11:32] <soreau> rayden_: You could make the partition larger I suppose
[11:32] <ajnabicancer> i am xp user. i installed ubuntu past 6-7 month.
[11:32] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: i am xp user. i installed ubuntu past 6-7 month.
[11:32] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: nevermind, ok, do this, install the latest wubi installable ubuntu, what is it? 11.10?
[11:32] <rayden_> i just need to install updates and say no have space
[11:33] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  an sudo apt-get clean, sudo apt-get autoremove  might clean out some cache space to let you do the updates.
[11:33] <Amoz> NyLes, no
[11:33] <Amoz> NyLes, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[11:33] <Amoz> NyLes, visit the link
[11:33] <Amoz> NyLes, and download the packages you want
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> rayden_  make sure you don't have any obsolete kernels
[11:33] <piyush> booting from live CD. how to load boot disk environment onto live ,so that i can run commands as if booted from bootdisk...
[11:33] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: can you please find me a link. this linux stuff is new for me. i only use this much cause of DOS & xp
[11:33] <NyLes> Amoz: i see thanks..
[11:33] <zane> soreau: was the cmd 'radeon.dontloadme=1' ?
[11:34] <rayden_> Dr_willis, i am confused
[11:34] <soreau> zane: it's a kernel parameter
[11:34] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: link to ?
[11:34] <zane> soreau: outputted 'unknown kernel parameter'
[11:34] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  about what?  sounds to me like you may need to figure out how to give ubuntu more space if you are allready out of space.
[11:34] <ajnabicancer> wubi ubuntu
[11:34] <soreau> zane: Right, it's a nonexistent parameter so it should just not load the radeon module
[11:35] <rayden_> Dr_willis, yes but i am new to ubuntu i am a windows user :P
[11:35] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  so?
[11:35] <rayden_> Dr_willis,  so all u say to me is like a labirinth
[11:35] <zane> soreau: ?
[11:36] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  the command  'sudo apt-get clean'  cleans out the old apt cache.  'sudo apt-get autoremove'  removes unneeded packages.
[11:36] <zane> soreau: oh ok, the radeon mod isn't loaded but same issue
[11:36] <rayden_> Dr_willis,  is there a command or somthink for that?
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> rayden_  http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[11:36] <zane> soreau: let me try that vga parameter
[11:37] <zane> soreau: but if i try that parameter will the radeon kms override it?
[11:37] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  for what exactly?
[11:37] <rayden_> Dr_willis, root@ubuntu:~# sudo apt-get clean
[11:37] <rayden_> root@ubuntu:~#
[11:37] <rayden_>  done??
[11:38] <zane> i just came from arch because pacman broke my system, so i know the console will fill the screen.
[11:38] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: i am also facing sound issue. i don't hear startup sound or any action sound.
[11:38] <zane> i'm going to try that vga parameter
[11:38] <ajnabicancer> soreau: what do you recommend about nvidia drivers?
[11:38] <soreau> zanoi: No, you need kms enabled for the video parameter to work
[11:39] <soreau> ajnabicancer: I'd try just removing and reinstalling the driver with the jockey utility
[11:39] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: no sound at all?
[11:39] <rayden_> Dr_willis, may i pm?
[11:39] <figure002> hi. my PC has an on-board VGA chip (brand VIA UniChrome), but it's poorly supported (no compiz and stuff), so I'd like to know if it's possible to connect a second video card (say Intel, which I believe is well supported) to the motherboard and make Ubuntu use that one. Is that possible?
[11:39] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: yes
[11:39] <lalakis> linux
[11:40] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  i may leave at any time. and its best to chat in the channel..
[11:40] <ajnabicancer> soreau: i have done this removing and reinstalling method. it's my 3rd day i repeated this method. please be more specific about jockey utility.
[11:40] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  if the command did not return an erorr.. then it succeded... thats normal for unix/linux commands.
[11:40] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: no sound at all.
[11:40] <soreau> figure002: If it has an AGP or PCI-E slot (a video card slot) then you can install another card. Otherwise you're stuck with whatever onboard gpu it has
[11:40] <rayden_> Dr_willis, ok
[11:41] <soreau> ajnabicancer: The jockey utility is just the 'hardware drivers' entry
[11:41] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: anything in the ubuntu side that needs to be saved? personal stuff created? if yes then move it to /host, that is your win hardrive, on windows uninstall wubi, and start from scratch, with a newer ubuntu version
[11:41] <mionick> maitrey:  is good if you don't see nothing in any part , so you know is a general problem :)
[11:41] <rayden_> Dr_willis, i want to install xampp and when i start xampp apache ftp run msql no...
[11:41] <lalakis> does anyone know about c programming language ?
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> !xammp
[11:41] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: or is it /media/host/?
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> !xampp
[11:41] <LjL> lalakis: the guys in ##c most likely do
[11:41] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  sounds like you need to set up your system with more space dedicated for the linux install.
[11:41] <zenon> hello people, on ubuntu 11.10 & just was looking in sys info graphics & it's listing Driver Unknown Experience Standard, I take it I'v not fully set up my graphics card?
[11:42] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  are you using a wubi install? or a normal install?
[11:42] <lalakis> Ljt i try to connect to c channel but i cant
[11:42] <rayden_> Dr_willis, console install
[11:42] <Neikius> hello, anyone knows how to stop grub from probing certain devices that cause it to hang?
[11:42] <Neikius> during update that is
[11:42] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  you did an actual 'server' install you mean?
[11:42] <figure002> soreau: thank you for your answer. so if one of those slots is present, I have to buy a GPU card which has a connection for that specific slot?
[11:42] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: there is nothing important i have in ubuntu.
[11:43] <rayden_> Dr_willis, yes... i need database for lineage 2 game
[11:43] <ajnabicancer> soreau: what should i do in "harware drivers"
[11:43] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: i know this about wubi, if the wubi.exe is in the same folder as the ubuntu.iso it will use it
[11:43] <soreau> figure002: Yes. There are also video cards for PCI slots but whether or not it would be worth it is debateable
[11:43] <soreau> debatable*
[11:44] <figure002> soreau: ok, thanks
[11:44] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  so whats the problem? - your disk space is going tobe very tight if this is a clean install and you are allready running out space.
[11:44] <soreau> ajnabicancer: just remove whatever is installed and reinstall the latest version
[11:44] <ubuntu> hello
[11:44] <lalakis> does anyone know about c programming language ?  i cant connect to the #C  channel thats why i am askign here
[11:44] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: so, take a current ubuntu version? 11.10?
[11:44] <theadmin> lalakis: It's ##c
[11:44] <Dr_willis> lalakis,  you need to be a 'registered' user to join that channel i imagine..
[11:44] <soreau> lalakis: ##C? you might need a registered nick
[11:44] <lalakis> how can i register?
[11:44] <Dr_willis> !register
[11:44] <soreau> ! register | lalakis
[11:45] <rayden_> Dr_willis, i just dont know exactly why no space ... i install ubuntu on a hard drive with 150 gb space
[11:45] <ubuntu> does anyone know how to accelerate the download?
[11:45] <mionick> maitrey: with about:config you can see all plugins in your browser . try to deactivate them all and let only flashplayer plugin
[11:45] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  time to check the output of mount, and fdisk -l, and see how your disk is partioned then .  could be you made /  too small.
[11:46] <soreau> ubuntu: Get a faster connection? What download?
[11:46] <ubuntu> faster connection that's what i mean
[11:47] <chown_> just out of curiosity, how is it possible to do this things at the desktop: http://download.tuxfamily.org/glxdock/mediacolor/album3/1318236597_2e7a89592a.png
[11:47] <bkerensa> ubuntu: Could you better explain your question?
[11:47] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: i have made another partition for ubuntu installation and iso is in other partition.
[11:47] <zane> soreau: i fixed it by adding 'set gfxpayload=keep' in grub
[11:47] <rayden_> Dr_willis, Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
[11:47] <rayden_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
[11:47] <rayden_> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[11:47] <rayden_> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[11:47] <rayden_> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[11:47] <rayden_> Disk identifier: 0x40d49aee
[11:47] <FloodBot1> rayden_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <soreau> zane: cool
[11:48] <zane> soreau: so aggravating........
[11:48] <zane> soreau: thanks for your help though
[11:48] <bkerensa> rayden_: Please use paste.ubuntu.com for pasting
[11:48] <zane> i don't know if i like grub2
[11:48] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  install and use the 'pastebinit' command or a pastebin site.
[11:48] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: Release:	10.04 | Release:	10.04
[11:48] <zane> doing this was soooooooooooooooooo simple in grub legacy
[11:48] <Dr_willis> !mount | rayden_
[11:48] <bkerensa> chown_: You could customize like that with Cairo Dock
[11:48] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[11:49] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: you want to have a more current version!
[11:50] <zenon> whys it say linux swap / solaris?
[11:50] <marius1> Hi everyone! I have a problem here and I need some help.
[11:50] <rayden_> Dr_willis, i have one hor of ubuntu and i have so many uestions :|
[11:50] <Dr_willis> zenon,  why what says that and where?
[11:50] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife: ok, i also hear about something named fodera or ???? what do you say about that.
[11:51] <Bhavesh> WUBI installs ubuntu on a windows partition then will my Ubuntu run on NTFS or the standard Ubuntu format partition?
[11:51] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  you may want to go spend an hr or 3 reading some beginner guides. and bash guides. and you may want to start with the normal desktop version.   it can work as a server just like the server edition does.
[11:51] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: i dont know fedora, but i dont think fedora allows itself to install via windows
[11:51] <Neikius> so can anyone help me with my grub problem? I dont wanna have an unbootable system...
[11:51] <zenon> I try'ed sudo fdisk -l
[11:51] <Bhavesh> as NTFS may not be as good as Ubuntu partition, shall I install Ubuntu with wubi or install it directly on the hard drive?
[11:51] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: fedora is a distro/version of linux, like ubuntu
[11:51] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  starting from zero knowledge and learnng only from IRC. is not going to be very easy. time spend reading will get you more knowledge of the fundamentals faster.
[11:51] <rayden_> Dr_willis, i have the desktop ubuntu
[11:52] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  you said you did a server/console install earlier...
[11:52] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: can you pm me?
[11:52] <almoxarife> ajnabicancer: not sure if the pm'er is off
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> zenon  and you want to know what swap is?
[11:52] <Dr_willis> !swap
[11:53] <pilz> Hi. Where do I find checksums for the CD images?
[11:53] <maitrey> you know whats funny. I have seen the plugins in mozzila and chrome as well both are saying its disabled because its old and that i should update. as long is i try to update its loading and on the end it says that i have flash already installed (which i really have). this is the message in mozilla : For your safety, Firefox has disabled your outdated version of Flash. Please upgrade to the latest version.
[11:53] <Bhavesh> what is preferable wubi or direct installation?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> direct
[11:54] <Dr_willis> wubi is somthing that most people in here seem to hate.. for good reasons. :)
[11:54] <ikonia> Bhavesh: up to you, I don't think wubi as a technology is a sound process, but some people like it
[11:54] <Bhavesh> I've never used wubi before. But have installed and uninstalled ubuntu almost 15 times..
[11:54] <Dr_willis> from a 'techinal support person' - wubi is a real pain.
[11:55] <Dr_willis> !lamp | rayden_
[11:55] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  all i know about lamp and xampp is from that url. i dont use them.
[11:55] <Rim3nX> indeed it is... wubi isn't your first choise of solution to mutliboot
[11:55] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  and theres no need to msg me.
[11:56] <marius1> I just installed ubuntu 11.04 and after restart i can't choose between windows and ubuntu, just windows is booting, i google that and ppl say it's a grub problem, someone can help me pls?
[11:56] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  if your lamp install is in   /opt/lampp/lampp   i  have to wonder how you installed it.
[11:56] <rayden_> Dr_willis, u now how to install a database for server? other if xampp no work?
[11:56] <ikonia> marius1: what happens when you try to boot ubuntu
[11:56] <ikonia> rayden_: don't use xammp
[11:56] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  i dont use xampp or lamp. so no idea.
[11:56] <marius1> i cant boot it
[11:56] <marius1> i cant even see it
[11:56] <theadmin> Dr_willis: That's where XAMPP installs to (a very popular Apache-MySQL-PHP-Perl-etc package)
[11:56] <ikonia> rayden_: it's a self contained stack which really isn't useful
[11:56] <marius1> now i am running from stick live
[11:57] <rayden_> ikonia, what to use then?
[11:57] <ikonia> rayden_: a standard lamp stack can work with your OS much clearner and you'll have less problems
[11:57] <ikonia> !lamp | rayden_
[11:57] <zane> rayden_: what are you trying to accomplish?
[11:57] <ikonia> marius1: are you saying you no longer get the grub menu ? it just boots straight into Windows
[11:57] <marius1> ikonia: yes
[11:57] <ikonia> marius1: did you ever see the grub menu  ?
[11:57] <marius1> yes
[11:58] <Dr_willis> rayden_,  if you have been using Ubuntu for under 2 hrs..  and are now trying to jump right into using lamp/xampp  well...  thats  going to be a steap learning curve
[11:58] <zane> lol
[11:58] <ikonia> marius1: what changed ?
[11:58] <marius1> inokia: nothing changed, it just doesnt appear
[11:59] <marius1> it just boots straight to windows
[11:59] <ikonia> marius1: grub doesn't just delete it's self - something must have changed, re-installed/fixed windows, changed a setting in the bios etc
[11:59] <ikonia> marius1: something HAS to have changed.
[11:59] <Dr_willis> ive seen windows av apps or bios features over write grub to 'remove viruses' :) and trash grub.
[12:01] <marius1> ikonia: i havent change anything.. 1st time i used wubi, it was very slow with it.. and i deleted it and made a new partition for ubuntu, i installed it and now i cannot see the grub menu.. that's it
[12:01] <pilz> My ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso doesn't work, anybody have an md5 or something to verify?
[12:01] <theadmin> !md5sum | pilz
[12:01] <ikonia> marius1: OK - so you've re-installed ubuntu and deleted wubi, that is a pretty big change, rather than "nothing's changed"
[12:02] <marius1> ikonia: what to do now?
[12:02] <ikonia> marius1: well, the first thing you need to do is think about your answers when people ask a question
[12:02] <soreau> marius1: You could try installing grub from a live session
[12:03] <Dr_willis>  http://releases.ubuntu.com/MD5SUMS    seems empty.. odd...
[12:03] <marius1> soreau: a help with that would be great.. i am noob
[12:03] <soreau> ! grub2 | marius1
[12:03] <pilz> ubottu: that links to http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/MD5SUMS which is what I was looking for. Thanks!
[12:03] <Dr_willis> http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/MD5SUMS   there we go...
[12:03] <theadmin> Dr_willis: It indeed is, use releases.ubuntu.com/RELEASE/MD5SUMS
[12:04] <theadmin> Dr_willis: Yep, you guessed it :D
[12:04] <Dr_willis> wonder why they dont put them all in there. :)
[12:04] <Dr_willis> be nice to have the url in the factoid.
[12:04] <Rim3nX> I'm bad with irc clients... how do I connect to #ubuntu from epic5... I don't know how to change host to irc.freenode.net
[12:04] <OldManMagnusx> morning all.
[12:04] <zane> marius1: just reinstall ubuntu from the cd, your in over your head trying to re-install grub from a live cd
[12:04] <Dr_willis> Rim3nX,  most support the /server servername  or /connect servername   command
[12:05] <Dr_willis> Rim3nX,  you may want to try some differnt irc clients. like weechat or irssi or the other gui clients out.
[12:05] <zane> marius1: you have to mount fs, chroot, way tooooooooo much for a noob
[12:05] <Rim3nX> thanks
[12:05] <marius1> zane: i just re-installed ubuntu
[12:05] <OldManMagnusx> i want to compile some windows exe binaries on ubuntu. am i right in thinking that mingw isn't the tool i should be looking at?
[12:05] <zane> marius1: did you install grub to /dev/sda ?
[12:05] <marius1> zane: now i am about to..
[12:05] <soreau> theadmin: Dr_willis: Perhaps they shouldn't have md5/sha sums in the 'root' releases directory (since they're empty)
[12:05] <OldManMagnusx> Rim3nX: irssi is a good client.
[12:06] <Rim3nXXXXXXX> hehe... here it is, thanks :))))
[12:06] <Dr_willis> soreau,  or make it a link to a dir with all the sums for all the releases.
[12:06] <zane> marius1: and once you do that windows becomes dependent on grub for boot capability!!! so take heed noob! :-P
[12:06] <abdalla> hallo
[12:06] <Rim3nXXXXXXX> I prefere to do it from a terminal
[12:06] <zane> marius1: meaning, if something happens to you ubuntu install you won't be able to boot ubuntu or windows
[12:06] <soreau> Dr_willis: Yes, anything would be better than the confusing emptiness it is currently
[12:06] <Dr_willis> Rim3nXXXXXXX,  weechat and irssi are both very popular for terminal only irc.
[12:07] <zane> marius1: i mean if something happens to your grub through ubuntu install
[12:07] <Rim3nX> hey guys, how to add grid plugin to compiz ???
[12:07] <soreau> Rim3nX: install compiz-plugins-extra
[12:07] <marius1> zane: i get an error: it says cannot stat `aufs'
[12:08] <pauser> is there any way to reinstall the default audio drivers, because my mic did not record well and i tried to reinstall a new driver but i dont have any sound now
[12:08] <zane> marius1: are you trying to install grub from the live cd?
[12:08] <marius1> zane: yes
[12:08] <marius1> zane: actually live stick
[12:08] <zane> marius1: if so, you have to mount your ubuntu install and chroot. your in over you head
[12:08] <marius1> zane: usb
[12:08] <Dr_willis> pauser,  how did you 'reinstall a new driver' ?
[12:08] <zane> marius1: just reinstall ubuntu again!
[12:08] <soreau> marius1: You probably need to chroot into the system on the hard drive
[12:09] <zane> marius1: don't do that because then you have to mount proc and all that, too much for you. reinstall UBUNTU again
[12:09] <Somelauw> Hi, I can't upgrade my ubuntu because I'm holding broken packages. I don't know which are broken. Can anyone help me fix this problem?
[12:09] <zane> marius1: make sure you install grub to the MBR /DEV/SDA
[12:09] <Dr_willis> repairing grub is not that hard these days from a live cd with that new grub reparir tool.. when it works. :)
[12:09] <Rim3nX> it seams like I need to add ppa for that compiz-plugins-extra since it's not found
[12:09] <soreau> zane: It's not particularly polite to assume a task is too advanced for any user..
[12:09] <zane> soreau: he said he was a complete noob
[12:09] <marius1> zane: after reinstall i cannot boot ubuntu, so how could i install something?
[12:09] <Dr_willis> Hopefully that tool will be on the default 12.x live cds
[12:09] <Neikius> hello, anyone knows how to stop grub-probe from probing certain devices? it hangs my entire apt update and I have a possibly broken system now!?
[12:09] <zane> marius1: you didn't install grub correctly
[12:10] <soreau> zane: That's why we have guides.. for people that want to learn
[12:10] <soreau> ! chroot | marius1
[12:10] <pauser> Dr_willis: I downloaded it from www.alsa-project.org
[12:10] <Somelauw> I'm using 10.10
[12:10] <marius1> zane: how to install grub?
[12:10] <soreau> ! grub2 | marius1
[12:10] <zane> soreau: that is a highly advanced process for a linux noob
[12:10] <Rim3nX> can't find compiz-plugins-extras, maybe cause this is 10.04.4 ?
[12:10] <zane> soreau: with or without a guide
[12:11] <Dr_willis> pauser,  if you compiled it from source, then a 'sudo make uninstall' MIGHT remove it. but im not sure what the proper command would be to reinstall the old drivers.
[12:11] <zane> marius1: when you install ubuntu from usb stick it will ask you where to install grub
[12:11] <soreau> zane: I guess that all depends on your will power and intelligence level
[12:11] <marius1> zane: i never saw that
[12:11] <pauser> Dr_willis: no it was already compiled
[12:11] <zane> marius1: it's there, near the end of the install process
[12:12] <zane> marius1: ok marius1 i will walk you through the chroot process, are you ready?
[12:12] <zane> marius1: are you in the live cd environment right now?
[12:12] <theadmin> zane: It only asks where to install grub if you use advanced partitioning, if you use those simple options it just guesses where to install it
[12:12] <marius1> zane: yes
[12:13] <piyush> error at boot : sulogin  cannot open password database
[12:13] <zane> marius1: ok open a terminal, press CTRL+ALT+T
[12:13] <marius1> zane: done
[12:13] <Somelauw> Can anyone help me upgrade from 10.10 to 11.4?
[12:13] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife: how to pm again
[12:13] <zane> marius1: sudo fdisk -l, paste output to pastebin
[12:14] <theadmin> Somelauw: Just run the update manager, it'll take care of it for you
[12:14] <marius1> zane: ok.. i did that too
[12:15] <Dr_willis> pauser,  so we are back to 'exactly how/what commands' did you use to isntall them.
[12:15] <Somelauw> theadmin, I did that but got an error. I will run it again so I can screenshot the error (since I can't copy-paste it).
[12:15] <zane> marius1: show me output
[12:15] <zane> !pastebin
[12:15] <marius1> zane: Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
[12:15] <marius1> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
[12:15] <marius1> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[12:15] <marius1> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[12:15] <marius1> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[12:15] <marius1> Disk identifier: 0x6140f6bb
[12:15] <FloodBot1> marius1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:15] <theadmin> Somelauw: Meh the basic process is: disable third-party repos (ppas etc), remove third-party packages, run the upgrade.
[12:15] <Somelauw> It had something to do with broken packages.
[12:16] <soreau> marius1: Pastebin means to use a pastebin service such as pastebin.com or paste.ubuntu.com
[12:16] <soreau> marius1: Don't flood into the channel, that's why there's pastebin
[12:16] <Somelauw> theadmin: I just disabled ppa's. I didn't remove anything. I will run again and if it fails, I think I will try removing them.
[12:16] <zenon> thanks for info
[12:17] <zane> marius1: no, copy the text that came after 'sudo fdisk -l' ALL OF IT and put into pastebin and give me the link
[12:17] <zane> marius1: so i can identify your ubuntu partition
[12:17] <viktor_133> ! ubotto | off-topic
[12:17] <viktor_133> !ubotto | off-topic
[12:17] <piyush>  error at "single user boot" : sulogin  cannot open password database password database
[12:17] <Dr_willis> i wonder if it wouldent be easier to just try the 'boot-repair' tool --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[12:17] <Somelauw> It is probably easier to download ubuntu from scratch then removing anything I didn't install by using some update manager.
[12:18] <drake01> guys, how do i set the xterm cursor shape underline instead of default block shaped??
[12:18] <oCean> viktor_133: what are you trying to do?
[12:18] <theadmin> Somelauw: Correct. A clean install is always a better option
[12:18] <viktor_133> oCean, find the off-topic channel
[12:18] <Dr_willis> Somelauw,  theres the various ppa-purge tools also.
[12:18] <Daekdroom> !offtopic | viktor_133
[12:18] <oCean> viktor_133: it's #ubuntu-offtopic. To ask ubottu, us:  /msg ubottu !offtopic
[12:18] <Neikius> multipath devices + grub = DEATH IN FIRE
[12:18] <Neikius> dont ever try to update grub when multipath fails
[12:19] <theadmin> Neikius: multipath?
[12:19] <viktor_133> oCean, thnks, first time trying cli irc
[12:19] <Neikius> grub will hang itself and you will have a broken system
[12:19] <oCean> viktor_133: welcome!
[12:19] <Neikius> theadmin: yea, using ISCSI devices
[12:19] <Somelauw> Will a dist-upgrade nicely ask if I want to close irc?
[12:19] <theadmin> Neikius: Oh. Huh. I didn't know those cause problems... Then again, I write my grub configs manually lol...
[12:19] <Neikius> grub-probe hangs
[12:20] <Dr_willis> Somelauw,  ive never noticed it forceeing irc to close.
[12:20] <Neikius> 	grub-probe hangs probing devices that are broken/unavailable etc
[12:20] <theadmin> Somelauw: It won't close anything. See "man 2 unlink" for more details, but basically if the system needs to delete a currently open file (program, too) it will wait till that program closes before doing so. So you've got nothing to be scared of, you can use IRC while updating
[12:21] <Somelauw> theadmin: http://pastebin.com/C3jG0nM3
[12:22] <Guest19819> Hi, I just installed cairo-dock, can someone suggest how can I replace gnome-panel with that? I dont want gnome-panel, so is there a way to hide it?
[12:22] <theadmin> Guest19819: Why not stop using gnome? Use openbox or something like that...
[12:22] <piyush> how to run pwconv from livecd to sync shadow and passwd files on boot disk?
[12:23] <theadmin> Guest19819: Basically you can't use gnome without gnome-panel or gnome-shell or unity or some similar nonsense. You want a standalone window manager most likely
[12:23] <Dr_willis> Guest1080,  using unity/gnome-shell/gnome-2 or whate exactly?  And you may want to change nicks to somthing more readable.
[12:23] <Guest19819> theadmin, gnome and openbox are entirely different? i heard that name for the 1st time
[12:23] <Dr_willis> oops :) to avoide auto nick completion issues..
[12:24] <Dr_willis> Gnome is a desktop. openbox is a window manager.
[12:24] <theadmin> Guest19819: openbox is a wm (with an app launch menu though to make things a little easier), gnome is a huge load of apps (desktop environment)
[12:25] <mi3> hey, openbox is interesting after all theadmin
[12:25] <Dr_willis> You could just set whatever panel you dont want to see to auto hide.
[12:25] <theadmin> mi3: Sure is.
[12:26] <theadmin> The best *box around in my personal opinion... fluxbox, blackbox etc are meh
[12:26] <theadmin> But that's just me :D
[12:26] <Somelauw> Is there a single command that uninstalls all third-party packages?
[12:26] <Dr_willis> openbox dident handle compitiong does it?  or has it gained that featyre yet?
[12:26] <mi3> hmm
[12:26] <Dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[12:26] <Somelauw> Is everything I installed using sudo make deb considered a third-party package that precents me from updating?
[12:27] <theadmin> Dr_willis: You can use it with xcompmgr so it kind of does have compositing :)
[12:27] <Dr_willis> Somelauw,  not 'all'  but you can do them one at a time.
[12:27] <Dr_willis> theadmin,  thats what i was thinking. I had issues with xcompmgr last i tried it.
[12:27] <theadmin> Dr_willis: Works for me :$ Then again, I don't *usually* use compositing, but last I tried it worked
[12:27] <Somelauw> Or should I just uninstall everything I installed by using a ppa?
[12:27] <mi3> theadmin: hey, can I change the permissions of gnome-panel so that it wont load when I log in?
[12:28] <theadmin> mi3: That will end up giving you a loop -- it will log you out right after being logged in. Nay, won't work.
[12:28] <Dr_willis> mi3,  theres also this --->  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/how-to-create-standalone-compiz-session.html
[12:28] <mi3> theadmin: ohh i see
[12:28] <Dr_willis> mi3,  gnome and its panels are so tightly tied..  its easier to create your own session if you dont want the panels.
[12:29] <mi3> Dr_willis, i dont use compiz, dont like it much
[12:29] <Gallomimia> hi there. i'm trying to use a script called ftpmirror which crashes perl. i'm reading some bug reports from 2 years ago that claim it was fixed. is anyone familiar with these scripts? if not, can you tell me how i should go about discovering and upgrading the perl module installed on my ubuntu server?
[12:29] <Dr_willis> mi3,  it all depends on your needs and experience level.
[12:29] <Dr_willis> mi3,  you could use that guide as a basis for your own openbox+awn session i guess. or other ways
[12:30] <Dr_willis> some docks want compoziting, so that would require a wm that supports it. or like openbox+xcompmgr to get the eyecandy.
[12:30] <Somelauw> Dr_willis, theadmin: Is everything I installed using sudo make deb considered a third-party package that prevents me from updating or should I just uninstall everything that comes from a ppa?
[12:30] <mi3> Dr_willis: well my needs are umm conky[which i rely the most], and cairo-dock [which i installed right now], a few movies[for that i have a vlc] and some gallons of beer :)
[12:30] <Dr_willis> Somelauw,  'sudo make deb' ?
[12:31] <Somelauw> Dr_willis: That's how you make a debian package if you have the source code.
[12:31] <theadmin> mi3: You can use openbox with all that just fine :)
[12:31] <Dr_willis> mi3,  cairo-dock can make use of compositing. not sure if it will cry if its not there.
[12:31] <Gallomimia> mi3: no lusty wenches?
[12:31] <karthick> I would like to setup  samba server in my office. Which one will be better desktop edition or a server edition of ubuntu?
[12:31] <Dr_willis> Somelauw,  cant say ive ever done it that way. :)
[12:32] <almoxarife> cairo-dock does not need compiz
[12:32] <Dr_willis> Kartagis,  the server edition can work as a samba server.
[12:32] <mi3> update: i use gnome 2.32 [natty, classic with no effects, repeat NO effects :)]
[12:32] <Dr_willis> Kartagis,  unless you want a headless machine for some reason. and never ever want to have a desktop on it.
[12:32] <theadmin> mi3: My suggestion for a perfect de is openbox + launchy + lxpanel + nitrogen + pcmanfm + xcompmgr (optional) + obkey + obconf.
[12:33]  * theadmin doesn't need anything more xD
[12:33] <ruslan> yo
[12:33] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife:
[12:33] <ruslan> [xaxaxaxa
[12:33] <Dr_willis> jwm+rox-filer  :P
[12:33] <ruslan> yxaxax
[12:33] <ruslan> fuck all
[12:33] <Gallomimia> um
[12:33] <ruslan> нигерыыы
[12:33] <Gallomimia> are you okay?
[12:33] <ruslan> ахахахахаа
[12:33] <Somelauw> Why can't ubuntu just ignore third party packages when upgrading?
[12:33] <FloodBot1> ruslan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:33] <ruslan> ахахахаха
[12:33] <Gallomimia> did you skip your medication?
[12:33] <mi3> thats a long list[and being new to ubuntu[which i am trying since a year] dont know most of them]
[12:33] <Dr_willis> Somelauw,  some coule have the same name/replace packages in the default repos.
[12:34] <mi3> what the hell man whose flooding?
[12:34] <Gallomimia> he's just spamming random junk into the channel
[12:34] <mi3> I saw ruslan in the movies now he's a reality in this channel man!
[12:34] <piyush> in normal mode system reboots and under single user mode it says :sulogin : cannot open password datavase
[12:34] <mi3> :) hahahaha
[12:34] <pangolin> it's over. move on please
[12:34] <theadmin> mi3: openbox = window manager, launchy = simple app launcher, lxpanel = a panel, nitrogen = wallpaper changer, pcmanfm = filemanager, xcompmgr = compositing manager, obkey = key shortcut configuration tool, obconf = openbox configuration tool
[12:34] <karthick> Dr_willis: is it possible to have gui on a server edition?
[12:35] <zane> karthick: ofcourse but why would you want to
[12:35] <Gallomimia> from movies to channels? kinda like so many holywood big names
[12:35] <Dr_willis> Kartagis,  it basically would be a desktop edition then. :) theres a few defaults that may be differnt.
[12:35] <eQuiNoX__> given a device file how does one go about finding the driver used to interface to it?
[12:35] <mi3> Gallomimia: hehe
[12:35] <whiiduip> Hi, what happens if i delete ubuntu installation partition?
[12:35] <benhelps>   Zane hehe
[12:36] <Somelauw> Can someone answer the following question:
[12:36] <karthick> zane: i need to have a server with gui?
[12:36] <ajnabicancer__> almoxarife:
[12:36] <zane> benhelps: i love the console myself
[12:36] <Gallomimia> whiiduip then you use a different install, or reinstall that one
[12:36] <Somelauw> Is everything I installed using sudo make deb considered a third-party package that prevents me from updating or should I just uninstall everything that comes from a ppa?
[12:36] <whiiduip> Gallomimia, i arleady have win7
[12:36] <zane> karthick: 'info coreutils'
[12:36] <whiiduip> but will it affect me?
[12:36] <Kartagis> Dr_willis: I'm pretty sure you meant karthick
[12:36] <benhelps> Zane yeah me too, and given my "server" runs on a 4gb mem stick
[12:36] <Gallomimia> yes. you won't have any space on that part of your drive
[12:36] <whiiduip> can i format it safely?
