[00:05] knome, you are welcome, our menu files are a bit of a mess... [00:06] :) [00:10] I think I will actually import the xubuntu file and edit/rename it. [00:11] Because our menu file has as much "funny" stuff as it does, I will probably comment it a bit more though. [00:11] It is handy having xubuntu on one drive and US12.04 on the other. [00:14] * knome is off for now [00:14] see you later :) [01:59] ScottL, the menu file belongs in ubuntustudio-default-settings. How do I set up a bzr branch... first and second how do I set up a package that will not interfere with the settings package? [02:01] I could take over the menus file.... but it might be nice to leave it around as backup. [02:03] Anyway, gone for a minute to reboot. I think I have the menu done. [02:09] ScottL, I have removed the start file for menus as well as renaming the merge file. [02:10] after rebooting we seem to be using the one file in /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/menus [03:06] Len-1204, we can put the menu files into whatever package we want, we have it currently in the ubuntustudio-menu package and xubuntu has it in xubuntu-default-settings [03:06] to streamline the process, i would suggest we just keep the menu in ubuntustudio-menu for now [03:07] we always have the revisions in launchpad if we need to revert to a previous version [03:08] ScottL, Ok, what do I need to do to have access? [03:09] I think I need to reboot to a permanent account so I can do an ssh key thing. [03:15] Time to reboot [03:20] len-nb, my suggestion would be to use bzr to pull the branch for ubuntustudio-menu [03:20] Pull? [03:21] ScottL, i thought I was putting stuff in it... [03:21] aye, you are going to push, but not before pulling [03:21] I have to get ssh stuff figured out first... [03:22] because this is a version control system you want to pull the bzr branch from the main trunk first [03:22] So they know I am who I am... whoever that is. [03:22] no problem, but i'll still type this because i will probably be away from irc for a bit with the family [03:22] https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio/ubuntustudio-menu says to [03:22] Get this branch: [03:22] bzr branch lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio/ubuntustudio-menu [03:23] Ok, [03:23] Does it end up on my system then? [03:23] yes [03:23] Or my own branch on theirs [03:23] ok [03:23] you will have a local copy of the code that you can change [03:24] then you will push it to your own branch under your launchpad id [03:24] ok [03:24] also, you will probably want to set 'bzr whoami' as well [03:24] ok [03:24] and also 'bzr launchpad-login' or similar [03:25] I have a login with them already [03:25] or is this different? [03:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaunchpadStepByStepInstructions is an okay tutorial [03:26] bzr whoami 'Your Name email@example.com' [03:27] I may have that already too. It spits that out when I login [03:27] http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/beta/en/tutorials/using_bazaar_with_launchpad.html#publishing-your-changes [03:27] this shows the launchpad login (which i think allows you to push to launchpad) [03:28] and right below that section is the pushing to your own branch as well [03:29] I could ask more questions, but it is prolly best if I work through the tut.. and stumble though [03:29] I think you have given me enough. [03:30] I'm going to try setting up the account and branch under my account first then pull and push. [03:35] Anyone... I got two different ways of making an ssh key thrown at me [03:36] when I try to make my own code branch it asks for rsa and the tutorial says dsa. [03:37] what is the difference? and dose it matter which kind I use? [03:37] s/dose/does [03:58] bzr pull seems to be telling me I have to have a user called ubuntustudio-dev [04:14] Ok, I used branch. I have a copy on my drive.... busy messing it up [04:15] Then I guess I put it in my own branch and tell you it is there. [04:35] * micahg waves to ScottL [07:47] ScottL: https://code.launchpad.net/~len-ovenwerks/+junk/ubuntustudio-menu [07:48] Off to bed [09:43] hehe [15:00] * ScottL waves back at micahg [15:00] micahg, i have the copyright file, but i have a concern [15:00] the original image (start-here.svg) was in the ubuntustudio-icon-theme package....checking on version [15:03] ubuntustudio-icon-theme version 58 in bzr [15:03] ScottL, good morning [15:03] there is a copyright file but i can't tell who should be attributed to the image [15:03] good morning len [15:04] I don't know if you saw things or not. I have only one question though. [15:04] does it matter who the owner on the files is? does it matter what group does it matter what permitions? [15:05] LP doesn't show any of that. [15:05] i have not had