[12:36] <Dr_willis> Somelauw,  i wouldent think that would be counted as a ppa.
[12:36] <mi3> theadmin: thanks for the details, will check them out on google...
[12:36] <piyush> @whiiduip: you wont be able to access rest of OS
[12:36] <zane> whiiduip: if you installed from a cd/usb you wont be able to boot windows7
[12:36] <Dr_willis> Somelauw,  i do belive the various tools would count it as a 3rd party.
[12:37] <whiiduip> why zane?
[12:37] <Gallomimia> Somelauw: that's the same thing you asked 5 minutes ago but didn't reply when people asked you for clarification
[12:37] <Somelauw> Dr_willis: But I disabled all ppa
[12:37] <whiiduip> then what shall i do?
[12:37] <karthick> zane: What ?
[12:37] <whiiduip> I installed win 7 over it
[12:37] <Gallomimia> you want no ubuntu installed?
[12:37] <zane> whiiduip: oh then your good
[12:37] <Dr_willis> disable, then use ppa-purge, perhaps. and remove whatever extra debs you installed.
[12:37] <whiiduip> i want lubuntu
[12:37] <whiiduip> ubuntu is too slow
[12:37] <Somelauw> Dr_willis: Only on the ppa's?
[12:37] <zane> whiiduip: if you installed win7 over it your fine to delete the partition
[12:38] <whiiduip> zane, but i did this once the same
[12:38] <Gallomimia> oh. yeah. check whatever partition tools exist in the world of windows and sort out your partitions
[12:38] <Dr_willis> Somelauw,  id disable them ALL if you want to maxamize your upgrade chances..
[12:38] <whiiduip> and i had to reinstall ubuntu
[12:38] <whiiduip> and then reinstall win 7
[12:38] <whiiduip> are you totally sure?
[12:38] <whiiduip> i have win 7 boot mgr
[12:38] <whiiduip> not grub
[12:38] <FloodBot1> whiiduip: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:38] <Gallomimia> maybe a problem with your MBR
[12:38] <zane> whiiduip: omg, what are you trying to accomplish
[12:38] <zane> LOL
[12:38] <Dr_willis> Somelauw,  upgradeing can be problematic. i tend to do clena installs whenever possible.
[12:38] <Gallomimia> heh
[12:38] <zane> !pastebin
[12:38] <Gallomimia> he didn't paste bomb. he just talked normally
[12:38] <Gallomimia> throttle your bot
[12:38] <zane> lol i know
[12:39] <zane> no my bot
[12:39] <Dr_willis> !enter
[12:39] <zane> !ubottu flooding
[12:39] <Somelauw> Dr_willis: Then is there a way to keep /home?
[12:39] <Gallomimia> that's a better response there
[12:39] <ikonia> zane: id you don't know how to use the bot - please don't.
[12:39] <Gallomimia> Somelauw: sure. don't delete the partition
[12:39] <Dr_willis> Somelauw,  my /home/ is on its own partion/hard drive. :) so i always keep my /home/
[12:39] <Gallomimia> or back up the directory on another drive
[12:39] <Somelauw> I would like to see a list of third-packages I need to uninstall, because I don't remember them by heart.
[12:40] <Dr_willis> Somelauw,  i think the synaptic package manager tool can show a list of them.
[12:40] <zane> ikonia: id?
[12:40] <theadmin> Somelauw: If you already removed all the PPAs, the computer janitor will remove third-party packages for you
[12:40] <Somelauw> theadmin: I just unchecked them in software-centre
[12:40] <Dr_willis> I recall 'computer-janitor' being a bit over-zelous in what it likes to clean out. :)
[12:40] <mi3> theadmin: I have 18 repeat 18 flv files [file size around 770MB] and they all are parts of a movie, so  i tried to join them by mencoder, and the file size became 2.6 gb! need suggestions! also the overall timing of the movie was 1hours 30 min and it became 3 hours, so something must have gone wrong, can you suggest some good alternative
[12:41] <Somelauw> theadmin: Okay, I will try
[12:41] <theadmin> mi3: Try something like pitivi or openshot or whatever lol
[12:41] <mi3> are they both cli and gui? theadmin?
[12:41] <Somelauw> Okay, that is certainly a lot.
[12:41] <theadmin> mi3: They're video editors, so GUI
[12:42] <Dr_willis> convert from flv to  somthing else, then try to join them perhaps.
[12:42] <Myrtti> whiiduip: please try to keep your questions and comments in one line instead of hitting enter for comma
[12:42] <mi3> totally? or even support cli?
[12:42] <zenon> you guys are awesome! =)
[12:42] <Dr_willis> mencoder, and ffmpeg can both  join them but you may need to play with the various options mi3
[12:42] <mi3> thanks zenon appreciated
[12:42] <theadmin> mi3: No CLI support in them. Again, they're video editors. I don't know how to honestly do it over CLI.
[12:42] <mi3> ok theadmin thanks
[12:43] <mi3> thanks a lot
[12:43] <theadmin> Bah, placement... "I honestly don't know how to do it over CLI" < there
[12:43] <Dr_willis> shouldent 18x770mb = be a lot more then  2.6gb ?
[12:43] <mi3> i will preview openbox as well
[12:43] <mi3> hehe
[12:43] <zane> mi3: have you tried 'mplayer'
[12:43] <theadmin> Dr_willis: (s)he meant the overall size of all the 18 files
[12:43] <mi3> yeah
[12:43] <zane> mi3: cmus is awesome
[12:44] <mi3> every file size is different Dr_willis the combined file size of all parts is 770 mb[approx]
[12:44] <mi3> zane, whats cmus?
[12:44] <Dr_willis> You could do it via vlc also i imagine. :) it can play/stream to a differnt file.
[12:44] <zane> mi3: sudo apt-get install cmus !
[12:45] <zane> mi3: then man cmus
[12:45] <mi3> what is cmus? i dont install anything that i dont know of zane
[12:45] <Dr_willis> !info cmus
[12:45] <Gallomimia> mi3	sounds to me that you got codecs flipturned around
[12:45] <Dr_willis> 'its all about the codecs' :)
[12:46] <mi3> brb guys brb
[12:46] <Gallomimia> odd that joining them has resulted in a loss of compression, if that's the case
[12:47] <Dr_willis> i wonder if arista, or avidemux have 'join all in the playlist into a single file' feature...
[12:47] <Dr_willis> I have a few videos that are in 2+ parts i need to join. someday. but i normally just let vlc play them via its playlist so its not a big deal
[12:48] <Saqks> Hello all
[12:49] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarif:
[12:49] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife:
[12:49] <amiacara> Is there anyway to access ubuntu partition on my windows?
[12:50] <theadmin> amiacara: There's ext2read (possibly the safest way)
[12:50] <ikonia> amiacara: not safley, no
[12:50] <amiacara> thanks theadmin
[12:51] <theadmin> amiacara: Still better be careful with it
[12:51] <Dr_willis> it suggest using those tools in 'read only' mode and have windows unmount them. befor you exit windows.
[12:51] <jrib> Dr_willis: avimerge, mencoder, ffmpeg are the usual tools
[12:51] <Dr_willis> I have had thsose tools under windows trash data on the linux side.
[12:51] <amiacara> theadmin, what could even happen? I want to copy intel and then remove ubuntu
[12:52] <Dr_willis> jrib,  can avimerge do flv directly? would you have to go flv -> mp4 -> avimerge
[12:52] <Dr_willis> amiacara, may be safer to use a live cd - if the ubuntu side is broken.
[12:53] <pilz> Dr_willis: I'd use mkvmerge
[12:53] <Dr_willis> pilz,  but if they are flv to begin with.. will that do  the converting, then merge.. or will a middle-step still be needed?
[12:53] <starn> how do i make speakers stop playing when my headphones are plugged in?
[12:54] <Somelauw> Computer janitor says: System clean up could not complete. Be sure no other package manager such as Synaptic or Update Manager is running.
[12:54] <Somelauw> But no other package manager is running.
[12:54] <sharpspear> whats the command for see what maps there is in a specific folders?
[12:54] <sharpspear>  for some reason "cd /Home/Documents/ doesnt work" says there aint no such file or directory
[12:55] <Somelauw> Since there is no key in tray that says someone with root access is busy.
[12:55] <cancer> almoxarife:
[12:55] <jrib> sharpspear: linux is case-sensitive ("home", not "Home")
[12:55] <Dr_willis> sharpspear,  Linux IS CaSe SenSeTiVe
[12:55] <kalim0j0> is there a way to mount an iso file to see whats in it before burning it to disk ?
[12:55] <Dr_willis> !iso
[12:55] <pilz> Dr_willis: flv is just a container, as are avi and mkv. Except flv and avi can't contain all codecs. mkvmerge will just get the video out of one container and put it in another, like zip or tar.
[12:56] <aLeSD> how can I trasparency on the unuty topbar ?
[12:56] <NyLes> hi, i just want to know if i can just use a kernel coming from kernel site?
[12:57] <ikonia> NyLes: why would you do that ?
[12:57] <kalim0j0> dr_willis why did you put a ! before iso ?
[12:57] <kalim0j0> !iso
[12:57] <Dr_willis> kalim0j0,  its a bot trigger...
[12:57] <NyLes> ikonia: cause i think the source of my sound card problem is the kernel?
[12:57] <ikonia> NyLes: why do you think that ?
[12:57] <sharpspear> jrib: tried both ofc, it still says the same
[12:58] <jrib> sharpspear: likely because you mean to put /home/username/Documents
[12:58] <Somelauw> Computer janitor just doesn't work.
[12:58] <NyLes> ikonia: because sound card works fine with puppy linux? specifically Lucid Puppy which is Ubuntu-based..
[12:58] <ikonia> NyLes: ok - so again, why do you think it's a kernel problem ?
[12:59] <sharpspear> jrib: aaaa. didnt have a clue that username had to go between. very fresh in linux, tyvm
[13:00] <jrib> sharpspear: ~ will expand to your user's home, so you could just do "~/Documents"
[13:00] <NyLes> ikonia: i just thought of it because i can't see any difference with puppy linux and ubuntu.. and as i am reading things they say drivers are inside the kernel.. so i thought the process of compiling the kernel between puppy and ubuntu are so much different..
[13:00] <amiacara> are there any grub usb?
[13:00] <amiacara> wich scans for all partition
[13:00] <ikonia> NyLes what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[13:00] <amiacara> in order to find bootable one?
[13:00] <amiacara> or let's you choose?
[13:00] <amiacara> please?
[13:00] <FloodBot1> amiacara: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:00] <rumpe1> amiacara, supergrubdisk/recatux
[13:00] <kalim0j0> i get error "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[13:00] <rumpe1> amiacara, rescatux
[13:01] <NyLes> ikonia: i've tried all the stable version already with same result.. aplay -l no soundcards found..
[13:01] <Dr_willis> kalim0j0,  normally it would be -t is09660 or -t udf
[13:01] <ikonia> NyLes: just aplay or no sound card at all ?
[13:01] <sharpspear> jrib: all right, tyvm again :)
[13:02] <NyLes> ikonia: just aplay -l.. i posted already at ubuntu forum but no one seems interested or know the root of my problem, wanna see the result of alsa script?
[13:02] <mobhero> hi
[13:02] <ikonia> NyLes right, so think it through, you have a working sound card, just not working with aplay......
[13:02] <ikonia> NyLes: is it likley to be a kernel problem, or an aplay problem ?
[13:03] <mobhero> mmmob
[13:04] <tziOm> I cant manage to get wpa_supplicant working the way I want it.. when I change network, dhclient is not rerun. My interfaces has: iface wlan0 inet dhcp\nwpa-driver wext\nwpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[13:04] <tziOm> What am I missing?
[13:04] <tziOm> it comes up fine first time, but when switching network, I have to manually trigger new dhcp lease
[13:05] <MarkEd> hey
[13:05] <MarkEd> heellllooo
[13:05] <NyLes> ikonia: here, please analyze this for me, i just shifted to linux and ubuntu was the first linux i tried before puppy.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/857752/
[13:06] <NyLes> ikonia: that's why i don't know if I'm right, I'm just acting with my thoughts ..
[13:06] <ikonia> NyLes: what is there to analize
[13:06] <ajnabicancer> almoxarif
[13:06] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife:
[13:06] <ikonia> NyLes: test your sound card with other applications, does it work/yes no, if the answer is "yes" then your kernel is fine, so if your sound card, the problem is aplay
[13:06] <Dr_willis> puppy can tend to be a rather large pile of patches over bandaids :)  NyLes  id be curios if it worked in the 12.x release if not defainatly file a bug on it.
[13:07] <NyLes> ikonia: it doesn't work.. totally..
[13:07] <Dr_willis> it sounds (pun?) like it may just be an alsa mixer/muted setting.
[13:07] <ikonia> NyLes ok - so when I asked if it was your soundcard not working or just aplay, why did you say "just aplay"
[13:07] <NyLes> Dr_willis: yeah that's my only hope I think..
[13:08] <ikonia> Dr_willis not sure if it's a muted issus as there would still be sound "devices" even if they are muted
[13:08] <Dr_willis> NyLes,  is this a HDMI connection? or normal stero outs?  Ive seen issues where hdmi needed exta work. but normal stero out worked fine.
[13:08] <NyLes> ikonia: because I thought that if the card isn't working with aplay, it means it doesn't work at all.. "Beginner's Thought"
[13:09] <NyLes> Dr_willis: just a normal stereo outs dr..
[13:09] <ikonia> NyLes have you tried the sound card with other applications, eg: playing a CD/DVD,
[13:09] <monsterripper> Hi there, I'm not sure which website I was on , but I saw a website where you could pay for someone to write the code/a feature for you in an open source program like firefox etc   ....  Does anyone know what this website was .. I thnk it was french but I can't remember...
[13:09] <pilz> Where are the settings for the launcher bar on the left? Want to stop it from disappearing.
[13:09] <Dr_willis> pilz,  the ccsm tool, unity plugin has some settings for it. but be carefull with that tool
[13:09] <Dr_willis> !ccsm
[13:10] <ikonia> monsterripper not an ubuntu question, sorry
[13:10] <NyLes> ikonia: yes but still no sound..
[13:10] <alisunjaya> hello?
[13:10] <ikonia> NyLes: ok, have you worked through the ubuntu guides to check/test/setup the sound card
[13:10] <pilz> It's "advanced customization" to make that thing stay there all the time?!
[13:10] <ikonia> !sound | NyLes
[13:10] <alisunjaya> ikonia??
[13:10] <monsterripper> ikonia ... err it is 'cos it involves open source programs used by ubuntu !
[13:10] <amiacara> ubuntu is powerfull, but will it blend?
[13:10]  * XVampireX has seen ubuntu/android in local newspapers today
[13:10] <Dr_willis> pilz,  theres like 4 settings for its hideing features. I alwyas set mine to be 'always show'
[13:11] <ikonia> monsterripper no it's not, asking "how can I pay someone to write an open source application" is not an ubuntu support question
[13:11] <ikonia> alisunjaya: what ?
[13:11] <Dr_willis> pilz,  i think always show - may be the default in the next release
[13:11] <kkj3> Anyone lknow if it's possible to make a copy off all your files and packages?
[13:11] <zenon> almoxafife, sounds like some sorta bad medication
[13:11] <Dr_willis> !clone | kkj3
[13:11] <mi3> Hi!
[13:11] <kkj3> thanks
[13:11] <mi3> I m back
[13:11] <Somelauw> computer janitor is just being stupid, I think
[13:12] <NyLes> ikonia: ok there are 2 new links, i already tried that SoundTroubleshooting but no luck.. I'll try the other 2 thanks..
[13:12] <Somelauw> I will just apt purge everything she says, since she can't do it on her own.
[13:12] <ikonia> NyLes: swapping the kernel blindly is a massive task that shouldn't be done unless you are %101 certain you NEED to do it
[13:12] <Dr_willis> Somelauw,  log out/back in and try it again. or try it from a clean boot. could be some lock file is stuck.
[13:12] <inx-live> hola buenas
[13:13] <MoDDD> hi all
[13:13] <Somelauw> Dr_willis: I already tried the login trick. I will now do the reboot trick.
[13:13] <Dr_willis> Computer Janitor is one of those tools that is getting phased out i belive. its just not well done.
[13:13] <Dr_willis> and it can be a bit dangerous :)
[13:14] <pilz> Dr_willis: thanks, it worked (though I did have to log out)
[13:15] <Dr_willis> pilz,  thats common for many unity setytings/tweaks.
[13:15] <ubuntu-guy> hi
[13:15] <amiacara> ubunutu 11.10 is grub or grub2?
[13:15] <Dr_willis> amiacara,  should be grub2
[13:15] <ikonia> grub2
[13:15] <amiacara> u sure
[13:15] <amiacara> ?
[13:15] <Dr_willis> yes.
[13:15] <mobhero> what is difference grub and grub2
[13:16] <alisunjaya> what is it grub???
[13:16] <Dr_willis> Unless you are upgradeing.. it should use grub2 by default.
[13:16] <Dr_willis> !grub
[13:16] <ubuntu-guy> Still i did not able to configure the ubuntu 11.10 for text mode login prompt
[13:16] <Dr_willis> Grub2 was a total rewrite of grub, with many  improvements.
[13:16] <Dr_willis> !text | ubuntu-guy
[13:16] <ajnabicancer_> almoxarife:
[13:17] <mobhero> what is the difference bw ext3 and ext4
[13:17] <airtonix> 1
[13:18] <airtonix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1110009
[13:18] <airtonix> mobhero: ^
[13:18] <Dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
[13:19] <zenon> I love AI.
[13:19] <NyLes> ikonia: ok thanks again..
[13:19] <broc93> hello everybody!
[13:20] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife:
[13:21] <mobhero> error: YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN : Domain not found in nis ubuntu 10.04 lts pls help on this
[13:21] <ubuntu-guy> Dr_willis, I simply want to edit /etc/default/grub and configure it as text mode so that i get Text mode login prompt then command "startx" to get X interface. I was able to do it for Ubuntu 10.04.
[13:22] <broc93> I have a question: I have installed Xubuntu on the computers of a public place. I don't want any data to be saved on those PCs, so I thought I could use the "guest" mode. I suppose that people who log in as "guest" can't save anything on the hard drive, because their data is deleted after they log out.
[13:22] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=980263 mobhero
[13:22] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-guy,  you edit the /etc/default/grub and replace the 'quiet splash' with 'text' (or  'text noquiet nosplash nofb'
[13:23] <bazhang> broc93, kiosk you mean?
[13:23] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-guy,  then rerun update-grub
[13:23] <broc93> anyway, I want to be able to edit the environment; for example, can I add an application at startup on guest mode?
[13:23] <broc93> bazhang: well, on Xubuntu there is already a "guest" option in the login interface, don't know it it's "kiosk" :D
[13:23] <kalim0j0> dr_willis : yes -t iso9660 worked fine
[13:23] <broc93> if*
[13:24] <kalim0j0> how do i unrar a .rar file
[13:24] <bazhang> broc93, or did you mean a thin client type set up
[13:24] <ubuntu-guy> Dr_willis, I was replaced 'quiet splash' with 'text' but no luck... OK let's try 'text noquiet nosplash nofb'
[13:24] <jrib> kalim0j0: double click on it
[13:24] <alisunjaya> hello??ada orang
[13:24] <tensorpudding> kiosk mode isn't quite the same thing
[13:25] <broc93> bazhang: sorry, but I haven't understood. After installing Xubuntu on those machines, I could log in as "admin" (my account) or as a guest.
[13:25] <bazhang> !id | alisunjaya
[13:25] <tensorpudding> with that, you can't log in, log out, or touch the filesystem at all, it just runs a single program to my understanding
[13:25] <broc93> bazhang: but I want to add a startup program to that "guest mode"
[13:25] <mobhero> bazhang -_: we have already acquainted with that document but no luck.
[13:26] <bazhang> mobhero, you are running a cluster then?
[13:26] <mobhero> bazhnag:-: no
[13:27] <mobhero> just we install nis then getting this error,
[13:27] <bazhang> mobhero, that error seems associated with a cluster
[13:27] <broc93> knock knock, anybody there?
[13:27] <mobhero> but we dont have any cluser bazhang
[13:27] <bazhang> broc93, yes? you wish a thin client?
[13:27] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-guy,  text normally works for me.
[13:28] <Dr_willis> broc93,  i recall seeing some info about the guest user - on the askubuntu.com site. how its used  has changed in recent releases.
[13:29] <Dr_willis> broc93,  there are also system wide 'autostart' features for the Desktops. or per-user auto start features.
[13:29] <zenon> I love you ubottu! =D
[13:29] <mobhero> bazhang ???
[13:30] <bazhang> zenon, lets keep chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:30] <Wex__> @ftw
[13:30] <ajnabicancer> almoxarife:
[13:30] <broc93> Dr_willis: where can I find  those "autostart" features?
[13:30] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-guy,  you are rerunning 'sudo update-grub' after making the changes?
[13:30] <Dr_willis> !autostart
[13:30] <sharpspear> is there any way i can safely remove everything that has to do with java so i know i get a fresh installation next time i do it?
[13:30] <Dr_willis> broc93,  in recent releases the guest user gets a clean /etc/skel on each new login
[13:31] <Dr_willis> broc93,  you may want to check the info at askubuntu.com - i only skimmed it a few weeks ago.
[13:31] <broc93> Dr_willis: yeah, I've done that but I get that program at startup only when I log in with my account, not with the guest one
[13:31] <alisunjaya> dr willis
[13:31] <ubuntu-guy> Dr_willis, Do you get command mode login prompt and startx ? Text works for me too but still i get lightdm GUI  to login
[13:31] <mobhero> bazhang byee..
[13:31] <broc93> ok, I'll look there
[13:31] <ubuntu-guy> Yeah i run update-grub
[13:32] <salmiak> how do I do to have two versions of an application installed at the same time? if I for example want to keep my current version of VLC and not change that, but want to testrun VLC 2.0 anyway?
[13:32] <Somelauw> Whenever I run computer janitor, it generates a new list of packages that should be removed.
[13:32] <ikonia> salmiak: that depends on how the person who packaged it built the package
[13:32] <cancer> almoxarife:
[13:33] <ikonia> salmiak: normally you'd have to find a dev package that didn't conflict with libraries or binary locations already on the system
[13:33] <Somelauw> Also, can I deinstall multiple at once, by doing something like sudo apt-get purge thing-*?
[13:33] <bazhang> cancer, there is no need to keep targeting a single person, ask the channel you r issue
[13:33] <ubuntu-guy> Dr_willis, It should be like     username:         password:         then username@host:startx       does it work for you please?
[13:33] <salmiak> ikonia: aha... so I can't download their normal for-users-.deb, but have to get a special version?
[13:34] <broc93> Dr_willis: is this one? http://askubuntu.com/questions/9515/how-do-i-change-the-guest-session-defaults
[13:35] <ikonia> salmiak pretty much, or it's locations will conflict with what is already on your system/overwrite it
[13:35] <Somelauw> computer janitor is gonna deinstall anything if it keeps generating a new list
[13:36] <ubuntu-guy> broc93, Perhaps try to disable Guest session or?
[13:36] <ubuntu-guy> *ing
[13:37] <Dr_willis> broc93,  all i did was skim the site for someone and gave them a few urls. i dont use the feature.
[13:37] <alisunjaya> ikonia?
[13:37] <Dr_willis> Somelauw,  you mean 'uninstall everything' ?
[13:37] <broc93> ubuntu-guy: why should I disable it? I need it, but I just want to load a program (firefox) at startup, and add an icon to the desktop, if possible
[13:38] <Somelauw> Dr_willis: Oh finally it stopped. It keeped on generating a new list. After about 7 lists, it finally showed an empty list. Maybe this time it is going to work.
[13:38] <Dr_willis> broc93,  in the /etc/skel directory you would add/make the proper directories/shortcuts then.
[13:38] <ubuntu-guy> broc93, Sorry i was thought that you want to disable it.....
[13:38] <ikonia> alisunjaya: what ? why are you saying my name
[13:38] <ciao> cizo
[13:38] <ikonia> alisunjaya: stop saying random peoples names, you have been asked to stop
[13:38] <salmiak> so any normal way to install two normal versions of an application is by install some sort of virtual machine, and run one of them in that??
[13:38] <Dr_willis> broc93,  each time a guest user starts up. they get a clean tempary home thats a copy of that /etc/skel directory i belive
[13:39] <alisunjaya> tak apa2 ora iso//..
[13:39] <theadmin> salmiak: Yeah I guess... But you don't really have to worry about VLC, 2.0 is great
[13:39] <ikonia> alisunjaya: what language do you speak ?
[13:39] <bonhoeffer> any way to have files in list mode in gnome
[13:39] <bazhang> !id | alisunjaya
[13:39] <cancer_> almoxarife:
[13:39] <bazhang> cancer_, stop that
[13:40] <cancer_> bazhang: ok
[13:40] <bazhang> cancer_, stop targeting a single user; ask the channel you r issue
[13:40] <broc93> Dr_willis: yes, it's also written in the answer. Anyway I don't need to add files to the guest home (that would be easy), but I need to add a startup program. How can I do that?
[13:40] <alisunjaya> speak russian
[13:40] <alisunjaya> hahaha
[13:40] <alisunjaya> you
[13:40] <theadmin> !ru | alisunjaya
[13:40] <bazhang> !ru | alisunjaya
[13:40] <ubuntu-guy> Dr_willis, Hope you would not mind telling me if text(Username+password+startx) Login works for you.
[13:40] <geirha> broc93: Untested, but might work: sudo mkdir -p /etc/guest-session/skel/.config/autostart && sudo cp /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop /etc/guest-session/skel/.config/autostart/
[13:40] <ciao> lista
[13:41] <broc93> geirha: ok, I might try that later :)
[13:41] <Dr_willis> broc93,  the  auto started apps are ran from the autostart dir. similer to what geirha  said.
[13:41] <alisunjaya> kontolkk
[13:41] <Somelauw> Okay, it still says I have broken packages, even though computer janitor cleaned almost anything.
[13:41] <bazhang> alisunjaya, ubuntu support question?
[13:41] <Dr_willis> broc93,  any NEWLY made users would get a clone of /etc/skel also which may not be what you want. if geirha is correct that would be only for the guest user.
[13:41] <theadmin> Somelauw: Why not just do a clean install?
[13:42] <die7> any exp with ubuntu on mac mac mini here with iso amd63+mac
[13:42] <die7> *amd64
[13:42] <Somelauw> theadmin: Maybe I should.
[13:42] <broc93> well, Dr_willis I don't need to add other users. Those computer should work as an "internet point", or sort of.
[13:42] <ikonia> I've run it many times without issue
[13:42] <emir> I scaned google.com for 32 bit addresses and now my internet is gone for a moment
[13:42] <ikonia> die7: I've run it with the mac mini core solo version and the current generation without issue
[13:43] <die7> ikonia: mid 2007 core 2 duo
[13:43] <almoxarife> !info xchat
[13:43] <geirha> broc93, Dr_willis: It's based on jo-erlend's answer in the askubuntu link broc93 pasted earlier
[13:43] <ikonia> die7: I'd say that's quite acceptable to use based on my experiences,
[13:44] <die7> ikonia: i have running linux min on it just wish to try efi thing
[13:44] <broc93> ok. geirha, Dr_willis thank you both. I'll try it later ;)
[13:44] <Dr_willis> broc93,  there also seems to be a  /etc/xdg/autostart that would be for ALL users all the time. :) which could be annoying..or very handy.
[13:44] <ciao> addon
[13:44] <theadmin> die7: Mint is not supported in this channel.
[13:44] <die7> ikonia: i see there is a amd64+mac iso
[13:44] <die7> theadmin: roger
[13:44] <ikonia> die7 I would just use the amd version
[13:44] <ikonia> die7: the mac one in my experience is aimed at the macbook pros with the touch pads etc
[13:45] <die7> ikonia: yeeah but bootiny in legacy mode and mbr caused boot time over 1 :30 min
[13:46] <Somelauw> Would I avoid these problems if I had a rolling release distro?
[13:46] <die7> ikonia: also low perfomance with sata since no ihc mode
[13:46] <broc93> geirha: and what about an icon in the desktop?
[13:47] <Oer> Somelauw, i think a rolling release does not fic broken packages, removing ppa's and sudo apt-get install -f does
[13:47] <die7> ikonia: you use gpt with reffit or mbr (msdos) hdd table
[13:47] <geirha> broc93: Put the firefox.desktop file in Desktop/ as well
[13:47] <Somelauw> I'll try sudo apt-get install -f, whatever that means.
[13:48] <Oer> Somelauw, -f = fix
[13:48] <Somelauw> I already tried computer janitor, but I will try that as well.
[13:48] <broc93> geirha: ok, perfect. I thought it was different :D
[13:49] <luigi_> #ubuntu.it
[13:49] <ubuntu-guy> Dr_willis, I should get kicked for my simple fault... Thanks!!!
[13:50] <ikonia> die7: I changed the disk to ms dos partitions as I was only running ubuntu on it
[13:51] <die7> ikonia: and boot time ? my need over 20 sec to switch to legacy mode even if I blees a disk
[13:51] <ikonia> die7: sorry what ?
[13:52] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-guy,  what fault? :)
[13:52] <Ady> can someone tell me how to get into my c dyrectory? pls
[13:52] <Dr_willis> Ady,   you mean your installed windows drive?
[13:52] <bazhang> Ady, no such thing in ubuntu
[13:52] <Dr_willis> Ady,  or what are you refering to?
[13:52] <die7> ikonia: on the start it need 20 sec to swicht to legacy mode (bios emulation) and then start to boot
[13:52] <ubuntu-guy> Dr_willis, The fault is "#"
[13:52] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-guy,  you had somthing commented out? :)
[13:52] <ikonia> die7 I never saw it taking 20 seconds before it even started to boot
[13:53] <Ady> i mean some c:/ ... or sompthink
[13:53] <cancer> almoxarife /msg
[13:53] <Dr_willis> Ady,  windows uses c: nameing schemes for their disks.. so again.. you are wanting to access your pre-existing windows drives?
[13:53] <ubuntu-guy> Dr_willis, yeah and i did not see it for 24 hours(Perhaps i was blind and asked here too many questions)
[13:53] <Ady> Dr_willis, yes
[13:54] <Dr_willis> Ady,  use the file maanger. it should show up in thelist on the left hand side.
[13:54] <Dr_willis> Ady,  or mount it where you want.
[13:54] <Dr_willis> !windows
[13:54] <die7> ikonia: that's my examp so i wish to try ubuntu with efi support
[13:54] <auronandace> Ady: see what is under /media/
[13:54] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[13:54] <ikonia> die7 ok, try it
[13:55] <Dr_willis> actually it should be a big icon in the unity left side launcher also shouldentit?
[13:55] <die7> ikonia: tnx bro will see if there some improvement will blog it
[13:56] <die7> ikonia: how long your is your boot time or switch to boot process
[13:56] <zenon> thank you all for info.
[13:57] <ikonia> die7 I don't have a mac mini running ubuntu at the moment, but the core solo one was pretty much an instantanious boot with approx - 10, 15 seconds from start of boot to desktop,
[13:57] <ikonia> die7: although I don't see boot time as a massive factor, I don't feel it's an important factor in a static device, the difference between 10 seconds and 15 seconds wait for boot when you are going to use it for 2 hours seems a pointless chase
[13:59] <die7> ikonia: woow nice time , sure your point is correct in may case is just wish to try efi
[14:00] <ikonia> die7 1.) efi is not a performance booster, its a flexability enchancment 2.) you're chasing a pointless ghost, if boot time is important to you tune the OS post install or by an SSD, best of luck
[14:01] <die7> ikonia: yepp correct ssd is next step, thx and out
[14:04] <JuJuBee> I have some videos I took with a helmet cam (GoPro Hero2) and they are mp4. What is a good program to convert them for facebook?
[14:04] <sw0rdfish> what is the network "Loopback Interface lo" for?
[14:05] <mijenix> hi
[14:06] <mijenix> does ubuntu provide the virtualbox guest additions or do I have to install the additions which come with virtualbox
[14:06] <Ady> Please enter MySQL binaries directory (no trailing slash):
[14:06] <Ady>  can someone tell me what to enter here?
[14:06] <Dr_willis> Ady,  what is asking that?
[14:06] <ikonia> Ady: what are you doing ?