to worry about that, len, so i suspect it does not [15:05] as to why...i can't say thoughn [15:05] Makes sense as it is all copied by root. [15:06] Ok menus is done then. [15:06] ScottL, you will do the copy from where it is? [15:09] I don't know if it matters, but the copyright is set up to the person who first made the package... I don't know that there is anything in there that is original ;-) [15:10] Maybe a few *.directory files [15:13] Does the copy right have to be a person? If it could be the project that would mean less worries. [15:20] All, The Meetings page lists the "next" meeting as last week. Is there one this week and where? [15:21] Speaking of the Meeting web page... the top still says first sunday of the month which last week was not. Should the web page be changed? [16:24] len, i'm not up to date on how copyright files should be handled [16:24] len, re: meeting - nobody is keeping up with the meeting wiki page and we had decided to do every 2nd week for meeting but that has fallen through mostly so i don't know how the meeting announcement should go at this time [16:25] * ScottL is off to the store, this is my weekend that i'm taking care of a lot of yard work [17:31] OK, I off to do stuff too. [17:38] * astraljava notices our meetings aren't effectively no more. [18:58] meeting? what? where? [19:25] *sigh* bi-weekly formal, and alternating informal. But yeah, seems no one cares anymore. [19:26] I shouldn't complain, though. I'm going to drop my contribution significantly, anyway. [19:49] ScottL: yeah, I'm not sure either, that was part of my hesitation in uploading originally [21:00] micahg, there was a single copyright file with those images, i can make an authors file explaining that i created the images based on a previous image that is one of the other authors listed and even link to the original version of the code [21:00] micahg, shouldn't that take care of the copyright (and author) file(s)? [21:01] yes, as long as we know who created and owns the copyright and what license's they're usable unser [21:01] created is less important than owns the copyright [21:02] well, the original authors file listed a lot of authors but doesn't attribute to a particular image [21:02] however, the copyright appears to be the same for all of them [21:03] i'll be happy to license my work under the same (after i make sure it isn't something like MIT or other crazy one) to make it simple [21:03] micahg, with ^^^ allow us to move forward then? [21:04] I think so [21:05] okay, is there any reason that i can't update (or pull) the branch from bzr and add this? (i.e. did you have other changes) [21:05] I pushed everything up IIRC [21:06] okay, doing this now [21:08] I won't be able to upload for a few more hours, so no rush [21:14] ScottL, is the menu going to be included? or not yet? Maybe one thing at a time. [21:49] len, i would say let's keep the menu in the menu package [21:50] len, i would like to include it but i don't think we have time to get it by monday [21:50] micahg, i have pushed to default-settings to bzr [21:56] I have left in the same package ScottL I think we will all be happy to have something that has X again right now. [21:57] len, i don't think it's the menu package that is causing the loss of x, it was the lightdm configuration (which was in the -default-settings package) that was causing problem, i believe [21:58] len, i'm sorry, i completely misread your statement [21:58] disregard my previous statement [22:00] No prob. I'm going to finish what I have for panels. I want to have a clear drive for installs again this week. [22:01] I will do two sets. One with a second panel as on my web page and one without so it doesn't haunt us... [22:02] In both cases the clock will be replaced with orage. but look the same.... unless otherwise requested. [22:03] The main reason I wanted to be here for the meeting today was to see if there was a firm thought one way or the other about the second panel. [22:05] BTW I don't care if you use my panel setup (either one) I just spent some time on it and feel I shouldn't just toss it. [22:06] The panel stuff would be part of the settings package as it all ends up in /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/xfce (i think. [22:07] I can email the few files, or set up a branch in my login. Your choice... [23:07] ScottL, Just checking through things to see what I could pull to base panel settings on. [23:08] ScottL, found the settings package, but looking through things it looks like the menu files have already been merged into settings. [23:09] Warning, if you grab my branch for menus and install it beside the current settings I think things may end up broken again. [23:11] So it looks like ubuntustudio-settings and ubuntustudio-menus are no longer compatible.