[14:07] <Ady> i make l2j server
[14:07] <zane> can someone help me get my sound working. i installed ubuntu base with no X no gui. i just install 'alsa' but still no sound
[14:07] <Ady> i want to install database installer
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> zane  type alsamixer, see if you find something disturbing
[14:09] <zane> MonkeyDust: nothing unusual, i can adjust the levels
[14:10] <MindSpark> ok, I played around with the packages and now I do not see a battery sensor applet in the panel
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> zane  no MM? if yes, go there and press M
[14:10] <MindSpark> can someone tell me what package that is in?for unity
[14:11] <zane> MonkeyDust: LOL yes there was MM, i'm such a noob
[14:11] <zane> it works now
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> we're here to learn :)
[14:13] <grobda24> What can actually play DVD's with working menu's ?
[14:13] <zane> MonkeyDust: i get an error in cmus though???
[14:13] <bazhang> grobda24, vlc, mplayer to name two
[14:14] <grobda24> bazhang, tried those. They don't do the menu's properly
[14:14] <zane> MonkeyDust: could it be permissions related?
[14:14] <auronandace> !dvd | grobda24
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> Ady  i'm not familiar with cmus
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> zane  "
[14:14] <bazhang> grobda24, what do you mean properly. they work 100% fine here
[14:15] <grobda24> auronandace, thanks, already done all that
[14:15] <zane> MonkeyDust: " ???
[14:15] <Ady> i need to tipe in mysql path i think
[14:15] <grobda24> bazhang, that's interesting. So you have all menu options and perfectly looping background video ?
[14:15] <Ady> MonkeyDust, how to find rote to mysql files?
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> zane  i'm not familiar with cmus
[14:15] <bazhang> grobda24, correct
[14:16] <grobda24> bazhang, what versions are you using ?
[14:16] <bazhang> grobda24, whatver version is current on 11.04
[14:16] <theadmin> grobda24: DVD menus work fine for me with VLC 2.0 (not in the official repos yet, watch out for that!)
[14:16] <grobda24> bazhang, that's oneiric ?
[14:17] <theadmin> grobda24: 11.04 is natty
[14:17] <bazhang> grobda24, I have no 3d effects going on here, if that is an issue.
[14:18] <theadmin> grobda24: Hm, actually, DVD menus work fine in older versions of VLC too (not sure about any other players)
[14:20] <pyboy> hello
[14:20] <grobda24> theadmin, ah, could be that my cpu is too slow on this machine
[14:20]  * grobda24 goes to try playing on his quadcore super dooper machine
[14:20] <theadmin> grobda24: I don't see how that'd affect it actually.
[14:21] <Ady> can someone tell me the route for mysql ? i installed xampp earlyer
[14:21] <Zeratul> alguem poderia me ajudar a instalar o modem gobi 2000 3g no ubuntu 10.10. amd64
[14:21] <bazhang> Ady, xampp is not supported here
[14:21] <theadmin> !br | Zeratul
[14:21] <bazhang> !xampp | Ady
[14:21] <bazhang> !lamp > Ady
[14:27] <Zeratul> could someone help me install the modem gobi2000 3g to ubuntu 10.10 amd64
[14:28] <auronandace> !modem | Zeratul
[14:28] <pyboy> why is there bots logging chats
[14:28] <Dr_willis> pyboy,  so people can search the logs... and find answers
[14:28] <pyboy> thanks
[14:28] <Ignisss> Guys ive got a clean ubuntu 10.04lts install on a pc with a mainboard with the ck804 audio chip but ive got no audio at all, ive followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting but it still doesnt work, anyone has any idea? Ive also made a post here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/188890 in wich the results of aplay -l and lspci are posted
[14:28] <MindSpark> anyone?
[14:29] <MindSpark> I am not getting any battery applet in the panel
[14:29] <theadmin> auronandace: Wrong factoid... 3G isn't exactly a regular modem xD
[14:29] <Somelauw> Well, sudo apt-get install -f does nothing.
[14:29] <theadmin> Zeratul: You might need usb_modeswitch. Actually, first go to the Mobile Broadband tab of networkmanager and try creating a connection
[14:29] <auronandace> theadmin: one of those usb modems then?
[14:29] <theadmin> auronandace: Yeah those things
[14:29] <Zeratul> not the problem and connects it does not recognize the modem in network manager
[14:29] <Somelauw> I'm gonna reboot and try again. I don't do a clean install because I think that takes even more time.
[14:30] <Dr_willis> clean install = 20 min here perhaps...
[14:30] <Dr_willis> less time then what you have been spending in here.
[14:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:30] <epistax> I moved my PC from one part of the room to another, and now X doesn't work! Compiz segfaults on startup (dmesg). I get the Ubuntu loading screen, and login screen. Then I get an error about not being able to apply the stored configuration for monitors. xrandr reports "Can't open display". The only thing I can think that could have changed is the port my monitor is plugged in to, so I tried switching and rebooting to no avail. Any id
[14:30] <phaidros> ehlo, just to be sure: with disc encryption I need at least an unencrypted /boot, right?
[14:30] <Zeratul> not use kde but gnome
[14:31] <Dr_willis> epistax,  could be you knocked a card loose also.
[14:31] <epistax> Dr_willis: Good point, I will check that. My terminal sessions are working over the monitor though.
[14:32] <Dr_willis> also ive seen pc's need to have the moniotr plugged in/powered on when the system boots.. but that may been a quirky box i had.
[14:32] <Zeratul> already created the connection but it does not recognize the modem but if I install the modem in the usb it recognizes no problem
[14:33] <epistax> Dr_willis: Everything is locked and loaded
[14:34] <totospider> buongiorno
[14:34] <totospider> list
[14:34] <ikonia> totospider: don't
[14:34] <ikonia> !list > totospider
[14:35] <ikonia> !it > totospider
[14:35] <blink> hey
[14:35] <totospider> hello
[14:35] <blink> do you guys do linux help?
[14:35] <ikonia> totospider: hi
[14:35] <ikonia> totospider: please see the private messages from the user ubottu
[14:35] <ikonia> blink: ubuntu support, yes
[14:35] <blink> hurray
[14:35] <totospider> addon
[14:36] <blink> i am having a lot of trouble with a particular machine
[14:36] <Zeratul> then someone with some idea of ​​how to operate
[14:36] <totospider> !addon
[14:36] <ikonia> totospider: stop
[14:36] <ikonia> totospider: READ the messages ubottu has sent you in the private message window
[14:36] <totospider> lista
[14:36] <blink> so. i have just installed ubuntu minimal, but it won't boot, and i don't know where to start troubleshooting
[14:37] <Zeratul> it was for me?
[14:37] <ikonia> blink: why have you done a minimial install if you have no idea how to setup it up and trouble shoot it?
[14:37] <ikonia> blink: why not just do a desktop install ?
[14:37] <epistax> How do I tell X to rediscover attached monitors?
[14:38] <blink> i don't want a desktop environment.
[14:38] <ikonia> blink: then remove the desktop environment
[14:38] <ikonia> blink: or disable it
[14:38] <blink> so, i am able to mount /dev/sda1 (this is where i installed the root of hte filesystem)
[14:39] <ikonia> blink: great, now what ?
[14:39] <blink> it seems to be there.
[14:39] <blink> i have also tried reinstalling grub
[14:39] <auronandace> !lamp | Ady
[14:39] <ikonia> blink: no, there are "things" on the file system
[14:39] <ikonia> blink: doesn't mean you've installed what you need
[14:39] <ikonia> blink: just use a desktop install and remove/disable X/gnome/whatever you want
[14:40] <blink> i have successfully installed the minimal iso in the past
[14:40] <Zeratul> then something about how to install the modem
[14:40] <ikonia> blink: ok, then you should have no problems
[14:40] <blink> can we get past my motivation and intent and address the problem?
[14:40] <Somelauw> Nope, it still gives the same error message.
[14:41] <Somelauw> I think I have no other option than downloading an iso of the newest ubuntu.
[14:41] <Somelauw> I think that is ubuntu 11.10.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: 11.10 is the latest stable
[14:42] <Somelauw> Or I can go for 12.4 so I don't have to update in 2 months.
[14:42] <f0xxxx> i have a problem on an alienware m18x ubuntu 11.10
[14:42] <Zeratul> my ubuntu 10.10. amd64  not recognize the modem gobi 2000
[14:42] <f0xxxx> if i remove the charger and hook it back in the computer refuses to charge
[14:42] <auronandace> Somelauw: i'd wait till its released
[14:42] <f0xxxx> i have to shut i down and start it again
[14:42] <epistax> It's probably not helping my issue that my monitor is VGA...
[14:42] <f0xxxx> and it's a linux issue because on windows works
[14:43] <ikonia> f0xxxx: what makes think it's not charging ?
[14:43] <theadmin> Need a reboot, brb.
[14:44] <f0xxxx> after i remove the charger and connect it back
[14:44] <f0xxxx> it says on battery applet
[14:44] <f0xxxx> on battery
[14:44] <f0xxxx> and discharging
[14:44] <FloodBot1> f0xxxx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:44] <f0xxxx> and if i wait till it all consumed the laptop shuts down
[14:44] <Zeratul> If I install another modem so that it recognizes the usb and connects no problem but not the own the lenovo T410 model 2225
[14:44] <ikonia> f0xxxx ok, that may be a bug, have you actually waited and see if the battery does drain ?
[14:45] <bawlawl> hi everyone, I want to install Ubuntu on a USB stick, but I'm wondering if it will work consistently across multiple systems (right now when I start up a live environment on my system it just werks on a lot of PC's)
[14:46] <f0xxxx> battery is fine
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Zeratul: is it detected in an Oneiric liveCD (Maveric is EOL in April)
[14:46] <f0xxxx> i also orderd a new charger because i thought theres something wrong with it
[14:46] <f0xxxx> but on windows works it's a linux issue
[14:46] <ikonia> f0xxxx sorry, I meant if you unplug/repluig and sit and wait, does the laptop actually run out of power
[14:46] <f0xxxx> ikonia, yes
[14:47] <ikonia> f0xxxx: ok, then I think you'll need to log a bug on launchpad as it will be a hardware bug against your laptop's power managent/apci functionality
[14:47] <Zeratul> but do not want to install another version to version 10:10 Love fast but simple and very customizable
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Zeratul: tried Xubuntu?
[14:48] <bawlawl> !usb
[14:48] <bawlawl> !to_usb
[14:49] <bawlawl> !not_from_usb_just_to_please
[14:49] <ikonia> bawlawl: please stop
[14:49] <Somelauw> I give up trying to update this.
[14:49] <ikonia> bawlawl: if you don't know how to use the bot, don't. Just ask
[14:49] <Somelauw> It just can't be done if it doesn't give more descriptive error messages.
[14:49] <JDiogoR> using ubuntu and choose when start "session xubuntu" is the same thing that using xubuntu??
[14:49] <bawlawl> ikonia: But I did, I'm sorry I've tried searching on wiki but it only covers installation from USB stick.
[14:50] <ikonia> bawlawl: ok then don't just hit the bot with random words
[14:50] <MindSpark> can someone tell me what to do to get the battery indicator running again?
[14:50] <MindSpark> I reinstalled indicator-power, nothing happened
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> JDiogoR: essentially, yes
[14:50] <yeats> JDiogoR: yes, essentially
[14:50] <yeats> heh
[14:50] <JDiogoR> thanks ;)
[14:50] <Zeratul> damn expensive to install another version so because the modem and something to think about because it was not able to run the modem if necessary with another version so I will not move anymore.
[14:50] <bawlawl> ikonia: all right, but could you please direct me towards a helpful resource which I can read?
[14:50] <ikonia> bawlawl: about what ?
[14:51] <yeats> JDiogoR: it won't be exactly the same as it would be if you installed xubuntu from scratch because it has all the standard GNOME programs installed
[14:51] <bawlawl> ikonia: I want to install Ubuntu on a USB stick, but I don't know if it will work across PC's (compatibly), because as of now when I start up the live environment it all just werks.
[14:51] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent bawlawl this is "to usb"
[14:51] <bawlawl> *live environment from USB stick
[14:51] <Somelauw> Or maybe i should report this as a bug.
[14:52] <ikonia> bawlawl if your PC's all have non-propritary linux supported hardware only, then it will work fine
[14:52] <DkrTremos> morning
[14:52] <bawlawl> thanks bazhang
[14:52] <ikonia> bawlawl: if your PC has any deviation from that, then it will need configuring for each host at some level
[14:52] <Zeratul> I have not downloaded the normal version of ubuntu even the 64 version and I will not so wonderful all running the modem
[14:52] <bazhang> bawlawl, that persistent, not live
[14:52] <bawlawl> bazhang: exactly what I need :)
[14:53] <manoj> how can i use web cam for chat
[14:53] <manoj> which software support webcam
[14:53] <Dr_willis> !im
[14:53] <Dr_willis> mandje,  what is the person you are wanting to chat to using?
[14:53] <bawlawl> ikonia: though that's what I'm wondering, wouldn't the install have to be configured across different hardware architectures? I know that the liveCD just autodetects and autoconfigures the environment
[14:54] <bawlawl> but I have no idea how it will be once it's installed :|
[14:54] <manoj> i instaled both but i cant use wecam there is no icon showing for web cma on \
[14:54] <bazhang> manoj, using which chat service
[14:54] <ikonia> bawlawl if the hardware has no propritary devices and has full linux supported devices, you will have no issues as the kernel is modular, if you have anything outside that, you will have to configure for that host
[14:55] <manoj> i am using msn and yahoo
[14:55] <manoj> now installed empathy but ther is no intication for webcam
[14:56] <Zeratul> a modem and my output? some driver work?
[14:57] <bawlawl> ikonia: sadly the amounts proprietary devices (such as GPU's) are vast across a lot of PC's, but still Ubuntu detected my nVidia GTX 260m and showed without any problem (it even offered me drivers), but that was the live environment, so you're saying I should configure on anything else (for example if the PC has an ATi card instead of an nVidia)?
[14:58] <ikonia> bawlawl in that situation I think you'll have a lot of problems
[14:58] <Dr_willis> bawlawl,  you are using a live-usb across differnt pcs? or a full install to a usb across differnt pcs?
[14:58] <Somelauw> Could this be a problem? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/557000 If yes, then how to solve it?
[14:58] <bawlawl> Dr_willis: as of now I have used live-usb, but thinking about using a full install for persistence purposes
[14:59] <epistax> How to a completely kill X so it doesn't just respawn? I'm trying to run X -configure but I can't get X to stay dead
[15:00] <Dr_willis> bawlawl,  using a full install and changfeing pc's/video hardware can be problmatic. I move a usb from an nvidia to an ati box. often. basically i just use the GPL ati drivers because  and keep the nvidia one installed. I sometimes need to move/rename the nvidia or ati sprcific xorg.conf for them to work totally correct
[15:00] <Dr_willis> bawlawl,  using a live-usb+persistant file can be even more hassles.
[15:00] <bawlawl> epistax: have you tried going into a runlevel which doesn't have X?
[15:00] <Dr_willis> epistax,  sudo service lightdm stop
[15:00] <Dr_willis> ubuntu dosent really use runlevles like other disrtos do
[15:00] <theadmin> bawlawl: Ubuntu doesn't have runlevels
[15:01] <Dr_willis> I thought X -configure was depreciated also.
[15:01] <bawlawl> oh
[15:01] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[15:01] <epistax> Dr_willis: Thanks. Everything I found was telling me to stop gdm, which was not the right answer.
[15:01] <Dr_willis> epistax,  it would be for the older reelases.
[15:01] <theadmin> epistax: gdm was used up to Oneiric
[15:02] <Dr_willis> gdm-> gdm2 -> lightdm  :)
[15:02] <bawlawl> why doesn't Ubuntu have runlevels actually?
[15:02] <Dr_willis> !runlevels
[15:02] <theadmin> bawlawl: Upstart
[15:02] <epistax> Thanks guys. configure failed anyway. I'll try your link. I'm trying to convince X that my VGA monitor supports 1280x1024.
[15:02] <bawlawl> hmm I see
[15:02] <bawlawl> thanks
[15:02] <Dr_willis> epistax,  there used to be a xmode generator web site - i used years and years ago. :)
[15:04] <tyler-riddle> how can i enable my headphones on ubuntu? the speakers work fine, but my headphones don't. i am using 11.10 64 bit
[15:05] <epistax> Arg this is so annoying. I want it to just revert all monitor settings to default. Every time I start X it tells me about all the resolutions it tried and failed to set. Odd resolutions with odd refresh rates (52 Hz!)
[15:05] <codebanshee> tyler-riddle: are your headphones plugged into a different output socket? If so, you may need to change the Connector setting under Output in Sound Preferences
[15:06] <djskidd> Hi all
[15:06] <djskidd> I need help syncing Ubuntu with my phone
[15:06] <epistax> Thanks X. I was curious if my monitor supported 680x384@55Hz. Now I can rest easy with the reminder that no, it does not, every time I boot up.
[15:07] <djskidd> My phone is a KIN TWOm, and I'd like to be able to sync over my music.
[15:08] <djskidd> It's Zube-based, if that makes a difference.
[15:08] <djskidd> *Zune
[15:09] <djskidd> Anyone?
[15:10] <pyboy> djskidd i dont know try ubuntu one i think its only for smartphones
[15:11] <djskidd> As in the smartphone app UBuntu One?
[15:11] <djskidd> The KIN doesn
[15:11] <djskidd> t
[15:11] <djskidd> hace an appstore
[15:11] <djskidd> if I can type
[15:11] <jan_> hello
[15:11] <djskidd> hi jan_
[15:12] <jan_> hi
[15:12] <djskidd> hi
[15:14] <epistax> I tried adding a Monitor section to xorg to tell X that the monitor supports 1280x1024, but that doesn't seem to have an effect
[15:14] <Amoz> epistax, afaik you should be able to just remove Xorg.conf
[15:15] <Amoz> epistax, and it will "autoconf" it ootb
[15:15] <epistax> Amoz: It's a VGA monitor that doesn't report what it can and can't too..
[15:15] <epistax> do..
[15:15] <Amoz> epistax, ah, so you can
[15:15] <epistax> Auto configuration gives me a fuzzy 1024x768
[15:16] <jocker69> hi all
[15:16] <Amoz> *you can't see it in the display config? the graphical utility?
[15:17] <epistax> Amoz: I can "see" it. It's reported as an Unknown monitor with two valid resolutions: 1024x768 and 800x600
[15:20] <salmiak> where can I find VLC 2.0 for ubuntu10.04 ? I can't find any ppa that have it
[15:21] <Dr_willis> salmiak,  the webupd8 site had guides on nstalling it in ubuntu -  i dont use 10.04 so no idea on anythign else
[15:22] <salmiak> ok I go see that www.webupd8.org webpage
[15:25]  * tommylommykins waves
[15:25] <epistax> No ideas on what the "new" way is to force a resolution? The stuff I'm finding through google is about editing xorg.conf
[15:25]  * tommylommykins is on 11.04
[15:25] <tommylommykins> should I run an in place upgrade to get 12.04,
[15:25]  * ikonia wishes tommylommykins would ask a question rather than doing /me commands or emoted
[15:25] <tommylommykins> or install it anew?
[15:25] <ikonia> tommylommykins 12.04 is not released yet
[15:25] <tommylommykins> Are there stability issues witht he in place upgrade?
[15:25] <tommylommykins> bah
[15:25] <tommylommykins> 11.10
[15:25] <ikonia> tommylommykins: it's due for release in month 4 - it's currently month 2
[15:25] <tommylommykins> Freudian slip
[15:25] <FloodBot1> tommylommykins: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:25] <tommylommykins> :P
[15:26] <ikonia> !upgrade > tommylommykins
[15:26] <ikonia> tommylommykins: ubottu has just sent you a private mesage detailing how to upgrade
[15:27]  * tommylommykins is aware of the process.
[15:27] <ssta> tommylommykins: my experience with in place upgrades of ubuntu has always been "just reinstalling si easier and more reliable".  Other people may have different experiences.  Clean install should always work well though
[15:27] <tommylommykins> I want to know how stable it is
[15:27] <Dr_willis> i alwyas do clean installs. :) makes life easier.. but also keeps me at whats normal 'defaults' for tech support help in here.
[15:27] <ssta> tommylommykins: it's not released yet, it's not all that stable
[15:27] <tommylommykins> Reinstalling is usually easier?
[15:27] <ikonia> tommylommykins: it's been out for a long time, it's a stable release.
[15:27] <ssta> tommylommykins: imo, yes
[15:27] <Dr_willis> reinstalling is often much easier/faster for me.
[15:27] <tommylommykins> ok :)
[15:27] <tommylommykins> oh
[15:28] <tommylommykins> Does FGLRX work with 11.10
[15:28] <Dr_willis> got my /home/ on its own hard drive. got a list/script to reinstall packages i normally want.. takes me about 30 min to do a clean reinstall
[15:28]  * tommylommykins remembers that was the reason why he didn't upgrade back in october
[15:28] <ikonia> tommylommykins: depends on your model of video card and the drivers versions it needs to be supported, you'll need to do research on that
[15:28] <Dr_willis> tommylommykins,  it can. and it depends on the exact hardware.
[15:28] <tommylommykins> ok
[15:28] <Dr_willis> gnome-shell has issues here with my One ATI machine.
[15:28] <Dr_willis> unity works.
[15:29]  * tommylommykins would have installed it to use gnomeshell
[15:29] <tommylommykins> :(
[15:29] <Dr_willis> it all depends on your card i imagibne
[15:29]  * ikonia wishes tommylommykins would stop doing emotes/me commands
[15:29]  * Dr_willis seconds that :)
[15:30]  * Dr_willis waits for someone to ask 'how are you printing that text in red'
[15:30] <ssta> red?
[15:30] <starn> hello, i need assistance with fixing my sound.. i just got a new machine.. and when i plug my headphones sound still comes from the speakers. i am not used to this sound device it's fancyer than my old one. my old one was IDT HD audio i believe this one is Realtek i think..
[15:30] <Dr_willis> some irc clients colorize /me actions differntly
[15:30] <Voyack> Hello all :)
[15:31] <starn> Dr_willis: i see everything in green or blue.. or light green. than again i use irssi...
[15:31] <ssta> Dr_willis: oh.  Probably some of them there gui clients I've heard tell about :)
[15:31] <Dr_willis> irssi can do colors. :) as can weechat
[15:31] <Voyack> Is here any channel especially for tech support, cause i have problem, and i googled it, but there is no answer :(
[15:31] <tommylommykins> OK, thanks for the help, I shall disappear on your behalf :)
[15:32] <theadmin> Voyack: This is the one.
[15:32] <theadmin> Voyack: #ubuntu-offtopic is for general discussions
[15:32] <Dr_willis> starn,  i see variations of that question all the time in here. Not sure there is a definitive 'fix' it may be hardware spefific. You could check the askubuntu.com site and the forums to see if they have some guides  or work arounds.
[15:32] <Voyack> oh, great. So, i will try to be as fluent as possible. I was googling all my problems, but i can't deal with this one.
[15:33] <theadmin> Voyack: Just state the problem and we'll try to help :)
[15:33] <Dr_willis> seen where headphones do or do not switch over. seen where the speakers dont switch back.  seen variants with usb speakers/headphones..
[15:33] <Voyack> i have Ubuntu 11.04. I run without Unity, cause i don't like it. But compiz effects aren't working. All my windows are snapping to right upper corner, and i cannot deal with it.
[15:34] <Dr_willis> Voyack,  so what desktop are you using?
[15:34] <Voyack> Classic
[15:35] <Dr_willis> if you alt-click on a window and drag it back down, does it move down?
[15:35] <bazhang> Voyack, ccsm installed?
[15:35] <starn> i've googled everywhere Dr_willis   to be honest with my old machine i wanted it to play music from speakers and VoIP software such as teamspeak 3 play over headphones.. my old hardware couldn't do it in linux.. considering how this new hardware is functioning playing audio on both i assume this hardware can do it. also in sound options i see analog headphones and speakers.. but i can't figure out how to force stuff to play on a single one.. it just appears t
[15:35] <Voyack> Dr_willis - nope.
[15:35] <Voyack> bazhang - i'm not sure.
[15:35] <epistax> Oh good, ubuntu just swapped which port on the graphics card corresponded to the first monitor. I was worried that things were going to get boring.
[15:35] <bazhang> Voyack, compizconfig-settings-manager is the package
[15:35] <Dr_willis> starn,  ive never had to fight with the problem. :) ive just seen it asked in here about once a day it seems.
[15:36] <Dr_willis> starn,  the new sound cards all seem to do the switching of ports in differnt ways. that can cause issues.
[15:36] <robin0800> Voyack: are you sure you have compiz working?
[15:36] <Voyack> yes i do
[15:36] <bazhang> robin0800, he said they were not working
[15:36] <Voyack> i have compiz fuzion icon and stuff.
[15:36] <Dr_willis> Voyack,  so you see a title bar and window borders?
[15:37] <Voyack> yup
[15:37] <xaxes> hey all .. Im searching for a way to get python2.4 for ubuntu natty on a ARM .. any suggestions? I added http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ maverick / lucid, but no python2.4.. when did it leave?
[15:37] <bazhang> Voyack, check in ccsm on window move plugin
[15:37] <Voyack> but i can't move the window. It's like fixed
[15:37] <Dr_willis> sounds like a compiz plugin to me also..
[15:37] <Dr_willis> disable compiz perhaps, try moveing them. restart compiz. see if they move back perhaps.
[15:37] <robin0800> Voyack: in classic compiz is broken it needs a hack to work
[15:38] <Voyack> robin0800 - so what do i have to do?
[15:38] <marius1> can any1 help me install my ATI driver on 11.04 ??
[15:38] <bazhang> robin0800, which is what?
[15:38] <Voyack> i was restarting compiz, and no effect
[15:38] <bazhang> Voyack, and you checked the appropriate plugin in ccsm?
[15:38] <epistax> Well maybe someone can help with this. When i boot up, there's about a 50/50 chance that Ubuntu will decide my one and only monitor is the left monitor or the right monitor. When it decides that it's the right monitor, I have no ability to start any programs in X because I have no access to anything but the right click context menu. Any suggestions?
[15:38] <Dr_willis> marius1,  tried the 'jockey-gtk' app yet? (called 'addational drivers' in the menus)
[15:39] <robin0800> Voyack: to check can you edit panels by holding alt?
[15:39] <Dr_willis> epistax,  whats your video chipset?
[15:39] <Ignisss> Guys ive got a clean ubuntu 10.04lts install on a pc with a mainboard with the ck804 audio chip but ive got no audio at all, ive followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting but it still doesnt work, anyone has any idea? Ive also made a post here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/188890 in wich the results of aplay -l and lspci are posted and also posted
[15:39] <Ignisss> them http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11719125&postcount=39 here
[15:39] <epistax> Dr_willis: nvidia
[15:39] <Voyack> mmkay guys, now it's working kinda better.
[15:39] <crfripper> where do I find pulseaudio? it says it's installed in ubuntu software center but I Can't find it
[15:39] <Dr_willis> epistax,  try running the nvidia-settings tool and  see if you can set which monitor is the primary, and turn off the other.
[15:40] <Dr_willis> crfripper,  theres pulse audio tools that have icons. but not pulseaudio itself.
[15:40] <marius1> Dr_willis: yes i have already installed that one..but it doesnt work, i feel it, even a video on youtube is lagging
[15:40] <bazhang> crfripper, to configure it? such as pavucontrol and the like?
[15:40] <rymate1234> hey
[15:40] <epistax> Dr_willis: I'd love to but I don't know how to spawn anything from just the right hand monitor :). Also it looks like it doesn't work from non-x session
[15:40] <Dr_willis> marius1,  sounds like its not using the nvidia drivers then. does nvidia-settings run?  this is a desktop? laptop? not one of those weird new laptops wth the dual gpus is it?
[15:41] <crfripper> ahh I see, well I'm trying to set up a sound server to get 2 windows computers to share 1 set of speakers
[15:41] <crfripper> using ubuntu in virtual box
[15:41] <marius1> Dr_willis: it's a laptop and i have ATI Radeon
[15:41] <Dr_willis> epistax,  go to the console and try restarting the X server
[15:41] <rymate1234> is there a way to resize my partitions without reinstalling?
[15:41] <Voyack> one more question - when i got to choose window menager which should i use? i have Compiz, metacity, and Kwin
[15:41] <Voyack> and GTK and Emerald as window decorators
[15:41] <bazhang> rymate1234, to do what exactly
[15:42] <Dr_willis> marius1,  i had to use some guide on askubuntu.com to get my only ati box to use the newer ati drivers. even then. gnome-shell dosent work.
[15:42] <Voyack> should i use Compiz and Emerald to have these effects working?
[15:42] <rymate1234> i want to resize my /home and shrink my wid
[15:42] <rymate1234> *windows
[15:42] <marius1> Dr_willis: so what to do?
[15:42] <Dr_willis> Voyack,  emerald is basically dead. so use gtk window decor. and compiz.
[15:42] <bazhang> rymate1234, via gparted live cd? is that what you mean?
[15:42] <rymate1234> yea
[15:42] <rymate1234> oh waits
[15:43] <Dr_willis> marius1,  you could hit up askubuntu.com and see if the guide helps you.
[15:43] <rymate1234> i'll use that thx
[15:43] <crfripper> just got the PulseAudio Volume Control
[15:43] <marius1> Dr_willis: ok i will do that
[15:43] <Dr_willis> marius1,  it walked through making .deb packages of the newer drivers.
[15:43] <Dr_willis> crfripper,  so what are you expecting to find?
[15:43] <Dr_willis> theres other pav* tools you can install for more tweaking of pulse audio
[15:43] <meerkats> SORRY FOR THE CAPS, BUT MY IBUS IS STUCK AT PINYIN AND I CANNOT CHANGE IT TO ROMANJA KOREAN OR TURN IT OFF... HELP PLEASE
[15:44] <knubbze-> hi
[15:45] <CowaRd> Hello everyone... I need some quick advice. What's the best way to install both Ubuntu and Windows without having a boot conflict. (Am starting from scratch)
[15:45] <Dr_willis> !info libflashsupport-jack
[15:45] <knubbze-> is there a way to remove *all* packages that are not necessary? (i.e. any package that a debootstrap wouldn't install)
[15:45] <Dr_willis> knubbze-,  not that i have ever seen
[15:45] <crfripper> looking for a tool for settuing up a sound server
[15:45] <knubbze-> trying to get rid of gnome
[15:45] <Dr_willis> CowaRd,  each on its own hard drive - works very well
[15:45] <Dr_willis> !puregnome
[15:45] <Dr_willis> !purekde
[15:45] <Dr_willis> Those guides MAY be out of date.
[15:46] <bazhang> knubbze-, why not start with the minimal iso and build up
[15:46] <knubbze-> no I actually
[15:46] <knubbze-> bazhang: because that involves a lot of work; I have already worked my way down the dpkg -l
[15:46] <ubuntu-guy> Dr_willis, For long time i am trying to remove Ubuntu default plymout Background(Boot logo) in order to setup my own custom Background... Any hints please?
[15:46] <knubbze-> and started removing all sorts of packages
[15:46] <Dr_willis> its easier to install stuff with apt  then it is to remove.
[15:46] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-guy,  i just disable plymouth.
[15:46] <CowaRd> Dr_willis: I got only one, is on a laptop... and I need windows only for couple of stuffs, my main OS will be Ubuntu
[15:47] <Dr_willis> CowaRd,  you can run ubuntu from a external usb/flash drive.  or you repartion your HD and let grub handle it.
[15:47] <Dr_willis> CowaRd,  install windows first to the first part of the HD. leave rest unallocated. let ubuntu installer partion unallocated space as needed
[15:48] <elsoja> how can i ajust the mouse speed in a touchpad?
[15:48] <elsoja> i already have put the sensitivity and acceleration at the maximum
[15:48] <ubuntu-guy> Dr_willis, I chroot the iso ... So i can disable the plymouth permanently ?
[15:48] <elsoja> but i want it even more fast
[15:48] <CowaRd> great Dr_willis Thanks... coz when I tried to inst win7 after ubuntu, it mucked up my boot. :) thanks
[15:50] <crfripper> think I found a good guide on techytalk
[15:50] <zhuang> How would I go about having gtk/qt themes, through lxappearance or gtk-dhtheme, in a wmfs only session?
[15:50] <epistax> Man this is all so confusing. I don't know what the relationship is between the resolution list given my nvidia, the resolution list available under Displays, and the resolution list given by xrandr. They are all different.
[15:51] <Voyack> Yay, it's me back :)
[15:51] <Voyack> this right - corner snapping appears only when i switch to compiz
[15:52] <Voyack> there is no problem with KDE
[15:52] <Voyack> i want to kill myself
[15:52] <knubbze-> well
[15:52] <knubbze-> alternatively is there a way to
[15:52] <knubbze-> get the list of packages that a debootstrap *would* install?
[15:53] <knubbze-> I can then make a delta of these two lists and remove the remainig set
[15:53] <okum> anybody know if i can make my panel in ubuntu 11.10 look like this? file:///home/tyler/Downloads/2-mcubuntu.jpg
[15:53] <crfripper> "paprefs" was what I was looking for
[15:54] <epistax> I'm punting. I can't figure out what I'm supposed to do. Apparently xorg.conf doesn't matter anymore, so nothing I can actually configure matters. Why Ubuntu won't let me just set the resolution and try it I have no idea. Why I have a different resolution list in three different places is confusing me.
[15:54] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-guy,  i dont remaster isos so no idea.
[15:54] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-guy,  the nosplash kernel option turns it off.
[15:54] <Kyshtynbai> Hi everyone. I've gota laptop with ubuntu 10.04 Gnome 2, and I'd like to use laptop display and an external one. How do I do this? It would be great to have one of the virtual desktops on the external monitor.
[15:55] <salmiak> is it too early to get a 2.0 version of VLC for ubuntu10.04 ?
[15:55] <ubuntu-guy> Dr_willis, You mean /etc/grub/grub.conf or other location ?
[15:55] <Dr_willis> Kyshtynbai,  virtual desktops dont work that way. You can have a 'wide' desktop if you wanted
[15:55] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-guy,  the live cd uses syslinux for its bootloader i belive.
[15:55] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-guy,  an installed system would use grub
[15:55] <Kyshtynbai> Dr_willis: I see, thanks.
[15:55] <zhuang> Hello everyone, when I load up my tiling manager wm, I do so through wmfs. How can I have a gtk/qt theme when I do so? Would I install a DE in the wmfs-only session?
[15:56] <escott> epistax, nvidia doesn't follow the full xrandr protocol so that may be a source of confusion. you just have to follow what is in their tools
[15:56] <Dr_willis> !info wmfs
[15:56] <ssta> Kyshtynbai: you can do it, but you'd have to use a different xorg.conf for each VT.  It's not a trivial thing to get right
[15:56] <ubuntu-guy> Dr_willis, i see , will try it soon
[15:56] <okum> can anybody assist me in making my panel in ubuntu 11.10 look like this? http://cdn.unixmen.com/wp-content/uploads/stories/ubuntu/mcbuntu/2-mcubuntu.jpg
[15:56] <epistax> escott: Even nvidia doesn't list the resolution that my monitor supports. It goes above it and below it, but no 1280x1024
[15:56] <Kyshtynbai> ssta: I also thought about modifying xorg, but this is tough for me for now).
[15:57] <epistax> xrandr list is much larger than what Ubuntu will actually allow me to set as well
[15:57] <ssta> Kyshtynbai: then don't bother.  It's difficult
[15:57] <Dr_willis> Kyshtynbai,  that would make a sepetate X session for Exch monitor. not exactly what you asked for. ;0
[15:57] <okum> is there a global menu for ubuntu 11.10?
[15:57] <Kyshtynbai> Dr_willis: does it mean to x servers running?
[15:57] <Kyshtynbai> *two
[15:57] <Dr_willis> I tend to just fullscreen an app. and drag it over/make it sticky on the 2nd monitor.
[15:58] <epistax> and compiz still segfaults on start up. I don't know if I should care or not.
[15:58] <Dr_willis> Kyshtynbai,  you would have 2 X sessions, 2 desktops and so forth - on on each moniotr. You could even set up a 2nd mouse/keyboard to have a 2 user box. :) with a single machine.
[15:58] <Kyshtynbai> Oh, that could be handy
[15:58] <Dr_willis> Kyshtynbai,  but thats not what you asked how to do. :)
[15:58] <Dr_willis> !multiseat
[15:58] <Dr_willis> No factoid on that yet. :(
[15:59] <crfripper> I keep getting failed to download check your internet connection in ubuntu software center even though I can surf just fine
[15:59] <epistax> Ubuntu refuses any refresh rate other than 50 Hz. Lucky for my it's configurable in my monitor on screen settings
[16:00] <epistax> You'd think there'd be a single file somewhere that I could say that the monitor accepts 1280x1024 @ 60 Hz
[16:00] <marius1> i need help with ati radeon driver, to install it to work properly!
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> epistax: what GPU do you use?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: http://www2.userful.com/products/userful-multiseat-linux
[16:01] <ichbinder> hello. When the playback of an MP3 starts, it "lags" once or twice, like a little skip... happens with VLC and Amarok. Also happens for avi files in VLC. I have that problem since a few months and a "solution" I found online was to delete some hidden folder in home. Then, it didn't skip anymore for a few files. But after a while, it started again. So I decided to ignore the skipping... but it's getting to annoying now. Anybody an
[16:01] <ichbinder> idea what to do? Already searched a bit but couldn't really find anything.
[16:01] <epistax> ActionParsnip: It's a.. large.. nvidia. 8800 GTS
[16:02] <mece> !list
[16:02] <epistax> In windows I'm running skyrim with half the bells and whistles at 1280x1024..
[16:02] <ichbinder> ah, also happens if I pause a song and continue
[16:02] <skyball> just installed Ubuntu. Screen is Flashing Purple. I believe it is a configuration issiue?
[16:02] <skyball> what can i do?
[16:03] <marius1> my ati radeon driver doesnt work properly, any help?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> epistax: if you run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings    you can set the reslution and refresh rate, you can then run:   gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and SET the refresh rate in that file
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> skyball: what is you log into the Unity2D session?
[16:04] <ansul> i need help to build a cross compiler from c to mips
[16:04] <ansul> where shld i go
[16:04] <ansul> please give me the channel name... :/
[16:04] <skyball> can not sdo any thing with srean flashing!!
[16:04] <skyball> do*
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> skyball: log off, does it happen on the login screen
[16:05] <skyball> can not log in
[16:05] <skyball> gos to flashing
[16:05] <skyball> right after boot
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> skyball: press CTRL+ALT+T and run:  killall -u $USER
[16:05] <epistax> ActionParsnip: I'll try this out. What I've been hearing so far today is that xorg.conf isn't used any more. I'll give it a shot.
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> epistax: it IS used, ubuntu uses udev now but if the xorg.conf file exists, it will be used
[16:06] <skyball> ActionParsnip thanks i will try
[16:06] <ichbinder> ah, and I think it helped to delete pulseaudio or so... but like I said, only for one or two playbacks, then the lagging is back
[16:06] <ichbinder> i mean the hidden pulseaudio folder in home
[16:07] <shaagz> hi
[16:07] <yeochief> quit
[16:07] <shaagz> y
[16:07] <shaagz> ??
[16:08] <shaagz> ok
[16:08] <shaagz> hi theadmin
[16:09] <theadmin> Hello shaagz
[16:09] <shaagz> hey m newbee to irc chats
[16:09] <ikonia> shaagz: Hi there, this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only, if you feel you have a question you need help with this is the place you ask
[16:10] <ikonia> shaagz: if you want to just chat about "stuff" try the channel #defocus
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> or #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:11] <greenit> hi, is there a way to show the creation-date of a file in the terminal?
[16:11] <ikonia> greenit: you see if it you do ls -la (or the last edit date)
[16:11] <danyel> ls -a
[16:11] <greenit> thx
[16:11] <linux> ajuda com a instalaçao de driver da placa de video S3 onboard
[16:11] <danyel> ls -la my bad
[16:11] <linux> no linux
[16:12] <ikonia> !es | linux
[16:12] <linux> foda se all
[16:12] <linux> se nao foi mal
[16:12] <theadmin> You don't have to do "a", it gets hidden files in and that's annoying
[16:12] <epistax> ActionParsnip: I don't see any effect. I'm restarting X by using "sudo service lightdm restart" (which is new to me). I added a subsection Display to the Screen section and added the new resolution I want. There are no other resolutions anywhere in the file.
[16:12] <okum> hello, i tried to do a autoreconf command, and got a msg saying configure.ac or configure.in is required. anybody know how to fix this?
[16:13] <ikonia> okum: you'll need to have one of those files,
[16:13] <dddbmt> If I have ssh access to a remote server. How can I mount an folder from that server, so the programs on my local machine can access the files?
[16:13] <okum> ikonia: where is the file suppose to be?
[16:13] <greenit> can i use this date which i see in any way to sort the files through a shell-script? i am too lazy to sort them by hand^^
[16:13] <phnom> dddbmt: sshfs maybe.
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> epistax: X needs restartinig, or you can reboot the OS
[16:14] <epistax> ActionParsnip: I thought that was the "new" way to get X restarted. Bah. Okay I'll look some more.
[16:14] <kish> is there a way to install chrome next to chromium?
[16:14] <theadmin> kish: Sure, they don't conflict with each other at all
[16:14] <ichbinder> can nobody help me with my audio problem? :-/
[16:14] <danyel> greenit, use the -t option to  modify by time
[16:14] <okum> kish: why the hell would you want both?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> kish: sure, just install the deb from google's website...
[16:14] <kish> okum, because chrome coimes with flash
[16:14] <dddbmt> phnom, thanks - I'll check it out!
[16:15] <kish> it comes with flash inside the browser and i need flash
[16:15] <okum> kish: ahh, ok, gotcha.
[16:15] <kantlivelong> xanyone know how to get a SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum to work on 11.10? Ive got the front panel working fine but the actual output on the card doesnt work :(?
[16:15] <danyel> ex: ls -ltr will show you files ordered by modification time with the most recent all the way at the bottom of the list. remove the r to have it at the top
[16:15] <lotor> I want to make gameplay videos of games in linux  to promote linux and show  ppl that u can game in linux,but i fail so far to find a proper program for desktop recording is kk to use recorddesktop but for games the video sux.Can someone help me ?
[16:15] <greenit> danyel, how do u mean this?
[16:15] <okum> ikonia: where the hell does the configure.ac file go?
[16:16] <danyel> in terminal
[16:16] <bazhang> lotor, tried kazam? eidete? or what
[16:16] <greenit> danyel, ah, just read ur example, didnt see it first^^
[16:16] <danyel> :D
[16:16] <lotor> Yeah ive tried kazam the picture freezes after i start the game
[16:17] <lotor> in the video afterwards i mean
[16:17] <greenit> danyel, however, i want to put files with a predefined date in one folder and all others in another one... is there a way to use the date of ls -al in a shellscript?
[16:17] <lotor> when i play its no problem
[16:17] <theadmin> okum: Run "autoconf", it will generate a configure script, after that run the configure script, and finally make
[16:19] <flo`> hi
[16:19] <flo`> is it possible to install ubuntu with / on a LVM volume? and how?
[16:21] <epistax> ActionParsnip: This actually worked. Thank you. I still don't know how to really reset X without resetting the computer though
[16:21] <unperson> I've been reading a bit on backup software, but I'm looking for some advice.  I'm trying to to find software that: 1) doesn't have a steep learning curve, 2) Will perform backups both locally and over a network,  3) uses space efficiently, 4) can be scheduled for a certain time, and 5) can do nuanced management of past backups.
[16:21] <epistax> Oh well it only took 3 hours to figure this out
[16:21] <unperson> By 5 I mean I'd like to for example have snapshots for the last 2 days, 1 week ago, 2 weeks ago, and 1 month ago.
[16:21] <flo`> unperson, write a script.
[16:22] <unperson> A GUI is not necessary (as long as documentation is good), but I would like do avoid any significant scripting (simple stuff I can do).
[16:22] <flo`> unperson, rsync is your friend. it's really easy to create incremental backups with rsync (that is "simple scripting")
[16:22] <warriors8710> ciaoooo
[16:22] <warriors8710> !list
[16:23] <unperson> Assuming it's compatible, I can do 2 with sshfs and 4 with cron, so those are not strictly necessary.
[16:23] <warriors8710> !list
[16:23] <okum> theadmin: it won't run autoconf for some reason....
[16:23] <bazhang> warriors8710, no file sharing here
[16:23] <theadmin> okum: Well, I assume you have that installed?
[16:23] <Mixxit> hi i have a resolution of 1920x1080 but man ubuntu is just too fat
[16:23] <Mixxit> how can i maket his smaller
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> epistax: no idea, just easier to reboot i some cases
[16:24] <okum> theadmin: lmfao.. does it come installed when upgrading 11.10?
[16:24] <flo`> unperson, read up about rsync, especially that "hardlinking" option. then read up about the date command and its output. then read up about how to erase files. with a bit scripting you should be able to write your script
[16:24] <epistax> ActionParsnip: Fair enough. Thank you!
[16:24] <unperson> flo`, I've used rsync but never for this purpose.
[16:24] <unperson> flo`, I gather it can be used to make incremental backups using hardlinks.
[16:25] <theadmin> okum: I don't think so, no. "sudo apt-get install build-essential flex m4 bison autoconf make" should get you going with essential building tools
[16:25] <flo`> unperson, true
[16:25] <psion> hello, I'm trying to apt-get install something, but when I do it says -- The following packages have unmet dependencies: -- boxee : Depends: libxmlrpc-c3 but it is not installable -- note, I'm not even trying to install boxee right now, I battled with it a while back and got it to install, but it still presents that message
[16:26] <psion> how do I tell apt not to worry about it anymore?
[16:26] <unperson> flo`, It seems like it can be adapted to do full backup and subsequent incrementals, but it's not clear to me that I will then be able to delete my oldest backup in any sane way (without destroying the subsequent backups).
[16:26] <flo`> but unperson: beware! it will not compress files, it will not detect MOVING files, it will store changed files completely (that is, if oyu change three bytes in a 4G file, the whole file is stored again), and deleting backups takes some time (there are lots of file references to be changed)
[16:26] <okum> theadmin: yeah, it's installed already.
[16:26] <theadmin> okum: Okay, when you cd to the directory where "configure.ac" is and run "autoconf", what is the result?
[16:26] <flo`> unperson, if you do HARDlinking (not SYMlinking), it'll work as easy as rm -rf backups/20120101
[16:26] <warriors8710> !list
[16:26] <bazhang> warriors8710, not here
[16:26] <unperson> flo`, Oh, yeah, I guess that makes sense.
[16:27] <flo`> unperson, a hardlink lets three file names point to one file. if you now delete one filename, the file isn't deleted
[16:27] <unperson> flo`, Right.
[16:27] <flo`> it's only deleted if you delete the last backup referencing there
[16:27] <flo`> but the rsync solution has its disadvantages, as i just stated above
[16:27] <flo`> and it doesn't deal _super_ efficient with your disk space. but you quickly can access any random backup.
[16:27] <flo`> ymmv
[16:28] <dddbmt> phnom, sshfs worked out great. thanks alot!
[16:28] <unperson> flo`, Right.  Ideally I'd like something with compression too.  Although if I get everything else I want that's not too bad.
[16:28] <warriors8710> ciao
[16:28] <warriors8710> !list
[16:28] <bazhang> !it | warriors8710
[16:28] <unperson> flo`, I thought about combining it with some sort of compressed file system./
[16:28] <phnom> dddbmt: np :)
[16:28] <flo`> unperson, i also had that idea. never tried it, though
[16:28] <unperson> flo`, Although I have no experience with those.
[16:28] <flo`> same problem here ;)
[16:28] <gioragozzino_> salve havrei bisogno di un aiuto con un problema di ubuntu 11.10 qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[16:29] <gioragozzino_> avrei*
[16:29] <psion> anyone know how to tell apt not to worry about a package you once tried to install?
[16:29] <bazhang> gioragozzino_, #ubuntu-it for italian please
[16:29] <gioragozzino_> ty
[16:29] <flo`> are the alternate images also hybrid-images?
[16:29] <unperson> flo`, I was playing with Back In Time.  I think it is basically doing what you describe under the hood.
[16:30] <greenit> when i use "ls -al | grep "09/04/2011" " can i also add a command to copy all found files into a separate directory?
[16:30] <CuiZhe> hello:)
[16:31] <salmiak> ichbinder: dod you find more about the music startlag problem? I think I have same problem, at the start of the song there is some small soundproblem, but not after a pause I think? allso if I use the loop-between-two-points button to make it restart the song then there is no sound problem
[16:31] <okum> theadmin: ok, i got past that command, now i'm stuck on another one.. this time it's to install the applet. "make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop."
[16:32] <mrrothhcloud_> what is the best ubuntu workable USB WIFI dongle
[16:32] <theadmin> okum: Did you run the configure script after autoconf?
[16:32] <mrrothhcloud_> that works out of the box
[16:32] <theadmin> okum: "sudo apt-get install checkinstall && ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall"
[16:32] <mrrothhcloud_> which one should I buy that will work out of the box with linux ubuntu for wifi dongle
[16:32] <unperson> greenit, I think maybe "cp `ls -al | grep "09/04/2011` /foo/bar" might work.  Although really this is the sort of job the find command is for.
[16:33] <unperson> greenit, Take my advice with a grain of salt.  My kung fu is not strong.
[16:33] <greenit> unperson, how can i copy files with the find-command?
[16:33] <salmiak> ichbinder: I don't use Amarok, only VLC, so I don't know about that one. About pulseaudio, what folder, what file/folders do you remove?
[16:34] <unperson> greenit, The find command has an option to perform an arbitrary command on each file found.
[16:34] <FCR2012> Hello!
[16:34] <ichbinder> salmiak: sorry, didn't see response first. let me read
[16:34] <unperson> greenit, But you'd have to look at the man page for details.
[16:34] <FCR2012> Man?
[16:34] <unperson> greenit, Anyway, it may not be necessary here, but it's worth knowing that it's very powerful for this sort of thing.
[16:34] <FCR2012> Unperson
[16:34] <FCR2012> you made typo
[16:34] <FCR2012> Man instead of main
[16:34] <greenit> unperson, thx
[16:35] <bazhang> FCR2012, ubuntu support question?
[16:35] <salmiak> ichbinder: I suppose it possible to remove pulsaudio soundsystem completely from the ubuntu system to... perhaps that is worth testing... there is those other too OSS and ALSA I think they take over then
[16:35] <unperson> FCR2012, Sorry
[16:35] <unperson> FCR2012, Er, I mean thanks.  :-)
[16:35] <edgy> Hi, what's the difference between encrypting a file using my private key or my friend public key? using gpg of course
[16:35] <salmiak> ichbinder: nothing really *needs* pulsaudio I believe
[16:35] <FCR2012> Bazhang ...nope just here to watch the chat
[16:35] <ichbinder> salmiak: do "$ mv ~/.pulse ~/.pulse.backup
[16:35] <unperson> greenit, Yes, I meant man page.  If you do look into find, look at using the -exec option.  I'd look for examples on the web.
[16:35] <salmiak> ok
[16:35] <theadmin> salmiak: False. Gnome nowadays really *depends* on pulseaudio, it won't work with alsa
[16:35] <ichbinder> salmiak: well, in general, pulseaudio is a nice frontend, afaik. But that problem is really annoying... :(
[16:36] <salmiak> oh. how bad :-(
[16:36] <kantlivelong> anyone know how to get a SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum to work on 11.10? Ive got the front panel working fine but the actual output on the card doesnt work :(?
[16:36] <ichbinder> theadmin: thanks for that input
[16:36] <okum> theadmin: i'm confused, autoconf won't open, commands don't work and i need a toke.. lol, thanks for the help, i'll look into it later, don't have the patients to figure it out.
[16:36] <mrrothhcloud_> what a good plug and play usb Wifi dongle?
[16:37] <unperson> greenit, but anyway enclosing a command in back ticks `` should basically put the output of that command on the command line.  In this case a list of files...although it may not work because it may have all the extra cruft from the -l command
[16:37] <skyball> my box boots to Ubuntu 11.10 terminal.  How do I get to desktop?
[16:37] <ichbinder> salmiak: so, moving the .pulse folder helps... I've played 4 or 5 songs now in different players and no lags so far... but I promise, after I few more, the lags will be back. :)
[16:38] <crfripper> mrrothh, I believe  RTL8187 is the most universally supported wifi adapter chipset
[16:38] <unperson> greenit, That would be where find would be your friend./
[16:38] <srini_> http://goterminal.blogspot.in/2012/02/spark-tab-shines-with-zenithink-c71.html
[16:38] <kantlivelong> this stinks :/
[16:38] <crfripper> anything with that, you can't go wrong
[16:39] <theadmin> okum: k, good luck
[16:40] <okum> theadmin: what i was trying to do, is make my panel bar at the top have a global menu/clock and app indicator.. (i'm using 11.10//gnome classic)
[16:40] <theadmin> okum: Meh... simpliest way is by using Unity of course >.>
[16:41] <okum> theadmin: lol, i'm new to linux.. how do i do that?
[16:41] <theadmin> okum: Um, Unity is the standard Ubuntu desktop environment (which you decided not to use)
[16:42] <thomas__> what is a good program for converting avi files to dvd for burning?
[16:42] <okum> theadmin: yes, i'm using a lion os x theme, hence why i'm using gnome classic. the launcher on the left was quite annoying that is why i'm using gnome classic.
[16:42] <theadmin> okum: I see.
[16:43] <theadmin> thomas__: Any DVD burner can do that... Brasero, K3b, etc
[16:43] <theadmin> okum: Well... good luck, I have no idea what you are actually trying to compile and whether it will even work with gnome3
[16:43] <robin0800> okum: hold alt and right click
[16:43] <thomas__> oh, ok. ty.
[16:44] <bazhang> thomas__, devede
[16:44] <george> hello
[16:44] <Kareempharmacist> hello
[16:44] <okum> robin0800: yeah i got that, need to install a global menu for gnome 3.
[16:44] <george> what s up?
[16:45] <sda> hi all, i have an Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n, with kernel 3.0.0 default ubuntu it works, but it doesn't my touchpad, so i decided to compile the 3.2. With alpha 12.04 3.2kernel works for wifi but not my audio. With my personalized kernel i have a working touchpad, working audio but no wifi. What can I do? where can be my mistake?
[16:45] <okum> theadmin: lol, alright. thanks anyhow. but uhm, i was basically trying to make my panel look like mac.. :P
[16:45] <_jay> heyall, I've been getting the partial upgrade warning for a few weeks now, in the update menu 2 firefox listings have the checkbox grayed out, just wondering what to do. 10.10 64 bit
[16:45] <theadmin> okum: That's kind of disgusting to me, but good luck anyway :P
[16:45] <Kareempharmacist> what do mean by global menu
[16:46] <robin0800> okum: yes sure you can do that see omg!ubuntu! or webupd8
[16:46] <okum> theadmin: ahha, i enjoy it quite much! (friend has mac, use friends computer often, he told me about linux, with mac theme, i now love it to death.
[16:46] <marius1> Hi. My Ati Radeon driver doesnt work properly.. what should I do to install it right??
[16:46] <ichbinder> salmiak: did you try it?
[16:47] <okum> theadmin, robin0800, i think i'll just wait untill macbuntu works for 11.10 or something.
[16:51] <salmiak> ichbinder: haven't tried yet. am looking for what the directory is used for
[16:52] <ichbinder> salmiak: kay... hm, so far after a few songs in my playlist, no lagging anymore... maybe "it" improved, magically. :)
[16:53] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: so I was curious about size of ubuntu.  Mini with nothing selected 872M, add Xorg 975M, add Openbox 1008M (after "apt-get clean" 974M), add vim 1012M (1004M after "apt-get clean")
[16:54] <MooMoo> this is a bit off topic BUT Is there anyone in here that are Italian or french (not canadian french) who also knows decent english?
[16:54] <bazhang> MooMoo, try ##english
[16:54] <supertux> hello nybody know an android channel please?
[16:55] <supertux> i need to root my hone
[16:55] <bazhang> #android supertux
[16:55] <supertux> phone
[16:55] <nobuu> hi, I have some trouble with virtualbox under unity. When I launch virtualbox-qt it doesn't appear on the unity application panel (and nor virtual-machine's windows does)
[16:55] <supertux> tnk bazhang
[16:55] <supertux> bazhang, can't enter the channle
[16:55] <nobuu> MooMoo: i'm italian
[16:55] <supertux> nobuu, ancheio
[16:56] <supertux> conosci un canale android? devo rootare il cell
[16:56] <oCean> supertux: english only here
[16:56] <bazhang> !register | supertux
[16:56] <MooMoo> nobuu do you write italian too?
[16:56] <supertux> bazhang, my nick is not registered can't enter that chanle
[16:56] <oCean> MooMoo: this channel is only for ubuntu issues
[16:56] <supertux> i have a galaxy wonder need to root
[16:57] <bazhang> supertux, /join #freenode for that
[16:57] <supertux> ok than you
[16:57] <Lorra> Hi everyone, I was thinking about the following thing: I changed a bit partitions on my hard drive from when I installed Ubuntu 11.04 (now updated to 11.10) and swap partition is under a different device now and it's not automatically mounted and activated anymore. How can I get it mounted and activated on boot again?
[16:57] <supertux> thank
[16:57] <supertux> handle fstab
[16:58] <supertux> check fastab ;-)
[16:58] <supertux> fstab
[16:58] <unperson> Does anyone here use Unison?  I used that quite extensively for a while, and now I'm thinking that that may double as a back-up solution.
[16:58] <supertux> --->  /etc/fstab
[16:58] <supertux> LoRez, maybe you'll need a uuid to identify it
[16:58] <Pickleface> hi
[16:58] <supertux> the partition i mean...
[16:59] <Lorra> supertux, fstab says about the old location, but I am not sure which options I should mount it
[16:59] <Pickleface> guys for wow what wine should I download?
[16:59] <Pickleface> 1.2 or 1.3?
[16:59] <Infernal> My external drive stopped mounting in my USB3 slot, it mounted once in USB2, but now it also doesnt show up in 2.0.
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> !wine
[16:59] <Pickleface> for world of warcraft
[16:59] <Lorra> supertux, I mean which options should I mount the new swap partition with?
[16:59] <bazhang> Pickleface, ask in #winehq after checking the appdb
[17:00] <nobuu> Lorra: paste your /etc/fstab and ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[17:00] <supertux> Lorra, listen nobuu .... options are simple
[17:01] <nobuu> anyway you have to put the right uuid in the fstab file
[17:01] <supertux> need a new identifier i suppose
[17:01] <nobuu> you can check if it works by running sudo mount -a
[17:01] <nobuu> without rebooting your machine
[17:04] <Lorra> nobuu: here they are http://paste.ubuntu.com/858029/
[17:05] <nobuu> your swap partition is on sda7?
[17:05] <oCean> Lorra: it might be easier to run   sudo blkid
[17:05] <djweezy> im trying to get xinerama setup to only bridge two of my three monitors, anyone know how? i can get it to bridge all three X screens or non, but not only two
[17:05] <nobuu> ehm no :P
[17:05] <Lorra> nobuu, no, it's on sda6
[17:05] <Lorra> nobuu: it used to be on sda7
[17:06] <ikonia> djweezy you can bridge all 3 screens, however you won't be able to use any hardware acceleration on the video cards
[17:06] <shigutso> hello, I have an old Radeon X1600 AGP graphics card and I'd like to know how can I install the best drivers for 3D acceleration in the latest Ubuntu 11.10. Ubuntu's wiki didn't help much
[17:06] <oCean> Lorra:  sudo blkid will in a very easy way show you the current swap device with corresponding UUID
[17:06] <djweezy> ikonia: i know, thats one reason i only want to bridge two, to preserve hw accel on the third, i just cant figure out how to tell Xorg/xinerama to only bridge two
[17:06] <ikonia> shigutso if you open the hardware drivers tool, you'll be offered the ubuntu supported version
[17:07] <oCean> Lorra: all you need to do is change the UUID on line 14 of your paste accordingly
[17:07] <ikonia> djweezy: same as 3 but with two displays defined,
[17:07] <djweezy> ikonia: i did that and now my third display doesnt get a signal
[17:07] <oCean> Lorra: running swapon -a will mount the newly added swap device
[17:07] <ikonia> djweezy: are they on 1, 2 or 3 seperate cards ?
[17:07] <shigutso> ikonia, I tried jockey-gtk, but it didn't offer me anything
[17:07] <djweezy> ikonia: 2
[17:07] <ikonia> shigutso: then there isn't a supported version in ubuntu
[17:08] <ikonia> djweezy: are the two you are trying to bridge on the same card ?
[17:08] <sda> i'm inside make menuconfig of kernel 3.2, i am unable to find b43 firmware.... where can i find it?!
[17:08] <djweezy> ikonia: unfortunately no or i would use twinview
[17:08] <ikonia> djweezy you are going to have a hard time then, as you'll find the 3rd port (second port on the first card) will get in the way
[17:09] <shigutso> ikonia, nice :( do you know where can I find unofficial support, like ppa, etc?
[17:09] <Broc93> hello everybody! geirha and Dr_willis thank you a lot! it worked ;)
[17:09] <ikonia> shigutso: nope and I strongly advise against it
[17:09] <Broc93> now I have another question: where do I find firefox config file? Because the browser in autostart doesn't load the homepage...
[17:09] <escott> sda, b43 firmware would be out of kernel
[17:10] <shigutso> ikonia, ok thanks
[17:10] <djweezy> ikonia: how so? if i set it up to bridge all three my screen layout locations are fine, seems it should just be another xinerama switch in serverlayout section
[17:10] <tent> one of these days i'll learn to remember how painful it is getting wireless working on a dell laptop >_<
[17:11] <sda> escott, so i have a 3.0 standard ubuntu kernel with a working wifi card,  i have a standard 3.2 12.04 kernel with a working wifi card, and i have a 11.10 ubuntu with a 3.2 kernel without a working wifi card, where i am wrong?
[17:11] <Infernal> fdisk -l shows only my internal drive
[17:11] <Lorra> oCean: done, now I reboot and see what happens
[17:11] <Infernal> how do i see where do i mount my external drive?
[17:11] <djweezy> ikonia: http://paste.weezy.us/p/49 is my xorg.conf, if i uncomment the screen 2 line it works with thre bridged
[17:12] <ikonia> djweezy: it "should" be fine, however when doing the positioning if your using one port on a dual port card it often seems to cause issues, with the left of/right of type of positioning as it expects a declaration for the second unused port
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> Infernal  type mount
[17:12] <Lorra> oCean,nobuu, supertux, thanks
[17:12] <edgy> Infernal: fdisk -l should show all your devices, internal or external
[17:12] <Broc93> uhm... how do I add a new printer in Xubuntu 11.10? I can't find any tool in the settings...
[17:13] <fornix> I restored my windows 7 and lost grub. I am following the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and my fdisk -l shows this -> http://pastebin.com/tYEY5tGN  I have ubuntu installed on /dev/sda6 when i did grub-install, i get this error -> http://pastebin.com/mfeLxAMZ
[17:13] <Infernal> edgy: yes, but the problem my external is not mounting
[17:13] <Broc93> please help me :)
[17:13] <edgy> Infernal: not mounting or not showing in fdisk -l?
[17:13] <escott> sda, that firmware is not gpl. thats the whole point of having that firmware. its not in the kernel because it can't be distributed with the kernel
[17:14] <Infernal> edgy: yes, it just doesnt show
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> Infernal  what does mount show?
[17:15] <tent> longshot...but does anyone know of any instructions for getting BCM4311 working on latest build, without a cat5 cable to connect to router....that actually works :)
[17:15] <tent> (got another computer with net connection, obviously)
[17:15] <Infernal> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/Et7ttL6f
[17:15] <oCean> tent: "latest build" as in daily build for 12.04?
[17:15] <edgy> Infernal: then it's not recognized by your system
[17:15] <tent> no, not daily, i was being too lazy to look up what ive just installed haha...12.04
[17:16] <sda> escott, ok perfect, so where i am wrong? i mean if this firmware isn't installed on my computer and with 11.10 3.0 or 12.04 3.2 my wifi works, what module is it using?
[17:16] <oCean> tent: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (still alpha). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[17:16] <edgy> Infernal: is it a usb drive or what?
[17:16] <Infernal> edgy: that is the problem, it was working 15min ago
[17:16] <Infernal> edgy: i tried both a external USB3 drive, and a USB3 flah drive
[17:16] <tent> oCean: i'm being a ragefilled moron, apologies.... 11.10 :$
[17:16] <edgy> Infernal: unplug it, launch tail -f /var/log/messages and plug it and see what is the result
[17:17] <Infernal> tail: cannot open `/var/log/messages' for reading: No such file or directory
[17:17] <hmuller> Infernal: look at /var/log/syslog, messages is gone
[17:18] <sda> is there a way to see what module of kernel a hardware component is using to work?
[17:18] <oCean> tent: I asked, since specifics often matter. Sorry to say I have no actual help for the BCM issue :/
[17:19] <tent> haha, my bad, no worries.
[17:19] <Infernal> edgy: http://pastebin.com/63btPU5q
[17:20] <nobuu> on your systems virtualbox is working properly with unity? In mine it doesn't show up on the left panel (the one that shows running apps).
[17:20] <|newbie|> ciao a tutti
[17:20] <edgy> Infernal: may be the drive or the interface has a physical problem, does it work in another pc? does another disk work in your same interface?
[17:21] <nobuu> i can't minimize virtualbox windows or i "lost" them
[17:21] <Infernal> edgy: No like i sead both my external HDD and my USB Flash drive, arnt maunting
[17:21] <hmuller> sda: which component are you interested in?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> nobuu  i use vbox, do you mean the windows inside vbox, or the vbox window ?
[17:21] <Infernal> On all the ports i might add
[17:22] <hmuller> Anyone know how to get the java plugin to work with chromium in Lubuntu?
[17:22] <ubuntu-guy> menu.lst replaced with grub.cfg ?
[17:22] <ikonia> correct
[17:23] <ikonia> you don't edit grub.cfg directly
[17:23] <ubuntu-guy> So?
[17:23] <Infernal> edgy: i inserted my USB2 drive, it works. I'l try my windows machine.
[17:23] <nobuu> MonkeyDust: all the windows. The main virtualbox window that show the list of the installed machines and the windows of running machines
[17:23] <ikonia> so what ?
[17:23] <edgy> Infernal: yes please try your other machine
[17:23] <ubuntu-guy>  I want to change Color of boot menu
[17:23] <ikonia> !grub2 > ubuntu-guy
[17:23] <bazhang> ubuntu-guy, read the grub2 wiki?
[17:23] <ikonia> ubottu: the link that ubottu has just sent you explains how to change your menu setup
[17:24] <twistsyadada> hi
[17:24] <ikonia> oops, ubuntu-guy the link that ubottu has just sent you explains how to change your menu setup
[17:24] <sda> hmuller, Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n [14e4:4357] (rev 01)
[17:24] <ubuntu-guy> yeah
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> nobuu  what do you mean by 'lost', exactly?
[17:24] <twistsyadada> the login screen keeps throwing me out , how can i get in
[17:24] <ubuntu-guy> thanks
[17:24] <twistsyadada> its like a loop
[17:25] <bazhang> twistsyadada, in 12.04 ?
[17:25] <twistsyadada> yeah :D
[17:25] <bazhang> twistsyadada, then dont crosspost here
[17:25] <nobuu> MonkeyDust: i mean that i can't switch to them using alt+tab or by clicking unity panel cause they aren't showed there
[17:25] <oCean> sda: use -k option to lspci:  lspci -k | grep -i network  -A 3
[17:25]  * milen8204 sad
[17:25] <twistsyadada> well, this problem does occur across stable releases, maybe someone can point me the solution
[17:26] <hmuller> sda: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[17:26] <nobuu> the only way is to launch again virtualbox so it raise the main window and here i can raise also virtual machine's window
[17:26] <bazhang> twistsyadada, you are on 12.04 , you are asking in #ubuntu+1
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> nobuu  strange, no problem here, has it always been like that? what ubuntu version are you running?
[17:26] <twistsyadada> how to switch channels with irssi
[17:26] <Infernal> edgy: both of them work on my other machine
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> twistsyadada  alt arrow
[17:27] <nobuu> MonkeyDust: 11.10 i've installed virtualbox now i don't know if it has ever work under unity
[17:27] <tent> found network cable, wireless now working, oh how i love the internet :D
[17:27] <edgy> Infernal: so if you plug a usb2 drive in this same interface, it works but your usb3 doesn't?
[17:27] <sda> hmuller, yep, i know but i don't want to use proprietary driver, i mean if a standard 11.10 and 12.04 can make it work without why can't I? :)
[17:27] <DJones> twistsyadada: If you've got multiple channels open, press Alt + the channel number
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> nobuu  i don't use unity, so can't say if it's due to that, maybe someone else knows
[17:28] <Infernal> edgy: Yes, it's a usb 3 port
[17:28] <hmuller> sda: What drivers then are "the standard 11.10 and 12.04" using then?
[17:29] <nobuu> MonkeyDust: ok thanks anyway
[17:29] <Meads> j #linux
[17:29] <edgy> Infernal: may be it's a bug, I suggest you download a precise liveCD and boot with and test
[17:29] <Meads> My internet keeps dropping out, It's a wired connection. Any idea what could be causing this. http://pastebin.com/BxeGhjfV - theres my ifconfig, the packets dropped shouldn't be that high should it?
[17:29] <shaun413> !nomnom
[17:29] <Infernal> what di you mean by precise?
[17:30] <edgy> Infernal: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-amd64.iso
[17:30] <edgy> Infernal: this gurantee you are using a newer kernel in an easy way
[17:30] <oCean> nobuu: does the virtualbox icon will appear in the launcher when you start it from terminal?
[17:30] <sda> that's is the problem! :D i have no idea! I think they are standard kernel open firmware so i asked if i can find out what kernel module a component is using, and they told me about -k on lspci, now i'm gonna try but i have to restart! :)
[17:30] <bodom> Hello, is there anybody who can help me figure out how to get rid of this dkms error? ERROR (dkms apport): binary package for r8168: 8.028.00 not found
[17:30] <ehidle> Meads: bad cable maybe?
[17:31] <tobago> i added a printer to my ubuntu server via usb. it prints.then i released it using cups. after that i appended the net printer to my local ubuntu client. it found it itself. but printing doesn't append the print job to the servers printer job queue. what more do i have to attend?
[17:31] <nobuu> oCean: no i got those warnings http://pastebin.com/sPFhmrCn i use the default theme
[17:32] <oCean> nobuu: wow, no idea what happened there :(
[17:32] <hmuller> sda: run lsmod in a terminal and look for: sta   I'll bet that's the driver in use.
[17:32] <yeochief> meads: when did you reset your modem last?
[17:32] <oCean> sda: use -k option to lspci:  lspci -k | grep -i network  -A 3
[17:32] <edgy> Infernal: I have to go, is it clear for you now?
[17:32] <oCean> sda: -k will show the driver in use
[17:32] <Infernal> edgy: weird, the USB2 ports are working again... if it works under the the live cd, what do i do next?
[17:32] <Infernal> edgy: fresh install?
[17:33] <edgy> Infernal: you are free then to upgrade your system or do free install or just upgrade your kernel
[17:33] <Meads> It's perfect in windows, does it in linux only, even in a virtual environment inside windows.
[17:33] <sda> oCean, yes i know but i have to restart, now i'm using my personalized kernel with an USB key wifi, i have to because with standard kernel my pc is gonna burn! :D
[17:33] <Infernal> edgy: I see. Thank you for your time :)
[17:33] <nobuu> oCean: in system monitor i can see that the main window of virtualbox has no icon (but if I remember correctly it should have virtualbox logo)
[17:33] <Meads> The connection was only put on 2 weeks a go, I haven't reset the router.
[17:34] <ubuntu-guy> OK ... Now only thing is default plymouth .... will back if i fail again 0_0
[17:34] <sda> oCean, hmuller  i'lllll be back!
[17:34] <edgy> Infernal: your are welcome
[17:34] <hmuller> anyone familiar with the lubuntu distribution?
[17:35] <Meads> yeochief: It's perfect in windows, does it in linux only, even in a virtual environment inside windows.
[17:35] <bazhang> hmuller, yes, and in #lubuntu as well
[17:35] <hmuller> bazhang: I did not get any response in that channel
[17:35] <bazhang> hmuller, whats the question
[17:36] <hmuller> bazhang: I'm a long time linux and ubuntu user, but I cannot seem to get java to work with chromium, can you assist?
[17:37] <yeochief> I run a dual boot system. Usually internet problems show up in Windows not Ubuntu.
[17:37] <sda1986> oCean, hmuller it uses the Kernel modules: wl, brcmsmac
[17:37] <bazhang> hmuller, chromium-browser from the repos? how di d you try to install it?
[17:37] <hmuller> bazhang: chromium-browser comes with a standard install
[17:37] <hmuller> bazhang: it was already there
[17:38] <bazhang> hmuller, and how did you try to install java
[17:38] <hmuller> using synaptic, openjdk jre and jdk and lubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:39] <hmuller> bazhang: using synaptic, openjdk jre and jdk and lubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:39] <bazhang> hmuller, so they install correctly? or is there some use case that is not working out?
[17:40] <geirha> Broc93: Not sure if you got an answer to this yet (I just noticed the highlight). Edit the firefox.desktop file with a regular text editor and change the Exec= line to include the url; e.g. Exec=firefox http://example.com
[17:40] <hmuller> bazhang: they install, chromium shows the plugin in about:plugins, but when I go to the java test page, no luck
[17:45] <Voyack> Hi
[17:45] <Voyack> is there any virtual machine for ubuntu, that i can use to simulate windows?
[17:46] <danyel> Voyack, virtualbox
[17:46] <bazhang> Voyack, vbox
[17:46] <yeochief> quit
[17:46] <DottorLeo> Hi! need a hand for file manager
[17:46] <bazhang> Voyack, you need the windows installer disc of course
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> Voyack  i have win XP in vbox
[17:46] <DottorLeo> is it possible to install nautilus on Lubuntu?
[17:46] <bazhang> DottorLeo, whats the issue
[17:46] <danyel> Voyack, if you just want to use windows programs instead of the whole operating system you can take a look at WINE
[17:47] <DottorLeo> i need the search function integrated on the File manager, PcMan doesn't have it
[17:47] <ssta> DottorLeo: sure, just be aware it will pull in a LOT of depdendencies
[17:47] <DottorLeo> need catfish
[17:47] <DottorLeo> other file manager with search?
[17:47] <Voyack> danyel - program that i need, isn't supported by Wine
[17:47] <Voyack> cause i want to run ArchiCad on ubuntu
[17:47] <danyel> Voyack, then you can use virtualbox
[17:48] <DottorLeo> something...similar to windows 7 file manager
[17:48] <Voyack> k, i'll try :)
[17:48] <Voyack> thanks for quick help :)
[17:48] <DottorLeo> better if has a search box on the top
[17:49] <bazhang> !info catfish | DottorLeo
[17:50] <DottorLeo> yep i've already installed it
[17:50] <DottorLeo> but i'm searching something already integrated on a file manager
[17:51] <brontosaurusrex> how to update the version of flash that chromium is using, again?
[17:51] <LL2|Android> Hmmm
[17:51] <LL2|Android> I want to make my ssh server login as my tf2server user, using sudo
[17:52] <LL2|Android> I think I may have an idea for how to have it automatically run ~/startserv on server boot only
[17:52] <LL2|Android> But I would like it if a bash expert could check if it will work
[17:53] <fbev> neil-tracker
[17:53] <LL2|Android> First though
[17:53] <LL2|Android> I need to ask, will bash.rc run every time a user logs in with the login command?
[17:54] <DottorLeo> !info dolphin
[17:55] <ssta> LL2|Android: .bash_profile will, which depending how it's setup will also call .bashrc.  Interactive shells (non-login shells) call ~/.bashrc only
[17:55] <LL2|Android> So
[17:55] <LL2|Android> Aliases included in bash.rc will set on root login only, assuming that root is the first to login in any session?
[17:56] <LL2|Android> Like, if I have a ls2 alias, will it set only when I first login to ssh?
[17:56] <ssta> LL2|Android: root usually doesn't login on an ubuntu system
[17:57] <LL2|Android> ssta: well, I'm trying to set up my ssh server to login to tf2server using sudo, and autorun ./startserv (or ~/startserv ) on boot ONLY
[17:57] <ssta> LL2|Android: if you want to be sure it's set, add it to ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile
[17:57] <LL2|Android> Well
[17:58] <LL2|Android> The aliases I set up stay set between users
[17:58] <ssta> not usually.  Not unless you put them in /etc
[17:59] <LL2|Android> I set them up in /etc/bash.bashrc
[17:59] <qazokm> is there a way to diff -R, but only for directory names?
[17:59] <ssta> hmm, it's more common to set them per user, in $HOME/.bashrc
[17:59] <LL2|Android> Should I be able to use a env var, the sudo command, and two rc files to run the startserv file on boot only?
[17:59] <LL2|Android> Well
[17:59] <roadfish> Is there an Ubuntu command to force a TCP connection to close? I see an old connection listed in iptstate and I want to force it to close.
[18:00] <llutz> !info cutter | roadfish
[18:00] <kuldeepdhaka> -[18:00] <ssta> LL2|Android: if it were me, I'd put it all in a script and run it from /etc/rc.d.  There are manhy ways to do it though
[18:00] <LL2|Android> As I said, I want to be able to login to the tf2server account myself and be able to edit its files
[18:00] <roadfish> llutz:tnx ... time to start cutting
[18:01] <LL2|Android> ssta: mind pasting me the code to add into files?
[18:01] <oCean> kuldeepdhaka: no need to do that "[18:01] <ssta> LL2|Android: since I don't really understand fully what you need, no, I can't really
[18:01] <LL2|Android> Well
[18:01] <kuldeepdhaka> ocean, how to install ubutnu on thin clients or need os for thin client
[18:01] <LL2|Android> I'll try pastebining the general idea
[18:01] <LL2|Android> And I'll link you to it
[18:02] <kuldeepdhaka> ocean, got only 1gb hdisk ,521mb ram and 1ghz processor
[18:02] <Crell> Hi folks.  I'm on a fresh install of 11.10.  So far so good, but when I try to do anything on the PHP command line I get an error that: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626/sqlite.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20090626/sqlite.so
[18:03] <kuldeepdhaka> ocean, hp is the manuf
[18:03] <Crell> I installed the PHP SQLite package (I need it for other stuff), and that works from the web, but not CLI for some reason.
[18:03] <Crell> Why, and what do I do about it?
[18:03] <LL2|Android> ssta: is there any file I can use to run commands on BOOT ONLY?
[18:03] <llutz> LL2|Android: /etc/rc.local
[18:04] <ssta> LL2|Android: /etc/rc.local
[18:04] <LL2|Android> So, when I login to ssh, it won't run that file?
[18:04] <LL2|Android> Just only on boot?
[18:04] <Somelauw> Could this be a problem? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/557000 If yes, then how to solve it?
[18:04] <ssta> LL2|Android: you can also use the @reboot directive in cron if you prefer
[18:04] <LL2|Android> Ok
[18:04] <kuldeepdhaka> how to install ubutnu on thin clients,need os for thin client,,,, 1gb hdisk,1ghz processor and 512 ram...want to use it for personal use
[18:04] <llutz> ssta: that will be executed everytime you restart crond too
[18:04] <LL2|Android> Ok
[18:05] <LL2|Android> Any command to tell if the program is running or not?
 usb?
[18:05] <llutz> LL2|Android: pgrep "command" || echo does not run
[18:05] <kuldeepdhaka> yes 6 usb ports
[18:05] <Somelauw> I want to update ubuntu by using the update-manager, but I keep getting broken packages. I am not sure but can someone look at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/557000 to see if this could be a problem when trying to upgrade.
[18:05] <Somelauw> ?
[18:05] <ssta> llutz: hmm, I wasn't aware of that.  Is that documented somewhere?
 create disk on key with ubuntu and install it
[18:06] <LL2|Android> Well
[18:06] <llutz> ssta: it is, but ask me where....
[18:06] <kuldeepdhaka> got only 1gb internal hdisk
[18:06] <ssta> I've been using @reboot for years and never noticed that...you live and learn I guess
[18:06] <kuldeepdhaka> ribhoo, got only 1gb internal hdiesk
[18:06]  * ssta tests
[18:06] <LL2|Android> If I use a screen command in the startserv file, I should be able to 'screen -x' to the server console when logged into the tf2server account, right?
[18:06] <LL2|Android> When I use the cron or such
[18:08] <ssta> llutz: I can't reproduce that behaviour....Can you try to find where it's documented for me?  It's interesting
[18:08] <kuldeepdhaka> how to install ubutnu on thin clients,need os for thin client,,,, 1gb hdisk,1ghz processor and 512 ram,6 usb ports...want to use it for personal use
[18:08] <llutz> ssta: some google tells me that there are versions not doing this, like debian-cron. (wikipedia-link...)
[18:08] <ssta> LL2|Android: yes
[18:08] <llutz> ssta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron
[18:08] <Somelauw> Any help please?
[18:08] <ssta> llutz: Ubuntu uses vixie-cron
[18:09] <LL2|Android> Ok
[18:09] <LL2|Android> So I cron the commmand
[18:09] <urfr332gO> Somelauw, give us your problem in the form of a question. :)
[18:09] <LL2|Android> And when I want to access the console, i can just login to the account, and screen -x, right?
[18:10] <psion> hello, I'm trying to apt-get install something, but when I do it says -- The following packages have unmet dependencies: -- boxee : Depends: libxmlrpc-c3 but it is not installable -- note, I'm not even trying to install boxee right now, I battled with it a while back and got it to install, but it still presents that message
[18:10] <psion> how do I tell apt not to worry about it anymore?
[18:10] <ssta> LL2|Android: should be able to, if you get the script right, yes
[18:10] <LL2|Android> Also, on an ssh server, the cron reboot directive won't execute when I login right?
[18:10] <LL2|Android> Just when I boot it up?
[18:10] <ssta> LL2|Android: no, it ought to only execute when you reboot
[18:10] <ssta> hence the name
[18:10] <kuldeepdhaka> *******help**********how to install ubutnu on thin clients,need os for thin client,,,, 1gb hdisk,1ghz processor and 512 ram,6 usb ports...want to use it for personal use***********
[18:11] <urfr332gO> kuldeepdhaka, STOP USING HELP.
[18:11] <ssta> LL2|Android: although as llutz has just pointed out, not all cron implementations are safe that way (vixie cron is, which is what's in Ubuntu) -- some do it on crond restarts too
[18:11] <kuldeepdhaka> how to install ubutnu on thin clients,need os for thin client,,,, 1gb hdisk,1ghz processor and 512 ram,6 usb ports...want to use it for personal use
[18:11] <urfr332gO> kuldeepdhaka, if you have not noticed yet the help pleaworks against you.
[18:12] <salmiak> ichbinder: Yeah I never understood what the files in .pulseaudio/ is for. on is a symlink to a files with pid for pulesaudios deamon, so perhaps it restarted pulseadio for you when you deleted that?
[18:12] <psion> *******help**********I'm stuck in a well and I need someone to dispatch rescue personel. I don't have my phone with me, just a netbook with wifi.**********
[18:12] <llutz> LL2|Android: ssta  simple wrapper script using pgrep to check if the program already runs, will circumevent that
[18:12] <LL2|Android> Basically
[18:12] <psion> it's dark in here
[18:12] <LL2|Android> The crontab will not execute when simply logging into the ssh server, correct?
[18:12] <urfr332gO> !help > psion
[18:12] <ssta> LL2|Android: correct
[18:13] <LL2|Android> Ok
[18:13] <bleavitt> Hello All, I am having an issue with my networking in Ubuntu. My primary interface just seems to stop sending and receiving traffic at random intervals, and then starts up again. Anyone have some suggestions on solutions or troubleshooting ideas?
[18:13] <llutz> LL2|Android: pgrep <yourcommand>||  /path/startwhatever
[18:13] <urfr332gO> !patience > kuldeepdhaka
[18:13] <LL2|Android> So I can't screw myself out of being able to use ssh on the server?
[18:13] <psion> !love > urfr332gO
[18:13] <salmiak> ichbinder:  After I changed the setting in VLC for audio/outputmodules to ALSA sound output and restarted VLC, I got rid of the stuttering at the start of a song. Yes strange but anyway, now the sounds goes to ALSA-emulation in pulseaudio and that gives better sound than to pulsaudio directly? well...
[18:14] <urfr332gO> psion, we all love you to but help is a good way of not actually getting it. :)
[18:14] <LL2|Android> Should I set the crontab to be on the server account, to be safe?
[18:14] <LL2|Android> The tf2server account, I mean
[18:15] <kuldeepdhaka> how to install ubutnu on thin clients,need os for thin client,,,, 1gb hdisk,1ghz processor and 512 ram,6 usb ports...want to use it for personal use
[18:15] <Pici> !ltsp | kuldeepdhaka you mat want to start here
[18:17] <urfr332gO> kuldeepdhaka, if somebocy has a answer you will get it posting the same thing every two minutes is against channel policy, and rude this channel is not just for you.
[18:18] <urfr332gO> kuldeepdhaka, that set up is to small for ubuntu even lubuntu to be honest look at lighter OS.
[18:19] <Bodsda> urfr332gO: depends if all the processing has to be done on the client, if the server can handle some of it, then swapping out unity/Gnome/KDE/etc. for a lightweight WM should be sufficient, something like fluxbox or E7 maybe
[18:20] <salmiak> about VLC btw, I tried to find version 2.0 of VLC for ubuntu10.04, but can't find it anywhere so if anyone knows...  perhaps I should just wait patiently. (I read on some ppa that the problem is vlc2 uses "libbluray (that) requires multiarch-support which is not available for 10.04", so wouldn't it be possible to compile a vlc2 without blueray-support? most people don't have a bluerayplayer anyway).
[18:20] <Bodsda> salmiak: That sounds perfectly logical, have you tried building from source?
[18:21] <LL2|Android> llutz: so what would I use to add a crontab that runs /home/tf2server/startserv as the account tf2server, on every reboot?
[18:21] <llutz> LL2|Android: man 5 crontab
[18:21] <bleavitt> Does anyone have a second to help me troubleshoot a network issue? One of my interfaces intermitantly stops sending or receiving packets, and then a few minutes later starts back up. This happens randomly, but often every 30 minutes.
[18:22] <urfr332gO> Bodsda, that would be for a user who has any sense look at this users history of posting. :)
[18:22] <salmiak> Bodsda: I'm a little afraid of trying.... my latest try at compiling stuff didn't end so well... lots of tries and tries to understand what to do, and in the end no result.... so perhaps I'm not the best person at compiling things
[18:23] <Bodsda> urfr332gO: human stupidity offends me :)
[18:24] <urfr332gO> Bodsda, lol you wont like it here.
[18:24] <Bodsda> salmiak: some builds can be very frustrating, but in my experience, the instructions are usually pretty good, and most things boil down to 'cd build_dir && ./configure && make && sudo make install'
[18:24] <Bodsda> urfr332gO: I've been here a long time :) It's remarkably quiet today though
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> Bodsda  that is good news: few problems :)
[18:26] <nobitanobi> I do a lot a particular command in the console (cd /Projects/finance/myfinances) - I've tried adding a line in bashrc to have a shortcut, but it's not working. Here is what I tried: alias myfinanceproject= 'cd /home/novito/Projects/finance/myfinances' - What am I doing wrong?
[18:26] <Bodsda> MonkeyDust: true true
[18:26] <urfr332gO> Bodsda, it is the weekend the kids are picnicking withe their big picnic basket basket with their parents.
[18:26] <ribhoo> !alias
[18:26] <Bodsda> urfr332gO: people still have picnics?
[18:26] <tsimpson> nobitanobi: it would help if you describe what exactly "not working" means
[18:26] <LL2|Android> Ummm
[18:26] <LL2|Android> How do I exit man
[18:26] <oCean> urfr332gO: Bodsda, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[18:27] <LL2|Android> Nvm
[18:27] <Bodsda> LL2|Android: press q
[18:27] <nobitanobi> tsimpson: Sorry. When I type myfinanceprojects, the command is not executed
[18:27] <Bodsda> nobitanobi: any errors?
[18:27] <LL2|Android> Ok
[18:27] <salmiak> Bodsda: yes when there is no problems the world is wonderful. :-D  Perhaps I should give it a try... anyone knows the webaddress to "Compiling VLC 2.0 in ubuntu10.04 for dummies"?
[18:28] <nobitanobi> yes. Bodsda: it says "the /path" is a directory
[18:28] <Bodsda> salmiak: find the vlc project homepage, download the source tarball, extract it, read the README file
[18:29] <llutz> nobitanobi: "ls -ld /home/novito/Projects/finance/myfinances"
[18:29] <urfr332gO> oCean, no problem my bad. :)
[18:30] <nobitanobi> llutz drwxr-xr-x 15 novito novito 4096 2012-02-22 11:47 /home/novito/Projectes/finance/myfinances
[18:31] <Bodsda> nobitanobi: does the exact command work correctly if you copy and paste it?
[18:31] <nobitanobi> yes
[18:31] <Bodsda> nobitanobi: try adding a trailing /
[18:32] <nobitanobi> ok
[18:33] <llutz> nobitanobi: "...When I type myfinanceprojects..."  typo?  what does "alias myfinanceproject"  say
[18:33] <nobitanobi> is not a typo, I wrote it wrong here
[18:33] <nobitanobi> let me log out for the changes on bashrc be applied
[18:34] <bastidrazor> nobitanobi: you don't need to log out. just source ~/.bashrc
[18:34] <zykotick9> llutz: are you running "source .bashrc" after making your changes?
[18:34] <Bodsda> you could just close the terminal??
[18:34] <greenit> hi, does any1 know how i can get the creation-date of a file with the command "find" ? i want to cp a file from a specific date into a directory
[18:34] <llutz> greenit: you cannot, theres no such info on ext-fs (yet)
[18:34] <nobitanobi> ok. Adding the "/" at the end
[18:34] <nobitanobi> solved the problem
[18:34] <nobitanobi> thanks guys
[18:34] <Bodsda> greenit: theres no such thing logged
[18:34] <greenit> damn
[18:34] <Bodsda> nobitanobi: no problem
[18:35] <Somelauw> urfr332gO: I want to update ubuntu by using the update-manager, but I keep getting broken packages. I am not sure but can someone look at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/557000 to see if this could be a problem when trying to upgrade?
[18:35] <greenit> but "ls -al" shows the date of creation... or at least the date of last edited
[18:35] <Bodsda> greenit: last modified
[18:35] <llutz> greenit:last modified or last changed, but never created
[18:36] <greenit> Bodsda, ok, can i get files with this date with the command find?
[18:36] <llutz> (unless you never touched that file)
[18:36] <Bodsda> greenit: pass, probably
[18:36] <greenit> Bodsda, do you know how?
[18:37] <urfr332gO> Somelauw, install synaptic and look in the broken package filter
[18:37] <Bodsda> greenit: no, thats what I meant by pass, sorry
[18:37] <greenit> Bodsda, oh, k
[18:37] <kapz> Hi all! I know this is not vlc forum but I will much appreciate helpful answers...in VLC player can I put option/plugin to save the last state of the file played,,2nd : can I adjust reverse/forward jumps according to my like, kind of like in smplayer? Thanks
[18:38] <Bodsda> greenit: plenty of info from third line support though - http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=find+files+based+on+modified+date+linux&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
, can't <greenit> do it with ls -l?
[18:38] <mobbdeep> hello, what byte size can i use in ping command to test network connection
[18:38] <Bodsda> mobbdeep: the default is 64
[18:39] <Somelauw> urfr332gO: That filter is completely empty.
[18:39] <mobbdeep> Bodsa, yes, but to check beetter peckets losts, what to use
[18:39] <greenit> ribhoo, nope, this commands shows "xyz files" at the beginning, i tried it alrdy
[18:39] <mobbdeep> packets lossing
[18:39] <Bodsda> ribhoo: not unless ls can filter it based on the date. If you piped it through grep you might be able to, but he sai he wanted to use find
[18:39] <urfr332gO> Somelauw, thats my best idea, good luck. ;)
[18:40] <roadfish> how to I remove stale entries in /proc/net/ip_conntrack ?
, so he can do it with ls and grep :)
[18:40] <mobbdeep> This connection is sending to much flood and my router is going off
[18:40] <Bodsda> mobbdeep: changing the packet size isn't going to affect packet loss figures very significantly unless you have an unbelievably tight bandwidth issue
[18:41] <escott> Bodsda, there are some broken routers that will drop packets larger than certain sizes
[18:41] <Bodsda> ribhoo: hhmm, no actually, thinking about it. grep would be able to get you files modified 'on a date' but not before or after, because it is interpreting it as a string, you wouldnt be able to do anything fancy with the date
[18:41] <Bodsda> escott: such as?
[18:43] <Halexander9000> Hey, whenever I run the Update Manager and tell it to check for updates, I get this error http://pastebin.com/w5bfbG1N
[18:43] <Halexander9000> Can I solve it somehow?
[18:44] <Halexander9000> Could someone please tell me how to do it?
[18:44] <sergiu> why the skype is so old for linux
[18:44] <sergiu> :D
[18:44] <Bodsda> Halexander9000: are you using any ppa's from statux.org?
[18:45] <Bodsda> sergiu: you think microsoft will update it?
[18:45] <sergiu> oh, forget that its owned by microsaoft now)
, try this: touch --date='mm/dd/yy hh:mm' /tmp/stamp$$
[18:45] <ribhoo> find /folder -newer /tmp/stamp$$
[18:45] <ribhoo> rm -f /tmp/stamp$$
[18:45] <ichbinder> salmiak: hm... as I said, after deleting ~/.pulse/, I haven't had any lags so far
[18:45] <ssta> sergiu: to be fair to MS, it wasn't updated for a LONG time before MS bought skype either
[18:45] <Halexander9000> Bodsda: I don't think I understand you. But "once upon a time" I had another problem, and someone told me to add some servers to my list of software providers.
[18:46] <ichbinder> sergiu: that and because the old skype version was better... ;)
[18:46] <greenit> ribhoo, i do not know if this solves my problem of sorting files which i made a year before into some directories....
[18:47] <Bodsda> Halexander9000: can you paste the output of this command please - 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list'
[18:48] <llutz> greenit: the find example from http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-osxfind-files-by-date/  might help
[18:50] <zelhar> Hello. I have a new seagate hard drive which uses 4096 bytes per sector, and the disk utility tells me the partition is misaligned and it may result in poor performance. Is that ture ? if so what should I do ?
[18:53] <kapz> Hi all! I know this is not vlc forum but I will much appreciate helpful answers...in VLC player can I put option/plugin to save the last state of the file played,,2nd : can I adjust reverse/forward jumps according to my like, kind of like in smplayer? Thanks
[18:55] <zelhar> any help ?
[18:55] <Halexander9000> Bodsda: http://pastebin.com/tTjprW0H
[18:55] <Somelauw> I think I found the problem. I made a deb myself and installed it. Is there a way to deinstall that deb again? I can show you how I build the deb.
[18:56] <zykotick9> Bodsda: PPAs aren't included in sources.list BTW
[18:56] <greenit> llutz, ok, that helps, but how can i cp the found files into a directory?
[18:56] <llutz> greenit: man find,  find ...... -exec cp {} /new/path/ \;
[18:57] <greenit> llutz, thx
[18:58] <llutz> greenit: "{}"  if you have filenames with spaces
[18:58] <greenit> llutz, erm... it says find: missing argument for -exec
[18:59] <llutz> greenit: whats your exact command?
[18:59] <greenit> llutz, nvm, forgot \; at the end^^
[18:59] <greenit> llutz, thx a lot :)
[18:59] <Dr_willis> zelhar,  theres a lot of hits and discussion about that on the forums and askubuntu - someone asked about it in here the other day. but i dident see a definitive answer.
[19:00] <llutz> greenit: np
[19:00] <Oer> Somelauw, if you build a deb, you can also make uninstall ( afaik )
[19:00] <Dr_willis> zelhar,  the operative word is 'may result' - i never saw any actual benchmarks
[19:00] <Bodsda> zykotick9: really? is that a new change?
[19:00] <Dr_willis> zykotick9,  the trend has been to move extra repos to the sources.list.d directory
[19:00] <Dr_willis> leave your sources.list nice and clean. :)
[19:01] <Somelauw> Oer: I still need to find a safe way to install third-party software. deb's and ppa's only give problems and the official repositories don't have all software and are sometimes outdated.
[19:01] <zykotick9> Bodsda: no, PPAs are in /etc/apt/source.list.d i believe - but in this case - sources.list did show the repo you're intersted in ;)
[19:01] <rethus> i'd like to install vlc 2.0, but didn't get it in the packagemanager on 10.10 - even if the "universe" repos are activated. any idea why
[19:01] <xangua> !latest | rethus
[19:01] <Somelauw> But I got it to upgrade eventually.
[19:01] <Dr_willis> rethus,  theres some guides on installing vlc 2 at the webupd8 blog site.
[19:01] <Dr_willis> rethus,  you will need to add the proper ppa's i imagine.
[19:02] <zelhar> Well Dr thanks for your reply. I suppose I will see for my self if performance lags.
[19:02] <rethus> have you a link for me
[19:02] <Bodsda> zykotick9: ah :) - I didn't see the reply, can you tell whoever it was to delete the offending lines for me? I need to go afk
[19:02] <Dr_willis> rethus,  and for 10.10 - its possible its not been ported/made to a ppa yet. since most people use the latest,  or LTS. not in between versions.
[19:02] <Dr_willis> rethus,  check out the webupd8 blog site. I havent bothered to test vlc 2 in linux yet.
[19:02] <rethus> i specialy upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 for vlc - and now this
[19:03] <rethus> on 10.4 i only got 1.9
[19:03] <rethus> realy strange, that 2.0 is signed on the vlc-page, but nowhere to download
[19:03] <Dr_willis> rethus, I got it on windows. :) but not linux yet. theres ppas for it for 11.10 i belive.
[19:04] <Dr_willis> you normally dont just download apps from their homepages for linux/ubuntu. you use the package manager/ppas
[19:04] <Oer> rethus, wait for 12.04 or see webupd8. i think it will not appear in 11.10
[19:04] <Dr_willis> sometimes a site has a .deb but thats a bit rare.
[19:04] <salmiak> rethus: for ubuntu10.04 the latest I found is 1.1.13 (at https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/vlc2 ), are ther a 1.9 somewhere?
[19:04] <skyball> installed ubuntu all i have is a black screan?
[19:04] <rethus> what is this webupd8
[19:04] <rethus> have you a link
[19:04] <skyball> nowhere to type nothing
[19:04] <Dr_willis> rethus,  type it in your browser...
[19:05] <rethus> salmiak: jey i had 1.9
[19:05] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | skyball
[19:05] <rethus> but eachtime i start a avi-file, he try to rebuild the file. therefor i'd like to try 2.0
[19:06] <rethus> whats that "webupd8" can somebody explain? or send a link
[19:06] <Oer> rethus, what makes you think VLC cause this behaviour ?
[19:06] <Dr_willis> rethus,  its a web site.. type it in your browser..
[19:06] <dlentz> rethus, google...
[19:06] <salmiak> rethus: perhaps I should get that, while waiting for 2.0 (I don't want to least ubuntu10.04), have a link, or was that a compile-by-yourself ?
[19:06] <salmiak> rethus: webupd8 is probable some ppa somewhere, with vlc 2.0 ?
[19:07] <Dr_willis> webupd8 and omgubuntu are two of the main ubuntu blog sites i read.
[19:07] <rethus> it was out of the repos of natty
[19:08] <rethus> no results for vlc2 on webupd8
[19:09] <Ignisss> Guys ive got a clean ubuntu 10.04lts install on a pc with a mainboard with the ck804 audio chip but ive got no audio at all, ive followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting but it still doesnt work, anyone has any idea? Ive also made a post here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/188890 in wich the results of aplay -l and lspci are posted and also posted
[19:09] <Ignisss> them http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11719125&postcount=39 here
[19:09] <dlentz> then try an ubuntu 12.04 liveusb
[19:09] <rethus> thats realy sucks. from 10.04 and vlc 1.9 to 10.10 and 1.1.12 :(
[19:09] <NewWorld> rethus:  hahaha, wth?!
[19:09] <dlentz> rethus, it's 1.1.9
[19:10] <L551> Can someone tell me why dbus-daemon is using so much CPU?
[19:10] <dlentz> or probably 1.0.9
[19:10] <rethus> realy ?
[19:10] <Dr_willis> "Unfortunately, there's no stable VLC PPA for older Ubuntu versions."
[19:10] <dlentz> it didn't downgrade..
[19:10] <Dr_willis> rethus,  there are at least 2 posts about vlc2 there.. one on the front page.
[19:10] <ribhoo> rethus>, on 10.04 by default its 1.0.6
[19:10] <Dr_willis> 11.10 is needed for vlc2 at this time it seems
[19:10] <rethus> i wonder why vlc-webpage sign for 2.0 if no 2.0 is installable on ubuntu
[19:11] <LL2|Android> Ok
[19:11] <Dr_willis> rethus,  it IS avilable for ubuntu.
[19:11] <LL2|Android> I got it running
[19:11] <theadmin> rethus: There is a 2.0 PPA...
[19:11] <LL2|Android> I ended up just using root crontab instead of tf2server crontab
[19:11] <rethus> which repositorie?
[19:11] <rethus> i have universe activated. no 2.0
[19:11] <LL2|Android> Though I use sudo to make it use the tf2server account without passworf
[19:11] <Dr_willis> rethus,  its for 11.10+ only... in a speical PPA. not the normal repos.
[19:11] <LL2|Android> *password
[19:11] <theadmin> rethus: Not in the official... It's a PPA
[19:12] <Dr_willis> very cleary stated   http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/install-vlc-20-in-ubuntu-1110-oneiric.html
[19:12] <rethus> which ppa-url?
[19:13] <Dr_willis> rethus,  are you using 11.10?
[19:13] <llutz> LL2|Android: use /etc/crontab with "tf2server" in the "user" field (6th)
[19:13] <rethus> jes
[19:13] <Dr_willis> then read/follow the directions given at the page above.
[19:13] <Dr_willis> i thought you said you had 10.10 earlier..
[19:14] <LL2|Android> llutz
[19:14] <LL2|Android> Want me to pm you what I used?
[19:14] <llutz> LL2|Android: nope
[19:14] <rethus> i upgraded to newest version before 10 minutes
[19:14] <ssta> rethus: 1.1.12 was the very latest vlc when 11.10 released.  I was about a week or so old at the time is all
[19:14] <LL2|Android> Lol I did anyway
[19:15] <rethus> the ocelot-thing
[19:15] <ssta> s/I/It/
[19:15] <rethus> yes, but which ppa have i to add to get 2.0
[19:15] <llutz> !pm | LL2|Android don't pm me, i don't read it
[19:16] <LL2|Android> Well
[19:16] <stroxis> is there any way to mount drives using ssh?
[19:16] <wildcard> Yo people, have a very odd question, but here goes.
[19:16] <ssta> stroxis: sshfs ?
[19:16] <LL2|Android> It was something that could be bad to say publically
[19:16] <stroxis> ssta: mount it on the remote coumputer
[19:16] <rethus> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/install-vlc-20-in-ubuntu-1110-oneiric.html
[19:17] <wildcard> My hard drive failed a while back, and I have installed Ubuntu 11.10 on a flash drive for a temporary fix.  I now have a new hard drive, and lost my install disk.  Is tehre  a way I can partition/install Ubuntu from the flash drive?
[19:17] <rethus> have one thing to say aout webupd8 - the search-functions are not realy good on this page
[19:17] <ssta> stroxis: umm, not that I'm aware of, no.  Although if you have a shell on the remote computer you could go to that and do it
[19:17] <ribhoo> !ru | ribhoo
[19:17] <dlentz> rethus, yes, now run the terminal commands there (in pink) and you'll have vlc 2.0
[19:17] <LL2|Android> Wildcard: copy the files over?
[19:17] <ribhoo> !heb | ribhoo
[19:17] <wildcard> Can I use Gparted to reformat the Hard drive from the flash drive?
[19:17] <theadmin> wildcard: Sure
[19:18] <ribhoo> !isr | ribhoo
[19:18] <Dr_willis> typed 'vlc' into the search area.. and it was the #2 hit.... for vlc 2.0
[19:18] <michu1972> jak przyspieszyć unity
[19:18] <Pici> !pl | michu1972
[19:18] <ribhoo> hm... no hebrew channel for ubuntu?
[19:18] <Dr_willis> so webupd8's search function seems to be fine.
[19:18] <Pici> !il | ribhoo
[19:18] <kapz> !ppa
[19:18] <Guest93546> has anyone gotten openldap work on a flashdrive?
[19:19] <bazhang> ribhoo, #ubuntu-il
[19:19] <kapz> !ppa
[19:19] <Dr_willis> VLSUB is a neat addon for vlc2.  :) can find subtitles for the video you are watching.
[19:20] <kapz> !backports
[19:20] <kapz> !packaging
[19:20] <bazhang> kapz, /msg ubottu please
[19:20] <dlentz> kapz, please pm the bot
[19:20] <dlentz> some people..
[19:21] <comissarcube> Hi, guys! Could someone please help me a wee bit? I installed fglrx for my ATI card. Games now work well, but when I play videos in full screen they lag massively. Anyone got any suggestions?
[19:21] <Dr_willis> comissarcube,  what kind of videos? you mean flash in the browser?
[19:22] <comissarcube> yes precisely, sorry for not specifying
[19:22] <arunkumar413> hi, i just now installed mint 12 and trying to update but the update is very slow. My internet connection is very fast. what is the reason
[19:22] <aeon-ltd> !mint | arunkumar413
[19:22] <bazhang> arunkumar413, ask in mint support channels then
[19:22] <daswort> How to set up wakealarm for monday - friday? Cron doesn't work for that :-(
[19:23] <CharminTheMoose> What derivitives of ubuntu does this channel support?
[19:23] <ssta> In general most canonical supported ones
[19:23] <llutz> daswort:  00 05 * * 1-5 whatever to do
[19:23] <urfr332gO> CharminTheMoose, only ubuntu release 4 desktops in all.
[19:23] <Dr_willis> The Officially Canonical Supported ones.. :)
[19:24] <Dr_willis> Does Lubuntu count now a days or not? its sortof the little kid in the corner.
[19:24] <comissarcube> Dr_willis, yeah, flash in browser.
[19:24] <CharminTheMoose> Hmm interesting.
[19:24] <Dr_willis> comissarcube,  flash is a nasty beast. there may be some work arounds.. but i dont know of any.
[19:24] <ssta> Dr_willis: I'd say it counted
[19:24] <daswort> llutz, but then the computer need to start to set up wakealarm. Isn't it possible to set up this in wakealarm?
[19:24] <dlentz> Dr_willis, unless it's an lxde-specific question, this channel would probably work fine
[19:25] <CharminTheMoose> Anyway, I've got a webcam built into this laptop, what commands can I use to see what it is and thus load a driver for it? I got the webcam working fine with cheese before, but I can't recall how I did it.
[19:26] <dlentz> comissarcube, i've had success with flashvideoreplacer add-on (as long as videos play well in a native video player)
[19:26] <danyel> CharminTheMoose, you can try lsusb
[19:27] <comissarcube> dlentz, yeah that was ok, will take a look. Thanks!
[19:27] <darrenlooby> HI guys, I'm using Ubuntu on Rackspace - and it has both internal and external network cards. The internal network cards start with 10.xxx.xxx.xx - any externals never do. How can I use "ufw" to only accept connections from internal ips?
[19:27] <CharminTheMoose> danyel, all I get are Root hub usb and the card reader built into the lappy.
[19:27] <CharminTheMoose> dmesg and grepping for video or webcam turns up nothing either
[19:28] <Halexander9000> Hey, whenever I run the Update Manager and tell it to check for updates, I get this error http://pastebin.com/w5bfbG1N
[19:28] <Halexander9000> Can I solve it somehow?
[19:28] <Halexander9000> Could someone please tell me how to do it?
[19:29] <maujhsn> Does anybody know why mount points change from "/devsdb" to /dev/cdrom when booting from a liveUSB?
[19:29] <okum> hi, does anybody know if recordMyDesktop record audio from a mic?
[19:30] <maujhsn> okum Yes
[19:30] <TehSpecialOne> hi buddies!
[19:30] <okum> maujhsn: does it just record by default?
[19:30] <Oer> Halexander9000, i never seen the entry's with www.statux.org/
[19:30] <pyboy> Halexander9000 did you google the problem
[19:31] <maujhsn> okum I would use the pulseaudio server!
[19:31] <Halexander9000> http://www.statux.org/ ?
[19:32] <okum> maujhsn: what exactly is that?
[19:32] <maujhsn> Does anybody know why mount points change from "/devsdb" to /dev/cdrom when booting from a liveUSB?
[19:32] <Dr_willis> maujhsn,  those are device names. not mountpoints.  and often /dev/cdrom is a link to /dev/sdX
[19:32] <Dr_willis>  /media/whatever are mountpoints
[19:33] <Oer> Halexander9000, please paste your sources list >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:33] <maujhsn> Dr_willis Good hearing from you again!
[19:33] <skyball> why does the screen flash purple?  and why can't I just push 1 button to fix it?
[19:34] <darrenlooby> Anyone good with IP tables - or UFW?
[19:34] <xangua> Halexander9000: what Oer tried to say is that line doesn't look like an apt valid repository, so whatever you tried to do addin that line, undo it
[19:34] <theadmin> Dr_willis: /dev/cdrom is *never* a link to /dev/sdx, that'd be insane, it's commonly a link to /dev/sr0
[19:34] <maujhsn> okum If you do not have the Pulseaudio server installed I will not be able to help you sorry!
[19:34] <tyro> whats up?
[19:34] <Halexander9000> I did a cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:34] <Halexander9000> And this is what I got cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:34] <Halexander9000> Um, hold on.;
[19:34] <tyro> whats a good theme to use in ubuntu?
[19:34] <urfr332gO> !pastebin
[19:34] <Halexander9000> http://pastebin.com/tTjprW0H
[19:34] <Oer> xangua i am not sure it is not valid, that is why i like to compare
[19:34] <urfr332gO> Halexander9000, ^^^^
[19:34] <Dr_willis> theadmin,  i recall seeing some of my machines that use sr0 and others that use sdd or sdc - it may be differnt under newer kenels. but i have definatly seen it.
[19:35] <theadmin> Dr_willis: Crazy... I never had cdroms as sdX...
[19:35] <theadmin> Dr_willis: Weird. Oh well.
[19:35] <Halexander9000> What do I need to remove?
[19:35] <Dr_willis> theadmin,  it may be the old IDE cdroms
[19:35] <pyboy> Halexander9000 did you have any broken packages
[19:35] <Dr_willis> theadmin,  ages ago there was no sr0  I recall :) they were all sdXX
[19:35] <Halexander9000> What do you mean pyboy?
[19:35] <theadmin> Dr_willis: Ah... I didn't work with IDE devices for ages so yeah, would make sense
[19:35] <Dr_willis> then again i rember hd# also.
[19:36] <Ady> how to extract and install .dmg file?
[19:36] <Halexander9000> I got this message "Failed to download repository information/Check your Internet connection."
[19:36] <pyboy> Halexander9000 http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-common-gnome-3-issues-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty.html
[19:36] <theadmin> Ady: You can't, this isn't OS X
[19:36] <Dr_willis> i also recall when you were never sure if your HD was sdX or hdx :) formated the wrong disk once because of that.
[19:36] <wildcard> I just used Gparted from my flashdrive ubuntu 11.10, and reformatted my internal harddrive.  It says that 79.00 MiB were being used, does this mean that windows is still attach or is that just the bios?
[19:36] <ssta> Ady: .dmg is generally an OS X package
[19:36] <Ady> theadmin, oh ok ty
[19:36] <Oer> Halexander9000, oke here is the solution
[19:36] <Halexander9000> Pyboy, what are you talking about?
[19:36] <maujhsn> dr_willis My beef is this; I plug my usb into the same port religiuosly. The output in the Disk Utility use to read /dev/sdb now it reads /dev/cdrom why is that the case?
[19:36] <Dr_willis> Ady,  theres dmg to iso converters i recall. but that wont let you 'run' anything for os-x. just access the data.
[19:37] <Dr_willis> maujhsn,  perhaps a messed up link. i rarely use disk utility.
[19:37] <Dr_willis> maujhsn,  check dmesg command output. I HAVE seen some weird usb flash drives that are partioned where they show up as a cdrom and a usb hard disk.
[19:38] <Misha[]> Hey
[19:38] <Oer> Halexander9000, all you need is to get the pgp key >>" wget -q http://www.statux.org/ubuntu/key/statux.pub -O- | sudo apt-key add - " found at answer #3 >> http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20091110101016812&SLanguage=en-us&board_id=20&model=Eee%20PC%201005HA&page=1
[19:38] <Dr_willis> I think it was those 'U3' flash drives that were popular a few years back.
[19:38] <maujhsn> dr_willis What can I do to force the device output to read /dev/sdb?
[19:38] <Dr_willis> maujhsn,  see what 'sudo fdisk -l' says about the disk.
[19:38] <maujhsn> OK
[19:39] <Dr_willis> maujhsn,  also a simple removal/reinsertion may let it rescan
[19:39] <maujhsn> dr_willis I should have thought about dmesg thanks! i check it out!
[19:39] <Misha[]> I have a problem with my webcam, its works on skype and on programs like cheese as well, but when I'm entering some site that uses flash to use my webcam, flash isn't see my webcam
[19:39] <Misha[]> any help?
[19:39] <Halexander9000> Oer, you're going to have to be a little more clear. You're saying I just need to type this " wget -q http://www.statux.org/ubuntu/key/statux.pub -O- | sudo apt-key add - " in terminal and it will solve the issue?
[19:39] <okum> hello, does anybody know how to enable compizconfig setting in ubuntu 11.10 w/ gnome classic?
[19:40] <okum> ^ like wobbly windows, etc?
[19:40] <Oer> Halexander9000, correct, then you perform update && upgrade
[19:41] <rich> hello
[19:41] <Halexander9000> Oer: Is it supposed to freeze?
[19:41] <Halexander9000> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[19:41] <okum> someones HAS to know how to enable features with compizconfig in ubuntu 11.10?
[19:41] <Oer> Halexander9000, yes, getting a key can take 10 sec
[19:41] <Halexander9000> Oer: gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[19:41] <Dr_willis> okum,  may be a guide at askubuntu.com
[19:42] <Dr_willis> okum,  or the webupd8 blog site.
[19:42] <Dr_willis> okum,  or try a 'compiz --replace' in a terminal..
[19:42] <bazhang> okum, try in #compiz yet ?
[19:42] <Oer> Halexander9000, maybe the archiv is out of date, if found only old posts.
[19:42] <Misha[]> I have a problem with my webcam, its works on skype and on programs like cheese as well, but when I'm entering some site that uses flash to use my webcam, flash isn't see my webcam
[19:43] <urfr332gO> okum, Dr_willis http://askubuntu.com/questions/68711/how-do-i-enable-compiz-in-gnome-classic
[19:43] <Halexander9000> Oer, can I remove the conflicting entries then?
[19:44] <Oer> Halexander9000, yes, use sudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:44] <bastidrazor> Oer: graphical applications should use gksudo
[19:44] <xangua> !gksu | Oer Halexander9000
[19:44] <Oer> true, my bad
[19:45] <Halexander9000> Alright, so what am I looking for here?
[19:46] <Oer> Halexander9000, see the end, remove the last 2 entries.
[19:46] <mongy> what version is the latest stable google chrome?  Just comparing what is in the ubuntu repo (chromium)
[19:46] <theadmin> mongy: 17.0.963.56
[19:47] <theadmin> mongy: Ubuntu uses the same Chromium versions as stable Chrome releases if I recall right.
[19:47] <mongy> theadmin: well that's the thing, I think ubuntu might be a bit behind.. lemme check something
[19:48] <skyball> why does the screen flash purple?
[19:48] <LimerickLarry> Question: what part of the ubuntu kernel handles keyboard input?
[19:48] <Halexander9000> Oer: Problem Solved.
[19:49] <Oer> Halexander9000, have fun
[19:49] <theadmin> LimerickLarry: Might be a question for #ubuntu-devel
[19:49] <ikonia> theadmin: #ubuntu-devel does not do support
[19:49] <Halexander9000> Oer: Thanks.
[19:49] <ikonia> LimerickLarry: what's the actual problem you are having
[19:49] <theadmin> ikonia: Yeah but this kind of a question... Only a developer would ask that, no?
[19:50] <ikonia> theadmin: or a user who doesn't know what they are asking
[19:50] <theadmin> ikonia: Heh... indeed xD
[19:50] <ikonia> theadmin: ubuntu-devel is for the development of ubuntu disicussion, eg: packages, versions, etc,
[19:50] <mysticdarkhack> Hey all, can anyone tell me where the logo next to ubuntu main menu applications is located please, and thank you in advacne for your asist.
[19:50] <ssta> LimerickLarry: the same as any other kernel's code
[19:50] <ikonia> LimerickLarry: what's the actual problem / issue you are having
[19:51] <mysticdarkhack> logo image directory
[19:51] <LimerickLarry> ikonia: There appears to be a caps lock delay under Ubuntu.
[19:51] <LimerickLarry> ikonia: and by delay, I mean it looks like caps lock toggles on keyUp rather than keyDown.
[19:51] <ssta> LimerickLarry: not here there isn't
[19:51] <ikonia> LimerickLarry ok - I don't have that issue
[19:51] <LjL> LimerickLarry: not for me, if i keep Caps Lock pressed, it already takes effect...
[19:51] <ikonia> LimerickLarry: are you using X11 ?
[19:52] <ikonia> LimerickLarry: as in a desktop gui ?
[19:52] <mysticdarkhack> anyone?
[19:52] <LimerickLarry> ikonia: i'm not sure
[19:52] <ikonia> !anyone > mysticdarkhack
[19:52] <LimerickLarry> ikonia: yes.
[19:52] <ikonia> LimerickLarry: do you have a gui on your screen ?
[19:52] <Oer> mysticdarkhack, if you point at dash home icon > http://askubuntu.com/questions/68612/how-to-change-the-dash-icon-in-the-unity-launcher
[19:53] <ikonia> LimerickLarry: ok, so, it's more likley your X11 session is not quite setup/working well at the moment rather than the kernel
[19:53] <ikonia> LimerickLarry: in future, if you explain your problem, rather than asking what you think is the problem area, people will be able to help y ou better, eg: you won't waste yours and other peoples time talking about the wrong thing
[19:53] <LimerickLarry> ikonia: I've reproduced this on two different machines, so it's not isolated to me.
[19:53] <ikonia> LimerickLarry: well, 3 people are not having the problem, so it's not everyone either
[19:53] <ikonia> LimerickLarry: what do those machines have in common ?
[19:54] <Bodsda> user... :)
[19:54] <LimerickLarry> ikonia: they both run ubuntu, i'm not sure which version the second one uses.
[19:54]  * benoliver999 is gone: To the shops!
[19:54] <LimerickLarry> ikonia: entirely different hardware, one's a laptop and one is not.
[19:54] <mysticdarkhack> Thanks oer!
[19:54] <LjL> !away > benoliver999
[19:54] <ikonia> LimerickLarry: ok, break the components down a bit, video drivers, chipset, etc
[19:55] <cal_> getting deboostrap read erors when ubuntu server 11.10 tries to install the base. but when i verify the disk from the main menu, says everything is okay..?
[19:56] <Nima> I used the wubi install and installed Ubuntu as an application because the traditional dual boot from a CD let to a black screen. The install was fine, but when I get to the dual boot option, my keyboard (RAZR black widow) is completely unresponsive so it just boots to windows on default.
[19:56] <Nima> Suggestions?
[19:56] <LimerickLarry> ikonia: the one i currently have access to is a thinkpad x200 tablet: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/laptops/thinkpad/x-series-tablet/x200tablet
[19:56] <LimerickLarry> ikonia: still looking for information on it
[19:56] <LimerickLarry> ikonia: the other is a lab machine, i have no idea what's inside it
[19:56] <ikonia> LimerickLarry: ok, so that's something worth doing, check the components and softwaare product versions they are using
[19:57] <nathansuchy> hello
[19:57] <nathansuchy> chating from ubuntu
[19:57] <escott> Nima, you probably need to go into your bios and enable the usb keyboard. also if you only issue with the normal install was !nomodeset I'm not sure installing wubi will fix that
[19:58] <nathansuchy> so cool
[19:58] <nathansuchy> check out my website www.nathanlive.com
[19:58] <nathansuchy> and talk to me on #nathanlive
[19:58] <Bodsda> nathansuchy: This is a support channel, not offtopic chat
[19:58] <nathansuchy> ok sorry
[19:58] <Bodsda> thanks, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:58] <nathansuchy> where is an offtopic chat channel
[19:59] <Dr_willis> Dont you hate it when you get somthing working once.. then come back a few hrs later and cant repeate the process..
[19:59] <Nima> escott, Thanks, I'l give it a go and will be back
[20:00] <Dr_willis> Trying to record a section of the desktop with gtk-recordmydesktop, and aparently you have to use jackd to get it to record  the audio. Got it working..  recorded 2 hrs of stuff.. cant get it to do it now. :)
[20:00] <derpladee> hey i have a weird problem
[20:00] <derpladee> i have a file that a program keeps overwriting
[20:00] <derpladee> i want it to stop doing that so i make it root owner and root group
[20:00] <derpladee> and make it read only
[20:01] <Bodsda> you have an enter obsession as well#
[20:01] <derpladee> sorry
[20:02] <derpladee> i have a weird problem, i have a file that a program keeps overwriting. i tried to make the file root owner and root group and read only but the program, even though it doesn't run root level, still deletes the file and writes a new one.
[20:02] <derpladee> anybody know how to prevent a file from being deleted/written by any user other than root?
[20:02] <Dr_willis> derpladee,  what file exactly?
[20:02] <aceman> quit
[20:03] <ssta> derpladee: if the process has write access to the directory the file is in, it will be able to delete it
[20:03] <derpladee> it's a .sol file
[20:03] <theadmin> derpladee: sudo chown root:root filename && sudo chmod 644 filename
[20:04] <derpladee> hmm okay so if i make the director root user and root group, then it shouldn't be able to do anything?
[20:04] <ssta> being allowed to delete a file is a directory permission, NOT a file permission
[20:04] <derpladee> ah
[20:04] <derpladee> okay i'll try that
[20:04] <ssta> since deleting the file is actually writing to the directory, not the file
[20:07] <Oer> derpladee, where did you find this, afaik .sol files are used by flash to save its own cookie (the SharedObjects).
[20:07] <dougl> when ever I am connected to my home net w/vpn my firefox fails to lookup sites... err what should I google for?
[20:08] <Bodsda> dougl: try pinging the domain name, then try pinging the sites IP, if the IP works but not the name, then its a DNS problem
[20:08] <okum> anybody here familiar with classic gnome in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:08] <Bodsda> okum: there might be, whats the problem?
[20:09] <xxl> heloo
[20:10] <escott> okum, it doesnt exist
[20:11] <Dr_willis> !classic
[20:11] <Dr_willis> night all.
[20:12] <trism> gnome 3 fallback is called Gnome Classic in the greeter
[20:12] <cactusbin> hello
[20:14] <rqde> Greetings folks. How hard would it be to create an ubuntubox with a costumized menu/ui (similar to that of the PSP) that could emulate consolegames and play music/video?  - and be controlled by eg an xbox controler
[20:14] <malkauns> anyone know how to get xdmx working in 11.10?  do i need to disable compiz/unity or something?
[20:16] <Companion> np: Steel Panther - Gold Digging Whore (On album Balls Out) [spotify:track:3sbK54RaiJ3n8uIIvCClYu]
[20:16] <Companion> whoops :s
[20:16] <Companion> mis typed should be in terminal -.-
[20:16] <rqde> Greetings folks. How hard would it be to create an ubuntubox with a costumized menu/ui (similar to that of the PSP) that could emulate consolegames and play music/video and be controlled by eg an xbox controller? - What would I have to look into?
[20:17] <Companion> rqde, www.gnome-look.org
[20:17] <Companion> !next
[20:17] <cool_beans> I want an easy-to-install minimal linux system that is secure. I don't want to have to struggle to find out why it can't play *.avi. Am I lazy?
[20:17] <bazhang> Companion, dont do that
[20:17] <Companion> bazhang, true that /np was a wrong coneole ;p
[20:18] <Bodsda> rqde: 'ish - hardest part will be the UI, as long as the emulator already exists
[20:18] <malkauns> cool_beans, yes
[20:18] <cesar0> cool_beans yep your lazy try lubuntu
[20:18] <ssta> cool_beans: they tend to be mutually exclusive things.  Minimal tends to imply less in the way of "easy"
[20:18] <pangolin> Companion: Don't do the !next thing. it is rude.
[20:18] <Companion> pangolin, habbit
[20:18] <pangolin> Companion: break it. :)
[20:18] <Companion> cool_beans, try mplayer
[20:18] <cool_beans> will do
[20:18] <bazhang> Companion, the advice was not useful. please be helpful if you wish to help
[20:19] <Companion> np: Linkin Park - Breaking The Habit (On album Meteora) [spotify:track:4HcDu9IGRCvSTJE4yW5Ugv]
[20:19] <Companion> broke it :)
[20:19] <cool_beans> Right now, I've given up and installing Ubuntu again (the standard version).
[20:19] <Companion> pangolin, thats rude too..
[20:19] <cool_beans> I'll just spend time uninstalling the apps I don't want.
[20:19] <bazhang> Companion, no now playing here
[20:19] <pangolin> that was the only warning you will be getting. Please read the guidelines
[20:19] <Companion> bazhang, alright
[20:19] <Bodsda> cool_beans: heh, you'll never get it minimal enough that way :)
[20:19] <lusers> cool_beans: You're doing it wrong if you have to uninstall stuffs.
[20:20] <cool_beans> nooo
[20:20] <okum> is there anyone here familiar with using gnome classic in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:20] <cool_beans> lusers, Bodsda: I really tried setting up a minimal system from the mini iso
[20:20] <theadmin> okum: You can't really do that. You can use the Fallback though
[20:21] <cool_beans> I got most of the things working pretty well, but it was a bit long
[20:21] <cool_beans> and then I got sick and tired of just spending time making things work
[20:21] <cool_beans> I like computers and all, but I only have one life :/
[20:21] <Companion> cool_beans, what your looking for exactly?
[20:22] <cool_beans> A pat on the back, I think.
[20:22] <Bodsda> cool_beans: try crunchbang linux
[20:22] <Bodsda> cool_beans: well done for trying
[20:22] <cool_beans> let me search that up
[20:22] <trism> okum: just ask your question
[20:22] <Companion> cool_beans, you're looking for a light weight linux distribution for movies and stuff?
[20:22] <induz> how can I connect/network my Ubuntu Machine with a Xp machine over the home network using a wireless router in a workgroup[no domain]
[20:22] <bazhang> Bodsda, lets keep to ubuntu supported derivatives please
[20:22] <oCean> cool_beans: #ubuntu-offtopic is for chat, this channel is for ubuntu support topics only
[20:22] <messn> join #mint
[20:23] <cool_beans> oCean: Sorry, I was getting ignored on there - but yeah, thanks guys :)
[20:23] <induz> I have samba installed on Ubuntu machine and Xp machine is in a named workgroup
[20:23] <Bodsda> bazhang: I was making a suggestion for a lightweight linux distro, which was in direct response to a question. Crunchbang is a derivitive, just not supported
[20:23] <jon23d> cyanogenmod
[20:23] <bazhang> Bodsda, lubuntu is supported
[20:23] <Bodsda> bazhang: only just :)
[20:23] <induz> how can i change workgroup name of my Ubuntu machine
[20:24] <induz> I want to acess ubuntu machine from Xp machine
[20:24] <induz> Xp PC is in a workgroup
[20:24] <llutz> induz: set "workgroup = foo" in your smb.conf
[20:24] <ssta> induz: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[20:25] <maujhsn> dr_willis
[20:25] <induz> how can i do thst thats the q
[20:25] <m0n0> hey
[20:25] <Ebron> I want to know what version of some software I get before I run "apt-get install whatever" - Is there an easy way to do that?
[20:25] <ssta> gksu gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[20:26] <induz> llutz, how
[20:26] <Bodsda> Ebron: try apt-cache show packagename
[20:26] <induz> ssta, how
[20:26] <ssta> induz: in a terminal
[20:26] <llutz> induz: ssta already told you
[20:27] <Ebron> Thank you Bodsda
[20:27] <Bodsda> your welcome
[20:27] <induz> llutz, how can I edit config file
[20:27] <llutz> induz: ssta already told you
[20:27] <ssta> induz: gksu gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[20:28] <Ebron> Bodsda: Hmm.. I get a ubuntu-specific version for the package, not the software itself?
[20:28] <ssta> (since I presume you want want to mess around with nano/vi/emacs...)
[20:28] <Bodsda> Ebron: what package are we talking about?
[20:28] <Ebron> Bodsda: wordpress
[20:28] <maujhsn> Does anybody know a fdisk command that will force a specified  mount point like /dev/sdx?
[20:29] <induz> ssta, that takes me to a text file
[20:29] <Ebron> Bodsda: Although I would like a permanent easy way to do this for upcoming software (This is not the first time the problem has presented itself)
[20:29] <llutz> maujhsn: your question makes no sense. /dev/xxx are device-files, fdisk a partitioning tool. so what do you want to know?
[20:29] <darrenlooby> Anyone any good with firewalls?
[20:29] <induz> ssta, llutz please be descriptive as i am still learning
[20:29] <ssta> induz: yes, config files are generally text files
[20:29] <Ebron> I don't like to have to google my eyes out every time I want to know what I get
[20:30] <Bodsda> Ebron: I'm confused, you will be getting the same thing as if you downloaded the source code from them directly and built it yourse;f
[20:30] <induz> ssta, its a sample file
[20:30] <ssta> induz: it has lots of commengts in it to tell you how it works.  It's the real live file though
[20:31] <john_doe_jr1> You u installed Google Chromium on Ubuntu where are the chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra or chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-nonfree files stored on your computer?
[20:31] <phpn00b> i love ubuntu but it is a bit unstab;e here on my laptop
[20:31] <maujhsn> llutz I have a usb drive that shows a mount point at /cdrom when I i would like it to read /dev/sdb...follow me so far?
[20:31] <Bodsda> Ebron: if you search for the package through the software center, it will probably give you a more sensible description of the package
[20:31] <escott> maujhsn, device enumerate is controlled by the kernel, but even the kernel can't ensure it is consistent. use UUIDs
[20:31] <ssta> Ebron: current version of wordpress in 11.10 is: Version: 3.0.5+dfsg-1ubuntu1  (ignore everything except the 3.0.5, which is the version of WP it is)
[20:31] <zej9> is there anyone that can help me with a live boot?
[20:32] <Naka> Shit. Someone got my nick.
[20:32] <maujhsn> escott OK
[20:32] <Bodsda> Naka: watch your language please
[20:32] <Nakakumuro> Apologies.
[20:32] <induz> ssta, its not helpful
[20:33] <darrenlooby> I need some help with UFW - I want to limit access to my server to IPs beginning with 10.* - and a short list of IPs
[20:33] <induz> ssta, its informative but beyond my understanding
[20:33] <ssta> induz: umm, I don't know how I can help more.  What exactly don't you understand?
[20:33] <zej9> I'm having a big problem booting on my other computer with a live cd, can anyone help me out?
[20:33] <ssta> induz: look for the line that says: workgroup =
[20:33] <maujhsn> escott I have another question have you ever used ddrescue on a usb drive?
[20:33] <induz> ssta, i have installed samba on my Ubuntu...I want to access my Buntu PC from a XP PC
[20:33] <ssta> change that it says to be the workgroup you want to be in
[20:34] <aguitel> zej9, what big
[20:34] <escott> maujhsn, no
[20:34] <maujhsn> Does anybody have experience using ddrescue?
[20:34] <ssta> induz: eg: workgroup = WORKGROUP
[20:34] <maujhsn> escott OK
[20:35] <ssta> (can anyone else find a different way to explain it that he might be more able to understand?)
[20:35] <zej9> I boot up my computer, the mbr has been screwed up by windows so I am trying to fix it with a linux install. The disk begins to boot gets to the screen where it has the keyboard logo at the bottom of the screen, then it goes black and a ton of code streams down the screen then it just stops
[20:36] <induz> ssta, ok i changed Workgroup= myWorkgroup..now what should i do??
[20:36] <ssta> induz: restart samba
[20:36] <nRy> anybody know where it might be possible to download a beta version of "Ubuntu for Android?"
[20:37] <okum> trism: looking for a black font clock instead of white font and i don't know how to enable compizconfig features.
[20:37] <escott> zej9, so thats a kernel panic. can you identify the cause of the panic. any distinctive words in the panice messages?
[20:37] <induz> ssta, ok restarting samba
[20:37] <okum> trism: (clock in the panel)
[20:37] <Oer> nRy maybe in #Ubuntu-phone ?
[20:37] <hex20dec> Hi everyone, I'm having a problem with my mail, when I send messages, the return-path header is set to "Return-Path: <www-data@example.com>". How do I change the 'www-data' to 'admin'?  I even added the return-path header to my php script but seems it isn't the problem. Anyone know what the problem is?
[20:37] <ssta> induz: because of the way smb/cifs resolution works, you may need to wait a couple of minutes for it to show up on windows...
[20:37] <zej9> x86_64_start_kernel +0xcd/0xdc is the last line
[20:38] <escott> zej9, the last 40-50 lines are all stack trace and arent helpful. we need what is above that
[20:38] <induz> ssta, now i see on my Xp PC
[20:38] <zej9> ok how do I scroll up then
[20:38] <ssta> induz: awesome
[20:39] <induz> ssta, thanks
[20:39] <ssta> induz: you're welcome
[20:39] <induz> ssta, can I remote desktop connect to my Ubuntu since they r in a network/workgroup
[20:39] <induz> ssta, how Can i do that
[20:39] <popey> nRy: its not available yet
[20:40] <ssta> induz: not really.  You can VNC though (which is basically the same thing)
[20:40] <ssta> does ubottu have a factoid for vnc?
[20:40] <ssta> !vnc
[20:41] <Ady> know how to open port command?
[20:41] <ssta> there you go induz
[20:41] <om26er_> popey, will it be available to download in some form?
[20:41] <popey> om26er_: I expect so, at some point
[20:42] <om26er_> okay ;)
[20:43] <zej9> escott how do I find the top line?
[20:44] <escott> zej9, scrolllock is supposed to be able to slow the output. and you could see if ctrl-alt-f1 will get you to a login. it probably wont following a panic. but mostly its just watching
[20:45] <ichbinder> the lagging errors are back again... :( (salmiak)
[20:45] <Ady> i am behaind firewall , how can i open port?
[20:47] <zej9> Ok I managed to get to the advance install options before it could move forward by hitting space as soon as it started to load the disk
[20:47] <induz> how can I share a folder on Ubuntu PC to a XP PC via samba
[20:47] <pehden> .
[20:47] <pehden> ping
[20:47] <induz> How Can i make a folder to share
[20:47] <iceroot> !samba | induz
[20:47] <Jordan_U> Ady: http://portforward.com/
[20:48] <LordDeath> lol http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1330270703160.jpg
[20:49] <zej9> ok escott it said something about bad page
[20:49] <escott> zej9, then run the memory tester which is on the cd
[20:50] <Jordan_U> !ot | LordDeath
[20:50] <zej9> I have not seen that much red in a long time
[20:51] <zej9> ok escott I have some bad ram, I am going to try and take 1 stick out at a time to figure out which one is bad
[20:52] <Effigy> Has anyone gotten conky working on ubuntu 11.10 with gnome 3.2.1?
[20:53] <Effigy> I'm getting this msg when running conky
[20:53] <Effigy> ***** Imlib2 Developer Warning ***** :
[20:53] <Effigy> 	This program is calling the Imlib call:
[20:53] <Effigy> 	imlib_context_free();
[20:53] <Effigy> 	With the parameter:
[20:53] <Effigy> 	context
[20:53] <FloodBot1> Effigy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:55] <Effigy> can anyone help with this msg?
[20:55] <Effigy> ***** Imlib2 Developer Warning ***** :
[20:55] <Effigy> 	This program is calling the Imlib call:
[20:55] <Effigy> 	imlib_context_free();
[20:55] <Effigy> 	With the parameter:
[20:55] <Effigy> 	context
[20:55] <FloodBot1> Effigy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:56] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Effigy
[20:56] <aeon-ltd> Effigy: use paste.ubuntu.com then the channel might be able  to see the rest of it
[20:56] <aguitel> !google-earth
[20:56] <aguitel> !googleearth
[20:57] <Effigy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/858362/
[20:59] <aiphee> !googleearth
[21:00] <aiphee> !help
[21:01] <bazhang> aiphee, with what
[21:01] <darrenlooby> Anyone good with UFW?
[21:01] <aiphee> im new with irc, i wanted to see commands
[21:01] <bazhang> aiphee, /msg ubottu factoids
[21:02] <aiphee> ty
[21:03] <Effigy> Okay, I'll try again. can anyone help with this. -->http://paste.ubuntu.com/858377/
, can u past ur conkyrc?
[21:04] <Effigy> sure, give me a sec.
[21:06] <bobbyrward> Can anyone point me to some info on requesting a backport?  Specifically to get a bug fix in oneiric
[21:06] <Effigy> hum... in /usr/bin I only have conky. not conkyrc
[21:06] <urfr332gO> Effigy, if you have conky the conkyrc is in home
[21:07] <Effigy> well. yeah it's ther. but it's blank....
[21:07] <Effigy> what now? spt-get purge conky?
[21:08] <ribhoo> try to get any conky conf file and run conky again
[21:08] <tbrown2012> I was wondering if there was a way that I can use ubuntu on my virtual machine if I could play War of world craft on it if so How can I do it and if so how the performace going to be good or bad
[21:09] <bobbyrward> tbrown2012:  It runs well through wine I believe
[21:09] <tbrown2012> I know how to load Ubuntu on the virutal machine but I just wanted to know if there was a way that I can run world of warcraft on it and if so how it would be and the perfomrace would be on it
[21:09] <Effigy> alright. I'll try
[21:09] <tbrown2012> I hope so
[21:10] <xangua> !appdb | tbrown2012
[21:11] <urfr332gO> !pm | Effigy
[21:12] <Aster> Hi, how do I rename a file in terminal?
[21:13] <theadmin> Aster: mv source dest
[21:13] <bobbyrward> Can anyone tell me how to go about requesting a backport?  I can't find `requestbackport` even using dpkg -S
[21:13] <Aster> theadmin isn't that move?
[21:13] <theadmin> Aster: Rename, move, same thing ;)
[21:13] <Aster> xD
[21:13] <Effigy> Thanks for the help. I'll play around with conky config and get back later. Again, Thanks.
[21:13] <Aster> Do I add file extensions to the destination?
[21:13] <theadmin> Aster: Yeah
[21:14] <Plish> leave
[21:14] <greenit> does any1 know a good slideshow-creation-software for ubuntu? i tried openshot, but i want that everything works fine, like with the windows moviemaker...
[21:14] <Aster> Okay, thanks, theadmin.
[21:17] <birdman007> does anybody know when the ati drivers will work on ubuntu since they are all messed up on 11.10
[21:17] <Jordan_U> greenit: Have you tried PiTiVi?
[21:18] <greenit> Jordan_U, nope.... thx for the tip ;)
[21:19] <Jordan_U> greenit: You're welcome :)
[21:20] <bigmahatma> hello. can anyone read me?
[21:21] <konam> hi guys
[21:21] <konam> could somebody tell me of a good back up utility that lets you do incremental backups?
[21:21] <bigmahatma> konam: hi
[21:22] <bigmahatma> svn + cron?
[21:22] <bazhang> konam, rsync ?
[21:22] <konam> i tried 'back in time' but it just makes full snapshots
[21:22] <klmmlk> bon, aller, dodo.
[21:24] <TUX11> how do i enable 3d acceleration in ubuntu 10.4
[21:28] <darrenlooby> How do I use UFW to block all put IPs starting with 10.*
[21:28] <darrenlooby> Is it possible?
[21:28] <Vampire1408> do it as you said? IP field: 10.* ?
[21:29] <TomV-415> I've been working all morning trying to figure out why my unbuntu 11.10 install is failing.. When I boot, I get "error:out of disk" and grub rescue prompt.  Disk as 320gb free..
[21:29] <Somelauw> Believe it or not, but I managed to actually upgrade.
[21:29] <TomV-415> I have run boot-repair, but did not resolve it.
[21:29] <Somelauw> And now I see unity for the first time.
[21:29] <TUX11> how do i enable 3d acceleration in ubuntu 10.4
[21:29] <darrenlooby> Vampire1408, I'm wanting confirmation that that is the correct way of doing it, so I don't break it
[21:29] <pentel> hello ! Has anybody useing Jsymphonic ?
[21:29] <TomV-415> Here's the info from boot-repair.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/858407/
[21:30] <pentel> i've got problem with the program
[21:30] <|bird|> Hi peoples. What's the command to show what kernel version I'm using?
[21:30] <Vampire1408> my install ran fine, just format HDD with gparted to make it empty
[21:30] <trism> bobbyrward: doesn't look like requestbackport was added until the precise version of ubuntu-dev-tools, you may be able to just using the version from bzr: bzr branch lp:ubuntu-dev-tools;
[21:30] <jiohdi> deja-dup is open, first time backup... back up now is grayed out... what is the problem?
[21:30] <guntbert> |bird|: uname -r
[21:30] <TomV-415> |bird|: uname -r
[21:30] <Vampire1408> bird go to system settings at top right
[21:30] <pentel> exit
[21:30] <|bird|> guntbert: thanks
[21:30] <Vampire1408> and ... or do that
[21:31] <Vampire1408> just lag jiohdi
[21:31] <jiohdi> Vampire1408, lag of what?
[21:31] <TUX11> server lag
[21:31] <TomV-415> |bird|: you can also do uname -a for the full deal.
[21:31] <jiohdi> TUX11, I am trying to do a local back up to a different partition
[21:32] <|bird|> TomV-415: Cool, thanks
[21:32] <TUX11> urrg i cant play any games without 3d acceleration :(
[21:33] <zykotick9> TUX11: what graphics card?  "lspci | grep -i vga" from terminal if you aren't sure.
[21:33] <rcmaehl> I have a stuck pixel on a tv. What packages do I need to fix that pixel?
[21:33] <TUX11> came back as VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT200 [GeForce GTX 260]
[21:34] <TomV-415> I'm at the grub rescue> prompt, but can't get past that.
[21:35] <TUX11> now ive installed nvidia drivers but i still get the error "No 3d acceleration detected"
[21:35] <TomV-415> Seems like it may be an fstab thing..
[21:35] <rcmaehl> TomV-415: nope it's a grub thing
[21:36] <TomV-415> Long time ago on this same box, similar problem was resolved by editing the fstab file, I think.. using IDs or something.
[21:36] <Busigast> Hello everyone :D can someone hlp me with some empathy stuff ?
[21:36] <sm_> is anyone aware of how to make sure networking comes up on boot with 11.04
[21:36] <TomV-415> rcmaehl: out-of-disk.  is a grub thing?  Hm.. next steps?
[21:37] <sm_> my settings all appear to be correct but network must be manually brought up on boot
[21:37] <rcmaehl> sm_: define manually
[21:37] <rcmaehl> and TomV-415 hold on
[21:37] <urfr332gO> TomV-415, what OS's do you have?
[21:37] <TomV-415> rcmaehl: this is a box I'm happy to rebuild, not trying to preserve anything.
[21:37] <sm_> rcmaehl: ifconfig
[21:37] <TomV-415> urfr332gO: Nothing but ubuntu now, was a dual boot box previously.
[21:37] <|bird|> is there a gui to build a kernel?
[21:38] <vickey_fff> http://housewifexxx.tumblr.com/
[21:38] <urfr332gO> TomV-415, you can chroot in and reload grub to the mbr. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[21:38] <|bird|> *custom kernel
[21:38] <guntbert> vickey_fff: don't paste random links here
[21:38] <TomV-415> urfr332gO: sounds like a good place to start. thanks!
[21:38] <sm_> rcmaehl: i was looking to find if rc scripts are enabled disabled but haven't seen it yet in docs
[21:39] <xangua> !kernel | |bird|
[21:39] <urfr332gO> TomV-415, no problem right above it is a srtaight reload with a cd equal to the install that works quite well without the chroot.
[21:40] <rcmaehl> sm_: try 'sudo apt-get install bum' and then launching bum as it easily allows you to see what rc scripts are enabled/disabled
[21:40] <|bird|> xangua: kk thanks
[21:41] <sm_> rcmaehl: thanks, i'm kind of suprised there isn't something like this by default
[21:41] <rcmaehl> sm_: *shrugs* it's useful but if you screw around with it too much you can screw up your pc very badly. Might be why it's not with ubuntu by default
[21:41] <TomV-415> urfr332gO: Yeah, looks like a good path.  I'm loading liveCD now..  (Unfortunately LiveCD sucks a bit cause it does not load the Nvida driver..weird screen rendering., but it works)
[21:42] <urfr332gO> TomV-415, you can use nomodeset from the f6 menu.
[21:42] <sm_> rcmaehl: do you know of anything similar to bum for command line, this is a server, no gui
[21:42] <urfr332gO> !nomodeset | TomV-415
[21:42] <rcmaehl> sm_: hold on a second
[21:43] <bobbyrward> Can anyone tell me how to go about requesting a backport?  I can't find `requestbackport` even using dpkg -S
[21:43] <velko> sm_, the ethernet cards specified in /etc/network/interfaces are automatically brought up on system start. is your card listed there? btw if you use network-manager the interface shall not be in the file. because nm will skip all cards specified there
[21:44] <urfr332gO> TomV-415, make the resolution default big though, no gallses needed. lol
[21:44] <urfr332gO> glasses*
[21:44] <sm_> velko: my cards are listed in /etc/network/intefaces ( both ) neither comes up. There is no nm on this machine, it runs server
[21:44] <rcmaehl> sm_: this may help http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html also I'll be back in a bit
[21:44] <sm_> rcmaehl: thaks
[21:44] <sm_> thanks*
[21:45] <Starcalc> After doing the last "do-release-upgrade" to the current version, my backuppc-Webinterface errors to "Error: Wrong user: my userid is 33, instead of 112(backuppc)". I did not have this error before the upgrade. Did the apache2.conf change? Or is there another idea? I don't want to run the whole apache2 on the requested user "backuppc", as www-data is great and used for different directories.#
[21:46] <Starcalc> After doing the last "do-release-upgrade" to the current version (oneiric/11.10), my backuppc-Webinterface errors to "Error: Wrong user: my userid is 33, instead of 112(backuppc)". I did not have this error before the upgrade. Did the apache2.conf change? Or is there another idea? I don't want to run the whole apache2 on the requested user "backuppc", as www-data is great and used for different directories.#
[21:47] <TomV-415> urfr332gO: Thanks that nomodeset was a big help!  Much better than default.
[21:47] <velko> sm_, the script /etc/init.d/networking is responsible for bringing them up. a symbolic link to this file shall exist in /etc/rc2.d/ (if you boot in init level 2). is it there?
[21:47] <urfr332gO> TomV-415, it is a cool trick. :)
[21:48] <urfr332gO> bobbyrward, you would untick backports in the softwrae sources.list or tick it on in softwrae sources.
[21:49] <Starcalc> After doing the last "do-release-upgrade" to the current version (oneiric/11.10), my backuppc-Webinterface errors to "Error: Wrong user: my userid is 33, instead of 112(backuppc)". I did not have this error before the upgrade. Did the apache2.conf change? Or is there another idea? I don't want to run the whole apache2 on the requested user "backuppc", as www-data is great and used for different directories.#
[21:49] <sm_> velko: no, not there, what is the full name of the symlink ?
[21:49] <bobbyrward> urfr332gO: to _request_ a backport?
[21:50] <jiohdi> is there a verision of remastersys for oneric?
[21:50] <urfr332gO> bobbyrward, I don't know the definition of request one there are already access to backports in the list mentioned.
[21:51] <bobbyrward> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports#Requesting_a_Backport
[21:51] <bazhang> jiohdi, not to my knowledge
[21:51] <velko> sm_, the file name shall start with "S" (for start), a number (for the start sequence of scripts) and the name. only the S is mandatory. the other stuff you can choose freely. just for a test do: /etc/init.d/networking restart (and see if both interfaces are brought up)
[21:51] <trism> bobbyrward: doesn't look like requestbackport was added until the precise version of ubuntu-dev-tools, you may be able to just using the version from bzr: bzr branch lp:ubuntu-dev-tools; *repost*
[21:51] <Tunix2> I just did an "sudo apt-get upgrade" and now when I click on icons like my terminal emulator I get this: http://i.imgur.com/TBgZc.png what happened and how can I correct this?
[21:51] <trism> bobbyrward: *probably should have fixed the typo from last time*
[21:51] <bobbyrward> trism: thanks
[21:52] <velko> sm_, basically you have to choose the number so that the networking is up and running before any service that may need it. for example if ssh is started with number 04 you have to start the networking with 03 or lower
[21:53] <sm_> velko: restarting works via init.d, will create a symlink, thanks for your help :)
[21:54] <Tunix2> Anyone get this issue after upgrading??
[21:57] <bastidrazor> Tunix2: have you picked one?
[21:57] <Starcalc> After doing the last "do-release-upgrade" to the current version (oneiric/11.10), my backuppc-Webinterface errors to "Error: Wrong user: my userid is 33, instead of 112(backuppc)". I did not have this error before the upgrade. Did the apache2.conf change? Or is there another idea? I don't want to run the whole apache2 on the requested user "backuppc", as www-data is great and used for different directories.
[21:57] <Tunix2> bastidrazor: Picked one what?
[21:58] <bastidrazor> Tunix2: what the screenshot you posted shows.
[21:59] <Tunix2> bastidrazor: if you click it then it only says "other" and if you click that then it opens up a file borwser window for you to go hunt down the application I assume
[22:04] <Iulia> .
[22:04] <Iulia> Hello
[22:04] <Somelauw> If I install ubuntu10.11, will I still be able to use the classical gnome interface?
[22:05] <urfr332gO> Somelauw, do you mean 10.10?
[22:05] <Somelauw> No, 11.10
[22:05] <Iulia> One question please...Is anyone having problems with videos in 11.10 ? I am unable to view any videos, in mozilla or chrome or from a folder , in any video player. It happens just after an upgrade
[22:05] <bazhang> !notunity | Somelauw
[22:05] <Iulia> I have 11.10  64 bits version
[22:05] <Somelauw> okay, thanks
[22:06] <urfr332gO> Somelauw, you can use the fallback somewhat similiar to gnom2 but not the same by installing the gnome-shell which adds gnome 3
[22:06] <bazhang> Iulia, flash videos or what
[22:06] <Somelauw> gnome3 is fine, I think.
[22:07] <blud> when I turn on my computer it just says "Checking for unattended updates" (or upgrades, I forget) and then is stuck on that forever
[22:07] <urfr332gO> Somelauw, I have switched to it lately myself
[22:07] <Ademan> is there a way on 10.04 to see which processes are draining my laptop battery the most?
[22:08] <Iulia> I thing so, I removed and re-installed flash plugin, gstreamer, restricted extras....but still nothing
[22:08] <acidrain> Ademan: which ever process uses most resources uses most battery
[22:08] <bazhang> Iulia, what video? flash?
[22:08] <urfr332gO> Iulia, the restricted extras covers the other two mentioned.
[22:08] <Somelauw> Ademan: I think if they use more cpu to use more battery power. So any task manager.
[22:09] <Iulia> flash
[22:09] <Iulia> for example youtube is all dead
[22:09] <rooty> hi roomies
[22:09] <Iulia> and tried to play an avi from the pc and nothing
[22:10] <acidrain> Iulia: what is happening exactlly? no videos will play at all?
[22:10] <Iulia> no, no video
[22:10] <Iulia> and the thing is that happened just after an upgrade
[22:10] <acidrain> hmmm
[22:10] <acidrain> will music play?
[22:10] <rooty> Iulia - try vlc media player. ?
[22:10] <Iulia> not even video : like an avi on VLC or totem
[22:11] <acidrain> Iulia: will music play?
[22:11] <Iulia> no
[22:12] <AcidRain> Iulia: do you get any type of error at all?
[22:12] <Iulia> music the only one wich opens is mp3
[22:12] <Iulia> no, no error at all
[22:13] <AcidRain> Iulia: did you do a distro upgrade? or just packages?
[22:13] <blud> when i turn on my computer, i can't even get into the desktop, it just has a black screen and says "checking for unattended updates"... it's screwed...  what do I do?
[22:13] <Iulia> just packages
[22:13] <urfr332gO> Ademan, opensource also does not get the code from battery manufactures so it is hit and miss in this area in general.
[22:14] <AcidRain> Iulia: and how long ago did you do this upgradE?
[22:14] <urfr332gO> Ademan, it will be a while before we get the same usage times as the major providers like apple or ms.
[22:15] <Iulia> it was this afternoon
[22:15]  * P1rate says hi
[22:15] <urfr332gO> blud, can you try try the recovery kernel?
[22:15] <Iulia> and when I turned on the pc now I realized videos are not working
[22:15] <Iulia> hello Pirate
[22:15] <blud> urfr332gO: maybe, how do i do that?
[22:16] <urfr332gO> blud, in the grub menu which you may need to get to with holding down the shift at powering on are kernel sets the second one of each is the recovery.
[22:16] <P1rate> chipotle: harvard xm looks good
[22:17] <chipotle> P1rate: ?
[22:17] <bastidrazor> urfr332gO: its left control, shift is grub. grub2 is ctrl
[22:17] <urfr332gO> !recovery
[22:17] <AcidRain> Iulia: im not sure, but i think there is a way for ubuntu to remove the previously installed packages and revert back to the ones you had before
[22:17] <Ademan> urfr332gO: well it's already supported in android so I assumed the stats are there in the kernel, unless that's one of the places where android's kernel diverges from mainline
[22:18] <Iulia> yes, that is what I would like and have to do to fix this
[22:18] <urfr332gO> bastidrazor, depends on the release I believe, which we don't know here.
[22:18] <Iulia> the issue is I don't know how either
[22:18] <urfr332gO> Ademan, android is not ubuntu
[22:18] <bobbyrward> trism: The requestbackport in launchpad gives a 400 bad request error when you use it so again I have no idea how to request a backport
, what version did u have and what version do u have now?
[22:19] <Iulia> I had and have Ubuntu 11.10 64 bits
[22:19] <Ademan> urfr332gO: android shares the VAST majority of its kernel with ubuntu, support for this would be in the kernel
[22:19] <blud> urfr332gO: can i do that "Rescue a broken system" with Lubuntu 11.10 too? Cuz I'm using ubuntu not lubuntu (but i would be on here for many hours before getting any help on the lubuntu channel)
[22:19] <urfr332gO> Ademan, cool since you know so much why are you asking. :)
[22:19] <blud> urfr332gO: er, typo, Im using Lubuntu, not ubuntu
[22:20] <P1rate> lubuntu probably wont be a problem since they will probably be similar
[22:20] <zykotick9> Ademan: android's kernel is separate from main linux kernel (android's changes aren't generally accepted into mainline kernel) - thus they aren't really shared...
[22:20] <urfr332gO> blud, lubuntu and ubuntu are only differnt by the desktop, using the recovery to get in is the same.
[22:20] <blud> urfr332gO: oh so when I do "rescue a broken system" that isn't going to fix anything, it will jsut get me into a command prompt or something so that I can fix things right?
[22:21] <Ademan> zykotick9: I guess shared was the wrong term, but my intention was to illustrate that the code bases of the kernels are vastly similar
[22:21] <urfr332gO> blud, several option even getting to logged in to fix it from the desktop.
[22:21] <zykotick9> Ademan: gnu/linux and android/linux are miles apart (yes, the "kernel" is similar, but that's kinda a small piece in some ways)
[22:22] <AcidRain> Iulia: does your comp act like its trying to play it? is it a solid black screen where the video is?
[22:22] <blud> urfr332gO: the only thing is, i have no idea whats wrong with it, so once i get in, i dont know what to do? Any tips on that?
[22:22] <Ademan> zykotick9: but I was specifically referring to the kernel
[22:22] <AcidRain> Iulia: give me deep details on what is happening
[22:22] <Iulia> yes...and one one of those small icons with the error , like for example when you create a shortcut on the desktop with no pic
[22:22] <urfr332gO> blud, I have only used recovery sparsely, it is abit different depending on the release you running but all get you to a desktop if you can get there.
[22:22] <P1rate> zykotick9: i got your point but you dont call kernel a "small" piece
[22:23] <Iulia> also, gets blocked some moments and you can only move mouse and you have to restart
[22:23] <Iulia> also happens since the upgrade
[22:23] <P1rate> true
[22:23] <P1rate> some updates messed up mouses
[22:23] <P1rate> and touchpads
[22:23] <blud> urfr332gO: yeah but I mean, once i get there, what am i supposed to do to fix my problem?
[22:23] <kieppie1> ok - I'm sure this channel's been flooded with this request, but where can I download Ubuntu-for-Android so that I can run it on my Nexus Prime?
[22:23] <P1rate> my touchpad got messed up
[22:24] <CFHowlett> kieppie1   @ubuntu-phone
[22:24] <urfr332gO> blud, sounds like I'm guessing here a interrupted update, get to the desktop if you can so you have a terminal then check with the channel really.
[22:24] <[deXter]> kieppie1, You can't download the official version yet. But there are other implementations you may be interested in.
[22:24] <kieppie1> ok? what? where?
[22:24] <blud> urfr332gO: ok cool
[22:24] <[deXter]> kieppie1, Like this one: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zpwebsites.ubuntuinstall
[22:24] <P1rate> ubuntu repos are kinda lame
[22:25] <zykotick9> kieppie1: there is an #ubuntu-phone channel
[22:25] <P1rate> updates via UI messed up a lot of things
[22:25] <urfr332gO> blud, having cli access will help others help you really, the real geeks not a poser like me. :)
[22:25] <kieppie1> niiiice! thanks :)
[22:26] <brian1992> is there a way to get pemiant root acess on my user account?
[22:26] <foxxtrot> Your user account should be a sudoer, but it would be an awful idea to run as root all the time
[22:26] <AcidRain> Iulia: sorry, i cant help you. and i cant find anything on google for you. i would say its a gfx card problem. but... you said no sound as well. so that kinda rules that out. unless its both, yet mp3s will still play. must be a software issue.  the worse case senario is to backup all your important files and reformat
[22:27] <Iulia> Thanks acid, will give some tries before that
[22:27] <Iulia> thanks for the help and time ;)
[22:27] <AcidRain> no need to thank, didnt get you anywhere lol
[22:27] <crackerjackz> what command do i use to figure out what version of ubuntu is installed?
[22:28] <Iulia> hehe but you tried
[22:28] <meganerd> crackerjackz: cat /etc/issue
[22:28] <CFHowlett> crackerjackz   lsb_release -a
[22:28] <crackerjackz> i thought uname -a would tell but that only brings up kernel version
[22:28] <brian1992> well im an experianced user with many other operateing systems and i grow tired of loging out and back in to root to use the root FS
[22:28] <crackerjackz> meganerd, CFHowlett ty
[22:28] <TomV-415> urfr332gO: Just went through the steps you suggested (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot ) no luck.  also tried the one before it, and the one after it (purge and reinstall grub)  Still when I mount without liveCD, I get error: out of disk.
[22:29] <meganerd> brian1992: use sudo, there should never bee a need to log in as root
[22:29] <CFHowlett> brian1992   su rootuser, su again to "root", exit
[22:29] <P1rate_> brian1992: what other systems do you mean?
[22:29] <Iulia> this is how it looks when it failes opening video
[22:29] <Iulia> http://ubuntuone.com/4rh0LLKf4YIDRUZeSde9hE
[22:29] <meganerd> brian1992: this is a bad idea on any OS, not just linux
[22:30] <P1rate_> meganerd:whats bad being root all time?
[22:30] <brian1992> other linux, every versoin of windows, mack os, debian etc
[22:30] <bastidrazor> brian1992: sudo -i
[22:30] <gmachine_24> so has this turned into a chat room now?
[22:30] <blud2> urfr332gO: i'm not seeing a repair option when i boot to the Lubuntu cd. Am i just not seeing it or should i boot a Ubuntu cd instead?
[22:30] <urfr332gO> TomV-415, is the setup a ide, with a slave, rather then a sata, just guessing here.
[22:30] <P1rate_> brian1992: if you are an experienced debian user whats the problem with ubuntu?
[22:30] <meganerd> P1rate_: a better question would be whats good about it
[22:31] <Estragon> hi
[22:31] <Iulia> hello
[22:31] <tjl> sup
[22:31] <tjl> lololol
[22:31] <urfr332gO> blud2, there is no real repair per say, the recovery is in the regular grub menu, not the live cd
[22:32] <Estragon> any informations of a beta of ubuntu on android ?
[22:32] <TomV-415> urfr332gO: Not sure.  Here's a snapshot I took with boot-repair, BEFORE trying the above stuff.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/858407/
[22:32] <zykotick9> Estragon: try #ubuntu-phone
[22:32] <CFHowlett> Estragon   ask @ #ubuntu-phone
[22:32] <Estragon> oh
[22:32] <Estragon> thanks
[22:32] <brian1992> well i had the same problem with debian, its a pain to acess root file system
[22:32] <blud2> urfr332gO: oh i though you said boot to the cd? I'll try the ctrl/shift thing for grub
[22:32] <Estragon> I didnt know there was a channel for this, thanks
[22:33] <meganerd> brian1992: ???  You should not really need to access to root file system on a regular basis
[22:34] <brian1992> meganerd, isnt it nessisary to acess root to place the extracted .tar.gz
[22:35] <meganerd> brian1992: most software I install from the repos, the manual ones a sudo make install works just fine
[22:35] <urfr332gO> TomV-415, the correct files are in ubuntu and the fstab looks good, some are better at reading the bootscript though. I would post a thread on the Ubuntu Forums, that is where I learned all this several of the mods are experts in this area and are on daily
[22:35] <meganerd> brian1992: and sudoedit works when I want to make changes to config files.
[22:36] <P1rate_> brian1992: sudo tar doesnt work?
[22:36] <brian1992> well, as much as i love useing the terminal to install and extract files.....
[22:36] <crackerjackz> what permissions are 777 what would that do if i were to give something that permission?
[22:37] <LjL> ugh, you don't extract a .tar file directly to the root filesystem, brian1992 :(
[22:37] <Iulia> bye all , have a great week
[22:37] <urfr332gO> TomV-415, run the bootscript now don't mess with it ubuntu thats is and post it on the forums and wait fro help would be my advice, or at least if you mess with it run a new bootscript, and post it. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[22:37] <Iulia> thanks for reading
[22:37] <TomV-415> urfr332gO: Thanks for your help!
[22:37] <P1rate_> crackerjackz: 777 allows read ,write and execute by any group
[22:38] <crackerjackz> P1rate_, i dont like the sound of that.. how do i tell it not to do that
[22:38] <urfr332gO> TomV-415, no problem the mbr and bootstuff can be a pain in the booty. :)
[22:38] <TomV-415> urfr332gO: I'm starting to suspect something with the MBR is the problem..
[22:38] <brian1992> LjL, wether its extrated directaly or not, its annoying to have my home folder clutterd with extracted tar.gx folders
[22:38] <crackerjackz> P1rate_, i know to use chmod but what permissions should i give it for read access only?
[22:38] <urfr332gO> see you all time for coffee.
[22:38] <TomV-415> urfr332gO: Yes, pain in the boot-ty is right!  No boot joy.
[22:38] <blud2> urfr332gO: ok i hit shift to get the grub menu and picked recovery mode and picked shell prompt
[22:38] <zej9> I am trying to boot from live cd on my desktop since my MBR is toast, I have the disk in and it loads the first image with the keyboard at the bottom, but now its just a black screen with a blinking white thing in the upper left corner, any help?
[22:40] <brian1992> LjL, wether its extrated directaly or not, its annoying to have my home folder clutterd with extracted tar.gx folders
[22:40] <CFHowlett> zej9   this is an 11.10 cd?
[22:40] <zej9> yes
[22:40] <LjL> brian1992: well just delete the extracted files later, but extracting directly to root is just a recipe for disaster.
[22:41] <CFHowlett> zej9   did you perform md5sum to verify the iso intergrity?
[22:41] <CFHowlett> *integrity*
[22:41] <zej9> how do I do that
[22:41] <CFHowlett> !md5sum|zej9
[22:42] <CFHowlett> zej9   I'm asking because .iso can get scrambled easily.  They look OK but they scramble your *buntu - or don't boot at all...
[22:43] <zej9> Ok I am gonna run it real quick
[22:43] <brian1992> LjL, im talkin about the excutables themselfs, i want them farther back in the fils system
[22:43] <CFHowlett> zej9   also the default 11.10 installer relies on some specific video settings - which can cause problems.  The alternative installer isn't as pretty as it's text based, but it DOES work more often than not.
[22:43] <tbrown2012> Have anyone used the program Cheat Engine Before to make there network go faster or something Am download world of war craft and am having a speed of 5.5MB/s is that fast or can I go higher
[22:44] <brian1992> okay is there a way to make a program files folder in the root fs that i could have acess to?
[22:44] <Guest8994> can someone tell me if this command is correct
[22:44] <Guest8994> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[22:45] <escott> Guest8994, no use sudo service gdm stop
[22:45] <zykotick9> Guest8994: not really.  are you using 11.10?  cause it doesn't even use gdm
[22:45] <P1rate_> Guest8994: you want to stop a server?
[22:45] <zej9> check sum is the same
[22:45] <tbrown2012> Guest8994: Ya what escott said
[22:45] <tbrown2012> Have anyone used the program Cheat Engine Before to make there network go faster or something Am download world of war craft and am having a speed of 5.5MB/s is that fast or can I go higher
[22:45] <zykotick9> !repeat > tbrown2012
[22:45] <Guest8994> PLrate yes to install drivers
[22:45] <P1rate_> tbrown2012: cheat engine? :P
[22:46] <CFHowlett> zej9   good - which suggests a video setting issue.  Given that it's hanging  at boot, I'm going to suggest a PITA solution.  Get the alternative installer.
[22:46] <trism> bobbyrward: may be conflicting with the installed version, but I'm really not sure, maybe ask in #ubuntu-motu, somebody there probably knows
[22:46] <war10ck1> where can i download the vmware server for linux now?
[22:46] <P1rate_> Guest8994: try what escott said
[22:46] <CFHowlett> Guest8994   that's not in ANY of the repos and isn't supported here
[22:46] <tbrown2012> Pirate_: Thanks for the message but am find if I want to ask the Q: here I would be happy to ok.
[22:47] <CFHowlett> zej9   message received/understood???
[22:47] <TomV-415> urfr332gO: I'm wondering if I can just format the drive and do a install.. will that clear the problem I'm unable to resolve?
[22:47] <zej9> message recieved, going to burn the alt iso
[22:47] <blud2> my computer is stuck when i turn it on it says "|Checking for running unattended upgrades" and it stays like that forever. Now I am in recovery shell and what do i do to fix it?
[22:47] <CFHowlett> zej9   do the md5sum check again  :)
[22:48] <zej9> yes I did :)
[22:48] <war10ck1> blud2, fix-boot
[22:49] <escott> blud2, why did you end up in recovery shell? what happened when you tried to boot normally
[22:49] <escott> blud2, nevermind misread
[22:50] <blud2> war10ck1: it says fix-boot command not found
[22:50] <TomV-415> I'm been having trouble all day with a install of Ubuntu 11.10.. trying to install on an Dell Lattitude d800.  it has worked like a charm in the past.  I don't need to presere anything, but right now my install is failing with a "error: out of disk." message.  I've done a bunch of stuff purging and reinalling grub, running boot-repair, etc. , etc.  no luck.
[22:50] <brian1992> what comand makes a directory?
[22:50] <zykotick9> brian1992: "mkdir foo"
[22:50] <war10ck1> mkdir
[22:51] <TomV-415> So can I just format the drive to reinstall?  Or will I see the same problems?
[22:51] <Jordan_U> war10ck1: What did you mean by "fix-boot". That answer seems completely nonsensical to me.
[22:51] <brian1992> thanks
[22:51] <escott> blud2, you could try apt-get remove unattended-upgrade
[22:51] <escott> blud2, unattended-upgrades
[22:52] <TomV-415> (will that fix any MBR and grub issues that I just could not figure out?)
[22:53] <Jordan_U> TomV-415: An "out of disk" error from grub means that you have a buggy BIOS which can't handle large drives properly.
[22:53] <TomV-415> Jordan_U: ahh, that's a different direction for troubleshooting!  Seems like it worked fine before...
[22:54] <Jordan_U> TomV-415: Sometimes things will work fine for a while, because files tend to be written to the beginning of a partition, and thus the drive, at first. The moment something that needs to be read by the bootloader is past your BIOS's limit, you'll have problems.
[22:54] <TomV-415> Jordan_U: perhaps I can fix with smaller partions set up ?
[22:54] <TomV-415> Jordan_U: Sounds promising.
[22:54] <brian1992> okay, i need to have complete control over a root folder, whats the cmd to change the permissions
[22:55] <Jordan_U> TomV-415: Yes. Create a small /boot/ partition at the beginning of the drive. Any other partitions can be wherever you want as they don't need to be read through BIOS calls.
[22:55] <TomV-415> Jordan_U: that sounds like a good path!  How big is 'small'?
[22:55] <escott> !permissions | brian1992
[22:56] <zej9> Ok I have the Alternate install disk loaded on my computer
[22:56] <zej9> what should I do now
[22:56] <blud2> escott: it says W: not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock    E: unable to write to /var/cache/apt   E: the package lists or status file could not be parse or open
[22:56] <encrypt> Hi im upgrading to 12.04 and the indicator for the NetworkManager is gone from the panel. Any ideas on how to get it back?
[22:56] <blud2> escott: do i just do sudo first heh
[22:56] <CFHowlett> !precise|encrypt
[22:56] <Jordan_U> TomV-415: Anything below about 30 GiB will be within most BIOS limitations, and that's *MUCH* more than is needed for /boot/. An even 1 GiB is what I would recommend for /boot.
[22:57] <erpingham> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu 11.10, and when I log out of my main user account, it returns to the login manager, but when I log back in, the session hangs just after loading my desktop background but before loading unity
[22:58] <escott> blud2, if you are truly in a recovery console you shouldn't need to sudo, but if you aren't root you would need to sudo
[22:58] <TomV-415> Jordan_U: sounds good.. will configure it now.. 1.) boot partion (1gb), 2.) swap (how big?) 3.) rest of drive as '/' ??
[22:58] <Jordan_U> TomV-415: You can easily get away with less than 1 GiB for /boot/, but for most people 1 GiB is small enough that you won't miss it much and at the same time you won't have to worry much about it getting full.
[22:58] <brian1992> yeah... im just gona log in as root an use the gui
[22:58] <Jordan_U> TomV-415: As much swap as you have RAM is usually a good amount.
[22:59] <blud2> escott: i am truly in recovery mode, the prompt is root@computername   and i just did sudo it has no effect
[23:00] <escott> blud2, sounds like the lock file is bad. you can remove the lock file and try again
[23:01] <Jordan_U> !aptlock | blud2
[23:03] <encrypt> is there any other way to connect my wireless card appart from the indicator in the panel? Or at least check the networks available? NetworkManager is running but no indicator in the panel
[23:04] <CFHowlett> encrypt   12.04 is still in alpha / beta and not supported on this channel.  see #ubuntu+1
[23:05] <blud2> Jordan_U, escott  the first command didnt complain but the 2nd command said: errror: unable to access dpkg status area: read only file system
[23:05] <escott> blud2, sounds like you need to fsck /
[23:06] <LetterRip> hi all - am attempting to fix a failed 'google-desktop-linux' uninstall - when i google i get this thread mentioned as how to fix it, but can't actually load that thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-305472.html
[23:07] <blud2> escott do i just run the command fsck right now in the shell or is that something i have to reboot and pick or w/e
[23:07] <LetterRip> so can someone explain the fix please? here is the error http://pastebin.com/2ieCSAvy
[23:10] <gigs_> Yo, anyone know how I can manage to watch Netflix?
[23:11] <tbrown2012> gigs_: I dont think there is a way to run Netflix on Ubuntu I already tride it sucks
[23:12] <encrypt> CFhowlett, I know just wondering if someone had to deal  with a similar issue before
[23:12] <gigs_> there aren't any drivers or anything I can get to make it work'
[23:12] <Xeneth> Hello peeps.  This rooms alway's more lively then #cisco.  :)
[23:13] <escott> blud2, since your / is mounted ro you can safely fsck now
[23:14] <tbrown2012> gigs_: I don't know I think you need a sliverlight application to run it but I dont think there is one like it on ubuntu let me check and get back with you okay HOld on
[23:14] <Ashii> I want to know, if someone have working flash with their browser, where they can use copy_url_at_current_time at youtube (rightclick the flash), please post input :)
[23:14] <gigs_> great thanks
[23:15] <blud2> escott: i did fsck , it was instantly done and said clean or something. went back to try those other commands and everything still responds the same way ('read only file system')
[23:15] <tbrown2012> gigs_: Ya I look and there was a video on how to run netflix on ubuntu and he use virtual box running windows xp on it and playing the movies on there that might work but I dont think there is a applcation for that am sorry
[23:15] <escott> gigs_, tbrown2012 mono won't help as msft/nflx will not release the encryption keys. the routines are there, but the keys will never be released
[23:15] <escott> blud2, so now you can mount -o remount,rw /
[23:15] <Xeneth> blud2, What FS is on the disk?
[23:16] <tbrown2012> escott_: Why cant they code respond to one another that does not make sense.
[23:16] <Jordan_U> blud2: Wait.
[23:16] <blud2> ok
[23:16] <Jordan_U> blud2: What fsck command did you run exactly?
[23:16] <blud2> Jordan_U: fsck
[23:17] <blud2> Jordan_U: i beleive it did a file system check a few boots ago on its own
[23:17] <blud2> Jordan_U: so maybe its like already done from then or something
[23:18] <escott> blud2, when you have an unclean dismount (like a forced power off) then the fs may be dirty and unable to be mounted rw until after fsck is run
[23:18] <blud2> Xeneth: how can i determine that (although i think its just the default file system type, i didnt pick anything weird)
[23:18] <Jordan_U> blud2: What device is your root filesystem? (Something like /dev/sda5, you can check by running "mount" and looking at the device that goes with '/')
[23:19] <kingofswords> hi can any1 tell me how to update my graphics driver
[23:19] <Xeneth> blud2, if it's the default, then what I was thinking is not valid.  Likly ext4
[23:19] <kingofswords> my video has gone choppy
[23:19] <tbrown2012> I have a Q: if I have 7.3 GB to download and it taken like 5.7MB/s How long would it get done downloading
[23:20] <blud2> it is ext4
[23:20] <escott> tbrown2012, 1024*7.3/5.6
[23:20] <Multbrelch> tbrown2012, easy, no?
[23:20] <Multbrelch> escott, found a solution
[23:21] <tbrown2012> escott: Multbrelch: What do you guys mean?
[23:21] <mangdood> Hi, how can I get KDE to not have laggy animations?
[23:21] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, which graphic crad do u have?
[23:21] <kingofswords> ill look
[23:21] <blud2> btw, at the bottom of the mount output is a warning about how /etc/mtab is not writeable (if that matters)
[23:21] <kingofswords> nvidia
[23:22] <blud2> so should i just do mount -o remount, rw /
[23:22] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8400M GS]
[23:22] <escott> blud2, / is ro so nothing is currently writable
[23:22] <Jordan_U> blud2: It might. Try "cat /proc/mounts" instead. You'll also probably need to run "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/" to get the shorter device name.
[23:22] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, wot does this give?  lspci | grep nVidia
[23:22] <Xeneth> tbrown2012, They gave you the equation.  you can type it in a calculator to get the answer.
[23:23] <Multbrelch> k
[23:23] <Xeneth> tbrown2012, The answer will be in seconds, to just convert it
[23:23] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8400M GS] (rev a1)
[23:23] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, have u already chosen the newest driver that can be taken from 'Additional Drivers'?
[23:24] <Jordan_U> escott: mount by default reads and writes information to /etc/mtab. So while it would usually work fine to get information on mounted filesystems from /etc/mtab, at the moment it's best to look at /proc/mounts instead.
[23:24] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, do u have a DELL M1330 ?
[23:24] <kingofswords> yeh
[23:24] <kingofswords> how u know that?
[23:24] <Multbrelch> me too :-)
[23:24] <Multbrelch> Cause I have 2
[23:24] <blud2> Jordan_U: still, i didnt change my file system.. it's still ext4, proc mounts isnt going to tell us anything useful right?
[23:24] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, which ubuntu version do u have?
[23:25] <tbrown2012> Xeneth: If I got the Answer 1334.85714 how long is that
[23:25] <kingofswords> recently i my video started goin funny and system slow....thought was gpu dying but windoze is fine
[23:25] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, 10.04lts
[23:25] <Multbrelch> k
[23:25] <Jordan_U> blud2: It's one way to find the device name. Then we can run "fsck /dev/foo" since I'm not sure that fsck with no other options would have checked your root filesystem (it might have, and this might be a waste of time if it did, but at the moment I'd just like to confirm).
[23:25] <Multbrelch> may be u change soon to a newer one ... well, u know that u have a bad graphics card
[23:26] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, in windows partition video is fine
[23:26] <Multbrelch> see here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/204772-m1330-display-issue-vertical-lines-reboot-crash-vertical-lines.html
[23:26] <kingofswords> i prob change in update mgr
[23:26] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, okay
[23:27] <kingofswords> i also change in 'hardware drivers' but cant change back 2 recommended
[23:27] <Multbrelch> did you choose newest driver in: menu -> administration -> additional drivers?
[23:27] <blud2> Jordan_U: when i do fsck it says its doign /dev/sda1/ so, i'm satisfied that it worked
[23:27] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, ah okay
[23:27] <puff`> I left my laptop (thinkpad t520, ubuntu 11.10) running and when I got home, just now, I have 75-100 wireless authentication popups. I am slowly going through them and canceling.  a) is there a faster way to kill them all b) this is the second or third time this has happened, how do I keep it from happening again?
[23:27] <blud2> but now what do i do\
[23:27] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, but had problems b4 i changed
[23:28] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, okay. wot is not goining well? be more precise ...
[23:28] <Jordan_U> blud2: OK, then carry on.
[23:28] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, I KNOW
[23:28] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, divx flash is choppy and slow.....crashes browser
[23:28] <CFHowlett> puff`   turn off wifi autoconnect
[23:29] <kingofswords> general slowness of machine
[23:29] <Multbrelch> Open the NVidea properties window and choose highest clock speed <= this is wot I do always after boot
[23:29] <blud2> Jordan_U: i dont even know what to do next. Am i supposed to do mount -o remount, rw /    ?  (and is that one command or 3 or what heh)
[23:29] <puff`> CFHowlett: Where's that configured?
[23:29] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, you know bleachbit? i think it started then when i cleaned system
[23:29] <Multbrelch> bleachbit?
[23:30] <okum> possible to make your own background image for panel?
[23:30] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, it cleans cache and unwanted things
[23:30] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, i also have loads of options in boot menu/grub
[23:30] <Jordan_U> blud2: The one command is "mount -o remount,rw /" be careful where you put spaces. There is no space after or before the ','.
[23:31] <Xeneth> kingofswords, I tried bleachbit once.  It screwed up my system too.  NEVER AGAIN!!!
[23:31] <CFHowlett> puff`   I'm in 10.04 LTS - your setup is different.
[23:31] <Multbrelch>  aha, I dont know this ... - have u chosen highest clock speed in: menu -> administration -> nvidea x server settings?
[23:31] <kingofswords> Xeneth, damn..is there way to get it al back
[23:31] <CFHowlett> 11.10 --- how to disable automatic connections to wifi points?
[23:31] <abreham> anyone who installed strongswan?
[23:31] <mikodo> Never used the Alternate Ubuntu installer. How does it provide for partitoning of a hard drive, before installation, the way the user wants to set it up? Obviously not with a GUI apt like gparted, so how?
[23:32] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, I would test your computer with a new system on a separate hard disk <= best for knowing is all is alright
[23:32] <Xeneth> kingofswords, Not an expert in linux, so I had to reinstall.
[23:32] <CFHowlett> mikodo   text b ased interface.  Same questions, just no pretty pictures
[23:32] <mikodo> CFHowlett, Thanks
[23:32] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, i dont have option for clock speed
[23:32] <Multbrelch> ?
[23:32] <Multbrelch> u have
[23:33] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, i dont c it
[23:33] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, go to powermixer
[23:33] <Multbrelch> "prefer max performance"
[23:33] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, wheres powermixer?
[23:33] <Multbrelch> kingofswords,  menu -> administration -> nvidea x server settings
[23:34] <kingofswords> yeh im in that
[23:34] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, cant see clock speed thou
[23:34] <wingnut2626l> Whats a good version of ubuntu to install on a Mac Ibook G3 (128 mb ram, 500Mhz Power PC)?>
[23:34] <helpanoob> ok i was needing help useing the make command or is there a way to make a .tar.gz into a easy to install deb
[23:34] <czz> Hello, My Ubuntu 11.10 server doesn't have a /etc/resolv.conf file, what should i do?
[23:34] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, well its not called clock speed but rather 'performance'
[23:34] <mikodo> If one,, uses the Ubuntu Alternate install, can they choose to install which DE, or would one need to use the Alternate Install, specific to the DE one wants, say Xfce or Xubuntu?
[23:35] <itaylor57> helpanoob, what are you trying to build?
[23:35] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, sry im in powermixer but theres no option to set
[23:35] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, its already set to maximum perforance
[23:35] <helpanoob> imagination 3.0
[23:36] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, if u r in powermixer u should see  .... ah, okay
[23:36] <puff`> CFHowlett: Thanks.
[23:36] <Jordan_U> mikodo: If I remember correctly, if you look at the menus carefully you can install whatever set of packages you want. But an Ubuntu alternate CD will need to grab and XFCE packages from the internet.
[23:36] <CFHowlett> puff`   you fixed it/found it?
[23:36] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, btw i have 64bit...and flash is 64bit ver and had problem in past with thtis
[23:36] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, well then I would say: in order to be on the safe side, reinstall a system elsewhere and test your graphics card
[23:36] <mikodo> Jordan_U, Thanks
[23:37] <Jordan_U> mikodo: You're welcome.
[23:37] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, I also have 64Bit + Flash and all this <= no problems !!!!
[23:37] <itaylor57> !info imagination
[23:37] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, tested graphics in dual part in windows and its fine
[23:37] <CFHowlett> mikodo   whatever DE is default on your installation, you can add  a different one to select from post-installation
[23:37] <itaylor57> helpanoob, just install from the repos sudo apt-get install imagination
[23:38] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, can i not dl install driver from synaptic?
[23:38] <mikodo> CFHowlett, true, but I am trying for a more pristine install the next time around
[23:38] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, it seems that u somewhat played around with your system ...  and one college here said that bleachbit might have changed things
[23:39] <Multbrelch> Multbrelch, I would not do this
[23:39] <Guest1234> My Laptop is Dell 1537. Is there any way that I can use my microphone input jack as headphone output and how?
[23:39] <kingofswords> yeh
[23:39] <CFHowlett> mikodo   understood - assuming you're running the ubuntu-alternate installation, you'll be installing the unity DE...
[23:39] <helpanoob> itaylor57, ok but the latest ver in my synaptic is 2.1.1
[23:39] <foxxtrot> How bad is the 'did not catch or ignore signal 13' message from a CUPS filter process?
[23:39] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, do u have problems with ur dvdrw on m1330?
[23:39] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, wot u can do is also going to the nvidea homepage searching for the newest driver
[23:39] <helpanoob> itaylor57, ubuntu 10.10 here
[23:39] <itaylor57> helpanoob, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[23:40] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, never !
[23:40] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, do i have to delte old driver before installing new one?
[23:40] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, however i also don't use the dvd device so often
[23:40] <kingofswords> lol me neither
[23:40] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, no
[23:40] <Multbrelch> wait ...
[23:41] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, is it poss to upgrade the graphics card in m1330 or is it solderd on MB
[23:41] <jouni_> whois Multbrelch
[23:41] <Jordan_U> CFHowlett: mikodo: The alternate install CD defaults to installing exactly what the desktop install CD would. It's just that the Alternate install CD is a text based *installer*, and has more options if you don't want to go with the default.
[23:41] <itaylor57> helpanoob, why do you need version 3.0?
[23:42] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, the GPU is on-board, I'm sorry. :-)
[23:42] <mikodo> CFHowlett, I plan to install Xubuntu/Xfce next. So, before I go now to #Xubuntu, one more question here, if I may... Do each of the versions or variants of Ubuntu have Alternate installers of their own? Like Ubnutu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, lubuntu?
[23:42] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, this might be the newest driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-295.20-driver.html
[23:42] <haylo> is the "recovery Console" basically my shell? if i wanted to slim down 11.04 would it be ok to use that as a place to work from and maybe install openbox-seeion?
[23:42] <helpanoob> itaylor57, i was just asking no reason other then I would like to try it
[23:43] <CFHowlett> mikodo   the official distros have alternate installers
[23:43] <Guest1234> I heard that this is possible on Dell Studio 1537 with Windows 7 but is there any way I can do this with my Ubuntu 11.04?
[23:43] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, thx for trying to help...have gn....i changed to recommended driver so reboot perhaps will sort it
[23:43] <itaylor57> helpanoob, good luck I have no info on how to build it via make
[23:43] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, thx 4 link
[23:43] <blud2> ok guys i was able to remove that unattended upgrade with apt-get, so now what do i do, just reboot??
[23:43] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, plz verify again
[23:43] <mikodo> CFHowlett, Thank you an Jordan_U.... Bye now
[23:44] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, verify what?
[23:44] <Guest1234> I guess that nobody knows anything about this...
[23:44] <CFHowlett> mikodo   have fun/be safe
[23:44] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, the driver ... but I think it is the correct one. It's for 64 bit
[23:44] <blud2> escott: Jordan_U  do i just reboot now ?
[23:45] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, Version:
[23:45] <kingofswords> 295.20?
[23:45] <zeleftikam> anybody have experience with iptraf?
[23:45] <zeleftikam> i has confusion
[23:46] <kingofswords> gn ppl
[23:46] <Oer> Guest1234, " microphone input jack as headphone output and how? " and "heard" it is possible on windows 7 ? hard to believe you can switch input to output.
[23:46] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, this is the NEWEST driver! So, I have no idea wot the result will be. I have 260.19.06
[23:46] <starn> for some reason ubuntu/xubuntu will not mount primary "C" partition.. it's 500gb with vists 64bit
[23:46] <kingofswords> Multbrelch, thx...ill reboot and if same i will dl this driver then try...thx again
[23:46] <malkauns> how do u configure multihead displays in ubuntu (eg. 10+ screens) ?
[23:46] <Guest1234> Oer, believe me, it is possible.
[23:46] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, before u do anything: backup your stuff !!!!!
[23:47] <kingofswords> ok
[23:47] <Multbrelch> kingofswords, backup is a must
[23:47] <viKtor_> hi people, just one question, i can't decide between unity and kde so, for a really powered pc, which one could be better? i like both but both are lacking in something... just need to know! hehe
[23:47] <xangua> starn: by ubuntu/xubuntu you mean? xubuntu default install? already installed ntfs-3g?
[23:47] <humungulous> starn: mount <devspec> <mountpoint> -t ntfs
[23:47] <xangua> !Info ntfs-3g | starn
[23:47] <fALSO> Hi
[23:47] <starn> xangua: ubuntu default..  humungulous that's not working...
[23:48] <humungulous> starn: what do you get
[23:48] <xangua> !info ntfs-3g | starn
[23:48] <fALSO> can anyone point me to the correct way to remove a service from boot with upstart ?
[23:48] <fALSO> i cant seem to find out a "correct way" to do it
[23:48] <fALSO> just hacks
[23:48] <starn> i already have that installed... it mounts all other hard drives just fine.
[23:48] <zykotick9> fALSO: upstart doesn't have a "correct way", moving the file in /etc/init to foo.disabled should work
[23:49] <humungulous> starn: you get what on stderr
[23:49] <trism> fALSO: if you are on ubuntu natty+, echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/servicename.override; otherwise just comment out the start on lines
[23:49] <lincore> LEAVE
[23:49] <fALSO> see.. ? theres like 10 different ways
[23:49] <humungulous> lincore: /part
[23:49] <fALSO> which one is the recommended
[23:49] <starn> humungulous: i don't know?
[23:49] <humungulous> starn: well it must say something otherwise how do you know its failing
[23:50] <trism> fALSO: use the first one if your ubuntu version supports it, otherwise comment out the start on lines, you could rename the file if you wanted, but then you can't start it manually
[23:50] <starn> humungulous: says fuse: failed to access mountpoint.
[23:50] <blud2> when i turn on my computer it breifly shows the loading screen, but then it goes to a black screen that says "Could not write bytes: Broken Pipe"
[23:50] <humungulous> starn: are you issuing it through sudo
[23:51] <starn> humungulous: yes.
[23:51] <bjv> ack; enjoyable experience with freenode webchat. :\
[23:51] <humungulous> starn: you already tried a different mountpoint
[23:51] <starn> i did sudo fdisk -l first to see name and it says it's /dev/sda1.
[23:51] <escott> blud2, is that stopping the boot?
[23:51] <starn> humungulous: yes
[23:51] <humungulous> checking
[23:51] <blud2> escott: I guess so, its just sitting at that screen for a minute now
[23:52] <starn> humungulous: it mounts the second hard drive just fine.. and mounts the external drives just fine. using thos commands. but it appears to refuse to do so for the one with vista installed on.. and all my hard drives except the one ubuntu is installed on are ntfs.
[23:53] <bjv> trouble with hibernate' though. s2disk unable to stat suspend device.  i resumed from hibernate after plugging in an additional sata drive. on boot it could not find sda5 as it was now sdb5. after typing /dev/sdb5 it resumed. but now i am unable to suspend
[23:53] <humungulous> starn: syntax as i get it should be sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/wherever
[23:53] <daftykins> bjv: you should use UUIDs to mount instead
[23:54] <bjv> what is unusual though is no mention of device in suspend log, even with -v4
[23:54] <bjv> daftykins: initramfs resume file _does have uuid specified
[23:54] <daftykins> oic
[23:54] <daftykins> sorry
[23:55] <bjv> blkid confirms that uuid is in use, listed as "swap"
[23:55] <escott> blud2, does ctrl-alt-f1 take you to a login prompt
[23:55] <Satisfied> just installed ubuntu on a laptop and its my first time using wireless.... little nervous though.. is there a way to find out if the wireless is encrypted ?
[23:56] <blud2> escott: no, it does nothing
[23:56] <CFHowlett> Satisfied   by default it's not
[23:56] <chaospsychex> Satisfied: why are you nervous?
[23:56] <starn> humungulous: it just says "fuse:failed to access mountpoint /mnt/whatever no such file or directory i've tried /media/whatever  and i get that when i type sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/whatever or /media/whatever . normally use "windows" "vista" what ever i can think of. nothing seems to work.
[23:56] <bjv> is there a way to determine the suspend device of a running kernel?
[23:57] <humungulous> starn: you have to mkdir the mountpoint first
[23:57] <bjv> specifically, and change it.
[23:57] <Satisfied> well, if I'm logging into a website.. not liking the idea that my neighbors can read those passwords
[23:57] <starn> humungulous: i have tried that as well.
[23:57] <cool_beans> What's the app that detects hardware and recommends drivers for you?
[23:57] <humungulous> starn: what permissions on the mountpoint you mkdir'd
[23:58] <bjv> satisfied: if you did not key in a passphrase then your wireless network is not encryped
[23:58] <starn> seeing how i use sudo? i assume admin?
[23:58] <bjv> read the documentation for your network hardware
[23:58] <bjv> generally you point a web browser to the device.
[23:59] <starn> humungulous: plus considering the fact i'm trying to put it in /mnt/windows  or /media/windows  it's root folder...
[23:59] <Satisfied> but with the wireless particles flying all over the neighborhood, can't someone just pick that up and read all of it ?
[23:59] <humungulous> starn: whats output of ls -l <that dir you mkdird>
[23:59] <mikodo>  Jordan_U  One last question: Does your following statement mean that the Alternate installer CD, is a collection of base libs, or whatever, than one installs, then one can choose, the DE he wants with it? like Unity or Xubuntu or Xfce or Kubuntu ? "It's just that the Alternate install CD is a text based *installer*, and has more options if you don't want to go with the default."